From Iowa Football to Real Estate Success with Travis Perry | WUW 582 - Washed Up Walkons

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Travis Perry joins the show today, second time he's been
on all the way Back in episode ninety one, somewhere
in the nineties, Travis has gotten himself into real estate,
post college career, post Iowah Hawkeys, him and his wife
were running a legitimate airbnb business that's continuing to grow.
We hear more about his career at Iowa and more
about his post career in property ownership and what he
does day to day. Now, awesome episode. Great catching up

(00:22):
with Travis. Let's have a day.

Speaker 2 (00:23):
Let's go.

Speaker 3 (00:50):
Is he back in Arizona?

Speaker 2 (00:53):
Still in Arizona?

Speaker 3 (00:53):
Yeah, okay, because he was in Nashville for a while.

Speaker 2 (00:55):
Right, Yeah, Oh, look at that.

Speaker 3 (00:58):
It's up psych Ward big tune.

Speaker 2 (01:01):
What's going on, dude?

Speaker 3 (01:03):
Dude? Your setup looks legit behind you?

Speaker 4 (01:05):
Yeah, you know, you know you got to put on
the uh, put on all the effects make people think
you actually know a thing or two.

Speaker 2 (01:12):
It's a fake background. It's one of those facts. I
haven't read any of those books. Behind me whatsoever?

Speaker 3 (01:17):
Virtual background. Yeah, it's all about the looks, man, I
get a.

Speaker 2 (01:19):
Lot of the looks.

Speaker 1 (01:20):
Right official intro. Travis Perry joins the show. Those more
of like a Joe Rogan intro. We're just caught up
in the middle of a conversation and I start the show,
which I kind of like naturally, But.

Speaker 2 (01:30):
Travis has been on the show before.

Speaker 1 (01:31):
If I was a good podcast host, I would have
gone back and gotten the exact episode where he came on.

Speaker 2 (01:36):
I don't remember what it was. It would have been
before Grant, obviously, because he just introduced himself.

Speaker 1 (01:41):
I'm guessing somewhere in the early four hundreds, maybe late
three hundreds, So if you're interested in that, probably more
of his backstory will be talked about there.

Speaker 2 (01:52):
I think I don't remember what we talked about.

Speaker 1 (01:53):
I imagine we went over how Travis got to iowen
all the good things. Today we're just going to catch up,
and I think this guy's real estate mogul.

Speaker 2 (02:00):
Now from what I.

Speaker 1 (02:01):
From what I can uh a strong word from what
I gather, Well, he's on his way, and I'm very
interested in what he's doing now and his dad life
and and and everything that is.

Speaker 2 (02:11):
So how is life, man, how are you doing?

Speaker 3 (02:13):
It's good. I was just thinking about it. I don't
think I had a kid when I was on this podcast.
I've got three Now I could be wrong, but I'm
pretty sure it was a while ago.

Speaker 2 (02:23):
Okay, So that would be Perry is going to single
handle lease, I've got a four year.

Speaker 1 (02:29):
Okay, so you would have been way back then. It
would have been like the two hundred. I gotta pull
it up, Pull up, Travis.

Speaker 3 (02:34):
Perry Washington had been a while ago, though, unless I'm
way off being a rocket okay.

Speaker 2 (02:39):
So okay, so really update this then?

Speaker 1 (02:40):
How is?

Speaker 2 (02:41):
How is? What's the different?

Speaker 1 (02:42):
I mean, I know, somewhat number two on the way
for me, but yeah, rats, which, by the way, you
were like one of the first ones to text me.
I was like, was that yeah? I was like, I
was like Travis, I was like, I don't ever expect anything, uh,
especially me. It wasn't really a social butterfly this.

Speaker 2 (03:01):
Episode ninety one, oh Ship, we had him on way back.

Speaker 3 (03:04):
So it was let's see, when did you guys start?

Speaker 2 (03:07):
February seventeenth, twenty twenty. It was one for the last.

Speaker 3 (03:10):
Time, man, those COVID. I was pre COVID.

Speaker 2 (03:14):
I think you started COVID. Actually you kicked it off.

Speaker 4 (03:18):
Well, there's there's there's rumor of another coronavirus in China,
so maybe maybe we're gonna kick off another one here.

Speaker 3 (03:24):
Is that finally confirmed or we're saying it from China? Now?
Is that a thing?

Speaker 1 (03:27):
I'm pretty sure that's confirmed. Yeah, In fact, I'm pretty
sure it was a lab leak confirmed.

Speaker 2 (03:32):
Like I think all that is, it's pretty much like
all but confirmed. Yeah. Yeah, Uh another COVID. Good opportunity
to improve my immune system.

Speaker 3 (03:42):
Full of DOACO action.

Speaker 2 (03:44):
I love it.

Speaker 1 (03:45):
Uh, I would, I really do, and would start my
day with that every day if I could, and remembered.
I think I should just have it loaded on a
on a table on the on the other side, do you.

Speaker 2 (03:55):
Remember when Doyle first played that for us?

Speaker 3 (03:57):
TeV Oh incredible. You guys write all the buck. We
read all Jocko's books.

Speaker 2 (04:02):
I've read two of them.

Speaker 1 (04:03):
Two of them, yeah, yeah, Extreme Ownership and what's the
other one, like a manual to.

Speaker 3 (04:11):
It's economy is an Economy of.

Speaker 2 (04:13):
Economy of Leadership? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (04:14):
Yeah, both great books.

Speaker 1 (04:16):
First time you played that video, the goosebumps in the
room were like they were tangible.

Speaker 2 (04:22):
You could it was like, oh my god, oh it
was uh, it was fully tended. You want to tee
up a room of one hundred and twenty individuals. My god,
we would I mean, we could have played a game
right then and there.

Speaker 3 (04:33):
Dude, those all staff, all staff, all team meetings, some
of those videos you put up incredible. I missed that stuff.
I was just talking to my dad the other day
about just all the notes I used to have. I
don't know where they went. I wish I still had them.
But the notebooks we used to fill up with KF
and Doyle and all those guys, I wish I do
you guys still have those?

Speaker 2 (04:52):
No, man, I kind of wish I did, though.

Speaker 1 (04:55):
That makes me feel It makes me feel a little
bit better that you guys don't know where yours is
at because I was the asshole who wasn't taking a
lot of notes.

Speaker 2 (05:04):
And I'll be honestly back and there uh snapped the ball,
Yeah to the punter some time to the holder. Yeah
it dude. It was that simple.

Speaker 1 (05:13):
I did not try to over complicate things.

Speaker 5 (05:17):
I still got my I still got the punt book.

Speaker 1 (05:20):
I can pull out the punk laybook right now.

Speaker 2 (05:23):
Lots of the defensive one though.

Speaker 3 (05:26):
Oh man, I've never seen that punt playbook for one
special team was incredible.

Speaker 2 (05:33):
Defensive one, dude. It was insane. Hey, punt team was
more important than defense, dude.

Speaker 3 (05:40):
We had seven thousand fakes lined up. Never used one,
you guys, Yeah, you guys did obviously, but.

Speaker 2 (05:48):
That was no we did. We did do a couple
of punt fakes our senior year.

Speaker 1 (05:53):
US used one in sixteen as well. I'm pretty sure
against still an or is that seventeen.

Speaker 2 (06:03):
What I'm remembering from Illinois is when we did the
punt return kind of trick play.

Speaker 1 (06:10):
So you'll remember I'm referencing Amani Hooker.

Speaker 2 (06:13):
I short snapped it to him at sixteen. I thought
that was seventeen. I thought it was sixteen, but it
could have been seventeen. I don't remember. It was right
before half. We got a ton of yardage out of it. Yeah,
that's what that was what I was thinking of, too.

Speaker 3 (06:24):
What was it? Was it just drug snap like?

Speaker 1 (06:26):
It was just yeah, we just we just had the
look where we had the numbers and we put him.
I don't know if Amani I'm pretty sure he was
not in that up back position all year.

Speaker 2 (06:36):
No, he was the h he was like the guard.
He was part of the core.

Speaker 1 (06:40):
Yeah, and so he was, so he wasn't it was
you know because they you know, Trav like when when
we would go into those meetings, you know the personnel numbers,
so that if something was funky, you could pretty much
identify it because I mean you were like keV, you
played all four and so to see a money out there,
that was the whole thing.

Speaker 2 (06:59):
It was like, oh, he's on, he's.

Speaker 1 (07:00):
On the punt, so nothing's up then, But then the
tempo of us breaking the huddle, he just all of
a sudden was back and it was quick. It was
like a quick count, very slightly direct snap to him,
a couple of lead blockers up the way, and I
think we were one block away from.

Speaker 2 (07:17):
Just housing it for like sixty yards right before halftime.
It was Drake normally in that spot. Was he pissed
off that he didn't?

Speaker 3 (07:25):
You were absolutely took the offensive guy out to put
a defensive guy in there to run.

Speaker 2 (07:29):
A Drake is Drake is still pissed about that.

Speaker 1 (07:32):
I remember when Amani got paid on his lap on
his big contract off of his rookie deal, and we
brought that up maybe in a on a on a
DHT on the Patreon pod, and Drake was like, I'm
I'm willing to admit that Wallace made a good decision
putting a money in that in that spot over me.

(07:53):
I'm finally willing to admit that seven years later, Like, yeah, Drake,
we're going to give you the ball versus a Moni hook.

Speaker 3 (08:00):
Did you guys? Was it twenty thirteen who played Alice
in the out back ball? Right?

Speaker 2 (08:05):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (08:06):
You guys, that was your freshman year that so do you.
You might not recall this then, but we ran that
fake punt and it was similar, although we were in
the punt Pro back then, so it was different from
that standpoint. But we brought in Mark Weisman to be
the the PP guy, who was our starting running back
at the time, and uh yeah, the fake didn't work

(08:28):
out quite so well. Pull them to run the basically
the power out of it. So they're all just pointing out.
I'm like, hey, the starting running backs in the personal
and we got absolutely ship stomped on the play.

Speaker 2 (08:40):
Yeah, that team had some dudes, man.

Speaker 3 (08:43):
They were they were good.

Speaker 2 (08:46):
But I mean it just.

Speaker 4 (08:47):
Because the show like it, Tiaks, you got to be
a lot more subtle when you're running fakes, right, the
starting running back and special team that is not normally on.

Speaker 3 (08:56):
Yeah, yeah, you pretty obvious go off too.

Speaker 1 (09:00):
And the guy you almost want to put in on
those if you're going to run something is like like
grab the most trusted athletic freshman you have that's like
only played a little bit of special teams and you're
just like just give give the all around athlete in
the newest fresh freshman class the ball and just let
the just trust them because the other team is not
going to get tipped.

Speaker 2 (09:20):
Off by by that kid being in the game.

Speaker 1 (09:23):
They're just going to think like, oh, they've got a
two or three in there, like somebody's heard or you know,
we've never seen this guy before. He doesn't play any
other positions on offense, so like he's not going to
hurt us. And then like if it was Cooper dejan
freshman year, they would have been.

Speaker 2 (09:34):
Like, oh that's tough for us.

Speaker 1 (09:38):
Yeah, I don't know who that would have been in
our class C. I guess maybe, like I mean, Desmond started,
I don't know. I mean, that's that's why I would
put it that position.

Speaker 2 (09:46):
Yeah, yeah, I don't know. I'm not sure how we
got off topic on that.

Speaker 1 (09:50):
But so zero kids last time you were on too,
three kids, now.

Speaker 3 (09:55):
Three kids yeah, got nothing old, four year old, almost
three year old, and almost one year old, which is crazy.

Speaker 2 (10:01):
So life is probably pretty much the same as it
was before.

Speaker 3 (10:04):
Nothing different, just a little bit more expensive.

Speaker 2 (10:08):
Tell me about it. What's your what's your day to
day look like right now?

Speaker 3 (10:12):
I mean, I've got a full time job, so I
can't really complain because my wife stays home with the
three kids and runs are real estate side of the
business while I go to go work a day job,
so I can't really complain. I only get like two
or three hours with them before they go to bed,
so that kind of sucks.

Speaker 1 (10:26):
But I how close is the dream to not work
the day job? Because it kills me that you still
do after I So I listened to you and your
wife go on a podcast with is like a real
estate or like money focus podcast. I'm not sure what
it was, and not that I know exactly the financial

(10:47):
backing of things. Obviously you have to be able to
pay your bills and all that, but it sounds like
you guys are on your way to like if you
continue to own properties, and we're going to get into
all of it here because I'm super fucking I'm curious,
very curious, uh that.

Speaker 2 (11:01):
You could eventually not have the Where do you work
Green State?

Speaker 3 (11:05):
Yeah? Yep, what do you do there?

Speaker 2 (11:07):
You're just a pretty face or.

Speaker 3 (11:08):
So say that.

Speaker 2 (11:09):
Now.

Speaker 3 (11:10):
Currently I'm the VP of Commercial Operations, So like any
commercial real estate deal, I manage the back end of it.
So like loan docs, servicing, life alone, all that stuff
is my team, ESCRO, taxes, insurance, all that stuff. But
most recently, I'm actually transitioning to a new role here
in the next two weeks, about three weeks so I'll

(11:31):
be VP of private Banking. It's a new role. Basically
I'll be working with the high net worth clients and
just kind of helping them to achieve their financial goals.
So new division will be new challenge, but it's it's exciting.

Speaker 2 (11:45):
Let me do, guys, thirty three year old VP man,
Let me tell you what.

Speaker 3 (11:51):
Thirty two, don't age me. Don't age me. Thirty two.

Speaker 2 (11:54):
Tell you what.

Speaker 1 (11:54):
This fucking guy right here he knows how to get down.

Speaker 2 (11:57):
I tell you what. Vice president of Elite banking Individuals.

Speaker 4 (12:03):
He's a four face special team guy. He can be
a four phase finance guy.

Speaker 2 (12:07):
Banking guy too.

Speaker 3 (12:08):
You have commercial I'm on phase three I did the
retail and then the commercial and now private banking. So
I'm on phase three or four.

Speaker 1 (12:15):
So rich people are just gonna come to you or
Green State and then they funneled you and you're like, yeah.

Speaker 2 (12:20):
Let me. Then you go longer their money for them.

Speaker 3 (12:22):
Yeah, you know, I haven't built the program yet, so
I'll get back to you maybe maybe episode number three.
I'm on, I can go over that, but it's in
the works. Yeah, I'll be working with a lot of
like wealth management clients, and I'll still be working with
commercial clients as well, treasury management, that sort of stuff.

Speaker 1 (12:36):
Is that the current role you're about to transition out of.
Is that where you got into real estate or did
it sounded like on the podcast I listened to you
and your wife actually had like these ideas of owning and.

Speaker 2 (12:48):
Getting into real estate, like kind of in college.

Speaker 3 (12:51):
Yeah. So to answer the first part of your question, no,
it wasn't what got me into real estate. I would
say it kind of helped propel the real estate portfolio
we have from the standpoint of like you get to
kind of learn the ins and outs of how people
build their wealth, you know, at a more local level
type of thing. And kind of the behind the scenes stuff.
All of our all of our stuff since I started

(13:14):
at Green State on the commercial side, all of it's
out of state. So I haven't actually done a deal
in state since I started at green State. The stuff
in Iowa was done pre green State, and we can
get into that too. But yeah, senior year at college,
we were actually coming back from Northwestern, which I believe
was our seventh, seventh or eighth game. So we're well,

(13:35):
twelve and oh seven, number seven, big win, right, forty
forty to ten? Is that right? But it's worth good
that year too. Yeah, and we were down a lot
of people, I mean with our offense especially, it was
not down a lot of guys.

Speaker 1 (13:49):
I think, Yeah, I think we're down down like fourth
and fifth string running backs Akram and d Mitch had
tore the load.

Speaker 3 (13:55):
Yeah, and they went off that game to get like
four rushing touchdowns or something. Is crazy. A lot of
special teams action in that game. Two. But yeah, we
were driving back, which is what one of three places
we'd drive to, I think, is it? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (14:11):
Pretty much? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (14:12):
Yeah, so I have a little bit more time on
our hands driving back, right, because usually it's a forty
minute flight, you grab something, eat and shoot the shit
with your boys in your home. Was driving back, and
I was in an entrepreneurial class where you had to study.
You had to study somebody successful and like basically write
a paper on it. There weren't much more guidelines besides that.

(14:32):
But I'd read a forty forty under forty article of
the state of Iowa, and so I thought, what the hell,
I'll reach out to some of these guys and gals
and see if they'll let me pick their brain a
little bit. And I ended up shooting like fifteen of
them an email, and six or seven got back to me.
And so right after the season ended, it was kind
of one of those things like, Hey, this is who

(14:54):
I am. Can you help me write this paper and
then we can eat later on down the road type
of thing. Chat GPT wasn't a was the things back
twenty fifteen, so you actually had to do a little
bit of work.

Speaker 1 (15:03):
I would have chat cheap bet this shit out of college,
by the way, I mean, it would have been unbelievable
the amounts of less work I was already doing.

Speaker 2 (15:11):
Guy, that's just a side change.

Speaker 3 (15:13):
It would be both If you know how to use
that thing and all the AI stuff. It's it's it's
next level for sure. But anyways, like six or seven
got back to me and I met with them after
the season and just said, hey, lucky get my career's
come to an end. I'm not doing the NFL route.
I really don't know what I want to do. Can
I you know, can you act as my mentor and

(15:33):
allow me to pick your brain and stuff, Which, looking
back now that I've been in the industry ten years,
I probably sounded like an absolute idiot when I was
reaching out these people that were extremely busy, being like, hey,
can I grab you a cup of coffee and waste
your time for a half hour? But they did. And
the one it was interesting because there were from like
all different industries, right. You had people in the medical industry,

(15:54):
you had CEO, CFOs, entrepreneurs, attorneys. I met with like
it was all over the place. And all six or
seven of them that I met with, they all owned
some type of real estate yep. And so I was like, Okay,
there's you know, I've heard of it. My parents owned
a apartment building by Drake University. Growing up. It was

(16:15):
just a single family house that had multiple levels. They
rented but held there for like forty years and didn't
really think much of it. But they held it that
long unless have done well, right. And so after hearing
these six or seven individuals talk about real estate, that
is really what drove me down the rabbit hole and
started getting into the books. And Yeah, when I met
my fiance, my girlfriend turned fiance at the time, we

(16:40):
decided the first place we buy, we want to buy
it with the intentions to turn it into a rental.
And that is how we got to start. So we
bought a first place in twenty seventeen. Twenty seventeen was
our first rental.

Speaker 1 (16:51):
Oh good, Kevin and they were still playing.

Speaker 4 (16:54):
So it was Perry's Wealth Building Management were one house
for the pandemic.

Speaker 3 (17:02):
Seriously, I wish I would have got more more or.

Speaker 1 (17:04):
During wasn't that Like, wasn't it during twenty twenty that
like everybody was.

Speaker 3 (17:08):
Oh, everybody, yeah, to your mortgage at two and a quarter?
It was insane.

Speaker 1 (17:13):
Yeah, I bought a house this past summer and I
basically wanted to throw myself off a building. Running the
numbers on the difference between two and a half percent
rate versus a six and a half percent rate, and
if I talk about it enough, I could put my head.

Speaker 2 (17:28):
Through the computer screen right now. Was that part of
the is your wife's name Reagan? Yeah? Is that right? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (17:34):
Okay, so you know, you meet Reagan like, and I
don't know how long you guys had known each other, but.

Speaker 2 (17:39):
Like first date, you're like, Hey, here's the deal. We're
going to make this thing work. We're buying fucking properties.

Speaker 3 (17:46):
Okay, not on the first date. It may have been
the second or third, but it was early on. I'm like, hey,
first place we buy, you know this thing works out,
which it did, fortunately.

Speaker 5 (17:55):
But as you guys kill a talk right there, and
it's like, one day it's gonna be a gonna be
a property we're going to live in for like six months,
and then it's going to be a rental, so it
might not be the nicest property we buy.

Speaker 2 (18:06):
That's the Perry's love language.

Speaker 1 (18:08):
They're like, oh, babe, I found this two story I've
had a four plex.

Speaker 2 (18:13):
It's gonna be amazing.

Speaker 3 (18:15):
Now. Usually, honestly, usually it's me saying there's an awesome,
like nineteen fifty house that we can flip and make
a lot of money, and she's like, yeah, if it
wasn't built before or after twenty twenty, I'm not interested.
So usually back and forth on what we actually buy.

Speaker 2 (18:30):
So you, God, you're so smart.

Speaker 1 (18:32):
That's such a anybody young, if there's college kids listening
to this, do it, Travested, reach out to people, make connections.

Speaker 2 (18:40):
It's all about who.

Speaker 1 (18:41):
You know, right, figuring that out later in life.

Speaker 2 (18:43):
Now, Uh, don't do it. I did.

Speaker 1 (18:46):
I played a lot of Fortnite, watched a lot of
Game of Thrones. Okay, there's just a lot.

Speaker 2 (18:50):
Of you don't regret a minute of it, though, do you?

Speaker 1 (18:52):
Uh not for that, not for the sake of the
enjoyment there, but like sure as hell, do wish that
I was a little smarter or like use my time?
Like Travis is reaching out to these guys, It's funny
you say that, like you, you probably sounded stupid to
them because like, what are they supposed supposed to expect?

Speaker 2 (19:10):
Right?

Speaker 1 (19:10):
Like, imagine one of the guys on the team reached
out to you right now and I was like, Hey,
can I pick your brain over a cup of coffee?
You wouldn't think twice about that. You'd be like, yeah,
that's he's just trying to figure it out, Like you
were a senior and everybody goes, maybe you were going
through that moment or maybe you were less worried about
But some guys are like very concerned about what their
life looks like in several months when their career is over.

Speaker 2 (19:33):
Like, I got to figure some shit out. I have to.
I gotta know what I'm doing here.

Speaker 3 (19:37):
And to be fair to to you, Tyler and Kevin
and myself, like there really wasn't much guidance back when
we played. Maybe maybe the last two years for you
guys there was, but like not a.

Speaker 2 (19:47):
Little bit better. I want was your senior year twenty fifteen,
the first year we did those networking events.

Speaker 3 (19:55):
That networking Yeah, yeah, we did one networking back because
I remember like the Nike guy came in and there
were a few former players and stuff. But yeah, that
that was the first time. That was my senior year
they did it.

Speaker 2 (20:06):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (20:06):
Yeah, so they they kind of leaned into that a
little bit more, uh, our last couple of years. But yeah,
I think they're doing a lot better job of it now.

Speaker 2 (20:17):
Yeah, I mean Kevin's talked about his I mean, yeah,
that's basically how I got into my career. Too. Through
those network events. It's like, all right, half.

Speaker 4 (20:28):
The dudes that they just brought back so they do
medical sales. I gotta I got to figure out what
the hell this is. It seems like something that an
Iowa football player can do decently well.

Speaker 1 (20:37):
At Yeah, no podcasters at that event, there were no podcasters.

Speaker 3 (20:42):
It guys back to do the the event.

Speaker 1 (20:46):
No, they're not bringing my ass back in that building.

Speaker 2 (20:51):
Not a chance. Oh the breakouts that get a lot
of guys to go check out.

Speaker 1 (20:58):
Unfortunately, like sadly, with the way that everyone wants to
be like an influencer, like a creator, I probably would have,
like you have, they'd all come to Tyler Clue. Like
the coaches would be like if you guys fucking knew
about this guy this oh Clover's on the list, Holy shit,
what does he even do?

Speaker 2 (21:15):
Does he have a job? Oh saw, No, fu bitch.

Speaker 1 (21:19):
This guy I wanted to he tried to be on
kickoff team in twenty sixteen.

Speaker 2 (21:24):
Told him to sit on the fucking sideline.

Speaker 1 (21:27):
The Yeah, I've never I did get asked actually to
talk to Uh. I don't know if I ever told
you this, Kevin I got I was brought back to
talk to one of the department, like the education departments.

Speaker 2 (21:42):
I did a talk. I did like a zoom callosity.

Speaker 3 (21:44):
Yeah, unrelated to athletics.

Speaker 1 (21:47):
Yes, I was brought back as like a successful personal
trainer slash entrepreneur to talk to one of the health
and human physiology classes. You're shitting back in like twenty
twenty two.

Speaker 4 (21:59):
I think you never told me this one of about
teachers that we had.

Speaker 1 (22:04):
I did not know the person who brought me back.
It was me and her essentially did like it was
like this. She just kind of interviewed me. And then
was it like the class where like yeah, and the
class was in the way, Yeah, the class was like
all in the waiting room like kind of or a
viewing room. I don't remember what software we did it on,
but they were watching live and like I couldn't see
any of them, but it was just me and the

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professor and.

Speaker 2 (22:26):
They were just like asking about being personal trainers yep, yep.

Speaker 1 (22:29):
And then I and then I think from that I
was she used me as like a oh god, it
was like a industry professional to like mentor one of
the kids on their final project of like they're that
programming project we did CoV uh huh.

Speaker 2 (22:44):
I was like, oh my god, if you remember that one.

Speaker 1 (22:47):
Yeah, I was like, my goodness, if these kids knew
how much I didn't care about school and how not
serious I am as just an individual at all. Like,
but yeah, I uh, they would certainly not bring me
back in. You, Travis would be somebody they brought back.

Speaker 2 (23:02):
I would love to listen to you talk. Not so
much met Kevin too.

Speaker 1 (23:07):
I'm surprised Kevin hasn't been asked back as one of
the as one of the reps.

Speaker 3 (23:12):
Yeah, why not for the football team? Yeah, I don't
I was a communications major. I don't think they're going
to bring me back to talk about talking.

Speaker 2 (23:19):
No, I'm talking about the football team, not the I
don't know what.

Speaker 1 (23:22):
Yeah, communications, So a lot a lot of guys have
that communications major.

Speaker 3 (23:27):
I mean, did you guys when how many times did
you guys get called by Scott South made to go
in there and talk to the walk ons they were
trying to bring on. Were you guys always on.

Speaker 2 (23:37):
The play when they're doing recruiting visits?

Speaker 3 (23:40):
Yeah, it was like it was like every other day
is like we got some walk ons here, Travis, and
need you on the player pan. I'm like, yeah, on
like a scholarship player panel every now.

Speaker 2 (23:48):
And see you see you two were asked to do
those things. I was not.

Speaker 1 (23:54):
I was not asked to ever be I was. That
was I remember that, Thanks for bringing up.

Speaker 2 (23:58):
I'm still salty.

Speaker 5 (24:00):
Was never once, Yeah, player panels once a week.

Speaker 3 (24:04):
It probably wasn't.

Speaker 2 (24:05):
Yeah during this time period too.

Speaker 4 (24:07):
It's like, uh, yeah, I guess it would be different
now because the recruiting schedules all changed, but there's always.

Speaker 2 (24:13):
The parents asking the most questions though forget.

Speaker 3 (24:16):
Oh yeah, it is a good like, it is a
really good thing that some universities do that because you
get more truthful answers out of it.

Speaker 2 (24:24):
I think so.

Speaker 1 (24:24):
Yeah, I loved I can't remember who was on the
player panel when I did we.

Speaker 4 (24:29):
Do a player panel when we were on our official Yeah,
it was I remember Coop was on.

Speaker 2 (24:35):
It was Marshall Kine on it. I don't remember. I
just remember Coop because he was being Gari Cooper. Yeah,
because he was being as funny as hell. Like some
parents ask about like, hey, do they help you with like,
you know, like your bills and budget. He's like, nah,
you gotta be a grown man about that stuff. It's
like if you don't pay your water bill, they turn

(24:55):
off your water. I remember that. I remember that.

Speaker 3 (24:59):
O Oh, it's hilarious.

Speaker 2 (25:02):
Cool, unbelievable.

Speaker 1 (25:07):
Uh. One of the questions I wanted to ask you,
Travis was this randomly came to my mind, was you
were there for the season right before when we came in,
which was very, very different than any of the seasons
we experienced during our five years thirteen through seventeen. Our

(25:30):
worst year was that twenty fourteen season. We got smacked
by Tennessee. Like it was a bad season, but like
relatively seven and.

Speaker 2 (25:39):
Six, so we had high expectations for the year.

Speaker 1 (25:41):
Yeah, yeah, it was it was more of like you
guys underperformed in what.

Speaker 2 (25:45):
Six and one to open the year and then just.

Speaker 1 (25:47):
Yeah, we fell apart in the second half in the
bowl game, but like relatively above five hundred made a
bowl game, Like that's better than a lot of teams do.
Specifically the twenty twelve team, Uh, four and eight, And
we heard stories about like the training after that season
and like, talk to me about that.

Speaker 2 (26:09):
Team, like what what happened that year? What was going
on that year?

Speaker 3 (26:13):
Not only were we four and eight, like I should
have looked I should have looked this up, but I'm
pretty sure that was the year. Early on we beat
a ranked Michigan State team at Michigan State in overtime
in twenty twelve. I think that was one of our four.

Speaker 2 (26:27):
I do remember that. It's like kind of cold and rainy.

Speaker 3 (26:30):
Yeah, because I'll never forget we it was. It wasn't
one hundredth win, I think, yeah, I think it was.

Speaker 2 (26:38):
Yeah, it was a big win for him.

Speaker 3 (26:40):
It wasn't goal line, but they had the ball in
like the twelve or fifteen or twelve, so those red
zone going in and this was back when they had
Le'Veon Bell and uh Kurky, you are correct, by the way, Okay, yeah,
I thought because Greg Castillo picked it off to win
the game in overtime, I'm pretty sure. But they had
Le'Veon Bell and kirkseys helmet one off and so I

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was standing on this. I mean, I played a couple
of special teams early in the year. By the end
of the year I was on four, but early in
the year I was on two of them. So you know,
you run forty yards once every what thirty forty minutes,
and it was rainy and cold that day, and they
had Le'Veon Bell Kirkie's helmet pops up, so they're like, Perry,
you're in, and so I'm like, runt it out there,

(27:21):
throwing my helmet on. Fucking I'm the LEO linebacker. Powow,
I'm going in. I'm like, all right, I'm just gonna
blow this up. Guy cut blocks me, and I don't know,
I can't remember looking back on film if it was
a true cutter for the guy tripped or what. But
I legit did a full flip like three sixty feeter
in the air. He bounces it out, so I technically.

Speaker 2 (27:44):
Did if you get it from going downhill, I got.

Speaker 3 (27:48):
Inside the full back right. It was the guard that
got me, so I took out too. He bounced. It
was like a one yard game or something. Successful play.
But dude, that hurts so bad. I had a bruise
on my thigh for like five weeks.

Speaker 2 (28:00):
Was that your defense snap?

Speaker 3 (28:03):
It was not my first defensive snap, but it was
probably like one of my you know, maybe like my
eighth snap of the year on defense, Like it was
one of the first snaps the first But yeah, dude,
that was Leabon Bell was a freak double over time game.

Speaker 1 (28:18):
Yeah, double overtime game nineteen.

Speaker 4 (28:20):
That was Wiseman's breakout game, wasn't it That where he
kind of like it.

Speaker 3 (28:26):
Wasn't his breakout game, but it was his his started
his breakout season.

Speaker 2 (28:30):
Okay, so it.

Speaker 1 (28:33):
Looks like, yeah, so you guys opened that year and
I remember this specifically because you guys were at Soldier Field.
Soldier Field against barely One was just eighteen seventeen over
Northern Illinois lost, which.

Speaker 4 (28:48):
Was a good Northern Illinois team. I think that's the
only regular season lost that year.

Speaker 3 (28:52):
We lost good quarterback that was like Tim Tebow too.

Speaker 5 (28:55):
I can't think it was yeah, which yeah, yeahs.

Speaker 2 (29:01):
They played Florida State in the Orange Bowl that year.

Speaker 3 (29:05):
I think they were they were good.

Speaker 2 (29:07):
They're a good team.

Speaker 1 (29:07):
Lost to Iowa State beating you, and I lost to
Central Michigan.

Speaker 3 (29:12):
Yeah, I think I had some tackles that might have
been my first career tackle coaching.

Speaker 1 (29:18):
And then to open up the Big Ten season, I mean,
beat Minnesota, beat Michigan State, and then it was just
tough from there.

Speaker 2 (29:27):
It was it was tough.

Speaker 3 (29:29):
Well, so and you talk about you know that season
can be defined really in the Central Michigan game, because
we lost that game, right, you said, we lost.

Speaker 2 (29:37):
That game thirty two thirty one.

Speaker 3 (29:39):
So we had them stopped to win the game. And
one of our defensive players on the name names one
of our defensive players, senior guy right, gets a personal
foul fourth and fifteen or whatever, gets a personal foul,
automatic first down. They get like an eight yard player

(30:00):
next play and kick the gameling field goal. And it
was one of those like after the play, helmet slaps,
like what are you.

Speaker 2 (30:05):
Doing after the play? So they over you won, take
me and you won?

Speaker 3 (30:11):
Yep, oh, automatic first down. I mean it was like
an incomplete pass type of thing.

Speaker 1 (30:15):
And then you know, I uh, you are now describing
this and I can fucking remember listening to that.

Speaker 2 (30:23):
On the radio.

Speaker 3 (30:23):
Dude, it was holy smokes.

Speaker 1 (30:25):
That just brought back a memory from fifteen thirteen years ago. Wow,
that is crazy. You just triggered a memory. I don't
where I was listening to.

Speaker 3 (30:33):
It after that game that was back when I can't.

Speaker 2 (30:37):
Yeah, I can't imagine Phil's response.

Speaker 3 (30:39):
Phil. Phil was not the most intense person back then.
It was coach k who was a defensive line coach.
You guys stories about him. He was Phil Parker on
steroids like that. That guy was nuts. And yeah, it
wasn't pretty after that game, as you can imagine, or
that entire week in film. But that was kind of
like you talk about the twenty twelve season. I mean

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that that played pretty much sums it up. It was
just ship like that over and over and over again.
And that team had.

Speaker 2 (31:09):
A lot of talent.

Speaker 3 (31:10):
We had some dudes on that team, but we didn't have.

Speaker 2 (31:15):
Sor Year and Micah.

Speaker 3 (31:17):
Yep, we had. We have mikel Hyde, Marvin McNutt, Keenan
Davis was on the team. He was on the team
another year. I think he was. Or no, maybe that
wasn't shit you had.

Speaker 1 (31:28):
You had you had Kirksey, James and Hitch all his juniors,
like leader Leader Victor.

Speaker 3 (31:34):
Martin Manley, who's like one of all time leading receivers.
Like we had a good we had some dudes, and
you had a couple of really good leaders. But in
this kind of sums up the twenty fifteen team too.
It was like we had some really great leaders on
the twenty fifteen team. But one of the big differences
is we had leaders across the board. We didn't have
like your four captain leaders who were pretty good leaders.

(31:56):
But then everybody else just did their own thing. Like
we had leaders in every position group in twenty fifteen,
and that makes such a difference when you can hold
each position accountable. That twenty twelve team, you just saw
kind of everyone going their own way, and it started
becoming a me versus a wee type of thing, and
you know, I'm gonna do what I'm gonna do so
that I can look good at on draft day, which

(32:17):
always blew my mind because you guys know better anybody like,
you're gonna get way better looks if you're on a
good team. Yeah, that's no matter if you're on a
four and eighteen or four and whatever team. Right. So, yeah, man,
that season was brutal, and again it all came down
to leadership, and there was very little accountability within that group,
very little because we had I would argue we had

(32:37):
just as much talent, if not more than twenty fifteen,
Like there were some dudes on that team.

Speaker 2 (32:41):
Oh, I think it's pretty standard. We had one draft
pick after the twenty fifteen Yeah, yeah, Blafe was in
the seventh round.

Speaker 1 (32:47):
I think it's pretty accepted that our twenty fifteen team,
I mean, KP's going into year twenty six or seven here,
I mean, I don't twenty fifteen talent wise is probably
middle of the pack.

Speaker 2 (33:00):
I was above average, you know, like there's there's some.

Speaker 4 (33:03):
Guys that went on to have good years, right like me.

Speaker 2 (33:07):
That was CJ's first year, right, but CJS damn good quarterback. Sure,
you know, Drew rot.

Speaker 4 (33:13):
Would have been an NFL draft pick if he hadn't
had the.

Speaker 3 (33:16):
True he got.

Speaker 1 (33:18):
We didn't, but we didn't have him for two thirds
of the year.

Speaker 3 (33:20):
I mean, yeah, yeah, he was out pretty early, was it? Wisconsin?

Speaker 2 (33:23):
Was the game, right, fifth game against Illinois?

Speaker 4 (33:27):
Yeah, yeah, so you got hurt Verse State where he
hurt his elbow. Then he came back, played with Wisconsin,
and then yeah, halftime at Illinois.

Speaker 1 (33:37):
From what I understand, he was basically put together with
duct tape for.

Speaker 3 (33:41):
Three weeks and then he was Yeah, he was pretty
wounded before he actually got out.

Speaker 2 (33:46):
Yeah, he probably shouldn't have been playing before he for
his a c O. Yeah no, but no, they're like,
you know, you had Desmond who had a career year
that year, Like there was there was talent on that team.
It's just we didn't know how much talent we had. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (34:01):
Yeah, I like Ike in Ike's first year starting, and
you know Ike again, if you didn't have the injury bug,
would have been a draft pick.

Speaker 2 (34:09):
Yeah. Well, yeah, thirty still in the NFL. I like
the way you described that.

Speaker 1 (34:15):
We've always talked about the leadership, but the way you
broke it down is I've never really thought about that way.

Speaker 2 (34:19):
Every position room.

Speaker 1 (34:21):
Did really have Like we had Marshall in the specialist room,
we had Drew in the D line room. We had
you in the linebacker room. We had and Cole, and
we had.

Speaker 2 (34:33):
Li Max, we had we we yeah, we did. Man.
It really was across the board.

Speaker 3 (34:40):
Yeah, and I was That was probably one of the
only years where it was like every single position group
you looked at you're like, damn, they have a good
leader or a couple of good leaders, right, But you
shouldn't get that. Every year you got three or four
or five or six good leaders, but sometimes they're all
in the same position group.

Speaker 1 (34:55):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (34:56):
True.

Speaker 4 (34:58):
I'm just curious going back the twenty twelve year, what
you know, Thank god we never experienced it, but what's
it like, like, Hey, you lost your seventh game of
the year and you still gotta go out there a
few more weeks.

Speaker 2 (35:10):
Like what was the locker room environment?

Speaker 4 (35:12):
Like, yeah, we never felt that that was that is
great any guys like mailed it in, like, you know,
the coaches are still trying to get guys motivating stuff,
but like, what what's the locker room Like?

Speaker 3 (35:23):
It very much felt like the seniors were checked out
and the underclassmen were fighting for a spot for next year. Sure,
which that piece of it not so bad, right, because
you know, there were there was some pretty tough competition.
The coaches made it known to kind of like it
was a bull prep after her not bullprep. Well, yeah,
I guess it was bullprep going into fourteen where it

(35:44):
was like it was bullprep, but you really felt like it.

Speaker 2 (35:47):
Was are we prep a full game, Like.

Speaker 3 (35:51):
We're not prepared for Tennessee? We're prepared for our legs.

Speaker 2 (35:53):
Were dead for Tennessee. It was quite literally camp for
twenty fifteen.

Speaker 3 (35:57):
It felt like, yeah, but it was kind of like
that even practices like it wasn't you know towards the
end of the year where you're doing one day oft
and even then it's a very light day it was
like read to four days, full pads, full go, a
lot of devo and Divo was primarily the second team.
It wasn't like, you know, the third or fourth team
you get you know, during the regular season, normal year,

(36:19):
and so it felt like the seniors kind of mailed
it in and everybody else the coaches were coaching to
the underclassmen. Whether or not that was is a true statement,
I don't know. That's just kind of from my perspective
how I felt it went. And so it was a
weird feeling. And then obviously after the season, you didn't
you have a bowl game, and so it was like

(36:39):
the season ends on a Saturday, and then that Monday
your you're training and it sucked. It was well, for one,
we worked out six days a week after that season.

Speaker 2 (36:55):
Like finals.

Speaker 4 (36:55):
They had to let you go right like because there's
no ball, you don't have to you know, to get this.

Speaker 3 (37:00):
Yeah, we we got a little time off, but if
it wasn't much, it wasn't much, and you hit it
and it was like we were doing like eighty sets
of eight era eighty five eighty eight percent squats, like
right out the gate. I mean, I'll never forget no.

Speaker 2 (37:16):
No GPP, We're just going right on in dude.

Speaker 3 (37:19):
It was guys who we would joke about it because
guys couldn't make it up to their rooms. Like if
you lived in a house, a two story house, guys
were sleeping on the couch because you literally couldn't go upstairs.
It was I've never been through anything like a twenty
twelve offseason, but I mean it forged me and it
made the rest of my I don't want to say easy,
but you know, everything's about perspective, right, and you go

(37:40):
through the rest of your career like it'll never I
don't care what workout they throw, I will never feel
like I did after the twenty twelve season because it
was terrible.

Speaker 4 (37:50):
I know, I know, I just know, like Dole was
programming that up and he's like, this ain't about getting better,
saying about getting stronger. This is about building some mental toughness,
is finding out who wants to be here in twenty thirteen.

Speaker 3 (38:03):
Dude, it was so bad. And that was back when
we were in the bubble and the weight room was upstairs, right,
and they had those revolving doors, and so you get
done and maybe you scream at You're like yeah, get
get to the weight room. Why are you guys walking
around so that that door spinning. I bet probably five
guys got stitches that year because they got their arm
or something caught in that door because it was flying
to get up to the weight room and.

Speaker 2 (38:23):
Yelled that's incredible.

Speaker 3 (38:25):
Was it was? Yeah that I still get nightmares about
the off season after twenty twelve. It was terrible.

Speaker 2 (38:32):
But then, what's the what's the message?

Speaker 4 (38:34):
Like, you know, you have your first team meeting in January,
the new the new team, right, the twenty thirteen team.

Speaker 2 (38:40):
You know, everyone except for the freshman that would be
coming in that year.

Speaker 4 (38:43):
What's that like? You like, hey guys, we just had
a rough year, but hey, new guys, new year, new team,
Like what's yeah?

Speaker 3 (38:54):
I mean from the coaches standpoint, it was buckle up
because that shit ain't happening again, so you better get
ready for what's about to happen with these workouts and
practices and doing shit right. And it was kind of
zero tolerance, you know, like you go through the program
and when you're a young guy, you get a little
bit of leeway if something comes up right, and I
want to say, you have like a three strike policy,
but you get a little bit of leeway a little bit.

Speaker 4 (39:16):
It was one strike and you're like, okay, I got
my eye on you. Two strikes, like okay, are you
gonna be a list guy? In three it's like okay,
Like oh.

Speaker 3 (39:24):
It was like if you yeah, if you get caught
at the bars after hours, you're off the team type
of like strict, Yeah, it doesn't matter if you're freshman
or a fifth your senior year out. And that was
the message, like that you're you're going to do things
the right way. Fortunately, you had a bunch of juniors
who were sick of losing, like James Morris, right, and
so it was really player led and it kind of

(39:46):
like twenty fifteen too. Like you guys know you've been
a part of great teams. The best teams are always
player led. You have internal leaders. The accountability it comes
from the players. If coaches are having to do that,
you know, you're you're gonna have shit.

Speaker 2 (39:57):
You're you're fucked right, Yeah, you're done.

Speaker 3 (39:59):
I mean it's it's got it. And that's that's business
in life too, right. It's got to come from the
people doing the work. If the bosses have to come
down and say it, You're probably not going to be
a successful team. Uh. And James Morris was kind of
the spearhead of that, took the lead and got the
got the troops going, and it really wasn't an issue
other than you know, not being able to walk upstairs
after workouts or anything.

Speaker 2 (40:20):
James, James was the general for sure. Uh.

Speaker 1 (40:24):
It seemed when we came in speaking of business, real quick,
real quick interruption of the conversation. I don't know if
you can see, Travis. We talked about it before we
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Speaker 3 (40:36):
You see that that's the bottom right corner. It's big time.

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Speaker 3 (40:54):
Do you eat eggs every day?

Speaker 2 (40:56):
Seriously?

Speaker 3 (40:57):
No, you don't have a couple times a week.

Speaker 2 (41:00):
I'm it is every I'm an everyday type of guy.

Speaker 1 (41:04):
Kept Me and Kevin are legitimately every day, five scrambled
every morning.

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You eat eggs all the time, every day. God damn right.

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That's all I'm saying, all right, Like, how do you
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(42:05):
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Speaker 2 (42:06):
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Speaker 3 (42:10):
Don't question the honest and then it's on.

Speaker 2 (42:13):
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that seems like a don't question the methods of honest
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Speaker 1 (42:31):
We heard a lot of stories about twenty twenty twelve,
and we're just happy that we just I mean, that's
the team that we committed to. And I was stoked.
I was stoked a bat. I never even really thought
about it. We came in and we won eight the
next year, and I was like, Hey, this is what
we do around here.

Speaker 3 (42:44):
I was gonna say from that, okay, So I asked
you guys a question from that side of things, like,
you're you're committed at that point in time, right, You're
coming in to be a Hawkeye football player, and you
see we go four and eight. What's what's the feeling?
I thought?

Speaker 2 (42:56):
I was thought I had the biggest dick on earth.

Speaker 3 (42:58):
Dude, Dude, Marshalltown feeling real, Dude, Marshalltown was like Marshalltown
couldn't get rid of me quick enough.

Speaker 1 (43:06):
Like this kid is gonna long snap maybe and he's
paying his way to do it at Iowa and he
thinks he's so sick.

Speaker 2 (43:13):
But that is exactly how I felt.

Speaker 1 (43:15):
You guys could have lost twelve games and I would
have been like, I don't care Division one football player.

Speaker 2 (43:21):
Baby.

Speaker 1 (43:22):
That's that's where I was coming from, because I had
no I had two offers. They were Eastern Michigan and Wyoming.
I wasn't going there. I thought it was so I
was stoked. I was so excited. Didn't even think about it.
Didn't even cross my mind.

Speaker 3 (43:35):
keV.

Speaker 2 (43:35):
I don't know if it crossed your mind.

Speaker 3 (43:36):
I didn't.

Speaker 2 (43:37):
I mean I committed after the season, so nice. You know.
I don't know about you, Travis. You were my host.
I wasn't committed. I wasn't committed when I came in.

Speaker 3 (43:48):
With Big Wrestling. I have you guy? Are you guys
watching the wrestling meet?

Speaker 2 (43:52):
Oh no, I've been following a little bit.

Speaker 3 (43:54):
Yeah, now, because that's what we did on your visit.

Speaker 2 (43:56):
Right, we went State who was ranked number one?

Speaker 3 (43:59):
Right that atmosphere was and we beat them.

Speaker 2 (44:03):
Who got the big pin? Was it Sorenson.

Speaker 3 (44:08):
Sounds right.

Speaker 2 (44:09):
It's a long time ago, and.

Speaker 4 (44:11):
Carver Hawkeye went not this ols, and uh yeah.

Speaker 2 (44:17):
That was like, yeah, I think I want to be
a Big ten athlete. This seems pretty cool.

Speaker 3 (44:21):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (44:22):
I Uh.

Speaker 1 (44:23):
I committed to a two and one team that year.
I committed after week three. You guys, actually it would
have been one in one. You guys beat you and I,
but I committed before that game. I told coach Herb
before that game, I was like the week before they
when I was State came, they were basically finally were like, yeah,
I mean, we gotta.

Speaker 2 (44:43):
Got a spot. If you want to you want to
come on, You're gonna walk.

Speaker 1 (44:46):
You'll be a They probably gave me the preferred walk
on tag some bullshit. No one even knows what that means.
And the minute they said that, I was like, oh
my god, my foot's in the door.

Speaker 2 (44:57):
I did it, Like that was the.

Speaker 1 (44:58):
Dream for two years basically. And the next week I
came back and told coacher before the game and they're like,
you know you they give you the high V breakfast
over at the facility and you're like, I was like, dude,
I'm gonna be a Hawkey. I'm gonna be a hawkey,
I mean, and they were like, yeah, we suckered this
kid in hell. Yeah got him. Don't give a shit
because he's a snapper, but we got him.

Speaker 4 (45:20):
Uh well cool. I mean, not to sell yourself short,
but what would have happened if they didn't get you, dude?
It would have had to like someone would have had
to learn long snapping on the So.

Speaker 1 (45:31):
Yeah, So the following year in thirteen, Casey obviously was
still a senior, right, so they had time to get
somebody else that would have had to have come in
and done it right away, which does It's not totally uncommon.
Dom Elvis snapped a fair amount and and stayed on

(45:53):
top of it.

Speaker 2 (45:54):
Uh, dom Alvis striker legend.

Speaker 3 (45:56):
I was gonna say, Dom's a don stud.

Speaker 2 (45:59):
And uh have we had him on the show? I
don't think we have.

Speaker 3 (46:02):
You got to get him on. He was in good content,
he'd be able to talk a lot about Coach K two.

Speaker 2 (46:05):
Definitely need to get dom Elvis on the show.

Speaker 1 (46:08):
H that's a name that just popped in my brain
just because of this conversation.

Speaker 2 (46:11):
I haven't thought about him in years.

Speaker 1 (46:12):
He used to do it and then like Ray Hamilton
messed around with it, Like there was several tight end
slash dns on the team that were that would play
around with it, because I think for that first year
they were kind of like, Okay, we got this kid.
He's like supposed to be good, he's ranked.

Speaker 2 (46:29):
He likes Rubric's cubes. I don't know about this fucking
kid is weird.

Speaker 1 (46:33):
Uh So hopefully he works out, but if he doesn't,
we need somebody else on the team. I mean, they
were trying to get other guys to do the job
all the way. When we had read Sylbey on the podcast,
we talked about how Doyle tried to make him the.

Speaker 4 (46:43):
Guy because he didn't just didn't want Clover to be
the guy, and nobody wanted me to be the.

Speaker 2 (46:48):
Guy for a long time.

Speaker 3 (46:49):
That story lines up. Yeah, it's true.

Speaker 1 (46:52):
And actually, Travis, I want to I want to thank you.
I want to give you a post talk twelve years later,
thank you, because when I was the you know, the
annoying freshman who was just like probably opened his mouth
not probably, I opened my mouth.

Speaker 2 (47:06):
Way too much.

Speaker 1 (47:07):
I was loud, way over confident, and quite frankly, was
very weird. Which is who which is just who I am.
I was a kid with the Rubik's cubes. I don't
know if you remember this. We went to the Bowl
trip down against LSU, and when we were practicing and
like doing our daily activities that week, I had a
go pro and I would I was like on the bus,

(47:28):
I sat right next.

Speaker 3 (47:29):
To him, like you just brought a GoPro.

Speaker 1 (47:31):
I brought a GoPro and like a and like a
selfie tripod, and I was trying to like vlog our
week down in and so this all makes so much
sense now that like this is what I do twelve
years later, But back then, I was like trying to
be logan Paul vlogging our fucking Bowl game experience, right,

(47:52):
and the only guy on the team that embraced it
even a little bit and like like just said fuck it,
I'm gonna have fun with this. And actually like participate
was Travis Perry. And you probably don't remember it, but
did you.

Speaker 2 (48:04):
Ever edit a video and put it up anywhere? I
still have footage on my You should definitely go back
into that footage.

Speaker 3 (48:12):
That is hilarious you say that because I do not
remember that at all. And when you started talking about that,
the only thing I could think of is, oh, my god,
the coaches must not have seen that.

Speaker 1 (48:21):
Nobody ever saw any of it, because I was like,
literally I didn't know what I was doing, but I
thought it was cool to like, no, no, I.

Speaker 2 (48:28):
Think Travis is asking. It is like coach Jordan never
just saw you walking around like that was.

Speaker 3 (48:34):
My first thought of, like, Okay, you probably hid that
well because if they saw you, yes, yes, I did
not go in the first flight back.

Speaker 1 (48:42):
I wasn't trying to like, you know, videotape the entire
locker room and like team meetings and all this shit.
But like when we were on the bus on the
way to the on the way to the practice facility,
like it maybe a couple of times at the resort,
like when coaches weren't around. It was like kind of
low key stuff. But yeah, I would dude, I wouldn't
have been caught dead.

Speaker 2 (49:01):
I remember, fucking uh.

Speaker 1 (49:04):
Speaking of Ray Hamilton, he gave me so much shit
my entire freshman year for just being the biggest nerd weirdo.
And I was like, dude, Ray really hates me, Like
this hates me.

Speaker 2 (49:17):
It was like it was like borderline bullying at times,
and I.

Speaker 1 (49:19):
Was like, I probably deserve it. I this is tough.
And I remember him like giving me a shit about
the GoPro and.

Speaker 2 (49:27):
Travis was the only one.

Speaker 1 (49:28):
Travis like Travis A couple of the days was like, dude,
where's the video cameral, Let's get this on tape, like
and you, I know you don't remember.

Speaker 2 (49:34):
It, but it made a lot. It made a big
difference in my life.

Speaker 3 (49:37):
I'm glad to hear that because I did not recall.

Speaker 2 (49:40):
Uh fuck it was it was.

Speaker 1 (49:45):
I don't want to shift total conversation back to the
real estate think have, but I do have questions.

Speaker 2 (49:49):
I don't want to keep Travis all night.

Speaker 1 (49:50):
So if you, if you grant, if you have any
other questions about Travis's playing time, sure, I kind of
want to hear.

Speaker 2 (49:56):
About the real estate stuff. I'm being honest. Okay, that's
what I was curious about. I just it. So here's
the thing.

Speaker 1 (50:03):
The reason I'm so interested in this is because in
twenty twenty, actually, funny enough, was when I got let
go from the gym I.

Speaker 2 (50:11):
Was working at.

Speaker 1 (50:12):
I was working at like like a thirty hour a
week job doing like group classes.

Speaker 2 (50:15):
At this gym local and Walkee and we had this.

Speaker 1 (50:20):
The whole story is like I had a family vacation
with my in laws planned like two weeks later, and
so I basically gave myself the two weeks to be like,
all right, we'll just figure it out after we come
back from vacation. Long story short, In that two weeks,
I got like antsy, started doing programming for clients, and
the podcast also sort of fortunately like also kind of

(50:43):
took off in COVID a little bit, so it financially
things started to work out. I didn't have to go
back or try and find a job. I just started
working for myself. We're still above water five years later,
so it all worked.

Speaker 2 (50:55):
Out at least to this point.

Speaker 1 (50:56):
But back then you start thinking, like what am I
going to do to make money?

Speaker 2 (51:00):
How am I going to get rich?

Speaker 1 (51:01):
And I'm like real estate, baby, I'm gonna somehow get
into real estate, and like I have, I still have
journals of being like journaling during COVID, like like my
daily goals was like to watch real estate videos and
research all this stuff. And then when I heard you
did it, and I of course never acted on any
of those those dreams, at least in the last five years.

Speaker 2 (51:22):
I was like, motherfucker, Travis is doing it. He's doing it.

Speaker 1 (51:25):
He's gonna be rich, he's gonna have four hundred apartment buildings,
cash flow out the ass. This guy has the answers
I need to have him on the on the show.
So like, was that the whole goal the whole time
where you're just like, I'm just kind of interested in it,
and this is this is where we want to go
with it.

Speaker 3 (51:40):
Yeah, I mean it was. Yes, it was a goal
of mine early on, but I've kind of shifted because
I don't have any multifami. I mean, we've got some
duplexus and stuff, but we don't have any like true
multifamily sure buildings. We've kind of got the short term
rental route, which is a story in itself, but yeah,
I mean the goal is to be financial free. And

(52:01):
it's not that I wouldn't want to work, because I
do really love where I work. I love the people
I get to work with, the job I have, and
so I don't I don't ever really envision leaving that job,
doesn't really but yeah, no, I really enjoy what I do,
and so it's one of those things where it's like,
how can I continue to do what I do, but
grow the portfolio, the real estate portfolio on the side.

(52:21):
Step one was Reagan was a she was a elementary
education teacher. So step one was she became a stay
at home mom and took on a lot of the
operations side of our business.

Speaker 2 (52:32):
Cool.

Speaker 3 (52:33):
So she does all the property management, all the setup,
all the communication with the cleaners, the guests, the handyman,
the contractors. I really only step in if it's like, hey,
this person's being an asshole or something. Can you take
it type of thing.

Speaker 2 (52:46):
You're security, property security.

Speaker 3 (52:48):
I mean that, and like obviously figuring out the financing piece, right,
like how are we going to acquire this building and
running the numbers and make sure it cash flows and
everything works out. I do that side of it. But no,
she pretty much runs a business. And so we've had
conversations of like, Okay, if it gets to the point
where it's too much, what's our next step. Are we
going to hire people? Are we going to hire property

(53:09):
management companies? Are we going to outsource it?

Speaker 2 (53:11):
Like?

Speaker 3 (53:11):
What does that look like? We're not quite there yet,
but we're getting pretty close. And so that's and you.

Speaker 1 (53:18):
You stepping away from your full time and taking over
is not like the.

Speaker 2 (53:22):
First the first option there.

Speaker 1 (53:25):
Wow, dude, so respect to you man, still working a
full time with all that under your under your because
I would be like, this is for me personally, that
would be the goal. I would be like, I'm going
to work for myself. I get to you know, control
my own hours, be at home with the kids more like.
That would be the first thing. So your job must
be elite. You must actually like the people you work

(53:46):
with and the things you do at your full time
because yeah, I feel like a lot of people would
be like, yeah, the number one goal is get me
out of this place.

Speaker 2 (53:54):
Like I don't want to be.

Speaker 3 (53:55):
So my goal has always been to make make more money,
make more, yeah money than I do in my day job. Right,
so if I ever wanted to leave, I have that option.
Sure it's stuck, but yeah, like if you ask me
today if I'm going to be working at Green State
in five years, they answered yes. That doesn't mean it
couldn't change. But it's not one of those things where
it's like, all right, if I acquire two more properties

(54:17):
and a cash flows X, then it gets us to
Z and now I'm able to quit my job.

Speaker 2 (54:20):
Yeah, it's not one of them.

Speaker 3 (54:22):
I will say it started that way right when we're
kind of like developing the game plan of like, Okay,
this is the long term play. We're going to be
full time in real estate, whether it's developers or investors
that you know, we didn't know at the time, but
that's what we want to do full time. But I
mean my job, I work in real estate for a
job too, so it's kind of it crosses over a
little bit now our business side of things. We don't

(54:43):
do anything in the state of Iowa just because I
don't want any conflict of interests being out there. Right,
We do everything outside of Iowa, and that's allowed us
to grow and learn a lot more too, because you've
got to learn different rules and regulations and townships and
cities and yeah, I mean it's just it's different, but
it grows your.

Speaker 2 (55:01):
Knowledge conflict of interest in what way, Just like if
I ever.

Speaker 3 (55:05):
Got to the point where I wanted to partner with
people or like you know, do like syndication type deals
right where you pool funds together to be able to
go buy big complexes. Because that's early on and it's
still kind of a pipe dream of mineus to run
a real estate syndication firm where you know, we get
a group of let's say us four say we want
to go.

Speaker 2 (55:23):
Buy a definitely include me.

Speaker 3 (55:25):
Fuck yeah, yeah, we want to go buy apartment complex.
You have your general partners, you have your limited partners,
you pool funds together, and you have someone one or
two people that know how to make the money, how
to make it work right, and you go buy bigger
buildings that are going to cash flow to higher volume.
It's just like anything. Money's king right if you can
go in with an all cash offer, a fifty percent
down off, or you're going to beat the guy trying

(55:46):
to get an eighty percent.

Speaker 2 (55:47):
Loan to value every day talk to me.

Speaker 3 (55:50):
But now, I've had a lot of conversations lately with
like past teammates and current and former NFL guys that
are interested in real estate, and so there's there's been
some small talks around that. But yeah, that might be
a long term thing. We'll see.

Speaker 1 (56:05):
So, so your properties right now are Airbnb basically Yeah, yeah,
so you are a mobile You're just running a an
Airbnb operation, just killing people.

Speaker 2 (56:18):
This is amazing.

Speaker 1 (56:19):
I literally might we're gonna put a course together and
you're just gonna sell the course. That's that's it's gonna
be the Travis Perry mastermind. You guys manage Josie's property.

Speaker 3 (56:30):
Mm hmmm yeah in Minnesota. Yeah, it's an Alexandria. It's
it's a beautiful house, as you guys can imagine.

Speaker 4 (56:37):
Can you cancel on some people a few weekends in
the summer so that the boys can.

Speaker 2 (56:41):
Just so we can do a boys trip?

Speaker 3 (56:43):
This is Josie listening to this podcast might change my answer.

Speaker 2 (56:46):
He does, but he's also told us that we could
do that.

Speaker 3 (56:49):
So dude, it would be an awesome time to get
a group of guys there.

Speaker 2 (56:54):
It's just go just choose some unlucky soul one random
weekend in the summer, and we're just gonna happen to
show up there. Are they booked out that far? How
far about do people book?

Speaker 3 (57:07):
I mean June, July and August? There's not much room left?

Speaker 1 (57:11):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (57:12):
Are out?

Speaker 2 (57:13):
That's crazy? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (57:14):
Usually six months or so. This is usually what you're
looking at.

Speaker 1 (57:17):
Are they all sort of in vacation spots like that?

Speaker 3 (57:23):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (57:23):
And no.

Speaker 3 (57:24):
So some of our Michigan properties are I wouldn't call
it a vacation spot. Now it is close to Lake Michigan.
So from that standpoint, but you get all the Chicago
traffic and so like the name of the game for
short term rental in my mind is you got to
be within two hours of a major city and it's
got to be different than what the city offers. So

(57:45):
from where we're at, you can drive an hour and
a half and you're on Lake Michigan. You're a cute
little beach towns and you're out of the big city trap,
you know, low traffic. It's just different, and big city
has lots of money. People are willing to pay an
arm and a leg to stay out of property for
two nights that they can drive to, you know, get
away for a weekend and get right back to work
in Chicago than you know that Monday.

Speaker 4 (58:05):
So, Kevin, that sounds like Lake Papa Eagle Lake in
Papa Michigan.

Speaker 2 (58:11):
Oh whatever, close enough. But yes, it was two hours
away from our home in the.

Speaker 4 (58:17):
Suburbs of Chicago, and that was yeah exactly, you got
away from the city for.

Speaker 2 (58:21):
A little bit.

Speaker 3 (58:21):
You guys had a house up there.

Speaker 4 (58:24):
Uh yeah, yeah, we had a cabin on a wake
up in Southwest Michigan.

Speaker 3 (58:27):
Yeah, nice, it's beautiful up there.

Speaker 2 (58:29):
Exactly what you said.

Speaker 4 (58:30):
It's two hours away, it's easy to drive to, and uh,
it's completely different than you feel, like, yeah, you're completely
different area.

Speaker 2 (58:38):
How many places you guys have right now?

Speaker 3 (58:40):
So we own nine and then we've got some units
that we are We got about twelve units that we
arbitrage out, but we don't actually own those units. And
then yeah, we've got some property. We do some property
management that's more Reagan, just with some close friends. And
then she's got a short to rental consulting business that
she runs and operates now to which that's that's pretty

(59:02):
recent as of last like six months.

Speaker 4 (59:04):
Wow, what's like a typical break even on Like you know,
you gotta rent I assume most of your rentals like
weekends like long weekends or something like that, Like, hey,
we got to rent out forty out of the fifty
two weekends or thirty out of the fifty two weekends
to break even, or I guess summer weekends is probably
easy to book out.

Speaker 3 (59:23):
And yeah, it's really it's really proper market, I would say,
keV because like our Michigan properties, the goal is June
July and August you break even for the entire year. Yeah,
and everything else is just money in the bank. And
to your point, usually your Thursday to Sunday, Friday to
Sunday weekends in the off season, but June, July and
August you're booking up like twenty eight twenty nine days

(59:46):
out of thirty thirty one.

Speaker 2 (59:47):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (59:48):
Again, it's like make as much money as you can't.
Those three months gets you through that throughout the rest
of the year, and then the rest is just cherry
on top. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (59:56):
And then you're also just adding equity to each property
every single year too.

Speaker 3 (01:00:00):
So yep, that's.

Speaker 4 (01:00:01):
Why you know, I've always known that rental property is
like the just single most right best wealth generator.

Speaker 2 (01:00:14):
I've just never been able to jump in.

Speaker 4 (01:00:16):
And it's like it's, yeah, headache, man, I mean, is
it is it worth it?

Speaker 2 (01:00:20):
Like to me, it's just so much easier.

Speaker 4 (01:00:21):
It's like, you know, just put it, put it in
the stock market, and just forget about it.

Speaker 2 (01:00:25):
And I don't have to worry about tenants.

Speaker 4 (01:00:26):
I don't have to worry about clean up property managers
or anything like that.

Speaker 3 (01:00:30):
But see, that's why if we get in the syndication deal,
you don't got to worry about any of that. All right, well, company,
if you just got to put some money in and we'll.

Speaker 2 (01:00:40):
Take oh yes, okay, yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:00:43):
I think Anthony Garrett. Have you guys had Anthony gear
on the podcast.

Speaker 2 (01:00:45):
I've tried to get him on. He said he would
come on. Then it fell through. But he's done. He's
he's in real estate.

Speaker 3 (01:00:51):
He does some syndicate. I think he does some syndication
stuff down in Texas based on some of his posts.

Speaker 4 (01:00:56):
Why don't we just get a group of what do
they call it a syndication? Syndicate makes it sound like
it's like, uh.

Speaker 2 (01:01:01):
You know, a crime.

Speaker 3 (01:01:04):
That's where you're at. That's just the name of pooling
the funds together. Essentially, I'm in crime.

Speaker 1 (01:01:11):
I'm in for big crime with former football players.

Speaker 2 (01:01:14):
Seriously, we should just get a group of.

Speaker 1 (01:01:15):
Former io football guys and just be like, just take
over the world with and we'll use Josie's money because
everybody can go look at his public contract.

Speaker 2 (01:01:24):
He has a lot of it. The I hope he's
gonna listen to the show. Absolutely hates every time. Sorry Jones,
No I'm not, I'm not sorry.

Speaker 1 (01:01:37):
You're gonna text me fuck you, And I don't care.

Speaker 2 (01:01:42):
The it does the same same as keV though.

Speaker 1 (01:01:44):
I'm like, man, it just seems like, you know, you're
taking a loan to go get the now you got
like you know, nine places or you got nine loans.
You got to figure out all this ship. I mean,
Reagan's running this thing on the back end. You got
how many fucking spreadsheets you got to put up?

Speaker 2 (01:01:56):
I got it.

Speaker 1 (01:01:57):
I mean it sounds like a hassle. You're like, man,
if you could just figure it out. Seems like guys
are just loaded every every big time, Like, oh yeah,
that guy's got a billion dollars, what's you do?

Speaker 2 (01:02:09):
He just owns a lot of places.

Speaker 3 (01:02:10):
You're like, mother fuck.

Speaker 1 (01:02:11):
Like I drive around as an adult at thirty and
I just see buildings or houses or whatever, and I'm
just or land and I'm just like, somebody has to
own that.

Speaker 2 (01:02:20):
Somebody owns it.

Speaker 3 (01:02:22):
It's such a I will say, like, your first deal
is by far the hardest. Yeah, even if you don't
have even if you have more money going into your
first deal than you do going in your second deal,
Like once you get your feet wet with the first one,
it becomes significantly easier. Just because you can read all
you want and listen to all the podcasts you want,
but until you actually do it, there's just you know,

(01:02:42):
there's so many things you're gonna learn getting into the
day to day of operating a rental, especially on the
short term rental side, because it's way more labor intensive
than your long terms. But we talked to clients all
the time, and you know, even through my job, we
talk to people. It's like it's scary, right because you
buy a half a million dollar house and it's like
you have a three thirty five hundred dollars mortgage pan

(01:03:05):
and it's like, well, shit, if I don't get somebody
to rent this, I am screwed because I can't afford
this plus my current you know, the power live in. Obviously,
you never go into something without reserves, so you need
to have backup cash. But if you run the numbers accurately,
like it takes so much of that risk out of it.
And then obviously you need to have the proper insurance

(01:03:26):
in place so you can sleep at night if something
were to happen. Right, But if you run the numbers
and you know what you're doing from a finance side
of things. It's you know, you read the books. It's
just commas and zero's and that's an easy easier said
than done. But if you can run the numbers accurately,
it really is. It's just a math game.

Speaker 1 (01:03:43):
I mean, find me a property, I'll give you the money, Kevin,
and I will fork up the cash.

Speaker 2 (01:03:49):
I imagine it does help to have.

Speaker 1 (01:03:51):
People who know what they're doing too, have done it before,
and you're like, oh, okay, this is yeah, all right,
well key, if you want to buy a place, yeah,
yes I do. Okay, Well, the bet and boys have
talked about it before, me, all of us.

Speaker 3 (01:04:04):
Drake you throwing h you guys are I'm sure you're
an LLC right, Washington walk Ons out.

Speaker 2 (01:04:11):
We're an escort, aren't we? Uh for tax classification? Yeah,
we are in escort.

Speaker 3 (01:04:19):
Just put it, just put it to put a property
back with the Washington walk Ons and you grow it
from there. It's all tax right off.

Speaker 2 (01:04:27):
Okay.

Speaker 3 (01:04:28):
I'm always.

Speaker 2 (01:04:30):
Like that.

Speaker 4 (01:04:31):
I'm sure that the government just doesn't want you to
pay them. He's like, hey, there's all these ways to
write it off. Just yeah, don't pay them, right, don't pay.

Speaker 3 (01:04:37):
Well, I mean going to the short termental side of things,
Like I won't get in a nitty gritty of the tax side,
but that's really one of the main reasons we shifted
because there's so much more tax advantages on the short
tomental side if you're working a full time job like
I was and Reagan was when we first started. There's
so many more tax advantages going the short tomental route

(01:04:59):
than the long term und or out if you're working
a W two job. So that's really what kind of
made us go that route.

Speaker 1 (01:05:05):
So ten years from now, Travis Perry owns how many places.

Speaker 2 (01:05:14):
What like?

Speaker 1 (01:05:14):
Is the goal that just every time it makes sense
again you just grab another, you grab another.

Speaker 3 (01:05:20):
Yeah, we're kind of at that point. I think in
the next couple of years we'll probably start looking at
doing multifamily and get a little bit out of the
short tournamental game. We're kind of getting to the point
where those tax advantages I was talking about is not
as advantageous for us. Sure, you know, the properties we're
at in the mount we're cash flowing now, and so
now we're kind of shifting our focus to you know,

(01:05:42):
let's say more and more to buy bigger properties or
again go in with partners, so you can pull funds
together and maybe get a little bit a little bit
more pie.

Speaker 2 (01:05:52):
We'll talk to my money guy. Talk to my money,
which is Kevin. Actually Kevin's my money. Talk to him.

Speaker 1 (01:05:59):
Uh, these out of state properties, you know, so you're
taking a bunch of trips to like view these places,
or you like buying sight on the scene.

Speaker 3 (01:06:06):
What I mean, we bought a couple site on scene. Yeah,
with the property. We just bought a property about forty
minutes west of Colorado Springs, just basically Colorado Springs drive
forty five minutes west of the mountains and you're at
the property. That one was sight unseen, which is a
little scary, but we did go there right after we
closed to set it up. We bought it furnished, but

(01:06:29):
we went there to see.

Speaker 2 (01:06:30):
You have, like the real estate agent like facetimey around
the house.

Speaker 3 (01:06:33):
Or yeah, real estate agent met the builder. I got
to know some people in the area. There's a lot
you can find out through Facebook. Uh, you know, a
lot of communities have their own Facebook group. A lot
of neighbors are on there, so you can kind of
become friends with with them and get a lot of info.

Speaker 4 (01:06:50):
But yeah, That's what helped to have a wife right
there there. Basically the FBI agents when it comes to
the Internet and Facebook and they.

Speaker 3 (01:06:59):
Signed on see stuff scary. That was a newer build.
It was built in twenty twenty two, I believe. So
as far as like that help being worried about you know,
inspection results coming back or you know, a leaky roof,
the fucking roof will probably cave in. Now that I
just said that, you're going to get at and you're
going to get what are your properties is on fire

(01:07:19):
after it's not going to be good.

Speaker 2 (01:07:22):
You have you sold any of your properties that you've
bought since the earth?

Speaker 3 (01:07:26):
Yeah. So Actually, our our first out of state deal
was in Michigan and it was kind of a fixer upper.
Actually it wasn't kind of. It was a fixer upper.
We went and saw that and walked it in its
beautiful neighborhood. You're like a quarter mile to Tolake, Michigan.
There's a private beach in the association. But the house
itself was pretty damn creepy. So it had different color

(01:07:50):
carpet in every single room. I'm talking like purple, pink red,
and had panel everywhere and the panel was different color,
like it was a weird.

Speaker 2 (01:08:00):
It was just kind of a ragtag thing, just throw yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:08:04):
But it was a five bedroom, two bath and quarter
mile Lake, Michigan. You started looking at comps and this
thing was. It was sitting on the market forever and
we ended up buying it for two hundred and fifty thousand.
We put a decent amount of money into it, updating
it right, but it was little things like carpet and
or excuse me, LVP tearing off the carpet, painting it,

(01:08:25):
that sort of stuff. It wasn't like we were adding
rooms or bathrooms or any of that. Sure through in
a game room. We rented that out for about a
year and a half and it did really well. But
it was built in like nineteen fifty and it was
one of those things where it's like there's something, there's
bad stuff that's going to start happening. We just know it, right,
the roof old or something. Yeah, just something. And so

(01:08:47):
we ended up selling it to buy another house in
the neighborhood that was a little bit closer to the
lake and it was built in like nineteen ninety eight
or something, and we did a ten to thirty one
tax exchange, and so with the we made on some
we sold it for quite I think we ended up
selling it for We bought it for two fifty. We
ended up selling it for like five five twenty fully furnished.

(01:09:08):
I think it was what it was. And so that's
what really propelled us, because we took those funds and
we bought another place in Michigan, and we bought a
place in Utah. And that's kind of what really got
the the wheel spinning with the short to rental game. Nice,
but ten thirty one is another great example of kind
of shielding yourself from paying a bunch of taxes.

Speaker 1 (01:09:26):
And that's just where you roll any profit you made
into a new property, you don't pay any taxes on it.

Speaker 3 (01:09:31):
Yeah, I mean there's there's things you need to all.

Speaker 1 (01:09:33):
Right qualify, but yeah, I'm quitting the walk On.

Speaker 2 (01:09:35):
Sorry everybody, I'm going into real estate. We had a
good run. We're fucking out.

Speaker 1 (01:09:39):
We're not even gonna make six hundred sorry, grant see
you later.

Speaker 3 (01:09:43):
You're just the property and washing up walk Ons. You
gotta keep the pod going.

Speaker 2 (01:09:48):
It's a lot to think about, a lot to think about. Travis.
We appreciate your time.

Speaker 3 (01:09:53):
Man, dude, it's always good catching up with you guys.

Speaker 2 (01:09:56):
And I have to have you back on again. Syndicate.

Speaker 1 (01:10:01):
You're's gonna be a walk On syndicate in like five years.

Speaker 2 (01:10:04):
We're gonna own me that honest, slyly, that's a T
shirt right there, the walk On Syndicate.

Speaker 3 (01:10:08):
Hey, make it happen.

Speaker 2 (01:10:10):
Hey, new new merch drop coming soon. Uh so check
that out.

Speaker 1 (01:10:14):
By the way, Uh, Travis is super official, but sobe
we look at this. You can go to the walk
On storeage get that QR code right there in the corner.
Get yourself some merch. Anybody who's part of the Patreon.
We're gonna be dropping a spring line here soon. Save
the walk Ons KF three sixteen shirt.

Speaker 2 (01:10:32):
That's what that's football on the back.

Speaker 3 (01:10:34):
That's awesome.

Speaker 2 (01:10:35):
Can't wait.

Speaker 1 (01:10:37):
Thank you everybody for listening. Pretty interested in Travis Moore.
I don't know Travis Perry dot com. Travis Perry is
a real estate mogul dot com probably uh is the
uh is the website? And uh yeah that's all I got.
Anything else? Boys, not on the left.

Speaker 2 (01:10:54):
I always Travis big tune.

Speaker 3 (01:10:58):
You got to see a second week. Thank for you guys, We'll.

Speaker 2 (01:11:01):
Leave it there.

Speaker 1 (01:11:01):
Everybody, have a great week or rest of your weekend.
Whenever this comes out, talk to you next time. Please, Hey,
thanks for listening to the show. If you want more,

(01:11:23):
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Speaker 2 (01:11:41):
We'll see you next time. Hawks. Buy a million

Speaker 1 (01:11:53):
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