April 21, 2025 • 37 mins
Remembering Pope Francis (1936-2025) on the day of his passing, Ryan reflects on the most progressive pontiff in the history of the Catholic Church and his impact on world events.
Shannon shares his past interactions with both ABC News reporter Alex Stone, formerly of KOA, and legendary KOA talk show host Alan Berg - who was murdered in cold blood by white supremacists in his driveway over 40 years ago, a brutal tragedy portrayed in last year's film 'The Order.'
Shannon shares his past interactions with both ABC News reporter Alex Stone, formerly of KOA, and legendary KOA talk show host Alan Berg - who was murdered in cold blood by white supremacists in his driveway over 40 years ago, a brutal tragedy portrayed in last year's film 'The Order.'
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
From ABC News. I'm Alex Stone. Pope Francis has died.
The eighty eight year old had been hospitalized in Rome,
the Vatican announcing his passing. The Pope had had several
health problems in recent years. In April of twenty twenty three,
he spent three days in the hospital for what the
Vatican said was bronchitis, and in late November twenty twenty three,
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he was forced to cancel some of his events and
an international trip because of breathing problems.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
His Holiness, Pope.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
Francis was a two hundred and sixty sixth leader of
the Roman Catholic Church.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
I bless each one a few from my art.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
Born Jorge Mario Burgoglio and Buenos Aires, Argentina, Pope Francis
dedicated his life to serving others with unwavering compassion and humility.
Throughout his papacy, he inspired millions around the globe with
his commitment to social justice, interfaith dialogue, and care for
the marginalized and oppressed. His papacy was marked by many,
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first from his groundbreak king election as a first Jesuit
pope to his head on approach to church challenges. He
became known as a reformer, taking on Vatican bureaucracy and
addressing the clergy abuse crisis. He ushered in progressive views
on many issues, from gay rights to climate change. His
bold and compassionate leadership style earned him admiration and respect
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from both within and outside the Catholic community.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
Despite facing health.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
Challenges in his later years, Pope Francis remained steadfast in
his mission, tirelessly advocating for peace, unity, and the dignity
of every human being. In the coming days, now, the
Vatican will follow an old fashioned and historic process. We'll
soon learn details for a funeral, which traditionally take place
in four to six days. The Vatican will enter a
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period of interregnum, which means there is no pope. During
this time, Cardinals across the world will begin traveling to
Rome to participate in a conclave. After a nine day
morning period, the process to elect a new pope will begin.
One final thought now from Pope Francis himself, speaking at
ABC town Hall in twenty fifteen on his hope for
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us and for the future.
Speaker 3 (02:08):
The world has to have a greater consciousness of the
fact that exploitation of one another is not the path
We are all created for friendship in society. All of
us very responsibilities for everyone else. No one can say
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this is as far as my responsibility goes. We are
all responsible for everyone to help each other out as
best we can. Friendship in society, that's what God created
us for. I pray for you all, for all the
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people of the United States, and I asked you please
to pray for me.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
Pope Francis in his own words, I'm Alec Stone, EBC News.
Speaker 4 (03:04):
Pope Francis passing away at the age of eighty eight,
and many people may find it to be appropriate that
it was in the wake of Easter weekend, and Samuel
j Aquilla, he is the archbishop for the Denver Archdiocese,
were fortunate enough to be joined by him during the
Dan Kaplis Show. Later on today, Weld County Sheriff Steve
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Reams will be filling in and conducting that interview and
you can tune in for it at four thirty six
pm to get the archbishop's takes on the passing of
the pontiff. My personal feelings about Francis may echo those
that have observed him over the years, and that there's
no denying and I think even his most ardent supporters
would say he was the most progressive pope to ever
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hold that position. In my lifetime, there haven't been many
of these popes. John Paul the Second for a vast
majority of my lifetime was the pope, and that is
the one that I will always remember. I'm not Catholic,
but he was a tremendous transformational figure. He is now
a saint, and he, of course John Paul the Second
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came right here to the Cherry Creek Reservoir some years
ago and held a very historic gathering there. Francis took
stances on issues politically that personally I felt we're not appropriate,
But that's just my opinion, and whether or not this
is what I always do.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
I applied the law of the Boy Scouts when you go.
Speaker 4 (04:30):
Camping is did you leave the area better than when
you found it? Is the Catholic Church in a stronger
position now than when Pope Francis found it? If you're Catholic, especially,
I want to hear from you and get your opinion
on this matter. At five seven seven three nine. Appreciate
you tuning in and appreciate you joining into the conversation
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via text, and you can start those Ryan again at
five seven, seven, three nine now talking to Shannon Scott.
That a trite connection. It's re established and it's electric
on the other side of the glass. You remembered a
time because you've been here since the Stone Age. Then
Alex Stone worked in this very building. It's one of
the reasons I chose that particular selection. Did a phenomenal
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job with it. But I know Kathy Walker very fond
of Alex Stone during his time here in Denver. And
you said that that was roughly twenty odd years ago,
around nine to eleven. He was here for just a
few years that, right, Shannon, Correct.
Speaker 5 (05:25):
He actually used to in addition to being a reporter
here on the street, he hosted our Saturday version of
the Monday through Friday Colorado's Morning News on KOWA.
Speaker 4 (05:36):
And that's no longer done though, right correct. Okay, is
there anything that stood out to you about Alex during
his time here and interactions? Any stories you might.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
Have for his age?
Speaker 5 (05:46):
And he was a teenager when he started WOW, and
I don't entirely recall his background. I would have to
put him in the flawless category. He nailed almost every
time he was on the air.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
No mistake. Yeah, very precise. You can tell with his language.
Speaker 4 (06:03):
I've had the opportunity to go back and forth with
Alex a few times during our special election night coverage
over on KLA and Yeah, he's just a total prose
pro and they he proved it once again with that
very nice tribute to Pope Francis So five seven, seven
three nine if you want to turn in those texts
and again.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
The Archbishop Samuel j.
Speaker 4 (06:20):
Aquilla from the Denver Archdiocese will be joining World County
Sheriff Steve Reams in for dan CAplus later on this afternoon,
a little over two hours from now at four point
thirty six pm. We're so honored to have the Archbishop
join us because we know his time is of the
essence on this very important and impactful day in the
Catholic Church, both here locally and worldwide. Seven three nine
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of those texts. A couple of texts here I think
I got from filling in earlier on the Ross Kaminski show.
I'm running on pure kerosene right now. This is about
jury duty, which Ross was summoned to do, and that's
why I was filling in for him on a Monday
this extra got called for federal jury duty and had
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to go through Vaudir for a gun case that was
potentially multiple months long. The prosecutors decided to dismiss me
as soon as I said I was a Second Amendment absolutist.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
Okay, fair enough for bonus points.
Speaker 4 (07:19):
This Texter adds I slipped in a mention about jury nullification.
You know, whenever anybody mentions this, I immediately think back
to the film Runaway Jury with Gene Hackman in it.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
It's a really fascinating film.
Speaker 4 (07:33):
John cusacks in it, Dustin Hoffman is in it, tremendous cast,
very interesting film. I want to ask Christian Tode about
that one too, But yeah, that has a lot of
twists and turns. I don't think that our Texter was
quite going that far in that direction. But the only
jury I ever have served on, because I think it's
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because I've moved around so much, I've been very nomadic.
My people on the Serbian side, very gypsy like Morat
tried to gather our teers, that's how valuable those were.
But I really lived that lifestyle, bouncing from destination to destination,
holding several jobs. In fact, fun fact, I don't know
how fun this is. This stop in my career is
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the longest of my career, from twenty eighteen to the present,
right here at Iheartdever, it's especially shocking when you consider
how much change and turnover there has been in this industry,
the technology, the personnel over these last several years in
the wake of COVID. So I'm really stunned by that.
And then again, like I said, there's people like Shannon
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Scott who have survived the nuclear holocaust of not only radio,
but I think in general, how have you survived in
this business?
Speaker 2 (08:44):
As long as you have, Shannon what you.
Speaker 5 (08:46):
See lack of ambition and marketable skills.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
That's fair enough.
Speaker 4 (08:53):
But there's a reason why Dan Cappus calls him the
icon He literally he's iconic, and he's been here. You've
been here as long as this group has been in
this building?
Speaker 2 (09:03):
Is that true?
Speaker 5 (09:03):
Oh? Before before the thirty years now, now I started
where the old station was, what was that location? We
had a couple of locations. We had our KOA was
with KA z Y and some other stations down next
to the DCPA on a rapa Ho road. Yeah, right,
and then we k how with what was it what
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is now the Party or something like that? In ninety
five to seven was it Yosemite and Hampton? So while
it was J Cory, they bought Noble, which had k
HOW and KBCO and then joined us all together. So
we were in three locations for a while, including Boulder.
Speaker 4 (09:47):
Now I'm going way back here because I just saw
the film The Order in which Mark Marin portrays Alan Berg,
and that story was six thirty K if you're not
familiar with it, a tragic one. He was gunned down
by white supremacist in his driveway and that's portrayed in
the movie.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
That scene as well.
Speaker 4 (10:06):
Is that where he would have worked or would have
been a previous location to that one that you just said.
Speaker 5 (10:09):
Previous location of that that might have been in conjunction
with Channel four because it was koa TV and a radio.
Speaker 4 (10:18):
Wow, all these changes history, lesson time, gather around children.
Speaker 5 (10:23):
Well, my family knew alan Berg very well. He used
to do our restaurant all the time. And the last
thing I said to him, about a week before he died,
he asked, Hey, Shannon, what do you think of something something?
And not as a teenager, I said, I'm not paid
to think.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
Wait a minute, you still say that on a regular basis.
Speaker 5 (10:43):
I don't say it, I.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
Just prove it.
Speaker 4 (10:48):
Oh, I appreciate that walk down memory Lane. But if
you haven't seen the order, I would it's a good
Have you seen it, Shannon, that film you've not? Okay, well,
I think you might appreciate it now, Alan Berg, A
portion of that film is incidental to the overall plot,
but it's it's in a very important plot point in
the whole telling of that story. It's mostly I think,
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based on a true story, and Jude Law stars in
it and he's he's exceptional in it. So that's just
my personal recommendation. There seven, three, nine those texts you
can send them along. Coming up in our number two,
we are jam packed and Wired for sound. Jennifer say
xx x y athletics my conversation with her, and then
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the President of the United States, Donald Trump, will joined
me in our number two.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
Wink and a nod and a chuckle right there.
Speaker 4 (11:41):
But one of the things that we'll talk to the
President about over the weekend. I'm watching now on Will
Caine and he does an outstanding job. He is taking
the time slot on Fox News from Neil Cavudo, I think,
much to the delight of our own Kelly Cacerra, because
Neil he didn't like me very much, Okay, and Will Caine.
But I think Will is an exceptionally hard worker and
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he has earned that opportunity. I think he's very informative, entertaining, knowledgeable, smart,
and he's a great interviewer. And what he's getting, what
I'm noticing, isn't that time slot. Although I would say
Will politically is very much aligned with yours truly and
probably you in the listening audience, and definitely Shannon. He's
getting a lot of Democrats to come on his program,
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which credit to him for that. But four of them,
four House Dems. Guess where they are right now? El
Salvador for Kilar abrago Garcia, I don't understand this.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
Now.
Speaker 4 (12:38):
If this was an abuela, a grandmother, or somebody that
was a much more sympathetic figure, then kill Maar abrago Garcia.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
I could see kind of the political hay to be made.
Speaker 4 (12:53):
But this is such a law of diminishing returns. The
more we find out about abrago Garcia, the less sympathetic
figure he is. I don't compute with the reasoning, the
logic behind this whole due process thing. And this was
part of a key exchange between Jonathan carl who I
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think was filling in for George Stephanopolis and only occasionally
hosts that show anymore on ABC on Sundays. He was
kind of sparring with Tom Holman about Van Holland's or
rather Garcia status, Senator Van Holland going down to visit him,
and that's what brought this to the forefront in the news,
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and Homan did an excellent job of pushing back in
a very informed way about who this person was.
Speaker 2 (13:41):
Let's go to one of those exchanges here.
Speaker 6 (13:43):
He says that he has done this because it's the
issue here is due process, Bean Holand, and it's following
a court order that the you know, the Supreme Court
has said that the administration needs to facilitate his return
so we can get through have his chance at due
pros I think.
Speaker 7 (14:01):
And I understand the facilitate, but he's also in the custody.
He's a citizen and national country Al Salvador salf Salvador
would certainly have to cooperate in that. But again I'm
on the hoop on that I'm not an attorney. I'm
not mitigating this case. We'll do whatever the you know,
the law says we have to do and what I think.
I stand by the fact. I think we did the
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right thing here. We removed the public safety threat, a
national security threat, a violent game member for the United
States ICE Intelligence says MS thirteen game member. Content Performance
says he's MS thirteen game member. The country of Al
Salvador says he's an MS thirteen game member. I think
he's exactly where he should be.
Speaker 4 (14:39):
He is exactly where he should be. He is a
citizen of Il Salvador and not the United States. I
don't understand this. The whole argument for me falls apart,
and it ends right there. I wish I could have
John Fabricatory on. He is preparing for a Trump appointed position,
and I get it he doesn't want to kind of
get his hands dirty with commentary on a show like this.
Speaker 2 (14:59):
But I'm going to this argument about due process.
Speaker 4 (15:04):
As far as I've been able to research and correct
me if I'm wrong, If you're out there in the
listening audience, you have information otherwise. But what I've been
able to gather is that there was an order for
deportation for this individual, Kilmar Abrigo Garcia in twenty nineteen
that the matter had been adjudicated, his asylum claim had
been denied, and he was marked for deportation, but never departed.
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He slipped through the cracks. He entered this country illegally.
He is not an American citizen. But we're supposed to
extend these constitutional rights to non citizens citizens of the world.
This is the slippery slope and what's the gray area?
I always look to argue this and where on the
spectrum do you have to be to garner United States
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constitutional rights meant for citizens? What Jonathan carl sites is
a decision I think was nineteen ninety three in which
Antonin Scalia wrote the majority opinion that said aliens in
this country are conferred upon with constitutional rights, which I
don't disagree often with one of the lion of the
Supreme Court, Antonin Scalia. But what I would have pushed
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back on is, well, wait a minute, what if somebody
came into this country legally as a tourist. I've made
this argument in the past. We know they're here, they're
here legally, but they have a passport, they're a citizen.
Of a different country, and when you enter the United States,
just like when I go into Canada, how long are
you gonna be here? I'm here for a week, I'm
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going fishing. Well, if you're there over a week, then
what what if somebody comes here there is that I'm
not gonna I'm not gonna go back.
Speaker 2 (16:36):
I'm just gonna stay.
Speaker 4 (16:37):
So as a British national, as a Japanese national is
a Kenya national, is a Saudi national who comes here
on vacation just decides to stay, did they automatically just
get us constitutional rights for the duration of their illegal
stay here, even though they entered the country legally as
a tourist with a passport. That's a to me, that's
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a stronger argument, and it sounds ridiculous because it is so.
Kilmar Abrago Garcia did not make any effort to establish
himself with legal status in this country to become an
American citizen.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
He crossed the border illegally. Game over. That's it. It's over.
Speaker 4 (17:16):
I don't see the claim about one keeping him here,
two returning him here.
Speaker 2 (17:21):
He is not a citizen.
Speaker 4 (17:23):
If he wanted that kind of stability security, then come
into the country legally go through the process become an
American citizen. In that ceremony, you pledge allegiance to the
flag of the United States of America.
Speaker 2 (17:37):
That's important. That's important.
Speaker 4 (17:40):
If you're not willing, or you're too lazy, or you
don't want to bother with going through that process, then
why should we bother protecting you with constitutional rights?
Speaker 2 (17:49):
And again the Pandora's box.
Speaker 4 (17:50):
If just anybody who walks into the country, you'd get
constitutional rights and we can't kick you out?
Speaker 2 (17:55):
What the hell is that that is?
Speaker 4 (17:58):
A country without borders is not a nation. We have
a right to enforce our borders and determine who we
want here and who we don't. And if you do
not have authorization, validation, documentation to be here, you don't
have a right to be here. I don't think that's
a controversial thing to say. But the Libs, the left,
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Jonathan Carl, the Democrats, Senator Van Holand are losing their
minds over this guy and for what to what end?
Speaker 2 (18:27):
What he deserves due process?
Speaker 4 (18:29):
Do you know how any people came into this country
illegally during Joe Biden's awful tenure as president. It's at
least eleven million, so what you're telling me, then, is
we need to adjudicate each and every one of those
individuals eleven million court cases for a hearing before a judge.
Speaker 2 (18:47):
Are you nuts?
Speaker 4 (18:50):
These people did not come into this country, a lot
of those with any kind of intent to show up
for an adjudication hearing for asylum claims, and we're just
supposed to bend over back words to accommodate them. How
about no, do you have a different opinion? Five seven
seven thirty nine if you agree? And again, the people
that degree that most strongly with me are legal immigrants,
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legal immigrants who did.
Speaker 2 (19:12):
It the right way. And I'd be mad too. A
time out. We're back with more Ryan schuling live after this.
You know what a big.
Speaker 8 (19:23):
Surprise that a bunch of a few leaders get fired
and suddenly a bunch of hit pieces come out from
the same media that pedaled the Russia hopes won't get
back their Pulitzers.
Speaker 9 (19:34):
They got Pultzers for a bunch of lies, Pultzers for
a bunch of lies on hoaxes, time and time and
time again. And as they pedal those lies, no one
ever calls them on.
Speaker 2 (19:46):
See this is what the media does.
Speaker 9 (19:48):
They take anonymous sources from disgruntled former employees. I mean
they try to slash and burn people and ruin their reputations,
not going to work with me because we're changing the
Defense apartment, putting the pedagon back in the hands of
war fighters, and anonymous smears from disgruntled former employees on
old news doesn't matter.
Speaker 2 (20:08):
So I'm happy to be.
Speaker 9 (20:09):
Here at the East regg Roll with my dad, my kids,
because you know, this is what we're doing it for,
these kids right here. This is why we're fighting the
fake news media. This is why we're fighting slash and
burned Democrats. This is why we're fighting posters, posters.
Speaker 2 (20:25):
This group, no, no, this group.
Speaker 8 (20:26):
Right here full of hoasters, the pedal, anonymous sources from
leakers with access to grind and then yes.
Speaker 2 (20:34):
Put it all together as if it's some news story
and what we know, you know exactly what it is.
Speaker 9 (20:40):
So I'm really proud of what we're doing for the president,
fighting hard across the board, and I'm going.
Speaker 2 (20:45):
To go roll some East Eggs with my kids. Thank
you very much. This is quite a scene.
Speaker 4 (20:50):
And I just saw up on the Fox News display
with Will Caine there, Donald Trump was bragging about the
fact the East.
Speaker 10 (20:57):
Of Bunny is not taking me out like you took
a Joe Biden last year.
Speaker 4 (21:02):
See you're on the White House lawn. You got jazz music.
You could hear that in the background. You got the
Easter egg roll coming up. You got Pete hegg Seth,
Secretary of Defense, firing back at anonymous sources. Anonymous sources
reports that he looped family members in on this signaled chat.
You remember this controversy from a month or so ago
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on the attacks against the Hoothy rebels. But I thought
Secretary heg Seth handled that well. The mainstream media all
they're trying to run with and I look right over
at CNN, it say source Trump spoke last night with him,
battled Defense Secretary heg Seth, and they got a National
Security and politics politics correspondent Natasha Bertrand on there.
Speaker 2 (21:45):
They are trying to pour gret Keurrosy on this fire.
But it just isn't going to work.
Speaker 4 (21:51):
Heg Seth is resolute, and Donald Trump was asked about
this and here was his response.
Speaker 11 (21:56):
Wait, and I hear they doing that whole same thing again.
Speaker 2 (21:59):
Here we go again. It's just a waste of time.
Even he is doing.
Speaker 11 (22:03):
He is doing a great job. Because he's doing a
great job. Thanks you ask ask the hoodies how he's doing.
Ask the hoodies how much this function is on. Pete's
doing a great job. Everybody's happy with him. We have
the highest recruitment recruitment numbers I think they've had in
twenty eight years. No, he's doing a great job. It's
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just fake news. They just bring up stories. I guess
it sounds like this grunt old employees. You know, he
was sput there to get rid of a lot of bad.
Speaker 2 (22:32):
People, and that's what he's doing. So you don't always
have friends when you do that.
Speaker 4 (22:37):
President Trump having secretary heg Seth's back right there earlier
today and the President will join us in about an
hour to offer his commentary on this, on the Easter
Bunny and maybe even on this, because when he was
done with that comment he went right back to coloring
and a coloring book with a bunch.
Speaker 2 (22:55):
Of kids that were there for Easter.
Speaker 11 (23:02):
I'm really into Resident, No, I'm really into this, and
it's stuffed out. We don't have a white craan.
Speaker 2 (23:08):
What am I gonna do to leave it?
Speaker 7 (23:09):
What I.
Speaker 9 (23:11):
Lead?
Speaker 11 (23:11):
The whole thing white Okay, smile up their kids.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
It's tough.
Speaker 10 (23:18):
We don't have a white cran, and even if we did,
if we used it, people would.
Speaker 2 (23:21):
Say we're racist. I mean, I only have the twelve crans.
Speaker 10 (23:28):
When I was little, I had the sixty four crans
with a sharpener in the back. You remember Crayola, it
was great, Burnt Sienna, great color.
Speaker 4 (23:39):
This guy, he doesn't miss a trick, and he's hilarious.
And even they're sitting there coloring with kids, he's having
a good time. You could tell he enjoyed their company.
They were thrilled to be sitting there with the president
of United States. They're coloring Easter eggs, they're coloring coloring books.
He points overs.
Speaker 2 (23:56):
You know who that is. That's the first lady Milania.
She's beautiful, isn't she.
Speaker 4 (24:01):
Ed. I just I love this whole scene and I
can't wait to talk to him about it. Coming up
in our number two, let's get some texts. Five seven, seven,
three nine. This from Steven Little to the retire law
enforcement officer, and Steve has always thank you for your
service in that regard the dem insanity over this TDA
to Portia where he's MS thirteen but you know potato pataddle.
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Either one by is just Trump arrangement on display. Steve,
you're right, and it's they're falling into this trap. You
know who's not. And it's a little concerning because Patrick
Bateman he scares me. American psycho portrayed by Christian Bale,
also known as Gavin Newsom. Let's slick back here the
weird idiosyncratic thumb movement.
Speaker 2 (24:43):
You ever see him do that?
Speaker 4 (24:44):
Channel or he's like doing this thing with the thumb
up and down, like we gotta get him going. And
he goes on with Bill Maher and he he has
Charlie Kirk, he has the band on his own podcast.
He's trying to distance himself from the lunatic fringe left
now I think he he's either with them. The best explanation,
the kindest one I can offer, is that Gavin Newsom
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is a complete chameleon. He's apolitical, he doesn't really believe
any of this stuff. But he knew in California he
had to be crazy, he had to get a little nuts.
So being the psychopathic, narcissistic personality that he is, he
had to adapt.
Speaker 2 (25:21):
He to adapt his whole personality. He to adapt his
whole belief system. He doesn't stand for anything. There are
any principles there. He's just what will.
Speaker 4 (25:29):
Win in California and how do I get to the
finish line.
Speaker 2 (25:32):
Okay, he's done with that. Two terms of his governor.
Now he wants to run for president.
Speaker 4 (25:36):
Now suddenly he's like, oh, trans and sports thing, it's
not good, it's not fair. What Wait a minute. If
you thought that, why do you do something about it?
Why didn't you speak out against it? Why didn't you
stand up to your own party. He's a coward. I mean,
there's a lot of similarities when you think about it
between Gavin Newsom and Jared Poulis. Jared Poulis is a
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complete narcissist, completely in it for his own self preservation
political motives, does not care a whit about the people
who's supposed to serve by whom he was elected. Eh,
those are pans, they're below me. Those are the riff raff.
Get out of here.
Speaker 2 (26:18):
I want to I want to be among the monkey MUCKs.
But they're both of that same vein.
Speaker 4 (26:24):
This is what really disoriented me about paul Is signing
this gun bill. I mean, my goodness, when Gavin Newsom
can outflank you.
Speaker 2 (26:33):
To the right on that issue.
Speaker 4 (26:35):
And then and then we have this House Bill twenty
five thirteen twelve, lingering like a bad odor going from
the House over to the Senate. Those Senate Democrats like
Jeff Bridges, the dude, my own senator, good guy, good
guy he gets along with Barb Kirkmeyer. They're for unfriendly terms.
I think you know many moons ago. Jeff Bridges, if
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he was my senator, he's Democratic, he's okay, you know,
center left Democrat, but he doesn't stand up to the
radical lunatic fringe in his own party, going whoa, whoa, whoa,
pumped the break.
Speaker 2 (27:08):
No, no, we're not doing that.
Speaker 4 (27:11):
But he's definitely afraid of this coming up for a
vote along with I gotta say a lot of Democrats
that the scuttle butt I'm getting is from the Senate
in the General Assembly, they want no part of this radioactive,
toxic kryptonite thirteen twelve bill.
Speaker 2 (27:28):
Because what does it do.
Speaker 4 (27:30):
All it does is it reaffirms your far left lunatic
base and it satiates them, but it alienates everybody else,
including the center left voters that are instrumental in this state,
the median voter, in my view, in my analysis looking
at the math, the median voter. So the person that's
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right in the middle that determines the elections is an unaffiliated,
probably center left person. They're probably pro choice on abortion
and they're probably pro marijuana.
Speaker 2 (28:03):
So when they default to the voting.
Speaker 4 (28:05):
Booth and there's no booth anymore, it's by mail, which
that's a totally different thing that I disagree with, but anyway,
play it forward, their default position is to vote Democrat.
But the more crazy town stuff like this the Democrats do,
I think, the more accessible that kind of center left,
unaffiliated person who has never considered voting Republican before, maybe
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hasn't even been approached by Republican candidates. This is where
Greg Lopez says, I'm going to talk to these people
as we should get them to coalesce around issues like
this that are eighty twenty. And the Democrats all of
a sudden, the calculus for them, it changes, it degrades,
it diminishes, and I think a smart Democrat in this
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state is going to realize that. But what are they doing?
They're silent on this issue. You know why, I'm going
to tell you why they are terrified of their left flank.
They are terrified of the Bernie Aoc wing of the party,
of the burning up the Tesla's part of the party,
but that's okay, of the pro assassination Luis G. Mangioni
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loving anti Elon Musk.
Speaker 2 (29:13):
Wing of their party.
Speaker 4 (29:15):
They cannot afford, at least they don't think so to
stand up to these people the way that Bill Maher
has and he's taking heat for it, and the way
that Gavin Newsom apparently is trying to do. That's what
makes this so fascinating for me is these are losers.
Speaker 2 (29:32):
These are lead balloons. They're floating out there.
Speaker 4 (29:35):
And Trump scores a lot of points today just optically
looking at that. He's robust, he's engaging with the media,
he's combative, he's kind to the children who are loving
being there.
Speaker 2 (29:46):
He's got melodia on.
Speaker 4 (29:47):
His arm right down the way, also coloring and coloring
books with kids. These things, these kind of photos matter.
As Dan Bongino always said, snapshots and sound bites. And
you just you heard the SoundBite and you can see
the snapshots that I'm describing if you look online and
search for those, get some more of your texts and
finish out hour number one. When we come back, send
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Speaker 2 (32:37):
Some texts to wrap up our.
Speaker 4 (32:40):
Number one heading into halftime of today's program on Monday
edition IF twenty one, twenty twenty five with Shannon Scott.
Speaker 2 (32:47):
I'm Ryan Shuling. Listen to those texts right now, Ryan.
Speaker 4 (32:51):
My wife was called for jury duty some years ago
and was quite eager to participate. As she stood in
line to check in outside the building, she turned to
them behind her and enthusiastically asked him, are you here
for jury duty?
Speaker 2 (33:04):
Two.
Speaker 4 (33:04):
He simply glared at her and replied a gruff no.
This is when she noticed the handcuffs on his wrists
and the policeman holding his arm escorting him. She quickly
turned back around. Yeah, that might have been the very
case that she would have been called to be on
the jury.
Speaker 5 (33:19):
Four.
Speaker 4 (33:20):
No, probably not, but would have been funny if for us.
Eric Manning always got to edit these. They're very r rated,
but he's funny and he's a great guy.
Speaker 2 (33:29):
Ryan.
Speaker 4 (33:29):
What's so insanely crazy is that now the Democrats and
the Supreme Court want the Trump administration to vet all
of these illegal aliens leaving.
Speaker 2 (33:36):
Our country, but they sure.
Speaker 4 (33:38):
Didn't vet the millions of them illegal aliens coming into
the country. Wow, that's double bs. Eric, you are right
the door opening in either direction. You're absolutely correct the
other part of that too. There were massive deportations under
Bill Clinton. He bragged about them. Hillary Clinton campaigned on
them in two thousand and eight. I was there, I
remember it. I don't have amnesia. I didn't have brain injury.
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Barack Obama, there are deportations on his watch. There were
deportations on President George W. Bush's watch.
Speaker 2 (34:09):
Marry a court challenge among them? Why not? Even though
why not?
Speaker 4 (34:14):
Trump has been a target of politically motivated judges, the
ego judge shopping to the most liberal circuits in the country.
And they are willing in the name of stopping the orangeman,
because that's a higher calling, that's a biblical calling. Although
they don't believe in the Bible, most of these people,
but they believe this is their higher purpose, is to
stop Donald Trump by any means necessary. Is the reason
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why what is it? A third at least of those
Democrats pulled or like.
Speaker 12 (34:39):
Well, Trump kind of had the assassination attempt coming and
if they would, if Thomas Crooks would have been successful, well,
my god.
Speaker 4 (34:51):
As much as I despise Joe Biden, for sure, Hillary Clinton,
and I came to despise and be very disappointed Barack Obama.
Never would I ever root for that individual's assassination, tolerate it,
condone it, encourage it. That's madness. There are so many
in the left that have lost their blanking minds. They
have no sense of humanity, no guardrails, no restrictions on
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any behavior. The end justifies the means for them. That's
scary thinking. That's extremist thinking. And it's coming almost entirely
from the left now much no matter how much they
project or gaslight. Oh, the bigness threat to American society
right now is a white supremacy.
Speaker 2 (35:33):
Where where do you see this? Where is it? Point
it out?
Speaker 4 (35:37):
And these so called white supremacists are allegedly on the
same side of the political eyle as me. Nobody goes
to more like Republican functions than I do. I don't
see them unless you're saying, of course that I am one,
which okay, whatever, We're not even having a conversation that point.
Speaker 2 (35:52):
That's ridiculous and stupid Ryan.
Speaker 4 (35:55):
Nice thing is Trump wasn't sniffing any kid's hair. No,
but I was smelling the kranska, and I was hoping
that they would be like remember those markers and the
blue ones smelled like blueberries. Okay, I was hoping, and
the krans didn't smell. He was coloring with the kids, though.
Speaker 2 (36:12):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (36:12):
Hello, I am curious why you are okay with Trump
changing his mind over the years on issues such as
abortion and electric vehicles. But a polist er knew him
change their stance or something. You're all over them. I
think that's a fair minded question. But I think it's uh.
You air on the premise, which is Trump's journey on
being pro life has been over many, many, many years.
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He was the first president to attend in person the
March for Life. Ronald Reagan and George W. Bush simply
phoned it in literally. Trump has put his money where
his mouth is on that issue. He loves babies, Okay,
I want lots of big, healthy, beautiful babies. He's not
a fan of abortion. He's a moderate on the issue.
It's not like he's come all the way over he
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is for the exceptions. He's expressed that in the debate
a rape incests life of the mother. He's about where
I am on the issue, But like me, I think
he wants as few as possible and to avoid them
if it's preventable. So I appreciate what you're saying, but
the police knew some pivots on certain issues like meetout Day,
just for instance, for Jared Polis that was so unpopular.
Wait a minute, I'm a grow master myself. I make
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a lot of burgers. Come on, that's not authentic. A
break and we're back, Jennifer say xx xy athletics after
this
From ABC News. I'm Alex Stone. Pope Francis has died.
The eighty eight year old had been hospitalized in Rome,
the Vatican announcing his passing. The Pope had had several
health problems in recent years. In April of twenty twenty three,
he spent three days in the hospital for what the
Vatican said was bronchitis, and in late November twenty twenty three,
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he was forced to cancel some of his events and
an international trip because of breathing problems.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
His Holiness, Pope.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
Francis was a two hundred and sixty sixth leader of
the Roman Catholic Church.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
I bless each one a few from my art.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
Born Jorge Mario Burgoglio and Buenos Aires, Argentina, Pope Francis
dedicated his life to serving others with unwavering compassion and humility.
Throughout his papacy, he inspired millions around the globe with
his commitment to social justice, interfaith dialogue, and care for
the marginalized and oppressed. His papacy was marked by many,
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first from his groundbreak king election as a first Jesuit
pope to his head on approach to church challenges. He
became known as a reformer, taking on Vatican bureaucracy and
addressing the clergy abuse crisis. He ushered in progressive views
on many issues, from gay rights to climate change. His
bold and compassionate leadership style earned him admiration and respect
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from both within and outside the Catholic community.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
Despite facing health.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
Challenges in his later years, Pope Francis remained steadfast in
his mission, tirelessly advocating for peace, unity, and the dignity
of every human being. In the coming days, now, the
Vatican will follow an old fashioned and historic process. We'll
soon learn details for a funeral, which traditionally take place
in four to six days. The Vatican will enter a
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period of interregnum, which means there is no pope. During
this time, Cardinals across the world will begin traveling to
Rome to participate in a conclave. After a nine day
morning period, the process to elect a new pope will begin.
One final thought now from Pope Francis himself, speaking at
ABC town Hall in twenty fifteen on his hope for
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us and for the future.
Speaker 3 (02:08):
The world has to have a greater consciousness of the
fact that exploitation of one another is not the path
We are all created for friendship in society. All of
us very responsibilities for everyone else. No one can say
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this is as far as my responsibility goes. We are
all responsible for everyone to help each other out as
best we can. Friendship in society, that's what God created
us for. I pray for you all, for all the
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people of the United States, and I asked you please
to pray for me.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
Pope Francis in his own words, I'm Alec Stone, EBC News.
Speaker 4 (03:04):
Pope Francis passing away at the age of eighty eight,
and many people may find it to be appropriate that
it was in the wake of Easter weekend, and Samuel
j Aquilla, he is the archbishop for the Denver Archdiocese,
were fortunate enough to be joined by him during the
Dan Kaplis Show. Later on today, Weld County Sheriff Steve
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Reams will be filling in and conducting that interview and
you can tune in for it at four thirty six
pm to get the archbishop's takes on the passing of
the pontiff. My personal feelings about Francis may echo those
that have observed him over the years, and that there's
no denying and I think even his most ardent supporters
would say he was the most progressive pope to ever
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hold that position. In my lifetime, there haven't been many
of these popes. John Paul the Second for a vast
majority of my lifetime was the pope, and that is
the one that I will always remember. I'm not Catholic,
but he was a tremendous transformational figure. He is now
a saint, and he, of course John Paul the Second
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came right here to the Cherry Creek Reservoir some years
ago and held a very historic gathering there. Francis took
stances on issues politically that personally I felt we're not appropriate,
But that's just my opinion, and whether or not this
is what I always do.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
I applied the law of the Boy Scouts when you go.
Speaker 4 (04:30):
Camping is did you leave the area better than when
you found it? Is the Catholic Church in a stronger
position now than when Pope Francis found it? If you're Catholic, especially,
I want to hear from you and get your opinion
on this matter. At five seven seven three nine. Appreciate
you tuning in and appreciate you joining into the conversation
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via text, and you can start those Ryan again at
five seven, seven, three nine now talking to Shannon Scott.
That a trite connection. It's re established and it's electric
on the other side of the glass. You remembered a
time because you've been here since the Stone Age. Then
Alex Stone worked in this very building. It's one of
the reasons I chose that particular selection. Did a phenomenal
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job with it. But I know Kathy Walker very fond
of Alex Stone during his time here in Denver. And
you said that that was roughly twenty odd years ago,
around nine to eleven. He was here for just a
few years that, right, Shannon, Correct.
Speaker 5 (05:25):
He actually used to in addition to being a reporter
here on the street, he hosted our Saturday version of
the Monday through Friday Colorado's Morning News on KOWA.
Speaker 4 (05:36):
And that's no longer done though, right correct. Okay, is
there anything that stood out to you about Alex during
his time here and interactions? Any stories you might.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
Have for his age?
Speaker 5 (05:46):
And he was a teenager when he started WOW, and
I don't entirely recall his background. I would have to
put him in the flawless category. He nailed almost every
time he was on the air.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
No mistake. Yeah, very precise. You can tell with his language.
Speaker 4 (06:03):
I've had the opportunity to go back and forth with
Alex a few times during our special election night coverage
over on KLA and Yeah, he's just a total prose
pro and they he proved it once again with that
very nice tribute to Pope Francis So five seven, seven
three nine if you want to turn in those texts
and again.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
The Archbishop Samuel j.
Speaker 4 (06:20):
Aquilla from the Denver Archdiocese will be joining World County
Sheriff Steve Reams in for dan CAplus later on this afternoon,
a little over two hours from now at four point
thirty six pm. We're so honored to have the Archbishop
join us because we know his time is of the
essence on this very important and impactful day in the
Catholic Church, both here locally and worldwide. Seven three nine
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of those texts. A couple of texts here I think
I got from filling in earlier on the Ross Kaminski show.
I'm running on pure kerosene right now. This is about
jury duty, which Ross was summoned to do, and that's
why I was filling in for him on a Monday
this extra got called for federal jury duty and had
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to go through Vaudir for a gun case that was
potentially multiple months long. The prosecutors decided to dismiss me
as soon as I said I was a Second Amendment absolutist.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
Okay, fair enough for bonus points.
Speaker 4 (07:19):
This Texter adds I slipped in a mention about jury nullification.
You know, whenever anybody mentions this, I immediately think back
to the film Runaway Jury with Gene Hackman in it.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
It's a really fascinating film.
Speaker 4 (07:33):
John cusacks in it, Dustin Hoffman is in it, tremendous cast,
very interesting film. I want to ask Christian Tode about
that one too, But yeah, that has a lot of
twists and turns. I don't think that our Texter was
quite going that far in that direction. But the only
jury I ever have served on, because I think it's
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because I've moved around so much, I've been very nomadic.
My people on the Serbian side, very gypsy like Morat
tried to gather our teers, that's how valuable those were.
But I really lived that lifestyle, bouncing from destination to destination,
holding several jobs. In fact, fun fact, I don't know
how fun this is. This stop in my career is
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the longest of my career, from twenty eighteen to the present,
right here at Iheartdever, it's especially shocking when you consider
how much change and turnover there has been in this industry,
the technology, the personnel over these last several years in
the wake of COVID. So I'm really stunned by that.
And then again, like I said, there's people like Shannon
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Scott who have survived the nuclear holocaust of not only radio,
but I think in general, how have you survived in
this business?
Speaker 2 (08:44):
As long as you have, Shannon what you.
Speaker 5 (08:46):
See lack of ambition and marketable skills.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
That's fair enough.
Speaker 4 (08:53):
But there's a reason why Dan Cappus calls him the
icon He literally he's iconic, and he's been here. You've
been here as long as this group has been in
this building?
Speaker 2 (09:03):
Is that true?
Speaker 5 (09:03):
Oh? Before before the thirty years now, now I started
where the old station was, what was that location? We
had a couple of locations. We had our KOA was
with KA z Y and some other stations down next
to the DCPA on a rapa Ho road. Yeah, right,
and then we k how with what was it what
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is now the Party or something like that? In ninety
five to seven was it Yosemite and Hampton? So while
it was J Cory, they bought Noble, which had k
HOW and KBCO and then joined us all together. So
we were in three locations for a while, including Boulder.
Speaker 4 (09:47):
Now I'm going way back here because I just saw
the film The Order in which Mark Marin portrays Alan Berg,
and that story was six thirty K if you're not
familiar with it, a tragic one. He was gunned down
by white supremacist in his driveway and that's portrayed in
the movie.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
That scene as well.
Speaker 4 (10:06):
Is that where he would have worked or would have
been a previous location to that one that you just said.
Speaker 5 (10:09):
Previous location of that that might have been in conjunction
with Channel four because it was koa TV and a radio.
Speaker 4 (10:18):
Wow, all these changes history, lesson time, gather around children.
Speaker 5 (10:23):
Well, my family knew alan Berg very well. He used
to do our restaurant all the time. And the last
thing I said to him, about a week before he died,
he asked, Hey, Shannon, what do you think of something something?
And not as a teenager, I said, I'm not paid
to think.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
Wait a minute, you still say that on a regular basis.
Speaker 5 (10:43):
I don't say it, I.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
Just prove it.
Speaker 4 (10:48):
Oh, I appreciate that walk down memory Lane. But if
you haven't seen the order, I would it's a good
Have you seen it, Shannon, that film you've not? Okay, well,
I think you might appreciate it now, Alan Berg, A
portion of that film is incidental to the overall plot,
but it's it's in a very important plot point in
the whole telling of that story. It's mostly I think,
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based on a true story, and Jude Law stars in
it and he's he's exceptional in it. So that's just
my personal recommendation. There seven, three, nine those texts you
can send them along. Coming up in our number two,
we are jam packed and Wired for sound. Jennifer say
xx x y athletics my conversation with her, and then
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the President of the United States, Donald Trump, will joined
me in our number two.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
Wink and a nod and a chuckle right there.
Speaker 4 (11:41):
But one of the things that we'll talk to the
President about over the weekend. I'm watching now on Will
Caine and he does an outstanding job. He is taking
the time slot on Fox News from Neil Cavudo, I think,
much to the delight of our own Kelly Cacerra, because
Neil he didn't like me very much, Okay, and Will Caine.
But I think Will is an exceptionally hard worker and
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he has earned that opportunity. I think he's very informative, entertaining, knowledgeable, smart,
and he's a great interviewer. And what he's getting, what
I'm noticing, isn't that time slot. Although I would say
Will politically is very much aligned with yours truly and
probably you in the listening audience, and definitely Shannon. He's
getting a lot of Democrats to come on his program,
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which credit to him for that. But four of them,
four House Dems. Guess where they are right now? El
Salvador for Kilar abrago Garcia, I don't understand this.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
Now.
Speaker 4 (12:38):
If this was an abuela, a grandmother, or somebody that
was a much more sympathetic figure, then kill Maar abrago Garcia.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
I could see kind of the political hay to be made.
Speaker 4 (12:53):
But this is such a law of diminishing returns. The
more we find out about abrago Garcia, the less sympathetic
figure he is. I don't compute with the reasoning, the
logic behind this whole due process thing. And this was
part of a key exchange between Jonathan carl who I
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think was filling in for George Stephanopolis and only occasionally
hosts that show anymore on ABC on Sundays. He was
kind of sparring with Tom Holman about Van Holland's or
rather Garcia status, Senator Van Holland going down to visit him,
and that's what brought this to the forefront in the news,
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and Homan did an excellent job of pushing back in
a very informed way about who this person was.
Speaker 2 (13:41):
Let's go to one of those exchanges here.
Speaker 6 (13:43):
He says that he has done this because it's the
issue here is due process, Bean Holand, and it's following
a court order that the you know, the Supreme Court
has said that the administration needs to facilitate his return
so we can get through have his chance at due
pros I think.
Speaker 7 (14:01):
And I understand the facilitate, but he's also in the custody.
He's a citizen and national country Al Salvador salf Salvador
would certainly have to cooperate in that. But again I'm
on the hoop on that I'm not an attorney. I'm
not mitigating this case. We'll do whatever the you know,
the law says we have to do and what I think.
I stand by the fact. I think we did the
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right thing here. We removed the public safety threat, a
national security threat, a violent game member for the United
States ICE Intelligence says MS thirteen game member. Content Performance
says he's MS thirteen game member. The country of Al
Salvador says he's an MS thirteen game member. I think
he's exactly where he should be.
Speaker 4 (14:39):
He is exactly where he should be. He is a
citizen of Il Salvador and not the United States. I
don't understand this. The whole argument for me falls apart,
and it ends right there. I wish I could have
John Fabricatory on. He is preparing for a Trump appointed position,
and I get it he doesn't want to kind of
get his hands dirty with commentary on a show like this.
Speaker 2 (14:59):
But I'm going to this argument about due process.
Speaker 4 (15:04):
As far as I've been able to research and correct
me if I'm wrong, If you're out there in the
listening audience, you have information otherwise. But what I've been
able to gather is that there was an order for
deportation for this individual, Kilmar Abrigo Garcia in twenty nineteen
that the matter had been adjudicated, his asylum claim had
been denied, and he was marked for deportation, but never departed.
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He slipped through the cracks. He entered this country illegally.
He is not an American citizen. But we're supposed to
extend these constitutional rights to non citizens citizens of the world.
This is the slippery slope and what's the gray area?
I always look to argue this and where on the
spectrum do you have to be to garner United States
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constitutional rights meant for citizens? What Jonathan carl sites is
a decision I think was nineteen ninety three in which
Antonin Scalia wrote the majority opinion that said aliens in
this country are conferred upon with constitutional rights, which I
don't disagree often with one of the lion of the
Supreme Court, Antonin Scalia. But what I would have pushed
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back on is, well, wait a minute, what if somebody
came into this country legally as a tourist. I've made
this argument in the past. We know they're here, they're
here legally, but they have a passport, they're a citizen.
Of a different country, and when you enter the United States,
just like when I go into Canada, how long are
you gonna be here? I'm here for a week, I'm
(16:29):
going fishing. Well, if you're there over a week, then
what what if somebody comes here there is that I'm
not gonna I'm not gonna go back.
Speaker 2 (16:36):
I'm just gonna stay.
Speaker 4 (16:37):
So as a British national, as a Japanese national is
a Kenya national, is a Saudi national who comes here
on vacation just decides to stay, did they automatically just
get us constitutional rights for the duration of their illegal
stay here, even though they entered the country legally as
a tourist with a passport. That's a to me, that's
(16:59):
a stronger argument, and it sounds ridiculous because it is so.
Kilmar Abrago Garcia did not make any effort to establish
himself with legal status in this country to become an
American citizen.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
He crossed the border illegally. Game over. That's it. It's over.
Speaker 4 (17:16):
I don't see the claim about one keeping him here,
two returning him here.
Speaker 2 (17:21):
He is not a citizen.
Speaker 4 (17:23):
If he wanted that kind of stability security, then come
into the country legally go through the process become an
American citizen. In that ceremony, you pledge allegiance to the
flag of the United States of America.
Speaker 2 (17:37):
That's important. That's important.
Speaker 4 (17:40):
If you're not willing, or you're too lazy, or you
don't want to bother with going through that process, then
why should we bother protecting you with constitutional rights?
Speaker 2 (17:49):
And again the Pandora's box.
Speaker 4 (17:50):
If just anybody who walks into the country, you'd get
constitutional rights and we can't kick you out?
Speaker 2 (17:55):
What the hell is that that is?
Speaker 4 (17:58):
A country without borders is not a nation. We have
a right to enforce our borders and determine who we
want here and who we don't. And if you do
not have authorization, validation, documentation to be here, you don't
have a right to be here. I don't think that's
a controversial thing to say. But the Libs, the left,
(18:18):
Jonathan Carl, the Democrats, Senator Van Holand are losing their
minds over this guy and for what to what end?
Speaker 2 (18:27):
What he deserves due process?
Speaker 4 (18:29):
Do you know how any people came into this country
illegally during Joe Biden's awful tenure as president. It's at
least eleven million, so what you're telling me, then, is
we need to adjudicate each and every one of those
individuals eleven million court cases for a hearing before a judge.
Speaker 2 (18:47):
Are you nuts?
Speaker 4 (18:50):
These people did not come into this country, a lot
of those with any kind of intent to show up
for an adjudication hearing for asylum claims, and we're just
supposed to bend over back words to accommodate them. How
about no, do you have a different opinion? Five seven
seven thirty nine if you agree? And again, the people
that degree that most strongly with me are legal immigrants,
(19:10):
legal immigrants who did.
Speaker 2 (19:12):
It the right way. And I'd be mad too. A
time out. We're back with more Ryan schuling live after this.
You know what a big.
Speaker 8 (19:23):
Surprise that a bunch of a few leaders get fired
and suddenly a bunch of hit pieces come out from
the same media that pedaled the Russia hopes won't get
back their Pulitzers.
Speaker 9 (19:34):
They got Pultzers for a bunch of lies, Pultzers for
a bunch of lies on hoaxes, time and time and
time again. And as they pedal those lies, no one
ever calls them on.
Speaker 2 (19:46):
See this is what the media does.
Speaker 9 (19:48):
They take anonymous sources from disgruntled former employees. I mean
they try to slash and burn people and ruin their reputations,
not going to work with me because we're changing the
Defense apartment, putting the pedagon back in the hands of
war fighters, and anonymous smears from disgruntled former employees on
old news doesn't matter.
Speaker 2 (20:08):
So I'm happy to be.
Speaker 9 (20:09):
Here at the East regg Roll with my dad, my kids,
because you know, this is what we're doing it for,
these kids right here. This is why we're fighting the
fake news media. This is why we're fighting slash and
burned Democrats. This is why we're fighting posters, posters.
Speaker 2 (20:25):
This group, no, no, this group.
Speaker 8 (20:26):
Right here full of hoasters, the pedal, anonymous sources from
leakers with access to grind and then yes.
Speaker 2 (20:34):
Put it all together as if it's some news story
and what we know, you know exactly what it is.
Speaker 9 (20:40):
So I'm really proud of what we're doing for the president,
fighting hard across the board, and I'm going.
Speaker 2 (20:45):
To go roll some East Eggs with my kids. Thank
you very much. This is quite a scene.
Speaker 4 (20:50):
And I just saw up on the Fox News display
with Will Caine there, Donald Trump was bragging about the
fact the East.
Speaker 10 (20:57):
Of Bunny is not taking me out like you took
a Joe Biden last year.
Speaker 4 (21:02):
See you're on the White House lawn. You got jazz music.
You could hear that in the background. You got the
Easter egg roll coming up. You got Pete hegg Seth,
Secretary of Defense, firing back at anonymous sources. Anonymous sources
reports that he looped family members in on this signaled chat.
You remember this controversy from a month or so ago
(21:24):
on the attacks against the Hoothy rebels. But I thought
Secretary heg Seth handled that well. The mainstream media all
they're trying to run with and I look right over
at CNN, it say source Trump spoke last night with him,
battled Defense Secretary heg Seth, and they got a National
Security and politics politics correspondent Natasha Bertrand on there.
Speaker 2 (21:45):
They are trying to pour gret Keurrosy on this fire.
But it just isn't going to work.
Speaker 4 (21:51):
Heg Seth is resolute, and Donald Trump was asked about
this and here was his response.
Speaker 11 (21:56):
Wait, and I hear they doing that whole same thing again.
Speaker 2 (21:59):
Here we go again. It's just a waste of time.
Even he is doing.
Speaker 11 (22:03):
He is doing a great job. Because he's doing a
great job. Thanks you ask ask the hoodies how he's doing.
Ask the hoodies how much this function is on. Pete's
doing a great job. Everybody's happy with him. We have
the highest recruitment recruitment numbers I think they've had in
twenty eight years. No, he's doing a great job. It's
(22:25):
just fake news. They just bring up stories. I guess
it sounds like this grunt old employees. You know, he
was sput there to get rid of a lot of bad.
Speaker 2 (22:32):
People, and that's what he's doing. So you don't always
have friends when you do that.
Speaker 4 (22:37):
President Trump having secretary heg Seth's back right there earlier
today and the President will join us in about an
hour to offer his commentary on this, on the Easter
Bunny and maybe even on this, because when he was
done with that comment he went right back to coloring
and a coloring book with a bunch.
Speaker 2 (22:55):
Of kids that were there for Easter.
Speaker 11 (23:02):
I'm really into Resident, No, I'm really into this, and
it's stuffed out. We don't have a white craan.
Speaker 2 (23:08):
What am I gonna do to leave it?
Speaker 7 (23:09):
What I.
Speaker 9 (23:11):
Lead?
Speaker 11 (23:11):
The whole thing white Okay, smile up their kids.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
It's tough.
Speaker 10 (23:18):
We don't have a white cran, and even if we did,
if we used it, people would.
Speaker 2 (23:21):
Say we're racist. I mean, I only have the twelve crans.
Speaker 10 (23:28):
When I was little, I had the sixty four crans
with a sharpener in the back. You remember Crayola, it
was great, Burnt Sienna, great color.
Speaker 4 (23:39):
This guy, he doesn't miss a trick, and he's hilarious.
And even they're sitting there coloring with kids, he's having
a good time. You could tell he enjoyed their company.
They were thrilled to be sitting there with the president
of United States. They're coloring Easter eggs, they're coloring coloring books.
He points overs.
Speaker 2 (23:56):
You know who that is. That's the first lady Milania.
She's beautiful, isn't she.
Speaker 4 (24:01):
Ed. I just I love this whole scene and I
can't wait to talk to him about it. Coming up
in our number two, let's get some texts. Five seven, seven,
three nine. This from Steven Little to the retire law
enforcement officer, and Steve has always thank you for your
service in that regard the dem insanity over this TDA
to Portia where he's MS thirteen but you know potato pataddle.
(24:23):
Either one by is just Trump arrangement on display. Steve,
you're right, and it's they're falling into this trap. You
know who's not. And it's a little concerning because Patrick
Bateman he scares me. American psycho portrayed by Christian Bale,
also known as Gavin Newsom. Let's slick back here the
weird idiosyncratic thumb movement.
Speaker 2 (24:43):
You ever see him do that?
Speaker 4 (24:44):
Channel or he's like doing this thing with the thumb
up and down, like we gotta get him going. And
he goes on with Bill Maher and he he has
Charlie Kirk, he has the band on his own podcast.
He's trying to distance himself from the lunatic fringe left
now I think he he's either with them. The best explanation,
the kindest one I can offer, is that Gavin Newsom
(25:06):
is a complete chameleon. He's apolitical, he doesn't really believe
any of this stuff. But he knew in California he
had to be crazy, he had to get a little nuts.
So being the psychopathic, narcissistic personality that he is, he
had to adapt.
Speaker 2 (25:21):
He to adapt his whole personality. He to adapt his
whole belief system. He doesn't stand for anything. There are
any principles there. He's just what will.
Speaker 4 (25:29):
Win in California and how do I get to the
finish line.
Speaker 2 (25:32):
Okay, he's done with that. Two terms of his governor.
Now he wants to run for president.
Speaker 4 (25:36):
Now suddenly he's like, oh, trans and sports thing, it's
not good, it's not fair. What Wait a minute. If
you thought that, why do you do something about it?
Why didn't you speak out against it? Why didn't you
stand up to your own party. He's a coward. I mean,
there's a lot of similarities when you think about it
between Gavin Newsom and Jared Poulis. Jared Poulis is a
(26:00):
complete narcissist, completely in it for his own self preservation
political motives, does not care a whit about the people
who's supposed to serve by whom he was elected. Eh,
those are pans, they're below me. Those are the riff raff.
Get out of here.
Speaker 2 (26:18):
I want to I want to be among the monkey MUCKs.
But they're both of that same vein.
Speaker 4 (26:24):
This is what really disoriented me about paul Is signing
this gun bill. I mean, my goodness, when Gavin Newsom
can outflank you.
Speaker 2 (26:33):
To the right on that issue.
Speaker 4 (26:35):
And then and then we have this House Bill twenty
five thirteen twelve, lingering like a bad odor going from
the House over to the Senate. Those Senate Democrats like
Jeff Bridges, the dude, my own senator, good guy, good
guy he gets along with Barb Kirkmeyer. They're for unfriendly terms.
I think you know many moons ago. Jeff Bridges, if
(26:58):
he was my senator, he's Democratic, he's okay, you know,
center left Democrat, but he doesn't stand up to the
radical lunatic fringe in his own party, going whoa, whoa, whoa,
pumped the break.
Speaker 2 (27:08):
No, no, we're not doing that.
Speaker 4 (27:11):
But he's definitely afraid of this coming up for a
vote along with I gotta say a lot of Democrats
that the scuttle butt I'm getting is from the Senate
in the General Assembly, they want no part of this radioactive,
toxic kryptonite thirteen twelve bill.
Speaker 2 (27:28):
Because what does it do.
Speaker 4 (27:30):
All it does is it reaffirms your far left lunatic
base and it satiates them, but it alienates everybody else,
including the center left voters that are instrumental in this state,
the median voter, in my view, in my analysis looking
at the math, the median voter. So the person that's
(27:50):
right in the middle that determines the elections is an unaffiliated,
probably center left person. They're probably pro choice on abortion
and they're probably pro marijuana.
Speaker 2 (28:03):
So when they default to the voting.
Speaker 4 (28:05):
Booth and there's no booth anymore, it's by mail, which
that's a totally different thing that I disagree with, but anyway,
play it forward, their default position is to vote Democrat.
But the more crazy town stuff like this the Democrats do,
I think, the more accessible that kind of center left,
unaffiliated person who has never considered voting Republican before, maybe
(28:28):
hasn't even been approached by Republican candidates. This is where
Greg Lopez says, I'm going to talk to these people
as we should get them to coalesce around issues like
this that are eighty twenty. And the Democrats all of
a sudden, the calculus for them, it changes, it degrades,
it diminishes, and I think a smart Democrat in this
(28:48):
state is going to realize that. But what are they doing?
They're silent on this issue. You know why, I'm going
to tell you why they are terrified of their left flank.
They are terrified of the Bernie Aoc wing of the party,
of the burning up the Tesla's part of the party,
but that's okay, of the pro assassination Luis G. Mangioni
(29:10):
loving anti Elon Musk.
Speaker 2 (29:13):
Wing of their party.
Speaker 4 (29:15):
They cannot afford, at least they don't think so to
stand up to these people the way that Bill Maher
has and he's taking heat for it, and the way
that Gavin Newsom apparently is trying to do. That's what
makes this so fascinating for me is these are losers.
Speaker 2 (29:32):
These are lead balloons. They're floating out there.
Speaker 4 (29:35):
And Trump scores a lot of points today just optically
looking at that. He's robust, he's engaging with the media,
he's combative, he's kind to the children who are loving
being there.
Speaker 2 (29:46):
He's got melodia on.
Speaker 4 (29:47):
His arm right down the way, also coloring and coloring
books with kids. These things, these kind of photos matter.
As Dan Bongino always said, snapshots and sound bites. And
you just you heard the SoundBite and you can see
the snapshots that I'm describing if you look online and
search for those, get some more of your texts and
finish out hour number one. When we come back, send
(30:08):
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Speaker 2 (32:37):
Some texts to wrap up our.
Speaker 4 (32:40):
Number one heading into halftime of today's program on Monday
edition IF twenty one, twenty twenty five with Shannon Scott.
Speaker 2 (32:47):
I'm Ryan Shuling. Listen to those texts right now, Ryan.
Speaker 4 (32:51):
My wife was called for jury duty some years ago
and was quite eager to participate. As she stood in
line to check in outside the building, she turned to
them behind her and enthusiastically asked him, are you here
for jury duty?
Speaker 2 (33:04):
Two.
Speaker 4 (33:04):
He simply glared at her and replied a gruff no.
This is when she noticed the handcuffs on his wrists
and the policeman holding his arm escorting him. She quickly
turned back around. Yeah, that might have been the very
case that she would have been called to be on
the jury.
Speaker 5 (33:19):
Four.
Speaker 4 (33:20):
No, probably not, but would have been funny if for us.
Eric Manning always got to edit these. They're very r rated,
but he's funny and he's a great guy.
Speaker 2 (33:29):
Ryan.
Speaker 4 (33:29):
What's so insanely crazy is that now the Democrats and
the Supreme Court want the Trump administration to vet all
of these illegal aliens leaving.
Speaker 2 (33:36):
Our country, but they sure.
Speaker 4 (33:38):
Didn't vet the millions of them illegal aliens coming into
the country. Wow, that's double bs. Eric, you are right
the door opening in either direction. You're absolutely correct the
other part of that too. There were massive deportations under
Bill Clinton. He bragged about them. Hillary Clinton campaigned on
them in two thousand and eight. I was there, I
remember it. I don't have amnesia. I didn't have brain injury.
(34:01):
Barack Obama, there are deportations on his watch. There were
deportations on President George W. Bush's watch.
Speaker 2 (34:09):
Marry a court challenge among them? Why not? Even though
why not?
Speaker 4 (34:14):
Trump has been a target of politically motivated judges, the
ego judge shopping to the most liberal circuits in the country.
And they are willing in the name of stopping the orangeman,
because that's a higher calling, that's a biblical calling. Although
they don't believe in the Bible, most of these people,
but they believe this is their higher purpose, is to
stop Donald Trump by any means necessary. Is the reason
(34:35):
why what is it? A third at least of those
Democrats pulled or like.
Speaker 12 (34:39):
Well, Trump kind of had the assassination attempt coming and
if they would, if Thomas Crooks would have been successful, well,
my god.
Speaker 4 (34:51):
As much as I despise Joe Biden, for sure, Hillary Clinton,
and I came to despise and be very disappointed Barack Obama.
Never would I ever root for that individual's assassination, tolerate it,
condone it, encourage it. That's madness. There are so many
in the left that have lost their blanking minds. They
have no sense of humanity, no guardrails, no restrictions on
(35:16):
any behavior. The end justifies the means for them. That's
scary thinking. That's extremist thinking. And it's coming almost entirely
from the left now much no matter how much they
project or gaslight. Oh, the bigness threat to American society
right now is a white supremacy.
Speaker 2 (35:33):
Where where do you see this? Where is it? Point
it out?
Speaker 4 (35:37):
And these so called white supremacists are allegedly on the
same side of the political eyle as me. Nobody goes
to more like Republican functions than I do. I don't
see them unless you're saying, of course that I am one,
which okay, whatever, We're not even having a conversation that point.
Speaker 2 (35:52):
That's ridiculous and stupid Ryan.
Speaker 4 (35:55):
Nice thing is Trump wasn't sniffing any kid's hair. No,
but I was smelling the kranska, and I was hoping
that they would be like remember those markers and the
blue ones smelled like blueberries. Okay, I was hoping, and
the krans didn't smell. He was coloring with the kids, though.
Speaker 2 (36:12):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (36:12):
Hello, I am curious why you are okay with Trump
changing his mind over the years on issues such as
abortion and electric vehicles. But a polist er knew him
change their stance or something. You're all over them. I
think that's a fair minded question. But I think it's uh.
You air on the premise, which is Trump's journey on
being pro life has been over many, many, many years.
(36:33):
He was the first president to attend in person the
March for Life. Ronald Reagan and George W. Bush simply
phoned it in literally. Trump has put his money where
his mouth is on that issue. He loves babies, Okay,
I want lots of big, healthy, beautiful babies. He's not
a fan of abortion. He's a moderate on the issue.
It's not like he's come all the way over he
(36:54):
is for the exceptions. He's expressed that in the debate
a rape incests life of the mother. He's about where
I am on the issue, But like me, I think
he wants as few as possible and to avoid them
if it's preventable. So I appreciate what you're saying, but
the police knew some pivots on certain issues like meetout Day,
just for instance, for Jared Polis that was so unpopular.
Wait a minute, I'm a grow master myself. I make
(37:15):
a lot of burgers. Come on, that's not authentic. A
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