2 Elite Basketball Programs: Iowa Cannot Have Both | Walk Ons LIVE

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome into the Watchup walk Ons. This year episode is
a rebroadcast from last night. If you missed the live
YouTube stream, it was on Twitter and Facebook as well.
That's okay, this conversation is still relevant. We're talking basketball,
We're talking the open Iowa coaching search. We talked some
other things as well. Kevin, myself and Grant hop on
for a casual March Madness walk on live show, different speed,

(00:22):
You'll enjoy it.

Speaker 2 (00:22):
Let's have a day, Let's go doing some shady stuff.

Speaker 1 (00:51):
I don't know. I don't know. Let's see Hi Kinley
daughter in the chat under my wife's Twitter.

Speaker 3 (00:58):
We love that.

Speaker 1 (01:00):
Yeah, I don't know. Todd, I just saw. I just
saw a video as we as we hit live here
that in his interview he was talking about the process.

Speaker 3 (01:09):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:10):
I don't know if that was legal or not legal.
I don't know what the process is, and I don't
know who governs that process, if there is any governing body.
Kevin Ward, No, the NCAA. How are we doing doing fantastic?
How are we doing?

Speaker 3 (01:26):
Chat?

Speaker 1 (01:27):
You're talking over two hundred people already, keV, and they
all want to know who's Kevin's the next ulti basketball coach.
I think I said Brian Ferns.

Speaker 3 (01:37):
Brian Farrens would be a solid, solid addition. I feel
like we'd get a lot of good interior play.

Speaker 1 (01:43):
Just a lot of impression, a lot of a lot
of running it down your throats, attack in the basket.
Who knows he?

Speaker 3 (01:54):
Who else is on the short list?

Speaker 1 (01:57):
That's see, that's the problem is all I've seen is
the two the too that everybody wants. And so I
don't know. Mississippi State coach I think is his name
is Chris Jans. Chris Jans is currently the Mississippi State
basketball coach. He was born in Fairbank, Iowa and went

(02:19):
to Loris.

Speaker 3 (02:20):
So are you just like purely going after people born
in the state of Iowa.

Speaker 1 (02:25):
Well, I don't know, what do you think about? What
do you think about that? Like not a necessity at all,
but like it's nice to have a tie, right.

Speaker 3 (02:36):
Yeah, I mean yeah, ties to the state is a plus,
But you know, it's it's one of those things like
would you rather have it than not have it? Sure?
But does it move the needle any other way whatsoever? Hardly,
if any in my opinion.

Speaker 1 (02:49):
I don't know. I feel I feel like I don't.
I don't really understand that either, other than maybe you
understand like the state and the recruiting grounds a little
bit more.

Speaker 3 (02:58):
Yeah, but it doesn't take that long to figure that out.
For some right from the state of Mississippi or whatever.

Speaker 1 (03:05):
You know, sure well, I mean he's from Iowa. But
and that's the thing is like are they are they?
At that point? You're like, are they a good coach
or are they just from Iowa? And it seems like
it would work right. I don't know what Mississippi State's doing.
I think they're at the tournament. I haven't filled up
my bracket.

Speaker 3 (03:25):
N I'm sorry, who from the SEC isn't in the tournament?

Speaker 1 (03:29):
Good point? Good point fourteen auto bids or something like that. Again,
not a basketball show, but seems like there's a little
SEC bias going on, and it's not just in football.
Tell you what, these guys in the SEC just means
more down there. I don't know if I could have

(03:50):
actually I had a chance to go to the SEC.
I could have been an Auburn or Alabama, could have
walked on. There was a there was a small opportunity
if I would have pursued it.

Speaker 3 (03:58):
Should have done that. You think I should have You
would have won a national title. I guess Auburn. No,
not all lost to Florida State.

Speaker 1 (04:11):
Not at Auburn. I don't know what you and Grant
were in the other room, weren't you.

Speaker 3 (04:20):
Yeah, yeah, I was just chilling for like five minutes.

Speaker 1 (04:23):
Okay, Yeah, I don't know why. It's uh, why it
switched on me. I gotta get this, get this link
to Grant or else. He's never gonna join us, and
Grant's really the main show here. I mean, uh, it's
a big it's a big time a year for him. Hey, hi, Ali, Wow,

(04:46):
that's the last name. Let me take it. Let me
take a crack fade an hour. I was gonna a
five an hour Fodden hour. Yeah, there might be a
little ah.

Speaker 3 (04:56):
I was gonna go with it over there. Probably probably
can we get a phonetic spelling please.

Speaker 1 (05:03):
Yeah, there's definitely the p is definitely silent and watch
she's gonna hit us with No, it's actually a Fodenower,
todd says. Ryan Bowen is an assistant for the Nuggets.
Might be a possibility. Yeah, I mean he's in the league.
He's shown some shum shump some amounts of uh.

Speaker 3 (05:22):
Is there a decent amount of NBA back to NCAA
for coaching. I don't know, you know, I feel it's
not big in football obviously, No, you know, you hear
about here and there, But I don't know. It's like

(05:42):
basketball isn't more common.

Speaker 1 (05:45):
I don't know, it's such a p is silent by
the way, it's such a different game, like you know,
college football to NFL football. I feel like, is it's
just sped up in a sense. I mean, it's certainly
a slightly different game, right, Like there's there's some probably
some advanced concepts there that a lot of people aren't
running in college. They got to they gotta learn some stuff.
But like basketball in the NBA is much different than

(06:08):
it is in the NCAA. It it is. There's a
lot of overseas influence of how the game is played.
I saw a stat the other day that like a
lot of people in the basketball world are trying to
figure out why the NBA, like numbers and ratings are declining.

Speaker 3 (06:24):
Oh I think I saw this. Yeah, it's like it's
the analytics. You look at the shot plots. Yeah, it's
like it's like forty threes and then everything else is
inside the paint.

Speaker 1 (06:34):
I think it was maybe even over half of the
shots taken or three pointers. Yeah, it's either a dunk
or you get it. You know, you get it to
your big man who's seven feet plus in the NBA
and they get some sort of shot within five feet
or you're shooting a three.

Speaker 3 (06:47):
There's just no in a basket in that yet.

Speaker 1 (06:49):
And now yeah, yeah you're trying to lay it like
there's just no mid range game. Canceling spring games around
the NC DOUBLEA great question, Brian, is this like.

Speaker 3 (06:58):
A thing that's picking up like tracks, Like I think.

Speaker 1 (07:01):
Multiple people have done it for anybody in the chat,
drop it drop any No Nebraska has done it? I
know that is it? Clemson and Dabbo did they drop it?

Speaker 3 (07:13):
I mean why they just want to have like a
non public practice, like just take advantage of fifteen practice?

Speaker 1 (07:19):
I think I think the idea is like now with
the transfer portal and M and NIL is like you're
giving people basically, you know, Iowa has a you know,
I was going to have their open spring practice here
in five weeks whatever, and you're basically saying, hey, anybody
like you're free to come, like if you're on the staff,

(07:41):
if you're what's his face at Michigan, Uh, you don't
even have to like wear disguise and the mustache in
the hat right Like you can walk right in Connor Stallion's.
You can walk right in and just take a seat
and you can get a full I mean, depending on
how how much that that team wants to run. And
you and I both know that that KF and and

(08:02):
the boys don't get real exotic at spring spring game.

Speaker 3 (08:07):
I wouldn't be surprised if the script for a spring
game has like been the same for the last ten years.

Speaker 1 (08:12):
They just re downloaded every year twenty three b run
it again, Run it again. And even the way that
Iowa does it is sort of built to fight against that.
Like Iowa is not running. For any of you who
have been you know, they're not running a traditional real
spring game. You know, you don't it after warm up,

(08:32):
they don't break into two sides and they immediately start
playing each other like they go through a lot of
the practice stuff that we did anyway, and then they
get you know, they they come to a team period
and it is a little bit more extended than a normal,
normal practice. But it's like in a way keV we did.
We did that practice a lot basically, and there's a
lot of team period in practice. Anyway, we don't I

(08:55):
don't know if they even score it or if they
did when we were there, I can't even.

Speaker 3 (08:58):
They came up with some like unique scoring system, like
you know, a stop was x amount of points for
the defense. Yeah, you know, offense can still get their
points their way.

Speaker 1 (09:09):
It was always offense defense. We never actually put two
teams together, right, Yeah, So you know you're asking Connor
Stallions to come in take a seat at the you know,
at the fifty PLoP down and just like, hey, I'm
gonna get some film on the three Iowa guys that
are that are that we're at all interested in, and
then nowadays just shoot a quick DM. Hey loved what

(09:31):
I saw at practice today. If if there's ever an opportunity,
we'd love for you to be a Wolverine. You know,
there's a there's a spot for for you here over
on the big Blue ship.

Speaker 3 (09:41):
Yeah like you, but don't you say like maybe like
like your a top tier program, Like hey, this guy
who's sitting behind this guy, like like let's say this
cornerback number one, Like this dude's a dude, right, yeah,
his backup, it's like pretty dang good. It's like after this.

Speaker 1 (10:01):
Guy, Yeah, somebody that somebody that they don't actually they
don't have a lot of tape on, but he might
get a lot of reps in the Yeah, I mean
it's it's legitimate. You know, you gotta I suppose that's
probably your your your biggest use case right there is
So basically.

Speaker 3 (10:16):
It all comes back to tampering.

Speaker 1 (10:18):
Roles, well tampering, but it also comes back to the
kind of people you're recruiting, right Like if some school
is able to come in and lure this kid away,
you know, he spends one freshman season on the sideline,
doesn't play a lot of potential, he's the two going in.
We'll just say cornerback like like the example you used,
and now he's getting a ton of reps in spring.

(10:38):
He's probably gonna cycle in in his second season. He's
gonna have a significant role on special teams. And some
team comes in and they're like, hey, didn't talk too
much in the recruiting cycle when you were in high school,
but a lot of good you know, a lot of
good buzz coming out of Iowa City about you know,
your potential and how you could fill you know, looks
like you're going to be a two this year. But
we got a spot we need to We need a

(11:00):
cornerback one. We need a guy to start. If that's
all it takes, I mean, obviously there's going to be
dollar signs attached to that. And when we get into
some more basketball conversation here we talk about defrees and
McCollum and what Iowa has for Iowa might be broke.
For men's basketball at iow we might be we might
be poor Kevin, And there's a real dilemma because there's

(11:21):
only enough money to go around. But anyway, you know,
Michigan comes in with five million dollars. It's probably not
five million, but for a cornerback, they're like, hey, we'll
give you a million bucks. Switch over. You spent one
year at Iowa. It was great, good, good learning experience.
Come come be a Wolverine, Come be a Buck guy,
and you're going to be our starter. If that's all
it takes, then I don't know if that's the guy

(11:44):
you wanted in the first place. You know, there's a
little bit of yeah.

Speaker 3 (11:47):
But you know again coming back to you know being lured, right,
This isn't uh, your toddler being lured with some candy.
This is you know, real money, right.

Speaker 1 (12:00):
Well, yeah, you're right. I mean it's life changing money.
And I can't sit here and say that I wouldn't
have gone somewhere. How much would it Here's a fun question.
Let's play a hypothetical.

Speaker 3 (12:09):
I don't like the question. How much would it have taken?

Speaker 1 (12:14):
How much would it have taken for Kevin Ward? And
I'm not even saying that you're well, I mean, shit,
maybe I am. Let's say let's say for me, Let's
just use me as an example. Let's say Casey actually
had three years left, kay, and you know, I end
up being a hawkey and I I'm like, hey, yeah,
I'd love to walk on. But then for some reason

(12:34):
they come and they're like, hey, we need a long
snapper bad. In fact, Nebraska's in this situation. Ther guy
has sucked for two years. They can't find anybody. And
I think they actually paid somebody in the portal to
come up from like some Northeast school, like a small
school in the Northeast, Like they paid him like twenty
or thirty grand to come be a Husker and be
the snapper for next year. So you know, I'm not

(12:56):
I would not have been in a position to make
like five hundred grand, But what was the number for me?
There was certainly a number. I mean this this is
the age old adage of like, hey, every man's got
his price, right, Yeah, what would it have taken for
me to not be a Hawkey? You know, Hey, you're
gonna sit behind Casey Kreider for for three years you

(13:17):
really don't want to. You're not going to see the
field until in our case, we were there in twenty thirteen.
You're not going to see the field till twenty sixteen.

Speaker 3 (13:23):
Once you used to use the real life situation, and
it's that year two you're about to be the starter,
but you're still not on scholarship or so true even
year three when you got your scholarship, and there still
would have been.

Speaker 1 (13:33):
A number for you, still wasn't it in year three either,
So it actually is really relevant.

Speaker 3 (13:38):
Now they got in your three.

Speaker 1 (13:40):
Nope, I played twenty fourteen and twenty fifteen season as
a walk on. Ah, So it's but that makes the
situation even more real. They're like, hey, they keep leading
you on. They're they're going to give you a scholarship.
That it's a lot of money. It's been in twenty
five thirty grand to go to go to school. I
wasn't that much. Seventeen twenty grand in state tuition. We've got, uh,

(14:03):
we've got twenty five grand a year. What do you say? Oo? Dude,
I don't know if I would have done it for
twenty five.

Speaker 3 (14:13):
I mean, then it comes back that there's too many
variables in the hypotheticals. There is, there is where? What's
the situation there? Do I sure which is there? You know, YadA, YadA, YadA.

Speaker 1 (14:23):
I'll tell you this. If it was Bama or somebody
with national title contentions and they were offering that twenty
five grand speaks a little louder than if it was
like Rutgers.

Speaker 3 (14:33):
You know, yeah, I would not want to go to Rutgers.

Speaker 1 (14:36):
You'd have to pay me. You might have had to
pay me six figures a year to get me out
of Iowa City to go out east to Rutgers. And
I'm dead serious about it.

Speaker 4 (14:46):
What happened to seven? What happened? What happened to what
I thought we were doing seven.

Speaker 3 (14:51):
What happened seven?

Speaker 1 (14:53):
That guy shut down rule no no, no hold on
grand Grant grants made it everybody the uh, the one
and only Grant is here. But Grant, I'll just we'll
just I'll just shore this up. Kevin said, should be
As a response to six thirty good, Kevin said, should
be seven probably better. And I said Roger that I'm
gonna make tonight a live stream. I'll start it up

(15:15):
around six thirty and you can hop in once you're good. So,
I don't know you read that wrong or what they
completely wrong?

Speaker 4 (15:22):
That's on me.

Speaker 3 (15:23):
Comprehension and stuff.

Speaker 1 (15:24):
Is it's that Iowa Education baby Grant. Welcome five hundred
plus people in here already on the live stream.

Speaker 4 (15:31):
Welcome. Wow.

Speaker 1 (15:32):
Yeah, that's what it says. I mean five hundred and
fifteen right now and growing. Welcome everybody in Ali. A
good question on the who's going to be the next
men's basketball coach? It's not gonna Darren de Freeze. We
know that he's the in the Ada coach. Not enough money.

Speaker 4 (15:44):
And another question, holcome, I wasn't invited to talk to
the I called this stuff. What's over that?

Speaker 1 (15:49):
I mean I recorded that last week. It's because you
have a real job.

Speaker 3 (15:54):
Grant.

Speaker 1 (15:56):
This is it.

Speaker 3 (15:56):
We do this at six thirty.

Speaker 1 (15:58):
No no, I with iicult on a day where you
said you were blocked up and I recorded with him
in the middle of.

Speaker 3 (16:05):
The day, blocked up and bricked up all the questions.

Speaker 4 (16:09):
Now let me let me talk about records.

Speaker 1 (16:11):
Well, I don't know if you're all out of questions
that we as we mentioned before you got here. This
is your this is your month, this is your time.
It's March, and Grant couldn't be more excited.

Speaker 4 (16:19):
This isn't interrupt you guys were doing.

Speaker 1 (16:21):
No no, no, no, no, you are the highlight of the show. No,
don't leave. This is a this is a three man
podcast now and we've got tons of chat. I don't
know if you guys can see the chat, if you
have to pull that up or not. I think Kevin
kan because he already mentioned it. Courtney, you mentioned do
you really think that'll stop poaching? Poaching is never gonna
you know, you know, you cancel those spring games, it's
not gonna stop poaching. They're gonna find a way.

Speaker 3 (16:43):
I mean, the only thing that stops poaching is if
they have some like whistleblower type rules in there, like
like like if you whist like say you're working for
some company and you whistle blow to the government about
some bad thing that they're doing, you can get competent
stated significantly for that. Sure sure that those are the
type of rules that I think are going to be

(17:05):
necessary to kind of get this thing rained in where
like the people who are doing the poaching get severe
punishment and people report the poaching. I either players all
right incentivized?

Speaker 1 (17:16):
Yeah, yeah, can you imagine if can you imagine if
if all it took was the NC douable a laying
the law down on somebody, and it was it was
as simple as hey, if you're a player and you're
contacted by a coach from another UH from another university
trying to trying to bring you over to the other side,
all you have to do is send us the DM

(17:37):
or send us the text message and proof and that
coach is one year ban that the program gets a
some kind of like do you it would it would
start to be way more backchannel. People are going to
find ways, They're going to have somebody they know, have
somebody they know, have somebody they know contact.

Speaker 3 (17:55):
Them, hide behind the bushes outside their apartment is hey, man,
how much to get you to Miami?

Speaker 1 (18:00):
Don't ask questions. I can't name names. How much? How
much is it gonna take to bring you down to.

Speaker 3 (18:05):
Don't answer now, just leave a post a note on
your door. At the end of the day, there.

Speaker 1 (18:10):
Will be an envelope in a locker. There's a key
under the bush next to the building.

Speaker 3 (18:15):
You're gonna take that to a guy named Mike at
the come and go down the road.

Speaker 1 (18:19):
He's gonna be in the bathroom. Okay, you can't go
in the same stall as him. Slide it under this
once you get it, go to the bank, all right.
It's gonna be in lock box seven thirteen. There's gonna
be a phone in there. It's gonna be a burner.
You have one call to make. If you make a
second call, it blows up. Don't do that. You're gonna

(18:39):
call John John works in admissions. Okay, but don't tell
anybody that or else we're gonna have to kill you.
It's like, coach, I'm just a long snapper. What are
we talking about? Oh Grant? How about you? I know
you just got a job in the in the sales world.
But are you free? Could you be a men's basketball coach?

Speaker 4 (19:02):
If if called upon, yes, I will.

Speaker 3 (19:06):
Philosophy, what's your what's your what's your style?

Speaker 1 (19:08):
What's your what's your play? Still gonna look like.

Speaker 4 (19:10):
Oh, we're gonna play hard, all right, We're gonna all right,
we're gonna we're gonna box out hard.

Speaker 3 (19:16):
I know that no one's gonna box out harder than not.

Speaker 1 (19:18):
Give me a defensive program.

Speaker 4 (19:20):
Oh, we're gonna try and we I'm gonna make every
game that people play off was miserable to watch to play.
We will.

Speaker 1 (19:30):
We're running out the.

Speaker 4 (19:30):
Shot clock every time we would get in that then
the full clock.

Speaker 1 (19:33):
So you're playing, you're playing the way Drake plays.

Speaker 4 (19:35):
Then close. But we're not seeing the tournament and neither
of you. We're also taking you out. Everyone's coming down
with us.

Speaker 1 (19:45):
We're not gonna see the tournament, and neither are you.

Speaker 4 (19:48):
Don't don't schedule us good luck with that.

Speaker 3 (19:52):
It'd be like like there's a bet out there. It's
like if you bet against the team that played Damno
the week before, like you were very profitable in that
because they're just beat up. So we're just gonna bet
against the team that played Grant's team the week before.

Speaker 4 (20:08):
Yeah, no, if called upon, I would coach the team.
I don't think I'm the red coach though.

Speaker 3 (20:15):
I just don't.

Speaker 1 (20:16):
You're probably not the right guy.

Speaker 4 (20:17):
I think I'm a lot better at watching basketball now.

Speaker 1 (20:19):
We made the show on the offer if.

Speaker 3 (20:21):
If extended to you.

Speaker 4 (20:22):
No, I will accept it. I will still accept it.
But I just think there's got to be people out there,
Rick Petina, you are and I I I'm just saying,
why haven't no one has refuted this?

Speaker 1 (20:35):
Yeah, no one, No one's no one's. I like what
he's doing too, you know, I like what he could
do as an Iowhawk guy. Grant. Grant and I said
it the other day, Hey, if you, if you, if
you guaranteed us two great years of Rick Patino and
his full effort in Iowa City, would you take it
knowing that you only get two years? And Grant and
I were both emphatically like yes, yes.

Speaker 3 (20:55):
The question was his the hooker's thing, the cocaine thing,
hookers and cocaine.

Speaker 1 (20:58):
I was probably both.

Speaker 4 (20:59):
He he had a lot of a lot of things.

Speaker 1 (21:02):
There's a questionable recruiting tactics going on down in there.

Speaker 4 (21:07):
It was some questionable recruiting going down in Louisville, but
I was when I was in Louisville recently. That banner
is still up outside the it's out the stadium, and
then there's a building that I think it's a distillery.
It's across the street and there's a big twenty fourteen
banner still up.

Speaker 3 (21:25):
Did the NCAA void it?

Speaker 4 (21:26):
They did? And that's the dumbest that's the that of
all the things the NCAA does, the thing.

Speaker 1 (21:32):
That which isn't a lot anymore, by.

Speaker 4 (21:34):
The way, I think voiding championships is like the dumbest
thing ever. It's like we didn't not see it, like
we still know. It's like if you have who wanted
twenty fourteen, you're gonna say, Lougal, like you're not gonna
be like I just I don't even.

Speaker 3 (21:45):
Remember, right, Yeah you know, yeah, because like you said,
it's like the players and the teams like no, it's like, hey,
we won those games, and yeah we were the best team.

Speaker 1 (21:54):
But we all know who was who won the games.
We saw we watched it. Yeah, Allie in the chat,
very active, thank you for being active, thank you for
participating leading the show, said a huge fan of the podcast,
got to bring Coop back on the show Birthday pick six. Yeah,
Grant and I talked about that as well in one
of the more previous episodes. I agree. I agree necessary

(22:16):
to get Coop back on. Feel bad asking him to
come back on because now he's a superstar in Philadelphia.
Guy's just an absolute phenom. But maybe he has maybe yeah, yeah,
well humble beginnings.

Speaker 4 (22:30):
You have the walk on pod.

Speaker 1 (22:32):
I mean, I think he'd come on. I just got
to shoot in maybe we say, I think we maybe
we saved that one for the real dead time, because
we're coming up on this tournament ends. There's no more basketball.
It's gonna get real.

Speaker 4 (22:45):
There's more. There's the NBA, NHL, you got the Masters,
Big Masters.

Speaker 1 (22:50):
I understand, but it gets real dry. It gets real
dry in the Hawkeye world. There's just not a lot
of Hawkeye stuff to talk about. So, by the way,
you guys don't have children. But it's fun. I'm down
in the basement and sometimes I just hear it. I
have the noise canceling headphones on, but sometimes I just
hear thumps and I just don't know if it's Kinley
falling down the stairs, or if she's dropping stuff in

(23:12):
the kitchen. It's just like, it's a real fun game
to play. Don't hear any crying, So I think we're good.

Speaker 3 (23:20):
I think we're good.

Speaker 4 (23:20):
I think we're good to want to hear crying, because
then that means like just sure a little bit.

Speaker 1 (23:26):
Yeah, it's a really fun time. Yeah, it's a real
fun time. She's she's purely just directly in the middle
of just being a super toddler, just like to a tee.
And so she's got a lot of feistiness. Uh, just
last night upgraded her to the big girl bed. She's
out of the crib into the big girl bed. So
nighttime routine a little bit different. She's a little confused.

(23:49):
She she's very strong willed. We come around to bedtime.
She wants to be up watching the March Madness games. Right,
She's just a she she knows ball.

Speaker 4 (23:57):
Really. She came to you and was like, hey, I
know if you could extend my bedtime. Albama State is
playing at night.

Speaker 1 (24:04):
She was she wanted to watch the Hornets so bad
last night and just I know, right, just a ball knower,
And and you got to look at her in the eyes.
You gotta be like, hey, it's time for bed, like
your two and you need sleep, and she's just like A,
I don't want to do that. And so then she
gets a little feisty, and so sometimes she throws herself

(24:25):
on the ground. That could be what I'm hearing. I
don't know. Seems like she's been eating eggs. She's just strong,
she's got protein.

Speaker 3 (24:34):
Can we take her eggs?

Speaker 1 (24:35):
That's six SCRAMs of protein scrambled just like dad. I
never I never asked you last.

Speaker 4 (24:40):
Time when we eggs?

Speaker 1 (24:42):
Yeah, she she just loves them over easy on toast. No,
I never asked. I never reciprocated the question you asked
me how I cooked my eggs? You know, I hit
him with the carry gold butter. How do you cook
your eggs?

Speaker 3 (24:53):
I'm buttered, doesn't have to be carry gold button. Not
pretty agnostic under the butter. I'm over easy. Yeah, I
think butters.

Speaker 1 (25:02):
I think butter is the way to go. You get
that adult money and you can get away from that
pam kitchen spray. You know, it's like, yeah, I gotta
probably upgrade, right, I can. I can afford butter. You know, if.

Speaker 3 (25:14):
I'm doing an omelet, though, I'll usually use GI.

Speaker 1 (25:18):
I've never used GI.

Speaker 3 (25:20):
Well, that's the upgrade from butter.

Speaker 1 (25:22):
Really it's even better.

Speaker 3 (25:24):
It's so it's clarified. Butter is what it is. Okay,
so it can It's got a lot higher smoke point.
Oh okay, maybe people might people jumping in. I think
we're we're promoting the butter Council. In reality, we're just
promoting the egg Council.

Speaker 1 (25:41):
IOE egg shout out to them partnering with us this month.
Six s grams of protein. One of the best ways
you can start to start your day is with protein.
That's all I'm saying. Good for the body. No need
to throw any of that carb overloaded sugar drinks, fast
food into your system. Start with some eggs, good healthy fats.

(26:03):
You'll feel way better mental clarity. Put some caffeine in
there too. Get a little coffee. Coffee and eggs. Great
way to start the day. Iweg council. Shout out to him.
More coming from them. Ali asked if we've ever interviewed
Dolph twice? Is the answer out, Elli and Uh. You
can go find those on our YouTube or the audio
platforms to search walk Ons, Washed Up, walk Ons, Dolph

(26:26):
or Gary Dolphin. Those two will come up two fantastic episodes.

Speaker 3 (26:29):
Yeah, those those are two of my favorite episodes. I
really enjoyed talking to Dolph.

Speaker 1 (26:34):
I would say, you know, we're closing in on six
hundred episodes of this thing, numbered episodes plus all the
other ones that we've done, which is probably closer like
eight or nine hundred when you consider all of the
stuff we've done. And I would say, top fifteen episode
for sure. If you're the right person, you love Gary
Dolphin could be a top ten. It's hard to get

(26:56):
into that top ten nowadays. You know we're we get
to a thousand episodes. Ten is one percent the one percenter. Dang, yeah,
hard to be a one percenter. We were just trying
to be five percenters at Iowa, right ninety five to five?

Speaker 3 (27:09):
CUFFI five.

Speaker 1 (27:12):
Let's see if there's any other things I miss in
the chat here? Uh G Bone late yep, G Bone
was late going to dock that on his pay on
the upcoming pay cycleon was more confused than late Beth.
Uh switch over to basketball A little basketball talk. When
Beth announced that she the change, she said a national
white a nationwide search would take place. May just be

(27:33):
a d speak. She has a lot of contacts Brad
Stevens being one of the best Brad coaches. Who.

Speaker 4 (27:39):
Yeah, I'm just gonna be honest, Bret Stevens is not
going to be our coach. I'm just going to throw
that out there right now, Guys. I don't think he like, like,
I believe it could be wrong. I believe he is
the Is he not the GM of the Celtics currently?

Speaker 1 (27:51):
Is that?

Speaker 4 (27:51):
Okay?

Speaker 3 (27:52):
Sounds like a step down, like a flight of stairs.

Speaker 4 (27:56):
Yeah, I mean.

Speaker 1 (27:57):
Taking a GM to be our coach. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (27:59):
And it's always the joke too that he's going to
be the next coach Indiana or whatever. I think that
might be a little bit of it as well, since
we've been brew in a recruiting battle with them lately
over coaches. But uh, did you guys see this, by
the way, too fall that like some some burner turned
into the greatest journalist ever there's been like a guy
there's a Twitter account called like I you and on

(28:22):
instead of like qan on and they were tweeting like
a month ago. He was like, I'm so tired of
all these journalists speculating on stuff we already all know
who the the Indiana decided a month ago who the
coach was and he's like, I'm willing to say it's Devrees.
And then like it was going popular yesterday because it
was like where did this guy get all this information?
And then Devrees today it's like, yeah, you know, Indiana

(28:44):
was respectfully talking to me during the season, but whatnot,
Like I don't know who iuan On is, but he's
the greatest journalist.

Speaker 1 (28:51):
This is an incredible segue, Grant, because one of the
things I wanted to bring up in this whole thing.
You see the you see the discourse back and forth
on Twitter.

Speaker 3 (28:57):
Actually, you guys already talked about that.

Speaker 4 (28:59):
By the way, I'm embarrass.

Speaker 1 (29:00):
No, we haven't said a word about the about the men.

Speaker 4 (29:04):
I didn't know.

Speaker 3 (29:05):
You're so into the IU burner scene.

Speaker 1 (29:06):
That's Grants heavy into all the burner scenes. He's not
even a.

Speaker 4 (29:10):
Burner, He's a journalist.

Speaker 1 (29:11):
He has respected and and uh.

Speaker 4 (29:15):
Him cronkite Burgundy.

Speaker 1 (29:20):
Uh Phil Parker fan Uh the dude. The it kills
me how the Iowa Burner Network, Phil, they seem.

Speaker 4 (29:30):
To have those are my top four journalists ever, the.

Speaker 1 (29:34):
Iowa Burner Network. I don't know if they just tweet
it to be funny. Some of them actually are tweeting
like they have the info. How do the burners? How
would these kids that run burners at the university have
any info?

Speaker 4 (29:47):
Like they.

Speaker 1 (29:49):
Like most of them are college kids. I just want
to talk shit behind anonymous account. I mean, let's just
play the facts. Some of them might be our age keV.
I mean it's a little sad. It could be. It's
definitely sadder. But you know, you see it yesterday. You
know they're tweeting Dafreeze to Iowa is confirmed, like there
he's been hired. Him and ad came to a conclusion.

(30:10):
They're sitting there working on the numbers, and then it
comes out like an hour later, DeFreeze head coach of Indiana.
It's like, why are you tweeting this? Is it just
to get engagement? I mean, do you actually think that
your sources, your friend's friend's mom heard something at the
grocery store and that's correct.

Speaker 4 (30:25):
You know, like I I do this all the time.
He's just it's just manifesting it. Just tweeted it into existence.

Speaker 1 (30:30):
Yes, that's why. It's just a manifestation thing.

Speaker 4 (30:32):
And this is what we did with Prebulah, Like if
he help for Beulah enough times, he's coming, he will
and he might look at his phone and be like,
I guess I'm a hawk.

Speaker 1 (30:41):
If I put this in the ether, somehow, some way,
it will turn into reality.

Speaker 4 (30:45):
Yeah, I mean maybe, I don't know. I'm not going
to do it all the time. I'm not going to
be got criticizing it would be very hypocritical.

Speaker 1 (30:53):
I just I'm just waiting for Grant's burner to be leaked.
I want to know what Grant's burner is.

Speaker 3 (30:58):
I did, Are you willing to admit that you have
a burner on here?

Speaker 1 (31:02):
I know I don't.

Speaker 4 (31:03):
Actually this is I'm only I'm only big ten grand.
I was considering for a while doing like a it
would be funny, like during the last year's season, And
maybe I'll do it this year, doing like a Clover's
burner account or something and not telling you guys, but
just like talking a ton of shit to Twitter. Oh

(31:24):
my god, another week air bowling.

Speaker 1 (31:28):
Just imagine, just imagine some account pops up it's it's
Clover's burner and they use some some picture of me
from when I was a diabetic uh, like back when
I played just pudgy. I still had hair. By the
way I look the hat, by the way, makes it
that it's such an illusion that I like, have it

(31:50):
really put together up here, but it's actually just balled underneath.
But the hat. I saw this hat in my office tonight, keV.
I just thought, damn, that looks crispy.

Speaker 3 (31:58):
Is a nice good break out in uh November.

Speaker 1 (32:03):
Gonna have to write we're getting you know, they're they're
they're celebrating us.

Speaker 3 (32:08):
Oh yeah, okay, well we're old now, Grant, So the
twenty to fifteen Big ten West champs are getting recognized
in November.

Speaker 1 (32:19):
Ten year reunion. That'll be the Organ game for anybody
that's interested. So I we never got to play the Ducks,
but we will be on the field during an Iowa
versus Organ game. There's there.

Speaker 3 (32:36):
It's still gonna be handful of dudes that are still
playing in the league that won't be able to make it.

Speaker 1 (32:40):
Yeah, I mean Josie's Josi ain't gonna be there unless
it happens to be a bye week or something.

Speaker 3 (32:45):
I mean, yeah, CJ probably won't be there.

Speaker 1 (32:48):
J who else?

Speaker 3 (32:49):
The kittle kttle.

Speaker 1 (32:52):
Sounds like uh could be some Shenanigans and Dez might
be hanging them up. I saw something about Desmond's tweeting
out it might be time to hang them up, Like
I think it working.

Speaker 4 (33:03):
Was officially done. I think that's the.

Speaker 1 (33:06):
Hell of a career man. It's tough, especially especially when
he's kind of always been that tweeter in the NFL.
I feel like, you know, they were using him at
he just he kind of floated around a bunch of defenses.
Really great contributor to a lot of to a lot
of teams a lot of years. I mean he's made
it almost a decade. It's tough to stick around the league.

(33:29):
I mean he's got his.

Speaker 3 (33:29):
Pension right, Oh yeah, big time.

Speaker 1 (33:32):
How much is a pension in the league, by the way,
how much you get paid like when you.

Speaker 3 (33:35):
It's a proportion of how much you get paid and
how many years he played, So it is it is.
I don't know the formula. It's not a set money amount.

Speaker 1 (33:45):
It is based off of your salary during your time
though someone.

Speaker 3 (33:48):
Salary or how many games he played, or how many
years or invested years you have.

Speaker 1 (33:52):
So if you're like Kittle or Sheriff for one of
these guys who goes for a decade and gets a
ton of money.

Speaker 3 (33:56):
Your pull it up. There's a formula.

Speaker 4 (34:00):
It says the average UNIFAL pension is forty three thousand
dollars a year, which is not great, but.

Speaker 3 (34:07):
But it's free money for doing nothing.

Speaker 1 (34:10):
True.

Speaker 3 (34:10):
And also most people get a pension when they turn
sixty five, not when they turn thirty thirty.

Speaker 1 (34:16):
Yeah, you're right.

Speaker 4 (34:17):
The highest NFL pension is two hundred grand.

Speaker 1 (34:21):
That's pretty damn good. So take that, haters, it's that
I can't imagine.

Speaker 4 (34:27):
Who that would be. Do you have, mister negative.

Speaker 1 (34:31):
We'll come back around. Kevin and I got some insider
information on this whole basketball thing, remember that.

Speaker 3 (34:35):
KeV, I do. Yeah, we have got that long ago.

Speaker 1 (34:38):
Yeah it was it was today, Actually insider info before
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Me and Grant just shooting the ship.

Speaker 4 (37:10):
Some one said the other day it was it's the
it's their favorite show.

Speaker 1 (37:13):
They did they did. They like it more than anything
else we do. Crazy to me that that's the reality.

Speaker 3 (37:18):
But you know.

Speaker 1 (37:20):
That was a real person that was not our burners.
Let's see if I could pull up this, Uh, let's
pull up this info that we got keV. Because from
what people are seeing, uh seeing or saying, this is
not breaking news, I would say, but it is fun.
So I believe And I don't know if this is true,

(37:41):
but it sounds like Darren de Frees came Diowa City,
there was a trip made, he met with Beth or
they met somewhere. I saw people tracking planes to like
Illinois where people are nuts by the way, people are
fucking Yeah, that's just weird to me. If you're tracking flight,
you've gone too far in my book. So they met

(38:06):
and Indiana obviously has DeFreeze as the head coach. He
was the first guy on a lot of people's lists
coach for Drake for a long time coach under McDermott
at at Creighton, and you know he is in fact,
I have like this weird like three was it like, uh,

(38:27):
seven levels of Kevin Bacon or what's that? What is this?
What is that?

Speaker 4 (38:31):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (38:33):
Isn't there isn't there like a like a thing that's
like six six something of Kevin Bacon? Where you connect
yourself to Kevin Bacon or celebrity in like six connections.

Speaker 4 (38:41):
Oh, that's called six degrees of separation.

Speaker 1 (38:44):
But I don't believe.

Speaker 3 (38:45):
I don't think.

Speaker 1 (38:46):
No, I swear to God, Kevin Bacon is like who
they use as like an example.

Speaker 3 (38:50):
I don't know. I was like six degrees of separation
and you can get to like over half the world.

Speaker 1 (38:55):
Sure, well, in that same sense, I'm I'm two degrees
of separational from Darren Davrees as like a my wife
coached with his sister. And I guess theoretically keV his
brother is a lum of Iowa, so it probably wouldn't
take that much to get there either. They met, and

(39:17):
supposedly this is the news.

Speaker 3 (39:20):
Supposedly grant the meeting did not go well.

Speaker 1 (39:24):
The meeting didn't go well, and it was short. I
have no idea if this is real or not. It
ended pretty quickly when Iowa and Beth basically laid out like, hey,
we're gonna ask you to take what frans taking, or
maybe even a little less salary wise, and we kind
of want I don't know if this was said in

(39:45):
so many words, but it was implied like we'd like
you to give us the hometown discount, like the fact
that you would like this to be your job or
from Iowa, Like, can that get by us a little extra?
On the on the money side, I believe fran was
making three point four this last season. I think Darren
was making three at West Virginia for this past season,

(40:07):
so somewhere around that three to three and a half
million range. And it was reported earlier today that in
Indiana he got something like five or six seven. Yeah,
like really, dude, that's twice as much. And then you
factor in what Iowa had. This is the big factor.

Speaker 3 (40:23):
Wait, I didn't realize basketball coaches were getting paid just
as much as football.

Speaker 1 (40:27):
Coaches at Indiana they are.

Speaker 3 (40:29):
Geez, so you.

Speaker 1 (40:33):
Thank you, Hulk Guy Nate. Six degrees of separation with
Kevin Bacon is a thing.

Speaker 4 (40:37):
I'm glad. I'm not totally now we know what cluvers
real burner ish Nate.

Speaker 1 (40:45):
It turns out it's Hull Guy Nate. That's me. I'm
doing two things at once right now, and I'm having
a conversation with myself. So man, double the salary maybe more.

Speaker 3 (40:56):
Yeah, it's a decision. You just like we're talking earlier
with like nil and kids getting lured away for a
crap ton more money. It's like, it's not that.

Speaker 1 (41:07):
Not only that though. Yeah, from what I've heard, Darren
was okay with accepting less than he would potentially get
with another school.

Speaker 3 (41:15):
Yeah, but not.

Speaker 1 (41:17):
Definitely not half. And the next question is if it
was even remotely close, And I don't think it was,
so I don't even think he asked, or it sounds
like through this source that we have, he didn't really
get there. But if the question, like, all these coaches
are smart, they know that to be successful at a
lot of places, they're gonna need the support of the
nil how much money? What are my coffers going to

(41:40):
look like? keV, how much coins are you.

Speaker 3 (41:42):
Gonna give me?

Speaker 1 (41:44):
Iowa doesn't have shit for men's basketball right now. When
you compare it to the rest of the Big ten
or other big jobs that we're trying to compete with it,
we just don't. And Grant and I had a little
bit of this conversation the other day where I said,
we just need to jokingly but like, you know, five
percent serious. I was like, hey, we should probably just

(42:04):
scrap the men's program and just feed everything we have
basketball wise into the women's program, because that's where the
Golden Goose is right now, not literally, because men the
men's program is part of the revshare agreement, they have
the TV deal. They are a program that makes money.
But if you take that away, our women's program is
outpacing the men's over the last five years by far.

(42:27):
Obviously that's the Kitlin Clark effect.

Speaker 3 (42:29):
But in twenty twenty four, though, I guess twenty twenty four,
twenty twenty five season, academic year, whatever, are we contributing
more nl to the women's team than the men's team.

Speaker 1 (42:44):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (42:45):
Think I imagined that dollar goes a lot further on
the women's side.

Speaker 1 (42:48):
You would think you would think I would have to imagine.
I also don't.

Speaker 3 (42:53):
I do know obviously, Like you know, the fans who
donate to the swarm can choose which team they wanted
to go towards. That's true, yes, and you know, if
you're forking over a couple hundred bucks, and yeah, you
can divide it evenly between teams that you want, or
you know, if you're picking your favorite team. I don't
imagine the men's basketball team is the top team for

(43:16):
majority of Hawkeye fans, I'm telling you right now to
knock on the men's team or on the program whatsoever.
But you know, wrestling is always a national title contender. Yeah,
football is obviously the most popular sport in college, right
college athletics and then the women's team has been insanely

(43:36):
fun to watch the last handful of years.

Speaker 1 (43:37):
So the culture and the ecosystem that's been built around
the women's basketball team, Lisa Blueter, Caitlyn Clark, Kate Martin,
the whole thing, This ride that we've gone on, two
national championship appearances, the momentum that they have in recruiting,
the year that they had with Jan Jentsen, although nothing
special when you consider what they had to replace, a
Hall of fame coach, the best player to ever play

(44:00):
the sport, a couple of their supporting role players that
are ones in the also in the WNBA. The other
Gabby Marshall, was super elite or college basketball player that
you know, on the next level down of players that
don't make it professional. Hell of a season. We had
somebody just above up here say something like, I've got

(44:21):
a feeling that the women's team is gonna surprise and
maybe upset and like they have a chance to make
it to the Sweet sixteen in a year where it's
supposed to be a down year, it's supposed to be
a reload or a rebuild, And so do you take
that opportunity as Beth gets to say, Okay, it's not
often where you get the opportunity to be right in

(44:44):
the middle of a momentum shift of an entire program
in a sport that is gaining popularity. Do we go
all in which financially could look like matching the men's program.
I don't know what those figures are, Kevin, It's a
great question. I would love to know. Do you know
if you have if you've got four million dollars, do
you spend two on women's basketball and two on men's

(45:06):
if you're if you're Iowa. It's a question we have
to ask because it's a little bit of a fumble
if you let this women's momentum die, and it would
be very cool in my opinion. Maybe there's some people
out there that don't like women's sports. Still, I don't know,
it would be very cool. Do you spend do you

(45:28):
spend the money on the men's program to get them
back to the middle of the Big Ten. Maybe maybe,
just maybe, just.

Speaker 3 (45:34):
The same money could theoretically get you to the premiere
of women's basketball.

Speaker 1 (45:40):
You're a perennial top three in the Big Ten, a
perennial top five or ten in the country.

Speaker 3 (45:44):
You have, you have the choint and I think at
this point in time, most most fans would would choose that.
I could be wrong, but that's just kind of the
general vibe around Iowa sports world.

Speaker 1 (45:57):
Bias here, bias here, because I'm just like your average
fan that's just looking for the most entertaining thing. I'm
not a basketball guy. After football, knowing that it's gonna
get the majority of the money, I'm in that boat.
I'm saying, yeah, let's give it to women's basketball. Hawkeye
Thomas here says wrestling has their own nil and I'm
talking to you.

Speaker 3 (46:15):
But I mean the point was like, as a fan,
you can only donate to so many teams. Sorry, yes,
you still have the opportunity to wrestling. But CJ.

Speaker 1 (46:24):
Smith with a super chat gave us two bucks, two dollars.
Really enjoy the pod. Thanks guys, That'll go straight into
Grant's account. Any any super chats that are spent on
us will go straight to the grant donation fund and
I'll let him talk more.

Speaker 3 (46:39):
Two dollars. That's like four eggs, man, dude, that is
four eggs right there. That's a breakfast.

Speaker 1 (46:44):
Take yourself to Fairway or HIV, grab yourself some eggs.
It's way better than any nasty sandwich you're gonna get
from a gas station or a fast food place. Use
those two dollars on the IWAG council and their and
their mission to get you to eat more eggs. I like.
I love brown eggs too. By the way, brown eggs

(47:04):
make me feel like I'm just like on the farms
I see, I eat a lot of white eggs.

Speaker 3 (47:11):
I'm I'm strictly a pasture raised organic egg.

Speaker 1 (47:14):
Guy. Love that at you? I love that. Kevin's an
egg bitch.

Speaker 3 (47:19):
Yeah, my normal eggs or it's just too bad you
crack open a pasture raised organic egg. It's got a
nice orange yok ye color is the egg from the
hen that hasn't seen daylight in his entire life, and
the thing is like a pale yellow.

Speaker 1 (47:37):
It's different. It's different to a shout out to Ali
helping the kids out at the hospital getting all the
few extra perks on the on the side. Patreon member
just rejoined shout out to her again for anybody who
wants to follow suit, join the army up there in
the corner with that. So, yeah, I don't know what
the question is, keV. It's here's the deal. I don't

(48:00):
think that you can. I don't think that you can
have it all.

Speaker 3 (48:05):
To have it all requires all the money.

Speaker 1 (48:08):
Right, and Iowa doesn't have all the money. And even
with the rev share starting in June or July, whenever
that happens. I'm just saying, you can't have it all
at Iowa. You're gonna have to choose. Wrestling is gonna
get their money. That's an Iowa sport. That's our niche. Right. Minnesota,
they're gonna do hockey, right, They're gonna be the premier
hockey program in the country in the Big Ten. They're

(48:29):
trying to beat out Notre Dame.

Speaker 4 (48:30):
And the other high If my Denver Pioneers have anything
to do about it, that's for sure taking them down.

Speaker 1 (48:36):
You know, like Nebraska, they're gonna their niche sport is
gonna be volleyball. They're a volleyball powerhouse. They're gonna spend
a ton of money on volleyball. OURS currently after wrestling
and football, which is football is the thing for everybody.
Ours is women's basketball. Like we are grabbing onto that
as a university, as a fan base. That is where
we're at right now.

Speaker 3 (48:55):
Our track team has been really good.

Speaker 1 (48:57):
Our track has been elite. Do we have big ten champ.
It's all over the place, indoor and outdoor every year.

Speaker 3 (49:02):
Not sure what the NAO scene is in track right now.

Speaker 1 (49:05):
I don't think it's very good.

Speaker 4 (49:06):
I think it's I think it's exactly what you would
expect it to be. I think it's I think it's
exactly what it should be and what it should.

Speaker 1 (49:15):
I believe you're getting exactly how much you should be.
If any track athletes.

Speaker 4 (49:19):
Supporter, I'm a big, big supporter.

Speaker 1 (49:22):
J Smith. A lot of dogs out there, a lot
of c J Smith says. The brown eggs are the
chocolate ones, right, That is correct.

Speaker 3 (49:29):
The yes, in fact, right around the corner. Go get
yourself some brown eggs.

Speaker 1 (49:33):
If you are, go get some Cadbury caramel eggs. Bro
Oh dude, we need Cadbury as a sponsor. Here's the
other part of the U the insider info that Kevin
and I received earlier this morning. There's a group of
pro athletes that are incredibly frustrated with Beth slash Iowa. Again,

(49:55):
I don't know if this is true. This is what
we were sent decent source. Not going to say it's
one hundred percent, but it's a decent source. Group of
pro athletes or former pro athletes that are incredibly frustrated
with Beth and Iowa. They literally would like to help
with more money, but she will not take their calls
or money because she doesn't want to be influenced by them.

Speaker 3 (50:17):
Yeah. I don't get that, and it sounds like something
that's too weird to be true.

Speaker 4 (50:23):
I agree, what do you mean you won't accept a donation?

Speaker 1 (50:26):
So here's my thing. I don't think Beth is that dumb.
Maybe she is. Maybe she proves to be that stubborn
and she's like, you know what, I don't want to
be bought out. And I can respect the sentiment. But
the problem is is if you've got a job, it's
kind of the job.

Speaker 3 (50:45):
You are being money for your athletics program.

Speaker 1 (50:49):
If you can find any large sums of cash, especially
if people are trying to call you and send it
to you, like, please take my money. Hear them out,
have a commerce with them, appease them a little bit. Oh, yeah,
you'd love it to go here, you'd oh, you want
to put a little here. Yeah, we're going to work
on that. Her job is to schmooz those people legitimately,

(51:10):
authentically tell them, yes, we are going to work on this.
We're going to send your money and use it in
the right place, and then make sure that that money
is divvied out and spent wisely. I don't think Beth
is that dumb, especially at Iowa, where you're not just
swimming in cash. You aren't Ohio State, you aren't Texas.
There is an oil money coming in from every you know,
every landowner within three hundred miles, right.

Speaker 4 (51:34):
We're working on that. Subscribed to the Patreon. We'll get that.
We'll fix that problem real quickly.

Speaker 3 (51:38):
Yeah, I mean we get we get natural gas exploration
in the state of Iowa with that money, if we
could get if we could get sponsored by someone who.

Speaker 4 (51:47):
Oh you thought that shovel and time wasn't about digging
for oil, That's what you thought it was about something else.

Speaker 1 (51:52):
You thought Drake was going to bury bodies. No, we're
digging for liquid gold.

Speaker 4 (51:56):
My friend, it's about fracking.

Speaker 1 (51:59):
We're in a pipeline and it's going straight to die
with city my friend.

Speaker 4 (52:03):
Who is who is the source?

Speaker 1 (52:06):
Oh? Yeah, I can't tell you that.

Speaker 4 (52:08):
You can't tell me.

Speaker 3 (52:09):
I tell you.

Speaker 1 (52:10):
I can tell you after.

Speaker 3 (52:11):
Send me, send me a text right now.

Speaker 4 (52:12):
Who it is?

Speaker 1 (52:12):
I'll go private chat in context.

Speaker 4 (52:14):
Don't even go private chat. Write it down on a
sticky out.

Speaker 1 (52:17):
I put it in the private chat. Okay, Oh, decent source? Right, Yeah,
So here's my thing, keV. I just differently, by the way,
I don't think that, man. I I just don't think
that you would ever. I don't think anybody in an

(52:38):
ad situation would ever turn down money. So I don't
believe that.

Speaker 3 (52:43):
Yeah, I don't know. I don't know.

Speaker 1 (52:45):
I will say this. I think I think, uh, for
people that maybe sway towards the men's basketball program or
care more about the men's basketball program, or even the
wrestling program or the football program. I think some short
sighted people who aren't bought in on the women's basketball
team or think that the Kaitlyn Clark effect will fade

(53:07):
and our program will go back to just being what
it was before, which was pretty good when we were
with Megan gust of Sin and all. You know. For
the last decade fifteen, basically, we've had a good program.
I think Beth is committed to spending more on women's basketball,
and I heard that all the way back when she
sat down with Chad Leistiko on a quick podcast. She

(53:28):
is committed to being at the top of spending and
on the front lines of women's basketball and the recruiting
momentum that they have. And so that may make people mad.
I don't know. Those who want more money shovel to
the men's program are probably going to have a little
bit of a beef with that, because you're pulling from
the same pot. It is what it is again. You're
going to have to choose. You can't have you can't

(53:50):
be Ohio State. You can't spend unlimited money on the
football program and the basketball program, and the women's basketball program,
and the wrestling program, and the baseball team and the
swimmer like it just at some point it runs out.
Some point it runs out, So you gotta choose. You
make your choice. I choose Grant Allen. That's who I

(54:12):
choose to lead our basketball to lead our basketball program
back to the time.

Speaker 4 (54:16):
Needs a decision maker. Give me the call, all right,
I will not even bat night. I will sign the checks.

Speaker 1 (54:21):
The quote I work the money you can buy me.

Speaker 4 (54:24):
You can buy my brain. Yeah, if you want to.

Speaker 1 (54:27):
You want a player, you had me, but you said
we're not going to the tournament and neither of you.

Speaker 2 (54:32):
Neither you.

Speaker 1 (54:33):
I just I love that Alice is Cadbury is trash,
and that is wild. I love Cadbury ruly. Seventy three
here says, have you guys heard anything about the new
running backs coach or offensive advisor? So the new offensive
advisor would be Warren Jerio or Riugerio out of wake Forest,
correct grant?

Speaker 4 (54:53):
Yeah no, and this is a posted my analysis. I
went deep into the film room after U sure we
have he was announced. I saw two highlights from wake
Forest look pretty cool, So I agree to the hier
In a mins, I thought it was good. I thought
they did a good job.

Speaker 1 (55:09):
So there's your there's your analysis on Warren and the
offensive analyst position. I would go to, I'm not no
shame here. I will send you to other brands, other
podcasts that know more. I would highly suggest the Iowa
Everywhere Legends and Listeners podcasts where Chad Leistiko and Scott
Doctorman go a little bit more in depth than that.
I know Grant's analysis was pretty thorough. Theirs was as well.

(55:30):
You might want to hear what they have to say
about that. I think they had good thoughts. And on
the other side, Omar what's his name? Omar Young is
the new running backs coach. I know nothing about him,
but if coach Ference allowed him to be on his staff,
and again, call me a Ference homer, call me the
Farence apologist. If coach Ferrence hired this guy to be

(55:53):
on his staff, I number one know he's a great person,
and number two have a pretty good confidence that he's
going to be able to get it done as a
football coach.

Speaker 3 (56:02):
Yeah, mostly NFL guy recently experienced. I think he's coming
off his tenure with the Bears.

Speaker 1 (56:12):
I believe so. Yeah, he was.

Speaker 4 (56:16):
It looks like he might.

Speaker 3 (56:17):
I don't know if I want to say this or not.
It might be a controversial take. Running backs coach might
be the least important coach.

Speaker 1 (56:25):
I was just gonna say, can't controversial.

Speaker 4 (56:27):
Clearly just wanted to He clearly just said he wanted
to cancel the men's basketball program ten minutes ago. Can't
be more converse.

Speaker 1 (56:35):
We're going to rename this podcast cancel the men's program.
Running backs coach is the easiest position to coach in football.
It might be true.

Speaker 4 (56:43):
Well, now you get on. Now we gotta apologize to
our former guest.

Speaker 1 (56:47):
Goeb here says, can you confirm or deny if Drake
is alive? And I can't. I actually can't. He was
alive two hours ago, but it you know, his life
is pretty volatile and things could go either way. It's
a it's a fast moving, fast pace over there in
the Kulick in the Kolick world, So I don't know.
I don't know currently.

Speaker 3 (57:07):
We did give a snapchat about forty five minutes ago.

Speaker 1 (57:10):
Okay, that's good.

Speaker 3 (57:11):
He was not in the snapchat, but it came from
his phone, so it was from his certain evidence that
he is alive, but nothing concrete.

Speaker 4 (57:18):
Someone's posing it's fick.

Speaker 1 (57:19):
Well, it was a very great Kolik snapchat. There was
paraphernalia in the snapchat, so I think it was him.
So he's at least alive for today. That's about all
I got. I think, you know, on the Ben on
the men's basketball coaching situation. Ben McCullum is now your guy,
at least that's what everybody wants. I think that's a
great hire. He was born in Iowa City. If we
can get him. The problem that I see there is

(57:41):
if Devrees came to town, talked with Beth and saw
those issues, how many more coaches are gonna be like,
why didn't he take the job? You know what's the
issue here?

Speaker 4 (57:50):
Yeah, we need a different pitch for the next interview.

Speaker 1 (57:53):
We're gonna get. We're going to get to the same
issue with all these coaches. I need this to be
able to succeed, and I don't know if we have
this right now, So we might have to get a
guy that is has a little bit less demand, and
I think McCollum has a lot of demand, especially if
tomorrow I'm not sure when Drake plays, if it's Tomorrow
or Friday, and then if they win that game tomorrow

(58:14):
and then Saturday, if they're able to win one or
two games in this tournament, that boy McCollum's price just
went up. And I don't know if we have it.
I don't know if we have the bills, No We.

Speaker 4 (58:23):
Got to interview. We got to get more candidates out there.
We can't just have one guy and that's it too.
I want to interview more. Like get Yale's coach on
the phone. He's a great coach. He's got multiple upsets
in his career. He price can't be that.

Speaker 1 (58:38):
Crazy either, knew. I am imagine coach Roy Williams him better.
Y Williams one good year. We need one.

Speaker 4 (58:47):
That was my next one, after the Ghost of lu Carnoseca.

Speaker 1 (58:50):
So how about how about how about this one?

Speaker 3 (58:53):
Jeff Roy Williams ruined the childhood day for me. I
went to I was an Illinois fan growing up, and
I went down to Saint Louis to watch the Illinois
fighting line. I played the North Carolina tar Heels for
the two thousand and five national title.

Speaker 1 (59:08):
Oh sick, Yeah, it was sick.

Speaker 3 (59:11):
Illinois lost by five.

Speaker 1 (59:13):
Oh it's a good game, though.

Speaker 3 (59:15):
It was a great game.

Speaker 1 (59:16):
Man's that's a memory you'll have forever.

Speaker 4 (59:19):
Was there a TV shot or a cut to you
and you're just crying in the stands because Illinois lost?

Speaker 1 (59:22):
It was Kevin surrender Cobra.

Speaker 3 (59:24):
Yeah, yeah, that poor Northwestern kid that got caught crying
on TV. That was That was me in two thousand
and five.

Speaker 1 (59:33):
Ah tough, all right, you guys got anything else for
me before we hit it the live as you always do.

Speaker 4 (59:39):
A bracket, you do your brackets.

Speaker 3 (59:41):
No, I did make a bracket.

Speaker 4 (59:44):
How did you not make a bracket? But you have
a bracket league?

Speaker 3 (59:46):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (59:46):
I had, dude, brother, I haven't had time. I haven't
had time. I'm doing it tonight or tomorrow morning before
it kicks off. I promise I'll get it in. Oh
by the way, if you're listening to this on Thursday
morning or you you watch tonight, you're still here and
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