December 20, 2024 • 24 mins
Time to recap some festivities on this weeks episode of The Theme Park Podcast! Jimmy is back from his European adventure to talk about seeing Neil Patrick Harris at EPCOT for Candlelight Processional! Then Scott joins the show from the Aventura Hotel to talk Christmas at Universal Studios. Then they try to squeeze in a bit of news.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
From the theme park Capital of the World, Orlando, Florida.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
This is the Theme Park Podcast.
Speaker 1 (00:08):
Wait podcast? Is this all the radio? Why does everything
gotta be so messy on this station?
Speaker 3 (00:13):
Anyway?
Speaker 1 (00:14):
Here's your hosts, Dickerman, Jimmy d and Scott Harris.
Speaker 3 (00:19):
Hey there, and welcome to this almost Christmas version of
the Theme Park Podcast. Dickerman, here, there is Jimmy t
Merry Christmas Fallas and Scott Harris.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
Sur treat everyone, How how are we feeling?
Speaker 3 (00:32):
It's it's not trigger treat time, It's Christmas time and
this is officially Christmas time. Pal, he can watch a
nightmare before Christmas if he so chooses.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
Uh Crampus, Hello, are you forgetting things?
Speaker 3 (00:44):
You know? Yeah? Yeah, he's gonna be. He's got a
good point. There a wide variety of very well done
holiday horror movies.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
I just saw. I just saw Black Christmas for the
fiftieth anniversary last weekend.
Speaker 3 (00:58):
Wait, which there's like nineteen version of Black Christmas. Which
one did you see?
Speaker 2 (01:02):
There's three? And I saw the original one from nineteen
seventy four.
Speaker 3 (01:06):
Okay, all right, I've never seen any of them, but
I do mean to watch one. I just don't know
which one to start with.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
Start with the first one? Mm really yes, yes, because
it pre dates Halloween and you can see all the
influences that it had on Halloween and slasher movies to
come afterwards.
Speaker 3 (01:26):
Fair enough, Okay, I will do that.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
And it's Strutch by the same guy that did a
Christmas Story.
Speaker 3 (01:32):
Oh interesting, and that's very interesting.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
Actually a few of the Porky's movies.
Speaker 3 (01:37):
Oh okay, this guy's got quite the resume.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
And then Baby Genius says.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
Wow, okay, I mean you convinced me. I'll watch the original.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
It's on Peacock right original.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
So we've got a lot to get to this week.
Jimmy is just coming back from Europe, so he's got
some notes there. Scott. You're actually at a theme park
as we speak, yep, Aventura Hotel at Universal Orlando.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
Yes, yeah, yeah, which I will say when I got
in my room because I got a really good passholder rate. Which,
by the way, if you're a passolder, pay attention to
discounts on hotels. Same if you're a Disney passholder. Yeah,
my room. Everything is controlled by an iPad.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
He's holding up an iPad and it turns on the lights.
It changes. It's the TVB Yeah, it does everything.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
Yeah, I can call fancy. Yeah, I can control the
thermostat the lights.
Speaker 3 (02:36):
Can you order food to your room from it? Yes, yes,
I can guarantee yeah yeah yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
Resort dining, yeah, it's pretty yeah in room dining.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
There you go. And this was just a little getaway
you chose for the weekend. This is not scott Like
being mister Universal. He actually went and he paid for
his hotel room and he went to the park.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
Yeah I did. I did, Actually, yeah I would. Yeah.
I went to Universal last night, got some donuts for
breakfast today from Voodoo Donuts. Checked out the Red Coconut
Club for its Christmas overlay. Today. I saw the Christmas parade. Okay,
the Macy's parade. We are pretty awesome.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
We are super close to Christmas at this point. So
are we seeing the Christmas crowds out at Universally yet?
Does it feel like it's like hugely crowded.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
Not yet. I feel like in two more days it
will be.
Speaker 3 (03:30):
Okay, I can say at Abcot last night, it was
you know, granted it's in the middle of the week
and it's you know, the last week before Christmas, but
it was pretty light really, except for around Neil's performances. Yes,
Candlelight Processional last night, I forgot. We got to get
a review of that one too. Geez, you guys have
known all sorts of stuff, you know, I've done nothing.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
Well. I think what's happened is a local schools are
still in right now, mm hmm. And then because of
Christmas being on a Wednesday, it really adjusts people's travel schedules. Yeah,
because it's kind of like that, when do I want
to travel? So I have a feeling a lot of
people are going to fly in on like a Monday
(04:13):
next week.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
Okay, yeah, I could see that, yeah, and then stay
through through Christmas and maybe starting into New Year's too.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
Possibly.
Speaker 3 (04:21):
Yeah, it's an interesting week ahead. So not super busy
universal is what you're saying. It's busy, but not like holidays. Correct, Yes,
did you write anything? Did you just go around?
Speaker 2 (04:32):
Did some men in black? Got some butter beers? Whenever
to me and Jimmy's favorite spot, shay alcatraz M did
not get a shark attack. I did not get a
shark attack atack I did not get I did not
get one of those. But I got a different specialty drink.
Speaker 3 (04:46):
From there, it changes to ocean attack. Why do you know,
I don't know. I don't know if they just don't want,
you know, to shark blame. So okay, okay, makes sense.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
But it was just it was just super chill to
like walk around and just because it's gorgeous weather out too.
Right now.
Speaker 3 (05:06):
Yeah, it is great right now. I would also like
to go to theme park when it's like sub below
zero if I can, Like when we get that like
ridiculous cold snap, like once a year, it's my favorite
time to go.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
I will see my favorite thing. Uh, one of my
favorite things is like I went downstairs to the to
walk around the lobby and I sold like the lifeguards
at the pool and then I'm like, there's not a
single person in this pool right now.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
Yep. They just have to be there to be there.
They're just filling a slot. But it's easiest job of
the year.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
It's it's it's a it's a great hotel. It's right
across the street from Cabana Bay, So if you have
a chance to stay here, it's a really good hotel
to stay in.
Speaker 3 (05:41):
And what were you saying, like the passhold or rate
was it was like they're cheap.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
Right, one hundred and eight dollars per night.
Speaker 3 (05:47):
That's great, that's a great deal. That is ian deal.
And you're staying at like, you know, the best Western
a holiday and at that price, you know, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
It's the same price. Like I look out my window
and I seek any same price as that.
Speaker 3 (06:02):
Wow. Whenever Lauren and I are traveling, our target price
for a hotel, like a Marriott level hotel is two
hundred dollars a night. So that tells you right there.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
When I stayed at Cabana twice in October for my
birthday and my rebirthday, and even then it was one
seventy four.
Speaker 3 (06:21):
A night, okay, Yeah, and that used to be the case,
like at the Disney like the lower resorts, like the
art animation stuff. But I don't think they're that cheap anymore.
I think those have jumped up in price quite right. Yeah.
And of course then you got like the poll which
is like eight hundred bucks, an I forget about it.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
Yeah, I mean like four well, like I looked like
the Low's resorts here were like fourteen hundred a night.
Speaker 3 (06:44):
Oh yeah, yeah, don't get me wrong. They can get
very expensive out there. Don't get me wrong, You're right. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
I was like, I know Dickerman and they were like,
it's fifteen hundred. It was very weird. Co Scott, I
that's the thing. I asked about my promo code, and
they're they're working on it, so.
Speaker 3 (07:02):
Okay, and they need to get that going. They need
to make that work. Well, James, one day we will
have a client that will let us use promo code,
Scott or something two dollars off.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
It's about increases the price.
Speaker 3 (07:19):
Yes, it's an inconvenience charge. Jimmy, you went to see
Neil Patrick Harris. How many times have you guys seen
a candlelight professional professional with the NPH at this point?
Do you know? Well, he said he's done it for
thirteen years. I thought I counted fourteen, but I could
be wrong. Okay, and every single year that he's done it,
(07:41):
so thirteen to fourteen years depending on who you ask, okay.
And how was his performance last night? Can he still hang?
Because he can? He still go yeap, witty as always
and very fun and warm and yeah, it just sets
a tone for our Christmas.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
Does he even need this script at this point?
Speaker 3 (08:01):
Well, I will give them credit. Like for the first
I don't know nine of those years, it was the
same script, so yes, you probably could have read it
from a memory. They've changed it up in recent years, okay,
and they've changed it actually again this year from last
the last two years because like, I don't know, you
guys aren't Catholic, but when you play Hallelujah, Catholics stand.
(08:26):
And they did it medley with Hallelujah, okay the last
two years. So it was like people would stand up
and then we're like the song would change, but like
but we keep standing, We'll sit down, and then it
goes back to Halloween. You're like, all right, I'm just
gonna sit down. And it just it was just like
it was fun to watch every performance. And I think
they just saddled them, you know what, We'll just let
(08:47):
them because I feel like people standing during Hallelujah may
have like confused some guests, so they just wanted to
they were trying to like curb that, I guess. But
now it's back to the old formut. But some of
the songs are a little different and melodically, I would say,
not lyrically, but and then some of the stories that
(09:09):
are told in between the songs is a little different
now too. Okay, okay, So I think I think for
your like your your legacy, guys like Neil who's said
it's a part of his Christmas now he always wants
to do this, I think it fresh. Isn't it up
a little bit for them to you know?
Speaker 2 (09:25):
So it's not so yeah, you want to make it
a different experience every time, correct, to entice people to
come back.
Speaker 3 (09:35):
Yeah, spice it up a little bit, so it's not
so you know, repetitive for the artist. And was it
was it crowded in that general vicinity for that performance? Yes,
his candlelight processional was sold out in like the first
hour of the first day. And the only reason that
we got in was because we were willing to pay whatever.
So we ended up going with one hundred and two
(09:57):
dollars package. And oh yeah, how was the package? That's right?
You went? Where'd you guys eat? We ate a tepping etle,
which is the the Hibachi steak you know steakhouse. So
you're Kobe right, it would be comparable to Kobe, but
at Disney it is, yes, And like Kobe has white sauce,
Disney has yum yum sauce. One of the biggest differences
(10:21):
was like the vegetables and the noodles, they come together
like in a mixture. Kobe, it's two separate like items
that are cooked and then your rice is not fried,
it comes steamed in a bowl on the side. Okay, okay, yeah,
So what we what are we thinking here? How does
it compare to Kobe? Is it in the same you
know level? I would say, you love Kobe, just a
(10:45):
huge Kobe fan. And the lynch pin is the white sauce.
Yum yum sauce is very good. It's in the It's
the best way I could put it is like sometimes
you want to coke and sometimes you want cherry coke.
But there's no real.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
Fall off from There's not a bad option.
Speaker 3 (11:03):
Correct where I've been to other Japanese steakhouse where they
try to do their own white sauce and I'm just like, no,
that's That's not what I was expecting at all. But
Disney and Kobe, I'm very similar.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
They talked to each other. Did you get Dickerman a
barrel of young um sauce?
Speaker 3 (11:24):
No? But I did get him a squeeze bottle of
the the ginger soy sauce. I don't know if I'm
like that, I'm not sure. Do you think the table
was worth it? Then? To do? Do it the way
you guys did it for this for this Candlelight Processional?
Oh yeah, I mean, if you're going to see Neil,
you got to get a meal. So it's Neil and
(11:45):
a meal, Neil and a meal. You're gonna see Neil,
you got to get a meal. Yeah, it's the only
way because otherwise you're going to be waiting like two hours.
So you could do you could do cheaper restaurants for
the Candle Light Processional. Yes, if you're lucky in enough
to go. I think day of you can do the
Regal Legal And I think it's only like forty five
(12:06):
dollars and you're guaranteed and that's that's only day of Now.
The only problem with that is is there's limited spots,
and I'm pretty sure they fly off the shelf. So yeah,
and Regal Legal hit Miss.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
Has the Dickerman endorsement as his favorite Epcot attraction.
Speaker 3 (12:24):
It did after my first visit. Then the second and
third were not good, So I don't know. I felt
bad that I recommended it. Then it wasn't good after that.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
That's a new problem.
Speaker 3 (12:34):
Jimbo, Jimbo. You're just back, Scott and I did the
show alone last week. You're just back from Europe. Did
you do any theme park related or theme park adjacent
things while in Europe. Yes. In the city of York, England,
they have a street called the Shambles and it's the
real life Digon Alley. Mm like when you when you
(12:56):
walk down it, it looks exactly like Digon Alley. I
knew he the Harry Potter stuff Scot with. He's the
number one Harry Potter fan on the show. Well, no,
it's uh. What it is is New York is the
most haunted city in supposedly, I think it's Europe for Britain,
I can't remember which. So they have like a very
like you know, and they have like these ghosts that
(13:18):
they hide all over the city and like on Halloween
and you go find the ghosts and then they're made from,
you know, rocks from York. So it's all like made
by York and created by York, designed by York, all
that stuff and it comes from York. So it's kind
of cool. But that was part of it, the Shambles.
Did you pack your robe and your wand no? There
(13:42):
there was a Harry Potter store on the street too.
Speaker 2 (13:44):
Oh what did you buy?
Speaker 3 (13:46):
Yeah? I didn't by any I didn't even actually get
a chance to go in. So did you see if
they sold butter beer? I wouldn't mind trying European butter beer,
you know. I wish I would have thought of that.
But like every every store on that street was like
a line. A queue to get in is just crazy.
So it was basically a theme park kind of, that's
what you're saying. Well, it is one of the I
(14:06):
think it is the best medieval city. Like the parts
of it there are medieval that are best well preserved.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
Okay, okay? Can I read off some facts about the Shambles?
Speaker 3 (14:20):
Yeah? Please do.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
It is a historic street in York featuring preserved medieval building,
some dating back as far as the fourteenth century.
Speaker 3 (14:29):
Whoa.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
It was once known as the Great Flesh Shambles. Oh,
probably from the Anglo Saxon flesh amles literally flesh shelves,
the word for the shelves that butchers used to display
their meats. In eighteen eighty five, thirty one butcher shops
were located along the street, but none remain today.
Speaker 3 (14:54):
Flesh shelves. That's not sound hygienet, just saying yeah, And
like I thought this was taking some kind of cannibal
turn there, but it was just like it's the Yeah,
it was the meat district, Yeah, medieval meat district. So
no butchers now, it's butcherless now, butcher list now, No,
but they're it's just lined with shops. You did not
(15:17):
go to Disneyland Paris while you were there or.
Speaker 2 (15:19):
Walt Disney World Studios.
Speaker 3 (15:22):
Euro Disney was euro Disney a thing? Why is that
in my head for some reason?
Speaker 2 (15:25):
Well, it was renamed to Disneyland Paris.
Speaker 3 (15:28):
Okay, so it originally was euro Disney. Yes, correct. That
park's always struggled a bit too. I mean they might
have found their footing at this point, but it was
hard in the early days. In the early days, they
didn't want to have alcohol in the parks and that
doesn't flow well with the French culture. So once they
caved in on that and allowed them to have wine
(15:49):
in the parks, guess what, everybody started coming out and
checking it out. Did you guys even go through Paris
at all? We went through France only on the Eurostar,
which takes the chunnel. So yeah, we took it to Brussels,
so we were in Belgium for a day and a half.
Is that a bullet train or a standard train? It's
(16:11):
like a I think it's technically a bullet train, but
I don't. It's not like the Japanese ones. This one
only had like a record high speed of like two
hundred and seventy four miles an hour. That's faster than
when we took that. What do we take the lines
faster than correct? Yes?
Speaker 2 (16:27):
Yes, is like being on a highway.
Speaker 3 (16:30):
Why can't we do trains right in this country? What's
what's wrong with us? We don't. They can do it
so well over there.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
Because we don't put the infrastructure behind us.
Speaker 3 (16:39):
The other thing, too, is our country is like many, many,
many times bigger than a lot of those countries that
do do you know mass you know intern city transportation better. Yeah,
they're like Texas is like the size of a good
huge chunk of that whole area there. Yeah, that's one
(17:02):
of the things, like you hear Europeans talk to me about,
was like your country is so massive, you guys have everything, like,
every kind of climate, every kind of like animal like everything.
This is true. So did you did you appreciate Europe
or were you over it by the time you left? No,
I appreciate it. I could have spent more time there easily,
(17:27):
And it was just it was fun to try new
foods and new places and see like that kind of history.
And most of all, you know the bridge, it's right
by the Tower of the London where Spider Man saved
us all from mysterio? You yeah or didn't? Are you
(17:49):
telling me that the foods you've had there are different
than what you get it the Epcot International Food Festival?
I mean, because you have that there, you have all
the things there. We had fish and chips for sure,
and it was wonderful. And then uh they called you know,
they call French fries fries there quite a bit. It's
(18:10):
not always chips. Weird, they don't call them French fries.
So I actually did see one menu in a pub
that had French fries on there.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
Dickerman, what's your favorite topping for fish and chips? Uh?
Speaker 3 (18:25):
Catchup? If I'm going to have it, I know it's
sad No, uh no, no, whatever, That white stuff is
you guys put your fish in tartar sauce? Yeah, that
I don't like that.
Speaker 2 (18:39):
What about yum yum sauce?
Speaker 3 (18:44):
You can't put anything yummyum sauce on that microphone.
Speaker 2 (18:47):
You need to shoot up there just eat it.
Speaker 3 (18:51):
I've never had your magical white sauce from Kobe or
the yum yum sauce from uh what really? Yeah, never
had it. I don't like Kobe. Maybe I have had
it and I didn't like it. It's hard to say
didn't care for Kobe. Too many onions involved. It's two
onion adjacent for my taste.
Speaker 2 (19:09):
That makes sense.
Speaker 3 (19:11):
Yeah. Should we dive into any theme park news? I
know last week, Jimmy, when you were out, we covered
all the bands that are coming to the upcoming Epcot Festival,
and it sounded closer to a Sea World lineup than
a Disney line up to me.
Speaker 2 (19:27):
By the way, the amount of compliments I got on
last week's show for our production value, No, we.
Speaker 3 (19:35):
Did good production last week. Is that what you're saying?
Speaker 2 (19:37):
We played music from the artists on the show.
Speaker 3 (19:43):
We couldn't, well, I couldn't. Scott knew better than me,
Like half these artists songs. I'm like, Okay, I know
who thirty eight Special was, but I have no idea
what their songs are. Or I know who the guy
in Chicago is, but I don't know what their songs are.
Then maybe something from the Karate Kid movie. Then I
turned out I was wrong because it was a singer
from Chicago. That point, yeah, there was a It was
(20:03):
a long conversation learning about artists and who their singers
were and who the original singers were. And this the
guy that's coming is not actually the guy that was
the main guy in Chicago, but he apparently was in
Chicago longer than the other guy was in Chicago. But
he's still not Peter Satara.
Speaker 2 (20:17):
Well, the first bit of news that I have is
very Dickerman eccentric. Okay, all right, Cinnabon is returning to CityWalk,
Orlando A twenty twenty five.
Speaker 3 (20:28):
About time, about time they should have never gone away?
Who will never gone away?
Speaker 2 (20:32):
They're expanding the store that that there's a reason why.
Speaker 3 (20:36):
Will there be a wave that they can ride right
outside of it? I hope?
Speaker 2 (20:40):
So, I really, I really want to know what happened
to that surfboard wave?
Speaker 3 (20:45):
Yeah that or put it in the prop store so
we can buy it.
Speaker 2 (20:48):
There is no prop store.
Speaker 3 (20:51):
Bring it back, bring it back the prop store, so
you can just buy the wave.
Speaker 2 (20:54):
No, no, no, no. Me and Jimmy like, what's taken over the
prop store?
Speaker 3 (20:58):
What's there?
Speaker 2 (20:59):
And again now it's the video store.
Speaker 3 (21:02):
Oh okay, all right, no crop store.
Speaker 2 (21:06):
Which I went to the video store today and I
almost spent way too much money on things.
Speaker 3 (21:10):
Oh you showed itself self constraint when you went.
Speaker 2 (21:15):
Yeah, but I also have one more day here, so
anything is possible.
Speaker 3 (21:19):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (21:21):
Jimmy might have seen this, but we've did you go
to Communic Core Hall, James?
Speaker 3 (21:26):
I did, and I got to see the light show
with that happened within the the junior bread. Is this
it Epcot?
Speaker 2 (21:39):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (21:39):
Yes, there is a Judi red house that looks like
Spaceship Earth and it's inside Communic Core Hall and like
every food. Yeah, it's like every I don't know, twenty
minutes or so, they do a little light show. Oh,
there's like Christmas trees in my when you walk by
two guys talking at once. Couldn't understand any of that,
all right, Scott, I had a real question. I had
(22:01):
a fake question. I ad if you could take a
bite out of it, And Scott asked about the Christmas trees.
You actually can because they have a booth right next
to it that they sell like the shingles from it,
and it's called the Experimental Cookie of Tomorrow. Yep, no
experimental prototype Cookie of tomorrow. Boo boom. But they won't
rip the thing right right off the top though, They're
(22:22):
not like ripping a chunk off for you, because that's
how I want to experience it. Well, the one that's
like out there, it is made of real gingerbread, but
it depends on like lacquered over so it doesn't rot
fair enough. Don't like maybe that? Maybe I don't want
the lacquer one.
Speaker 2 (22:36):
No, no elsewhere. Astra Orbiter will be closing for a
few months at Magic Kingdom.
Speaker 3 (22:43):
Okay, well that's a ride none of us ride anyhow,
because it's really hard to get on. What's the last
time you wrote astro Orbiter three years I was in
the age of a single digit. Yeah, it's a tough one.
It's tough one up there.
Speaker 2 (22:59):
It's a fun ride, but you know what it is
once you get up there, when you have to you know,
poor wait on an elevator. It kind of makes it hard.
Speaker 3 (23:08):
Yeah, that's true.
Speaker 2 (23:09):
And very quickly if you have a child there, Disney
will be having discounts on Disney cruises for children.
Speaker 3 (23:17):
Oh my niece is on one right now with their kids.
I sent them. I got them magnets. I got them
a bunch of Disney magnets and the kids are sticking
them everywhere on the boat.
Speaker 2 (23:24):
Uh, Dickerman, how old are you? Maybe we can get
you on the Disney cruise.
Speaker 3 (23:30):
Old enough, okay to go on to Disney Cruise.
Speaker 2 (23:32):
Yeah, well I just meant for the discount.
Speaker 3 (23:35):
Oh yeah, I could get the senior discout. At this point,
I was gonna say you and I can get senior discount,
and Scott, can you get the kid in discount? There
you go, There you go, and we'll do a podcast
from the boat.
Speaker 2 (23:44):
Done, let's go.
Speaker 3 (23:45):
It's the perfect plan. It's a perfect plan, and it's
attacked right out.
Speaker 2 (23:48):
And it's Sacks right. That's the theme park Podcast incorporated.
Speaker 3 (23:51):
Yes, that's exactly it, all right, Scott. Well, if people
want to get the latest breaking theme park news as
we head into holidays, where can they go?
Speaker 2 (23:59):
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and TikTok at the theme Park Podcast. You can watch at
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Speaker 3 (24:05):
The show traditionally comes to you live from the Laurencampbell
Realtor dot com, TBO Gazebo Studios For Jimmy To for
Scott Harris, I am Dickerman. Until next week, We'll see
you out at the parks.
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Speaker 2 (00:04):
This is the Theme Park Podcast.
Speaker 1 (00:08):
Wait podcast? Is this all the radio? Why does everything
gotta be so messy on this station?
Speaker 3 (00:13):
Anyway?
Speaker 1 (00:14):
Here's your hosts, Dickerman, Jimmy d and Scott Harris.
Speaker 3 (00:19):
Hey there, and welcome to this almost Christmas version of
the Theme Park Podcast. Dickerman, here, there is Jimmy t
Merry Christmas Fallas and Scott Harris.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
Sur treat everyone, How how are we feeling?
Speaker 3 (00:32):
It's it's not trigger treat time, It's Christmas time and
this is officially Christmas time. Pal, he can watch a
nightmare before Christmas if he so chooses.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
Uh Crampus, Hello, are you forgetting things?
Speaker 3 (00:44):
You know? Yeah? Yeah, he's gonna be. He's got a
good point. There a wide variety of very well done
holiday horror movies.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
I just saw. I just saw Black Christmas for the
fiftieth anniversary last weekend.
Speaker 3 (00:58):
Wait, which there's like nineteen version of Black Christmas. Which
one did you see?
Speaker 2 (01:02):
There's three? And I saw the original one from nineteen
seventy four.
Speaker 3 (01:06):
Okay, all right, I've never seen any of them, but
I do mean to watch one. I just don't know
which one to start with.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
Start with the first one? Mm really yes, yes, because
it pre dates Halloween and you can see all the
influences that it had on Halloween and slasher movies to
come afterwards.
Speaker 3 (01:26):
Fair enough, Okay, I will do that.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
And it's Strutch by the same guy that did a
Christmas Story.
Speaker 3 (01:32):
Oh interesting, and that's very interesting.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
Actually a few of the Porky's movies.
Speaker 3 (01:37):
Oh okay, this guy's got quite the resume.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
And then Baby Genius says.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
Wow, okay, I mean you convinced me. I'll watch the original.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
It's on Peacock right original.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
So we've got a lot to get to this week.
Jimmy is just coming back from Europe, so he's got
some notes there. Scott. You're actually at a theme park
as we speak, yep, Aventura Hotel at Universal Orlando.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
Yes, yeah, yeah, which I will say when I got
in my room because I got a really good passholder rate. Which,
by the way, if you're a passolder, pay attention to
discounts on hotels. Same if you're a Disney passholder. Yeah,
my room. Everything is controlled by an iPad.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
He's holding up an iPad and it turns on the lights.
It changes. It's the TVB Yeah, it does everything.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
Yeah, I can call fancy. Yeah, I can control the
thermostat the lights.
Speaker 3 (02:36):
Can you order food to your room from it? Yes, yes,
I can guarantee yeah yeah yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
Resort dining, yeah, it's pretty yeah in room dining.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
There you go. And this was just a little getaway
you chose for the weekend. This is not scott Like
being mister Universal. He actually went and he paid for
his hotel room and he went to the park.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
Yeah I did. I did, Actually, yeah I would. Yeah.
I went to Universal last night, got some donuts for
breakfast today from Voodoo Donuts. Checked out the Red Coconut
Club for its Christmas overlay. Today. I saw the Christmas parade. Okay,
the Macy's parade. We are pretty awesome.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
We are super close to Christmas at this point. So
are we seeing the Christmas crowds out at Universally yet?
Does it feel like it's like hugely crowded.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
Not yet. I feel like in two more days it
will be.
Speaker 3 (03:30):
Okay, I can say at Abcot last night, it was
you know, granted it's in the middle of the week
and it's you know, the last week before Christmas, but
it was pretty light really, except for around Neil's performances. Yes,
Candlelight Processional last night, I forgot. We got to get
a review of that one too. Geez, you guys have
known all sorts of stuff, you know, I've done nothing.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
Well. I think what's happened is a local schools are
still in right now, mm hmm. And then because of
Christmas being on a Wednesday, it really adjusts people's travel schedules. Yeah,
because it's kind of like that, when do I want
to travel? So I have a feeling a lot of
people are going to fly in on like a Monday
(04:13):
next week.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
Okay, yeah, I could see that, yeah, and then stay
through through Christmas and maybe starting into New Year's too.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
Possibly.
Speaker 3 (04:21):
Yeah, it's an interesting week ahead. So not super busy
universal is what you're saying. It's busy, but not like holidays. Correct, Yes,
did you write anything? Did you just go around?
Speaker 2 (04:32):
Did some men in black? Got some butter beers? Whenever
to me and Jimmy's favorite spot, shay alcatraz M did
not get a shark attack. I did not get a
shark attack atack I did not get I did not
get one of those. But I got a different specialty drink.
Speaker 3 (04:46):
From there, it changes to ocean attack. Why do you know,
I don't know. I don't know if they just don't want,
you know, to shark blame. So okay, okay, makes sense.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
But it was just it was just super chill to
like walk around and just because it's gorgeous weather out too.
Right now.
Speaker 3 (05:06):
Yeah, it is great right now. I would also like
to go to theme park when it's like sub below
zero if I can, Like when we get that like
ridiculous cold snap, like once a year, it's my favorite
time to go.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
I will see my favorite thing. Uh, one of my
favorite things is like I went downstairs to the to
walk around the lobby and I sold like the lifeguards
at the pool and then I'm like, there's not a
single person in this pool right now.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
Yep. They just have to be there to be there.
They're just filling a slot. But it's easiest job of
the year.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
It's it's it's a it's a great hotel. It's right
across the street from Cabana Bay, So if you have
a chance to stay here, it's a really good hotel
to stay in.
Speaker 3 (05:41):
And what were you saying, like the passhold or rate
was it was like they're cheap.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
Right, one hundred and eight dollars per night.
Speaker 3 (05:47):
That's great, that's a great deal. That is ian deal.
And you're staying at like, you know, the best Western
a holiday and at that price, you know, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
It's the same price. Like I look out my window
and I seek any same price as that.
Speaker 3 (06:02):
Wow. Whenever Lauren and I are traveling, our target price
for a hotel, like a Marriott level hotel is two
hundred dollars a night. So that tells you right there.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
When I stayed at Cabana twice in October for my
birthday and my rebirthday, and even then it was one
seventy four.
Speaker 3 (06:21):
A night, okay, Yeah, and that used to be the case,
like at the Disney like the lower resorts, like the
art animation stuff. But I don't think they're that cheap anymore.
I think those have jumped up in price quite right. Yeah.
And of course then you got like the poll which
is like eight hundred bucks, an I forget about it.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
Yeah, I mean like four well, like I looked like
the Low's resorts here were like fourteen hundred a night.
Speaker 3 (06:44):
Oh yeah, yeah, don't get me wrong. They can get
very expensive out there. Don't get me wrong, You're right. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
I was like, I know Dickerman and they were like,
it's fifteen hundred. It was very weird. Co Scott, I
that's the thing. I asked about my promo code, and
they're they're working on it, so.
Speaker 3 (07:02):
Okay, and they need to get that going. They need
to make that work. Well, James, one day we will
have a client that will let us use promo code,
Scott or something two dollars off.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
It's about increases the price.
Speaker 3 (07:19):
Yes, it's an inconvenience charge. Jimmy, you went to see
Neil Patrick Harris. How many times have you guys seen
a candlelight professional professional with the NPH at this point?
Do you know? Well, he said he's done it for
thirteen years. I thought I counted fourteen, but I could
be wrong. Okay, and every single year that he's done it,
(07:41):
so thirteen to fourteen years depending on who you ask, okay.
And how was his performance last night? Can he still hang?
Because he can? He still go yeap, witty as always
and very fun and warm and yeah, it just sets
a tone for our Christmas.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
Does he even need this script at this point?
Speaker 3 (08:01):
Well, I will give them credit. Like for the first
I don't know nine of those years, it was the
same script, so yes, you probably could have read it
from a memory. They've changed it up in recent years, okay,
and they've changed it actually again this year from last
the last two years because like, I don't know, you
guys aren't Catholic, but when you play Hallelujah, Catholics stand.
(08:26):
And they did it medley with Hallelujah, okay the last
two years. So it was like people would stand up
and then we're like the song would change, but like
but we keep standing, We'll sit down, and then it
goes back to Halloween. You're like, all right, I'm just
gonna sit down. And it just it was just like
it was fun to watch every performance. And I think
they just saddled them, you know what, We'll just let
(08:47):
them because I feel like people standing during Hallelujah may
have like confused some guests, so they just wanted to
they were trying to like curb that, I guess. But
now it's back to the old formut. But some of
the songs are a little different and melodically, I would say,
not lyrically, but and then some of the stories that
(09:09):
are told in between the songs is a little different
now too. Okay, okay, So I think I think for
your like your your legacy, guys like Neil who's said
it's a part of his Christmas now he always wants
to do this, I think it fresh. Isn't it up
a little bit for them to you know?
Speaker 2 (09:25):
So it's not so yeah, you want to make it
a different experience every time, correct, to entice people to
come back.
Speaker 3 (09:35):
Yeah, spice it up a little bit, so it's not
so you know, repetitive for the artist. And was it
was it crowded in that general vicinity for that performance? Yes,
his candlelight processional was sold out in like the first
hour of the first day. And the only reason that
we got in was because we were willing to pay whatever.
So we ended up going with one hundred and two
(09:57):
dollars package. And oh yeah, how was the package? That's right?
You went? Where'd you guys eat? We ate a tepping etle,
which is the the Hibachi steak you know steakhouse. So
you're Kobe right, it would be comparable to Kobe, but
at Disney it is, yes, And like Kobe has white sauce,
Disney has yum yum sauce. One of the biggest differences
(10:21):
was like the vegetables and the noodles, they come together
like in a mixture. Kobe, it's two separate like items
that are cooked and then your rice is not fried,
it comes steamed in a bowl on the side. Okay, okay, yeah,
So what we what are we thinking here? How does
it compare to Kobe? Is it in the same you
know level? I would say, you love Kobe, just a
(10:45):
huge Kobe fan. And the lynch pin is the white sauce.
Yum yum sauce is very good. It's in the It's
the best way I could put it is like sometimes
you want to coke and sometimes you want cherry coke.
But there's no real.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
Fall off from There's not a bad option.
Speaker 3 (11:03):
Correct where I've been to other Japanese steakhouse where they
try to do their own white sauce and I'm just like, no,
that's That's not what I was expecting at all. But
Disney and Kobe, I'm very similar.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
They talked to each other. Did you get Dickerman a
barrel of young um sauce?
Speaker 3 (11:24):
No? But I did get him a squeeze bottle of
the the ginger soy sauce. I don't know if I'm
like that, I'm not sure. Do you think the table
was worth it? Then? To do? Do it the way
you guys did it for this for this Candlelight Processional?
Oh yeah, I mean, if you're going to see Neil,
you got to get a meal. So it's Neil and
(11:45):
a meal, Neil and a meal. You're gonna see Neil,
you got to get a meal. Yeah, it's the only
way because otherwise you're going to be waiting like two hours.
So you could do you could do cheaper restaurants for
the Candle Light Processional. Yes, if you're lucky in enough
to go. I think day of you can do the
Regal Legal And I think it's only like forty five
(12:06):
dollars and you're guaranteed and that's that's only day of Now.
The only problem with that is is there's limited spots,
and I'm pretty sure they fly off the shelf. So yeah,
and Regal Legal hit Miss.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
Has the Dickerman endorsement as his favorite Epcot attraction.
Speaker 3 (12:24):
It did after my first visit. Then the second and
third were not good, So I don't know. I felt
bad that I recommended it. Then it wasn't good after that.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
That's a new problem.
Speaker 3 (12:34):
Jimbo, Jimbo. You're just back, Scott and I did the
show alone last week. You're just back from Europe. Did
you do any theme park related or theme park adjacent
things while in Europe. Yes. In the city of York, England,
they have a street called the Shambles and it's the
real life Digon Alley. Mm like when you when you
(12:56):
walk down it, it looks exactly like Digon Alley. I
knew he the Harry Potter stuff Scot with. He's the
number one Harry Potter fan on the show. Well, no,
it's uh. What it is is New York is the
most haunted city in supposedly, I think it's Europe for Britain,
I can't remember which. So they have like a very
like you know, and they have like these ghosts that
(13:18):
they hide all over the city and like on Halloween
and you go find the ghosts and then they're made from,
you know, rocks from York. So it's all like made
by York and created by York, designed by York, all
that stuff and it comes from York. So it's kind
of cool. But that was part of it, the Shambles.
Did you pack your robe and your wand no? There
(13:42):
there was a Harry Potter store on the street too.
Speaker 2 (13:44):
Oh what did you buy?
Speaker 3 (13:46):
Yeah? I didn't by any I didn't even actually get
a chance to go in. So did you see if
they sold butter beer? I wouldn't mind trying European butter beer,
you know. I wish I would have thought of that.
But like every every store on that street was like
a line. A queue to get in is just crazy.
So it was basically a theme park kind of, that's
what you're saying. Well, it is one of the I
(14:06):
think it is the best medieval city. Like the parts
of it there are medieval that are best well preserved.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
Okay, okay? Can I read off some facts about the Shambles?
Speaker 3 (14:20):
Yeah? Please do.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
It is a historic street in York featuring preserved medieval building,
some dating back as far as the fourteenth century.
Speaker 3 (14:29):
Whoa.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
It was once known as the Great Flesh Shambles. Oh,
probably from the Anglo Saxon flesh amles literally flesh shelves,
the word for the shelves that butchers used to display
their meats. In eighteen eighty five, thirty one butcher shops
were located along the street, but none remain today.
Speaker 3 (14:54):
Flesh shelves. That's not sound hygienet, just saying yeah, And
like I thought this was taking some kind of cannibal
turn there, but it was just like it's the Yeah,
it was the meat district, Yeah, medieval meat district. So
no butchers now, it's butcherless now, butcher list now, No,
but they're it's just lined with shops. You did not
(15:17):
go to Disneyland Paris while you were there or.
Speaker 2 (15:19):
Walt Disney World Studios.
Speaker 3 (15:22):
Euro Disney was euro Disney a thing? Why is that
in my head for some reason?
Speaker 2 (15:25):
Well, it was renamed to Disneyland Paris.
Speaker 3 (15:28):
Okay, so it originally was euro Disney. Yes, correct. That
park's always struggled a bit too. I mean they might
have found their footing at this point, but it was
hard in the early days. In the early days, they
didn't want to have alcohol in the parks and that
doesn't flow well with the French culture. So once they
caved in on that and allowed them to have wine
(15:49):
in the parks, guess what, everybody started coming out and
checking it out. Did you guys even go through Paris
at all? We went through France only on the Eurostar,
which takes the chunnel. So yeah, we took it to Brussels,
so we were in Belgium for a day and a half.
Is that a bullet train or a standard train? It's
(16:11):
like a I think it's technically a bullet train, but
I don't. It's not like the Japanese ones. This one
only had like a record high speed of like two
hundred and seventy four miles an hour. That's faster than
when we took that. What do we take the lines
faster than correct? Yes?
Speaker 2 (16:27):
Yes, is like being on a highway.
Speaker 3 (16:30):
Why can't we do trains right in this country? What's
what's wrong with us? We don't. They can do it
so well over there.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
Because we don't put the infrastructure behind us.
Speaker 3 (16:39):
The other thing, too, is our country is like many, many,
many times bigger than a lot of those countries that
do do you know mass you know intern city transportation better. Yeah,
they're like Texas is like the size of a good
huge chunk of that whole area there. Yeah, that's one
(17:02):
of the things, like you hear Europeans talk to me about,
was like your country is so massive, you guys have everything, like,
every kind of climate, every kind of like animal like everything.
This is true. So did you did you appreciate Europe
or were you over it by the time you left? No,
I appreciate it. I could have spent more time there easily,
(17:27):
And it was just it was fun to try new
foods and new places and see like that kind of history.
And most of all, you know the bridge, it's right
by the Tower of the London where Spider Man saved
us all from mysterio? You yeah or didn't? Are you
(17:49):
telling me that the foods you've had there are different
than what you get it the Epcot International Food Festival?
I mean, because you have that there, you have all
the things there. We had fish and chips for sure,
and it was wonderful. And then uh they called you know,
they call French fries fries there quite a bit. It's
(18:10):
not always chips. Weird, they don't call them French fries.
So I actually did see one menu in a pub
that had French fries on there.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
Dickerman, what's your favorite topping for fish and chips? Uh?
Speaker 3 (18:25):
Catchup? If I'm going to have it, I know it's
sad No, uh no, no, whatever, That white stuff is
you guys put your fish in tartar sauce? Yeah, that
I don't like that.
Speaker 2 (18:39):
What about yum yum sauce?
Speaker 3 (18:44):
You can't put anything yummyum sauce on that microphone.
Speaker 2 (18:47):
You need to shoot up there just eat it.
Speaker 3 (18:51):
I've never had your magical white sauce from Kobe or
the yum yum sauce from uh what really? Yeah, never
had it. I don't like Kobe. Maybe I have had
it and I didn't like it. It's hard to say
didn't care for Kobe. Too many onions involved. It's two
onion adjacent for my taste.
Speaker 2 (19:09):
That makes sense.
Speaker 3 (19:11):
Yeah. Should we dive into any theme park news? I
know last week, Jimmy, when you were out, we covered
all the bands that are coming to the upcoming Epcot Festival,
and it sounded closer to a Sea World lineup than
a Disney line up to me.
Speaker 2 (19:27):
By the way, the amount of compliments I got on
last week's show for our production value, No, we.
Speaker 3 (19:35):
Did good production last week. Is that what you're saying?
Speaker 2 (19:37):
We played music from the artists on the show.
Speaker 3 (19:43):
We couldn't, well, I couldn't. Scott knew better than me,
Like half these artists songs. I'm like, Okay, I know
who thirty eight Special was, but I have no idea
what their songs are. Or I know who the guy
in Chicago is, but I don't know what their songs are.
Then maybe something from the Karate Kid movie. Then I
turned out I was wrong because it was a singer
from Chicago. That point, yeah, there was a It was
(20:03):
a long conversation learning about artists and who their singers
were and who the original singers were. And this the
guy that's coming is not actually the guy that was
the main guy in Chicago, but he apparently was in
Chicago longer than the other guy was in Chicago. But
he's still not Peter Satara.
Speaker 2 (20:17):
Well, the first bit of news that I have is
very Dickerman eccentric. Okay, all right, Cinnabon is returning to CityWalk,
Orlando A twenty twenty five.
Speaker 3 (20:28):
About time, about time they should have never gone away?
Who will never gone away?
Speaker 2 (20:32):
They're expanding the store that that there's a reason why.
Speaker 3 (20:36):
Will there be a wave that they can ride right
outside of it? I hope?
Speaker 2 (20:40):
So, I really, I really want to know what happened
to that surfboard wave?
Speaker 3 (20:45):
Yeah that or put it in the prop store so
we can buy it.
Speaker 2 (20:48):
There is no prop store.
Speaker 3 (20:51):
Bring it back, bring it back the prop store, so
you can just buy the wave.
Speaker 2 (20:54):
No, no, no, no. Me and Jimmy like, what's taken over the
prop store?
Speaker 3 (20:58):
What's there?
Speaker 2 (20:59):
And again now it's the video store.
Speaker 3 (21:02):
Oh okay, all right, no crop store.
Speaker 2 (21:06):
Which I went to the video store today and I
almost spent way too much money on things.
Speaker 3 (21:10):
Oh you showed itself self constraint when you went.
Speaker 2 (21:15):
Yeah, but I also have one more day here, so
anything is possible.
Speaker 3 (21:19):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (21:21):
Jimmy might have seen this, but we've did you go
to Communic Core Hall, James?
Speaker 3 (21:26):
I did, and I got to see the light show
with that happened within the the junior bread. Is this
it Epcot?
Speaker 2 (21:39):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (21:39):
Yes, there is a Judi red house that looks like
Spaceship Earth and it's inside Communic Core Hall and like
every food. Yeah, it's like every I don't know, twenty
minutes or so, they do a little light show. Oh,
there's like Christmas trees in my when you walk by
two guys talking at once. Couldn't understand any of that,
all right, Scott, I had a real question. I had
(22:01):
a fake question. I ad if you could take a
bite out of it, And Scott asked about the Christmas trees.
You actually can because they have a booth right next
to it that they sell like the shingles from it,
and it's called the Experimental Cookie of Tomorrow. Yep, no
experimental prototype Cookie of tomorrow. Boo boom. But they won't
rip the thing right right off the top though, They're
(22:22):
not like ripping a chunk off for you, because that's
how I want to experience it. Well, the one that's
like out there, it is made of real gingerbread, but
it depends on like lacquered over so it doesn't rot
fair enough. Don't like maybe that? Maybe I don't want
the lacquer one.
Speaker 2 (22:36):
No, no elsewhere. Astra Orbiter will be closing for a
few months at Magic Kingdom.
Speaker 3 (22:43):
Okay, well that's a ride none of us ride anyhow,
because it's really hard to get on. What's the last
time you wrote astro Orbiter three years I was in
the age of a single digit. Yeah, it's a tough one.
It's tough one up there.
Speaker 2 (22:59):
It's a fun ride, but you know what it is
once you get up there, when you have to you know,
poor wait on an elevator. It kind of makes it hard.
Speaker 3 (23:08):
Yeah, that's true.
Speaker 2 (23:09):
And very quickly if you have a child there, Disney
will be having discounts on Disney cruises for children.
Speaker 3 (23:17):
Oh my niece is on one right now with their kids.
I sent them. I got them magnets. I got them
a bunch of Disney magnets and the kids are sticking
them everywhere on the boat.
Speaker 2 (23:24):
Uh, Dickerman, how old are you? Maybe we can get
you on the Disney cruise.
Speaker 3 (23:30):
Old enough, okay to go on to Disney Cruise.
Speaker 2 (23:32):
Yeah, well I just meant for the discount.
Speaker 3 (23:35):
Oh yeah, I could get the senior discout. At this point,
I was gonna say you and I can get senior discount,
and Scott, can you get the kid in discount? There
you go, There you go, and we'll do a podcast
from the boat.
Speaker 2 (23:44):
Done, let's go.
Speaker 3 (23:45):
It's the perfect plan. It's a perfect plan, and it's
attacked right out.
Speaker 2 (23:48):
And it's Sacks right. That's the theme park Podcast incorporated.
Speaker 3 (23:51):
Yes, that's exactly it, all right, Scott. Well, if people
want to get the latest breaking theme park news as
we head into holidays, where can they go?
Speaker 2 (23:59):
You can fall aso on Twitter at theme Park Show, Facebook, Instagram,
and TikTok at the theme Park Podcast. You can watch at
the theme Park YouTube dot com, and.
Speaker 3 (24:05):
The show traditionally comes to you live from the Laurencampbell
Realtor dot com, TBO Gazebo Studios For Jimmy To for
Scott Harris, I am Dickerman. Until next week, We'll see
you out at the parks.
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