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May 29, 2024 23 mins
I sat down with hip hop soul artists Flwr Chld and Grimm. Lynn to discuss their upcoming Cafe Noire tour.  If you havent head of them, don't worry you will, because they are a needed vibe. Get into it. performing @thefoundry in Philly on 6/15.  See below link for tickets and info on the artists. 




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Get Your Girl Toy aka Chocolate Divinity, and welcome to Talk to Me Toy
the Interview where we'll sit down fromtime to time with the highest up and
coming talent from around the world.I hope you enjoy Talk to Me Toy
the Interviews. All Right, ladiesand gentlemen, boys and girl, it's

(00:22):
another edition of Talk to Me Toy. And I have two very talented up
and coming black men what you say, R and B hip hop entertainers.
We have Flower Child and Grimlin onthe line. Thank you so much for
joining us today, fellas. Yeah, thank you, really blessed. Thank

(00:49):
you know, I'm a blessing causeagain, like I said, so,
when I got this opportunity, Isaid, wait a minute. I know
both names because I'm a playlist girl. So I'm like an auto playlist girl.
So you know, you put iton in a shower and I'm like,
oh, who song is that.I'll look down, I'm like flower
Child, Okay, I like thisvibe. Then I'll look another few songs
will come and I'm like, groh, where does his name come from?

(01:11):
Okay, this is a vibe.So when it came across my desk,
I was like, yes, Ireally need to talk to y'all. Now
you're both outside out by way ofAtlanta. Did you know each other prior
to this link up? Yeah,we're best friends. Yeah shit, we're
friend college. Yeah, we've knowneach other since our since second semester of

(01:34):
college, second semetter, my firstyear, second like twenty sixteenteen sixteen.
Yeah, that is so dope nowthat you guys connect. Like when you
guys first connected as friends, didyou know that you were doing like music
or was that just a natural introduction? Well, he was doing music,

(01:59):
okay for sure. I was kindof like just getting into it on a
more serious note because it was somethingthat I was always interested in, always
was involved in schools like chorus banyou know, the arts in general.
But it was nothing I didn't takeserious until a couple of peers such as

(02:22):
Flower Child, you know, toldme like, bro, you know,
like you you got potential, andhe saw the potential in me and you
know, pushed me to be better. You know, so co one friends
supporting each other when you see whenyou see the talent and the what it
could be the fact that he pouredinto you was like, nah, bro,

(02:43):
this this is what you're supposed tobe doing it, looks I saw.
Yeah. I was going to say, I can't take full credit for
that, only because it's like weit's it's a much larger friend group outside
of just us. It's like five, six, seven of us that are
just really close and we all metduring that first year of college, so
we all kind of came together andmet met through one homie and then it's

(03:07):
just like, oh, we starthanging out and then like this is a
a larger collective of all of us. So yeah, I don't know if
you guys are familiar with up here. I mean, Philly is a heavy
musical influential city. But to day, I mean, you had what is
it, oh God, the Soundof Philadelphia, Philadelphia, which is the

(03:28):
gamb Kenny Gamble, and today now, well a few years ago, we
had the Black Lily. So itwas like the neo soul generation. And
it was funny because kind of howthey started was like, oh, we
were all friends and we just poppedup and started performing at the Black Lily.
And I think in those moments,you guys might not even realize you
are creating a movement and and curatinga whole generation of music. So do

(03:53):
you guys kind of wear that onyour back with pride or do you not
even realize that, hey, thisis what we're doing. Like, uh,
we're fully aware that being from Atlanta, and just like you know,
there's not a whole lot of peoplethat do what we do in terms of

(04:15):
the sound that we're pushing and thatwe're creating. So, you know,
like I said, very tight knitgroup of people. I'll leave it at
that. Ry. I know youwere going to say something just now.
I was gonna say something similar tothe effect of what he was saying.
It's just, uh, we understand, like the community that we have is

(04:38):
small, and we also know thatAtlanta we have a lot of culture.
You know, our background. Weused to be very dominant for us an
R and B back when you know, the face was a thing and stuff
like that. When it came tolike neo soul and just like the alternative

(04:59):
side of things, trapping hip hoptook more of a dominant role in the
city. You know, we kindof just went under the radar and we've
just been building this community. Sometimeswe don't realize what we're doing until,
like you have regular you know,just people that don't do music. Just

(05:20):
come up to us and just youknow, tell us how you know,
influential we are, or even evenour peers that are within the industry themselves,
tell us how important a role weplay. I had one friend or
peer like at a party, youknow, come up to me and he

(05:41):
was drunk, but he was lettingme alone. Like, bro, people
are are noticing you, are likepaying very close attention. They're at the
shows, you know, like peopleare checking you out, and they know
how important the both of you areto this city. And we want to
owe always be a vessel for emergingartists that want to do what we do,

(06:05):
you know, to continue to expandon this community. Absolutely. It's
so funny that you guys mentioned aboutwhat's happening in Atlanta, and it does
seem to be this resurgence of goodmusic coming back. I know you guys
have a would you first, wouldyou consider your style of music to be
what is it like the hip hop, lo fi or the low fi type

(06:29):
genre of music? I go ahead, personally, nah, I wouldn't consider
okay, like because we just wejust want to make stuff that sounds good.
It's all us about a feeling forus. So whatever we're into in
that moment, you know we're gonnaexecute it. We're going to work on

(06:53):
it to the point where the executionsounds good to us. And it's very
intentional in regard to that. Andonce that execution is completely, give it
out to the world and you know, it's it's up to them to critique.
I'm going now, all right.I like that and I love how
And also it seems like in Atlantait's that return of y'all are making waves

(07:16):
with bringing house back. What realhouse music? Do y'all see y'allselves doing
maybe stuff like that down the lineas well, or drawing some of that
and inspire your music. I wouldsay it's kind of in what we're doing
already. For myself, I doa lot of like edits and remixes outside

(07:40):
of like the original music, andsometimes that influence kind of like trickles into
like what we do, especially onlike this project specifically, there's a lot
of bounce with it all over theplace. So yeah, I would say,
like that's something that I could seeus doing more of down the line,
but it's definite you can hear thatinfluence infused within the project along with

(08:03):
a slew of other influences as well. Absolutely, okay, and let's get
into this project because y'all, whenI tell you it is, my Sunday
was amazing. I sat on acouch. It was a nice rainy day
here. You know, I gotinto some some vibes, might be a
little smoke sparked a little bit,yet be a good breakfast and I just
put Cafe Noir on the entire time. The album is amazing. Move that

(08:30):
is everything. So can you giveus some the insight on Move? How
did this song come about? Andwill this be the signature? Will you
say, the first release off ofalbum? So it was actually the first
single. It was the first thing. Yeah, it was the initial single,

(08:54):
and basically that was to you know, set the tone of what the
sound would be like, you know, because I feel like we were we've
already kind of introduced the sound,but like now we're diving deeper into it.
So you know, let's make itmore funky, more bouncy, more

(09:16):
dance oriented. And you know,let's let's add you know, some of
the homies on it. So youknow, we reached out to our homie
Tonya playing Kisa, and you know, he laced us with that with that
opener, you know, for ourintro. Yeah, and that really set
the phone for for what was tocome for the rest of the song.

(09:39):
Yeah. But I also I alsowant to mention, you know, like
that record came about through a lotof our experiences coming up in Atlanta,
like just going out and like asyoung young adults still in college or just
or fresh out of college and experiencinglike like early adulthood and what that looks

(10:01):
like for us. And we have, like we had some staples within the
city that like are no longer thereor some of them are starting to come
back, you know, we lostthem due to the pandemic, And we
just wanted to make a record thatfelt really nostalgic from that time specifically where

(10:22):
we were just kind of like enjoylife without like thinking about any of the
other worries of the world, youknow, all of the responsibilities that we
have now. You know what I'msaying. It's funny because you mentioned like
a time to go back. Itseems like you guys are very heavily influenced
by seventies and eighties. It's Iforgot which song it was, apologies,

(10:45):
but one of you made reference toStudio fifty four and I got excited and
which lyric that? Well? Thatwas you come on Grimblin? Yes,
which song is that? Gremlin?Uh? I'm so sorry I forgot,
but I know it's all of Southerngrooves. Yeah, I think I know
what you're talking about. Yeah.And it's funny that when that came up,

(11:07):
I got excited because that is exactlythe vibe that both of you guys
give me. Like your music overall, it just I don't know, like
for me, the seventies, Ilook at that as like the golden era
of music, and it was influencesof it is it is absolute corporated,
and I always say I'm like partof me. I'm like it was I

(11:28):
bored in a different generation. Butif I was like in my twenties at
Studio fifty four, I don't thinkI would have survived. I having a
ball you catch me next to Marvinor Michael just you know, grooving a
something, because I love that.I personally had like a you know,
when I was in my discovery phaseof like listening into more music because Flower

(11:52):
Child and the rest of our friends, you know, were just telling me
to like you know, experiment listento new things since a lot of music
from the eighties and seventies growing up, but like you know, I was
I was listening to it more soI was hearing it, I wasn't really
listening to it. So you know, like now I'm grown, I'm in

(12:13):
college, and I want to takethis music stuff seriously, and like I'm
really listening to Marvin, I'm reallylistening to Roy Ayers, I'm really listening
to Teddy, like all of thesegreats that came out of that era,
Remote, Stevie, everybody. AndI just had this obsession of like,

(12:35):
I want this feeling to be incorporatedinto the music that I make now,
just in a modern way. Andthat's that's how you know, I was
able to capture the sound that Ihave now and it feels very authentic and
it feels very meat. So thatpart came easy when it came to making

(13:01):
this project because of you know,I feel like when when him and When
get together, it is just asynergy. Yeah, child, y'all make
magic together. Now I want toget into one another song that now I'm
about to getting y'all business real quick. Brown, Let's say the way now,

(13:28):
I said, now, who's insightthat the whose perspective that miss Ebonie
Brown cover? Okay, that's theflower Child. The thing I loved about
this song because it has a tendencylike it could have gone super risque.
But the way you guys chose tocapture, you know, a possible one

(13:48):
night stand. You really don't knowwhere it's going to go at all.
But it was like, y'all didsuch a beautiful job at capturing like the
lead up to it and the feelingsthat you feel when you meet that person.
It's like, I don't know wherethis could go, but it could
go either way. But let's justfocus on the moment right now. So
where did you guys draw from that? Peece? Personal experience? So I

(14:13):
let him very very very personal experience, you know, child? Yes,
you know, like dating in NewYork, it's it's a lot of fun,
you know. You you just meeta lot of different people. Uh.
And at the time, this iswhen I first moved to New York,
I think I was like six monthsin or something. The story is

(14:35):
very cut and dry. I washanging out with this one young lady.
Uh, and she said, toyou, mind if I invite her friend
out and I was just like,kind of but I didn't say it,
and I was just like, it'sfine because she invited a couple of friends
out, So I was like,I might as want to write it for
a note as well. So whena friend came through the door, I

(14:56):
was like, oh, you failedto mention in that she looks like that
ten. Yeah. I told himabout the situation and yeah, that's I
would just leave it at that.That's dating in New York and something something

(15:18):
sparked and both of us. Iwas just like, man, we don't
make more risky songs like that.We usually like gear more towards like just
super sensual music. But I feellike there's a way for us to do
it tastefully. So how can welike say something that's really out there with

(15:41):
the first line right, but stilllike make it gel with like the production
and for it to all make sense. And I feel like his voice just
naturally is super sultry, you knowwhat I'm saying, So it kind of
like pulls you in. Initially It'slike I really like your friend. It's
like, WHOA, you're not listeningto us. It's like there's no four

(16:03):
bar intro with the intro with theinstrumental before you hear the lyrics, it's
like dum and then that line rightthere. So it catches you off guard,
but it, yeah, it pullsyou in and it makes you want
to listen more. Like I feellike we I feel like we did our
best to execute it in a waythat you know, uh, it was

(16:26):
something that the ladies could even listento and appreciate you because we caught a
lot of flak lit like before weeven put it out. People are like,
oh, man, like this iscrazy, this is such and such.
I'm just like a lot of yeah, a lot of our lady friends
were like, oh, this istoxic or whatever, and I'm just like,

(16:48):
I mean, we're speaking from ourperspective, but women also operate in
this lane as well, so we'retelling the truth. Friend group like,
you know, you met you meta guy, he's fine, his friend
come around and the other friend finefiner. You feel me, So it's
like, you know this this goboth ways. This is it Listen,

(17:15):
people date very differently these days.So but yeah, so funny because listening
to it, it always brought meback to it actually brought me back to
COmON go which was another song abouta threesome happening, and if he did
it in such a classy way thatif you're not really listening, like y'all
said, you would have no whatit's about. It's just a beautiful song.

(17:37):
Meanwhile, we're getting it on inhere. It's a three ways,
So no, that's what it kindof put me in the mind of.
I also want wanted. We're notgoing to keep you guys too long.
I'm sure you're very busy. Iwant to get into, like you said,
everything normally you guys do. It'svery classic, it's soul. It's
like about love and where do youguys draw from because what the dating pool

(18:00):
is giving you out here on theseapps just scenes like it's totally different than
what you guys sing about. AndI love that you guys are singing about
and rap about, you know,real love, because it's still out there
and it exists. But I thinkjust the dating scene right now, it
it can very much feel like it'snot out there. So do you guys

(18:22):
pour is that pretty much? Iwant to say your signature to let people
know the love is still out here. Don't get don't get distracted, or
just want to. I want tojust say, you know, living living
life for real, touching grass,you know, not living on the internet.
I feel like a lot of peopletend to uh live their standards by

(18:45):
what they see, you know oneand what you see is even real.
So you know, just like meetpeople in real life, you know,
have conversations with people, and youknow, the people that are for you
will tend to gravitate towards you.The ones that aren't, you know,

(19:07):
will see themselves out. You don'teven get to see yourself out in them
situations. But we've been around reallove, platonic, romantic, familial,
so like this is nothing new tous, nor is it something uncommon where

(19:27):
we can't talk about it because we'realways surrounded by it. So why not
talk about things that you know,that's our lifestyle, those are our interests,
you know, and I want,I always want to shed light on
that because that's our true authentic selves. Yeah, at the end of the
day, you can you can definitelyhear it in the music. I feel
like all the experiences that we have, like you said, whether it be

(19:51):
romantic or platonic, like we tryto write about those experiences and just be
honest you know, and like people. It's it's a universal language at the
end of the day, and it'sit's something that people can relate to,
you know. It's this is alot of people's escapism from like reality,
but ironically this you can find thatreality through music as well. Absolutely,

(20:18):
So, y'all just stay up outthere. Don't let these social media everybody
and a mother with a path witha podcast, don't let that disillusion you
from what's going on on out here. The love is still loving. Okay,
that's some grass and and and yeah, like Ryan said, go outside,
get some son and and get offyour phone. I love it.

(20:41):
Look so much for joining me,guys. Now, when does the tour
actually kick off? Two weeks?Two weeks exactly? All right? Is
this June tenth? Okay? Yeah, because you guys are June eleven?
Okay, Now with the first date? Torono was the first date? Okay?

(21:03):
Now is this your guys, hisfirst time going on tour together?
No, we did all like,yeah, okay, good, so y'all
done worked out the kings on thefirst one. Oh yeah, yeah,
well yeah, I mean it's stilla lot on this one because we are
doing almost three times the amount ofdates, but we're a lot more prepared

(21:23):
this year. All right, wewill know how to deal with anything any
other variablestone our way. Come onnow, all right, guys, Well,
y'all can see Flower Child and Grimlinon the Cafe no our tour on
what is I think it's June fifteenthhere at the Fouctory in Philadelphia, so
show starts at eight. I thinkdoors probably open up at about seven seven.

(21:47):
Yeah, available. You can purchasethe five Nation, or you can
head to their pages and purchase thatway. Okay, you guys want to
get your handles really quick. Onhow people can find you, go Brimlin,
g R I M M dot ly n N. It's Instagram,

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uh, Twitter, lovebor x,excuse me X love a boy Gram,
l u v A b O Ig R I m M. And you
can find me at Flower Child anywhere. Plus the underscores f L W R

(22:29):
C H y L D so flowerwith no viows y instead of an ie
for child. I'm one now y'allheard them, So make sure if you
are in Philadelphia June fifteenth. Itgoes down Saturday eight o'clock at the Foundry
Fellas. Hopefully I will be onsite because I would love to meet you
in person. Absolutely love to seeyou there, Yes to see the Absolutely

(22:53):
I will be listen. This isyour whole vibe, is my vibe,
so I would be more than happyto be in that building. So thank
y'all so very much for tuning in. And that was the latest edition of
Talk to Me Toy. Hellos againfor joining. She ate this, Thank
you, blessed, appreciate it,thank you, thank you so much.

(23:17):
Guys, have a good one.
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