June 3, 2025 • 23 mins
In this riveting episode of The Bama Brown Experience, Bama and Puma dive deep into the extraordinary life of Willie T. Ribs—the first Black driver to qualify for the Indy 500 and the first to test a Formula One car. From his fearless days in the Trans-Am series to a near-miss NASCAR opportunity that changed racing history (hint: it involves Dale Earnhardt), Willie’s story is one of grit, talent, and trailblazing courage.
But that’s just the beginning, Bama and Puma also explore:
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But that’s just the beginning, Bama and Puma also explore:
- The emotional and hilarious tale of a friend who got catfished—and ended up married.
- The dark underbelly of online scams, from Facebook Marketplace frauds to postal delivery tricks.
- A chilling account of a Pentagon-level takedown of a scammer that feels straight out of a spy thriller.
- The strange world of celebrity stalkers and the quiet power of elite bodyguards who “make problems disappear.”
Like what you hear? Don’t forget to subscribe, leave a review, and share this episode with someone who loves racing, real talk, or just a damn good story.
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Well, hey, folks, Bama Brown and the Vama Brown experience
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Speaker 1 (00:33):
Puma wanted me to tell the Indy five hundred story.
The guy actually lives in Dripping Springs and his name
is Willie t Ribs. He was the first black Indy
car driver in the nineties. He had the Buick. He
was number five in the team and he didn't get
a good engine, but he qualified, but he never could
win because they gave him the worst engine out of
(00:56):
all for you know, all five guys racing the Buick
Visa six at the time. Anyway, Willie t through all
the years moved to Dripping Springs, Texas, and I knew
him because this car buff, you know. And he was
at the cafe one day and I saw him and
we're talking for a minute, and he told me, he said,
(01:17):
I don't know which he was an incredible trans am
driver in the Transam series, won that series. He was
he was unbelievable. Once again, this is back in the
eighties and nineties. But he turned around, he goes, well,
you know this guy, now, this is in the cafe
in Dripping Springs. It was Al Luncer Junior. Ho said,
I got to talk to Al Luncher Junior for you know,
fifteen minutes. This great guy, great conversation. Anyway, Willie t
(01:41):
Ribs and Al Junior do a podcast, so look that up.
Neither one of them. Just look up the podcast for them.
I don't know what it's called, but they talk about
racing and stuff in Indy Car. But he told me
a story. He said, I, you know, after Indy I
couldn't find a ride because I didn't he said, everybody,
you know, the word got out. I was scared. And
(02:01):
he said, wasn't scared, just didn't have the power, you know.
But he said, that's just how it goes, you know.
And back then you had some races, some things going
on too. But he said I had a ride in
NASCAR if I wanted it, and he goes, guy called
me and said I want to hire you to drive
my car in NASCAR. And he goes, man, you know,
I don't know that's that's a white man's sport. You know,
(02:23):
I said, southern white man's sport. And I'm not sure
how I'm going to fit in. And the guy goes, man,
you got it all wrong. There was a guy around
here for years, black guy, and now he was respected
because you're respected if you can drive a race car.
And it don't matter what color you are, what sex
yard by the way, nobody cares. And uh so he said,
I didn't even show up for the for the to
(02:45):
get the ride. And he said there was another driver
standing there and the guy goes, well, my guy didn't
show up. Are you available, And the guy goes, yeah,
it's dal Earnhardt. So he says, deal Earnhardt owes me
for his career. You know, he said, he he told
and they got to be friends, and he had told him.
You know, he said, man in the earners at home,
(03:06):
but you didn't show up. It weren't out good for me.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
So you know, really the more when you first you know,
because I had always heard the name, but when you
first started telling me, you know, some of the stories
of what he's done, I didn't realize, like, not only
the first black driver in Indy five hundred, he's the
first black driver to ever drive a Formula one car.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
Absolutely yeah, I mean he was.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
Formula one team like he like such a pioneer of speed.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
He he broke the racial barriers.
Speaker 3 (03:39):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
And he didn't back then there was no you know,
there was no woke anything. You had to earn your spot.
But that Transam series when they put him in that
transit was a Capri.
Speaker 3 (03:50):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
I mean the bodyshell was a Capri. But it was
a look that series up and how well he did, man,
he was fearless in that. And that's left and right turns.
I mean he was a road race expert. Ay and
uh and still uh. And his son is a skeet
shooter and his son uh is going to the Olympics
for skeat shooting. The son is one of the top
(04:12):
skeet shooters in the nation rank number and he also
is from Dripping s Franks. So we're kind of proud
of her her dripping celebrities.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
But in another life, I would have loved, like, instead
of growing up playing you know American you know, football, basketball, baseball,
I would have loved to have been like, uh, you know,
from some like Estonia or some Lotvia or somewhere where
Olympic sports were equally uh invested it because, like I would,
(04:39):
I would imagine just the like cross country scheme. Yeah,
like that where you're just you've got a gun on
your back, you're just skiing along, you shoot a couple
of targets, keep going like stuff like that sounds way
more fun than two a days in the in the fall,
you know football.
Speaker 1 (04:57):
This the quickest time you can and actually watch the
clock spin is the quickest time on record is at
the end of the first practice before the second practice.
You literally you sit down and then you're okay, let's go,
and you're like, oh, I just sat down too. Days
sons of bitches. I hated two days and I will
(05:20):
the rest of my life.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
I just didn't like them at all, all right, So
I thought you'd find this interesting. This is pretty cool
because I got a buddy of mine, he has over
one hundred trains, model trains, and he's telling me his
daughter came over and she inventoried the trains because he's
seventy eight and she's she's just being smart, you know.
(05:45):
And so I called this segment trains, planes and automobiles.
Our kids aren't going to want these. My daughter's not
gonna want that thirty six Ford and they say, okay,
there was a story about if you're a young person.
Now I'm saying forties all down, because everybody's you on
when you're sixty seven, but from fifties, forties, thirties, if
you're in your forties and thirties, then you want to
(06:06):
sell mom and dad shit when they're done, because it's
not anything you want their collections. They go, don't just
put it out in the driveway into a garage sale.
That's your first reaction they go. They go find someone
to specializes in that. Number One, Now with the Internet,
you can do your own inventor. You can take an
inventory and you can get some estimates about what stuff's worth.
(06:29):
Number Two, go to the collectible shows and talk to
people that are selling them, because that's that's who the
customer is. So if you've got movie posters, if you've
got BHS tapes, if you got you know, trains, cars, trains,
any of the baseball cards exactly, any of that kind
of stuff go to the collectible show and then they
(06:52):
go be smart, let a dealer handle it, because a
dealer will pay for themselves. And that's one of the things,
like comic books or magazine or anything anything that your
folks are collecting and they're sitting there talking about how
valuable it is. It's probably not worth nothing. Most of
this stuff is not worth anything. But like with these trains,
she's gonna find a collectible train guy, and that guy
(07:16):
is gonna know what those trains are worth, and he's
going to sell those trains to someone who wants them,
and he's going to take a commission. But it'll be
way more than you running it on marketplace. And think
of the I'm the number one scams throughout the world
come from marketplace. I would say there's more scammers on
marketplace than there are actual customers. But just because we
(07:39):
deal with that in old car stuff, you know, I
look at stuff. I saw Grillshell the other day and
I twenty nine Grillshell. The guys in California, he may
be the governor of California. Well, let's hope not, but anyway,
he could be like the most famous person California. I
didn't buy it, and I need it, but I went
I'm not paying that cause I don't know. I just
(08:00):
feel like I'd be throwing my money away because first
of all, PayPal won't guarantee nothing. Everybody goes, well, I
did that on PayPal, they'll back it. No, they won't.
Pay Pal will almost always side with the seller, so
they don't want to mess with it. So that's big
bullshit scam. And I'll argue with PayPal personally at any
time they want to get on here and say that's
(08:22):
not true. No, I know too many people that have
argued argued with them.
Speaker 3 (08:25):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (08:26):
And so another scam is going on. People will say, oh, well,
I'm gonna ship it with the post office. Now here's
what they do on this. This is and this got
me by the way. Uh, I came here what I
bought and it was one hundred dollars. They they sent
a small item to a different address in the town
(08:46):
that you live in, Okay, So it got delivered to
a post office box and sat in there until the
check cleared and until you didn't post, you know, you
didn't go on there and give them a one star
or they, you know, are complaining or report or anything else.
By the time you realize you've been scammed, the deal's
(09:10):
already gone through and nobody and they've already changed their
profile and moved on. They've ripped off enough people. Then
the post office goes, yeah, we show it delivered. And
I said, well, you showed it delivered to this box.
It's not my address. No, it was delivered and this
is the address, and I put it in that box.
You know, we're dripping springs, so we're a little town.
I know. The postal person she goes, no, I put
(09:31):
it in that box. It was a little bit. I said,
it's supposed to be a little big box. It's supposed
to be. She goes no. Anyway, she ain't going down
to the box because she's busy delivering the mail. And
it's the best scam in the world because you can't
report it it didn't get delivered. You're it's in this
kind of loss. So that's one of the scams you
need to watch, you know.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
And sometimes when I hear the lengths and extent that
people will go to scam scammers and just think about
thinking about all of the energy that it takes to
go into that scam from point A to point Z,
and then all of that energy you just spent, like
(10:10):
you could just be living a normal, productive life, like oh,
get a job exactly.
Speaker 1 (10:16):
It wouldn't be as hard and you probably make way
more money.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
You know, go quiet, quit in some in some office building,
and you're gonna work half as hard as you are
for the same amount of money.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
I'm gonna spend the rest of the show telling you
this story. My friend got catfished. If you don't know
what catfished is, that's when somebody scams you, a personal
scam when they're they're telling you how in love they
are with you and all that same. They really really
just go after widowers and widows that's and older people,
but uh, lonely people.
Speaker 3 (10:51):
You know.
Speaker 1 (10:51):
Well, my friend was a widower and he's in one
of those groups, you know. It goes on one of
those groups, widower groups. He meets this el and she's
just wonderful, she's just fantastic, and she uh, you know,
they go and they talk for like a month, and
then she said well, i'd like to come see you.
(11:12):
I want to come to Austin, and he but I
don't have the money. And that's when they get you,
because if you're desperate, you will help. You'll send some
money to help pay for their ticket. And of course
you send them the money. Well then something comes up.
They can't come, you know, and then they're trying, well,
I spent that money. Add something happened. I'd have a
(11:32):
you know whatever, be cous me of the old Vegas joke.
They wish you say, will you give me three hundred
dollars to get my mom in operation? And you go, well, sure,
but how do I know you won't gamble this? And well,
I got gambling money.
Speaker 3 (11:49):
Yeah, I've got that. I've got that.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
Personal letterman joke, and I love it. Anyway, So my
friend he sends them the money, he gets scammed. Uh
In then he realized is finally realizes that this is
this is bullshit, and so he starts researching it, and
sure enough he finds the person that's real, who's in Pennsylvania.
(12:12):
This woman was in New York. He gets a hold
of this woman in Pennsylvania and she had no idea.
Of course, she said they're using my profile. Yeah, your pictures,
your profile, everything, And she's just stunned, you know. And
uh so they start talking. He ends up marrying her.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
Oh well, at least that has a good ending here.
Speaker 1 (12:32):
Yeah, he said, I'd have spent one thousand dollars to meet,
you know, to meet this one. So he ended up
marrying her, and they're still married to this day, living Florida.
She is wonderful, half his age, by the way, but
she she loved, she loved He's a guy my best
friend went to high school with. Anyway, But what happened
to the woman New York? This is the best Now.
(12:54):
Unbeknownst to the New York lady, my friend and I
both have another friend who stepdaughter worked in the Pentagon
and was a top us security I'm talking about as
top as you can get, I mean, and she's worked
her whole life. I won't say any more about other
(13:15):
than let me tell you this said too much already,
yeah already. But she uh she so she found out
this happened to my friend, and she tracked the woman
down and got a hold of her.
Speaker 3 (13:29):
Oh that's spectacular, and she.
Speaker 1 (13:31):
Told me, she said, I told her, you don't know
who I am. But let me tell you, I know
everything about you. I know every move you're making, I
know what you're doing. And she said, I've already contacted
everybody you've been talking to. I mean she just jumped hacked.
You know, she can hack right into anything you had,
you know, and so she's hacked in. She goes, I've
reported you to everything. But she said, you went after
(13:54):
and got money from my uncle. And she said, so
let me say it to you this way, because I'm
not gonna come get you. I'm gonna let you wonder
when I'm gonna come get you. That's the last she said.
But let me tell you what I can do. I
can lock you in a room and throw away the room.
She could. Let me tell I'm not just making it.
(14:17):
She could literally she's that high up. Uh, she could
go to get Moo anytime she wanted and talk to
anybody she wanted. And uh, you know, the worst one
of those they've already moved out and having in another
country somewhere. There's no I was sitting there watching Biden
in one of those guys go, we're gonna release those
guys and give them they're not in getmo they're really badass.
(14:38):
Whens are in a whole nother country, in a hole somewhere.
They're never gonna see daylight now that they hadn't just Waterboardedonia.
And their proof is we hadn't had another attack, you know,
twenty five years, So I mean that's pretty good, pretty
good proof.
Speaker 2 (14:55):
Anyway, I'm imagining the cells of get MO. You're going
down the line like, oh, how'd you end up here? Well,
you know, I bombed a federal building. Oh how'd you
end up here? Well, you know, I attack some US
soldiers in uh in Syria, And then.
Speaker 3 (15:10):
Get to that later, like, how'd you get here?
Speaker 2 (15:12):
Well, I catfish a few people on the Greater nor
in the Greater Northeast region of the United States.
Speaker 1 (15:19):
No, but but unfortunately, nobody's ever gonna talk to her again.
She's gonna sit in a whole the rest of her life.
Buy Er. So anyway, she she scared this woman so bad.
The woman goes, I will send his money back to
you right now, and she said, no, no, no, keep it, No,
don't send any money to anybody, don't have any more contact.
But let me tell you, so, we're gonna watch you
(15:39):
the rest of your life, and when I catch you
doing this again, and I will, she said, And you've
got to know it's coming. I just want you to
know it's coming. Any won't She won't be able to
get a lawyer. He won't be able to, you know,
demand your equal rights. You will just be in a
shithole somewhere for the rest of your life where it's
(16:00):
just a dark place. You know.
Speaker 3 (16:03):
If that's not.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
Enough to change your to change your your actions, then yeah.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
And she told me, she said, I just wanted to
scare enough to make her quit doing it to people,
you know. And I said, but you could really do
She go, oh, yeah, I could do whatever I want.
Speaker 3 (16:18):
Yeah, that's all a Tuesday for me.
Speaker 1 (16:20):
Nobody's gonna put her picture up on a pole. We're
looking for this lady, you know, her line of people
walking through the grass looking for nobody's going to look
for this person. They're they're going to be gone wherever.
It was that that that made me just go, because
there's people out there. They have to do that too
at some point, they don't. You know, I knew a
(16:40):
guy that was a I shouldn't even be telling this shit,
but I actually know some of these movie people, and
and there's always the psychos that connect with the movie
screen and think that Sandra Bullock is in love with
him or something. You know. And by the way, all
that's bullshit on the internet too. None of these movie
(17:00):
stars or your your Facebook friend, that's all made up.
Speaker 2 (17:04):
Who was it that killed somebody because they thought that
uh oh it was a celebrity assassination and it was
they killed somebody because they thought not Jamie Lee Curtis,
but Jody.
Speaker 1 (17:20):
Jody Farley shot Yeah, yeah, he shot the president, Jody Fosser.
And it turns out she was a lesbian. Don't you
well he.
Speaker 2 (17:33):
Was due.
Speaker 1 (17:35):
You were never in the game.
Speaker 2 (17:36):
You shot that.
Speaker 3 (17:40):
Triangle?
Speaker 1 (17:42):
A little heads up, where do these.
Speaker 2 (17:48):
Psychos get the idea watching the movie.
Speaker 1 (17:53):
That joke about about Chapman. Chapman would have aimed a
little little laughing, got Yoko. He'd been a national hero.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
Probably would have held him in a different light these days.
Speaker 1 (18:05):
But Hinckley's out. They let him, They let him get out.
And uh a little known fact about Hinckley. His dad
was a was an oil guy that knew the bushes,
and and the day that he shot Reagan, the the
day he shot Reagan, his dad and one of the
(18:26):
Bushes were having dinner together or lunch together at the
very time. I mean that was you know, because.
Speaker 2 (18:33):
It's just an open up any conspiracy theories.
Speaker 1 (18:36):
Well and that guy and that guy, but I mean
he had no idea is kid was that nuts? You know?
And he uh he quit the oil business and went
around working for mental health, uh, raising money for mental health.
And he would start as he had seminars and and
had spoke to groups, and he would start out with
my son shot the president of the United States. I
(18:58):
mean that's how he would open up.
Speaker 2 (19:00):
Well, when you're doing public speaking like that, you lead
with a with a strong state. You can't get much
stronger than that.
Speaker 1 (19:07):
You all. But I just to this day, I'm sitting
there going, oh my god, Jodie Foster, you were never
you never had a shot. Dude, You're never in the game.
I can't even remember what we're talking about. Oh, I
was going to tell you this movie star deal. Well,
I got to meet one of the bodyguards that had
was a big time bodyguard at one point. He was
(19:27):
Tom Cruise's bodyguard for a long time. And I had
I sat and had a conversation with him and uh,
really super nice guy, but the kind of guy that
he didn't need a gun. I mean, he was well
trying to it. And I said, so what do you
do when you when you threaten them? And he goes, well,
(19:48):
you you they don't respond to threats. And I said, okay,
so what happens? I mean, can you charge them? I said,
I hear about these where they and he said, eventually,
you just have to take care of it. And I go,
what do you mean take care of it? And he goes,
what do you think?
Speaker 3 (20:03):
I mean?
Speaker 1 (20:04):
He said, eventually when someone is after someone like a
Tom Cruise or a and he said Tom Cruise had
all kinds of nuts after him. You know, I imagine,
But he said, and he can't really tell you anything
because he's signed all these deals. But he said, when
there's a celebrity, and he had done several, he said,
when they won't respond, because he said, I give them
one final talking to. It's like, dude, you need to
(20:29):
let this go. You need to stop and stop doing this.
You need to let this go. This is your last warning.
I don't know how else to tell you this, and
he goes, but you're doing this, you know, it's not.
He says, you're actually planning their demise right then. And
then he said, eventually they just have to go away.
And I was like, I couldn't even imagine. And he goes,
(20:52):
no one's going to look for him. No one's gonna
you know, there's not going to be a big you know,
the police aren't gonna the police don't want to know
about it. They just figured that's just something that will
embarrass them, that somebody got killed in their town while
there's supposed to be the believe. They don't want nothing
to do with it. And he said eventually that and
I go, so you just have to do it. He goes, yeah,
(21:14):
it's just you know, and he said, you're putting them
out of their misery. That's how in his mind, he said,
that's how I, in my mind justify it, you know,
before they kill someone that's innocent.
Speaker 3 (21:24):
Sure, it makes sense.
Speaker 2 (21:26):
It's uh, you know, it's very very cartel like the
normality of just like, look, I did what I had
to do.
Speaker 1 (21:35):
Yeah, there's no torture, he said, they just it's just
seeing over now. Let me say this while we're on here.
If you're listening, and there's thousands of you. Listen, don't
wound me. If you want to kill me, kill me,
and I don't want to be somewhere. I gotta lay
there and people gonna take care of me. Nobody's gonna
take care of me. I'm gonna be laying there, going well,
Jamie's gonna come up later and change my diaper. It
(21:56):
is not gonna happen. I'm just gonna be laying there,
you strapped to something because I can't. So kill me,
just make sure, yeah, make it quick, don't you know it? Uh?
But I always use this threat you try to kill me,
I'll tell you about war movies. I'll tell you about Carl.
(22:18):
I will bore you to death before you ever kill me.
I'll wait a minute while you're trying to figure out
how to do it. If you give me any time
at all, you'll be going. I don't want to know how.
I don't want to know about Hitler's gold Train.
Speaker 2 (22:34):
Behind the scenes, fun facts from American graffiti.
Speaker 1 (22:37):
Yeah no, please stop, please, I don't want to know
what happened to Familiar Air Hard. I don't want to
know your version. You know, I had a bunny of
that produced my show. What he was so funny, and
I said, I said, boy, you missed a good show
last night on the Discovery Channel. I said, just on
the air, and he goes, mister Bama, I got to
tell you I could care less about Amelia earn Hard.
(23:00):
It's gold train. And I said, okay, first of all,
it ain't Earnhart. That's a NASCAR driver. It's air Hard.
And I said, it wasn't a gold train, it was
that's Hitler. And you're mixing all egos. That's how close
I'm listening to, honestly.
Speaker 3 (23:12):
At least you're honest.
Speaker 1 (23:13):
Yeah, so that's that's a whole. That's probably a good
one to get out on there. But if you want
to know about Hitler's gold train, we may do that
one of these days because I know all about that,
so I got every details. Or one day we'll just
do JFK when we got ten hours of spare and
I'll give you the old JFK what really happened deal?
You know. So if you ever, if you ever want
(23:34):
to know about all that, you're listening to the Bama
Brown experience, Shame on you. It's all I can see.
Nobody to blame but yourself and Puma's like, don't even
mention my name anymore. Please thanks for listening.
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Speaker 1 (00:33):
Puma wanted me to tell the Indy five hundred story.
The guy actually lives in Dripping Springs and his name
is Willie t Ribs. He was the first black Indy
car driver in the nineties. He had the Buick. He
was number five in the team and he didn't get
a good engine, but he qualified, but he never could
win because they gave him the worst engine out of
(00:56):
all for you know, all five guys racing the Buick
Visa six at the time. Anyway, Willie t through all
the years moved to Dripping Springs, Texas, and I knew
him because this car buff, you know. And he was
at the cafe one day and I saw him and
we're talking for a minute, and he told me, he said,
(01:17):
I don't know which he was an incredible trans am
driver in the Transam series, won that series. He was
he was unbelievable. Once again, this is back in the
eighties and nineties. But he turned around, he goes, well,
you know this guy, now, this is in the cafe
in Dripping Springs. It was Al Luncer Junior. Ho said,
I got to talk to Al Luncher Junior for you know,
fifteen minutes. This great guy, great conversation. Anyway, Willie t
(01:41):
Ribs and Al Junior do a podcast, so look that up.
Neither one of them. Just look up the podcast for them.
I don't know what it's called, but they talk about
racing and stuff in Indy Car. But he told me
a story. He said, I, you know, after Indy I
couldn't find a ride because I didn't he said, everybody,
you know, the word got out. I was scared. And
(02:01):
he said, wasn't scared, just didn't have the power, you know.
But he said, that's just how it goes, you know.
And back then you had some races, some things going
on too. But he said I had a ride in
NASCAR if I wanted it, and he goes, guy called
me and said I want to hire you to drive
my car in NASCAR. And he goes, man, you know,
I don't know that's that's a white man's sport. You know,
(02:23):
I said, southern white man's sport. And I'm not sure
how I'm going to fit in. And the guy goes, man,
you got it all wrong. There was a guy around
here for years, black guy, and now he was respected
because you're respected if you can drive a race car.
And it don't matter what color you are, what sex
yard by the way, nobody cares. And uh so he said,
I didn't even show up for the for the to
(02:45):
get the ride. And he said there was another driver
standing there and the guy goes, well, my guy didn't
show up. Are you available, And the guy goes, yeah,
it's dal Earnhardt. So he says, deal Earnhardt owes me
for his career. You know, he said, he he told
and they got to be friends, and he had told him.
You know, he said, man in the earners at home,
(03:06):
but you didn't show up. It weren't out good for me.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
So you know, really the more when you first you know,
because I had always heard the name, but when you
first started telling me, you know, some of the stories
of what he's done, I didn't realize, like, not only
the first black driver in Indy five hundred, he's the
first black driver to ever drive a Formula one car.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
Absolutely yeah, I mean he was.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
Formula one team like he like such a pioneer of speed.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
He he broke the racial barriers.
Speaker 3 (03:39):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
And he didn't back then there was no you know,
there was no woke anything. You had to earn your spot.
But that Transam series when they put him in that
transit was a Capri.
Speaker 3 (03:50):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
I mean the bodyshell was a Capri. But it was
a look that series up and how well he did, man,
he was fearless in that. And that's left and right turns.
I mean he was a road race expert. Ay and
uh and still uh. And his son is a skeet
shooter and his son uh is going to the Olympics
for skeat shooting. The son is one of the top
(04:12):
skeet shooters in the nation rank number and he also
is from Dripping s Franks. So we're kind of proud
of her her dripping celebrities.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
But in another life, I would have loved, like, instead
of growing up playing you know American you know, football, basketball, baseball,
I would have loved to have been like, uh, you know,
from some like Estonia or some Lotvia or somewhere where
Olympic sports were equally uh invested it because, like I would,
(04:39):
I would imagine just the like cross country scheme. Yeah,
like that where you're just you've got a gun on
your back, you're just skiing along, you shoot a couple
of targets, keep going like stuff like that sounds way
more fun than two a days in the in the fall,
you know football.
Speaker 1 (04:57):
This the quickest time you can and actually watch the
clock spin is the quickest time on record is at
the end of the first practice before the second practice.
You literally you sit down and then you're okay, let's go,
and you're like, oh, I just sat down too. Days
sons of bitches. I hated two days and I will
(05:20):
the rest of my life.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
I just didn't like them at all, all right, So
I thought you'd find this interesting. This is pretty cool
because I got a buddy of mine, he has over
one hundred trains, model trains, and he's telling me his
daughter came over and she inventoried the trains because he's
seventy eight and she's she's just being smart, you know.
(05:45):
And so I called this segment trains, planes and automobiles.
Our kids aren't going to want these. My daughter's not
gonna want that thirty six Ford and they say, okay,
there was a story about if you're a young person.
Now I'm saying forties all down, because everybody's you on
when you're sixty seven, but from fifties, forties, thirties, if
you're in your forties and thirties, then you want to
(06:06):
sell mom and dad shit when they're done, because it's
not anything you want their collections. They go, don't just
put it out in the driveway into a garage sale.
That's your first reaction they go. They go find someone
to specializes in that. Number One, Now with the Internet,
you can do your own inventor. You can take an
inventory and you can get some estimates about what stuff's worth.
(06:29):
Number Two, go to the collectible shows and talk to
people that are selling them, because that's that's who the
customer is. So if you've got movie posters, if you've
got BHS tapes, if you got you know, trains, cars, trains,
any of the baseball cards exactly, any of that kind
of stuff go to the collectible show and then they
(06:52):
go be smart, let a dealer handle it, because a
dealer will pay for themselves. And that's one of the things,
like comic books or magazine or anything anything that your
folks are collecting and they're sitting there talking about how
valuable it is. It's probably not worth nothing. Most of
this stuff is not worth anything. But like with these trains,
she's gonna find a collectible train guy, and that guy
(07:16):
is gonna know what those trains are worth, and he's
going to sell those trains to someone who wants them,
and he's going to take a commission. But it'll be
way more than you running it on marketplace. And think
of the I'm the number one scams throughout the world
come from marketplace. I would say there's more scammers on
marketplace than there are actual customers. But just because we
(07:39):
deal with that in old car stuff, you know, I
look at stuff. I saw Grillshell the other day and
I twenty nine Grillshell. The guys in California, he may
be the governor of California. Well, let's hope not, but anyway,
he could be like the most famous person California. I
didn't buy it, and I need it, but I went
I'm not paying that cause I don't know. I just
(08:00):
feel like I'd be throwing my money away because first
of all, PayPal won't guarantee nothing. Everybody goes, well, I
did that on PayPal, they'll back it. No, they won't.
Pay Pal will almost always side with the seller, so
they don't want to mess with it. So that's big
bullshit scam. And I'll argue with PayPal personally at any
time they want to get on here and say that's
(08:22):
not true. No, I know too many people that have
argued argued with them.
Speaker 3 (08:25):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (08:26):
And so another scam is going on. People will say, oh, well,
I'm gonna ship it with the post office. Now here's
what they do on this. This is and this got
me by the way. Uh, I came here what I
bought and it was one hundred dollars. They they sent
a small item to a different address in the town
(08:46):
that you live in, Okay, So it got delivered to
a post office box and sat in there until the
check cleared and until you didn't post, you know, you
didn't go on there and give them a one star
or they, you know, are complaining or report or anything else.
By the time you realize you've been scammed, the deal's
(09:10):
already gone through and nobody and they've already changed their
profile and moved on. They've ripped off enough people. Then
the post office goes, yeah, we show it delivered. And
I said, well, you showed it delivered to this box.
It's not my address. No, it was delivered and this
is the address, and I put it in that box.
You know, we're dripping springs, so we're a little town.
I know. The postal person she goes, no, I put
(09:31):
it in that box. It was a little bit. I said,
it's supposed to be a little big box. It's supposed
to be. She goes no. Anyway, she ain't going down
to the box because she's busy delivering the mail. And
it's the best scam in the world because you can't
report it it didn't get delivered. You're it's in this
kind of loss. So that's one of the scams you
need to watch, you know.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
And sometimes when I hear the lengths and extent that
people will go to scam scammers and just think about
thinking about all of the energy that it takes to
go into that scam from point A to point Z,
and then all of that energy you just spent, like
(10:10):
you could just be living a normal, productive life, like oh,
get a job exactly.
Speaker 1 (10:16):
It wouldn't be as hard and you probably make way
more money.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
You know, go quiet, quit in some in some office building,
and you're gonna work half as hard as you are
for the same amount of money.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
I'm gonna spend the rest of the show telling you
this story. My friend got catfished. If you don't know
what catfished is, that's when somebody scams you, a personal
scam when they're they're telling you how in love they
are with you and all that same. They really really
just go after widowers and widows that's and older people,
but uh, lonely people.
Speaker 3 (10:51):
You know.
Speaker 1 (10:51):
Well, my friend was a widower and he's in one
of those groups, you know. It goes on one of
those groups, widower groups. He meets this el and she's
just wonderful, she's just fantastic, and she uh, you know,
they go and they talk for like a month, and
then she said well, i'd like to come see you.
(11:12):
I want to come to Austin, and he but I
don't have the money. And that's when they get you,
because if you're desperate, you will help. You'll send some
money to help pay for their ticket. And of course
you send them the money. Well then something comes up.
They can't come, you know, and then they're trying, well,
I spent that money. Add something happened. I'd have a
(11:32):
you know whatever, be cous me of the old Vegas joke.
They wish you say, will you give me three hundred
dollars to get my mom in operation? And you go, well, sure,
but how do I know you won't gamble this? And well,
I got gambling money.
Speaker 3 (11:49):
Yeah, I've got that. I've got that.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
Personal letterman joke, and I love it. Anyway, So my
friend he sends them the money, he gets scammed. Uh
In then he realized is finally realizes that this is
this is bullshit, and so he starts researching it, and
sure enough he finds the person that's real, who's in Pennsylvania.
(12:12):
This woman was in New York. He gets a hold
of this woman in Pennsylvania and she had no idea.
Of course, she said they're using my profile. Yeah, your pictures,
your profile, everything, And she's just stunned, you know. And
uh so they start talking. He ends up marrying her.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
Oh well, at least that has a good ending here.
Speaker 1 (12:32):
Yeah, he said, I'd have spent one thousand dollars to meet,
you know, to meet this one. So he ended up
marrying her, and they're still married to this day, living Florida.
She is wonderful, half his age, by the way, but
she she loved, she loved He's a guy my best
friend went to high school with. Anyway, But what happened
to the woman New York? This is the best Now.
(12:54):
Unbeknownst to the New York lady, my friend and I
both have another friend who stepdaughter worked in the Pentagon
and was a top us security I'm talking about as
top as you can get, I mean, and she's worked
her whole life. I won't say any more about other
(13:15):
than let me tell you this said too much already,
yeah already. But she uh she so she found out
this happened to my friend, and she tracked the woman
down and got a hold of her.
Speaker 3 (13:29):
Oh that's spectacular, and she.
Speaker 1 (13:31):
Told me, she said, I told her, you don't know
who I am. But let me tell you, I know
everything about you. I know every move you're making, I
know what you're doing. And she said, I've already contacted
everybody you've been talking to. I mean she just jumped hacked.
You know, she can hack right into anything you had,
you know, and so she's hacked in. She goes, I've
reported you to everything. But she said, you went after
(13:54):
and got money from my uncle. And she said, so
let me say it to you this way, because I'm
not gonna come get you. I'm gonna let you wonder
when I'm gonna come get you. That's the last she said.
But let me tell you what I can do. I
can lock you in a room and throw away the room.
She could. Let me tell I'm not just making it.
(14:17):
She could literally she's that high up. Uh, she could
go to get Moo anytime she wanted and talk to
anybody she wanted. And uh, you know, the worst one
of those they've already moved out and having in another
country somewhere. There's no I was sitting there watching Biden
in one of those guys go, we're gonna release those
guys and give them they're not in getmo they're really badass.
(14:38):
Whens are in a whole nother country, in a hole somewhere.
They're never gonna see daylight now that they hadn't just Waterboardedonia.
And their proof is we hadn't had another attack, you know,
twenty five years, So I mean that's pretty good, pretty
good proof.
Speaker 2 (14:55):
Anyway, I'm imagining the cells of get MO. You're going
down the line like, oh, how'd you end up here? Well,
you know, I bombed a federal building. Oh how'd you
end up here? Well, you know, I attack some US
soldiers in uh in Syria, And then.
Speaker 3 (15:10):
Get to that later, like, how'd you get here?
Speaker 2 (15:12):
Well, I catfish a few people on the Greater nor
in the Greater Northeast region of the United States.
Speaker 1 (15:19):
No, but but unfortunately, nobody's ever gonna talk to her again.
She's gonna sit in a whole the rest of her life.
Buy Er. So anyway, she she scared this woman so bad.
The woman goes, I will send his money back to
you right now, and she said, no, no, no, keep it, No,
don't send any money to anybody, don't have any more contact.
But let me tell you, so, we're gonna watch you
(15:39):
the rest of your life, and when I catch you
doing this again, and I will, she said, And you've
got to know it's coming. I just want you to
know it's coming. Any won't She won't be able to
get a lawyer. He won't be able to, you know,
demand your equal rights. You will just be in a
shithole somewhere for the rest of your life where it's
(16:00):
just a dark place. You know.
Speaker 3 (16:03):
If that's not.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
Enough to change your to change your your actions, then yeah.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
And she told me, she said, I just wanted to
scare enough to make her quit doing it to people,
you know. And I said, but you could really do
She go, oh, yeah, I could do whatever I want.
Speaker 3 (16:18):
Yeah, that's all a Tuesday for me.
Speaker 1 (16:20):
Nobody's gonna put her picture up on a pole. We're
looking for this lady, you know, her line of people
walking through the grass looking for nobody's going to look
for this person. They're they're going to be gone wherever.
It was that that that made me just go, because
there's people out there. They have to do that too
at some point, they don't. You know, I knew a
(16:40):
guy that was a I shouldn't even be telling this shit,
but I actually know some of these movie people, and
and there's always the psychos that connect with the movie
screen and think that Sandra Bullock is in love with
him or something. You know. And by the way, all
that's bullshit on the internet too. None of these movie
(17:00):
stars or your your Facebook friend, that's all made up.
Speaker 2 (17:04):
Who was it that killed somebody because they thought that
uh oh it was a celebrity assassination and it was
they killed somebody because they thought not Jamie Lee Curtis,
but Jody.
Speaker 1 (17:20):
Jody Farley shot Yeah, yeah, he shot the president, Jody Fosser.
And it turns out she was a lesbian. Don't you
well he.
Speaker 2 (17:33):
Was due.
Speaker 1 (17:35):
You were never in the game.
Speaker 2 (17:36):
You shot that.
Speaker 3 (17:40):
Triangle?
Speaker 1 (17:42):
A little heads up, where do these.
Speaker 2 (17:48):
Psychos get the idea watching the movie.
Speaker 1 (17:53):
That joke about about Chapman. Chapman would have aimed a
little little laughing, got Yoko. He'd been a national hero.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
Probably would have held him in a different light these days.
Speaker 1 (18:05):
But Hinckley's out. They let him, They let him get out.
And uh a little known fact about Hinckley. His dad
was a was an oil guy that knew the bushes,
and and the day that he shot Reagan, the the
day he shot Reagan, his dad and one of the
(18:26):
Bushes were having dinner together or lunch together at the
very time. I mean that was you know, because.
Speaker 2 (18:33):
It's just an open up any conspiracy theories.
Speaker 1 (18:36):
Well and that guy and that guy, but I mean
he had no idea is kid was that nuts? You know?
And he uh he quit the oil business and went
around working for mental health, uh, raising money for mental health.
And he would start as he had seminars and and
had spoke to groups, and he would start out with
my son shot the president of the United States. I
(18:58):
mean that's how he would open up.
Speaker 2 (19:00):
Well, when you're doing public speaking like that, you lead
with a with a strong state. You can't get much
stronger than that.
Speaker 1 (19:07):
You all. But I just to this day, I'm sitting
there going, oh my god, Jodie Foster, you were never
you never had a shot. Dude, You're never in the game.
I can't even remember what we're talking about. Oh, I
was going to tell you this movie star deal. Well,
I got to meet one of the bodyguards that had
was a big time bodyguard at one point. He was
(19:27):
Tom Cruise's bodyguard for a long time. And I had
I sat and had a conversation with him and uh,
really super nice guy, but the kind of guy that
he didn't need a gun. I mean, he was well
trying to it. And I said, so what do you
do when you when you threaten them? And he goes, well,
(19:48):
you you they don't respond to threats. And I said, okay,
so what happens? I mean, can you charge them? I said,
I hear about these where they and he said, eventually,
you just have to take care of it. And I go,
what do you mean take care of it? And he goes,
what do you think?
Speaker 3 (20:03):
I mean?
Speaker 1 (20:04):
He said, eventually when someone is after someone like a
Tom Cruise or a and he said Tom Cruise had
all kinds of nuts after him. You know, I imagine,
But he said, and he can't really tell you anything
because he's signed all these deals. But he said, when
there's a celebrity, and he had done several, he said,
when they won't respond, because he said, I give them
one final talking to. It's like, dude, you need to
(20:29):
let this go. You need to stop and stop doing this.
You need to let this go. This is your last warning.
I don't know how else to tell you this, and
he goes, but you're doing this, you know, it's not.
He says, you're actually planning their demise right then. And
then he said, eventually they just have to go away.
And I was like, I couldn't even imagine. And he goes,
(20:52):
no one's going to look for him. No one's gonna
you know, there's not going to be a big you know,
the police aren't gonna the police don't want to know
about it. They just figured that's just something that will
embarrass them, that somebody got killed in their town while
there's supposed to be the believe. They don't want nothing
to do with it. And he said eventually that and
I go, so you just have to do it. He goes, yeah,
(21:14):
it's just you know, and he said, you're putting them
out of their misery. That's how in his mind, he said,
that's how I, in my mind justify it, you know,
before they kill someone that's innocent.
Speaker 3 (21:24):
Sure, it makes sense.
Speaker 2 (21:26):
It's uh, you know, it's very very cartel like the
normality of just like, look, I did what I had
to do.
Speaker 1 (21:35):
Yeah, there's no torture, he said, they just it's just
seeing over now. Let me say this while we're on here.
If you're listening, and there's thousands of you. Listen, don't
wound me. If you want to kill me, kill me,
and I don't want to be somewhere. I gotta lay
there and people gonna take care of me. Nobody's gonna
take care of me. I'm gonna be laying there, going well,
Jamie's gonna come up later and change my diaper. It
(21:56):
is not gonna happen. I'm just gonna be laying there,
you strapped to something because I can't. So kill me,
just make sure, yeah, make it quick, don't you know it? Uh?
But I always use this threat you try to kill me,
I'll tell you about war movies. I'll tell you about Carl.
(22:18):
I will bore you to death before you ever kill me.
I'll wait a minute while you're trying to figure out
how to do it. If you give me any time
at all, you'll be going. I don't want to know how.
I don't want to know about Hitler's gold Train.
Speaker 2 (22:34):
Behind the scenes, fun facts from American graffiti.
Speaker 1 (22:37):
Yeah no, please stop, please, I don't want to know
what happened to Familiar Air Hard. I don't want to
know your version. You know, I had a bunny of
that produced my show. What he was so funny, and
I said, I said, boy, you missed a good show
last night on the Discovery Channel. I said, just on
the air, and he goes, mister Bama, I got to
tell you I could care less about Amelia earn Hard.
(23:00):
It's gold train. And I said, okay, first of all,
it ain't Earnhart. That's a NASCAR driver. It's air Hard.
And I said, it wasn't a gold train, it was
that's Hitler. And you're mixing all egos. That's how close
I'm listening to, honestly.
Speaker 3 (23:12):
At least you're honest.
Speaker 1 (23:13):
Yeah, so that's that's a whole. That's probably a good
one to get out on there. But if you want
to know about Hitler's gold train, we may do that
one of these days because I know all about that,
so I got every details. Or one day we'll just
do JFK when we got ten hours of spare and
I'll give you the old JFK what really happened deal?
You know. So if you ever, if you ever want
(23:34):
to know about all that, you're listening to the Bama
Brown experience, Shame on you. It's all I can see.
Nobody to blame but yourself and Puma's like, don't even
mention my name anymore. Please thanks for listening.
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