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Hey, it's Mom Picket. Weare on our way to the legendary Broken
Spoke. Come on, let's getout of the truck and head inside.
And damn you're proud of it.Come on, it's going side. Get
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ready for another tail from the BrokenSpoke. Hey, it's Mom Picket.
Hope you're ready for part two ofour conversation with Michael and Jenny Peacock.
We're going to talk about a lotof things, including chicken shit, bingo,
riff raft tacks, the Broken spAnyway, hang on, here's part
two of our conversation with Jenny andMike. Yeah, me and him would
love we'd go play at the WorldSeries of Poker every summer. That was
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like our little pilgrimage to go outthere. I missed that so much.
I miss going out there with them. But oh when he played poker,
though, he would wear you know, jeans and a regular shirt and like
his red cap, so we'd seeit. We'd always see it though we
go there he is with the redcap and hey, he was even on
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one of the tables with James Woodsat the end for the Super Seniors.
They were the last I think JamesWood came in like thirty fourth and my
dad came in thirty seventh or somethingout there. Oh, the guy that
owned the the Spurs, I believewas on his table, one of the
owners. Yeah that's pretty cool.Yeah yeah, And he loved and mister
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Whittt loved it because you know,I enjoy playing poker, but never in
tournaments or anywhere. We could playfor hours. I mean you could start.
One time I played when you startedat seven o'clock and I got back
to my hotel room at four amto finish, and there was only one
hundred and fifty or something in it. So you can see why the super
Seniors had I think like fifteen hundred. So it's like a couple of days
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that you play and it's all day. You get like a little break every
once in a while, but it'slike twelve hours of poker. But you
know, but like mister White soundedlike he played cards, like like he
lived, like you know, whenthis place opened, he bought beer a
case. That's exactly right, youknow, that's right. You don't over
extend yourself, right right. Ohand he used to also because he he
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stopped drinking and when he started havinghealth problems with his heart, he stopped
drinking, and so he would whenwe would go out to Vegas. He
loved to get up early in themorning and go down and get the money
and cash games off all the drunkyoung guys that were still playing poker at
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like six am. They've been upall night. And he was like,
those are the bat because they justkeep throwing money down and they don't know
what's going on, and so youcan just you know it. If anybody
has not listening to the first seasonof the podcast Teals and Broken Spoke,
you need to because we have thestories told by James by mister White,
which I'm so glad that we didthat. And then but there's a lot
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of stories that you said your daddidn't cover that you're I know, I
asked you the other day. AndI don't even know if Monni remembers this.
Maybe he does. But and thenin the it was in the nineties.
It was mid nineties, and Iwas trying to think, like was
I out of high school or wherewas I Like when I try to remember,
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TNN did a live call in showwith Willie Nelson here and it was
one of the coolest things ever andvery crazy. It was crazy also just
like the amounts or anything. No, this was afterwards. I think I
had the highwayman. I say,it was like ninety five ninety six.
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I remember being down here for itwith and it was like I think some
other channel had done a live callin. So TNN decided that they were
going to do it, and theytalked to Willy about it, and they
said where would you like to doit, and he said, I'd like
to do it the Broken Folk,So we of course accommodated and then but
the best part of it was thenight before when they were loading in all
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of the stuff for you know,you see that Willie Nelson and family,
you know, stamped on the side, and I mean they had because it
was his whole band that came andplayed here and along with Bobby Nelson's grand
piano came into the Broken spoke inthe back. They had to take the
legs and stuff off, but itdid fit, believe it or not,
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And it was on the dance floorlike him and her were standing on she
was sitting, but on the dancefloor. And then the rest of the
band and he had all that wasback before anybody had passed away. So
it was Jody. Yeah, itwas Paul Jody, all of them.
And I mean and Bobby's. Youknow, it's a brand of it is
Shimmel. It's a German piano andit's big. It's bigger than a Steinwag.
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This is this is the mid nineties. Mm hmm. Is that when
this happened where we're sitting right herenow, he's under the Annie. He
and Annie would have I think Ithink that was already been married. They've
been married because he proposed to Annieright here. Is why we call this
the Willy Nelson Right, Okay,My dad said, yeah, our employees
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would call up and say, hey, he's up there, like it'd be
like a Tuesday night or something,and he would bring Annie in here and
eat. Well. See, nowwe're getting more information that we didn't even
know. So yeah, come on, spill the beans. Yeah. Well,
I don't know too much a tonof it, but yeah, but
I do remember the TNN thing.So the night before they were loading in
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all that big equipment, et cetera, and Willie Nelson comes in because they
want to do sound check and theywant to run him through his paces sort
of like. So we got totell Willie what to play. So like
we got to Mike, my momwanted Hello Walls, so he had to
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play Hello Walls or whatever. Itwas like, you know, because people
were going to call in and hewouldn't know what song they were going to
request, and he had to beon his toes and remember because and you
know, people always try to likename some obscure songs, always always so.
But yeah, so what they didwas they I believe they gave away
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two lots of tickets and we gotto give a lot of our friends,
family, et cetera tickets and therewere supposed to be two shows, and
I think what ended up happening isnobody wanted to leave from the first show,
so they had more people kind ofcrammed in. And I don't even
know if he ever stopped. Ithink, yeah, I was here for
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and we had a big screen televisionsout in our parking line, in the
back of pickups. I had adate. I remember trying to impress her,
Oh yeah, you want to gosee Willie Nelson, you know,
yeah, And we were either outin the parking lot or we're in here
watching Willie out but that was ayou know, so yeah, sitting like
when you are like six feet fromWillie and you get to like chat with
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him and there's like fifteen people inthe whole place. That's amazing. What
song did you request? You remember? But I will tell you Angels Flying
Too Close to the Ground is myfavorite Willie song. Great song. I
love that song, so great record. Yeah, amazing, Yeah, I
love that. No, your daddidn't share that story? What other stories?
Yeah? You know what kind ofspurred me off is I follow a
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ton of country you know, Facebookpages, et cetera, to get content
for the broken Spoke stuff, andsomebody had posted it on I think honky
Tonk Times or something. They hadposted a video of it, and so
it jogged my memory because there's probablystuff on YouTube about it. Yes there
is, Yeah, and yeah,it was really fun and I think Emmy
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Lou called in and maybe he didmaybe six or seven songs or something.
But yeah, we'll never forget thatnight. That was crazy crazy. We
talked about Friday Night Lives being filmedat her. How many movies have actually
been filmed at her? I remember, well Dolly parton the Ravens and yes,
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so that was yeah, that waswe had a lot of we haven't
really had any big, big likeyou know at the theater movies. We've
had a lot of made for TVmovies, the TV series also, yeah
that too. And the biggest youknow, like at the theater movie was
Honeysuckle Rose way back in the day. They did it right here. They
were playing pool, right. Iwas watching that the other day. That
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was a spoke. And yeah,and where the bar the front bar is
that that's a wall. But atthe very beginning, it was back when
the bar was over across all theway across the room and that was a
wall right there. So this isnineteen eighty seventy nine, nineteen eighty so
when yeah, because we got thatbar like in the eighty five. So
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you see my dad tending barb therea little bit like fast go back and
watch. Yeah, and then Terryand my mom are here, and I
believe that like kind of right nextto that. Where were you? I
wasn't here. I was baby.I was like five years old or something.
Yeah, I was young, soI wasn't here. I remember they
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shot part of that. I foundout where they shot part of it.
That the end concert scene was shotout there three sixty before the bridge was
there for the Pennybacker Bridges where theyshot the outdoor and I know that the
old out on Bks, the oldsoap Preak saloon was used as in the
movie three different venues, you know. Yeah, they would dress different clothes.
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Oh yeah, that was And atthe very beginning of oh I know,
I posted, I posted a clipfrom it that my dad had filmed,
and you can hear my dad yackingabout it like I remember that or
whatever, you know, where hewas talk videoing it off the television.
But he's yacking about it at thesame time. So I'll have to find
that sent it to you. Iwould see there was, but that was
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back when we had a phone boothon the porch. And at the very
beginning of the scene, one ofthe musicians are out there on the phone
and and my dad was so madwhen they took that, like he was
like phone booth. Yeah, butanyway, so that was done. So
oh but the Dolly and Ray Bensonmovie with Gary Busey is pure magic.
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It's so cheesy good. It's calledWild Texas Wind and she's a singer with
Ray. They've got a band togetherand his name is Ben Rayson. Yeah,
they shot part of that here andpart of it also a dance cross
texts. Dance cross textas theater.We don't talk about us across text.
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Okay, that's what it was.But you know what something but you guys
are here, yes, thank god, But just talking about another venue in
ninety my goodness, maybe ninety three. Uh, the old building way out
on Breaker, Lamar and Breaker.They were tearing down the Skyline Club,
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and you know, and that's whereHank Williams had his last gig, and
that's where Johnny Harton had his lastgig, and Patsy Klein played there,
and Jim Reeves and everybody everly Brothers, Buddy Holly, you know Elvis.
Elvis played the Skyline three times,Yes, and they were tearing it down.
And I didn't even you know,certainly didn't know we were family.
But I didn't know mister White allthat well. You know, I was
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in the thing about the Wagoneers whenwe first got started. We were on
tour all the time. We livedhere, but we played literally two hundred
and fifty three hundred dates a year, so we would play in Austin like
twice a year. When we werehome. We wanted to come to the
Broken Spoken to the Chicken fried Steaknow work necessarily, So I didn't know
you did all that well, buthe knew how interested I was in country
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music history, in Texas history,and uh, your daddy called me and
he said, uh, is thismoney warding the wagoneers? I said,
yeah, who's this? He goes, this is James White, the Broken
Spoke and I went hello, misterWhite, and he'd never called me at
home. He said, uh,they are tearing down the Skyline tomorrow.
And I said, uh, yes, sir, And he goes, well,
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I'm gonna go there and I'm gonnago get me a piece of that.
I thought maybe you'd like to joinme. I never even had lunch
with you that before. So itwas me and mister White and George mcjeski.
Uh, and George and Carlin foundedSoak Creek Saloon. And at the
second Soap Creek location was the oldSkyline Club, okay, and I and
I was inside the building and uh, and there was just and it looked
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it had been at one place likea rehab drug rehab placed there. You
can see where there were little cubiclesfor people to sleep and I said,
mister White, where where was thestage? And uh? And he showed
me right where the stage was andand there was a uh a place where
the musicians the singer's feet had rubbedall the finish off the wood hollowed circle
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and it's right right. And Isaid, I said, I want to
grab me board, and he said, well, get you get your board.
And this is mister White. Getyour board right here. Look at
it. I look at it.That that Elvis's feet did that. Hank
William's feet did that right. Andmister White helped me pull that up.
And I know he got a boardtoo. Yeah. He says the same
thing about you know the stage herelike a tallow ground. It is ground.
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And when he does the speech,Bob Wills was right here, you
know, like and he's it's fortrue. He really was. And I
was talking to mister White just youknow. He said, I hate to
see this old building go. Hesaid, boy, he said, I
was, He said, when Iwas a boy. Because your daddy's born
in forty thirty nine, thirty nine, he said, he said, I
saw He said, I saw theEverly brothers here, you know, and
they were when they were just acountry act, you know, before Bye
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Bye Love and so anyway, andhe said, it's a shame to see
this place go. And then andthen he just got kind of wistful and
he said, you know, peoplethink we're in competition. He said,
but horn Stark was the guy thathe goes. He goes. Me and
Warren, we're pulling for each other. Yeah, and he said, And
when I started The Spoke in sixtyfour, Warren said we needed a place
down south, and just that thatera of venue owner and club owner where
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they're not in competition, they're pullingfor one another. One has everything way
up north, one has it waydownside. It's totally the same. Really,
we love the Continental. It's likeour sister kind of it feels like
sister venues or you know what Imean. Like we're kind of all in
a little club because we've been herefor so long and we're the real deal.
The Continental, Socks and Pub andthe Broken Spoke We've always and Jenny's
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Little Longhorn are always together. Youknow, Terry that does Jenny's Little Longhorn
calls me with names, you knowbands. I do the same for her
when I get a new band.That's not from down here. I tell
them to call the Continental or youknow or other yeah, or Genius,
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because that's the legacy of your daddyright there. Yeah. Yeah, I
think because if they play, youknow, if they're playing other venues,
that that introduces them to other peoplethat will come out here later on,
you know, And we want thosevenues to survive because you can't be the
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live music capital of the world ifyou know, you don't have any live
music venues. And those guys,the people that own those I was telling
Mike, are are you know,they've been here for so long. They
might not be as well known asmy dad because he put himself out into
the front, like he was likeliterally like the you know, the face
of the broken spokes absolutely and andyou know Steve and Joey they don't they're
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not it's like out and you know, they're not up on stage doing big
speeches or whatever. But those guysare doing the same job my dad.
Did you know. They're keeping livemusic going and they're honorable people. Yeah,
Joe's a real good guy. Anythoughts maybe getting chicken ship bingo down
here? Oh my god, Itold listen, just jumped up listen.
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I told when Dale stopped doing it, out it Jenny's little longhorn. I
told my dad, I said,well, we could still have Jenny's chicken
Ship bingo. It's not a lie. My name is Jenny and it's spelled
identical. I'm a Virginia also,so I'm a g I N N Y.
So I was kidding with Dad,but yeah, he never. We
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were worried. We didn't know howwe could do it because we have a
health permit, like we sell food, so you can't have live animal chicken.
We worry about the health's apartment.And let me just say this now
that that's the business reason of it, and that makes perfect cance. And
I didn't know that. One timewe were settling up and mister White said,
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uh uh, you ever picked thatchicken ship bngo, And I said,
I said, no, sir,I never have. He goes yeah.
I just don't you know. Andmister White called every band leader a
star he goes he goes yeah.I don't know if any star once his
name associated with chicken ship. That'shilarious. I didn't hear to say that.
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It sounds exactly would say literally,like that's how he would see it.
That's how he would see it,because he was a promoter at heart.
He was a promoter. It's liketo this day, I come and
I hang posters up the friday.We will play here the last Friday of
every month, and I come everyFriday before and because when I would come
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and hang those posters up, andI don't know if it brings one one
extra person every every month. Itis my little hey I Loved You card
to James White, because he wouldsay, he goes, you're the only
star that comes here and hangs hisown, but you grab a staple gun
and you put it in there here. The other day it was good enough
for George to stand in front ofSir George's most recent promo shot. It
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says a wagoner poster behind it.It's like, look, there's the wagonster.
Something else you do in your shows. Here at this spoke, very
important of your first responder. Goahead and get all first responders, get
in free to the wagoneers at thebroken spoke. And I mean when we
first started it, mister White said, well, it's just out of your
pocket. Whatever you I think it'dbe great. I would love it if
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you did it and then and hesaid, so those are cops. I
said, sir, it's anybody thatkeeps us free and safe. So it
is cops, fire ems active military. And all you got to do is
just go tell Mike at the dooryou're a first responder. And one time
we were afterwards we'd had like,I don't like fifteen of them that Mike
goes. He goes, I don'tthink they were first responders. And the
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kid comes up to be drunk andhe goes, hey, I told them
we were a first responder. Wegot in free. I said, why
would you tell me that? Andhe goes because it's cool. I said,
well, it's money out of mypocket. And he goes, how
do you mean he was so drunk, and I said, I said,
buddy, I'm just glad you came. Next time you come pay and see
the wagoneers And he goes, yeah, of course I hadn't seen him since.
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But my whole thing is, ifyou got to lie about being a
first responder to get into a wagonears show, that's between you and your
god, and I'm not going tocome between that. Let me tell you
we're a big plug here this worldwide. You don't have to be an
Austin right, No, no,no first responders, the first responders,
any first response. We may needa little proof. Maybe we'll have to
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tell Mike to at least like anI or something funny. One day,
the Hey Bail, we're playing inthe bank and it was like, you
know, old pool ball and allthose guys in the hay Ball, old
class famous musician, and these kidscome up to me like five dollars to
go in the pie. Whoa,and I'm gonna pay that. And I'm
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like, dude, I said,you realize how much talented man played with
Elvis Prestley, Johnny. But likeJenny said, you know, you could
have a monk keep hanging on abass drum down sixth Street. But what
did your dad called? What didyour dad call dollar cover? In the
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seventies, w the riff raft tax? What the riff raft? They charged
a dollar when George was here onWednesdays charts a dollar cover and mister White
told me, he said, wejust had to come up with a riff
raft tax. And Netta came upwith that dollar to keep the riff rap
out rap. It's a dollar.That's hilarious. I'd never heard. That
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was so great, That is funny, and it's not over yet. Get
ready for the conclusion Part three ofour visit with Michael and Jenny Peacock right
here on Tails and Broken Spoke nextweek. Tales from the Broken Spoke is
recorded live at The Broken Spoke inAustin, Texas, hosted by Country Radio
Hall of Fame broadcaster Bob Pickett andMonty Warden, Recorded, mixed down and
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produced by Mike rivera MM