March 11, 2024 • 16 mins
Knox came by the studio to talk to Angelina about his single 'Not The 1975'! He has been going viral on TikTok and is ready to go on tour! Knox is working on a lot of new music for fans so stay tuned!
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It's the new Hitlist. You're numberone for New Music Discovery. I'm Angelina
with my boy Knox. Hello,finally in person, Yes, face to
face. I'm so stoked. Justdid an amazing performance for us. Now
we got you in the studio.How you feeling I'm feeling good. I'm
feeling good. I'm working a lotand it's been a blast, so I
feel like a million bucks. Hey. I thought about you recently because I
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find I know you're a big Marblefan. Okay, and I finally like
watched the majority of them. Ohyou did? Okay? What majority though?
What's that? Because Okay, whenI first started watching them, it's
like like any Marble fan would bemad at me. Like I saw ry
Man three, never seen the firsttwo. Okay, that's that's crazy.
I see Man two, you neverseen the first one? Because I would
just be with people that'd be like, oh, we're gonna go watch this
movie. I'm like, okay,guess I gotta tag along. I liked
all of them, of course,of course, but no, I literally
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watched all of them. I thinkI just didn't watch like the TV series.
Oh okay, that's fine. TheTV series, there's a lot going
on and all that. It's alot to maintain. It's so much.
Now. I was like in bedfor like two weeks straight just watching him.
Yeah, I just grinded it.I feel like I watched them recently.
I made my girlfriend watch them withme. Did she like it?
I mean she said she did.We had a we had a crazy snowstorm
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in Nashville, so we're locked insidefor literally six straight days, like because
yeah, Nashville has no idea howto deal with snow, so if it
snows, everything is just shut down. It's just over. Yeah, I
mean we would probably be the sameway. Yeah. One thing, it's
like fifty degrees were like blow freezingtubs exactly. Who's your favorite Marvel character?
Oh, I mean Spider Man,it's gotta be Yeah, that's wine.
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Uh, Peter Parker, dude,everyone just like cause you know everything
that he I feel like, Ilike give Peter Parker energy something. People
always say that to me all thetime. So yeah, I just yeah,
I love him. I found likeTom Holland. Yeah, yeah,
I love Tom. I mean,to be honest, I'm such a nerd.
I like love them all for differentreasons, you know, Like I
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love all of them, I can't. I really can't pick one because like
I grew up with Toby, right, but then like Andrew is like awesome,
and Tom Holland is like Iron Man'slittle boy. Dude, I love
I love them right, and Ifeel they'll have different personalities exactly. So
it was a little more dark,so charming. You just dropped to me
myself and your eyes. Yeah,fire first of the music video was so
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cute. What was a concept forthat? We just wanted to We wanted
it to feel like, you know, we were on a like first date,
you know, in a place thatwas way too fancy for me to
be because I'm like not a fancyperson or anything like that at all.
So yeah, we just went uncomfortablefeel like you along thereun I was like
eating the cake and throwing it allover me. Yeah, it was great.
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It was a fun times so cute. Tell me about making this record,
dude, it was actually really awesome. I got to write it,
so I read it with these twoguys, Dan Swank and David Hodges.
And Dan is a good friend ofmine, but David is somebody that I've
like. He's a songwriter I've lookedup to for a long time, like
I've been a fan forever. Likehe wrote songs like because of You by
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Kelly Clarkson, he wrote after Glowby Ed Sheer and like yeah yeah,
so he's like yeah, he's likeboys with Ed. So I was like,
okay, I got to go inthere and make sure I'm like on
my A game with this guy.Yeah, and then we went in.
We wrote the song in like fortyfive minutes. He took me out to
lunch after it was just like yeah, it was just like great. Like
I've had a lot of sessions whereyou go in with these big songwriters and
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you know, you get told thesongwriters get told like oh this is this
new kid knocks and he's really goodand whatever. But you know, just
like anybody else, I have mydays where I'm not really good at writing
songs, right, and like youknow, I have better days than other
and whatever, and uh, thatday I was, I was. I
was pretty good that day. Yeah. He needed to get that day myself.
Yeah yeah, yeah, because youwere you a song writing songs first,
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Yeah, yeah I did. Yeah. I was writing songs for like
professionally technically for like a year,I guess before I did my own stuff.
So yeah, yeah, it wasawesome. Man. What made you
finally like make that switch or atleast I guess go for it, you
know, being in the front ofthe camera now, I mean yeah,
it was kind of like it waskind of like an accident, to be
honest. I made a bunch ofsongs that, uh I thought were sick,
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and I recorded them, and Iwas like, you know, we
should get these by somebody, andthen I showed them to my dear manager
here, and uh showed him tohim, and then showed them to my
publishing company and they were like,you need to just put these out yourself,
and so okay, so they gaveyou that passed because sometimes, like
a lot of stories of like theteam's always like I don't know, You're
like, yea, I'm gonna doit anyway. No, they were the
ones that were like, I reallythink you should do this, and uh,
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you know, I just never thoughtI'd be the you know, like
you said, in front of thecamera, Like I never thought I would
be the person like making tiktoks orthings like that. I just that just
never seemed like something I would do. And then yeah, I mean,
but once you have one song gothen you you don't really have a choice.
Yeah, you just have to bethrown into it. So yeah,
that's kind of what happened, andit just snowballed from there and you know,
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now we're here. So yeah,let's talk about tiktoks. Like what
was exactly like kind of becoming aviral sensation? Yeah, like, how
was the first video of that bluelevel? What was that day? Like,
I mean, it's weird, dude, It's really it's really weird because
you know, online you have millions, like especially during that time, literally
millions of people hitting you up andwhatever, and you know, all these
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things are going, but then yougo to a gas station and nobody has
any idea who you are. ObviouslyI don't have Yeah, you don't have
the song sneakers due, but it'slike, yeah, he's like on what
pup? But no, it wascool. I was on a family vacation
when it happened, and you know, that whole week was when I started
making the tiktoks because like the fourthone I ever made was the one that
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went you know, did like threemillion views whatever, and uh, the
whole week. So I have soI have twenty six first cousins, right,
I have a lot of cousins likethat number. Yeah, yeah,
that's crazy six. And they're alllike my brothers and sisters. I love
them all to death, like they'rethey're the best. But that whole week,
you know, I'm twenty four whenthis is happening and I'm making tiktoks
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and my older cousins are like,bro, you're you're making tiktoks. Bro,
Like, what are you doing?Are you? Yeah? Like giving
me, you know, a bunchof crap, and uh, I just
kept saying. I was like,one of these is gonna go. And
then finally when it did, thelast day of that vacation, I was
like walking around the house show likefamily meeting. Yeah yeah, I was
like, yeah, I try totell you and so yeah, it was
it was funny. Oh that's dope. So were they kind of like did
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they know you were taking music seriouslyor was it like at that moment they
were like, oh dang, well. I think that was when so I
had signed a publishing deal to bea songwriter, like maybe two months before
this had happened, so they knewthat. I was like, that's what
I did. Like they knew thatwas my official job now, which was
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sick, but still, I mean, when you're a twenty four year old
dude making tiktoks with your little sister, like they're like, bro, come
on, but yeah, they Imean they obviously they always thought it was
cool. And like, my family'salways been like so supportive of me trying,
you know, putting myself out thereand trying to make this happen.
So yeah, and now they think, you know, I was on MTV
once and now they think I'm like, now they think I can't go out
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in public. Yeah, it's hilarious, it's fun, right. So is
it kind of recently though, thatyou decided to like go take music like
that seriously? Like or were youalways doing music like since you're a kid.
No. No, I didn't evenstart doing and like writing stuff or
anything like that until I was likenineteen. Yeah, I went like I
grew up like I was like abig sports guy, like I played basketball
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and stuff in high school. Andyeah, but I always knew, like
they get the Jodan T shirt,Yeah yeah, right, Yeah, I
always knew that I could like singhigher than most guys. Like I wasn't
good, like I didn't think Iwas a good singer back then, but
I definitely could, like I gota little something. Yeah, yeah,
yeah. I remember like Photographed byCheering came out and I could sing it,
and I was like, most guyscan't sing this, you know what
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I mean? And so yeah,when I got to college, I learned
how to play guitar and it justkind of snowballed, and I was like,
I think I could figure this outif I tried. So what were
we going to college for. Iwas gonna be a teacher. I was
gonna be a history teacher. ButI don't know anything about history, which
is great, really literally nothing atall. Did you ever watch Drunk History?
Uh? To be honest, no, I know what it is,
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but I never really watched it.Yeah yeah, funny, good starter or
two. Like I've seen there's oneepisode I think that I saw on YouTube
of like I think it's Brendan Yurietelling the history of Fallout Boy, I
think, and it's like it's liketrunk Hit or maybe it's I don't know,
maybe I'm maybe I'm crazy, butsomething like that. I've seen something
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like that. I don't know he'swatched it. It's good people literally just
get dragging, like retell history story. I'm like, this is not history
shit, we tat right. Anyways, I'm still Good at being Alone.
The EP Yeah, which is likea perfect follow up from How Did This
a Girl? On Seven Songs?Tell me the difference between these two projects,
dude, It was so much funmaking I'm So Good At Being Alone
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because it was it was kind oflike the project that I always wanted to
make, Like you know, welike How to Lose a Girl and Seven
Songs was this very like cohesive alllike kind of similar sounds and whatever.
It was. It was like avery like cohesive project, right, and
then when we did I'm So Goodat Being Alone, it was kind of
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like, Okay, how far canwe go? Like, you know,
we have songs like man Down andLove Letter that are full blown, like
on rock songs, full blown likehuge drums and huge guitars whatever. And
then on the other side we haveI'm So Good at being Alone, and
we have miss When You Miss Meand these other songs that are like we
kind of just like took How toLose a Girl and Seven Songs and then
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we just like expanded it on bothsides and so yeah, it was cool,
just kind of like making the thingsthat I always wanted to make.
But it still felt like, youknow, it's like I'm still gonna being
alone. Love letter can not soundany different, but somehow it still felt
like me, Like it didn't feelweird, you know. So yeah,
we just like kind of we're tryingto see how far we could push the
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boundary, you know. And evenhow was that for you, Like,
you know, starting as a songwriterand like writing music for other people and
then like switching to having like allthis creative control, like what your sound
wants to sound like. Yeah,I mean, honestly, it's very like
it's very like freeing, you knowwhat I mean. There's like no rules
once once you're in the driver's seat. You know, as a songwriter,
you kind of have to you know, you have to make sure that the
artists. You know, you're,like I said, you're kind of just
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following these rules. And when you'rethe one in charge now, it's like,
oh no, let's do this andsee and if it works great and
if it doesn't work. You know, was it easy to adjust to doing
that or were you kind of justlike going crazy? You're like oh,
I could do all this a littlebit of both. Like it was.
It was definitely uh hard for aminute, because once you start making only
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songs for you, it's like running. It's like I don't even know what
to say at this point, LikeI was going into sessions and like before
I had properly gone on tour andgot to kind of like live the life
of these other songs out, Iwas like going into sessions and I was
like, I've written two hundred andfifty knock songs in the past like three
months. I'm like, I haveno idea what to even make, So
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that that part was like difficult,But touring helps with that when you go
on the road and you get tolike see what songs work with what like
the crowds and you know kind ofwhat people like. So yeah, yeah,
it was. It was it's likean odd it's an odd thing,
but once you get back from tour, it's very inspiring because then you're like,
I need to make this because thisgoes really well live. And you
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know, speaking of a touring,your first ever headline tour sold out.
Yeah, yeah, I feel likeyou're just doing one eighties everywhere because it's
like from being behind the scenes,like not trying to be seen to like
not a single ticket, right,It's crazy. It's absolutely mind blowing.
What's happening when you like first realizethat it's all sold out. I mean
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I was hoping it would sell out, but it was like how fast it
sold out. I mean, likewe sold out the first half of the
tour that we that we did thetickets, like six of the nine cities
sold out in like two hours.It was like a medium And then we
just announced the West Coast ones andwe announced the tickets on Friday. It's
Tuesday now, and I think SanFrancisco is the only one that hasn't come
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on guys. Yeah, yeah,So I mean it's it's crazy. It's
so cool to see people, like, especially being someone who started on TikTok,
Like it's kind of hard to keepthat momentum, you know, right,
and so you know, I justfeel super lucky that people have like
connected to the music that much thatthey want to come see it live.
And like I feel like every songjust gets bigger and bigger, and yeah,
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it's thanks to the people that youknow, listen to it. So
yeah, yeah, that's awesome comingback to the Bay this April. Yeah,
yeah, April sixteenth. Yeah,I keep for like messing yeah sixteen.
What can fans expect at a show, especially on this story, I
mean, just well, when we'regonna play a couple of new songs which
I'm super excited about, and justlike come ready to have a good time,
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Like the show is so much fun. It's such a blast, and
like they're I really do feel likewe did a good job of you know,
because it's the same set list asthe first half, and so it's
like, I don't know, Ifeel like we did a good job of
keeping the energy and it's just likea fun show and so get ready to
come like with all your friends andjust have a blast and to scream and
maybe cry at some point, Likeit's great all the things. Yeah,
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yeah, it's a blast, andI feel like it's the fun album toe
like that pop rock sound is likealmost like the best to like You're right,
You're it's so much fun live.It's so much fun live. The
songs are all meant for the liveshow, right. Every song I make
is like if a song is notgonna go well live, it's like then
why are we even making it,you know, right, right right,
I know we're still running not thenineteen seventy five. I know, I
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appreciate you on a hype of thatsong. Are you kind of like no,
yeah, I mean I definitely am. It's dude, it's a song
that's like changing my life, Likeevery single day there's something new that happens,
and it's just, you know,I'm from the middle of nowhere,
Ohio, so to be this faraway from home and like talking to you
about this and you know, it'sreal. It's crazier every day and I'm
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just I'm super grateful to be here. It's such a good one. I
love how like everyone was accepting ofit too, Like, yeah, because
obviously do a lot of attention fromthe nineteen seventy five fans. Yeah.
Yeah, everyone was like this isamazing, thankfully, Like the internet has
actually been really nice. But today, so I was on the phone for
the day, I know. SoI was on the phone my girlfriend this
morning and she was telling me.She was like, don't get on Reddit
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and look up your name and notthe night she was like, don't do
it. So naturally, I'm likeI read it. Reddit is not as
nice as Instagram and TikTok has been. But it was funny though I thought,
no, I love all the Easteggs in that song too, thank
you, but they all like onpurpose or so they all were, except
for the one that I get themost of is everybody is like even the
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she said is an Easter Egg,and like me and my buddy who wrote
it together, were like, We'relike, oh yeah, we def definitely
did that on purpose, Like that'slike, oh my gosh, like how
did we even think of that whenlike totally, But then everybody was like
it's so smart and we were justlike, yeah, dude, for sure,
Oh god, so do we lovethe record? So coming back to
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the Bay in April, what isnext for you? Because you said you
are working, are you in thesame what's going on? Oh? Yeah,
we just did Uh we just finishedup a bunch of songs in LA
last week and we have we haveso many songs that we are sitting and
I cannot wait. Like we're notgonna We're not gonna stop and like not
put out music. We're just gonnakeep dropping single and single and single and
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maybe hopefully it like wraps into analbum. Maybe, but yeah, right
now, we're just like making thebest songs that we can possibly make and
putting them out and just seeing whathappens. Not necessarily like an album mode,
but you are. Yeah, we'rejust making music. Yeah, we're
just in like we're just in makewhatever we want and just make the best
music that we can from people.And so it's been a blast. But
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twenty twenty four is gonna be crazy. I have like so many I have
like so many surprises like secrets thatI'm like so excited to tell the world
about. It's gonna be really reallycool. I'm excited. Know you can't
like give us too much, Butlike, have you been thinking about going
into other genres or are we stayingwith the pop rock sound? I feel
like you kind of branch out alittle bit in almost all your music.
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Yeah, I'm like, which way'sagain, Let's let's just say we have
a lot of songs that are unlikeanything that I've ever put out before.
Fans definitely, yeah, totally allright, Oh yeah, we're definitely we're
just like you know, I liketo just see how, like I said,
how far we can push it.And so we've definitely uh stepped out
of some comfort zones that I thinkare fun, that I think people are
gonna enjoy. I can't wait.Thanks so much for stopping buys everything else
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you want to tell your fans.Stick around. Twenty twenty four is going
to be absolutely crazy, and likeI said, I have so many surprises
for you. It's it's gonna beawesome. So just thanks for being here
and stay a little longer, Ipromise. Let go
It's the new Hitlist. You're numberone for New Music Discovery. I'm Angelina
with my boy Knox. Hello,finally in person, Yes, face to
face. I'm so stoked. Justdid an amazing performance for us. Now
we got you in the studio.How you feeling I'm feeling good. I'm
feeling good. I'm working a lotand it's been a blast, so I
feel like a million bucks. Hey. I thought about you recently because I
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find I know you're a big Marblefan. Okay, and I finally like
watched the majority of them. Ohyou did? Okay? What majority though?
What's that? Because Okay, whenI first started watching them, it's
like like any Marble fan would bemad at me. Like I saw ry
Man three, never seen the firsttwo. Okay, that's that's crazy.
I see Man two, you neverseen the first one? Because I would
just be with people that'd be like, oh, we're gonna go watch this
movie. I'm like, okay,guess I gotta tag along. I liked
all of them, of course,of course, but no, I literally
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watched all of them. I thinkI just didn't watch like the TV series.
Oh okay, that's fine. TheTV series, there's a lot going
on and all that. It's alot to maintain. It's so much.
Now. I was like in bedfor like two weeks straight just watching him.
Yeah, I just grinded it.I feel like I watched them recently.
I made my girlfriend watch them withme. Did she like it?
I mean she said she did.We had a we had a crazy snowstorm
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in Nashville, so we're locked insidefor literally six straight days, like because
yeah, Nashville has no idea howto deal with snow, so if it
snows, everything is just shut down. It's just over. Yeah, I
mean we would probably be the sameway. Yeah. One thing, it's
like fifty degrees were like blow freezingtubs exactly. Who's your favorite Marvel character?
Oh, I mean Spider Man,it's gotta be Yeah, that's wine.
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Uh, Peter Parker, dude,everyone just like cause you know everything
that he I feel like, Ilike give Peter Parker energy something. People
always say that to me all thetime. So yeah, I just yeah,
I love him. I found likeTom Holland. Yeah, yeah,
I love Tom. I mean,to be honest, I'm such a nerd.
I like love them all for differentreasons, you know, Like I
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love all of them, I can't. I really can't pick one because like
I grew up with Toby, right, but then like Andrew is like awesome,
and Tom Holland is like Iron Man'slittle boy. Dude, I love
I love them right, and Ifeel they'll have different personalities exactly. So
it was a little more dark,so charming. You just dropped to me
myself and your eyes. Yeah,fire first of the music video was so
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cute. What was a concept forthat? We just wanted to We wanted
it to feel like, you know, we were on a like first date,
you know, in a place thatwas way too fancy for me to
be because I'm like not a fancyperson or anything like that at all.
So yeah, we just went uncomfortablefeel like you along thereun I was like
eating the cake and throwing it allover me. Yeah, it was great.
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It was a fun times so cute. Tell me about making this record,
dude, it was actually really awesome. I got to write it,
so I read it with these twoguys, Dan Swank and David Hodges.
And Dan is a good friend ofmine, but David is somebody that I've
like. He's a songwriter I've lookedup to for a long time, like
I've been a fan forever. Likehe wrote songs like because of You by
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Kelly Clarkson, he wrote after Glowby Ed Sheer and like yeah yeah,
so he's like yeah, he's likeboys with Ed. So I was like,
okay, I got to go inthere and make sure I'm like on
my A game with this guy.Yeah, and then we went in.
We wrote the song in like fortyfive minutes. He took me out to
lunch after it was just like yeah, it was just like great. Like
I've had a lot of sessions whereyou go in with these big songwriters and
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you know, you get told thesongwriters get told like oh this is this
new kid knocks and he's really goodand whatever. But you know, just
like anybody else, I have mydays where I'm not really good at writing
songs, right, and like youknow, I have better days than other
and whatever, and uh, thatday I was, I was. I
was pretty good that day. Yeah. He needed to get that day myself.
Yeah yeah, yeah, because youwere you a song writing songs first,
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Yeah, yeah I did. Yeah. I was writing songs for like
professionally technically for like a year,I guess before I did my own stuff.
So yeah, yeah, it wasawesome. Man. What made you
finally like make that switch or atleast I guess go for it, you
know, being in the front ofthe camera now, I mean yeah,
it was kind of like it waskind of like an accident, to be
honest. I made a bunch ofsongs that, uh I thought were sick,
(03:57):
and I recorded them, and Iwas like, you know, we
should get these by somebody, andthen I showed them to my dear manager
here, and uh showed him tohim, and then showed them to my
publishing company and they were like,you need to just put these out yourself,
and so okay, so they gaveyou that passed because sometimes, like
a lot of stories of like theteam's always like I don't know, You're
like, yea, I'm gonna doit anyway. No, they were the
ones that were like, I reallythink you should do this, and uh,
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you know, I just never thoughtI'd be the you know, like
you said, in front of thecamera, Like I never thought I would
be the person like making tiktoks orthings like that. I just that just
never seemed like something I would do. And then yeah, I mean,
but once you have one song gothen you you don't really have a choice.
Yeah, you just have to bethrown into it. So yeah,
that's kind of what happened, andit just snowballed from there and you know,
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now we're here. So yeah,let's talk about tiktoks. Like what
was exactly like kind of becoming aviral sensation? Yeah, like, how
was the first video of that bluelevel? What was that day? Like,
I mean, it's weird, dude, It's really it's really weird because
you know, online you have millions, like especially during that time, literally
millions of people hitting you up andwhatever, and you know, all these
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things are going, but then yougo to a gas station and nobody has
any idea who you are. ObviouslyI don't have Yeah, you don't have
the song sneakers due, but it'slike, yeah, he's like on what
pup? But no, it wascool. I was on a family vacation
when it happened, and you know, that whole week was when I started
making the tiktoks because like the fourthone I ever made was the one that
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went you know, did like threemillion views whatever, and uh, the
whole week. So I have soI have twenty six first cousins, right,
I have a lot of cousins likethat number. Yeah, yeah,
that's crazy six. And they're alllike my brothers and sisters. I love
them all to death, like they'rethey're the best. But that whole week,
you know, I'm twenty four whenthis is happening and I'm making tiktoks
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and my older cousins are like,bro, you're you're making tiktoks. Bro,
Like, what are you doing?Are you? Yeah? Like giving
me, you know, a bunchof crap, and uh, I just
kept saying. I was like,one of these is gonna go. And
then finally when it did, thelast day of that vacation, I was
like walking around the house show likefamily meeting. Yeah yeah, I was
like, yeah, I try totell you and so yeah, it was
it was funny. Oh that's dope. So were they kind of like did
(06:04):
they know you were taking music seriouslyor was it like at that moment they
were like, oh dang, well. I think that was when so I
had signed a publishing deal to bea songwriter, like maybe two months before
this had happened, so they knewthat. I was like, that's what
I did. Like they knew thatwas my official job now, which was
(06:24):
sick, but still, I mean, when you're a twenty four year old
dude making tiktoks with your little sister, like they're like, bro, come
on, but yeah, they Imean they obviously they always thought it was
cool. And like, my family'salways been like so supportive of me trying,
you know, putting myself out thereand trying to make this happen.
So yeah, and now they think, you know, I was on MTV
once and now they think I'm like, now they think I can't go out
(06:45):
in public. Yeah, it's hilarious, it's fun, right. So is
it kind of recently though, thatyou decided to like go take music like
that seriously? Like or were youalways doing music like since you're a kid.
No. No, I didn't evenstart doing and like writing stuff or
anything like that until I was likenineteen. Yeah, I went like I
grew up like I was like abig sports guy, like I played basketball
(07:09):
and stuff in high school. Andyeah, but I always knew, like
they get the Jodan T shirt,Yeah yeah, right, Yeah, I
always knew that I could like singhigher than most guys. Like I wasn't
good, like I didn't think Iwas a good singer back then, but
I definitely could, like I gota little something. Yeah, yeah,
yeah. I remember like Photographed byCheering came out and I could sing it,
and I was like, most guyscan't sing this, you know what
(07:30):
I mean? And so yeah,when I got to college, I learned
how to play guitar and it justkind of snowballed, and I was like,
I think I could figure this outif I tried. So what were
we going to college for. Iwas gonna be a teacher. I was
gonna be a history teacher. ButI don't know anything about history, which
is great, really literally nothing atall. Did you ever watch Drunk History?
Uh? To be honest, no, I know what it is,
(07:50):
but I never really watched it.Yeah yeah, funny, good starter or
two. Like I've seen there's oneepisode I think that I saw on YouTube
of like I think it's Brendan Yurietelling the history of Fallout Boy, I
think, and it's like it's liketrunk Hit or maybe it's I don't know,
maybe I'm maybe I'm crazy, butsomething like that. I've seen something
(08:11):
like that. I don't know he'swatched it. It's good people literally just
get dragging, like retell history story. I'm like, this is not history
shit, we tat right. Anyways, I'm still Good at being Alone.
The EP Yeah, which is likea perfect follow up from How Did This
a Girl? On Seven Songs?Tell me the difference between these two projects,
dude, It was so much funmaking I'm So Good At Being Alone
(08:31):
because it was it was kind oflike the project that I always wanted to
make, Like you know, welike How to Lose a Girl and Seven
Songs was this very like cohesive alllike kind of similar sounds and whatever.
It was. It was like avery like cohesive project, right, and
then when we did I'm So Goodat Being Alone, it was kind of
(08:52):
like, Okay, how far canwe go? Like, you know,
we have songs like man Down andLove Letter that are full blown, like
on rock songs, full blown likehuge drums and huge guitars whatever. And
then on the other side we haveI'm So Good at being Alone, and
we have miss When You Miss Meand these other songs that are like we
kind of just like took How toLose a Girl and Seven Songs and then
(09:13):
we just like expanded it on bothsides and so yeah, it was cool,
just kind of like making the thingsthat I always wanted to make.
But it still felt like, youknow, it's like I'm still gonna being
alone. Love letter can not soundany different, but somehow it still felt
like me, Like it didn't feelweird, you know. So yeah,
we just like kind of we're tryingto see how far we could push the
(09:35):
boundary, you know. And evenhow was that for you, Like,
you know, starting as a songwriterand like writing music for other people and
then like switching to having like allthis creative control, like what your sound
wants to sound like. Yeah,I mean, honestly, it's very like
it's very like freeing, you knowwhat I mean. There's like no rules
once once you're in the driver's seat. You know, as a songwriter,
you kind of have to you know, you have to make sure that the
artists. You know, you're,like I said, you're kind of just
(09:56):
following these rules. And when you'rethe one in charge now, it's like,
oh no, let's do this andsee and if it works great and
if it doesn't work. You know, was it easy to adjust to doing
that or were you kind of justlike going crazy? You're like oh,
I could do all this a littlebit of both. Like it was.
It was definitely uh hard for aminute, because once you start making only
(10:18):
songs for you, it's like running. It's like I don't even know what
to say at this point, LikeI was going into sessions and like before
I had properly gone on tour andgot to kind of like live the life
of these other songs out, Iwas like going into sessions and I was
like, I've written two hundred andfifty knock songs in the past like three
months. I'm like, I haveno idea what to even make, So
(10:41):
that that part was like difficult,But touring helps with that when you go
on the road and you get tolike see what songs work with what like
the crowds and you know kind ofwhat people like. So yeah, yeah,
it was. It was it's likean odd it's an odd thing,
but once you get back from tour, it's very inspiring because then you're like,
I need to make this because thisgoes really well live. And you
(11:01):
know, speaking of a touring,your first ever headline tour sold out.
Yeah, yeah, I feel likeyou're just doing one eighties everywhere because it's
like from being behind the scenes,like not trying to be seen to like
not a single ticket, right,It's crazy. It's absolutely mind blowing.
What's happening when you like first realizethat it's all sold out. I mean
(11:24):
I was hoping it would sell out, but it was like how fast it
sold out. I mean, likewe sold out the first half of the
tour that we that we did thetickets, like six of the nine cities
sold out in like two hours.It was like a medium And then we
just announced the West Coast ones andwe announced the tickets on Friday. It's
Tuesday now, and I think SanFrancisco is the only one that hasn't come
(11:48):
on guys. Yeah, yeah,So I mean it's it's crazy. It's
so cool to see people, like, especially being someone who started on TikTok,
Like it's kind of hard to keepthat momentum, you know, right,
and so you know, I justfeel super lucky that people have like
connected to the music that much thatthey want to come see it live.
And like I feel like every songjust gets bigger and bigger, and yeah,
(12:11):
it's thanks to the people that youknow, listen to it. So
yeah, yeah, that's awesome comingback to the Bay this April. Yeah,
yeah, April sixteenth. Yeah,I keep for like messing yeah sixteen.
What can fans expect at a show, especially on this story, I
mean, just well, when we'regonna play a couple of new songs which
I'm super excited about, and justlike come ready to have a good time,
(12:35):
Like the show is so much fun. It's such a blast, and
like they're I really do feel likewe did a good job of you know,
because it's the same set list asthe first half, and so it's
like, I don't know, Ifeel like we did a good job of
keeping the energy and it's just likea fun show and so get ready to
come like with all your friends andjust have a blast and to scream and
maybe cry at some point, Likeit's great all the things. Yeah,
(12:58):
yeah, it's a blast, andI feel like it's the fun album toe
like that pop rock sound is likealmost like the best to like You're right,
You're it's so much fun live.It's so much fun live. The
songs are all meant for the liveshow, right. Every song I make
is like if a song is notgonna go well live, it's like then
why are we even making it,you know, right, right right,
I know we're still running not thenineteen seventy five. I know, I
(13:18):
appreciate you on a hype of thatsong. Are you kind of like no,
yeah, I mean I definitely am. It's dude, it's a song
that's like changing my life, Likeevery single day there's something new that happens,
and it's just, you know,I'm from the middle of nowhere,
Ohio, so to be this faraway from home and like talking to you
about this and you know, it'sreal. It's crazier every day and I'm
(13:39):
just I'm super grateful to be here. It's such a good one. I
love how like everyone was accepting ofit too, Like, yeah, because
obviously do a lot of attention fromthe nineteen seventy five fans. Yeah.
Yeah, everyone was like this isamazing, thankfully, Like the internet has
actually been really nice. But today, so I was on the phone for
the day, I know. SoI was on the phone my girlfriend this
morning and she was telling me.She was like, don't get on Reddit
(14:03):
and look up your name and notthe night she was like, don't do
it. So naturally, I'm likeI read it. Reddit is not as
nice as Instagram and TikTok has been. But it was funny though I thought,
no, I love all the Easteggs in that song too, thank
you, but they all like onpurpose or so they all were, except
for the one that I get themost of is everybody is like even the
(14:24):
she said is an Easter Egg,and like me and my buddy who wrote
it together, were like, We'relike, oh yeah, we def definitely
did that on purpose, Like that'slike, oh my gosh, like how
did we even think of that whenlike totally, But then everybody was like
it's so smart and we were justlike, yeah, dude, for sure,
Oh god, so do we lovethe record? So coming back to
(14:46):
the Bay in April, what isnext for you? Because you said you
are working, are you in thesame what's going on? Oh? Yeah,
we just did Uh we just finishedup a bunch of songs in LA
last week and we have we haveso many songs that we are sitting and
I cannot wait. Like we're notgonna We're not gonna stop and like not
put out music. We're just gonnakeep dropping single and single and single and
(15:07):
maybe hopefully it like wraps into analbum. Maybe, but yeah, right
now, we're just like making thebest songs that we can possibly make and
putting them out and just seeing whathappens. Not necessarily like an album mode,
but you are. Yeah, we'rejust making music. Yeah, we're
just in like we're just in makewhatever we want and just make the best
music that we can from people.And so it's been a blast. But
(15:28):
twenty twenty four is gonna be crazy. I have like so many I have
like so many surprises like secrets thatI'm like so excited to tell the world
about. It's gonna be really reallycool. I'm excited. Know you can't
like give us too much, Butlike, have you been thinking about going
into other genres or are we stayingwith the pop rock sound? I feel
like you kind of branch out alittle bit in almost all your music.
(15:48):
Yeah, I'm like, which way'sagain, Let's let's just say we have
a lot of songs that are unlikeanything that I've ever put out before.
Fans definitely, yeah, totally allright, Oh yeah, we're definitely we're
just like you know, I liketo just see how, like I said,
how far we can push it.And so we've definitely uh stepped out
of some comfort zones that I thinkare fun, that I think people are
gonna enjoy. I can't wait.Thanks so much for stopping buys everything else
(16:11):
you want to tell your fans.Stick around. Twenty twenty four is going
to be absolutely crazy, and likeI said, I have so many surprises
for you. It's it's gonna beawesome. So just thanks for being here
and stay a little longer, Ipromise. Let go
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