June 12, 2025 • 33 mins
There is a battle going on: The battle for your mind. Everyone is trying to convince you that the people who are actually committing crimes (starting fires, resisting arrest, rioting, looting etc.) are not at fault. Instead, it's Trump's fault.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Good morning from Texas. It's our anniversary today, forty nine years.
But my wife says, it only feels like five minutes underwater.
Everyone have a great day.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
So now we're going to get from our listener in
the Dakotas. We're going to get the state by state
itinerary of their trip. Let's see cancel. Yes, I'm still here.
I just got a message on my laptop that says,
are you still here? Why do they care?
Speaker 3 (00:35):
Oh? Unfortunately, are you still here? Are you even here?
Speaker 4 (00:40):
I'm here?
Speaker 2 (00:41):
How are you doing now? In terms of like the
other day, you didn't go to bed until eleven o'clock.
Speaker 4 (00:46):
Not by choice, the body said, no, yeah to earlier
last two nights, Yeah, nine thirty.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
The body's starting to like capitulate.
Speaker 4 (00:56):
Now, don't put that on me. No, I'm not going
to get used to it. No, no, no, oh, don't trust.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
I don't want you to get.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
Used to it, because that just means that when dragon's out,
they're going to turn to you.
Speaker 4 (01:08):
Oh he went for another vacation, didn't another week? He
didn't hear.
Speaker 3 (01:14):
No, you're the one that told me he's gonna be gone.
Get next week?
Speaker 4 (01:16):
Yeah, now is a week after that now.
Speaker 3 (01:18):
Too after that? Also, okay, all right, now thankfully.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
Maybe you know I should actually try to get along sometime.
I mean we haven't in the in the how many
years have we like it's all you? Oh, it's all
me always, well, of course it's it is always about me.
But I even realize that it was always all me
about jointed relationship.
Speaker 3 (01:39):
That we have totally one sided.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
That side, of course, the side where the talent sits.
Speaker 4 (01:48):
That's so weird. They tell me the opposite, just with you.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
I get a name tag that proves it. They have.
They've not revoked my name tag. I still have my
name tag, says tell it.
Speaker 4 (01:56):
I mean, I'm pretty sure this is the Dragon Redbeard Show.
But ever the talent, you know.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
There are some rules of engagement actually referred to it
as the as the Dragon red Beard Show.
Speaker 3 (02:05):
Now that's the name of it. You feel better? Oh okay, I.
Speaker 4 (02:09):
Mean I got his talent Peece, so oh you don't
get talent PE's And what's his talent?
Speaker 3 (02:13):
All right? All right? Awkward?
Speaker 2 (02:15):
Oh, we have some software changes required by our it department.
I do want to say, however, two things happened yesterday
that if Dragon were here, he would not be able
to say to me, you must be new here. Because
two things happened. I submitted a trouble ticket. The audience
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loves this because they know that they have the same
kind of bull you know what, problems in their workplace,
but they can't go on the radio and talk to
you know, bazillions of people about it. I can, and
the bosses down the hallway just don't care. They don't
listen and they don't care. So downstairs where I do
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the Saturday nationally syndicated program, the TV's been on the fritz,
and I put a trouble ticket in. I looked yesterday
because I was curious what had happened, because it was
still wasn't working last Saturday, and I'm curious about this Saturday,
and there was nothing. Nothing had happened at all. However,
by the very fact that I went in and checked,
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it must have sent some signal out, you know, a
bat sign signals to somebody, because then yesterday afternoon late
I get an email that says a note has been
added to your trouble ticket. You had, the note said,
and I'm sure it's one of our engineers, you know
locally that's never here oh, indeed, the television is not working.
(03:42):
I've checked it and confirmed the television is not working.
I will go hunt to see if I can find
a new TV.
Speaker 3 (03:49):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
Now, so that's at least two weeks. We finally got
someone to look at it. The lights that were flashing
that would give anybody an epileptic fit. Those there's still
the nasty, horrible on your eyes light. Fluorescent lights are
no longer flickering like a disco ball or you know,
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some sort of uh strobe light. So we got some
things going for us today. I there's there's I don't
want to talk about the riots until later in the
program because quite frankly, I'm tired of them. So we'll
talk about the riots later. But I'm going to make
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a comment about just a general observation. And I know
you may be thinking to yourself, Michael Brown, master of
the obvious, but it's become so blatant to me that
the cabal and when I and I'm including Fox News
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in this, so Fox News News Nation, CBS, ABC, NBC
News Nation and CNN, MSNBC AN Newsmax, who am I
leaving at? And then of course the Denver compost, all
the local television stations. By the way, I just was
scrolling around through fart and around on Facebook last night.
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Kyle Clark is having an orgasm over the My.
Speaker 3 (05:21):
Pillow Guy's trial going on in Denver. Oh my gosh.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
You should see some of the reels he posts on Facebook.
He's just so ecstatic about. In fact, the caption something
is to the effect the my Pillow Guy Comma election
denier Mike lindelldah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah,
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and so it's obviously he's having a blast with it.
As so as I'm surveying the entire media landscape, I
guess I have to include myself in this too. While
I'm not a journalist, I'm certainly part of the media,
although I'm not anywhere near a member of the cabal.
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And so I come on here and every day I
bring stories that are of interest to me. I really
don't care if you're interested or not, because I've learned
this throughout my entire life. If the person who's giving
a presentation, a speech, or in this case, a radio program,
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if they're not interested in what they're talking about, then
it's going to be.
Speaker 3 (06:34):
Boring, boring, boring.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
I remember one time, only one time, and they didn't
tell me that I had to. But it was when
I don't whether it was when Shanahan resigned from the
Broncos or what, but I was doing evenings or maybe
his afternoons anywhere. It must have been afternoons or something
on KOA and program directors came and said, because because
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we're the home of the Broncosh, you've got to do
something about the resignation. And I don't whether you know,
this is how much I care about professional football. I
didn't know whether it was I don't recall whether it
was Shanahan or somebody else. I'm not sure I can
name all the coaches of the Denver Broncos. And I
don't need text messages listing that either, so don't start that.
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But the message delivered was, somehow you've got to figure
out a way. We're not telling you what to do,
we're not telling you how to do it, we're not
telling you what to say. But Denver, the coach of
the Denver Broncos has resigned. That's topic A. It's KOA.
Somehow you got to weave that into your program.
Speaker 3 (07:43):
Well, I could not care less.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
So I immediately thought, if I if I try to talk
about this, it'll last two seconds and that'll piss somebody
off in management. So how can I do this? So
instead I called Mark Johnson, who at that time was
our sports director. He's the you know, the announcer for
the CU Buffs. Mark Johnson's a great guy. I love
Mark Johnson. And I said, Mark, I'm gonna pickle here
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Shanahan or somebody's resigned and people are gonna want to
ask about it. Can you come on as the expert
and talk about it? And I got him on the
phone and I did two segments of that and said,
that's good enough.
Speaker 3 (08:27):
Move on.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
And I don't know, and I don't care whether the
audience cared about it. I just know that if I
had tried to do it, it would have.
Speaker 3 (08:34):
Been boring, boring, boring.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
So I I'm telling you this because I'm fascinated by this.
There is a battle going on. And the battle that's
going on right now is much more than some riots
in Los Angeles or potential riots in Denver, Chicago, New York.
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I mean, you know, the usual blue cities. But this
right this battle that's going on is the battle for
your mind, and everyone is trying to convince you that
the people who are actually committing crimes, burning cars, assaulting
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police officers, resisting arrest, they're they're they're videos of them looting,
you know, retail outlets in downtown LA, the Apple Store
in downtown LA. You know, they they went through and
they cleared that out. And I'm always amazed by that
because don't and I'm not sure if somebody can explain
this to me, send me a text and explain it.
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But all of the devices that are on display at
an Apple store, they know the serial numbers, and they
can probably even more efficiently than I can. For example,
if I lose my laptop, first of all, I can
track it. So if a Rod tries to seal my laptop,
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I can track it and find oh, it's at a
Rod's house, and I'll just go over and kick his
door in and I'll just get my laptop and walk
out and leave the door just you know, hanging on
its shingees. But I can also if if I if
the laptop is in somebody's car and you know, someone's
speeding down the twenty five headed to New Mahko or
somewhere they're they're gonna disappear. I can I can literally
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destroy the laptop. I can brick it, I can turn
it into a useless brick. Well, if I can do
that to a laptop, an iPad, an iPhone, then every
device that you can see them going through and just
ripping all the phones and all the iPads, grabbing all
the laptops, And I'm thinking, for what I mean, are
they are they gonna sell them for parts? Is that
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what they're gonna do?
Speaker 3 (10:50):
Are Are they.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
Gonna get some third world kid to rip it apart
and get the rare earth minerals out of there and
then go sell it somewhere. I just don't get what
they're doing. But you you watch that happened, and then
the battle for your mind is it's not their fault.
It's not the fault of the people who are committing
the crimes that they're committing the crimes. They're somehow committing
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the crimes because well, in just one word, Trump, everything
that's wrong in the world right now is Trump.
Speaker 3 (11:23):
Now. I don't agree with everything that Trump's doing.
Speaker 2 (11:24):
In fact, I've got a couple of stories today that
may piss you off because there's there are a couple
of things in the big beautiful bill, which remember I
wanted to pass even though there's some things in it
that I don't like. In fact, there's there may be
a couple of things in there that may cause me
to rethink it. I'm not because I think that in
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terms of the economy, we've got to pass this bill,
and in terms of just retail politics and perhaps expanding
our majority in the House and the Senate, really having
a fundamental transformation, a true political realignment in this country.
This bill is one of those pivot points that we
really need.
Speaker 3 (12:06):
To get through.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
But the battle that's going on is to convince you
that what you are watching. And I've always said, you know,
a camera, if you take the nikon that is well,
I'm not gonna tell you it is where it is
right now because some ofo we'll try to steal it.
If if you take my nicon, which I think right
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now might have a eighty two hundred zoom on it,
depending on what focal length I use is going to
determine how much you see. And so a television camera
has got a focal point, and if it's just stationary
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on one point rioters to the left of me, rioters
to the right of me. You're you're really not going
to see those. But if the ca are pans either
to the left or the right, or they zoom out,
then you'll see more. But it doesn't make any difference
whether you see it or not.
Speaker 3 (13:08):
It's happening.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
Just you know, if a tree falls in the forest
and the one's there to hear, it doesn't really make
a sound. Yeah, I guess what it makes it sound.
There are sound waves. There may not be any ears
to interpret that sound wave, but the sound waves are
going out. Well, the riots occur, but somehow the view
and the networks, and particularly the left leaning media is
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all trying to convince you that these really are not riots.
So that led me down the stupid rabbit hole.
Speaker 3 (13:40):
You know.
Speaker 2 (13:41):
The lawyer is you know, I talk about riot, riot, riot,
and yesterday evening late this is.
Speaker 3 (13:50):
This sound. This is how my life goes.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
I said, wait a minute, if I were practicing law
and I was trying to make a case about a riot,
I would the term riot for the jury. So I want,
I want to define the word riot for you, because
this battle that's going on for your mind is trying
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to convince you that one these are not riots, or
that they're just sporadic, which when you think about when
you hear the definition of riot, you're going to say, well,
what does sporadic have.
Speaker 3 (14:25):
To do with it?
Speaker 2 (14:26):
Or it's just two or three people, Well, guess what.
There is actually a legal definition of riot.
Speaker 3 (14:34):
Now.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
States have legal definitions, the federal government has definitions. The
Supreme Court has defined it, so it varies by jurisdiction,
but riot generally refers to a violent public disturbance disturbance
involving a group of people who act together to cause harm,
or to damage property, or to disrupt public order. In fact,
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there is a federal definition of a riot is contained
it eighteen US Code, section twenty one oh two. So
if you're keeping notes in your com law in your
law school notebook for this program, you might want to
write this down eighteen. You at title eighteen, which is
a Criminal Code Title eighteen, section twenty one oh two.
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A riot is defined as a public disturbance involving number
one an act or acts, So it can be a
singular act or it can be a plural acts of
violence by one or more persons. So one person engaged
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in an act of violence under title eighteen is a riot. Yeah,
let me just continue because it changes just a little
bit an act or acts of violence by one or
more persons that are part of an assemblage of three
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or more persons. So you could have me dragon and
a Rod walking down the street, you know, boosom buddies,
just going for a diet coke going you know, it'd
be dragging. So we'll be going for a crumbled cookie.
What's your advice, a Rodoh huh, breakfast burrito, a breakfast burrito. Well,
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crumble cookie wouldn't be well, I don't know. I suppose
crumble cookie would be open at some time that you
could still get a breakfast burrito somewhere. So we're going
somewhere to get breakfast britos and crumble cookies, the three
of us, and we're just like you know, in the
Wizard of Oz, rob were arm in arm and we're
just you're we're hop skipping and jumping down the street
to get crumble cookies and bridles and breakfast burritos. There's
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three of us, so that's an assemblage. So the assemblage
of the talent, the Red Beard and the a Rod
stop skipping and jumping down the street. But the talent decides, now,
because I wouldn't do this, one of the Yahoo producers
would do this. So either a Rod or the Redbeard
decide that they're going to Oh, we just passed the
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Apple store. I think I'll run in there and I'll
just grab everything I can. And by the way, when
I get done, i'm gonna I'm gonna grab an iPad.
I'm gonna throw it through the window, and then I'm
gonna find a car and I'm gonna throw something through
the window of a car. But at one person being
an assembly of three or more people, that constitutes a riot.
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Now let's continue with the definition. So you've got one
or more persons and a group of three at a
minimum of three or more persons, which acts or acts
constitute a clear and present danger of or result in
damage your injury to the property or person of another.
So those acts I just described would meet the definition
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or a threat or threats to commit those acts that
produce a clear and present danger of harm. So whether
it's as long as you got three people, one of
them does anything that's harmful, you got to riot.
Speaker 4 (18:16):
Michael did I hear you right, you have fluorescent lights.
Speaker 2 (18:21):
Still.
Speaker 4 (18:22):
What's going on there.
Speaker 2 (18:24):
Buddy, Oh, i'd say nineteen seventy three, that's what's going on.
Speaker 4 (18:32):
That's being generous.
Speaker 2 (18:34):
Yeah, it probably is being generous, nineteen seventy three. You
guys think that this is some shtick that we've got
going on about the facility, Trust me, it's not.
Speaker 3 (18:45):
It is not.
Speaker 2 (18:47):
You know we joke about. We keep getting messages about
you need to activate Windows. We actually get it. It's
not up there. Oh no, it is right there. It's
still on there. You need to activate this version of
wedding of Windows. You go to settings to activate Windows.
Speaker 3 (19:05):
I'm telling you it's Windows one. Right. We'll get XP
in twenty years.
Speaker 2 (19:11):
Yeah, only if they can find a CD ROM somewhere
and a CD realm drive.
Speaker 4 (19:18):
Again being generous, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (19:20):
Again, being generous. So back back to.
Speaker 4 (19:23):
Riot blue rays coming around soon?
Speaker 2 (19:26):
Oh, maybe we can get blue rays someday, or beta,
Maybe we get beta.
Speaker 3 (19:33):
Oh.
Speaker 2 (19:34):
I'm just happy to at least in this studio to
have windows so I can have some natural light to
offset the fluorescence. Hand cranks, hand cranks, right, get get
those chipmunks running around.
Speaker 3 (19:47):
Those gerbils Gerbils. We'll have Gerbils in this building as well.
We'll have with Gerbils.
Speaker 4 (19:53):
Now.
Speaker 2 (19:53):
So there's a federal there's a federal statue defining a riot.
And if you think of everything that you've been here
for for the entire week, now there's no riot. No,
there's no riots whatsoever. You just don't understand how these were.
Speaker 3 (20:14):
Well, let's just go to the view.
Speaker 5 (20:15):
But are people getting a much different view of what's
going on in La depending on where they're watching this
play out? Because it's it's quite different when you're talking
to people in La, Yeah, and very different than what
you're seeing on the people.
Speaker 2 (20:32):
You know that that's like the weather. So the might
well i'll give you an example now. You know I
talked about my mom a lot because obviously I love
my mom, but I had to put her in the
hospital this week. But when when the dirt bag and
boulder through the Molotov cocktails and had his homemade flamethrower,
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I got I got a call that at night.
Speaker 3 (21:01):
I missed it.
Speaker 2 (21:01):
I don't know, I had my ringer off or something,
but I had a voicemail from Mom all concerned about
where we Okay, Well, Mom at ninety four, doesn't really
remember that we no longer live in Boulder, and we
haven't lived in Boulder for twenty five years.
Speaker 3 (21:22):
And she does not.
Speaker 2 (21:25):
Comprehend the distance between Douglas County and Boulder County, or
where we live in Island's Ranch versus where we lived
never actually in the city in county. We lived in
Boulder County, in the mountains north of Boulder. So she
didn't comprehend that, But in her mind, it's, oh, something's
bad going on. You know, we have tornadoes on the
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eastern plains, and we can have a huge thunderstorm that
actually shuts down you know, the weatherproof airport that we built,
that could actually shut down the airport while I'm out
walking the dogs and sunshine. So when Whoopee talks about well, depends,
you know, depends you talk to in La. Well, yeah,
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you call somebody you know sitting in Malibu that no
nothing going on here. In fact, in fact, I went
the Whole Foods today and got some really nice stuff
and we're gonna we're gonna grill this evening and blah
blah blah blah.
Speaker 3 (22:19):
I mean, this is just this is idiocy. Have you
spoken to people in LA. My whole families and what
did they say?
Speaker 5 (22:25):
They're saying, you know, people are mad. It's been peaceful
for days, and then suddenly these guys showed up and
flipped everybody out.
Speaker 2 (22:35):
Yeah, it's been peaceful again. This is this is and
I know it's the view, but when I play soundbites
from the view, it's not really about the view. It's
about the people that watch the view. So they're telling
their useful idiots that, yeah, my whole family lives there
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and everything was just peaceful and clay, and then some
guys showed up and then everything went to hell in
a hand basket.
Speaker 3 (23:04):
Well who are those guys? Oh yeah, the National Guard.
Speaker 5 (23:08):
Yeah, so that's what That's what my family has said.
Speaker 4 (23:10):
I heard the same thing.
Speaker 6 (23:11):
I spoke to about five people that live in LA.
Speaker 2 (23:14):
That what's the population of LA. It's got to be
you know, how many millions? And Sonny talked to five people.
She talked to five.
Speaker 6 (23:23):
People work in LA and they said that these protests.
Speaker 2 (23:27):
Three point so whatever, the point zero zero zero, zero
zero percent.
Speaker 3 (23:31):
Of that is.
Speaker 2 (23:32):
That's how many people that Sonny talked to out of
three point five three point eight.
Speaker 4 (23:36):
Million were very, very.
Speaker 6 (23:40):
Orderly, they weren't violent, and they occurred in about a
four block radius, and we all know.
Speaker 2 (23:47):
Oh so it's just you know, it was just containing
to a four block radius. So nothing to see here.
The definition of her riot that I gave you title eighteen,
no geographical boundary. It's the act. It's not the location.
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It's not the boundary. It's the act, your dumb ass.
Speaker 4 (24:13):
Oh how large LA is?
Speaker 6 (24:15):
And so in my view, there is no crisis in
Los Angeles that ICE did not cost.
Speaker 4 (24:21):
That is the fact of the matter. Right, looks like that.
Speaker 2 (24:26):
See that's why now I know, Look, I know how
these shows operate. I know the applause sign and the
audience manager came out and got everybody to applause. But nonetheless,
there are probably people in the audience who did on
their own voluntarily applause.
Speaker 3 (24:41):
Oh yes, yes, yes, yes, you're so brilliant, brilliant, thank you,
thank you.
Speaker 6 (24:47):
Because well, Trump, we now know that Stephen Miller ordered
his order that they arrest three thousand people a day,
that ICE arrest three thousand people people a day led.
Speaker 2 (25:00):
To this, and okay, so three thousand people a day,
so what there are twenty million illegal aliens in the country.
We're still going to be working our butts off trying
to get all that done. Now, think about state law.
So I define for you Title eighteen, section twenty one
oh two, the federal definition of a riot. Well, let's
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go to Penal Code section four oh four for the
state of California. A riot is any use of force
or violence, or the threat thereof by two or more
persons acting together without lawful authority that disturbs the peace. So,
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as long as you know both federal and state definitions,
there's got to be a group, but the entire group
does not have to engage in the acts. Any One
person out of the group can do something that is
either violent or disorderly or just you know, generically speaking, unlawful,
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and they have to have the intent to disturb the
piece or to cause harm or damage. Okay, let's think
about the intent. If you pick up a rock, you know,
they're along the mediums of you know, some of these streets.
You pick up the river rock that's there, and the
ice car goes driving by, and you step.
Speaker 3 (26:28):
Off the curb and you hurl the rock.
Speaker 2 (26:31):
At the either the driver's side window or the windshield
of the car. I think that is an intent to
either disturb the public piece or to cause harmon damage,
And in fact, I don't think that you can interpret
it any other way. Now, legal definitions might also distinguish
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riots from terms like an unlawful assembly, where they're not
necessarily doing anything to cause harm or damage, but for
peacekeeping purposes, for riot control or to prevent the the
group from impeding the flow of traffic.
Speaker 3 (27:12):
You could declare.
Speaker 2 (27:13):
Law enforcement could declare and unlawful assembly and order you
to disperse, And if you fail to disperse, then that's
an unlawful assembly and you could be arrested for that,
or you could be out creating a civil disturbance, you know,
shutting down the freeway. And there's no US Supreme Court
that explicitly centers on defining the term riot as the
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primary issue, but there are cases that involve the Federal
Anti Riot Act. Oh so there's an Anti Riot Act
that's also in Title eighteen. Again, go back to the
definite the very beginning. It starts at section twenty one
oh two that kind of clarifies the boundaries between protected
speech and conduct that constitutes or incites a riot. And
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you know, the most famous case is probably brand Brandenburg
versus Ohio. That's where a KKK leader was convicted under
an Ohio state statute for inflammatory speech at a rally
where this kk if I remember my case law correctly,
he was calling for revengeance and actually trying to incite
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the crowd to commit violent acts against these Ohio government officials.
And the court was trying to struggling with whether that
speech constituted an incitement to illegal activities such as a riot.
And the court held that that speech is not protected
if it is directed to inciting or producing imminent lawless
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action and is likely to incite or produce such such action.
So they actually struck down the Ohio statute for being
overly broad in the ultimate decision of the court. So this,
all of this bull craft that's going on is is
designed to and I'm not saying everybody in the country
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ought to be a lawyer. In fact, we have too
many lawyers. But kill all the lawyers, right.
Speaker 1 (29:21):
But.
Speaker 2 (29:23):
What's really going on is a battle for the minds
of people. So those who don't do any critical thinking,
I would say those are the people that watched the view,
would listen to somebody like Sonny and say, I, you know,
I talked to five people. I called five friends in
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LA and they said, no, everything's fine. And there were
some spots but where there was violence that was caused
because some men in uniform showed up. Oh so, I
guess if you're gonna rob the bank and the cop
cars show up, then it's their fault that you're robbing
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the bank. That's that's their logic. It makes my head hurt.
Speaker 7 (30:12):
Good morning, Michael. I am just scratching my head at
the fact that Muscum is asking the courts to stop
Trump from sending troops. I get it military shouldn't be
used on American citizens, but wait, are they citizens that
are destroying LA? I just like cannot wrap my head
(30:32):
around this insanity that we're living. It's okay to break
the lawn, come here illegally, and then destroy the cities.
Speaker 2 (30:41):
You make a good point about when you say should
the US military be used against American citizens, and generally speaking,
the answer to that is no, it should not. And
that's why we have Posse commatatis, which prevents the use
of troops against American citizens with an exception, and that
(31:05):
exceptionist is contained in the Insurrection Act. So that if
there is an insurrection, and I'm not talking about a
January six, although I suppose if depending on your point
of view about January six, you could have declared that
an insurrection. And I'm not really sure. I mean, you
(31:26):
couldn't have litigated that in time. Well you may have
gotten a temporary restraining order.
Speaker 3 (31:31):
But you can.
Speaker 2 (31:33):
And I'm telling you that I actually know that from
practical experience, having and somebody sent me a I forget
maybe it was Steve I retired LEO, but somebody had
asked me about if i'd read Carl Rove's book when
(31:53):
Karl Rove left the administration, and he said the same
thing that I've always been saying. So if you don't
believe me, you can believe Carl Rove. That we were
on Air Force one, going and putting the paperwork together
to invoke the Insurrection Act wave posse commentatus, so that
I could put federal troops on the ground in New
Orleans because the New Orleans Police Department had collapsed, literally collapsed,
(32:20):
and in order to restore law and order, I wanted troops.
Speaker 4 (32:25):
On the ground.
Speaker 2 (32:27):
Now, we ended up not doing it because the governor
wanted twenty four hours to think about it. So instead
I got General Honorey and I started talking to Honorey
about sending National Guard troops into the convention Center because
we had no situational awareness of what was going on
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there to find out what was going on. And I'll
never forget his comment to me, now, I will not
send my troops in there. I will, however, or I
will find somebody, an undercover police officer or a detective.
Speaker 3 (33:04):
We got.
Speaker 2 (33:05):
We had people from New York and Chicago and LA
and everywhere to help us. We'll send some undercover people
in to kind of spy and find out what's going on.
And his logic was this, I don't want to send
my troops in there because if there are some thugs
in there to start shooting at my troops, they're going.
Speaker 3 (33:22):
To shoot back.
Speaker 2 (33:23):
And I don't think you want American soldiers shooting American citizens. Well,
let me tell you who does want that. The rioters,
the agents provocateur in Los Angeles. That is precisely what
they're looking for.
Good morning from Texas. It's our anniversary today, forty nine years.
But my wife says, it only feels like five minutes underwater.
Everyone have a great day.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
So now we're going to get from our listener in
the Dakotas. We're going to get the state by state
itinerary of their trip. Let's see cancel. Yes, I'm still here.
I just got a message on my laptop that says,
are you still here? Why do they care?
Speaker 3 (00:35):
Oh? Unfortunately, are you still here? Are you even here?
Speaker 4 (00:40):
I'm here?
Speaker 2 (00:41):
How are you doing now? In terms of like the
other day, you didn't go to bed until eleven o'clock.
Speaker 4 (00:46):
Not by choice, the body said, no, yeah to earlier
last two nights, Yeah, nine thirty.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
The body's starting to like capitulate.
Speaker 4 (00:56):
Now, don't put that on me. No, I'm not going
to get used to it. No, no, no, oh, don't trust.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
I don't want you to get.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
Used to it, because that just means that when dragon's out,
they're going to turn to you.
Speaker 4 (01:08):
Oh he went for another vacation, didn't another week? He
didn't hear.
Speaker 3 (01:14):
No, you're the one that told me he's gonna be gone.
Get next week?
Speaker 4 (01:16):
Yeah, now is a week after that now.
Speaker 3 (01:18):
Too after that? Also, okay, all right, now thankfully.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
Maybe you know I should actually try to get along sometime.
I mean we haven't in the in the how many
years have we like it's all you? Oh, it's all
me always, well, of course it's it is always about me.
But I even realize that it was always all me
about jointed relationship.
Speaker 3 (01:39):
That we have totally one sided.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
That side, of course, the side where the talent sits.
Speaker 4 (01:48):
That's so weird. They tell me the opposite, just with you.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
I get a name tag that proves it. They have.
They've not revoked my name tag. I still have my
name tag, says tell it.
Speaker 4 (01:56):
I mean, I'm pretty sure this is the Dragon Redbeard Show.
But ever the talent, you know.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
There are some rules of engagement actually referred to it
as the as the Dragon red Beard Show.
Speaker 3 (02:05):
Now that's the name of it. You feel better? Oh okay, I.
Speaker 4 (02:09):
Mean I got his talent Peece, so oh you don't
get talent PE's And what's his talent?
Speaker 3 (02:13):
All right? All right? Awkward?
Speaker 2 (02:15):
Oh, we have some software changes required by our it department.
I do want to say, however, two things happened yesterday
that if Dragon were here, he would not be able
to say to me, you must be new here. Because
two things happened. I submitted a trouble ticket. The audience
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loves this because they know that they have the same
kind of bull you know what, problems in their workplace,
but they can't go on the radio and talk to
you know, bazillions of people about it. I can, and
the bosses down the hallway just don't care. They don't
listen and they don't care. So downstairs where I do
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the Saturday nationally syndicated program, the TV's been on the fritz,
and I put a trouble ticket in. I looked yesterday
because I was curious what had happened, because it was
still wasn't working last Saturday, and I'm curious about this Saturday,
and there was nothing. Nothing had happened at all. However,
by the very fact that I went in and checked,
(03:18):
it must have sent some signal out, you know, a
bat sign signals to somebody, because then yesterday afternoon late
I get an email that says a note has been
added to your trouble ticket. You had, the note said,
and I'm sure it's one of our engineers, you know
locally that's never here oh, indeed, the television is not working.
(03:42):
I've checked it and confirmed the television is not working.
I will go hunt to see if I can find
a new TV.
Speaker 3 (03:49):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
Now, so that's at least two weeks. We finally got
someone to look at it. The lights that were flashing
that would give anybody an epileptic fit. Those there's still
the nasty, horrible on your eyes light. Fluorescent lights are
no longer flickering like a disco ball or you know,
(04:12):
some sort of uh strobe light. So we got some
things going for us today. I there's there's I don't
want to talk about the riots until later in the
program because quite frankly, I'm tired of them. So we'll
talk about the riots later. But I'm going to make
(04:33):
a comment about just a general observation. And I know
you may be thinking to yourself, Michael Brown, master of
the obvious, but it's become so blatant to me that
the cabal and when I and I'm including Fox News
(04:54):
in this, so Fox News News Nation, CBS, ABC, NBC
News Nation and CNN, MSNBC AN Newsmax, who am I
leaving at? And then of course the Denver compost, all
the local television stations. By the way, I just was
scrolling around through fart and around on Facebook last night.
(05:15):
Kyle Clark is having an orgasm over the My.
Speaker 3 (05:21):
Pillow Guy's trial going on in Denver. Oh my gosh.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
You should see some of the reels he posts on Facebook.
He's just so ecstatic about. In fact, the caption something
is to the effect the my Pillow Guy Comma election
denier Mike lindelldah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah,
(05:45):
and so it's obviously he's having a blast with it.
As so as I'm surveying the entire media landscape, I
guess I have to include myself in this too. While
I'm not a journalist, I'm certainly part of the media,
although I'm not anywhere near a member of the cabal.
(06:07):
And so I come on here and every day I
bring stories that are of interest to me. I really
don't care if you're interested or not, because I've learned
this throughout my entire life. If the person who's giving
a presentation, a speech, or in this case, a radio program,
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if they're not interested in what they're talking about, then
it's going to be.
Speaker 3 (06:34):
Boring, boring, boring.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
I remember one time, only one time, and they didn't
tell me that I had to. But it was when
I don't whether it was when Shanahan resigned from the
Broncos or what, but I was doing evenings or maybe
his afternoons anywhere. It must have been afternoons or something
on KOA and program directors came and said, because because
(07:00):
we're the home of the Broncosh, you've got to do
something about the resignation. And I don't whether you know,
this is how much I care about professional football. I
didn't know whether it was I don't recall whether it
was Shanahan or somebody else. I'm not sure I can
name all the coaches of the Denver Broncos. And I
don't need text messages listing that either, so don't start that.
(07:24):
But the message delivered was, somehow you've got to figure
out a way. We're not telling you what to do,
we're not telling you how to do it, we're not
telling you what to say. But Denver, the coach of
the Denver Broncos has resigned. That's topic A. It's KOA.
Somehow you got to weave that into your program.
Speaker 3 (07:43):
Well, I could not care less.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
So I immediately thought, if I if I try to talk
about this, it'll last two seconds and that'll piss somebody
off in management. So how can I do this? So
instead I called Mark Johnson, who at that time was
our sports director. He's the you know, the announcer for
the CU Buffs. Mark Johnson's a great guy. I love
Mark Johnson. And I said, Mark, I'm gonna pickle here
(08:13):
Shanahan or somebody's resigned and people are gonna want to
ask about it. Can you come on as the expert
and talk about it? And I got him on the
phone and I did two segments of that and said,
that's good enough.
Speaker 3 (08:27):
Move on.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
And I don't know, and I don't care whether the
audience cared about it. I just know that if I
had tried to do it, it would have.
Speaker 3 (08:34):
Been boring, boring, boring.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
So I I'm telling you this because I'm fascinated by this.
There is a battle going on. And the battle that's
going on right now is much more than some riots
in Los Angeles or potential riots in Denver, Chicago, New York.
(08:59):
I mean, you know, the usual blue cities. But this
right this battle that's going on is the battle for
your mind, and everyone is trying to convince you that
the people who are actually committing crimes, burning cars, assaulting
(09:23):
police officers, resisting arrest, they're they're they're videos of them looting,
you know, retail outlets in downtown LA, the Apple Store
in downtown LA. You know, they they went through and
they cleared that out. And I'm always amazed by that
because don't and I'm not sure if somebody can explain
this to me, send me a text and explain it.
(09:44):
But all of the devices that are on display at
an Apple store, they know the serial numbers, and they
can probably even more efficiently than I can. For example,
if I lose my laptop, first of all, I can
track it. So if a Rod tries to seal my laptop,
(10:05):
I can track it and find oh, it's at a
Rod's house, and I'll just go over and kick his
door in and I'll just get my laptop and walk
out and leave the door just you know, hanging on
its shingees. But I can also if if I if
the laptop is in somebody's car and you know, someone's
speeding down the twenty five headed to New Mahko or
somewhere they're they're gonna disappear. I can I can literally
(10:28):
destroy the laptop. I can brick it, I can turn
it into a useless brick. Well, if I can do
that to a laptop, an iPad, an iPhone, then every
device that you can see them going through and just
ripping all the phones and all the iPads, grabbing all
the laptops, And I'm thinking, for what I mean, are
they are they gonna sell them for parts? Is that
(10:49):
what they're gonna do?
Speaker 3 (10:50):
Are Are they.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
Gonna get some third world kid to rip it apart
and get the rare earth minerals out of there and
then go sell it somewhere. I just don't get what
they're doing. But you you watch that happened, and then
the battle for your mind is it's not their fault.
It's not the fault of the people who are committing
the crimes that they're committing the crimes. They're somehow committing
(11:13):
the crimes because well, in just one word, Trump, everything
that's wrong in the world right now is Trump.
Speaker 3 (11:23):
Now. I don't agree with everything that Trump's doing.
Speaker 2 (11:24):
In fact, I've got a couple of stories today that
may piss you off because there's there are a couple
of things in the big beautiful bill, which remember I
wanted to pass even though there's some things in it
that I don't like. In fact, there's there may be
a couple of things in there that may cause me
to rethink it. I'm not because I think that in
(11:46):
terms of the economy, we've got to pass this bill,
and in terms of just retail politics and perhaps expanding
our majority in the House and the Senate, really having
a fundamental transformation, a true political realignment in this country.
This bill is one of those pivot points that we
really need.
Speaker 3 (12:06):
To get through.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
But the battle that's going on is to convince you
that what you are watching. And I've always said, you know,
a camera, if you take the nikon that is well,
I'm not gonna tell you it is where it is
right now because some ofo we'll try to steal it.
If if you take my nicon, which I think right
(12:29):
now might have a eighty two hundred zoom on it,
depending on what focal length I use is going to
determine how much you see. And so a television camera
has got a focal point, and if it's just stationary
(12:50):
on one point rioters to the left of me, rioters
to the right of me. You're you're really not going
to see those. But if the ca are pans either
to the left or the right, or they zoom out,
then you'll see more. But it doesn't make any difference
whether you see it or not.
Speaker 3 (13:08):
It's happening.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
Just you know, if a tree falls in the forest
and the one's there to hear, it doesn't really make
a sound. Yeah, I guess what it makes it sound.
There are sound waves. There may not be any ears
to interpret that sound wave, but the sound waves are
going out. Well, the riots occur, but somehow the view
and the networks, and particularly the left leaning media is
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all trying to convince you that these really are not riots.
So that led me down the stupid rabbit hole.
Speaker 3 (13:40):
You know.
Speaker 2 (13:41):
The lawyer is you know, I talk about riot, riot, riot,
and yesterday evening late this is.
Speaker 3 (13:50):
This sound. This is how my life goes.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
I said, wait a minute, if I were practicing law
and I was trying to make a case about a riot,
I would the term riot for the jury. So I want,
I want to define the word riot for you, because
this battle that's going on for your mind is trying
(14:13):
to convince you that one these are not riots, or
that they're just sporadic, which when you think about when
you hear the definition of riot, you're going to say, well,
what does sporadic have.
Speaker 3 (14:25):
To do with it?
Speaker 2 (14:26):
Or it's just two or three people, Well, guess what.
There is actually a legal definition of riot.
Speaker 3 (14:34):
Now.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
States have legal definitions, the federal government has definitions. The
Supreme Court has defined it, so it varies by jurisdiction,
but riot generally refers to a violent public disturbance disturbance
involving a group of people who act together to cause harm,
or to damage property, or to disrupt public order. In fact,
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there is a federal definition of a riot is contained
it eighteen US Code, section twenty one oh two. So
if you're keeping notes in your com law in your
law school notebook for this program, you might want to
write this down eighteen. You at title eighteen, which is
a Criminal Code Title eighteen, section twenty one oh two.
(15:21):
A riot is defined as a public disturbance involving number
one an act or acts, So it can be a
singular act or it can be a plural acts of
violence by one or more persons. So one person engaged
(15:44):
in an act of violence under title eighteen is a riot. Yeah,
let me just continue because it changes just a little
bit an act or acts of violence by one or
more persons that are part of an assemblage of three
(16:06):
or more persons. So you could have me dragon and
a Rod walking down the street, you know, boosom buddies,
just going for a diet coke going you know, it'd
be dragging. So we'll be going for a crumbled cookie.
What's your advice, a Rodoh huh, breakfast burrito, a breakfast burrito. Well,
(16:29):
crumble cookie wouldn't be well, I don't know. I suppose
crumble cookie would be open at some time that you
could still get a breakfast burrito somewhere. So we're going
somewhere to get breakfast britos and crumble cookies, the three
of us, and we're just like you know, in the
Wizard of Oz, rob were arm in arm and we're
just you're we're hop skipping and jumping down the street
to get crumble cookies and bridles and breakfast burritos. There's
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three of us, so that's an assemblage. So the assemblage
of the talent, the Red Beard and the a Rod
stop skipping and jumping down the street. But the talent decides, now,
because I wouldn't do this, one of the Yahoo producers
would do this. So either a Rod or the Redbeard
decide that they're going to Oh, we just passed the
(17:15):
Apple store. I think I'll run in there and I'll
just grab everything I can. And by the way, when
I get done, i'm gonna I'm gonna grab an iPad.
I'm gonna throw it through the window, and then I'm
gonna find a car and I'm gonna throw something through
the window of a car. But at one person being
an assembly of three or more people, that constitutes a riot.
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Now let's continue with the definition. So you've got one
or more persons and a group of three at a
minimum of three or more persons, which acts or acts
constitute a clear and present danger of or result in
damage your injury to the property or person of another.
So those acts I just described would meet the definition
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or a threat or threats to commit those acts that
produce a clear and present danger of harm. So whether
it's as long as you got three people, one of
them does anything that's harmful, you got to riot.
Speaker 4 (18:16):
Michael did I hear you right, you have fluorescent lights.
Speaker 2 (18:21):
Still.
Speaker 4 (18:22):
What's going on there.
Speaker 2 (18:24):
Buddy, Oh, i'd say nineteen seventy three, that's what's going on.
Speaker 4 (18:32):
That's being generous.
Speaker 2 (18:34):
Yeah, it probably is being generous, nineteen seventy three. You
guys think that this is some shtick that we've got
going on about the facility, Trust me, it's not.
Speaker 3 (18:45):
It is not.
Speaker 2 (18:47):
You know we joke about. We keep getting messages about
you need to activate Windows. We actually get it. It's
not up there. Oh no, it is right there. It's
still on there. You need to activate this version of
wedding of Windows. You go to settings to activate Windows.
Speaker 3 (19:05):
I'm telling you it's Windows one. Right. We'll get XP
in twenty years.
Speaker 2 (19:11):
Yeah, only if they can find a CD ROM somewhere
and a CD realm drive.
Speaker 4 (19:18):
Again being generous, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (19:20):
Again, being generous. So back back to.
Speaker 4 (19:23):
Riot blue rays coming around soon?
Speaker 2 (19:26):
Oh, maybe we can get blue rays someday, or beta,
Maybe we get beta.
Speaker 3 (19:33):
Oh.
Speaker 2 (19:34):
I'm just happy to at least in this studio to
have windows so I can have some natural light to
offset the fluorescence. Hand cranks, hand cranks, right, get get
those chipmunks running around.
Speaker 3 (19:47):
Those gerbils Gerbils. We'll have Gerbils in this building as well.
We'll have with Gerbils.
Speaker 4 (19:53):
Now.
Speaker 2 (19:53):
So there's a federal there's a federal statue defining a riot.
And if you think of everything that you've been here
for for the entire week, now there's no riot. No,
there's no riots whatsoever. You just don't understand how these were.
Speaker 3 (20:14):
Well, let's just go to the view.
Speaker 5 (20:15):
But are people getting a much different view of what's
going on in La depending on where they're watching this
play out? Because it's it's quite different when you're talking
to people in La, Yeah, and very different than what
you're seeing on the people.
Speaker 2 (20:32):
You know that that's like the weather. So the might
well i'll give you an example now. You know I
talked about my mom a lot because obviously I love
my mom, but I had to put her in the
hospital this week. But when when the dirt bag and
boulder through the Molotov cocktails and had his homemade flamethrower,
(20:58):
I got I got a call that at night.
Speaker 3 (21:01):
I missed it.
Speaker 2 (21:01):
I don't know, I had my ringer off or something,
but I had a voicemail from Mom all concerned about
where we Okay, Well, Mom at ninety four, doesn't really
remember that we no longer live in Boulder, and we
haven't lived in Boulder for twenty five years.
Speaker 3 (21:22):
And she does not.
Speaker 2 (21:25):
Comprehend the distance between Douglas County and Boulder County, or
where we live in Island's Ranch versus where we lived
never actually in the city in county. We lived in
Boulder County, in the mountains north of Boulder. So she
didn't comprehend that, But in her mind, it's, oh, something's
bad going on. You know, we have tornadoes on the
(21:48):
eastern plains, and we can have a huge thunderstorm that
actually shuts down you know, the weatherproof airport that we built,
that could actually shut down the airport while I'm out
walking the dogs and sunshine. So when Whoopee talks about well, depends,
you know, depends you talk to in La. Well, yeah,
(22:08):
you call somebody you know sitting in Malibu that no
nothing going on here. In fact, in fact, I went
the Whole Foods today and got some really nice stuff
and we're gonna we're gonna grill this evening and blah
blah blah blah.
Speaker 3 (22:19):
I mean, this is just this is idiocy. Have you
spoken to people in LA. My whole families and what
did they say?
Speaker 5 (22:25):
They're saying, you know, people are mad. It's been peaceful
for days, and then suddenly these guys showed up and
flipped everybody out.
Speaker 2 (22:35):
Yeah, it's been peaceful again. This is this is and
I know it's the view, but when I play soundbites
from the view, it's not really about the view. It's
about the people that watch the view. So they're telling
their useful idiots that, yeah, my whole family lives there
(22:58):
and everything was just peaceful and clay, and then some
guys showed up and then everything went to hell in
a hand basket.
Speaker 3 (23:04):
Well who are those guys? Oh yeah, the National Guard.
Speaker 5 (23:08):
Yeah, so that's what That's what my family has said.
Speaker 4 (23:10):
I heard the same thing.
Speaker 6 (23:11):
I spoke to about five people that live in LA.
Speaker 2 (23:14):
That what's the population of LA. It's got to be
you know, how many millions? And Sonny talked to five people.
She talked to five.
Speaker 6 (23:23):
People work in LA and they said that these protests.
Speaker 2 (23:27):
Three point so whatever, the point zero zero zero, zero
zero percent.
Speaker 3 (23:31):
Of that is.
Speaker 2 (23:32):
That's how many people that Sonny talked to out of
three point five three point eight.
Speaker 4 (23:36):
Million were very, very.
Speaker 6 (23:40):
Orderly, they weren't violent, and they occurred in about a
four block radius, and we all know.
Speaker 2 (23:47):
Oh so it's just you know, it was just containing
to a four block radius. So nothing to see here.
The definition of her riot that I gave you title eighteen,
no geographical boundary. It's the act. It's not the location.
(24:08):
It's not the boundary. It's the act, your dumb ass.
Speaker 4 (24:13):
Oh how large LA is?
Speaker 6 (24:15):
And so in my view, there is no crisis in
Los Angeles that ICE did not cost.
Speaker 4 (24:21):
That is the fact of the matter. Right, looks like that.
Speaker 2 (24:26):
See that's why now I know, Look, I know how
these shows operate. I know the applause sign and the
audience manager came out and got everybody to applause. But nonetheless,
there are probably people in the audience who did on
their own voluntarily applause.
Speaker 3 (24:41):
Oh yes, yes, yes, yes, you're so brilliant, brilliant, thank you,
thank you.
Speaker 6 (24:47):
Because well, Trump, we now know that Stephen Miller ordered
his order that they arrest three thousand people a day,
that ICE arrest three thousand people people a day led.
Speaker 2 (25:00):
To this, and okay, so three thousand people a day,
so what there are twenty million illegal aliens in the country.
We're still going to be working our butts off trying
to get all that done. Now, think about state law.
So I define for you Title eighteen, section twenty one
oh two, the federal definition of a riot. Well, let's
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go to Penal Code section four oh four for the
state of California. A riot is any use of force
or violence, or the threat thereof by two or more
persons acting together without lawful authority that disturbs the peace. So,
(25:46):
as long as you know both federal and state definitions,
there's got to be a group, but the entire group
does not have to engage in the acts. Any One
person out of the group can do something that is
either violent or disorderly or just you know, generically speaking, unlawful,
(26:07):
and they have to have the intent to disturb the
piece or to cause harm or damage. Okay, let's think
about the intent. If you pick up a rock, you know,
they're along the mediums of you know, some of these streets.
You pick up the river rock that's there, and the
ice car goes driving by, and you step.
Speaker 3 (26:28):
Off the curb and you hurl the rock.
Speaker 2 (26:31):
At the either the driver's side window or the windshield
of the car. I think that is an intent to
either disturb the public piece or to cause harmon damage,
And in fact, I don't think that you can interpret
it any other way. Now, legal definitions might also distinguish
(26:53):
riots from terms like an unlawful assembly, where they're not
necessarily doing anything to cause harm or damage, but for
peacekeeping purposes, for riot control or to prevent the the
group from impeding the flow of traffic.
Speaker 3 (27:12):
You could declare.
Speaker 2 (27:13):
Law enforcement could declare and unlawful assembly and order you
to disperse, And if you fail to disperse, then that's
an unlawful assembly and you could be arrested for that,
or you could be out creating a civil disturbance, you know,
shutting down the freeway. And there's no US Supreme Court
that explicitly centers on defining the term riot as the
(27:36):
primary issue, but there are cases that involve the Federal
Anti Riot Act. Oh so there's an Anti Riot Act
that's also in Title eighteen. Again, go back to the
definite the very beginning. It starts at section twenty one
oh two that kind of clarifies the boundaries between protected
speech and conduct that constitutes or incites a riot. And
(28:00):
you know, the most famous case is probably brand Brandenburg
versus Ohio. That's where a KKK leader was convicted under
an Ohio state statute for inflammatory speech at a rally
where this kk if I remember my case law correctly,
he was calling for revengeance and actually trying to incite
(28:25):
the crowd to commit violent acts against these Ohio government officials.
And the court was trying to struggling with whether that
speech constituted an incitement to illegal activities such as a riot.
And the court held that that speech is not protected
if it is directed to inciting or producing imminent lawless
(28:50):
action and is likely to incite or produce such such action.
So they actually struck down the Ohio statute for being
overly broad in the ultimate decision of the court. So this,
all of this bull craft that's going on is is
designed to and I'm not saying everybody in the country
(29:14):
ought to be a lawyer. In fact, we have too
many lawyers. But kill all the lawyers, right.
Speaker 1 (29:21):
But.
Speaker 2 (29:23):
What's really going on is a battle for the minds
of people. So those who don't do any critical thinking,
I would say those are the people that watched the view,
would listen to somebody like Sonny and say, I, you know,
I talked to five people. I called five friends in
(29:43):
LA and they said, no, everything's fine. And there were
some spots but where there was violence that was caused
because some men in uniform showed up. Oh so, I
guess if you're gonna rob the bank and the cop
cars show up, then it's their fault that you're robbing
(30:06):
the bank. That's that's their logic. It makes my head hurt.
Speaker 7 (30:12):
Good morning, Michael. I am just scratching my head at
the fact that Muscum is asking the courts to stop
Trump from sending troops. I get it military shouldn't be
used on American citizens, but wait, are they citizens that
are destroying LA? I just like cannot wrap my head
(30:32):
around this insanity that we're living. It's okay to break
the lawn, come here illegally, and then destroy the cities.
Speaker 2 (30:41):
You make a good point about when you say should
the US military be used against American citizens, and generally speaking,
the answer to that is no, it should not. And
that's why we have Posse commatatis, which prevents the use
of troops against American citizens with an exception, and that
(31:05):
exceptionist is contained in the Insurrection Act. So that if
there is an insurrection, and I'm not talking about a
January six, although I suppose if depending on your point
of view about January six, you could have declared that
an insurrection. And I'm not really sure. I mean, you
(31:26):
couldn't have litigated that in time. Well you may have
gotten a temporary restraining order.
Speaker 3 (31:31):
But you can.
Speaker 2 (31:33):
And I'm telling you that I actually know that from
practical experience, having and somebody sent me a I forget
maybe it was Steve I retired LEO, but somebody had
asked me about if i'd read Carl Rove's book when
(31:53):
Karl Rove left the administration, and he said the same
thing that I've always been saying. So if you don't
believe me, you can believe Carl Rove. That we were
on Air Force one, going and putting the paperwork together
to invoke the Insurrection Act wave posse commentatus, so that
I could put federal troops on the ground in New
Orleans because the New Orleans Police Department had collapsed, literally collapsed,
(32:20):
and in order to restore law and order, I wanted troops.
Speaker 4 (32:25):
On the ground.
Speaker 2 (32:27):
Now, we ended up not doing it because the governor
wanted twenty four hours to think about it. So instead
I got General Honorey and I started talking to Honorey
about sending National Guard troops into the convention Center because
we had no situational awareness of what was going on
(32:48):
there to find out what was going on. And I'll
never forget his comment to me, now, I will not
send my troops in there. I will, however, or I
will find somebody, an undercover police officer or a detective.
Speaker 3 (33:04):
We got.
Speaker 2 (33:05):
We had people from New York and Chicago and LA
and everywhere to help us. We'll send some undercover people
in to kind of spy and find out what's going on.
And his logic was this, I don't want to send
my troops in there because if there are some thugs
in there to start shooting at my troops, they're going.
Speaker 3 (33:22):
To shoot back.
Speaker 2 (33:23):
And I don't think you want American soldiers shooting American citizens. Well,
let me tell you who does want that. The rioters,
the agents provocateur in Los Angeles. That is precisely what
they're looking for.
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