January 5, 2025 • 36 mins
Discover how Brazilian immigrants Cristiana and Evelyn transformed their American dream into Boston's premier piercing studio. A mother-daughter entrepreneurial journey on Que Pasa Boston.
Immigrant Dreams to Business Success: The INKREDIBLE Story
Join us for an inspiring episode featuring Christina and Evelyn, the dynamic mother-daughter duo behind INKREDIBLE Body Art. From cleaning houses to building Boston's leading piercing studio, their journey embodies the immigrant entrepreneurial spirit.
In this powerful episode, discover:
• How they transformed adversity into opportunity
• Building a luxury brand from scratch
• Navigating the beauty industry as immigrants
• Creating a legacy through family business
• Their secrets to success in the American market
A story that proves when talent meets determination, dreams become INKREDIBLE.
De Sueños Inmigrantes a Éxito Empresarial: La Historia INKREDIBLE
Acompáñanos en este episodio inspirador con Christina y Evelyn, el poderoso dúo madre-hija detrás de INKREDIBLE Body Art. De limpiar casas a construir el estudio de piercings más prestigioso de Boston, su historia encarna el espíritu emprendedor inmigrante.
En este potente episodio, descubre:
• Cómo transformaron la adversidad en oportunidad
• La construcción de una marca de lujo desde cero
• Navegando la industria de la belleza como inmigrantes
• Creando un legado a través del negocio familiar
• Sus secretos para el éxito en el mercado americano
Una historia que demuestra que cuando el talento se encuentra con la determinación, los sueños se vuelven INKREDIBLES.
Immigrant Dreams to Business Success: The INKREDIBLE Story
Join us for an inspiring episode featuring Christina and Evelyn, the dynamic mother-daughter duo behind INKREDIBLE Body Art. From cleaning houses to building Boston's leading piercing studio, their journey embodies the immigrant entrepreneurial spirit.
In this powerful episode, discover:
• How they transformed adversity into opportunity
• Building a luxury brand from scratch
• Navigating the beauty industry as immigrants
• Creating a legacy through family business
• Their secrets to success in the American market
A story that proves when talent meets determination, dreams become INKREDIBLE.
De Sueños Inmigrantes a Éxito Empresarial: La Historia INKREDIBLE
Acompáñanos en este episodio inspirador con Christina y Evelyn, el poderoso dúo madre-hija detrás de INKREDIBLE Body Art. De limpiar casas a construir el estudio de piercings más prestigioso de Boston, su historia encarna el espíritu emprendedor inmigrante.
En este potente episodio, descubre:
• Cómo transformaron la adversidad en oportunidad
• La construcción de una marca de lujo desde cero
• Navegando la industria de la belleza como inmigrantes
• Creando un legado a través del negocio familiar
• Sus secretos para el éxito en el mercado americano
Una historia que demuestra que cuando el talento se encuentra con la determinación, los sueños se vuelven INKREDIBLES.
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
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entrepreneurs Ques and fantasticas and Jessa.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
I'm really excited to showcase today two wonderful women that
are an inspiration because they're a mom and a daughter,
a family business that we're bringing in today to share
some inspirational stories. And I am very, very much so
inspired myself because I saw them work on my daughter
(00:45):
and I saw them work on me, and they are
into bodyyard and piercings and all these cool stuff that
sometimes we as Hispanics and as multicultural backgrounds, we tend
to be against. But nowadays it's art. It's all a definition,
is a part of showing who you are. And with
(01:07):
a warm welcome, let's give the microphone to Chris and
her daughter, Evelyn. Evelyn welcome, Thank you. I am so excited.
Can I tell how we met?
Speaker 4 (01:23):
Sure?
Speaker 3 (01:24):
Yes, So my daughter was looking for a piercing and
she has one that she one time she got it
on her nose and we were in Seattle as a
matter of fact, and when she got the piercing, she
she's always been afraid of needles, and I knew that
there was going to be some kind of like shocking experience,
and indeed she passed out and she entered into a
(01:45):
ce shirt and then she was happy because she had
a hole in her nose, which I could not understand right,
But after seeing everybody at her school and after knowing
what the trends are, it was very very cool to
see that it's a part of an expression that she
wanted to have in her body. And then I got,
you know, over it. What is it like for you
(02:08):
guys to start a business as a family, And Christy's
question goes for you like, how is a mom? And
you know, as a beautiful woman as you are, because
if you see her, you're going to see her in
our social media too. She's gorgeous, both of them. What
got you into this expression? Bodyyard and makeup and permanent makeup,
(02:29):
you know type of thing.
Speaker 4 (02:30):
Yeah, it's it's a long story, but everything start with
like supporting in amazing people who cross my life. So
started my career as anstitutian is skin care. Actually it
was a nail technician when I just moved to here.
My first work was a nail technician and I work
on the Big Spine Brookline and was my first job
(02:54):
here as assistant. And she hired me to be assistant
that big spot. They have bum sage facials and nails,
and she said, why you don't have a license so
you can do other supports on the floor. And I
was desperate for work. I was so sure, and I
met her and she supported me to go to the school,
(03:18):
like let's take the nails because she sawry I was
doing nails for friends and family and that's how I
started build up this kind of career. And she's like,
if you go into the school and you take your license,
I will put it. I'm going to start helping you
to build up your clientele. You can build up your career.
So I always love it'statics, but not never have the
(03:40):
experience to work with So I didn't study for that that.
Speaker 3 (03:43):
I mean, like, how long ago was that?
Speaker 4 (03:45):
That was like sixteen seventeen years?
Speaker 3 (03:48):
I mean, what were you twenty?
Speaker 4 (03:50):
Like? No, looked so young. I was early on all
my early tuties.
Speaker 3 (03:55):
Okay, and you come from my twenties.
Speaker 4 (03:57):
I we are originally from Brazil, South Brazil, Okina. Yes,
I'm born in Christian Santa Catarina Evelyn tous So.
Speaker 5 (04:09):
She's yeah, born and raised in Brazil. I came here
when I was four years old, So I'm more American
than i am Brazilian, but my roots are pretty strong too.
Speaker 3 (04:18):
Do you speak Portuguese too, Yes?
Speaker 5 (04:19):
I speak Portuguese.
Speaker 4 (04:24):
Me and Venina bing Vina, yeah, bing Venavina, I can.
Speaker 3 (04:30):
Be Portuguese too.
Speaker 4 (04:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (04:32):
How is it to work with your mom? Like now
that she started her business, she you know you you
decided to do this, and how do you incorporate yourself
into this world?
Speaker 5 (04:43):
So I I think I started out just by like
when it was like COVID year I was graduating high school,
I had time off. It was like hybrid. I would
spend my days like online classes, going to work with her,
just to get out of the house and not be
stuck all the time time. And I just always had
a passion for like ear piercings and like expressing myself
(05:06):
through piercings.
Speaker 3 (05:07):
Like you said, your daughter likes to express herself.
Speaker 5 (05:10):
And she was like, you know, you should consider like
studying this or just like watching me, And like I
would occasionally watch like a procedure or two that she
did just the basic stuff, and I would help out
at the front desk sometimes just like me, like helping
people pick out their jewelry or like learning about the
different procedures that you could do. And then eventually, when
she opened up her own business, she kind of came
(05:31):
forth and was like, is this something that would interest
you while you finish your studies at school and whatnot?
And I was like, I mean, it seems like a lot,
and it's a little intimidating, but I think it would
be pretty cool to, you know, learn to express myself
and help other people express themselves too in a different way.
So then she signed me up to get my apprenticeship
(05:52):
and we started working together and she taught me all
the things that I needed to know from what I
had already learned over the years of going to work
with her and learning things at the other studios that
she worked at. And then eventually she signed off on
my license and I've been working with her ever since.
Speaker 3 (06:07):
Amazing.
Speaker 4 (06:08):
So old are you?
Speaker 3 (06:09):
I'm twenty one years old, twenty one and you already
have your own business along with your mom. Yeah, that
is fantastic. Were you scared of blood and like, you know,
like to see people crying because you can see a
lot of the damaging that you're doing to their faces.
It's a damage, but at the same time, it's you know,
it turns into a beautiful piece. So that is the process, right.
Speaker 5 (06:33):
I don't think I was ever really scared of blood.
But there's actually a funny story. One of the first
piercings I ever did was on my mom, and it
was a low piercing and it's supposed to be something
that isn't super crazy and doesn't cause a lot of blood.
But I totally missed the transfer between the jewelry and
the needle, and the jewelry didn't go all the way through,
and all of a sudden, she was bleeding and I
(06:54):
was like freaking out and I was like, Mom, I
killed you.
Speaker 4 (06:58):
What's going on? I was like, I can't do this anymore.
Speaker 5 (07:02):
But she ended up she was just like laughed it off,
and she was like taking pictures of herself.
Speaker 4 (07:06):
She's like, look what Evelyn did to me.
Speaker 5 (07:07):
And I was like, why are you not traumatized because
I'm traumatized, and she's like, Evelyn, this is gonna happen,
Like you might miss the needle, you might miss the
mark like it's okay, like you need to just like relax.
And I think just like watching her like always be calm,
like because she was always afraid of needles and blood
like that, are you really? She definitely was the type
(07:29):
to be scared of that.
Speaker 3 (07:30):
Sly.
Speaker 4 (07:30):
I never picture myself doing that, working on the spot
like so singing in classic calm music and to the
needles and like a body art. So that's how I
never picture myself. But the transition to the spot to
the body art. So how you ask, like how that happened?
So I want to like bring the tattoo eyebrows my
(07:54):
eye service. And I realized it was completely different fields
you as a setitian, you know, it's like stay and
like a body health. So and I went to the classes.
I took my classes with amazing artists. She teached me everything,
but I was stacked, like I can't perform. So what
I have to do back in the days was different
(08:15):
than now. In the days, they have specific classes. You
go straight to the classes. They have like a protocol
to follow up if you want to be a body
art or a permanent makeup artist. Back in the days,
I don't have options. So I went to the town
and they say you have to be a prince at
tattoo shop. And I have my certificate, I have my
(08:36):
classes and I can perform.
Speaker 3 (08:37):
You went from working on a spot to attack to parloa.
Speaker 4 (08:41):
So when I'm gonna go, so I search you around.
It doesn't have much options back in the day. But
my tattoo artists back in the days. He was about
to open. He was just opening the studio, and I
contact him because I have many tattoos from here. My
husband has tattoos from him. He was our do you
know we have a hairdressing or mini carry. I have
(09:04):
my tattoo guy and I call him like, I know
you just opened the studio. Maybe it's not just the time,
but this is my situation. Now. I took a classes
and now I need one year apprenticeship. I would like
to know if you can open the door for me
and have me like at least one time once a
week to be able to perform my clients under the
(09:26):
law and build up my apprenticeship has to be one year.
I ended up. He said, of course sure. His wife
was also an institutian, so it was like my goal
was like getting my one year apprenticeship and I ended
up working almost over three years, so.
Speaker 3 (09:45):
You ended up loving and loving. That changed everything for you,
everything for me, so.
Speaker 4 (09:50):
From the static to the body art and I met
amazing artists, amazing techniques. I will made your.
Speaker 3 (10:01):
Difference that you saw between one business and another one huge, yes,
huge different.
Speaker 4 (10:08):
Like I still have like some.
Speaker 3 (10:16):
A preconceptor conception because.
Speaker 4 (10:19):
I was a permanent makeup artist who work in the
tattoo shop. Like back in the days, they they think
like a tattoo. No, I wanted like a Michael bleeding.
I don't want a tattoo on my eyebrows. When they
see me inside the studio, I thought I will tattoo
the eyebrows. They have to have like a huge conversation
with the clients to trust on me as esthetician and
(10:42):
now I'm not going to perform a regular tattoo in
your eyebrows.
Speaker 3 (10:46):
The idea a different process.
Speaker 4 (10:48):
It's a differ process. Now they have apprenticeship with like
academy just for permanent makeup, so like a five seven
years ago, they don't have here. It was one here
and one they're involved.
Speaker 3 (11:00):
So now about in Brazil, because this is something that
happens to me and being from Mexico, and I used
to do things the Mexican white Obviously in the country, licenses, permits,
it's completely different. It's a different ballgame here. You come
and then if you don't have a license, a certificate,
the board of health, there's a lot that comes for legalities.
(11:22):
What was the most difficult part for you, besides the
business side, but also culturally? How did you adapt from
Brazil and living there to come into the United States
and doing and opening your business.
Speaker 4 (11:35):
So I came from completely different business. I was not
as a teachan in Brazil. I graduated college as international
business and I always dream about take care business, strive
for the world, be a trader and business woman, not
as aesthetic.
Speaker 3 (11:52):
I have that business background, but not in.
Speaker 4 (11:55):
The nine year So what brings me to that industry?
Here was my background As a teenager, I was doing
my friends nails on the neighborhood to make a little
five dollars five reels extra on the weekends. I never
picture myself to doing this is a new career, I'd
say when it was in Brazil and it was in school.
(12:15):
I want to be business. I work as a financial
I work as a Cosmo service. I work with so
many bookkeeper like all those things, not the spot no performance.
Speaker 3 (12:28):
Do you remember that of your mom? Oh no, no,
I were too young for that, right.
Speaker 5 (12:32):
I remember like when when we were here. I remember
when she was like doing her mobile SPA services, like
going everywhere with her, and like, yes, I'd be like
her little assistant. I'd get all like the foot tubs
ready and like the nail polishes, and I'd prep the
clients who needed to go and get their services.
Speaker 4 (12:50):
Done no time like now and we get like I
don't have a license yet, but I did, like my friends,
and like it was kind of my part time. I
don't even know, like you need the license because it
was the first few months here you were lost. You
You are like I need work. I can come into
another country and I came here to work. You don't
(13:11):
choose what to do.
Speaker 3 (13:12):
And I love that you're mentioning that because I'm going
to give a big shout out to my friend Julia. Julia,
she's a city councilor for Boston and one of the
things that she has accomplished and I don't know if
you know that, Nicole, but she is amazing because understands
the detail of like having a business and starting off.
(13:34):
Sometimes you start at home. So she has now passed
different laws that you are able to start your business
at home and you don't need to put all these
investments up front of like renting a space and having
you know, all these other extra utility expenses. That it's
hard at the beginning as it is. And never mind,
you know when you have to operate from a different
(13:56):
place that is not your home. So that was my quotation.
Mark right here is like it's really important for us
to speak up and to share the experience with our
city councilors because they can do a big difference. They
can make a difference when it comes for the future
of our children. So now you're not probably gonna deal
with that because things have changed. So you remember your
(14:17):
mom doing all of these things for her friends. You're
the assistant and now you're running around, but you have
other children. Dina's not the only one I.
Speaker 4 (14:26):
Do have, but now she's ten years old. Back in
the days was just evling. I've was the only for
til years. Yeah, I get these little kids, she says.
She helped me to holding I get a supplies on
like CVS and stores like for nails, and I don't
even know, like you have a professional When you have
a professional license, you can get a professional product with
(14:49):
much better quality. And a friend of mine I used
to live in the condo and she leaves next door
and she's like, Chris, you're doing very well on the nails.
Everybod it doesn't nails. You should start build up your clientele.
Then I built up this little case to do on
the weekends while I was working as a babysitter, I
(15:11):
was working at clean the house away, working Mondays to
Thursday and Friday, I have a little helper, like it
was always a different job, and Saturday it was just nails,
nails and nails.
Speaker 3 (15:22):
So, Chris, were you speaking English back then? No?
Speaker 4 (15:25):
No, And like when that opportunity for the Brookline place
came was like around five months. I was here and
a friend who was cleaned the house with me. Her
name is Lana. It's part of my story and we
are the helpers. It's like, Chris, I went to the
church this weekend and I saw on the wall and
(15:47):
they looking for a nail technician. You should go there.
It's inspiring. Brookline in Brookline it's a good location. We
clean houses in Brooklyn Line being in Boston every day,
and she's like, you know, it's a good location. You
gonna maybe get a real job. I was like it insane,
Like I don't speak any English. Who is going to
(16:07):
hire someone from Brazil who just came here no license?
And I can't. And she's like, I don't think. I
just think you should go. I just think you should go.
Speaker 3 (16:17):
And she is like so she was, so she is
that really saw the beauty and you of like.
Speaker 4 (16:25):
The you should go, should go this opportunity. You know
you have to clean house the rest of your life,
like you should go. It should go.
Speaker 3 (16:31):
We all need one of those friends in our lives,
don't you think?
Speaker 4 (16:35):
That's what I call the beginning of the interval. This
kind of person came to my life, and that is
few people came and transformed my whole life, and Londa
was one because she was the one who brings me
the news and I went to the I called and
she said, I think she speaks Portuguese because it was
in Portuguese the notes in the church and she's going
to the Portuguese community church. I said, okay, I will
(16:59):
give a try. I call and say you speak Portuguese,
and she said Portuguese, Portuguese. Seeing my name is Christiana.
Her name is Levina. She's one big friend from my
family now in the days, and she will be always
on my heart because that's how we start my story
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with her and make me very emotional because that's how
everything changed my life. And she she's amazing well. I
learn a lot with her. I hate her many days, but.
Speaker 3 (17:32):
She changes me.
Speaker 4 (17:33):
She pushed me and she showed me how to be
brave because she's gonna hire me. I don't have any license.
I have to find something to do. It's a big spa.
I clean laundry, I vote the laundry. I do everything
to support other institutions and new technicians. But she pushed
me to go to school to be better and make
more money.
Speaker 3 (17:52):
And I feel, Evelina, when you see your mom this
emotional and you see what she had to go through.
Speaker 5 (17:59):
I'm very grateful because I know that all of that
work is going to translate into my good success in
future as well.
Speaker 3 (18:07):
I'm emotion all now. I'm like, yeah, my tears are
coming out.
Speaker 4 (18:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (18:11):
It's a lot of hard work and I I it
like I never really thought about it, but now, like
you know, wrapping up school and getting ready to graduate
and get my big girl job and all these things.
Like just actually appreciating the hustle that my parents have
gone through was like, damn they they really went pretty far.
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And I'm so grateful for it because I know, like
like she said, like if she never went and got that,
you know, never went for that opportunity to like paint nails,
like she could be cleaning houses. Still she maybe she
would have never learned English. Maybe we would be in
a completely different situation.
Speaker 3 (18:47):
It's a comfort zone and nothing, but is it very
hard work?
Speaker 4 (18:52):
Oh I remember my hands was peeling off, like and
she'll getting used to the produce is a lot of
chemical exposure. You make a good money. I can't tell
you it's a good money cleaned the house, but it's lot.
Speaker 3 (19:05):
But the cost is high too. It is because your
body pays.
Speaker 4 (19:08):
For it pays for and like the injury from back
and like holding the p and this, Mamdi is like
my body took like a while to get used to
and we use gloves and everything. But still and I
came from this opportunities and she book appointments and said, no,
come in here, let's do an interview. I was like,
really driving, I was comfortable to driving to Boston and
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went there. She said, okay, we're gonna do my nails today.
She is Brazilian and she was like, let's do my nails.
Speaker 3 (19:39):
Let's see how you work.
Speaker 1 (19:40):
Oh.
Speaker 4 (19:40):
I have many instories about how I did her nails.
But of course she choose red polish. Yes, to make
sure I know how to do that.
Speaker 3 (19:49):
We all have here our red.
Speaker 4 (19:51):
We know how hard it is to painting the red
because the pigment if you touched the skin just doesn't Yeah. Yeah, okay,
And I did her nails and she's like, you're doing
fair well, like I really like you. And what days
you can work? I was like, what days I can work? Yeah? Yeah,
so if you're available, you can start next week. And
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I remember back in the days. She's like, I pay
you by hourly and once you get your license, I
will be able to book clients for you. And she
showed me what's going to be my work. But she
said keeping practicing and go to the school as soon
as you can, and I start. I was still clean
(20:34):
the house Monday to Thursday and I went to the
SPA Fridays and Saturdays all day and that's how I
went to the school and I took my license. I
was the institution. I built up the career and I
still want to do the eyebrows. She's like, well, I
don't think I bro should be good like keeping on
the aesthetics and I really want to go to the
(20:55):
school for eyebrows. But like I work for her for
over eight years, like back and forth, because I gave
a break. I went to school and I working on
other places in between. But in the mid we have
some issues, like I had like a relationship relationship, but
I'm so grateful for everything I learned with her and
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would be forever like that. And I back on I
went to the school for eyebrows. I remember I wasn't
work with her. I was working close home because I moved.
That's when I moved over and I was like looking
for a place to be apprenticeship and my my friend
just opened the studio and I worked there for over
(21:39):
three years and I still was doing.
Speaker 3 (21:42):
Insteadic as a tattoo parlor.
Speaker 4 (21:44):
That was a big tattoo part. He opened the first
studio in Denvers. I think it was twenty eighteen or nineteen,
and it was brand new, and that's when I went
there to do my apprenticeship. Yeah, my apprenticeship was already knew.
Speaker 3 (22:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (22:01):
Yeah, I was there and I learned a lot, a lot.
But the thing about transition to piercing, it's very funny
because he always opened mind and he say, I really
like you, and like, when I don't have clients, I
was always looking for something to do. I was at
your hands and take something new, and I was not
supposed that was not part of my job. But if
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the phone is ring right here, I took the phone
and like, I can I help you. It's not my job,
but oh okay, the artistism is available.
Speaker 3 (22:31):
When a book appointment, I was like, I learned that process.
Speaker 4 (22:34):
I learned the process, and I think that's how you learn.
But I feel like some people lose the opportunity because
hear my job. They don't pay me to do that.
I'm not gonna do that, but I know some people
like that part of your evolution, the way you will. Yeah,
it's part of that. It's not just like take your paycheck.
(22:57):
I could take clients. No, it's part to take a trash.
Speaker 3 (22:59):
Clean and is the phone with all these that you're
telling me. All the process, you're always taking the initiative
to look for another opportunity, which opportunity yes, for your sake,
You're always saying, like I already have a no, let
me look for the yes. Right, Like, so don't I
already don't know it. But if I try it, I'm
(23:20):
going to learn and I'm gonna have like new outcomes
because you cannot repeat the same thing and expect a
different result. Right. But in this case, one of the
things that called my attention and being in the aesthetics world,
the government is very linient when it comes to permits
and licenses and certifications. What can you tell the audience
(23:41):
in Boston in Massachusetts, we need to understand that when
you show up to a place and you want some
work done, you have to really look into who's doing
that service for you. Because it's your life, is your health,
is your face, is your body that you are getting
altered and you need to know where you going. And
I'm saying this because one of the moments that really
(24:05):
opened my eyes and it's a shame on me because
I know better. When my daughter brought me to you guys,
she was very animate. She told me she probably did
tell me. I don't remember because I'm crazy busy and
I didn't pay attention. But she told me to bring
her passport, her ID or whatever, like just to prove
that I'm the mom and she's my daughter, and like
(24:26):
we went there for her piercing. But when we got there, Chris,
you were very serious like, and I admired that it
really got me upset. I was so mad because I
had driven all the way to andover, which was not
that bad. It was seventeen minutes I drove over there,
and I thought that I was gonna have like everything
done boom bim batabuom, my daughter passing out, moving on
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because she's very like scared two needles. So I knew
the process in my head that it was going to
be fast. And when I get there, you say like, well,
I'm sorry, I cannot take care of your daughter. Yeah,
And I was like, she is really working my nurse today.
I don't need it because I'm moving, I'm in boxes.
Where am I gonna find this bird certificate?
Speaker 4 (25:09):
That was my thing?
Speaker 3 (25:10):
It was not just getting it. I know I have it,
but for those who are listening, I am so happy
you did that, because that's the right way of doing it.
Tell me why you denied me so and we.
Speaker 4 (25:25):
Are very happy to hear that. I remember when you say, crazy,
I don't have the bird certificated. I have to go
back home. And you left, and I tell Evely so
she knows we could, especially saturdays because you have a
lot of families coming to the studio on Saturdays, and say,
I think we have like a said mom, so we
can't perform. And I was about to leave because I
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think I was blocked after two or something. I was
about to leave because we thought it was in the
back room with me. And I say, if they come back,
I don't know if they still come back, but I
don't think if they're gonna find it. She say, I
think they will be back in one because I think
you'll send a message, and said she looked like really
sad because she can.
Speaker 3 (26:06):
I can't. I was outside. I was wicked, mad, mad, okay, okay,
we have a mad mom.
Speaker 4 (26:13):
And having said no, I think they will come back.
But why we do that? So we take very serious.
So and we know my whole life how hard it
is to be officially licensed to perform a specific service
and body art is way more because you deal with
what a health, you deal with blood. We open your
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skin and it's very responsibility. That's how we call procedure.
It's not just all just put a piercing. And yes
we have a meaning made who has to leave, but
we we try like a different ways to remind her
them and everything, but they still happen and we try.
Why we do that, We do that to protect you
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because any wanted very well. Any one can walk into
your child and say, oh, I'm the mom, so I
can sign. Everyone can sign, but how I will know
if you really are the mom? So technically, officially the
birth certificate is the only paperwork shows your name as
a mom. My passport doesn't show your name as a mom,
so id either. So sometimes the kids has an idea
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around sixteen seventeen years old, but your name is not there.
They look alike, Yes, I look alike of my nephew's too.
If I walk into my name, y, you're right, looks
like my daughter, they will look alike. But it's to
protect you. And yes we have some situations the kids.
The kids try just signed for the parents, no sign
(27:42):
for the parents, but say Oh, my mom can do
by the phone. My mom can do a FaceTime and
say yes, Nope, no they can't.
Speaker 3 (27:50):
That's the way why I came back because when I
was driving, I was just like coming back to my senses,
like breathing and exhaling and like you know, like yo
got and my daughter was so upset. She was crying.
She's like, momm I really wanted my persons. She was
really really say that she was sad. So I started
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thinking and I said, you know what, she is absolutely right,
and if you're going to do anything to your body,
I will certainly turn around and come back to Chris
and Evelina and do it there because I know that
you care. You care for your business, you care for
the well being of my child, you care for the
well being of myself also, and you're doing the things right.
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So again, coming to the area where you see that
there are some people that are performing surgery is at home,
that they are doing things that are completely illegal, and
then you see them. I have a friend, I mean, like,
tell you this story. This is really scary. She lives
in Miami. That's my daughter's friend. She got a botox
(28:54):
injection like to augmentation but they injected some sort of
oil that was like industrial oil, nothing that the body
would absorb. They ended up like for an entire year.
She couldnot sit down. She had to be either laying
on her stomach, and they had to remove the entire
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glued area because it was almost killing her, like she
went into a septic situation. She was dying. And she
was a very young mom of a one year old.
And I just do not understand, like in what like
that somebody is going to go and get injected whatever,
who knows what. So for that like particular reason, I
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invited you guys to come here because I personally would
have never, which.
Speaker 4 (29:44):
Now I have a piercing you see this, I have
a piercing on.
Speaker 3 (29:47):
My know that I would have never in a million years.
Speaker 4 (29:51):
I know I didn't.
Speaker 3 (29:52):
I came for my daughter, but I felt so protected
and comfortable that I was like, if I'm ever gonna
do it, this is the place where I will do it.
So I want the audience to understand in Boston, please
open your minds to what the consequences are, especially you, Evelina,
you're young. What would you tell people that are your
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age that are looking for that quick fix? Of like
I want to look like my friend and I need
the piercing on my eyebrow, or I want these tattoo
and they don't even know if the needles are you know,
glean or like.
Speaker 5 (30:24):
Yes, yes, yeah, it's actually I've seen it a lot
on like TikTok and Instagram reels people my age and
technically a little younger still, like teenagers in high school.
They'll buy like piercing kids on Amazon or like Sheene,
and they'll do it themselves at home.
Speaker 3 (30:40):
Oh my goodness, I didn't even know that.
Speaker 5 (30:42):
Right, And like, you know, by all means, I can't
stop you. You're in the freedom of your own home.
But a lot of those people end up coming to
us asking for help when they're piercing doesn't go right,
and they're like, I have a big bump, I have
a keyloid, it's infected, Like what do I do? I'm
freaking out? And then you assess, you assess your client,
and it's how old are you? When did you pierce this,
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what did you pierce it with? And it's like most
clients are not in the right headspace, they're not the
right age. That's why there's certain laws limitations from Massachusetts, like,
you're not. You can't do certain body piercings unless you're
fourteen years old. So like facial piercings or anything that's
you know, cartilage or eyebrow lip piercing, you have to
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be at least fourteen. But even us, like us too,
we try to recommend being at least sixteen because then
you have that mental maturity to be able to take
care of your piercing, to be able to understand what
that piercing is going to do for your expression of yourself,
but also how you look. And then if you decide
you don't want the piercing anymore, the scar tissue that
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it can leave behind.
Speaker 4 (31:43):
And things like that.
Speaker 3 (31:46):
So people don't even think of that.
Speaker 4 (31:48):
They don't.
Speaker 5 (31:49):
They don't. They want that quick fix. That's why they
buy the piercing kits. That's why they try to come
in and get something done. Oh, that's why they call in.
They're like, well, why does my daughter who's thirteen years
old and her friends all have belly button piercings. Why
can't you pierce her belly button? I'm like, well, her
friends probably went somewhere where it's legal to do it,
or they did it somewhere where they did it under
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the table and they don't care.
Speaker 1 (32:11):
We care.
Speaker 5 (32:12):
We don't want to obviously infringe upon our business, but
we know that, you know, everyone's growing and changing and
learning things at certain rates. And it's just it's so
much more than just like a piece of metal in
your skin. It's about taking care of it. It's about
learning how to you know, combat the piercing bumps that
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come with it and the scar tissue that comes with it.
And then if you decide you don't want it anymore, like,
how are you going to take care of it afterwards?
Because as we like we say, it's a procedure. It's
not just a piercing, it's a whole procedure. You know,
we set up we have to be sterile, we have
to you know, we've got biohazard boxes in there.
Speaker 4 (32:53):
We auto clay our stuff.
Speaker 5 (32:55):
Yeah, like this it's some pretty it's not just like
you don't just yeah, people.
Speaker 4 (33:00):
Don't they get serious.
Speaker 3 (33:02):
And let me tell you something. I wish we had
more time because I like, I honestly we could be
talking for hours and unfortunately we've come to the end
of it, and I wish that, you know, we had
more and more and more time. But you'll certainly be back.
I want you back in this platform. I want you
telling me more stories. One thing that Boston should know
(33:25):
is that they are really they make a point to
their name incredible. They're incredible women, inc I n K, incredible,
business professional, proactive, they are so good at what they do.
I can't tell you. I've seen it everywhere, I've done it.
I've been in the industry for a long time, and
(33:46):
I am very, very grateful for you treating us the
way you did. You were very professional. I love the
fact that you guys are a family owned business, that
a mom and a daughter are working together, because I
relate to my daughter and she was inspired from it
so much that she's like, mom, like, can you imagine
if you and I could have a business.
Speaker 5 (34:05):
Oh.
Speaker 3 (34:05):
So, it's amazing to have people come and visit you.
Where can they find you.
Speaker 5 (34:13):
We're in North Andover, located at three point fifty Winthrop Avenue.
Speaker 4 (34:18):
It's a little plaza.
Speaker 5 (34:19):
We're located right next to the TJ Max inside that plaza,
inside of Salon Vergados. We're a special little quiet suite
inside of the Salon.
Speaker 3 (34:26):
What's phone number Instagram.
Speaker 5 (34:29):
Phone number is nine seven eight three nine six zero
zero eight six. My Instagram ISV body Art. That's E
V body Art. And then Christiana my EASTA grant is
Christiana in Joe, Christiana underscore and Joe on this score.
How do you spell Christiana c R I s T
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I eight and eight underscore eight in jail. Yes, and
we also have a shop Instagram. It's just incredible body art.
That's where both of us have our tattoos all put
together for and we'll have.
Speaker 3 (35:05):
It on our description and we'll have it on our
social media as well. So thank you ladies very much
for my guests. Again, this is your home. Anytime we
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Speaker 3 (00:24):
I'm really excited to showcase today two wonderful women that
are an inspiration because they're a mom and a daughter,
a family business that we're bringing in today to share
some inspirational stories. And I am very, very much so
inspired myself because I saw them work on my daughter
(00:45):
and I saw them work on me, and they are
into bodyyard and piercings and all these cool stuff that
sometimes we as Hispanics and as multicultural backgrounds, we tend
to be against. But nowadays it's art. It's all a definition,
is a part of showing who you are. And with
(01:07):
a warm welcome, let's give the microphone to Chris and
her daughter, Evelyn. Evelyn welcome, Thank you. I am so excited.
Can I tell how we met?
Speaker 4 (01:23):
Sure?
Speaker 3 (01:24):
Yes, So my daughter was looking for a piercing and
she has one that she one time she got it
on her nose and we were in Seattle as a
matter of fact, and when she got the piercing, she
she's always been afraid of needles, and I knew that
there was going to be some kind of like shocking experience,
and indeed she passed out and she entered into a
(01:45):
ce shirt and then she was happy because she had
a hole in her nose, which I could not understand right,
But after seeing everybody at her school and after knowing
what the trends are, it was very very cool to
see that it's a part of an expression that she
wanted to have in her body. And then I got,
you know, over it. What is it like for you
(02:08):
guys to start a business as a family, And Christy's
question goes for you like, how is a mom? And
you know, as a beautiful woman as you are, because
if you see her, you're going to see her in
our social media too. She's gorgeous, both of them. What
got you into this expression? Bodyyard and makeup and permanent makeup,
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you know type of thing.
Speaker 4 (02:30):
Yeah, it's it's a long story, but everything start with
like supporting in amazing people who cross my life. So
started my career as anstitutian is skin care. Actually it
was a nail technician when I just moved to here.
My first work was a nail technician and I work
on the Big Spine Brookline and was my first job
(02:54):
here as assistant. And she hired me to be assistant
that big spot. They have bum sage facials and nails,
and she said, why you don't have a license so
you can do other supports on the floor. And I
was desperate for work. I was so sure, and I
met her and she supported me to go to the school,
(03:18):
like let's take the nails because she sawry I was
doing nails for friends and family and that's how I
started build up this kind of career. And she's like,
if you go into the school and you take your license,
I will put it. I'm going to start helping you
to build up your clientele. You can build up your career.
So I always love it'statics, but not never have the
(03:40):
experience to work with So I didn't study for that that.
Speaker 3 (03:43):
I mean, like, how long ago was that?
Speaker 4 (03:45):
That was like sixteen seventeen years?
Speaker 3 (03:48):
I mean, what were you twenty?
Speaker 4 (03:50):
Like? No, looked so young. I was early on all
my early tuties.
Speaker 3 (03:55):
Okay, and you come from my twenties.
Speaker 4 (03:57):
I we are originally from Brazil, South Brazil, Okina. Yes,
I'm born in Christian Santa Catarina Evelyn tous So.
Speaker 5 (04:09):
She's yeah, born and raised in Brazil. I came here
when I was four years old, So I'm more American
than i am Brazilian, but my roots are pretty strong too.
Speaker 3 (04:18):
Do you speak Portuguese too, Yes?
Speaker 5 (04:19):
I speak Portuguese.
Speaker 4 (04:24):
Me and Venina bing Vina, yeah, bing Venavina, I can.
Speaker 3 (04:30):
Be Portuguese too.
Speaker 4 (04:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (04:32):
How is it to work with your mom? Like now
that she started her business, she you know you you
decided to do this, and how do you incorporate yourself
into this world?
Speaker 5 (04:43):
So I I think I started out just by like
when it was like COVID year I was graduating high school,
I had time off. It was like hybrid. I would
spend my days like online classes, going to work with her,
just to get out of the house and not be
stuck all the time time. And I just always had
a passion for like ear piercings and like expressing myself
(05:06):
through piercings.
Speaker 3 (05:07):
Like you said, your daughter likes to express herself.
Speaker 5 (05:10):
And she was like, you know, you should consider like
studying this or just like watching me, And like I
would occasionally watch like a procedure or two that she
did just the basic stuff, and I would help out
at the front desk sometimes just like me, like helping
people pick out their jewelry or like learning about the
different procedures that you could do. And then eventually, when
she opened up her own business, she kind of came
(05:31):
forth and was like, is this something that would interest
you while you finish your studies at school and whatnot?
And I was like, I mean, it seems like a lot,
and it's a little intimidating, but I think it would
be pretty cool to, you know, learn to express myself
and help other people express themselves too in a different way.
So then she signed me up to get my apprenticeship
(05:52):
and we started working together and she taught me all
the things that I needed to know from what I
had already learned over the years of going to work
with her and learning things at the other studios that
she worked at. And then eventually she signed off on
my license and I've been working with her ever since.
Speaker 3 (06:07):
Amazing.
Speaker 4 (06:08):
So old are you?
Speaker 3 (06:09):
I'm twenty one years old, twenty one and you already
have your own business along with your mom. Yeah, that
is fantastic. Were you scared of blood and like, you know,
like to see people crying because you can see a
lot of the damaging that you're doing to their faces.
It's a damage, but at the same time, it's you know,
it turns into a beautiful piece. So that is the process, right.
Speaker 5 (06:33):
I don't think I was ever really scared of blood.
But there's actually a funny story. One of the first
piercings I ever did was on my mom, and it
was a low piercing and it's supposed to be something
that isn't super crazy and doesn't cause a lot of blood.
But I totally missed the transfer between the jewelry and
the needle, and the jewelry didn't go all the way through,
and all of a sudden, she was bleeding and I
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was like freaking out and I was like, Mom, I
killed you.
Speaker 4 (06:58):
What's going on? I was like, I can't do this anymore.
Speaker 5 (07:02):
But she ended up she was just like laughed it off,
and she was like taking pictures of herself.
Speaker 4 (07:06):
She's like, look what Evelyn did to me.
Speaker 5 (07:07):
And I was like, why are you not traumatized because
I'm traumatized, and she's like, Evelyn, this is gonna happen,
Like you might miss the needle, you might miss the
mark like it's okay, like you need to just like relax.
And I think just like watching her like always be calm,
like because she was always afraid of needles and blood
like that, are you really? She definitely was the type
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to be scared of that.
Speaker 3 (07:30):
Sly.
Speaker 4 (07:30):
I never picture myself doing that, working on the spot
like so singing in classic calm music and to the
needles and like a body art. So that's how I
never picture myself. But the transition to the spot to
the body art. So how you ask, like how that happened?
So I want to like bring the tattoo eyebrows my
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eye service. And I realized it was completely different fields
you as a setitian, you know, it's like stay and
like a body health. So and I went to the classes.
I took my classes with amazing artists. She teached me everything,
but I was stacked, like I can't perform. So what
I have to do back in the days was different
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than now. In the days, they have specific classes. You
go straight to the classes. They have like a protocol
to follow up if you want to be a body
art or a permanent makeup artist. Back in the days,
I don't have options. So I went to the town
and they say you have to be a prince at
tattoo shop. And I have my certificate, I have my
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classes and I can perform.
Speaker 3 (08:37):
You went from working on a spot to attack to parloa.
Speaker 4 (08:41):
So when I'm gonna go, so I search you around.
It doesn't have much options back in the day. But
my tattoo artists back in the days. He was about
to open. He was just opening the studio, and I
contact him because I have many tattoos from here. My
husband has tattoos from him. He was our do you
know we have a hairdressing or mini carry. I have
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my tattoo guy and I call him like, I know
you just opened the studio. Maybe it's not just the time,
but this is my situation. Now. I took a classes
and now I need one year apprenticeship. I would like
to know if you can open the door for me
and have me like at least one time once a
week to be able to perform my clients under the
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law and build up my apprenticeship has to be one year.
I ended up. He said, of course sure. His wife
was also an institutian, so it was like my goal
was like getting my one year apprenticeship and I ended
up working almost over three years, so.
Speaker 3 (09:45):
You ended up loving and loving. That changed everything for you,
everything for me, so.
Speaker 4 (09:50):
From the static to the body art and I met
amazing artists, amazing techniques. I will made your.
Speaker 3 (10:01):
Difference that you saw between one business and another one huge, yes,
huge different.
Speaker 4 (10:08):
Like I still have like some.
Speaker 3 (10:16):
A preconceptor conception because.
Speaker 4 (10:19):
I was a permanent makeup artist who work in the
tattoo shop. Like back in the days, they they think
like a tattoo. No, I wanted like a Michael bleeding.
I don't want a tattoo on my eyebrows. When they
see me inside the studio, I thought I will tattoo
the eyebrows. They have to have like a huge conversation
with the clients to trust on me as esthetician and
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now I'm not going to perform a regular tattoo in
your eyebrows.
Speaker 3 (10:46):
The idea a different process.
Speaker 4 (10:48):
It's a differ process. Now they have apprenticeship with like
academy just for permanent makeup, so like a five seven
years ago, they don't have here. It was one here
and one they're involved.
Speaker 3 (11:00):
So now about in Brazil, because this is something that
happens to me and being from Mexico, and I used
to do things the Mexican white Obviously in the country, licenses, permits,
it's completely different. It's a different ballgame here. You come
and then if you don't have a license, a certificate,
the board of health, there's a lot that comes for legalities.
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What was the most difficult part for you, besides the
business side, but also culturally? How did you adapt from
Brazil and living there to come into the United States
and doing and opening your business.
Speaker 4 (11:35):
So I came from completely different business. I was not
as a teachan in Brazil. I graduated college as international
business and I always dream about take care business, strive
for the world, be a trader and business woman, not
as aesthetic.
Speaker 3 (11:52):
I have that business background, but not in.
Speaker 4 (11:55):
The nine year So what brings me to that industry?
Here was my background As a teenager, I was doing
my friends nails on the neighborhood to make a little
five dollars five reels extra on the weekends. I never
picture myself to doing this is a new career, I'd
say when it was in Brazil and it was in school.
(12:15):
I want to be business. I work as a financial
I work as a Cosmo service. I work with so
many bookkeeper like all those things, not the spot no performance.
Speaker 3 (12:28):
Do you remember that of your mom? Oh no, no,
I were too young for that, right.
Speaker 5 (12:32):
I remember like when when we were here. I remember
when she was like doing her mobile SPA services, like
going everywhere with her, and like, yes, I'd be like
her little assistant. I'd get all like the foot tubs
ready and like the nail polishes, and I'd prep the
clients who needed to go and get their services.
Speaker 4 (12:50):
Done no time like now and we get like I
don't have a license yet, but I did, like my friends,
and like it was kind of my part time. I
don't even know, like you need the license because it
was the first few months here you were lost. You
You are like I need work. I can come into
another country and I came here to work. You don't
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choose what to do.
Speaker 3 (13:12):
And I love that you're mentioning that because I'm going
to give a big shout out to my friend Julia. Julia,
she's a city councilor for Boston and one of the
things that she has accomplished and I don't know if
you know that, Nicole, but she is amazing because understands
the detail of like having a business and starting off.
(13:34):
Sometimes you start at home. So she has now passed
different laws that you are able to start your business
at home and you don't need to put all these
investments up front of like renting a space and having
you know, all these other extra utility expenses. That it's
hard at the beginning as it is. And never mind,
you know when you have to operate from a different
(13:56):
place that is not your home. So that was my quotation.
Mark right here is like it's really important for us
to speak up and to share the experience with our
city councilors because they can do a big difference. They
can make a difference when it comes for the future
of our children. So now you're not probably gonna deal
with that because things have changed. So you remember your
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mom doing all of these things for her friends. You're
the assistant and now you're running around, but you have
other children. Dina's not the only one I.
Speaker 4 (14:26):
Do have, but now she's ten years old. Back in
the days was just evling. I've was the only for
til years. Yeah, I get these little kids, she says.
She helped me to holding I get a supplies on
like CVS and stores like for nails, and I don't
even know, like you have a professional When you have
a professional license, you can get a professional product with
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much better quality. And a friend of mine I used
to live in the condo and she leaves next door
and she's like, Chris, you're doing very well on the nails.
Everybod it doesn't nails. You should start build up your clientele.
Then I built up this little case to do on
the weekends while I was working as a babysitter, I
(15:11):
was working at clean the house away, working Mondays to
Thursday and Friday, I have a little helper, like it
was always a different job, and Saturday it was just nails,
nails and nails.
Speaker 3 (15:22):
So, Chris, were you speaking English back then? No?
Speaker 4 (15:25):
No, And like when that opportunity for the Brookline place
came was like around five months. I was here and
a friend who was cleaned the house with me. Her
name is Lana. It's part of my story and we
are the helpers. It's like, Chris, I went to the
church this weekend and I saw on the wall and
(15:47):
they looking for a nail technician. You should go there.
It's inspiring. Brookline in Brookline it's a good location. We
clean houses in Brooklyn Line being in Boston every day,
and she's like, you know, it's a good location. You
gonna maybe get a real job. I was like it insane,
Like I don't speak any English. Who is going to
(16:07):
hire someone from Brazil who just came here no license?
And I can't. And she's like, I don't think. I
just think you should go. I just think you should go.
Speaker 3 (16:17):
And she is like so she was, so she is
that really saw the beauty and you of like.
Speaker 4 (16:25):
The you should go, should go this opportunity. You know
you have to clean house the rest of your life,
like you should go. It should go.
Speaker 3 (16:31):
We all need one of those friends in our lives,
don't you think?
Speaker 4 (16:35):
That's what I call the beginning of the interval. This
kind of person came to my life, and that is
few people came and transformed my whole life, and Londa
was one because she was the one who brings me
the news and I went to the I called and
she said, I think she speaks Portuguese because it was
in Portuguese the notes in the church and she's going
to the Portuguese community church. I said, okay, I will
(16:59):
give a try. I call and say you speak Portuguese,
and she said Portuguese, Portuguese. Seeing my name is Christiana.
Her name is Levina. She's one big friend from my
family now in the days, and she will be always
on my heart because that's how we start my story
(17:19):
with her and make me very emotional because that's how
everything changed my life. And she she's amazing well. I
learn a lot with her. I hate her many days, but.
Speaker 3 (17:32):
She changes me.
Speaker 4 (17:33):
She pushed me and she showed me how to be
brave because she's gonna hire me. I don't have any license.
I have to find something to do. It's a big spa.
I clean laundry, I vote the laundry. I do everything
to support other institutions and new technicians. But she pushed
me to go to school to be better and make
more money.
Speaker 3 (17:52):
And I feel, Evelina, when you see your mom this
emotional and you see what she had to go through.
Speaker 5 (17:59):
I'm very grateful because I know that all of that
work is going to translate into my good success in
future as well.
Speaker 3 (18:07):
I'm emotion all now. I'm like, yeah, my tears are
coming out.
Speaker 4 (18:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (18:11):
It's a lot of hard work and I I it
like I never really thought about it, but now, like
you know, wrapping up school and getting ready to graduate
and get my big girl job and all these things.
Like just actually appreciating the hustle that my parents have
gone through was like, damn they they really went pretty far.
(18:31):
And I'm so grateful for it because I know, like
like she said, like if she never went and got that,
you know, never went for that opportunity to like paint nails,
like she could be cleaning houses. Still she maybe she
would have never learned English. Maybe we would be in
a completely different situation.
Speaker 3 (18:47):
It's a comfort zone and nothing, but is it very
hard work?
Speaker 4 (18:52):
Oh I remember my hands was peeling off, like and
she'll getting used to the produce is a lot of
chemical exposure. You make a good money. I can't tell
you it's a good money cleaned the house, but it's lot.
Speaker 3 (19:05):
But the cost is high too. It is because your
body pays.
Speaker 4 (19:08):
For it pays for and like the injury from back
and like holding the p and this, Mamdi is like
my body took like a while to get used to
and we use gloves and everything. But still and I
came from this opportunities and she book appointments and said, no,
come in here, let's do an interview. I was like,
really driving, I was comfortable to driving to Boston and
(19:32):
went there. She said, okay, we're gonna do my nails today.
She is Brazilian and she was like, let's do my nails.
Speaker 3 (19:39):
Let's see how you work.
Speaker 1 (19:40):
Oh.
Speaker 4 (19:40):
I have many instories about how I did her nails.
But of course she choose red polish. Yes, to make
sure I know how to do that.
Speaker 3 (19:49):
We all have here our red.
Speaker 4 (19:51):
We know how hard it is to painting the red
because the pigment if you touched the skin just doesn't Yeah. Yeah, okay,
And I did her nails and she's like, you're doing
fair well, like I really like you. And what days
you can work? I was like, what days I can work? Yeah? Yeah,
so if you're available, you can start next week. And
(20:13):
I remember back in the days. She's like, I pay
you by hourly and once you get your license, I
will be able to book clients for you. And she
showed me what's going to be my work. But she
said keeping practicing and go to the school as soon
as you can, and I start. I was still clean
(20:34):
the house Monday to Thursday and I went to the
SPA Fridays and Saturdays all day and that's how I
went to the school and I took my license. I
was the institution. I built up the career and I
still want to do the eyebrows. She's like, well, I
don't think I bro should be good like keeping on
the aesthetics and I really want to go to the
(20:55):
school for eyebrows. But like I work for her for
over eight years, like back and forth, because I gave
a break. I went to school and I working on
other places in between. But in the mid we have
some issues, like I had like a relationship relationship, but
I'm so grateful for everything I learned with her and
(21:17):
would be forever like that. And I back on I
went to the school for eyebrows. I remember I wasn't
work with her. I was working close home because I moved.
That's when I moved over and I was like looking
for a place to be apprenticeship and my my friend
just opened the studio and I worked there for over
(21:39):
three years and I still was doing.
Speaker 3 (21:42):
Insteadic as a tattoo parlor.
Speaker 4 (21:44):
That was a big tattoo part. He opened the first
studio in Denvers. I think it was twenty eighteen or nineteen,
and it was brand new, and that's when I went
there to do my apprenticeship. Yeah, my apprenticeship was already knew.
Speaker 3 (22:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (22:01):
Yeah, I was there and I learned a lot, a lot.
But the thing about transition to piercing, it's very funny
because he always opened mind and he say, I really
like you, and like, when I don't have clients, I
was always looking for something to do. I was at
your hands and take something new, and I was not
supposed that was not part of my job. But if
(22:23):
the phone is ring right here, I took the phone
and like, I can I help you. It's not my job,
but oh okay, the artistism is available.
Speaker 3 (22:31):
When a book appointment, I was like, I learned that process.
Speaker 4 (22:34):
I learned the process, and I think that's how you learn.
But I feel like some people lose the opportunity because
hear my job. They don't pay me to do that.
I'm not gonna do that, but I know some people
like that part of your evolution, the way you will. Yeah,
it's part of that. It's not just like take your paycheck.
(22:57):
I could take clients. No, it's part to take a trash.
Speaker 3 (22:59):
Clean and is the phone with all these that you're
telling me. All the process, you're always taking the initiative
to look for another opportunity, which opportunity yes, for your sake,
You're always saying, like I already have a no, let
me look for the yes. Right, Like, so don't I
already don't know it. But if I try it, I'm
(23:20):
going to learn and I'm gonna have like new outcomes
because you cannot repeat the same thing and expect a
different result. Right. But in this case, one of the
things that called my attention and being in the aesthetics world,
the government is very linient when it comes to permits
and licenses and certifications. What can you tell the audience
(23:41):
in Boston in Massachusetts, we need to understand that when
you show up to a place and you want some
work done, you have to really look into who's doing
that service for you. Because it's your life, is your health,
is your face, is your body that you are getting
altered and you need to know where you going. And
I'm saying this because one of the moments that really
(24:05):
opened my eyes and it's a shame on me because
I know better. When my daughter brought me to you guys,
she was very animate. She told me she probably did
tell me. I don't remember because I'm crazy busy and
I didn't pay attention. But she told me to bring
her passport, her ID or whatever, like just to prove
that I'm the mom and she's my daughter, and like
(24:26):
we went there for her piercing. But when we got there, Chris,
you were very serious like, and I admired that it
really got me upset. I was so mad because I
had driven all the way to andover, which was not
that bad. It was seventeen minutes I drove over there,
and I thought that I was gonna have like everything
done boom bim batabuom, my daughter passing out, moving on
(24:49):
because she's very like scared two needles. So I knew
the process in my head that it was going to
be fast. And when I get there, you say like, well,
I'm sorry, I cannot take care of your daughter. Yeah,
And I was like, she is really working my nurse today.
I don't need it because I'm moving, I'm in boxes.
Where am I gonna find this bird certificate?
Speaker 4 (25:09):
That was my thing?
Speaker 3 (25:10):
It was not just getting it. I know I have it,
but for those who are listening, I am so happy
you did that, because that's the right way of doing it.
Tell me why you denied me so and we.
Speaker 4 (25:25):
Are very happy to hear that. I remember when you say, crazy,
I don't have the bird certificated. I have to go
back home. And you left, and I tell Evely so
she knows we could, especially saturdays because you have a
lot of families coming to the studio on Saturdays, and say,
I think we have like a said mom, so we
can't perform. And I was about to leave because I
(25:47):
think I was blocked after two or something. I was
about to leave because we thought it was in the
back room with me. And I say, if they come back,
I don't know if they still come back, but I
don't think if they're gonna find it. She say, I
think they will be back in one because I think
you'll send a message, and said she looked like really
sad because she can.
Speaker 3 (26:06):
I can't. I was outside. I was wicked, mad, mad, okay, okay,
we have a mad mom.
Speaker 4 (26:13):
And having said no, I think they will come back.
But why we do that? So we take very serious.
So and we know my whole life how hard it
is to be officially licensed to perform a specific service
and body art is way more because you deal with
what a health, you deal with blood. We open your
(26:34):
skin and it's very responsibility. That's how we call procedure.
It's not just all just put a piercing. And yes
we have a meaning made who has to leave, but
we we try like a different ways to remind her
them and everything, but they still happen and we try.
Why we do that, We do that to protect you
(26:57):
because any wanted very well. Any one can walk into
your child and say, oh, I'm the mom, so I
can sign. Everyone can sign, but how I will know
if you really are the mom? So technically, officially the
birth certificate is the only paperwork shows your name as
a mom. My passport doesn't show your name as a mom,
so id either. So sometimes the kids has an idea
(27:20):
around sixteen seventeen years old, but your name is not there.
They look alike, Yes, I look alike of my nephew's too.
If I walk into my name, y, you're right, looks
like my daughter, they will look alike. But it's to
protect you. And yes we have some situations the kids.
The kids try just signed for the parents, no sign
(27:42):
for the parents, but say Oh, my mom can do
by the phone. My mom can do a FaceTime and
say yes, Nope, no they can't.
Speaker 3 (27:50):
That's the way why I came back because when I
was driving, I was just like coming back to my senses,
like breathing and exhaling and like you know, like yo
got and my daughter was so upset. She was crying.
She's like, momm I really wanted my persons. She was
really really say that she was sad. So I started
(28:12):
thinking and I said, you know what, she is absolutely right,
and if you're going to do anything to your body,
I will certainly turn around and come back to Chris
and Evelina and do it there because I know that
you care. You care for your business, you care for
the well being of my child, you care for the
well being of myself also, and you're doing the things right.
(28:33):
So again, coming to the area where you see that
there are some people that are performing surgery is at home,
that they are doing things that are completely illegal, and
then you see them. I have a friend, I mean, like,
tell you this story. This is really scary. She lives
in Miami. That's my daughter's friend. She got a botox
(28:54):
injection like to augmentation but they injected some sort of
oil that was like industrial oil, nothing that the body
would absorb. They ended up like for an entire year.
She couldnot sit down. She had to be either laying
on her stomach, and they had to remove the entire
(29:14):
glued area because it was almost killing her, like she
went into a septic situation. She was dying. And she
was a very young mom of a one year old.
And I just do not understand, like in what like
that somebody is going to go and get injected whatever,
who knows what. So for that like particular reason, I
(29:39):
invited you guys to come here because I personally would
have never, which.
Speaker 4 (29:44):
Now I have a piercing you see this, I have
a piercing on.
Speaker 3 (29:47):
My know that I would have never in a million years.
Speaker 4 (29:51):
I know I didn't.
Speaker 3 (29:52):
I came for my daughter, but I felt so protected
and comfortable that I was like, if I'm ever gonna
do it, this is the place where I will do it.
So I want the audience to understand in Boston, please
open your minds to what the consequences are, especially you, Evelina,
you're young. What would you tell people that are your
(30:13):
age that are looking for that quick fix? Of like
I want to look like my friend and I need
the piercing on my eyebrow, or I want these tattoo
and they don't even know if the needles are you know,
glean or like.
Speaker 5 (30:24):
Yes, yes, yeah, it's actually I've seen it a lot
on like TikTok and Instagram reels people my age and
technically a little younger still, like teenagers in high school.
They'll buy like piercing kids on Amazon or like Sheene,
and they'll do it themselves at home.
Speaker 3 (30:40):
Oh my goodness, I didn't even know that.
Speaker 5 (30:42):
Right, And like, you know, by all means, I can't
stop you. You're in the freedom of your own home.
But a lot of those people end up coming to
us asking for help when they're piercing doesn't go right,
and they're like, I have a big bump, I have
a keyloid, it's infected, Like what do I do? I'm
freaking out? And then you assess, you assess your client,
and it's how old are you? When did you pierce this,
(31:02):
what did you pierce it with? And it's like most
clients are not in the right headspace, they're not the
right age. That's why there's certain laws limitations from Massachusetts, like,
you're not. You can't do certain body piercings unless you're
fourteen years old. So like facial piercings or anything that's
you know, cartilage or eyebrow lip piercing, you have to
(31:22):
be at least fourteen. But even us, like us too,
we try to recommend being at least sixteen because then
you have that mental maturity to be able to take
care of your piercing, to be able to understand what
that piercing is going to do for your expression of yourself,
but also how you look. And then if you decide
you don't want the piercing anymore, the scar tissue that
(31:43):
it can leave behind.
Speaker 4 (31:43):
And things like that.
Speaker 3 (31:46):
So people don't even think of that.
Speaker 4 (31:48):
They don't.
Speaker 5 (31:49):
They don't. They want that quick fix. That's why they
buy the piercing kits. That's why they try to come
in and get something done. Oh, that's why they call in.
They're like, well, why does my daughter who's thirteen years
old and her friends all have belly button piercings. Why
can't you pierce her belly button? I'm like, well, her
friends probably went somewhere where it's legal to do it,
or they did it somewhere where they did it under
(32:09):
the table and they don't care.
Speaker 1 (32:11):
We care.
Speaker 5 (32:12):
We don't want to obviously infringe upon our business, but
we know that, you know, everyone's growing and changing and
learning things at certain rates. And it's just it's so
much more than just like a piece of metal in
your skin. It's about taking care of it. It's about
learning how to you know, combat the piercing bumps that
(32:34):
come with it and the scar tissue that comes with it.
And then if you decide you don't want it anymore, like,
how are you going to take care of it afterwards?
Because as we like we say, it's a procedure. It's
not just a piercing, it's a whole procedure. You know,
we set up we have to be sterile, we have
to you know, we've got biohazard boxes in there.
Speaker 4 (32:53):
We auto clay our stuff.
Speaker 5 (32:55):
Yeah, like this it's some pretty it's not just like
you don't just yeah, people.
Speaker 4 (33:00):
Don't they get serious.
Speaker 3 (33:02):
And let me tell you something. I wish we had
more time because I like, I honestly we could be
talking for hours and unfortunately we've come to the end
of it, and I wish that, you know, we had
more and more and more time. But you'll certainly be back.
I want you back in this platform. I want you
telling me more stories. One thing that Boston should know
(33:25):
is that they are really they make a point to
their name incredible. They're incredible women, inc I n K, incredible,
business professional, proactive, they are so good at what they do.
I can't tell you. I've seen it everywhere, I've done it.
I've been in the industry for a long time, and
(33:46):
I am very, very grateful for you treating us the
way you did. You were very professional. I love the
fact that you guys are a family owned business, that
a mom and a daughter are working together, because I
relate to my daughter and she was inspired from it
so much that she's like, mom, like, can you imagine
if you and I could have a business.
Speaker 5 (34:05):
Oh.
Speaker 3 (34:05):
So, it's amazing to have people come and visit you.
Where can they find you.
Speaker 5 (34:13):
We're in North Andover, located at three point fifty Winthrop Avenue.
Speaker 4 (34:18):
It's a little plaza.
Speaker 5 (34:19):
We're located right next to the TJ Max inside that plaza,
inside of Salon Vergados. We're a special little quiet suite
inside of the Salon.
Speaker 3 (34:26):
What's phone number Instagram.
Speaker 5 (34:29):
Phone number is nine seven eight three nine six zero
zero eight six. My Instagram ISV body Art. That's E
V body Art. And then Christiana my EASTA grant is
Christiana in Joe, Christiana underscore and Joe on this score.
How do you spell Christiana c R I s T
(34:50):
I eight and eight underscore eight in jail. Yes, and
we also have a shop Instagram. It's just incredible body art.
That's where both of us have our tattoos all put
together for and we'll have.
Speaker 3 (35:05):
It on our description and we'll have it on our
social media as well. So thank you ladies very much
for my guests. Again, this is your home. Anytime we
want you back and telling us more stories Boston Yellow,
Snaky and Rumban and Tolas Historia's new stories about entrepreneurs,
(35:27):
business owners, health, wellness, you name it. So we want
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We have a very new.
Speaker 3 (35:36):
Preset what is it called the preset section on the
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(35:57):
for your every day Thank you again and no vemos
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