Stephen L. Miller, host of the Versus Media podcast, offers his unique, acerbic perspective on the Trump trade tariffs - and more tellingly, the mainstream media's knee-jerk reaction them and the announced 90-day pause.
Breccan Thies broke the story of Dustin Gonzalez, fighting against the gender transitioning of his child by JeffCo Public Schools without his knowledge or consent, for The Federalist on Wednesday. He joins Ryan, in the second half, with his journalistic perspective on the story.
Breccan Thies broke the story of Dustin Gonzalez, fighting against the gender transitioning of his child by JeffCo Public Schools without his knowledge or consent, for The Federalist on Wednesday. He joins Ryan, in the second half, with his journalistic perspective on the story.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I'm here at the airport. I'm about to board my
flight for San Salvador. The goal of this mission is
to let the Trump administration, to let the government of
Al Salvador know that we are going to keep fighting
to bring Albrego Garcia home until he returns to his family.
I hope to meet with representatives of the government. I
(00:21):
hope to have a chance to actually see Kilmark and
see what his condition is. But we are going to
keep fighting because this is a miscarriage of justice. The
Supreme Court has ruled nine to zero, nine to zero
that he was illegally taken out of the country and
put in a prison in Al Salvador.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
Not sure.
Speaker 1 (00:43):
And this is about due process.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
This is about rule of law.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
What bullies do is they begin by picking on the
most vulnerable.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
But if we get rid of the rule of law.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
Due process the United States, it's a short road from
there to.
Speaker 3 (00:58):
Tyranny Maryland Democrat Chris van Holland, and there's a lot
of holes in his story as he presents it there
in this obvious publicity stunt done for optics, and the
sheer irony of this as a senator from Maryland chasing
down a person who has been deported to El Salvador
(01:19):
rightly a citizen of that country, who is not a
citizen of the United States, who was here illegally, who
had had his asylum hearing adjudicated in the negative, decided
to say, in this country, Kilmar Abrego Garcia, and he
is wrong.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
That is not what the Supreme Court ruled.
Speaker 3 (01:39):
The ruling was watery and nebulous, and even liberal legal
scholars are criticizing it, saying that the Trump administration needed
to help facilitate the return.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
Of Abrego Garcia. What does that mean? Help facilitate it?
Speaker 3 (01:53):
Provide a plane in case President Bukailey decided in El Salvare, yeah,
you know you want to send him back? That he
really doesn't stand the test of logic. This man was
an illegal alien. It is also being brought to light
that there were not one, but two personal protective orders
restraining orders filed against him by his wife. He was
(02:16):
a member of a union, he was gainfully employed. But
I'm struggling with why or how that would have happened
if he was not a legal resident of the United States.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
There's a lot of questions here.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
And Van Holland then followed up with the following, saying
that his request made to the Vice President of El
Salvador to visit Kilmar Abrego Garcia was denied. The Senator
said he was told by the Vice president, you need
to make it earlier provisions to visit Seacott Cecot. This
is from Ali Bradley to follow her on exit Ali
(02:50):
Bradley TV. She is the network correspondent covering the southern
border for News Nation and reporting on this. Continuing, Van
Holland says he wasn't able to meet with a Brigo
Garcia or have a phone conversation with him. The vice
President of El Salvador told him if the American embassy
were to ask quote, maybe that could happen unquote. Van
(03:12):
Holand says he will make the request to the embassy.
The Senator now calling on President Bukeley to let Abrigo
Garcia walk out of the prison and come back to
the US, saying he was abducted. The Trump administration maintains
that Abrigo Garcia is a member of MS thirteen. That's
another thing that's not just the Trump administration, saying that
that is the result of two courts ruling that he
(03:35):
had both plausible and apparent ties to MS thirteen. President
Buchayley says he is not going to release a Brigo
Garcia to smuggle him into the US, and he said
that in an Oval office meeting with President Trump joining us.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
Now, we hope he's feeling better.
Speaker 3 (03:52):
He is read stez on x, one of the best
follows on that platform, and he's the host of the
Versus Media podcast.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
He's also a Colorado resident. Steven L.
Speaker 3 (04:00):
Miller our guest on Ryan Shuling Live. Steven, how are
you feeling?
Speaker 4 (04:03):
Man'll find out how long this lasts?
Speaker 2 (04:08):
Yeah? And then you had also the emergency visit to
the vet.
Speaker 4 (04:12):
Right, He's all right, It was just like a backspasm,
but that all kind of coupled on it. It was
a day yesterday. So it's interesting because I'm pretty sure
this was the strain of strap throat going around, and
someone asked me, we're sure it's not COVID, And it's
so funny that I'm so far out of it that
I didn't even consider COVID an option anymore. And yet
we still have people walking around in mass and you know,
(04:33):
telling us to you know, stay safe. An't even considered
that it could be COVID it might be I don't know, yeah.
Speaker 3 (04:40):
And I'm interested in getting your commentary. And that's a
good sign though, that it's in the rear view mirror
and that we aren't even thinking about a front of
mine awareness. But Patty Morin, the mother of murdered Rachel,
who was killed by an illegal migrant here in Maryland,
by the way, was on with Sean Hannity last night
and she just appeared in the White House Press briefing
room at a press conference there.
Speaker 5 (05:01):
What are your.
Speaker 6 (05:02):
Thoughts on your senator going to bat for this illegal
But did he ever say anything to you and your
family about your loss, to ever call you, ever take
the time to be with you.
Speaker 5 (05:15):
No.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
Actually, I'm very angry.
Speaker 5 (05:17):
I'm actually outraged, but.
Speaker 3 (05:19):
I'm too sad at them put the show anger At
the same time, he did not call our family, He
did not give condolences.
Speaker 5 (05:29):
There was no action.
Speaker 7 (05:31):
On the Democratic Party in any way from Joe by Kamala, Harris,
My Orcus.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
Anyone here in Maryland.
Speaker 5 (05:42):
None of the senators did anything to help search for
the murderer of my daughter.
Speaker 3 (05:48):
What is the political calculation here in your mind as
you see it, Stephen, for Senator Chris Van Holland with
these two conflating stories.
Speaker 4 (05:58):
I think there are two things happening here. I think
you have a confusing judicial ruling on top of this.
There was an injunction, So whether or not you should
have been deported is again, like you said, there's.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
Some money legal debate here.
Speaker 4 (06:11):
I think what the Trump White House understands is that
this is an optics war and this is one of
the top issues of why Trump was re elected. It
was behind inflation, that was immigration. Then there was obviously
gender issues in schools, and White House with having her
speak and this is a woman who's doing this of
her own fruition. This isn't you know. You can argue
if it's a political stunt or not, but this is
(06:33):
a White House that understands that Democrats primarily operate on optics.
They have a mainstream that you know, network bastream media
behind them that can very much push their messaging for them.
And this is the White House that basically said, Okay,
we're going to show you, you know the effects of
unfedered illegal immigration and that results in the casualties of
(06:56):
American citizens that should all still be alive, and Democrats
simply do not have an answer for this. And so
when you have a Democratic senator getting on an airplane
and there's probably gonna be several more, and they're flying
down to El Salvadover to find the presence of someone
that two court injunctions suggests this person is a gang
member of some sort. He had two restraining orders put
on him by his either now life or at ben
(07:19):
was his future wife. And this is a case of
pick better heroes, guys. There are other cases, I think
where we can look at mistaken immigration, mistaken cases of deportation,
but that doesn't fit a Democratic party's demographic that they're
desperately tried to win back that they lost. And this
lost election, you have somebody in Donald Trump who is
very adept at media and playing the media and playing
(07:41):
an optics war. And simply put, when you bring out
a mother, whether it's related to this individual or not,
who says my daughter should still be here, it kind
of silences the media of it, and it certainly silence
is a Democratic Party to remind people what this is
actually all about. And so I guess I look at
this and I say to the Democratic Party, you guys
(08:02):
should start picking better examples, because the Trump administration really
has kind of co opted the Democratic Party's whole thing
of you know, here's a victim of planned parenthood or
pro life laws, or here's a victim of this, and
they truck these people out like it's Sandra Flucker or whomever,
and Trump is only simply using tactics against them. And
(08:22):
this has kind of been his whole thing throughout his
entire political career.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
Steven L.
Speaker 3 (08:26):
Miller Red Stee's on X You can follow him there.
You can also listen to his Versus Media podcast. One
other thing that I needed you to comment on here, Stephen,
because she's been kind of at the top of our
menu several times in conversations, but seems I'll do herself
with every public comment that she makes. And that's Taylor
Lorenz making this comment about Luigi Mangioni, who is on
(08:48):
trial for his life, potentially sentenced to death because he
murdered open on the street. The United Healthcare CEO Luigi
Mangioni is the one in question.
Speaker 8 (09:00):
Hilarious to see these millionaire media pundits on TV clutching
their pearls about someone standing a murderer when this is
the United States of America, as if we don't lionize criminals,
as if we don't have you know, we don't stan
murderers of all sorts, and we give them Netflix shows.
There's a huge disconnect between the narratives and angles or
(09:23):
mainstream media pushes and what the American public feels. And
you see that in moments like this. And I can
tell you I saw the biggest audience growth that I've
ever seen because people were like, Oh, somebody, some journalists
is actually speaking to the anger that we feel.
Speaker 4 (09:39):
Is that the case here, Stephen, No, It's obviously it's
not the case. This is a woman who exists in
a very very small online bubble and how she makes
her name. And this interview happened on CNN with a
misinformation tech reporter named Donnie Sullivan. And I actually don't
(10:01):
think Talel Lorenz is the problem in this interview.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
Everyone is well aware of who she.
Speaker 5 (10:05):
Is in the media.
Speaker 4 (10:05):
By now. I actually think she's the most honest person
in all of mainstream media. She has to conduit to
what these other people wish they could actually say. And
I think the problem here is you have CNN and
kind of warming up to this and you have a
new reporter who is attempting to view the world through
a prism of right wing violence, and this is what
(10:26):
his show is about. And in order to do so,
the three main instances he can name about how right
wing extremism there's no equivalent on the left is January sixth,
which is an incident that happened five years ago, Charlottesville,
which is an incdent that happened in twenty seventeen, and
only two months prior to the Alexandria baseball field shooting
in Oklahoma City, which was thirty years ago. And in
(10:48):
order to pull off this rhetorical act that he's doing,
he has to ignore the fact that there are TESTLA
factories on fire this year. He has to ignore the
fact that there were two assassination attempts on the Republican
nominee Donald Trump. He has to ignore the fact at
just this week, the Pennsylvania Governor's mansion was just set
on fire by a martist anarchist. This is someone who
(11:11):
has to completely ignore the rampant violence that we've seen
pretty much since Occupied Wall Street in this country in
order to justify the fact that some people making some
YouTube videos and that's the rise of extremism on the
political right. To me, Taylor Lorenza's this is who she is,
and everyone's been well aware of this, and that's why
the Washington Posts in New York Times were forced to
(11:32):
cut ties with her. While her quote there is, of
course it's you know, Tiger beat fangirling for assassinations dot com.
This is somebody who everyone knows who she is. And
when you have CNN still trying to pull this January
sixth act, we had an election this last November, and
I think that that was a pretty resounding answer to
what people thought about January sixth.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
It was a very bad day.
Speaker 4 (11:53):
But the lawfare that happened through the Biden administration that
stemmed from that brought us even further down these preslopes
of legal lawfare. A So, yeah, I get.
Speaker 5 (12:04):
Taylor, and I get this.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
She's doing this act.
Speaker 4 (12:06):
She's doing it for audience growth. She fully admits it,
but she fully is honest about who she is and
what she believes. And again, she's sort of a John
Stewart type in the sense of that she says the
things that a lot of journalists wish they could actually say.
You know, they can only.
Speaker 3 (12:21):
Test me not along with Catcher's latest on a substack
that is the Versus Media podcast and follow him on
x at Red.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
Steve Stephen L. Miller.
Speaker 3 (12:29):
Glad to hear you sounding good. Hopefully you feel even
better tomorrow and we'll talk to.
Speaker 2 (12:32):
You again soon.
Speaker 4 (12:34):
We'll see there's still about thirteen fourteen hours ago.
Speaker 3 (12:37):
We'll see yeah, day and over yet, that's true, and
it ain't over for us either. Here on Ryan Schuling
live and joining us now. He's the CEO of Newsmax.
So excited to be joined by Chris Ruddy. I've interviewed
him before and eager to get an update on what
Newsmax is doing next. Chris, thank you so much for
your time.
Speaker 5 (12:54):
Well, Ryan, always great to be on with you. Thank
you for having me now one of dighting times.
Speaker 3 (12:59):
That's the word exciting, and why I'm excited is where
Newsmax is going. You're talking about a successful ipo New
York Stock Exchange. You rang the opening bell. A lot
of people are nervous about where the markets are right now.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
You are not. Why not?
Speaker 5 (13:16):
Well, actually we went out on March thirty first, we
went public on the New York Stock Exchange and you know,
the market's been really in a correction mode since then,
but we've gone up over one hundred percent, sometimes quite
more than that. And I think it's a significant sign
that investors like Newsmas that we've developed a tremendous reach,
(13:39):
you know, with the fourth highest rated cable news channel
in America. Reuter's Institute says, we're one of the top
twelve news brands in the whole United States, and it's
an amazing outpouring. You know. We think we are in
a media news revolution here, taking back the media. We're
reaching about forty million people regularly now and it all
(14:00):
started with a website and talk radio host Speak Yourself
Ryan that said Newsmax is the place to go to
or go online. Now they're going to our cable channel
or downloading our free app, and it's an amazing I
think it's a grassroots revolution, much like we're seeing with
President Trump, you know, where he has just the people.
(14:22):
I mean, the media was ninety percent against him in
the last election, and yet he won more than half
the country. So I think it's a sign that people
are really really excited about what we're doing. And I
might add that people can certainly go speak to their stockbroker.
Look us up at newsmaxinvest dot com. We have a
lot of our sec filings there as well.
Speaker 3 (14:45):
Follow him on X at Chris Ruddy NmX. That's short
for Newsmax there. He is the CEO joining us here today.
One of the things I appreciate about your insight, Chris,
is it comes with personal knowledge of the president. It
might be slightly different what you hear behind the scenes
with what people are seeing portrayed, especially in media that's
(15:06):
not Newsmax. So as directly as you can articulate it
for our listeners, what do you glean from President Trump
when it comes to his economic policy, his plans on
the international stage, when it comes to tariffs, those cost
cutting managers along those lines, and where you feel the
economy is heading under his leadership.
Speaker 5 (15:27):
Well, it's a good question. Probably a long answer we'll
give to this short version. You know, I've known President
Trump for almost thirty years. We've been friends. I think
Newsmax is probably the earliest media to start saying, hey,
this man could or should be president, and he really
likes Newsmax. He comes on quite a bit and he
has said that we're terrific and so We appreciate that
(15:50):
support from a sitting president of the United States. You know,
I've talked to him just several times. Last week we
talked about the tariffs. You know, the President, to be clear,
he's really not for tariffs. I mean, he wants tarists
for the car industry because he thinks that's important for
national security. He is for using tariffs as a weapon
(16:11):
or tool for leverage to get better trade deals. He
wants fair trade deals, and he only gets that if
he plays hard and tough, because we've been the sucker.
China has had tariffs against all our products, many of
them for decades, and yet they come into our country.
(16:33):
Until the first time million there is small ten percent taris.
The President said that's unfair, and so he's trying to
level the playing field now. And that's going to be
good in the long run that he does these deals.
In a short run, there might be some price increases,
some instability and predictability, but you know, I think that
(16:55):
it's the tariffs. So basically, what is a good policy
he's using to get better trade to open up markets
to our businesses.
Speaker 2 (17:04):
Chris Ruddy is the CEO of Newsmax.
Speaker 3 (17:07):
Of course, you can find it on your preferred platform,
whether that's Hulu or anywhere else. You can search them
out and find them, and you can also for just
stock in them now after their initial public offering, which
is Chris stated, happened at the end.
Speaker 2 (17:20):
Of last month.
Speaker 3 (17:21):
So, Chris, the decision to go public with that, I
think it adds a layer of credibility and stability to
the Newsmax brand. And no doubt you've included that as
part of your analysis, But can you take us through
exactly what went into that decision.
Speaker 2 (17:35):
And why you felt it was important to do that.
Speaker 5 (17:39):
Well, you know, we have been in the in the
internet business for decades. We were one of the founders
newsmax dot com and then we started cable channel ten
years ago. We've had an incredible growth. You know, last
quarter we had thirty three million Americans tuned in to Newsmax.
That was up from twenty two million that did it
(17:59):
in the first quarter of twenty twenty four, So we
had a fifty percent growth in total audience. That rarely
happens in any media that you have such huge, great
growth over such big numbers, And I think it's a
sign that we are people are checking out Newsmacs on
their cable channels, on their OTT platforms. They like us.
(18:22):
They're numbers, The numbers are sticking, and we felt like
we're so close to overtaking CNN and ratings. Why don't
we partner with tens of thousands, hundreds of thousands of
Americans that are shareholders. And that's why we actually invite
people to become a shareholder in Newsmas. Of course they
should talk to their advisor, they should read our filings
(18:42):
on newsmasinvest dot com. But we think it's a great
thing and a good thing, and it says shows support
for our mission, which is to take back the media
in this country. We've had a very big eesfect and
the media, you know, even thoughts I think everybody agrees,
is changing quite a bit. It's not what it used
to be. The man that founded it is a very
great man on my book, Rupert Murdoch, but his kids
(19:05):
are not going to follow through, I believe, on the
same legacy they proposed President Trump in several elections now
and I think playing a bit of a game with
their viewers, Newsmax has been very straightforward, and I think
that's why President Trump likes us so much.
Speaker 3 (19:22):
Newsmax Once again, it's CEO Chris Ruddy joining us here.
Final question, Chris, We appreciate your time. We know how
busy you are and I always get a lot of
great new details from you, including this new initial public
offering and Newsmas being open and available on the stock market.
But where it goes from here you've touched on it
a little bit, but what your vision is for Newsmax
(19:44):
going into the future. You mentioned overtaking CNN in the ratings.
That's a goal, but one of the mechanics that you
see behind getting there and why viewers that might be
in our listening audience are so important to that cause. Well, Ryan,
another great question, and I you know people the old days,
you know radio is radio, newspapers or newspapers very siloed.
(20:06):
Now you basically have to be on all platforms. Newsmax
is on cable, we're on streaming, we're on the Internet,
we do emails, we're on social media, all the major
social We have twenty million, about twenty million followers in
social media. And what I believe the media of the
future has to be like a news station which is
on all the platforms, multiplatform, and we were one of
(20:30):
the innovators on this and that's why we're on so
many different systems. And I think that we also have
a successful business or revenues have.
Speaker 5 (20:38):
Grown over three hundred percent in the past five years. Again,
this is a rarity in media, and I think that
it's really important that we continue taking back media and
that could be growth in cable TV, on broadcast TV, radio, podcasts.
Digital means our app is free. You can download it
and listen or watch Newsmaga anywhere in the world using it.
(21:02):
Uh So it's a very exciting thing for us. But
our I would say the future is to be all
for all, do all platforms for all the people. And
in fact, that sounds like a pretty good slogan. All
for all. Yeah, I like that.
Speaker 2 (21:17):
Yeah, maybe we'll go with that. And you broke it
right here.
Speaker 5 (21:20):
I say, Jamie credit Ryan Akamax dot com how to
come out of Colorado in years.
Speaker 3 (21:28):
Well, that is high praise coming from one Chris Ruddy,
the CEO of Newsmax. You can find him online newsmax
dot com and on X follow him at Chris Ruddy
and m X that's for Newsmax or Newsmax writ large
in general at Newsmax.
Speaker 2 (21:42):
It's just that simple. Chris.
Speaker 3 (21:44):
Always appreciate catching up with you and the news that
you bring to the table. It's always something and we'll
look forward to the next conversation.
Speaker 5 (21:51):
Great, Ryan, really appreciate you and we'll be giving you
updates on newsmaxs and more. So thank you again.
Speaker 3 (21:57):
All right, literally, stay tuned and if you watch NEWSMAC,
it's good for you. You're a head of the curve
right there. And we appreciate Chris Ruddy for joining us
in that double dip segment.
Speaker 2 (22:06):
You got Steven L. Miller, you got Chris Ruddy. I'm
doing this for you.
Speaker 3 (22:09):
I'm doing this for Zach mixed his podcast editing a
little bit easier. Just put the names of the guests
and who they were and there we go. And we
got another one coming up straight ahead, So stay tuned
for this. We've been following this story and it's very
important and we'll have more details on this coming up
tomorrow as well. Dustin Gonzalez, you may have seen his
(22:29):
clip go viral. He is a father fighting against the
gender transitioning of his child by you guessed it, jeffco
Public Schools. The journalist who broke this story form the
mainstream media. At the Federalist. Breckon Feast joins us next
to talk more about that after this on Ryan Schuling Life.
Speaker 2 (22:53):
I'm in Lakewood District too.
Speaker 9 (22:56):
I'm not a politician, an alloud voice on social media,
a quiet one when it goes to work, tries to
do right by his family and stays out.
Speaker 2 (23:04):
Of the spotlight.
Speaker 9 (23:05):
But now now you're gonna remember my name. You remember
it because I'm not just fighting from my daughter. I'm
finding make sure that what happens to me to my
family never happens to another parent in this district. My
daughter changed her identity, not after years of discussion or
family dialogue. Now if your joint input from both of
her parents.
Speaker 2 (23:25):
No, this happened quickly, secretly, encourage my school.
Speaker 9 (23:28):
Appointed therapist and a system that never thought to include me.
Speaker 2 (23:32):
And the school did inform me. They didn't include me,
they didn't even ask me. They replaced me. Wow.
Speaker 3 (23:38):
Dustin Gonzalez is in passion plea that that a Jeffco's
school board meeting. He is the father of a child
that was tranced without his knowledge, without his consent, by
the child's birth mother, with the aid of district administrators
and a so called therapist appointed by the school. Now
we have more details on this from our next guest.
(24:00):
He broke this news in the mainstream media for the
Federalist and he joins us now on Ryan Schuling Live
recon cease, our guest becon.
Speaker 2 (24:07):
Thank you for your time.
Speaker 3 (24:10):
Now, I know you took the time not only to
investigate this story, but to have those conversations with Dustin
and others. Take us through what you were able to
uncover and what people need to know.
Speaker 7 (24:21):
Yeah, you know this is this is a case where
a father is trying to de basically save his twelve
year old daughter from a lifetime of pain suffering drugs
and medical procedures, and the mother is apparently forced transitioning
the daughter and using that as a weapon and a
custody battle, and the mother is winning. You know that.
(24:42):
That's sort of how Colorado courts have been set up
in the past several years, where it's an affirmation only model.
You could you're going to always favor the parent who
wants to sort of mutilate and sterilize their child as
opposed to a parent who's saying, well, slow down, let's
have a conversation.
Speaker 2 (25:02):
About this and let's stop this.
Speaker 7 (25:04):
And you can hear that passion in his voice. You know,
Colorado has become an extremely dangerous state for parents who
don't want their children to transition genders. Unfortunately, as you
pointed out, you know, this story has a familiar pattern.
It starts with a school that starts proceeding what is
known as a social transition, which is, you know, calling
(25:25):
children by different names and pronouns and using restrooms at
the opposite sex and concealing that from parents. In this
particular case, it appears that the school was able to
find one parent, the mother, who would be a willing
participant in eventually sterilizing, immutilating their child. And and that's
sort of how you get go to the school apparently
(25:47):
knew about the twelve year old thinking that they were
a different gender or a different identity, months before the
mother knew. The mother new months before the father knew.
Speaker 2 (25:57):
I mean, this is just this is just not how
should be done.
Speaker 3 (26:01):
His article is entitled exclusive parents who don't want their
children mutilated are under assault in Colorado. That is absolutely true.
Brecon Theist our guest from the Federalist. You can find
that article at the Federalist dot com. Follow him on
x at brecon f feast. That's b R e cc
an letter f thhi E s Reckon the question I'm
(26:22):
going to ask, it is open to interpretation on the answer,
but I'm just basing it on your journalistic exploration this topic.
I've had this conversation with Aaron Lee. She is a
parent formerly in the Pooter School district whose daughter was
indoctrinated and it was ostensibly described as an art club.
It was nothing, but it was anything but that, and
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had to go through intense counseling to reverse that process.
That's just one example, and I know Erin is at
the forefront of this entire topic, this controversy, this conversation,
this battle really but my whole question and revolves around
kind of what I watched in the documentary What Is
a Woman by Matt Walsh of Daily Wire, which is
(27:07):
why the rush to trans these kids, whether it's medically, surgically, socially.
If there's a tie, meaning the mother in this case
is totally open to it, Oh yeah, let's trans our kid.
Speaker 2 (27:20):
That's cool.
Speaker 3 (27:21):
The dad is not to me. The tie should go
to restraint, meaning if you determine down the line, Hey,
this child turned into adult who wanted to identify as trans, Well,
then they can go ahead and live their life. How
are they wont But my whole question boils down to
this breckon what if they're wrong the other way around?
Meaning what if the Jeffco Public schools keeping this in
(27:43):
the dark from the father, not including him in the conversation,
the process, the discussion of the debate, they decide for him,
as he stated, they inserted themselves with parental authority. And
that's what this house built twenty five thirteen twelve is
going to do. It's now a waiting passage in the Senate.
Will see what happens from there. But what if they're
wrong the kid decides later in life, Oops, I didn't
(28:05):
want to do that. Now I want to detransition. This
is not exactly a process that is easily unwound or undone.
Speaker 7 (28:13):
No, that's exactly right. You know what if been wrong?
I mean, they don't leave any opportunity for being quote
unquote wrong in this situation because as as we've come
to find out, and as we know, this is an ideology.
This isn't a scientific or medical fact or anything to
do with medicine at all. You know, on a case
(28:33):
by case basis, it's hard to say why some parents
are willing to go down this road and why others aren't.
But you know, to the point of Bill thirteen twelve,
you know, in this case and others I've heard, you know,
they're the mother. You know, it's not always the mugg
but it is mostly the mother have been attempting to
groom their their children believing they're gay or bisexual or
(28:56):
eventually transgender in some sort of you know, social cloud
ch housens by proxy contest since the children were very young.
What thirteen twelve would open the door to is basically
having parents groomed their kids into thinking, or at least
saying that they are some kind of other sexual orientation
(29:19):
or identity or gender identity, and then using that as
of the end to be able to strip the right
the parenting rights of the other parents in the custody
battle from every decision making. You know, there are cases
I report about one two weeks ago, also in Colorado,
(29:39):
where it's further down the line than this case, where
the father has been totally taken out of all medical
decision making, can even has a gag order on him.
Can you even talk to the son, this fourteen year
old son about you know, basically saying you can't talk
to him about anything transgender because you know what if
(30:01):
what if you change his mind and he suddenly decides
he's not transgender anymore? Well, guess what that's not That's
not an option for these people. Because these people there's
a there's a school to hospital pipeline. People are making
money on this. There's succumb to the ideology. I mean,
this is some really insidious stuff.
Speaker 3 (30:19):
Insidious is a word for it. Dark and evil might
be two others. And you can read more of his
reporting at the Federalist dot com and it's exclusive parents
who don't want their children mutilated are under assault in Colorado,
which is absolutely true. And we are fortunate enough to
be joined by Dustin Gonzalez and Lori Gimmelstein tomorrow. But
on the forefront of this reporting is our guest right now,
(30:41):
and that is Brecon, theist.
Speaker 2 (30:43):
Brecon.
Speaker 3 (30:43):
Thank you so much, one for covering this story and
two for joining us here today.
Speaker 4 (30:48):
Thank you very much.
Speaker 3 (30:49):
Reckon Fiefs there your response and reaction at five seven
seven three nine, closing out this Wednesday edition of Ryan
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Speaker 2 (33:04):
This from Eric.
Speaker 3 (33:05):
He always signs in all caps. That's because he's important
and we love him, Ryan, you great American. I can
hear him saying that President Trump has on his radar.
The lady that was killed that day, like Ashley Babbitt,
a MAGA lady named Roseanne Boylan on Jan six was
killed by a Metro police officer beating her with his
night stick. It's on film at fedwatchdog dot org.
Speaker 2 (33:25):
Check it out.
Speaker 3 (33:26):
Three exclamation points, Eric, I'm glad you brought that to
my attention.
Speaker 2 (33:30):
I was not aware of this.
Speaker 3 (33:31):
Ashley Babbitt's a name that most people of our political
persuasion are very familiar with. And she was murdered, in
my opinion, unnecessarily, and a police officer that was basically
got away.
Speaker 2 (33:42):
Of murder on that day, and she was the one
who died. Brian Sichnik was not.
Speaker 3 (33:47):
Murdered that day. He was not hitting the head with
a fire extinguisher. He died of a subsequent stroke after
the matter. But that's not what Anderson Cooper and CNN reported.
Speaker 2 (33:57):
Ryan. If Jenna Griswold loses.
Speaker 3 (33:59):
The I think you means ag Race Bennett wins the
governor and then appoints Griswold to his former seat, well,
those are a lot of hoops the start of that.
And again, I hate to be the bearer of bad news.
But if we're playing the odds, and I'm just talking
straight betting markets here, Jenna Griswold is likely to be
the next Attorney General for Colorado. That is insane, It
(34:22):
is psychotically scary. But it is likely so that she
would lose that race and Bennett would win. I think
those don't jibe with one another, and I don't think
she would be the one that Michael Bennett wants to appoint.
Speaker 2 (34:36):
To his seat.
Speaker 3 (34:38):
My belief is, and you can check this out check
my work after the fact, it is going to be
Jonah Goose, and the motivation for that is to keep
him out of the race, to sideline him in exchange
for his endorsement to be rewarded by Michael Bennett as
governor appointing him after the fact, Jonah Goose to that seat.
(34:58):
And Kelly gives me the thumbs up for that analysis.
It isn't that much of a stretch to think about.
And like I said, when nine News and Kyle Clark
and the Denver Post are both calling you out, there's
a problem, and Michael Bennett either chooses to address it
or he doesn't. Ryan None the Wiser should leak that
Bennett offered the Senate seat if he drops out of
(35:19):
the governor's race.
Speaker 2 (35:21):
Offered it to whom is he? Blagoievitch chair, keep.
Speaker 3 (35:23):
An eye on him, Phil none the wiser, he will
be none the wiser truly if he doesn't use this
to his political advantage. He's got to go on offense here.
I'm just breaking it down like a would a sporting
event for two teams that I don't like playing each other.
Phil Wiser Michael Bennett. I don't have a preference.
Speaker 5 (35:39):
I don't.
Speaker 2 (35:40):
Neither's good.
Speaker 3 (35:41):
Bennett acts like it's his Senate seat to control, not
Colorado's seat. Might great point, that's true, and that's the
point that Comrade Kyle was making to Hey, why don't
you let the voters decide this or just leave it
up to governor Polus run your race for governor. But
he's not willing to do that, and you got to
ask yourself why not come that at length on this
program here today?
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Live
I'm here at the airport. I'm about to board my
flight for San Salvador. The goal of this mission is
to let the Trump administration, to let the government of
Al Salvador know that we are going to keep fighting
to bring Albrego Garcia home until he returns to his family.
I hope to meet with representatives of the government. I
(00:21):
hope to have a chance to actually see Kilmark and
see what his condition is. But we are going to
keep fighting because this is a miscarriage of justice. The
Supreme Court has ruled nine to zero, nine to zero
that he was illegally taken out of the country and
put in a prison in Al Salvador.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
Not sure.
Speaker 1 (00:43):
And this is about due process.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
This is about rule of law.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
What bullies do is they begin by picking on the
most vulnerable.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
But if we get rid of the rule of law.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
Due process the United States, it's a short road from
there to.
Speaker 3 (00:58):
Tyranny Maryland Democrat Chris van Holland, and there's a lot
of holes in his story as he presents it there
in this obvious publicity stunt done for optics, and the
sheer irony of this as a senator from Maryland chasing
down a person who has been deported to El Salvador
(01:19):
rightly a citizen of that country, who is not a
citizen of the United States, who was here illegally, who
had had his asylum hearing adjudicated in the negative, decided
to say, in this country, Kilmar Abrego Garcia, and he
is wrong.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
That is not what the Supreme Court ruled.
Speaker 3 (01:39):
The ruling was watery and nebulous, and even liberal legal
scholars are criticizing it, saying that the Trump administration needed
to help facilitate the return.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
Of Abrego Garcia. What does that mean? Help facilitate it?
Speaker 3 (01:53):
Provide a plane in case President Bukailey decided in El Salvare, yeah,
you know you want to send him back? That he
really doesn't stand the test of logic. This man was
an illegal alien. It is also being brought to light
that there were not one, but two personal protective orders
restraining orders filed against him by his wife. He was
(02:16):
a member of a union, he was gainfully employed. But
I'm struggling with why or how that would have happened
if he was not a legal resident of the United States.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
There's a lot of questions here.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
And Van Holland then followed up with the following, saying
that his request made to the Vice President of El
Salvador to visit Kilmar Abrego Garcia was denied. The Senator
said he was told by the Vice president, you need
to make it earlier provisions to visit Seacott Cecot. This
is from Ali Bradley to follow her on exit Ali
(02:50):
Bradley TV. She is the network correspondent covering the southern
border for News Nation and reporting on this. Continuing, Van
Holland says he wasn't able to meet with a Brigo
Garcia or have a phone conversation with him. The vice
President of El Salvador told him if the American embassy
were to ask quote, maybe that could happen unquote. Van
(03:12):
Holand says he will make the request to the embassy.
The Senator now calling on President Bukeley to let Abrigo
Garcia walk out of the prison and come back to
the US, saying he was abducted. The Trump administration maintains
that Abrigo Garcia is a member of MS thirteen. That's
another thing that's not just the Trump administration, saying that
that is the result of two courts ruling that he
(03:35):
had both plausible and apparent ties to MS thirteen. President
Buchayley says he is not going to release a Brigo
Garcia to smuggle him into the US, and he said
that in an Oval office meeting with President Trump joining us.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
Now, we hope he's feeling better.
Speaker 3 (03:52):
He is read stez on x, one of the best
follows on that platform, and he's the host of the
Versus Media podcast.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
He's also a Colorado resident. Steven L.
Speaker 3 (04:00):
Miller our guest on Ryan Shuling Live. Steven, how are
you feeling?
Speaker 4 (04:03):
Man'll find out how long this lasts?
Speaker 2 (04:08):
Yeah? And then you had also the emergency visit to
the vet.
Speaker 4 (04:12):
Right, He's all right, It was just like a backspasm,
but that all kind of coupled on it. It was
a day yesterday. So it's interesting because I'm pretty sure
this was the strain of strap throat going around, and
someone asked me, we're sure it's not COVID, And it's
so funny that I'm so far out of it that
I didn't even consider COVID an option anymore. And yet
we still have people walking around in mass and you know,
(04:33):
telling us to you know, stay safe. An't even considered
that it could be COVID it might be I don't know, yeah.
Speaker 3 (04:40):
And I'm interested in getting your commentary. And that's a
good sign though, that it's in the rear view mirror
and that we aren't even thinking about a front of
mine awareness. But Patty Morin, the mother of murdered Rachel,
who was killed by an illegal migrant here in Maryland,
by the way, was on with Sean Hannity last night
and she just appeared in the White House Press briefing
room at a press conference there.
Speaker 5 (05:01):
What are your.
Speaker 6 (05:02):
Thoughts on your senator going to bat for this illegal
But did he ever say anything to you and your
family about your loss, to ever call you, ever take
the time to be with you.
Speaker 5 (05:15):
No.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
Actually, I'm very angry.
Speaker 5 (05:17):
I'm actually outraged, but.
Speaker 3 (05:19):
I'm too sad at them put the show anger At
the same time, he did not call our family, He
did not give condolences.
Speaker 5 (05:29):
There was no action.
Speaker 7 (05:31):
On the Democratic Party in any way from Joe by Kamala, Harris,
My Orcus.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
Anyone here in Maryland.
Speaker 5 (05:42):
None of the senators did anything to help search for
the murderer of my daughter.
Speaker 3 (05:48):
What is the political calculation here in your mind as
you see it, Stephen, for Senator Chris Van Holland with
these two conflating stories.
Speaker 4 (05:58):
I think there are two things happening here. I think
you have a confusing judicial ruling on top of this.
There was an injunction, So whether or not you should
have been deported is again, like you said, there's.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
Some money legal debate here.
Speaker 4 (06:11):
I think what the Trump White House understands is that
this is an optics war and this is one of
the top issues of why Trump was re elected. It
was behind inflation, that was immigration. Then there was obviously
gender issues in schools, and White House with having her
speak and this is a woman who's doing this of
her own fruition. This isn't you know. You can argue
if it's a political stunt or not, but this is
(06:33):
a White House that understands that Democrats primarily operate on optics.
They have a mainstream that you know, network bastream media
behind them that can very much push their messaging for them.
And this is the White House that basically said, Okay,
we're going to show you, you know the effects of
unfedered illegal immigration and that results in the casualties of
(06:56):
American citizens that should all still be alive, and Democrats
simply do not have an answer for this. And so
when you have a Democratic senator getting on an airplane
and there's probably gonna be several more, and they're flying
down to El Salvadover to find the presence of someone
that two court injunctions suggests this person is a gang
member of some sort. He had two restraining orders put
on him by his either now life or at ben
(07:19):
was his future wife. And this is a case of
pick better heroes, guys. There are other cases, I think
where we can look at mistaken immigration, mistaken cases of deportation,
but that doesn't fit a Democratic party's demographic that they're
desperately tried to win back that they lost. And this
lost election, you have somebody in Donald Trump who is
very adept at media and playing the media and playing
(07:41):
an optics war. And simply put, when you bring out
a mother, whether it's related to this individual or not,
who says my daughter should still be here, it kind
of silences the media of it, and it certainly silence
is a Democratic Party to remind people what this is
actually all about. And so I guess I look at
this and I say to the Democratic Party, you guys
(08:02):
should start picking better examples, because the Trump administration really
has kind of co opted the Democratic Party's whole thing
of you know, here's a victim of planned parenthood or
pro life laws, or here's a victim of this, and
they truck these people out like it's Sandra Flucker or whomever,
and Trump is only simply using tactics against them. And
(08:22):
this has kind of been his whole thing throughout his
entire political career.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
Steven L.
Speaker 3 (08:26):
Miller Red Stee's on X You can follow him there.
You can also listen to his Versus Media podcast. One
other thing that I needed you to comment on here, Stephen,
because she's been kind of at the top of our
menu several times in conversations, but seems I'll do herself
with every public comment that she makes. And that's Taylor
Lorenz making this comment about Luigi Mangioni, who is on
(08:48):
trial for his life, potentially sentenced to death because he
murdered open on the street. The United Healthcare CEO Luigi
Mangioni is the one in question.
Speaker 8 (09:00):
Hilarious to see these millionaire media pundits on TV clutching
their pearls about someone standing a murderer when this is
the United States of America, as if we don't lionize criminals,
as if we don't have you know, we don't stan
murderers of all sorts, and we give them Netflix shows.
There's a huge disconnect between the narratives and angles or
(09:23):
mainstream media pushes and what the American public feels. And
you see that in moments like this. And I can
tell you I saw the biggest audience growth that I've
ever seen because people were like, Oh, somebody, some journalists
is actually speaking to the anger that we feel.
Speaker 4 (09:39):
Is that the case here, Stephen, No, It's obviously it's
not the case. This is a woman who exists in
a very very small online bubble and how she makes
her name. And this interview happened on CNN with a
misinformation tech reporter named Donnie Sullivan. And I actually don't
(10:01):
think Talel Lorenz is the problem in this interview.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
Everyone is well aware of who she.
Speaker 5 (10:05):
Is in the media.
Speaker 4 (10:05):
By now. I actually think she's the most honest person
in all of mainstream media. She has to conduit to
what these other people wish they could actually say. And
I think the problem here is you have CNN and
kind of warming up to this and you have a
new reporter who is attempting to view the world through
a prism of right wing violence, and this is what
(10:26):
his show is about. And in order to do so,
the three main instances he can name about how right
wing extremism there's no equivalent on the left is January sixth,
which is an incident that happened five years ago, Charlottesville,
which is an incdent that happened in twenty seventeen, and
only two months prior to the Alexandria baseball field shooting
in Oklahoma City, which was thirty years ago. And in
(10:48):
order to pull off this rhetorical act that he's doing,
he has to ignore the fact that there are TESTLA
factories on fire this year. He has to ignore the
fact that there were two assassination attempts on the Republican
nominee Donald Trump. He has to ignore the fact at
just this week, the Pennsylvania Governor's mansion was just set
on fire by a martist anarchist. This is someone who
(11:11):
has to completely ignore the rampant violence that we've seen
pretty much since Occupied Wall Street in this country in
order to justify the fact that some people making some
YouTube videos and that's the rise of extremism on the
political right. To me, Taylor Lorenza's this is who she is,
and everyone's been well aware of this, and that's why
the Washington Posts in New York Times were forced to
(11:32):
cut ties with her. While her quote there is, of
course it's you know, Tiger beat fangirling for assassinations dot com.
This is somebody who everyone knows who she is. And
when you have CNN still trying to pull this January
sixth act, we had an election this last November, and
I think that that was a pretty resounding answer to
what people thought about January sixth.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
It was a very bad day.
Speaker 4 (11:53):
But the lawfare that happened through the Biden administration that
stemmed from that brought us even further down these preslopes
of legal lawfare. A So, yeah, I get.
Speaker 5 (12:04):
Taylor, and I get this.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
She's doing this act.
Speaker 4 (12:06):
She's doing it for audience growth. She fully admits it,
but she fully is honest about who she is and
what she believes. And again, she's sort of a John
Stewart type in the sense of that she says the
things that a lot of journalists wish they could actually say.
You know, they can only.
Speaker 3 (12:21):
Test me not along with Catcher's latest on a substack
that is the Versus Media podcast and follow him on
x at Red.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
Steve Stephen L. Miller.
Speaker 3 (12:29):
Glad to hear you sounding good. Hopefully you feel even
better tomorrow and we'll talk to.
Speaker 2 (12:32):
You again soon.
Speaker 4 (12:34):
We'll see there's still about thirteen fourteen hours ago.
Speaker 3 (12:37):
We'll see yeah, day and over yet, that's true, and
it ain't over for us either. Here on Ryan Schuling
live and joining us now. He's the CEO of Newsmax.
So excited to be joined by Chris Ruddy. I've interviewed
him before and eager to get an update on what
Newsmax is doing next. Chris, thank you so much for
your time.
Speaker 5 (12:54):
Well, Ryan, always great to be on with you. Thank
you for having me now one of dighting times.
Speaker 3 (12:59):
That's the word exciting, and why I'm excited is where
Newsmax is going. You're talking about a successful ipo New
York Stock Exchange. You rang the opening bell. A lot
of people are nervous about where the markets are right now.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
You are not. Why not?
Speaker 5 (13:16):
Well, actually we went out on March thirty first, we
went public on the New York Stock Exchange and you know,
the market's been really in a correction mode since then,
but we've gone up over one hundred percent, sometimes quite
more than that. And I think it's a significant sign
that investors like Newsmas that we've developed a tremendous reach,
(13:39):
you know, with the fourth highest rated cable news channel
in America. Reuter's Institute says, we're one of the top
twelve news brands in the whole United States, and it's
an amazing outpouring. You know. We think we are in
a media news revolution here, taking back the media. We're
reaching about forty million people regularly now and it all
(14:00):
started with a website and talk radio host Speak Yourself
Ryan that said Newsmax is the place to go to
or go online. Now they're going to our cable channel
or downloading our free app, and it's an amazing I
think it's a grassroots revolution, much like we're seeing with
President Trump, you know, where he has just the people.
(14:22):
I mean, the media was ninety percent against him in
the last election, and yet he won more than half
the country. So I think it's a sign that people
are really really excited about what we're doing. And I
might add that people can certainly go speak to their stockbroker.
Look us up at newsmaxinvest dot com. We have a
lot of our sec filings there as well.
Speaker 3 (14:45):
Follow him on X at Chris Ruddy NmX. That's short
for Newsmax there. He is the CEO joining us here today.
One of the things I appreciate about your insight, Chris,
is it comes with personal knowledge of the president. It
might be slightly different what you hear behind the scenes
with what people are seeing portrayed, especially in media that's
(15:06):
not Newsmax. So as directly as you can articulate it
for our listeners, what do you glean from President Trump
when it comes to his economic policy, his plans on
the international stage, when it comes to tariffs, those cost
cutting managers along those lines, and where you feel the
economy is heading under his leadership.
Speaker 5 (15:27):
Well, it's a good question. Probably a long answer we'll
give to this short version. You know, I've known President
Trump for almost thirty years. We've been friends. I think
Newsmax is probably the earliest media to start saying, hey,
this man could or should be president, and he really
likes Newsmax. He comes on quite a bit and he
has said that we're terrific and so We appreciate that
(15:50):
support from a sitting president of the United States. You know,
I've talked to him just several times. Last week we
talked about the tariffs. You know, the President, to be clear,
he's really not for tariffs. I mean, he wants tarists
for the car industry because he thinks that's important for
national security. He is for using tariffs as a weapon
(16:11):
or tool for leverage to get better trade deals. He
wants fair trade deals, and he only gets that if
he plays hard and tough, because we've been the sucker.
China has had tariffs against all our products, many of
them for decades, and yet they come into our country.
(16:33):
Until the first time million there is small ten percent taris.
The President said that's unfair, and so he's trying to
level the playing field now. And that's going to be
good in the long run that he does these deals.
In a short run, there might be some price increases,
some instability and predictability, but you know, I think that
(16:55):
it's the tariffs. So basically, what is a good policy
he's using to get better trade to open up markets
to our businesses.
Speaker 2 (17:04):
Chris Ruddy is the CEO of Newsmax.
Speaker 3 (17:07):
Of course, you can find it on your preferred platform,
whether that's Hulu or anywhere else. You can search them
out and find them, and you can also for just
stock in them now after their initial public offering, which
is Chris stated, happened at the end.
Speaker 2 (17:20):
Of last month.
Speaker 3 (17:21):
So, Chris, the decision to go public with that, I
think it adds a layer of credibility and stability to
the Newsmax brand. And no doubt you've included that as
part of your analysis, But can you take us through
exactly what went into that decision.
Speaker 2 (17:35):
And why you felt it was important to do that.
Speaker 5 (17:39):
Well, you know, we have been in the in the
internet business for decades. We were one of the founders
newsmax dot com and then we started cable channel ten
years ago. We've had an incredible growth. You know, last
quarter we had thirty three million Americans tuned in to Newsmax.
That was up from twenty two million that did it
(17:59):
in the first quarter of twenty twenty four, So we
had a fifty percent growth in total audience. That rarely
happens in any media that you have such huge, great
growth over such big numbers, And I think it's a
sign that we are people are checking out Newsmacs on
their cable channels, on their OTT platforms. They like us.
(18:22):
They're numbers, The numbers are sticking, and we felt like
we're so close to overtaking CNN and ratings. Why don't
we partner with tens of thousands, hundreds of thousands of
Americans that are shareholders. And that's why we actually invite
people to become a shareholder in Newsmas. Of course they
should talk to their advisor, they should read our filings
(18:42):
on newsmasinvest dot com. But we think it's a great
thing and a good thing, and it says shows support
for our mission, which is to take back the media
in this country. We've had a very big eesfect and
the media, you know, even thoughts I think everybody agrees,
is changing quite a bit. It's not what it used
to be. The man that founded it is a very
great man on my book, Rupert Murdoch, but his kids
(19:05):
are not going to follow through, I believe, on the
same legacy they proposed President Trump in several elections now
and I think playing a bit of a game with
their viewers, Newsmax has been very straightforward, and I think
that's why President Trump likes us so much.
Speaker 3 (19:22):
Newsmax Once again, it's CEO Chris Ruddy joining us here.
Final question, Chris, We appreciate your time. We know how
busy you are and I always get a lot of
great new details from you, including this new initial public
offering and Newsmas being open and available on the stock market.
But where it goes from here you've touched on it
a little bit, but what your vision is for Newsmax
(19:44):
going into the future. You mentioned overtaking CNN in the ratings.
That's a goal, but one of the mechanics that you
see behind getting there and why viewers that might be
in our listening audience are so important to that cause. Well, Ryan,
another great question, and I you know people the old days,
you know radio is radio, newspapers or newspapers very siloed.
(20:06):
Now you basically have to be on all platforms. Newsmax
is on cable, we're on streaming, we're on the Internet,
we do emails, we're on social media, all the major
social We have twenty million, about twenty million followers in
social media. And what I believe the media of the
future has to be like a news station which is
on all the platforms, multiplatform, and we were one of
(20:30):
the innovators on this and that's why we're on so
many different systems. And I think that we also have
a successful business or revenues have.
Speaker 5 (20:38):
Grown over three hundred percent in the past five years. Again,
this is a rarity in media, and I think that
it's really important that we continue taking back media and
that could be growth in cable TV, on broadcast TV, radio, podcasts.
Digital means our app is free. You can download it
and listen or watch Newsmaga anywhere in the world using it.
(21:02):
Uh So it's a very exciting thing for us. But
our I would say the future is to be all
for all, do all platforms for all the people. And
in fact, that sounds like a pretty good slogan. All
for all. Yeah, I like that.
Speaker 2 (21:17):
Yeah, maybe we'll go with that. And you broke it
right here.
Speaker 5 (21:20):
I say, Jamie credit Ryan Akamax dot com how to
come out of Colorado in years.
Speaker 3 (21:28):
Well, that is high praise coming from one Chris Ruddy,
the CEO of Newsmax. You can find him online newsmax
dot com and on X follow him at Chris Ruddy
and m X that's for Newsmax or Newsmax writ large
in general at Newsmax.
Speaker 2 (21:42):
It's just that simple. Chris.
Speaker 3 (21:44):
Always appreciate catching up with you and the news that
you bring to the table. It's always something and we'll
look forward to the next conversation.
Speaker 5 (21:51):
Great, Ryan, really appreciate you and we'll be giving you
updates on newsmaxs and more. So thank you again.
Speaker 3 (21:57):
All right, literally, stay tuned and if you watch NEWSMAC,
it's good for you. You're a head of the curve
right there. And we appreciate Chris Ruddy for joining us
in that double dip segment.
Speaker 2 (22:06):
You got Steven L. Miller, you got Chris Ruddy. I'm
doing this for you.
Speaker 3 (22:09):
I'm doing this for Zach mixed his podcast editing a
little bit easier. Just put the names of the guests
and who they were and there we go. And we
got another one coming up straight ahead, So stay tuned
for this. We've been following this story and it's very
important and we'll have more details on this coming up
tomorrow as well. Dustin Gonzalez, you may have seen his
(22:29):
clip go viral. He is a father fighting against the
gender transitioning of his child by you guessed it, jeffco
Public Schools. The journalist who broke this story form the
mainstream media. At the Federalist. Breckon Feast joins us next
to talk more about that after this on Ryan Schuling Life.
Speaker 2 (22:53):
I'm in Lakewood District too.
Speaker 9 (22:56):
I'm not a politician, an alloud voice on social media,
a quiet one when it goes to work, tries to
do right by his family and stays out.
Speaker 2 (23:04):
Of the spotlight.
Speaker 9 (23:05):
But now now you're gonna remember my name. You remember
it because I'm not just fighting from my daughter. I'm
finding make sure that what happens to me to my
family never happens to another parent in this district. My
daughter changed her identity, not after years of discussion or
family dialogue. Now if your joint input from both of
her parents.
Speaker 2 (23:25):
No, this happened quickly, secretly, encourage my school.
Speaker 9 (23:28):
Appointed therapist and a system that never thought to include me.
Speaker 2 (23:32):
And the school did inform me. They didn't include me,
they didn't even ask me. They replaced me. Wow.
Speaker 3 (23:38):
Dustin Gonzalez is in passion plea that that a Jeffco's
school board meeting. He is the father of a child
that was tranced without his knowledge, without his consent, by
the child's birth mother, with the aid of district administrators
and a so called therapist appointed by the school. Now
we have more details on this from our next guest.
(24:00):
He broke this news in the mainstream media for the
Federalist and he joins us now on Ryan Schuling Live
recon cease, our guest becon.
Speaker 2 (24:07):
Thank you for your time.
Speaker 3 (24:10):
Now, I know you took the time not only to
investigate this story, but to have those conversations with Dustin
and others. Take us through what you were able to
uncover and what people need to know.
Speaker 7 (24:21):
Yeah, you know this is this is a case where
a father is trying to de basically save his twelve
year old daughter from a lifetime of pain suffering drugs
and medical procedures, and the mother is apparently forced transitioning
the daughter and using that as a weapon and a
custody battle, and the mother is winning. You know that.
(24:42):
That's sort of how Colorado courts have been set up
in the past several years, where it's an affirmation only model.
You could you're going to always favor the parent who
wants to sort of mutilate and sterilize their child as
opposed to a parent who's saying, well, slow down, let's
have a conversation.
Speaker 2 (25:02):
About this and let's stop this.
Speaker 7 (25:04):
And you can hear that passion in his voice. You know,
Colorado has become an extremely dangerous state for parents who
don't want their children to transition genders. Unfortunately, as you
pointed out, you know, this story has a familiar pattern.
It starts with a school that starts proceeding what is
known as a social transition, which is, you know, calling
(25:25):
children by different names and pronouns and using restrooms at
the opposite sex and concealing that from parents. In this
particular case, it appears that the school was able to
find one parent, the mother, who would be a willing
participant in eventually sterilizing, immutilating their child. And and that's
sort of how you get go to the school apparently
(25:47):
knew about the twelve year old thinking that they were
a different gender or a different identity, months before the
mother knew. The mother new months before the father knew.
Speaker 2 (25:57):
I mean, this is just this is just not how
should be done.
Speaker 3 (26:01):
His article is entitled exclusive parents who don't want their
children mutilated are under assault in Colorado. That is absolutely true.
Brecon Theist our guest from the Federalist. You can find
that article at the Federalist dot com. Follow him on
x at brecon f feast. That's b R e cc
an letter f thhi E s Reckon the question I'm
(26:22):
going to ask, it is open to interpretation on the answer,
but I'm just basing it on your journalistic exploration this topic.
I've had this conversation with Aaron Lee. She is a
parent formerly in the Pooter School district whose daughter was
indoctrinated and it was ostensibly described as an art club.
It was nothing, but it was anything but that, and
(26:45):
had to go through intense counseling to reverse that process.
That's just one example, and I know Erin is at
the forefront of this entire topic, this controversy, this conversation,
this battle really but my whole question and revolves around
kind of what I watched in the documentary What Is
a Woman by Matt Walsh of Daily Wire, which is
(27:07):
why the rush to trans these kids, whether it's medically, surgically, socially.
If there's a tie, meaning the mother in this case
is totally open to it, Oh yeah, let's trans our kid.
Speaker 2 (27:20):
That's cool.
Speaker 3 (27:21):
The dad is not to me. The tie should go
to restraint, meaning if you determine down the line, Hey,
this child turned into adult who wanted to identify as trans, Well,
then they can go ahead and live their life. How
are they wont But my whole question boils down to
this breckon what if they're wrong the other way around?
Meaning what if the Jeffco Public schools keeping this in
(27:43):
the dark from the father, not including him in the conversation,
the process, the discussion of the debate, they decide for him,
as he stated, they inserted themselves with parental authority. And
that's what this house built twenty five thirteen twelve is
going to do. It's now a waiting passage in the Senate.
Will see what happens from there. But what if they're
wrong the kid decides later in life, Oops, I didn't
(28:05):
want to do that. Now I want to detransition. This
is not exactly a process that is easily unwound or undone.
Speaker 7 (28:13):
No, that's exactly right. You know what if been wrong?
I mean, they don't leave any opportunity for being quote
unquote wrong in this situation because as as we've come
to find out, and as we know, this is an ideology.
This isn't a scientific or medical fact or anything to
do with medicine at all. You know, on a case
(28:33):
by case basis, it's hard to say why some parents
are willing to go down this road and why others aren't.
But you know, to the point of Bill thirteen twelve,
you know, in this case and others I've heard, you know,
they're the mother. You know, it's not always the mugg
but it is mostly the mother have been attempting to
groom their their children believing they're gay or bisexual or
(28:56):
eventually transgender in some sort of you know, social cloud
ch housens by proxy contest since the children were very young.
What thirteen twelve would open the door to is basically
having parents groomed their kids into thinking, or at least
saying that they are some kind of other sexual orientation
(29:19):
or identity or gender identity, and then using that as
of the end to be able to strip the right
the parenting rights of the other parents in the custody
battle from every decision making. You know, there are cases
I report about one two weeks ago, also in Colorado,
(29:39):
where it's further down the line than this case, where
the father has been totally taken out of all medical
decision making, can even has a gag order on him.
Can you even talk to the son, this fourteen year
old son about you know, basically saying you can't talk
to him about anything transgender because you know what if
(30:01):
what if you change his mind and he suddenly decides
he's not transgender anymore? Well, guess what that's not That's
not an option for these people. Because these people there's
a there's a school to hospital pipeline. People are making
money on this. There's succumb to the ideology. I mean,
this is some really insidious stuff.
Speaker 3 (30:19):
Insidious is a word for it. Dark and evil might
be two others. And you can read more of his
reporting at the Federalist dot com and it's exclusive parents
who don't want their children mutilated are under assault in Colorado,
which is absolutely true. And we are fortunate enough to
be joined by Dustin Gonzalez and Lori Gimmelstein tomorrow. But
on the forefront of this reporting is our guest right now,
(30:41):
and that is Brecon, theist.
Speaker 2 (30:43):
Brecon.
Speaker 3 (30:43):
Thank you so much, one for covering this story and
two for joining us here today.
Speaker 4 (30:48):
Thank you very much.
Speaker 3 (30:49):
Reckon Fiefs there your response and reaction at five seven
seven three nine, closing out this Wednesday edition of Ryan
Schuling Live after this. Okay, so now for most of you,
your taxes are in their ear.
Speaker 2 (31:00):
That was yesterday.
Speaker 3 (31:01):
You filed, you got the deadline, you got the extension.
You're done with it. Deep sigh of relief. Congratulations, you
got it done. But it's time to turn the page,
and it's time for another season. And in almost analogous fashion,
we see this happening in the NBA playoffs. The Nuggets
got rid of their head coach, got rid of their
general manager, cleaned house. They're going to start the playoffs
on Saturday at home against the Los Angeles Clippers.
Speaker 2 (31:24):
That's a one thirty pm tip time.
Speaker 3 (31:26):
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(33:01):
Finishing up with your text at five seven, seven thirty nine.
Speaker 2 (33:04):
This from Eric.
Speaker 3 (33:05):
He always signs in all caps. That's because he's important
and we love him, Ryan, you great American. I can
hear him saying that President Trump has on his radar.
The lady that was killed that day, like Ashley Babbitt,
a MAGA lady named Roseanne Boylan on Jan six was
killed by a Metro police officer beating her with his
night stick. It's on film at fedwatchdog dot org.
Speaker 2 (33:25):
Check it out.
Speaker 3 (33:26):
Three exclamation points, Eric, I'm glad you brought that to
my attention.
Speaker 2 (33:30):
I was not aware of this.
Speaker 3 (33:31):
Ashley Babbitt's a name that most people of our political
persuasion are very familiar with. And she was murdered, in
my opinion, unnecessarily, and a police officer that was basically
got away.
Speaker 2 (33:42):
Of murder on that day, and she was the one
who died. Brian Sichnik was not.
Speaker 3 (33:47):
Murdered that day. He was not hitting the head with
a fire extinguisher. He died of a subsequent stroke after
the matter. But that's not what Anderson Cooper and CNN reported.
Speaker 2 (33:57):
Ryan. If Jenna Griswold loses.
Speaker 3 (33:59):
The I think you means ag Race Bennett wins the
governor and then appoints Griswold to his former seat, well,
those are a lot of hoops the start of that.
And again, I hate to be the bearer of bad news.
But if we're playing the odds, and I'm just talking
straight betting markets here, Jenna Griswold is likely to be
the next Attorney General for Colorado. That is insane, It
(34:22):
is psychotically scary. But it is likely so that she
would lose that race and Bennett would win. I think
those don't jibe with one another, and I don't think
she would be the one that Michael Bennett wants to appoint.
Speaker 2 (34:36):
To his seat.
Speaker 3 (34:38):
My belief is, and you can check this out check
my work after the fact, it is going to be
Jonah Goose, and the motivation for that is to keep
him out of the race, to sideline him in exchange
for his endorsement to be rewarded by Michael Bennett as
governor appointing him after the fact, Jonah Goose to that seat.
(34:58):
And Kelly gives me the thumbs up for that analysis.
It isn't that much of a stretch to think about.
And like I said, when nine News and Kyle Clark
and the Denver Post are both calling you out, there's
a problem, and Michael Bennett either chooses to address it
or he doesn't. Ryan None the Wiser should leak that
Bennett offered the Senate seat if he drops out of
(35:19):
the governor's race.
Speaker 2 (35:21):
Offered it to whom is he? Blagoievitch chair, keep.
Speaker 3 (35:23):
An eye on him, Phil none the wiser, he will
be none the wiser truly if he doesn't use this
to his political advantage. He's got to go on offense here.
I'm just breaking it down like a would a sporting
event for two teams that I don't like playing each other.
Phil Wiser Michael Bennett. I don't have a preference.
Speaker 5 (35:39):
I don't.
Speaker 2 (35:40):
Neither's good.
Speaker 3 (35:41):
Bennett acts like it's his Senate seat to control, not
Colorado's seat. Might great point, that's true, and that's the
point that Comrade Kyle was making to Hey, why don't
you let the voters decide this or just leave it
up to governor Polus run your race for governor. But
he's not willing to do that, and you got to
ask yourself why not come that at length on this
program here today?
Speaker 2 (36:01):
And I appreciate you tuning in
Speaker 3 (36:03):
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