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Speaker 2 (00:37):
Hey, we're sure and you're listening to the Kevin Powell Podcast.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
Hey guys, welcome back to another episode of the Kevin
pell Podcast. My name is Kevin Powell. I love talking
to bands. Wow. I think I say that every time
I do this, but it's true. I love talking to
advands and I got this really cool set up now.
Six Deep was my first one with the almost and
now it's kind of it will never be done, is
what I'm getting at. I will continue to update this
setup forever until the day I die, but nonetheless still
(01:09):
love talking to bands, and I want to get a
band out to you guys. That way, maybe you'll discover
your next favorite band. Who knows. Right now, I have
a band with me, and you know what, I'm just
gonna let them introduce themselves because I'm scared of mispronouncing
this band name, even though we rehearse it three times.
So hello, everybody, why don't you go an unmute? Tell
me who you guys are. How's everyone feeling.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
Hi? We are Shioru and I'm Thalia.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
Hello.
Speaker 3 (01:36):
My name is Danny and I'm Tim.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
What's everyone do in the band?
Speaker 2 (01:42):
I'm the vocalist, lead vocalist, harshest Cleans.
Speaker 3 (01:48):
I play or attempt to play guitar.
Speaker 4 (01:52):
I also attempt to play guitar alongside Danny.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
So I maybe I have this conversation every time I
talked to the bands too. It seems like social media
really just helps with everything now. I don't know if
you remember, like ten years ago, everyone's like social media bad,
bl blah blah blah, and now it's like this is
how we met. We just randomly met. I think there're
a comment and I was like, hey, let's talk, and
here we are talking. So heck yeah, chiaru, Hey, I
(02:17):
got the name right. Let's go. So where are you
guys from? We have three separate rooms, so maybe you're
not all in the same area. Where are you guys from?
Speaker 2 (02:28):
I'm actually from Richmond, Virginia, That's where I am right now.
Speaker 3 (02:32):
Me I am from Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, Go Birds.
Speaker 4 (02:37):
And I'm originally from California but currently in Boston.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
Okay, So definitely Oliver Blay And what about the other
guys in the band?
Speaker 2 (02:47):
The last two are also in Richmond.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
Okay, so you have the home team advantage and I'm gidding. So,
so how does this work? How do you guys get together?
How does the I guess the writing process going. We're
going to dive into your new EP here in a minute,
but like there's some distance between you. How do you
guys make it work?
Speaker 2 (03:05):
A lot of traveling, I think at this point we've
done road trips with like every combination of bandmate. We've
all like had opportunities to do the like four and
a half hour drive from Philly to Boston, or Philly
to Richmond, or Richmond of Boston. We've done some good
combinations of that. And also the internet.
Speaker 4 (03:28):
Lots of group chats and lots of face times. That's
how everything gets.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
Done, So group chat, FaceTime, some traveling. How long is
the traveling.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
We do our best to be super efficient with our trips,
so obviously we're not like, ah, weekend, let's just hang
out and play this at one time. We kind of
plan them out like months in advance, so we do
a lot of writing virtually, and then we're like, all, right,
time to track all of the guitars. Let's pick a week.
(04:03):
We're all free and get together wherever that happens to
be convenient. And if there's stuff that we can stack on,
for example, like play through videos, we'll track guitars and
film play through videos at the same time, or you know,
writing vocals and filming music videos. We try to be
(04:23):
super scheduled and regimented with our time when we do
make those trips, because it's an investment.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
You know, is there like a main practice place or
is it just kind of like wherever you guys end up.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
This is a fun question because we are just about
to play the set all the way through together for
the first time. Because of this virtual nature, like everything
so far was writing and then when we record, we
record individually, and so for the first time, we are
about to borrow a friend's house in Jersey. Actually Valentine's weekend,
(04:58):
we're all going to Jersey and we're gonna borrow our
friend's house and play through the set a couple of times.
So that's coming up and I'm really excited about that.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
Okay, So I'm sure that brings a little bit of nervousness.
So what were you guys doing before? Just kind of
going to Virginia. We're going to just going to wherever or.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
It's just nice to have that spread, right, because like
we have so many options. We're not working with one
city for video shoots. We have the three and that's
been something that we try to take advantage of. Also,
for sure, I love that.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
I hope that if you're starting off musician watching this,
that you're taking some notes, because being efficient is the
way to go. Like you said, it's not a all right,
we're gonna practice through set kind of once.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
I'm an order Chinese gonna hang out, man, I'm.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
Like, which there's something wrong with But at the same time,
we've got stuff to do. And you know, props to
you guys because I'm sure you guys all have jobs
of some sort, and you've got hobbies you want to
do and this and that, and I have cats so
I have to take care of them. So it's like
a whole it's a whole process to get everything together
and get everyone together and especially on the same page.
So props to you guys on that. So I do
(06:02):
want to talk about the new EP. And right before,
like when I was driving and I was lifting, I
was listening to a few songs off of Advantage, So
what I really enjoyed was Project eight and Ruin. I
want to start with the guitar players this time, because man,
the guitar work on this is pretty good. And I
don't know what tuning you guys use, but I love
(06:23):
the low ones. Yea, guys, got it. Production is great.
So why don't you guys tell me a little bit
about the new EP.
Speaker 4 (06:31):
An you want to start?
Speaker 5 (06:32):
Sure?
Speaker 3 (06:35):
Kind of like what we do.
Speaker 5 (06:36):
We kind of take a because I know, like old school,
like metal heads, they kind of stick to a tuning, you.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
Know, like.
Speaker 5 (06:45):
You know, growing up, we'd listen to thresh metal and
like you know, everything is in like E standard or
you know, half step down. But for us, we definitely
hop all over the place. This is a testament Tholly.
Also you know having that range. But yeah, no, So
for those songs in particular Project eight, Tim, do you
(07:06):
recall what tuning that is?
Speaker 3 (07:07):
It technically is a nine string tuning.
Speaker 4 (07:13):
I believe it is double drop C mhm or double
drop D one very low, very low.
Speaker 5 (07:25):
Yeah, and then Ruin is actually one of the higher
ones that dropped f.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
So so anytime I mean, I mean I have this
is a rare occasion where I get to talk about
nine string guitars. This camera will show it. This one.
I'm just gonna bust out because you know, so I
have the very cool Legatoor Josh Travis signature, and I
just told the story with sixty about acquiring one of
(07:52):
two ESP guitars with one head Fisherman one at EMG
pickups custom made for Josh Travis himself, and I have
one of them. So anytime nine string has brought up,
my ears are perked. So heck, yeah, okay, good. I
knew I like the songs, but now I know really
why Now with writing and recording and all that stuff,
(08:14):
what can you guys share about how you like mindset,
how you went into this you could, you know, as
a band, collectively, individually, anything like that.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
Start us off, Danny, because this kind of started a
lot with you with your.
Speaker 3 (08:29):
This is like a rabble hole, but I'll keep it
short and sweet. Zev and I.
Speaker 5 (08:35):
Zev he used to be like the drummer of our band,
but now he's taking a step back.
Speaker 3 (08:38):
He's taking a role of a producer.
Speaker 5 (08:40):
But him and I we always rave about pop music,
I mean anything like outside of the metal realm. So
it is always like this range, right, it's like explore
through like electronic instruments like eight to eights, right, And
like obviously the metal genres kind of came onto that eventually,
you know, with the nine string that you mentioned before.
(09:03):
With this EP specifically, the big thing was like all right,
so like for the heavier songs like that, since we
love kind of like popular music anyways, we kind of
wanted to bring that element to like into the metalcore environment.
So for like Project eight for example, right, Like for
those types of songs, we always try to set challenges
(09:24):
for ourselves. But for that song and some other songs specifically,
we try to make the catchiest song we can with
the lowest way we can. It sounds so ridiculous, but like,
you know, you have to like set challenges like that
for yourselves, right, and that's where like creativity is born
for us. But yeah, so all the songs literally on
(09:45):
this EP, like they all like I take great pride
in that every single song has an identity just from
the instrumentals, right, So before Dahler even touches the songs, right,
all of them instrumentally they have like their own thing.
So that's what we do in terms of writing. The
lower tunings just so happens to be you know, what's in.
(10:08):
That's just what keeps us interested and keeps our interests
peaked right now.
Speaker 3 (10:12):
But yeah, so that's what we do.
Speaker 5 (10:14):
Arrangement wise, we're very like pop structured in that sense,
you know, verse, chorus, versus chorus, repeated sections, you know,
your nasty breakdown, you.
Speaker 3 (10:22):
Know the good stuff.
Speaker 5 (10:24):
But yeah, so like all these songs, you know, we
definitely arrange and compose the best that we can and
then we you know, let Thallia look at these songs and.
Speaker 3 (10:35):
Let her touch it. How she how she does.
Speaker 1 (10:39):
Anthalia? How do you? How do you do that?
Speaker 2 (10:43):
So this EP was like my favorite writing experience of
all time. The challenge for me was that all the
instrumentals were written before they even knew that I was
going to be in the band. Initially, I started with
Hioru on the song you now know as Advantage as
(11:04):
a feature, So that was like the original kind of
how I started working with this band. And then that
went really well and I started transitioning to being the
primary vocalist and I had these tracks that it was
a style I had never done before. I've never screamed
on a recording until I recorded hook line Sync like
(11:27):
that was a first for me. And so you know,
Danny was talking a lot of I have to keep
yourself challenged, and I certainly was. So I took these
tracks and what I liked about it was that the
stuff that Tim and Danny and Zev had written like
made me feel something. So without even having vocals on there,
(11:47):
I knew what the songs were about. So I would
listen to them and I would start picturing the story
or what it was saying in my mind and then
start writing from there. Usually I hearing a song through,
I'll come up with like a melody and I'm like, great,
let's build on that. But for me. The best part
(12:07):
of this was writing with zev. Zev is an awesome
producer and so being in the room with him while
I'm writing these parts and like singing a part for
the first time, and then having him do some quick
production moves to like make it sound like a song
was amazing for my creativity flow. To have him flesh
out the song as I'm writing it, and that really
(12:27):
helped give me direction as I was.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
Going, don't you love that? I don't know how many
producers you've worked with or anything like that, but you know, producers,
they sometimes are the extra member of the band, and
I love when producers can you know, you pitch them
an idea, here's kind of what we're going for, and
they're like okay, and in person over like I don't know,
(12:53):
just sending it off to whoever to do whatever they
want with. There's a nine day difference because now, yes,
they can help you with I'm kind of stuck on
this chorus, what do you think? And yeah, your band
members have opinions, but like a producer can really be
like what if you tried this and you're like, it's
a dumb idea, it'll never work, and then it does work,
and you're like, I love it, I love you. Everything's great.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
Well, even one thing that happened with Zev working remotely,
this was before I had met him in person. I think,
like in this band capacity. I had recorded a demo
and he was like, great, send me the vocal tracks
so that I can mix them in, and so I
sent him just the vocals, and things hadn't been I
(13:34):
think the placement got off when I was sending him
the vocal tracks, and so he placed vocals differently in
the demo that he sent back to me than I
had originally intended for them to be, and we ended
up sticking with that. It was just sort of like
a happy accident of he heard something that I didn't.
I think what we actually did was we took half
in half. So we used half his idea and half
my idea, and we took this half and half that. Honestly,
(13:57):
would somebody hearing it be like, wow, that's a really
interesting thing with the did that? Probably not, but like
it was fun for us, and it was again just
a happy accident that happened, and.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
You guys love it. So it all worked out. Guitar players,
what what was your input with this producer. Did you
guys go back and forth like with her? Or like
what what what'd you guys do?
Speaker 3 (14:20):
So I'll take the reins on this one, so if
you don't mind.
Speaker 5 (14:27):
So Zev is local to Philly here, so whenever he's
not on tour, he's home. He were always bugging right
to like find time, like, hey, let's get in a room.
Speaker 3 (14:38):
Let's call Tim.
Speaker 5 (14:40):
That's right, it's all right, man, I don't think I
got anything, but let's you know, let's figure it out.
Speaker 3 (14:46):
We get into a room, call up Tim. All right,
this is what we're working on. And usually.
Speaker 5 (14:52):
I'm surprised most times myself, like hey, what does come out?
Speaker 3 (14:57):
Is? You know a lot better than I thought it was.
Speaker 5 (14:59):
So we have like a lot of different methods, if
you will, about like writing guitar parts. But Zev also
does this thing where he works a lot with midi instruments,
so he was just midi out of riff kind of
like it's like the adverse right this time around, how
you know how like guitar guitar players would just midi
(15:20):
out like a drum part and we're like, all right,
drummer play this.
Speaker 3 (15:23):
He's like, all right, I'm gonna mediouto and guitar. You
guys play this, were like.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
Uh okay, a little bit of a challenge.
Speaker 5 (15:30):
Yeah yeah, so yeah, so not all songs are like that,
but some of them are. And yeah, you know it
keeps Tim and I on our toes for sure. But
if that's not the case, you know, we usually like, hey,
like we can switch this and that to make it
a little more human less MIDI you know, medi like.
Speaker 3 (15:50):
But yeah, that's.
Speaker 5 (15:51):
Usually the the course of action, the how most things are,
most ideas that are kind of created.
Speaker 3 (15:58):
You know, I just had a to Zev's house. We
sit down, We called Tim put on South Park in
the background.
Speaker 5 (16:06):
You know, I just you know, yeah, we catch a
vibe and we just we just write and you know,
see what we do. You know, we can be spending
like three hours on something and just not use it
because you know we're like, all right, well we chase
that dragon.
Speaker 3 (16:16):
It isn't what we're looking for.
Speaker 1 (16:19):
But okay, is there a main songwriter for the band
or is everybody contribute? Pretty equally different answers across all
my interviews, so just figured out I ask you guys
as well.
Speaker 3 (16:33):
Yeah, I would say we all contribute evenly for sure.
Speaker 5 (16:38):
You know, having someone like Zev is definitely priceless because
he kind of has like an outside outlook and same thing.
Speaker 3 (16:46):
So like, if Zev has a demo right he's feeling
strongly about, he brings it to us.
Speaker 5 (16:50):
Same thing. We all kind of pitching ideas for arrangement
composition right to see like what works or this idea
is cooler, you know that type of thing. So we
all kind of pitch ideas and kind of, you know,
make it into one song and if we attempt to
make it all cohesive.
Speaker 1 (17:09):
Perfect.
Speaker 4 (17:10):
Hey, this is Mikey from the band Snot and you
are listening to the Kevin Powell podcast at iHeartRadio right now.
Speaker 1 (17:17):
I'm talking to Chiaru and these guys have a new
EP out right now. And Thaliat you mentioned something about,
you know, going into it with like a story. Now,
what about like the subject and inspiration behind this EP.
I'm sure you had full reigns on this.
Speaker 2 (17:33):
So the EP kind of came out the whole thing
being about a toxic cycle. And what I like about
it is that each song, although the whole thing is
about a toxic toxic cycle, it ended up kind of
being a full story with each song. If you kind
of listen straight through, you get different parts of that cycle.
(17:58):
But what I really appreciate about it is that each
song is not necessarily written about the same thing. So, like,
there are some songs about a relationship, a toxic relationship cycle,
and that is something that you can get stuck in
and then have a lot to say about. But there's
a song that's about like the toxic relationship with like working.
So Life or Death is actually about like I was
(18:21):
sick and tired of working, and I was like, am
I just doing this every single day until I die?
Working all the time and I'm never winning and you
can't get ahead, and and like that's what that song
is about, is I was just sick and tired of working.
Hook Line Sync is about, you know, it is a
different perspective of the same toxic relationship of this time
instead of being you know, being the abuser any relationship,
(18:44):
essentially being the person who is manipulating and perpetrating the
sort of toxicity. And when I wrote all of these songs,
I again, I heard them and I wrote about what
I was hearing. So Project date was when I was
really stuck on and one day I was in the car.
I was like, let me just put the damo on
(19:05):
no pressure. See if somebody comes to me and I
it made me think of this dream I used to have,
like a recurring dream where I was just running away
from something all the time and I didn't know what
I was running from or where I was going. And
that's I mean, that's the words of the song. But
and I let you so I would wrote all these songs,
(19:26):
and then the guys were like, so this is the
order that we were what we wrote them in. And
when they put them in the order that they had
intended them to be in, which I didn't really know,
the story came out kind of full circle, with Vantage
being the sort of break free song at the end,
Ruined being the turning point that that point in the
(19:49):
cycle where you were questioning what you're doing and begging
yourself to kind of be free of it. You know,
life death is the part where you get mad. Hook
Line Sync is the start of it where you get
hooked on this cycle. It ended up being like straight
through the cycle, which I think is a testament really
to the guy's storytelling through their instrumentals. You know, like
(20:13):
I heard their instrumentals, and I knew what they were saying,
and then I put those words on it, and it
came out full circle the way that each person had
intended when every song was written, at every stage of
the process.
Speaker 1 (20:27):
I love it some now, truth be told, I haven't
listened front the back yet. I haven't had time, but
because we just met. But now that I know that,
when I go in, I'll have this subconscious like, okay,
actually listen to the lyrics, actually figure out what the
story is, and actually remember what she said. So thank
you for sharing that totally.
Speaker 2 (20:46):
Yeah, let us know if that comes through to you too.
Speaker 1 (20:50):
Sure. Also, you and I have to collab on hating
work because no offense to certain people. But it's every
You're right, it's every day. You gotta be kidding me,
all right, I'm not gonna ran for five.
Speaker 2 (21:05):
Minutes and granted like I wrote that song because that's
how it was feeling at the time. I was like,
this sucks. There's no end in sight. I'm twenty three,
like it's only gonna get worse from here, like, oh
my god. And I remember, like I was, I was
in a spiral, and there was one day when I
had a good day, you know, like the sun was shining,
the birds were chirping, and I was like, guys, maybe
it's not that deep, Like maybe it's not only life
(21:27):
or death. Whoa so bit of drama in there, But
that's art baby, all.
Speaker 1 (21:34):
Right, hands up? If you work multiple jobs, yeah, shouldn't
be that way, shouldn't be the norm. But whatever. So
if someone has never heard of you guys, and they're
just now learning of you guys, how would you describe
your sound to them? What's gonna draw them in?
Speaker 2 (21:53):
I always say that we are pop metal and that
we like getting heavy. I usually talk to people that
don't listen to metal, and so when somebody who doesn't
listen to metals like you're in a metal band, I say,
it's pop metal. Okay, we've got melodies. You can sing along.
You know, I'm not yelling at you the whole time.
You can sing along. But we do like to throw down.
It's sure a.
Speaker 1 (22:12):
Camp you know, what about guitar players.
Speaker 4 (22:19):
I also work with a bunch of coworkers that don't
listen to metal, So I always lead, we're a metal band. Well,
we got things you can sing too, and things you
can get mad to.
Speaker 3 (22:32):
Yeah, for me. Anytime someone asks, they're like, oh, you're
in a band. I'm like yeah, You're like, what kind
of news do you play? I'm like metal. They're like,
oh okay. I'm like, but it's like not metal, it's
like catchy metal. Okay, it's like heavy, poppy metal.
Speaker 1 (22:47):
You're like one of the Metallica's right, exactly.
Speaker 4 (22:51):
Number one answer.
Speaker 1 (22:52):
Okay, wonderful. Now we have time and I've never been
able to do this yet, So first interview for you,
and first time I get to do this. Who's ready
for some actually off the wall fun questions? I am
all right. So I've been working with iHeart for twelve
thirteen years, right out of high school and now I'm thirty,
so whatever. I have to give credit to the people
(23:14):
I heard this from. I work with the ECHL, which
is a hockey league directly under the NHL over on
the East Coast, and this is from the Wheeling Nailors,
and they always asked this question to their players, and
I was like, you know what, I'm stealing it. So
too bad, I'm stealing it. We're gonna go around the
room here, who is the most famous person in your phone?
And if you called them would they answer, can.
Speaker 2 (23:39):
You go first.
Speaker 4 (23:44):
Man, famous person?
Speaker 1 (23:46):
Well disclosure, I did not prep them with these questions beforehand.
This is all fresh, so this is good.
Speaker 4 (23:52):
Shall I go down the contact list?
Speaker 3 (23:55):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (23:56):
Get three quints?
Speaker 4 (23:57):
Oh you know what right off the top there on
an I would say, kind of a hometown hero kind
of thing. Is Adrian Oropeza from After the Burial?
Speaker 1 (24:09):
Oh wait, we met a long plays based now right?
Speaker 2 (24:13):
Yep?
Speaker 4 (24:13):
Based in After the Burial?
Speaker 1 (24:15):
Yeah, I met him at see this is a great
conversation starter. I met him at incarceration last year and
he is sweetheart. Actually interviewed him real quick too. He's awesome,
so heck, yeah.
Speaker 4 (24:28):
He's amazing. He's helped me out on a school project before.
Actually we met when I was I think mid high school.
I just was in the front row on the barricades
of After the Burial show they're opening up. He saw
me going hard. I just met him at the merch
table and then the rest is history.
Speaker 1 (24:51):
If you were to call him right now, what do
you answer?
Speaker 4 (24:53):
Ooh? That is.
Speaker 5 (24:57):
What?
Speaker 1 (24:57):
Do you have any idea what the number is?
Speaker 4 (25:00):
Yeah? I think maybe sixty forty on maybe answering.
Speaker 1 (25:04):
Okay, we're not doing it. I'm just it's just part
of the question.
Speaker 4 (25:07):
Well, well we'll find out later.
Speaker 2 (25:10):
Danny you go.
Speaker 4 (25:13):
Jeevez?
Speaker 5 (25:15):
Definitely, I don't know anybody, and I'm sure as hell
don't have numbers.
Speaker 3 (25:22):
I'm more of a social media guy. But I would
have to say Zev. I mean, Zev is the most
famous person I know. And if I.
Speaker 5 (25:29):
Call, he better pick up, pick up, pick up the
phone call for your best friend, dude, Like.
Speaker 1 (25:36):
Having to produce a ray to go is not a
bad thing. So that's fine, right right?
Speaker 5 (25:40):
Yeah, So he's definitely the most famous, So.
Speaker 2 (25:45):
I think he would laugh if he heard me say this.
But I think one of the most famous people on
my phone is Casey Soyke plays bass in Harm's Way,
and I don't I think he would pick up. I
think he would pick up.
Speaker 1 (25:57):
How do you know him?
Speaker 2 (25:59):
I work in a music venue here in Richmond, and
arms Way came through and we became friends through music stuff,
just both being in bands.
Speaker 1 (26:08):
You know, isn't that cool? See, no one ever thought
I asked this question. But it was fun, didn't you
guys have fun? I had fun? Any guilty pleasure artists
meaning you know, maybe it's not an artist that everyone
looks at you and you're like, yeah, they probably listen
to them, like I have an obituary tank on, but
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most people wouldn't believe that. I like listening to Billy Ocean.
He has some part, he has some hits.
Speaker 3 (26:37):
He does.
Speaker 4 (26:38):
Hmm, Tim, let's go reverse order for this one. Need
a second.
Speaker 2 (26:45):
It's the way you phrase that question is interesting because
artists the people wouldn't expect me to listen to. I
think are the metal bands I listened to like I
feel like I don't give off a super metal band vibe,
so like bands like Nails and Harm's Way, the hardcore stuff.
I think people are gonna see me and be like
(27:05):
are you sure?
Speaker 1 (27:07):
And just like that because she mentioned Nails or Allya
mentioned Nails. We're best friends. Because every time every time
one of my clips so a couple of my clips
from Loud in Life, I'm wearing this nail shirt and
ninety percent of the comments are like Nails mentioned Nails shirt.
I'm like, yes, I like Nails. They're all of my
favorite bands.
Speaker 2 (27:25):
Anyways, I think, as somebody who like lifts and goes
to the gym, Nails a great band to like Nails.
Simon sick bag, like the crazy ones that helps you. Danny.
Speaker 5 (27:40):
For me, I would say the most. It's not guilty
for me, but right other people would probably consider it. Oh,
I love Michael Bolton. Michael Bolton is the man.
Speaker 3 (27:52):
I love Michael Bolton.
Speaker 1 (27:53):
So okay, why what do you mean?
Speaker 2 (27:56):
Why?
Speaker 3 (27:57):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (27:57):
His?
Speaker 5 (27:58):
If if I had the chance just to hear them
sing me to sleep every night about I absolutely would.
Speaker 3 (28:03):
I would love that. I would love that.
Speaker 2 (28:06):
I did not see that.
Speaker 3 (28:09):
I love Michael Bolton. What can I say?
Speaker 2 (28:14):
It leaves you, Timmy.
Speaker 4 (28:17):
I think I've got to give Ali your credit on
this one. She went me on to Sabrina Carpenter. More recently,
I've been digging that people don't expect that from me,
but that means brisso come on.
Speaker 2 (28:30):
I mean, Espresso came out when we were in Philly
filming our music videos last year, and that like since then,
it's been stuck in our heads.
Speaker 1 (28:41):
Kevin has been down ever since shaken Espresso from Duncan.
Speaker 2 (28:46):
I haven't tried it. I haven't tried it. I live
too far south to have Duncans around here. You gotta
like find a Duncan.
Speaker 4 (28:52):
I live like three doors down from one and Unfortunately
I still have not tried it.
Speaker 1 (28:58):
All right, listen, you can't say you like Sabrina Carpenter
and not try this training. Now you're gonna get it.
You're gonna try it, and you're gonna go it's pretty good,
and then you'll never get it again. That's what I did.
But it's limited, so go get it. Duncan sponsor me. Anyways.
What I'm gonna do now is go back to regular
programming with my questions because zoom only gives you so along. Anyways,
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the question I asked toward the end of all my
interviews if you had any advice for bands just starting out?
What advice would that be? Maybe they are just starting
out and they're just a bunch of friends making music together,
and maybe they're gonna do a show or two. Maybe
they've been around for a couple of years and they
(29:42):
just want to break through to the next part in life.
I asked this question every band rather they're just starting
out themselves. I've talked to like the Offspring, I've talked
to like all kinds of bands in between, so I
get all kinds of different answers. What's your advice.
Speaker 2 (30:00):
Before it tim all?
Speaker 4 (30:02):
Right? I'd say find each other's strengths. Everybody in the band,
find their strengths and exploit it lovingly. I like to
make fun of Thali, but she's on her phone all
the time, so she can see things pop up faster
than I can. So we let her handle the online
(30:24):
stuff for the most part. So if you've ever seen
a comment come back from the band account, it's probably Thalia.
She's got the bubbly personality as you probably seen today.
Speaker 1 (30:35):
So yeah, well, yeah, we're best friends now and everything.
Speaker 2 (30:41):
Yeah, just like that, I think, I think definitely take
your time. It's easy because social media is so fast paced.
It's easy to like get caught up and be like, allright,
let's put something out, let's do this, next thing, next thing.
But and I definitely am guilty of this, and so
it's good to have bandmates that balance you out. Take
your time and put together a project that you are
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really proud of. Make sure that in every way, the
way it looks, the way it sounds, the way that
you promote it, make sure you're proud of like every step,
everything that's gone into it, and then take your time
when you put it out, you know, let it sit
out there, let people take their time to find it,
because even overnight successes are not overnight. You know, the
(31:25):
best new artists that want that wins Grammy's. I mean,
they've been working for ten years, so you know, take
your time, let things, let things similar, let people find them,
and just make sure make sure you promote yourself. It
can be tough as a small artist and a little
bit embarrassing sometimes to know I'm in a band, I'm
in a band, I'm going to bed, But you know,
you have to be your biggest champion, so just it's
(31:46):
easier to promote yourself when you're proud of your project too.
Speaker 1 (31:49):
So very well said all around. Do you guys have
any final words for fans that either you just made
or maybe people you've known for a long time. Final
words at all?
Speaker 2 (32:01):
Thank you. Everybody that has listened to us and has
watched our videos or liked us on Instagram or comment
did thank you very much. That means a lot to
us being a small band. Every view, every like, every comment,
every share like actually makes a huge difference. If you've
just listened to us for the first time, Thanks for
taking your time to listen to us like we genuinely
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appreciate every single person that supports us in any way.
Speaker 1 (32:28):
Follow Yeah, Danny, Tim, appreciate a little bit of your
time today. I'm gonna talk to you here in a
little bit off air. All right, guys, that was Hiaru.
They have a brand new EP out right now. It's
called Advantage, and you know, as Thalia said, there's a
story in there, so you really need to listen and
get into it. And I mean, hey, if you like
pop and you like metal, well you're gonna like pop
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metal and it's Shiaru. Appreciate everyone tuning into this episode
of podcast. You know, it's awesome that you guys do.
I love doing this, so thank you. We'll see you
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Speaker 2 (00:37):
Hey, we're sure and you're listening to the Kevin Powell Podcast.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
Hey guys, welcome back to another episode of the Kevin
pell Podcast. My name is Kevin Powell. I love talking
to bands. Wow. I think I say that every time
I do this, but it's true. I love talking to
advands and I got this really cool set up now.
Six Deep was my first one with the almost and
now it's kind of it will never be done, is
what I'm getting at. I will continue to update this
setup forever until the day I die, but nonetheless still
(01:09):
love talking to bands, and I want to get a
band out to you guys. That way, maybe you'll discover
your next favorite band. Who knows. Right now, I have
a band with me, and you know what, I'm just
gonna let them introduce themselves because I'm scared of mispronouncing
this band name, even though we rehearse it three times.
So hello, everybody, why don't you go an unmute? Tell
me who you guys are. How's everyone feeling.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
Hi? We are Shioru and I'm Thalia.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
Hello.
Speaker 3 (01:36):
My name is Danny and I'm Tim.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
What's everyone do in the band?
Speaker 2 (01:42):
I'm the vocalist, lead vocalist, harshest Cleans.
Speaker 3 (01:48):
I play or attempt to play guitar.
Speaker 4 (01:52):
I also attempt to play guitar alongside Danny.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
So I maybe I have this conversation every time I
talked to the bands too. It seems like social media
really just helps with everything now. I don't know if
you remember, like ten years ago, everyone's like social media bad,
bl blah blah blah, and now it's like this is
how we met. We just randomly met. I think there're
a comment and I was like, hey, let's talk, and
here we are talking. So heck yeah, chiaru, Hey, I
(02:17):
got the name right. Let's go. So where are you
guys from? We have three separate rooms, so maybe you're
not all in the same area. Where are you guys from?
Speaker 2 (02:28):
I'm actually from Richmond, Virginia, That's where I am right now.
Speaker 3 (02:32):
Me I am from Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, Go Birds.
Speaker 4 (02:37):
And I'm originally from California but currently in Boston.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
Okay, So definitely Oliver Blay And what about the other
guys in the band?
Speaker 2 (02:47):
The last two are also in Richmond.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
Okay, so you have the home team advantage and I'm gidding. So,
so how does this work? How do you guys get together?
How does the I guess the writing process going. We're
going to dive into your new EP here in a minute,
but like there's some distance between you. How do you
guys make it work?
Speaker 2 (03:05):
A lot of traveling, I think at this point we've
done road trips with like every combination of bandmate. We've
all like had opportunities to do the like four and
a half hour drive from Philly to Boston, or Philly
to Richmond, or Richmond of Boston. We've done some good
combinations of that. And also the internet.
Speaker 4 (03:28):
Lots of group chats and lots of face times. That's
how everything gets.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
Done, So group chat, FaceTime, some traveling. How long is
the traveling.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
We do our best to be super efficient with our trips,
so obviously we're not like, ah, weekend, let's just hang
out and play this at one time. We kind of
plan them out like months in advance, so we do
a lot of writing virtually, and then we're like, all, right,
time to track all of the guitars. Let's pick a week.
(04:03):
We're all free and get together wherever that happens to
be convenient. And if there's stuff that we can stack on,
for example, like play through videos, we'll track guitars and
film play through videos at the same time, or you know,
writing vocals and filming music videos. We try to be
(04:23):
super scheduled and regimented with our time when we do
make those trips, because it's an investment.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
You know, is there like a main practice place or
is it just kind of like wherever you guys end up.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
This is a fun question because we are just about
to play the set all the way through together for
the first time. Because of this virtual nature, like everything
so far was writing and then when we record, we
record individually, and so for the first time, we are
about to borrow a friend's house in Jersey. Actually Valentine's weekend,
(04:58):
we're all going to Jersey and we're gonna borrow our
friend's house and play through the set a couple of times.
So that's coming up and I'm really excited about that.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
Okay, So I'm sure that brings a little bit of nervousness.
So what were you guys doing before? Just kind of
going to Virginia. We're going to just going to wherever or.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
It's just nice to have that spread, right, because like
we have so many options. We're not working with one
city for video shoots. We have the three and that's
been something that we try to take advantage of. Also,
for sure, I love that.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
I hope that if you're starting off musician watching this,
that you're taking some notes, because being efficient is the
way to go. Like you said, it's not a all right,
we're gonna practice through set kind of once.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
I'm an order Chinese gonna hang out, man, I'm.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
Like, which there's something wrong with But at the same time,
we've got stuff to do. And you know, props to
you guys because I'm sure you guys all have jobs
of some sort, and you've got hobbies you want to
do and this and that, and I have cats so
I have to take care of them. So it's like
a whole it's a whole process to get everything together
and get everyone together and especially on the same page.
So props to you guys on that. So I do
(06:02):
want to talk about the new EP. And right before,
like when I was driving and I was lifting, I
was listening to a few songs off of Advantage, So
what I really enjoyed was Project eight and Ruin. I
want to start with the guitar players this time, because man,
the guitar work on this is pretty good. And I
don't know what tuning you guys use, but I love
(06:23):
the low ones. Yea, guys, got it. Production is great.
So why don't you guys tell me a little bit
about the new EP.
Speaker 4 (06:31):
An you want to start?
Speaker 5 (06:32):
Sure?
Speaker 3 (06:35):
Kind of like what we do.
Speaker 5 (06:36):
We kind of take a because I know, like old school,
like metal heads, they kind of stick to a tuning, you.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
Know, like.
Speaker 5 (06:45):
You know, growing up, we'd listen to thresh metal and
like you know, everything is in like E standard or
you know, half step down. But for us, we definitely
hop all over the place. This is a testament Tholly.
Also you know having that range. But yeah, no, So
for those songs in particular Project eight, Tim, do you
(07:06):
recall what tuning that is?
Speaker 3 (07:07):
It technically is a nine string tuning.
Speaker 4 (07:13):
I believe it is double drop C mhm or double
drop D one very low, very low.
Speaker 5 (07:25):
Yeah, and then Ruin is actually one of the higher
ones that dropped f.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
So so anytime I mean, I mean I have this
is a rare occasion where I get to talk about
nine string guitars. This camera will show it. This one.
I'm just gonna bust out because you know, so I
have the very cool Legatoor Josh Travis signature, and I
just told the story with sixty about acquiring one of
(07:52):
two ESP guitars with one head Fisherman one at EMG
pickups custom made for Josh Travis himself, and I have
one of them. So anytime nine string has brought up,
my ears are perked. So heck, yeah, okay, good. I
knew I like the songs, but now I know really
why Now with writing and recording and all that stuff,
(08:14):
what can you guys share about how you like mindset,
how you went into this you could, you know, as
a band, collectively, individually, anything like that.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
Start us off, Danny, because this kind of started a
lot with you with your.
Speaker 3 (08:29):
This is like a rabble hole, but I'll keep it
short and sweet. Zev and I.
Speaker 5 (08:35):
Zev he used to be like the drummer of our band,
but now he's taking a step back.
Speaker 3 (08:38):
He's taking a role of a producer.
Speaker 5 (08:40):
But him and I we always rave about pop music,
I mean anything like outside of the metal realm. So
it is always like this range, right, it's like explore
through like electronic instruments like eight to eights, right, And
like obviously the metal genres kind of came onto that eventually,
you know, with the nine string that you mentioned before.
(09:03):
With this EP specifically, the big thing was like all right,
so like for the heavier songs like that, since we
love kind of like popular music anyways, we kind of
wanted to bring that element to like into the metalcore environment.
So for like Project eight for example, right, Like for
those types of songs, we always try to set challenges
(09:24):
for ourselves. But for that song and some other songs specifically,
we try to make the catchiest song we can with
the lowest way we can. It sounds so ridiculous, but like,
you know, you have to like set challenges like that
for yourselves, right, and that's where like creativity is born
for us. But yeah, so all the songs literally on
(09:45):
this EP, like they all like I take great pride
in that every single song has an identity just from
the instrumentals, right, So before Dahler even touches the songs, right,
all of them instrumentally they have like their own thing.
So that's what we do in terms of writing. The
lower tunings just so happens to be you know, what's in.
(10:08):
That's just what keeps us interested and keeps our interests
peaked right now.
Speaker 3 (10:12):
But yeah, so that's what we do.
Speaker 5 (10:14):
Arrangement wise, we're very like pop structured in that sense,
you know, verse, chorus, versus chorus, repeated sections, you know,
your nasty breakdown, you.
Speaker 3 (10:22):
Know the good stuff.
Speaker 5 (10:24):
But yeah, so like all these songs, you know, we
definitely arrange and compose the best that we can and
then we you know, let Thallia look at these songs and.
Speaker 3 (10:35):
Let her touch it. How she how she does.
Speaker 1 (10:39):
Anthalia? How do you? How do you do that?
Speaker 2 (10:43):
So this EP was like my favorite writing experience of
all time. The challenge for me was that all the
instrumentals were written before they even knew that I was
going to be in the band. Initially, I started with
Hioru on the song you now know as Advantage as
(11:04):
a feature, So that was like the original kind of
how I started working with this band. And then that
went really well and I started transitioning to being the
primary vocalist and I had these tracks that it was
a style I had never done before. I've never screamed
on a recording until I recorded hook line Sync like
(11:27):
that was a first for me. And so you know,
Danny was talking a lot of I have to keep
yourself challenged, and I certainly was. So I took these
tracks and what I liked about it was that the
stuff that Tim and Danny and Zev had written like
made me feel something. So without even having vocals on there,
(11:47):
I knew what the songs were about. So I would
listen to them and I would start picturing the story
or what it was saying in my mind and then
start writing from there. Usually I hearing a song through,
I'll come up with like a melody and I'm like, great,
let's build on that. But for me. The best part
(12:07):
of this was writing with zev. Zev is an awesome
producer and so being in the room with him while
I'm writing these parts and like singing a part for
the first time, and then having him do some quick
production moves to like make it sound like a song
was amazing for my creativity flow. To have him flesh
out the song as I'm writing it, and that really
(12:27):
helped give me direction as I was.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
Going, don't you love that? I don't know how many
producers you've worked with or anything like that, but you know, producers,
they sometimes are the extra member of the band, and
I love when producers can you know, you pitch them
an idea, here's kind of what we're going for, and
they're like okay, and in person over like I don't know,
(12:53):
just sending it off to whoever to do whatever they
want with. There's a nine day difference because now, yes,
they can help you with I'm kind of stuck on
this chorus, what do you think? And yeah, your band
members have opinions, but like a producer can really be
like what if you tried this and you're like, it's
a dumb idea, it'll never work, and then it does work,
and you're like, I love it, I love you. Everything's great.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
Well, even one thing that happened with Zev working remotely,
this was before I had met him in person. I think,
like in this band capacity. I had recorded a demo
and he was like, great, send me the vocal tracks
so that I can mix them in, and so I
sent him just the vocals, and things hadn't been I
(13:34):
think the placement got off when I was sending him
the vocal tracks, and so he placed vocals differently in
the demo that he sent back to me than I
had originally intended for them to be, and we ended
up sticking with that. It was just sort of like
a happy accident of he heard something that I didn't.
I think what we actually did was we took half
in half. So we used half his idea and half
my idea, and we took this half and half that. Honestly,
(13:57):
would somebody hearing it be like, wow, that's a really
interesting thing with the did that? Probably not, but like
it was fun for us, and it was again just
a happy accident that happened, and.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
You guys love it. So it all worked out. Guitar players,
what what was your input with this producer. Did you
guys go back and forth like with her? Or like
what what what'd you guys do?
Speaker 3 (14:20):
So I'll take the reins on this one, so if
you don't mind.
Speaker 5 (14:27):
So Zev is local to Philly here, so whenever he's
not on tour, he's home. He were always bugging right
to like find time, like, hey, let's get in a room.
Speaker 3 (14:38):
Let's call Tim.
Speaker 5 (14:40):
That's right, it's all right, man, I don't think I
got anything, but let's you know, let's figure it out.
Speaker 3 (14:46):
We get into a room, call up Tim. All right,
this is what we're working on. And usually.
Speaker 5 (14:52):
I'm surprised most times myself, like hey, what does come out?
Speaker 3 (14:57):
Is? You know a lot better than I thought it was.
Speaker 5 (14:59):
So we have like a lot of different methods, if
you will, about like writing guitar parts. But Zev also
does this thing where he works a lot with midi instruments,
so he was just midi out of riff kind of
like it's like the adverse right this time around, how
you know how like guitar guitar players would just midi
(15:20):
out like a drum part and we're like, all right,
drummer play this.
Speaker 3 (15:23):
He's like, all right, I'm gonna mediouto and guitar. You
guys play this, were like.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
Uh okay, a little bit of a challenge.
Speaker 5 (15:30):
Yeah yeah, so yeah, so not all songs are like that,
but some of them are. And yeah, you know it
keeps Tim and I on our toes for sure. But
if that's not the case, you know, we usually like, hey,
like we can switch this and that to make it
a little more human less MIDI you know, medi like.
Speaker 3 (15:50):
But yeah, that's.
Speaker 5 (15:51):
Usually the the course of action, the how most things are,
most ideas that are kind of created.
Speaker 3 (15:58):
You know, I just had a to Zev's house. We
sit down, We called Tim put on South Park in
the background.
Speaker 5 (16:06):
You know, I just you know, yeah, we catch a
vibe and we just we just write and you know,
see what we do. You know, we can be spending
like three hours on something and just not use it
because you know we're like, all right, well we chase
that dragon.
Speaker 3 (16:16):
It isn't what we're looking for.
Speaker 1 (16:19):
But okay, is there a main songwriter for the band
or is everybody contribute? Pretty equally different answers across all
my interviews, so just figured out I ask you guys
as well.
Speaker 3 (16:33):
Yeah, I would say we all contribute evenly for sure.
Speaker 5 (16:38):
You know, having someone like Zev is definitely priceless because
he kind of has like an outside outlook and same thing.
Speaker 3 (16:46):
So like, if Zev has a demo right he's feeling
strongly about, he brings it to us.
Speaker 5 (16:50):
Same thing. We all kind of pitching ideas for arrangement
composition right to see like what works or this idea
is cooler, you know that type of thing. So we
all kind of pitch ideas and kind of, you know,
make it into one song and if we attempt to
make it all cohesive.
Speaker 1 (17:09):
Perfect.
Speaker 4 (17:10):
Hey, this is Mikey from the band Snot and you
are listening to the Kevin Powell podcast at iHeartRadio right now.
Speaker 1 (17:17):
I'm talking to Chiaru and these guys have a new
EP out right now. And Thaliat you mentioned something about,
you know, going into it with like a story. Now,
what about like the subject and inspiration behind this EP.
I'm sure you had full reigns on this.
Speaker 2 (17:33):
So the EP kind of came out the whole thing
being about a toxic cycle. And what I like about
it is that each song, although the whole thing is
about a toxic toxic cycle, it ended up kind of
being a full story with each song. If you kind
of listen straight through, you get different parts of that cycle.
(17:58):
But what I really appreciate about it is that each
song is not necessarily written about the same thing. So, like,
there are some songs about a relationship, a toxic relationship cycle,
and that is something that you can get stuck in
and then have a lot to say about. But there's
a song that's about like the toxic relationship with like working.
So Life or Death is actually about like I was
(18:21):
sick and tired of working, and I was like, am
I just doing this every single day until I die?
Working all the time and I'm never winning and you
can't get ahead, and and like that's what that song
is about, is I was just sick and tired of working.
Hook Line Sync is about, you know, it is a
different perspective of the same toxic relationship of this time
instead of being you know, being the abuser any relationship,
(18:44):
essentially being the person who is manipulating and perpetrating the
sort of toxicity. And when I wrote all of these songs,
I again, I heard them and I wrote about what
I was hearing. So Project date was when I was
really stuck on and one day I was in the car.
I was like, let me just put the damo on
(19:05):
no pressure. See if somebody comes to me and I
it made me think of this dream I used to have,
like a recurring dream where I was just running away
from something all the time and I didn't know what
I was running from or where I was going. And
that's I mean, that's the words of the song. But
and I let you so I would wrote all these songs,
(19:26):
and then the guys were like, so this is the
order that we were what we wrote them in. And
when they put them in the order that they had
intended them to be in, which I didn't really know,
the story came out kind of full circle, with Vantage
being the sort of break free song at the end,
Ruined being the turning point that that point in the
(19:49):
cycle where you were questioning what you're doing and begging
yourself to kind of be free of it. You know,
life death is the part where you get mad. Hook
Line Sync is the start of it where you get
hooked on this cycle. It ended up being like straight
through the cycle, which I think is a testament really
to the guy's storytelling through their instrumentals. You know, like
(20:13):
I heard their instrumentals, and I knew what they were saying,
and then I put those words on it, and it
came out full circle the way that each person had
intended when every song was written, at every stage of
the process.
Speaker 1 (20:27):
I love it some now, truth be told, I haven't
listened front the back yet. I haven't had time, but
because we just met. But now that I know that,
when I go in, I'll have this subconscious like, okay,
actually listen to the lyrics, actually figure out what the
story is, and actually remember what she said. So thank
you for sharing that totally.
Speaker 2 (20:46):
Yeah, let us know if that comes through to you too.
Speaker 1 (20:50):
Sure. Also, you and I have to collab on hating
work because no offense to certain people. But it's every
You're right, it's every day. You gotta be kidding me,
all right, I'm not gonna ran for five.
Speaker 2 (21:05):
Minutes and granted like I wrote that song because that's
how it was feeling at the time. I was like,
this sucks. There's no end in sight. I'm twenty three,
like it's only gonna get worse from here, like, oh
my god. And I remember, like I was, I was
in a spiral, and there was one day when I
had a good day, you know, like the sun was shining,
the birds were chirping, and I was like, guys, maybe
it's not that deep, Like maybe it's not only life
(21:27):
or death. Whoa so bit of drama in there, But
that's art baby, all.
Speaker 1 (21:34):
Right, hands up? If you work multiple jobs, yeah, shouldn't
be that way, shouldn't be the norm. But whatever. So
if someone has never heard of you guys, and they're
just now learning of you guys, how would you describe
your sound to them? What's gonna draw them in?
Speaker 2 (21:53):
I always say that we are pop metal and that
we like getting heavy. I usually talk to people that
don't listen to metal, and so when somebody who doesn't
listen to metals like you're in a metal band, I say,
it's pop metal. Okay, we've got melodies. You can sing along.
You know, I'm not yelling at you the whole time.
You can sing along. But we do like to throw down.
It's sure a.
Speaker 1 (22:12):
Camp you know, what about guitar players.
Speaker 4 (22:19):
I also work with a bunch of coworkers that don't
listen to metal, So I always lead, we're a metal band. Well,
we got things you can sing too, and things you
can get mad to.
Speaker 3 (22:32):
Yeah, for me. Anytime someone asks, they're like, oh, you're
in a band. I'm like yeah, You're like, what kind
of news do you play? I'm like metal. They're like,
oh okay. I'm like, but it's like not metal, it's
like catchy metal. Okay, it's like heavy, poppy metal.
Speaker 1 (22:47):
You're like one of the Metallica's right, exactly.
Speaker 4 (22:51):
Number one answer.
Speaker 1 (22:52):
Okay, wonderful. Now we have time and I've never been
able to do this yet, So first interview for you,
and first time I get to do this. Who's ready
for some actually off the wall fun questions? I am
all right. So I've been working with iHeart for twelve
thirteen years, right out of high school and now I'm thirty,
so whatever. I have to give credit to the people
(23:14):
I heard this from. I work with the ECHL, which
is a hockey league directly under the NHL over on
the East Coast, and this is from the Wheeling Nailors,
and they always asked this question to their players, and
I was like, you know what, I'm stealing it. So
too bad, I'm stealing it. We're gonna go around the
room here, who is the most famous person in your phone?
And if you called them would they answer, can.
Speaker 2 (23:39):
You go first.
Speaker 4 (23:44):
Man, famous person?
Speaker 1 (23:46):
Well disclosure, I did not prep them with these questions beforehand.
This is all fresh, so this is good.
Speaker 4 (23:52):
Shall I go down the contact list?
Speaker 3 (23:55):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (23:56):
Get three quints?
Speaker 4 (23:57):
Oh you know what right off the top there on
an I would say, kind of a hometown hero kind
of thing. Is Adrian Oropeza from After the Burial?
Speaker 1 (24:09):
Oh wait, we met a long plays based now right?
Speaker 2 (24:13):
Yep?
Speaker 4 (24:13):
Based in After the Burial?
Speaker 1 (24:15):
Yeah, I met him at see this is a great
conversation starter. I met him at incarceration last year and
he is sweetheart. Actually interviewed him real quick too. He's awesome,
so heck, yeah.
Speaker 4 (24:28):
He's amazing. He's helped me out on a school project before.
Actually we met when I was I think mid high school.
I just was in the front row on the barricades
of After the Burial show they're opening up. He saw
me going hard. I just met him at the merch
table and then the rest is history.
Speaker 1 (24:51):
If you were to call him right now, what do
you answer?
Speaker 4 (24:53):
Ooh? That is.
Speaker 5 (24:57):
What?
Speaker 1 (24:57):
Do you have any idea what the number is?
Speaker 4 (25:00):
Yeah? I think maybe sixty forty on maybe answering.
Speaker 1 (25:04):
Okay, we're not doing it. I'm just it's just part
of the question.
Speaker 4 (25:07):
Well, well we'll find out later.
Speaker 2 (25:10):
Danny you go.
Speaker 4 (25:13):
Jeevez?
Speaker 5 (25:15):
Definitely, I don't know anybody, and I'm sure as hell
don't have numbers.
Speaker 3 (25:22):
I'm more of a social media guy. But I would
have to say Zev. I mean, Zev is the most
famous person I know. And if I.
Speaker 5 (25:29):
Call, he better pick up, pick up, pick up the
phone call for your best friend, dude, Like.
Speaker 1 (25:36):
Having to produce a ray to go is not a
bad thing. So that's fine, right right?
Speaker 5 (25:40):
Yeah, So he's definitely the most famous, So.
Speaker 2 (25:45):
I think he would laugh if he heard me say this.
But I think one of the most famous people on
my phone is Casey Soyke plays bass in Harm's Way,
and I don't I think he would pick up. I
think he would pick up.
Speaker 1 (25:57):
How do you know him?
Speaker 2 (25:59):
I work in a music venue here in Richmond, and
arms Way came through and we became friends through music stuff,
just both being in bands.
Speaker 1 (26:08):
You know, isn't that cool? See, no one ever thought
I asked this question. But it was fun, didn't you
guys have fun? I had fun? Any guilty pleasure artists
meaning you know, maybe it's not an artist that everyone
looks at you and you're like, yeah, they probably listen
to them, like I have an obituary tank on, but
(26:28):
most people wouldn't believe that. I like listening to Billy Ocean.
He has some part, he has some hits.
Speaker 3 (26:37):
He does.
Speaker 4 (26:38):
Hmm, Tim, let's go reverse order for this one. Need
a second.
Speaker 2 (26:45):
It's the way you phrase that question is interesting because
artists the people wouldn't expect me to listen to. I
think are the metal bands I listened to like I
feel like I don't give off a super metal band vibe,
so like bands like Nails and Harm's Way, the hardcore stuff.
I think people are gonna see me and be like
(27:05):
are you sure?
Speaker 1 (27:07):
And just like that because she mentioned Nails or Allya
mentioned Nails. We're best friends. Because every time every time
one of my clips so a couple of my clips
from Loud in Life, I'm wearing this nail shirt and
ninety percent of the comments are like Nails mentioned Nails shirt.
I'm like, yes, I like Nails. They're all of my
favorite bands.
Speaker 2 (27:25):
Anyways, I think, as somebody who like lifts and goes
to the gym, Nails a great band to like Nails.
Simon sick bag, like the crazy ones that helps you. Danny.
Speaker 5 (27:40):
For me, I would say the most. It's not guilty
for me, but right other people would probably consider it. Oh,
I love Michael Bolton. Michael Bolton is the man.
Speaker 3 (27:52):
I love Michael Bolton.
Speaker 1 (27:53):
So okay, why what do you mean?
Speaker 2 (27:56):
Why?
Speaker 3 (27:57):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (27:57):
His?
Speaker 5 (27:58):
If if I had the chance just to hear them
sing me to sleep every night about I absolutely would.
Speaker 3 (28:03):
I would love that. I would love that.
Speaker 2 (28:06):
I did not see that.
Speaker 3 (28:09):
I love Michael Bolton. What can I say?
Speaker 2 (28:14):
It leaves you, Timmy.
Speaker 4 (28:17):
I think I've got to give Ali your credit on
this one. She went me on to Sabrina Carpenter. More recently,
I've been digging that people don't expect that from me,
but that means brisso come on.
Speaker 2 (28:30):
I mean, Espresso came out when we were in Philly
filming our music videos last year, and that like since then,
it's been stuck in our heads.
Speaker 1 (28:41):
Kevin has been down ever since shaken Espresso from Duncan.
Speaker 2 (28:46):
I haven't tried it. I haven't tried it. I live
too far south to have Duncans around here. You gotta
like find a Duncan.
Speaker 4 (28:52):
I live like three doors down from one and Unfortunately
I still have not tried it.
Speaker 1 (28:58):
All right, listen, you can't say you like Sabrina Carpenter
and not try this training. Now you're gonna get it.
You're gonna try it, and you're gonna go it's pretty good,
and then you'll never get it again. That's what I did.
But it's limited, so go get it. Duncan sponsor me. Anyways.
What I'm gonna do now is go back to regular
programming with my questions because zoom only gives you so along. Anyways,
(29:21):
the question I asked toward the end of all my
interviews if you had any advice for bands just starting out?
What advice would that be? Maybe they are just starting
out and they're just a bunch of friends making music together,
and maybe they're gonna do a show or two. Maybe
they've been around for a couple of years and they
(29:42):
just want to break through to the next part in life.
I asked this question every band rather they're just starting
out themselves. I've talked to like the Offspring, I've talked
to like all kinds of bands in between, so I
get all kinds of different answers. What's your advice.
Speaker 2 (30:00):
Before it tim all?
Speaker 4 (30:02):
Right? I'd say find each other's strengths. Everybody in the band,
find their strengths and exploit it lovingly. I like to
make fun of Thali, but she's on her phone all
the time, so she can see things pop up faster
than I can. So we let her handle the online
(30:24):
stuff for the most part. So if you've ever seen
a comment come back from the band account, it's probably Thalia.
She's got the bubbly personality as you probably seen today.
Speaker 1 (30:35):
So yeah, well, yeah, we're best friends now and everything.
Speaker 2 (30:41):
Yeah, just like that, I think, I think definitely take
your time. It's easy because social media is so fast paced.
It's easy to like get caught up and be like, allright,
let's put something out, let's do this, next thing, next thing.
But and I definitely am guilty of this, and so
it's good to have bandmates that balance you out. Take
your time and put together a project that you are
(31:04):
really proud of. Make sure that in every way, the
way it looks, the way it sounds, the way that
you promote it, make sure you're proud of like every step,
everything that's gone into it, and then take your time
when you put it out, you know, let it sit
out there, let people take their time to find it,
because even overnight successes are not overnight. You know, the
(31:25):
best new artists that want that wins Grammy's. I mean,
they've been working for ten years, so you know, take
your time, let things, let things similar, let people find them,
and just make sure make sure you promote yourself. It
can be tough as a small artist and a little
bit embarrassing sometimes to know I'm in a band, I'm
in a band, I'm going to bed, But you know,
you have to be your biggest champion, so just it's
(31:46):
easier to promote yourself when you're proud of your project too.
Speaker 1 (31:49):
So very well said all around. Do you guys have
any final words for fans that either you just made
or maybe people you've known for a long time. Final
words at all?
Speaker 2 (32:01):
Thank you. Everybody that has listened to us and has
watched our videos or liked us on Instagram or comment
did thank you very much. That means a lot to
us being a small band. Every view, every like, every comment,
every share like actually makes a huge difference. If you've
just listened to us for the first time, Thanks for
taking your time to listen to us like we genuinely
(32:24):
appreciate every single person that supports us in any way.
Speaker 1 (32:28):
Follow Yeah, Danny, Tim, appreciate a little bit of your
time today. I'm gonna talk to you here in a
little bit off air. All right, guys, that was Hiaru.
They have a brand new EP out right now. It's
called Advantage, and you know, as Thalia said, there's a
story in there, so you really need to listen and
get into it. And I mean, hey, if you like
pop and you like metal, well you're gonna like pop
(32:48):
metal and it's Shiaru. Appreciate everyone tuning into this episode
of podcast. You know, it's awesome that you guys do.
I love doing this, so thank you. We'll see you
guys next time.
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