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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Our number two, and I promise it'll be twice as good.
And that's simply is because of our next guest. I
promised her in the promo, and here she is. She's
Boomstick Babe on all the socials and she may be
the number one two a advocate in the state and
certainly throughout the country because ground zero for a lot
of this battle in protecting and defending our Second Amendment
(00:21):
rights is right here in Colorado. After the gun grab
bill that was signed into law by Jared Polis, it'll
take effect in August of twenty twenty six.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
It will no doubt be challenged in the courts.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
I think it will suffer the same fate as the
Heller decision and that our rights will be restored by
the Supreme Court of the United States.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
But that's going to take time.
Speaker 1 (00:39):
And in a lot of ways we've talked about it
with Alicia Garcia. The process is the punishment, to quote
Dan Bongino, that being deprived of those rights for that
extended period of time is at least going to buy
the Democrats time and selling the red meat to their
base that they were able to ban some guns, ban
people's access to guns, and quote require that we pay
(01:00):
for training courses just in order to purchase guns. I mean,
this is an obvious obstruction of our Second Amendment rights.
And Alicia has been on the front lines, quite literally,
testifying at the Colorado General Assembly, fighting back against every
attack on our Second Amendment rights. And in their latest article,
this one's going to be interesting because this is about
the Big Beautiful Bill. But the title of her article
(01:23):
is the Big Beautiful Backfire. How Colorado could lose suppressor
rights without Section three of the Hearing Protection Act. We
dig down deeper now with Alsia Garcia here on Ryan
Shulding Live. Alicia, welcome back.
Speaker 3 (01:36):
Thank you, Ryan. You're always so kind to me.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
Absolutely, you do great work, and I'm very interested in
your very informed opinion of what is going on here.
Now we know this Big Beautiful Bill is far from perfect.
I would never sing its praises to the hilt and
say that everything in it is great. There's always going
to be some earmarks, some pork barrel spending, some special
pet projects that get lopped into it to earn votes.
And I know how that all works in Wa Washington.
(02:00):
Who knows what's going to happen in the Senate. But
you've narrowed in on a specific detail about suppressor rights.
Tell us more about this, what it means, and how
you found out about it.
Speaker 3 (02:12):
So I my organization is called the Second Syndicate. We're
a grassroots to a nonprofit that we started.
Speaker 4 (02:19):
This year in January with my partner's Spartan Defense, a
gun shop in Colorado Springs, because we were noticing there.
Speaker 3 (02:25):
Was so much, so much bs going on.
Speaker 4 (02:29):
In the gun community, a lot of people not.
Speaker 3 (02:30):
Working together, a lot of you know, bad pace in
people's mouth from previous.
Speaker 4 (02:34):
Things that have happened with different organizations, and we said,
you know, it's very critical that we bring people information
and bring them.
Speaker 3 (02:40):
Together under the protection of the Second Amendment, because, as
we all know, the Second Amendment is not a political affiliation,
it is a human and civil rights. So we banded together,
we created the Second Syndicate, and my business partner, Teddy Collins,
is also the vice president of.
Speaker 4 (02:55):
The Colorado Federal Firearms Licensee Association, to which I am
also the executive director of Public Relations and Community Outreach
for the Colorado Federal Farms Licensee Association.
Speaker 3 (03:08):
So we got to talking with our lead counsel James Cook,
who is an attorney and also.
Speaker 4 (03:13):
A gunsmith in FFL in Colorado, and he found a
couple errors in the big beautiful bill and we.
Speaker 3 (03:18):
Started looking into it, and what we found is that, yes, indeed,
you know, it's.
Speaker 4 (03:22):
Great that we want to take suppressors off.
Speaker 3 (03:25):
You knows as a restricted item. But the way that
Colorado works, and you know, it's kind of convoluted. So
I want to be very careful about how I reverberate
this to people, is that the problem is Colorado, since
we're working with a state that is very, very anti gun.
The way that they that they have defined suppressors in
(03:48):
the state of Colorado law is they define them as
dangerous weapons, and in order to possess these quote unquote
dangerous weapons, you need a permit. Well, they have recognized
as a state government and the NFA tax stamp as
the permitting process to obtain suppressors. Well, if we get
rid of suppressors from the NFA, which you know we
(04:11):
as a second syndicate definitely support the state laws, don't
vanish with it. So most of these states, like Colorado,
we've identified seventeen absolutely that are not pro to a Well,
this will not actually fix their own laws when it
comes to deregulating suppressors. What will actually do is it
(04:32):
takes away the mechanism in which Colorado would recognize suppressors
in their ability to be accessed by the people. So
the second syndicate, you know, we said, well what are
we going to do? So what we did is we said, hey,
we need to get section three of the Heir and
Protection Act and section four put back in the big
beautiful Bill to make sure that states like Colorado in
(04:55):
seventeen other states don't suffer from not having access to
these tools. So when we if we say, hey, guess
what we need them to put section three back into
the big beautiful Bill through the Here and Protection Act.
What that will do is it will require the form
four four seven three to buying a suppressor as the
(05:15):
prerequisite to exercise the Second Amendment rights and a mechanism
to suffice the anti two way laws here in Colorado.
And you know, I want to be very clear here,
we do not advocate for the second you know, the
form four four seven three or asking the state permission
for anything. What we are saying is this is the
only prerequisite and the only law that we have in
place right now that would prevent people from having no
(05:39):
access to these tools whatsoever. And it would make people
overnight who wanted to access suppressors, and it would make
it a classify felony. So how do we do that, Well,
we get that Section three put back in the big
beautiful bill, and even better, what we've been asking our
Congress to do. We've reached out, we wrote a letter,
We've had a lot of the Colorado Republicans signed on
(06:00):
and say, hey, we want Section three of the Hair
and Protection Act plus language of the Short Act plus
Section four of the Hair and Protection Act put back.
Speaker 5 (06:08):
Into the big beautiful Bill.
Speaker 3 (06:09):
That way we can get not only, you know, protections
for suppressors, but hey, let's just go for gold and
let's get full federal preemption put back in there. That way,
we can have not only alternatives to Section three, but
we can flip the script and take back the power
to the Feds. And I know that sounds kind of weird,
but right now, we have a government in Colorado that
is very very anti TA and we've deal with all
(06:30):
of these laws that they're creating. We need a way
to come back. So how we can do that is,
take the power out of the state from them to
make laws that are anti constitutional, that are anti federal government.
And we could come back and say, Okay, now that
we have federal preemption, now that we have this language,
we can fight back and say these all of these
laws are illegal now and let's get rid of them.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
Follow her on the socials at Boomstick Babe. She is
Alicia Garcia and the organization that she cites that she
is a part of, co founder of the Second Sin
you can find online at the th two n D
Second Syndicate dot com.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
Now, Alicia touched on it a little bit. The Big
Beautiful Bill.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
Currently resides with Majority Leader John Fohon and the Republicans
in the Senate that he's hoping to keep together in
a coalition to approve it, maybe with.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
Some amendments and changes.
Speaker 1 (07:20):
But we don't have a Republican senator obviously in this state, Colorado,
we do have four members of Congress in the House
who are Republicans, Jeff Heard, Jeff Crank, Lauren Bobert of course,
and Gabe Evans. Have you reached out to all four
of them? Have they responded to you? Do you think
this has traction and what can be done at this point,
given that the bill has already passed the House, it's
(07:42):
over to the Senate. They've got to wait on maybe
some amendments changes there, it comes back to the House.
Is there an opportunity still at this point to change
it before it goes to President Trump's desk?
Speaker 3 (07:52):
And there absolutely is. And indeed, we have reached out
to Bobrat's office and Crank and all of our amazing
representatives that we have there, and they have been very
open to talking with us, and we really thank them
for being open to hearing this. But the fight doesn't
stop there, just like you said, like we have you know, Bennett,
and we have Hickenlooper that are hardcore anti gunners representing Colorado.
(08:15):
So I implore everybody in the state of Colorado and
nationwide to reach out to the Senate Finance Committee, you know,
call the switchboard in DC. Be respectful, but be be
absolute and say, hey, you know what, this is my name,
I am your constituent. Leave put Section three and section four.
Help put the whole language of the Hearing Protection Act
(08:36):
back into the big beautiful build. Let's focus on getting
the Short Act back in there. Let's go for gold.
Let's get federal preemption because we the people want this.
And let them know that that's how you feel, because
we have to remember that the power does lie in
the people. The power is ours, and these people do
work for us, but they don't know if you what
you want, if you don't speak up and let them
(08:57):
know what you want. So reach out, make a phone call,
call them a couple times a day, leave messages, you know,
let these people know that indeed we want freedom, and
of course we want freedom for all, not just freedom
for some. So if we get this, this put back
and the Big Beautiful Bill, it makes it so much
easier for states like Colorado and Alaska and Arizona and
(09:17):
Connecticut and Georgia and all these places that without Section three,
they will criminalize the purchase of suppressors and SBRs once
again upon the removal from the NFA. So we deserve
to have access to these tools. So push back, say
that's what we want, and use your voices to organize
and let these people know that indeed we want our
ability to access these suppressors.
Speaker 1 (09:38):
You can read her article entitled the Big Beautiful Backfire
How Colorado could lose suppressor rights without Section three of
the Hearing Protection Act online.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
Find it through a Google search.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
I'll have the link posted as part of this podcast
hour once that's up later tonight. Alicia Garcia our guest,
that website one more time, the Second Syndicate dot com,
that's the two End Syndic dot com, and on socials
including ACT. She is at Boomstick Babe. Alisia Garcia, always
a pleasure talking to you. Good luck in this fight
in preserving our Second Amendment rights.
Speaker 3 (10:10):
Thank you so much, and for all you listening. Please
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If you like the work we're doing, we need your support.
Please help us any way you can and donate. We
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Speaker 2 (10:20):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
Alicia Garcia the Second Syndicate check them out online. They
are awesome and Alsia herself is phenomenal in with this
work in protecting our rights here in Colorado. Five seven
seven three nine. Let's get to some texts. You got
a lot of those coming in.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
Ryan.
Speaker 1 (10:36):
This is from the same texter two back to back,
twice as nice. Any peaceful protester who hangs out in
a riot is a dumbass. Well I'll continue on that
by going to the second post uh text from the
same texter. Even the peaceful in quotes protesters are complicit
with the rioters. They're making a bad situation worse by
(10:57):
just being present, making the job hard a on the cops.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
Here's how they could make it easier. Text.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
They could separate themselves from the nair duells, from the
Antifa types, from those wearing masks, from those burning cars,
from those maybe burning the American flag, from those throwing
rocks at cops, by speaking out, holding a press conference.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
Why don't you see this? You could see this. They
could do this. They should do this. They're not doing it.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
Why not and saying, look, we object to the Trump policies.
We support open borders and illegal aliens galore. They should
be on the government dime. I want to pay for
all their medicaid. Just have all those policy positions. Okay,
that's insane. I disagree, but that is you're right. First Amendment.
And then just say, look, we are protesting peacefully in
the spirit of Martin Luther King and Julio Caesar Chavez.
(11:44):
We are not advocating for violence. We don't tolerate violence.
Anybody committing violence against police officers or US Marines or
National guardsmen or women. We reject it out of hand.
It denigrates our own cause, it undermines our purpose here.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
But you don't see or hear them doing any of that.
Why not silence in this case is complicity?
Speaker 1 (12:11):
To the Texter's point, it absolutely is, because if you
don't call it out when it's happening, it's happening the
fires and go No, that's not us, that's not what
we're about.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
And I'll tell you who is doing it. One guy,
John Fetterman. Based Fetterman.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
Now, I don't agree with everything that he says or does,
but this guy has got a finger on the pulse
of the American people, and I think he's he's got
this the right way. He says the following in a
post on X himself. I unapologetically stand for free speech,
peaceful demonstrations, and immigration.
Speaker 2 (12:44):
But this is not that.
Speaker 1 (12:46):
This is anarchy and true chaos. My party loses the
moral high ground when we refuse to condemn setting cars
on fire, destroying buildings, and assaulting law enforcement. Well, bravo,
John Fetterman. But he shouldn't be on an island. Why
is he the only Democrat doing this. It's always but
(13:06):
Trump and John Fetterman. He gave us that wisdom it
was some time ago about what.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
They cannot afford to do on the.
Speaker 1 (13:16):
Left, which is make everything about Donald Trump and react
to every little thing that he does. We have a choice,
you know, we can freak out and follow every other
thing around, you know, like a cat, you know, with
a laser, you know, after a one.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
But I'm not that guy. I'm not gonna be the
Democrat You're not.
Speaker 1 (13:31):
But the rest of your party is, John, and that
is much to their own detriment. They're trying to blame
what is going on on Donald Trump. And I just
don't think this is gonna hold water with the majority
of Americans. Sure, the rabbid, lunatic leftist fringe Trump derangement
syndrome having, they're gonna buy it. They're gonna take it,
hook line and sinker. You don't have to worry about
(13:53):
that's twenty percent of America. Now you got that kind
of center left portion of disaffected Democrats who know that
the POWs aren't working, that don't like Donald Trump, and
they're going, wait a minute, I don't like the guy,
but This is not his fault. What are you trying
to gaslight me with here? And that's exactly where we are.
This from Alexa. Congrats to Robb Dawson. I'm being promoted
(14:14):
a news director. Yes, he is over at KOA and
he's already complaining to me that Tuesdays.
Speaker 2 (14:19):
Are for meetings.
Speaker 1 (14:21):
It seems to be a lot of that in corporate America,
that Tuesdays.
Speaker 2 (14:24):
Are the big meeting days.
Speaker 1 (14:27):
My fiance, Kelsey's, goes through the same thing Tuesdays like
she dreads Tuesdays.
Speaker 2 (14:31):
Is this a common thing? Well, why Tuesdays? Well, you know, Monday,
you're still getting ramp back up. I get that. Maybe
that's why Ryan.
Speaker 1 (14:40):
I just watched the La City council meeting online with
the police chief there. The council was only concerned with
stopping ice and how horrible the illegals are being treated.
Arg not once did they bring up the rights or
well being of actual Americans. LAPD only arrested a grand
total of roughly one hundred and forty people since Friday
and would not comment on how many actually are facing charges.
(15:02):
Twenty three businesses completely looted in only fourteen arrests. I
think the liberals actually want society to completely collapse if
they can't have their way.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
Yes, it's a tantrum.
Speaker 1 (15:12):
I compared it to a toddler tantrum on Twitter now
x that they're saying, well, if ice and it just
goes away in the National Guard, the Marines, then the
rioting will stop.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
It's kind like.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
The beatings will continue until morale improves. Kind of along
those lines. No, you don't get to terrorize your way
into a point by using that means of terror as
a cudgel as a political weapon.
Speaker 2 (15:43):
We're not going to reward that behavior.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
Certainly not going to enable or encourage that behavior, not
the Trump administration anyway. Democrats gladly will Kevin Newsom and
Karen Bass will take that as far as it can go.
Doesn't solve the problem in hand, which is that lawlessness,
the destruction, the broken winds theory that you talk about,
this is only happening in Democrat cities and Democrat states.
(16:06):
That's where this is happening, where the governor and the
mayor are complicit in not doing anything to re establish
law and order.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
And there have been waves of the pendulum.
Speaker 1 (16:17):
That have swung through the ages, through the Annals of
American History. Richard Nixon ran on law and order famously
in nineteen sixty eight, and then the Democrats quite literally
set themselves on fire at their own convention in Chicago
nineteen sixty eight, and the National Guard was called in
by President Lyndon Mainz Johnson, and people were ready for
(16:40):
a change. They wanted re establishment of law and order,
of a reduction in crime, of a focus on defending
and supporting law enforcement. And Richard Nixon ran on that one,
on that and Watergate aside. Go look at the electoral
map for nineteen seventy two. Again, we can have a
rabbit hole converse about this, But Nixon was going to
(17:02):
win in a landslide.
Speaker 2 (17:03):
He knew that. He did that.
Speaker 1 (17:06):
Why would he be spying on the Democratic campaign or
breaking into the Watergate I don't know.
Speaker 2 (17:12):
It doesn't make sense to me. More time that goes by,
the more I'm.
Speaker 3 (17:14):
Like, m.
Speaker 1 (17:16):
Something's askew here. Kelly's even with me on this one.
Dan's not. But Richard Nixon he got a bad rap,
He got a raw deal. Richard Nixon on the whole
was a fantastic American president.
Speaker 2 (17:30):
He really was.
Speaker 1 (17:31):
If you look at the accomplishments of his years in office,
but of course it'll always be tainted by his resignation.
But I am one and maybe the minority camp that
says Richard Nixon got a raw deal. Assuming Brian, I
see no difference between Felujah and Los Angeles fact check true,
which means Kelly Coucerra is from Fallujah.
Speaker 2 (17:52):
I guess.
Speaker 1 (17:54):
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few exceptions, have scales over their eyes. All they have
are ludicrous, scripted DNC talking points. There's not original thought
among them, not really Steve that I mean John Fetterman.
Speaker 2 (18:07):
But he's an outcast in that party.
Speaker 1 (18:09):
He's one of the only Democrats I actually like or
have any degree any level of respect for.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
He's one of them, and maybe the only one.
Speaker 1 (18:18):
I think just having Maxine Waters on the streets is
a form of violence, just saying Patty being petty again,
Oh Petty Patty, we like Petty Patty on this show. Yes,
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Just so happens, that is the year our next guest
(21:30):
was born. I hope she doesn't mind me sharing that.
Martha Byrne you may remember her from As the World Turns.
She starred as Lily Walsh Schneider on that program, also
as her twin, and I've got a question about that,
as I am engaged to a twin sister and then
reprised the former character. But that's not why she's joining
us here on Ryan Schuling Live today. Her book In
(21:51):
the Interest of Justice, one woman's fight against a weaponized
justice department to save her husband who was targeted by
the Biden administration, one of many over those last four years.
Martha joins us. Now, Martha, thank you so much for
your time.
Speaker 5 (22:04):
Oh, thank you for having me. Thank you for that
great introduction. I appreciate that.
Speaker 1 (22:08):
Well, just a real quick because I has to confess
I was not a rabid watcher As the World Turns.
Speaker 2 (22:13):
But this sounds a lot.
Speaker 1 (22:15):
I'm not sure if you've watched Shit's Creek, one of
my favorite TV shows of all time.
Speaker 5 (22:19):
Course, of course, yeah.
Speaker 1 (22:20):
Moira Rose who then was reprised as a character as
a twin.
Speaker 2 (22:24):
What happened with the whole twin thing?
Speaker 5 (22:26):
So I was on As the World Turns. I started
when I was fifteen in nineteen eighty five.
Speaker 2 (22:32):
Wow.
Speaker 5 (22:32):
And then in two thousand, the executive producer had an
idea after kind of watching me off camera, which I'm
I'm kind of you know, I'd like to make the jokes.
And I'm from New Jersey and I'm all New Jersey
through and through, and he just thought that would be
a fun character to bring on and created this twin
and I played she was like a Jersey showgirl, Atlantic City, fun,
(22:56):
super fun character. And I played Wins for four years.
Which was awesome.
Speaker 2 (23:04):
That is a challenge too as an actress.
Speaker 1 (23:06):
I mean, your one character over here and then a
totally different one like you mentioned, kind of channeling different
impulses and motivations for the character, all that sort of thing.
So were you a fan of Catherine O'Hara as Moira Rose?
Was that an accurate depiction of a soap opera star?
Speaker 5 (23:21):
I love her? First of all, she's one of now
here's a good little trivia. She was a huge fan
of As the World Turns. When As the World Turns
gave the head writer Douglas Marland the Soap Opera Digest
Award for him, Katherine O'Hara actually did the introduction for
it because she was such a big fan. So she
(23:42):
must have channeled some of her viewership of As the
World Turns to play that role. She's a brilliant actress.
And yes, I mean there's some serious camp you know,
characters camping characters on soaps, but you know, my mine
wasn't one of those, but there are definitely very similar
characters on our show and other shows. She's a genius.
(24:04):
I mean, come on, she's a commedic genius and actress
across the board.
Speaker 2 (24:08):
I love this.
Speaker 1 (24:08):
It comes full circle and Martha Byrne connects the dots
for us there he can follow her on X and
Martha burn that last name spelled b y r N
and the number ten there, Martha, much more serious topic
and subject with regard to your husband and him being
a target of the Biden administration, and it prompting you
to write this book in the interest of justice for
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our listeners that are hearing about it for.
Speaker 2 (24:31):
The first time.
Speaker 1 (24:32):
Take us through what happened and when you knew something
was terribly askew.
Speaker 5 (24:38):
So, my husband is a retired NYPD sergeant. He worked
in the Bronx during the height of the worst time
in New York City. He was part of the Street
Crime Unit, which is the hand selected eighty police officers
who really took crime down in Manhattan and the Bronx, Brooklyn,
anywhere under Rugi Giuliani. And he was very prolific. He
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earned seventy eight medals while he was on the police department.
And then he was in a severe car accident on
the job during a police chase and had to retire,
which he was so young, and it was really devastating
for him. And then he decided to become a private
investigator and worked for defense attorneys, which he loved, and
he became a highly sought after a private investigator. He
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worked for the Vatican, he worked for presidential candidates. He
was very successful. He was really go to PI. He
is very good at it. And in twenty sixteen he
had a routine case a New York based translation company
called her client had alleged that money had been stolen
from his family construction business, which happened to be in China,
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but the person who stole the money had fled to
the United States, and he wanted to know where he
was spending the money. He wanted to know if he
had homes and things like that, you know, kind of
get evidence that this man was spending the money. My
husband hired two NYPD retired detectives who were also pi's.
He spoke to two federal agents about this case. In
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twenty sixteen. He worked for a couple of days doing
surveillance notify the local police. No very very typical, very
uneventful work. And the people that he was surveilling never
saw him. Nothing. It was a nothing case. He made
a few thousand dollars on the case. And then on
October twenty, twenty twenty, the FBI came to our house
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and arrested him for violating the Foreign Agents Registration Act
and interstate stocking. Now there was it was, first of all, shocking,
wouldn't even be the word. I'm still in shock about
all of this. But this is a man who's never
broken the law in his life. He would never ever
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ever work for the Chinese government. I mean, give me
a break. I mean, first of all, but nothing in
his life would ever show that. And the FBI in
New Jersey, in the Eastern District of New York, which
is Brooklyn, the prosecutor's office there created a case against
an American and charged him with this, and it was outrageous.
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I mean, he had saved everything. He has, every invoice,
he has, every text message. You know, we thought, okay,
we have all the evidence of it, but it must
be a mistake. And then when we said we would
fight back, they doubled down and really went after him
and tried to pressure him and intimidate him. And I mean,
it's Third World tactics that was going on. And you know,
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even though my husband was investigated under the Trump administration,
those that FBI during Trump's time, as everybody knows if
you've followed closely, they were spying on Donald Trump. They
were spying on his administration, they were spying on his
transition team. They were getting illegal search ones. They were
doing the same thing to my husband. So when he
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was arrested in October twenty twenty twenty and Joe Biden won,
that empowered the Obama appointed judge in our case, and
also the prosecutors who were knew they had free reign
to do anything they wanted, and they were nothing was
going to happen to them, so they went Not only
did they manufacture evidence, they suppressed evidence. I don't know
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if your listeners have been following it all about there's
a new story about how the FBI was hiding documents.
They were ghosting documents in you could even access documents,
and in our case, we would get delivery of evidence
like discovery and it would be encrypted and we couldn't
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open it. I mean, we would spend hours trying to
open one file, and the government would say, well, we
gave you everything we were obligated to do, and we're
not helping you open those files. So we are in
the pocket of all the corruption and all the dirty
tricks that the administration you know, had done in the
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last four years, and they've hit, they hit exculpatory evidence,
and it is really so. We went to trial because
we did nothing wrong, and we were prevented from putting
in our own defense at every turn. We ever won
one ruling in our favor. In four and a half years,
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lying to a jury, providing evidence to jury that was
false happened every day. I was shocked. And then he
was found not guilty of the major charge, which was
conspiracy to violate Farah, because the prosecution couldn't prove that
there was any foreign government connection to this case, yet
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they charged him with it based on their own whatever
they made up. But he was sound guilty on violating
far which is an administrative it's nonsense. And interstate stocking,
I mean, I'm not sure how you can be charging
suddenly you can find someone guilty of inter state stocking
when the victims, to the alleged victims couldn't identify him
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in court, never filed a police report that they saw him,
no pictures of a car, no license plate, no police reports.
Don't protect these people. Never saw my husband they couldn't.
How can you find him guilty of interstate stocking when
the alleged victims have no idea who he is. And
then but here's how it works in the government. So
since they had no evidence, they've brought in something else
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that happened at the same location, the same house eighteen
months later, a note was put on the door for
this guy's house, and they charged my husband with that,
which is it's insane, right you go, Okay, wait, my
husband was done with his work in twenty seventeen April.
How can they charge him with something that happened eighteen
months later that he has no connection to. Well, welcome
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to the federal government. Related to gentlemen, they will do
they will do anything and get away with everything to win.
Instead of taking out innocent people, they will create cases
around because they know they're.
Speaker 3 (31:14):
Going to win.
Speaker 5 (31:14):
They'll they'll find a tactic to get there. And it's
it's truly outrageous. And two weeks ago when they sentenced,
the judge sentenced my husband to eighteen months in federal
prison for committing no crime. And she said, she more
or less said, yeah, well you didn't really do anything, Okay,
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but you have no remorse for the victims. And I
want to tell you something. The victims in this case,
one of the victims, the alleged victims, is a former
Wuhan official who fled China, had stolen one hundred and
twenty seven million dollars. Allegedly he had committed immigration fraud
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in the United States. It's proven money laundering, wire fraud,
political campaign fraud in the United States. That is your victim,
ladies and gentlemen. That is who your government protected for
years and years and years have destroyed my family. So
forgive me if my husband's not feeling any remorse when
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he did nothing wrong, he would nothing that he did
did anything to them. So here we are. He's supposed
to report on Monday. It is outrageous. And so when
I got this book deal from Post Till Press in
around November of this past year twenty four, they said,
we wanted in six weeks. We want this book in
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six weeks, and I said, Okay, I'm going to do
it because I have to do this. The world has
to hear this story, and it's resonating with people. I'm
thrilled that people are feeling the book and I'm getting
great review, which is about about great reviews of my writing.
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It's about the feeling of total outrage. But here's the thing.
Now they have a book, but they can see the
tactics and how they get away because people always say,
how did they win ninety nine percent of their cases?
You know, how did they How did they get thirty
four felony counts on Donald Trump?
Speaker 2 (33:20):
How did they do that?
Speaker 5 (33:21):
He didn't commit a crime, So how did they? How
did there was no victim? How did they do that?
How was he convicted? Well, LA's a gentleman. Again, you
read my book, You'll see it. You'll see how they
they manipulate the system and the press orget it. I
mean they're they're complicit in it as well. And it's
it's the truth. And I have evidence in my book
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of who did it, who they spoke to, how it worked.
It is truly a playbook on the most corrupt, outrageous,
illegal to attack. Not just listen, it's my husband. He's
a hero. He loves this country. He's put his life
on the line. He's a nine to eleven first responders
he had he was so he is the epitome of
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a hero. But this is not just about my husband.
This is about our country, and when the FBI withholds
information that is of a national security concern to all
of us in this country to do their side little
deals and their business with the CCP, that's that's wrong.
And I've exposed all of it, and I've paid. I've
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paid a major I've paid a great price for that.
But I'm okay with that because it was necessary. So
I'm thrilled that people are reading it and enjoying it.
And we've had such a great support system in the public,
which is phenomenal.
Speaker 1 (34:41):
The book is in the Interest of Justice, Martha Byrne,
the author.
Speaker 2 (34:44):
You just heard. It just came out.
Speaker 1 (34:46):
It's available on Amazon, and it's especially rich the story
that she tells, the picture that she paints. When you
realize that Diane Feinstein had a Chinese spy in her
midst on her staff for years, it would appear Eric
Swalwell the spy who shagged me, spy at access to.
Speaker 2 (35:01):
Him and at Farah.
Speaker 1 (35:02):
How about Hunter Biden for Foreign Agent Registration Act with China?
No less so this stink. She wrote the book about it,
and Martha would be really curious to see where this goes,
not just with the book, but obviously with your husband,
and we wish you the very best and thank you
so much for taking the time today.
Speaker 2 (35:19):
We'll talk again soon down the line.
Speaker 5 (35:21):
Thank you. If we've put the part in request, that
president has it. Everyone has it in the team. So
we're praying that President Trump pardons him or stops this
before Monday. I know he'd be outraged when he hears
the details of this case because he'll say this exactly
happened to me.
Speaker 2 (35:37):
That's exactly right.
Speaker 1 (35:38):
Martha Burn our guest, and you can follow her once
again on x at Martha Burn b y r n
E Number ten A break. We're wrapping it up after this.
Ryan Shuling Live on a Tuesday. Yeah, but they riot
in LA. They might not be walking, they're setting fires
and all the above. Back with Kelly kuchera Ryan Shooling
(35:59):
Live with you things out. My apologies to George Brockler
who ran out of time. We needed like a four
hour show today and that was my bad, one man band,
the whole thing, you know, the drill. Let's get to
your text five seven seven three nine. Ryan, the Scale's
story is the family story should be in the New
York Post and the Denver Gazette and all the alternative
media to the corrupt left wing media.
Speaker 2 (36:19):
Oh absolutely.
Speaker 1 (36:20):
And that was Martha Byrne, the former soap opera star
for As the World Turns, and she revealed that Moira
Rose Catherine O'Hara herself was a fan of said program,
and Martha got to play not only herself her own character,
but the character's twin, evil twin perhaps interesting. And then
a series of texts here, Ryan, I thought your favorite
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shows growing up were Romper Room, Captain Kangaroo, Voltron, ThunderCats,
and twenty one Jump Street, Hit and Misses, all throughout
their boosom buddies, the facts of life. You keep going
this same text, By the way, Florence gen Castleberry, Polly Holiday,
flow On, Alice, kiss my grits. If somebody's into the
sauce a little bit early, but it's five o'clock somewhere,
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share with me.
Speaker 2 (37:04):
The only thing I asked, are you jealous that I
was on Romper Room?
Speaker 1 (37:08):
I know that you were, and we'll save that story
for tomorrow. Maybe George Brockler too. Again, my apologies to
GB my fault
Our number two, and I promise it'll be twice as good.
And that's simply is because of our next guest. I
promised her in the promo, and here she is. She's
Boomstick Babe on all the socials and she may be
the number one two a advocate in the state and
certainly throughout the country because ground zero for a lot
of this battle in protecting and defending our Second Amendment
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rights is right here in Colorado. After the gun grab
bill that was signed into law by Jared Polis, it'll
take effect in August of twenty twenty six.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
It will no doubt be challenged in the courts.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
I think it will suffer the same fate as the
Heller decision and that our rights will be restored by
the Supreme Court of the United States.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
But that's going to take time.
Speaker 1 (00:39):
And in a lot of ways we've talked about it
with Alicia Garcia. The process is the punishment, to quote
Dan Bongino, that being deprived of those rights for that
extended period of time is at least going to buy
the Democrats time and selling the red meat to their
base that they were able to ban some guns, ban
people's access to guns, and quote require that we pay
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for training courses just in order to purchase guns. I mean,
this is an obvious obstruction of our Second Amendment rights.
And Alicia has been on the front lines, quite literally,
testifying at the Colorado General Assembly, fighting back against every
attack on our Second Amendment rights. And in their latest article,
this one's going to be interesting because this is about
the Big Beautiful Bill. But the title of her article
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is the Big Beautiful Backfire. How Colorado could lose suppressor
rights without Section three of the Hearing Protection Act. We
dig down deeper now with Alsia Garcia here on Ryan
Shulding Live. Alicia, welcome back.
Speaker 3 (01:36):
Thank you, Ryan. You're always so kind to me.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
Absolutely, you do great work, and I'm very interested in
your very informed opinion of what is going on here.
Now we know this Big Beautiful Bill is far from perfect.
I would never sing its praises to the hilt and
say that everything in it is great. There's always going
to be some earmarks, some pork barrel spending, some special
pet projects that get lopped into it to earn votes.
And I know how that all works in Wa Washington.
(02:00):
Who knows what's going to happen in the Senate. But
you've narrowed in on a specific detail about suppressor rights.
Tell us more about this, what it means, and how
you found out about it.
Speaker 3 (02:12):
So I my organization is called the Second Syndicate. We're
a grassroots to a nonprofit that we started.
Speaker 4 (02:19):
This year in January with my partner's Spartan Defense, a
gun shop in Colorado Springs, because we were noticing there.
Speaker 3 (02:25):
Was so much, so much bs going on.
Speaker 4 (02:29):
In the gun community, a lot of people not.
Speaker 3 (02:30):
Working together, a lot of you know, bad pace in
people's mouth from previous.
Speaker 4 (02:34):
Things that have happened with different organizations, and we said,
you know, it's very critical that we bring people information
and bring them.
Speaker 3 (02:40):
Together under the protection of the Second Amendment, because, as
we all know, the Second Amendment is not a political affiliation,
it is a human and civil rights. So we banded together,
we created the Second Syndicate, and my business partner, Teddy Collins,
is also the vice president of.
Speaker 4 (02:55):
The Colorado Federal Firearms Licensee Association, to which I am
also the executive director of Public Relations and Community Outreach
for the Colorado Federal Farms Licensee Association.
Speaker 3 (03:08):
So we got to talking with our lead counsel James Cook,
who is an attorney and also.
Speaker 4 (03:13):
A gunsmith in FFL in Colorado, and he found a
couple errors in the big beautiful bill and we.
Speaker 3 (03:18):
Started looking into it, and what we found is that, yes, indeed,
you know, it's.
Speaker 4 (03:22):
Great that we want to take suppressors off.
Speaker 3 (03:25):
You knows as a restricted item. But the way that
Colorado works, and you know, it's kind of convoluted. So
I want to be very careful about how I reverberate
this to people, is that the problem is Colorado, since
we're working with a state that is very, very anti gun.
The way that they that they have defined suppressors in
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the state of Colorado law is they define them as
dangerous weapons, and in order to possess these quote unquote
dangerous weapons, you need a permit. Well, they have recognized
as a state government and the NFA tax stamp as
the permitting process to obtain suppressors. Well, if we get
rid of suppressors from the NFA, which you know we
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as a second syndicate definitely support the state laws, don't
vanish with it. So most of these states, like Colorado,
we've identified seventeen absolutely that are not pro to a Well,
this will not actually fix their own laws when it
comes to deregulating suppressors. What will actually do is it
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takes away the mechanism in which Colorado would recognize suppressors
in their ability to be accessed by the people. So
the second syndicate, you know, we said, well what are
we going to do? So what we did is we said, hey,
we need to get section three of the Heir and
Protection Act and section four put back in the big
beautiful Bill to make sure that states like Colorado in
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seventeen other states don't suffer from not having access to
these tools. So when we if we say, hey, guess
what we need them to put section three back into
the big beautiful Bill through the Here and Protection Act.
What that will do is it will require the form
four four seven three to buying a suppressor as the
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prerequisite to exercise the Second Amendment rights and a mechanism
to suffice the anti two way laws here in Colorado.
And you know, I want to be very clear here,
we do not advocate for the second you know, the
form four four seven three or asking the state permission
for anything. What we are saying is this is the
only prerequisite and the only law that we have in
place right now that would prevent people from having no
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access to these tools whatsoever. And it would make people
overnight who wanted to access suppressors, and it would make
it a classify felony. So how do we do that, Well,
we get that Section three put back in the big
beautiful bill, and even better, what we've been asking our
Congress to do. We've reached out, we wrote a letter,
We've had a lot of the Colorado Republicans signed on
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and say, hey, we want Section three of the Hair
and Protection Act plus language of the Short Act plus
Section four of the Hair and Protection Act put back.
Speaker 5 (06:08):
Into the big beautiful Bill.
Speaker 3 (06:09):
That way we can get not only, you know, protections
for suppressors, but hey, let's just go for gold and
let's get full federal preemption put back in there. That way,
we can have not only alternatives to Section three, but
we can flip the script and take back the power
to the Feds. And I know that sounds kind of weird,
but right now, we have a government in Colorado that
is very very anti TA and we've deal with all
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of these laws that they're creating. We need a way
to come back. So how we can do that is,
take the power out of the state from them to
make laws that are anti constitutional, that are anti federal government.
And we could come back and say, Okay, now that
we have federal preemption, now that we have this language,
we can fight back and say these all of these
laws are illegal now and let's get rid of them.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
Follow her on the socials at Boomstick Babe. She is
Alicia Garcia and the organization that she cites that she
is a part of, co founder of the Second Sin
you can find online at the th two n D
Second Syndicate dot com.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
Now, Alicia touched on it a little bit. The Big
Beautiful Bill.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
Currently resides with Majority Leader John Fohon and the Republicans
in the Senate that he's hoping to keep together in
a coalition to approve it, maybe with.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
Some amendments and changes.
Speaker 1 (07:20):
But we don't have a Republican senator obviously in this state, Colorado,
we do have four members of Congress in the House
who are Republicans, Jeff Heard, Jeff Crank, Lauren Bobert of course,
and Gabe Evans. Have you reached out to all four
of them? Have they responded to you? Do you think
this has traction and what can be done at this point,
given that the bill has already passed the House, it's
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over to the Senate. They've got to wait on maybe
some amendments changes there, it comes back to the House.
Is there an opportunity still at this point to change
it before it goes to President Trump's desk?
Speaker 3 (07:52):
And there absolutely is. And indeed, we have reached out
to Bobrat's office and Crank and all of our amazing
representatives that we have there, and they have been very
open to talking with us, and we really thank them
for being open to hearing this. But the fight doesn't
stop there, just like you said, like we have you know, Bennett,
and we have Hickenlooper that are hardcore anti gunners representing Colorado.
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So I implore everybody in the state of Colorado and
nationwide to reach out to the Senate Finance Committee, you know,
call the switchboard in DC. Be respectful, but be be
absolute and say, hey, you know what, this is my name,
I am your constituent. Leave put Section three and section four.
Help put the whole language of the Hearing Protection Act
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back into the big beautiful build. Let's focus on getting
the Short Act back in there. Let's go for gold.
Let's get federal preemption because we the people want this.
And let them know that that's how you feel, because
we have to remember that the power does lie in
the people. The power is ours, and these people do
work for us, but they don't know if you what
you want, if you don't speak up and let them
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know what you want. So reach out, make a phone call,
call them a couple times a day, leave messages, you know,
let these people know that indeed we want freedom, and
of course we want freedom for all, not just freedom
for some. So if we get this, this put back
and the Big Beautiful Bill, it makes it so much
easier for states like Colorado and Alaska and Arizona and
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Connecticut and Georgia and all these places that without Section three,
they will criminalize the purchase of suppressors and SBRs once
again upon the removal from the NFA. So we deserve
to have access to these tools. So push back, say
that's what we want, and use your voices to organize
and let these people know that indeed we want our
ability to access these suppressors.
Speaker 1 (09:38):
You can read her article entitled the Big Beautiful Backfire
How Colorado could lose suppressor rights without Section three of
the Hearing Protection Act online.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
Find it through a Google search.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
I'll have the link posted as part of this podcast
hour once that's up later tonight. Alicia Garcia our guest,
that website one more time, the Second Syndicate dot com,
that's the two End Syndic dot com, and on socials
including ACT. She is at Boomstick Babe. Alisia Garcia, always
a pleasure talking to you. Good luck in this fight
in preserving our Second Amendment rights.
Speaker 3 (10:10):
Thank you so much, and for all you listening. Please
donate to us. We are a five oh one c four.
If you like the work we're doing, we need your support.
Please help us any way you can and donate. We
appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (10:20):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
Alicia Garcia the Second Syndicate check them out online. They
are awesome and Alsia herself is phenomenal in with this
work in protecting our rights here in Colorado. Five seven
seven three nine. Let's get to some texts. You got
a lot of those coming in.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
Ryan.
Speaker 1 (10:36):
This is from the same texter two back to back,
twice as nice. Any peaceful protester who hangs out in
a riot is a dumbass. Well I'll continue on that
by going to the second post uh text from the
same texter. Even the peaceful in quotes protesters are complicit
with the rioters. They're making a bad situation worse by
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just being present, making the job hard a on the cops.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
Here's how they could make it easier. Text.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
They could separate themselves from the nair duells, from the
Antifa types, from those wearing masks, from those burning cars,
from those maybe burning the American flag, from those throwing
rocks at cops, by speaking out, holding a press conference.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
Why don't you see this? You could see this. They
could do this. They should do this. They're not doing it.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
Why not and saying, look, we object to the Trump policies.
We support open borders and illegal aliens galore. They should
be on the government dime. I want to pay for
all their medicaid. Just have all those policy positions. Okay,
that's insane. I disagree, but that is you're right. First Amendment.
And then just say, look, we are protesting peacefully in
the spirit of Martin Luther King and Julio Caesar Chavez.
(11:44):
We are not advocating for violence. We don't tolerate violence.
Anybody committing violence against police officers or US Marines or
National guardsmen or women. We reject it out of hand.
It denigrates our own cause, it undermines our purpose here.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
But you don't see or hear them doing any of that.
Why not silence in this case is complicity?
Speaker 1 (12:11):
To the Texter's point, it absolutely is, because if you
don't call it out when it's happening, it's happening the
fires and go No, that's not us, that's not what
we're about.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
And I'll tell you who is doing it. One guy,
John Fetterman. Based Fetterman.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
Now, I don't agree with everything that he says or does,
but this guy has got a finger on the pulse
of the American people, and I think he's he's got
this the right way. He says the following in a
post on X himself. I unapologetically stand for free speech,
peaceful demonstrations, and immigration.
Speaker 2 (12:44):
But this is not that.
Speaker 1 (12:46):
This is anarchy and true chaos. My party loses the
moral high ground when we refuse to condemn setting cars
on fire, destroying buildings, and assaulting law enforcement. Well, bravo,
John Fetterman. But he shouldn't be on an island. Why
is he the only Democrat doing this. It's always but
(13:06):
Trump and John Fetterman. He gave us that wisdom it
was some time ago about what.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
They cannot afford to do on the.
Speaker 1 (13:16):
Left, which is make everything about Donald Trump and react
to every little thing that he does. We have a choice,
you know, we can freak out and follow every other
thing around, you know, like a cat, you know, with
a laser, you know, after a one.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
But I'm not that guy. I'm not gonna be the
Democrat You're not.
Speaker 1 (13:31):
But the rest of your party is, John, and that
is much to their own detriment. They're trying to blame
what is going on on Donald Trump. And I just
don't think this is gonna hold water with the majority
of Americans. Sure, the rabbid, lunatic leftist fringe Trump derangement
syndrome having, they're gonna buy it. They're gonna take it,
hook line and sinker. You don't have to worry about
(13:53):
that's twenty percent of America. Now you got that kind
of center left portion of disaffected Democrats who know that
the POWs aren't working, that don't like Donald Trump, and
they're going, wait a minute, I don't like the guy,
but This is not his fault. What are you trying
to gaslight me with here? And that's exactly where we are.
This from Alexa. Congrats to Robb Dawson. I'm being promoted
(14:14):
a news director. Yes, he is over at KOA and
he's already complaining to me that Tuesdays.
Speaker 2 (14:19):
Are for meetings.
Speaker 1 (14:21):
It seems to be a lot of that in corporate America,
that Tuesdays.
Speaker 2 (14:24):
Are the big meeting days.
Speaker 1 (14:27):
My fiance, Kelsey's, goes through the same thing Tuesdays like
she dreads Tuesdays.
Speaker 2 (14:31):
Is this a common thing? Well, why Tuesdays? Well, you know, Monday,
you're still getting ramp back up. I get that. Maybe
that's why Ryan.
Speaker 1 (14:40):
I just watched the La City council meeting online with
the police chief there. The council was only concerned with
stopping ice and how horrible the illegals are being treated.
Arg not once did they bring up the rights or
well being of actual Americans. LAPD only arrested a grand
total of roughly one hundred and forty people since Friday
and would not comment on how many actually are facing charges.
(15:02):
Twenty three businesses completely looted in only fourteen arrests. I
think the liberals actually want society to completely collapse if
they can't have their way.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
Yes, it's a tantrum.
Speaker 1 (15:12):
I compared it to a toddler tantrum on Twitter now
x that they're saying, well, if ice and it just
goes away in the National Guard, the Marines, then the
rioting will stop.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
It's kind like.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
The beatings will continue until morale improves. Kind of along
those lines. No, you don't get to terrorize your way
into a point by using that means of terror as
a cudgel as a political weapon.
Speaker 2 (15:43):
We're not going to reward that behavior.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
Certainly not going to enable or encourage that behavior, not
the Trump administration anyway. Democrats gladly will Kevin Newsom and
Karen Bass will take that as far as it can go.
Doesn't solve the problem in hand, which is that lawlessness,
the destruction, the broken winds theory that you talk about,
this is only happening in Democrat cities and Democrat states.
(16:06):
That's where this is happening, where the governor and the
mayor are complicit in not doing anything to re establish
law and order.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
And there have been waves of the pendulum.
Speaker 1 (16:17):
That have swung through the ages, through the Annals of
American History. Richard Nixon ran on law and order famously
in nineteen sixty eight, and then the Democrats quite literally
set themselves on fire at their own convention in Chicago
nineteen sixty eight, and the National Guard was called in
by President Lyndon Mainz Johnson, and people were ready for
(16:40):
a change. They wanted re establishment of law and order,
of a reduction in crime, of a focus on defending
and supporting law enforcement. And Richard Nixon ran on that one,
on that and Watergate aside. Go look at the electoral
map for nineteen seventy two. Again, we can have a
rabbit hole converse about this, But Nixon was going to
(17:02):
win in a landslide.
Speaker 2 (17:03):
He knew that. He did that.
Speaker 1 (17:06):
Why would he be spying on the Democratic campaign or
breaking into the Watergate I don't know.
Speaker 2 (17:12):
It doesn't make sense to me. More time that goes by,
the more I'm.
Speaker 3 (17:14):
Like, m.
Speaker 1 (17:16):
Something's askew here. Kelly's even with me on this one.
Dan's not. But Richard Nixon he got a bad rap,
He got a raw deal. Richard Nixon on the whole
was a fantastic American president.
Speaker 2 (17:30):
He really was.
Speaker 1 (17:31):
If you look at the accomplishments of his years in office,
but of course it'll always be tainted by his resignation.
But I am one and maybe the minority camp that
says Richard Nixon got a raw deal. Assuming Brian, I
see no difference between Felujah and Los Angeles fact check true,
which means Kelly Coucerra is from Fallujah.
Speaker 2 (17:52):
I guess.
Speaker 1 (17:54):
Steven Littleton, retired law enforcement officer. Colorado Dems, with a
few exceptions, have scales over their eyes. All they have
are ludicrous, scripted DNC talking points. There's not original thought
among them, not really Steve that I mean John Fetterman.
Speaker 2 (18:07):
But he's an outcast in that party.
Speaker 1 (18:09):
He's one of the only Democrats I actually like or
have any degree any level of respect for.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
He's one of them, and maybe the only one.
Speaker 1 (18:18):
I think just having Maxine Waters on the streets is
a form of violence, just saying Patty being petty again,
Oh Petty Patty, we like Petty Patty on this show. Yes,
it's unanimous. Kelly just screamed and shouted your name. And
then finally this one, Rian, I wanted to thank you
for this past Friday night. My wife and I enjoyed
(18:38):
having a date night at Henry Chom So glad you
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So I wanted to thank you. God blessed well.
Speaker 2 (18:46):
Thank you.
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And I know Henry cho thinks she's a great guy.
He's a really tremendous comedian. He does it the right way.
He's family friendly, and he's funny. He's a legend in
the business. He's worked with all the big names. Jerry Seinfeld,
Norm MacDonald another big name joined next. How about g
brock George Brockler, twenty third District Attorney, He's next. I
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this song made famous at wood Stockbeck in nineteen sixty nine.
Just so happens, that is the year our next guest
(21:30):
was born. I hope she doesn't mind me sharing that.
Martha Byrne you may remember her from As the World Turns.
She starred as Lily Walsh Schneider on that program, also
as her twin, and I've got a question about that,
as I am engaged to a twin sister and then
reprised the former character. But that's not why she's joining
us here on Ryan Schuling Live today. Her book In
(21:51):
the Interest of Justice, one woman's fight against a weaponized
justice department to save her husband who was targeted by
the Biden administration, one of many over those last four years.
Martha joins us. Now, Martha, thank you so much for
your time.
Speaker 5 (22:04):
Oh, thank you for having me. Thank you for that
great introduction. I appreciate that.
Speaker 1 (22:08):
Well, just a real quick because I has to confess
I was not a rabid watcher As the World Turns.
Speaker 2 (22:13):
But this sounds a lot.
Speaker 1 (22:15):
I'm not sure if you've watched Shit's Creek, one of
my favorite TV shows of all time.
Speaker 5 (22:19):
Course, of course, yeah.
Speaker 1 (22:20):
Moira Rose who then was reprised as a character as
a twin.
Speaker 2 (22:24):
What happened with the whole twin thing?
Speaker 5 (22:26):
So I was on As the World Turns. I started
when I was fifteen in nineteen eighty five.
Speaker 2 (22:32):
Wow.
Speaker 5 (22:32):
And then in two thousand, the executive producer had an
idea after kind of watching me off camera, which I'm
I'm kind of you know, I'd like to make the jokes.
And I'm from New Jersey and I'm all New Jersey
through and through, and he just thought that would be
a fun character to bring on and created this twin
and I played she was like a Jersey showgirl, Atlantic City, fun,
(22:56):
super fun character. And I played Wins for four years.
Which was awesome.
Speaker 2 (23:04):
That is a challenge too as an actress.
Speaker 1 (23:06):
I mean, your one character over here and then a
totally different one like you mentioned, kind of channeling different
impulses and motivations for the character, all that sort of thing.
So were you a fan of Catherine O'Hara as Moira Rose?
Was that an accurate depiction of a soap opera star?
Speaker 5 (23:21):
I love her? First of all, she's one of now
here's a good little trivia. She was a huge fan
of As the World Turns. When As the World Turns
gave the head writer Douglas Marland the Soap Opera Digest
Award for him, Katherine O'Hara actually did the introduction for
it because she was such a big fan. So she
(23:42):
must have channeled some of her viewership of As the
World Turns to play that role. She's a brilliant actress.
And yes, I mean there's some serious camp you know,
characters camping characters on soaps, but you know, my mine
wasn't one of those, but there are definitely very similar
characters on our show and other shows. She's a genius.
(24:04):
I mean, come on, she's a commedic genius and actress
across the board.
Speaker 2 (24:08):
I love this.
Speaker 1 (24:08):
It comes full circle and Martha Byrne connects the dots
for us there he can follow her on X and
Martha burn that last name spelled b y r N
and the number ten there, Martha, much more serious topic
and subject with regard to your husband and him being
a target of the Biden administration, and it prompting you
to write this book in the interest of justice for
(24:29):
our listeners that are hearing about it for.
Speaker 2 (24:31):
The first time.
Speaker 1 (24:32):
Take us through what happened and when you knew something
was terribly askew.
Speaker 5 (24:38):
So, my husband is a retired NYPD sergeant. He worked
in the Bronx during the height of the worst time
in New York City. He was part of the Street
Crime Unit, which is the hand selected eighty police officers
who really took crime down in Manhattan and the Bronx, Brooklyn,
anywhere under Rugi Giuliani. And he was very prolific. He
(25:01):
earned seventy eight medals while he was on the police department.
And then he was in a severe car accident on
the job during a police chase and had to retire,
which he was so young, and it was really devastating
for him. And then he decided to become a private
investigator and worked for defense attorneys, which he loved, and
he became a highly sought after a private investigator. He
(25:23):
worked for the Vatican, he worked for presidential candidates. He
was very successful. He was really go to PI. He
is very good at it. And in twenty sixteen he
had a routine case a New York based translation company
called her client had alleged that money had been stolen
from his family construction business, which happened to be in China,
(25:46):
but the person who stole the money had fled to
the United States, and he wanted to know where he
was spending the money. He wanted to know if he
had homes and things like that, you know, kind of
get evidence that this man was spending the money. My
husband hired two NYPD retired detectives who were also pi's.
He spoke to two federal agents about this case. In
(26:06):
twenty sixteen. He worked for a couple of days doing
surveillance notify the local police. No very very typical, very
uneventful work. And the people that he was surveilling never
saw him. Nothing. It was a nothing case. He made
a few thousand dollars on the case. And then on
October twenty, twenty twenty, the FBI came to our house
(26:31):
and arrested him for violating the Foreign Agents Registration Act
and interstate stocking. Now there was it was, first of all, shocking,
wouldn't even be the word. I'm still in shock about
all of this. But this is a man who's never
broken the law in his life. He would never ever
(26:54):
ever work for the Chinese government. I mean, give me
a break. I mean, first of all, but nothing in
his life would ever show that. And the FBI in
New Jersey, in the Eastern District of New York, which
is Brooklyn, the prosecutor's office there created a case against
an American and charged him with this, and it was outrageous.
(27:17):
I mean, he had saved everything. He has, every invoice,
he has, every text message. You know, we thought, okay,
we have all the evidence of it, but it must
be a mistake. And then when we said we would
fight back, they doubled down and really went after him
and tried to pressure him and intimidate him. And I mean,
it's Third World tactics that was going on. And you know,
(27:40):
even though my husband was investigated under the Trump administration,
those that FBI during Trump's time, as everybody knows if
you've followed closely, they were spying on Donald Trump. They
were spying on his administration, they were spying on his
transition team. They were getting illegal search ones. They were
doing the same thing to my husband. So when he
(28:02):
was arrested in October twenty twenty twenty and Joe Biden won,
that empowered the Obama appointed judge in our case, and
also the prosecutors who were knew they had free reign
to do anything they wanted, and they were nothing was
going to happen to them, so they went Not only
did they manufacture evidence, they suppressed evidence. I don't know
(28:23):
if your listeners have been following it all about there's
a new story about how the FBI was hiding documents.
They were ghosting documents in you could even access documents,
and in our case, we would get delivery of evidence
like discovery and it would be encrypted and we couldn't
(28:46):
open it. I mean, we would spend hours trying to
open one file, and the government would say, well, we
gave you everything we were obligated to do, and we're
not helping you open those files. So we are in
the pocket of all the corruption and all the dirty
tricks that the administration you know, had done in the
(29:07):
last four years, and they've hit, they hit exculpatory evidence,
and it is really so. We went to trial because
we did nothing wrong, and we were prevented from putting
in our own defense at every turn. We ever won
one ruling in our favor. In four and a half years,
(29:31):
lying to a jury, providing evidence to jury that was
false happened every day. I was shocked. And then he
was found not guilty of the major charge, which was
conspiracy to violate Farah, because the prosecution couldn't prove that
there was any foreign government connection to this case, yet
(29:53):
they charged him with it based on their own whatever
they made up. But he was sound guilty on violating
far which is an administrative it's nonsense. And interstate stocking,
I mean, I'm not sure how you can be charging
suddenly you can find someone guilty of inter state stocking
when the victims, to the alleged victims couldn't identify him
(30:14):
in court, never filed a police report that they saw him,
no pictures of a car, no license plate, no police reports.
Don't protect these people. Never saw my husband they couldn't.
How can you find him guilty of interstate stocking when
the alleged victims have no idea who he is. And
then but here's how it works in the government. So
since they had no evidence, they've brought in something else
(30:37):
that happened at the same location, the same house eighteen
months later, a note was put on the door for
this guy's house, and they charged my husband with that,
which is it's insane, right you go, Okay, wait, my
husband was done with his work in twenty seventeen April.
How can they charge him with something that happened eighteen
months later that he has no connection to. Well, welcome
(30:59):
to the federal government. Related to gentlemen, they will do
they will do anything and get away with everything to win.
Instead of taking out innocent people, they will create cases
around because they know they're.
Speaker 3 (31:14):
Going to win.
Speaker 5 (31:14):
They'll they'll find a tactic to get there. And it's
it's truly outrageous. And two weeks ago when they sentenced,
the judge sentenced my husband to eighteen months in federal
prison for committing no crime. And she said, she more
or less said, yeah, well you didn't really do anything, Okay,
(31:38):
but you have no remorse for the victims. And I
want to tell you something. The victims in this case,
one of the victims, the alleged victims, is a former
Wuhan official who fled China, had stolen one hundred and
twenty seven million dollars. Allegedly he had committed immigration fraud
(31:59):
in the United States. It's proven money laundering, wire fraud,
political campaign fraud in the United States. That is your victim,
ladies and gentlemen. That is who your government protected for
years and years and years have destroyed my family. So
forgive me if my husband's not feeling any remorse when
(32:20):
he did nothing wrong, he would nothing that he did
did anything to them. So here we are. He's supposed
to report on Monday. It is outrageous. And so when
I got this book deal from Post Till Press in
around November of this past year twenty four, they said,
we wanted in six weeks. We want this book in
(32:42):
six weeks, and I said, Okay, I'm going to do
it because I have to do this. The world has
to hear this story, and it's resonating with people. I'm
thrilled that people are feeling the book and I'm getting
great review, which is about about great reviews of my writing.
(33:02):
It's about the feeling of total outrage. But here's the thing.
Now they have a book, but they can see the
tactics and how they get away because people always say,
how did they win ninety nine percent of their cases?
You know, how did they How did they get thirty
four felony counts on Donald Trump?
Speaker 2 (33:20):
How did they do that?
Speaker 5 (33:21):
He didn't commit a crime, So how did they? How
did there was no victim? How did they do that?
How was he convicted? Well, LA's a gentleman. Again, you
read my book, You'll see it. You'll see how they
they manipulate the system and the press orget it. I
mean they're they're complicit in it as well. And it's
it's the truth. And I have evidence in my book
(33:43):
of who did it, who they spoke to, how it worked.
It is truly a playbook on the most corrupt, outrageous,
illegal to attack. Not just listen, it's my husband. He's
a hero. He loves this country. He's put his life
on the line. He's a nine to eleven first responders
he had he was so he is the epitome of
(34:06):
a hero. But this is not just about my husband.
This is about our country, and when the FBI withholds
information that is of a national security concern to all
of us in this country to do their side little
deals and their business with the CCP, that's that's wrong.
And I've exposed all of it, and I've paid. I've
(34:28):
paid a major I've paid a great price for that.
But I'm okay with that because it was necessary. So
I'm thrilled that people are reading it and enjoying it.
And we've had such a great support system in the public,
which is phenomenal.
Speaker 1 (34:41):
The book is in the Interest of Justice, Martha Byrne,
the author.
Speaker 2 (34:44):
You just heard. It just came out.
Speaker 1 (34:46):
It's available on Amazon, and it's especially rich the story
that she tells, the picture that she paints. When you
realize that Diane Feinstein had a Chinese spy in her
midst on her staff for years, it would appear Eric
Swalwell the spy who shagged me, spy at access to.
Speaker 2 (35:01):
Him and at Farah.
Speaker 1 (35:02):
How about Hunter Biden for Foreign Agent Registration Act with China?
No less so this stink. She wrote the book about it,
and Martha would be really curious to see where this goes,
not just with the book, but obviously with your husband,
and we wish you the very best and thank you
so much for taking the time today.
Speaker 2 (35:19):
We'll talk again soon down the line.
Speaker 5 (35:21):
Thank you. If we've put the part in request, that
president has it. Everyone has it in the team. So
we're praying that President Trump pardons him or stops this
before Monday. I know he'd be outraged when he hears
the details of this case because he'll say this exactly
happened to me.
Speaker 2 (35:37):
That's exactly right.
Speaker 1 (35:38):
Martha Burn our guest, and you can follow her once
again on x at Martha Burn b y r n
E Number ten A break. We're wrapping it up after this.
Ryan Shuling Live on a Tuesday. Yeah, but they riot
in LA. They might not be walking, they're setting fires
and all the above. Back with Kelly kuchera Ryan Shooling
(35:59):
Live with you things out. My apologies to George Brockler
who ran out of time. We needed like a four
hour show today and that was my bad, one man band,
the whole thing, you know, the drill. Let's get to
your text five seven seven three nine. Ryan, the Scale's
story is the family story should be in the New
York Post and the Denver Gazette and all the alternative
media to the corrupt left wing media.
Speaker 2 (36:19):
Oh absolutely.
Speaker 1 (36:20):
And that was Martha Byrne, the former soap opera star
for As the World Turns, and she revealed that Moira
Rose Catherine O'Hara herself was a fan of said program,
and Martha got to play not only herself her own character,
but the character's twin, evil twin perhaps interesting. And then
a series of texts here, Ryan, I thought your favorite
(36:42):
shows growing up were Romper Room, Captain Kangaroo, Voltron, ThunderCats,
and twenty one Jump Street, Hit and Misses, all throughout
their boosom buddies, the facts of life. You keep going
this same text, By the way, Florence gen Castleberry, Polly Holiday,
flow On, Alice, kiss my grits. If somebody's into the
sauce a little bit early, but it's five o'clock somewhere,
(37:03):
share with me.
Speaker 2 (37:04):
The only thing I asked, are you jealous that I
was on Romper Room?
Speaker 1 (37:08):
I know that you were, and we'll save that story
for tomorrow. Maybe George Brockler too. Again, my apologies to
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