June 11, 2025 • 11 mins
Have you ever done a home project and afterwards felt like you should've hired a pro?
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Michigan's number one for New Country be ninety three. They
say hindsight is twenty twenty. I find that to be
absolutely true. When it comes to DIY projects at the house,
I feel like I I'm a.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
Big DIY person.
Speaker 1 (00:15):
Yeah, I feel like it's like a pride.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
And ego thing, or it used to be.
Speaker 1 (00:20):
I feel like now that I've been in my house
for seven eight years, I'm sort of letting go of
the of the DIY control a little bit and I'm like,
I'm just gonna call someone, Yeah, my time is worth it.
I need this to be done. I need it to
be done correctly. If I do it, all I'm going
to see are my mistakes. If someone else does it,
(00:40):
I'm gonna be like they did a really good job
with that.
Speaker 3 (00:44):
I uh, kind of the same. Mind's not like the
passion for DIY though. It's it's just to get a
good deal, and I feel like if I could do
it myself, it's usually cheaper. It's yeah, it's a skill,
like it's a skill I've learned. I feel Don't you
feel accomplished when you do it too, especially something you
never thought you could do.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
It's a feeling unlike anything else.
Speaker 4 (01:02):
Yeah, but they're usually what happened.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
I don't know if this happens to you, it sounds
like you accomplish a lot of yours. I get a
percentage of the way through and go all right, we're
just calling somebody.
Speaker 4 (01:14):
We're just calling somebody.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
I feel like my problem is that I love the demo. Yeah,
I love demo day and then like putting it all
back together. Like I just posted a picture of my
half bathroom that I've been working on for like four
and a half years. I'm like a little bit closer
and a little bit closer and a little bit closer,
but you know, we're still pushing.
Speaker 3 (01:35):
Yeah, there was a I just saw the picture. It
looks it looks good. It looks I like to sink
a lot.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
It's coming along.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
You and I have talked about this before. We just
got our closet done in our bedroom, and it took
like like a year and a half to get it
all together, and then we had to save the money
for it.
Speaker 4 (01:52):
But there was a period in there where I'm like.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
I could build a closet, right, I could do you
know what I mean, I've got I went to the
goat or the the home shows or whatever.
Speaker 4 (02:01):
I went to all these different closet plays. I'm like,
I could. I went to Ikea, I could build a closet.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
Oh the Ikea videos on TikTok of the people like,
here's how I reworked all these Ikea cabinets into this
beautiful built in situation. And I'm like, go to jail.
You're lying to people. You have so many tools. You're
not showing us. You took like a week off to
do this, Yes, you're not, like anyways, don't get me
(02:30):
started on that, because we'll go down a different rabit.
Speaker 3 (02:34):
But then I call somebody and it was done in
like I felt like three hours. The entire thing done perfectly,
every inch measured correctly. If you brought a level out,
it would all be level and correctly done. It was
the like, that's those are the reminders, right, Just let
somebody do it.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
Just spend the money.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
Just let somebody do it. It'll be worth it. My brother
in law, he gets of the Year for this in
my book.
Speaker 4 (03:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
But the amount of time, I mean, who knew that
this was gonna take this long? Was gonna be so
many steps I will share with you coming up the
project that he just took on. But I'm just wondering, like,
what is the project you wish you would have called
someone for.
Speaker 3 (03:21):
I feel like I could list a bunch because there's
I start them and I think I could do them,
and I'll tackle one and it'll work.
Speaker 4 (03:29):
Like I did the microwave.
Speaker 3 (03:31):
Put a microwave in, took I have one of those
hanging microwaves, took that one out myself, put that one
a new one in myself, and I went, I could
do anything. I can conquer the world. So then I'll
try to go, like paint the walls. I'm not paying walls.
Why am I painting walls. I'm terrible at paying. I
can't pay color.
Speaker 4 (03:47):
I like to paint.
Speaker 3 (03:48):
I didn't say I don't like to. I'm just I
can't do it. It's not my thing.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
My brother in law kids Dad of the Year for this.
He got my nieces and my nephew. There are three
of them. Tonal and my sister and my brother in
law got them. This epic play structure swing set.
Speaker 4 (04:07):
Oh those are nice and it.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
Is just the playset swingset of your dreams as a kid.
It's got a rock climbing wall, it's got a rope wall.
It has a like net bucket swing underneath it. This
thing as like a roof over it. I mean, this
thing is nicer than my house. You think I'm kidding,
but I am actually not.
Speaker 4 (04:28):
No, those are pricey too.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
And they ordered it online and when it arrived, I mean,
it was a lot of pieces right, and the company
that they ordered it from suggested like a someone in
the area to come and put it together, and scheduling conflict,
I don't know. The guy didn't show. So my brother
in law it was labor day weekend and he was like, no,
I'm doing this.
Speaker 4 (04:49):
You put together a playset himself.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
So he goes online and they have the instructions and
their video instructions, which I think is brilliant. Everything needs
video instructions, like walking you through step by step. This
especially needed it. This took more than twenty hours of labor.
It was more than one hundred and seventy steps to
(05:12):
put this swing set together.
Speaker 4 (05:14):
No thank you.
Speaker 1 (05:15):
And when it was done, I mean it took him
like two or three days to get this all done.
But he did it, and he did it all himself,
and it is beautiful. And he is dad of the
year in my eyes for that. But I just feel like,
and it's a little bit too soon still, But one
day I will ask him, like, Hey, do you wish
you would have called someone like, do you wish he
(05:37):
would have waited for the guy that the company recommended
and like tried a little bit one hundred and seventy
steps in twenty hours for this swing set?
Speaker 4 (05:44):
No, thank you?
Speaker 2 (05:45):
Was it worth it?
Speaker 4 (05:48):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (05:48):
I mean I guess at the end of the because
it's got it's a thing that's going to last for
years and years and years and years and bring joy
for years and years and years, and yow.
Speaker 4 (05:55):
Absolutely.
Speaker 3 (05:56):
I would wait a week or two to ask him
absolutely that question. Oh I'm going to wait, but I
bet he says, yes. I don't want to do. I
have no interest in it. We had the option of
buying one of those new and putting them together, or
going to Facebook marketplace and being like, we'll buy a
used one and we'll get it deliver or we'll we'll
find a way to get it delivered to our house.
Speaker 4 (06:17):
And no way I'm putting that together. Yeah, no way.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
It's the B ninety three Morning Show. I'm Ali Mack
and Mike my brother in law gets Dad of the Year.
He just built his kids an awesome swing set.
Speaker 4 (06:31):
Those are so hard to build.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
I had no idea. I mean, I don't have kids.
I haven't even thought about purchasing a swing set ever
in my life. Had no idea how any of this
process works.
Speaker 3 (06:45):
It is a great purchase because it's something you could use,
especially if they're younger for years. It's like a staple
and core memory and a childhood But they're expensive, brand
new and brand new. You have to put them together
peace by peace, and it is so hard.
Speaker 1 (07:02):
Yes, that's exactly what he did. Because when they bought
the swingset online, I can't remember what company it was.
I s I'll post a picture of the swing set
because it is noise. But it came with like subcontractor
information like, hey, here are the pros in your area
that we suggest to come and put the swing set together.
(07:24):
And of course, after you buy the swingset, then you
got to pay the people to put it together. And
then there was like some sort of scheduling conflict where
they like hired the guy to come put together this
swing set and he just like never showed, and my
brother in law was like, no, I'm not.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
I'm doing this.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
Labor Day weekend rolled around and he was like, this
is what I am doing. This will be done. So
he goes online to download the instructions for the swing set.
First of all, video instructions.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
Brilliant.
Speaker 4 (07:52):
That is a great idea.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
Why don't more things have video instructions, like step by
step video instructions. One hundred and seventy steps to put
this thing together?
Speaker 4 (08:03):
No, thank you.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
The twenty hours is what the estimation was on the
video steps from start to finish, and that was like
two or three people working on this. My brother in
law did it all himself. I was there for some
of it to just kind of like keep an eye
on the kids, so he wasn't like constantly bombarded.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
Daddy, can I do that?
Speaker 4 (08:23):
Daddy?
Speaker 5 (08:24):
Can I do that?
Speaker 4 (08:24):
Daddy?
Speaker 5 (08:25):
Can I help you?
Speaker 2 (08:25):
Can I help you?
Speaker 4 (08:26):
Can I help you?
Speaker 3 (08:26):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (08:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
One of the things I thought was funny was like
I offered to like unwrap things for him or like
hand him things or like whatever, and he was like, nope,
I'm doing it myself. Yeah, start to finish every single step.
Now it's a pride thing.
Speaker 3 (08:42):
Uh Uh, that's yeah, I'm not doing that. Not doing
you want to help, I would gladly take help.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
Like, looking back on it, now, hire somebody.
Speaker 3 (08:53):
Hi.
Speaker 6 (08:53):
My name is Tina and I am from Hating Tina.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
Did you build something or do you wish you would
have called someone?
Speaker 6 (09:00):
Well, we didn't build anything. My husband and I took
on this project of tearing out the tile in our
in ground swimming pool and then painting it. And oh,
my word, is that a job.
Speaker 1 (09:16):
You know what's crazy? Our boss just did that in
his pool. They had to paint it and retile it
and like do the whole thing. They've been working on
it for like the last couple of weeks.
Speaker 6 (09:25):
Yeah, this took us about probably six weeks total, just
between while we're older, so I was probably a little slower,
and then we had to buy certain tools to get
it done. And then the funniest part is I used
to have an in ground pool and I tried to.
Speaker 5 (09:40):
Share with my husband.
Speaker 6 (09:41):
You know, I think maybe you should get some sand
to put in the paint, just for.
Speaker 5 (09:45):
Grip, you know, and he's like, oh, we don't need that. Well,
I want to go down into the bottom of the
pool and there was some water in there, and he
went for a swim. He sends me a text, but
I think we should reconsider putting I'm stands in the
paint because I just went women.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
Funny, that's the thing with DIY is that the project
is just it's never the project. It's always like sixteen
other things that come up when you're in the middle
of it, and then it like it just snowballs.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
Amen, have a great DAYTENA, thanks for calling.
Speaker 6 (10:24):
Yeah you too, Bye bye, bye bye.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
What is your DY that maybe you wish you wouldn't
have dy six one six, two four two ninety three,
ninety three. Feel like I'm listening very closely and writing
these down because I'm a big DIY er, But I'm
getting to the point where I'm like, no, no, I'll
just call someone.
Speaker 4 (10:43):
Yeah, I do it for a different reason.
Speaker 3 (10:44):
I do it just to save a buck or two,
I know, And then like I do, I don't mind
the feeling of getting the project done, but I large
percentage of the time, probably sixty percent of the time,
I get through them and I go, we just got
to call somebody.
Speaker 1 (10:59):
But you know what, I never look back on a
project and go, wow, I'm really glad I saved that
couple hundred bucks by doing it myself. I always look
back and I see all of the mistakes I made
and all of the things that I did wrong, and
I go, I wish I didn't.
Speaker 3 (11:15):
Have to look at those see and I look at
a different I look at it like kind of like golf,
like I'll have one good project, right, I'll have one
good hole right where I just put it in a
microwave or no, I put it in a door threshold
recently where it goes flawlessly. I did it correctly. Everything
was done to perfection. I'll never be able to duplicate
what I just did there.
Speaker 4 (11:36):
And go.
Speaker 3 (11:37):
I can save all kinds of money by doing just
all these projects myself.
Speaker 1 (11:41):
Yeah, I might not call somebody for for that, but
like plumbing.
Speaker 4 (11:48):
Tiling, but one time I'll get it right.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
Well, you can come to my house then and practice
Michigan's number one for New Country be ninety three. They
say hindsight is twenty twenty. I find that to be
absolutely true. When it comes to DIY projects at the house,
I feel like I I'm a.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
Big DIY person.
Speaker 1 (00:15):
Yeah, I feel like it's like a pride.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
And ego thing, or it used to be.
Speaker 1 (00:20):
I feel like now that I've been in my house
for seven eight years, I'm sort of letting go of
the of the DIY control a little bit and I'm like,
I'm just gonna call someone, Yeah, my time is worth it.
I need this to be done. I need it to
be done correctly. If I do it, all I'm going
to see are my mistakes. If someone else does it,
(00:40):
I'm gonna be like they did a really good job
with that.
Speaker 3 (00:44):
I uh, kind of the same. Mind's not like the
passion for DIY though. It's it's just to get a
good deal, and I feel like if I could do
it myself, it's usually cheaper. It's yeah, it's a skill,
like it's a skill I've learned. I feel Don't you
feel accomplished when you do it too, especially something you
never thought you could do.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
It's a feeling unlike anything else.
Speaker 4 (01:02):
Yeah, but they're usually what happened.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
I don't know if this happens to you, it sounds
like you accomplish a lot of yours. I get a
percentage of the way through and go all right, we're
just calling somebody.
Speaker 4 (01:14):
We're just calling somebody.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
I feel like my problem is that I love the demo. Yeah,
I love demo day and then like putting it all
back together. Like I just posted a picture of my
half bathroom that I've been working on for like four
and a half years. I'm like a little bit closer
and a little bit closer and a little bit closer,
but you know, we're still pushing.
Speaker 3 (01:35):
Yeah, there was a I just saw the picture. It
looks it looks good. It looks I like to sink
a lot.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
It's coming along.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
You and I have talked about this before. We just
got our closet done in our bedroom, and it took
like like a year and a half to get it
all together, and then we had to save the money
for it.
Speaker 4 (01:52):
But there was a period in there where I'm like.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
I could build a closet, right, I could do you
know what I mean, I've got I went to the
goat or the the home shows or whatever.
Speaker 4 (02:01):
I went to all these different closet plays. I'm like,
I could. I went to Ikea, I could build a closet.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
Oh the Ikea videos on TikTok of the people like,
here's how I reworked all these Ikea cabinets into this
beautiful built in situation. And I'm like, go to jail.
You're lying to people. You have so many tools. You're
not showing us. You took like a week off to
do this, Yes, you're not, like anyways, don't get me
(02:30):
started on that, because we'll go down a different rabit.
Speaker 3 (02:34):
But then I call somebody and it was done in
like I felt like three hours. The entire thing done perfectly,
every inch measured correctly. If you brought a level out,
it would all be level and correctly done. It was
the like, that's those are the reminders, right, Just let
somebody do it.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
Just spend the money.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
Just let somebody do it. It'll be worth it. My brother
in law, he gets of the Year for this in
my book.
Speaker 4 (03:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
But the amount of time, I mean, who knew that
this was gonna take this long? Was gonna be so
many steps I will share with you coming up the
project that he just took on. But I'm just wondering, like,
what is the project you wish you would have called
someone for.
Speaker 3 (03:21):
I feel like I could list a bunch because there's
I start them and I think I could do them,
and I'll tackle one and it'll work.
Speaker 4 (03:29):
Like I did the microwave.
Speaker 3 (03:31):
Put a microwave in, took I have one of those
hanging microwaves, took that one out myself, put that one
a new one in myself, and I went, I could
do anything. I can conquer the world. So then I'll
try to go, like paint the walls. I'm not paying walls.
Why am I painting walls. I'm terrible at paying. I
can't pay color.
Speaker 4 (03:47):
I like to paint.
Speaker 3 (03:48):
I didn't say I don't like to. I'm just I
can't do it. It's not my thing.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
My brother in law kids Dad of the Year for this.
He got my nieces and my nephew. There are three
of them. Tonal and my sister and my brother in
law got them. This epic play structure swing set.
Speaker 4 (04:07):
Oh those are nice and it.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
Is just the playset swingset of your dreams as a kid.
It's got a rock climbing wall, it's got a rope wall.
It has a like net bucket swing underneath it. This
thing as like a roof over it. I mean, this
thing is nicer than my house. You think I'm kidding,
but I am actually not.
Speaker 4 (04:28):
No, those are pricey too.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
And they ordered it online and when it arrived, I mean,
it was a lot of pieces right, and the company
that they ordered it from suggested like a someone in
the area to come and put it together, and scheduling conflict,
I don't know. The guy didn't show. So my brother
in law it was labor day weekend and he was like, no,
I'm doing this.
Speaker 4 (04:49):
You put together a playset himself.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
So he goes online and they have the instructions and
their video instructions, which I think is brilliant. Everything needs
video instructions, like walking you through step by step. This
especially needed it. This took more than twenty hours of labor.
It was more than one hundred and seventy steps to
(05:12):
put this swing set together.
Speaker 4 (05:14):
No thank you.
Speaker 1 (05:15):
And when it was done, I mean it took him
like two or three days to get this all done.
But he did it, and he did it all himself,
and it is beautiful. And he is dad of the
year in my eyes for that. But I just feel like,
and it's a little bit too soon still, But one
day I will ask him, like, Hey, do you wish
you would have called someone like, do you wish he
(05:37):
would have waited for the guy that the company recommended
and like tried a little bit one hundred and seventy
steps in twenty hours for this swing set?
Speaker 4 (05:44):
No, thank you?
Speaker 2 (05:45):
Was it worth it?
Speaker 4 (05:48):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (05:48):
I mean I guess at the end of the because
it's got it's a thing that's going to last for
years and years and years and years and bring joy
for years and years and years, and yow.
Speaker 4 (05:55):
Absolutely.
Speaker 3 (05:56):
I would wait a week or two to ask him
absolutely that question. Oh I'm going to wait, but I
bet he says, yes. I don't want to do. I
have no interest in it. We had the option of
buying one of those new and putting them together, or
going to Facebook marketplace and being like, we'll buy a
used one and we'll get it deliver or we'll we'll
find a way to get it delivered to our house.
Speaker 4 (06:17):
And no way I'm putting that together. Yeah, no way.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
It's the B ninety three Morning Show. I'm Ali Mack
and Mike my brother in law gets Dad of the Year.
He just built his kids an awesome swing set.
Speaker 4 (06:31):
Those are so hard to build.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
I had no idea. I mean, I don't have kids.
I haven't even thought about purchasing a swing set ever
in my life. Had no idea how any of this
process works.
Speaker 3 (06:45):
It is a great purchase because it's something you could use,
especially if they're younger for years. It's like a staple
and core memory and a childhood But they're expensive, brand
new and brand new. You have to put them together
peace by peace, and it is so hard.
Speaker 1 (07:02):
Yes, that's exactly what he did. Because when they bought
the swingset online, I can't remember what company it was.
I s I'll post a picture of the swing set
because it is noise. But it came with like subcontractor
information like, hey, here are the pros in your area
that we suggest to come and put the swing set together.
(07:24):
And of course, after you buy the swingset, then you
got to pay the people to put it together. And
then there was like some sort of scheduling conflict where
they like hired the guy to come put together this
swing set and he just like never showed, and my
brother in law was like, no, I'm not.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
I'm doing this.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
Labor Day weekend rolled around and he was like, this
is what I am doing. This will be done. So
he goes online to download the instructions for the swing set.
First of all, video instructions.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
Brilliant.
Speaker 4 (07:52):
That is a great idea.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
Why don't more things have video instructions, like step by
step video instructions. One hundred and seventy steps to put
this thing together?
Speaker 4 (08:03):
No, thank you.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
The twenty hours is what the estimation was on the
video steps from start to finish, and that was like
two or three people working on this. My brother in
law did it all himself. I was there for some
of it to just kind of like keep an eye
on the kids, so he wasn't like constantly bombarded.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
Daddy, can I do that?
Speaker 4 (08:23):
Daddy?
Speaker 5 (08:24):
Can I do that?
Speaker 4 (08:24):
Daddy?
Speaker 5 (08:25):
Can I help you?
Speaker 2 (08:25):
Can I help you?
Speaker 4 (08:26):
Can I help you?
Speaker 3 (08:26):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (08:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
One of the things I thought was funny was like
I offered to like unwrap things for him or like
hand him things or like whatever, and he was like, nope,
I'm doing it myself. Yeah, start to finish every single step.
Now it's a pride thing.
Speaker 3 (08:42):
Uh Uh, that's yeah, I'm not doing that. Not doing
you want to help, I would gladly take help.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
Like, looking back on it, now, hire somebody.
Speaker 3 (08:53):
Hi.
Speaker 6 (08:53):
My name is Tina and I am from Hating Tina.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
Did you build something or do you wish you would
have called someone?
Speaker 6 (09:00):
Well, we didn't build anything. My husband and I took
on this project of tearing out the tile in our
in ground swimming pool and then painting it. And oh,
my word, is that a job.
Speaker 1 (09:16):
You know what's crazy? Our boss just did that in
his pool. They had to paint it and retile it
and like do the whole thing. They've been working on
it for like the last couple of weeks.
Speaker 6 (09:25):
Yeah, this took us about probably six weeks total, just
between while we're older, so I was probably a little slower,
and then we had to buy certain tools to get
it done. And then the funniest part is I used
to have an in ground pool and I tried to.
Speaker 5 (09:40):
Share with my husband.
Speaker 6 (09:41):
You know, I think maybe you should get some sand
to put in the paint, just for.
Speaker 5 (09:45):
Grip, you know, and he's like, oh, we don't need that. Well,
I want to go down into the bottom of the
pool and there was some water in there, and he
went for a swim. He sends me a text, but
I think we should reconsider putting I'm stands in the
paint because I just went women.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
Funny, that's the thing with DIY is that the project
is just it's never the project. It's always like sixteen
other things that come up when you're in the middle
of it, and then it like it just snowballs.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
Amen, have a great DAYTENA, thanks for calling.
Speaker 6 (10:24):
Yeah you too, Bye bye, bye bye.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
What is your DY that maybe you wish you wouldn't
have dy six one six, two four two ninety three,
ninety three. Feel like I'm listening very closely and writing
these down because I'm a big DIY er, But I'm
getting to the point where I'm like, no, no, I'll
just call someone.
Speaker 4 (10:43):
Yeah, I do it for a different reason.
Speaker 3 (10:44):
I do it just to save a buck or two,
I know, And then like I do, I don't mind
the feeling of getting the project done, but I large
percentage of the time, probably sixty percent of the time,
I get through them and I go, we just got
to call somebody.
Speaker 1 (10:59):
But you know what, I never look back on a
project and go, wow, I'm really glad I saved that
couple hundred bucks by doing it myself. I always look
back and I see all of the mistakes I made
and all of the things that I did wrong, and
I go, I wish I didn't.
Speaker 3 (11:15):
Have to look at those see and I look at
a different I look at it like kind of like golf,
like I'll have one good project, right, I'll have one
good hole right where I just put it in a
microwave or no, I put it in a door threshold
recently where it goes flawlessly. I did it correctly. Everything
was done to perfection. I'll never be able to duplicate
what I just did there.
Speaker 4 (11:36):
And go.
Speaker 3 (11:37):
I can save all kinds of money by doing just
all these projects myself.
Speaker 1 (11:41):
Yeah, I might not call somebody for for that, but
like plumbing.
Speaker 4 (11:48):
Tiling, but one time I'll get it right.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
Well, you can come to my house then and practice
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