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back, Jennifer. Only winners makeit to Victory Lane. Jennifer, you
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please love just wait for your applausebefore thank you, thank you, thank
you very much, Jennifer. I'dlike to thank my parents. I'd like
to thank Dan Miller. I'd liketo thank Dana McDaniel, who actually hired
me at Fox two. How manyyears ago was that? Twenty twenty five?
That's not okay. I think wewent all over. They're so old
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diatribe the last time us here?Can we start for New Year? Knew
me exactly who? But I'm sohappy you're here, Jennifer two. First
of all, Happy New Year.And I think this is the last day
I could tell you Happy New Year. You're one of those well, I
mean according to Larry David. Oh, I do love me some Larry davidw
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year. Eh, it's a littlelate, frankly for the happy New Years.
You know why just happened a coupleof weeks ago, right, Yeah,
that's too long a statue to limitationsit's kind of are out on the
New Years. Three days plenty threedays, three days. This is a
third day, Sunday, bun day. Oh it's Wednesday. It's past the
three days. I'm going to playspoiler here. Turn off the podcast for
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thirty seconds if you've not done yourwordle yet. Okay, I thought for
sure third was the word for wordletoday, because it's the third of January.
I got three of them, threeof the letters right in the correct
places. Yeah, can I fullspoil twirl? Oh? So I got
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the T and the eye in theR in the right places. Put it
in real quick. But my secondguess was third. I'm like, oh,
she's clever. You know the wordlady lives in ann Arbor. I
thought, wait a minute, ohyeah, the New York Times wordle woman
who makes up the words lives nearit in the It's great for the brain.
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I used to do a word gameand then it ran out like I
was. I reached the limit,and now I play solitaire. Every you
know solitaire, I'm like my mother, you know what, It's okay,
that's a good thing to be.Yes, I'm exacting more and more like
my mother every year too, AndI chuckle about it anyway, getting off
wordle and back to New Year.So I will no longer wish you people
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a happy New Year. Well pastit's it's the expiration date. So I'm
going to go against the grain onthis one or against you that I think
it goes all the way until nextweekend through next weekend. See that's too
long. So any person that youhave one week, one full week,
every person you see that you haven'tseen since last year, you wish them
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a happy New Year. Like II got to be a special person.
I'm not gonna do it to everybody, like right, Like somebody in the
grocery store, Happy New Year.Maybe to the grocery clerk. That's a
special person. Yeah, there's aguy. There's a guy I like it
Kroger. And there's another one Ilike over at Holiday Market. Yeah,
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there's some people that are going toget a happy Hey, Frank, my
guy at Market Square in Birmingham,he's going to get a happy New Year
the first time I see him.Well, of course, like the people
that make me feel warm and happyget a happy New Year. Right,
But somebody that you've seen, you'renot gonna again wish them a happy New
Year. I'm just saying there's nodouble happy new Year. Yeah, I
hope not. But I go withLarry David. I think three days that's
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it, we're done. I gowith Larry David on a lot of things.
This one, I'm going to buckthe trend. All right, Well,
let's agree with ld. Let's agreeto disagree. It's just like talk
about guys that are like just sardonicand ironic and sony negative, so dry,
dry, obtuseies everything everything you lovebecause he's so freaking corner. But
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there's a guy like there are certainpeople that you see on TV, you
know, and you say, youknow what, I could be friends with
them, like you know what Imean, even though probably not because they're
not the same. I mean they'replaying a character, right, But Larry
David, I think is exactly likehe is. That's him. And that's
the question, right is Larry David? I think? I think so?
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And I would love to I couldbe his friend. He's a cool dude.
Yeah, like that is there oneperson on the TV like Chandler?
I cannot may he rest from friend? I would love to be friends,
but we all know he was notthe same as he is not a character,
but so Leslie Warren. She dida show and I'm blanking on the
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name of it. She used tobe a scriptwriter for Saturday Night Live.
Uh huh, she did a show. I'm gonna we'll have to google it.
Zach you fast millennial, you withyour phone? And she just cracks
me up. And she just asfunny as Zack. Why do I know
that name? I feel like,darn it, I gotta I gotta figure
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out the name of the show.But she's a cool chick. She's just
like, she's just a mom who'sa minor train wreck, but doesn't take
herself too seriously. She's self deprecating. She's just great her character. I
wonder, because you're on TV ifpeople say that about you, like,
that's somebody I can hang with,Like she seems like a cool chick.
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So sometimes people will want to,like drink a beer with me, or
drink a been with me, orsup a cigar with me, And I'm
all down for that because I don'tknow. I feel like, when I
who I am on TV or radioor air is what I am? Do
you think I think? So youknow me? Both ways? Yeah?
Both ways? Yes, I thinkyou're the same. I mean I I
I what you see is what youget exactly. I mean, there's not
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It's not like I'm I'm some kindof aloof. I had somebody. No,
no, no, you're not.You're not a wallflower, not a
nobody puts baby in the corner,no shrinking pilot. I remember when I
was working in Kansas City and Iwas at this event and afterwards, I
was sitting I went to my car. Somebody came out to me and goes,
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you know, you're not as bitchyas I thought you were. I
love that one. You know whichone I really love. You're much smaller
in person. I'm like, okay, thank you. That's a that's a
compliment. I mean I would takethat. The guy in the airport shuttle
so that he's like, boy,you look so big on TV and I'm
like, oh, you don't,thank you, No, you don't.
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TV does add ten pounds. I'mnot a waif and I am short,
but you can really tell how shortI am when I stand next to DJ
and Lomas on the pregame show.Then I'm like, teeny tiny, beany
dony. But of course there isa lot too unpack the Lions losing in
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Dallas against the Cowboys and because ofthat debac Now, okay, so do
we need to set the scene?I swear to God if I have to
hear about it one more time,but we have to set the scene with
what happened. It was they scoreda touchdown twenty three seconds left to go.
Instead of kicking the extra point,Dan Campbell's going for the win,
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go for two, Dan gamble right, love it so love that kind of
ballsy approach. So you have PinneySewel, you have Dan Skipper running out.
It was after it it was Let'sthen, if we're gonna tell this
story, we're gonna tell it accurately. Okay. Taylor Decker walked over to
Brad Allen after Sewell was with himon his left right, They said,
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after Jared Goff in the huddle saidyou gotta go report, right, Okay,
he goes over. He goes overwith Sewel to create a little deception,
right, But could I ask toask you something to me? What's
the point of deception? So thatthe Cowboys aren't right? But what the
referees are going to announce anyway andannounce that Taylor Decker is eligible. You
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know, maybe sometimes they don't hear, they just see. There's a lot
of different situations and scenarios going on, especially twenty three minutes left in a
game and Dan Skipper's running off thesideline. Skipper never makes it to Brad
Allen, although he had reported,I don't know on how many plays,
how many dozen he did pay yeahbefore that moment, and I think that
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Brad Allen just saw seventy five hisway while sixty eight standing in front of
him, saying I report or reportwhatever the words are. He bi league
protocol has to utter and brand Allenannounced it over the microphone in the stadium.
Some people on the sideline heard it, some didn't. In the press
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box, you hear it very clearlybecause it's Mike right into the PA right.
Dan Campbell does whar one ear.His right ear is open on his
headset always, so he's going hisleft ear covered, right ear open.
You know, Yeah, bad breakbad. But here's the thing. So
three shots at it, three shotsat a two point conversion. So obviously
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Decker was called ineligible. Ineligible.I knew this one in seventh grade.
Yeah, ineligible illegal touching. Ibelieve it is now called anyway what.
I was confused, and then Iwatched it a million times, and I
was still confused. Really, youwatched it in a million times, or
people showed it to you a milliontimes. People showed it. It's been
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everywhere I know. I tried algorithmsin my social media are so I've tried
to watch every angle or everything.And then after a while I got okay,
I can't take it anymore enough andI'm tired. And then and then
you get sick of hearing everyone's opinionand everyone's this, and then it just
it's like, okay, I'm withDC, move on exactly. But here's
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Campbell after the game. I'll talkabout it. I love that. Then
well, and he was frustrated,and we love dB because Burkat just asks
the right questions. And then hesaid, even would you be mad?
Wouldn't you be frustrated? But youknow what else I liked And afterwards it
goes, I'm not I don't meanto yell at you, and you got
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to appreciate from it just from ahuman being standpoint that he knew he did
know this about yes, okay,So we had time to reflect right after
and well Monday, here's one thing. If we can just stick on Saturday
night for one more minute the onlyplace I mean, and there were other
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elements of that game certainly right,That's what I think, because the Derek
Barnes mistackle outrageous. What I reallywish is that Dan Campbell by the third
time I actually tweeted, I said, you know what, when the when
the universe nods to you, sometimesyou have to listen to her. By
that third may just say, youknow what, I'm gonna kick the extra
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point. Shit is not going ourway something, you know what. Somebody's
trying to tell me something, andI'm gonna listen. And I think he
was so mad. I don't knowif mad. I know it was that
emotion. I think he was sointent on getting two in that situation and
ticked probably still at the officials becausehe had gone through it in pregame.
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He had gone through it with BradAllen. I don't think Brad. He
was not part of the pregame meeting, as we learned later, but he
pulled him aside before the game andspoke to him one on one mano amano
and said, Hey, we're goingto do this trick play. If it
comes down to it, and wecan go for two, here's what we're
gonna do. So it didn't gowell for them. It was a bad
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thing. Should it have not comedown to that? No, And I
agree with everyone saying they should havewon it sooner. They could have won
it sooner. That Hutch kick whenHutch when the Dallas player was called for
tripping, it was really Hutch kickin his life. So you gotta look
at right. Yeah, so manythings went wrong, But at the end
of the day, when you comefrom behind despite all the crap that went
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wrong, and you still have anopportunity and you lose like that, it
stings. But can you help yourselfand not make the same mistake three times?
Absolutely? First, you're listening tothe same old podcast. I'm Ron
de Moss with Iheartsport It's Network alongwith Jennifer Hammond from Fox to I sometimes
think when Dan Campbell does stuff likethat that he doesn't fully and he'll never
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admit it. Trust the defense andthat and I'll and I'm sticking with that.
I think he trusts his defense.I definitely think he and I will
say this, the defense had beenplaying really well just at that in that
last well, they absolutely stopped therun I think sixty two yards. Yeah,
so they were good, but theygave up seven to ced Lambs.
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Two of that was the fact thatthey gave up to twenty seven to Lamb
and only gave up twenty points halfof what Dallas was averaging. Dallas was
averaging like nine points per game athome. Yeah, it had won twenty
two straight at home going into thatgame, and then here comes the Lions
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with a Maligne secondary. Let's justsay it again, Melafon. Wow,
this guy man, where's gonna comefrom? He has been impressive. Hutch
what did he have? Three sacks? I mean it was. It was
really as much as the numbers didn'tsay, it was dominating. It was
definitely a statement game for the Lions, and I love that. Aiden Hutchinson
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said right after the game, Great, bring it. We're gonna come back
and we're gonna meet him in theplayoffs and then we're gonna kick him in
the teeth again. Okay, here'sthe thing with that. The Cowboys didn't
do anything for that, Like it'snot like they caused the illegal touchhams or
whatever. So I don't get thevitriol towards the Cowboys. I think it
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is more of a that's fine,we'll get screwed in Dallas and we'll see
Dallas again and we'll be we'll handleour business. We won't let it come
down to this. I think wasmore of that kind of statement and intention.
I don't think it had anything todo with Dallas screwing them. But
I mean, obviously, Aiden Hutchinsonis Detroit Kidd knows about the Pedigrew lag,
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the pass interference. I know thatwas picked I was called and then
picked up in the playoff game.And you know, Aiden Hutchinson is well
aware of the history of the Lionsgetting screwed, especially in Dallas in the
postseason, and so I'm sure thatit was there could have been some of
that, right, But I alsothink you have to stop with the woe
is me and they're out to getus and all that stuff that fans right,
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And I don't believe that. AndI like what Dan Campbell said,
and he said, no, don'tdon't don't do that. Don't do it.
I know, I get it,but don't do that. You know,
don't buy into that. Don't livein that world. Man, I'll
just pull you down and it makesyou feel any better. The NFL's against
every team. You know, wehadn't even started the tournament, so this
is I think it's a blessing.I would tell fans, don't do it.
Don't even believe that we're just gettingstarted. See listen to Dan Campbell.
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I believe in Dan Campbell and DanI trust one hundred percent. So
there's a great saying. And Itweeted this as well. Life is what
happens to you. Ninety percent ishow you react or respond. And I
think one of the things I lovesports so much, and I love opinions,
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and I love conversations and rehash andlooking back and looking forward and doing
all of the matchups. I loveall of that about sports. But one
thing that drives me crazy is theshut kutawuda. Yeah, I hate that
too because it can't change it.No, you can't go back, don't
hang on it. When toxic thoughtscloud your mind, you don't operate with
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clear intention, and it causes problemsand then and that's how you lose.
That's how you end up losing,or you get distracted, you let it
go your way. Yeah, theyand this is. This is the masterful
thing about Dan Campbell. He hasnever They've not lost back to back,
no in I don't know how many. I think they're the only I think
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it's something like twenty four games nowin the NFL. They're crazy that didn't
have a losing streak this season.It's incredible how they just bounce back.
And bouncing back, in my opinion, is a mentality. It's something that
you think about. It's something thatyou are intentional about how you feel with
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yourself, what happened previous. Youhave to let the past go and also
lean into the future. And thisis beautiful. When Dan Campbell spoke up
and said I'm over it, Imean he still sounded a little slightly I
rate, but when he said I'mover it, it was incredible. I've
got controlled fury and I'm ready togo, so we will use this as
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fuel. I got pure octane rightnow. I woke up. I'm ready,
so we're moving forward. Listen tohim moving forward. Pure octane,
baby, pure octae, Pure octanein the form of a four shot espresso.
This man, I feel bad.I gotta say, I gotta be
honest. I feel bad for theVikings. Because you know what I mean,
like this, this is the gamewhere you get your anger out,
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take it out on them, andthen next week you got practice. We'll
get into the playoffs and matchups becauseI have a feeling the Rams do not
want to play the Lions, orSean McVay doesn't want to play the Lions
in the first round. If that'swhat's going to happen. But that's what
I think. I think they're goingto kick the Vikings ass because they need
to get all that pent up angerfrom you know, Saturday night's game.
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And what's interesting, Jennifer, isthat I think the NFL is kind of
annoyed with the Lions because they feelthat they were trying to do some trickery
and to confuse the Cowboys, andit came back and bit them in the
ass. Little smoke and mirrors,right, And they distributed a video explaining,
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I think it's so funny, howto a tutorial, a tutorial to
clearly, you know, to tellthe ref that you are eligible. What
are they supposed to do? Whatare they supposed to grab their balls and
so I'm eligible? I mean it'slike they have to rub their chest,
rub the number A scream yell,send out flares. Wouldn't it be cool
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if they did it like in baseball, like the little you know, across
the chest side of the nose.It's like, now it's like, don't
forget grab your balls as you're runningout there to let the refs know you're
eligible. I mean, it's sostupid. I think you just want to
keep saying ball. I do.I love balls. Not touching that anyway.
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I do think it's funny that theysent out this video while it needed
to be done. I think what'seven more concerning slash funny, slash troubling
is that Brad Allen's crew is nowgoing to be on the field Saturday night
for Steelers Ravens. How do thesteal the Steelers playoff hopes, if I'm
not mistaken, rest on that game? Well they speaking of rest, the
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Ravens will likely rest their players.Well, of course, they have everything
locked up and it'll be really reallybad, like at least the game for
the Lions and the Cowboys. Certainlyhaving home field in Round two is huge
impact, and I am not diminishingthat in the least, especially for local
businesses and for the gate and forthe fans that they haven't had a playoff
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game here and to have two wouldbe amazing for that, but at least
it didn't end their season such aslast year when the Lions didn't get into
the playaffaucause that ram Seahawks game wasso poorly efficient. Yeah, the blone
call with the running into the kicker, and and I just hope that nothing
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like that happens on Saturday Night withthis crew, because Brad Allen's crew has
had a lot of snaffoos and somereally glaring problems this season, and now
here they are out on the fieldin primetime again with somebody Mike Tomlin and
the Steelers playoff hopes on the line. Okay, so they wrap up the
season regular season against the Vikings.Vikings, I mean a slim chance they
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need a lot of help. Canwe just say one thing that's really important
right now that's going on this weekwith the Lions. They're getting guys back.
Oh Alee McNeil. Can you surprisedat CD CD Deuce? That's CJ
by the way, CJ. GardnerDown's and a CD Deuce. I didn't
know he was a rapper. Idon't know. But Campbell now calls him
Deucy, that he's already picked itup. He's got Deucy and yeah,
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Alleen will be back, which yousurprise Isaiah bugs was released. I was
a little is he's been playing better, he has played better, he has
flashed at times. I just thinkthat whatever the damage done by him not
showing up to some of the offseason situations, practices, whatever, just
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it was never it was irreparable,you know, irreconcilable differences, as they
say in a divorce, and uslike I, they've got to They've got
to clear up roster space, youknow. So if if a Leam is
taking Isaiah Buggs, then CJ,then who's gone? H Bruce Ivin?
Okay, right, Bruce Servin waswaived, So that clears up a roster
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spot for CD Deuce and they needhim back, Bruce Iervin, CJ.
Oh, they do, CJ.They need I mean Deucy. Sorry are
we calling him Ducy? Well,I don't know. I've kind of gotten
used to CD Deuce. At first, when I saw it, I'm like,
how am I ever gonna remember tocall him that? But I think
c J. Gardner Johnson's kind ofa mouthful of mouth see le full and
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so I really enjoy CD Deuce.I don't know, it's kind of cool.
He's a great dude. I dida little Chris Twin the night before
Christmas book reading with the players forour Lions pregame show on Christmas Even Minnesota,
and I walked into the locker room, and of course I see I
see Noocy sitting at his locker,and I'm like, that's the guy that's
going to start it and end itbecause he's got so much freaking personality.
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I love him. He's going tobring so much energy to this team.
I hope he comes rolling out inthose those the skull caps again, you
know, gangsterlets. No he saidthat's I think that's retired. That's good.
Do you think he'll play Sunday.I think he'll play this Sunday against
the Vikes. I think. Idon't know about a Leam. I don't
know if he needs a little moretime in practice, but I'm sure that
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they'll try to get him in thereand mix him in as they can do.
The starters need to play, Idon't think so. I think if
they do, I think they do. Do you think they'll play like a
preseason, give him a first half. You know, I don't know Campbell
was Campbell said he's going to startall of his guys to well, I
don't even know about that. Imean, I think it depends how the
game goes. I think they wantto win and go into the postseason on
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a high note. I think theywant to work on some stuff, and
I think, to a man,after what went down in Dallas, they
want just a takee the taste ofa win in their pocket and their mouth
and wherever to get going into theplayoffs because it's big. I and last
year, last time, they hadtwelve wins, twelve wins and ninety three.
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I believe they had twelve and ninetythrees. But no, they're at
Yeah, they've never had fourteen orthirteen. There was something I tweeted last
week about or there was something Ilooked up. I should stop saying I
tweeted a big deal I tweeted.But I just think that they want to
be rolling. You know, theywant to be hot, they want to
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be they want to have a rhythm. Don't worry about getting hurt, don't
worry about resting guys, Well,you can't worry about it. Don't they
get in there. Just do getgoing and sports right. You can't think
too much because that gets you hurt. You can't think about it. I
think you can think about tackling DeckPrescott at the Friend Show. That would
be nice. Maybe you should lookat that film a few more times.
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Although I did hear someone say Idid actually hear someone in defense of and
Barnes is a great guy. Ijust you know, in defense of him
though, is that perhaps he didn'twant to get nailed or hit with one
of those roughing the pastor flags thathe didn't you know, there's so if
the fact that a guy is anda quarterback you get flagged closing, you
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got to think about it, thinkabout the hit. That's that's a problem.
Okay, But the Lions are reallylocked in at the three third seed
in the air. They are lockedin, right, I mean a lot
would have to happen a lot ofweird, crazy shit. I just can't
see. I'm I can't see theCowboys losing to the Commanders, although I
could see the Eagles losing because theyhad a what thirty one something lead?
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Thirty one something? That would beso down with the Cardinals, with the
Rams beating the Niners. I don'tthink the Rams want to play the Lions.
I don't think Sean McVay wants allthose questions about Jared Goff. I
think he would rather lose. AndSean McVay just cares about his hair.
I mean, I don't think hecares what questions he's asked. He's going
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to coach his team up, andhe probably likes Matthew Stafford's chances in a
building he's comfortable in. I mean, think about how much Stafford has won.
You think Stafford wants to no doubt, no doubt in my mind,
absolutely, But the Lions would wantto kick his ass tours and people stop,
you know, like short of sayingwhat about for Jared Goff, what
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would that mean for him to beable to beat his former team, the
team that discarded him, didn't wanthim, and go against them in the
first round of the postseason. Ido think it'll be a really, really
horrible day if the Lions losing thefirst round. But I'm not even going
there. It's just like the past. I'm not even going there, not
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talking about it. They've just gotto continue to handle their business and I
love their run game. I lovewhere the defense is right now, despite
giving up three hundred and sixty eightyards two receivers, premier receivers in this
league, in the last two games. You know they should have could have
won one of them. They wonthe other one, right. I like
it. I like it. Ilike what the pass rush is doing.
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I like the run game. Ilove what we're seeing evolve from Jamo kicking.
Now, if it has to comedown to a kick, where are
they going to be? I don'tknow. Jamison Williams, is he going
to be okay? Here at hisankle, he's okay, Campbell City's okay.
Well, I think that's a he'sweek to week, day to day.
Let me tell you something, Ronda. It's no longer December. It's
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in January. And guys aren't missingthis. They're not missing this's no there's
no pain in January. You can'tyou can't be in the tub. There's
no dry January. Especially, Heytried January Thomisconsin. I never heard it,
and I'm not a big drinker anyway, so it doesn't affect me.
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But I don't get it. It'slike, so stop having ten drinks and
only have five or just have asip of bourbon once a week, Right,
what's the big deal? I don'tneed to go go drive a proof
anything for you people, you're listeningto the same old podcast. I'm rond
to Mass with Ihard Sports Network alongwith Jennifer Hammond a Fox Fox too.
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I'm in the sports department at Foxright sponsored by Victory Lane Quick Oil Change.
Okay, So, if things standright now, the RAMS will be
here next weekend. Do you thinkthat'll be a Monday night game. I
hope it's not. I don't wantit to be so then Saturday night.
I would love a night game.I would love a Saturday night game.
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I think a Saturday night game wouldbe so epic. I just don't want
another Monday night or because that's toughfor the people who have to work the
next day. It's just okay,full disclosure. Selfishly, I won't be
able to be there if it iswhy on Monday night, because I have
to be back at the ranch holdingdown the shows and doing the anchoring.
Ann Miller calls the game. SoI really wanted to be Saturday or Sunday.
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I think if it is the Rams, it's going to be Saturday night.
Right, don't you think primetime babycould be Sunday Night Lions should be
undefeated in prime time? Yeah?Five? And oh this season in primetime,
they've won five of their last sixin primetime, going back to that
season finale in Green Bay last year. So right, bright lights, big
city, but there's d will belit, It'll be crazy, it will
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be crazy. How about Sheila Hampwhen she came rolling out of that locker
room in Minnesota. She was socute, she was so excited, she
was giddy beaming when they won thatdivision. I mean, what a cool
Let's just let's just one more time, give a little round of applause to
what's gone on here with this teamand with Shila Hamp and all her people.
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Thank you, Zach. I wantedthat. Okay, there's another big
game. I'm I'm I'm pivoting.Oh, pivot, pivot that you're gonna
that, you're gonna have it it? Shut up, shut up, shut
up? What did you mean bypivot? Right? Uh, you're that
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you'll be at Michigan, Washington anda championship game in Houston, number one
and number two. I feel likethey should be at the Rose Bowl,
right, yes, right, well, Big Ten. This is a way
to welcome Washington into the Big Tenand then they meet again October fifth or
something. It's crazy. It's socrazy that this is what's going to go
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down in Houston. But I loveit. It's strength on strength. Michigan's
defense was so good against Alabama.I mean, they made Milrow look like
my grandmother playing course. Do youthink Pennox, Michael Pennox Junior will pick
them apart? Well? So Ithink Michigan has definitely a better defense than
Texas, of course, but Ido think he's really skilled. I mean,
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this kid's going to the NFL.He's a great passer. What did
he put up four hundred and thirtyagainst Texas? But Texas has what the
thirtieth ranked defense? There's something thepast defense, you know. So Michigan
is like fifth and third down conversions. I was looking at some of the
numbers they they have been like theirpoints per game has been one or two
all season long. I think it'sgoing to be strength on strength. I
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think it's going to be a tremendousgame and people are gonna love it because
just like the semifinals, no blowouts, right, we got overtime in the
first game down to the final second, and the second one it was really
great. And so it's a perfectway to send out the Final four and
the CFP Next year it goes toa twelve team playoff, and it was
the perfect way to send it out. And I think Monday Night in Houston,
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or some people call it Houston inHouston, it's going to be exactly
the same thing. We're going toget all of the entertainment that we love
in college football, and I forone cannot wait to watch it. Do
you think with what happened with Michiganthis past season with the signs stealing scandal,
that people don't want them to one? I know it's it's old.
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I think I do think there's alittle bit of a villain tag attached to
them, if that's what you're asking. I don't know, you know,
it's I know I was reading somebodysaid there should be an asterisk by their
name if they win. I don'tknow about the asterisk. It's weird.
And I did see on social mediathat Connor Stallion was at the game with
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Chase Winovich. Why weird? Weirdyou bring him as a guest on not
Chase. He bought his own ticket. Hey, he knows how to buy
tickets. Let me ask you thisas Aiden Hutchinson going to the game Monday.
I mean they're playing Sunday afternoon.He could fly out go to the
game Monday night. Well maybe Idon't know. I didn't ask. I
will ask, I'll look. Yeah, you ask, I could text us.
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Let's text his mom and we shallsee. But I will look for
him if he is there. ButI really am looking forward to Monday night
in Houston. Another question, JimHarbaugh, you think he stays or goes
after it goes they win. Ihave been I have been resolute on that
since day one. Why I betmy buddy Ryan HARMANI I just think he's
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ready to go, and especially ifhe wins and now that he got there,
gets to the Natty, because Ijust think he still has that stone
to unturn. He is a competitorthrough and through and plus you know what,
he can leave knowing the program isin great hands with Sharon Moore.
Yeah, I love I like him. I would hope that if Harball leaves,
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he would get the head coaching job. One would think he's been groomed
forward all season long with the suspensions, and I haven't ever had really a
chance to get close to Ward recentlyand say, hey, how do you
like Sharon? Will he replace him? Not that he'd tell me, but
I do think that he's a guythat Ward really could wrap his arms around
this program. I think if theywin, I think Harbaugh had enough of
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this suspension garbage and all. Ohhe he hates the NCAA and he's not
gonna let them him again. Andif he can get a head coaching job,
and if they win, I thinkhe's like, Okay, I did
it, got you guys a championship. I need to go back to the
NFL. You know what the cutestthing in the world is that I saw
this weekend was Jim Harbaugh's parents JackJackie, which I love, and get
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their jacket on the field after thegame. They were so cute. They
changed They switched seats in the finalbefore the final drive. Is the superstitious?
Do they do it every game?No? They just did it.
No, because that was the first. Oh, I thought twenty seven and
one the last time. I meanI thought that they shouldst like game,
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not just the playoff. They didit when they right before je They took
the ball at the one yard linefor the final drive when they tied it
up because they were thinking, okay, what do we need to do and
they switched seats and it was they'rejust they're cute. They're cute people.
And Jim man As he had chipoff the old block. So Jack Harbor,
I don't know if I told youthis before, but he was the
first coach I ever interviewed in mybroadcasting career. He was the coach at
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Western Michigan University, Oh where youwent to school? When I worked in
the sports information department. Oh,Mike. Was he nice? He was
awesome, But I was scared ofhim. I mean, certainly he was
intimidating. He was nice, butyou know he was coach. He was
a coach. Coaches are tough.Yeah, you know, he he had
that whole thing going. He andJohn Offerdall were my first two interviews.
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Oh my god, that's full circle, full circle. All right, I'm
going off topic because we can.I love when we go off topic.
Yes, okay, So I matchedwith somebody on one of the dating sites.
Can you tell us switch one?Which okay? And we were messaging
and then we exchanged numbers and weended up talking like an hour and a
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half. Wow on the phone.This is remarkable. An hour and a
half conversation with a total stranger.Yeah, well I could talk to freaking
strain. It was a man,right, yeah, just checking. Ah,
yes, it was a man.And so he asked what I did,
and I told him. I said, oh, I'm a sports anchor
reporter, and I, you know, anchor the sports twenty markets across the
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country. I'm not sure if youknow, but I'm kind of a big
deal. This is what he saidto me, and this is where I
need your because I got so pissed. Oh, he said to me,
So you're just a update girl.Thank you, Zach. Come on,
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my man really messed up the ball. Isn't that rude again? Right?
Did you want to kick him inthe I wanted to kick him in the
balls. I was so pissed,girl. I thought it was so rude
and condescending. Did you did youtell him? Nineteen ninety eight? I
said to him, I go,that is so rude. He goes,
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I didn't mean it. I wouldhave said if it was an update,
you know, just an update,guy, I go, oh, boy
boy, I'm like, no,you wouldn't and it was rude, and
hello, it's twenty twenty four.Yeah, that's a little that's a little
tough. Although I will tell youI picked someone apart. So I am
single. I go in these datingan I'm trying not to be someone and
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like, no, no, no, you should judge. This is a
person potentially you're going to share ameal with. Well, I don't know
if we are. This is aperson who potentially could put their tongue in
your mouth. Let's just just wantingsomebody to lay on top of me.
But anyway, where's theot? Andhe ruined it by that, And then
I'm thinking, okay, I can't. I'm gonna I can't because that I
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would have hung off. How ishis grammar in the chat? So this
is where I go if if adude uses like they're there and there improperly,
or if he uses two to into we're talking about me? Okay,
oh, sorry enough about me.It's Roonda's time. Would you what
would you have done? Would youhave been a conversation or would you?
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And I didn't. We continue totalk and I let it go, but
I was and then of course youkept so do you guys have plans?
Oh? Was that early in theconversation? Was an hour and a half
in? Yeah, I think itwas kind of in the an hour and
a half we talked for an I'son my phone an hour and thirty five
minutes. I kind of low keylike that though that you had that That's
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a band word, now, isn'tit? Low key? Sorry? I
love that you No, that's nota band wording you you know, it's
a band phrase, which I love, which at the end of the day,
I think you you say, atthe end of the day, Oh,
I do you gotta you gotta letthat go? I feel like that's
something my mom used to say.Though in the seventies. Why is it
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now banned in twenty twenty four?You know what else's band? Riz?
Riz and side Hustle, which RizI never said. I could you see
me saying riz and what is riz? What? Like? How would you
use that? Like you have charisma? Yeah? Oh well then just jam
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okay. The other one is hackedhack hack impact lay wait impact like so
Tom Gores can't say impactful anymore?No, and he shouldn't be talking at
all because you know, actually heshould be talking more, because you know,
besides talking to more people, youknow, besides winning, they're doing
great. I gotta tell you,though I love I love Monny Williams.
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I think he's a great human.I'm sure I don't know what's going on
with that team. I want toknow. We're talking about the Pristons,
and they snapped their twenty eight gameslide and then lost to the Rockets.
They were looked awful, the ThompsonTwins. But I got to tell you
something. You and I saw theirlast win October twenty eighth. We were
sitting together yesterday, right, andyou were all excited because they were two
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and one. She was ready tohave her freaking parade. But here's the
thing. I still don't And Ialso thought that the Philadelphia Eagles were gonna
win it all. Nobody can answerthis for me. What happened? What
happened from two and one to twentyeight game losing? What happened? Something
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happened? Now? Something happened?And yeah, something happened, right,
I mean, you just can't gofrom how they were playing three games in
because they were playing pretty well andthen all of a sudden, now twenty
eight games and you know Tom Goreslove the man, you know, Uncle
Tommy. We love him, wedo. I'm not sure how to respond
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to that. But again, whenhe talked to at Friday Night, you
know, and then darkness to onlythe Beat writers, and when he dropped
the well, besides winning, we'redoing everything, you know. Okay,
winning is the only thing that yeah, he needs we need to get We
need to get some public speaking training. Another phrase that's going that you can't
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say so for it cringe worthy,which I would have used if I was
listening to that press conference. Oh, cringe worthy. I don't use cringe
worthy often, but I do likeit in the right in the right setting,
I think cringe worthy. I don'tnecessarily would say cringe worthy. I'd
say, oh, that's so Iwant to get rid of irregardless, that's
not even a word. Well,Webster now recognizes it as a word.
Why because so many people were usingit improperly? Please Zach Google, please
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he speaking, he's speaking to hisphone anyway, would have see it is
Webster now. Because so many idiotsused it, they had to ignore and
it bugs the crap out. Okay, now, you're just dumbing down,
I mean, right, there's somuch. There's another thing too that I
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would like to address with you aboutour vernacular in the world. So when
you hold up a glass and youraise your glass, what are you doing.
You're raising your glass to cheers?Oh you guys, no to toast?
Oh toast? You raise your glassto toast? I do not raise
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cheers. Let's toe Let's make atoast. Let's make a toast. I
do do that. Let's cheers.See your your generation, Zach? Why
is that on The Bachelor and theBachelor? So okay, my here comes,
here comes confession time. My dirtylittle secret is I do watch all
of those Bachelor and Bachelorette franchise.I watch there, dumb. It's like
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watching entertainment, great stuff, mindless. So when when people pick up their
glass and say, let's cheers,No, let's toast, and then when
you toast, you say cheers rightor salute? Salute? Aa? Sluncha
sante you prost. Here's the thingwould you like? Do you tap it
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on the desk or do you justgo now? I go right to the
drink. Drink. Okay, youcan do that. I don't. I'm
not opposed to that, but youhave to look people in the eye or
else it won't come true. Isthat how it goes. It's just a
sign of respect. It's not thatit won't come true because you don't make
a wish when you tell the eyesa sign of respect, don't matter what
you're absolutely and I lotle in theface and the eye. Hate people that
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look down. But I did teachmy son that when he was young.
I'm like, you look and mydaughter and my daughter, you have people
in the eye, you shake theirhand firmly. My got a limp handshake.
Oh okay, So do you thinkI should go four? Do you
think if this guy asked me aboutwhich I don't think he will because we've
texted and he wished me a happyNew Year. But I don't think it's
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going anywhere. Well, is itthe second? What date did he wish
you a happy New Year? Wehaven't gone out on a date, we've
only talked. When did he wishyou a happy New Year? I just
kidding the night of New Year's Ohit was New Year's Eve? Yeah,
okay, so I don't know.I mean, why don't you text him
and say so? Here's the onething I will say about those days we
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texted. Since that, they mademe a lot more ballsy. I'll be
like, hey, I wasted mytime Like me, I feel like if
he wasn't interested, why are youwishing me a happy New Year? And
why haven't you asked me out?Because I said men have a funny Maybe
because I did say chime in,Zach. So I guess my question for
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you, Randa, are you tryingto just get late? Are you trying
to get a free meal out ofit? I get paid for my own
marriage. Okay, So what Iwould say I would message him be like,
are you coming over to jump mybones or not? No? No,
no, no? But why don'tmen text? All guys want to
hear? Well? First of all, he did ask me what I was
doing the lions. You're right,you are young? How young are you?
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Twenty eight? I mean, I'mnot being condescending, but you're a
child to me. You're I'm oldenough to be my son in law is
older than I've got you one hundreddollars. It's the same app that I'm
using, though, can we know? Is it grinder? No? No,
that's gay man. Oh gay man. I'm not a gay man.
I love gay man, but I'mnot a kinge hinge. No, a
(46:27):
little launch hinge is hinge is forI think the younger fish in the sea.
What's that fish in the fish?Plenty of fishsh no swimming with guppies.
But anyway, so I don't Idon't know if he's interested because he
hasn't asked me out. And Isaid to him last week I said,
I said, uh. Response,I said, well, let's we'll do
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something next week because this is towardsthe end when you did say that.
Yeah, he said, okay,whatever, But he hasn't asked me out,
so I don't think he's going to. Maybe I should say, here
this thing I wonder, here's thething I wondered, do men have to
still do the I do not standout principle? If I want to if
I'm interest dating situation, if Iappsich, if I'm interested, I'll say,
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hey, you want to meet fora drink? Yeah? And if
he says no, I had thelast dude I went out with. I
feel like I should share this becauseI kind of low key love it.
He lied about his name, whichwas fine. His first name was just
different, but he cleared it upas soon as I met him. For
a drink and then he had checkedon his box. It was on,
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Uh, what's the one where theladies have control? It's bumble bumble.
He checked which terrible algorithms? Terrible? He said, smoke never. You
know how it says drink sometimes,smoke never. I never feel well.
He was like, drink always,smoke all the time. And he was
a full time smoker. And Iwent to his house to pick him up,
and he had a dog, andI said, oh, I just
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want to meet your dog. SoI came to the door and I could
smell the cigarette smoke come wafting outof his house. And I was like,
this is over because he lied.He lied. I mean that he
lied twice and his tongue ow.So men don't lie like that. Hold
on, hold on, I havea good story. I've been lied to
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one time on tender. Uh.This actually might be a long story.
Uh. It was I was lookingfor an older lady. Oh, an
older lady looking for an older ladyjust got broken up out of a ten
year relationship. This older lady onher profile it said thirty six. So
I'm like, okay, let's gogig drinks. We ended up hooking up.
I wanted to see her again,and then she told me. She
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sent me down. She was like, hey, I'm actually fifty six,
which is okay. I wish youwould have told me that. The fact
that it's a little but the factthat she could pull off. Yeah.
No, Yeah, she looked great. She looked great. But here's the
second thing, Zach. Things,I look like I'm thirty six. I'm
not thirty six. Perhaps to her, okay, go ahead, Zach.
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The worst part she a'll same sitdown situation. She said me down.
She's like, listen, I havetwo things to tell you. One,
I'm not thirty six. I'm actuallylike fifty four. And your ex girlfriend
is now dating my nephew who Soyeah, we did hook up for the
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second time after that conversation, andshe didn't have ad Yeah, and I
never talked to her after that.Nice. Why couldn't that be a friends
with benefits kind of thing that wouldbe perfect for you? And that's probably
what she wanted. It's so epicthat she wanted to know a great story.
I don't know about you. Thatis a great I have a friend
who has a male counterpart who's probablyfifteen sixteen years younger than her, and
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she's hot, she's beautiful like sheis, she is fit, she is
fine, she is fashionable, she'sfunny, she's smart, she's great,
and her new boy toy is sohot. And I'm like, damn,
I think I need to date wellbelow my age. Wait a minute,
how old is she and how oldshe is? Soon to be fifty?
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And he's thirty six? Well theguy, I like it. This guy
is ten eleven years younger than me. Oh he is? Yeah, yeah,
Oh let's go, RONI go out, go out, go out.
I don't know. In fact,then he called you, what have you
got to lose my dignity? Butthen again that's shot to hell anyway,
I have no dnity. Dignity hasnothing to do with it. Okay,
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we're wrapping this podcast up. JenniferHammond, I am so happy. I
go longer here an hour. Igo longer than anyone. That's what he
said. Oh drop, Mike,drop, Jennifer Hammond, thank you so
much. You are seriously the best, you really are. I hope.
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Yes, let's give it up forJennifer Hammond. Have fun in Houston.
Oh yeah, that's me, havefun in Houston. I'll miss you Sunday.
I'll miss you Sunday at Lions Noand uh to find a way to
watch that down South? All right? Well, bye bye, thanks Zach.
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