4-23-25 - 8am - Alien Released Early and Fixing the Border

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Michael, how do we stop this judge from making this
ruling that the illegal aliens cannot be taken out of
Colorado because there's such great people, it doesn't matter. We
don't want them here.

Speaker 2 (00:14):
How do we fight back?

Speaker 3 (00:15):
What do we do?

Speaker 4 (00:19):
We're gonna talk about illegal aliens, but I'm not gonna
talk about that in particular right now. But to answer
your question about how do you stop a judge, you appeal.
That's all you can do. I mean, you can always
ignore a judge. And uh, I've been toying with discussing
the legitimacy of the courts, and your talkback raises that

(00:41):
question because the more the courts overreach, Well, hang on,
I may do that story later on the program. I
just haven't. I haven't decided yet, because you know we
I do. I go through and do these things as
I as they come to me. But I do want

(01:01):
to talk about the southern border a little bit. Remember
when Trump made some comment and I forget where it was,
but he made the comment that, well, turns out that
you really didn't need a change in the law, he
just needed a change in the president. Well that's really
true when you look at what's happening at the southern border.

(01:23):
I casually mentioned yesterday or day before that the numbers
had dropped precipitously. But even though the numbers have dropped
precipitously at the border, which between that and the economy,
those are the number one and two issues in the
twenty twenty four presidential campaign, and Trump is working on
both of those.

Speaker 2 (01:43):
Now.

Speaker 4 (01:43):
I think he needs to do a better job on
messaging about the economy because of the chaos, and I'd
like to see him do more in terms of deportations,
but he's running up against that brick wall of the judiciary.
But while all of that's going on, and we'll dive

(02:03):
into the numbers in just a minute, this is still
going on too. So there is there is the border issue,
and then there's the issue of those illegal aliens that
are in the country that are still committing crimes. And
that problem is not necessarily a federal problem, that is

(02:30):
a state problem. Let's go to Fox News. Bill Millusion,
the Fox News Channels report that's been doing the omen's
work reporting on the border crisis, said.

Speaker 3 (02:45):
This last night, and now to Bill Mallusion. He has
a Fox News exclusive on the tragic consequences of an
unsecured border high build. Been waiting to talk to you
all morning.

Speaker 5 (02:57):
Yeah, Dana, good morning to you. This illegal alien had
a link the rap sheet here in California long before
he ever killed these two California teenagers. He's got several
felony convictions on his record, several convictions for driving without
a license, but he was still out and about on
California's rows in this Why.

Speaker 4 (03:16):
That goes to the text message I received earlier when
we were joking about not joking but seriously talking about
the stupidity about road rage and driver's licenses and everything else.
And this guy's had encounters with illegal aliens, making you know,
improper left turns and causing accidents and just getting off,

(03:37):
you know, one hundred and eighteen dollars fine and boom,
that's it. Throws the receipt on the ground and leaves
the court room because he doesn't care, because he knows
there are no consequences, Colorado. That is squarely on you, California.
This is squarely on you Los Angeles in particular.

Speaker 5 (03:54):
The young American couple ended up paying the price for that,
and now their killer is getting an early release. It
was November twenty twenty one, a fiery collision on an
Orange County freeway, a young couple dead and the driver
who crashed into them a twice deported illegal alien from
Mexico with death.

Speaker 4 (04:15):
Twice deported, so he has received at least one removal order.
Remember talking about removal orders yesterday morning, and we went
through all the standard removal, expedited removal, everything. So here
is a guy who's no longer entitled to any more
due process, and yet California just lets him out.

Speaker 5 (04:36):
With multiple felonies in custody for being drunk, high and
speeding at nearly one hundred miles per hour.

Speaker 6 (04:44):
I got a knock on the door, and there's to
police officers.

Speaker 5 (04:47):
The pain written all over the face of Pavel Osokin
As he recalls being told his son Nikolaine and his
nineteen year old girlfriend Anya of our follow meve for instance,
they were kids are gone.

Speaker 6 (05:00):
As they told me, this was a horrible ancident. My
son and his girlfriend honeya and basically what burned alife
has their car was my daughter.

Speaker 5 (05:11):
Anya's father, Anatoly got a similar knock on the door
that night.

Speaker 7 (05:19):
He said, I just name said, yes, it's my daughter.
My wife came downstairs and she was screaming and crying.
She said no, no, no no.

Speaker 5 (05:33):
In spring of twenty twenty two, a jury convicted Oscar
Eduardo or Tega Anguillano on two counts of gross vehicular
manslaughter while intoxicated. A judge sentenced him to ten years,
but on Easter Sunday, the family say they received this
notice from the California Department of Corrections that on July
nineteenth he'll be getting out.

Speaker 6 (05:55):
Years folk, I'm killing two kids. It's confusing to me.
Why you give them ten if they're going to spend
five and then three.

Speaker 7 (06:04):
You get two young, productive American citizens killed for nothing,
and that illegally immigrant who already has been devoted twice
is going to be released again.

Speaker 5 (06:17):
In a statement, the Department of Corrections wouldn't confirm the release,
but said in part quote, incarcerated persons may earn credits
for participating in rehabilitative programming, which may move their parole
dates to an earlier date. Anya and Nikolai's families are
now sending letters to the state calling for Ortega Anguiyano
to serve his full sentence.

Speaker 7 (06:38):
All those dreams were cut short just by one person
who was not even supposed to be on that freeway.
I will never forgive this guy, never ever.

Speaker 6 (06:50):
I hope he's going to stay in prison. I hope
he's going to get old in prison, and I hope
he's going to get kicked out from our country.

Speaker 5 (06:57):
An end, and Dana Ice confirms the Fox News they
have placed a detainer on this illegal alien with the
California Department of Corrections. Their hope is that the state
their hope.

Speaker 4 (07:12):
The ICE's hope is that the state of California.

Speaker 5 (07:17):
Will transfer him to their custody upon his release from
prison in July. As for the victims' families, they're now
left wondering what are two lives worth here in the
state of California, they say, apparently only a little more
than three years to send it back to you.

Speaker 1 (07:35):
Thank you.

Speaker 4 (07:38):
We have a state problem too, and it's not just California.
It's states all over the country, not all of them.
We have that problem in Colorado. So imagine being those
family members a guy deported twice, still here ten years

(07:58):
sentence for you know, involuntary manslaughter while under intoxication, and
now boom, not ten years, not five years, not two years.

Speaker 2 (08:12):
Think about that.

Speaker 4 (08:15):
So what's happening at the border, Because while that's going
on here, there's something going on at the border that's
going to help limit that. But until we fix that,
and by that I mean the States. And by the way,
it's not just their incarceration or early release, it's their

(08:37):
cooperation with immigrations and customs enforcement. So you want to
know what's having down there at the border, at the
border where the desert where they cross meets the wires
in the river, where those who have these dreams, then
you know, coming here crash into the reality that hey, ye,
you're not going to be allowed to cross. The numbers

(08:59):
don't lie, even when the politicians try to spend them.
This is about the Mexico US border. Twenty twenty four,
that's the year that turned the tide, or so they say.
Now picture of this December twenty twenty three. The border

(09:20):
is a pressure cooker. That year, nearly two hundred and
fifty thousand people, illegal aliens, families, individuals, gang members, members
of the Chinese Communist Party.

Speaker 2 (09:35):
An entire cross section of the world's.

Speaker 4 (09:38):
Population, crossed into the United States in December of twenty
twenty three. Two hundred and fifty thousand. They called it
a record. Men, women, kids, people from Venezuela, Cuba, Haiti,
even China. You know, whether they were running from poverty, violence,
or just chasing a dream of something better, I don't care.

(10:01):
And the border patrol in December of twenty twenty three
was drowning. They logged two hundred and forty nine thousand,
seven hundred and forty one encounters. That's not just a number,
those are all individuals. Each won a weight on the
immigration system, a weight on the agents, and a problem

(10:24):
for every single one of us. And Conservative News called
it a crisis. But then the politician started pointing fingers.
What was the public saying? In December of twenty twenty three,
seventy eight percent said that it was a disaster, a
major problem, one of the government. Eighty percent thought they

(10:48):
were batching it. Eighty percent of Americans thought the US government,
the federal government, was batching it, and that's where we
were chaos. That was that's real chaos December twenty twenty three.
But then something shifted. August of twenty twenty four, the
numbers started to plummet from two hundred and forty nine thousand,

(11:11):
seven and forty one down to fifty eight thousand and
thirty eight in counts. That's a seventy seven percent drop
from a quarter million to hundred sixty thousand just in
eight months. Now, that might sound like a miracle, right,
or maybe it's just a policy catching up with reality.
The Biden administration they want to claim they weren't sitting

(11:33):
by Idley. They tried to lean on Mexico. They got
Mexico to some degree to crack down on their side. Deportations, detentions,
you name it. Mexico started playing ball a little bit.
And those say third country deals, well, they started to
expand countries like Gauatemala, Honduras, El Salvador, even Columbia and Ecuador.

(11:53):
They started taking back their people. They started stopping people
from passing. But we tightened the screws. Title forty two,
that old pandemic era rule got repurposed. Expulsions became the
name of the game. Cross without papers, go back, no asylum, hearing,

(12:14):
know nothing unless you could prove you were immortal danger
And the numbers speak for themselves. Venezuelans, they were down
ninety nine because remember the Temporary Protected Status program Venezuelan, Haitians, Cubans,
and I think Hondurans Venezuelans down ninety nine percent from
forty six nine and eighteen in December down to six

(12:36):
hundred and twenty six by August. You don't think the
politics wasn't playing a factor in this. You don't think
that despite Trump accomplishing even more, the Democrats knew, And
that's the perspective I want you to catch. The Democrats
knew in August they had a problem with immigration being

(13:00):
an issue, and that's why they started to make changes. Yes,
we needed a new president to take it all the way,
but the Democrats were recognizing it back in August of
twenty twenty four, Haitians Nicer Rogman's everything was the same story.
Even Chinese illegal aliens from the Chinese Communist Party who

(13:23):
were showing up in droves at one time that felled
by seventy five percent. The border became quieter. By August,
sixty nine percent of those crossing were actually from from
Mexico itself or the Northern Triangle, the Guatemala, Hondur Sil Salvador,
but back in December they were forty six percent. Then,

(13:48):
looking worldwide, the ones from really far away places. They
were being stopped before they even got close. But don't
get too comfortable in the numbers the policies. The human
rights folks started screaming, claiming there was too harsh, harsh,

(14:13):
that shutting out people who deserve a shot of asylum
should be given that shot at asylum. So then the smugglers,
the cartels, they were still out there. They were still
out there preying on the desperate.

Speaker 2 (14:25):
Even if the.

Speaker 4 (14:26):
Numbers were down, they were still operating. And the border itself,
it was still a gauntlet, the snooring desert. The real
grand people were still dying, just maybe knows a many.
The International Organization for Migration, we talked about that one
adon Monday called it the deadliest land route in the

(14:46):
world back in twenty twenty two, and that has not
changed at all.

Speaker 2 (14:52):
So what's the truth.

Speaker 4 (14:54):
Is this a victory, a system finally working, or is
it a bandage on a that's still bleeding fifty six
thousand and thirty eight in August of last year, down
from almost a quarter of a May two hundred and
forty nine thousand, and Yes, you can see progress, but

(15:15):
it's still not one hundred percent secure. And why would
I play the SoundBite about the person in California kills
two young people and is now going to be let
out early? Because while Trump was right, we didn't need
new laws. In fact, what we really needed was an election.

(15:38):
Because the Democrats themselves were starting to recognize that we
got a problem. We've got to start slowing this down.
And indeed giving them credit, albeit they was purely for
political reasons, they started.

Speaker 2 (15:50):
To slow the numbers down.

Speaker 4 (15:52):
Trump comes in and reduces the numbers even further, it
to virtually a trickle. And now we start to see
the other half of the problem. And the other half
of the problem is those who are still here, and
in particular those who are still here, who are the criminals.

(16:16):
Whether they be members of gangs, that I'll make a broad,
overly broad statement. If they're a member of TDS and
MS thirteen, I'd be willing to bet my kingdom that
they have already committed a heinous crime of some sort
just to become a member of the gang. They've probably

(16:37):
killed someone, and in the course of their gang membership,
whether it be for thirty days or three years, they've
committed Burgley's robberies, rapes, murders any number of things. So
whether it's TDA or it's MS thirteen, or they committed
other crimes like the guy in California that got drunk,
goes speeding down the Orange County Freeway at one hundred

(16:57):
miles an hour and kills two young people.

Speaker 2 (17:00):
And now Californias, you go let him out early.

Speaker 4 (17:03):
And Ice has asked for and hopes for a detention,
a detainer. Will they get it? So Trump's doing exactly
what he promised. I want him to do more, But
now we ought to start focusing on the states. Where's
the cooperation and what what are you doing? Next segment?

Speaker 2 (17:28):
Trump's trying to.

Speaker 4 (17:32):
Organize and use other parts of the federal government and
the Democrats are balking. Hey, let's go talk to Jarris
from the Retirement Planning So of the Rockies, you as
got a question.

Speaker 3 (17:42):
For you today?

Speaker 2 (17:43):
Are you shocked?

Speaker 3 (17:46):
No, Michael, this is a surprise.

Speaker 4 (17:48):
So here's my So, in fact, I was just leaking
up at CNN and they're they're doing a market report
right now. So what's your advice? What's the advice of
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Speaker 3 (18:02):
Do you do? You know, that's a good question, Michael,
and it's an important one right now. We've seen a
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And the problem is, you know, as advisors like we are,

(18:23):
and I know you have a lot of listeners who
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because as you ride this roller coaster, you know, the
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I don't know what the future is going to bring. Like,
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(18:47):
But here's the thing. The truth is, and everybody knows this,
and the truth is, making emotional decisions during time, during
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a slew of downdays. The thing that people have to

(19:09):
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(19:30):
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(19:53):
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Speaker 4 (20:03):
And I would add too, it doesn't make you. As
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(20:25):
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Speaker 3 (20:30):
Or this, yep, exactly, And that's really it's all about
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(21:06):
I said earlier, the problem is we were starting to
fix things at the border, but there's still more work
to be done, and we've now comp shouldn't say we've
complicated it, but the situation is complicated because we now
have the state and locals to deal with. I mean,
look at what they're doing in Colorado. There's no cooperation

(21:27):
with ICE. I mean ICE has to kind of you know,
wait in the bushes outside you know, a detention center,
a jail or a courthouse, and then grab somebody when
they leave.

Speaker 2 (21:37):
I mean it's it's absurd.

Speaker 4 (21:38):
So facing that kind of resistance, the Trump administration has said, Okay, well,
let's figure out a way that we can start using
even other federal resources to target illegal aliens. The Department
of Government Efficiency tweeted this out. Under the Biden administration,

(21:59):
it was root king for Border Patrol to admit aliens
into the United States with no legal status. In minimal
screening so far, CBP identified a subset of six thousand,
three hundred individuals parolled into the United States since twenty
twenty three who are on the FBI's Terrorist Screening Center

(22:22):
watch list or who have criminal records. These parolees have
since been terminated with immediate effect. Despite having no other
legal status, parolled illegal aliens are able to file for
work authorization and get social Security numbers. Among these, six thousand,

(22:45):
three hundred paroled aliens that have criminal or terrorist records
all have social Security numbers. By the way, nine hundred
five are collecting medicaid, including four that are on the
Terrorists watch list. Two hundred seventy six thousand, thousand dollars
has been paid out. Forty one of them are collecting
unemployment insurance, receiving more than forty two thousand dollars in benefits.

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Twenty two received federal student loans loans totaling two hundred
eight thousand dollars. Four hundred and nine received net tax
refunds for twenty twenty four only of seven hundred and
fifty one thousand dollars, and several the final number to
be determined, received snap food stamp benefits. So against the

(23:35):
fierce resistance that the Trump administration is finding at the
state and local level and that they're finding within the courts,
they're now enlisting the IRS and the Social Security in
their crackdown efforts. Two weeks ago, the IRS signed an

(23:57):
agreement with ICE with an enforcement that of course set
off alarm bells for all the pro immigration inngos and
all their like minded advocates, including all the Democrats, and
reportedly prompted the IRS Acting chief to resign in protest.

(24:19):
Remember that, Did you ever wonder why he was really resigning?

Speaker 8 (24:24):
Well?

Speaker 4 (24:25):
The deal between ICE and IRS allowed ICE to request
the tax return information of illegal aliens in other words,
people who are not in the country legally. So in
the last few days, as part of a push to

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encourage self deportation, DHS and the Social Security Administration have
also decided to start coordinating to strip benefits from otherwise
ill the inadmissible illegal aliens who were granted parole during
the Biden administration. Now that's the group that poses national

(25:08):
security concerns and they've now had their parole status revoked.
ABC News was told by an unnamed DHS official that
quote information sharing across agencies is essential to identify who
is in our country, including violent criminals, while stressing the
desire to quote determine what public safety and terror threats

(25:31):
may exist so we can neutralize them, scrub these individuals
from voter rolls, as well as identify what public benefits
these aliens are using at taxpayer expense.

Speaker 2 (25:45):
Now you go back.

Speaker 4 (25:48):
Biden, Trump, Yeah, well Trump, yeah, because Trump didn't do
this either, Trump one point zero. You go back to Obama, Bush, Clinton, Bush.
I mean, nobody did this kind of information sharing. They
tried to avoid information sharing because there were a couple

(26:09):
of things going on. First of all, everybody in DC
wants to protect their turf, and then everybody's always concerned
about privacy, which I find the whole thing about privacy
concern you know, privacy concerns to be kind of funny
because I don't worry about a database that the Social

(26:29):
Security Administration or the IRS might have my social Security
number in if they're using that to compare it with
a database of parolees illegal aliens who have had their
parole revoked to see if there's any matches, because I'm

(26:51):
not going to match, so what's my I have zero
privacy concerns about that because they're simply looking for matches.
They're not looking for names, They're looking for matches.

Speaker 2 (27:06):
But in the current.

Speaker 4 (27:06):
Climate, all these advocacy groups, all these NGOs are now
are now suing because they want to they want to
thwart the cooperation between the IRS and DHS because they're
claiming that if that's somehow going to violate my taxpayer confidentiality. Hell,

(27:27):
they've already got my number. Now, ICE doesn't have my number,
but they have any illegal aliens number, So when they
compare the databases, it's only when there's a match. Now,
let's say that somehow, now I know that nobody does
because of the limits I put on the use of

(27:49):
my Social Security number and freezing credit reports and doing
all of those things, that there's not going to be
a matter. Well, let's just say that somehow there's boom
a match. All that means is I'm going to get
a notice or maybe I'm the knock on the door
from ICE that says, And of course they're gonna knock

(28:09):
on my door, and I'll probably answer because they'll be
in uniform and they're gonna go, oh, we may have
we may have the wrong person, or uh, we have
information to believe that you're an illegal alien and you're
receiving Social Security or tax refunds. And I'll be like, really,

(28:31):
I think you got the wrong person, But do tell
me what Social Security number is that that.

Speaker 2 (28:38):
You're concerned about.

Speaker 4 (28:39):
May you tell me what the number is and if
it matches the number that I that I know in
my head, then I'll say, yeah, you've got the wrong person.
You want proof, here's my path, here's my US passport
or my driver's license.

Speaker 2 (28:55):
I don't have any concerns about that whatsoever.

Speaker 4 (28:58):
I'm more concerned about those out there that have valid
Social Security numbers that belong to a now no longer.
You know someone who's had their parole revoked that is
here illegally and is getting these benefits. So this absurd

(29:20):
controversy highlights the I think a novel way in which
Trump two point zero is trying to break down these
these fake barriers, this turf between agencies so they can
share data in pursuit of their policy goals to combat
illegal immigration and guess what, at the same time with DOGE,

(29:43):
it'll save us money too. So when you hear about these,
oh my gosh, DOZE and DHS is all getting into
the IRS or Social Security database. Take a deep breath.

Speaker 8 (29:55):
Good morning from South Dakota. The cause of an accident
is two vehicles trying to by the same space, so
the faster you go, the less time you are in
that space. So it goes to reason that the faster
both parties drive, the less chance of an accent there is.
Everyone have a great day.

Speaker 4 (30:14):
Sometimes the obvious is just right in front of us
and we just gloss right.

Speaker 2 (30:18):
Over it, completely missed it.

Speaker 4 (30:20):
Jiminy Christmas. Next time, which I don't intend to anytime
in the near future, get caught for speeding, w officer.
I was simply trying to avoid an accident. Perfect, Yeah,
don't you understand me in good grief? So in fact,
send that to me so I can play that back,
you know when.

Speaker 2 (30:36):
I don't you understand physics? That's right.

Speaker 4 (30:39):
So this was sent to me this morning, and I'm
always amazed how things like this worked out. This was
sent to me by a listener in New Mexico from
Los Cruses, and it fits perfectly with what I was
just pointing about. We're now dealing with the federal problem,
but we got to deal with the state problem. A

(31:00):
county magistrate judge in Los Cruses has resigned from the bench,
where he has been since twenty eleven for fourteen years.
His resignation letter didn't say why he was stepping down,
but It followed shortly after a man awaiting deportation proceedings,
accused by federal law enforcement of being affiliated with TDA,

(31:25):
was arrested at the judge's home. Christian Ortega Lopez, twenty
three years old, faces federal firearm charges after Homeland Security
execute a search warrant on February twenty eight at the
Las Causas residence owned by this judge and his wife.

Speaker 2 (31:43):
Seems that they were keeping a.

Speaker 4 (31:48):
County magistrate judge in New Mexico is keeping an illegal
alien who is a member of Trenda Ragua in his home.

Speaker 1 (32:00):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (32:01):
Say that again for the people in the back.

Speaker 4 (32:03):
Oh, a state magistrate judge was keeping in his home
with his wife.

Speaker 2 (32:13):
I think her name was Anna, keeping.

Speaker 4 (32:16):
In his home an illegal alien from Venezuela who is
a member of Trenda Ragua.

Speaker 2 (32:22):
I still don't think that guy on the left was
listening for.

Speaker 4 (32:25):
You in the left listen up a county which I
assume he's probably an elected position judge. By the way,
I make sure we know his name, Judge Damien Martinez.
He's now being He appeared on charges of being or

(32:47):
Teglopez was taking into custody along with others. He appeared
back in March before US Magistrate Judge Damien Martinez on
charges of being an unlawful alien in the possession of
a firearm. But that's not the judge. Another judge declined comment.
Did not want to explain why they were keeping this

(33:09):
illegal alien who is a member of Trenda Ragua in
their home. Yeah, we got a state problem food to Mexico. Hey,
Governor Covid, what are you going to do down there
about that