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Speaker 1 (00:07):
Buenosi as Boston, and I am so excited and thrilled
today because this is not a regular Sunday. This is
a Sunday very special to me because I have a
guest that you guys are going to stay in awe.
He is just wonderful, wonderful as a person, as a
human being. But if you pick his brain, if you
understand everything that he's involved with, if you know what
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his mind can create and how far, and it goes
as far as like vision, He's a visionary for sure.
And he is just very into mentoring and trying to
impact the world in a larger scale. And when I
say larger scale, I am not talking about making millions
of dollars and just trying to have stories in every
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single corner. Actually is just about a giving opportunity to others,
teaching the way to become what you want to become.
And I could be here talking the whole podcast about
just how much I admire him personally, but I think
that it's very important to me that you guys get
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to know him, get to know where he comes from
and all what Dmitri, I need this, I said it
that I said corrective. I am this is all about
Miquei amigo, Shall I respond in English? He agreed, Dmitri?
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Tell me who is Dmitri?
Speaker 2 (01:42):
Well, thank you very much, Gabby. This is a great honor.
Speaker 3 (01:45):
I appreciate the fact that you invited me here. But
let me start from maybe the small scale stuff, right,
not the big scale stuff that you kind of mentioned.
Dmitri is someone who was born in Greece in a
very small village. I grew up with my grandparents. We
had five goats. The village was located in a place
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which is magnificent, overlooking Mount Olympus, where the ancient Greek
gods lived. So I grew up with all that kind
of fantasy world, mythology and things like that, looking at
the mountain and expecting to see the gods.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
Maybe come down. That's amazing. But it's a very very
small village Wei.
Speaker 3 (02:23):
There were about one hundred people maybe, And you know
that's my background. And at the age of twelve, my
parents came and we came to the United States, and
there begins my makeover or makeup or however you want
to define it. But it was a transformation, obviously, from
a very very small village type of a setting to
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a big city in Boston, where I didn't speak English,
where I didn't know anyone, where I had no friends,
just my cousins.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
So it must be challenging, right when you are in
that environment, when you come from a country that speaks
a different language, you come here year. How was that
moment for you? Were you sad that you had left
behind everything that you knew at that moment?
Speaker 3 (03:07):
Of course, yeah, I mean, you know you, First of all,
I left my grandparents, I left the surroundings that I
grew up, the things that I was used to. And
now you come to a place that you don't understand anything. Really,
you don't know people, you don't know anything, you know,
you kind of begin to rethink of the world as
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a young boy, I, of course, I had to learn
a lot of different things and it was difficult. It
was very difficult because you know, I had to go
to regular school very quickly and attend classes.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
In a language that you had no you I mean,
like you were not familiar with, right.
Speaker 3 (03:46):
I started to learn ABCD. Wow, that's how you know?
My English was extremely limited. But you know, of course
I had my parents, and especially my mom who kept saying, no,
you gotta go and get an educate. You know, you
don't want to be like us. You know, my parents
had a bakery in Rosslyndale for many, many years.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
Shout out to Rosie.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
Very Good Bakery.
Speaker 3 (04:10):
I grew up in a bakery basically baking bread, knowing
how to bake bread, and that was my sort of background, right,
So I worked very hard. I went to Washington Irving
Middle School, which is still there, and then West Roxbury
High School. So I graduated from a public school system
that probably lacks a lot of the essentials for students
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to really, you know, go to the better colleges and
kind of compete with students that have an intense high
school background.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
But you know, I was lucky enough.
Speaker 3 (04:46):
Mayor Menino at the time, or maybe even before him,
we had the Boston University Academic Scholarship, the Boston Scholar
scholar program, which was a four year academic scholarship. So
I was lucky enough to get that. So my parents
didn't have to pay for my university education.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
So you know, I ended up.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
So you really are a Boston kid that grew up
here and learned the Boston life. What is the main
difference that you can see or that you remember from
Greece to coming to Boston that you would say, like,
I miss that so much.
Speaker 3 (05:21):
Well, you know, you kind of go back, and you
know you always want to perhaps at one point in time,
return back to your roots, and that is a constant battle, right.
I always was considering, you know, I should go back
and work in Greece and kind of continue my life
there because I had these memories as a young boy.
And then many many years later, when I went back,
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I realized that I didn't belong there anymore, because you
kind of get used to the system here, you get
to a life here. The people, the kids I knew
at the time, had already different lives.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
I didn't know them.
Speaker 3 (05:55):
I didn't understand them very much. We had gone so much,
you know, different directions, so there's a separation and there's
a gap.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
And many many years later you can't catch up that easily.
Speaker 3 (06:06):
So I recall that the first trip I took to
Grease years later, I was maybe first year.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
Of law school.
Speaker 3 (06:15):
And when I came back and the plane was landing
at the airport here, I said, this is home, and.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
You felt you were back to the place where you
really belong. And I can tell that you are very
much so in love with Boston because you have been
doing a lot to help the community, not only on
the student side, but also you know, as part of
the ecosystem and what happens to you when you're going
to school. And then you make the decision of going
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into law because people you have to know, as he hinted,
when you need an attorney, you want Dmitri on your
side because he has never lost a case ever. Ever,
I've never met an attorney that has that career. And
not only that, you have to just understand them the
mission that he has every time that we work together,
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that we have a plan, even if it's just having dinner,
is going to be done the right way. And I
love that. I really really appreciate that. What makes you
just decide, Okay, I'm going to defend people for a living.
Speaker 3 (07:16):
Well, you know, my parents obviously did not have the
means or they didn't have the ability to kind of
guide me through the process of what I wanted to
do in my life. And that's you know, at that
age when you're trying to kind of figure out what
you want, you know, it's very difficult to get you know,
the necessary information and to kind of think. I mean,
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I was not the kind of a person that always said,
oh I want to be a lawyer. I was not
that type of a person. I did economics and political science.
You know, I'm a thinker. I'd like to think, I'd
like to analyze, I'd like to kind of see the
world in a more global kind of a perspective. So
economics and political science was not good enough for me.
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So it wasn't like, Okay, what do I do masters? No,
you know, And then I don't know how the decision
came out, but I said maybe law school. And I
had no idea, absolutely no idea. I said, maybe I
want to be a lawyer. But at that point in time,
I was also thinking of becoming a professional musician, right,
because I play music and I enjoy playing music. I said,
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I do want to be a musician. That lifestyle is exciting, Right,
But then I kind.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
Of very pot him in.
Speaker 3 (08:31):
Long hair, Yeah, John Travolta, look at the time.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
Yeah, And what happens once you get into law and
you start to see that you really could create some
difference when it comes to your cases, Right, how my
intriguing question would be, like what happens in your brain
when you see a case, because I know personally, I
understand where you're going. You're always looking at the outside
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picture and you go far beyond where the problem is.
But when you are analyzing that case or I tell
you like I want you to be my attorney, I am,
you know, founding a new business and I want it
to be global. Where is your head there? As an attorney?
Do you want to protect the person, the company? What
makes it interesting to you to take a case?
Speaker 2 (09:20):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (09:20):
So the way I kind of think about all the
clients that I have is, you know, when a client
comes with a problem or an issue, I want to
be part like a family.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
I want to.
Speaker 3 (09:30):
Create that type of a close relationship where I understand
the client. I know a lot about my client because
not every client is the same. Everyone is different even
though they may have similar cases. You know, people react differently.
So I spend a lot of time getting to know
my clients and I understand their mentality to some degree.
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I understand what their wishes are, what they want to accomplish,
what they don't want to do, which is very important.
So you know, when a client comes, I want to
spend more time getting to know the client than actually saying, oh,
I've got thirty minutes, let me go through the facts
of the case and kind of tell you what you
think you know, what I think you should do. You
need to get to know the client because that's the
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most important individual at that point in time. Sure, so
for me, I become very very intensely involved in the
life of the case, if I can call that the
life of the case, because that's a different perspective of course.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
And when you choose your clients or actually, let me
back up a little bit, how did you decide or
what may happen the fact that you are focusing in
international business or what is exactly your focus?
Speaker 3 (10:46):
Yeah, so I do litigation, complex litigation cases, and I
also do a lot of international work. And that's probably
because right after law school I was you know, I
got to meet that Greek comes general here in Boston
at the time, and I had a nice discussion with him.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
He liked me. I liked him.
Speaker 3 (11:05):
He was a very very open minded individual. He didn't
really care that I had very little experience as a
young attorney, and I became the lawyer of the Greek
consulate and very soon thereafter he would call me, he
would refer clients to me. They would have issues all
over the world. And then I began to kind of
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think about all these cases, and I began to get
involved in these cases, and you know, of course, I
did a lot of amazing things representing multi billion dollar companies,
going to different places, negotiating very complex contracts, you know,
kind of learning about different systems around the world, and
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having that kind of a mentality that you know, yeah,
US law, Massachusetts law is very specific. But I don't
want to just function in that environment. So the global perspective,
if I have gotten through the years, kind of helps me.
I think understand some of my clients a little better.
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I'm not very focused on, you know, just a particular
kind of a client. I like all sorts of things,
and I like a mix of things.
Speaker 1 (12:17):
And if I were to be deciding a career, so
let's say, like I've always thought that I could be
a good attorney because I fight my ways in I'll
be like, it's never too late, Yeah, it's never too late. No, No,
that's why have you So why would you ask somebody
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that tells you, Okay, Dmitri, I want to go into
law school. What would be that question that could really
help either back away or continue or pursue that career
in law, Like, what would.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
Define it for me?
Speaker 3 (12:51):
There's a danger when somebody comes to me and says
I'm thinking or considering to go to law school, chances
are convinced them to go. So I'm one of the
few lawyers that actually believes that a law school career
is a good one. And I am a very very
very good advocate about students going to law school because
you know, for me, a law school education is incredible
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in the sense of the diversity and the options that
you know, students have.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
You know, if you become a.
Speaker 3 (13:18):
Lawyer, you can work for a pharmaceutical company, you can
be in house, you can work for the government, you
can do criminal cases, you can do civil cases. There's
so much out there. So a law degree gives you
flexibility number one.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
Right.
Speaker 3 (13:31):
So the next thing that I think about is I
you know, and this is something I tell law students
when I lecture in law schools. You know, I tell them,
you know a lot of people say to me and
ask me who are the good lawyers in Boston? And
my response is the ones that are not lazy. So
I always always look, you know, I look for students
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that have a good work ethic, people that have that ability,
you know, and if they make it to through college
and they have good grades and you know they've got
what it. You know, they've got the interest and the
excitement and the zealous sort of skills. I think law
school is amazing because nothing probably is better than a
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law school career because of the flexibility and how.
Speaker 1 (14:18):
Do you go from being in this type of environment
on law courts, litigation to innovation because I have to
make a big emphasis on what you've been able to
accomplish and people. So you have a little background on
how Dmitri comes into my life. I met Dmitri because
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a friend of mine refirm it to you, when I
was thinking about investing in an airline, remember, and we
hit it off and we just started talking about like
all these things that I wanted to do with this
airline and e planes, electric planes, and we just went
on and on, and we had that conversation about innovation.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
Let's not bring in attorney client privileged stuff, right. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (15:01):
So so from there he shares that nowadays you can
actually build a home out of mushrooms. I was like,
get out of here, that's not true. And then he's
telling me the story right, and once we go into
like building houses in mushrooms, very humbly, he says, oh, well,
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NASA is involved and we're trying to build homes in mars.
I was like, what the heck, what's happening here? Like
I went from talking about Attorney's plans now about talking
about NASA. How do you go from Greece to Boston
to Africa and being in Nigeria and involving such a
great project like this.
Speaker 3 (15:42):
You know, I think the only way things happen to
us is through other people. You know, things don't happen
to us, you know, because you know, we get something
from God. You know, we meet a lot of good
people along the way, and you know, those are the
people that actually give us perhaps some hints of what
may you know, be something that we like. So that's
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what happened to me. I have a very good friend
of mine. His name is Andreas Mrsian. He is a
brilliant scientist at MIT and we met some kind of
a conference and we have very similar backgrounds because he's
you know, his father is Russian his mother is Greek
and I am the opposite. So my mom is Russian
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and my father is Greek. So we were like the opposite.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
That's funny.
Speaker 3 (16:28):
We kind of connected and then you know, I would
sort of, you know, get to interact with him on
some occasions. And then a lot of friends of mine,
lawyers would come from Europe to Boston and they would say, oh.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
Can you take me so I can see a jury trial?
Speaker 3 (16:43):
And I would say, well, I don't know that's exciting,
but let me see if I can take you to
the MIT Lab. So I would take a lot of
these foreign lawyers, people that you know, would be in
Boston visiting, and I would call Andreas. He would say, Okay,
come over and he would give me a tour of
the lab that he was involved in, and each and
every time I was even more fascinated by some of
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the stuff that was happening there. And eventually, you know,
I began to work a lot closely with Andreas, and
then we got involved into this project, which is you know,
a NASA research project that I might got involved and
then we took it to Namibia in Africa, and it's
a fascinating project. You know, the stuff that I learned,
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even though I'm not a scientist, just amazing, amazing stuff.
And I find that I'm very inspired by innovation. I'm
inspired by innovators, people that are developing new things. And
then I look at my profession, which tends to be
a little boring. So I ask a lot of lawyers,
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you know, are you bored?
Speaker 2 (17:49):
Are you boring?
Speaker 1 (17:50):
And then they said, they show you all the thousand
piles of papers, and They're like, what do you mean bored?
Speaker 3 (17:55):
Right, So I found a lot of inspiration and innovation
by doing these.
Speaker 2 (18:00):
Kind of things.
Speaker 3 (18:01):
I'm working with Andreas on many different projects. He invited
me to go to Namibia. I went to Ambia. I
saw what was happening there. I really liked it. And
then you know, I met a few other people out
of my tea and we began to kind of interact,
and you know, the idea was, Okay, you know, we
have a very very good system of educating students, right,
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so we have beautiful law schools, we have great programs,
engineering schools, whatever. So when I go to give a
lecture either to you know, a law school or some
kind of another place, I asked the question to the students.
Do you know if it's law school, do you know
where the engineering school of your school is?
Speaker 2 (18:44):
And they kind of look at me and say, no,
why would I right?
Speaker 3 (18:48):
But you know, Boston University has a law school, which
is great, and then the engineering school is right across.
But there's no connection, there's no interaction. So I asked him,
do you know what they're working on?
Speaker 2 (19:00):
No? Do you know any professors?
Speaker 3 (19:03):
No?
Speaker 2 (19:03):
Do you know any students there?
Speaker 3 (19:04):
No. So we have these beautiful buildings, very good educational
systems that are in silos and they're not connected.
Speaker 2 (19:12):
And when it comes to innovation, we got to change that.
Speaker 3 (19:14):
So we've got to create a truly interdisciplinary approach to
teaching because these things now with chat, Gipt and all
the stuff that's coming out now, are we're going to
force us to change. And then, you know, the big
question I ask is what should come first, legislation or innovation,
because you know, when it comes to innovation, look at
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US AI. We haven't really legislated AI. The Europeans are
moving so fast in regulating AI and coming up with
all these regulations, and the US hasn't done it. China
is kind of doing it. But you know, we haven't
done it. So the question is what should come first?
And when I ask the scientists, they say, oh, we
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need regulation so we know where to innov And then
when I talk to lawyers, they said no, no, no, no,
let the marketplace kind of do ITAs thing.
Speaker 1 (20:06):
And then finally to different mentality, very different mentality. That's
so interesting. So you go into but you have that mentality,
the innovator's mentality. Right, So even though you're an attorney, right.
Speaker 3 (20:20):
So I'd like new ideas. I want to be able
to support inspiration. So how do you inspire people? Inspiration
doesn't just come. You have to give them something that
makes them excited and then they begin to think.
Speaker 1 (20:35):
So, what would you tell our audience right now? For example,
think about what an innovative way of using AI or
feeding AI?
Speaker 2 (20:45):
Maybe well let's talk about AI.
Speaker 3 (20:47):
So you know, Andreas and I have kind of worked
on you know, AI, have written articles on AI and
things like that.
Speaker 2 (20:54):
So if you kind of play around with the AI.
Speaker 3 (20:56):
At least with respect to photographs and pictures and images,
and you know, Andreas kind of did this and he
wrote the word was, you know, can you create an
image of you know, heaven and the AI gave us
an image that had beautiful you know, skies, you know,
warm weather and all that kind of a feeling, you know,
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beautiful green spaces, water running down, you know, beautiful, absolutely beautiful.
And then when he changed the phrase and said give
me an image of Hew, what we found out is
that the image was that of Earth.
Speaker 2 (21:35):
So basically what we see now is the AI is
an image a mirror of ourselves.
Speaker 3 (21:42):
So how do we deal with an image? It's like
looking in the mirror, looking at us. That's what we're
getting back from the AI. And if that's the kid,
that's because we don't want to look in the mirror sometimes.
Speaker 2 (21:55):
Right we do, but we don't.
Speaker 3 (21:58):
Then do we put some makeup on, or do we
cover ourselves or what do we do? So the question
for the audience is when you talk about generative AI
and AI, you know, the big question is how does
it reflect our social values? And how can we make
that sort of change so that the social values we
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have and that we build upon then float through the
AI and we get better images of our world because
right now we're not.
Speaker 1 (22:28):
And that's so important because when you go into that information,
you're just going to receive whatever we're putting in, So
you're actually just feeding from somebody's perspective rather than you know,
you were saying. At some point you go and ask
Google for a question and it gives you thousands of answers.
Whether when you go into Chad Gibt, is just going
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to give you the perspective of whatever someone put in there.
Speaker 3 (22:51):
Right, Well, it's a little more complex because of all
the stuff that Chad Jibt has access to.
Speaker 2 (22:58):
But one thing that you know.
Speaker 3 (23:00):
A lot of people are afraid of, you know, AI
and how it's going to take over. But this is
a question that has been asked for many, many years.
You know, there are books that have been written about
you know, all these rowboats that are coming and taking over,
and you know, I'm not afraid of any of that
stuff because I you know, we're not at a point
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yet where an AI has consciousness, right, So what is consciousness?
Speaker 2 (23:25):
You know, the ability to.
Speaker 3 (23:26):
Kind of think, the ability to kind of do things,
because it has the ability to create that consciousness. So
the AI today is basically I call it a super
duper calculator. It's able to kind of do all these
mathematical statistical analysis and give you the answer that is
more probable. The AI of today, what we have today
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cannot really ask questions.
Speaker 1 (23:50):
So you know, prompting is asking questions.
Speaker 3 (23:53):
Right, So you've got to be able to ask questions.
That requires a certain level of thinking.
Speaker 1 (23:59):
So the so you get the right answer that you're
looking for.
Speaker 2 (24:02):
Correct If you go to chat JBT and you say
ask me a question.
Speaker 1 (24:07):
About what, there's.
Speaker 2 (24:09):
Nothing, you're not going to really get anything.
Speaker 1 (24:13):
And this brings me to the next topic that is
very dear to my heart again, like I'm telling you,
like just this conversation is full of love and passion
when it comes to innovation and impacting our community, and
that's what's all about for me. Kip Pasa Bolston is
a platform that we can share information like the one
that you're bringing here and also make people aware of
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what they can't believe, what they can do. They can
get inspired. And Dmitri has inspired me so much that
just from one conversation him and I decided that we
needed to do something with the Latin American talent. And
I'm going to share an exclusive nobody knows you're going
to hear this here at Kip Basa and Dmitry, do
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you want to be the honor, make me the honor
of sharing what we're doing.
Speaker 3 (25:05):
Well, you are the president of the International Innovation Hub
of Boston.
Speaker 2 (25:10):
Right.
Speaker 3 (25:11):
This is a nonprofit we just formed and we have
some amazing individuals that are on the board. Right, and
you know, you can say some of these names if
you want.
Speaker 1 (25:22):
Right, of course, I'm going to share who is behind
all of this. So we have our CEO, David Ortiz.
Because we're starting a very big movement in the Dominican Republic.
We want to make sure that our Dominicans are being featured,
that talent is being found, and we want to bring
them to our ecosystem so they can start mentoring and
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finding ways of really making sure that that innovation is
going somewhere because they don't have the resources that we have.
So we figured out that this would be a great
bridge between both countries where we could just set up
footprint here in Boston and also in the Dominican Republic.
Have Janet Pagero, We have Hector Nandez, Hector Pina, and
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there is Conhart cost Us and you have to say.
Speaker 2 (26:07):
The last name from Costagues.
Speaker 1 (26:09):
Okay, again, what's his last name?
Speaker 2 (26:11):
I said it very quickly.
Speaker 1 (26:13):
Yeah, I can't pronounce it ever, and we have Evelissa Minjettis.
So that's the board of the founders of this amazing
innovation hub and we can wait to see where this
comes from, I mean, where this goes to and what
we are able to accomplish. So if you know of anybody,
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if you think of any type of connection innovation, we
want to hear from you. Use that talk back button
on our iHeart app because I want to hear from you.
I want to know what you're thinking about innovating. But
more so I want to make sure that you check
out what Dmitri has been doing in the in the
Commonwealth of Massachusetts. And really, how many lives you have
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touched Dmitri? Because every time that I talk to people
that know you, they have nothing to say. But he
has changed my life in one way or another one.
And I believe that if we are able to make
the things that we have in our plan, that's going
to change the world in a very different way. David
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Ortis wants to leave a legacy, so do I and
so do you and all the people that are involving this,
and I think this is it because we are going
to give and provide resources to somebody that probably in
a million years wouldn't even imagine that would be picked
to do something that they created. Right, And when we
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talk about innovation, why is so important to you to
have them come to us and learn from us here
in Boston.
Speaker 3 (27:51):
Well, you know, this is something that is consistent not
just in the Dominican Republic, but in a lot of
other places.
Speaker 2 (27:56):
I've seen it in Uganda, I've seen it in a Mebia.
I've seen it in Europe.
Speaker 3 (28:00):
You know, I judge the MIT Enterprise Forum of Central
East Europe of Greece, and you know, I see the
ecosystems in those countries and how you know, startups are
trying to really develop and grow, and it's not the
same as in the US. Right, So what we want
to do as part of this platform is to be
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able to provide a bridge, in a bridge between those
individuals and the companies that they have in the Dominican
Republic that maybe right that may have what it takes
for them to sort of be domesticated into the Boston
area and kind of create that transformation. Bring them here,
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see if we can give them some of the tools,
some of the resources that are here and kind of
build that type of an ecosystem. And then of course
the opposite is also applicable, and we.
Speaker 2 (28:53):
Want to do the same kind of a thing.
Speaker 3 (28:55):
We want to provide some opportunities in the dr that
could be available to know, people in the Commonwealth or
you know, throughout the US, And that is a model
that you know, for me, is important around the world
because I've been to places where I was so fascinated
by some of the startups. I was in Uganda, for example,
and I went to a lab for innovation, and there
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were about twenty startups and I spoke to each one
of them, and I could see that they had a
clever idea. They I'd liked some of the stuff that
I was hearing from them. I could see, you know,
the young, inspired people wanting to do things.
Speaker 2 (29:30):
But I also.
Speaker 3 (29:31):
Realized that the possibility of them being able to get
out of there possible. Yeah, it was, It's nearly impossible.
There was one company I saw that had a little
stick that could be used as a computer.
Speaker 2 (29:46):
It was less than one hundred dollars.
Speaker 3 (29:48):
You could plug it into a monitor and you could
work it as a computer. Lit little stick, and I
said does it work. Yeah, they showed me how it works.
And I'm like, you know, if you were in Boston,
you probably would have been able to find some you know,
people that could help you build a company. But who
is going to go to places like Namibia, you know,
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Uganda or And.
Speaker 1 (30:10):
That's why we want people to go and visit ii
hob i hub dot org, i i hob dot org.
Visit the website, check out what we are all about. Dmitri.
It's been fascinating. I wish I had twenty million hours
just to talk to you, because you know that I
can just talk to you for hours. This has been
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such a pleasure and such a learning experience for our audience.
We want you to come back and share what happens
after you launch this amazing or we launch this amazing organization,
and we want to hear more about what your projects
are and what you're doing with the world of innovation
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as much as as in i T Namibia, the Dominican Republic, Greece, wherever.
Thank you very much for being.
Speaker 2 (31:01):
Here, Thank you for the invitation. Thank you Gabby.
Speaker 1 (31:04):
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to innovate their lives.
Speaker 2 (31:24):
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