Suki Waterhouse sits down with host Lisa Worden to chat about her new record Memoir of a Sparklemuffin, finishing the record while pregnant, starring on Daisy Jones and The Six, opening for Taylor Sift at Wembly Stadium and more.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You're listening to.
Speaker 2 (00:00):
She is the voice the female alternative artist.
Speaker 1 (00:03):
That you need to know.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Here's your host, a Warden.
Speaker 3 (00:07):
All ninety eight seven, LA's new alternative you're listening to.
She is the voice and it is my pleasure to
have in studio with us tonight. Suki Water, Hi, how
are you. I'm doing great.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
Thank you so much for having me, Thank you.
Speaker 3 (00:21):
For being here. We are celebrating the release of your
second album, Memoir of a Sparkle Muffin.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
Oh my god, I can't believe it's the second record.
It sounds insane to say out love.
Speaker 3 (00:33):
You know what. I've been spending a lot of time
with it since it came out. It is a gorgeous,
gorgeous album. Oh, thank you so much. Yes, and you
must be so proud. Your record label sent me this
list of all the press that you've done and the
press that you've gotten, and it's you guys. It's extensive.
I haven't seen that.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
I have to know that someone's making a spreadsheet.
Speaker 3 (00:57):
Oh yes, oh yes, I got their spreadsheets. So it's
a thing from BBC one Radio, which is in the
UK Billboard Magazine, British Vogue, La Times, New York times
you were at the VMAs.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
I was that was a great night.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
I've never been to the VMAs before and it was, Yeah,
it was a wonderful night. And then I was on
the Today Show at like six am the next day,
so which I did with like no sleep.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
I bet it was. It was so good.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
I mean I got to see Sabrina Carpenter come down
on a chair from the ceiling. There was Taylor moments,
there was like don't she cat? It was incredible. I mean,
it was just it was like a dream come true
going to that ceremony.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
I didn't know what I was doing there.
Speaker 3 (01:41):
Well that that is so awesome, and I know they
were really happy to have you there. And for our
audience listening in Los Angeles, you know, some of them
maybe aren't one hundred percent familiar with you and your career. Yeah,
and all that you've done. But what I want to
touch on is how much you have done. You're a singer,
(02:03):
you're a songwriter, you're a producer, actress, model, you're a mother,
you're a wife. You are doing it all and I
admire it so much. And one thing I wanted to
say was you know that balance of how do you
find that balance with you know, obviously you are so
good at your job, and I mean, I.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
Don't know that balance is really is there any balance?
I just I don't know where does this thing come
from about balance? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (02:30):
Right, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
I feel like so many things are important, you know,
like serving your self as an artist, as you know,
as a as a mom and all that kind of stuff.
It's like there's so many things all at once at
some point. I don't even know if I strive for
balance in some way. I just you just do it all. Well,
I don't know. I don't know if that's like a
(02:51):
I don't know. I always think it's difficult to say
you'd do it all. I think there's you know, there's
there's times where I'll you know, be working more and
then sometimes a lot less. So yeah, I don't know
the doing it all thing, I don't know if that
really exists in lots of ways, but every you know,
I don't know, it's a Yeah, being a mom is
(03:12):
a is number one priority and it's a really hard job.
And yeah, I just think everyone's everyone's doing a great
job whatever they're doing.
Speaker 3 (03:21):
Yeah, for sure. And you have a tour coming up,
You're going to be playing the Greek Theater right here
in Los Angeles October twenty third. Amazing venues you're headlining.
That is awesome.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
Oh my goodness, I feel that that part to me is, yeah,
that's going to be like one of the wildest nights
to be for the Greek Oh my goodness.
Speaker 3 (03:44):
Have you seen artists or bounds there?
Speaker 2 (03:48):
Yes? I go there all the time. Yeah, I'm that
all the time.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
I don't live that far away, so I mean the
hiking outside of it or in traffic because of it,
or at the Greek Yeah, I just yeah, it's such
a historic La landmark. And yeah, if you if you
told me when I first moved he it like over
a decade ago that I've been performing there, someday I
just would not have believed you.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
So yeah, it is. It's awesome.
Speaker 3 (04:15):
It's such a I've lived in Los Angeles a very
long time and I've been to that venue a lot.
I most recently saw Saint Vincent there, and then I'm
seeing PJ. Harvey there in a few weeks.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
When's PJ Harvey?
Speaker 3 (04:27):
I will tell you exactly because I was thrilled to
see it. She is playing there.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
That's the best thing about Los Angeles. There's so much
good live music, you know, sometimes you have to remember
to take you know, really like make the most of
it there. Right, it's just full full in La. There's
incredible artists coming through all the time.
Speaker 3 (04:49):
Yes, no, you're right. So Pj's there October fourteenth.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
Oh, I'm still going to be here. I'm going, I'm
I'm conflict.
Speaker 1 (04:56):
I think I've got I want to go to the
Charlie x X show in Englewood. Sabrina is going to
be here as well, and PJ Harvey like, I'm spoiled.
Speaker 3 (05:07):
How do we do all of this? And then obviously
you're there October twenty third and Bully, But you're playing
with Bully, which is again a huge fan.
Speaker 1 (05:15):
That's me too, absolutely adore Billy. I can't wait to
have her on the road with me.
Speaker 3 (05:20):
That's going to be a really great night in studio
with us. Tonight's special guest Suki Waterhouse, Hi, how are
you hi? And we are celebrating her new album that
just came out a couple of weeks ago, called Memoir
of a Sparkle Muffin. And I have to admit I
didn't know what a sparkle Muffin was.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
I didn't think that many people know what sparkle Muffin is. Yeah,
it's a slightly it's a slightly strange and wacky name.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
I kind of, yeah, I toyed. I toyed with it
for a while.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
But a sparkle Muffin is a newly discovered, rare Australian
spider that has a very razzle dazzled dance and maybe, yeah,
there's a whole thing that happens sort of in like
the the attraction dance between them, and yeah, it can
be fatal, that's all.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
I was saying.
Speaker 3 (06:08):
Oh, man, isn't there I feel like there's another insects
that are praying mounters that were the female.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
Yes, yes, exactly. I think it's in the same kind
of family.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (06:21):
So so I had to read and learn what a
sparkle Muffin was, and I actually have to admit I
am not a fan of spiders.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
And it's beautiful and so beautiful and he's so cool.
I don't know when I was. I sort of found
him on a late night kind of Internet search and
I don't know what what came over me, but I
just felt very connected to this little guy, and I
started kind of going through the songs that I'd already
made and kind of I wrote this whole sort of
(06:48):
like bible for the kind of narrative that like my
character through the album is playing and where the sparkle
muffin comes in and each like section of songs has
sort of it's sort of like this metamorphous effect that
goes through the through with the sparkle muffin. Yeah, I
don't know, it's crazy, but hopefully it's somewhat memorable.
Speaker 3 (07:11):
Oh well, it is. And I want to talk about
some songs on the new album, so we've been playing
Super Sad here on ninety eight seven. Absolutely love that song.
Speaker 1 (07:23):
I feel like it was one of the first songs
that i'd made. I kind of wanted to challenge myself
and then if you listen to my last record, a
lot of it's a lot more kind of like morose maybe,
and it was sort of a challenge to myself to
make something upbeat and that still felt like in my pocket,
I guess, like in the kind of music that I
wanted to make. And yeah, I think it's just like
(07:47):
serves me and hopefully the you know, people that discover
it as a sort of reminder, this kind of like
joy reminder. I think, like when you're kind of yeah,
there's like, you know, there's been a lot of like
heaviness I feel, and this was this was like the
song that I wrote as an antidote to that.
Speaker 3 (08:06):
What I found kind of cool was like you said,
it was your attempt at doing something more at beat,
but then the song is got super sad.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
Yeah, to be we didn't quite get there. That was cool.
Speaker 3 (08:17):
Let's discuss model actress whatever I had read, and you
can tell me if this is true or not that
you were writing notes to record labels and you wrote
a note to Subpop Records, which is the record label
that you were signed to, and they said, yeah, we
don't want to hear music by models, actresses or whatever.
Isn't that true or did I?
Speaker 2 (08:37):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (08:38):
Yes, so yeah, yeah, you know, I mean they ended
up signing me in its yea, They're incredible and they're
a great label. But that was Yeah, that was kind
of like I made my first album by myself, and
I was I was going to release it independently because
I've been doing that for the past decade.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
But yes, I did. When I made that album.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
It was the first album I've made, and I and
I kind of felt like maybe ready to to you know,
approach a label or whatever. And yeah, a lot of
them didn't even listen to it, but I remember there
was about a six month gap where they, yeah, they
wouldn't they didn't want to listen to it either, And yeah,
I think I kept I kept just pushing, and you know,
(09:21):
so much of so much of what I'd done making
music until like the last couple of years was still
in a way, but I would do so much kind
of just like cold emailing, finding people's emails. I did
a song with Bell and Sebastian that my label like
found out about like years later, and we're like, what
do you mean you have a song with Bell and
Sebastian that you've never put out, Like, let's released that.
(09:44):
But there was you know, so many kind of like that. Yeah,
it was that. That was like so much of the
process and and yeah, I was Once they did listen
to it, we kind of got on the phone and yeah,
we ended up I ended up.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
Signing to them.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
No, that is awesome, happy ending. But yeah, I think
that song, that song is you know, I guess like I, Yeah,
I always wanted to be a musician, but my life
did take me in quite different ways. From I started
working about fifteen, I was, Yeah, I modeled and I
acted and I still still do that too, But I
guess there was that hesitation to you know, even though
(10:24):
I've been doing music the longest, there was that thing
of like, oh, God, you've done You've done all these
other things and you're known as one thing, maybe in England,
and like are you going to be allowed to switch paths?
Is it going to be accepted? Well, you know there's
always that in a you know, there's there's inner voices
in your head. So yeah, when I wrote this song,
I think it's you know, it's about kind of like
(10:47):
my experiences growing up in that industry. But it's also
if you watch the video with that, I wanted to
like inject it with a lot of humor actually just
kind of like make it into a into a funny thing.
Speaker 3 (11:00):
It was, and I did watch the video. Yes, yes,
I want to talk to you about your role in
Daisy Jones and the Six Oh. I absolutely loved that show.
Speaker 2 (11:10):
Oh, thank you so much.
Speaker 3 (11:11):
One of my favorites.
Speaker 1 (11:12):
Oh, it's one of my favorites too. Oh, definitely one
of the best experiences I've ever had on set.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
It was amazing.
Speaker 3 (11:17):
I'm glad to hear that. Me and my husband binged it. Oh,
I'm just so glad all of it. You played Karen Circo,
and she was I think loosely based upon Christy mcvee.
The show itself is loosely based upon Fleetwood Mac during
the time when they recorded Rumors. So is there Can
you talk about the experience doing Daisy Jones. I think
(11:40):
a lot of listeners have probably seen it, so, oh.
Speaker 1 (11:43):
Yeah, I mean that was It was such a It
was such an incredible shown in a lot of ways
because life sort of merit are in the way that
we actually, you know, such a long break so much,
you know, everything happened in the world, and we had
to stop for about a year. We didn't know if
it was going to go, so we kind of it
was sort of like a three or four years from
(12:03):
start to finish.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
Wow, of kind of growing up together in a way.
Speaker 1 (12:07):
You know, you look back at those photos when we
first went into the studio and started getting our sheet
music and learning all of those songs and towards you know,
to the end, it's like so much, so much had
happened to all of us, so much life had happened,
and so yeah, it was really like very special to
(12:28):
us in many ways. And musically, I mean, we've got
an incredible soundtrack to work with, we have Blake Mills
make it, so many incredible contributors. I think Jackson Brown
contributors like one of my heroes, Late for the Sky.
It's just absolutely loved that record. But yeah, so it
(12:49):
was really just like one of those dream shows where
you know that you know you've got Rece with Haspoon
producing it. You have this incredible book by Taylor Jenkins
read that that I was just such a huge fan
of of I mean when I knew that they were
making Days and the Jones and the Six, I like
stampeded into my agent's office and was like, I have.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
To get this job.
Speaker 1 (13:10):
And I think so much of that too for me
was that I had this kind of like you know,
I was walking around with like a little bit of
a hole in my heart, like you know, I really was.
So I just knew that I needed to like make
a record soon and like push myself and get you know,
get it out and get it off my chest. Otherwise,
(13:31):
you know, I would not I would always like, I'd
never forgive myself. Really, so I think playing playing Karen
actually did a lot to me. You know, playing this
very like confident woman in music kind of like seeps
into you. And I think she gave me she gets Yeah,
she gave me that gift.
Speaker 3 (13:47):
I think, well, and you answered my question because I
was going to say I read that through doing Daisy Jones,
that did give you that extra push to you know,
get your first album done.
Speaker 1 (13:57):
And I think so, yeah, you never like, it's kind
of something that I've thought about upon looking back, but
I think, yeah, I think like sometimes, you know, sometimes
it's amazing with doing films and music and art, you
just never know, like once once you're engaged with something,
you know, the way that we were with Day's Jones
and the six, you never know, like what else that's
(14:19):
going to open up for you?
Speaker 2 (14:20):
Create?
Speaker 3 (14:21):
Yeah, you opened up for Taylor Swift in London at Wembley.
Speaker 2 (14:26):
I did.
Speaker 3 (14:26):
That's amazing.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
Oh my god, it feels like a blood Well think
about it.
Speaker 3 (14:30):
I bet it was, and I really I went to
one of the tailor shows here in Los Angeles and.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
Isn't it just the most incredible thing?
Speaker 3 (14:39):
It is happened truly feet Yes, and I took my
two eight year old daughters with me, and that was
a big reason of twins.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
I do, oh, I do, thank you, that's heaven. Yes,
yes it is.
Speaker 3 (14:51):
And then there's times where I'm like what am I doing?
But the show was incredible. And one thing I really
admired about Taylor is is all of the amazing artists
she took on tour with her. So you being one
Paramoorphoebe Bridger's time Bbadoobe, she really curated this amazing lineup
of female artists to go on tour with her.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
Yes, absolutely. I mean she's such a fan and such
a supporter of of other artists and obviously it's just
you know, to get that call, to get that opportunity,
it's just so gigantic. And she has such an amazing
way of like raising other artists up and you know,
(15:34):
having having that much just having like that that, the
history that she has, Yes, the incredible breadth of work.
I mean, I don't know anyone that works like that.
And also still is just such a great, down to
earth human who is actually really fun to have a
glass of wine with I don't know anyone that has
(15:56):
that combo you know.
Speaker 3 (15:57):
Of actually, yes, yes for sure. And was there something
special about doing the shows in London being that you're
absolutely from the UK?
Speaker 1 (16:07):
My goodness, like Wembley got you know, going to Wembley Stadium.
I've been going there my whole life.
Speaker 3 (16:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:12):
Yeah, I don't think my dad.
Speaker 1 (16:14):
Really could believe believe that this it was happening, like
until it got properly announced. Yeah, he kept being like, oh,
well it's not it's not happening, So I guess I guess,
I guess it's called off.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
And I'm like, no, no, no, it is happening.
Speaker 1 (16:26):
You're going to come on the state and like we're
all going to go to Wembley and I will, And
you know, he just couldn't really compute it, and he's
sort of like there is sort's video and he sort
of stood there with this like hands up in the air,
sort of like he just couldn't, you know, he couldn't
kind of get his head around.
Speaker 3 (16:40):
There's so sweet.
Speaker 1 (16:41):
But yeah, hometown doing a show that massive with that
many seats, but also having all of your family and
all the friends that you've grown up with and all
in one place. It was really this kind of yeah,
it felt like it felt like a you know, a party.
Speaker 3 (16:58):
That was so awesome. One thing I want to ask
you was what it was like trying to finish this
album Memore of a Sparkle muffin and being extremely pregnant.
And I read you wrapped the album and then two
days later you had your days later.
Speaker 2 (17:14):
Yeah, I mean, I am.
Speaker 1 (17:16):
I'm probably somebody that struggles a little bit with like
procrastination and deadlines, so you know, this was like this,
this like throw an interesting wrench into the mix. And
in many ways, I'm kind of grateful for it looking back,
because I really had a hard deadline, and you know,
I moved the whole studio into my house. You know,
(17:39):
was also organizing a baby room at the same time.
But for me, like someone that's so bad at procrastinating,
it was kind of actually a really beautiful thing to have,
you know, to be able to kind of I couldn't
really go anywhere by that point, you know, you don't
there gets to be a point where you don't really
want to leave the house. Yep. And actually it was
kind of amazing to have this these two things coinciding
(18:03):
and and really be able to focus on the record
because I don't know, what do you I've just been
getting nervous about the whole thing about like the impending
motherhood things. Yeah, I kind of like kept yeah, I
kept myself occupied and then and then just let it
all be a surprise when when she came.
Speaker 3 (18:22):
You know what, in a way because when I have
artists in they talk about releasing a new album and
it's almost like you're giving birth to a child.
Speaker 1 (18:31):
Yeah you did it to it not obviously the same thing,
but you know, it's it's kind of, yeah, someone similar.
But it was really like a great joy to have,
to be able to have like my aunt and my
kind of family life has just like big moments in
a similar time period.
Speaker 3 (18:49):
Amazing.
Speaker 2 (18:50):
But you know, yeah, I don't know if I do
it again.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
But it's also kind of it's sort of like you
know that you know with with with records and stuff,
it's you know that you're going on tour in September,
and if you know that there was this finality to it,
it's like you can't go on tour without your new record,
so it's time to get it. It's time to get
it all there, and it was and it was it was,
it was mostly all there for the last few months.
(19:16):
It was kind of just about bringing it all together.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
And the finishing touches.
Speaker 1 (19:20):
Yeah, exactly, and yeah, I had. I had such a
great time doing it.
Speaker 2 (19:24):
That's awesome.
Speaker 3 (19:25):
Well, Suki, congratulations on your new album, Memoir of a
Sparkle Muffin. We love it. We are so excited. We
love Super Sad that we've been playing.
Speaker 1 (19:34):
Well. Thank you so much for spending Super Sad, and
thank you so much for all the support for the record.
Speaker 2 (19:38):
Absolutely really appreciate it, and we.
Speaker 3 (19:40):
Look forward to your headlining show at the Greek Theater
in Los Angeles October twenty third with Bully.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
Oh my God, Yes, everybody come. It's going to be
a great time. Thank you, so thank you so much.
Speaker 3 (19:52):
She is the voice the female musicians that are creating
tomorrow sound.
Speaker 2 (19:56):
She is the voice. I'm ninety eight seven, Eli's new
alternative
You're listening to.
Speaker 2 (00:00):
She is the voice the female alternative artist.
Speaker 1 (00:03):
That you need to know.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Here's your host, a Warden.
Speaker 3 (00:07):
All ninety eight seven, LA's new alternative you're listening to.
She is the voice and it is my pleasure to
have in studio with us tonight. Suki Water, Hi, how
are you. I'm doing great.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
Thank you so much for having me, Thank you.
Speaker 3 (00:21):
For being here. We are celebrating the release of your
second album, Memoir of a Sparkle Muffin.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
Oh my god, I can't believe it's the second record.
It sounds insane to say out love.
Speaker 3 (00:33):
You know what. I've been spending a lot of time
with it since it came out. It is a gorgeous,
gorgeous album. Oh, thank you so much. Yes, and you
must be so proud. Your record label sent me this
list of all the press that you've done and the
press that you've gotten, and it's you guys. It's extensive.
I haven't seen that.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
I have to know that someone's making a spreadsheet.
Speaker 3 (00:57):
Oh yes, oh yes, I got their spreadsheets. So it's
a thing from BBC one Radio, which is in the
UK Billboard Magazine, British Vogue, La Times, New York times
you were at the VMAs.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
I was that was a great night.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
I've never been to the VMAs before and it was, Yeah,
it was a wonderful night. And then I was on
the Today Show at like six am the next day,
so which I did with like no sleep.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
I bet it was. It was so good.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
I mean I got to see Sabrina Carpenter come down
on a chair from the ceiling. There was Taylor moments,
there was like don't she cat? It was incredible. I mean,
it was just it was like a dream come true
going to that ceremony.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
I didn't know what I was doing there.
Speaker 3 (01:41):
Well that that is so awesome, and I know they
were really happy to have you there. And for our
audience listening in Los Angeles, you know, some of them
maybe aren't one hundred percent familiar with you and your career. Yeah,
and all that you've done. But what I want to
touch on is how much you have done. You're a singer,
(02:03):
you're a songwriter, you're a producer, actress, model, you're a mother,
you're a wife. You are doing it all and I
admire it so much. And one thing I wanted to
say was you know that balance of how do you
find that balance with you know, obviously you are so
good at your job, and I mean, I.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
Don't know that balance is really is there any balance?
I just I don't know where does this thing come
from about balance? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (02:30):
Right, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
I feel like so many things are important, you know,
like serving your self as an artist, as you know,
as a as a mom and all that kind of stuff.
It's like there's so many things all at once at
some point. I don't even know if I strive for
balance in some way. I just you just do it all. Well,
I don't know. I don't know if that's like a
(02:51):
I don't know. I always think it's difficult to say
you'd do it all. I think there's you know, there's
there's times where I'll you know, be working more and
then sometimes a lot less. So yeah, I don't know
the doing it all thing, I don't know if that
really exists in lots of ways, but every you know,
I don't know, it's a Yeah, being a mom is
(03:12):
a is number one priority and it's a really hard job.
And yeah, I just think everyone's everyone's doing a great
job whatever they're doing.
Speaker 3 (03:21):
Yeah, for sure. And you have a tour coming up,
You're going to be playing the Greek Theater right here
in Los Angeles October twenty third. Amazing venues you're headlining.
That is awesome.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
Oh my goodness, I feel that that part to me is, yeah,
that's going to be like one of the wildest nights
to be for the Greek Oh my goodness.
Speaker 3 (03:44):
Have you seen artists or bounds there?
Speaker 2 (03:48):
Yes? I go there all the time. Yeah, I'm that
all the time.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
I don't live that far away, so I mean the
hiking outside of it or in traffic because of it,
or at the Greek Yeah, I just yeah, it's such
a historic La landmark. And yeah, if you if you
told me when I first moved he it like over
a decade ago that I've been performing there, someday I
just would not have believed you.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
So yeah, it is. It's awesome.
Speaker 3 (04:15):
It's such a I've lived in Los Angeles a very
long time and I've been to that venue a lot.
I most recently saw Saint Vincent there, and then I'm
seeing PJ. Harvey there in a few weeks.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
When's PJ Harvey?
Speaker 3 (04:27):
I will tell you exactly because I was thrilled to
see it. She is playing there.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
That's the best thing about Los Angeles. There's so much
good live music, you know, sometimes you have to remember
to take you know, really like make the most of
it there. Right, it's just full full in La. There's
incredible artists coming through all the time.
Speaker 3 (04:49):
Yes, no, you're right. So Pj's there October fourteenth.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
Oh, I'm still going to be here. I'm going, I'm
I'm conflict.
Speaker 1 (04:56):
I think I've got I want to go to the
Charlie x X show in Englewood. Sabrina is going to
be here as well, and PJ Harvey like, I'm spoiled.
Speaker 3 (05:07):
How do we do all of this? And then obviously
you're there October twenty third and Bully, But you're playing
with Bully, which is again a huge fan.
Speaker 1 (05:15):
That's me too, absolutely adore Billy. I can't wait to
have her on the road with me.
Speaker 3 (05:20):
That's going to be a really great night in studio
with us. Tonight's special guest Suki Waterhouse, Hi, how are
you hi? And we are celebrating her new album that
just came out a couple of weeks ago, called Memoir
of a Sparkle Muffin. And I have to admit I
didn't know what a sparkle Muffin was.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
I didn't think that many people know what sparkle Muffin is. Yeah,
it's a slightly it's a slightly strange and wacky name.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
I kind of, yeah, I toyed. I toyed with it
for a while.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
But a sparkle Muffin is a newly discovered, rare Australian
spider that has a very razzle dazzled dance and maybe, yeah,
there's a whole thing that happens sort of in like
the the attraction dance between them, and yeah, it can
be fatal, that's all.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
I was saying.
Speaker 3 (06:08):
Oh, man, isn't there I feel like there's another insects
that are praying mounters that were the female.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
Yes, yes, exactly. I think it's in the same kind
of family.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (06:21):
So so I had to read and learn what a
sparkle Muffin was, and I actually have to admit I
am not a fan of spiders.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
And it's beautiful and so beautiful and he's so cool.
I don't know when I was. I sort of found
him on a late night kind of Internet search and
I don't know what what came over me, but I
just felt very connected to this little guy, and I
started kind of going through the songs that I'd already
made and kind of I wrote this whole sort of
(06:48):
like bible for the kind of narrative that like my
character through the album is playing and where the sparkle
muffin comes in and each like section of songs has
sort of it's sort of like this metamorphous effect that
goes through the through with the sparkle muffin. Yeah, I
don't know, it's crazy, but hopefully it's somewhat memorable.
Speaker 3 (07:11):
Oh well, it is. And I want to talk about
some songs on the new album, so we've been playing
Super Sad here on ninety eight seven. Absolutely love that song.
Speaker 1 (07:23):
I feel like it was one of the first songs
that i'd made. I kind of wanted to challenge myself
and then if you listen to my last record, a
lot of it's a lot more kind of like morose maybe,
and it was sort of a challenge to myself to
make something upbeat and that still felt like in my pocket,
I guess, like in the kind of music that I
wanted to make. And yeah, I think it's just like
(07:47):
serves me and hopefully the you know, people that discover
it as a sort of reminder, this kind of like
joy reminder. I think, like when you're kind of yeah,
there's like, you know, there's been a lot of like
heaviness I feel, and this was this was like the
song that I wrote as an antidote to that.
Speaker 3 (08:06):
What I found kind of cool was like you said,
it was your attempt at doing something more at beat,
but then the song is got super sad.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
Yeah, to be we didn't quite get there. That was cool.
Speaker 3 (08:17):
Let's discuss model actress whatever I had read, and you
can tell me if this is true or not that
you were writing notes to record labels and you wrote
a note to Subpop Records, which is the record label
that you were signed to, and they said, yeah, we
don't want to hear music by models, actresses or whatever.
Isn't that true or did I?
Speaker 2 (08:37):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (08:38):
Yes, so yeah, yeah, you know, I mean they ended
up signing me in its yea, They're incredible and they're
a great label. But that was Yeah, that was kind
of like I made my first album by myself, and
I was I was going to release it independently because
I've been doing that for the past decade.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
But yes, I did. When I made that album.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
It was the first album I've made, and I and
I kind of felt like maybe ready to to you know,
approach a label or whatever. And yeah, a lot of
them didn't even listen to it, but I remember there
was about a six month gap where they, yeah, they
wouldn't they didn't want to listen to it either, And yeah,
I think I kept I kept just pushing, and you know,
(09:21):
so much of so much of what I'd done making
music until like the last couple of years was still
in a way, but I would do so much kind
of just like cold emailing, finding people's emails. I did
a song with Bell and Sebastian that my label like
found out about like years later, and we're like, what
do you mean you have a song with Bell and
Sebastian that you've never put out, Like, let's released that.
(09:44):
But there was you know, so many kind of like that. Yeah,
it was that. That was like so much of the
process and and yeah, I was Once they did listen
to it, we kind of got on the phone and yeah,
we ended up I ended up.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
Signing to them.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
No, that is awesome, happy ending. But yeah, I think
that song, that song is you know, I guess like I, Yeah,
I always wanted to be a musician, but my life
did take me in quite different ways. From I started
working about fifteen, I was, Yeah, I modeled and I
acted and I still still do that too, But I
guess there was that hesitation to you know, even though
(10:24):
I've been doing music the longest, there was that thing
of like, oh, God, you've done You've done all these
other things and you're known as one thing, maybe in England,
and like are you going to be allowed to switch paths?
Is it going to be accepted? Well, you know there's
always that in a you know, there's there's inner voices
in your head. So yeah, when I wrote this song,
I think it's you know, it's about kind of like
(10:47):
my experiences growing up in that industry. But it's also
if you watch the video with that, I wanted to
like inject it with a lot of humor actually just
kind of like make it into a into a funny thing.
Speaker 3 (11:00):
It was, and I did watch the video. Yes, yes,
I want to talk to you about your role in
Daisy Jones and the Six Oh. I absolutely loved that show.
Speaker 2 (11:10):
Oh, thank you so much.
Speaker 3 (11:11):
One of my favorites.
Speaker 1 (11:12):
Oh, it's one of my favorites too. Oh, definitely one
of the best experiences I've ever had on set.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
It was amazing.
Speaker 3 (11:17):
I'm glad to hear that. Me and my husband binged it. Oh,
I'm just so glad all of it. You played Karen Circo,
and she was I think loosely based upon Christy mcvee.
The show itself is loosely based upon Fleetwood Mac during
the time when they recorded Rumors. So is there Can
you talk about the experience doing Daisy Jones. I think
(11:40):
a lot of listeners have probably seen it, so, oh.
Speaker 1 (11:43):
Yeah, I mean that was It was such a It
was such an incredible shown in a lot of ways
because life sort of merit are in the way that
we actually, you know, such a long break so much,
you know, everything happened in the world, and we had
to stop for about a year. We didn't know if
it was going to go, so we kind of it
was sort of like a three or four years from
(12:03):
start to finish.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
Wow, of kind of growing up together in a way.
Speaker 1 (12:07):
You know, you look back at those photos when we
first went into the studio and started getting our sheet
music and learning all of those songs and towards you know,
to the end, it's like so much, so much had
happened to all of us, so much life had happened,
and so yeah, it was really like very special to
(12:28):
us in many ways. And musically, I mean, we've got
an incredible soundtrack to work with, we have Blake Mills
make it, so many incredible contributors. I think Jackson Brown
contributors like one of my heroes, Late for the Sky.
It's just absolutely loved that record. But yeah, so it
(12:49):
was really just like one of those dream shows where
you know that you know you've got Rece with Haspoon
producing it. You have this incredible book by Taylor Jenkins
read that that I was just such a huge fan
of of I mean when I knew that they were
making Days and the Jones and the Six, I like
stampeded into my agent's office and was like, I have.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
To get this job.
Speaker 1 (13:10):
And I think so much of that too for me
was that I had this kind of like you know,
I was walking around with like a little bit of
a hole in my heart, like you know, I really was.
So I just knew that I needed to like make
a record soon and like push myself and get you know,
get it out and get it off my chest. Otherwise,
(13:31):
you know, I would not I would always like, I'd
never forgive myself. Really, so I think playing playing Karen
actually did a lot to me. You know, playing this
very like confident woman in music kind of like seeps
into you. And I think she gave me she gets Yeah,
she gave me that gift.
Speaker 3 (13:47):
I think, well, and you answered my question because I
was going to say I read that through doing Daisy Jones,
that did give you that extra push to you know,
get your first album done.
Speaker 1 (13:57):
And I think so, yeah, you never like, it's kind
of something that I've thought about upon looking back, but
I think, yeah, I think like sometimes, you know, sometimes
it's amazing with doing films and music and art, you
just never know, like once once you're engaged with something,
you know, the way that we were with Day's Jones
and the six, you never know, like what else that's
(14:19):
going to open up for you?
Speaker 2 (14:20):
Create?
Speaker 3 (14:21):
Yeah, you opened up for Taylor Swift in London at Wembley.
Speaker 2 (14:26):
I did.
Speaker 3 (14:26):
That's amazing.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
Oh my god, it feels like a blood Well think
about it.
Speaker 3 (14:30):
I bet it was, and I really I went to
one of the tailor shows here in Los Angeles and.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
Isn't it just the most incredible thing?
Speaker 3 (14:39):
It is happened truly feet Yes, and I took my
two eight year old daughters with me, and that was
a big reason of twins.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
I do, oh, I do, thank you, that's heaven. Yes,
yes it is.
Speaker 3 (14:51):
And then there's times where I'm like what am I doing?
But the show was incredible. And one thing I really
admired about Taylor is is all of the amazing artists
she took on tour with her. So you being one
Paramoorphoebe Bridger's time Bbadoobe, she really curated this amazing lineup
of female artists to go on tour with her.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
Yes, absolutely. I mean she's such a fan and such
a supporter of of other artists and obviously it's just
you know, to get that call, to get that opportunity,
it's just so gigantic. And she has such an amazing
way of like raising other artists up and you know,
(15:34):
having having that much just having like that that, the
history that she has, Yes, the incredible breadth of work.
I mean, I don't know anyone that works like that.
And also still is just such a great, down to
earth human who is actually really fun to have a
glass of wine with I don't know anyone that has
(15:56):
that combo you know.
Speaker 3 (15:57):
Of actually, yes, yes for sure. And was there something
special about doing the shows in London being that you're
absolutely from the UK?
Speaker 1 (16:07):
My goodness, like Wembley got you know, going to Wembley Stadium.
I've been going there my whole life.
Speaker 3 (16:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:12):
Yeah, I don't think my dad.
Speaker 1 (16:14):
Really could believe believe that this it was happening, like
until it got properly announced. Yeah, he kept being like, oh,
well it's not it's not happening, So I guess I guess,
I guess it's called off.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
And I'm like, no, no, no, it is happening.
Speaker 1 (16:26):
You're going to come on the state and like we're
all going to go to Wembley and I will, And
you know, he just couldn't really compute it, and he's
sort of like there is sort's video and he sort
of stood there with this like hands up in the air,
sort of like he just couldn't, you know, he couldn't
kind of get his head around.
Speaker 3 (16:40):
There's so sweet.
Speaker 1 (16:41):
But yeah, hometown doing a show that massive with that
many seats, but also having all of your family and
all the friends that you've grown up with and all
in one place. It was really this kind of yeah,
it felt like it felt like a you know, a party.
Speaker 3 (16:58):
That was so awesome. One thing I want to ask
you was what it was like trying to finish this
album Memore of a Sparkle muffin and being extremely pregnant.
And I read you wrapped the album and then two
days later you had your days later.
Speaker 2 (17:14):
Yeah, I mean, I am.
Speaker 1 (17:16):
I'm probably somebody that struggles a little bit with like
procrastination and deadlines, so you know, this was like this,
this like throw an interesting wrench into the mix. And
in many ways, I'm kind of grateful for it looking back,
because I really had a hard deadline, and you know,
I moved the whole studio into my house. You know,
(17:39):
was also organizing a baby room at the same time.
But for me, like someone that's so bad at procrastinating,
it was kind of actually a really beautiful thing to have,
you know, to be able to kind of I couldn't
really go anywhere by that point, you know, you don't
there gets to be a point where you don't really
want to leave the house. Yep. And actually it was
kind of amazing to have this these two things coinciding
(18:03):
and and really be able to focus on the record
because I don't know, what do you I've just been
getting nervous about the whole thing about like the impending
motherhood things. Yeah, I kind of like kept yeah, I
kept myself occupied and then and then just let it
all be a surprise when when she came.
Speaker 3 (18:22):
You know what, in a way because when I have
artists in they talk about releasing a new album and
it's almost like you're giving birth to a child.
Speaker 1 (18:31):
Yeah you did it to it not obviously the same thing,
but you know, it's it's kind of, yeah, someone similar.
But it was really like a great joy to have,
to be able to have like my aunt and my
kind of family life has just like big moments in
a similar time period.
Speaker 3 (18:49):
Amazing.
Speaker 2 (18:50):
But you know, yeah, I don't know if I do
it again.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
But it's also kind of it's sort of like you
know that you know with with with records and stuff,
it's you know that you're going on tour in September,
and if you know that there was this finality to it,
it's like you can't go on tour without your new record,
so it's time to get it. It's time to get
it all there, and it was and it was it was,
it was mostly all there for the last few months.
(19:16):
It was kind of just about bringing it all together.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
And the finishing touches.
Speaker 1 (19:20):
Yeah, exactly, and yeah, I had. I had such a
great time doing it.
Speaker 2 (19:24):
That's awesome.
Speaker 3 (19:25):
Well, Suki, congratulations on your new album, Memoir of a
Sparkle Muffin. We love it. We are so excited. We
love Super Sad that we've been playing.
Speaker 1 (19:34):
Well. Thank you so much for spending Super Sad, and
thank you so much for all the support for the record.
Speaker 2 (19:38):
Absolutely really appreciate it, and we.
Speaker 3 (19:40):
Look forward to your headlining show at the Greek Theater
in Los Angeles October twenty third with Bully.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
Oh my God, Yes, everybody come. It's going to be
a great time. Thank you, so thank you so much.
Speaker 3 (19:52):
She is the voice the female musicians that are creating
tomorrow sound.
Speaker 2 (19:56):
She is the voice. I'm ninety eight seven, Eli's new
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