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Speaker 1 (00:00):
To night. Michael Brown joins me here, the former FEMA
director of.
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Talk show host Michael Brown.
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No, Brownie, you're doing a heck of a job the
Weekend with Michael Brown. Well, the Pope is dead. The
Pope has been buried, and I'm sitting here trying to
figure out, trying to decide because I'm not Catholic. Right
up front, I'm not Catholic, and I have nothing against Catholicism.
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In fact, as Michael and I were talking before the
start of the program, when you think about the history
of Catholicism, and you think about how Catholicism has survived
for thousands of years, and Catholicism has survived, the Roman
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Empire survived, you know, all these different empires that have
tried to destroy Catholicism even survived, you know, Protestants, those
who protest the Protestants. It really is amazing how influential
and how amazingly defining Catholicism has been for Western civilization
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writ large. It's a defining force in terms of Western
civilization's morality. It's a defining force. At one time, I
thought in terms of the post World War two American order.
You think about Pope John Paul and what he and
Maggie Thatcher and Ronald Reagan did in terms of breaking
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up the old Soviet Union, bringing down the Berlin Wall,
and essentially, you know, kabashing the old Cold War. Popes
can have an amazing influence, as did Pope Francis, but
the influence that he had may not be the influence
the Catholics will you want to be proud of, But
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I suppose that that depends. And what I find fascinating
about it is some of the things that I've observed
Pope Francis do during his papacy and some of the
things that I have read and studied and learned about
his background is another example of how politics has infused
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everything in our lives everything. I'm not sure they're sure
there's anything that we can do to escape that. And
so I come on air today having I was saying
Michael two before before we started the show, that I
had an event to go to last night, so I
was somewhat late getting home. Late for me anyway, since
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I'm you know, usually up every weekday at four thirty. Well,
come Saturday or Sunday, it's hard to sleep past four
thirty because well I've gone to bed a data eight
thirty or something. So I go to this event and
I come home. It's somewhat late, and I and I
crawl in bed and I get it. I get into
bed and I go into a really deep sleep until
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about two or three o'clock this morning, and I cannot
get back to sleep. So what I decide to do
is I get up, walk around, you know, get some
lukewarm water and drink that, turn on a little music.
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Can't do it, I mean, nothing's working. So I think, oh,
wait a minute, what time is it in Rome? Oh
let's look at let's watch the funeral. So I get
onto YouTube and I I flip back and forth between
the BBC coverage and Fox News coverage, back and forth,
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back and forth. So I come to you this morning,
you know, for all the Catholics. My sympathies to all
the Catholics who have lost their their Vicar of Christ,
the the Barker for Saint Peter. But I also question
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what's the Catholic Church going to do next, because now
that the pope is dead, the damage that he did.
In my Protestant opinion, because again I'm going to emphasize,
I'm not Catholic, the damage that he is going to
live on one of them. Without getting into a lot
of the details yet, which we will, you know, he
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appointed more than I forget what the numbers are. I
want to say one hundred and thirty, but that seems high,
but well over one hundred cardinals, and is usually the case,
whether it's a president appointing cabinet members, or it's the
CEO looking for his next CFO or chief Tech Technology
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officer or you know, district managers or whatever it might be.
You tend to find those people that reflect your values.
You tend to find and want to appoint those people
that will carry out your mission, carry out your agenda.
And a pope is no different. The pope is running
an organization. It just happens to be a religious organization,
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but nonetheless he's running a business organization that is a
religious organization that has an amazing amount of influence on
Western civilization. You've probably heard, if you go back in
history about some of at the time. Bishop Bergolios that
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his given name his role in collaborating with the Rockefeller
sponsored fascist military Junes in Argentina between nineteen seventy six
nineteen eighty three, which was overseeing the torture murder campaigns
directed by Operation Condor. So there's just a lot of
baggage and there's a lot of things that it just
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makes you wonder what will be the role of the
Catholic Church going forward, and who will they appoint. You know,
as human population has grown, there's been this belief that
somehow we are going to destroy Mother Gaia. Well, you know,
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Pope Francis was I'm trying to be diplomatic in my language.
Pope Francis was an environmentalist. I would put it this way.
If he were not the Pope, I would say to
you that I always thought he was a member of
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the Church of the climate activists, that he was one
of those people that believe that, you know, fewer people
on the planet and we've got to, you know, focus
on sustainability and we got to clean things up where
we're going to destroy Mother Earth. And I always found
that to be kind of conflicting in my head, because
if God, the Creator created the heavens and the earth
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and then created us in his image, how is it that,
I mean, even if we decide that we're gonna blow
up the Earth with a bunch of nuclear weapons. The
planet will eventually survive anyway, as we've seen in Japan
Proboshman Nagasaki, as we've seen with Fukushimo or Chernobyl, that
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the Earth is able to repair itself and move on.
But he didn't believe that. He really did not believe that.
Referring to the Paris Accords, for example, Pope Francis described
the importance for all Christians to abide by the values
laid out in the Green Agenda, saying this, there is
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no alternative. He said, quote, we can achieve the goals
set by the Paris Agreement only if we act in
a coordinated and responsible way. Those goals are ambitious, and
they can no longer be deferred today. It is up
to you to take the necessary decisions now. Just in
case anyone had an idea of reviving some sort of
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nationalist policies in opposition to the globalizing forces of the
post nation state age which we are supposedly entering right now,
the Pope said this, we can confront these crises by
retreating into isolationism, protectionism and exploitation, or we can see
in them a real chance for change, a genuine movement
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moment of conversion, and not simply in a spiritual sense.
What was he talking about? What did he mean? The
new Christian ethos that was unveiled by Pope Francis saw
humankind saw humans individuals. Because remember, for me anyway, I
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can't speak for everyone else, but for me, I believe
that my salvation is individual and is it is not
dependent upon the collective. My salvation is not dependent upon yours,
nor yours dependent upon mine. But the new Christian ethos
that was unveiled by the Pope Pope Saw saw humankind
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not as a species which could transcend the limits of nature,
as say Prometheus did when he stole fire from the
tyrant god Zeus and gave it to mankind. But in
his worldview, mankind was defined from the standpoint of Zeus,
a creature to remain ignorant, underpopulated, and bound and bound
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to the ecosystems within which he evolved. I I just
don't think that's I don't think that's what it's really about.
So that's that's all I have to say about the Pope.
I don't want to go into much more details, but
that's that's all I say about the Pope. I would
just ask you to, if you're Catholic and if you're
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non Catholic, to try to take an objective look at
some of his teachings and some of the globalist agendas
that he was a part of, and ask yourself where
does that take your church? Next? It's the Weekend with
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Have you heard of the Council for Inclusive cap of
lism I There's just one more thing I want to
say about the Pope and it's and here's why I
think you need to understand why. One why I'm reticent
to talk about it, and that's primarily because I'm not Catholic.
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But the reason that I do want to talk about
it is because I think that Pope Francis infused the
Vatican with which it has its own internal politics. Duh,
but he took it to a different level in terms
of leftist, globalist, Marxist kind of policies, and it just
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bugs me. The Council for Inclusive Capitalism and the Vatican.
Let's talk about that for a moment, but listen to this.
Industrial farming is the single biggest destructive force on the
planet today. Where am I complicit in a war against
the art?
Speaker 2 (11:57):
There's a famous Henry Kissinger quote, which apparently he didn't
even write. Control oil, and you control nations, control food,
and you control people. Regardless of who wrote it, it's
a succinct way to explain what's happening in several nations
on different time scales, but for all the same reason
and orchestrated by the same people.
Speaker 1 (12:19):
Your Royal Highnesses, your excellencies, Laurence, ladies and gentlemen ladies,
welcome is Royal Highness.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
Where remind of distant wars.
Speaker 1 (12:31):
The union impotant power plan.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
They began talking that night about violence. There is an
uncertain future for a strategically.
Speaker 1 (12:40):
Important island nation where economic crisis has now been followed
by political people. Let's go back to twenty twenty. In
twenty twenty, Pope Francis oversaw the merging of the Vatican
with a dubious can I use that word dubious World
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Economic Forum connected entity called the Council for Inclusive Capitalism. Now, anytime,
and I know I'm painting with a broad brush here,
but anytime somebody hooks up with the World Economic Forum,
might I get a little nervous, I get a little paranoid,
and I think, what do you is somebody, for example,
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is the World Economic Forum capturing the Vatican? Or is
the Vatican molding into the World Economic Forum? And then
when I hear that it's the Council for Inclusive Capitalism.
And that was in twenty twenty, this name should sound
familiar to you. Mark Carney, Mark Carney running to be
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the next Prime Minister of Canada, the globalist international banker
him and Lynn Forrester de Rothschild. And what was the
Council for Inclusive Capitalism? It wanted to promote quote collective
actions intended to lead to systemic change by making capitalism
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a greater force for inclusivity and sustainability. Oh, sounds like
a green new deal of some sort, doesn't it. Roth's
child described the merger this way. This is a historic
new partnership between some of the world's largest investment business
leaders and the Vatican, joining moral and market i parities
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to reform capitalism into a powerful force for the good
of humanity. Look over your shoulder. Look over your shoulder,
real quickly. Look at all that Look at all that
progress that we've made since the industrial revolution. Look at
all the progress we've made since we decided to start
walking upright. That's because of free markets. That's because of capitalism,
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and that's because of humans using their God given brains,
going out and with the ingenuity and the innovation and
their abilities to think beyond just their noses, innovating and
coming up with amazing things that have put us in
the world that we live in today, where we have
all of these amazing technologies, we have all of this
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amazing ability to house and feed ourselves. We you know,
fewer and fewer farmers, few and even industrial even you
want to take you to industrial farming. Farming fewer and
fewer people are feeding more and more people every single year.
So what are we doing here to reform capitalism into
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a powerful force for the good of humanity it already is. Now,
do I think capitalism is perfect? No? I think many
air quote here capitalists have lost their moral grounding and
so it just becomes chasing the dollar without a moral basis.
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Adam Smith talked about you've got to have a moral
basis for capitalism to succeed. Well, I'm not certain that
doing things that are going to reform capitalism to make
it a greater force for inclusivity and sustainability is exactly
what is the kind of moral authority that Adam Smith
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was talking about. So this, this group is led by
a core group of world leaders who even call themselves guardians.
It's kind of creepy, isn't it. They include CEOs of
people from State Street, Bank of America, Johnson and Johnson,
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the Rockefeller Foundation, the Ford Foundation, Merk British Petroleum, and
of course all the Rothschild making houses. I wouldn't say
that's exactly the most morally advanced coterie of political heavyweights
one could imagine, right, But still, maybe the evil that
they have been apart for decades has been all arranged
for the sake of a higher good that only the
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elite may be permitted to know about. So what sort
of conversion was Pope Francis implying that the Christian world
engage in by supporting the Paris Climate Accords and the
greening of the world economy because we know at its heart,
at its soul, if you will, that the green economy
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is about what. It's not about green sustainable energy, it's
about population control and human control. Let that sink in.
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text messages, I want to go to them for a
moment because, uh, we joke during the weekday brom about
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how text messages can cause me can derail the program. Well,
you guys have success successfully derailed the program today with
a couple of year text messages. Because you've reminded me
of a couple of other things. Goober number zero one
nine five rights Mike. The only problem with Pope Francis
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statement on the Paris Accords was that it was not
directed towards the Chinese government exactly you think about Pope
John Paul went straight on head to head with the Communists,
help bring down the Soviet Union, helped in the Cold War,
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But did Pope Francis or the World Economic Forum. Did
any of them ever talk about, Hey, uh, if you're
really concerned about the planet, the Chinese Communist Party needs
to clean up its act. Of course not. It was
directed toward Western Europe and the United States of America.
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And I still believe that goes back to his upbringing
in Argentina or Guba number zero three hundred. I really
appreciate this one, MIKEA or Michael regarding Jorge Burgolio and
the overwhelming majority of a statement and quote teachings for
the past twelve years. One must remember that the Church
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and Catholics are not bound by his prudential words and beliefs,
many of which are in direct opposition to the actual
teaching of the Church. The cleanup of the mess that
he created will make the cleanup after Katrine that look
like a picnic in comparison. I assume you must be Catholic,
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and if that's the case, and if that's the perspective
of some Catholics, then I would add and that cleanup
after these nine days of mourning is going to be
more difficult than ever because of his if you will,
stacking the deck when it comes to the College of
Cardinals because again, if he's appointed more than a hundred
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of those, and there will be I forget how many
are actually going to vote. I think I heard one
hundred and thirty are going to vote. You have to
be eighty or younger or something to vote. Well, if
he's If he's done that, then you would assume that
he has done those that would emulate his policies, although
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I would question whether he has been successful in that
or not, because I'm going to make a big assumption here,
and again not being Catholic, I don't know, so somebody
will have to correct me if I'm wrong. But I'm
going to assume that many of the cardinals that were
appointed from from the African continent, or say, from Asia,
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I would assume that those are going to be more
conservative Catholic than he is, simply because of their backgrounds
and what they're dealing with in terms of communism and
poverty and everything else. But I might be wrong about that.
And then Guber number ninety three sixty four wrote, and
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this is what really won, meaning makes me want to
go back to something else, Mike, paraphrasing from the Pope,
build bridges, not walls. Give me a break. The Vatican
is surrounded by walls hypocrisy, and it's worse. Do as
I say, not as I do. I am Catholic, and
I will call this out all day long. If you
really want to understand the reason that I'm dancing around
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these issues is go to the Drudge Report. Drudge Report,
drudgereport dot com. Here are the headlines right now. Trump
called out at Pope's funeral, slammed for behavior. Blue suit
draws attention. You wore a blue suit as opposed to
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a dark gray or a black suit. Oh my gosh.
But I clicked on the story about slammed for his behavior,
and what I find is exactly what you were talking
about in the text message, and that is that he
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was called out in front of millions of people in
the eulogy delivered by whoever it was that was delivering
the Pope's eulogy. Who was This is Cardinal Giovanni Battiste Ray,
who delivered the homily, made sure that the late Pope's
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hostility to Trump's immigration policies were not forgotten. This cardinal
said this. Pope Francis incessantly raised his voice, imploring peace
and calling for reason and honest negotiation. To find possible solutions.
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Bill bridges not walls, was an exhortation that he repeated
many times. Trump and France Francis the Pope had clashed repeatedly,
according to this article over the years, beginning in early
twenty sixteen, when Francis criticized Trump's plan to build a
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border wall, saying that anyone who thought only of building walls,
not bridges is not Christian. Wow. I find that astonishing,
and I find it interesting too that maybe I don't
remember that. Maybe at the time I commented on it,
but I don't remember that particular point. And apparently, according
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to MSN, who are they quoting here, this is from
the Daily Beast, They say that Trump responded angrily, calling
it disgraceful for a religious leader to question his faith
and accusing Mexico of manipulating the Pope. The bitter and
very public exchange saw Trump label Francis as a very
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political person. The homley may have only been in implicit rebuke,
the Daily Beast writes, but after such a public clash
over building walls, there can be no mistake that it
was a deliberate and pointed one from the Vatican in
front of millions watching around the world. I think you
can be Christian. In fact, I know you can be
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Christian and be opposed to the unmitigated disaster that uncontrolled
immigration is in today's world. If you believe in Western civilization,
if you truly believe in the mores, the values of
Western civilization, then you look at what the Islamists are
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doing in Europe and you will understand that Islamis, because
of open borders, are using that to establish their caliphates
in Western Europe. And they do in little spots around
this country, whether it be outside Detroit somewhere, but they
will establish their little caliphates and they are in opposite
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to Western civilization. Now talking about Islam, I'm talking about Islamis.
We can have another debate about Islam, but I'm not
going to do that today. But I'm talking about islamis.
Those who want to impose their radical views of Islam
on a constitutional republic or for that matter, Hell's bells,
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on a monarchy, whether it be the United Kingdom, Norway
or Denmark, or it's another constitutional republic like France, or
a democratic republic like Germany without borders, without having borders
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to protect your sovereignty, and without having controls on immigration,
we're way beyond nation building. We're not doing that. Again,
We're not looking at We're not looking at the vast, unwashed, unconquered,
vastness of North America. That's over and done with. What
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we're looking at are the values that this country and
what those values represent to all of Western civilization. And
if we allow unfettered immigration into this country, unfettered illegal immigration,
we will destroy the very values that this country has
thrived on for centuries, and we will end up a
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crap whole country. And of course I argue that we're
on our way to that now. It's just that I
think now we're starting to see some changes to turn
us back the other direction. So again, when you look
at the the posthumous criticism, which I find interesting because
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they want to criticize Trump publicly at this funeral, Yet
you can find online photo after photo after photo of
every world leader trying to rub shoulders with Donald Trump. Now,
of course I know they have self interest, they have
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political interests. They may even have a personal interest in
rubbing shoulders with the leader of the free world. They
want to work out a trade agreement, they want to
work out an immigration agreement. They want to work out,
you know, whatever it might be agreements, but it proves
that this country is still the very basis the foundation
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for Western civilization. We're the last remaining hope for Western civilization.
And by that I mean a democratic, constitutional republic where
individual liberty and individual freedom reigns supreme, and we have
a limited government that says that should say that our
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number one job is not to keep you safe. Our
number one job is to protect your rights. Because again,
let's take it back to a theological point of view.
I sincerely believe, as long as we're talking about religion,
I sincerely believe that Christ believes that we need to
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live in freedom and liberty. And just as our salvation
is individual, so is our freedom and liberty. And we
just simply carve that little areas where we say we
will act collectively, and those are very, very limited. It's
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So weekend with Michael Brown. Really glad, I am sincerely
really particularly today because as the first of all, the
text line is blowing up, and I really appreciate that,
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but a couple of you have told me to quit
tiptoeing around that I, at least to you, I'm speaking
the truth. Well, I'm speaking what I believe to be
the truth about where we are. And in fact, the
most recent text message says, Michael, you know that our
demise was Obama's transformation dream. Remember how Obama wanted to
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fundamentally transform this country. Well that's all part of this
globalist effort and the Green New Deal or the environment
however you want to I don't care how you phrase
it or what words you use, but this idea that
Gaya the Earth is the end all and be all,
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and that we've got to do everything we can to
protect it. I'm not saying we should mutilate it or
dirty it up or destroy it. No, not at all.
But what we have to recognize is that what's going
on is an effort to control humans by a very few,
select group of people, and by doing so, taking away
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your individual rights and your individual liberties. And I just
find it an affront when I find the leader of
the Roman Catholic Church engaged in that. It is really
worth asking is the Paris are the Paris Climate Accords
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and the mandates they contain to create this global decarbonization scheme?
Are they really premised on honest intentions to preserve the
environment and to protect people? Are they really designed for
something else? Were Pope Francis's efforts to rewrite the entire
Catholic Church around the green agenda truly driven by Christian love,
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as the Pope is so fond of saying, or was
there something darker at play? The founder of the Club
of Rome, Sir Alexander King, in nineteen ninety one, said this,
and I think this is the truth. It's what there
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when I say the truth, It's what the activists in
the Church of the congregants, in the Church of the
climate activists, this is what their doctrine and dogma is.
Sir Alexander King wrote this, in searching for a new
enemy to unite us, we came up with the idea
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that pollution, the threat of global warming, water shortages, famine
and the like would fit the bill. All these dangers
are caused by human intervention, and it is only through
changed attitudes and behavior that they can be overcome. The
real enemy, then, he wrote, is humanity itself. So if
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the leader of your church believes that humanity, and if
you believe as I do, as the Bible tells us,
that we were made in the image of God, then
how can we be the enemy? How can anybody possibly
believe that? Do you think that John F. Kennedy or
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Charles all believe that? I just I just find it
really bizarre that this kind of Marxism, there's really no
other word for it, was pulled into the Catholic Church.
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And I don't know, again, maybe because I'm not Catholic,
but I don't know that. I don't personally know of
any other than what I'm getting on the text line
of any Catholics that have verbally said the things that
I have said. But apparently you're out there because you're
reflecting right back to me and even stronger language than
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I've used about. Yes, you know, if we banish creative discovery,
if we banish innovation, if we start destroying technology, which
could otherwise truly liberate all these poor slaves and serfs
that apparently the Church is all concerned about, so that
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they can move on to a higher station in life,
so that they remember when Barack Obama told those kids
in Africa that you know, sucks to be you, but
I'm paraphrasing, obviously sucks to be you, but you can't
have air conditioning because you're going to burn up the world.
Well that's basically saying you are stuck in a life
of poverty because we're not going to bring the technology
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and the innovation to you because we got to save
the planet. Really, we think that we can save the planet,
and that's what not only save the planet, but I
would add save Western civilization, because I think that's the
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battle going on right now. The battle going on is
a battle between good and evil. The battle going on
is between freedom and tyranny. And just as when I
say that politics has infected every single aspect of our lives,
one just as little on a side note, that means
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that you and I both need to find times when
we can step aside and step away from that and
not deal with it one hundred percent of the time,
because we should live our lives too. But if politics
has infected everything, then I would say that this fundamental
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transformation has infected the Catholic Church too. So since I'm
not Catholic, it's up to you. I wish you well.
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Talk show host Michael Brown.
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No, Brownie, you're doing a heck of a job the
Weekend with Michael Brown. Well, the Pope is dead. The
Pope has been buried, and I'm sitting here trying to
figure out, trying to decide because I'm not Catholic. Right
up front, I'm not Catholic, and I have nothing against Catholicism.
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In fact, as Michael and I were talking before the
start of the program, when you think about the history
of Catholicism, and you think about how Catholicism has survived
for thousands of years, and Catholicism has survived, the Roman
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Empire survived, you know, all these different empires that have
tried to destroy Catholicism even survived, you know, Protestants, those
who protest the Protestants. It really is amazing how influential
and how amazingly defining Catholicism has been for Western civilization
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writ large. It's a defining force in terms of Western
civilization's morality. It's a defining force. At one time, I
thought in terms of the post World War two American order.
You think about Pope John Paul and what he and
Maggie Thatcher and Ronald Reagan did in terms of breaking
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up the old Soviet Union, bringing down the Berlin Wall,
and essentially, you know, kabashing the old Cold War. Popes
can have an amazing influence, as did Pope Francis, but
the influence that he had may not be the influence
the Catholics will you want to be proud of, But
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I suppose that that depends. And what I find fascinating
about it is some of the things that I've observed
Pope Francis do during his papacy and some of the
things that I have read and studied and learned about
his background is another example of how politics has infused
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everything in our lives everything. I'm not sure they're sure
there's anything that we can do to escape that. And
so I come on air today having I was saying
Michael two before before we started the show, that I
had an event to go to last night, so I
was somewhat late getting home. Late for me anyway, since
(02:45):
I'm you know, usually up every weekday at four thirty. Well,
come Saturday or Sunday, it's hard to sleep past four
thirty because well I've gone to bed a data eight
thirty or something. So I go to this event and
I come home. It's somewhat late, and I and I
crawl in bed and I get it. I get into
bed and I go into a really deep sleep until
(03:07):
about two or three o'clock this morning, and I cannot
get back to sleep. So what I decide to do
is I get up, walk around, you know, get some
lukewarm water and drink that, turn on a little music.
(03:29):
Can't do it, I mean, nothing's working. So I think, oh,
wait a minute, what time is it in Rome? Oh
let's look at let's watch the funeral. So I get
onto YouTube and I I flip back and forth between
the BBC coverage and Fox News coverage, back and forth,
(03:50):
back and forth. So I come to you this morning,
you know, for all the Catholics. My sympathies to all
the Catholics who have lost their their Vicar of Christ,
the the Barker for Saint Peter. But I also question
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what's the Catholic Church going to do next, because now
that the pope is dead, the damage that he did.
In my Protestant opinion, because again I'm going to emphasize,
I'm not Catholic, the damage that he is going to
live on one of them. Without getting into a lot
of the details yet, which we will, you know, he
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appointed more than I forget what the numbers are. I
want to say one hundred and thirty, but that seems high,
but well over one hundred cardinals, and is usually the case,
whether it's a president appointing cabinet members, or it's the
CEO looking for his next CFO or chief Tech Technology
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officer or you know, district managers or whatever it might be.
You tend to find those people that reflect your values.
You tend to find and want to appoint those people
that will carry out your mission, carry out your agenda.
And a pope is no different. The pope is running
an organization. It just happens to be a religious organization,
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but nonetheless he's running a business organization that is a
religious organization that has an amazing amount of influence on
Western civilization. You've probably heard, if you go back in
history about some of at the time. Bishop Bergolios that
(05:41):
his given name his role in collaborating with the Rockefeller
sponsored fascist military Junes in Argentina between nineteen seventy six
nineteen eighty three, which was overseeing the torture murder campaigns
directed by Operation Condor. So there's just a lot of
baggage and there's a lot of things that it just
(06:05):
makes you wonder what will be the role of the
Catholic Church going forward, and who will they appoint. You know,
as human population has grown, there's been this belief that
somehow we are going to destroy Mother Gaia. Well, you know,
(06:29):
Pope Francis was I'm trying to be diplomatic in my language.
Pope Francis was an environmentalist. I would put it this way.
If he were not the Pope, I would say to
you that I always thought he was a member of
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the Church of the climate activists, that he was one
of those people that believe that, you know, fewer people
on the planet and we've got to, you know, focus
on sustainability and we got to clean things up where
we're going to destroy Mother Earth. And I always found
that to be kind of conflicting in my head, because
if God, the Creator created the heavens and the earth
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and then created us in his image, how is it that,
I mean, even if we decide that we're gonna blow
up the Earth with a bunch of nuclear weapons. The
planet will eventually survive anyway, as we've seen in Japan
Proboshman Nagasaki, as we've seen with Fukushimo or Chernobyl, that
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the Earth is able to repair itself and move on.
But he didn't believe that. He really did not believe that.
Referring to the Paris Accords, for example, Pope Francis described
the importance for all Christians to abide by the values
laid out in the Green Agenda, saying this, there is
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no alternative. He said, quote, we can achieve the goals
set by the Paris Agreement only if we act in
a coordinated and responsible way. Those goals are ambitious, and
they can no longer be deferred today. It is up
to you to take the necessary decisions now. Just in
case anyone had an idea of reviving some sort of
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nationalist policies in opposition to the globalizing forces of the
post nation state age which we are supposedly entering right now,
the Pope said this, we can confront these crises by
retreating into isolationism, protectionism and exploitation, or we can see
in them a real chance for change, a genuine movement
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moment of conversion, and not simply in a spiritual sense.
What was he talking about? What did he mean? The
new Christian ethos that was unveiled by Pope Francis saw
humankind saw humans individuals. Because remember, for me anyway, I
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can't speak for everyone else, but for me, I believe
that my salvation is individual and is it is not
dependent upon the collective. My salvation is not dependent upon yours,
nor yours dependent upon mine. But the new Christian ethos
that was unveiled by the Pope Pope Saw saw humankind
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not as a species which could transcend the limits of nature,
as say Prometheus did when he stole fire from the
tyrant god Zeus and gave it to mankind. But in
his worldview, mankind was defined from the standpoint of Zeus,
a creature to remain ignorant, underpopulated, and bound and bound
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to the ecosystems within which he evolved. I I just
don't think that's I don't think that's what it's really about.
So that's that's all I have to say about the Pope.
I don't want to go into much more details, but
that's that's all I say about the Pope. I would
just ask you to, if you're Catholic and if you're
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non Catholic, to try to take an objective look at
some of his teachings and some of the globalist agendas
that he was a part of, and ask yourself where
does that take your church? Next? It's the Weekend with
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Have you heard of the Council for Inclusive cap of
lism I There's just one more thing I want to
say about the Pope and it's and here's why I
think you need to understand why. One why I'm reticent
to talk about it, and that's primarily because I'm not Catholic.
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But the reason that I do want to talk about
it is because I think that Pope Francis infused the
Vatican with which it has its own internal politics. Duh,
but he took it to a different level in terms
of leftist, globalist, Marxist kind of policies, and it just
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bugs me. The Council for Inclusive Capitalism and the Vatican.
Let's talk about that for a moment, but listen to this.
Industrial farming is the single biggest destructive force on the
planet today. Where am I complicit in a war against
the art?
Speaker 2 (11:57):
There's a famous Henry Kissinger quote, which apparently he didn't
even write. Control oil, and you control nations, control food,
and you control people. Regardless of who wrote it, it's
a succinct way to explain what's happening in several nations
on different time scales, but for all the same reason
and orchestrated by the same people.
Speaker 1 (12:19):
Your Royal Highnesses, your excellencies, Laurence, ladies and gentlemen ladies,
welcome is Royal Highness.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
Where remind of distant wars.
Speaker 1 (12:31):
The union impotant power plan.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
They began talking that night about violence. There is an
uncertain future for a strategically.
Speaker 1 (12:40):
Important island nation where economic crisis has now been followed
by political people. Let's go back to twenty twenty. In
twenty twenty, Pope Francis oversaw the merging of the Vatican
with a dubious can I use that word dubious World
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Economic Forum connected entity called the Council for Inclusive Capitalism. Now, anytime,
and I know I'm painting with a broad brush here,
but anytime somebody hooks up with the World Economic Forum,
might I get a little nervous, I get a little paranoid,
and I think, what do you is somebody, for example,
(13:22):
is the World Economic Forum capturing the Vatican? Or is
the Vatican molding into the World Economic Forum? And then
when I hear that it's the Council for Inclusive Capitalism.
And that was in twenty twenty, this name should sound
familiar to you. Mark Carney, Mark Carney running to be
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the next Prime Minister of Canada, the globalist international banker
him and Lynn Forrester de Rothschild. And what was the
Council for Inclusive Capitalism? It wanted to promote quote collective
actions intended to lead to systemic change by making capitalism
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a greater force for inclusivity and sustainability. Oh, sounds like
a green new deal of some sort, doesn't it. Roth's
child described the merger this way. This is a historic
new partnership between some of the world's largest investment business
leaders and the Vatican, joining moral and market i parities
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to reform capitalism into a powerful force for the good
of humanity. Look over your shoulder. Look over your shoulder,
real quickly. Look at all that Look at all that
progress that we've made since the industrial revolution. Look at
all the progress we've made since we decided to start
walking upright. That's because of free markets. That's because of capitalism,
(14:58):
and that's because of humans using their God given brains,
going out and with the ingenuity and the innovation and
their abilities to think beyond just their noses, innovating and
coming up with amazing things that have put us in
the world that we live in today, where we have
all of these amazing technologies, we have all of this
(15:20):
amazing ability to house and feed ourselves. We you know,
fewer and fewer farmers, few and even industrial even you
want to take you to industrial farming. Farming fewer and
fewer people are feeding more and more people every single year.
So what are we doing here to reform capitalism into
(15:46):
a powerful force for the good of humanity it already is. Now,
do I think capitalism is perfect? No? I think many
air quote here capitalists have lost their moral grounding and
so it just becomes chasing the dollar without a moral basis.
(16:08):
Adam Smith talked about you've got to have a moral
basis for capitalism to succeed. Well, I'm not certain that
doing things that are going to reform capitalism to make
it a greater force for inclusivity and sustainability is exactly
what is the kind of moral authority that Adam Smith
(16:29):
was talking about. So this, this group is led by
a core group of world leaders who even call themselves guardians.
It's kind of creepy, isn't it. They include CEOs of
people from State Street, Bank of America, Johnson and Johnson,
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the Rockefeller Foundation, the Ford Foundation, Merk British Petroleum, and
of course all the Rothschild making houses. I wouldn't say
that's exactly the most morally advanced coterie of political heavyweights
one could imagine, right, But still, maybe the evil that
they have been apart for decades has been all arranged
for the sake of a higher good that only the
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elite may be permitted to know about. So what sort
of conversion was Pope Francis implying that the Christian world
engage in by supporting the Paris Climate Accords and the
greening of the world economy because we know at its heart,
at its soul, if you will, that the green economy
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is about what. It's not about green sustainable energy, it's
about population control and human control. Let that sink in.
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text messages, I want to go to them for a
moment because, uh, we joke during the weekday brom about
(19:01):
how text messages can cause me can derail the program. Well,
you guys have success successfully derailed the program today with
a couple of year text messages. Because you've reminded me
of a couple of other things. Goober number zero one
nine five rights Mike. The only problem with Pope Francis
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statement on the Paris Accords was that it was not
directed towards the Chinese government exactly you think about Pope
John Paul went straight on head to head with the Communists,
help bring down the Soviet Union, helped in the Cold War,
(19:44):
But did Pope Francis or the World Economic Forum. Did
any of them ever talk about, Hey, uh, if you're
really concerned about the planet, the Chinese Communist Party needs
to clean up its act. Of course not. It was
directed toward Western Europe and the United States of America.
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And I still believe that goes back to his upbringing
in Argentina or Guba number zero three hundred. I really
appreciate this one, MIKEA or Michael regarding Jorge Burgolio and
the overwhelming majority of a statement and quote teachings for
the past twelve years. One must remember that the Church
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and Catholics are not bound by his prudential words and beliefs,
many of which are in direct opposition to the actual
teaching of the Church. The cleanup of the mess that
he created will make the cleanup after Katrine that look
like a picnic in comparison. I assume you must be Catholic,
(20:47):
and if that's the case, and if that's the perspective
of some Catholics, then I would add and that cleanup
after these nine days of mourning is going to be
more difficult than ever because of his if you will,
stacking the deck when it comes to the College of
Cardinals because again, if he's appointed more than a hundred
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of those, and there will be I forget how many
are actually going to vote. I think I heard one
hundred and thirty are going to vote. You have to
be eighty or younger or something to vote. Well, if
he's If he's done that, then you would assume that
he has done those that would emulate his policies, although
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I would question whether he has been successful in that
or not, because I'm going to make a big assumption here,
and again not being Catholic, I don't know, so somebody
will have to correct me if I'm wrong. But I'm
going to assume that many of the cardinals that were
appointed from from the African continent, or say, from Asia,
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I would assume that those are going to be more
conservative Catholic than he is, simply because of their backgrounds
and what they're dealing with in terms of communism and
poverty and everything else. But I might be wrong about that.
And then Guber number ninety three sixty four wrote, and
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this is what really won, meaning makes me want to
go back to something else, Mike, paraphrasing from the Pope,
build bridges, not walls. Give me a break. The Vatican
is surrounded by walls hypocrisy, and it's worse. Do as
I say, not as I do. I am Catholic, and
I will call this out all day long. If you
really want to understand the reason that I'm dancing around
(22:44):
these issues is go to the Drudge Report. Drudge Report,
drudgereport dot com. Here are the headlines right now. Trump
called out at Pope's funeral, slammed for behavior. Blue suit
draws attention. You wore a blue suit as opposed to
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a dark gray or a black suit. Oh my gosh.
But I clicked on the story about slammed for his behavior,
and what I find is exactly what you were talking
about in the text message, and that is that he
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was called out in front of millions of people in
the eulogy delivered by whoever it was that was delivering
the Pope's eulogy. Who was This is Cardinal Giovanni Battiste Ray,
who delivered the homily, made sure that the late Pope's
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hostility to Trump's immigration policies were not forgotten. This cardinal
said this. Pope Francis incessantly raised his voice, imploring peace
and calling for reason and honest negotiation. To find possible solutions.
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Bill bridges not walls, was an exhortation that he repeated
many times. Trump and France Francis the Pope had clashed repeatedly,
according to this article over the years, beginning in early
twenty sixteen, when Francis criticized Trump's plan to build a
(24:33):
border wall, saying that anyone who thought only of building walls,
not bridges is not Christian. Wow. I find that astonishing,
and I find it interesting too that maybe I don't
remember that. Maybe at the time I commented on it,
but I don't remember that particular point. And apparently, according
(24:57):
to MSN, who are they quoting here, this is from
the Daily Beast, They say that Trump responded angrily, calling
it disgraceful for a religious leader to question his faith
and accusing Mexico of manipulating the Pope. The bitter and
very public exchange saw Trump label Francis as a very
(25:20):
political person. The homley may have only been in implicit rebuke,
the Daily Beast writes, but after such a public clash
over building walls, there can be no mistake that it
was a deliberate and pointed one from the Vatican in
front of millions watching around the world. I think you
can be Christian. In fact, I know you can be
(25:42):
Christian and be opposed to the unmitigated disaster that uncontrolled
immigration is in today's world. If you believe in Western civilization,
if you truly believe in the mores, the values of
Western civilization, then you look at what the Islamists are
(26:07):
doing in Europe and you will understand that Islamis, because
of open borders, are using that to establish their caliphates
in Western Europe. And they do in little spots around
this country, whether it be outside Detroit somewhere, but they
will establish their little caliphates and they are in opposite
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to Western civilization. Now talking about Islam, I'm talking about Islamis.
We can have another debate about Islam, but I'm not
going to do that today. But I'm talking about islamis.
Those who want to impose their radical views of Islam
on a constitutional republic or for that matter, Hell's bells,
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on a monarchy, whether it be the United Kingdom, Norway
or Denmark, or it's another constitutional republic like France, or
a democratic republic like Germany without borders, without having borders
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to protect your sovereignty, and without having controls on immigration,
we're way beyond nation building. We're not doing that. Again,
We're not looking at We're not looking at the vast, unwashed, unconquered,
vastness of North America. That's over and done with. What
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we're looking at are the values that this country and
what those values represent to all of Western civilization. And
if we allow unfettered immigration into this country, unfettered illegal immigration,
we will destroy the very values that this country has
thrived on for centuries, and we will end up a
(27:57):
crap whole country. And of course I argue that we're
on our way to that now. It's just that I
think now we're starting to see some changes to turn
us back the other direction. So again, when you look
at the the posthumous criticism, which I find interesting because
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they want to criticize Trump publicly at this funeral, Yet
you can find online photo after photo after photo of
every world leader trying to rub shoulders with Donald Trump. Now,
of course I know they have self interest, they have
(28:41):
political interests. They may even have a personal interest in
rubbing shoulders with the leader of the free world. They
want to work out a trade agreement, they want to
work out an immigration agreement. They want to work out,
you know, whatever it might be agreements, but it proves
that this country is still the very basis the foundation
(29:06):
for Western civilization. We're the last remaining hope for Western civilization.
And by that I mean a democratic, constitutional republic where
individual liberty and individual freedom reigns supreme, and we have
a limited government that says that should say that our
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number one job is not to keep you safe. Our
number one job is to protect your rights. Because again,
let's take it back to a theological point of view.
I sincerely believe, as long as we're talking about religion,
I sincerely believe that Christ believes that we need to
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live in freedom and liberty. And just as our salvation
is individual, so is our freedom and liberty. And we
just simply carve that little areas where we say we
will act collectively, and those are very, very limited. It's
the Weekend with Michael Brown. Text the word Michael Michael
to three three one zero three go follow me on
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X at Michael Brown USA. I'll be right back. Hey,
So weekend with Michael Brown. Really glad, I am sincerely
really particularly today because as the first of all, the
text line is blowing up, and I really appreciate that,
(30:35):
but a couple of you have told me to quit
tiptoeing around that I, at least to you, I'm speaking
the truth. Well, I'm speaking what I believe to be
the truth about where we are. And in fact, the
most recent text message says, Michael, you know that our
demise was Obama's transformation dream. Remember how Obama wanted to
(30:57):
fundamentally transform this country. Well that's all part of this
globalist effort and the Green New Deal or the environment
however you want to I don't care how you phrase
it or what words you use, but this idea that
Gaya the Earth is the end all and be all,
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and that we've got to do everything we can to
protect it. I'm not saying we should mutilate it or
dirty it up or destroy it. No, not at all.
But what we have to recognize is that what's going
on is an effort to control humans by a very few,
select group of people, and by doing so, taking away
(31:43):
your individual rights and your individual liberties. And I just
find it an affront when I find the leader of
the Roman Catholic Church engaged in that. It is really
worth asking is the Paris are the Paris Climate Accords
(32:04):
and the mandates they contain to create this global decarbonization scheme?
Are they really premised on honest intentions to preserve the
environment and to protect people? Are they really designed for
something else? Were Pope Francis's efforts to rewrite the entire
Catholic Church around the green agenda truly driven by Christian love,
(32:28):
as the Pope is so fond of saying, or was
there something darker at play? The founder of the Club
of Rome, Sir Alexander King, in nineteen ninety one, said this,
and I think this is the truth. It's what there
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when I say the truth, It's what the activists in
the Church of the congregants, in the Church of the
climate activists, this is what their doctrine and dogma is.
Sir Alexander King wrote this, in searching for a new
enemy to unite us, we came up with the idea
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that pollution, the threat of global warming, water shortages, famine
and the like would fit the bill. All these dangers
are caused by human intervention, and it is only through
changed attitudes and behavior that they can be overcome. The
real enemy, then, he wrote, is humanity itself. So if
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the leader of your church believes that humanity, and if
you believe as I do, as the Bible tells us,
that we were made in the image of God, then
how can we be the enemy? How can anybody possibly
believe that? Do you think that John F. Kennedy or
(33:59):
Charles all believe that? I just I just find it
really bizarre that this kind of Marxism, there's really no
other word for it, was pulled into the Catholic Church.
(34:26):
And I don't know, again, maybe because I'm not Catholic,
but I don't know that. I don't personally know of
any other than what I'm getting on the text line
of any Catholics that have verbally said the things that
I have said. But apparently you're out there because you're
reflecting right back to me and even stronger language than
(34:50):
I've used about. Yes, you know, if we banish creative discovery,
if we banish innovation, if we start destroying technology, which
could otherwise truly liberate all these poor slaves and serfs
that apparently the Church is all concerned about, so that
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they can move on to a higher station in life,
so that they remember when Barack Obama told those kids
in Africa that you know, sucks to be you, but
I'm paraphrasing, obviously sucks to be you, but you can't
have air conditioning because you're going to burn up the world.
Well that's basically saying you are stuck in a life
of poverty because we're not going to bring the technology
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and the innovation to you because we got to save
the planet. Really, we think that we can save the planet,
and that's what not only save the planet, but I
would add save Western civilization, because I think that's the
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battle going on right now. The battle going on is
a battle between good and evil. The battle going on
is between freedom and tyranny. And just as when I
say that politics has infected every single aspect of our lives,
one just as little on a side note, that means
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that you and I both need to find times when
we can step aside and step away from that and
not deal with it one hundred percent of the time,
because we should live our lives too. But if politics
has infected everything, then I would say that this fundamental
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transformation has infected the Catholic Church too. So since I'm
not Catholic, it's up to you. I wish you well.
So we came with Michael Brown texta word, Michael Michael
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