March 5, 2025 • 34 mins
Ne-Yo and J Cruz also have great conversations and this sit down is no different. Ne-Yo talks about R&B Thugs, the state of R&B, The motivation his Mom gave him, new music, how he was the plug at McDonald's + he tells a great Jay-Z & Beyonce story. Ne-Yo opens up at polyamory, his family life and how he talks to his kids about his lifestyle.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
That just gang yours. You gave him myself to the nation.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Hold baby the.
Speaker 1 (00:10):
Name, be strong, your sobey you are. Want to be
the best moneless and be the one acer always. Don't
worry about me. I'm five, Ma, don't hurry about him.
She got up me. That's why I love her. He's
(00:36):
Andrew so easy lady. Single a single just puts a
man of your head. And see you gotta be tell
me I said be longer. Love me for saying gotta
be off. No so such it's gonna ray.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
But baby can be made good. I made that just
for you. Nico glitzaid that for reality quality. Man, that's dope. Yeah,
what about it?
Speaker 3 (01:11):
Do you like?
Speaker 2 (01:12):
Right?
Speaker 3 (01:12):
Is?
Speaker 2 (01:12):
I know that's like a like a walk down memory lane,
memory lane for you, right? And definitely you know I
look back at the catalog, indeed, from from the past
on into the future. Yeah, yeah, man. And and then
the mix. The mix was dope for sure.
Speaker 3 (01:25):
And there's so many more hits though, bro, yeah, so
many more could have been could have been a lot longer.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
Work to hit part two. He only gave me a minute.
It's I was like, bro, I can't fit all these
You made it work. Made it work, man, Yo, show
Me is out now, you know, Neo show Me right,
crazy single? I love it right? But what else does
Neo need to see? Neil, You've seen it all man.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
You know what show me is, the metaphor of it
is I was I was complaining, you know, is recently
about the state of R and B and just the
stuff that I miss from R and B. You know,
everybody just got real tough all of a sudden in
R and B, and it has never made any sense
to me. An R and B thug has never made
sense to me. I'm sorry, I just don't. So I decided,
as opposed to complaining, I'm gonna just beat a change
(02:14):
I want to see.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
I'm gonna bring back the romance.
Speaker 3 (02:15):
I'm gonna bring back the sensuality of it as opposed
to the just just nastiness of it.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
It's one thing to be nasty, it's another thing to
be sensual. Sure, I'm trying to trying to bring that back.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
You know.
Speaker 3 (02:26):
It's one thing to just say it. It's another thing
to find a poetic and interesting way to say it.
Make us think, stimulate a mind as well as a body,
that's that's what I'm.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
Saying to now. Listen, you've gone viral on the show,
you know when you said, uh, you know with songs
of bitching and women dancing to it, and you know
it's kind of their fault too, you know what I
mean that you know it is what it is? Yeah, right,
what it is?
Speaker 3 (02:47):
Right?
Speaker 2 (02:47):
But yo, like yeah, like, there's a lot of music
out there that has just gotten very rawnchy, and it
is what it is, you feel me and love No,
doesn't really exist in a lot of music.
Speaker 3 (02:58):
That is the unfortunate true right now. And I'm trying
to be again, I'm trying to be the change I
want to see. You know, love is an energy, and
it's an energy, and energy can't be destroyed. You know,
it can be forgotten, but it can't be destroyed. I'm
trying to trying to remind people that that love is
one of the most powerful energies on the face of
this planet, and that it is important and it needs
to be incorporated in your everyday life, including your musical selection.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
Yeah right. And love is not just loving someone or something, right,
You have to love yourself first. At first. We're programmed
not to necessarily do that or wired. We're wired that way.
The sad place we live, right It's a sad place
we live right now.
Speaker 3 (03:35):
Everybody is is uh, this, this acceptance from strangers is
just a weird thing.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
You know.
Speaker 3 (03:41):
I have seven beautiful children, and yes, yes, man, My
oldest is fourteen. My youngest just turned two about three
days ago. And you know, it's just sad that they
have to grow up in a time where everything is
about clout and and and if you don't have this
many followers and all that, and it's like like nobody
is preaching about the importance of what it is to
love you first.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
Like I don't.
Speaker 3 (04:02):
I don't give a damn how many mind. I love
all my followers because they're real. I didn't buy them,
you know what I'm saying, They're real. But at the
same time, if nobody followed me, I follow me. And
that's the part, that's the part that needs to be
that's the part that we need to put the spotlight on.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
You know, love you first.
Speaker 3 (04:17):
You ain't gonna love nobody the right way, and nobody's
gonna love you the right way if you don't love
you first. That's what it is.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
Seven children, You love your babies. Indeed, do you see
talent there? Oh?
Speaker 3 (04:29):
Hell yeah, yeah, and listen, I was, I was totally
prepared to be Hollywood dad, and like you know, Joe
Jackson forced them into music.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
I was.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
I was prepared to be that dude. I don't have
to They have it, they do.
Speaker 3 (04:42):
Everybody has perfect pitch, everybody writes, everybody sings on their own.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
Oh yeah, all on their own.
Speaker 3 (04:49):
They sit at the breakfast table and make songs about
how they don't want to go to school and all
all they long to do.
Speaker 4 (04:54):
Yeah, they make a song good enough that they don't
want to go to school. Do you let them be?
Speaker 2 (04:57):
Like, like, that's dope, son, I finished the cheerios. Let's
get out of there. I'll take that. I'll take that.
Speaker 3 (05:07):
I like it. I like it.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
You're gonna sing, You're gonna be the best. Indeed, Now, yeah,
we kind of had that rule with Mike. I only
have two kids, right, I'm way behind you. But but yeah,
like yeah, with my kids, like, if it's funny, you're
not in trouble. But we all got to be laughing,
not just you. Indeed, you feel mean. I like that rule. Yeah,
so you can cuss at the house don't don't cuss
in for any teachers, right right, right right? Your kids
(05:29):
are singing, right do you help them or are you?
Are you writing with the don't.
Speaker 3 (05:33):
Have to like like I thought that I was gonna have,
you know, all right, all right son? You a little flat,
you a little sharp? No, they all have perfect They
sing better than I do, the better I had to
work to get mine.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
They just they just have it. I'm a little jealous
light way. You're not long stage? No, no, no, I
don't think anybody is ready for stage yet.
Speaker 3 (05:55):
But you know, I I like the fact that that
they gravitated to music on their own, because again, the
importance of just for one music for me was like
an outlet, you know what I mean. I grew up
in a house full of women. I'm becoming a young man,
and I ain't got nobody to bounce these emotions off
of us. So I started just doing stupid stuff like
you know, get in trouble and whatnot, and music, you know,
for lack of a better way to save it, to say,
(06:15):
it saved my life because without it, you know, if
my mom didn't hand me that pad and say write
it down, you know, I wouldn't be doing this, you know,
y'a'll be talking to me through some glass or something.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
Wrong lock company. Yeah, man, might would have been it
would have been another way. Yeah right. We we know
right as fans, what you've been through and what you've
gone through to get to this point. Right? Do your
kids know? Just do they know what it takes? The
apollo the groove? They are so low aware of every
radio station working at McDonald's. Man, man, they're they're aware
(06:52):
of it.
Speaker 3 (06:52):
But it's it's like, I mean, telling somebody about something
and experiencing, and it's two totally different things. You know,
none of my children will ever have to work in
me Donald's, you know. So I could tell him what
it was and they go, oh wow, that was cool.
Uh yeah, past the great pulpaond like they do.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
They don't, don't you in the way wants them to
work at McDonald's, So they understand. I wouldn't mind.
Speaker 3 (07:11):
But at the same time, I worked as hard as
I did so that my kids wouldn't have to suffer
the way that I did. You know what I mean,
mind you, I understand that you know, there's a there's
a slippery slope there because you don't want to raise,
you know, little helliens that don't appreciate nothing. But at
the same time, I'm not gonna I'm not gonna have
them suffer the way that I did.
Speaker 2 (07:28):
Man and McDonald's. Were you at the fries? Were you
at the burger? Actually got fired at the fries? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (07:34):
Man, well, I mean well I got fired and quit
at the same time. The dude yelled at me on
the fries, and I'm like, bro, listen, you ain't gonna
yell at me. Take this little name tag, take this
at him out. I worked there long enough to get
two pay checks. Yeah, my man, before I quit, did
you steal nuggets?
Speaker 2 (07:53):
I did. That's what Farrell used to do. Nuggets. If
any of my friends came, they got free for all. Yeah,
that was that was It was a thing.
Speaker 3 (08:01):
How you work at a fast rest runt your friends
can't get free for Come on, man, did you ever figure.
Speaker 5 (08:06):
Out what was wrong with the ice cream machines?
Speaker 1 (08:08):
No? Was it working?
Speaker 5 (08:10):
Then?
Speaker 2 (08:10):
You never touched the ice cream machine?
Speaker 1 (08:11):
And no, no.
Speaker 4 (08:15):
There.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
It's crazy.
Speaker 4 (08:18):
When it comes to writing. You mentioned that you know,
your mom put a notepad in front of you, and
you're she was just like write this down. Do you
still hold the value of writing things down or do
you now use voice notes or do you put things
on your phone.
Speaker 3 (08:30):
Now just for the sake of time and keeping things together?
Is you know, I lose stuff, you know, so I
write in my notes now. But there's definitely something to
be said about putting pen to pad like this.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
If I'm in the.
Speaker 3 (08:43):
Studio and I know that I'm gonna beat it for
a little while and ain't going nowhere, I'll get some
paper and independ.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
And do it that way. There's something to that though, right,
psychologically right, it's something.
Speaker 3 (08:51):
It's something I can't even explain what it is, but
it's it's this versus this. It's a lot from what
I understand writing it down gestures like we're not on.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
Radio, but yeah they can see okay, okay, cool.
Speaker 3 (09:02):
Cool writing it down versus doing it in the in
the phone. It's it's there's a there's an organicness that that.
I don't know, it just it just feels better.
Speaker 5 (09:10):
Well, some of people just punch in now, you know
what I mean.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
They don't even write. They just I tried that. Yeah,
I can't do that.
Speaker 3 (09:18):
No, not disrespecting anybody that does do that. I've actually
been in studio and saw people do that before and
just sat there amazed, like, Bro, you didn't even think
you just you just said said something.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
That's dope.
Speaker 3 (09:29):
I got to sit down and like really calculate what
I want to do. And I think that I think
that that's why my music comes out the way it does.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
That's right. Maybe blame it on public school. I don't know.
I'm thankful for public school.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
Me too.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
I went to public school. Turned out right, Yeah I didn't.
But we're here, We're here, my guy. Listen, Neil Manda, Man,
you give a really good hug. You walked in here
and we hugged it out and there was a tightness there,
and uh, it didn't didn't feel funny. It felt right.
It felt like two bros, like two men. You know
(10:05):
that that have gone on, you know that that have
come a long way. Indeed, gave each other a nice hug,
a nice embrace. There's nothing wrong with its, nothing wrong
with embracing your brother. Ain't nothing wrong, no, man, that
loving that hug. Thank you. Maybe I needed it, you
know what I mean. It's good, happy to be that
for you. But I appreciate that. Thank you very much.
You know, Coaches joined the show and he is geeked
out that you're here. I am geeked.
Speaker 5 (10:27):
Ain't know why because like you know, so, I'm Filipino
and Filipinos love Neo man. Filipinos love you, bro.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
I was. I was not aware. I appreciate it. You
the Philippines I have. Do you know what I have? Yeah?
They do love me. Wow. No, I know, it's bringing
it's bringing back.
Speaker 3 (10:45):
We just we was out there just uh just reason
like the end of the year, and I took a
picture with every single person in the airport and people
that worked there, the security that do like it might
have been bombs that got through there because.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
People were taking pictures.
Speaker 3 (10:59):
It was it was all work, all all works stopped. Yes, yes,
flights was missed, luggage was lost. I took pictures with everybody,
and it was it was. It was. It was a
really dope and it's like genuine love. It's not that
you know what I mean, It's it's like they really
can't like that's dope.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
That's dope. Yeah, shout out to shout out to the Philippines.
They're not taking pictures with you and then asking you
who are you? Yeah, that thing. No, they know who
you are. You're famous. Can I get a picture? What's
your name again?
Speaker 1 (11:27):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (11:27):
Yeah, I mean I take those pictures too, though, I do.
That's okay.
Speaker 4 (11:31):
Something that I do appreciate, like you said, is that
you took a picture with every single person and all
it takes is for fifteen seconds for a picture. If
that like, to make someone's day true, to make someone a.
Speaker 3 (11:42):
Three hour situation and that yeah, particular cations a million, Yeah,
but no, but I prod myss up on that. I've
never grasped the concept of an artist that would disrespect
the people who literally put you where you are, Like,
if not for your fans, who are you? These are
the people that buy the concert tickets, These are the
people that download the music, requesting music on the radio.
(12:04):
So why would you be Why would you Why would
you be mean to them? You know that that doesn't
make any They put you on the pedalstal you're on.
You're gonna look down on that.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
That's stupid. You're human. You're a good human, my man.
All How great is it running into specifically women right
that didn't give you the time of day back in
the day, and they see you now? How how great
is that?
Speaker 3 (12:25):
So? Uh, the last show we did was the last
show we did was here, But then before that, we
did a show in Vegas. And every time I perform
in Vegas, I kid you not, I run into at
least four girls that I went to high school with
that would not spit in my face if my eyebrowsers
on fire at that point in time. Every single time
we go back and yeah, it's it's definitely a yeah,
(12:47):
it's a beautiful experience. It is.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
It's beautiful situation. It feels like revenge. Almost nothing wrong
with that. You're not hurting anyone. Almost, it's definitely you're
not hurting anyone.
Speaker 3 (12:59):
I would get hurt. Front row tickets so that she
can see everything she missed, right up close. Right.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
That's when city boys up. We're here, Ladies and gentlemen,
we're here. What's up? Garcia? Oh yeah, sorry, sorry, show
it's up. Jack.
Speaker 4 (13:14):
You know you said three times in your career there's
songs that were one hundred percent ahead and everyone's like yes,
And one of those was so sick? What were the
other two?
Speaker 3 (13:24):
Uh? So sick was one because of you was one.
Marios let Me Love You was the other one. Where
everybody in the room was like, that's one. Yeah, it
doesn't it doesn't happen like that. Like, you know, I
have roughly four to five opinions that I respect, you know.
So these are the people that I do a song,
(13:46):
I run it by them, and you know what they say,
I take take the hit, take the heart. And normally
it's you know, three people like this one, two people
like this one, or four people like this, one person
like that one. Only those three times has it ever
been everybody like, yep, that's one. That's just the only time,
the only three times.
Speaker 4 (14:03):
That do you because you've like hit those like three
times already, do you constantly like just be like all right,
I'm gonna try like so hard, or you just wait
for it to come naturally.
Speaker 2 (14:14):
You gotta wait for it to come naturally. It's gotta
be magic.
Speaker 3 (14:17):
I can't even tell you why those it happened that
way those three times, you know, because in the first,
the first couple of times it happened, it's like, all right,
now I'm gonna try to write it in the similar
vein of this to see if that happens again, and
it never. It never does, so you kind of just
gotta do what feels good and you know, hope that
people agree. Have you ever written a pile of songs
(14:39):
for specific artists and they chose none of them? Yes,
oh yeah, yeah that that that happens, and you gotta
go home.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
With all these songs.
Speaker 3 (14:45):
Like but see, the thing can be used for something
like Okay, so for example, uh, make me better fabulous myself.
I wrote that originally for jay Z. Yeah, that that
that track would shout out to simular and did the track.
That was my first time going to the studio with
jay Z and also my first time seeing jay Z
and Beyonce, you know, out of the public eye, you know.
(15:07):
So I'm sitting there with the track and I'm supposed
to be writing the hook for j and like Jay
and b are over in the corner just kind of
in their own world, hugged up, you know what I'm saying,
Like no one else exists.
Speaker 2 (15:17):
So I'm like, all right, this was early on. Yeah yeah,
it's like kind of puppy love.
Speaker 3 (15:22):
So I'm like, all right, Jay is clearly a movement
by itself, but them together is like a force. Like
I'm a movement by myself, but I'm a force when
we're together. Maybe I'm good a by myself, but you
you make me okay?
Speaker 2 (15:40):
I wrote it, killed that man. I wrote it. I
played it for him.
Speaker 3 (15:43):
He loved it that night, but then like two days
later heard me and said, this kind of feels more
like an R and B record, So I want you
to have it.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
So he gave it to me, and I'm like, all right, cool.
Speaker 3 (15:51):
So I wrote versus to it in the whole nine uh,
And it's sat in the archives for a few months,
like just because what I wound up doing it kind
of didn't match the format. So again, you know situation
where everything can be used for something. I'm just randomly
in the studio playing stuff for fab.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
I play that. He's like, bro, what are you doing
with that? I'm like, well, nothing, to be honest, let
me get that all right?
Speaker 4 (16:11):
Cool?
Speaker 3 (16:12):
He took it, wrote his verses to it, and it
became the one that everybody knows now. But initially it
was supposed to be for j you know. So it
just because the person you wrote it for it doesn't
want it doesn't mean it's you scrap it. It just
means you you you know, you reformat it and do
something else with it. Yeah, I love how jay Z
gave you a song you wrote. That's great, fucking jay
(16:34):
Z man. Well, I bro, he gave he gave me
the track because the Timberland track that would have would
have cost me hundreds of thousands of dollars and he
gave it to me.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
Okay, you know with Tim's blessing of course, of course,
of course, and of course your three Grammys not one speech?
Not one? How does that happen? Not one?
Speaker 6 (16:52):
Uh?
Speaker 3 (16:53):
My first time going to the Grammys is when I
learned that there are categories that are not televised. You know,
you watch the Grammys on TV, and you feel like
the ones that that they that they show on TV
are just are those are the ones? But it's like, no,
there's there's there's hundreds of them that and a lot
of them aren't televised. So I've won three times in
categories that were never televised.
Speaker 2 (17:12):
Yeah, that's crazy.
Speaker 3 (17:13):
Yeah, I mean it is, but it's it's like it's
like it's it's a bittersweet because it's still a Grammy.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
You know, category. What was it?
Speaker 3 (17:21):
What was it?
Speaker 5 (17:22):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (17:24):
Crap, I can't I can't think of it right off
the top of my hair right now. Back in the day,
categories used to be crazy too, Like I remember the
American Music Awards had like Best Black Single, Like, hey, y'all, yeah,
I remember that. What are we doing? I remember that? Yeah, yeah,
we've We've gotten a little. Actually that we haven't. I'm
(17:44):
about to give us credit that we do not desire.
They just worried it different now. But we know what
they mean. We know what they mean. It's all good.
But three Grammys is man, we'ren't accomplishment.
Speaker 3 (17:54):
Man, I don't. I don't you know, it is what
it is. I know that this just means I got
more work to do, you know. I gotta the category
that they put on TV yo.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
And when you do, get that grabb me where you
get to walk across that stage. Man, that speech. They
better not turn on the music on.
Speaker 3 (18:08):
I wish they would. I'd be done to hit somebody
with the gred turn it off. As I was saying, mom, mom,
and god, mom and god it. Yeah, I'm here to
do four Grammy speeches. Everybody, get comfortable.
Speaker 4 (18:24):
How many songs do you would you say if you
had to put a number on it? Have we not
heard and probably will never hearesh?
Speaker 2 (18:33):
Yeah, that's that's a large number. So lot.
Speaker 3 (18:36):
If you've heard a million, there's eight million, you haven't
easily easily yeah yeah. And then it's like bits and
pieces of songs like like like a line from this
song didn't work in this song, so I took it and.
Speaker 2 (18:48):
Put it in that song. Anymore type situation, you know, like.
Speaker 3 (18:51):
Again if if the world has never heard of it's
brand new, you know, so this all right, this, this
didn't work this way, so can you reformat? You You
switch it around like puzzle pieces and put it somewhere
else and it works over here and work over there,
like yeah, that's what That's basically how it goes.
Speaker 5 (19:05):
You have songs in the archive, like you know, very
old songs that you re used for like I guess future.
Speaker 3 (19:11):
Yeah, absolutely, Again, a bar is a bar. Just because
the bar didn't work for that one, don't mean it
don't work.
Speaker 2 (19:18):
It just didn't work for that one.
Speaker 3 (19:19):
So you take the same bar, you put it somewhere
else and it works.
Speaker 2 (19:22):
Man. Yo, it was your MTV cribs real No no, no,
it was not no. Yeah, that wasn't my house. That
was my manager's house at the time.
Speaker 3 (19:34):
Wow, Because I was on the road, and I hadn't
purchased the house yet, right right, So we used his crib.
Speaker 6 (19:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (19:41):
I come to find out that a lot of them
MTV cribs wasn't real. Yeah, of the MTV cribs weren't
not real.
Speaker 2 (19:47):
Everything childhood Yeah yeah, Yo, it's cousin's sleeping on the floor.
That's real ship right there, that's it's crazy. Man. I
can do it now, I mean the show. Oh no,
we can do it now. Yeah, we can definitely pick
a house. Yeah, you still got a house in Vegas.
I do not no, no, no, no no.
Speaker 3 (20:09):
Now, I'm in Atlanta. I got a little spot in
l A. And uh, I got a couple, a couple
of condos in Atlanta.
Speaker 2 (20:15):
Actually I had a boy. But Vegas is near and deer, right,
I mean that's that's where I first met you. You
were first getting your start. Indeed, you would come to
the radio station and hang out. Yea, and yeah, I
know that the you know, seven oh two means a
lot to you. Still absolutely went to high school there.
Seven o two made me who I am, you know,
as an entertainer. My first taste of the stage, I
(20:36):
was an understudy for a show on a strip called
EFX that it was David Cassidy was the start of
the show. And uh, the guy that I was understudying
for his wife got pregnant, so he was gone that
whole summer. So it was just me on stage every
night doing this this this big show of the MGM
Grand And yeah, that's that's kind of where I got
my show legs at ye. Man, that's crazy, that's great.
(20:58):
And look at it now, man, so many, so many projects,
so many songs written for other artists. D what a career.
Speaker 3 (21:06):
I've been blessed. Man, I've been blessed. I have zero
complaint the good things that happened, to bad things. This happened,
you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (21:12):
I don't.
Speaker 3 (21:13):
I live with no regrets because even the bad stuff
that happened led me to.
Speaker 2 (21:16):
Hear you know what I mean? And I am. I
can honestly say I'm happier now than I have ever
been in life. Like things are really really good. And
it sounds and it looks like you're making a lot
of happy decisions, indeed, decisions that make you happy.
Speaker 3 (21:28):
And that's the important part. I'm not living this life
for nobody but myself and maybe my kids that's it.
Speaker 2 (21:34):
But you but you have in the past, we all have.
I mean, of course I am right, like you know,
we're wired as as as kids are, right because of
what we see. All Right, You're supposed to grow up,
get a job, be successful, one wife, have children, pick
a fence house. That's what a man should do, right
and crazy for everybody.
Speaker 3 (21:55):
You never question it, right, you go, this is what
is This is how supposed to happen.
Speaker 2 (21:59):
This is what it's supposed to be. No one ever goes, well,
why why is it supposed to be that? Why does
it have to be that? Well, because it does. That's
just what it's that's just well, it says who says
the world?
Speaker 3 (22:11):
Oh okay, So my living is for me or my
living is for the world, right, because if I can't
pay my bills, the world ain't gonna pay them.
Speaker 2 (22:17):
Right.
Speaker 3 (22:18):
If I'm depressed, the world ain't gonna cheer me up
like I got it. So I've got to start making
some decisions that makes sense for me. And that's what
I started doing.
Speaker 2 (22:25):
Yeah. And if you have desires as a man, right, uh,
and you fulfill those desires behind people's backs. Now you're
hurting people true when all you have to do is
make yourself happy first, to be honest? Is that what
it is? Honesty? Honesty?
Speaker 3 (22:39):
I know that's that's a beautiful segue. I like what
you're doing there, lovely transition. Sure, No, you know what
what I what I've realized now is that there was
a lot of a lot of time, a lot of energy,
a lot of money wasted on just being dishonest, when
in actuality, I could have kept a rail from the
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jump and save myself a lot of headache, a lot
of heartache, just a lot of I gotta go back
to money.
Speaker 2 (23:06):
It's so much money, God, so much money.
Speaker 3 (23:09):
But yeah, man, I've I decided after my divorce that
I wasn't gonna lie to anybody anymore, and it including favor,
including myself. Be honest with myself, be honest with the
people around me, and you know, let the chips forward,
they will, And I can, honestly, I can genuinely say
that honesty is the best policy. Let her choose, let
her decide. You never know, you know what I'm saying.
(23:30):
She might be with it and she might not. But
either way, you slice it if you lie and she
catches you because she's gonna catch you, fellas, I don't
care how smooth you think you are, don't care how
player you think you are. She's gonna catch you. Okay,
you're gonna fall asleep and she's gonna get in your phone.
Are you gonna forget the lie you told? Are you
the apple tea is? It's something? She gonna catch you? Bruh,
(23:53):
She's gonna catch you. You're better off just keeping it
the buck and letting the ones that rock the way
you rock gravitate to you. It's easier, it's easy.
Speaker 2 (24:02):
Well, are you poligical?
Speaker 3 (24:05):
It's not polygamy, right, it's poly polygamy, polyamory, polyamory.
Speaker 2 (24:10):
Yes, basically it's all of that, right yeah, yeah yeah,
m hmm, Jack, it could never be you. Huh.
Speaker 4 (24:16):
I'm not saying it could never.
Speaker 2 (24:17):
I just that's not they're engaged. Congratulations.
Speaker 3 (24:22):
Listen, don't don't don't think that I'm saying that monogamy
don't work. Monogamy didn't work for me for you, sure
that I know people that have been married for years happily.
It's it's definitely a real thing. I just it just
did personally didn't work for me. Polyamorous relationships work for me.
Speaker 2 (24:41):
Don't don't.
Speaker 3 (24:41):
Don't go and ask your girlfriend for a girlfriend to
say what Nel said, don't do that.
Speaker 2 (24:46):
I'm gonna say my wife, can you talk to her
for me? Absolutely, babe, you're on with Neil. I'm kidding.
Just the other day and I was like, hey, like,
have you ever heard story Time?
Speaker 5 (24:58):
And she was like, no, what's that?
Speaker 2 (25:00):
Wow? Let me just play it?
Speaker 5 (25:01):
And then so she's getting ready in one night it's
bumping on my speakers and she was like.
Speaker 2 (25:05):
Yo, this song is nut. What Storytime a cry or
like a cry out? Were you trying to get out
of a box?
Speaker 3 (25:13):
No? Storytime was a real situation that happened, And I actually, yeah,
I actually got caught behind that situation.
Speaker 2 (25:20):
Yeah yeah, because I introduced it and she.
Speaker 3 (25:23):
Was like, well maybe, And I'm like, oh cool, So
I just call her now. She was like caller, Oh damn,
how did you get her number?
Speaker 1 (25:35):
She was.
Speaker 2 (25:37):
She would be down with someone you guys met together,
not someone you were meeting behind her back.
Speaker 5 (25:43):
Also in real life, she was down to bring in
another guy.
Speaker 3 (25:47):
She know what. She wasn't down to bringing another guyte
she said, she said, all right, well you so you
so gung ho about another girl. What if I said
I wanted another dude, and I'm like, hell no, absolutely not, no, thank.
Speaker 2 (26:01):
You, very selfish of you. Man is good.
Speaker 3 (26:05):
The other side, well, here's here's the reality of it.
I do partnership, not ownership. You're not my property. I
don't even want I don't even want to own you.
I want a partner in this situation. I don't demand exclusivity.
I don't ask for it, nothing like that. If you
offer it and I accept, there are rules to follow.
Now on the same side of that, nothing is above
(26:27):
a conversation as long as we're being honest.
Speaker 2 (26:30):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (26:30):
Nothing is above a conversation. But again, if you did,
if you offer exclusivity meaning just me and only me,
and I say, I you sure you understand that your
exclusivity to me doesn't mean exclusivity to you. This is
a decision that you're making on your own. If you
make that decision, and I say, all right, cool, cool,
Well here's the rules. Here's the rules that I need
you to follow. And if you're cool with that, then
(26:52):
we rock. If you're not, we don't and no love loss.
You go your way, I go mine, and it's all good.
Speaker 2 (26:56):
Sounds like a partnership that works, reached out to you
with support in this judgmental space. You know what's crazy.
It's one of those situations where men reach out in secret.
Speaker 6 (27:12):
Yeah, honey, I would never a bro congratulations. Yeah, I
would never do that, babe. Just me and you, babe, Bro,
you living life? Yeah, yeah, no, No, it's a lot
of that. It's a lot of which I honestand you
know I saying I to be completely honest. I'm not
tripping either way. If you with it, cool, if you're
not with it cool, like I'm again because I'm not
doing it for y'all. I'm doing it for me.
Speaker 3 (27:34):
You know, you wouldn't even have known had had Shade
Room not picked up on a post from one of
the girls, like I don't. I wasn't posting initially, like
because again, it's not life, y'all.
Speaker 1 (27:44):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (27:44):
But you know it is what it is, and now
here we are bringing it. Yeah, yeah, great, I don't mind.
I don't mind.
Speaker 3 (27:50):
We can talk about it because because again I have
nothing to hide, because I don't feel like I'm doing
nothing wrong.
Speaker 2 (27:53):
Yeah, just being in.
Speaker 4 (27:55):
Multiple partnerships now, I guess give you more, not ammo.
But like does it help more with writing songs?
Speaker 3 (28:05):
Well, yeah, yeah, I can't write about life a fan
living it absolutely and it allows me to write from
different perspectives.
Speaker 2 (28:13):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (28:14):
It's it's there's there's the monogamous perspective, there's a polyamorous perspective.
There's a perspective of the woman who is curious but
you know, can't get over her jealousy. Mind you, we
talk about all of that. Like, the only way this
works is if everything is laid out on the table.
You know, there's there's four women, right, It's four individuals,
four different personalities, four different outlooks out of you know
(28:35):
what I mean.
Speaker 4 (28:36):
Yeah, because it's also an experience for people too who
maybe are curious about it and just want to know
about it, and they learn that through your music.
Speaker 3 (28:45):
Indeed, see people get caught up on the sexual element
of it. It's more than if the only reason you're
doing it is for the sexual part of it, You're
you're bound to fail. Well, that's that's an orgy, that's swinging,
that's there's there's something, it's something something totally different. This
is community.
Speaker 2 (28:59):
This is a tea.
Speaker 3 (29:00):
We are we are partners in this situation. You know,
four women, five people including me, five different incomes. You
know what I'm saying. I have seven children, but they
help with the kids. My mom knows everybody, loves everybody,
My sister knows everybody. The baby mamaus have met him.
Like it's like it's a community thing.
Speaker 2 (29:17):
You know.
Speaker 3 (29:17):
It's more than just uh an orgy every night. You know,
it happens, but it's not the focal point.
Speaker 2 (29:24):
It's not. I'm over here trying to make it sound
as normal as possible.
Speaker 4 (29:32):
With the village aspect, you know, like you're it takes
a village.
Speaker 3 (29:36):
It definitely, especially with seven and me being busy as
I am, I'm rarely home. I can keep that real,
you know. And my kids, you know, thank God bless
my kids for them being understanding. You know, if you
want your Roebucks and your v Bucks and you and them,
Jordan's daddy gotta go to work, and why daddys at work?
You know, Uh, this was gonna cook your dinner, and
(29:57):
this is gonna make breakfast, and it's gonna get you
ready for school.
Speaker 2 (30:00):
And you know, is it confusing for your kids?
Speaker 3 (30:02):
No, no, because there's conversation right now. Kids understand what
you explain, understand what you explain. If if I make
it confusing, then it's confusing.
Speaker 2 (30:12):
Well you have we have more than one girlfriend? Yeah, yeah,
how very simple, son. I mean, yeah, I explained it.
Then they get it. They understand that's right, Neil.
Speaker 4 (30:24):
That also just shows to you as a father how
open your kids are to accepting that too.
Speaker 2 (30:29):
I mean, they're so understanding of my kids.
Speaker 3 (30:32):
Understand that my kids understand that they are loved, that
they are loved, that they are caring for, and that
is what matters at the end of the day, no
matter how you you know what I'm saying, I've I've
embraced you know, Moneta Shop for example, her her new
husband Keith, who I love. I almost love him more
than her. He's a great, great guy and I've completely
embraced him. And it's it's again, it's what you explain
(30:54):
to the kids in the way that you explain it
and accept it as long as it's love.
Speaker 2 (30:58):
At the end of the day, how you get there
doesn't man. And they see love, Ye show them love,
and that's it. That's understand that it's love of course,
yeah there man. Absolutely, you get to the point where
(31:19):
exactly and then you can spread that around. Yeah, it's
a it's a contagious energy. Yeah man. And one thing
I believe is like, your children have to see you happy.
I don't think I ever saw my parents truly happy,
right because of how we grew up. Right, But like
my kids have to see their parents happy. It's extremely important. Definitely,
(31:39):
it's not fake happy. It's got to be genuinely happy.
Speaker 3 (31:41):
Because they could tell the kids. Kids are not stupid
what you say versus what's what's really going on? Like
the way you put it, like they can feel it,
you know, daddy, Daddy says he's happy. But okay, that's
why daddy walking around with his shoulders up in his
head down all the time because he's happy.
Speaker 2 (31:57):
No, they understand what's going on. I want to get
it quick. What's the internet's obsession with Beyonce not performing Irreplaceable?
Speaker 3 (32:04):
I have no idea what is that? I have zero,
zero concern. Like I mean, if the song is what
it is, it's done what it's done, and yeah, a
monster and there always will be whether she performs it
or not.
Speaker 2 (32:15):
Uh, I don't know.
Speaker 3 (32:17):
I mean Beyonce has a ridiculous catalog, and if she
chooses not to sing that song, that's that's her pariorative.
Speaker 2 (32:22):
It's all good.
Speaker 3 (32:24):
The Internet always wants something to be beef. I don't
have time to beef. I have four girlfriends and seven kids.
I don't have time to beef anyway, zero time. I'm sorry, Beyonce,
love you to death.
Speaker 2 (32:35):
Come on, man, is what it is. We're good.
Speaker 3 (32:37):
We're good.
Speaker 2 (32:37):
I'm good. I'll stop just because you'all mad. Stop trying
to make everybody else mad. I'm not mad for the
internet to look in the mirror, you know what I mean? Like,
come on, man.
Speaker 5 (32:48):
Something I found on the internet was actually, uh, you're
super into moy Thai?
Speaker 3 (32:53):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (32:53):
Man, how did you get into that?
Speaker 5 (32:55):
Who?
Speaker 3 (32:57):
A friend of mine? It was boxing first. I started
doing boxing training and we happened to be in Tiland.
He was like, bro, you want a real workout.
Speaker 2 (33:05):
Come with me.
Speaker 3 (33:05):
So we went to the We went to the place,
and uh yeah, I died like times, like four separate deaths,
came back to life, died again like four different times.
It was insane that I and mind you those so
you know, I don't I don't know how to say this.
What iout was sounded crazy, but like the guys are
like really small but strong as hell, like a dude
(33:29):
not not even half your size, will kick you through
that wall like nuts, how strong they are.
Speaker 2 (33:34):
It's crazy, King, I get it. I get it.
Speaker 3 (33:40):
It's I mean, mind you from the spiritual element of it.
And and you know that the warriors spar and all that.
That's but above that, I do not think that you
can get in there and just throw kick with the dudes. Man, No,
you will die bro like oh yeah, oh yeah yeah.
The strongest when they're was a girl. Not the girls
(34:01):
can't be shown. But like the hardest kick I experienced
came from the smallest woman in the place.
Speaker 2 (34:06):
Wow, it was nothing. A little bit, a little bit,
a little bit, a little bit, YO, show me quality
R and B music. Nichil, thank you very much for
your time and then appreciate the love your honesty always
Neil Man, It's always appreciated.
Speaker 3 (34:19):
Man.
Speaker 2 (34:20):
Ud you to Lamar chilling with my boy Cruise the
Cruise Show. You did what I'm talking about The Cruise
Show on Real ninety two to three,
That just gang yours. You gave him myself to the nation.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Hold baby the.
Speaker 1 (00:10):
Name, be strong, your sobey you are. Want to be
the best moneless and be the one acer always. Don't
worry about me. I'm five, Ma, don't hurry about him.
She got up me. That's why I love her. He's
(00:36):
Andrew so easy lady. Single a single just puts a
man of your head. And see you gotta be tell
me I said be longer. Love me for saying gotta
be off. No so such it's gonna ray.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
But baby can be made good. I made that just
for you. Nico glitzaid that for reality quality. Man, that's dope. Yeah,
what about it?
Speaker 3 (01:11):
Do you like?
Speaker 2 (01:12):
Right?
Speaker 3 (01:12):
Is?
Speaker 2 (01:12):
I know that's like a like a walk down memory lane,
memory lane for you, right? And definitely you know I
look back at the catalog, indeed, from from the past
on into the future. Yeah, yeah, man. And and then
the mix. The mix was dope for sure.
Speaker 3 (01:25):
And there's so many more hits though, bro, yeah, so
many more could have been could have been a lot longer.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
Work to hit part two. He only gave me a minute.
It's I was like, bro, I can't fit all these
You made it work. Made it work, man, Yo, show
Me is out now, you know, Neo show Me right,
crazy single? I love it right? But what else does
Neo need to see? Neil, You've seen it all man.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
You know what show me is, the metaphor of it
is I was I was complaining, you know, is recently
about the state of R and B and just the
stuff that I miss from R and B. You know,
everybody just got real tough all of a sudden in
R and B, and it has never made any sense
to me. An R and B thug has never made
sense to me. I'm sorry, I just don't. So I decided,
as opposed to complaining, I'm gonna just beat a change
(02:14):
I want to see.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
I'm gonna bring back the romance.
Speaker 3 (02:15):
I'm gonna bring back the sensuality of it as opposed
to the just just nastiness of it.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
It's one thing to be nasty, it's another thing to
be sensual. Sure, I'm trying to trying to bring that back.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
You know.
Speaker 3 (02:26):
It's one thing to just say it. It's another thing
to find a poetic and interesting way to say it.
Make us think, stimulate a mind as well as a body,
that's that's what I'm.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
Saying to now. Listen, you've gone viral on the show,
you know when you said, uh, you know with songs
of bitching and women dancing to it, and you know
it's kind of their fault too, you know what I
mean that you know it is what it is? Yeah, right,
what it is?
Speaker 3 (02:47):
Right?
Speaker 2 (02:47):
But yo, like yeah, like, there's a lot of music
out there that has just gotten very rawnchy, and it
is what it is, you feel me and love No,
doesn't really exist in a lot of music.
Speaker 3 (02:58):
That is the unfortunate true right now. And I'm trying
to be again, I'm trying to be the change I
want to see. You know, love is an energy, and
it's an energy, and energy can't be destroyed. You know,
it can be forgotten, but it can't be destroyed. I'm
trying to trying to remind people that that love is
one of the most powerful energies on the face of
this planet, and that it is important and it needs
to be incorporated in your everyday life, including your musical selection.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
Yeah right. And love is not just loving someone or something, right,
You have to love yourself first. At first. We're programmed
not to necessarily do that or wired. We're wired that way.
The sad place we live, right It's a sad place
we live right now.
Speaker 3 (03:35):
Everybody is is uh, this, this acceptance from strangers is
just a weird thing.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
You know.
Speaker 3 (03:41):
I have seven beautiful children, and yes, yes, man, My
oldest is fourteen. My youngest just turned two about three
days ago. And you know, it's just sad that they
have to grow up in a time where everything is
about clout and and and if you don't have this
many followers and all that, and it's like like nobody
is preaching about the importance of what it is to
love you first.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
Like I don't.
Speaker 3 (04:02):
I don't give a damn how many mind. I love
all my followers because they're real. I didn't buy them,
you know what I'm saying, They're real. But at the
same time, if nobody followed me, I follow me. And
that's the part, that's the part that needs to be
that's the part that we need to put the spotlight on.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
You know, love you first.
Speaker 3 (04:17):
You ain't gonna love nobody the right way, and nobody's
gonna love you the right way if you don't love
you first. That's what it is.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
Seven children, You love your babies. Indeed, do you see
talent there? Oh?
Speaker 3 (04:29):
Hell yeah, yeah, and listen, I was, I was totally
prepared to be Hollywood dad, and like you know, Joe
Jackson forced them into music.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
I was.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
I was prepared to be that dude. I don't have
to They have it, they do.
Speaker 3 (04:42):
Everybody has perfect pitch, everybody writes, everybody sings on their own.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
Oh yeah, all on their own.
Speaker 3 (04:49):
They sit at the breakfast table and make songs about
how they don't want to go to school and all
all they long to do.
Speaker 4 (04:54):
Yeah, they make a song good enough that they don't
want to go to school. Do you let them be?
Speaker 2 (04:57):
Like, like, that's dope, son, I finished the cheerios. Let's
get out of there. I'll take that. I'll take that.
Speaker 3 (05:07):
I like it. I like it.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
You're gonna sing, You're gonna be the best. Indeed, Now, yeah,
we kind of had that rule with Mike. I only
have two kids, right, I'm way behind you. But but yeah,
like yeah, with my kids, like, if it's funny, you're
not in trouble. But we all got to be laughing,
not just you. Indeed, you feel mean. I like that rule. Yeah,
so you can cuss at the house don't don't cuss
in for any teachers, right right, right right? Your kids
(05:29):
are singing, right do you help them or are you?
Are you writing with the don't.
Speaker 3 (05:33):
Have to like like I thought that I was gonna have,
you know, all right, all right son? You a little flat,
you a little sharp? No, they all have perfect They
sing better than I do, the better I had to
work to get mine.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
They just they just have it. I'm a little jealous
light way. You're not long stage? No, no, no, I
don't think anybody is ready for stage yet.
Speaker 3 (05:55):
But you know, I I like the fact that that
they gravitated to music on their own, because again, the
importance of just for one music for me was like
an outlet, you know what I mean. I grew up
in a house full of women. I'm becoming a young man,
and I ain't got nobody to bounce these emotions off
of us. So I started just doing stupid stuff like
you know, get in trouble and whatnot, and music, you know,
for lack of a better way to save it, to say,
(06:15):
it saved my life because without it, you know, if
my mom didn't hand me that pad and say write
it down, you know, I wouldn't be doing this, you know,
y'a'll be talking to me through some glass or something.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
Wrong lock company. Yeah, man, might would have been it
would have been another way. Yeah right. We we know
right as fans, what you've been through and what you've
gone through to get to this point. Right? Do your
kids know? Just do they know what it takes? The
apollo the groove? They are so low aware of every
radio station working at McDonald's. Man, man, they're they're aware
(06:52):
of it.
Speaker 3 (06:52):
But it's it's like, I mean, telling somebody about something
and experiencing, and it's two totally different things. You know,
none of my children will ever have to work in
me Donald's, you know. So I could tell him what
it was and they go, oh wow, that was cool.
Uh yeah, past the great pulpaond like they do.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
They don't, don't you in the way wants them to
work at McDonald's, So they understand. I wouldn't mind.
Speaker 3 (07:11):
But at the same time, I worked as hard as
I did so that my kids wouldn't have to suffer
the way that I did. You know what I mean,
mind you, I understand that you know, there's a there's
a slippery slope there because you don't want to raise,
you know, little helliens that don't appreciate nothing. But at
the same time, I'm not gonna I'm not gonna have
them suffer the way that I did.
Speaker 2 (07:28):
Man and McDonald's. Were you at the fries? Were you
at the burger? Actually got fired at the fries? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (07:34):
Man, well, I mean well I got fired and quit
at the same time. The dude yelled at me on
the fries, and I'm like, bro, listen, you ain't gonna
yell at me. Take this little name tag, take this
at him out. I worked there long enough to get
two pay checks. Yeah, my man, before I quit, did
you steal nuggets?
Speaker 2 (07:53):
I did. That's what Farrell used to do. Nuggets. If
any of my friends came, they got free for all. Yeah,
that was that was It was a thing.
Speaker 3 (08:01):
How you work at a fast rest runt your friends
can't get free for Come on, man, did you ever figure.
Speaker 5 (08:06):
Out what was wrong with the ice cream machines?
Speaker 1 (08:08):
No? Was it working?
Speaker 5 (08:10):
Then?
Speaker 2 (08:10):
You never touched the ice cream machine?
Speaker 1 (08:11):
And no, no.
Speaker 4 (08:15):
There.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
It's crazy.
Speaker 4 (08:18):
When it comes to writing. You mentioned that you know,
your mom put a notepad in front of you, and
you're she was just like write this down. Do you
still hold the value of writing things down or do
you now use voice notes or do you put things
on your phone.
Speaker 3 (08:30):
Now just for the sake of time and keeping things together?
Is you know, I lose stuff, you know, so I
write in my notes now. But there's definitely something to
be said about putting pen to pad like this.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
If I'm in the.
Speaker 3 (08:43):
Studio and I know that I'm gonna beat it for
a little while and ain't going nowhere, I'll get some
paper and independ.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
And do it that way. There's something to that though, right,
psychologically right, it's something.
Speaker 3 (08:51):
It's something I can't even explain what it is, but
it's it's this versus this. It's a lot from what
I understand writing it down gestures like we're not on.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
Radio, but yeah they can see okay, okay, cool.
Speaker 3 (09:02):
Cool writing it down versus doing it in the in
the phone. It's it's there's a there's an organicness that that.
I don't know, it just it just feels better.
Speaker 5 (09:10):
Well, some of people just punch in now, you know
what I mean.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
They don't even write. They just I tried that. Yeah,
I can't do that.
Speaker 3 (09:18):
No, not disrespecting anybody that does do that. I've actually
been in studio and saw people do that before and
just sat there amazed, like, Bro, you didn't even think
you just you just said said something.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
That's dope.
Speaker 3 (09:29):
I got to sit down and like really calculate what
I want to do. And I think that I think
that that's why my music comes out the way it does.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
That's right. Maybe blame it on public school. I don't know.
I'm thankful for public school.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
Me too.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
I went to public school. Turned out right, Yeah I didn't.
But we're here, We're here, my guy. Listen, Neil Manda, Man,
you give a really good hug. You walked in here
and we hugged it out and there was a tightness there,
and uh, it didn't didn't feel funny. It felt right.
It felt like two bros, like two men. You know
(10:05):
that that have gone on, you know that that have
come a long way. Indeed, gave each other a nice hug,
a nice embrace. There's nothing wrong with its, nothing wrong
with embracing your brother. Ain't nothing wrong, no, man, that
loving that hug. Thank you. Maybe I needed it, you
know what I mean. It's good, happy to be that
for you. But I appreciate that. Thank you very much.
You know, Coaches joined the show and he is geeked
out that you're here. I am geeked.
Speaker 5 (10:27):
Ain't know why because like you know, so, I'm Filipino
and Filipinos love Neo man. Filipinos love you, bro.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
I was. I was not aware. I appreciate it. You
the Philippines I have. Do you know what I have? Yeah?
They do love me. Wow. No, I know, it's bringing
it's bringing back.
Speaker 3 (10:45):
We just we was out there just uh just reason
like the end of the year, and I took a
picture with every single person in the airport and people
that worked there, the security that do like it might
have been bombs that got through there because.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
People were taking pictures.
Speaker 3 (10:59):
It was it was all work, all all works stopped. Yes, yes,
flights was missed, luggage was lost. I took pictures with everybody,
and it was it was. It was. It was a
really dope and it's like genuine love. It's not that
you know what I mean, It's it's like they really
can't like that's dope.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
That's dope. Yeah, shout out to shout out to the Philippines.
They're not taking pictures with you and then asking you
who are you? Yeah, that thing. No, they know who
you are. You're famous. Can I get a picture? What's
your name again?
Speaker 1 (11:27):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (11:27):
Yeah, I mean I take those pictures too, though, I do.
That's okay.
Speaker 4 (11:31):
Something that I do appreciate, like you said, is that
you took a picture with every single person and all
it takes is for fifteen seconds for a picture. If
that like, to make someone's day true, to make someone a.
Speaker 3 (11:42):
Three hour situation and that yeah, particular cations a million, Yeah,
but no, but I prod myss up on that. I've
never grasped the concept of an artist that would disrespect
the people who literally put you where you are, Like,
if not for your fans, who are you? These are
the people that buy the concert tickets, These are the
people that download the music, requesting music on the radio.
(12:04):
So why would you be Why would you Why would
you be mean to them? You know that that doesn't
make any They put you on the pedalstal you're on.
You're gonna look down on that.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
That's stupid. You're human. You're a good human, my man.
All How great is it running into specifically women right
that didn't give you the time of day back in
the day, and they see you now? How how great
is that?
Speaker 3 (12:25):
So? Uh, the last show we did was the last
show we did was here, But then before that, we
did a show in Vegas. And every time I perform
in Vegas, I kid you not, I run into at
least four girls that I went to high school with
that would not spit in my face if my eyebrowsers
on fire at that point in time. Every single time
we go back and yeah, it's it's definitely a yeah,
(12:47):
it's a beautiful experience. It is.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
It's beautiful situation. It feels like revenge. Almost nothing wrong
with that. You're not hurting anyone. Almost, it's definitely you're
not hurting anyone.
Speaker 3 (12:59):
I would get hurt. Front row tickets so that she
can see everything she missed, right up close. Right.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
That's when city boys up. We're here, Ladies and gentlemen,
we're here. What's up? Garcia? Oh yeah, sorry, sorry, show
it's up. Jack.
Speaker 4 (13:14):
You know you said three times in your career there's
songs that were one hundred percent ahead and everyone's like yes,
And one of those was so sick? What were the
other two?
Speaker 3 (13:24):
Uh? So sick was one because of you was one.
Marios let Me Love You was the other one. Where
everybody in the room was like, that's one. Yeah, it
doesn't it doesn't happen like that. Like, you know, I
have roughly four to five opinions that I respect, you know.
So these are the people that I do a song,
(13:46):
I run it by them, and you know what they say,
I take take the hit, take the heart. And normally
it's you know, three people like this one, two people
like this one, or four people like this, one person
like that one. Only those three times has it ever
been everybody like, yep, that's one. That's just the only time,
the only three times.
Speaker 4 (14:03):
That do you because you've like hit those like three
times already, do you constantly like just be like all right,
I'm gonna try like so hard, or you just wait
for it to come naturally.
Speaker 2 (14:14):
You gotta wait for it to come naturally. It's gotta
be magic.
Speaker 3 (14:17):
I can't even tell you why those it happened that
way those three times, you know, because in the first,
the first couple of times it happened, it's like, all right,
now I'm gonna try to write it in the similar
vein of this to see if that happens again, and
it never. It never does, so you kind of just
gotta do what feels good and you know, hope that
people agree. Have you ever written a pile of songs
(14:39):
for specific artists and they chose none of them? Yes,
oh yeah, yeah that that that happens, and you gotta
go home.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
With all these songs.
Speaker 3 (14:45):
Like but see, the thing can be used for something
like Okay, so for example, uh, make me better fabulous myself.
I wrote that originally for jay Z. Yeah, that that
that track would shout out to simular and did the track.
That was my first time going to the studio with
jay Z and also my first time seeing jay Z
and Beyonce, you know, out of the public eye, you know.
(15:07):
So I'm sitting there with the track and I'm supposed
to be writing the hook for j and like Jay
and b are over in the corner just kind of
in their own world, hugged up, you know what I'm saying,
Like no one else exists.
Speaker 2 (15:17):
So I'm like, all right, this was early on. Yeah yeah,
it's like kind of puppy love.
Speaker 3 (15:22):
So I'm like, all right, Jay is clearly a movement
by itself, but them together is like a force. Like
I'm a movement by myself, but I'm a force when
we're together. Maybe I'm good a by myself, but you
you make me okay?
Speaker 2 (15:40):
I wrote it, killed that man. I wrote it. I
played it for him.
Speaker 3 (15:43):
He loved it that night, but then like two days
later heard me and said, this kind of feels more
like an R and B record, So I want you
to have it.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
So he gave it to me, and I'm like, all right, cool.
Speaker 3 (15:51):
So I wrote versus to it in the whole nine uh,
And it's sat in the archives for a few months,
like just because what I wound up doing it kind
of didn't match the format. So again, you know situation
where everything can be used for something. I'm just randomly
in the studio playing stuff for fab.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
I play that. He's like, bro, what are you doing
with that? I'm like, well, nothing, to be honest, let
me get that all right?
Speaker 4 (16:11):
Cool?
Speaker 3 (16:12):
He took it, wrote his verses to it, and it
became the one that everybody knows now. But initially it
was supposed to be for j you know. So it
just because the person you wrote it for it doesn't
want it doesn't mean it's you scrap it. It just
means you you you know, you reformat it and do
something else with it. Yeah, I love how jay Z
gave you a song you wrote. That's great, fucking jay
(16:34):
Z man. Well, I bro, he gave he gave me
the track because the Timberland track that would have would
have cost me hundreds of thousands of dollars and he
gave it to me.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
Okay, you know with Tim's blessing of course, of course,
of course, and of course your three Grammys not one speech?
Not one? How does that happen? Not one?
Speaker 6 (16:52):
Uh?
Speaker 3 (16:53):
My first time going to the Grammys is when I
learned that there are categories that are not televised. You know,
you watch the Grammys on TV, and you feel like
the ones that that they that they show on TV
are just are those are the ones? But it's like, no,
there's there's there's hundreds of them that and a lot
of them aren't televised. So I've won three times in
categories that were never televised.
Speaker 2 (17:12):
Yeah, that's crazy.
Speaker 3 (17:13):
Yeah, I mean it is, but it's it's like it's
like it's it's a bittersweet because it's still a Grammy.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
You know, category. What was it?
Speaker 3 (17:21):
What was it?
Speaker 5 (17:22):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (17:24):
Crap, I can't I can't think of it right off
the top of my hair right now. Back in the day,
categories used to be crazy too, Like I remember the
American Music Awards had like Best Black Single, Like, hey, y'all, yeah,
I remember that. What are we doing? I remember that? Yeah, yeah,
we've We've gotten a little. Actually that we haven't. I'm
(17:44):
about to give us credit that we do not desire.
They just worried it different now. But we know what
they mean. We know what they mean. It's all good.
But three Grammys is man, we'ren't accomplishment.
Speaker 3 (17:54):
Man, I don't. I don't you know, it is what
it is. I know that this just means I got
more work to do, you know. I gotta the category
that they put on TV yo.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
And when you do, get that grabb me where you
get to walk across that stage. Man, that speech. They
better not turn on the music on.
Speaker 3 (18:08):
I wish they would. I'd be done to hit somebody
with the gred turn it off. As I was saying, mom, mom,
and god, mom and god it. Yeah, I'm here to
do four Grammy speeches. Everybody, get comfortable.
Speaker 4 (18:24):
How many songs do you would you say if you
had to put a number on it? Have we not
heard and probably will never hearesh?
Speaker 2 (18:33):
Yeah, that's that's a large number. So lot.
Speaker 3 (18:36):
If you've heard a million, there's eight million, you haven't
easily easily yeah yeah. And then it's like bits and
pieces of songs like like like a line from this
song didn't work in this song, so I took it and.
Speaker 2 (18:48):
Put it in that song. Anymore type situation, you know, like.
Speaker 3 (18:51):
Again if if the world has never heard of it's
brand new, you know, so this all right, this, this
didn't work this way, so can you reformat? You You
switch it around like puzzle pieces and put it somewhere
else and it works over here and work over there,
like yeah, that's what That's basically how it goes.
Speaker 5 (19:05):
You have songs in the archive, like you know, very
old songs that you re used for like I guess future.
Speaker 3 (19:11):
Yeah, absolutely, Again, a bar is a bar. Just because
the bar didn't work for that one, don't mean it
don't work.
Speaker 2 (19:18):
It just didn't work for that one.
Speaker 3 (19:19):
So you take the same bar, you put it somewhere
else and it works.
Speaker 2 (19:22):
Man. Yo, it was your MTV cribs real No no, no,
it was not no. Yeah, that wasn't my house. That
was my manager's house at the time.
Speaker 3 (19:34):
Wow, Because I was on the road, and I hadn't
purchased the house yet, right right, So we used his crib.
Speaker 6 (19:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (19:41):
I come to find out that a lot of them
MTV cribs wasn't real. Yeah, of the MTV cribs weren't
not real.
Speaker 2 (19:47):
Everything childhood Yeah yeah, Yo, it's cousin's sleeping on the floor.
That's real ship right there, that's it's crazy. Man. I
can do it now, I mean the show. Oh no,
we can do it now. Yeah, we can definitely pick
a house. Yeah, you still got a house in Vegas.
I do not no, no, no, no no.
Speaker 3 (20:09):
Now, I'm in Atlanta. I got a little spot in
l A. And uh, I got a couple, a couple
of condos in Atlanta.
Speaker 2 (20:15):
Actually I had a boy. But Vegas is near and deer, right,
I mean that's that's where I first met you. You
were first getting your start. Indeed, you would come to
the radio station and hang out. Yea, and yeah, I
know that the you know, seven oh two means a
lot to you. Still absolutely went to high school there.
Seven o two made me who I am, you know,
as an entertainer. My first taste of the stage, I
(20:36):
was an understudy for a show on a strip called
EFX that it was David Cassidy was the start of
the show. And uh, the guy that I was understudying
for his wife got pregnant, so he was gone that
whole summer. So it was just me on stage every
night doing this this this big show of the MGM
Grand And yeah, that's that's kind of where I got
my show legs at ye. Man, that's crazy, that's great.
(20:58):
And look at it now, man, so many, so many projects,
so many songs written for other artists. D what a career.
Speaker 3 (21:06):
I've been blessed. Man, I've been blessed. I have zero
complaint the good things that happened, to bad things. This happened,
you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (21:12):
I don't.
Speaker 3 (21:13):
I live with no regrets because even the bad stuff
that happened led me to.
Speaker 2 (21:16):
Hear you know what I mean? And I am. I
can honestly say I'm happier now than I have ever
been in life. Like things are really really good. And
it sounds and it looks like you're making a lot
of happy decisions, indeed, decisions that make you happy.
Speaker 3 (21:28):
And that's the important part. I'm not living this life
for nobody but myself and maybe my kids that's it.
Speaker 2 (21:34):
But you but you have in the past, we all have.
I mean, of course I am right, like you know,
we're wired as as as kids are, right because of
what we see. All Right, You're supposed to grow up,
get a job, be successful, one wife, have children, pick
a fence house. That's what a man should do, right
and crazy for everybody.
Speaker 3 (21:55):
You never question it, right, you go, this is what
is This is how supposed to happen.
Speaker 2 (21:59):
This is what it's supposed to be. No one ever goes, well,
why why is it supposed to be that? Why does
it have to be that? Well, because it does. That's
just what it's that's just well, it says who says
the world?
Speaker 3 (22:11):
Oh okay, So my living is for me or my
living is for the world, right, because if I can't
pay my bills, the world ain't gonna pay them.
Speaker 2 (22:17):
Right.
Speaker 3 (22:18):
If I'm depressed, the world ain't gonna cheer me up
like I got it. So I've got to start making
some decisions that makes sense for me. And that's what
I started doing.
Speaker 2 (22:25):
Yeah. And if you have desires as a man, right, uh,
and you fulfill those desires behind people's backs. Now you're
hurting people true when all you have to do is
make yourself happy first, to be honest? Is that what
it is? Honesty? Honesty?
Speaker 3 (22:39):
I know that's that's a beautiful segue. I like what
you're doing there, lovely transition. Sure, No, you know what
what I what I've realized now is that there was
a lot of a lot of time, a lot of energy,
a lot of money wasted on just being dishonest, when
in actuality, I could have kept a rail from the
(23:01):
jump and save myself a lot of headache, a lot
of heartache, just a lot of I gotta go back
to money.
Speaker 2 (23:06):
It's so much money, God, so much money.
Speaker 3 (23:09):
But yeah, man, I've I decided after my divorce that
I wasn't gonna lie to anybody anymore, and it including favor,
including myself. Be honest with myself, be honest with the
people around me, and you know, let the chips forward,
they will, And I can, honestly, I can genuinely say
that honesty is the best policy. Let her choose, let
her decide. You never know, you know what I'm saying.
(23:30):
She might be with it and she might not. But
either way, you slice it if you lie and she
catches you because she's gonna catch you, fellas, I don't
care how smooth you think you are, don't care how
player you think you are. She's gonna catch you. Okay,
you're gonna fall asleep and she's gonna get in your phone.
Are you gonna forget the lie you told? Are you
the apple tea is? It's something? She gonna catch you? Bruh,
(23:53):
She's gonna catch you. You're better off just keeping it
the buck and letting the ones that rock the way
you rock gravitate to you. It's easier, it's easy.
Speaker 2 (24:02):
Well, are you poligical?
Speaker 3 (24:05):
It's not polygamy, right, it's poly polygamy, polyamory, polyamory.
Speaker 2 (24:10):
Yes, basically it's all of that, right yeah, yeah yeah,
m hmm, Jack, it could never be you. Huh.
Speaker 4 (24:16):
I'm not saying it could never.
Speaker 2 (24:17):
I just that's not they're engaged. Congratulations.
Speaker 3 (24:22):
Listen, don't don't don't think that I'm saying that monogamy
don't work. Monogamy didn't work for me for you, sure
that I know people that have been married for years happily.
It's it's definitely a real thing. I just it just
did personally didn't work for me. Polyamorous relationships work for me.
Speaker 2 (24:41):
Don't don't.
Speaker 3 (24:41):
Don't go and ask your girlfriend for a girlfriend to
say what Nel said, don't do that.
Speaker 2 (24:46):
I'm gonna say my wife, can you talk to her
for me? Absolutely, babe, you're on with Neil. I'm kidding.
Just the other day and I was like, hey, like,
have you ever heard story Time?
Speaker 5 (24:58):
And she was like, no, what's that?
Speaker 2 (25:00):
Wow? Let me just play it?
Speaker 5 (25:01):
And then so she's getting ready in one night it's
bumping on my speakers and she was like.
Speaker 2 (25:05):
Yo, this song is nut. What Storytime a cry or
like a cry out? Were you trying to get out
of a box?
Speaker 3 (25:13):
No? Storytime was a real situation that happened, And I actually, yeah,
I actually got caught behind that situation.
Speaker 2 (25:20):
Yeah yeah, because I introduced it and she.
Speaker 3 (25:23):
Was like, well maybe, And I'm like, oh cool, So
I just call her now. She was like caller, Oh damn,
how did you get her number?
Speaker 1 (25:35):
She was.
Speaker 2 (25:37):
She would be down with someone you guys met together,
not someone you were meeting behind her back.
Speaker 5 (25:43):
Also in real life, she was down to bring in
another guy.
Speaker 3 (25:47):
She know what. She wasn't down to bringing another guyte
she said, she said, all right, well you so you
so gung ho about another girl. What if I said
I wanted another dude, and I'm like, hell no, absolutely not, no, thank.
Speaker 2 (26:01):
You, very selfish of you. Man is good.
Speaker 3 (26:05):
The other side, well, here's here's the reality of it.
I do partnership, not ownership. You're not my property. I
don't even want I don't even want to own you.
I want a partner in this situation. I don't demand exclusivity.
I don't ask for it, nothing like that. If you
offer it and I accept, there are rules to follow.
Now on the same side of that, nothing is above
(26:27):
a conversation as long as we're being honest.
Speaker 2 (26:30):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (26:30):
Nothing is above a conversation. But again, if you did,
if you offer exclusivity meaning just me and only me,
and I say, I you sure you understand that your
exclusivity to me doesn't mean exclusivity to you. This is
a decision that you're making on your own. If you
make that decision, and I say, all right, cool, cool,
Well here's the rules. Here's the rules that I need
you to follow. And if you're cool with that, then
(26:52):
we rock. If you're not, we don't and no love loss.
You go your way, I go mine, and it's all good.
Speaker 2 (26:56):
Sounds like a partnership that works, reached out to you
with support in this judgmental space. You know what's crazy.
It's one of those situations where men reach out in secret.
Speaker 6 (27:12):
Yeah, honey, I would never a bro congratulations. Yeah, I
would never do that, babe. Just me and you, babe, Bro,
you living life? Yeah, yeah, no, No, it's a lot
of that. It's a lot of which I honestand you
know I saying I to be completely honest. I'm not
tripping either way. If you with it, cool, if you're
not with it cool, like I'm again because I'm not
doing it for y'all. I'm doing it for me.
Speaker 3 (27:34):
You know, you wouldn't even have known had had Shade
Room not picked up on a post from one of
the girls, like I don't. I wasn't posting initially, like
because again, it's not life, y'all.
Speaker 1 (27:44):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (27:44):
But you know it is what it is, and now
here we are bringing it. Yeah, yeah, great, I don't mind.
I don't mind.
Speaker 3 (27:50):
We can talk about it because because again I have
nothing to hide, because I don't feel like I'm doing
nothing wrong.
Speaker 2 (27:53):
Yeah, just being in.
Speaker 4 (27:55):
Multiple partnerships now, I guess give you more, not ammo.
But like does it help more with writing songs?
Speaker 3 (28:05):
Well, yeah, yeah, I can't write about life a fan
living it absolutely and it allows me to write from
different perspectives.
Speaker 2 (28:13):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (28:14):
It's it's there's there's the monogamous perspective, there's a polyamorous perspective.
There's a perspective of the woman who is curious but
you know, can't get over her jealousy. Mind you, we
talk about all of that. Like, the only way this
works is if everything is laid out on the table.
You know, there's there's four women, right, It's four individuals,
four different personalities, four different outlooks out of you know
(28:35):
what I mean.
Speaker 4 (28:36):
Yeah, because it's also an experience for people too who
maybe are curious about it and just want to know
about it, and they learn that through your music.
Speaker 3 (28:45):
Indeed, see people get caught up on the sexual element
of it. It's more than if the only reason you're
doing it is for the sexual part of it, You're
you're bound to fail. Well, that's that's an orgy, that's swinging,
that's there's there's something, it's something something totally different. This
is community.
Speaker 2 (28:59):
This is a tea.
Speaker 3 (29:00):
We are we are partners in this situation. You know,
four women, five people including me, five different incomes. You
know what I'm saying. I have seven children, but they
help with the kids. My mom knows everybody, loves everybody,
My sister knows everybody. The baby mamaus have met him.
Like it's like it's a community thing.
Speaker 2 (29:17):
You know.
Speaker 3 (29:17):
It's more than just uh an orgy every night. You know,
it happens, but it's not the focal point.
Speaker 2 (29:24):
It's not. I'm over here trying to make it sound
as normal as possible.
Speaker 4 (29:32):
With the village aspect, you know, like you're it takes
a village.
Speaker 3 (29:36):
It definitely, especially with seven and me being busy as
I am, I'm rarely home. I can keep that real,
you know. And my kids, you know, thank God bless
my kids for them being understanding. You know, if you
want your Roebucks and your v Bucks and you and them,
Jordan's daddy gotta go to work, and why daddys at work?
You know, Uh, this was gonna cook your dinner, and
(29:57):
this is gonna make breakfast, and it's gonna get you
ready for school.
Speaker 2 (30:00):
And you know, is it confusing for your kids?
Speaker 3 (30:02):
No, no, because there's conversation right now. Kids understand what
you explain, understand what you explain. If if I make
it confusing, then it's confusing.
Speaker 2 (30:12):
Well you have we have more than one girlfriend? Yeah, yeah,
how very simple, son. I mean, yeah, I explained it.
Then they get it. They understand that's right, Neil.
Speaker 4 (30:24):
That also just shows to you as a father how
open your kids are to accepting that too.
Speaker 2 (30:29):
I mean, they're so understanding of my kids.
Speaker 3 (30:32):
Understand that my kids understand that they are loved, that
they are loved, that they are caring for, and that
is what matters at the end of the day, no
matter how you you know what I'm saying, I've I've
embraced you know, Moneta Shop for example, her her new
husband Keith, who I love. I almost love him more
than her. He's a great, great guy and I've completely
embraced him. And it's it's again, it's what you explain
(30:54):
to the kids in the way that you explain it
and accept it as long as it's love.
Speaker 2 (30:58):
At the end of the day, how you get there
doesn't man. And they see love, Ye show them love,
and that's it. That's understand that it's love of course,
yeah there man. Absolutely, you get to the point where
(31:19):
exactly and then you can spread that around. Yeah, it's
a it's a contagious energy. Yeah man. And one thing
I believe is like, your children have to see you happy.
I don't think I ever saw my parents truly happy,
right because of how we grew up. Right, But like
my kids have to see their parents happy. It's extremely important. Definitely,
(31:39):
it's not fake happy. It's got to be genuinely happy.
Speaker 3 (31:41):
Because they could tell the kids. Kids are not stupid
what you say versus what's what's really going on? Like
the way you put it, like they can feel it,
you know, daddy, Daddy says he's happy. But okay, that's
why daddy walking around with his shoulders up in his
head down all the time because he's happy.
Speaker 2 (31:57):
No, they understand what's going on. I want to get
it quick. What's the internet's obsession with Beyonce not performing Irreplaceable?
Speaker 3 (32:04):
I have no idea what is that? I have zero,
zero concern. Like I mean, if the song is what
it is, it's done what it's done, and yeah, a
monster and there always will be whether she performs it
or not.
Speaker 2 (32:15):
Uh, I don't know.
Speaker 3 (32:17):
I mean Beyonce has a ridiculous catalog, and if she
chooses not to sing that song, that's that's her pariorative.
Speaker 2 (32:22):
It's all good.
Speaker 3 (32:24):
The Internet always wants something to be beef. I don't
have time to beef. I have four girlfriends and seven kids.
I don't have time to beef anyway, zero time. I'm sorry, Beyonce,
love you to death.
Speaker 2 (32:35):
Come on, man, is what it is. We're good.
Speaker 3 (32:37):
We're good.
Speaker 2 (32:37):
I'm good. I'll stop just because you'all mad. Stop trying
to make everybody else mad. I'm not mad for the
internet to look in the mirror, you know what I mean? Like,
come on, man.
Speaker 5 (32:48):
Something I found on the internet was actually, uh, you're
super into moy Thai?
Speaker 3 (32:53):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (32:53):
Man, how did you get into that?
Speaker 5 (32:55):
Who?
Speaker 3 (32:57):
A friend of mine? It was boxing first. I started
doing boxing training and we happened to be in Tiland.
He was like, bro, you want a real workout.
Speaker 2 (33:05):
Come with me.
Speaker 3 (33:05):
So we went to the We went to the place,
and uh yeah, I died like times, like four separate deaths,
came back to life, died again like four different times.
It was insane that I and mind you those so
you know, I don't I don't know how to say this.
What iout was sounded crazy, but like the guys are
like really small but strong as hell, like a dude
(33:29):
not not even half your size, will kick you through
that wall like nuts, how strong they are.
Speaker 2 (33:34):
It's crazy, King, I get it. I get it.
Speaker 3 (33:40):
It's I mean, mind you from the spiritual element of it.
And and you know that the warriors spar and all that.
That's but above that, I do not think that you
can get in there and just throw kick with the dudes. Man, No,
you will die bro like oh yeah, oh yeah yeah.
The strongest when they're was a girl. Not the girls
(34:01):
can't be shown. But like the hardest kick I experienced
came from the smallest woman in the place.
Speaker 2 (34:06):
Wow, it was nothing. A little bit, a little bit,
a little bit, a little bit, YO, show me quality
R and B music. Nichil, thank you very much for
your time and then appreciate the love your honesty always
Neil Man, It's always appreciated.
Speaker 3 (34:19):
Man.
Speaker 2 (34:20):
Ud you to Lamar chilling with my boy Cruise the
Cruise Show. You did what I'm talking about The Cruise
Show on Real ninety two to three,
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