March 14, 2025 • 68 mins
A roundtable discussion with guests DJ Burns and Brohh T, as they dive into the world of DJing. They share their passion for the craft through lively discussions, invaluable tips, and expert advice. This podcast also features behind-the-scenes stories and industry insights, making it a great listen for aspiring DJs.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This could give me fire podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
What up?
Speaker 1 (00:02):
I'm Jizo. That is John Magic and we are back.
We are.
Speaker 3 (00:06):
This is gonna be a fun one. This is gonna
be a fun episode on many levels. We got some
returning guests coming, but not only I don't even want
to call them guests because correct me if I'm wrong.
If if you would put a definition of a circle
of friends, this.
Speaker 4 (00:21):
Work, this is us.
Speaker 1 (00:22):
Yeah, this is a circle of friends.
Speaker 4 (00:24):
We're part of a bigger circle.
Speaker 1 (00:25):
But the core four.
Speaker 5 (00:32):
Yeah, man.
Speaker 4 (00:32):
But DJ Burns and bro Tea is.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
Back of those like boxes where wait, we got those
yeah program.
Speaker 1 (00:43):
We just got a program fired up.
Speaker 4 (00:45):
There's nothing in there right now.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
But there's so many levels where we could go with
this episode because there's a few things that trigger me
right now. This reminds, first of all, just being in
this studio reminds me of back in the days when
we used to DJ and mix live here and we
would talk about this on the past podcast.
Speaker 4 (01:03):
Of our favorite times in.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
Radio is in this studio where we would all just
be together hanging out. Yeah, while somebody's mixing live on
the radio, while you're on the other side on air.
Speaker 5 (01:17):
We're just here chilling it wasn't our own clubhouse.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (01:20):
Yeah, So there's that level.
Speaker 3 (01:23):
Then there's another level for myself personally, I wouldn't be
enjoying and playing golf because of these two. You know,
they are the two friends that.
Speaker 4 (01:34):
That I saw play golf a lot.
Speaker 3 (01:36):
And I've told this story before, how you know, with
my dad passing, it's kind of like the thing that
catapulted me to to kind of learn more. But it's
good to have friends that played and just to hang
out with. And these two were the first that took
me out to my first course. We went to the
valley and played. I had no idea what I was doing.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
Well.
Speaker 6 (01:58):
I remember we had a podcast episode when we were
talking about hobbies and what hobbies you should get into,
and we kind of were, you know, throwing out ideas.
And now fast forward today you got one in golf. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (02:08):
I was saying in one of my in one of
my little videos, I go, is it is it?
Speaker 4 (02:13):
What did I say? Like?
Speaker 3 (02:16):
Where is it toxic that that I enjoy something so
much that I'm not.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
Good at as long as you enjoy it?
Speaker 4 (02:23):
I'm delusion, I said in my delusional.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
It's a very toxic relationship. I hate it more than
I like at sometimes, but it's those moments where I
like it that make me keep coming back. That's a
toxic relationships. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (02:38):
Because out in the course, let's say you do let's
just go nine holes and eight of them suck, yeah,
and you just want to quit playing this damn sport.
Speaker 4 (02:48):
And then there's that one.
Speaker 3 (02:49):
Hole where you actually do well and you're like, I'm
ready for the next.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
That one hole makes me want to go like a
training cap, like just really invest into my golf career. Bad.
Speaker 3 (02:59):
Speaking of speaking of investing, how expensive is this golf thing?
Because I've been buying things off TikTok, off Amazon.
Speaker 5 (03:07):
You could easily get really expensive, especially if you get
picky with like you want the best brands, you want
like the best of the best, And it's like, all right,
slow down, like you're not a professional, Like we're still
doing this for fun. You kind of have to remind
yourself and like just have fun with it with what
you have.
Speaker 6 (03:23):
You know, it isn't that part of the fun though,
it is.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
So here's the thing, right, Like when you're when you're
a kid and you get into hobbies, like you obviously
have like a really like restrictive budget. But you know,
usually golf, like you're kind of getting into it when
you're older for the most part, so you got that
adult money, and so now you just kind of want
to spend on just like whatever pops up or whatever.
Speaker 4 (03:45):
Let me ask you this, so I'll give you an example.
Speaker 3 (03:47):
I've been spending things for teaching purposes, like things that
will make me better. Okay, but what have you guys
been spending a lot of your golf money.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
So there was like a period I slowed down now,
but there was a period of time where like I
was just buying golf sets and like playing with them
for a little bit and then I would keep them.
But then I would sell them though, right, I would
resell them back.
Speaker 4 (04:09):
When you say golf sets, like the whole.
Speaker 2 (04:11):
Thing, bro the whole thing. I was driving out to Vicelia,
I was picking up golf sets, you know, playing with
them for a little bit, then I would sell them
or whatever. Sometimes I make my money back, other times
I wouldn't, and I just kind of keep it going.
But it was fun, like I felt like that was
literally the cure to my game sometimes, but really it
didn't make a difference.
Speaker 5 (04:30):
How about I say, my favorite purchase that made it
feel like official, like Okay, I'm a golfer was when
I bought my golf bag because the first one I got,
like I think bro Tegue gave it to me that
he found that like a wholesale or like a yard
cell or something like that, and it was cool because
I was I was learning. But then I was like, okay,
(04:50):
I'm ready to make that investment. And I bought like
a brand new like out of the bag, like had
that new car, a brand new Nike, and I was like, okay, yeah,
I'm in this for real. And then I was like
okay serious. Yeah. Then I got like my clubs after that,
and I was like okay, like this is this is going,
this is going to you know what.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
You know What's super fun though out of all of this,
like now I've been golfing longer than both of you guys.
It's been fun seeing you guys start and then where
you're at right now because like you guys picked it
up so fast or as for me, like it took
me a while to kind of pick it up and
know what I'm doing. But like sometimes I'll go out
on the course and like I see you guys hit
him like shit, like damn you Guyeah?
Speaker 5 (05:30):
Good?
Speaker 1 (05:31):
Well when you did it, were you kind of just
doing it by yourself?
Speaker 2 (05:34):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (05:34):
What got you into it?
Speaker 5 (05:35):
So?
Speaker 2 (05:36):
I had a friend who just invited me out to
like the range. I had never been there before, Like
like most people like you just the seal like golf
is probably not the sport for you. He went out
to like a range is called Hank Hank swinging out there.
I didn't know that you could just go in there
and get like a bucket of balls for like five
eight bucks, and if you didn't have any clubs, like
they have some loner clubs that you could use there
(05:57):
and just literally practice a super beginner friendly So that's
kind of how I got introduced into it. I let
it go for a little bit. Then during the pandemic,
I got intrigued by it again. I remember hitting up
Burns and I was like, hey, like you want to
go try out this golf course? He was down. There
wasn't nothing to do. It was like the pandemic. I
think like restrictions were like starting to lift up already.
(06:17):
I ended up going to the thrift store try to
make up like a quick set out of whatever I
found out the thrift store. We went out to the
golf course. We've never we have never been to a
golf course. We didn't know etequacy, we didn't know anything
that had going that had to do with doing that
a golf course. So when you go to a golf course,
you can either start playing automatically after you book your thing,
or you could go to like the range right, practice
(06:39):
a little bit warm up, and then you go into
the to the golf course. So obviously, you know, we
don't have any gear, we don't have any balls, we
don't have any of that. We don't know anything about this.
We just brought like our clubs. So we pretty much
purchased some range balls for like five or ten bucks.
We go, we practice. We know, we feel good, like
we're not the best, We're like whatever, you know, let's
get the started. We take that bucket of range balls
(07:01):
with us, we put it in the golf cart. Mind you,
we don't have any golf bags. So we're setting the
clubs literally just right behind our seats and they're just
resting right behind it. Looks, dude, this settup looks super lame. Man.
We look so amateurish out there, and so we're taking
this range, we're taking the range balls, and we're just
hitting them and you know, we suck. So they're going
(07:22):
all over the place and the owner actually comes out.
He's like like pissed off at like me and burns
and he's like, have you guys never been out here?
Do you guys even know what you're doing.
Speaker 3 (07:32):
You're like, no, they're not supposed to take the take
the range balls practice.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
Yeah, we got to.
Speaker 4 (07:38):
Oh, you can't play on the course with those.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
Yeah, for the range, because what happens is you hit
them into this open field in the range, they got
a machine that collects it. You know, they keep recycling
or whatever. But when you take them out to the course,
like you have the risk of like hitting it into
the wild, they lose them. So here like every ball
is like twenty five cents. What are you doing this
and that? And blah blah, Like we were holding people up, dude.
(08:02):
It was a mess. So I reprimanded. We got in
trouble man. So after that, like he was cool, like
you know, like we kind of like figured it out.
We were so slow, we were just letting people pass by.
We're just giving them the signal hey, like you know,
just keep going or whatever. And then after that, like
pandemic was super weird, so like you know, restrictions were
(08:22):
up and down or whatever. And then I just started
like getting back into it. And then eventually, like my
boy Andy Mack, you know, it was a bachelor party,
he wanted to get a little bit more into golf,
so like I already had some experience in it, but
not really so you know him, our other friend Lalo
came out and like we started going out, you know,
and then that's kind of I just kept doing it
(08:44):
like ever since. It's been a couple of years now.
Speaker 3 (08:47):
Yeah, it's I mean, do you guys always do you
also feel like I don't want to call ourselves influencers.
It's sort of cringe for me calling us that, But
I've been getting messages from random people saying, I see
you guys playing, So now I want to where can
I start?
Speaker 4 (09:06):
And it's like, are we influencing people?
Speaker 1 (09:07):
Maybe you're inspiring people?
Speaker 5 (09:09):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (09:09):
Maybe, So I walk like a like I have these
moments where like, you know, I want to like do
like some influencer stuff because I have like the experience
and like building brands or like marketing, but also at
the same time, like this is just a fun thing
for me, and I do not want to mix it too,
because I have that habit of wanting to mix those
(09:30):
both and I don't want to do that. I literally
just want to leave this for like I want to
be able to suck at this, Like I want to
be able to not have that.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
Be your thing, be my own thing.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
And I have the pressure that I have to make
make this into a business.
Speaker 5 (09:40):
I want to disconnect from everything.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
But sometimes sometimes, dude, it's hard to turn off that switch,
you know, Like sometimes I'll take my camera out there,
like I'm recording some stuff, and I'm like, like I
could post this and maybe I could get like maybe
like someone will send me a package, you know, I
keep it up, maybe play like some free games. I
don't know. Sometimes I have to turn that off. But
I I get what you're saying, Like there's people that like,
definitely like I want to golf. I don't know why
(10:03):
they want a golf with me.
Speaker 6 (10:04):
I suck, but you know, yeah, or I mean, it
doesn't necessarily have to mean that you're doing it to
get something out of it. Maybe you're just posting because
you're just showing what you do, you know what I'm saying,
your hobby this what I mean, that's kind of like
when you're doing magic. You're kind of just showing that
there is something I'm getting into. This is like how
I've gotten better. And then it's just documenting, yeah, exactly,
documenting your your progress yea, the progress and in return
(10:26):
it's inspired some people to want to join.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
So if you do it like that, I think that's
like fun. That's more organic, you know, I mean organic
and it's fun, And I think it just really separates
because like for us, like DJing, Like you know, even
though you do enjoy DJing, there's a lot of like
the marketing that goes into Yeah, so.
Speaker 6 (10:42):
That's different, you know what I'm saying. Now you're doing
it because that's where the money's coming from.
Speaker 5 (10:46):
For fun now, Like, yeah, I started doing golf course
reviews just because I naturally like that part of golfing
where you go to a different course and yeah, different
like literally, like the restrooms are different, the golf courses different,
the food is different. Like there's so many like levels
to it that, oh, the quality of this one's not
that good. This one's better that. I was like, I
(11:07):
want to like document this because I want other people
to know what's that spot, like, what's spot like? So
it's more like natural like documenting like this.
Speaker 6 (11:16):
That's something that I've done with like movies. I've always
been like a big movie person and always had an opinion.
I was like, oh, I just start sharing like my
opinion about movies. And once I started doing it, I
was getting not trying to get anything out of it,
but yeah, there's something to it. You know what I'm saying,
You're helping somebody out al wants to set a care package.
Speaker 3 (11:31):
I'm not.
Speaker 4 (11:35):
It's wild how many times I go.
Speaker 3 (11:38):
It's there was a point where I was going every
day to either the range or of course, And what
was that story you were telling me? How you know
before I started this, you suggested it to me. And
what remember I was saying, like I don't want to
I don't want to play golf by myself.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
Yeah, yeah, I suggested you go out and try it
by yourself. I told you like, I think we were
coming out as a group, and I told you, like,
I think you're going to find yourself that you're coming out.
You're gonna come out to the range for yourself, like
do it, like come out or even play a game.
Speaker 4 (12:08):
And I was so against it.
Speaker 3 (12:09):
This is when I was like looking for a hobby
and I was kind of going through it and in
this part of my life. And then yeah, I just
kept saying, like why would I want to go out
by myself where I want to be surrounded by people?
Speaker 4 (12:24):
And yeah, you just kind of.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
I didn't think. It's a different vibe, you know what
I'm saying.
Speaker 6 (12:28):
You probably concentrate more now, So it's like there's a
different side of it. Whereas you go out with the friends,
you're just kind of hanging out. It's more of a
social thing yourself. It's kind of on your skill you're.
Speaker 3 (12:39):
Getting Yeah, you're trying to get better, You're trying to
figure out you know. Yes, So I'm so happy I
found this and and yeah, I don't want to I'm addicted.
I'm hooked.
Speaker 4 (12:49):
I'm definitely hooked.
Speaker 5 (12:50):
So got the bug?
Speaker 4 (12:51):
Yeah, man, and let me wrap it up with this.
Speaker 3 (12:53):
We got to shout out DJ Straws as well, who
golfs as well too, and so.
Speaker 4 (13:00):
Or Burns, bro Tea, myself and Straws.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
We have a.
Speaker 4 (13:05):
Crew now with you know, we have our little chats.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
I just want to put this for the record, is
the best player on the team.
Speaker 4 (13:14):
But so we we have group chat.
Speaker 3 (13:17):
We have a group chat that happening on the text
right and at the top it just said group members.
And I just changed the name to the Fantastic four
f O R E like four yeah, four, And in
my head, I'm all, this is so common. Someone probably
has this name already and I googled it, no one.
Speaker 6 (13:39):
Has, Like you better put us you know what I'm saying, Man,
the Fantastic four.
Speaker 5 (13:45):
Get that handle.
Speaker 6 (13:46):
It was either that for people before we put out
this podcast.
Speaker 4 (13:50):
Now it was either that or the Bogie Boys. But yeah, so.
Speaker 3 (13:58):
But yeah, it's good to find this crew, this group
of friends who DJ and have this love for golf
and we just have this connection and it's it's been
a it's been a good experience and a good.
Speaker 5 (14:11):
It's cool because then we go out there and then
we talk about our gigs and stuff like that too.
Speaker 3 (14:15):
Well, speaking of gigs, I think you know we want
to get into right like yeah, there.
Speaker 5 (14:22):
You go, wellsitions.
Speaker 3 (14:28):
Like I said, there's so many levels layers where we
could go to and I wanted to start with, do
you guys consider yourselves veterans already or are you in
your prime? I think I'm past my prime. I in
my eyes, I see you guys in your prime.
Speaker 2 (14:43):
How do you guys? You see it? Probably gig more
than me, man, I think you're hitting your prime again.
I don't know a lot of people that do that.
Speaker 4 (14:52):
I don't know. I feel like I'm aging out.
Speaker 3 (14:54):
And the reason I say that is because of the
music where people will come up and ask for requests
and I will have no idea what song that is.
But apparently when I got song, when I downloaded and played,
everybody knows the song.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
I think. I think that's kind of unfair though, because
there's so much music like every day, and then like
you know, at least back then, like you would get
your new music like through radio, but now like there's
so many outlets on YouTube, Spotify, Soundclass.
Speaker 1 (15:21):
So many artists.
Speaker 4 (15:22):
So is it to the point where we can't keep up?
Speaker 1 (15:26):
It's exact, especially you got different genres and so much.
Speaker 5 (15:30):
It's also like an algorithm thing too, where the hottest
song in your algorithm is not the same as my
song in my algorithm. But for whatever reason, they both
do crazy numbers. So it's almost like subjective in a
way where it's like, yeah, it's hot to you, but
not to me.
Speaker 3 (15:50):
You know, Yeah, real quick, can you guys answer where
you think you guys are at in your.
Speaker 1 (15:55):
Careers prime, entering, the prime, exit the prime?
Speaker 5 (16:01):
I don't know, because I feel the same with you,
the same thing where it's like I get requests and
I'm like, I have no idea what you're talking about.
So that makes me think like, all right, like maybe
I should go look for another career and start like
aging out. But then, like I was looking at my
calendar and I was like, I'm bo for like a
long time. So it's like I don't know. I kind
(16:23):
of go back and forth with.
Speaker 1 (16:24):
Then, yeah, so what do you just what do you not?
Speaker 2 (16:26):
Like?
Speaker 6 (16:27):
What is the measurement that you're kind of Is it age?
Is it experienced? Is it knowledge? Because I kind of
feel like the way you're putting it for yourself is
more about age because you feel like you're not tapped in.
Speaker 1 (16:39):
Yeah, there's but it could also be experience.
Speaker 3 (16:43):
Well I always said this, this is what I've always
said through my career is once it starts turning into
a job. When it feels like a job. Yeah, that's
when I know that I'm at that stage where.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
Okay, so that's your measuring stick then.
Speaker 3 (16:55):
Yeah, where Because I've said this before years the past
years of DJing, who would be there, all your friends,
all your friends would be there and you got to
have this experience and that would be the energy that
I loved. But now in this stage of my life,
majority of my friends are DJ so everyone has gigs.
(17:16):
So who's there people you don't know? So that's it's
turning into a job for me. Am I at that
point now too, where I'm I'm I'm I'm kind of
enjoying it a little bit more now, but I do
feel like it's I'm getting to that part where I
shouldn't for me, I shouldn't be here anymore. That's just
(17:37):
how I feel for me personally.
Speaker 5 (17:39):
I could definitely relate as far as the sometimes it's
not as fun, because I went through a phase where
I was even telling him like, I think I'm gonna
start like looking for another gig or something because it
was just not fun. But I think maybe I was
too much in my head and it was just a
lot of those slow nights that obviously people just don't
(17:59):
post of some people do, but we get a lot
of slow nights where you're like, man, this is whack,
this is boring, And I think I had to shift
my mindset and now it's like you find a fun
in it in a different way. So for me, it's
like I'm going back to like digging records that are
dope remixes and being able to play them out or
(18:19):
making my own like new spots. I kind of like
have a different perspective to them. But yeah, I think
it almost comes in ways where I'm like, uh, maybe
I'm like doing it too much, and then it's like,
all right, you have to find the fun in it again.
Speaker 6 (18:33):
It's almost like you got to rebrand yourself or you
gotta find something like brinstance that makes it fun, or
do something different to switch something up. Or maybe it's
not going to the clubs so often, and maybe it's
doing events more, maybe it's doing shifting more into like weddings,
or it's just sometimes you just gotta do something different
because I think even in you know, on the radio side,
(18:54):
you just get into a funk sometimes or just feels
repetitious and sometimes I catch myself doing that, and I go, oh,
I need to take a step back.
Speaker 1 (19:01):
I need to rethink things.
Speaker 6 (19:02):
Maybe I need to write down new ideas, maybe I
need to switch things up, And then you can find
that like that passion again.
Speaker 4 (19:08):
I think you just hit it on the head. For
what was going on for my past two years is.
Speaker 1 (19:15):
Well, I think for you, you just had personal shit
that was going on.
Speaker 3 (19:18):
But also there's a joke that people always say about me, like, yo,
I thought you I thought you said you're retiring, but
you just said right now, there has to be a rebrand.
And I think two years ago, when I lost all
that weight and then I got the new Brotea design,
my new logo, it felt like I was just starting again.
So I think that was my rebrand and I started
(19:41):
enjoying it. But it's been like almost three years now,
and now it's getting I'm kind of going back to like, wait,
i feel like I'm out of touch with what the
kids want these days.
Speaker 4 (19:50):
But that's more of a personal thing.
Speaker 5 (19:52):
It's also like the rooms that you play in too.
That's what I've noticed, where if I play in rooms
a lot that are like that demo of people keep
requesting stuff or keep asking for things that I don't like.
That kind of gets to me on like I don't
really like DJing, But then DJ a room where they're like,
just go in, do your thing, yeah, And I'm like
(20:12):
playing all these like remixes and you want to do yeah,
like scratching or doing whatever, and I'm like, this is fun.
Speaker 2 (20:19):
It all they mean to cut you off. I think
it also depends like on what type of DJ you are, right,
Like there's DJs that genuinely enjoy like servicing the people,
like that's what they signed up for, Like, you know,
they want to do weddings, like they want to do
these private gigs, like they do not have a passion
for like a specific amount of music, a certain music,
Like they literally just want to please like whoever's there, Right,
(20:41):
And there's other DJs who like the creative aspect of
it and they have a sound that they like and
they wish they would tour and they would play every
other room. Got your other DJs who just genuinely enjoy
doing bottle service clubs, you know, and playing like the
top forty hits. So I think it just really depends
on naturally what kind of DJ.
Speaker 3 (20:57):
You are you know, what advice would you give, like
someone that that's going through that that's in a fork
in the road, they're trying to figure out their identity.
I mean me, growing up in as a DJ, I
got to experience it all. I would say I'm a
majority in open format DJ because I did the kinsignet
as the weddings growing up, and that trains you to
(21:20):
be an open format DJ. And that's kind of like
how my career, My career trajectory went high because from
just the experience. But it's so different now with the
younger generation. They could they could easily learn how to
DJ so quick now on YouTube and then pick a
genre they want. So, like, what advice would you give
(21:43):
like a newcomer that's trying to figure out what direction
do I want to go?
Speaker 5 (21:49):
I would say, try all lanes in djaying and that's
like everything from different rooms, different events, mixes, radio, like everything,
try everything, and whicheverone brings you the most joy, stick
to that one, yeah, and like go ten times one
(22:10):
hundred times on that one, Like brand yourself as that one,
Like make music to that one, like whatever it is,
like be the best at that one specific lane and
stick to it. Because what you're gonna have the most
fun and it'll be easy to when you do get
in a funk to rebrand yourself within that same lane
instead of like it becoming a job.
Speaker 1 (22:32):
That's a good point, I think.
Speaker 2 (22:33):
So I think you probably have to ask yourself, like
what is it about DJ and that you like? You know,
like what are you looking to get out of it?
You know? Are you looking to make hell a bank roll?
You know? Are you looking to play the biggest stages?
You know? Are you looking just to rock something?
Speaker 6 (22:48):
Is this gonna be your career? Is this just a
side job? Is it just for your hobby?
Speaker 2 (22:52):
I think those are like important questions to try to
ask yourself because I know, like a lot of people
like like for them, like this is literally just a hobby,
you know, and for other people like this is a passion,
like they want to be able to tour, they want
to be able to make their career. Like I said,
like there's other people who want to run the greatest
like wedding business or the greatest private event business. Like
it really just depends on what is your motive behind
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wanting to do this.
Speaker 3 (23:13):
Yeah, I agree with especially what Burne said too, because
We have friends that kind of put all their chips
on on being a wedding slash events uh DJ and
they are bank right because that's they focused on that.
It's almost like you don't see him at the clubs anymore. Yeah,
so I think that's yeah, that's a good advice of
try it all, ye, and then find find something that
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you really enjoyed.
Speaker 4 (23:37):
You know, for us, don't you.
Speaker 3 (23:39):
Say that we were fortunate that we got to do that.
We got to experience so many genres and ye, Like
I said, I did weddings in my days.
Speaker 5 (23:49):
And then like you can dip back into that whatever,
say it's like a wedding. You're like, you know, I
haven't done a wedding in a while. I got the opportunity.
I'm gonna do it because I want to, because it's fun.
You could go back into it, but then come back
into your lane just for fun.
Speaker 6 (24:04):
Sometimes you might need a break to switch things up,
and you know, I mean the club scene can get
kind of tiring seen the same people and it's like,
you know what, I still like DJing, but I want
to be in a different atmosphere.
Speaker 5 (24:13):
Exactly what happens.
Speaker 4 (24:15):
I grew up with mentors. Do you feel like the younger.
Speaker 3 (24:18):
DJs today do you think their mentors are all online
or because sometimes I feel like that's a lost thing.
Speaker 1 (24:27):
The mentors like who they're watching.
Speaker 2 (24:29):
So I think I think, going back to like your
original question before we completely went like left field about
if we were veterans or not, I think like when
I see veterans, I think of like the DJs that
like I saw like growing up, and they're still active.
So I'm just kind of like, man, like those are vets,
and it feels weird to call myself a VET. Mmm,
I'm I don't know if that would be the correct label.
(24:49):
Like I'm sure maybe i'm a VET to like some
of like the younger like people coming up. But I
think I went through like that phase of like learning
like the etequacy and learning the rules of like you know,
what do you do when you come up to a club?
Like how do you open? How do you do? Any
of that stuff. I think I've went through that phase enough.
Or I've cleared dance floors, you know, I've killed dance floors,
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you know, in a positive way, know what to do
when a bottle was coming out, Like I think I've
done it enough to understand, you know, how the whole
program works. Right, So I don't know if you would
consider that a VET.
Speaker 6 (25:21):
But I think I think knowledge is like part of
being a VET. Experience and knowledge.
Speaker 2 (25:27):
Yeah, I think so. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (25:29):
Don't you guys agree to that, because I still believe
in this, and I still the sense of learning never
stops like I'm learning.
Speaker 5 (25:41):
I still feel like I don't know shit.
Speaker 4 (25:44):
I was telling Jizo this this.
Speaker 3 (25:46):
I just did this recently, like a few weeks ago,
where I had a day off and it was a
Friday night, and I told myself, I'm gonna visit three
homies that's DJ at different clubs and I just want
to listen. I want to listen to what the crowd
reacts to what music you guys are playing. And that's
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I don't know if that's still happening, because when I
DJ clubs, no DJ comes up to me like, hey,
I'm I'm just young DJ trying to So I don't know.
Speaker 4 (26:17):
I don't know if that happens. Maybe they're there and
I just don't know.
Speaker 3 (26:20):
But that's something that I would suggest people do, is
go to different clubs and listen to different DJs.
Speaker 4 (26:27):
That that are established already.
Speaker 2 (26:29):
You know what. To that point, like, I feel like
that's such a lost art. I do see like DJs
every once in a while like come out and do that,
and I think me and Burns like I have done
it a couple of times. We should probably do a
little bit more than we do. But I think, like
that's such a lost art because I I one thing
that I've seen is like a lot of like entitled
like with a lot of people they want to play
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certain rooms, but they've never even been to the room
and they don't know what to play when they get there, right,
but yet you know, they're like hey, like you know
I should be here, like I'm good enough, like let
me get a shot, let me open, let me do this.
But it's like, bro, like you've never even been to
this room, Like how do you even know like what
to expect.
Speaker 4 (27:12):
Yeah, you you got a network with the club owners,
the managers, promoter, and the DJs that are out there.
Speaker 2 (27:18):
Yeah, but you got to understand the environment you're walking
into it because you got to understand like it's not
the U Show, Like this is a business, you know,
and if you go in there and like you know
you're having the headlining set of your life, you know,
but like it's just not the it's not the right
vibe for the room, Like you're hurting their cells.
Speaker 6 (27:35):
Speaking of which, if, if, how you feel about being
a headliner and the DJ before you burns you?
Speaker 1 (27:45):
That's not because I know this is.
Speaker 6 (27:46):
Something that a lot of DJs hate, especially being a headliner,
that you know, the person before you is playing all
the hits and it's like not even eleven yet, and
you're like, yo, you're gonna leave me something.
Speaker 1 (27:58):
How do you feel about that?
Speaker 3 (27:59):
First of foremost, in case there's like new listeners or
people that are not DJs, one of you define what
burning the DJ.
Speaker 2 (28:06):
Is, burning the DJ is there are Unfortunately today, like
there's so much music out that's very hard to decide
what is hot. You would think is it, but but
there's always that group of tracks that the abvious that
would hit the hottest when it's like midnight or one thirty, right,
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our prime our clubs here closed, Like I won thirty
one forty five, so our prime time is like midnight
thirty forty five. Yeah, So like those are the prime
those you're gonna get the most reaction when you throw
those songs in right. It does not make sense, And
I don't know why people do this to drop these
songs at eleven, ten forty five, ten thirty when there
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is no one there.
Speaker 3 (28:50):
Yeah, so I've brought this up in the past episodes before,
maybe ten years ago. I think all DJ's felt some
sort of a way.
Speaker 1 (28:58):
Oh man, ten years ago, fifteen.
Speaker 4 (29:00):
Years ago, you would get mad. Today.
Speaker 3 (29:03):
I don't let it bother me. Maybe it's a personal
thing where I don't let it bother me. But it
makes me think, like where, like our new DJs, where
are they learning etiquette? Where are they learning the ethics
of being an opener?
Speaker 5 (29:19):
I don't think you can learn that anywhere. You have
to experience it. Like it's not like you can google it.
It's not like it's not on Instagram, it's not on TikTok.
Speaker 6 (29:28):
Or maybe it gets passed down from DJs and it
goes back to your point about mentors.
Speaker 2 (29:32):
Yeah, nothing hits harder than getting like kind of like
what's the word, like I guess put in your place
or kind of like shuck like you know, or like
you'r DJing with like a vet and like you fuck
up something and they're like what are you doing, like
you're messing up? Like I don't think there's that anymore
at least like like maybe.
Speaker 5 (29:49):
That's almost like they let them train wreck, Like yeah,
I ain't saying nothing, you know, And I think it
just kind of stems from like nobody wants to be
the bad guy.
Speaker 2 (29:59):
Yeah no, yeah, but it's definitely needed sometimes because like
at least here, at least here in Fresdent, like if
you go out to a different market, like you might
run into that situation or someone's gonna check you, like
if you're not you're not on your stuff.
Speaker 3 (30:11):
But I piggybacking on that and what we're all talking
about with mentors, Yeah, I think that's what the younger
generation needs because if I don't know you, I'm not
gonna do it. I'm not gonna like you said, I'm
not gonna be the bad guy. And like yeah, but
what if they had a friend that said, no, yes, bro,
don't play.
Speaker 6 (30:30):
These songs, because if you think about it, like, how
would you know, right, if you're an up and coming
DJ and you're on like let's say at ten, of
course you're gonna be like, wellhit, I'm gonna pay all
the hot shit, you don't know.
Speaker 2 (30:38):
No better, right, So it's like you can't even really
get mad at them too, But at the same time,
like nobody wants to be the bad guy, So.
Speaker 5 (30:45):
Yeah, I was. You have to remember your place, right
unless you're booked for your talent and they're like we
want you to showcase at a festival or whatever, they're
setting the stage up for you. That's totally a different experience.
But ninety five percent of the time at least for
sure for Fresno, you got to remember the bigger picture,
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like why are you DJing. You're there to provide an
experience for people at a club, So you're there to
provide a service, And what's the best opportunity of the
best experience for people at a club. It's you get
the prime songs at the prime time. Like it's not
about you, it's not about well, I want to show
that I'm a good DJ. Well, if you want to
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show you're a good DJ, do what's best for the
venue at the end of the day, because one, they're
giving you the check and they're going to book you again.
But then it's also about like the people, like you
want the people to have a good time and nobody
wants to hear the same song two or three times,
especially when there's so many good music that why would
you play the same thing twice?
Speaker 2 (31:51):
Yeah, And I think also too, like a lot of
people like come into like these rooms like looking almost
to kind of prove something right, like, oh, like I
do belong here, let me go ham and let me
show you like what I can. There's a little bit ego,
and I don't think it's I don't think it's in
a bad way. I just think like they're thinking, like
I got this shot, Like this is my shot. I
gotta go in, you know, and like again, like there's
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so much experience and there's so much etequacy that kind
of goes like the whole Like it's literally not about
the headliner at least in he's like open format clubs,
It's not about the headliner. It's more about how does
the business work like cohesively, Like when you go to
like an d M or a rave it's it's kind
of a different ball game, you know, Like it depends
on who your headliner is. But for the most part,
every DJ book there is book there to showcase, you know,
(32:34):
and if they want to go Ham, when there's like
two or three people in there, like you know, that's
the thing that's their brand. You know, they're they're kind
of going in there as an artist, you know. But
if you're kind of doing like the open format, you know,
bottle service clubs, like it's you got to look at it.
It's it's a business. And you know every everything works together,
from like the bottle service girls to the bartenders.
Speaker 1 (32:52):
You know, it's almost like a formula, right, It's a formula.
It's like it's different.
Speaker 2 (32:57):
Yeah, And there's always that argument, and I've been seeing
to kind of pop up like, well, you know, the
veteran DJ or the the headliner DJ. Should be able
to play, shouldn't need, shouldn't need the hit, should be
able to play, and we will.
Speaker 4 (33:11):
It's true. It is a true thing.
Speaker 1 (33:13):
Yeah, But again it's it's more it's principle.
Speaker 3 (33:17):
You would hope the individual would understand because I've opened
many a clubs and I still do to this day.
To me, it's more a little bit more fun because
you know, you challenge yourself by how do I rock
this crowd without playing the hits? And there's so like
(33:38):
you just said, there's so many songs that it's there's
so many songs to choose frums that that's not a primetime.
Speaker 2 (33:44):
The way I see it is like I got to
play these top forty, these bangers we would call them
or whatever, every single time for sure because people enjoy them.
I enjoy opening set a lot more because I get
to tap bits of stuff that I would different I
can't get away with at like risk, like scaring the
dance floor, you know, but right here, like like early,
(34:04):
you know you're warming it up. You could throw, You
could get a little bit more experimental with some stuff.
Speaker 5 (34:08):
You could be more selfish as a DJ as far
as like hey check this out. This is what I like, yes,
rather than like, well I'm gonna play.
Speaker 1 (34:15):
Maybe a good time to test things, you know what
I mean.
Speaker 2 (34:17):
Yeah, So I think like that is like super slept
on it. But I think, like you know, if you've
never been, if you never played these rooms, like I
think the approach is always like a little bit like
I'm going to drop like a twelve thirty set at
like ten thirty.
Speaker 4 (34:29):
Man, Like yeah, I mean you said it.
Speaker 3 (34:32):
Where when I go into it, I don't let burning
bother me because even if I replay all the songs
that the opener played. I know my way is different.
Speaker 5 (34:45):
Y yeah, yeah, get the different And.
Speaker 3 (34:47):
Let me ask you guys this because I I have
this thought that the whole burning thing playing songs twice
in the club.
Speaker 4 (34:57):
I think it's just.
Speaker 2 (34:58):
A DJ thing.
Speaker 4 (34:59):
No, for sure, I don't think people crowdcare.
Speaker 2 (35:02):
And for what it's worth, like a lot of this
conversation that we're having, like the people do not care, right,
but there is, but there's a science behind it that
they are not aware of.
Speaker 5 (35:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (35:13):
Yeah, it's just like they don't even realize that there's
like a reason why things are played it the way
they are.
Speaker 5 (35:18):
Care but if all of this wasn't in place, they
would know that something's off. Like it's almost like subliminally,
like there's like.
Speaker 1 (35:30):
Consciously they don't get it.
Speaker 5 (35:31):
It's like unconsciously like it should be this way, but
they don't know.
Speaker 6 (35:35):
Yeah, it's well, hints why they asked for the hottest
song early, and it's just like, well, not yet, but
they don't know why, but they will feel why, you
know what I mean.
Speaker 5 (35:45):
It's like if you were to hear if you were
to have like a regular person listen to a DJ
that's train wrecking. They would be like, something sounds off,
but we don't know what it is. And then you
show them like a DJ with like a really good
one it sounded nicer, like they can't explain it to you, BOBX.
We could be like, well, you know, the technical aspects
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of like beat matching and all this kind of stuff.
Some of the same concept as far as like song selection.
Speaker 2 (36:13):
I guess, I guess think about it like waking up
in the morning, Like you know, you want to wake
up nice and easy. You know, you get your coffee,
you know, your newspaper or whatever it is, that you're
doing it right instead of just.
Speaker 1 (36:23):
Starting progression, instead of just starting off.
Speaker 2 (36:26):
With like, oh my god, man, you don't run out
the door in your pajamas changed, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (36:35):
With that being said, a few maybe a month ago,
we all had like a DJ meeting and got to
meet like some new DJs. And again, just because I'm
I'm on the other side of this, the aging out
sort of thing, it's so cool to see these new faces.
So they're out there, they're they're new, and I'm I'm
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hoping that they're listening to this and taking some of
this vice of you know, who are you guys surrounding
yourselves with you know, do you guys have that that
mentor that will tell you if you're doing it wrong
or doing it right? And just just because that's how
I was taught, you know, I had my mentors.
Speaker 2 (37:15):
I think like I think, like a lot of people
worries is like how can I come back to this room?
You know, how how can I get booked back? Right?
And I think that's where like a lot of like,
especially if you're starting out, like the excitement of getting
booked is like it's really there. I would say, man, like,
as long as like we're all DJs, we all mess up,
we all have like shitty nights, you know, I don't
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think like none of us here are super harsh on
each other about that. But I think like as long
as you come in there, you know, you're a cool person,
Like you know, you talk to the headliner, you get
your stuff out of the way quickly, like you know,
you don't burn them, You do all the stuff that
you know could be advacy or even if you ask questions,
I feel like that would open the door for you
more than coming in there and just hardcore killing is
(37:56):
set at like ten thirty, right and then like bouncing
or whatever case maybe you know, I think just being
more of like a I guess we always say it, right,
like don't be a dick.
Speaker 5 (38:04):
Right, don't be a dick.
Speaker 2 (38:05):
Yeah, you just go in there and you know, like
just genuinely like show like interest, right, don't just show
up for your set and then bounce, you know, like
stay in there and like get to know and get
and learn. Don't just assume like you just know it all.
Because like even though like I've been doing this for
templus years, so it burns like we're still learning every
single day, you know, like there's still so much more
(38:26):
to this that you know, we're we're gonna learn and
we're gonna fail at you know. So I think like
for all the new DJs listening out there, you know,
if you've never played at a club before, like be
afraid to ask these questions. You know, like yeah, like
you may run into a couple of DJs like you know,
our dicks and like don't want to help you out,
but you there are a lot of good DJs out
here that like are willing to you know, shoot your game.
Speaker 5 (38:46):
Yeah, yeah, you definitely have to be teachable, and you
got to be coachable and just be a good person.
It's like any other business, Like your brand is like
your person.
Speaker 1 (38:55):
Right, So you can always get better.
Speaker 5 (38:57):
Yeah, you can always get better. And if you're a
cool person, you're gonna get a lot further than if
you think you know you're the ship. And it's like, hey,
you have to have confidence as well. But at the
end of the day, you just got to be a
cool person and get along with everybody.
Speaker 3 (39:10):
Yeah, is the Are the veterans gonna remember you as
a dick?
Speaker 5 (39:13):
Or is like as a cry exactly?
Speaker 3 (39:16):
Let's move to this next subject in DJing. You know
we're talking about music. Uh, the so many that you
could choose from. But I want to know what's what's
working for you guys. What's how are you guys getting
your new music? And I'll give you an example for me.
I when people come up for request, it doesn't bother me, like, yeah,
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request these songs?
Speaker 4 (39:39):
Yeah, because number one, it gives me. It educates me.
Speaker 3 (39:43):
In case I don't know about it because I have
I'll take out my phone and I'll tell them. I'm
I always tell if if I don't have it, I'll
tell them I don't have it, but I'm gonna download
it the minute I get home, and I'm gonna listen to.
Speaker 5 (39:56):
It and some homework of the times.
Speaker 3 (39:58):
These requests that I've never heard of before work at
the clubs and and that's what gets me through my
gigs is these requests.
Speaker 5 (40:07):
What it's like a cheat sheet. It's like we're supposed
to read the room, and if the room is telling
you what they want to hear, then it's kind of
like a cheat sheet, right, Like obviously, like we can
get into requests and stuff, but that's like a whole
other topic. Like there's a way to request.
Speaker 4 (40:20):
Yeah, we'll get into that next time.
Speaker 5 (40:22):
Yeah, there's definitely a way to request. But we do
want to know what people want to hear. That's literally
our job. It's like how can we get the vibe
up to the room, And it's like, yeah, I want
to know what you want to hear. Obviously there's a
way to approach me and tell me. But as far
as I getting music.
Speaker 4 (40:40):
Yeah, how are you guys?
Speaker 3 (40:41):
How are you guys learning about the new stuff or
the TikTok generation is bringing back the older stuff that's
working today? Yeah, yeah, so like so that's another tool
that I use.
Speaker 4 (40:54):
TikTok. Yeah, how about you guys, what if I's using.
Speaker 5 (40:57):
Social media, I'm lucky enough to be out and I'm
with another DJ and they're playing whatever they're playing, like oh,
I forgot about that song, let me make a note
of it, or like oh that song works too. And
for me, I'm big on like modern day crate digging.
Right back in the days, it was like going to
the record store and digging the greats. For me, what
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that means now is like going into a rabbit hole
of like band camp, SoundCloud, following DJs and like listening
to what they post, so like, hey, I made this,
check it out, all right, let me listen to that. Okay,
Then I'll go into their SoundCloud. What else do you have?
And I'm like spending hours, bro, And it's like, oh, dang,
I gotta go do something else. Like that's my way
(41:41):
of kind of making my sets different. It might be
you know, a Kendrick song that's popular, but I found
it in a different way that when I play people
be like whoa, what the hell? Like that's way different.
It's like why did work to find this?
Speaker 1 (41:58):
You know?
Speaker 3 (41:58):
Nope, because for me, I don't. For me, I don't
have time to do that in my life. I don't either,
but try to That's yeah, that's.
Speaker 2 (42:06):
Dope, bro t. Shoot, there are a couple of ways. So,
like I think we talked, we touched on it a
little bit earlier. Like there's so much music out that,
like it's hard to gauge like what is like what
what's what's hot like right now? You know whatever, even
though there's a there's a certain amount of records that
obviously do really good, like the Kendrick Lamars. But I'm
(42:29):
gonna shoot some game. There's this podcast that I listen to.
It's called the Earbutz Podcast. Yeah, all they do is
talk about music that works the clubs. So sometimes you know,
like you gotta drop the ego and just like you know, fuck,
like I don't know everything, So I'm gonna listen to
this and I'm gonna see like what works and what
doesn't work. Also too, like you could use like your Spotify's,
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your Apple music, like they have charts, like they have
stuff that works in the Bay Area, they have stuff
that works in LA which more than likely will probably
work in Fresnow. So sometimes you gotta get a little
proactive with the tools.
Speaker 6 (42:59):
They That's another thing too, if you're like a traveling DJ,
is stuff's very regional too. That may work on the
West Coast, but it may not work down south. So
that's like a whole other conversation to that point.
Speaker 2 (43:09):
Like that's where you kind of have to tap in
with like your DJ homemie, your research, like, yo, what's
working here? You know, Like I think, don't be afraid
to like ask those questions. It doesn't make you, I
don't think. I don't think it makes you like a
sucker DJ, not at all. I think it just it
makes you smart, right, And sometimes you got to be
able to utilize like those things and do your homework.
Speaker 3 (43:28):
So the two things I'll mentioned about this particular subject
we're talking about. Number one, I said it earlier. We're
always learning. Number two is the story that you know,
you would hope people will learn from their mistakes. And
this was years ago when I was touring. Uh, I
was a touring DJ, and I was, you know, I
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was in my ego area, Like, yeah, I'm dope in California,
so I get to go to Texas.
Speaker 4 (43:54):
So I did a gig in Texas.
Speaker 3 (43:57):
And this was during like the chopping screwed era, we
didn't play a lot of that here in Fresno in California,
so I went into it like wait till they hear
my way of DJ California West coastyle.
Speaker 4 (44:11):
When I tell you I cleared the dance board never
was like.
Speaker 5 (44:16):
Yeah man.
Speaker 3 (44:16):
And from that moment on, like it really made you
learn to research where you're gonna dj. I'm even I'm
even doing that this weekend where you know, I'm DJing
new spot and I was asking birds like yo, wait,
I gotta play more house, like you know, so.
Speaker 5 (44:33):
Like it's a new room, what do I play?
Speaker 3 (44:36):
So another advice that I started recently doing in the
past five ten years is if I'm wrong, it used
to be shunned upon where you put a set together,
But I'm not necessarily putting a set together. I'm just
preparing a folder of these songs I want to play
at this club. So it's not necessarily the order I'm.
Speaker 5 (44:56):
Not playing or I'm big on that.
Speaker 4 (44:59):
So I would never big on that until like the
past five I.
Speaker 1 (45:02):
Would definitely red was that like an ego thing?
Speaker 4 (45:04):
Yeah, because I'm like I know what to.
Speaker 6 (45:05):
Do, like everything, nothing wrong to being prepared, like I
even like on the radio side, like I write down
my talk, but I don't know, I don't like this.
Speaker 1 (45:16):
Ain't nothing wrong with that.
Speaker 2 (45:17):
I don't know if it's like I could be wrong, right,
but I don't know if it's like the hip hop
and DJing that is like very like probably it's very raw, man,
like I got this, like you know, I don't.
Speaker 1 (45:28):
It's on the fly. On the fly, yeah, freestyle off
the top of.
Speaker 2 (45:32):
The that's kind of like the core of it. But
I think as like, you know, we get older and
like you know, we progress and things change obviously, like shoot,
like it's kind of cool to kind of get prepared
and read freak out.
Speaker 5 (45:44):
Like to be organized is so like un like it's ranger. Yeah,
there's been so many times where they're like in the moment,
oh do this or hit this or play this sound.
And because I was organized, I was able to get
there quick. It made me look like a better DJ
rather than if I was like, no, I know what
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I'm doing and then like just get a curb loot
and or oh well let me look for that or wait,
what was the name of that. It's like you have
to be ready and organic.
Speaker 6 (46:12):
To me, being organized and prepared will never be uncool. Yeah,
it's cool to be organized and prepared exactly. Don't get
it twisted and clean.
Speaker 4 (46:20):
Yeah, agree with that.
Speaker 3 (46:24):
Organized, prepare sets and yeah, because you're performing so and
we're lucky enough to have that skill of if there's
a moment where you kind of need to go off
off your preparation because you just thought of something, we
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have that skill and then guess what after that you
can go back and yeah, so definitely prepared. Okay, let's
let I mean you brought it up the whole request
when when we get requests at the club, requests love hate, Well,
we had we had straws in a couple of episodes
ago and.
Speaker 1 (47:04):
Passion.
Speaker 2 (47:05):
I don't think a lot of genuinely.
Speaker 3 (47:07):
So we'll go we'll go into it, we'll dive into it.
But again, I think Burne said it right. There's the
right way, there's the wrong way. Yeah, sometimes you just
come at us wrong.
Speaker 6 (47:16):
That stuff out of pocket, right, Yeah, that's what it is.
Showing the phone on your forehead.
Speaker 3 (47:21):
The phone one is wild to me. They're showing the
phone one.
Speaker 2 (47:25):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (47:26):
That's a generational thing.
Speaker 4 (47:27):
I'm on the fence on that one.
Speaker 2 (47:28):
I haven't gotten that one as much. I recently started
doing these like Bad Bunny reggaeton parties. That's probably the
place I've seen it the most.
Speaker 3 (47:36):
So like if we wait, so it's a bad Bunny
party and it was all play.
Speaker 2 (47:41):
It's like it's like bad Bunny and like other like
reggaeton stuff, right, and so like sometimes like they're pretty
open to it, but other times, like they just want
to hear like bad Bunny, so they'll put the phone
like you'll play maybe like one two songs that are
Bad Bunny, but the phone like play bad Bunny or whatever.
I haven't seen it much in like other clothes, but
like I have seen it.
Speaker 1 (47:59):
Though you just act like you don't see it or
do you acknowledge it?
Speaker 2 (48:02):
Sometimes I both depends on where they got, like where
they got me, like you know, if it's like if it.
Speaker 1 (48:08):
Depends on if she's hot or not, Like I.
Speaker 2 (48:16):
Think it depends on like if they're cool, right, So
like if they put it up one time, like you know,
they drop it down and they leave me alone, like
you know, I'll acknowledge and I'll play it. But if
they're like they walk up to like the front of
the stage and putting their phone up like we're.
Speaker 1 (48:28):
Not even saying anything.
Speaker 5 (48:29):
Tell me, yeah, simple human manners, like you wouldn't go
up to anybody else and disturb them or be rude
or like, it's just simple. It's going back to being
don't be a dick, like to be a cool person
like you have. It's your approach to if you go
up to someone, excuse me, I know you're busy, but hey,
if you get a chance, can you do this? That's
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all that's good. I want to throw some money in there.
It's even better, you know what I mean. But there's
people I think what gets to me is the entitled
of the rudess. Yeah, like play this song. It's not hey,
you get a chance, or hey can you it's like
play this song. It's like, motherfuck, I'm not a juke box. Yeah,
And it's like more than likely I'm gonna play that
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song or if I'm not gonna play it, like I'm
not gonna play it. Have fun. And I've told people
that before too, where it's like it's pissed me off.
Sometimes it's hard to piss me off. It's like, well
they kept coming back, Hey, can you play it? Here's
where's my song?
Speaker 1 (49:25):
I heard you? The first song?
Speaker 5 (49:26):
Yeah, They're like we're thinking of leaving. It's like that
kind of stuff, and like, you know what, like just
don't worry about it, enjoy yourself. You're here to have fun.
And surprisingly like that clicked. It was almost like that
person didn't know they were there to have fun. They're like, oh,
you're right, and they just turned around and started like
having a good time. It's like you're not there to
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control the music, Like you're there to have a good time.
You're literally there to party, Like, don't worry about it,
You're not here to stress.
Speaker 3 (49:53):
And the wild thing is ninety percent of the times
the songs that they're gonna request, we're.
Speaker 4 (49:58):
Gonna we're gonna play.
Speaker 5 (50:00):
Tell you that.
Speaker 2 (50:01):
So just like I think I think my favorite one,
my favorite I'm being sarcastic, like I think it's when
they go up to you and they're like, hey, if
you play this, it would really go off.
Speaker 1 (50:10):
Right now, It's almost like they're calling you out on
your job.
Speaker 2 (50:14):
I'm like, I'm just like get out of here.
Speaker 5 (50:17):
They're almost like I.
Speaker 4 (50:21):
Did I did I share this story already?
Speaker 3 (50:23):
I was DJing at Republic renrock spot and good crowd.
Speaker 4 (50:28):
It's packed.
Speaker 3 (50:29):
There's like these girls in front, and they were requesting, Oh,
I had songs ready. I was prepared, so I had
like songs ready and it was in my head it
was that time to play these certain songs. So the
girl would turn around and say, oh, can you play
Kendrick Lamar or whatever. Squabble up, and it just happened
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to be like the next.
Speaker 1 (50:50):
Song ready, like you were gonna play it anyway.
Speaker 3 (50:53):
Yeah, before she requested it. So I play it and
they're like.
Speaker 1 (50:56):
Yeah, yeah, I'm like, we did that right.
Speaker 5 (51:00):
Wait.
Speaker 3 (51:00):
So then I get another song ready and then I'm
just I'm making up songs right now.
Speaker 4 (51:04):
But they're like, oh, can you play Usher?
Speaker 5 (51:06):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (51:07):
But I had that ready, So in my head, I'm all,
they're thinking I'm playing for this.
Speaker 1 (51:11):
Yeah. Little do they know.
Speaker 3 (51:14):
So they kept requesting the whole night because they thought.
Speaker 1 (51:16):
They probably went home and said that, yo, we turned
that night up.
Speaker 2 (51:21):
Hospitality is just to play what you want, you guys.
Speaker 3 (51:26):
You guys, I mean, here are some positive things that
I'm sure you guys will agree with.
Speaker 4 (51:34):
This just happened.
Speaker 3 (51:35):
This happens often where there's a baller in the club
and they're like, play this song.
Speaker 4 (51:42):
Here's a hundred bucks. Guess what your song's getting played.
Speaker 2 (51:45):
Yeah, money talks.
Speaker 3 (51:47):
I don't care, Yeah, one hundred bucks your song getting
played next?
Speaker 5 (51:50):
Yeah, yeah, money talks. At that point.
Speaker 2 (51:52):
There's also positives though, and requests like I know, they
kind of get like a bad rap for them, but
kind of like you said.
Speaker 1 (51:57):
Earlier, like you could put you on game, Yeah, can.
Speaker 2 (51:59):
Put you on game. Sometimes you do kind of need
help with the room. You know, you're having an off day,
and sometimes like that request like might help you, like
you read a room and just kind of get back
in the zone. And sometimes it works kind of like
you said, where like you're already gonna play these things,
and like it just so happens that that's what they're requesting. Yeah,
and now it seems like, you know, they kind of
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got like a panda back, like yeah, like my requested
kill it now.
Speaker 1 (52:21):
You played my ship, Yeah, but I was.
Speaker 2 (52:22):
Already gonna play.
Speaker 5 (52:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (52:23):
This is the one that if something does annoy me,
which I'm the same with Burns, it takes a while
for something to annoy me. Is when they come up
to you and they say, can you just play something
that can make us dance. I always say, do you
want to turn around and look at the thousands?
Speaker 1 (52:42):
It is because they're not dancing, right.
Speaker 5 (52:43):
That's probably one of the worst comments where it's at
the same time and they're saying that you suck as
a DJ. Why would you think that I want to
listen to anything else that you have to say? After
you just said that to me, like, I feel like
like getting you kicked out of the club.
Speaker 3 (52:57):
Now, yeah, how about this? When have you guys experienced
this one where different genre, like out of left field
genres of music. They yeah, but it's only they know
that song. They'll pull it up on their phone and
you're like, I have no idea that song doesn't even
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exist in my brain in this but it's only for them,
And why do they feel like that's gonna pop off
to these hundreds.
Speaker 6 (53:26):
Of people that I don't think they think about that,
because if they did, they probably shouldn't be doing it. Yeah,
it's just for them, but they don't realize, like, Yo,
that's not what it's about. You don't play for one
people in the club, you know what I'm saying. We
play for the masses.
Speaker 2 (53:36):
Here's the funny part. It's like, so sometimes like that
will happen, Like they'll come and they request a song.
They're like every DJ has their go to line when
they're saying no, mine's just like if I have it,
I'll play it.
Speaker 4 (53:45):
That's mine, right, and so then and then.
Speaker 2 (53:47):
So that's sometimes that's enough to kind of like scare away.
Other times they're just kind of standing there waiting for
you to waiting for me to go through your whole
whole library, and like, unfortunately at that moment, I gotta
play a new song and I got to search through
my library. So, like you know, en Serado, the program
that we use, like the here's a little search bar
and you search for like whatever music. Right, So I
already haven't mind like what I'm playing next, but I
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got this person that's gonna want the song. They're standing
right next to me, and now they're just kind of
hard looking over So, so do you have it?
Speaker 1 (54:16):
You have it?
Speaker 2 (54:16):
I'm just like, no, I don't have it.
Speaker 5 (54:17):
Yeah, definitely don't be that person. Yeah, yeah, don't hang
around the DJ.
Speaker 4 (54:21):
Bude, can't you connect my phone?
Speaker 2 (54:24):
That is another one. Okay, I actually got a question
for Jizzo. So like you've hosted like clubs for like
a real long time. Have you ever been put in
a position where someone comes and asks you for the
request the time to play the messenger.
Speaker 6 (54:37):
All the time, all the time. I do imagine all
the time. But like we have a system where I'll
just be like, just shake your head. Remember I've done
that to burn Suit because like I know, like I
know if you guys are going to play that eventually
or not play it or not even know what the
fuck it is, you know what I'm saying. So when
they come up to me and they ask for some
dumb ship and you can tell they're like waiting me
to pass the message to Magic, and so I'll just
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be like, Magic, just shake your head, and then he'll
do it, and I'll look back at them They're like
all right, cool, and I'd be like, you're you're not
gonna play it.
Speaker 2 (55:03):
That's so appreciated, even like nice filter what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (55:09):
So I already know you guys like zoned in, so
if I can hop out.
Speaker 4 (55:14):
Oh man, any more request story.
Speaker 5 (55:18):
Yeah. Also if like those girls that were requesting, they
were doing it right because they were giving you positive
feedback as far as you playing a song. There's also
those people who like one they don't approach you right,
and then you're like whatever, I'll play the song and
they do no like reaction to it. They don't dance.
Speaker 2 (55:37):
Yeah, the people they yeah, yeah, they're just like they
requested all night you find play it and then you
look at their dumb mass and they're just standing there like, really, bro,
at least like bring up.
Speaker 5 (55:47):
The energy of the room when I play your song.
Speaker 1 (55:50):
And turn up by yourself if you have to, like
you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (55:54):
So there's a way to uh, there's a way to react,
and there's a way to respond request.
Speaker 3 (55:59):
Have I shared this story with you guys where a
guy was doing the phone thing but after he was
requesting the most dumbest songs that like, bro, I'm not
going to play that song. So he started conversating with me.
Speaker 4 (56:12):
Solid requests. You would be like, you suck it. You
said that transition was horrible. Why are you in this bpm?
Speaker 2 (56:18):
Like are you.
Speaker 3 (56:20):
No? I don't know, but I stopped the music and
I was like, bro, you got something.
Speaker 4 (56:24):
That I like.
Speaker 2 (56:24):
I stopped on the mic.
Speaker 3 (56:26):
Yeah, I just said, bro, you want to come up
here and tell me instead of like I said something.
Speaker 2 (56:31):
But honestly, look, I feel like that sometimes like necessary
because like so man, these people, I feel like they
could just get away with that. Like I think, like
a couple of games ago, like I had someone like
the Dance World's Fact, everything was going crazy. I had
this one guy just give me the thumbs down. Oh yeah,
we've gotten that, you know, And I was like, bro,
I was having a good time, right, But like that,
sometimes it's enough to kind of like ruin like the moments.
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You know, so I just got in the mic, and
sometimes you do got to call him out a little bit,
like yo that you know, like somebody get this guy shot.
You know, he's not having a good time. Someone gets
around them.
Speaker 1 (57:03):
You almost did it like in a positive yeah yeah.
Speaker 2 (57:06):
You know, so you gotta kind of flip it on
them because like that's not cool man, Like they you
just kind of like boost.
Speaker 5 (57:11):
Someone, Like you don't do that anywhere else.
Speaker 2 (57:13):
Yeah, you don't do that anywhere else.
Speaker 5 (57:14):
A big thing for me is that as much as
the DJ feeds off the energy from the crowd, like
the crowd deep feeds off the energy from the It's
like a dance right, So It's almost like if you're
going to a club as a person attending and you
want the party to be popping and to be lit
or whatever, come with that energy, like, don't come like
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expected to be entertained. Bring the entertainment, like bring the vibe,
bring like.
Speaker 1 (57:41):
You have fun, you didn't have fun?
Speaker 3 (57:42):
Like yeah, exactly, all right, listen, man, loving this episode,
but let let's do like one last topic. It's what
I've been seeing lately. And I love seeing my team.
I love seeing my friends when we're doing so many gigs.
I love these curate Is that the word curated gigs
where a certain club only plays that certain thing. I
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think that's coming back and getting more popular. Am I
like the nights genres like, so more R and B
nights are happening now. I see brota like djds that
get thrown knights like and packing the house with thousands
of people. So I'm loving these curated where it's this
is what you're gonna get at this party. And we've
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been seeing a lot of that. Can you talk about
like the stuff that's coming in Fresno that we've been seeing.
Speaker 2 (58:31):
Yeah, So I think, like I think it's happening everywhere
I think night life is changing, right, Like there's a shift.
There's a shift, and I think like longer other days
where you could just throw a little black dress party,
you know, I think people want more. I think people
want to feel like, you know, they're going to an
experience and they're going to an event. And I'm starting
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to see it like happened a little bit more. Like
I think like more venues even more, like this new
age of promoters, which happen to be d you know,
like are getting really creative with their parties, you know,
and just adding a little bit more of an experience.
Because at the end of the day, like I think
we're living in an era where like, yes, people do
go out to Barcross, and yes, you know, people do
go out to night clubs and stuff like that, you know,
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but they don't look forward to it as much as
if they were to go to like a festival, right
or some sort of like themed pop up parties. So
it's really exciting to see like some of these venues
kind of taking starting to take that approach.
Speaker 1 (59:25):
Is that a thing that's like happening more often now?
Speaker 3 (59:27):
I've been seeing it a lot in town specifically, it's.
Speaker 2 (59:31):
A lot of like it's a lot of like thinking
out outside the box. You know, Like even like I
was just I was listening to this podcast where like
they were talking about like like there's more like DJs
like doing sets like not even in your your I
guess quote unquote normal rooms, Like they're doing stuff at
like coffee shops or stuff at like bakeries or like
or even like yeah, or even if you go into
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like just like regular bands and stuff. I think like
Blink when they did too did a show out of Denny's.
You know, it's it's kind of thinking outside of the
box that really like attracts these people because there's so
much stuff going on, you can't really rely on like
the simple like hey we got a club, we got
a hip hop night, or we got like a little
black dress party or whatever you want to call it.
Like I think, like you do have to get creative
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with some of these things.
Speaker 1 (01:00:12):
It's a good point.
Speaker 3 (01:00:13):
I mean as a DJ too, it's a good break
because Friday Saturday it's open format.
Speaker 4 (01:00:19):
I'm turning up.
Speaker 3 (01:00:20):
It's the club is almost repeat right yeah yeah yeah,
And then I have my Monday at Lucy's Lounge where
it's strictly R and B slow jams, feel good music,
and it just it's a good break mentally, and also
it gets I get to play my like you know,
things that I want to hear because that specific night,
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you're not there to really make people dance or anything.
It's just you're creating a vibe. And yeah, it's just
such a good break.
Speaker 5 (01:00:50):
There's definitely something special with I think people see it,
but again it's like subliminal for them, but for us
as a DJ, we get it where we have the
opportunity of somebody telling you come and just do your thing,
Like there's something special about that. Like I know we've
said that a lot of times with like the Lacua parties,
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where it's not like if it's hard to explain, but
it's definitely something special where like it's just like a
certain vibe where people could kind of just showcase of
like this is what I like, and the energy there
is just different because it's a lot more pure, like
the DJs are like showcasing in a sense, and I
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think the crowd really feeds off of that where they're like,
oh I can going back to like they it's a dance, right,
the crowd can tell that the DJ is having a
good time, so they're gonna have a good time. And
if they're gonna have a good time, the DJ is
gonna have a good time, and it just like multiplies.
I think that's just like curated parties of like the
DJ going with a certain intent is super special rather
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than like, oh I just gotta play like the hits.
Speaker 3 (01:01:58):
Yeah, man, congrats on all the things you guys are
doing with Lauda. I know the day parties are coming back,
so you guys want to plug like you know where
to follow, you guys where to buy tickets and all that.
Speaker 5 (01:02:09):
Yeah, so follow us at ig La Guda Party. It's
I mean, yeah, it kind of started as like a
speakeasy kind of party, but it's definitely blossomed into this
like super special like day party that it's hard to
find anything like that. I'm not saying that to brag.
I'm saying that like from my perspective as a DJ,
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like being in all these different rooms, my set at
La Gua is different any other room like that I've
ever played, and it's something that it's like I get
to do whatever I genuinely like and share things out.
I'm like Yo, I found this is dope. I'm gonna
play it for you guys, or hey, I made this,
check it out. And the people there, I think somehow
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are on the same page, like they get it. They're
there to have a good time. That's the one place
that I definitely do not even take request And I
don't even get requests, Like people are they know the assignment.
They're like, we're just here to give a good time.
We trust the DJs, no request, all vibes like it's
pretty special.
Speaker 3 (01:03:11):
I mean, what I like about it is this whole
thing came about it's by DJs. It's almost like four
DJ sort of, and you know, you guys are putting
in the work.
Speaker 5 (01:03:22):
Yeah, it's a lot of work.
Speaker 3 (01:03:24):
From marketing, a lot of marketing to the production of.
Speaker 1 (01:03:29):
One Stop Shop.
Speaker 5 (01:03:30):
Yeah, we don't just show up in DJ.
Speaker 4 (01:03:32):
It's like, yeah, that's my marketing. I'm not even booked.
Speaker 5 (01:03:37):
It's a lot of work. But I think like we
do see you know, people enjoying it, and that's just
like priceless, you know, seeing people enjoy something.
Speaker 1 (01:03:45):
That that's the payoff, right, Yeah, Like you put it on.
Speaker 5 (01:03:47):
This work and then you kind of sometimes get discouraged yours, like, man,
is it even worth it? And then at the end
of the day, you're like, wow, these people came and
enjoy the special moment and had a good time and
shared laughs and and we'resing and drinking and having good
time and eating and it's like, Okay, it's worth it.
And then you get people are like, wow, that was
so dope, Like when's the next one. It's like all right,
(01:04:08):
like I think we're onto something, like let's do it
for the people.
Speaker 3 (01:04:11):
Yeah, I'm excited for this next one. Can we I
know it's almost like a secret, but it says can
you guy? You guys want to say the day and
where it's at the low because you know what, you
guys jump to different locations. I'm excited about this next location.
Speaker 2 (01:04:26):
Yeah. So we're doing it April sixth at the Standard.
Speaker 4 (01:04:30):
Yeah and the Outdoors, which they have a beautiful outdoor patty.
Speaker 5 (01:04:35):
From one to six pm, so it just during the day.
That's like the whole thing about it is the daytime, Sunday,
fun day, turn up, good vibe. They have really good
chefs there, so they're they're holding down the menu as
far as food, music, drink, food that you don't normally
get there. It's a little bit more on the lacura side.
Same with the drinks, so it's like special drinks, special food, obviously,
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special music. Music that you wouldn't hear there on the
weekends because it's.
Speaker 6 (01:04:59):
It's this kind of goes back to what you're talking about,
like a themed night, you know what I'm saying something
in this case of daytime.
Speaker 1 (01:05:05):
But yeah, all.
Speaker 3 (01:05:07):
Right, you guys want to plug because you know, podcast
they could listen to it whenever, so we don't know
when listeners listen to this specific episode. But just plug
like your Instagram or where people can find you so
they know where you guys are DJing.
Speaker 2 (01:05:21):
Next. Yeah, I mean, first of all, follow la. You
know you want to be more updated with what we
do is called at luck with a party.
Speaker 1 (01:05:29):
What's the spelling on it, l A C.
Speaker 2 (01:05:32):
You are a party supposed to be the cure, you know,
and I think a lot of people think it's just
like a Latin on league party, but it's just you know,
we're from the Central Valley. You know, like there's a
lot of loud routes here to the Central Valley. Plus
you know, our whole thing about the Sunday was supposed
to be a feel good thing like we wanted to
cure for like any weekend or like you know, if
you're not looking forward to your Monday, like at least
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you have like that one good Sunday, or if you're
just crying yourself from a hangover too. Yeah, yeah, so
that's kind of where could but yeah, follow us at
the party across all socials. Tickets are on cell now,
now go get those quick on event right. Uh yeah,
your social oh my social, Yeah, you can follow me out.
Bro the spelling spelling, nobody spell it. Yeah, everybody gets
(01:06:16):
it wrong. I remember, came in here, she called me Coya.
Came in here, she called me Broth's b B.
Speaker 1 (01:06:27):
That's funny bro t b r O double h T.
Speaker 2 (01:06:31):
There you go.
Speaker 5 (01:06:31):
Mine's official DJ Burns is my handle DJ.
Speaker 4 (01:06:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:06:35):
You guys got a lot of fun gigs coming up.
So man, like I said, not just you guys are
a circle of friends, our our circle of DJ friends.
I just see everyone winning right now, is like ye,
so good to see everyone rocking clubs and it's it's
it's a vibe right now. And I know I always
say that I'm at the tail end of it. But
it's it's being your friends and being inspired seeing you
(01:06:59):
guys that make that why you know, why would I
really want to like leave this right now?
Speaker 5 (01:07:03):
You know?
Speaker 3 (01:07:03):
So it's just don't I always say, like righte it
till the wheels fall off. So I'm still on that ride.
So and it's it's because you guys, the circle of
friends we have and you know, inspire me to like
keep going.
Speaker 5 (01:07:15):
So I think it's like it's a mutual thing. I
think we all inspire each other to do better, Like
we all see each other level up, and it's inspiring,
you know.
Speaker 2 (01:07:22):
And you know, like to add to that, I know,
going soon. But like I think like dj as much
as like sometimes we complain about DJing and like you
know some of like the horror stories we experienced with it,
I think there's also so many positives, you know. I mean, yeah, yeah,
you meet like your friends.
Speaker 1 (01:07:38):
I mean everything got that it's negatives, I mean yeah, yeah, it's.
Speaker 2 (01:07:42):
Just a lot of a lot of the stuff that
like I do now you know, like a lot of
people that I met, I legit, oh it to DJing,
Like if I would have never decided to be a DJ.
Speaker 1 (01:07:51):
Like I mean, that's how we all became friends.
Speaker 2 (01:07:53):
So that was crazy, like some of the stuff that experienced,
like I've never would have like you know, I don't
know what I don't know what I would be doing
right now.
Speaker 3 (01:07:59):
I think these negative experiences. Number one, it's like fun
to share to kind of making fun of it, and
also like, oh, we're not alone. You go through this
ship too, So that's why we kind of covered these.
It is more on the entertainment side of it, and
maybe we should do the next episode where it's like
all the positive things that's come out.
Speaker 5 (01:08:20):
That's gonna be a two hour episode.
Speaker 3 (01:08:23):
Because you're right, there is way more positive, but we're
just like highlighting these like fun stories, just.
Speaker 4 (01:08:29):
Fun horror story.
Speaker 5 (01:08:30):
Yeah, And.
Speaker 3 (01:08:33):
I can one hundred percent guarantee DJ is listening right now,
going like yuh
Speaker 5 (01:08:38):
Yeah,
This could give me fire podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
What up?
Speaker 1 (00:02):
I'm Jizo. That is John Magic and we are back.
We are.
Speaker 3 (00:06):
This is gonna be a fun one. This is gonna
be a fun episode on many levels. We got some
returning guests coming, but not only I don't even want
to call them guests because correct me if I'm wrong.
If if you would put a definition of a circle
of friends, this.
Speaker 4 (00:21):
Work, this is us.
Speaker 1 (00:22):
Yeah, this is a circle of friends.
Speaker 4 (00:24):
We're part of a bigger circle.
Speaker 1 (00:25):
But the core four.
Speaker 5 (00:32):
Yeah, man.
Speaker 4 (00:32):
But DJ Burns and bro Tea is.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
Back of those like boxes where wait, we got those
yeah program.
Speaker 1 (00:43):
We just got a program fired up.
Speaker 4 (00:45):
There's nothing in there right now.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
But there's so many levels where we could go with
this episode because there's a few things that trigger me
right now. This reminds, first of all, just being in
this studio reminds me of back in the days when
we used to DJ and mix live here and we
would talk about this on the past podcast.
Speaker 4 (01:03):
Of our favorite times in.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
Radio is in this studio where we would all just
be together hanging out. Yeah, while somebody's mixing live on
the radio, while you're on the other side on air.
Speaker 5 (01:17):
We're just here chilling it wasn't our own clubhouse.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (01:20):
Yeah, So there's that level.
Speaker 3 (01:23):
Then there's another level for myself personally, I wouldn't be
enjoying and playing golf because of these two. You know,
they are the two friends that.
Speaker 4 (01:34):
That I saw play golf a lot.
Speaker 3 (01:36):
And I've told this story before, how you know, with
my dad passing, it's kind of like the thing that
catapulted me to to kind of learn more. But it's
good to have friends that played and just to hang
out with. And these two were the first that took
me out to my first course. We went to the
valley and played. I had no idea what I was doing.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
Well.
Speaker 6 (01:58):
I remember we had a podcast episode when we were
talking about hobbies and what hobbies you should get into,
and we kind of were, you know, throwing out ideas.
And now fast forward today you got one in golf. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (02:08):
I was saying in one of my in one of
my little videos, I go, is it is it?
Speaker 4 (02:13):
What did I say? Like?
Speaker 3 (02:16):
Where is it toxic that that I enjoy something so
much that I'm not.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
Good at as long as you enjoy it?
Speaker 4 (02:23):
I'm delusion, I said in my delusional.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
It's a very toxic relationship. I hate it more than
I like at sometimes, but it's those moments where I
like it that make me keep coming back. That's a
toxic relationships. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (02:38):
Because out in the course, let's say you do let's
just go nine holes and eight of them suck, yeah,
and you just want to quit playing this damn sport.
Speaker 4 (02:48):
And then there's that one.
Speaker 3 (02:49):
Hole where you actually do well and you're like, I'm
ready for the next.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
That one hole makes me want to go like a
training cap, like just really invest into my golf career. Bad.
Speaker 3 (02:59):
Speaking of speaking of investing, how expensive is this golf thing?
Because I've been buying things off TikTok, off Amazon.
Speaker 5 (03:07):
You could easily get really expensive, especially if you get
picky with like you want the best brands, you want
like the best of the best, And it's like, all right,
slow down, like you're not a professional, Like we're still
doing this for fun. You kind of have to remind
yourself and like just have fun with it with what
you have.
Speaker 6 (03:23):
You know, it isn't that part of the fun though,
it is.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
So here's the thing, right, Like when you're when you're
a kid and you get into hobbies, like you obviously
have like a really like restrictive budget. But you know,
usually golf, like you're kind of getting into it when
you're older for the most part, so you got that
adult money, and so now you just kind of want
to spend on just like whatever pops up or whatever.
Speaker 4 (03:45):
Let me ask you this, so I'll give you an example.
Speaker 3 (03:47):
I've been spending things for teaching purposes, like things that
will make me better. Okay, but what have you guys
been spending a lot of your golf money.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
So there was like a period I slowed down now,
but there was a period of time where like I
was just buying golf sets and like playing with them
for a little bit and then I would keep them.
But then I would sell them though, right, I would
resell them back.
Speaker 4 (04:09):
When you say golf sets, like the whole.
Speaker 2 (04:11):
Thing, bro the whole thing. I was driving out to Vicelia,
I was picking up golf sets, you know, playing with
them for a little bit, then I would sell them
or whatever. Sometimes I make my money back, other times
I wouldn't, and I just kind of keep it going.
But it was fun, like I felt like that was
literally the cure to my game sometimes, but really it
didn't make a difference.
Speaker 5 (04:30):
How about I say, my favorite purchase that made it
feel like official, like Okay, I'm a golfer was when
I bought my golf bag because the first one I got,
like I think bro Tegue gave it to me that
he found that like a wholesale or like a yard
cell or something like that, and it was cool because
I was I was learning. But then I was like, okay,
(04:50):
I'm ready to make that investment. And I bought like
a brand new like out of the bag, like had
that new car, a brand new Nike, and I was like, okay, yeah,
I'm in this for real. And then I was like
okay serious. Yeah. Then I got like my clubs after that,
and I was like okay, like this is this is going,
this is going to you know what.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
You know What's super fun though out of all of this,
like now I've been golfing longer than both of you guys.
It's been fun seeing you guys start and then where
you're at right now because like you guys picked it
up so fast or as for me, like it took
me a while to kind of pick it up and
know what I'm doing. But like sometimes I'll go out
on the course and like I see you guys hit
him like shit, like damn you Guyeah?
Speaker 5 (05:30):
Good?
Speaker 1 (05:31):
Well when you did it, were you kind of just
doing it by yourself?
Speaker 2 (05:34):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (05:34):
What got you into it?
Speaker 5 (05:35):
So?
Speaker 2 (05:36):
I had a friend who just invited me out to
like the range. I had never been there before, Like
like most people like you just the seal like golf
is probably not the sport for you. He went out
to like a range is called Hank Hank swinging out there.
I didn't know that you could just go in there
and get like a bucket of balls for like five
eight bucks, and if you didn't have any clubs, like
they have some loner clubs that you could use there
(05:57):
and just literally practice a super beginner friendly So that's
kind of how I got introduced into it. I let
it go for a little bit. Then during the pandemic,
I got intrigued by it again. I remember hitting up
Burns and I was like, hey, like you want to
go try out this golf course? He was down. There
wasn't nothing to do. It was like the pandemic. I
think like restrictions were like starting to lift up already.
(06:17):
I ended up going to the thrift store try to
make up like a quick set out of whatever I
found out the thrift store. We went out to the
golf course. We've never we have never been to a
golf course. We didn't know etequacy, we didn't know anything
that had going that had to do with doing that
a golf course. So when you go to a golf course,
you can either start playing automatically after you book your thing,
or you could go to like the range right, practice
(06:39):
a little bit warm up, and then you go into
the to the golf course. So obviously, you know, we
don't have any gear, we don't have any balls, we
don't have any of that. We don't know anything about this.
We just brought like our clubs. So we pretty much
purchased some range balls for like five or ten bucks.
We go, we practice. We know, we feel good, like
we're not the best, We're like whatever, you know, let's
get the started. We take that bucket of range balls
(07:01):
with us, we put it in the golf cart. Mind you,
we don't have any golf bags. So we're setting the
clubs literally just right behind our seats and they're just
resting right behind it. Looks, dude, this settup looks super lame. Man.
We look so amateurish out there, and so we're taking
this range, we're taking the range balls, and we're just
hitting them and you know, we suck. So they're going
(07:22):
all over the place and the owner actually comes out.
He's like like pissed off at like me and burns
and he's like, have you guys never been out here?
Do you guys even know what you're doing.
Speaker 3 (07:32):
You're like, no, they're not supposed to take the take
the range balls practice.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
Yeah, we got to.
Speaker 4 (07:38):
Oh, you can't play on the course with those.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
Yeah, for the range, because what happens is you hit
them into this open field in the range, they got
a machine that collects it. You know, they keep recycling
or whatever. But when you take them out to the course,
like you have the risk of like hitting it into
the wild, they lose them. So here like every ball
is like twenty five cents. What are you doing this
and that? And blah blah, Like we were holding people up, dude.
(08:02):
It was a mess. So I reprimanded. We got in
trouble man. So after that, like he was cool, like
you know, like we kind of like figured it out.
We were so slow, we were just letting people pass by.
We're just giving them the signal hey, like you know,
just keep going or whatever. And then after that, like
pandemic was super weird, so like you know, restrictions were
(08:22):
up and down or whatever. And then I just started
like getting back into it. And then eventually, like my
boy Andy Mack, you know, it was a bachelor party,
he wanted to get a little bit more into golf,
so like I already had some experience in it, but
not really so you know him, our other friend Lalo
came out and like we started going out, you know,
and then that's kind of I just kept doing it
(08:44):
like ever since. It's been a couple of years now.
Speaker 3 (08:47):
Yeah, it's I mean, do you guys always do you
also feel like I don't want to call ourselves influencers.
It's sort of cringe for me calling us that, But
I've been getting messages from random people saying, I see
you guys playing, So now I want to where can
I start?
Speaker 4 (09:06):
And it's like, are we influencing people?
Speaker 1 (09:07):
Maybe you're inspiring people?
Speaker 5 (09:09):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (09:09):
Maybe, So I walk like a like I have these
moments where like, you know, I want to like do
like some influencer stuff because I have like the experience
and like building brands or like marketing, but also at
the same time, like this is just a fun thing
for me, and I do not want to mix it too,
because I have that habit of wanting to mix those
(09:30):
both and I don't want to do that. I literally
just want to leave this for like I want to
be able to suck at this, Like I want to
be able to not have that.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
Be your thing, be my own thing.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
And I have the pressure that I have to make
make this into a business.
Speaker 5 (09:40):
I want to disconnect from everything.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
But sometimes sometimes, dude, it's hard to turn off that switch,
you know, Like sometimes I'll take my camera out there,
like I'm recording some stuff, and I'm like, like I
could post this and maybe I could get like maybe
like someone will send me a package, you know, I
keep it up, maybe play like some free games. I
don't know. Sometimes I have to turn that off. But
I I get what you're saying, Like there's people that like,
definitely like I want to golf. I don't know why
(10:03):
they want a golf with me.
Speaker 6 (10:04):
I suck, but you know, yeah, or I mean, it
doesn't necessarily have to mean that you're doing it to
get something out of it. Maybe you're just posting because
you're just showing what you do, you know what I'm saying,
your hobby this what I mean, that's kind of like
when you're doing magic. You're kind of just showing that
there is something I'm getting into. This is like how
I've gotten better. And then it's just documenting, yeah, exactly,
documenting your your progress yea, the progress and in return
(10:26):
it's inspired some people to want to join.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
So if you do it like that, I think that's
like fun. That's more organic, you know, I mean organic
and it's fun, And I think it just really separates
because like for us, like DJing, Like you know, even
though you do enjoy DJing, there's a lot of like
the marketing that goes into Yeah, so.
Speaker 6 (10:42):
That's different, you know what I'm saying. Now you're doing
it because that's where the money's coming from.
Speaker 5 (10:46):
For fun now, Like, yeah, I started doing golf course
reviews just because I naturally like that part of golfing
where you go to a different course and yeah, different
like literally, like the restrooms are different, the golf courses different,
the food is different. Like there's so many like levels
to it that, oh, the quality of this one's not
that good. This one's better that. I was like, I
(11:07):
want to like document this because I want other people
to know what's that spot, like, what's spot like? So
it's more like natural like documenting like this.
Speaker 6 (11:16):
That's something that I've done with like movies. I've always
been like a big movie person and always had an opinion.
I was like, oh, I just start sharing like my
opinion about movies. And once I started doing it, I
was getting not trying to get anything out of it,
but yeah, there's something to it. You know what I'm saying,
You're helping somebody out al wants to set a care package.
Speaker 3 (11:31):
I'm not.
Speaker 4 (11:35):
It's wild how many times I go.
Speaker 3 (11:38):
It's there was a point where I was going every
day to either the range or of course, And what
was that story you were telling me? How you know
before I started this, you suggested it to me. And
what remember I was saying, like I don't want to
I don't want to play golf by myself.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
Yeah, yeah, I suggested you go out and try it
by yourself. I told you like, I think we were
coming out as a group, and I told you, like,
I think you're going to find yourself that you're coming out.
You're gonna come out to the range for yourself, like
do it, like come out or even play a game.
Speaker 4 (12:08):
And I was so against it.
Speaker 3 (12:09):
This is when I was like looking for a hobby
and I was kind of going through it and in
this part of my life. And then yeah, I just
kept saying, like why would I want to go out
by myself where I want to be surrounded by people?
Speaker 4 (12:24):
And yeah, you just kind of.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
I didn't think. It's a different vibe, you know what
I'm saying.
Speaker 6 (12:28):
You probably concentrate more now, So it's like there's a
different side of it. Whereas you go out with the friends,
you're just kind of hanging out. It's more of a
social thing yourself. It's kind of on your skill you're.
Speaker 3 (12:39):
Getting Yeah, you're trying to get better, You're trying to
figure out you know. Yes, So I'm so happy I
found this and and yeah, I don't want to I'm addicted.
I'm hooked.
Speaker 4 (12:49):
I'm definitely hooked.
Speaker 5 (12:50):
So got the bug?
Speaker 4 (12:51):
Yeah, man, and let me wrap it up with this.
Speaker 3 (12:53):
We got to shout out DJ Straws as well, who
golfs as well too, and so.
Speaker 4 (13:00):
Or Burns, bro Tea, myself and Straws.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
We have a.
Speaker 4 (13:05):
Crew now with you know, we have our little chats.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
I just want to put this for the record, is
the best player on the team.
Speaker 4 (13:14):
But so we we have group chat.
Speaker 3 (13:17):
We have a group chat that happening on the text
right and at the top it just said group members.
And I just changed the name to the Fantastic four
f O R E like four yeah, four, And in
my head, I'm all, this is so common. Someone probably
has this name already and I googled it, no one.
Speaker 6 (13:39):
Has, Like you better put us you know what I'm saying, Man,
the Fantastic four.
Speaker 5 (13:45):
Get that handle.
Speaker 6 (13:46):
It was either that for people before we put out
this podcast.
Speaker 4 (13:50):
Now it was either that or the Bogie Boys. But yeah, so.
Speaker 3 (13:58):
But yeah, it's good to find this crew, this group
of friends who DJ and have this love for golf
and we just have this connection and it's it's been
a it's been a good experience and a good.
Speaker 5 (14:11):
It's cool because then we go out there and then
we talk about our gigs and stuff like that too.
Speaker 3 (14:15):
Well, speaking of gigs, I think you know we want
to get into right like yeah, there.
Speaker 5 (14:22):
You go, wellsitions.
Speaker 3 (14:28):
Like I said, there's so many levels layers where we
could go to and I wanted to start with, do
you guys consider yourselves veterans already or are you in
your prime? I think I'm past my prime. I in
my eyes, I see you guys in your prime.
Speaker 2 (14:43):
How do you guys? You see it? Probably gig more
than me, man, I think you're hitting your prime again.
I don't know a lot of people that do that.
Speaker 4 (14:52):
I don't know. I feel like I'm aging out.
Speaker 3 (14:54):
And the reason I say that is because of the
music where people will come up and ask for requests
and I will have no idea what song that is.
But apparently when I got song, when I downloaded and played,
everybody knows the song.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
I think. I think that's kind of unfair though, because
there's so much music like every day, and then like
you know, at least back then, like you would get
your new music like through radio, but now like there's
so many outlets on YouTube, Spotify, Soundclass.
Speaker 1 (15:21):
So many artists.
Speaker 4 (15:22):
So is it to the point where we can't keep up?
Speaker 1 (15:26):
It's exact, especially you got different genres and so much.
Speaker 5 (15:30):
It's also like an algorithm thing too, where the hottest
song in your algorithm is not the same as my
song in my algorithm. But for whatever reason, they both
do crazy numbers. So it's almost like subjective in a
way where it's like, yeah, it's hot to you, but
not to me.
Speaker 3 (15:50):
You know, Yeah, real quick, can you guys answer where
you think you guys are at in your.
Speaker 1 (15:55):
Careers prime, entering, the prime, exit the prime?
Speaker 5 (16:01):
I don't know, because I feel the same with you,
the same thing where it's like I get requests and
I'm like, I have no idea what you're talking about.
So that makes me think like, all right, like maybe
I should go look for another career and start like
aging out. But then, like I was looking at my
calendar and I was like, I'm bo for like a
long time. So it's like I don't know. I kind
(16:23):
of go back and forth with.
Speaker 1 (16:24):
Then, yeah, so what do you just what do you not?
Speaker 2 (16:26):
Like?
Speaker 6 (16:27):
What is the measurement that you're kind of Is it age?
Is it experienced? Is it knowledge? Because I kind of
feel like the way you're putting it for yourself is
more about age because you feel like you're not tapped in.
Speaker 1 (16:39):
Yeah, there's but it could also be experience.
Speaker 3 (16:43):
Well I always said this, this is what I've always
said through my career is once it starts turning into
a job. When it feels like a job. Yeah, that's
when I know that I'm at that stage where.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
Okay, so that's your measuring stick then.
Speaker 3 (16:55):
Yeah, where Because I've said this before years the past
years of DJing, who would be there, all your friends,
all your friends would be there and you got to
have this experience and that would be the energy that
I loved. But now in this stage of my life,
majority of my friends are DJ so everyone has gigs.
(17:16):
So who's there people you don't know? So that's it's
turning into a job for me. Am I at that
point now too, where I'm I'm I'm I'm kind of
enjoying it a little bit more now, but I do
feel like it's I'm getting to that part where I
shouldn't for me, I shouldn't be here anymore. That's just
(17:37):
how I feel for me personally.
Speaker 5 (17:39):
I could definitely relate as far as the sometimes it's
not as fun, because I went through a phase where
I was even telling him like, I think I'm gonna
start like looking for another gig or something because it
was just not fun. But I think maybe I was
too much in my head and it was just a
lot of those slow nights that obviously people just don't
(17:59):
post of some people do, but we get a lot
of slow nights where you're like, man, this is whack,
this is boring, And I think I had to shift
my mindset and now it's like you find a fun
in it in a different way. So for me, it's
like I'm going back to like digging records that are
dope remixes and being able to play them out or
(18:19):
making my own like new spots. I kind of like
have a different perspective to them. But yeah, I think
it almost comes in ways where I'm like, uh, maybe
I'm like doing it too much, and then it's like,
all right, you have to find the fun in it again.
Speaker 6 (18:33):
It's almost like you got to rebrand yourself or you
gotta find something like brinstance that makes it fun, or
do something different to switch something up. Or maybe it's
not going to the clubs so often, and maybe it's
doing events more, maybe it's doing shifting more into like weddings,
or it's just sometimes you just gotta do something different
because I think even in you know, on the radio side,
(18:54):
you just get into a funk sometimes or just feels
repetitious and sometimes I catch myself doing that, and I go, oh,
I need to take a step back.
Speaker 1 (19:01):
I need to rethink things.
Speaker 6 (19:02):
Maybe I need to write down new ideas, maybe I
need to switch things up, And then you can find
that like that passion again.
Speaker 4 (19:08):
I think you just hit it on the head. For
what was going on for my past two years is.
Speaker 1 (19:15):
Well, I think for you, you just had personal shit
that was going on.
Speaker 3 (19:18):
But also there's a joke that people always say about me, like, yo,
I thought you I thought you said you're retiring, but
you just said right now, there has to be a rebrand.
And I think two years ago, when I lost all
that weight and then I got the new Brotea design,
my new logo, it felt like I was just starting again.
So I think that was my rebrand and I started
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enjoying it. But it's been like almost three years now,
and now it's getting I'm kind of going back to like, wait,
i feel like I'm out of touch with what the
kids want these days.
Speaker 4 (19:50):
But that's more of a personal thing.
Speaker 5 (19:52):
It's also like the rooms that you play in too.
That's what I've noticed, where if I play in rooms
a lot that are like that demo of people keep
requesting stuff or keep asking for things that I don't like.
That kind of gets to me on like I don't
really like DJing, But then DJ a room where they're like,
just go in, do your thing, yeah, And I'm like
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playing all these like remixes and you want to do yeah,
like scratching or doing whatever, and I'm like, this is fun.
Speaker 2 (20:19):
It all they mean to cut you off. I think
it also depends like on what type of DJ you are, right,
Like there's DJs that genuinely enjoy like servicing the people,
like that's what they signed up for, Like, you know,
they want to do weddings, like they want to do
these private gigs, like they do not have a passion
for like a specific amount of music, a certain music,
Like they literally just want to please like whoever's there, Right,
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And there's other DJs who like the creative aspect of
it and they have a sound that they like and
they wish they would tour and they would play every
other room. Got your other DJs who just genuinely enjoy
doing bottle service clubs, you know, and playing like the
top forty hits. So I think it just really depends
on naturally what kind of DJ.
Speaker 3 (20:57):
You are you know, what advice would you give, like
someone that that's going through that that's in a fork
in the road, they're trying to figure out their identity.
I mean me, growing up in as a DJ, I
got to experience it all. I would say I'm a
majority in open format DJ because I did the kinsignet
as the weddings growing up, and that trains you to
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be an open format DJ. And that's kind of like
how my career, My career trajectory went high because from
just the experience. But it's so different now with the
younger generation. They could they could easily learn how to
DJ so quick now on YouTube and then pick a
genre they want. So, like, what advice would you give
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like a newcomer that's trying to figure out what direction
do I want to go?
Speaker 5 (21:49):
I would say, try all lanes in djaying and that's
like everything from different rooms, different events, mixes, radio, like everything,
try everything, and whicheverone brings you the most joy, stick
to that one, yeah, and like go ten times one
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hundred times on that one, Like brand yourself as that one,
Like make music to that one, like whatever it is,
like be the best at that one specific lane and
stick to it. Because what you're gonna have the most
fun and it'll be easy to when you do get
in a funk to rebrand yourself within that same lane
instead of like it becoming a job.
Speaker 1 (22:32):
That's a good point, I think.
Speaker 2 (22:33):
So I think you probably have to ask yourself, like
what is it about DJ and that you like? You know,
like what are you looking to get out of it?
You know? Are you looking to make hell a bank roll?
You know? Are you looking to play the biggest stages?
You know? Are you looking just to rock something?
Speaker 6 (22:48):
Is this gonna be your career? Is this just a
side job? Is it just for your hobby?
Speaker 2 (22:52):
I think those are like important questions to try to
ask yourself because I know, like a lot of people
like like for them, like this is literally just a hobby,
you know, and for other people like this is a passion,
like they want to be able to tour, they want
to be able to make their career. Like I said,
like there's other people who want to run the greatest
like wedding business or the greatest private event business. Like
it really just depends on what is your motive behind
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wanting to do this.
Speaker 3 (23:13):
Yeah, I agree with especially what Burne said too, because
We have friends that kind of put all their chips
on on being a wedding slash events uh DJ and
they are bank right because that's they focused on that.
It's almost like you don't see him at the clubs anymore. Yeah,
so I think that's yeah, that's a good advice of
try it all, ye, and then find find something that
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you really enjoyed.
Speaker 4 (23:37):
You know, for us, don't you.
Speaker 3 (23:39):
Say that we were fortunate that we got to do that.
We got to experience so many genres and ye, Like
I said, I did weddings in my days.
Speaker 5 (23:49):
And then like you can dip back into that whatever,
say it's like a wedding. You're like, you know, I
haven't done a wedding in a while. I got the opportunity.
I'm gonna do it because I want to, because it's fun.
You could go back into it, but then come back
into your lane just for fun.
Speaker 6 (24:04):
Sometimes you might need a break to switch things up,
and you know, I mean the club scene can get
kind of tiring seen the same people and it's like,
you know what, I still like DJing, but I want
to be in a different atmosphere.
Speaker 5 (24:13):
Exactly what happens.
Speaker 4 (24:15):
I grew up with mentors. Do you feel like the younger.
Speaker 3 (24:18):
DJs today do you think their mentors are all online
or because sometimes I feel like that's a lost thing.
Speaker 1 (24:27):
The mentors like who they're watching.
Speaker 2 (24:29):
So I think I think, going back to like your
original question before we completely went like left field about
if we were veterans or not, I think like when
I see veterans, I think of like the DJs that
like I saw like growing up, and they're still active.
So I'm just kind of like, man, like those are vets,
and it feels weird to call myself a VET. Mmm,
I'm I don't know if that would be the correct label.
(24:49):
Like I'm sure maybe i'm a VET to like some
of like the younger like people coming up. But I
think I went through like that phase of like learning
like the etequacy and learning the rules of like you know,
what do you do when you come up to a club?
Like how do you open? How do you do? Any
of that stuff. I think I've went through that phase enough.
Or I've cleared dance floors, you know, I've killed dance floors,
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you know, in a positive way, know what to do
when a bottle was coming out, Like I think I've
done it enough to understand, you know, how the whole
program works. Right, So I don't know if you would
consider that a VET.
Speaker 6 (25:21):
But I think I think knowledge is like part of
being a VET. Experience and knowledge.
Speaker 2 (25:27):
Yeah, I think so. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (25:29):
Don't you guys agree to that, because I still believe
in this, and I still the sense of learning never
stops like I'm learning.
Speaker 5 (25:41):
I still feel like I don't know shit.
Speaker 4 (25:44):
I was telling Jizo this this.
Speaker 3 (25:46):
I just did this recently, like a few weeks ago,
where I had a day off and it was a
Friday night, and I told myself, I'm gonna visit three
homies that's DJ at different clubs and I just want
to listen. I want to listen to what the crowd
reacts to what music you guys are playing. And that's
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I don't know if that's still happening, because when I
DJ clubs, no DJ comes up to me like, hey,
I'm I'm just young DJ trying to So I don't know.
Speaker 4 (26:17):
I don't know if that happens. Maybe they're there and
I just don't know.
Speaker 3 (26:20):
But that's something that I would suggest people do, is
go to different clubs and listen to different DJs.
Speaker 4 (26:27):
That that are established already.
Speaker 2 (26:29):
You know what. To that point, like, I feel like
that's such a lost art. I do see like DJs
every once in a while like come out and do that,
and I think me and Burns like I have done
it a couple of times. We should probably do a
little bit more than we do. But I think, like
that's such a lost art because I I one thing
that I've seen is like a lot of like entitled
like with a lot of people they want to play
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certain rooms, but they've never even been to the room
and they don't know what to play when they get there, right,
but yet you know, they're like hey, like you know
I should be here, like I'm good enough, like let
me get a shot, let me open, let me do this.
But it's like, bro, like you've never even been to
this room, Like how do you even know like what
to expect.
Speaker 4 (27:12):
Yeah, you you got a network with the club owners,
the managers, promoter, and the DJs that are out there.
Speaker 2 (27:18):
Yeah, but you got to understand the environment you're walking
into it because you got to understand like it's not
the U Show, Like this is a business, you know,
and if you go in there and like you know
you're having the headlining set of your life, you know,
but like it's just not the it's not the right
vibe for the room, Like you're hurting their cells.
Speaker 6 (27:35):
Speaking of which, if, if, how you feel about being
a headliner and the DJ before you burns you?
Speaker 1 (27:45):
That's not because I know this is.
Speaker 6 (27:46):
Something that a lot of DJs hate, especially being a headliner,
that you know, the person before you is playing all
the hits and it's like not even eleven yet, and
you're like, yo, you're gonna leave me something.
Speaker 1 (27:58):
How do you feel about that?
Speaker 3 (27:59):
First of foremost, in case there's like new listeners or
people that are not DJs, one of you define what
burning the DJ.
Speaker 2 (28:06):
Is, burning the DJ is there are Unfortunately today, like
there's so much music out that's very hard to decide
what is hot. You would think is it, but but
there's always that group of tracks that the abvious that
would hit the hottest when it's like midnight or one thirty, right,
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our prime our clubs here closed, Like I won thirty
one forty five, so our prime time is like midnight
thirty forty five. Yeah, So like those are the prime
those you're gonna get the most reaction when you throw
those songs in right. It does not make sense, And
I don't know why people do this to drop these
songs at eleven, ten forty five, ten thirty when there
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is no one there.
Speaker 3 (28:50):
Yeah, so I've brought this up in the past episodes before,
maybe ten years ago. I think all DJ's felt some
sort of a way.
Speaker 1 (28:58):
Oh man, ten years ago, fifteen.
Speaker 4 (29:00):
Years ago, you would get mad. Today.
Speaker 3 (29:03):
I don't let it bother me. Maybe it's a personal
thing where I don't let it bother me. But it
makes me think, like where, like our new DJs, where
are they learning etiquette? Where are they learning the ethics
of being an opener?
Speaker 5 (29:19):
I don't think you can learn that anywhere. You have
to experience it. Like it's not like you can google it.
It's not like it's not on Instagram, it's not on TikTok.
Speaker 6 (29:28):
Or maybe it gets passed down from DJs and it
goes back to your point about mentors.
Speaker 2 (29:32):
Yeah, nothing hits harder than getting like kind of like
what's the word, like I guess put in your place
or kind of like shuck like you know, or like
you'r DJing with like a vet and like you fuck
up something and they're like what are you doing, like
you're messing up? Like I don't think there's that anymore
at least like like maybe.
Speaker 5 (29:49):
That's almost like they let them train wreck, Like yeah,
I ain't saying nothing, you know, And I think it
just kind of stems from like nobody wants to be
the bad guy.
Speaker 2 (29:59):
Yeah no, yeah, but it's definitely needed sometimes because like
at least here, at least here in Fresdent, like if
you go out to a different market, like you might
run into that situation or someone's gonna check you, like
if you're not you're not on your stuff.
Speaker 3 (30:11):
But I piggybacking on that and what we're all talking
about with mentors, Yeah, I think that's what the younger
generation needs because if I don't know you, I'm not
gonna do it. I'm not gonna like you said, I'm
not gonna be the bad guy. And like yeah, but
what if they had a friend that said, no, yes, bro,
don't play.
Speaker 6 (30:30):
These songs, because if you think about it, like, how
would you know, right, if you're an up and coming
DJ and you're on like let's say at ten, of
course you're gonna be like, wellhit, I'm gonna pay all
the hot shit, you don't know.
Speaker 2 (30:38):
No better, right, So it's like you can't even really
get mad at them too, But at the same time,
like nobody wants to be the bad guy, So.
Speaker 5 (30:45):
Yeah, I was. You have to remember your place, right
unless you're booked for your talent and they're like we
want you to showcase at a festival or whatever, they're
setting the stage up for you. That's totally a different experience.
But ninety five percent of the time at least for
sure for Fresno, you got to remember the bigger picture,
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like why are you DJing. You're there to provide an
experience for people at a club, So you're there to
provide a service, And what's the best opportunity of the
best experience for people at a club. It's you get
the prime songs at the prime time. Like it's not
about you, it's not about well, I want to show
that I'm a good DJ. Well, if you want to
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show you're a good DJ, do what's best for the
venue at the end of the day, because one, they're
giving you the check and they're going to book you again.
But then it's also about like the people, like you
want the people to have a good time and nobody
wants to hear the same song two or three times,
especially when there's so many good music that why would
you play the same thing twice?
Speaker 2 (31:51):
Yeah, And I think also too, like a lot of
people like come into like these rooms like looking almost
to kind of prove something right, like, oh, like I
do belong here, let me go ham and let me
show you like what I can. There's a little bit ego,
and I don't think it's I don't think it's in
a bad way. I just think like they're thinking, like
I got this shot, Like this is my shot. I
gotta go in, you know, and like again, like there's
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so much experience and there's so much etequacy that kind
of goes like the whole Like it's literally not about
the headliner at least in he's like open format clubs,
It's not about the headliner. It's more about how does
the business work like cohesively, Like when you go to
like an d M or a rave it's it's kind
of a different ball game, you know, Like it depends
on who your headliner is. But for the most part,
every DJ book there is book there to showcase, you know,
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and if they want to go Ham, when there's like
two or three people in there, like you know, that's
the thing that's their brand. You know, they're they're kind
of going in there as an artist, you know. But
if you're kind of doing like the open format, you know,
bottle service clubs, like it's you got to look at it.
It's it's a business. And you know every everything works together,
from like the bottle service girls to the bartenders.
Speaker 1 (32:52):
You know, it's almost like a formula, right, It's a formula.
It's like it's different.
Speaker 2 (32:57):
Yeah, And there's always that argument, and I've been seeing
to kind of pop up like, well, you know, the
veteran DJ or the the headliner DJ. Should be able
to play, shouldn't need, shouldn't need the hit, should be
able to play, and we will.
Speaker 4 (33:11):
It's true. It is a true thing.
Speaker 1 (33:13):
Yeah, But again it's it's more it's principle.
Speaker 3 (33:17):
You would hope the individual would understand because I've opened
many a clubs and I still do to this day.
To me, it's more a little bit more fun because
you know, you challenge yourself by how do I rock
this crowd without playing the hits? And there's so like
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you just said, there's so many songs that it's there's
so many songs to choose frums that that's not a primetime.
Speaker 2 (33:44):
The way I see it is like I got to
play these top forty, these bangers we would call them
or whatever, every single time for sure because people enjoy them.
I enjoy opening set a lot more because I get
to tap bits of stuff that I would different I
can't get away with at like risk, like scaring the
dance floor, you know, but right here, like like early,
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you know you're warming it up. You could throw, You
could get a little bit more experimental with some stuff.
Speaker 5 (34:08):
You could be more selfish as a DJ as far
as like hey check this out. This is what I like, yes,
rather than like, well I'm gonna play.
Speaker 1 (34:15):
Maybe a good time to test things, you know what
I mean.
Speaker 2 (34:17):
Yeah, So I think like that is like super slept
on it. But I think, like you know, if you've
never been, if you never played these rooms, like I
think the approach is always like a little bit like
I'm going to drop like a twelve thirty set at
like ten thirty.
Speaker 4 (34:29):
Man, Like yeah, I mean you said it.
Speaker 3 (34:32):
Where when I go into it, I don't let burning
bother me because even if I replay all the songs
that the opener played. I know my way is different.
Speaker 5 (34:45):
Y yeah, yeah, get the different And.
Speaker 3 (34:47):
Let me ask you guys this because I I have
this thought that the whole burning thing playing songs twice
in the club.
Speaker 4 (34:57):
I think it's just.
Speaker 2 (34:58):
A DJ thing.
Speaker 4 (34:59):
No, for sure, I don't think people crowdcare.
Speaker 2 (35:02):
And for what it's worth, like a lot of this
conversation that we're having, like the people do not care, right,
but there is, but there's a science behind it that
they are not aware of.
Speaker 5 (35:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (35:13):
Yeah, it's just like they don't even realize that there's
like a reason why things are played it the way
they are.
Speaker 5 (35:18):
Care but if all of this wasn't in place, they
would know that something's off. Like it's almost like subliminally,
like there's like.
Speaker 1 (35:30):
Consciously they don't get it.
Speaker 5 (35:31):
It's like unconsciously like it should be this way, but
they don't know.
Speaker 6 (35:35):
Yeah, it's well, hints why they asked for the hottest
song early, and it's just like, well, not yet, but
they don't know why, but they will feel why, you
know what I mean.
Speaker 5 (35:45):
It's like if you were to hear if you were
to have like a regular person listen to a DJ
that's train wrecking. They would be like, something sounds off,
but we don't know what it is. And then you
show them like a DJ with like a really good
one it sounded nicer, like they can't explain it to you, BOBX.
We could be like, well, you know, the technical aspects
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of like beat matching and all this kind of stuff.
Some of the same concept as far as like song selection.
Speaker 2 (36:13):
I guess, I guess think about it like waking up
in the morning, Like you know, you want to wake
up nice and easy. You know, you get your coffee,
you know, your newspaper or whatever it is, that you're
doing it right instead of just.
Speaker 1 (36:23):
Starting progression, instead of just starting off.
Speaker 2 (36:26):
With like, oh my god, man, you don't run out
the door in your pajamas changed, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (36:35):
With that being said, a few maybe a month ago,
we all had like a DJ meeting and got to
meet like some new DJs. And again, just because I'm
I'm on the other side of this, the aging out
sort of thing, it's so cool to see these new faces.
So they're out there, they're they're new, and I'm I'm
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hoping that they're listening to this and taking some of
this vice of you know, who are you guys surrounding
yourselves with you know, do you guys have that that
mentor that will tell you if you're doing it wrong
or doing it right? And just just because that's how
I was taught, you know, I had my mentors.
Speaker 2 (37:15):
I think like I think, like a lot of people
worries is like how can I come back to this room?
You know, how how can I get booked back? Right?
And I think that's where like a lot of like,
especially if you're starting out, like the excitement of getting
booked is like it's really there. I would say, man, like,
as long as like we're all DJs, we all mess up,
we all have like shitty nights, you know, I don't
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think like none of us here are super harsh on
each other about that. But I think like as long
as you come in there, you know, you're a cool person,
Like you know, you talk to the headliner, you get
your stuff out of the way quickly, like you know,
you don't burn them, You do all the stuff that
you know could be advacy or even if you ask questions,
I feel like that would open the door for you
more than coming in there and just hardcore killing is
(37:56):
set at like ten thirty, right and then like bouncing
or whatever case maybe you know, I think just being
more of like a I guess we always say it, right,
like don't be a dick.
Speaker 5 (38:04):
Right, don't be a dick.
Speaker 2 (38:05):
Yeah, you just go in there and you know, like
just genuinely like show like interest, right, don't just show
up for your set and then bounce, you know, like
stay in there and like get to know and get
and learn. Don't just assume like you just know it all.
Because like even though like I've been doing this for
templus years, so it burns like we're still learning every
single day, you know, like there's still so much more
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to this that you know, we're we're gonna learn and
we're gonna fail at you know. So I think like
for all the new DJs listening out there, you know,
if you've never played at a club before, like be
afraid to ask these questions. You know, like yeah, like
you may run into a couple of DJs like you know,
our dicks and like don't want to help you out,
but you there are a lot of good DJs out
here that like are willing to you know, shoot your game.
Speaker 5 (38:46):
Yeah, yeah, you definitely have to be teachable, and you
got to be coachable and just be a good person.
It's like any other business, Like your brand is like
your person.
Speaker 1 (38:55):
Right, So you can always get better.
Speaker 5 (38:57):
Yeah, you can always get better. And if you're a
cool person, you're gonna get a lot further than if
you think you know you're the ship. And it's like, hey,
you have to have confidence as well. But at the
end of the day, you just got to be a
cool person and get along with everybody.
Speaker 3 (39:10):
Yeah, is the Are the veterans gonna remember you as
a dick?
Speaker 5 (39:13):
Or is like as a cry exactly?
Speaker 3 (39:16):
Let's move to this next subject in DJing. You know
we're talking about music. Uh, the so many that you
could choose from. But I want to know what's what's
working for you guys. What's how are you guys getting
your new music? And I'll give you an example for me.
I when people come up for request, it doesn't bother me, like, yeah,
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request these songs?
Speaker 4 (39:39):
Yeah, because number one, it gives me. It educates me.
Speaker 3 (39:43):
In case I don't know about it because I have
I'll take out my phone and I'll tell them. I'm
I always tell if if I don't have it, I'll
tell them I don't have it, but I'm gonna download
it the minute I get home, and I'm gonna listen to.
Speaker 5 (39:56):
It and some homework of the times.
Speaker 3 (39:58):
These requests that I've never heard of before work at
the clubs and and that's what gets me through my
gigs is these requests.
Speaker 5 (40:07):
What it's like a cheat sheet. It's like we're supposed
to read the room, and if the room is telling
you what they want to hear, then it's kind of
like a cheat sheet, right, Like obviously, like we can
get into requests and stuff, but that's like a whole
other topic. Like there's a way to request.
Speaker 4 (40:20):
Yeah, we'll get into that next time.
Speaker 5 (40:22):
Yeah, there's definitely a way to request. But we do
want to know what people want to hear. That's literally
our job. It's like how can we get the vibe
up to the room, And it's like, yeah, I want
to know what you want to hear. Obviously there's a
way to approach me and tell me. But as far
as I getting music.
Speaker 4 (40:40):
Yeah, how are you guys?
Speaker 3 (40:41):
How are you guys learning about the new stuff or
the TikTok generation is bringing back the older stuff that's
working today? Yeah, yeah, so like so that's another tool
that I use.
Speaker 4 (40:54):
TikTok. Yeah, how about you guys, what if I's using.
Speaker 5 (40:57):
Social media, I'm lucky enough to be out and I'm
with another DJ and they're playing whatever they're playing, like oh,
I forgot about that song, let me make a note
of it, or like oh that song works too. And
for me, I'm big on like modern day crate digging.
Right back in the days, it was like going to
the record store and digging the greats. For me, what
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that means now is like going into a rabbit hole
of like band camp, SoundCloud, following DJs and like listening
to what they post, so like, hey, I made this,
check it out, all right, let me listen to that. Okay,
Then I'll go into their SoundCloud. What else do you have?
And I'm like spending hours, bro, And it's like, oh, dang,
I gotta go do something else. Like that's my way
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of kind of making my sets different. It might be
you know, a Kendrick song that's popular, but I found
it in a different way that when I play people
be like whoa, what the hell? Like that's way different.
It's like why did work to find this?
Speaker 1 (41:58):
You know?
Speaker 3 (41:58):
Nope, because for me, I don't. For me, I don't
have time to do that in my life. I don't either,
but try to That's yeah, that's.
Speaker 2 (42:06):
Dope, bro t. Shoot, there are a couple of ways. So,
like I think we talked, we touched on it a
little bit earlier. Like there's so much music out that,
like it's hard to gauge like what is like what
what's what's hot like right now? You know whatever, even
though there's a there's a certain amount of records that
obviously do really good, like the Kendrick Lamars. But I'm
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gonna shoot some game. There's this podcast that I listen to.
It's called the Earbutz Podcast. Yeah, all they do is
talk about music that works the clubs. So sometimes you know,
like you gotta drop the ego and just like you know, fuck,
like I don't know everything, So I'm gonna listen to
this and I'm gonna see like what works and what
doesn't work. Also too, like you could use like your Spotify's,
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your Apple music, like they have charts, like they have
stuff that works in the Bay Area, they have stuff
that works in LA which more than likely will probably
work in Fresnow. So sometimes you gotta get a little
proactive with the tools.
Speaker 6 (42:59):
They That's another thing too, if you're like a traveling DJ,
is stuff's very regional too. That may work on the
West Coast, but it may not work down south. So
that's like a whole other conversation to that point.
Speaker 2 (43:09):
Like that's where you kind of have to tap in
with like your DJ homemie, your research, like, yo, what's
working here? You know, Like I think, don't be afraid
to like ask those questions. It doesn't make you, I
don't think. I don't think it makes you like a
sucker DJ, not at all. I think it just it
makes you smart, right, And sometimes you got to be
able to utilize like those things and do your homework.
Speaker 3 (43:28):
So the two things I'll mentioned about this particular subject
we're talking about. Number one, I said it earlier. We're
always learning. Number two is the story that you know,
you would hope people will learn from their mistakes. And
this was years ago when I was touring. Uh, I
was a touring DJ, and I was, you know, I
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was in my ego area, Like, yeah, I'm dope in California,
so I get to go to Texas.
Speaker 4 (43:54):
So I did a gig in Texas.
Speaker 3 (43:57):
And this was during like the chopping screwed era, we
didn't play a lot of that here in Fresno in California,
so I went into it like wait till they hear
my way of DJ California West coastyle.
Speaker 4 (44:11):
When I tell you I cleared the dance board never
was like.
Speaker 5 (44:16):
Yeah man.
Speaker 3 (44:16):
And from that moment on, like it really made you
learn to research where you're gonna dj. I'm even I'm
even doing that this weekend where you know, I'm DJing
new spot and I was asking birds like yo, wait,
I gotta play more house, like you know, so.
Speaker 5 (44:33):
Like it's a new room, what do I play?
Speaker 3 (44:36):
So another advice that I started recently doing in the
past five ten years is if I'm wrong, it used
to be shunned upon where you put a set together,
But I'm not necessarily putting a set together. I'm just
preparing a folder of these songs I want to play
at this club. So it's not necessarily the order I'm.
Speaker 5 (44:56):
Not playing or I'm big on that.
Speaker 4 (44:59):
So I would never big on that until like the
past five I.
Speaker 1 (45:02):
Would definitely red was that like an ego thing?
Speaker 4 (45:04):
Yeah, because I'm like I know what to.
Speaker 6 (45:05):
Do, like everything, nothing wrong to being prepared, like I
even like on the radio side, like I write down
my talk, but I don't know, I don't like this.
Speaker 1 (45:16):
Ain't nothing wrong with that.
Speaker 2 (45:17):
I don't know if it's like I could be wrong, right,
but I don't know if it's like the hip hop
and DJing that is like very like probably it's very raw, man,
like I got this, like you know, I don't.
Speaker 1 (45:28):
It's on the fly. On the fly, yeah, freestyle off
the top of.
Speaker 2 (45:32):
The that's kind of like the core of it. But
I think as like, you know, we get older and
like you know, we progress and things change obviously, like shoot,
like it's kind of cool to kind of get prepared
and read freak out.
Speaker 5 (45:44):
Like to be organized is so like un like it's ranger. Yeah,
there's been so many times where they're like in the moment,
oh do this or hit this or play this sound.
And because I was organized, I was able to get
there quick. It made me look like a better DJ
rather than if I was like, no, I know what
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I'm doing and then like just get a curb loot
and or oh well let me look for that or wait,
what was the name of that. It's like you have
to be ready and organic.
Speaker 6 (46:12):
To me, being organized and prepared will never be uncool. Yeah,
it's cool to be organized and prepared exactly. Don't get
it twisted and clean.
Speaker 4 (46:20):
Yeah, agree with that.
Speaker 3 (46:24):
Organized, prepare sets and yeah, because you're performing so and
we're lucky enough to have that skill of if there's
a moment where you kind of need to go off
off your preparation because you just thought of something, we
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have that skill and then guess what after that you
can go back and yeah, so definitely prepared. Okay, let's
let I mean you brought it up the whole request
when when we get requests at the club, requests love hate, Well,
we had we had straws in a couple of episodes
ago and.
Speaker 1 (47:04):
Passion.
Speaker 2 (47:05):
I don't think a lot of genuinely.
Speaker 3 (47:07):
So we'll go we'll go into it, we'll dive into it.
But again, I think Burne said it right. There's the
right way, there's the wrong way. Yeah, sometimes you just
come at us wrong.
Speaker 6 (47:16):
That stuff out of pocket, right, Yeah, that's what it is.
Showing the phone on your forehead.
Speaker 3 (47:21):
The phone one is wild to me. They're showing the
phone one.
Speaker 2 (47:25):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (47:26):
That's a generational thing.
Speaker 4 (47:27):
I'm on the fence on that one.
Speaker 2 (47:28):
I haven't gotten that one as much. I recently started
doing these like Bad Bunny reggaeton parties. That's probably the
place I've seen it the most.
Speaker 3 (47:36):
So like if we wait, so it's a bad Bunny
party and it was all play.
Speaker 2 (47:41):
It's like it's like bad Bunny and like other like
reggaeton stuff, right, and so like sometimes like they're pretty
open to it, but other times, like they just want
to hear like bad Bunny, so they'll put the phone
like you'll play maybe like one two songs that are
Bad Bunny, but the phone like play bad Bunny or whatever.
I haven't seen it much in like other clothes, but
like I have seen it.
Speaker 1 (47:59):
Though you just act like you don't see it or
do you acknowledge it?
Speaker 2 (48:02):
Sometimes I both depends on where they got, like where
they got me, like you know, if it's like if it.
Speaker 1 (48:08):
Depends on if she's hot or not, Like I.
Speaker 2 (48:16):
Think it depends on like if they're cool, right, So
like if they put it up one time, like you know,
they drop it down and they leave me alone, like
you know, I'll acknowledge and I'll play it. But if
they're like they walk up to like the front of
the stage and putting their phone up like we're.
Speaker 1 (48:28):
Not even saying anything.
Speaker 5 (48:29):
Tell me, yeah, simple human manners, like you wouldn't go
up to anybody else and disturb them or be rude
or like, it's just simple. It's going back to being
don't be a dick, like to be a cool person
like you have. It's your approach to if you go
up to someone, excuse me, I know you're busy, but hey,
if you get a chance, can you do this? That's
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all that's good. I want to throw some money in there.
It's even better, you know what I mean. But there's
people I think what gets to me is the entitled
of the rudess. Yeah, like play this song. It's not hey,
you get a chance, or hey can you it's like
play this song. It's like, motherfuck, I'm not a juke box. Yeah,
And it's like more than likely I'm gonna play that
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song or if I'm not gonna play it, like I'm
not gonna play it. Have fun. And I've told people
that before too, where it's like it's pissed me off.
Sometimes it's hard to piss me off. It's like, well
they kept coming back, Hey, can you play it? Here's
where's my song?
Speaker 1 (49:25):
I heard you? The first song?
Speaker 5 (49:26):
Yeah, They're like we're thinking of leaving. It's like that
kind of stuff, and like, you know what, like just
don't worry about it, enjoy yourself. You're here to have fun.
And surprisingly like that clicked. It was almost like that
person didn't know they were there to have fun. They're like, oh,
you're right, and they just turned around and started like
having a good time. It's like you're not there to
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control the music, Like you're there to have a good time.
You're literally there to party, Like, don't worry about it,
You're not here to stress.
Speaker 3 (49:53):
And the wild thing is ninety percent of the times
the songs that they're gonna request, we're.
Speaker 4 (49:58):
Gonna we're gonna play.
Speaker 5 (50:00):
Tell you that.
Speaker 2 (50:01):
So just like I think I think my favorite one,
my favorite I'm being sarcastic, like I think it's when
they go up to you and they're like, hey, if
you play this, it would really go off.
Speaker 1 (50:10):
Right now, It's almost like they're calling you out on
your job.
Speaker 2 (50:14):
I'm like, I'm just like get out of here.
Speaker 5 (50:17):
They're almost like I.
Speaker 4 (50:21):
Did I did I share this story already?
Speaker 3 (50:23):
I was DJing at Republic renrock spot and good crowd.
Speaker 4 (50:28):
It's packed.
Speaker 3 (50:29):
There's like these girls in front, and they were requesting, Oh,
I had songs ready. I was prepared, so I had
like songs ready and it was in my head it
was that time to play these certain songs. So the
girl would turn around and say, oh, can you play
Kendrick Lamar or whatever. Squabble up, and it just happened
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to be like the next.
Speaker 1 (50:50):
Song ready, like you were gonna play it anyway.
Speaker 3 (50:53):
Yeah, before she requested it. So I play it and
they're like.
Speaker 1 (50:56):
Yeah, yeah, I'm like, we did that right.
Speaker 5 (51:00):
Wait.
Speaker 3 (51:00):
So then I get another song ready and then I'm
just I'm making up songs right now.
Speaker 4 (51:04):
But they're like, oh, can you play Usher?
Speaker 5 (51:06):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (51:07):
But I had that ready, So in my head, I'm all,
they're thinking I'm playing for this.
Speaker 1 (51:11):
Yeah. Little do they know.
Speaker 3 (51:14):
So they kept requesting the whole night because they thought.
Speaker 1 (51:16):
They probably went home and said that, yo, we turned
that night up.
Speaker 2 (51:21):
Hospitality is just to play what you want, you guys.
Speaker 3 (51:26):
You guys, I mean, here are some positive things that
I'm sure you guys will agree with.
Speaker 4 (51:34):
This just happened.
Speaker 3 (51:35):
This happens often where there's a baller in the club
and they're like, play this song.
Speaker 4 (51:42):
Here's a hundred bucks. Guess what your song's getting played.
Speaker 2 (51:45):
Yeah, money talks.
Speaker 3 (51:47):
I don't care, Yeah, one hundred bucks your song getting
played next?
Speaker 5 (51:50):
Yeah, yeah, money talks. At that point.
Speaker 2 (51:52):
There's also positives though, and requests like I know, they
kind of get like a bad rap for them, but
kind of like you said.
Speaker 1 (51:57):
Earlier, like you could put you on game, Yeah, can.
Speaker 2 (51:59):
Put you on game. Sometimes you do kind of need
help with the room. You know, you're having an off day,
and sometimes like that request like might help you, like
you read a room and just kind of get back
in the zone. And sometimes it works kind of like
you said, where like you're already gonna play these things,
and like it just so happens that that's what they're requesting. Yeah,
and now it seems like, you know, they kind of
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got like a panda back, like yeah, like my requested
kill it now.
Speaker 1 (52:21):
You played my ship, Yeah, but I was.
Speaker 2 (52:22):
Already gonna play.
Speaker 5 (52:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (52:23):
This is the one that if something does annoy me,
which I'm the same with Burns, it takes a while
for something to annoy me. Is when they come up
to you and they say, can you just play something
that can make us dance. I always say, do you
want to turn around and look at the thousands?
Speaker 1 (52:42):
It is because they're not dancing, right.
Speaker 5 (52:43):
That's probably one of the worst comments where it's at
the same time and they're saying that you suck as
a DJ. Why would you think that I want to
listen to anything else that you have to say? After
you just said that to me, like, I feel like
like getting you kicked out of the club.
Speaker 3 (52:57):
Now, yeah, how about this? When have you guys experienced
this one where different genre, like out of left field
genres of music. They yeah, but it's only they know
that song. They'll pull it up on their phone and
you're like, I have no idea that song doesn't even
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exist in my brain in this but it's only for them,
And why do they feel like that's gonna pop off
to these hundreds.
Speaker 6 (53:26):
Of people that I don't think they think about that,
because if they did, they probably shouldn't be doing it. Yeah,
it's just for them, but they don't realize, like, Yo,
that's not what it's about. You don't play for one
people in the club, you know what I'm saying. We
play for the masses.
Speaker 2 (53:36):
Here's the funny part. It's like, so sometimes like that
will happen, Like they'll come and they request a song.
They're like every DJ has their go to line when
they're saying no, mine's just like if I have it,
I'll play it.
Speaker 4 (53:45):
That's mine, right, and so then and then.
Speaker 2 (53:47):
So that's sometimes that's enough to kind of like scare away.
Other times they're just kind of standing there waiting for
you to waiting for me to go through your whole
whole library, and like, unfortunately at that moment, I gotta
play a new song and I got to search through
my library. So, like you know, en Serado, the program
that we use, like the here's a little search bar
and you search for like whatever music. Right, So I
already haven't mind like what I'm playing next, but I
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got this person that's gonna want the song. They're standing
right next to me, and now they're just kind of
hard looking over So, so do you have it?
Speaker 1 (54:16):
You have it?
Speaker 2 (54:16):
I'm just like, no, I don't have it.
Speaker 5 (54:17):
Yeah, definitely don't be that person. Yeah, yeah, don't hang
around the DJ.
Speaker 4 (54:21):
Bude, can't you connect my phone?
Speaker 2 (54:24):
That is another one. Okay, I actually got a question
for Jizzo. So like you've hosted like clubs for like
a real long time. Have you ever been put in
a position where someone comes and asks you for the
request the time to play the messenger.
Speaker 6 (54:37):
All the time, all the time. I do imagine all
the time. But like we have a system where I'll
just be like, just shake your head. Remember I've done
that to burn Suit because like I know, like I
know if you guys are going to play that eventually
or not play it or not even know what the
fuck it is, you know what I'm saying. So when
they come up to me and they ask for some
dumb ship and you can tell they're like waiting me
to pass the message to Magic, and so I'll just
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be like, Magic, just shake your head, and then he'll
do it, and I'll look back at them They're like
all right, cool, and I'd be like, you're you're not
gonna play it.
Speaker 2 (55:03):
That's so appreciated, even like nice filter what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (55:09):
So I already know you guys like zoned in, so
if I can hop out.
Speaker 4 (55:14):
Oh man, any more request story.
Speaker 5 (55:18):
Yeah. Also if like those girls that were requesting, they
were doing it right because they were giving you positive
feedback as far as you playing a song. There's also
those people who like one they don't approach you right,
and then you're like whatever, I'll play the song and
they do no like reaction to it. They don't dance.
Speaker 2 (55:37):
Yeah, the people they yeah, yeah, they're just like they
requested all night you find play it and then you
look at their dumb mass and they're just standing there like, really, bro,
at least like bring up.
Speaker 5 (55:47):
The energy of the room when I play your song.
Speaker 1 (55:50):
And turn up by yourself if you have to, like
you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (55:54):
So there's a way to uh, there's a way to react,
and there's a way to respond request.
Speaker 3 (55:59):
Have I shared this story with you guys where a
guy was doing the phone thing but after he was
requesting the most dumbest songs that like, bro, I'm not
going to play that song. So he started conversating with me.
Speaker 4 (56:12):
Solid requests. You would be like, you suck it. You
said that transition was horrible. Why are you in this bpm?
Speaker 2 (56:18):
Like are you.
Speaker 3 (56:20):
No? I don't know, but I stopped the music and
I was like, bro, you got something.
Speaker 4 (56:24):
That I like.
Speaker 2 (56:24):
I stopped on the mic.
Speaker 3 (56:26):
Yeah, I just said, bro, you want to come up
here and tell me instead of like I said something.
Speaker 2 (56:31):
But honestly, look, I feel like that sometimes like necessary
because like so man, these people, I feel like they
could just get away with that. Like I think, like
a couple of games ago, like I had someone like
the Dance World's Fact, everything was going crazy. I had
this one guy just give me the thumbs down. Oh yeah,
we've gotten that, you know, And I was like, bro,
I was having a good time, right, But like that,
sometimes it's enough to kind of like ruin like the moments.
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You know, so I just got in the mic, and
sometimes you do got to call him out a little bit,
like yo that you know, like somebody get this guy shot.
You know, he's not having a good time. Someone gets
around them.
Speaker 1 (57:03):
You almost did it like in a positive yeah yeah.
Speaker 2 (57:06):
You know, so you gotta kind of flip it on
them because like that's not cool man, Like they you
just kind of like boost.
Speaker 5 (57:11):
Someone, Like you don't do that anywhere else.
Speaker 2 (57:13):
Yeah, you don't do that anywhere else.
Speaker 5 (57:14):
A big thing for me is that as much as
the DJ feeds off the energy from the crowd, like
the crowd deep feeds off the energy from the It's
like a dance right, So It's almost like if you're
going to a club as a person attending and you
want the party to be popping and to be lit
or whatever, come with that energy, like, don't come like
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expected to be entertained. Bring the entertainment, like bring the vibe,
bring like.
Speaker 1 (57:41):
You have fun, you didn't have fun?
Speaker 3 (57:42):
Like yeah, exactly, all right, listen, man, loving this episode,
but let let's do like one last topic. It's what
I've been seeing lately. And I love seeing my team.
I love seeing my friends when we're doing so many gigs.
I love these curate Is that the word curated gigs
where a certain club only plays that certain thing. I
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think that's coming back and getting more popular. Am I
like the nights genres like, so more R and B
nights are happening now. I see brota like djds that
get thrown knights like and packing the house with thousands
of people. So I'm loving these curated where it's this
is what you're gonna get at this party. And we've
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been seeing a lot of that. Can you talk about
like the stuff that's coming in Fresno that we've been seeing.
Speaker 2 (58:31):
Yeah, So I think, like I think it's happening everywhere
I think night life is changing, right, Like there's a shift.
There's a shift, and I think like longer other days
where you could just throw a little black dress party,
you know, I think people want more. I think people
want to feel like, you know, they're going to an
experience and they're going to an event. And I'm starting
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to see it like happened a little bit more. Like
I think like more venues even more, like this new
age of promoters, which happen to be d you know,
like are getting really creative with their parties, you know,
and just adding a little bit more of an experience.
Because at the end of the day, like I think
we're living in an era where like, yes, people do
go out to Barcross, and yes, you know, people do
go out to night clubs and stuff like that, you know,
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but they don't look forward to it as much as
if they were to go to like a festival, right
or some sort of like themed pop up parties. So
it's really exciting to see like some of these venues
kind of taking starting to take that approach.
Speaker 1 (59:25):
Is that a thing that's like happening more often now?
Speaker 3 (59:27):
I've been seeing it a lot in town specifically, it's.
Speaker 2 (59:31):
A lot of like it's a lot of like thinking
out outside the box. You know, Like even like I
was just I was listening to this podcast where like
they were talking about like like there's more like DJs
like doing sets like not even in your your I
guess quote unquote normal rooms, Like they're doing stuff at
like coffee shops or stuff at like bakeries or like
or even like yeah, or even if you go into
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like just like regular bands and stuff. I think like
Blink when they did too did a show out of Denny's.
You know, it's it's kind of thinking outside of the
box that really like attracts these people because there's so
much stuff going on, you can't really rely on like
the simple like hey we got a club, we got
a hip hop night, or we got like a little
black dress party or whatever you want to call it.
Like I think, like you do have to get creative
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with some of these things.
Speaker 1 (01:00:12):
It's a good point.
Speaker 3 (01:00:13):
I mean as a DJ too, it's a good break
because Friday Saturday it's open format.
Speaker 4 (01:00:19):
I'm turning up.
Speaker 3 (01:00:20):
It's the club is almost repeat right yeah yeah yeah,
And then I have my Monday at Lucy's Lounge where
it's strictly R and B slow jams, feel good music,
and it just it's a good break mentally, and also
it gets I get to play my like you know,
things that I want to hear because that specific night,
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you're not there to really make people dance or anything.
It's just you're creating a vibe. And yeah, it's just
such a good break.
Speaker 5 (01:00:50):
There's definitely something special with I think people see it,
but again it's like subliminal for them, but for us
as a DJ, we get it where we have the
opportunity of somebody telling you come and just do your thing,
Like there's something special about that. Like I know we've
said that a lot of times with like the Lacua parties,
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where it's not like if it's hard to explain, but
it's definitely something special where like it's just like a
certain vibe where people could kind of just showcase of
like this is what I like, and the energy there
is just different because it's a lot more pure, like
the DJs are like showcasing in a sense, and I
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think the crowd really feeds off of that where they're like,
oh I can going back to like they it's a dance, right,
the crowd can tell that the DJ is having a
good time, so they're gonna have a good time. And
if they're gonna have a good time, the DJ is
gonna have a good time, and it just like multiplies.
I think that's just like curated parties of like the
DJ going with a certain intent is super special rather
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than like, oh I just gotta play like the hits.
Speaker 3 (01:01:58):
Yeah, man, congrats on all the things you guys are
doing with Lauda. I know the day parties are coming back,
so you guys want to plug like you know where
to follow, you guys where to buy tickets and all that.
Speaker 5 (01:02:09):
Yeah, so follow us at ig La Guda Party. It's
I mean, yeah, it kind of started as like a
speakeasy kind of party, but it's definitely blossomed into this
like super special like day party that it's hard to
find anything like that. I'm not saying that to brag.
I'm saying that like from my perspective as a DJ,
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like being in all these different rooms, my set at
La Gua is different any other room like that I've
ever played, and it's something that it's like I get
to do whatever I genuinely like and share things out.
I'm like Yo, I found this is dope. I'm gonna
play it for you guys, or hey, I made this,
check it out. And the people there, I think somehow
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are on the same page, like they get it. They're
there to have a good time. That's the one place
that I definitely do not even take request And I
don't even get requests, Like people are they know the assignment.
They're like, we're just here to give a good time.
We trust the DJs, no request, all vibes like it's
pretty special.
Speaker 3 (01:03:11):
I mean, what I like about it is this whole
thing came about it's by DJs. It's almost like four
DJ sort of, and you know, you guys are putting
in the work.
Speaker 5 (01:03:22):
Yeah, it's a lot of work.
Speaker 3 (01:03:24):
From marketing, a lot of marketing to the production of.
Speaker 1 (01:03:29):
One Stop Shop.
Speaker 5 (01:03:30):
Yeah, we don't just show up in DJ.
Speaker 4 (01:03:32):
It's like, yeah, that's my marketing. I'm not even booked.
Speaker 5 (01:03:37):
It's a lot of work. But I think like we
do see you know, people enjoying it, and that's just
like priceless, you know, seeing people enjoy something.
Speaker 1 (01:03:45):
That that's the payoff, right, Yeah, Like you put it on.
Speaker 5 (01:03:47):
This work and then you kind of sometimes get discouraged yours, like, man,
is it even worth it? And then at the end
of the day, you're like, wow, these people came and
enjoy the special moment and had a good time and
shared laughs and and we'resing and drinking and having good
time and eating and it's like, Okay, it's worth it.
And then you get people are like, wow, that was
so dope, Like when's the next one. It's like all right,
(01:04:08):
like I think we're onto something, like let's do it
for the people.
Speaker 3 (01:04:11):
Yeah, I'm excited for this next one. Can we I
know it's almost like a secret, but it says can
you guy? You guys want to say the day and
where it's at the low because you know what, you
guys jump to different locations. I'm excited about this next location.
Speaker 2 (01:04:26):
Yeah. So we're doing it April sixth at the Standard.
Speaker 4 (01:04:30):
Yeah and the Outdoors, which they have a beautiful outdoor patty.
Speaker 5 (01:04:35):
From one to six pm, so it just during the day.
That's like the whole thing about it is the daytime, Sunday,
fun day, turn up, good vibe. They have really good
chefs there, so they're they're holding down the menu as
far as food, music, drink, food that you don't normally
get there. It's a little bit more on the lacura side.
Same with the drinks, so it's like special drinks, special food, obviously,
(01:04:56):
special music. Music that you wouldn't hear there on the
weekends because it's.
Speaker 6 (01:04:59):
It's this kind of goes back to what you're talking about,
like a themed night, you know what I'm saying something
in this case of daytime.
Speaker 1 (01:05:05):
But yeah, all.
Speaker 3 (01:05:07):
Right, you guys want to plug because you know, podcast
they could listen to it whenever, so we don't know
when listeners listen to this specific episode. But just plug
like your Instagram or where people can find you so
they know where you guys are DJing.
Speaker 2 (01:05:21):
Next. Yeah, I mean, first of all, follow la. You
know you want to be more updated with what we
do is called at luck with a party.
Speaker 1 (01:05:29):
What's the spelling on it, l A C.
Speaker 2 (01:05:32):
You are a party supposed to be the cure, you know,
and I think a lot of people think it's just
like a Latin on league party, but it's just you know,
we're from the Central Valley. You know, like there's a
lot of loud routes here to the Central Valley. Plus
you know, our whole thing about the Sunday was supposed
to be a feel good thing like we wanted to
cure for like any weekend or like you know, if
you're not looking forward to your Monday, like at least
(01:05:52):
you have like that one good Sunday, or if you're
just crying yourself from a hangover too. Yeah, yeah, so
that's kind of where could but yeah, follow us at
the party across all socials. Tickets are on cell now,
now go get those quick on event right. Uh yeah,
your social oh my social, Yeah, you can follow me out.
Bro the spelling spelling, nobody spell it. Yeah, everybody gets
(01:06:16):
it wrong. I remember, came in here, she called me Coya.
Came in here, she called me Broth's b B.
Speaker 1 (01:06:27):
That's funny bro t b r O double h T.
Speaker 2 (01:06:31):
There you go.
Speaker 5 (01:06:31):
Mine's official DJ Burns is my handle DJ.
Speaker 4 (01:06:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:06:35):
You guys got a lot of fun gigs coming up.
So man, like I said, not just you guys are
a circle of friends, our our circle of DJ friends.
I just see everyone winning right now, is like ye,
so good to see everyone rocking clubs and it's it's
it's a vibe right now. And I know I always
say that I'm at the tail end of it. But
it's it's being your friends and being inspired seeing you
(01:06:59):
guys that make that why you know, why would I
really want to like leave this right now?
Speaker 5 (01:07:03):
You know?
Speaker 3 (01:07:03):
So it's just don't I always say, like righte it
till the wheels fall off. So I'm still on that ride.
So and it's it's because you guys, the circle of
friends we have and you know, inspire me to like
keep going.
Speaker 5 (01:07:15):
So I think it's like it's a mutual thing. I
think we all inspire each other to do better, Like
we all see each other level up, and it's inspiring,
you know.
Speaker 2 (01:07:22):
And you know, like to add to that, I know,
going soon. But like I think like dj as much
as like sometimes we complain about DJing and like you
know some of like the horror stories we experienced with it,
I think there's also so many positives, you know. I mean, yeah, yeah,
you meet like your friends.
Speaker 1 (01:07:38):
I mean everything got that it's negatives, I mean yeah, yeah, it's.
Speaker 2 (01:07:42):
Just a lot of a lot of the stuff that
like I do now you know, like a lot of
people that I met, I legit, oh it to DJing,
Like if I would have never decided to be a DJ.
Speaker 1 (01:07:51):
Like I mean, that's how we all became friends.
Speaker 2 (01:07:53):
So that was crazy, like some of the stuff that experienced,
like I've never would have like you know, I don't
know what I don't know what I would be doing
right now.
Speaker 3 (01:07:59):
I think these negative experiences. Number one, it's like fun
to share to kind of making fun of it, and
also like, oh, we're not alone. You go through this
ship too, So that's why we kind of covered these.
It is more on the entertainment side of it, and
maybe we should do the next episode where it's like
all the positive things that's come out.
Speaker 5 (01:08:20):
That's gonna be a two hour episode.
Speaker 3 (01:08:23):
Because you're right, there is way more positive, but we're
just like highlighting these like fun stories, just.
Speaker 4 (01:08:29):
Fun horror story.
Speaker 5 (01:08:30):
Yeah, And.
Speaker 3 (01:08:33):
I can one hundred percent guarantee DJ is listening right now,
going like yuh
Speaker 5 (01:08:38):
Yeah,
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