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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to Quad City Forum, a weekly community service program
produced by iHeartMedia to look at the issues and opportunities
that exist in our community.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Now here's your hosts for a Quad City Forum, Hot
Luke and Danny Linnhowe.
Speaker 3 (00:19):
Steve Garrton Hub, director of Honor Flight of the Quad Cities,
talking to us today. And I'm surprised that he has
enough time to be able to do that because it's
going to be busy, busy, busy this year. More on
that in just a few minutes. But Stephen, if you
can just tell us a little bit about what the
Honor Flight is all about.
Speaker 4 (00:38):
Sure, Well, first of all, we're honoring our veteran We
are taking applications from veterans who serve before nineteen seventy five,
other ones as we go along. We're right now we're
trying to pick up everybody for that includes Vietnam and
Koe and World War Two and whatever was in between.
So we're trying to get all those veterans and we're
taking them to DC on a one day flight. Flight
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sixty two is coming up in May not in all
the eyes and for us and all the t's for
that one. So we're getting ready on our sixty second
flight to DC, and it should be fantastic. Those guys
will go there, they'll see the monuments, they'll see some
of the old equipment that they used to use at
the museum. They're just going to have a good and
we're going to feed them a lot.
Speaker 3 (01:23):
Well, with all that they've gone through, that's certainly deserving
of that. Now, when we talk about sixty two flights,
I would think everybody from before nineteen seventy five knew
about this and has already gone on. But you probably
still will run into this where a lot of veterans say, no, no, no,
I don't deserve that.
Speaker 4 (01:43):
Oh yeah, yeah, they're here. Oh well, some of it
was more important to me and they did that, and
I'm just not. Veterans are the most humble people actually
you'll meet. They're very humble about what they did. Guys
who have the silver Star the bronze start now, well,
I you know there was a mistake or something, or
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they're very humble. Except for me, of course, everybody else
is really humble.
Speaker 3 (02:11):
Well okay, so outside of it, and that we are
talking to the humble. Steve Garrington, hub director at the
Honor Flight of the Quad Cities. If people want to
find out more, website to do.
Speaker 4 (02:24):
Just that, Honor Flight qc Dot. You know, just just
google Honor Flight Quad Cities. You'll get to US.
Speaker 3 (02:31):
Okay, Honor Flight Quad Cities. Just do a Google search
in that and you're good.
Speaker 4 (02:35):
Yeah. And on that you will find applications for veterans
and applications for guardians, and we would like to have
a lot more guardians. The nice thing about a guardian
who doesn't know a veterans come in, he hasn't heard
the veterans story before. The veteran has already told that
their kids the story fifty seven times. They don't want
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to hear it again. Their new guardian coming in says, hey,
tell me all of us. They make such good new friends.
And when people get in my age, you got to
make new friends because some of them are going quick.
So you like making new friends and that's great. So
we need people to sign up to be guardians, and
that's on that same website Google on Or Flight Quad Cities.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
You're a veteran, but you were state side. This is
still a perfect opportunity to head to DC.
Speaker 4 (03:22):
Absolutely, that doesn't matter if if they oh, we're at
a desk in you know, Fort Benning, or if they
were over in Germany or in Korea. You know that's
they're still going to go with us. We're still just
just as long as they were a veteran before seventy five,
will will take them. There is one little problem though,
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the TSA, that's a Transportation Security Agency, not the Salvation Army.
The TSA requires the new real ID. We have a
star in the corner of your driver's license ID card.
So if you know a veteran, tell them go get
your real ID because you can't fly without it. They're
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just not going to let us take it. And I
don't want to have anybody show up at the airport
and say, well I don't have a real ID, you
can't use a passport. But the real idea is what
we'd really like to have every veteran. So if you
know a veteran, say have you got your real ID yet?
Go get it. And that's by the way, I think
it's different between Iowa and Illinois as to what you
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have to take and give them, So you got to
call the driver's license bureau to find out what you need.
But the real idea is going to become very important.
We're just holding our breath that we don't have any
problems with that.
Speaker 3 (04:39):
And while you're at it, as people are listening to
this today, for some people they could have a passport,
but it's out of date, so it certainly is a
good idea to always update those and make sure that
you're ready to go. And that would be the similar
thing if people want to volunteer and be a guardian.
You've got to make sure you get all this in
order because the day of is too late to be
doing some of this stuff. There's lead time certainly.
Speaker 4 (05:01):
Is it's hurry up and right get in there. We'll
call you.
Speaker 3 (05:05):
It's going to be a busy year in twenty twenty
five because not just one flight or I would think
sometimes it would be two, but you've got three this year,
you got three.
Speaker 4 (05:14):
So we're looking forward to doing that. There's good times.
Spring is hard to do in DC. They have a
cherry blossom festival and you can't hire a bus because
all of uses are taking tourists on a turar bossom
festival tours. So it's really difficult. So we do one
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kind of lateness bring lets in May and then we
do a couple in the fall, and that's beginning to
work out pretty well.
Speaker 3 (05:46):
So the first couple of steps, what should our veterans
or our veterans families start to do outside of making
sure they get the real ID also update the passport.
First couple of steps after that, just.
Speaker 4 (05:59):
Get the application in first. And then what we'll do
is we take the guys who are before nineteen seventy five,
by the date that they applied, We'll call them and
we'll say are you available? Now? Since we're gonna have
some people who may not be available, we always call
our things come up. So if we're going to take
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eighty people on the flight, we'll call one hundred and
say are you available. If that works out well, we'll
send out a letter to them and then they'll tell
them all the details what they need to do, what
they need to bring, dates and times and all that
sort of stuff. But we will call them when their
turn comes up.
Speaker 3 (06:36):
Guardians first off, apply because there'll be some cost in
that too.
Speaker 4 (06:40):
There will be that helps pay for the airplane. It's
not cheap. During an airplane for a day, all of
the guardians pay four hundred dollars to go. And now
I have got many guardians who have had such a
wonderful time that they have paid it three or four
times to go on flight. They just have a great time.
Some of them take pictures and make up those little
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picture books and give them to their veterans after the
flight's over. They're just so wonderful. Some of them write
veterans to their house for Thanksgiving dinner. I mean it's
just really really great. You mean, they make a real,
real good vacation and then a meeting of new friends.
We'll call them well ahead of time say are you
are you available? And we need actually guardians because a
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lot of people work and that they may not work
for them. You know, if I want eighty guardians, I
better call one hundred and twenty.
Speaker 3 (07:33):
And when you talked about some of the veterans how
they've maybe told stories to some of their family, then
getting a chance to talk to some of the guardians,
I would still think Steve, that some of the veterans
still can be tight lips. Sometimes they're not gonna talk,
and it's a great chance for that guardian to be
able to help that veteran come out of their shell.
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Like you said, you can, you can start a life,
even though it's a little bit later in life, you
can start a lifetime friendship with this flight.
Speaker 4 (08:02):
It is that is probably one of the greater things
it comes out of the flight. I mean, it's nice
for them to go and see the memorial, but to
really make a true friend, that's going to you know,
meet them and talk to them, listen to their stories.
I mean, a guardian is going to spend a whole
day focusing in on that veteran, a whole day. The
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last time I had somebody spend the whole day focusing
on me was my honeymoon.
Speaker 3 (08:32):
Hey wait a minute, Steve, Now let's stop getting too
personal on that stuff.
Speaker 4 (08:35):
Okay, what it is, it's a day when somebody really
focuses in and there's questions and I want to hear
the story. Well what about this? Well what was that?
Who did you get love letters from while you were
in the service besides your wife? You know, I mean
those those questions. They have wonderful questions and they get
and what really happens In many many cases, the guardian
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will say, now, don't forget, You've told me some great stories,
but you need to go back to your family and
tell them the stories, and some families say, it's the
first time we heard these stories after they got back
from the after they got back, so it's a time
when there's nobody to judge them. There if anybody's or
with these guardians who are eager to see them, they're
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just going to have a good time and they can lie.
Speaker 3 (09:24):
Well you know what, it's therapeutic.
Speaker 4 (09:27):
Well, they don't really lie, They just leave out parts
and stretch the others. You know, it's kind of going fishing.
Speaker 3 (09:33):
Do the guardians just meet the veteran that they're on
just on the flight that day or is there a
little bit of lead time before the flight?
Speaker 4 (09:40):
There is ten days before we have a meeting for
where all of the veterans and their guardians they get
a chance to meet each other. We'll tell them a
little bit about this. We'll send the veterans home and
then we'll talk to the guardians and we'll give them
some training, things that they may not think about, things
that they have to do, you know, lots of little
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odds and ins that will teach them to help them
have a really wonderful day, help them with the question
questions you might want to ask. Remember, if they get
a bottle of water, you need to unscrew it because
with ours lighters, well.
Speaker 3 (10:13):
You think about this if it's a veteran before nineteen
seventy five, so that probably means that veteran most cases
is in their seventies at least.
Speaker 4 (10:22):
Yeah. Absolutely.
Speaker 3 (10:23):
Now for people that are just tuning in, Steven Garrington,
hub director Honor Flight at the Quad Cities, he is
talking to us.
Speaker 4 (10:29):
They just need to go to our website, download their
application and we'll take care of it. They have a
good time, they really really Some of the guys come
back and say it's the best day of their whole
life other than their wedding. I mean, this is a great,
great time for them. They just really enjoy it. And
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many of the guardians come back and say the exact
same thing.
Speaker 3 (10:53):
Okay, so Flight sixty two, we're still looking for veterans
to fill it, and we're also looking for guardians to
help out. They need their real ID. But the main
thing is fill out the application when you can find
it at the website, when you do a little search
on or fly to the Quad Cities and you get
right to it. But we would certainly think volunteers or
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maybe people that are listening now, just want to donate?
How can they do it?
Speaker 4 (11:18):
Sure? Oh yes, again, there's a app address on the
on the website. You can just send a check or
drop it by Richcrest Village. That's where we have our
office and they just put in our mailbox. But that's
always great and we do so much appreciate it. A
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lot of other groups have fundraisers and then they and
then they say, hey, we had a fundraiser and we're
going to give you the money. Well that's well, I
mean that's great. I love having doing it. And we
have people from way down in southern Illinois. We have
people over in Stealing and Rock Falls and Dixon, and
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people over in Iowa, up and down the river. We
have lots of friends, lots of groups that help. We
had a school at Sabulah, Illinois, just did a bicycle thing.
Sinnus gave us the money. I mean, it's wonderful. This
is always say quad cities, but we're the Quad City area.
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We go way out in the area. We just love it.
Speaker 3 (12:28):
Uh, we just I would say, instead of the Quad
City area, let's just call it the Quad City region
because it's like one big welcome at we actually have.
Speaker 4 (12:38):
A veteran from Minnesota. His daughter lives here in town,
so he's going to drive drive down from Minnesota, stay
a couple of weeks with his daughter and son in law,
and go on the flight.
Speaker 3 (12:52):
Wow, that is it's fantastic. And again we're talking to
Stephen Garrington, hub director Honor Flight of the Quad City Steven,
as we wrap this up here today because I still
feel like we could talk another ten to fifteen minutes
on all the great things that are happening. If people
want to find out more as they get ready for
that first flight. There's going to be three this year,
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sixty two, sixty three, and sixty four. But give us
the date and how they can be a part of
this in one way or the other.
Speaker 4 (13:21):
Well, the date is May May thirteen is the flight.
And of course if they and some people I can't
give with this time I can't go, that's fine, come
out to the airport on that date. Will we'll have
pay information out about that later, but it's May thirteen.
Come out about nine thirty ten o'clock that night and
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welcome the guys home. Say thank you to these deference
for their service. I mean, let them know how much
they're appreciated that that is if nothing else, that is
a great thing to do.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
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Speaker 2 (14:06):
Now back to dot Luke and Danny Linnow.
Speaker 3 (14:12):
We have Lola Vandwali with the Quad City Veteran Outreach
that you can find out more QCVET Outreach dot com.
Big event that's going to be coming in in April
that we're going to have Lola talk about. But Lola,
for the people that see the Quad City Veteran Outreach
Center and they think, first off, they think, oh it
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must it's connected to the VA, It's not connected to
the VA. So there's I mean, even though you maybe
work with them, you're constantly also trying to raise money
in other sources and it seems like you've you've got
a lot of people helping you out.
Speaker 5 (14:48):
We sure we are not connected at all. We receive
no state or federal funding. We work very hard each hear,
all our volunteers, our board and everybody including our veterans
to raise funds to cover our cast and everything far
overhead and that way we raise funds for that and
all the donations one percent go towards the center or
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directly to take care of all of our veterans needs.
Speaker 3 (15:10):
When we last talked to you, and I think it
was you had the run walk last year, and right
around that time, you were moving into a school that
probably an old school that probably now you can look
in the outline of it and go, yeah, it's a school,
but inside it has completely been transformed.
Speaker 6 (15:32):
It has been.
Speaker 5 (15:33):
It is a whole different a whole different atmosphere, and
a whole different center. Now it is all about our veterans.
From one end to the next.
Speaker 3 (15:40):
There's a theater. You've also even have something as simple
as a haircut for the vets. They could just maybe
come in there and boom, get whatever they want and
be able to go about their day.
Speaker 5 (15:51):
That is correct. We have a hair salon, we have
a movie room. We have the gym where they can
work out, they can walk, or they can be a
part of our adaptive sports which is our wheelchair program.
We have a weekly grocery mart in there where they
can come in and pick up stuff. But then we
also have a full grocery store on the other side
of the building, which is our monthly grocery and they
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come in and get their full groceries each month. We
have all kinds of programs.
Speaker 2 (16:17):
That go on.
Speaker 5 (16:18):
We have our library where we have our computer corner,
we have our DVD exchange. There's resource programs offered throughout
the building. So yes, we have stuff going on all
the time. We have a big new gift shop in
the building, so it's all about meeting the needs of
our veterans and camaraderie. We have a coffee bar where
a lot of them come in and sit and just talk.
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And yes, it's all about our veterans. At the center.
Speaker 3 (16:43):
For those of you just tuning in, we're talking to
Lola van de Wally and she is with the Quad
City Veteran Outreach Center. And if you need to find
out more, you know somebody that would love to be
able to stop by there. It's at forty five point
fifteen North Fairmont Street in Davenport. You can find out
more too at QCVET Outreach dot com or you can
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call them five six, three, five two, nine four seven
eight to two. Now, even though we talked about how
you're not connected with the VA directly, you still have
a connection where you're helping or get to I guess referrals.
But if people want to help out, they.
Speaker 5 (17:21):
Can go to qcvets outreach dot com. They can also
call us. They can also participate in our events coming up,
the big race coming up in April. We have all
kinds of programs going on. They can come in and
sign up to volunteer. And our newest program is our
Battle Buddy program which started last year. They become a
Battle Buddy of the Center, which includes a monthly donation
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and to take care of our veterans needs for the month.
Speaker 3 (17:48):
And you also have something I think this is such
a great thing. It can work on raising a little
bit of money, but also honoring anybody that's serving currently
or has served. Is your Honor Wall? Tell us a
little bit more about that.
Speaker 5 (18:00):
Yes, our Honor Wall is where people have purchased plaques
in memory of or in honor of, and they come
in and they get to choose the name, the symbol,
everything they want. And it is now filling our halls
on our bricks with a plaque about a veteran. And
we invite everybody to come and visit the wall in
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our Honor Room of all the things that veterans have
brought to us to see their pictures, their uniforms, everything,
and just come and visit and look at the possibility
of putting up a plaque on the wall. We want
the school full of all the plaques to remember all
of our veterans well.
Speaker 3 (18:38):
Such a great way to put the spotlight on deserving people.
One other funder is is that's happening in April. You
already alluded to it, but it's the five k and
one mile run and walk, That's correct.
Speaker 5 (18:50):
It's the big run for veterans. On Saturday, April twelfth,
We have the five k in the one mile. It
is a timed race, but people are invited to either run,
walk and participate. This year we have added a wheelchair
division and a canine division, So if you have a
dog or support dog, or anybody you want to walk
or run with you, please sign them up. They get
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metals just like the rest of everybody does. It'll start
at the American Legion in Walcott. The American Legion there
has been a great supporter of the center and our veterans.
They will be cooking for all participants after the race,
so everybody will get a meal. That's participating and You
can also come and make a donation if you're not
even signed up to eat with our veterans. So we
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ask everybody to turn out, sign up, be a part
of it, volunteer to help, or just show up to
support everybody as a run to support our veterans.
Speaker 3 (19:43):
It is amazing. Now, hopefully you're not going to be
too busy where you can grab some of that food too.
It seems like you'll be so busy you probably won't
eat at all on April twelfth.
Speaker 6 (19:54):
Probably won't, but it's going to be a great.
Speaker 3 (19:56):
Day, okay. So for people that want to be a
part or find out more. Again, we said the website
a few times and said the numbers, but as we're
going out here this morning for people, or is it
possible to do tours? How can people find out more
on the great work that you do over at the
Quad City Veteran Outreach Center.
Speaker 5 (20:14):
They can call, but you can come in. You come in,
stop in and visit the center. We would love to
give you a tour the center. We have people there
all the time, So stop in and see us Monday
through Thursday till three o'clock daily and we'll give you
a tour. Or call, look on the website and we
would be at We'd love to have all the community
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Speaker 1 (21:38):
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Speaker 2 (21:45):
Now back to bat Luke and Danny Linnell.
Speaker 3 (21:57):
Brooke Kendricks from Every Child Vice President to Development and
Communication on the phone today. And if for the people
involved in this conversation, the three of us, not only Brooke, myself,
Pat Luke and Danny Lynn Howe, if it seems familiar,
it's because we did this the day before. And I'm
a team player. Yeah, I'm a team player. Yes you are.
I'm all over about being a team But when it's
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my fault, I tend to not I want to blame
my fingers appointing at everybody else, the technology. Just blame
the technology hit yes when I should have hit no.
And that's my problem. But Brooke, thank you for coming
on and talking to us again today about all the
great things with every Child, and of course every Child.
It's an inclusive name, but it's a name that some
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people may not know what you guys do.
Speaker 6 (22:45):
Yeah, so, first of all, I have also hit the
wrong button. I get it like the right answer, it does.
Speaker 3 (22:55):
It throws me off. But again I'd like to get
off of this embarrassing situation and let's talk about it
important to an important organization with every Child.
Speaker 6 (23:06):
Yes, so Every Child has been part of the Quad
Cities community for almost fifty years. We changed our name
about three years ago to Every Child. It used to
be child abuse counsel. We were just looking for something,
like you said, more inclusive of the programs that we do.
Most of our programs are preventive programs, so most of
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most of what we deal with is not child abuse neglect.
It's preventing child abuse and neglect. So we want families
that come to us to know that that they're not
there because their child's been abused and neglected. They're there
because it's okay for parents to seek support and it's
okay for the community to seek support. April is child
abuse Prevention month. You'll start seeing pinwheels popping up all
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over the.
Speaker 3 (23:52):
Communities and for people and for people that with the
pinwheel there, they're blue pinwheels and whine, why the blue
pin Will people get in trouble if they put a
red pinwheel up or have a big garden? Or is
this what's his significance with the blue pinwheels.
Speaker 6 (24:10):
No one will get in trouble for putting up other colors.
Speaker 3 (24:12):
Of pin wheels didn't take.
Speaker 6 (24:13):
So blue is the color for a child abuse prevention month.
And then the blue pinwheel is a symbol of healthy, happy,
joyful kind of care free childhoods that we want for
every child in our community.
Speaker 3 (24:29):
This is fantastic. So it starts where.
Speaker 6 (24:31):
Davenport Police Department will have the first Pinweel garden, and
that ceremony starts at ten thirty. The Pinwell Garden ceremonies
last about fifteen to twenty.
Speaker 3 (24:40):
Minutes and then when so obviously it's not just a
Davenport there, But will they be springing up the rest
of the month.
Speaker 6 (24:48):
Yes, we have six big pinwheel gardens in the area.
Saint Ambos University will have one at their children's campus,
The Rock Island County Children's Advocacy Center has one, There'll
be one down at the Muscatine County Courthouse because we
have services there, one at the Rock Island County Courthouse,
and then the malli And Police Department. We'll have one
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kind of to wrap up the big planting ceremony.
Speaker 3 (25:12):
And if people want to take part in this, And
this was getting back to how this conversation sounds the
same as yesterday when we taped it. I remember bringing
this up where I thought would if people want to
be a part of it, they could start their own
pinwheel garden and maybe send a picture off to the website.
Speaker 6 (25:30):
Absolutely, and we will have. Besides those big gardens we
have I think nineteen smaller gardens popping up. Wow, like
skip Along South Park Psychology. We've got all over the
Quad Cities. So yes, absolutely, if you want to plant
your own pin wheels and send us a picture, you
can send that to me on email and my emails
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on our website.
Speaker 3 (25:52):
Now when people want to help and we talk about
the donations that they could do, is there a way
for people to maybe volunteer with every Child?
Speaker 6 (26:03):
Yes. Actually, one of our programs is very much volunteer based.
It's our court appointed special Advocate. So there are volunteers
that work with kids in the foster care system kind
of helping to be their eyes and ears and being
helping that child find their voice in the court system.
Speaker 3 (26:19):
And they can find out more at the website which
is for.
Speaker 6 (26:23):
Every Child dot org f o R every Child dot org.
Speaker 3 (26:27):
Got it Now? The month itself is big, and then
as the other things that will happen tied into every
Child through the month of April. A big event that's
happening at the end of the month, And I'm still
not sure is it Gala? Is it Gala? All I
know when I see that I go, it's got to
be a big day, yes, and.
Speaker 6 (26:47):
I think that is that is the crux of that
word is it's an show is important, yes, gala or gala,
but no one knows how to say it.
Speaker 3 (26:56):
And namely right away. I mean, I can think of
this event tables if you want to book a table,
but also sponsorship. Are they still available?
Speaker 6 (27:05):
Yep, we do still have some sponsorships available, and I
guess kind of to back up our Child Abuse Prevention
month ends or culminates with the Celebrate Every Child gala
or gala, however you want to say it. All information
for the Celebrate Every Child event is on our website.
Tickets are still available, tables are still available. We do
still have some sponsorship opportunities open, and I say some
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just because some of the bigger like having the sponsor
name on the back of a T shirt, that's already
been done. So some of those bigger options are the
timeline has passed, always open to sponsors. And then the
event itself is Thursday, April twenty fourth. This year. We'll
be at Rhythm City Casino starts at five point thirty.
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Tickets include heavier derves posted bar. They'll be alive in
a silent auction. We'll have a wine pole and then
we have the Mullyan High School Chamber organ coming for entertainment,
and we'll also have a former client as our guest speaker.
Speaker 5 (28:06):
That's great now with the orchestra being.
Speaker 3 (28:09):
There, very excited about this. Here are we going to
hear the Moleine fight song with pinkies up?
Speaker 2 (28:14):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (28:14):
You have to when you're doing it. If you have
an orchestra, you can't do. We are Moleiners. We're from
Moleine without your pinkies up right, I mean, that's it.
And this is not their first time that they've been there, No,
this will.
Speaker 6 (28:27):
Be I believe their third year. And it's really great.
Mister Morton, the director and his orchestra group, they always
stay and participate in the live auction and in those
festivities kind of after the entertainment part's over, so they
say they enjoy, they eat, have a couple of tables.
It's a great way to promote what kids are, the
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positive things kids are doing in our community, and then
also to get them involved in that philanthropy part of
our community.
Speaker 3 (28:56):
And by some of the pictures that we saw in
previous years, I mean big where wherever the event is held,
it's always just big stuff. So lots of stuff going
on at the website. But if people want to be
a part of the big gala or gala to wrap
things up at Rhythm City Casino, what do they do?
Speaker 6 (29:16):
The easiest spot to go would be to our website,
which is for every Child dot org. It's f R
everychild dot Org. There's also a space on our website
to just send an email if you have questions or
to contact us. That goes directly to me. So if
you get on there and you get lost, feel free
to fill that out, send me an email and I
can help you.
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