March 31, 2025 • 55 mins
In this episode of the Washup Walk-ons the discussion kicks off with some housekeeping items and excitement around Iowa basketball, particularly the hiring of Ben McCollum. The hosts share their thoughts on McCollum's fit, his first press conference, and the unique tie tradition he's bringing to Iowa City. They also introduce new merchandise celebrating McCollum's style. Moving on to football, they cover spring football updates, the return of familiar names in special teams, and the strength of the defensive and offensive linemen. The episode highlights Ben Kueter's dual-sport journey, player departures like John Nestor and Max White, and the crucial adjustments needed in the wide receiver position. With engaging insights on roster management and updates on player performance, this episode provides a comprehensive look at the current state of Iowa's athletic programs.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
The most entertaining IOWA podcast on the market. You found
a conversation between Kevin and I where we are going
to break down Spring Bowl, a KF Spring presser, some
of the biggest storylines going into these five weeks of
developmental football. We also give our opinions on them. Callum Higher.
Not a basketball podcast, but fun and exciting to talk about,
and plenty of other topics as well. Welcome to the show,
(00:21):
Sit back, relaxed, Let's have a day, Let's go. Welcome
(00:53):
in to the Washup walk Ons. If you're on the YouTube,
you can see one person. That's just me. If you're listening,
it is currently just me in the studio right now.
Kevin will be joining us shortly, at least that's what
he told me. Gonna jump on myself. Don't worry if
you're a I hate Tyler Klover guy. I come for
the other people. I come for the guests. I come
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for the information of the conversation. You'll get that in
a second. I'm gonna start this off with a couple
bookkeeping housekeeping items. Kevin will jump in. We're going to
podcast about a lot of things today, several things. This
is in a basketball podcast, However, a lot of basketball
hype excitement in the state around the University of Iowa
(01:36):
this week. As Ben McColm has officially I guess last week,
as you're hearing this, this is old news. I know
people are gonna be like, hey, you can't talk about
it's old news. By the time you get to it.
Don't talk about it. I've already heard all this stuff.
Don't care, because that's how this podcast works. Still relevant. Okay,
we're going to talk about the McCollum Higher and just
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my opinion of it as a former athlete of the
universe that has nothing to do with basketball. I think
it's very fun and exciting. There's people who, you know,
had their opinions about Fran needs to go, he could stay.
All this different stuff. It's done and over with, and
I think the best thing from my perspective on this,
and I hope that it goes this way with football
as well, when the time comes, is that things are
(02:19):
done quickly, things are transparent, and you get the guy
you want and it feels like that's what they've done.
Beth Getz feels like that's what she's done. I know
there's a lot back and forth about the Devreese stuff.
He went to Indiana made it easy. McCollum could have
been the first choice. Who knows. Regardless the gold tie
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and white T shirt. Come to Iowa City and I'll
show Kevin here in a second. I'll show the rest
of you here in a second on the YouTube. If
he jumps in. We got a little merch piece coming
down the line. You can have your Hawks by a
million Ben McCullum tie T shirt in Carver, Hawkeye next year.
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We can deck the place out. I think it would
be very cool. Yes, we're just hopping on the bandwagon.
We're like just like ray Gun does. We're just trying
to jump on the other people's stuff and sell merch
to effect in it. So we'll show that in the
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That takes you to ten. And when you get to
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extra six hundred thousand downloads of our podcast, So shout
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keep a running tally of the total number of downloads
as close as I can get, because we have shifted
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a significant boost over half a million that I just
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Moving forward from that, we're going to talk a little
bit about oh, one last thing on the basketball. It's
very cool that Bennett Startz is coming. I think it's
going to be electric to see that kid in the
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black and gold. McCollum's opening press conference, which I think
he killed and everybody kind of saying this like a
plus grand slam knocked the press conference out of the park.
I think he really did. I don't think it's hard
to do. You stand up and you tell the people
what they want to hear. But I think he did
that in a really authentic way. And I think you
can here through his opening statement and the questions that
(08:04):
he answered the authenticity around him being the coach in
Iowa City. He was obviously born there. It feels great
for him. And you can hear this through the enthusiasm
that he talked about the team and the city with
and the fans. It feels good. It feels like a
different kind of sense of pride for him to lead
this program. There's x's and o's that you could get
(08:25):
into if this was a basketball podcast. But he's a
defensive guy. He is a guy who is going to
work on efficiency. Hey, are we saying some buzzwords here
that maybe sound a little bit familiar. Yeah. As I
listened to this thing, all I'm thinking is this is
like a modern chaof He doesn't have the exact cadence
and sort of you know, it comes across differently, but
(08:46):
the message that's coming from KF's playbook Baby, Efficiency and Defense.
Oh talk about culture. He says, you don't build culture,
you recruited is essentially what he said, you by the
people that you bring in that creates your culture. You're
not going to bring in five star talent of kids
who are entitled and they think everything should be given
(09:08):
to them and they don't have to work hard, and
then build the culture from them. No, you might find
a couple five stars are really talented guys who already
have what you're looking for intangibly, but you're going to
build that culture from the inside out. And actually Kevin
joins the show here get him.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
Yeah, sorry for me and.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
Late all good. I was just I was just rolling
on Ben McCollum and the similarities. I don't know if
you got to see any of his opening press commerce
you're not a big basketball guy.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
Unfortunately I did not, But I've heard nothing but great
things about everything he said.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
Yeah, I mean, he knocked it out of the park.
And dude, as I listened to him, man, it just
sounded a lot like it was coming from the KF playbook.
I mean it was a he talked about, well, first
of all, his mentality when it comes to the x's
and o's and sort of the FA philosophy set of basketball.
He's an efficiency guy and a defensive guy. I mean,
(10:05):
I mean, come on now, sorry.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
We are we talking about defense? Special teams and make
the plays on an offense.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
Absolutely absolutely. I mean there was a wild stat this
year that they kept showing in the tournament, and it
was points scored with five or less seconds on the
play clock. And Drake led the country by over one
hundred points in that with like three hundred and fifty
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and the next team had like two hundred and fifty.
So it's just like they they really try to milk
the offensive side of the ball. They try to get
good shots. They do not commit turnovers. Like it's a
slower paced game because they're using the entire play clock
shot clock, but.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
A lower pace, but theoretically the game actually goes.
Speaker 1 (10:55):
Faster, right Yeah, less turnovers, less stoppage of play. You're
looking at it in a way that's like, hey, we're
trying to control the ball. We're trying to control time
of possession here, right, like the way they talk about
Ben McCollum is is you're going to play his style
of basketball.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
He's not gonna let you play to your strengths.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
Huh. I agree, Like Grant said, were you on here?
When Grant was like, we're not gonna we're not going
to go to the tournament and neither are you because
because because we're going to control the way you play
it literally is the way. It's a very similar style.
Oddly enough, Ben McCollum accepts this job Kevin at forty
three years old, which is the same young bright age
(11:41):
that Keef accepted the job back in nineteen ninety nine.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
So so you're saying if he's not there for the
next twenty six years, he's a failure.
Speaker 1 (11:51):
I'm not saying that because it's sort of an interesting
thing there because you think about it and you're like, Okay,
what's I heard? The IOWA Everywhere guys with another just
another podcast kind of say it this way. They're like, Okay,
as a Drake fan, what did you want? Right? This
was the best case scenario. You wanted him to do
as good as you can, Like, you want Drake to succeed, right,
he just did it. So well that in one year
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his price went up at Iowa. It's almost the same thing. Like,
if he does so well, and I don't think it's
a one year turnaround of Iowa basketball, gonna be a
little bit more tough than that, right, But if he
does so well that in five years or six years
when his contract is up. I think they said his
contract is six years three point three a year.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
I mean, coaches contracts, that's just you're just telling them
how much money he's getting paid.
Speaker 1 (12:40):
Contracts are useless, now, dude, there, Yeah, it's if he's
getting fired, he's getting paid that regardless, and if somebody
else wants to hire him, they're going to buy him out.
They're paying it regardless. It's amazing. If you're a coach,
it's a great time. It's great. But really, like in
five years, if he's that good and he's like, okay,
this guy is now in line for the I mean,
(13:01):
Duke has a relatively young coach, but like one of
those blue bloods, right and they come for him. Maybe
gonna be sad for Iowa fans, but he's going to
leave that program in a great spot. If that is
the case. Well, I can.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
See if that you know, back early in KF's tenure,
like a lot of NFL teams came calling for him
to come be their head coach. I can see that
if he were to take Iowa basketball and elevate him
to the level where he's a name for those big
jobs and he buzz around the program is a lot
(13:37):
higher than it's been these last couple of years. I
can see Iowa stepping up to pay him. I mean,
not as much as some of those programs, but enough
for an Iowa City, homegrown guy to want to, you know,
stay around.
Speaker 1 (13:51):
The university and donors and the fan support would certainly
be levels above where it currently sits at that point. Yes,
he sort of alluded to that too. Somebody asked him
his recruiting pitch, why Iowa, right, Like, if you're a
player in the portal right now, you just hopped in
from another school, why would you come to the Iowhawk guys,
And he said, like to open that quite the answer
(14:14):
to that question, He's like, I don't know, I think
I was pretty special, Like I think this is a
place where you know, that sounds like cliche, but I
think it's if you're rolling and you're doing good things.
This is a place that will support you and the players.
So I think you're right there. I hope that's the case.
I would love to see it. You and I aren't
basketball guys. We don't watch a little bit a lot
(14:34):
of basketball, but when it's fun to have the university
and the sports teams of your alma mater do well.
And I tweeted these like two days ago, I'm like,
I don't even I watched forty minutes of basketball combined
this year. But this Ben McCullum higher has me fully tended.
I'm excited because everybody else is excited. Have you seen
(14:54):
his wardrobe, by the way, Like he's a suit guy, right, uh,
shirt and tie, shirt and tie signature. Look, he would
wear the white shirt with a royal blue tie for
every single game. And the fans and the students that
Drake started to they started to adopt that. So they
were they would wear white T shirts or even white
button down T shirts or button up T shirts with
(15:16):
a blue tie. They'd come to the game like that.
Old guys in the stands are wearing that to the game.
So obviously you adopt that. To Iowa City, Let's get
this man a gold tie, right, and then you know
there's a couple of people who are like, hey, we
probably need to probably need to get something going for this,
so keV, we already have something in the works here.
(15:37):
Let me just show you a little something coming down
the pipe.
Speaker 2 (15:41):
I love it.
Speaker 1 (15:42):
We got we got the Ben McCollum tie T shirt
coming to a place very near you very soon and
the Hawks by a million will be on the sleeve.
That will be in black though, I that's going to
be in black just to give a little better contrast.
But that is going to be available very soon. If
you're watching the YouTube as we run this back shirt, yeah,
(16:04):
I will be getting one of these. And I hope
that we can fill Carver Hawkeye with this T shirt
right here. I really do not only could we support
Ben McCollum in his first year and put an incredible
look to Carver. Hopefully we'll be much more full than
it has been as of recent times. But with the
purchase of these T shirts, obviously you're going to be
(16:25):
helping out UI Children's with our fifty percent going to them.
So you know, it's exciting times around the around the
basketball basketball stuff.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
Watch me Tallady Knights.
Speaker 1 (16:37):
Yeah, a long time ago. I haven't seen it in
a very long time.
Speaker 2 (16:40):
There's a scene in there where they're talking about, you know,
like how they like to imagine Jesus, and one of
the guys is like, I like to picture Jesus in
a tuxedo T shirt.
Speaker 1 (16:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
It's like I want to be formal, but I'm here
at a party.
Speaker 1 (16:55):
That could be Ben McCallum. He said the words we
need to get it lit up in there like he's
he's uh, he seems to be the best guy for
the job, and uh, hey, no, you can never do
better than when you haven't.
Speaker 2 (17:08):
Played a game yet, right, So the most popular he'll
ever I don't know about.
Speaker 1 (17:13):
Ever be but damn close, damn close. We're gonna get
to Uh we're gonna into some football here because football
is spring. Football's here, keV.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
I'm feel sorry for those guys.
Speaker 1 (17:25):
Yeah, it's a tough one. It is a tough one.
One of the one of the sentences k If said
today in his press conference was it is a time
of pure developmental period. I was like, oh is it.
That is tough for the young bucks, But hey, you
gotta be forged through fire a little bit. You got
(17:45):
you gotta you gotta encounter a little resistance to uh,
to elevate your game. A lot of good stuff in
a thirty seven minute press conference. If I was a
good podcaster or this was a good show at all,
I would have the clips and that I'd play the
clip and then we talk about it. I'm gonna have
to describe that to Kevin because I know he didn't
watch that either. Started with special teams. Love that said
he's very confident about having his punter and restaken and
(18:08):
his kicker back. We love that Special Teams. He did
finish with the fact that we're we're gonna have a
new long snapper this year. Put a little joke in
it there at the end, But you know, he said,
this is a time and I this is immediately I
thought of you. He said, this is a time where
(18:28):
guys pretty much should grow in the classroom just as
much as they grow on the field. And I is
it fifty to fifty like that? What's your opinion on
that for spring ball?
Speaker 2 (18:38):
Yeah, especially young guys. Is like, if you think about
guys who were true freshman last year, you got thrown
into three weeks of camp. I guess it's two weeks
now or whatever. Yeah, fifteen used to be where they
threw the entire let's just stick with the defensive player.
They threw the entire defense at you weeks. Right by
(19:01):
day three, it's over your head and they're just installing it.
For the older guys, you're just trying to follow long
as best you can. And at the end of those
two weeks, guess what, we're into game prep. You're on
a scout team now, and you don't come back to
your playbook again until right now. And this is a
time where they take they have long meetings, long classroom
(19:22):
meetings to really go slowly and make sure that everyone
is getting up to speed on the ins and outs
of the of the defense or the offense.
Speaker 1 (19:34):
It was an interesting statement to me just because I
so for me personally, obviously, there wasn't a lot of
growing in the classroom to do in the meeting room,
right that playbook was thick, but it I didn't your
section of it was quite thin. It was. It was
pretty thin relatively, So I just know how much these guys,
especially like you said, the young guys grow physically. And
(19:57):
we're going to talk about some physical feats happening in
the weight room here in a second Jesus, but man
as much as on the class on the meeting room side.
And I guess that is true. And obviously the guys
who can make the biggest jumps are gonna well, those
guys are going to be the ones who impact on
the field. Obviously asked about Mark Gronowski and his surgery,
(20:19):
his recovery, their first impressions of him, he's been around
for two months. What they're thinking about Mark? He said,
interesting way to answer the question. He feels like they
know more and feel more comfortable with who Mark Gronowski
is as a football player than they do about any
other quarterback on their roster. And that's because one of
the roster the quarterback room turnover in just the last
(20:41):
year since Lester's come. Sullivan has not been here for
a full year. Hank has not been here for a
full year. I think there's a couple other guys that
are like, have no experience or have just joined recently.
This is a complete this is Tim Lester's quarterback room.
And because Gronowski has played like fifty games, over fifty
games at South Dakota State, they're literally like, we know
(21:04):
what we're getting with Mark, and I just that's a
really weird spot to be. They also feel like he
is smarter. He said this tongue in cheek, but he's like,
I think he's smarter than all the coaches combined. We
love to hear that, he said, he's Dean's list mechanical engineering.
Speaker 2 (21:22):
That's what That's exactly what you want from your quarterback.
Speaker 1 (21:25):
I just love to hear that.
Speaker 2 (21:26):
You love that from your quarterback.
Speaker 1 (21:27):
Oh, Dean's list, mechanical engineering. I was two point seven
GPA health and human physiology. Just completely different stratospheres between
me and Mark Gronowski. As a as an intellectual, you
want your quarterback to be smart. You'd love for him
to have experience. You'd love for him to be a leader.
You'd love for him to know how to win. This
(21:49):
guy checks all the boxes. And the way that coach
Ference talks about him makes me feel good. And I
can't explain why, but Kevin, you would understand why if
you heard the press conference as well. They're confident in
Gronowski now as far as where he's at recovery, Wise,
said he's a little bit ahead of schedule and that
in the next couple of weeks as they're out on
the field, he will start throwing lightly. So not bet
(22:13):
that's good, that's good. I mean it's better than him
starting in the summer. Right, It's as good as we're
gonna get right now. Very excited about Leicester's second year,
and he basically said that word for word. He said
everybody is said it should be a little bit easier
to digest. As far as learning the playbook, you mentioned
(22:34):
a lot of things were putting quickly last year starting
in the spring, a lot of new guys that didn't
have a lot of time with it. They're a full
year into that now. It's also a time for coach
Tim Lester to iron out things he wasn't able to
put in last year. He wasn't able to get in. Also,
we didn't have a great passing offense last year, and
(22:55):
when they got into the season, they kind of just
were like, Okay, we're going to figure out how to
run the ball really well and we'll do that. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (23:01):
You know, it probably got to the point where it's like, Eh,
we're good at this, and let's just focus on being
good at what we're good at. Yeah, Well, just kind
of go from.
Speaker 1 (23:11):
There, great idea worked really well. Problem is is eventually
you got to put the full thing together right and
so now they finally have that again. One of those
things where you listen to KF he's not going to
bullshit you very often. He said. They're excited about it,
so good stuff. Talked about the two new coaches, well,
one's an official coach, one is an analyst, but they're
(23:34):
the same goddamn thing in my mind. That through a
backhanded compliment to the Warren Riggio Grigario guy about how
wake Forest just does not have a lot of support
for the football program but he was able to do
great things for them down there. Talked about his role
a little bit and how in game week he's kind
of gonn to be the guy who gets ahead, and
(23:57):
Sunday is sort of like ultra prepared and giving tim
Lester kind of the tools he needs to start working
on the next week right away. And this guy's supposed
to be like pretty good a football mind on the
offensive side of the ball. So then you add that
to then he's feeding tim Lester sort of the base
(24:17):
of what they need to start the next week. I
really like I really like that, And he said that
they had three guys as far as this Omar young
running backs coach, three guys that they felt really good
about hiring, and this Omar guy kind of separated himself
through the interview process and so you know, they they
don't take those things lightly. And if if KF is
(24:38):
hiring him, I feel like he's probably a great person
and knows a lot about football.
Speaker 2 (24:42):
Yeah, totally totally agree.
Speaker 1 (24:44):
Have you seen any of the Twitter clips of Brian
from Fresno State. No, They've they've been putting out some
content of him in like team like indie period and
stuff over there. Yeah, it's cool to see him coach,
like in a different spot. It's just cool to hear
him again.
Speaker 2 (25:01):
That's good. I'm glad for him.
Speaker 1 (25:05):
Yeah, there the Elon and the the the X algorithm
knows what they're doing, because like I don't follow any
Fresno State people, but their stuff will show up in
my timeline. So yeah, the seems like on the coaching side,
they've they've got uh stuff figured out there. Uh he
got asked about Keeter. Ben Keeter just did print well,
(25:26):
just pretty well and.
Speaker 2 (25:27):
Put a tweet out there that it's back to football.
Speaker 1 (25:31):
What is this guy doing He's I love it. Come
play football, man, come be great. But guys just like
all right, wrestling, okay, football, okay, just kidding, wrestling, okay. Football.
We talked about, I think once or twice, how it's
really hard to be great at both the performance he
just put out on the wrestling Matt, I mean American,
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all American. It's hard to do, especially in the and
then and then kaf just shows off his knowledge of
like he just starts rattling off, like his knowledge of
the heavyweight weight class in wrestling. It's like, yeah, there's
some there's you know, the three guys at the top
of that weight class. They're gonna be moving on and
like they kind of dominated this year. I think he said.
I think he described Gable as having being in his
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like tenth year.
Speaker 2 (26:17):
He's been there a long time.
Speaker 1 (26:18):
He has been there a long time.
Speaker 2 (26:19):
Well I guess, I mean, was he all for two years?
Speaker 1 (26:22):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (26:22):
It feels like he's been there for ten years.
Speaker 1 (26:24):
Have you seen that aj Ferrari kid. Yeah, he's I
think taking like a red shirt, a medical red shirt.
He's already taken Olympic red shirt and a true red shirt.
He's he's gonna have like eight years of eligibility in wrestling.
He's got like three years of eligibility left.
Speaker 2 (26:42):
He's a piece, He's a piece of work.
Speaker 1 (26:46):
You and him are like, uh, the exact opposites of
each other as a human.
Speaker 2 (26:50):
Yeah, yeah, he would.
Speaker 1 (26:52):
Yeah, I would love to say that would have been.
Speaker 2 (26:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (26:56):
I would love to see you do a split on
a mat and double bird everybody in the crowd out.
Speaker 2 (27:02):
I don't think I could physically do any of those things.
Speaker 1 (27:05):
I know you can't. I would like to see you
try interesting with Keeter, because kid just loves football and
loves wrestling, like he just wants to do both. You
would think with the guys graduating at the top of
that wrestling weight class, legitimate shot to go and like
try and win a Natty next year. Like if not
next year, I mean he's got a couple of years left.
Speaker 2 (27:25):
So yeah, you know, I've always heard like if he
wants to be like great at something, wrestling to the sport,
but yeah, football's awesome.
Speaker 1 (27:37):
So well, here's the thing is, like the knock on
him this year on the mat from what I see
from the outside, is that he just he's not enough weight.
He wasn't big enough. And Okay, so the idea there
is maybe he was smaller, he just hasn't had time
to put on size. He's trying to play linebacker at
the University of Iowa. Does he move to the defensive end?
Speaker 2 (28:00):
I mean I can see he's got the link. I
think right, he's absolutely three taw r.
Speaker 1 (28:05):
Yeah, six four. Maybe does he just move to defensive end?
Be a real athletic en type guy, then you can
play it to sixty to seventy. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (28:14):
Probably just just be like a third down specialist, just
rushing the edge. Guy knows how to use his hands
well obviously, I mean lyas rush moves no problem.
Speaker 1 (28:26):
I mean aj Eppie had literally made his name as
like a third down guy. Like he's playing half half
the reps on the d line his junior season.
Speaker 2 (28:38):
Like junior he was, he was a four down guy.
Speaker 1 (28:41):
Okay, I guess maybe his soft his.
Speaker 2 (28:43):
His uh his freshman year like he that's all I
did was thirty Yeah.
Speaker 1 (28:48):
Yeah, I mean it makes the most sense if if
he was going to try and do both that he
needs to find a he needs to find a position
in football where he can weigh what he's going to
Wayne wrestling, because you are not going to play at
two thirty to thirty five at linebacker and then in
that amount of time at the end of football season
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try and put on twenty or thirty pounds and be
at the right wrestling weight to handle those top guys.
You're just not going to do it. By the way,
the fucking guy who's in Air Force, like he's from
the Air Force and he saluted Donald Trump after he
beat Gable? Is that not the sickest moment in wrestling history.
Speaker 2 (29:26):
Yeah, that was probably a pretty cool moment for that kid.
Speaker 1 (29:30):
Unbelievable.
Speaker 2 (29:32):
Yeah, that was a That was a crazy match. I
mean it was just supposed to be chalked up. Gable
wins is another natty And you know, the last thirty
seconds of that match were incredible.
Speaker 1 (29:43):
It's a bigger upset than Spencer last year. Yeah, probably, dude,
Olympic gold medalist.
Speaker 2 (29:50):
I mean, the only the only thing is that you know,
Spencer got pinned.
Speaker 1 (29:53):
True, yeah, true, But dude, Yeah, it's crazy to me
how even the best you just get caught wrong, just
get caught.
Speaker 2 (30:01):
Yeah, oh dude, I mean that's that's the thing about wrestling,
is like every second you're on the mat.
Speaker 1 (30:06):
You have to be on it brutal.
Speaker 2 (30:08):
Like a football game, like, yeah, some guy can miss
one assignment for one play and you know, maybe it's
a touchdown. Guess what, you can still still come back
from that. Yeah, you know, maybe that's the difference in
the game. Maybe it's not, but you still come back
from that. Wrestling, you get caught once, like.
Speaker 1 (30:24):
You're in trouble matches over, you get pinned, you're done.
Speaker 2 (30:28):
Yeah. What did KAF say about Ben? Because I mean,
obviously he's a talented kid. We can find somewhere to
put him on the field.
Speaker 1 (30:35):
Didn't talk much about the x's and o's or the positionally,
he just said that he has not talked to Ben yet.
He's had some conversations with Wallace, and they're going to
give him two to three weeks to just rest and chill,
so he is not expected to come back and be
in springball immediate Here. Smart wrestling is grueling, and Kaef
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said that and his body some rests.
Speaker 2 (31:00):
So I think we talked about it in one podcast,
like back when he was trying to do both. It's
like we're like going through his schedules, like and then
he's going to go through nationals and then springball starts
like the next week. Yeah, so that that would be
absolutely insane.
Speaker 1 (31:15):
Yeah, that would be really rough. So good, it's great
that they're working with him. I don't think you'll see
much from him this spring. Anybody listening to this podcast,
don't expect any Ben Keeter updates. As far as you
know what he's looking like on the football field, it'll
be positive to hear, you know, him progressing through the summer,
and then Camp will be big, like can Keeter make
a push for Camp to play significant time and roll
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this fall? How many eggs do you think he eats?
Speaker 2 (31:43):
Oh? How much does he weighed? Two fifty?
Speaker 1 (31:46):
Yeah, somewhere around there.
Speaker 2 (31:48):
I imagine he's at least a half a dozen a day.
Speaker 1 (31:50):
Type of guy you would think, right like, I'm thinking
about that Hendrickson guy or even Gable Steves. I mean,
those heavyweights are pounding eggs.
Speaker 2 (31:57):
Dude, totally totally. Who was Oh man, what's I'm trying
to blank our heavyweight? A couple of years ago he
uh uh Casio Casiopie. Yeah, I think he publicly said
that he was eating like twelve eggs a day.
Speaker 1 (32:13):
Some of those guys you know bodybuilders too. Like the
way they'll do it is they'll just blend it in
the morning shake and they'll just take it straight like that,
just raw eggs.
Speaker 2 (32:24):
Throw some chicken breast in there too, which.
Speaker 1 (32:26):
Yeah, just make it the Logan the Logan Lee shake.
That That is one of the crazier stories or tidbits
we've ever gotten out of somebody. Uh, Logan Lee is
huge on eggs. I bet we should. We should call
him up and ask how many eggs he's He's probably
he's holding up the Iowa egg found just the foundation
of the Iowa egg industry. Probably.
Speaker 2 (32:47):
Well, I'd be curious to see, Like, do you think
it's like in the it's like an eighty twenty thing,
like twenty percent of the people eat eighty percent of
the eggs.
Speaker 1 (32:56):
Absolutely, yeah. I think the people who understand and from
the fitness and health side of what I do, I
do think that protein and the importance of protein and
muscle mass is becoming more mainstream. Obviously for guys like
you and me kind of well known if you're an
athlete like you gotta eat a lot of protein, But
for your everyday person, like the whole joke is like
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you do not know how much protein you need, Like
you it's a job to eat enough protein, and eggs
are a great way to do it. Six grams of
protein per egg. It's just hard to beat. And there's
so many delicious ways you can make them.
Speaker 2 (33:32):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 1 (33:33):
I've got more brown eggs waiting for me to crack
them open tomorrow morning. I just can't wait to do
it every morning. I don't get sick of them. It's amazing.
Speaker 2 (33:40):
Breakfast your favore meal of the day, No.
Speaker 1 (33:44):
Because I don't get fancy with it. Like it's literally
just eggs in the butter and then salt.
Speaker 2 (33:50):
It and sounds incredible to me.
Speaker 1 (33:52):
I mean it's great, but like usually the chicken and
rice or the ground turkey and rice with a little
honey mustard sauce for lunch. That's the although you want
to know.
Speaker 2 (34:03):
Is that is that your post workout, because that that
pre that's kind of cheating a little bit because every
post workout is it's your.
Speaker 1 (34:10):
Pre workout, pre workout. So the way that well, I
know nobody wants to hear about CrossFit. I am a
CrossFit semifinals athlete and I'm doing two a days right now.
Uh so, there's it's essentially, get Kindley to daycare, come home,
eat my eggs. First session of the day, do a
little bit of work, lunch, a little bit more work.
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Second session of the day, and then the after the
post the big sessions usually in the afternoon, and after
that it's usually a big protein shake, an Oikos yogurt,
another fifteen grams of protein, and then some kind of
carbi something sweet like literally today I had two chocolate
chip cookies.
Speaker 2 (34:49):
Oh yeah, because.
Speaker 1 (34:50):
You want a little carbs with the protein. Post workout
shuttles that the nutrients in the protein right to the
muscles and uh and then yeah, and then dinner. Shout
out to the Iowa Council. That whole conversation was basically
to prop them up. Thanks for they'll be with us
for another month here and then later on this year. Dude,
me and Lauren made enchiladas the other night. Oh yeah,
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dinner is usually like whatever, you know, it's like it's
it's it's great, right, we made steak last night, We'll
make pasta, we'll eat pizza like we eat pretty good
dinners like we we kind of that's where we kind
of splurge we made enchiladas the other night and God day,
Food's so good.
Speaker 2 (35:31):
Dude, who invented food? This god creat job?
Speaker 1 (35:35):
Good for them.
Speaker 2 (35:36):
Hey, can you imagine if we were like plants and
we just had to lay out in the sun like
for a photosynthesis carbon dioxide. Yeah, we'd be denied this
joyous occasion.
Speaker 1 (35:46):
Of being a plant. Would suck. Dude, that should be
a T shirt. Camera. I asked about holes in the roster,
back to football here the to I asked about the
old line, you know, and then of course ka fashion.
He talks about the three guys that are out there
on Pro Day. Pro Day, by the way, just happened.
This is gonna come out on Monday. So one week ago.
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The guys did Pro Day, not as social media forward
with the results at least.
Speaker 2 (36:12):
Yeah, they didn't really post any of the.
Speaker 1 (36:14):
Couple guys did. Their agents did, but you really had
to dig to find the results. The social media team
did not. I don't know why that is. But he
mentioned Connor Colby, Elsbury Mason Richmond, two of the three
which we've had on the show. We should get Connor
Colby on here in the next few weeks or months.
I'm gonna try and get to him. Obviously, big time
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contributors to the offensive line gonna leave a couple of
big holes. Obviously, we have Jennings Dunker who just set
an all time squat record. Well, him and Logan Lee.
Let's just go to that quick, Logan or Logan Jones.
Logan Jones as are arguably undersized center just set a
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and I think this is calculated. It's not a true
one rep. He didn't get under it, but whatever he
did came out to a calculated seven twenty.
Speaker 2 (37:05):
Woo Kevin, You've.
Speaker 1 (37:10):
Been under some heavy squat bars you were powerlifting for
a while.
Speaker 2 (37:13):
Yeah, I've never never touched anything remotely close to that.
Like I put five hundred on my back one time,
and it felt like when I got out from under it,
like my I'd shrunk like an inch.
Speaker 1 (37:26):
I tried to unrack uh five eighty five one time
when b Ross had it on the bar, just to
hold it, just to hold it above the hooks, and
I got it off the bar, couldn't stabilize and had
to let it crash back down. I couldn't hold it.
I just at thirty years old, after seventeen years of
lifting weights, PRD my deadlift. The other day deadlift. Usually
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most people's heaviest lift didn't even have five hundred on
the bar. It's four seventy five, so and I'm not strong,
but like seven twenty is crazy. Jennings dunker six eighty
five or six ninety five, something like that. Kevin we
I texted the group when I saw this. We have
some freshman linebacker named Preston Rees who squatted a calculated
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one rm of six thirty six thirty. He's a linebacker.
He played quarterback last year in high school. I guess
eighteen months ago he was a quarterback at monta Cello
two way.
Speaker 2 (38:29):
Evidently this was bad for the kids that he played.
Speaker 1 (38:31):
Man. I retweeted, and I said, who the hell is
this kid? And I was educated by all of the
Iowa high school football ball knowers. They're like, you should
have seen this kid carry Monticello to the state championship
last year. He basically did what Cooper dejen did for
Obgyn High School. He just on his back, put the
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team on his back, played linebacker, kicker, punter, and quarterback.
Speaker 2 (38:56):
Well, apparently that's why he can squat so much. He
can just put everyone on his back and he just
use the head and that much weight on it.
Speaker 1 (39:01):
When you carry your team for four years in small town, Iowa,
six thirty eight shit. Yeah, so.
Speaker 2 (39:08):
That's like I'm just pulling up a one rep calculator.
He probably did something around five sixty five times. So
when we do these max out days, yeah, explain it.
It's usually like ninety to ninety three percent of your
one one RM calculator, so your one repetition maximum calculators.
And so they'll say, all right, we're gonna take say
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it's five hundred pounds, we're gonna do ninety percent of that.
So you put four fifty on the bar, do as
many times as you can, and then say, usually you
should be able to do ninety percent three.
Speaker 1 (39:41):
Times, right, yeah, like if you if it's a good
day and you yeah, so then you get like five six.
Speaker 2 (39:46):
You know, some guys will go off and just get like.
Speaker 1 (39:48):
Eight, yeah, and the coaches are like, all right, well
his max is.
Speaker 2 (39:51):
Going up, yeah exactly, and then they'll bump up your
max accordingly.
Speaker 1 (39:55):
Yeah. So this kid probably had over five point fifty
five fifty plus on the bar and did it four
or five six times, Like I cannot imagine, dude, yeah.
Speaker 2 (40:05):
And the reason we do that instead of like one
actual like powerlifting one reps, Like we don't need guys
getting hurt just to see how much they can actually squat, yeah,
trying to get a strength assessment on them, so we
can program workouts accordingly. But we don't need to be
like busting out, yeah, actually putting that much weight on
the ball.
Speaker 1 (40:25):
Yeah. I cringe every time I see a school post
like a hype video where like a highlight of some
of their guys hitting a one RM and it is
a true one r M, and I'm like, God, damn,
why are you risking injury?
Speaker 2 (40:37):
Yeah, go be a powerlifting team. That's not the goal here.
Speaker 1 (40:42):
You're like, you're you have five years to play football
and you're risking paralyzation over a one rep max. Like
there's six guys spotting. You don't do that right. And
if if you've ever been a client or done one
of my programs, I never, for I never. I don't
remember the last time I personally one RM other than
my deadlift the other day. That was the first time
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in forever. And if I program for clients, I'm doing
a five r M every time, and we're just trying
to constantly improve your five r M, and that'll calculate
your one r M. I don't know, it's it's crazy,
but hey, nonetheless, these guys are fucking strong. Excuse my language.
We'll keep going here cautiously optimistic that some of these
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guys that are going to have to fill in the
two spots on the offensive line are in a better
spot than some of these guys that are now graduating
were a couple of years ago when they had to
step in. He thinks they can maintain that standard, and
that standard was pretty damn good for the running game
last year. He says, then in mentions like hey, if
we've got a QB that knows what they're doing, thinks
I think we have a guy that might fill that
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role that'll help on the passing game side, help with
the offensive lines. Pass blocking opens up the game too.
Speaker 2 (41:52):
Yeah, it's it's everything gets a hell of a lot
easier when.
Speaker 1 (41:56):
It's looking it's looking good all around. I think as
far as the offensive line tight ends and quarterback goes,
I think the big question this year's receiver for for
for the Iowha guys, and and that's we're gonna have
to answer that.
Speaker 2 (42:08):
I think we got some suitable guys. You know, Jacob
Gill had a serviceable yeah, like he he he had.
I think he approved throughout the year and became a
pretty solid receiver.
Speaker 1 (42:19):
You know.
Speaker 2 (42:20):
Vander Z's a young kid, but he's big target. It's
got long arms and go up and get it. And
then we got we got Weech and Beck, speedy little guy.
Speaker 1 (42:30):
I love that guy.
Speaker 2 (42:31):
I think we have enough to do what we need
to do in the past year.
Speaker 1 (42:34):
I do too, especially with you know, supposedly the evolution
of Lesser's offense in year two. It'll be exciting to see.
Speaker 2 (42:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (42:41):
Here's the here's probably the most interesting part of the
press conference. They asked about, you know, the roster cuts,
like they got to be at one oh five by August,
and he was critical again, He's like, you know, if
I could offer some advice on the hindsight here, Like
it would have been nice if they would have given
us one year or two years to do this, like
cut down from sunrise it like get to one fifteen
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this year and then get to one oh five next year. Yeah,
it would have it would have been a lot easier
to do. keV says the words quote unquote like I
think we're in the minority, and how we approach this.
Back in December, keV before the Bowl game, they told
these guys straight up, if they could guarantee them a
one oh five spot or if they could not.
Speaker 2 (43:22):
Okay, what else would you ask? I mean, as a player,
I'd appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (43:26):
Absolutely, because then it gives you that that break over
the you know, it's it's tight, but you could at
least try and get to a new school by spring.
Speaker 2 (43:32):
Yeah, you can go transfer or you you know that
you've got to fight for your spot this spring.
Speaker 1 (43:38):
Yeah, And so he he said, you know, right now,
the words roster's pretty much under control. They are where
they need to be already numbers wise. So that's so
that's great, And I love the way that they did that.
He thinks that most schools did not do that, at
least from talking to other guys.
Speaker 2 (43:55):
And I mean, if you're just going to like game
theory this out, you're just like, I don't want these guys,
this group of talented people to be on other teams.
So from it like the least human humane way possible.
It is like, yeah, I'm gonna hold onto these guys
as long as I can come August or whatever, I'll
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spit them out into the NCAA and other people won't
be able to use them.
Speaker 1 (44:21):
But dude, like, just like everything else, Like, what do
you expect? KF plays good ball? You know, he plays good,
clean ball, and he like, this is just one more
thing the right way to do it. It's just one
more thing that's like KF if you've ever questioned him
at the helm, just another example of him doing shit
the right way, being upfront, being transparent. I guarantee those
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players are gonna already respect and appreciate the way he
went about that. And you know, it was a tough
situation for everybody, no matter how you did it. I
think he handled it about as good as you could.
So I will say, you know, being where they're at
and feeling good about where they are roster number wise
all ready heading into springball is a really really good
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spot to be.
Speaker 2 (45:03):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (45:04):
You know, you have who you have, and you know
that that's your that's your team that you're going to
war with, and you can kind of buy into your
one oh five couple departures, Uh, somewhat surprising, and this
maybe gets them closer to that one oh five number.
I guess uh, john Nester secondary guy got a lot
(45:24):
of quality time, meaningful time, you know, as a backup
the last couple of years special teams. Was someone who
we thought was going to elevate, maybe be a starter
for us, play real significant role. He enters the portal
yesterday as well as Max White, who was in a
walk on. I don't know the reason for him, Speculation
(45:46):
around nestor having some nil offers out there that that
pulled him away, but yeah, a couple of guys who
I mean, White's been in the program for four years. Man,
like he he had nine carries thirty eight year, played
a ton of Special teams, just a you know, one
of those blue collar coaches kids, just cerebral, you know,
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walk on still a walk on. I imagine he was
able to go and find some sort of compensation or
at least a role where he was going to have,
you know, he could play, he could play every down
at running backs.
Speaker 2 (46:22):
Man, I forget his name. He was from a small
town northwest Sile Noah Clayburg, Clayburg, Yep, yeah, like he
would have been a really good football player, but then
he decided to transfer to small school and like just
just play like every down there. And he went and
played quarterback at Dort Yeah something like that.
Speaker 1 (46:40):
Yeah, wild dude. He was so good on special teams
as a true freshman and then he's just like nah,
d one football eight for me.
Speaker 2 (46:47):
Yeah, yeah, I can see that. I mean that's you know,
some people just like you know this, this is the
kid's last year of eligibility. It's like, I want to
go play somewhere, you know, I want to go be
the running back somewhere or something like that.
Speaker 1 (47:00):
And to be honest, keV, I don't know if there's
something that I could respect anymore.
Speaker 2 (47:05):
Likely, it's a lot to walk away from.
Speaker 1 (47:08):
Dude. These kids that do that shit, they love football
and they just want to play. And I felt some
of that as a long snapper at times at Iowa.
I was cool with it because damn it was fun
to run out and be part of and be a
starter on a Division one football team, play in front
of seventy thousand. I'm a heathen, keV. That's what I
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did it for, right. I wanted the lights, I wanted
that D one tag, I wanted the free meals. I
did it for all the wrong fucking reasons. I'm a
horrible person. Dude. These guys they don't care. They want
to go play, And like, every once in a while,
I'd have that creeping feeling of like, dude, what if
I went D two and played linebacker? What if I
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went What if I just went to Central where my
wife went and just fucking played linebacker for four years
and just had fun, man like got to tackle people.
Would I have ct PROP but with the four years
would have been cool? Yes? No, Yeah, I don't regret
a single thing, but man, there is I get it.
I understand it. Sad to lose guys in the portal.
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Seemed like Nestor was going to be a contributor. Last
thing I have here is, uh, we'll just quickly look
at the depth charts. Those came out today again Spring
depth charts. Who really you know, who really knows? See
if I can get this bigger for Kevin God, I
just don't know how to make it any bigger because
it makes it bigger on my screen, but then it
doesn't make it bigger on yours. Hey, dude, make it bigger. Bro, God,
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I don't know. I can read it for the most part,
So we'll start on the defensive side of the ball.
Llewellyn Grant, who wasn't able to make it tonight. Grant's
got a big boy job. Llewellyn six five two sixty
going to be bringing all that experience the defensive line.
At the left end spot we got.
Speaker 2 (49:01):
We got Keevon Merriwell's little brother behind him.
Speaker 1 (49:03):
That is that is not his little brother. I do
not think that's his little brother, but Kenneth Merriweather, young kid.
A lot of promise, a lot of a lot of
promise from him in the recruiting cycle. I think Graves
is back. That was a big get again back at
left tackle. Jeremiah Pittman, he came on the show two
summers ago. Uh currently slotted in as the right tackle
and then herk it at right end. Dude, I love
(49:26):
that d line. A lot of a lot of experience
coming back there. Uh at the LEO position. Jackson Rexroth,
hell of a name.
Speaker 2 (49:36):
I think he's a former walk on kid. I don't
know if he's still a walk on or not.
Speaker 1 (49:39):
But Cedar Rapid Savior, love it. Middle linebacker Jaden Herrel
and Will Will linebacker Carson Schier. We've heard about these guys.
Speaker 2 (49:49):
We've heard about this is the big question mark this year,
and you know our podcast with with the two outgoing
linebackers had a lot of good things to say about
these guys.
Speaker 1 (49:58):
So at a good thing. We're here at left corner. TJ.
Hall obviously has a ton of experience looking for him
to take the next step on the other corner. DeShawn
Lee same thing, a lot of experience. Basically, just need
those guys to elevate find themselves finally as uh as
guys who are like really locked down cornerbacks. And then
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here's some fun news. keV Xavier Wampa he's gonna be
playing free safety moving over from strong safety.
Speaker 2 (50:26):
Yeah, I can see that for sure.
Speaker 1 (50:28):
Cohen Entringer taking over the current one slot at the
strong safety. What do you think there? What what's the
idea behind that movie thing?
Speaker 2 (50:37):
You know, I think Conan might just be a little
bit more athletic, and you know that.
Speaker 1 (50:46):
Isn't it crazy to say that he's that he's more
athletic than Xavier Wampa the five star. Yeah, but I
think what I he's more suited for that role.
Speaker 2 (50:55):
Yeah, there's there's a few things like you want your
strong safety to be a little bit more of a thumper,
come up and make plays. And we also ask our
strong safety to do get put in some stressful situations
that some extra athleticism really helps out with.
Speaker 1 (51:12):
Yeah. Over on the offense, Oh oh my god, I
just did what everybody what I rail people for. I
didn't even tell the specialists. We already talked about them.
Drew Stevens restaking, and then Ike spelts out of van
meter very close to Walke over here, we're in number
ninety seven. My guy gonna be our current long snapper.
(51:32):
I love to see it on the offensive side of
the ball, returning Bo Stevens, Logan, Jones, Jennings, Dunker. Those
will be the three that you know. Cad Peeper I
Colt's been huge on this guy. He thinks he could
step in and be a player right away. Over on
right guard left tackle, currently have Jack Dottzler and Trevor
Lauch behind him, a young guy, both guys who have
(51:54):
heard great things about We'll see, like I said, k
I've said, they feel like good things. I mean.
Speaker 2 (52:00):
And as the last time we had a little bit
of offensive line rebuild, which is a couple of years ago,
is you know, this guy's coming in as a junior
to start versus like remember think back to like twenty one,
twenty two, Like these were all young guys stepping into the.
Speaker 1 (52:15):
Young to the young sophomore's freshmen. You look at the
tight end position, you got the two studs, the two
you know, a Stranga and Ortworth, They're gonna be there.
Like we lose Lache, I don't think we lose a
whole lot though. We're gonna fill right in with those
two guys Kamario Molton, Jazzy and Patterson kind of crazy.
We retain jazz in my opinion, like to be honest,
(52:39):
but those are two guys at running back. We know
what we're getting with them. I'm excited to see what
they can do with them sharing those two reps. Currently
without Gronowski, Sullivan is our our number one, Hank Brown
is our number two at quarterback. And then the wide
receivers that we talked about, Probably the the area where
we need to find something is Jacob gill Seth Anderson,
(53:01):
the transfer we got from Charleston Southern a year ago.
And then r VZ, the young kid who got Just
imagine if he's put on some he says, he's two
o seven, guy's got a frame on him. So you
gotta like, you gotta like we see.
Speaker 2 (53:15):
I mean, there's potential here. There's definitely potential here. And
it's gonna come back to, like, what type of play
can we get out of our quarterback? Can our wide
receivers step up and make the next you know, take
the next step in their development, and can we plug
those holes in the offensive line.
Speaker 1 (53:33):
It's all about plugging holes.
Speaker 2 (53:34):
Man, We're a big plugin holes podcast.
Speaker 1 (53:40):
Go plug them holes. No, I think you're right. The
uh it's almost like we've been lolled over the past
four years. And again, nobody's fault. We had injuries, we had,
we just couldn't find the right guy. We just couldn't
last year. We didn't have guys in the system long enough.
We've almost been lolled into a spot where we don't
really remember what it's like to have a quarterback that
(54:01):
really can control the offense. He commands that offense, and
I think it's it goes unsaid, Like Nate Stanley, I
think it's so underrated. What happens when you have a
guy that can do that, How that opens up the
other positions and if we can get that, keV, we
might see some shit this year that we just haven't
seen in a while. I'm excited for it. Shout out
(54:23):
to the IOWAG council. Fill those holes with some eggs.
I don't know that's enough.
Speaker 2 (54:30):
Only only one. There's only one acceptable hole to do
that with.
Speaker 1 (54:35):
I gotta get off here before we get canceled. Shout
out to IEWAG counsel and everybody else for listening to
the show, joining keV and I talking about Iowa football,
what we love to do. We'll be back. I think
we got Deontay Craig w got that dub. Yeah, we
got him. We got Lima coming up on a spring
Ball episode. Lots more coming down the pipe. And that's
(54:58):
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All this different stuff. It's done and over with, and
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(02:19):
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you want and it feels like that's what they've done.
Beth Getz feels like that's what she's done. I know
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He went to Indiana made it easy. McCollum could have
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Moving forward from that, we're going to talk a little
bit about oh, one last thing on the basketball. It's
very cool that Bennett Startz is coming. I think it's
going to be electric to see that kid in the
(07:40):
black and gold. McCollum's opening press conference, which I think
he killed and everybody kind of saying this like a
plus grand slam knocked the press conference out of the park.
I think he really did. I don't think it's hard
to do. You stand up and you tell the people
what they want to hear. But I think he did
that in a really authentic way. And I think you
can here through his opening statement and the questions that
(08:04):
he answered the authenticity around him being the coach in
Iowa City. He was obviously born there. It feels great
for him. And you can hear this through the enthusiasm
that he talked about the team and the city with
and the fans. It feels good. It feels like a
different kind of sense of pride for him to lead
this program. There's x's and o's that you could get
(08:25):
into if this was a basketball podcast. But he's a
defensive guy. He is a guy who is going to
work on efficiency. Hey, are we saying some buzzwords here
that maybe sound a little bit familiar. Yeah. As I
listened to this thing, all I'm thinking is this is
like a modern chaof He doesn't have the exact cadence
and sort of you know, it comes across differently, but
(08:46):
the message that's coming from KF's playbook Baby, Efficiency and Defense.
Oh talk about culture. He says, you don't build culture,
you recruited is essentially what he said, you by the
people that you bring in that creates your culture. You're
not going to bring in five star talent of kids
who are entitled and they think everything should be given
(09:08):
to them and they don't have to work hard, and
then build the culture from them. No, you might find
a couple five stars are really talented guys who already
have what you're looking for intangibly, but you're going to
build that culture from the inside out. And actually Kevin
joins the show here get him.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
Yeah, sorry for me and.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
Late all good. I was just I was just rolling
on Ben McCollum and the similarities. I don't know if
you got to see any of his opening press commerce
you're not a big basketball guy.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
Unfortunately I did not, But I've heard nothing but great
things about everything he said.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
Yeah, I mean, he knocked it out of the park.
And dude, as I listened to him, man, it just
sounded a lot like it was coming from the KF playbook.
I mean it was a he talked about, well, first
of all, his mentality when it comes to the x's
and o's and sort of the FA philosophy set of basketball.
He's an efficiency guy and a defensive guy. I mean,
(10:05):
I mean, come on now, sorry.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
We are we talking about defense? Special teams and make
the plays on an offense.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
Absolutely absolutely. I mean there was a wild stat this
year that they kept showing in the tournament, and it
was points scored with five or less seconds on the
play clock. And Drake led the country by over one
hundred points in that with like three hundred and fifty
(10:34):
and the next team had like two hundred and fifty.
So it's just like they they really try to milk
the offensive side of the ball. They try to get
good shots. They do not commit turnovers. Like it's a
slower paced game because they're using the entire play clock
shot clock, but.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
A lower pace, but theoretically the game actually goes.
Speaker 1 (10:55):
Faster, right Yeah, less turnovers, less stoppage of play. You're
looking at it in a way that's like, hey, we're
trying to control the ball. We're trying to control time
of possession here, right, like the way they talk about
Ben McCollum is is you're going to play his style
of basketball.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
He's not gonna let you play to your strengths.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
Huh. I agree, Like Grant said, were you on here?
When Grant was like, we're not gonna we're not going
to go to the tournament and neither are you because
because because we're going to control the way you play
it literally is the way. It's a very similar style.
Oddly enough, Ben McCollum accepts this job Kevin at forty
three years old, which is the same young bright age
(11:41):
that Keef accepted the job back in nineteen ninety nine.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
So so you're saying if he's not there for the
next twenty six years, he's a failure.
Speaker 1 (11:51):
I'm not saying that because it's sort of an interesting
thing there because you think about it and you're like, Okay,
what's I heard? The IOWA Everywhere guys with another just
another podcast kind of say it this way. They're like, Okay,
as a Drake fan, what did you want? Right? This
was the best case scenario. You wanted him to do
as good as you can, Like, you want Drake to succeed, right,
he just did it. So well that in one year
(12:14):
his price went up at Iowa. It's almost the same thing. Like,
if he does so well, and I don't think it's
a one year turnaround of Iowa basketball, gonna be a
little bit more tough than that, right, But if he
does so well that in five years or six years
when his contract is up. I think they said his
contract is six years three point three a year.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
I mean, coaches contracts, that's just you're just telling them
how much money he's getting paid.
Speaker 1 (12:40):
Contracts are useless, now, dude, there, Yeah, it's if he's
getting fired, he's getting paid that regardless, and if somebody
else wants to hire him, they're going to buy him out.
They're paying it regardless. It's amazing. If you're a coach,
it's a great time. It's great. But really, like in
five years, if he's that good and he's like, okay,
this guy is now in line for the I mean,
(13:01):
Duke has a relatively young coach, but like one of
those blue bloods, right and they come for him. Maybe
gonna be sad for Iowa fans, but he's going to
leave that program in a great spot. If that is
the case. Well, I can.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
See if that you know, back early in KF's tenure,
like a lot of NFL teams came calling for him
to come be their head coach. I can see that
if he were to take Iowa basketball and elevate him
to the level where he's a name for those big
jobs and he buzz around the program is a lot
(13:37):
higher than it's been these last couple of years. I
can see Iowa stepping up to pay him. I mean,
not as much as some of those programs, but enough
for an Iowa City, homegrown guy to want to, you know,
stay around.
Speaker 1 (13:51):
The university and donors and the fan support would certainly
be levels above where it currently sits at that point. Yes,
he sort of alluded to that too. Somebody asked him
his recruiting pitch, why Iowa, right, Like, if you're a
player in the portal right now, you just hopped in
from another school, why would you come to the Iowhawk guys,
And he said, like to open that quite the answer
(14:14):
to that question, He's like, I don't know, I think
I was pretty special, Like I think this is a
place where you know, that sounds like cliche, but I
think it's if you're rolling and you're doing good things.
This is a place that will support you and the players.
So I think you're right there. I hope that's the case.
I would love to see it. You and I aren't
basketball guys. We don't watch a little bit a lot
(14:34):
of basketball, but when it's fun to have the university
and the sports teams of your alma mater do well.
And I tweeted these like two days ago, I'm like,
I don't even I watched forty minutes of basketball combined
this year. But this Ben McCullum higher has me fully tended.
I'm excited because everybody else is excited. Have you seen
(14:54):
his wardrobe, by the way, Like he's a suit guy, right, uh,
shirt and tie, shirt and tie signature. Look, he would
wear the white shirt with a royal blue tie for
every single game. And the fans and the students that
Drake started to they started to adopt that. So they
were they would wear white T shirts or even white
button down T shirts or button up T shirts with
(15:16):
a blue tie. They'd come to the game like that.
Old guys in the stands are wearing that to the game.
So obviously you adopt that. To Iowa City, Let's get
this man a gold tie, right, and then you know
there's a couple of people who are like, hey, we
probably need to probably need to get something going for this,
so keV, we already have something in the works here.
(15:37):
Let me just show you a little something coming down
the pipe.
Speaker 2 (15:41):
I love it.
Speaker 1 (15:42):
We got we got the Ben McCollum tie T shirt
coming to a place very near you very soon and
the Hawks by a million will be on the sleeve.
That will be in black though, I that's going to
be in black just to give a little better contrast.
But that is going to be available very soon. If
you're watching the YouTube as we run this back shirt, yeah,
(16:04):
I will be getting one of these. And I hope
that we can fill Carver Hawkeye with this T shirt
right here. I really do not only could we support
Ben McCollum in his first year and put an incredible
look to Carver. Hopefully we'll be much more full than
it has been as of recent times. But with the
purchase of these T shirts, obviously you're going to be
(16:25):
helping out UI Children's with our fifty percent going to them.
So you know, it's exciting times around the around the
basketball basketball stuff.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
Watch me Tallady Knights.
Speaker 1 (16:37):
Yeah, a long time ago. I haven't seen it in
a very long time.
Speaker 2 (16:40):
There's a scene in there where they're talking about, you know,
like how they like to imagine Jesus, and one of
the guys is like, I like to picture Jesus in
a tuxedo T shirt.
Speaker 1 (16:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
It's like I want to be formal, but I'm here
at a party.
Speaker 1 (16:55):
That could be Ben McCallum. He said the words we
need to get it lit up in there like he's
he's uh, he seems to be the best guy for
the job, and uh, hey, no, you can never do
better than when you haven't.
Speaker 2 (17:08):
Played a game yet, right, So the most popular he'll
ever I don't know about.
Speaker 1 (17:13):
Ever be but damn close, damn close. We're gonna get
to Uh we're gonna into some football here because football
is spring. Football's here, keV.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
I'm feel sorry for those guys.
Speaker 1 (17:25):
Yeah, it's a tough one. It is a tough one.
One of the one of the sentences k If said
today in his press conference was it is a time
of pure developmental period. I was like, oh is it.
That is tough for the young bucks, But hey, you
gotta be forged through fire a little bit. You got
(17:45):
you gotta you gotta encounter a little resistance to uh,
to elevate your game. A lot of good stuff in
a thirty seven minute press conference. If I was a
good podcaster or this was a good show at all,
I would have the clips and that I'd play the
clip and then we talk about it. I'm gonna have
to describe that to Kevin because I know he didn't
watch that either. Started with special teams. Love that said
he's very confident about having his punter and restaken and
(18:08):
his kicker back. We love that Special Teams. He did
finish with the fact that we're we're gonna have a
new long snapper this year. Put a little joke in
it there at the end, But you know, he said,
this is a time and I this is immediately I
thought of you. He said, this is a time where
(18:28):
guys pretty much should grow in the classroom just as
much as they grow on the field. And I is
it fifty to fifty like that? What's your opinion on
that for spring ball?
Speaker 2 (18:38):
Yeah, especially young guys. Is like, if you think about
guys who were true freshman last year, you got thrown
into three weeks of camp. I guess it's two weeks
now or whatever. Yeah, fifteen used to be where they
threw the entire let's just stick with the defensive player.
They threw the entire defense at you weeks. Right by
(19:01):
day three, it's over your head and they're just installing it.
For the older guys, you're just trying to follow long
as best you can. And at the end of those
two weeks, guess what, we're into game prep. You're on
a scout team now, and you don't come back to
your playbook again until right now. And this is a
time where they take they have long meetings, long classroom
(19:22):
meetings to really go slowly and make sure that everyone
is getting up to speed on the ins and outs
of the of the defense or the offense.
Speaker 1 (19:34):
It was an interesting statement to me just because I
so for me personally, obviously, there wasn't a lot of
growing in the classroom to do in the meeting room,
right that playbook was thick, but it I didn't your
section of it was quite thin. It was. It was
pretty thin relatively, So I just know how much these guys,
especially like you said, the young guys grow physically. And
(19:57):
we're going to talk about some physical feats happening in
the weight room here in a second Jesus, but man
as much as on the class on the meeting room side.
And I guess that is true. And obviously the guys
who can make the biggest jumps are gonna well, those
guys are going to be the ones who impact on
the field. Obviously asked about Mark Gronowski and his surgery,
(20:19):
his recovery, their first impressions of him, he's been around
for two months. What they're thinking about Mark? He said,
interesting way to answer the question. He feels like they
know more and feel more comfortable with who Mark Gronowski
is as a football player than they do about any
other quarterback on their roster. And that's because one of
the roster the quarterback room turnover in just the last
(20:41):
year since Lester's come. Sullivan has not been here for
a full year. Hank has not been here for a
full year. I think there's a couple other guys that
are like, have no experience or have just joined recently.
This is a complete this is Tim Lester's quarterback room.
And because Gronowski has played like fifty games, over fifty
games at South Dakota State, they're literally like, we know
(21:04):
what we're getting with Mark, and I just that's a
really weird spot to be. They also feel like he
is smarter. He said this tongue in cheek, but he's like,
I think he's smarter than all the coaches combined. We
love to hear that, he said, he's Dean's list mechanical engineering.
Speaker 2 (21:22):
That's what That's exactly what you want from your quarterback.
Speaker 1 (21:25):
I just love to hear that.
Speaker 2 (21:26):
You love that from your quarterback.
Speaker 1 (21:27):
Oh, Dean's list, mechanical engineering. I was two point seven
GPA health and human physiology. Just completely different stratospheres between
me and Mark Gronowski. As a as an intellectual, you
want your quarterback to be smart. You'd love for him
to have experience. You'd love for him to be a leader.
You'd love for him to know how to win. This
(21:49):
guy checks all the boxes. And the way that coach
Ference talks about him makes me feel good. And I
can't explain why, but Kevin, you would understand why if
you heard the press conference as well. They're confident in
Gronowski now as far as where he's at recovery, Wise,
said he's a little bit ahead of schedule and that
in the next couple of weeks as they're out on
the field, he will start throwing lightly. So not bet
(22:13):
that's good, that's good. I mean it's better than him
starting in the summer. Right, It's as good as we're
gonna get right now. Very excited about Leicester's second year,
and he basically said that word for word. He said
everybody is said it should be a little bit easier
to digest. As far as learning the playbook, you mentioned
(22:34):
a lot of things were putting quickly last year starting
in the spring, a lot of new guys that didn't
have a lot of time with it. They're a full
year into that now. It's also a time for coach
Tim Lester to iron out things he wasn't able to
put in last year. He wasn't able to get in. Also,
we didn't have a great passing offense last year, and
(22:55):
when they got into the season, they kind of just
were like, Okay, we're going to figure out how to
run the ball really well and we'll do that. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (23:01):
You know, it probably got to the point where it's like, Eh,
we're good at this, and let's just focus on being
good at what we're good at. Yeah, Well, just kind
of go from.
Speaker 1 (23:11):
There, great idea worked really well. Problem is is eventually
you got to put the full thing together right and
so now they finally have that again. One of those
things where you listen to KF he's not going to
bullshit you very often. He said. They're excited about it,
so good stuff. Talked about the two new coaches, well,
one's an official coach, one is an analyst, but they're
(23:34):
the same goddamn thing in my mind. That through a
backhanded compliment to the Warren Riggio Grigario guy about how
wake Forest just does not have a lot of support
for the football program but he was able to do
great things for them down there. Talked about his role
a little bit and how in game week he's kind
of gonn to be the guy who gets ahead, and
(23:57):
Sunday is sort of like ultra prepared and giving tim
Lester kind of the tools he needs to start working
on the next week right away. And this guy's supposed
to be like pretty good a football mind on the
offensive side of the ball. So then you add that
to then he's feeding tim Lester sort of the base
(24:17):
of what they need to start the next week. I
really like I really like that, And he said that
they had three guys as far as this Omar young
running backs coach, three guys that they felt really good
about hiring, and this Omar guy kind of separated himself
through the interview process and so you know, they they
don't take those things lightly. And if if KF is
(24:38):
hiring him, I feel like he's probably a great person
and knows a lot about football.
Speaker 2 (24:42):
Yeah, totally totally agree.
Speaker 1 (24:44):
Have you seen any of the Twitter clips of Brian
from Fresno State. No, They've they've been putting out some
content of him in like team like indie period and
stuff over there. Yeah, it's cool to see him coach,
like in a different spot. It's just cool to hear
him again.
Speaker 2 (25:01):
That's good. I'm glad for him.
Speaker 1 (25:05):
Yeah, there the Elon and the the the X algorithm
knows what they're doing, because like I don't follow any
Fresno State people, but their stuff will show up in
my timeline. So yeah, the seems like on the coaching side,
they've they've got uh stuff figured out there. Uh he
got asked about Keeter. Ben Keeter just did print well,
(25:26):
just pretty well and.
Speaker 2 (25:27):
Put a tweet out there that it's back to football.
Speaker 1 (25:31):
What is this guy doing He's I love it. Come
play football, man, come be great. But guys just like
all right, wrestling, okay, football, okay, just kidding, wrestling, okay. Football.
We talked about, I think once or twice, how it's
really hard to be great at both the performance he
just put out on the wrestling Matt, I mean American,
(25:52):
all American. It's hard to do, especially in the and
then and then kaf just shows off his knowledge of
like he just starts rattling off, like his knowledge of
the heavyweight weight class in wrestling. It's like, yeah, there's
some there's you know, the three guys at the top
of that weight class. They're gonna be moving on and
like they kind of dominated this year. I think he said.
I think he described Gable as having being in his
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like tenth year.
Speaker 2 (26:17):
He's been there a long time.
Speaker 1 (26:18):
He has been there a long time.
Speaker 2 (26:19):
Well I guess, I mean, was he all for two years?
Speaker 1 (26:22):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (26:22):
It feels like he's been there for ten years.
Speaker 1 (26:24):
Have you seen that aj Ferrari kid. Yeah, he's I
think taking like a red shirt, a medical red shirt.
He's already taken Olympic red shirt and a true red shirt.
He's he's gonna have like eight years of eligibility in wrestling.
He's got like three years of eligibility left.
Speaker 2 (26:42):
He's a piece, He's a piece of work.
Speaker 1 (26:46):
You and him are like, uh, the exact opposites of
each other as a human.
Speaker 2 (26:50):
Yeah, yeah, he would.
Speaker 1 (26:52):
Yeah, I would love to say that would have been.
Speaker 2 (26:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (26:56):
I would love to see you do a split on
a mat and double bird everybody in the crowd out.
Speaker 2 (27:02):
I don't think I could physically do any of those things.
Speaker 1 (27:05):
I know you can't. I would like to see you
try interesting with Keeter, because kid just loves football and
loves wrestling, like he just wants to do both. You
would think with the guys graduating at the top of
that wrestling weight class, legitimate shot to go and like
try and win a Natty next year. Like if not
next year, I mean he's got a couple of years left.
Speaker 2 (27:25):
So yeah, you know, I've always heard like if he
wants to be like great at something, wrestling to the sport,
but yeah, football's awesome.
Speaker 1 (27:37):
So well, here's the thing is, like the knock on
him this year on the mat from what I see
from the outside, is that he just he's not enough weight.
He wasn't big enough. And Okay, so the idea there
is maybe he was smaller, he just hasn't had time
to put on size. He's trying to play linebacker at
the University of Iowa. Does he move to the defensive end?
Speaker 2 (28:00):
I mean I can see he's got the link. I
think right, he's absolutely three taw r.
Speaker 1 (28:05):
Yeah, six four. Maybe does he just move to defensive end?
Be a real athletic en type guy, then you can
play it to sixty to seventy. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (28:14):
Probably just just be like a third down specialist, just
rushing the edge. Guy knows how to use his hands
well obviously, I mean lyas rush moves no problem.
Speaker 1 (28:26):
I mean aj Eppie had literally made his name as
like a third down guy. Like he's playing half half
the reps on the d line his junior season.
Speaker 2 (28:38):
Like junior he was, he was a four down guy.
Speaker 1 (28:41):
Okay, I guess maybe his soft his.
Speaker 2 (28:43):
His uh his freshman year like he that's all I
did was thirty Yeah.
Speaker 1 (28:48):
Yeah, I mean it makes the most sense if if
he was going to try and do both that he
needs to find a he needs to find a position
in football where he can weigh what he's going to
Wayne wrestling, because you are not going to play at
two thirty to thirty five at linebacker and then in
that amount of time at the end of football season
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try and put on twenty or thirty pounds and be
at the right wrestling weight to handle those top guys.
You're just not going to do it. By the way,
the fucking guy who's in Air Force, like he's from
the Air Force and he saluted Donald Trump after he
beat Gable? Is that not the sickest moment in wrestling history.
Speaker 2 (29:26):
Yeah, that was probably a pretty cool moment for that kid.
Speaker 1 (29:30):
Unbelievable.
Speaker 2 (29:32):
Yeah, that was a That was a crazy match. I
mean it was just supposed to be chalked up. Gable
wins is another natty And you know, the last thirty
seconds of that match were incredible.
Speaker 1 (29:43):
It's a bigger upset than Spencer last year. Yeah, probably, dude,
Olympic gold medalist.
Speaker 2 (29:50):
I mean, the only the only thing is that you know,
Spencer got pinned.
Speaker 1 (29:53):
True, yeah, true, But dude, Yeah, it's crazy to me
how even the best you just get caught wrong, just
get caught.
Speaker 2 (30:01):
Yeah, oh dude, I mean that's that's the thing about wrestling,
is like every second you're on the mat.
Speaker 1 (30:06):
You have to be on it brutal.
Speaker 2 (30:08):
Like a football game, like, yeah, some guy can miss
one assignment for one play and you know, maybe it's
a touchdown. Guess what, you can still still come back
from that. Yeah, you know, maybe that's the difference in
the game. Maybe it's not, but you still come back
from that. Wrestling, you get caught once, like.
Speaker 1 (30:24):
You're in trouble matches over, you get pinned, you're done.
Speaker 2 (30:28):
Yeah. What did KAF say about Ben? Because I mean,
obviously he's a talented kid. We can find somewhere to
put him on the field.
Speaker 1 (30:35):
Didn't talk much about the x's and o's or the positionally,
he just said that he has not talked to Ben yet.
He's had some conversations with Wallace, and they're going to
give him two to three weeks to just rest and chill,
so he is not expected to come back and be
in springball immediate Here. Smart wrestling is grueling, and Kaef
(30:58):
said that and his body some rests.
Speaker 2 (31:00):
So I think we talked about it in one podcast,
like back when he was trying to do both. It's
like we're like going through his schedules, like and then
he's going to go through nationals and then springball starts
like the next week. Yeah, so that that would be
absolutely insane.
Speaker 1 (31:15):
Yeah, that would be really rough. So good, it's great
that they're working with him. I don't think you'll see
much from him this spring. Anybody listening to this podcast,
don't expect any Ben Keeter updates. As far as you
know what he's looking like on the football field, it'll
be positive to hear, you know, him progressing through the summer,
and then Camp will be big, like can Keeter make
a push for Camp to play significant time and roll
(31:39):
this fall? How many eggs do you think he eats?
Speaker 2 (31:43):
Oh? How much does he weighed? Two fifty?
Speaker 1 (31:46):
Yeah, somewhere around there.
Speaker 2 (31:48):
I imagine he's at least a half a dozen a day.
Speaker 1 (31:50):
Type of guy you would think, right like, I'm thinking
about that Hendrickson guy or even Gable Steves. I mean,
those heavyweights are pounding eggs.
Speaker 2 (31:57):
Dude, totally totally. Who was Oh man, what's I'm trying
to blank our heavyweight? A couple of years ago he
uh uh Casio Casiopie. Yeah, I think he publicly said
that he was eating like twelve eggs a day.
Speaker 1 (32:13):
Some of those guys you know bodybuilders too. Like the
way they'll do it is they'll just blend it in
the morning shake and they'll just take it straight like that,
just raw eggs.
Speaker 2 (32:24):
Throw some chicken breast in there too, which.
Speaker 1 (32:26):
Yeah, just make it the Logan the Logan Lee shake.
That That is one of the crazier stories or tidbits
we've ever gotten out of somebody. Uh, Logan Lee is
huge on eggs. I bet we should. We should call
him up and ask how many eggs he's He's probably
he's holding up the Iowa egg found just the foundation
of the Iowa egg industry. Probably.
Speaker 2 (32:47):
Well, I'd be curious to see, Like, do you think
it's like in the it's like an eighty twenty thing,
like twenty percent of the people eat eighty percent of
the eggs.
Speaker 1 (32:56):
Absolutely, yeah. I think the people who understand and from
the fitness and health side of what I do, I
do think that protein and the importance of protein and
muscle mass is becoming more mainstream. Obviously for guys like
you and me kind of well known if you're an
athlete like you gotta eat a lot of protein, But
for your everyday person, like the whole joke is like
(33:18):
you do not know how much protein you need, Like
you it's a job to eat enough protein, and eggs
are a great way to do it. Six grams of
protein per egg. It's just hard to beat. And there's
so many delicious ways you can make them.
Speaker 2 (33:32):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 1 (33:33):
I've got more brown eggs waiting for me to crack
them open tomorrow morning. I just can't wait to do
it every morning. I don't get sick of them. It's amazing.
Speaker 2 (33:40):
Breakfast your favore meal of the day, No.
Speaker 1 (33:44):
Because I don't get fancy with it. Like it's literally
just eggs in the butter and then salt.
Speaker 2 (33:50):
It and sounds incredible to me.
Speaker 1 (33:52):
I mean it's great, but like usually the chicken and
rice or the ground turkey and rice with a little
honey mustard sauce for lunch. That's the although you want
to know.
Speaker 2 (34:03):
Is that is that your post workout, because that that
pre that's kind of cheating a little bit because every
post workout is it's your.
Speaker 1 (34:10):
Pre workout, pre workout. So the way that well, I
know nobody wants to hear about CrossFit. I am a
CrossFit semifinals athlete and I'm doing two a days right now.
Uh so, there's it's essentially, get Kindley to daycare, come home,
eat my eggs. First session of the day, do a
little bit of work, lunch, a little bit more work.
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Second session of the day, and then the after the
post the big sessions usually in the afternoon, and after
that it's usually a big protein shake, an Oikos yogurt,
another fifteen grams of protein, and then some kind of
carbi something sweet like literally today I had two chocolate
chip cookies.
Speaker 2 (34:49):
Oh yeah, because.
Speaker 1 (34:50):
You want a little carbs with the protein. Post workout
shuttles that the nutrients in the protein right to the
muscles and uh and then yeah, and then dinner. Shout
out to the Iowa Council. That whole conversation was basically
to prop them up. Thanks for they'll be with us
for another month here and then later on this year. Dude,
me and Lauren made enchiladas the other night. Oh yeah,
(35:14):
dinner is usually like whatever, you know, it's like it's
it's it's great, right, we made steak last night, We'll
make pasta, we'll eat pizza like we eat pretty good
dinners like we we kind of that's where we kind
of splurge we made enchiladas the other night and God day,
Food's so good.
Speaker 2 (35:31):
Dude, who invented food? This god creat job?
Speaker 1 (35:35):
Good for them.
Speaker 2 (35:36):
Hey, can you imagine if we were like plants and
we just had to lay out in the sun like
for a photosynthesis carbon dioxide. Yeah, we'd be denied this
joyous occasion.
Speaker 1 (35:46):
Of being a plant. Would suck. Dude, that should be
a T shirt. Camera. I asked about holes in the roster,
back to football here the to I asked about the
old line, you know, and then of course ka fashion.
He talks about the three guys that are out there
on Pro Day. Pro Day, by the way, just happened.
This is gonna come out on Monday. So one week ago.
(36:06):
The guys did Pro Day, not as social media forward
with the results at least.
Speaker 2 (36:12):
Yeah, they didn't really post any of the.
Speaker 1 (36:14):
Couple guys did. Their agents did, but you really had
to dig to find the results. The social media team
did not. I don't know why that is. But he
mentioned Connor Colby, Elsbury Mason Richmond, two of the three
which we've had on the show. We should get Connor
Colby on here in the next few weeks or months.
I'm gonna try and get to him. Obviously, big time
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contributors to the offensive line gonna leave a couple of
big holes. Obviously, we have Jennings Dunker who just set
an all time squat record. Well, him and Logan Lee.
Let's just go to that quick, Logan or Logan Jones.
Logan Jones as are arguably undersized center just set a
(36:55):
and I think this is calculated. It's not a true
one rep. He didn't get under it, but whatever he
did came out to a calculated seven twenty.
Speaker 2 (37:05):
Woo Kevin, You've.
Speaker 1 (37:10):
Been under some heavy squat bars you were powerlifting for
a while.
Speaker 2 (37:13):
Yeah, I've never never touched anything remotely close to that.
Like I put five hundred on my back one time,
and it felt like when I got out from under it,
like my I'd shrunk like an inch.
Speaker 1 (37:26):
I tried to unrack uh five eighty five one time
when b Ross had it on the bar, just to
hold it, just to hold it above the hooks, and
I got it off the bar, couldn't stabilize and had
to let it crash back down. I couldn't hold it.
I just at thirty years old, after seventeen years of
lifting weights, PRD my deadlift. The other day deadlift. Usually
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most people's heaviest lift didn't even have five hundred on
the bar. It's four seventy five, so and I'm not strong,
but like seven twenty is crazy. Jennings dunker six eighty
five or six ninety five, something like that. Kevin we
I texted the group when I saw this. We have
some freshman linebacker named Preston Rees who squatted a calculated
(38:13):
one rm of six thirty six thirty. He's a linebacker.
He played quarterback last year in high school. I guess
eighteen months ago he was a quarterback at monta Cello
two way.
Speaker 2 (38:29):
Evidently this was bad for the kids that he played.
Speaker 1 (38:31):
Man. I retweeted, and I said, who the hell is
this kid? And I was educated by all of the
Iowa high school football ball knowers. They're like, you should
have seen this kid carry Monticello to the state championship
last year. He basically did what Cooper dejen did for
Obgyn High School. He just on his back, put the
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team on his back, played linebacker, kicker, punter, and quarterback.
Speaker 2 (38:56):
Well, apparently that's why he can squat so much. He
can just put everyone on his back and he just
use the head and that much weight on it.
Speaker 1 (39:01):
When you carry your team for four years in small town, Iowa,
six thirty eight shit. Yeah, so.
Speaker 2 (39:08):
That's like I'm just pulling up a one rep calculator.
He probably did something around five sixty five times. So
when we do these max out days, yeah, explain it.
It's usually like ninety to ninety three percent of your
one one RM calculator, so your one repetition maximum calculators.
And so they'll say, all right, we're gonna take say
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it's five hundred pounds, we're gonna do ninety percent of that.
So you put four fifty on the bar, do as
many times as you can, and then say, usually you
should be able to do ninety percent three.
Speaker 1 (39:41):
Times, right, yeah, like if you if it's a good
day and you yeah, so then you get like five six.
Speaker 2 (39:46):
You know, some guys will go off and just get like.
Speaker 1 (39:48):
Eight, yeah, and the coaches are like, all right, well
his max is.
Speaker 2 (39:51):
Going up, yeah exactly, and then they'll bump up your
max accordingly.
Speaker 1 (39:55):
Yeah. So this kid probably had over five point fifty
five fifty plus on the bar and did it four
or five six times, Like I cannot imagine, dude, yeah.
Speaker 2 (40:05):
And the reason we do that instead of like one
actual like powerlifting one reps, Like we don't need guys
getting hurt just to see how much they can actually squat, yeah,
trying to get a strength assessment on them, so we
can program workouts accordingly. But we don't need to be
like busting out, yeah, actually putting that much weight on
the ball.
Speaker 1 (40:25):
Yeah. I cringe every time I see a school post
like a hype video where like a highlight of some
of their guys hitting a one RM and it is
a true one r M, and I'm like, God, damn,
why are you risking injury?
Speaker 2 (40:37):
Yeah, go be a powerlifting team. That's not the goal here.
Speaker 1 (40:42):
You're like, you're you have five years to play football
and you're risking paralyzation over a one rep max. Like
there's six guys spotting. You don't do that right. And
if if you've ever been a client or done one
of my programs, I never, for I never. I don't
remember the last time I personally one RM other than
my deadlift the other day. That was the first time
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in forever. And if I program for clients, I'm doing
a five r M every time, and we're just trying
to constantly improve your five r M, and that'll calculate
your one r M. I don't know, it's it's crazy,
but hey, nonetheless, these guys are fucking strong. Excuse my language.
We'll keep going here cautiously optimistic that some of these
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guys that are going to have to fill in the
two spots on the offensive line are in a better
spot than some of these guys that are now graduating
were a couple of years ago when they had to
step in. He thinks they can maintain that standard, and
that standard was pretty damn good for the running game
last year. He says, then in mentions like hey, if
we've got a QB that knows what they're doing, thinks
I think we have a guy that might fill that
(41:46):
role that'll help on the passing game side, help with
the offensive lines. Pass blocking opens up the game too.
Speaker 2 (41:52):
Yeah, it's it's everything gets a hell of a lot
easier when.
Speaker 1 (41:56):
It's looking it's looking good all around. I think as
far as the offensive line tight ends and quarterback goes,
I think the big question this year's receiver for for
for the Iowha guys, and and that's we're gonna have
to answer that.
Speaker 2 (42:08):
I think we got some suitable guys. You know, Jacob
Gill had a serviceable yeah, like he he he had.
I think he approved throughout the year and became a
pretty solid receiver.
Speaker 1 (42:19):
You know.
Speaker 2 (42:20):
Vander Z's a young kid, but he's big target. It's
got long arms and go up and get it. And
then we got we got Weech and Beck, speedy little guy.
Speaker 1 (42:30):
I love that guy.
Speaker 2 (42:31):
I think we have enough to do what we need
to do in the past year.
Speaker 1 (42:34):
I do too, especially with you know, supposedly the evolution
of Lesser's offense in year two. It'll be exciting to see.
Speaker 2 (42:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (42:41):
Here's the here's probably the most interesting part of the
press conference. They asked about, you know, the roster cuts,
like they got to be at one oh five by August,
and he was critical again, He's like, you know, if
I could offer some advice on the hindsight here, Like
it would have been nice if they would have given
us one year or two years to do this, like
cut down from sunrise it like get to one fifteen
(43:01):
this year and then get to one oh five next year. Yeah,
it would have it would have been a lot easier
to do. keV says the words quote unquote like I
think we're in the minority, and how we approach this.
Back in December, keV before the Bowl game, they told
these guys straight up, if they could guarantee them a
one oh five spot or if they could not.
Speaker 2 (43:22):
Okay, what else would you ask? I mean, as a player,
I'd appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (43:26):
Absolutely, because then it gives you that that break over
the you know, it's it's tight, but you could at
least try and get to a new school by spring.
Speaker 2 (43:32):
Yeah, you can go transfer or you you know that
you've got to fight for your spot this spring.
Speaker 1 (43:38):
Yeah, And so he he said, you know, right now,
the words roster's pretty much under control. They are where
they need to be already numbers wise. So that's so
that's great, And I love the way that they did that.
He thinks that most schools did not do that, at
least from talking to other guys.
Speaker 2 (43:55):
And I mean, if you're just going to like game
theory this out, you're just like, I don't want these guys,
this group of talented people to be on other teams.
So from it like the least human humane way possible.
It is like, yeah, I'm gonna hold onto these guys
as long as I can come August or whatever, I'll
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spit them out into the NCAA and other people won't
be able to use them.
Speaker 1 (44:21):
But dude, like, just like everything else, Like, what do
you expect? KF plays good ball? You know, he plays good,
clean ball, and he like, this is just one more
thing the right way to do it. It's just one
more thing that's like KF if you've ever questioned him
at the helm, just another example of him doing shit
the right way, being upfront, being transparent. I guarantee those
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players are gonna already respect and appreciate the way he
went about that. And you know, it was a tough
situation for everybody, no matter how you did it. I
think he handled it about as good as you could.
So I will say, you know, being where they're at
and feeling good about where they are roster number wise
all ready heading into springball is a really really good
(45:02):
spot to be.
Speaker 2 (45:03):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (45:04):
You know, you have who you have, and you know
that that's your that's your team that you're going to
war with, and you can kind of buy into your
one oh five couple departures, Uh, somewhat surprising, and this
maybe gets them closer to that one oh five number.
I guess uh, john Nester secondary guy got a lot
(45:24):
of quality time, meaningful time, you know, as a backup
the last couple of years special teams. Was someone who
we thought was going to elevate, maybe be a starter
for us, play real significant role. He enters the portal
yesterday as well as Max White, who was in a
walk on. I don't know the reason for him, Speculation
(45:46):
around nestor having some nil offers out there that that
pulled him away, but yeah, a couple of guys who
I mean, White's been in the program for four years. Man,
like he he had nine carries thirty eight year, played
a ton of Special teams, just a you know, one
of those blue collar coaches kids, just cerebral, you know,
(46:09):
walk on still a walk on. I imagine he was
able to go and find some sort of compensation or
at least a role where he was going to have,
you know, he could play, he could play every down
at running backs.
Speaker 2 (46:22):
Man, I forget his name. He was from a small
town northwest Sile Noah Clayburg, Clayburg, Yep, yeah, like he
would have been a really good football player, but then
he decided to transfer to small school and like just
just play like every down there. And he went and
played quarterback at Dort Yeah something like that.
Speaker 1 (46:40):
Yeah, wild dude. He was so good on special teams
as a true freshman and then he's just like nah,
d one football eight for me.
Speaker 2 (46:47):
Yeah, yeah, I can see that. I mean that's you know,
some people just like you know this, this is the
kid's last year of eligibility. It's like, I want to
go play somewhere, you know, I want to go be
the running back somewhere or something like that.
Speaker 1 (47:00):
And to be honest, keV, I don't know if there's
something that I could respect anymore.
Speaker 2 (47:05):
Likely, it's a lot to walk away from.
Speaker 1 (47:08):
Dude. These kids that do that shit, they love football
and they just want to play. And I felt some
of that as a long snapper at times at Iowa.
I was cool with it because damn it was fun
to run out and be part of and be a
starter on a Division one football team, play in front
of seventy thousand. I'm a heathen, keV. That's what I
(47:29):
did it for, right. I wanted the lights, I wanted
that D one tag, I wanted the free meals. I
did it for all the wrong fucking reasons. I'm a
horrible person. Dude. These guys they don't care. They want
to go play, And like, every once in a while,
I'd have that creeping feeling of like, dude, what if
I went D two and played linebacker? What if I
(47:49):
went What if I just went to Central where my
wife went and just fucking played linebacker for four years
and just had fun, man like got to tackle people.
Would I have ct PROP but with the four years
would have been cool? Yes? No, Yeah, I don't regret
a single thing, but man, there is I get it.
I understand it. Sad to lose guys in the portal.
(48:15):
Seemed like Nestor was going to be a contributor. Last
thing I have here is, uh, we'll just quickly look
at the depth charts. Those came out today again Spring
depth charts. Who really you know, who really knows? See
if I can get this bigger for Kevin God, I
just don't know how to make it any bigger because
it makes it bigger on my screen, but then it
doesn't make it bigger on yours. Hey, dude, make it bigger. Bro, God,
(48:41):
I don't know. I can read it for the most part,
So we'll start on the defensive side of the ball.
Llewellyn Grant, who wasn't able to make it tonight. Grant's
got a big boy job. Llewellyn six five two sixty
going to be bringing all that experience the defensive line.
At the left end spot we got.
Speaker 2 (49:01):
We got Keevon Merriwell's little brother behind him.
Speaker 1 (49:03):
That is that is not his little brother. I do
not think that's his little brother, but Kenneth Merriweather, young kid.
A lot of promise, a lot of a lot of
promise from him in the recruiting cycle. I think Graves
is back. That was a big get again back at
left tackle. Jeremiah Pittman, he came on the show two
summers ago. Uh currently slotted in as the right tackle
and then herk it at right end. Dude, I love
(49:26):
that d line. A lot of a lot of experience
coming back there. Uh at the LEO position. Jackson Rexroth,
hell of a name.
Speaker 2 (49:36):
I think he's a former walk on kid. I don't
know if he's still a walk on or not.
Speaker 1 (49:39):
But Cedar Rapid Savior, love it. Middle linebacker Jaden Herrel
and Will Will linebacker Carson Schier. We've heard about these guys.
Speaker 2 (49:49):
We've heard about this is the big question mark this year,
and you know our podcast with with the two outgoing
linebackers had a lot of good things to say about
these guys.
Speaker 1 (49:58):
So at a good thing. We're here at left corner. TJ.
Hall obviously has a ton of experience looking for him
to take the next step on the other corner. DeShawn
Lee same thing, a lot of experience. Basically, just need
those guys to elevate find themselves finally as uh as
guys who are like really locked down cornerbacks. And then
(50:18):
here's some fun news. keV Xavier Wampa he's gonna be
playing free safety moving over from strong safety.
Speaker 2 (50:26):
Yeah, I can see that for sure.
Speaker 1 (50:28):
Cohen Entringer taking over the current one slot at the
strong safety. What do you think there? What what's the
idea behind that movie thing?
Speaker 2 (50:37):
You know, I think Conan might just be a little
bit more athletic, and you know that.
Speaker 1 (50:46):
Isn't it crazy to say that he's that he's more
athletic than Xavier Wampa the five star. Yeah, but I
think what I he's more suited for that role.
Speaker 2 (50:55):
Yeah, there's there's a few things like you want your
strong safety to be a little bit more of a thumper,
come up and make plays. And we also ask our
strong safety to do get put in some stressful situations
that some extra athleticism really helps out with.
Speaker 1 (51:12):
Yeah. Over on the offense, Oh oh my god, I
just did what everybody what I rail people for. I
didn't even tell the specialists. We already talked about them.
Drew Stevens restaking, and then Ike spelts out of van
meter very close to Walke over here, we're in number
ninety seven. My guy gonna be our current long snapper.
(51:32):
I love to see it on the offensive side of
the ball, returning Bo Stevens, Logan, Jones, Jennings, Dunker. Those
will be the three that you know. Cad Peeper I
Colt's been huge on this guy. He thinks he could
step in and be a player right away. Over on
right guard left tackle, currently have Jack Dottzler and Trevor
Lauch behind him, a young guy, both guys who have
(51:54):
heard great things about We'll see, like I said, k
I've said, they feel like good things. I mean.
Speaker 2 (52:00):
And as the last time we had a little bit
of offensive line rebuild, which is a couple of years ago,
is you know, this guy's coming in as a junior
to start versus like remember think back to like twenty one,
twenty two, Like these were all young guys stepping into the.
Speaker 1 (52:15):
Young to the young sophomore's freshmen. You look at the
tight end position, you got the two studs, the two
you know, a Stranga and Ortworth, They're gonna be there.
Like we lose Lache, I don't think we lose a
whole lot though. We're gonna fill right in with those
two guys Kamario Molton, Jazzy and Patterson kind of crazy.
We retain jazz in my opinion, like to be honest,
(52:39):
but those are two guys at running back. We know
what we're getting with them. I'm excited to see what
they can do with them sharing those two reps. Currently
without Gronowski, Sullivan is our our number one, Hank Brown
is our number two at quarterback. And then the wide
receivers that we talked about, Probably the the area where
we need to find something is Jacob gill Seth Anderson,
(53:01):
the transfer we got from Charleston Southern a year ago.
And then r VZ, the young kid who got Just
imagine if he's put on some he says, he's two
o seven, guy's got a frame on him. So you
gotta like, you gotta like we see.
Speaker 2 (53:15):
I mean, there's potential here. There's definitely potential here. And
it's gonna come back to, like, what type of play
can we get out of our quarterback? Can our wide
receivers step up and make the next you know, take
the next step in their development, and can we plug
those holes in the offensive line.
Speaker 1 (53:33):
It's all about plugging holes.
Speaker 2 (53:34):
Man, We're a big plugin holes podcast.
Speaker 1 (53:40):
Go plug them holes. No, I think you're right. The
uh it's almost like we've been lolled over the past
four years. And again, nobody's fault. We had injuries, we had,
we just couldn't find the right guy. We just couldn't
last year. We didn't have guys in the system long enough.
We've almost been lolled into a spot where we don't
really remember what it's like to have a quarterback that
(54:01):
really can control the offense. He commands that offense, and
I think it's it goes unsaid, Like Nate Stanley, I
think it's so underrated. What happens when you have a
guy that can do that, How that opens up the
other positions and if we can get that, keV, we
might see some shit this year that we just haven't
seen in a while. I'm excited for it. Shout out
(54:23):
to the IOWAG council. Fill those holes with some eggs.
I don't know that's enough.
Speaker 2 (54:30):
Only only one. There's only one acceptable hole to do
that with.
Speaker 1 (54:35):
I gotta get off here before we get canceled. Shout
out to IEWAG counsel and everybody else for listening to
the show, joining keV and I talking about Iowa football,
what we love to do. We'll be back. I think
we got Deontay Craig w got that dub. Yeah, we
got him. We got Lima coming up on a spring
Ball episode. Lots more coming down the pipe. And that's
(54:58):
I'll end it. Eat your eggs, Hey, thanks for listening
to the show. If you want more, you can check
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(55:20):
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