April 22, 2025 • 36 mins
The U.S. Supreme Court heard oral arguments today in the case (Mahmoud v. Taylor) of Maryland parents suing the Montgomery County Public Schools over being able to opt students out of curriculum with objectionable content on religious grounds, such as LGBTQ-themed books and discussions.
Then, A.J. Rice, CEO of Publius PR and author of The White Privilege Album: Bringing Racial Harmony to Very Fine People…on Both Sides joins Ryan to discuss his new book and the Left struggling to navigate the issue of deporting illegal aliens, which has proven to be overwhelmingly popular with Americans.
Then, A.J. Rice, CEO of Publius PR and author of The White Privilege Album: Bringing Racial Harmony to Very Fine People…on Both Sides joins Ryan to discuss his new book and the Left struggling to navigate the issue of deporting illegal aliens, which has proven to be overwhelmingly popular with Americans.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Is not necessarily what the books say, but rather is
that are the books just there and no more? Or
are they actually being taught out of the books?
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Now we know that the teachers are required to use
the books. When the books were first introduced in August
of twenty twenty two, the board suggest that they've used
five times before the end of the year.
Speaker 3 (00:23):
That's in the that's a two seventy three.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
A in the short appendix. One of the schools, the
Sherwood School, in June for Pride Months, said that they
were going to read one book each day to celebrate
Pride Month. The board's own testimony through Superintendent Hazel, said
that the books must be used as part of the
instruction and that at six forty two in the appendix
that discussion will ensue. That was the entire point of
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withdrawing the opt outs and removing even notifying parents are
not even allowed to know.
Speaker 4 (00:53):
The board said in.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
That statement it was so that every student would be
taught from the inclusivity story books. And also the District
Court transcript at sixty three has counsel's admission that some
of the books have to be used and it can
be more.
Speaker 4 (01:06):
The basic fundamental question.
Speaker 3 (01:07):
That was Justice Clarence Thomas, who you heard, and Attorney
Eric Baxter arguing on behalf of the parents who petitioned
and this made it all the way to the Supreme Court.
Mood the tailor here on Ryan Schuling Live. We've been
talking about this throughout the first hour and whether or
not these books that contain LGBTQ plus themes violates religious
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beliefs and therefore the First Amendment right to freely exercise
their religion to remove their students from such a classroom,
and where the fight for curriculum begins and ends. Who
has control and input over those decisions. Is it entirely
at the purview of the schools and the teachers or
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should the parents be involved and linked into that process
and have a voice. I mean, that is really the
crux of this entire argument, and it does tales really
into what is happening here in Colorado as well that
we've talked about for so many weeks on this program.
Joining us now, he's an attorney Illumine Legal, Brad Bergford.
(02:11):
He's joined us before along with Aaron Lee, and he
joined us now on Ryan Schuling Live.
Speaker 5 (02:16):
Brad, Welcome, good afternoon, mister Schuling, is great talking to you.
And by the way, our law firm is illumine.
Speaker 3 (02:23):
Legal alumin like illuminate, Yes, exactly, That's what you guys
are trying to do with a lot of this is
shine a light. It's the best disinfectant of what is
happening in some of these schools. And I'm not sure
how closely you've been able to follow these arguments that
were presented at the Supreme Court today, But what really
struck me was how much they just expected the parents
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either wouldn't know, wouldn't find out, wouldn't ask about, wouldn't
react to, and that they would just fall in line
with whatever it was deemed necessary and appropriate for students
to be taught based on the sole discretion of the teachers.
How do you see this, Brad, this level of importance, well.
Speaker 5 (03:03):
This case. First of all, I did not listen to
oral argument today, so I don't count myself an expert
in this particular case. But I do have a fairly
solid understanding of what's going on nationwide and what parents
need to understand and what I think is evident from
the perspective that you just articulated and that we've seen
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so many times, is that it's correct schools expect parents
to fall in line. In fact, what they really expect
is that parents won't pay any attention in the first place.
And frankly, a lot of parents haven't paid attention, and
so the schools aren't aren't all that wrong about how
parents will respond. And I think one thing that a
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lot of parents believe is that the schools will let
them know. You know, a lot of us grew up
in a day when the schools would send out, you know,
kind of permission slips for their students to participate in
sex ed and a lot of us regard these teachings
that they're talking about, the transgender related teachings, as that
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in that vein, and so they probably have an expectation
that they'll hear something before the teaching happens. But that's
just not the case. In fact, schools are engaged in
the Lee case, which I've been litigating and miss so
many others, in a campaign to keep parents in the
dark about what's really happening. And when you're keeping secrets
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about what you're doing with little children, usually that raises
red flags, and it does and should.
Speaker 3 (04:42):
In this case, as I'm paying attention to it, Brad,
could have a ripple effect throughout the United States, including
right here in Colorado. Because as I am charting exactly
what is happening in Maryland, and this is where the
case originates, Montgomery County Public schools. There, they're talking about
what's happening in the classroom, curriculum that may or may
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not be taught, whether or not a parent has a
right to object. And as you pointed out, there were
permission slips in the past, and if you didn't want
your child in the classroom for a given topic, you
could remove the child from the class. But then the
school system found that that was problematic, that there were
too many requests, requirements, and that this is going to
be really an obstacle to a learning environment. I get
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some of that, but where it has proceeded to here
in Colorado, what we have witnessed, Brad, is that it
extends beyond the classroom. We've seen Aaron Lee's case with
the so called art club that was anything bought and
a child was indoctrinate in an after school program. Now
we have this House Bill twenty five thirteen twelve that says,
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if we have a trusted adult in the school system
that is safe to tell. And a child comes to
us and expresses gender dysphoria or we I identify as
the opposite gender. The parent is not even included involved
in that conversation. And if this bill were to pass
and become law, they couldn't even object to that, ask
questions about it, or suggest alternative treatment to it. So
(06:08):
I almost look at it as what we're dealing with
here in Colorado is kind of death con one that
highest level from what we're witnessing going on to the
Supreme Court for what's happening in Maryland.
Speaker 5 (06:18):
What do you say, Well, it absolutely is. This has
been going on for a long time in Colorado. The
first big waves of this effort and the Colorado legislature
hit in twenty thirteen. They were renewed in twenty about
seventeen or eighteen or nineteen right in there, but in
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Colorado there's a law that says the sex ed teachings
can be opted out of the problem that happens in
Colorado is that the schools have infused the transgender teachings
into every aspect of school, and they say, well, it's
not sex, it's not human sexuality. Therefore it's not a
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controversial topic. And there's another statute that says, if you're
talking about the history and kind of cultural contributions of
the lgbt q I A t US plus plus community,
you have to you have to teach that stuff, and
it's it's being taught kind of in the the civics
or history way, and in fact is required. So this
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stuff is entering the school from every every door and window,
and it's hitting your kids NonStop. If you if you
think that your child can go through public schools in
the state of Colorado for five minutes and not be
asked their their pronouns or told something about gender identity
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that may or may not be correct, you're you're mistaken.
Speaker 3 (07:50):
Unfortunately, Brad Bergford, our guests illumin legal and he is
involved in a lot of the cases that you're hearing about,
including now legislation that is in the General Assembly. I'm
glad you hit on that key topic because i think
what concerns me goes along the lines of what.
Speaker 4 (08:06):
Aaron Lee had to face with their own daughter.
Speaker 3 (08:08):
Which is the misdirection, the deception of what this actually is. Oh,
it's an art club, It's not an art club, and
why did you lie about it? Why was I just
lied to by you about what this was? If what
you're trying to introduce to my daughter is such a
great thing. And then there was Justice Kintanji Brown Jackson.
I wanted you to hear this because it goes along
the lines of what you're saying history civics is maybe
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LGBTQ authored books.
Speaker 4 (08:32):
K bj kind of leads.
Speaker 3 (08:35):
Alan Schoenfeld, he's the attorney for Montgomery County Public Schools.
Here on lgbt books being part of English curriculum.
Speaker 6 (08:43):
Mister Schoenfeld, what is that purpose?
Speaker 3 (08:45):
I mean?
Speaker 6 (08:45):
I thought the answer to Justice Kavanaugh's question was that
the school board was explicit that the books were to
be used only to supplement the English Language Arts curriculum
as reading instruction, and not to teach about gender or sexuality.
Speaker 3 (08:58):
So it wasn't as though.
Speaker 6 (08:59):
The book were being introduced for the purpose of enhancing
the gender and sexuality a proponent and therefore people can
opt out of that whole thing. It was that we're
talking about English here, and in addition to the other
kinds of picture books we have on the shelf and
we talk about in class, we're going to introduce these
books as well. I think that seems pretty infeasible in
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English when you're talking about reading instruction, that every time
this particular kind of book comes out, we have to
start letting people leave the classroom.
Speaker 4 (09:31):
I agree with you.
Speaker 3 (09:32):
And here's what we know, Brad, based on the case
on going at Elizabeth Public schools south of US here,
is that there's a honeycombing process of this objectionable LGBTQ
content within. Like you said, this cloak and dagger type
mission of English, and so now it's part of literature
and therefore it's not inherently sexual. But like I said,
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we're seeing this play out in Elizabeth as Kintanji Brown Jackson,
the justice scene. Some of the content in these books,
the words in these books that we've seen and read,
they're in elementary school libraries.
Speaker 5 (10:08):
They are in pre kindergarten libraries. With respect.
Speaker 7 (10:13):
This is.
Speaker 5 (10:16):
This is as sinister as it gets. And what you're
saying about these books is nowhere near, nowhere near as
dark as some of this material is. There is material
in our public schools. And understand not just the books
that are on the shelves, but the books and the
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material that's available through ebsco host where students have log
in credentials and parents have log in credentials, and there's
what the parents can log into and see is not
the same as what the children can log into and see.
The children, in many instances have access to explicit content,
including pornography and graphic descriptions of acts which would make
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Sailor's blush. The schools are are engaged in an all
out effort to sexualize our children, to tell them things
that are simply not true. And we have to, as
parents and as members of the of the Colorado community,
we have to step up and say, you know what,
this doesn't match our community standards because the kids are
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being being confused. And you know, you know the story
of Aaron Lee and and the the other litigants in
the case, but there are real world effects that it
has on a child. The telling a child that she
is not a girl or he is not a boy
has on these children, or even that they might not be.
And then and then to tell children that you know,
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you're more likely to kill yourself because of this. And
then of course those of us who who raise an
objection and say, well, maybe not the healthiest, healthiest thing
to tell a child. Well, then everyone's told that we're
the cause that more children are who identify this way
are killing themselves. Maybe we should stop telling children to
identify this way.
Speaker 3 (12:13):
Brad Bergford illumin legal joining us here part of this
fight in Colorado and keeping a careful eye on how
this case before the Supreme Court involving the Montgomery County
Schools in Maryland shapes up. And this is justice Amy
Coney Barrett trying to pin Schoenfell, the attorney for the school,
pin him down on questionable books. Are they part of
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the curriculum or are they just sitting there on the shelf.
This was kind of part of the whole discussion over
about two and a half hours of oral argument before Scotis.
Speaker 7 (12:43):
There's been some question about the record and whether these
were just books on the shelf or whether they were
actually used in the classroom. How could it be that
the opt out policy became unmanageable if they weren't part
of the instruction, Because if they were just on the
shelf and the parents sought an injunction saying we don't
want to be taught, then presumably that's no big deal.
You'd say, okay, fine, you're not going to be taught.
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There's nothing to opt out of because they're just on
the shelf.
Speaker 8 (13:07):
Surely there were certainly classrooms when in There were certainly
classrooms where the books were read out loud, where they
were pulled off the shelf by a student and the
student read it with a peer or many peers. They
were used in the classroom the way that any book
is read in the third or second grad So that.
Speaker 7 (13:21):
Is in the record that they were used in the classroom.
And it is in the record that the teachers had
this discussion material in the intersection allies. You know, the
discussion guide is actually part.
Speaker 4 (13:32):
Of the book.
Speaker 7 (13:33):
You know, the explanations about gender and all of that
sort of thing are not even part of the separate
instructional materials, but part of the book itself. All of
that is in the record, right absolutely.
Speaker 3 (13:43):
And so that's a concession that, yes, these were used
as part of the curriculum and not even being shy
about it or avoiding it, that this would not only
be presented to children, but that there was a motivation
behind it. And this is where I'm going with that, Brad,
that the teachers have a specific ideal, logical point of
view that they're looking to advance and to instill in
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the children themselves. And even a Chief Justice Roberts was
having a problem with that, and that saying that a
five year old can discern you know what a teacher's
presenting is the teacher's own viewpoint, opinion, or rather, this
is something I need to learn. I need to take
as fact at face value. We can't expect five year
olds to be able to make that kind of a
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discernment like we would maybe a fifteen year old.
Speaker 5 (14:27):
Well, excuse me, we absolutely can't expect that. And the
easy way to think about this is that if instead
of LGBTQ issues, the books were saying, young people, you
need to be Democrats or you need to be Republicans,
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we would all readily recognize the problems with such indoctrination.
But there's somehow this aura around the trend issue, especially
but these issues more generally that says, well, whatever you do,
the worst thing in the world is to criticize these ideologies.
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And they pretend as though these ideologies or something other
than ideologies, like their reality. There's there they can be
farther from reality. The Declaration of Independence says we hold
these truths to be self evident, and then it goes
on to say that all the things that we're familiar with,
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it is, there's nothing more self evident than that a
boy is a boy or a girl is a girl.
And no matter what that child thinks, it is an
ideological assault to tell that child that he's that something
other than reality is going on inside of him. So, yes,
that's that. That's one problem. And additionally, I've looked at
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the Maryland public schools scores and re being in English
and so on in math, and they're really they're not
teaching these things that we know. They are teaching transgenderism.
I'm not sure they're teaching math.
Speaker 2 (16:11):
But this.
Speaker 5 (16:15):
Notion that this is just part of what they do
to teach English is facetious at best.
Speaker 4 (16:22):
Brad.
Speaker 3 (16:23):
My final question for you, appreciate your time, especially on
this busy day, is about it being a religion that
the absence of religion, atheism and antipathy toward religion can
be in and of itself for the secular class, that
is their religion, and this is what they're professing, and
they're basically turning the school into their own church. So
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to speak about this type of ideology you mentioned it.
If you taught kids to believe you're a Republican, your democrat,
or if we taught them you're Muslim, you're Christian. Unless
it's a private school, that's different. But in a public school,
they have free reign over these ideologies because they don't
fit neatly into a class of religion. Even if this
is a system of beliefs and a dogma unto itself, well, the.
Speaker 5 (17:09):
Fact that there's nothing to nothing falsifiable to support what
they're doing proves that it's a religion they've just chosen.
These academics and others have chosen to believe this, and
it's a destructive a belief system as there ever has been,
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especially on children who are likely to more likely to
commit suicide for one thing, But they're also if they
follow the progression of these beliefs to their logical conclusion,
they're going to end up carved up and beyond that,
most of them by the time their adults will walk
away from the belief system. Anyway, there's only so long
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you can live that a sane person can live with
the cognitive dissonance that's required to be in a male
body and tell yourself that you're a female.
Speaker 3 (18:06):
Once again, we thank Brad Bergford for his time. It's
illumin legal. I'll get it right one of these times, Brad.
Appreciate your time and everything that you're doing on the
legal front on behalf of parents in Colorado, and we'll
talk to you again soon downline thing all right again,
illumin legal say it with me, illumin legal spelled I
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L l U M I N E. And that's Brad
Bergford joining us here on Ryan Schuling Live a time out.
We have reconnected with aj Rice much anticipated.
Speaker 4 (18:36):
We'll have his book to give away.
Speaker 3 (18:38):
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Speaker 9 (20:25):
You're when you're looking at the media and you're listening
to them, and you listen to some of Hollywood, some
of academia here in the United States. They want all criminals,
whether they've come here the first time and deported second time,
have been deported, they want them all brought back. They
want they see future voters. Some might say current voters,
and I mean, I think I think Ukli handle themselves,
(20:47):
you know, fantastic. You know, the left is is not
quite sure here in the United States what to do
with some of these populists, Latin leaders like in Argentina
and l Salvador. They're they're used to the types of
leaders like the Castro Boys, right by Hugo Chavez, like
Daniel Gagel Ortega, right like Va Morales, these up left
(21:09):
wing Marxists. They remind them of their romantic days when
they were in journalism school.
Speaker 4 (21:18):
And not only that.
Speaker 3 (21:19):
As I referenced earlier, Barbara Walters did the famous sit
down with Fidel Castro, and it was a rosy picture
she was painting, allowing him to advance his propaganda, you know,
free education.
Speaker 4 (21:29):
With the communist.
Speaker 3 (21:30):
Dictatorship in Cuba, why were people venturing through shark infested
waters on the door of a fifty seven Chevy to
come over to the shores of Miami.
Speaker 4 (21:39):
Then go watch the movie Scarface.
Speaker 3 (21:41):
It's fictionalized, but it's based on a true story of
what happened when Fidel Castro opened up his prisons and
sent all of them over here to Florida.
Speaker 4 (21:50):
AJ Rice is who you heard.
Speaker 3 (21:51):
He's the CEO, founder of Publici's pr He is also
the author of the White Privilege album bringing racial harmon
two very fine people on both sides. He joins us
now on Ryan Schuling Live. AJ Welcome, brother Ryan.
Speaker 9 (22:06):
Great to be here. You know, it's so funny. There
is a long history of the left, especially in academia
and the media being romantic basically romanced by different types
of dictators. I remember if Stone at the New York
Times once said about Stalin's Russia, I've seen the future
and it works. There were Hitler's on the cover of
(22:29):
Time magazine Man of the Year. One of the ones
that always gets lost in time is Mike Wallace sixty minutes,
father of Chris Wallace, formerly of Fox News and now
also formerly of the defunct CNN Plus, which none of
us watched. He sits down with Iatola Komani, this intellectual,
(22:52):
this Persian intellectual studying in the West. He's sitting there
with him in Paris. He's got a little he's got
to quit song. And they're talking about how, you know,
the Shaws corrupt in the Shah, this and the Shah
that you know, go sha yourself, And Mike Wallace, who's Jewish,
(23:16):
is being romanticized of the man that would then lead
the Iranian nineteen seventy nine revolution. Right, who today, ladies
and gentlemen, is telling all of you that a the
First Holocaust never happened, and b they want to bring
about the second one, and AJ.
Speaker 3 (23:34):
It's funny in recent years too, the types of individuals
that members of the left could be Democrats selected to office,
could be members of the mainstream media, could be Taylor Lorenz,
who herself is an insane person, but the likes of
Luigi Mangioni or kilmar Abraio Garcia, that they're elevating these
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types to advance their causes.
Speaker 4 (23:56):
What does that tell.
Speaker 9 (23:57):
Us, Well, I mean kind of things the Democrats, and
I mean Trump's not even president one hundred days yet,
and they are basically you're showing us who they are,
and we should believe them. You know, they're lifting their
skirt up and sometimes there's a man under there, and
some days there's a woman under there. But they're telling
us what their priorities are. And MANGEONI and the you
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know snow White and the seven anti Semites on Columbia
University campus. They love them. They love the planeloads full
of illegal aliens and Trendy and Aragua and MS thirteen
being turned around coming to a cul de sac near you.
They like sending men into Nancy Mace's bathroom. They love
the irs. I mean, this is who they are here.
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I mean, this is what they've doubled down on. And
then they've sent out you know, my girlfriend Jasmine Crockett
very upset about the tariffs disrupting her supply of eyelashes
coming in from China. And of course the leader of
the youth movement, Bernie Sanders going to Coachella eighty three
years old with the bartender. This is who they're telling
us they are. And this is why Bill Mark said
(25:08):
recently that you know, Democrat approval ratings at like twenty
three percent, and with independence it's at eleven percent. So
if you it's not incumbent upon conservatives or populace libertarians
to explain how we won, as if it was some
miraculous feat. Look at what you've done to yourself. So
(25:28):
Bill Clinton could not get elected dog catcher if he
ran tomorrow in the modern Democrat Party.
Speaker 3 (25:35):
Ag Rice is our guest. We'll get to his book
in just a moment, the White Privilege album. You can
find that on Amazon. But you've taken me right to
this SoundBite that I wanted you to hear. Aj I'm
not sure if you've heard it yet, but there seems
to be this division with the Democratic Party. Bill Maher
is part of it. On the left, I would say
Governor Gavin Newsom even he's getting it to a point like, hey,
(25:57):
we got to do something different here and pump the
brakes on where however, this train is going. And also
Rom Emmanuel, who is the former mayor of Chicago, former
chair of the DNC. He goes on this podcast with
Jennifer Welch and she absolutely lights him on fire.
Speaker 4 (26:13):
Get a load of this.
Speaker 3 (26:14):
So what have you had it with?
Speaker 9 (26:16):
I would say we have a series of topics that
I think sometimes consume in the other topics that don't
actually get the attention that they should get, and we
ended up fighting for the wrong things. We were really
south on kitch table issues. We're really good about the
family room issues. I disagree with you. I agree with you, Okay.
The only room we are the only room we do
really well, was the bathroom, and that's the smallest room
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in the house.
Speaker 3 (26:38):
Such book, that is a total book that is.
Speaker 10 (26:41):
Buying into the right wing media narrative. And I'm so
sick of Democrats like you selling out and saying this.
You know who talks about trans people more than anybody.
Maga Kamala Harris talked about home ownership, she talked about
kitchen table issues. Trump's over there droning on about Hannibal Lecter.
Are you kidding me? This is where the Democrats lose
(27:01):
because we're playing the game with the rule book. They've
writ the rulebook up in a kraminit down. Everybody's throats
are upset because Joe Biden pardoned his son. We kind
of fight. They're a gender obsessed weirdos, not us. We're
the ones who fight for social security, we fight for Medicare,
and yeah, we're not going to bully trans people. We're
not gonna do it.
Speaker 3 (27:24):
Fine, Wait a minute, a j who are the gender
obsessed weirdos?
Speaker 9 (27:27):
We are? That's right, that's right, Tommy.
Speaker 4 (27:32):
You know it's funny.
Speaker 9 (27:33):
When I was the executive producer of the Laura Ingram Show,
Laura and I used to joke about how Tommy had
too mommies. Now Tommy doesn't just have to mommy.
Speaker 5 (27:41):
Sometimes that mommy becomes.
Speaker 9 (27:42):
A daddy, and sometimes Tommy becomes Sally.
Speaker 3 (27:45):
And I gotta tell you, as much as.
Speaker 9 (27:47):
A little stubby finger raccoon face there rom Emmanuel. I
haven't always liked him, but I gotta be honest with you.
He comes from a family of very smart, shrewd men.
He's Jewish himself. He probably doesn't like the uh the
squad hunting his uh his tribesmen on college campuses. And
he gets it. He gets it. And there look, here's
(28:10):
the thing. At the left wants to understand why they're losing.
It's because they have gone hard at anyone that escapes
the intellectual plantation. One of the reasons Arkkid Junior and
Telcy Gabbard in particular, and now Elon Musk that they
are asker them is because they used to be Democrats
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and then they left because the Democrat Party has lost
its mind.
Speaker 3 (28:35):
Full disclosure.
Speaker 9 (28:36):
Arf Kid Junior and Tulsa are my clients at Puvis
PR and I will tell you this is why they're
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they have gone after Seth Moulton Congressman said, Hey, maybe
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I don't know the plumbers union in Pittsburgh. Then you know,
you know men and women's bathrooms. You know, maybe we
(28:58):
should maybe we should get back to our roots. This
is why they're after Fatterman for going to Morrow Lago. See,
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look here's the thing. For years, and I don't know
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you to listen to him. For years, they talked about
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Here's the thing. Both Tolsey Gabbard and Joe Rogan endorsed
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Ernie Sanders in twenty sixteen. So you lost Joe Rogan,
Naomi Wolf, RFK Junior, you lost Elon. So this is
really again, it's not about what did you people do.
You moved the gold posts of liberalism l liberalism, and
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you lost a giant swath of America in the process.
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I'm no doubt going to have many more conversations with
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This was hilarious stuff for sure.
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about Mike Wallace, the esteemed former lead host of sixty minutes,
sitting down with a very controversial world leader at a
time when the Shaw of Iran was being overthrown. And
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But the book is the white privileged album bringing racial
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As soon as those books come in, we'll get them
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(33:47):
way the Nuggets Clippers game last night and Steve, it
just didn't quite.
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Go our way.
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Well, you promised me forty points, Dak. He did not
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would have won.
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That was the number.
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That was the number. It was definitely needed. You know,
they just they kind of fell apart at the end there.
So what do you know, who's not going to fall
apart at the end. You at the end of the
Dan Kaplis show, So what are you coming on? Tap?
So We're going to kind of do a sheriff show today.
I want to talk to people about law enforcement in
the state of Colorado. Do they feel safer? Do they
not feel safer? You know, is their life better five
years from the past. And I'm gonna have several sheriffs
(34:24):
on to kind of share their experience of where the
law enforcement community has gone and what crime in Colorado
looks like.
Speaker 3 (34:29):
Well, that'll be interesting insight. Now you might not have
enough time to answer it right now, but maybe a teaser.
What is the craziest case you've ever had to investigate
and pursue?
Speaker 11 (34:39):
A homicide involving a person who was the stranger to
the victim, that they had no connection to one another,
and it was a brutal homicide. I mean, just talking
about it here, you know, gives me some thoughts about
the scene that day. But it was definitely the most
difficult case I've ever worked, but we worked it to assault.
Speaker 3 (35:00):
Glad to hear that and looking forward to more details
on these other stories from other sheriffs that you're talking
to as well, something I received terrible news last night,
my buddy Hutch down in Tampa, mutual friends of ours
lost a young man to fentanyl.
Speaker 4 (35:16):
Oh yeah, and he had been missing.
Speaker 3 (35:18):
For five days and not shown up for work for three.
And what I appreciated about the story that Hutch told
me was that sheriff's on scene, they go inside, they
see the young man obviously in that state of decomposition,
and they said, it's better.
Speaker 4 (35:32):
That you not see him this.
Speaker 3 (35:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 11 (35:33):
Yeah, you know, we're dealing with more and more of
those exposures every day.
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You know.
Speaker 11 (35:37):
Narcan is a common thing that we're deploying. Yeah, saving
people from themselves. And it's sad. I mean, you can
get these pills for his cheapest two bucks out on
the street and they'll take your life.
Speaker 4 (35:48):
Only takes one mistake and that's it.
Speaker 3 (35:50):
And sometimes like you're at a party and one young
person might give something to another young person and not
even know that it's laced with fentanyls. So Sheriff Steve
Reim's doing the good work and well bringing inother sheriffs
as well, should be a fascinating show to listen to.
Stay tuned for that coming up on the DAN Kaplis
Show straight ahead. That'll do it for me from here
for now. Thanks so much for tuning in. We'll talk
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to you again tomorrow. Right here, I'm Ryan Schuling Live
Is not necessarily what the books say, but rather is
that are the books just there and no more? Or
are they actually being taught out of the books?
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Now we know that the teachers are required to use
the books. When the books were first introduced in August
of twenty twenty two, the board suggest that they've used
five times before the end of the year.
Speaker 3 (00:23):
That's in the that's a two seventy three.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
A in the short appendix. One of the schools, the
Sherwood School, in June for Pride Months, said that they
were going to read one book each day to celebrate
Pride Month. The board's own testimony through Superintendent Hazel, said
that the books must be used as part of the
instruction and that at six forty two in the appendix
that discussion will ensue. That was the entire point of
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withdrawing the opt outs and removing even notifying parents are
not even allowed to know.
Speaker 4 (00:53):
The board said in.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
That statement it was so that every student would be
taught from the inclusivity story books. And also the District
Court transcript at sixty three has counsel's admission that some
of the books have to be used and it can
be more.
Speaker 4 (01:06):
The basic fundamental question.
Speaker 3 (01:07):
That was Justice Clarence Thomas, who you heard, and Attorney
Eric Baxter arguing on behalf of the parents who petitioned
and this made it all the way to the Supreme Court.
Mood the tailor here on Ryan Schuling Live. We've been
talking about this throughout the first hour and whether or
not these books that contain LGBTQ plus themes violates religious
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beliefs and therefore the First Amendment right to freely exercise
their religion to remove their students from such a classroom,
and where the fight for curriculum begins and ends. Who
has control and input over those decisions. Is it entirely
at the purview of the schools and the teachers or
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should the parents be involved and linked into that process
and have a voice. I mean, that is really the
crux of this entire argument, and it does tales really
into what is happening here in Colorado as well that
we've talked about for so many weeks on this program.
Joining us now, he's an attorney Illumine Legal, Brad Bergford.
(02:11):
He's joined us before along with Aaron Lee, and he
joined us now on Ryan Schuling Live.
Speaker 5 (02:16):
Brad, Welcome, good afternoon, mister Schuling, is great talking to you.
And by the way, our law firm is illumine.
Speaker 3 (02:23):
Legal alumin like illuminate, Yes, exactly, That's what you guys
are trying to do with a lot of this is
shine a light. It's the best disinfectant of what is
happening in some of these schools. And I'm not sure
how closely you've been able to follow these arguments that
were presented at the Supreme Court today, But what really
struck me was how much they just expected the parents
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either wouldn't know, wouldn't find out, wouldn't ask about, wouldn't
react to, and that they would just fall in line
with whatever it was deemed necessary and appropriate for students
to be taught based on the sole discretion of the teachers.
How do you see this, Brad, this level of importance, well.
Speaker 5 (03:03):
This case. First of all, I did not listen to
oral argument today, so I don't count myself an expert
in this particular case. But I do have a fairly
solid understanding of what's going on nationwide and what parents
need to understand and what I think is evident from
the perspective that you just articulated and that we've seen
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so many times, is that it's correct schools expect parents
to fall in line. In fact, what they really expect
is that parents won't pay any attention in the first place.
And frankly, a lot of parents haven't paid attention, and
so the schools aren't aren't all that wrong about how
parents will respond. And I think one thing that a
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lot of parents believe is that the schools will let
them know. You know, a lot of us grew up
in a day when the schools would send out, you know,
kind of permission slips for their students to participate in
sex ed and a lot of us regard these teachings
that they're talking about, the transgender related teachings, as that
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in that vein, and so they probably have an expectation
that they'll hear something before the teaching happens. But that's
just not the case. In fact, schools are engaged in
the Lee case, which I've been litigating and miss so
many others, in a campaign to keep parents in the
dark about what's really happening. And when you're keeping secrets
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about what you're doing with little children, usually that raises
red flags, and it does and should.
Speaker 3 (04:42):
In this case, as I'm paying attention to it, Brad,
could have a ripple effect throughout the United States, including
right here in Colorado. Because as I am charting exactly
what is happening in Maryland, and this is where the
case originates, Montgomery County Public schools. There, they're talking about
what's happening in the classroom, curriculum that may or may
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not be taught, whether or not a parent has a
right to object. And as you pointed out, there were
permission slips in the past, and if you didn't want
your child in the classroom for a given topic, you
could remove the child from the class. But then the
school system found that that was problematic, that there were
too many requests, requirements, and that this is going to
be really an obstacle to a learning environment. I get
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some of that, but where it has proceeded to here
in Colorado, what we have witnessed, Brad, is that it
extends beyond the classroom. We've seen Aaron Lee's case with
the so called art club that was anything bought and
a child was indoctrinate in an after school program. Now
we have this House Bill twenty five thirteen twelve that says,
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if we have a trusted adult in the school system
that is safe to tell. And a child comes to
us and expresses gender dysphoria or we I identify as
the opposite gender. The parent is not even included involved
in that conversation. And if this bill were to pass
and become law, they couldn't even object to that, ask
questions about it, or suggest alternative treatment to it. So
(06:08):
I almost look at it as what we're dealing with
here in Colorado is kind of death con one that
highest level from what we're witnessing going on to the
Supreme Court for what's happening in Maryland.
Speaker 5 (06:18):
What do you say, Well, it absolutely is. This has
been going on for a long time in Colorado. The
first big waves of this effort and the Colorado legislature
hit in twenty thirteen. They were renewed in twenty about
seventeen or eighteen or nineteen right in there, but in
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Colorado there's a law that says the sex ed teachings
can be opted out of the problem that happens in
Colorado is that the schools have infused the transgender teachings
into every aspect of school, and they say, well, it's
not sex, it's not human sexuality. Therefore it's not a
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controversial topic. And there's another statute that says, if you're
talking about the history and kind of cultural contributions of
the lgbt q I A t US plus plus community,
you have to you have to teach that stuff, and
it's it's being taught kind of in the the civics
or history way, and in fact is required. So this
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stuff is entering the school from every every door and window,
and it's hitting your kids NonStop. If you if you
think that your child can go through public schools in
the state of Colorado for five minutes and not be
asked their their pronouns or told something about gender identity
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that may or may not be correct, you're you're mistaken.
Speaker 3 (07:50):
Unfortunately, Brad Bergford, our guests illumin legal and he is
involved in a lot of the cases that you're hearing about,
including now legislation that is in the General Assembly. I'm
glad you hit on that key topic because i think
what concerns me goes along the lines of what.
Speaker 4 (08:06):
Aaron Lee had to face with their own daughter.
Speaker 3 (08:08):
Which is the misdirection, the deception of what this actually is. Oh,
it's an art club, It's not an art club, and
why did you lie about it? Why was I just
lied to by you about what this was? If what
you're trying to introduce to my daughter is such a
great thing. And then there was Justice Kintanji Brown Jackson.
I wanted you to hear this because it goes along
the lines of what you're saying history civics is maybe
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LGBTQ authored books.
Speaker 4 (08:32):
K bj kind of leads.
Speaker 3 (08:35):
Alan Schoenfeld, he's the attorney for Montgomery County Public Schools.
Here on lgbt books being part of English curriculum.
Speaker 6 (08:43):
Mister Schoenfeld, what is that purpose?
Speaker 3 (08:45):
I mean?
Speaker 6 (08:45):
I thought the answer to Justice Kavanaugh's question was that
the school board was explicit that the books were to
be used only to supplement the English Language Arts curriculum
as reading instruction, and not to teach about gender or sexuality.
Speaker 3 (08:58):
So it wasn't as though.
Speaker 6 (08:59):
The book were being introduced for the purpose of enhancing
the gender and sexuality a proponent and therefore people can
opt out of that whole thing. It was that we're
talking about English here, and in addition to the other
kinds of picture books we have on the shelf and
we talk about in class, we're going to introduce these
books as well. I think that seems pretty infeasible in
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English when you're talking about reading instruction, that every time
this particular kind of book comes out, we have to
start letting people leave the classroom.
Speaker 4 (09:31):
I agree with you.
Speaker 3 (09:32):
And here's what we know, Brad, based on the case
on going at Elizabeth Public schools south of US here,
is that there's a honeycombing process of this objectionable LGBTQ
content within. Like you said, this cloak and dagger type
mission of English, and so now it's part of literature
and therefore it's not inherently sexual. But like I said,
(09:54):
we're seeing this play out in Elizabeth as Kintanji Brown Jackson,
the justice scene. Some of the content in these books,
the words in these books that we've seen and read,
they're in elementary school libraries.
Speaker 5 (10:08):
They are in pre kindergarten libraries. With respect.
Speaker 7 (10:13):
This is.
Speaker 5 (10:16):
This is as sinister as it gets. And what you're
saying about these books is nowhere near, nowhere near as
dark as some of this material is. There is material
in our public schools. And understand not just the books
that are on the shelves, but the books and the
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material that's available through ebsco host where students have log
in credentials and parents have log in credentials, and there's
what the parents can log into and see is not
the same as what the children can log into and see.
The children, in many instances have access to explicit content,
including pornography and graphic descriptions of acts which would make
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Sailor's blush. The schools are are engaged in an all
out effort to sexualize our children, to tell them things
that are simply not true. And we have to, as
parents and as members of the of the Colorado community,
we have to step up and say, you know what,
this doesn't match our community standards because the kids are
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being being confused. And you know, you know the story
of Aaron Lee and and the the other litigants in
the case, but there are real world effects that it
has on a child. The telling a child that she
is not a girl or he is not a boy
has on these children, or even that they might not be.
And then and then to tell children that you know,
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you're more likely to kill yourself because of this. And
then of course those of us who who raise an
objection and say, well, maybe not the healthiest, healthiest thing
to tell a child. Well, then everyone's told that we're
the cause that more children are who identify this way
are killing themselves. Maybe we should stop telling children to
identify this way.
Speaker 3 (12:13):
Brad Bergford illumin legal joining us here part of this
fight in Colorado and keeping a careful eye on how
this case before the Supreme Court involving the Montgomery County
Schools in Maryland shapes up. And this is justice Amy
Coney Barrett trying to pin Schoenfell, the attorney for the school,
pin him down on questionable books. Are they part of
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the curriculum or are they just sitting there on the shelf.
This was kind of part of the whole discussion over
about two and a half hours of oral argument before Scotis.
Speaker 7 (12:43):
There's been some question about the record and whether these
were just books on the shelf or whether they were
actually used in the classroom. How could it be that
the opt out policy became unmanageable if they weren't part
of the instruction, Because if they were just on the
shelf and the parents sought an injunction saying we don't
want to be taught, then presumably that's no big deal.
You'd say, okay, fine, you're not going to be taught.
(13:04):
There's nothing to opt out of because they're just on
the shelf.
Speaker 8 (13:07):
Surely there were certainly classrooms when in There were certainly
classrooms where the books were read out loud, where they
were pulled off the shelf by a student and the
student read it with a peer or many peers. They
were used in the classroom the way that any book
is read in the third or second grad So that.
Speaker 7 (13:21):
Is in the record that they were used in the classroom.
And it is in the record that the teachers had
this discussion material in the intersection allies. You know, the
discussion guide is actually part.
Speaker 4 (13:32):
Of the book.
Speaker 7 (13:33):
You know, the explanations about gender and all of that
sort of thing are not even part of the separate
instructional materials, but part of the book itself. All of
that is in the record, right absolutely.
Speaker 3 (13:43):
And so that's a concession that, yes, these were used
as part of the curriculum and not even being shy
about it or avoiding it, that this would not only
be presented to children, but that there was a motivation
behind it. And this is where I'm going with that, Brad,
that the teachers have a specific ideal, logical point of
view that they're looking to advance and to instill in
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the children themselves. And even a Chief Justice Roberts was
having a problem with that, and that saying that a
five year old can discern you know what a teacher's
presenting is the teacher's own viewpoint, opinion, or rather, this
is something I need to learn. I need to take
as fact at face value. We can't expect five year
olds to be able to make that kind of a
(14:24):
discernment like we would maybe a fifteen year old.
Speaker 5 (14:27):
Well, excuse me, we absolutely can't expect that. And the
easy way to think about this is that if instead
of LGBTQ issues, the books were saying, young people, you
need to be Democrats or you need to be Republicans,
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we would all readily recognize the problems with such indoctrination.
But there's somehow this aura around the trend issue, especially
but these issues more generally that says, well, whatever you do,
the worst thing in the world is to criticize these ideologies.
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And they pretend as though these ideologies or something other
than ideologies, like their reality. There's there they can be
farther from reality. The Declaration of Independence says we hold
these truths to be self evident, and then it goes
on to say that all the things that we're familiar with,
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it is, there's nothing more self evident than that a
boy is a boy or a girl is a girl.
And no matter what that child thinks, it is an
ideological assault to tell that child that he's that something
other than reality is going on inside of him. So, yes,
that's that. That's one problem. And additionally, I've looked at
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the Maryland public schools scores and re being in English
and so on in math, and they're really they're not
teaching these things that we know. They are teaching transgenderism.
I'm not sure they're teaching math.
Speaker 2 (16:11):
But this.
Speaker 5 (16:15):
Notion that this is just part of what they do
to teach English is facetious at best.
Speaker 4 (16:22):
Brad.
Speaker 3 (16:23):
My final question for you, appreciate your time, especially on
this busy day, is about it being a religion that
the absence of religion, atheism and antipathy toward religion can
be in and of itself for the secular class, that
is their religion, and this is what they're professing, and
they're basically turning the school into their own church. So
(16:45):
to speak about this type of ideology you mentioned it.
If you taught kids to believe you're a Republican, your democrat,
or if we taught them you're Muslim, you're Christian. Unless
it's a private school, that's different. But in a public school,
they have free reign over these ideologies because they don't
fit neatly into a class of religion. Even if this
is a system of beliefs and a dogma unto itself, well, the.
Speaker 5 (17:09):
Fact that there's nothing to nothing falsifiable to support what
they're doing proves that it's a religion they've just chosen.
These academics and others have chosen to believe this, and
it's a destructive a belief system as there ever has been,
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especially on children who are likely to more likely to
commit suicide for one thing, But they're also if they
follow the progression of these beliefs to their logical conclusion,
they're going to end up carved up and beyond that,
most of them by the time their adults will walk
away from the belief system. Anyway, there's only so long
(17:53):
you can live that a sane person can live with
the cognitive dissonance that's required to be in a male
body and tell yourself that you're a female.
Speaker 3 (18:06):
Once again, we thank Brad Bergford for his time. It's
illumin legal. I'll get it right one of these times, Brad.
Appreciate your time and everything that you're doing on the
legal front on behalf of parents in Colorado, and we'll
talk to you again soon downline thing all right again,
illumin legal say it with me, illumin legal spelled I
(18:26):
L l U M I N E. And that's Brad
Bergford joining us here on Ryan Schuling Live a time out.
We have reconnected with aj Rice much anticipated.
Speaker 4 (18:36):
We'll have his book to give away.
Speaker 3 (18:38):
We'll announce that as well when we come back more
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Speaker 9 (20:25):
You're when you're looking at the media and you're listening
to them, and you listen to some of Hollywood, some
of academia here in the United States. They want all criminals,
whether they've come here the first time and deported second time,
have been deported, they want them all brought back. They
want they see future voters. Some might say current voters,
and I mean, I think I think Ukli handle themselves,
(20:47):
you know, fantastic. You know, the left is is not
quite sure here in the United States what to do
with some of these populists, Latin leaders like in Argentina
and l Salvador. They're they're used to the types of
leaders like the Castro Boys, right by Hugo Chavez, like
Daniel Gagel Ortega, right like Va Morales, these up left
(21:09):
wing Marxists. They remind them of their romantic days when
they were in journalism school.
Speaker 4 (21:18):
And not only that.
Speaker 3 (21:19):
As I referenced earlier, Barbara Walters did the famous sit
down with Fidel Castro, and it was a rosy picture
she was painting, allowing him to advance his propaganda, you know,
free education.
Speaker 4 (21:29):
With the communist.
Speaker 3 (21:30):
Dictatorship in Cuba, why were people venturing through shark infested
waters on the door of a fifty seven Chevy to
come over to the shores of Miami.
Speaker 4 (21:39):
Then go watch the movie Scarface.
Speaker 3 (21:41):
It's fictionalized, but it's based on a true story of
what happened when Fidel Castro opened up his prisons and
sent all of them over here to Florida.
Speaker 4 (21:50):
AJ Rice is who you heard.
Speaker 3 (21:51):
He's the CEO, founder of Publici's pr He is also
the author of the White Privilege album bringing racial harmon
two very fine people on both sides. He joins us
now on Ryan Schuling Live. AJ Welcome, brother Ryan.
Speaker 9 (22:06):
Great to be here. You know, it's so funny. There
is a long history of the left, especially in academia
and the media being romantic basically romanced by different types
of dictators. I remember if Stone at the New York
Times once said about Stalin's Russia, I've seen the future
and it works. There were Hitler's on the cover of
(22:29):
Time magazine Man of the Year. One of the ones
that always gets lost in time is Mike Wallace sixty minutes,
father of Chris Wallace, formerly of Fox News and now
also formerly of the defunct CNN Plus, which none of
us watched. He sits down with Iatola Komani, this intellectual,
(22:52):
this Persian intellectual studying in the West. He's sitting there
with him in Paris. He's got a little he's got
to quit song. And they're talking about how, you know,
the Shaws corrupt in the Shah, this and the Shah
that you know, go sha yourself, And Mike Wallace, who's Jewish,
(23:16):
is being romanticized of the man that would then lead
the Iranian nineteen seventy nine revolution. Right, who today, ladies
and gentlemen, is telling all of you that a the
First Holocaust never happened, and b they want to bring
about the second one, and AJ.
Speaker 3 (23:34):
It's funny in recent years too, the types of individuals
that members of the left could be Democrats selected to office,
could be members of the mainstream media, could be Taylor Lorenz,
who herself is an insane person, but the likes of
Luigi Mangioni or kilmar Abraio Garcia, that they're elevating these
(23:55):
types to advance their causes.
Speaker 4 (23:56):
What does that tell.
Speaker 9 (23:57):
Us, Well, I mean kind of things the Democrats, and
I mean Trump's not even president one hundred days yet,
and they are basically you're showing us who they are,
and we should believe them. You know, they're lifting their
skirt up and sometimes there's a man under there, and
some days there's a woman under there. But they're telling
us what their priorities are. And MANGEONI and the you
(24:20):
know snow White and the seven anti Semites on Columbia
University campus. They love them. They love the planeloads full
of illegal aliens and Trendy and Aragua and MS thirteen
being turned around coming to a cul de sac near you.
They like sending men into Nancy Mace's bathroom. They love
the irs. I mean, this is who they are here.
(24:44):
I mean, this is what they've doubled down on. And
then they've sent out you know, my girlfriend Jasmine Crockett
very upset about the tariffs disrupting her supply of eyelashes
coming in from China. And of course the leader of
the youth movement, Bernie Sanders going to Coachella eighty three
years old with the bartender. This is who they're telling
us they are. And this is why Bill Mark said
(25:08):
recently that you know, Democrat approval ratings at like twenty
three percent, and with independence it's at eleven percent. So
if you it's not incumbent upon conservatives or populace libertarians
to explain how we won, as if it was some
miraculous feat. Look at what you've done to yourself. So
(25:28):
Bill Clinton could not get elected dog catcher if he
ran tomorrow in the modern Democrat Party.
Speaker 3 (25:35):
Ag Rice is our guest. We'll get to his book
in just a moment, the White Privilege album. You can
find that on Amazon. But you've taken me right to
this SoundBite that I wanted you to hear. Aj I'm
not sure if you've heard it yet, but there seems
to be this division with the Democratic Party. Bill Maher
is part of it. On the left, I would say
Governor Gavin Newsom even he's getting it to a point like, hey,
(25:57):
we got to do something different here and pump the
brakes on where however, this train is going. And also
Rom Emmanuel, who is the former mayor of Chicago, former
chair of the DNC. He goes on this podcast with
Jennifer Welch and she absolutely lights him on fire.
Speaker 4 (26:13):
Get a load of this.
Speaker 3 (26:14):
So what have you had it with?
Speaker 9 (26:16):
I would say we have a series of topics that
I think sometimes consume in the other topics that don't
actually get the attention that they should get, and we
ended up fighting for the wrong things. We were really
south on kitch table issues. We're really good about the
family room issues. I disagree with you. I agree with you, Okay.
The only room we are the only room we do
really well, was the bathroom, and that's the smallest room
(26:38):
in the house.
Speaker 3 (26:38):
Such book, that is a total book that is.
Speaker 10 (26:41):
Buying into the right wing media narrative. And I'm so
sick of Democrats like you selling out and saying this.
You know who talks about trans people more than anybody.
Maga Kamala Harris talked about home ownership, she talked about
kitchen table issues. Trump's over there droning on about Hannibal Lecter.
Are you kidding me? This is where the Democrats lose
(27:01):
because we're playing the game with the rule book. They've
writ the rulebook up in a kraminit down. Everybody's throats
are upset because Joe Biden pardoned his son. We kind
of fight. They're a gender obsessed weirdos, not us. We're
the ones who fight for social security, we fight for Medicare,
and yeah, we're not going to bully trans people. We're
not gonna do it.
Speaker 3 (27:24):
Fine, Wait a minute, a j who are the gender
obsessed weirdos?
Speaker 9 (27:27):
We are? That's right, that's right, Tommy.
Speaker 4 (27:32):
You know it's funny.
Speaker 9 (27:33):
When I was the executive producer of the Laura Ingram Show,
Laura and I used to joke about how Tommy had
too mommies. Now Tommy doesn't just have to mommy.
Speaker 5 (27:41):
Sometimes that mommy becomes.
Speaker 9 (27:42):
A daddy, and sometimes Tommy becomes Sally.
Speaker 3 (27:45):
And I gotta tell you, as much as.
Speaker 9 (27:47):
A little stubby finger raccoon face there rom Emmanuel. I
haven't always liked him, but I gotta be honest with you.
He comes from a family of very smart, shrewd men.
He's Jewish himself. He probably doesn't like the uh the
squad hunting his uh his tribesmen on college campuses. And
he gets it. He gets it. And there look, here's
(28:10):
the thing. At the left wants to understand why they're losing.
It's because they have gone hard at anyone that escapes
the intellectual plantation. One of the reasons Arkkid Junior and
Telcy Gabbard in particular, and now Elon Musk that they
are asker them is because they used to be Democrats
(28:32):
and then they left because the Democrat Party has lost
its mind.
Speaker 3 (28:35):
Full disclosure.
Speaker 9 (28:36):
Arf Kid Junior and Tulsa are my clients at Puvis
PR and I will tell you this is why they're
doing what they're doing to Bill Maher. This is why
they have gone after Seth Moulton Congressman said, Hey, maybe
we should talk a little bit more about you know,
I don't know the plumbers union in Pittsburgh. Then you know,
you know men and women's bathrooms. You know, maybe we
(28:58):
should maybe we should get back to our roots. This
is why they're after Fatterman for going to Morrow Lago. See,
here's the thing. They are captured. They're captured and for
look here's the thing. For years, and I don't know
which stick in Denver Rush Limbaugh was on, but your audience,
will we called. You know, they definitely are listening to
(29:20):
you to listen to him. For years, they talked about
how they wanted to find their own Rush Limbaugh, and
they tried Ed Schultz and Stuart Smalley and Jennine Garoffalo
and all these hacks. It never happened. And now they're
saying to themselves, we need to find our own Joe Rogan.
Here's the thing. Both Tolsey Gabbard and Joe Rogan endorsed
(29:41):
Ernie Sanders in twenty sixteen. So you lost Joe Rogan,
Naomi Wolf, RFK Junior, you lost Elon. So this is
really again, it's not about what did you people do.
You moved the gold posts of liberalism l liberalism, and
(30:02):
you lost a giant swath of America in the process.
Speaker 3 (30:06):
AJ Rice is the author of the White Privilege album
Bringing Racial Harmony the very fine people on both sides.
Aj tell us a little bit about the book, and
then I'll tell the people how they can win a
free copy.
Speaker 9 (30:18):
Well, look, speaking of Rush, I grew up, I'm a
Rush baby. In FACTI and I had the same birthday,
and I grew up with him. I grew up with
Howard too. We were all three of us born on
January twelfth, different years, of course. But I come from
the radio world with Ingram, Michael Savage, many others, Glenn
Beck and was mentored by Adria Breitbart. And the one
(30:40):
thing I can tell you is that I believe that
we can convert more people through humor, through culture. This
is why Guttfeld is crushing people in late night. So
both the Woking Dad, my first book, and the White
Privilege Album, which is a sequel, are there to put
a smile on your face hopefully basically use irreverent humor
to illustrate truth.
Speaker 4 (31:02):
And that is where we'll leave this conversation for today.
Speaker 3 (31:04):
You can find the White Privilege Album on Amazon or
you can win a free copy right now, now, AJ,
how many copies you're gonna send us up to you?
Speaker 9 (31:12):
How many do you want? What do you what we got?
Speaker 3 (31:15):
Well, let's go at five.
Speaker 9 (31:16):
Okay, we'll send six.
Speaker 4 (31:20):
One up. I love it. It's the overbit.
Speaker 3 (31:22):
It's like price is right right, Ray, all right, AJ
we appreciate that. We'll look forward to those and I'll
let the people know how they can win it right now.
Speaker 4 (31:31):
But thank you for your time today.
Speaker 3 (31:32):
I'm no doubt going to have many more conversations with
you along these lines.
Speaker 4 (31:36):
This was hilarious stuff for sure.
Speaker 9 (31:37):
For sure, you guys are patriots. I appreciate it, brother,
Thank you?
Speaker 4 (31:40):
All right? AJ Rice?
Speaker 3 (31:41):
Right there, and if you want to be a registered
to win your copy of the White Privileged Album, as
authored by the aforementioned and introduced AJ Rice, just text
us right now five seven seven three nine, your name
and where I can send this. We'll get to those
details as well. We'll give away five copies of those
going to send us six, so maybe six, and I
(32:02):
just need the answer to the following question. He cited
an interview that Mike Wallace of sixty minutes Fame conducted
with a famous world leader. Which world leader was that?
Send your answer and if it's correct at five seven
seventy three nine, you'll be entered to win a free
copy of the White Privileged album written by aj Rice.
Speaker 4 (32:22):
Our last guest a time out.
Speaker 3 (32:24):
We're back to wrap it all up after this on
Ryan Schuling Live, and we got some winners filtering in here.
I'm gonna get in touch with each and every one
of you, and thanks for sending those along. The correct
answer to the question asked before break that aj Rice
(32:44):
was he hilarious, funny guy and his book which is
coming out, which we discussed as well, and he talked
about Mike Wallace, the esteemed former lead host of sixty minutes,
sitting down with a very controversial world leader at a
time when the Shaw of Iran was being overthrown. And
(33:05):
if you guess the Iyatola Combe Many and spelling was
not a factor, so I had several people to I'm
not sure how to spell it, but it was a
this and you're close enough, close enough, you're around the target.
But the book is the white privileged album bringing racial
harmony to very fine people on both sides. Aj Rice,
the author, joining us in that previous segment. If you're
(33:27):
a winner, I'll be reaching out to you, and thanks
for sending that information along. We'll get that lined up.
As soon as those books come in, we'll get them
shipped out. And again appreciate all of you listening and
tuning in and participating. Participating as a guest host for
the Dan Kapla Show is the Sheriff of Wild County,
Steve Reims. We were kind of watching together in a
(33:47):
way the Nuggets Clippers game last night and Steve, it
just didn't quite.
Speaker 4 (33:52):
Go our way.
Speaker 11 (33:52):
Well, you promised me forty points, Dak. He did not
deliver on your promise, and had he done that, they
would have won.
Speaker 4 (33:59):
That was the number.
Speaker 11 (34:00):
That was the number. It was definitely needed. You know,
they just they kind of fell apart at the end there.
So what do you know, who's not going to fall
apart at the end. You at the end of the
Dan Kaplis show, So what are you coming on? Tap?
So We're going to kind of do a sheriff show today.
I want to talk to people about law enforcement in
the state of Colorado. Do they feel safer? Do they
not feel safer? You know, is their life better five
years from the past. And I'm gonna have several sheriffs
(34:24):
on to kind of share their experience of where the
law enforcement community has gone and what crime in Colorado
looks like.
Speaker 3 (34:29):
Well, that'll be interesting insight. Now you might not have
enough time to answer it right now, but maybe a teaser.
What is the craziest case you've ever had to investigate
and pursue?
Speaker 11 (34:39):
A homicide involving a person who was the stranger to
the victim, that they had no connection to one another,
and it was a brutal homicide. I mean, just talking
about it here, you know, gives me some thoughts about
the scene that day. But it was definitely the most
difficult case I've ever worked, but we worked it to assault.
Speaker 3 (35:00):
Glad to hear that and looking forward to more details
on these other stories from other sheriffs that you're talking
to as well, something I received terrible news last night,
my buddy Hutch down in Tampa, mutual friends of ours
lost a young man to fentanyl.
Speaker 4 (35:16):
Oh yeah, and he had been missing.
Speaker 3 (35:18):
For five days and not shown up for work for three.
And what I appreciated about the story that Hutch told
me was that sheriff's on scene, they go inside, they
see the young man obviously in that state of decomposition,
and they said, it's better.
Speaker 4 (35:32):
That you not see him this.
Speaker 3 (35:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 11 (35:33):
Yeah, you know, we're dealing with more and more of
those exposures every day.
Speaker 2 (35:37):
You know.
Speaker 11 (35:37):
Narcan is a common thing that we're deploying. Yeah, saving
people from themselves. And it's sad. I mean, you can
get these pills for his cheapest two bucks out on
the street and they'll take your life.
Speaker 4 (35:48):
Only takes one mistake and that's it.
Speaker 3 (35:50):
And sometimes like you're at a party and one young
person might give something to another young person and not
even know that it's laced with fentanyls. So Sheriff Steve
Reim's doing the good work and well bringing inother sheriffs
as well, should be a fascinating show to listen to.
Stay tuned for that coming up on the DAN Kaplis
Show straight ahead. That'll do it for me from here
for now. Thanks so much for tuning in. We'll talk
(36:10):
to you again tomorrow. Right here, I'm Ryan Schuling Live
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