It's Never Enough | WUW 595

In the latest episode we dive into the latest transfer portal entries, NIL drama, and more. We explore the recent trend of players entering the portal multiple times, creating instability within teams. We talk Steroids, Easter, and chocolate eggs. The episode also covers the Colorado Buffaloes retiring jersey numbers during the spring game, sparking a debate on merit and nepotism. Lastly, we engage in a fun activity, filling out a grid categorizing Iowa football players based on their performance and fan sentiment. Join us for these discussions and more!

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
For the first time in a long time.

Speaker 2 (00:01):
It's just Kevin and myself. Grant didn't show up to
the episode. He said he wasn't gonna be here. But
when have you just gotten Kevin in myself? It's another
Washing Up walk Ons. We're talking Easter, we're talking transfer portal,
spring football, some.

Speaker 1 (00:13):
Jersey retirements, and various other topics. We're glad you're here.
Thanks for joining the Washing Up walk Ons.

Speaker 2 (00:18):
As always, please sit back, relax, enjoy the show.

Speaker 1 (00:22):
Let's have a day.

Speaker 3 (00:23):
Let's go just before the Lord's Day of Easter where

(00:54):
maybe a bunny rabbit could offer you an egg of chocolate,
maybe some other surprise in there.

Speaker 2 (01:01):
Welcome in to the Washing Up walk Ons. We're glad
you're here for this joyous day. I could just preach keV.
Don't I give off those vibes?

Speaker 1 (01:10):
No, absolutely not. You're a West of south Park special
about like it's like, why are there bunnies and eggs?
And Granted and I had this conversation the other day
if you got anybody on the Patreon not about south Park,
but we had this.

Speaker 2 (01:25):
We had the conversation of like, how did we get here?

Speaker 1 (01:28):
Right?

Speaker 2 (01:28):
How did chocolate eggs how are the kids looking for eggs?
How did this become the tradition for Easter? I contrary
to maybe the opening there, I know, I sounded like
a very church going fellow.

Speaker 1 (01:44):
Not a huge religious guy, but I'm at.

Speaker 2 (01:47):
Least smart enough to know that. Like, I don't think
the original story of Jesus Christ and the Resurrection had
anything to do with bunny rabbits or eggs. Now, granted,
keV Jesus said his eggs. Okay, I just want to
say that right now, if the Eyeway Council was around
back then, they would have sponsored.

Speaker 1 (02:07):
Our guy Jesus, because that guy was jacked, at.

Speaker 2 (02:09):
Least from the historical depictions of him.

Speaker 1 (02:11):
I see, yeah, that's I Could they have chickens back then,
back there? Back then? Chickens are like dinosaurs, aren't they. Well,
I mean they've been around a while, but I mean
I don't I don't know if they had them in
you know, ancient Israel. That's a good question. Great, I'm
sure they had ducks or hen or you know, something

(02:33):
something laid in eight eggs. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:35):
I saw a great comedy bit the other the other
day pop up on my Instagram. It was like, if
you're explaining the chicken, the animal of the chicken to
somebody that didn't know what they were. And the whole
thing was, I'm gonna butcher it. It's not gonna be
nearly as funny because he had it all timed up
and stuff, But it was essentially like, there's this animal
that shaped like a football and it's it's it's it's food.

(02:57):
You can you can kill it and cook it. It's delicious,
but if you keep it alive every day, it will
shit out bonus food. And the way he went.

Speaker 1 (03:10):
About it was great.

Speaker 2 (03:12):
Uh, Like I said, welcome into the washup Walk on
his podcast, No Grant Tonight.

Speaker 1 (03:17):
Could he be holding out for more money? Is it?

Speaker 2 (03:20):
Grant Nico Allen g Nico Bone? Do we have to
start calling him that?

Speaker 1 (03:27):
Maybe?

Speaker 2 (03:28):
I don't know. I I'm worried keV g Bones team
might reach out to us and just start demanding more money.

Speaker 1 (03:36):
Uh, you know, and in this era of Nio is
nothing really really can do about it.

Speaker 2 (03:42):
I mean, is he gonna is he not satisfied with
twenty four dollars a month? He's gonna start asking for
forty dollars a month? That would be wild?

Speaker 1 (03:50):
Yeah, Well, I am seeing that Jesus probably did he
eggs he were a kind part of Jewish cuisine, and
is reasonable to assume that Jesus would have had consume
them as part of his daily meals. Let's go, my guy.

Speaker 2 (04:09):
Jesus Christ was hitting five eggs a day, just like I,
Just like I am. Shout out to the Iowa Egg Council.
By the way, big weekend for them. Can you imagine that?
Although maybe maybe people are finding egg alternatives for the
decorative and festive purposes. I know a big thing out
there is you go by yourself a dozen and you

(04:31):
paint them things up. It's fun to paint eggs now
it fits, you know. I think the prices have come
down a little bit, but fifty cents an egg, You're
starting to be like, whoa this is? You know, fun
with the grandkids is starting to get a little expensive.
Trying to use those for the Monday omelet can't use
them for Sunday. Sunday's festivities. But still everybody should have

(04:51):
some eggs on hand.

Speaker 1 (04:53):
Well, I mean, if if you hard boil them, you
can still paint them, and then sure you can still
eat them. Sure that's what we did as kids.

Speaker 2 (05:02):
I mean, theoretically you could paint them and then still
crack them the next day and just the inside would
be fine.

Speaker 1 (05:07):
Yeah, I don't see why not.

Speaker 2 (05:09):
Yeah, so, hey, multipurpose your eggs this weekend. People, I
guess they're gonna be listening to this on Monday. But
hopefully you did multipurpose. And if you didn't, it's Monday.
It's time to go get groceries for the week. Hey,
pick yourself up a dozen, maybe eighteen, maybe two dozen eggs,
find your find a way for them to get on

(05:29):
your plate. Protein six grams per egg.

Speaker 1 (05:32):
I we you know it was the Master's weekend last weekend.

Speaker 3 (05:36):
It was.

Speaker 1 (05:36):
Yeah, that was on the list today. By the way, well,
just so happened that a recipe for some egg salad
came across our Instagram feed. H hard boiled up a
dozen eggs, made some excellent homemade egg salad, made that
nice little sandwich out of it. And that was an
excellent Sunday afternoon watching the Masters having some egg sale sandwiches.

Speaker 2 (05:58):
An excellent Sunday, it was. It was a great Masters.
I'm not even a golf guy.

Speaker 1 (06:05):
People know this.

Speaker 2 (06:05):
You know this. Many days in the summers when you
guys would leave the house run.

Speaker 1 (06:10):
Off to h what was it.

Speaker 2 (06:15):
Pleasant Valley either Pleasant Valley or occasionally think Pine, and
I'd be at home. I don't know what I was doing.
Probably playing fort.

Speaker 1 (06:23):
It was either for pre Fortnite, it would.

Speaker 2 (06:26):
Have been Preforted.

Speaker 1 (06:26):
I said.

Speaker 2 (06:26):
It was probably Classic.

Speaker 1 (06:27):
Clans, Clash Clans, or doing yours cubes or on YouTube.

Speaker 2 (06:31):
Yeah, and uh, but hey, I'll tune into the Masters, right, Yeah,
I usually watched the four Majors.

Speaker 1 (06:40):
I don't watch any other golf events. Also, I'm like
really bored, but the Masters especially has a special place
in my heart. There.

Speaker 2 (06:50):
I told Lauren this. I was like, there is something
they're branding and just the way they've done things, the
way they've built their we'll just call it aura of
what the Masters is is incredible. It's magical because they
can get a guy like me who's just like, I'm
so agnostic to god, I don't even care.

Speaker 1 (07:11):
I do not care.

Speaker 2 (07:12):
I don't care that Rory hasn't won a major in
eleven years, don't care, career Grand Slam, don't care. But
then all of a sudden, keV Sunday about three pm.
I'm like Bryson's gonna go fucking beat this guy. We
gotta bring one home for America. And then Bryson does
his thing. He kind of he shits the bat. He starts,
you know, he starts falling out of it. And then
I'm like, okay, I've turned. I'm now a Rory fan

(07:35):
because I'm emotionally invested in this guy getting the career
grand Slam.

Speaker 1 (07:39):
I want him to get it.

Speaker 2 (07:41):
Then I saw a clip afterwards after the fact of
him and Scotty rolling around at some like more casual event.
They're like they had a micd up and they had
a video of live feet of them in the cart
like driving between holes. They're talking about like creatine. I
guess Rory consumes like ten grams of creating or twenty
grand creatine a day. Really, he says he does ten

(08:03):
before his workout, ten after. Now he's starting to talk
about his fitness routine, his supplements and now fully invested
like Rory's. And it kind of follows the literature. There's
a lot of there's a lot of new stuff coming
out about creating and it's mentally.

Speaker 1 (08:17):
Ever watched the the Netflix golf special. I think it's
called full swing, love full swing, yeah, love full swing. Yeah.
They go into a couple of guys's uh fitness routines,
and I mean it used to be like, h you know,
kind of a post sport, where like it's just a
bunch of old guys, you know, out there swinging around.

(08:38):
You know, obviously they're very good back then, but these
dudes now are training and training pretty hard. Yeah, I
feel like you have to.

Speaker 2 (08:44):
I think it's really underrated, the physical, the physical side
of it.

Speaker 1 (08:50):
I mean I mean until like Tiger came around, Like
Tiger could like bench like three fifty plus. I think
it was Wow, that is incredible. Yeah, Tiger, and not surprised.
Tiger came along and he was like a gifted athlete,
not just a gifted golfer, and he kind of redefined
the training aspects of golf. And then now you see

(09:13):
like there's some really big dudes on the tour now
that can hit it a long way.

Speaker 2 (09:18):
Well. I mean you just watch Bryceon take a full
cut and you're like, God, I mean, he'd better be
working out if he's going to be torquing like that
or his body's gonna fall apart. Yeah, I mean there's
a physicality to it. I mean walking that many miles
and not letting it affect you like fatigue wise, Like
you make the cut, you're on four days in a row,

(09:39):
it's eighteen. It's kind of a slow eighteen. How how
many miles you walk on a golf course when you
play eighteen holes?

Speaker 1 (09:45):
Is it like five or so? I mean for the pros,
I want to say they're usually playing like I think
it's like eight thousand yards or so? Sure? Is uh
the length that miles?

Speaker 2 (10:00):
It's five miles because you're not walking a dead straight
line get tea to you know, tee to pin. So
I mean that's and then not only that, but the
amount of swings that you're taking over a over a weekend,
you're hitting driving range every morning. You're going These guys
go to a lot of the the events early.

Speaker 1 (10:21):
Twenty five hundred yards at there Masters.

Speaker 2 (10:25):
So yeah, I love it. Twenty grams of creating. So
I'm gonna have to up my creating numbers. Rory's the
Master's champion now and Grand Slam Champion sixth to ever
do it. So hey, great stuff to all the golf
fans out there. Glad you guys got to enjoy incredible
masters those and Rory's been.

Speaker 1 (10:42):
Such an easy guy to cheer for too, because like
he was the one that held out when Saudy Golf
League was poaching everybody over from the PGA, and now
it just seemed just seems like a really good dude.
I've heard a lot of people don't like.

Speaker 2 (10:57):
I've heard there's split there's a split crowd there.

Speaker 1 (11:01):
I don't know. I think I think Rory's a pretty
popular fan favorite out there. I don't know. I'm sure
you can't. You can't do anything in the public eye
and be liked.

Speaker 2 (11:12):
Everybody has their haters, that's for sure. Uh yeah, twenty
grands of creating. Uh the real the real question is
when do we just start doing steroids?

Speaker 1 (11:23):
I mean, the correct answer would have been about twelve
years ago with the ideal time.

Speaker 2 (11:29):
It's too late, assuming we couldn't assuming we didn't get caught.
It would have been great to have the benefits of
peds for those four years.

Speaker 1 (11:38):
Yeah, no doubt, no doubt.

Speaker 2 (11:41):
Just running around there.

Speaker 1 (11:44):
Okay, how much do you think steroids would have actually
helped you? Honestly, I don't know how much it actually
would have helped me, though.

Speaker 2 (11:55):
So the The short answer to that is, at the time,
probably not very much, because I don't think I would
have understood or maybe even had the the the accessory
knowledge to to to really like get everything out of
it that I would be that that would actually help me.

(12:17):
What does that mean? There are steroids that like are
great for body comp Like they are muscle, they are
pro muscle, but they are also fat.

Speaker 1 (12:27):
Burning little little yeah.

Speaker 2 (12:30):
A little clembaut or right, just a little bit, just
a little.

Speaker 1 (12:33):
Bit, not that I would know.

Speaker 2 (12:36):
I've done no research allegedly, Uh, there's there's a there's
a steroid or a PD or a peptide for anything, right,
And so what would have benefited me most is I
needed to weigh about the same. Like my weight was fine,
my body comp was not where it needed to be.

(12:57):
It has now taken me twelve years and a semi
competitive CrossFit career and like legitimate training of the last
three to four years for me to get somewhat close
to what my body needed to be composition wise twelve
years ago to where I'm now currently like.

Speaker 1 (13:18):
Two oh five.

Speaker 2 (13:19):
I could probably still put on ten pounds, but it's
a solid, like pretty lean and mean two o five
speed wise, steroids probably.

Speaker 1 (13:28):
Weren't gonna do much for me.

Speaker 2 (13:30):
The only maybe just gradual little thing, like you know,
i'd be a little stronger, I could be a little
bit more powerful. I could maybe run a little faster.
I would have been able to hand fight with guys
and and kind of get guys off me a little
bit better. But I mean half the time I didn't
have anybody covering me. And I don't know if there's
a whole lot of steroids out there that are gonna work,

(13:51):
that are gonna help me with uh getting returners to
not juke me out, So you know, I don't know.
I don't think it would have helped me. I would
have looked a.

Speaker 1 (14:02):
Lot better, yeah, you know, like like kafs is like
they look good coming off the bus, right, you have
looked good coming off the bus. Uh, I would be
I would be interested to see if like they could
do a study of like you know, average football players

(14:23):
give them steroids, do they become good football players? I
think I think I think it definitely makes good football
players better, not right, yeah, yeah, I think like where
it could really help is like an offensive lineman, like yeah, yeah,
offensive defensive line for sure.

Speaker 2 (14:38):
Yeah, the line if you're alignment and your your main
job is to basically push people or control another man. Uh,
and all of a sudden, you can add like ten
percent strength or something or more and and for them
body fat, composite, you know, body composition wise as well.

(15:00):
There are some things that can add a little stamina.
They add a little uh, a little ability cardio respiratory wise.

Speaker 1 (15:06):
I mean, all of a sudden, now you're not as
tired in the fourth quarter hits, do a little blood doping.

Speaker 2 (15:10):
Your your recovery is a little bit better. So now
you can train harder. It's just a compounding thing. So
I don't know, I think the I think offensive line Drake, Uh,
I mean you have a wrecking ball as a fullback,
and you just make that wrecking ball a little denser.

Speaker 1 (15:27):
That probably helps a little. I mean yeah. And you know,
Drake dabbled in some some substances.

Speaker 2 (15:32):
Some yeah, some external and.

Speaker 1 (15:35):
It definitely like, I mean, he got gassed up, he
got really strong, it was strong. His body failed him
because of most likely because of said substances. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (15:46):
Well, because your your body's now growing at a non
natural rate and there are you know, your tendons and
your ligaments are there's it's supposed to be proportional. And
when you get stronger, when the muscles get stronger at
a rate that the tendons and and everything else isn't, Yeah,
that that creates some injury.

Speaker 1 (16:04):
So uh, but everybody's on testosterone now, dude, Oh yeah,
you just like say, hey, I'm a little tired. I
don't have that energy, can have some TRT.

Speaker 2 (16:16):
Drake's on it. Drake's getting in his butt every every
week and he looks great. He doesn't even lift weights
and he still looks jack because he's still getting the
muscle tension and a lot of resistance training in a
way as he rolls. I just saw a video of
him today that he like reposted from their gym on
his on his on his Instagram story. He's like, he

(16:36):
looks better than he looks just as good as he
ever did. So TRT man, just hop on a little
tea man, Just don't. You don't have to, you don't
have to work hard, you don't have to eat good.

Speaker 1 (16:47):
Just hop on the TRT.

Speaker 2 (16:49):
That's a lie. Uh, But I am scared that that
maybe Grant's Maybe Grant's I think Grant's team could be
reaching out soon. I mean he might be holding out
the podcast. You might be asking for more money.

Speaker 1 (17:03):
Brand I think his his day job probably is offering
him more money right now. Got to be which is
what it is? Yeah? Uh, what do you think about
all that? What having a day job?

Speaker 3 (17:18):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (17:18):
What do you what do you think about? Hey? Bro,
what do you think about? Like?

Speaker 2 (17:22):
What are your thoughts and opinions on that nine to five?

Speaker 3 (17:25):
Man?

Speaker 1 (17:27):
I have no idea. I have no idea what a
nine to five even is?

Speaker 2 (17:32):
You don't really have hours, do you. It's just like
when you want to, when I want.

Speaker 1 (17:36):
To know, it's not when I want to, it's when
it's this whenever dictates, never dictates.

Speaker 2 (17:45):
When whenever Grandma's fall and break themselves.

Speaker 1 (17:50):
Someone gets in a car accident, or you know, lots
of crazy stuff out there, someone falls off the ladder,
gunshot every now and then Fourth of July coming around,
could have a busy one. Yeah yeah, No.

Speaker 2 (18:04):
What I meant was, what do you think about Nicoya.

Speaker 1 (18:08):
Leava?

Speaker 2 (18:10):
I'm I'm Lava, Nico I'm Lava. Uh saying hey, hey,
two point four not enough?

Speaker 1 (18:18):
I need four million?

Speaker 2 (18:20):
Or maybe his dad or maybe his dad was saying this,
or his agent or maybe his dad is playing agent.
I'm not exactly sure on the details, but like, have
you been following the ship?

Speaker 1 (18:29):
I I all I saw was that there was a
one day there was a rumor that he was like
pursuing other options, and then like the next day he
was officially in the portal or something like that.

Speaker 2 (18:42):
He didn't show like yeah, I think from my understanding,
he reached out to organ or his camp reached out
to Orgon, and Lanning went to Hypel.

Speaker 1 (18:52):
And be like, I did see that tweet. It's like,
I don't know if there's any like this guy's shopping
around his.

Speaker 2 (18:57):
Yeah, I don't know if there's any truth to that.
I kind of respect the shit Dan Lanning for like, yo,
it's true, Yeah, your boy is trying to like find
other places and he came to us. And then I
think that sort of caused the stir. And then like
maybe three days ago, maybe last Friday, or maybe it
was the start of this week Monday, as we record

(19:17):
this on a Wednesday night, he just didn't show up
just to meetings. He's done show up one day and
then a couple hours later he's in the portal and
comes out that he needs more money.

Speaker 1 (19:30):
I mean, he's on a landing spot yet as of
right now.

Speaker 2 (19:35):
In Wednesday afternoon, I saw a couple reports that he
was going to UCLA.

Speaker 1 (19:40):
M he is Ucla came up with more money than
Tennessee was offering. No, they did not.

Speaker 2 (19:49):
They came up with about half of what he was
getting at Tennessee reportedly. I mean, yeah, it makes sense, right,
Like they're giving him like a million or a little
over a million, and he was getting two point four
or two two million a year at Tennessee.

Speaker 1 (20:03):
You see, all he's gonna pay him one.

Speaker 2 (20:05):
But he fucked himself because or his dad or I
don't know who who his who his team is.

Speaker 1 (20:12):
Someone from his camp went sniffing around, like, hey see,
if we can get some more money out of a
different team, maybe like you know, reset the market for
for Niko whatever is like. And in that world, it
makes sense that you go to Oregon. Organ's got deep
pockets and that if they want you, they'll they'll find
Yah'll find the money for you. And then so the

(20:35):
way it sounds like is that like if Landing will
let Tennessee know and then that kind of causes a
stir at Tennessee and basically like words out, You're welcome
real quick. Like if hey, man, you're our top paid
guy here by a lot, we are. We just don't
believe that you're worth an extra whatever you're looking for. Yeah,

(20:55):
I think he went luck and you know, I mean
Brad said it the last time as we had him
on the podcast. It's like a lot of these guys
are getting really bad advice about what they're worth from
people that don't have their best interests at heart.

Speaker 2 (21:12):
No, they have their own interest. They're like, hey, if
this guy can get a contract for four million a year,
I can double my salary.

Speaker 1 (21:18):
He's getting two.

Speaker 2 (21:19):
If he can get four, I make twice as much
and so and so. Then they start dude. I think
Williams said it on on the Iowa Everywhere pod. In
the basketball world, people, there's there's people who are not agents.
They're not the There's some random guy out there who's
not a Nico's agent. This is amusing Nico as example.

Speaker 1 (21:38):
Oh you use it.

Speaker 2 (21:39):
Kevin Ward, high profile linebacker, you could you can drop
it back to the secondary as well.

Speaker 1 (21:45):
He could.

Speaker 2 (21:45):
He's a speedy guy. He could play both he's.

Speaker 1 (21:48):
Just a thick guy.

Speaker 2 (21:49):
He's he's like two twenty five, but he can run
high market value. I, Tyler, you have your own agent.
Drake Kolick is your agent. That's who you do, that's
who deals with IOWA all the stuff. I Tyler, kloever
have nothing to do with you, potentially have never even
just talked to you. I start going to other teams
and saying, hey, I'm representing Kevin Ward. He's looking to

(22:13):
uh maybe jump in the portal of this offseason and
find a new landing spot. What uh, what kind of
what kind of coin can you guys fork over for
a guy like that? And then he starts, he starts
having these conversations. He gets a couple, random guy, random
agent that's trying to cash in on these players.

Speaker 1 (22:31):
He then takes a couple, He gets a couple.

Speaker 2 (22:33):
Feelers out there. Hey, uh yeah, Oregon, Yeah, we'll pay
Kevin Ward one point two to come play defense for
US Ohio State. We'll play We'll pay him one point three,
but this and this, uh another place, We'll pay him
one straight up, but he can have it right away,
a cat, you know whatever. That fucking slimy guy then
goes to you and initiates a conversation and says, hey,

(22:54):
I've got a lot of connections with a lot of teams,
you know I I several of them have asked about
you and if I have any connection to you, and
here's what they're saying, they would pay you. I'll represent
you in a new deal. It's unbelievable, dude, Yeah, it's

(23:14):
it's horrible. And and Brad said, the agents are ruining
this shit and he's the one who has to deal
with that, along with Tyler, Barnes and kf all these people.

Speaker 1 (23:23):
And I think, somewhat to be honest on.

Speaker 2 (23:25):
A lower end scale from what I've heard, put it
all on me. This isn't Kevin's opinion or anything else.
This isn't coming from anybody. It's just I have sources.
I think Jermari fell into that a little bit, not
with an NIL deal, but what his value was at
the next level. I think from what I hear, Jermari
could have basically played out the rest of the year.

(23:46):
He stopped playing at like the ninth or tenth game.
I think there was two or three games left he
could have played, but his agent, his team was telling.

Speaker 1 (23:54):
Him, hey, man, if you get hurt.

Speaker 2 (23:56):
If this, if the little nagging injury, I think he
does have a legit injury.

Speaker 1 (23:59):
Then he did get legit surgery on.

Speaker 2 (24:02):
But if that gets any worse, or these last few
games aren't as great on tape because you're playing, you know,
at eighty percent your draft stocks are gonna go down,
and right now you're a first rounder. Someone someone told
him that, and so he said, all right, fuck it,
I'm shutting it down. I don't think he's gonna get drafted.

(24:23):
Like from what I saw most recently, he's he's a
last day guy, potential free agent, because because I love.

Speaker 1 (24:30):
That, I would have thought that he was definitely a
draft pick, but definitely not talent, definitely not a second
day talent.

Speaker 2 (24:37):
Wise, yes he should go on the third day keV.
But teams find the shit out and they I think
they know the same story or the same rumors, and
now they're questioning, really like that guy sat out a
couple games because he like, we're not going to take
somebody who's worried about money like that, who's worried about See.

Speaker 1 (24:55):
I don't know how much the NFL cares about that
stuff anymore, because I mean.

Speaker 2 (24:59):
They have to deal it anyway.

Speaker 1 (25:00):
But I mean, and the guys started opting out like
a bowl games, opting out of Like remember Nick Bosa
opted out on half the season.

Speaker 2 (25:09):
I know, crazy.

Speaker 1 (25:11):
He got an injury that you could be returned for
in two weeks, like in week five or something like that,
and just say like I'm done. I'm done. I'm done.
And I mean it's just different. Top three draft pick
something like that. He was pretty high. I mean, he's
doing just fine, right, But yeah, I don't know, man,
I don't know.

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Speaker 1 (26:04):
I could do that. I could get in for that.
How long would it take you to do five thousand
push ups? It would take a while I did.

Speaker 2 (26:11):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (26:12):
I didn't tell anybody I was doing this.

Speaker 2 (26:13):
But last year, in the year twenty twenty four, I
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be just over fifty thousand in the year. Obviously that
was a court across a year. I would be doing
ten percent of that in one go. I don't think
I could do it, and like it would have to
be a couple of days.

Speaker 1 (26:33):
But I mean I did.

Speaker 2 (26:35):
I did a thousand on one day last year because
I started to get behind.

Speaker 1 (26:39):
I remember during COVID I did, like I forget how many.
I want to say, it was a thousand and a
day one time. Yeah, for someone who works out, it
was some sort of it was some crazy number like that.
But yeah, I mean if you did one hundred an
hour every hour, yes, twenty four which is which is

(26:59):
super easy. Yeah, but it's two days you'd have to do. Yeah,
be about two days.

Speaker 2 (27:04):
Could I get two hundred an hour?

Speaker 1 (27:06):
It'd be Yeah, I mean, I mean two hundred an hour.
Knock it down. Yeah, honestly, I wont know what the
record for now. I'm curious.

Speaker 2 (27:18):
You're gonna take a crack at the twenty four hour
push up record.

Speaker 1 (27:21):
Oh dear god, I'm gonna say it's probably it's probably
around ten thousand.

Speaker 2 (27:27):
Oh buddy, it doesn't even make sense, hey man, forty
six thousand how in twenty four hours. Guinness World Record
for most push ups in twenty four hours is a
forty six thousand, set in nineteen ninety three.

Speaker 1 (27:41):
It stood for thirty years. That's nineteen hundred push ups
an hour, thirty one a minute every minute. It's thirty
basically thirty two a minute every minute. It's fourth straight hour.

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It's what it says, bro, I'm just reading what it says.

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I don't believe it. I don't either.

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live in the Walkie area, I live less than a
mile from this establishment, the Mickey's Irish Pub here in Waukee.

Speaker 1 (30:29):
There's the Mickeys in Walkee there is associated with the
one in Iowa City. No idea doubt doubt it. I
mean it's Mickey's Irish Pub and Irish City.

Speaker 2 (30:38):
So I mean there's a lot of Mickey's Irish pubs
probably everywhere. Yeah, you're probably the one in Waukee at
least for the time being. Had Hops by a Million
on tap on tap. Shout out to a couple listeners.
They listened to the show. A couple of regulars. They
they hit me up on like, hey, we listened to
the show. We asked for them to get a keg

(31:02):
or a couple kegs of Hops by a Million here
at the bar, and Barntown sent them a couple of
kegs and they had like a keg, you know, like
a handle and everything with our logo on it. I
wish I could share it because I so it was
here local in Waukee for a while, at least until
supplies last.

Speaker 1 (31:18):
I mean, were you aware that this was ever available
to purchase on tap?

Speaker 2 (31:22):
Buddy, I didn't know a single thing about this because somebody,
somebody hit me up and said, hey, your beer's here
at Mickey's and wakee. I was like, I had no
fucking clue. I haven't talked to Barntown in a while.

Speaker 1 (31:35):
I got to run it back because I mean, it's
a solid beer, and I think we should I think
they should be They're missing out by not running a
twenty four to seven. I know, we got to get
it in stores too. I don't think it would be
that hard.

Speaker 2 (31:46):
We could send so many people to fairways and high
v's across the state of Aya, which is just I mean,
I still have like the first four four packs sitting
on my on my counter down here as like memorabilia.
It's a sick can.

Speaker 1 (31:58):
Yeah, it's a good be it's great here.

Speaker 2 (32:02):
We could sell the shit out of that and guess
what it benefits the children's hospital. So you know, they
did hit me up about doing another event this fall.
The problem is is that Friday I prioritized us having
a booth at the trade show at fry Fest, which
we are locked in for. We are official we're gonna

(32:22):
be there slinging merchant Fryfest this year. Hard for me
to be in two places, can't do can't do one
versus the other. So we'll figure that out.

Speaker 1 (32:32):
But yeah, that's that.

Speaker 2 (32:33):
A couple of notes here, A couple notes again with
the portal madness.

Speaker 1 (32:38):
Bring this one up. Brendan Sullivan knew it was coming, right,
I mean, I thought there's a chance that he was
gonna be like the kind of guy to just kind
of write it out even though you know you weren't
gonna play. But yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (32:56):
I mean, again, this is all sort of old news.
This is the last week's stuff too. We're not gonna
we're not going to act like this is breaking news.
But you know, he shared this note on social media,
loved to enjoy it every second he spent here, which
was actually less than a year. It's crazy. It feels
like Sullivan's been part of the program for a couple
of years. He literally got there in like June. He's
been there for ten months, made a bunch of memories,

(33:19):
awesome experience. After continued prayer conversations with my family, it's
my best interest in into the transfer portal for my
final year of eligibility.

Speaker 1 (33:27):
And it makes sense.

Speaker 2 (33:27):
He's got one year of eligibility. He proved last year
that he's somewhat valuable. There's a team out there that's like, ah,
we could grab that guy. He might be able to
compete for a starting spot. And if you've got one
year left, you want to play ball.

Speaker 1 (33:40):
That's what this scene is. I think he fully understands
that he's not an NFL quarterback. I mean I would
least hope, so you would think, and he just wants
to go find somewhere where he can play for his
last his last opportunity.

Speaker 2 (33:52):
It's similar to Kate Cade's down at like East Tennessee State.
He's going to play a home Holy I think he's
at East Tennessee State last I saw, And I think
that dude.

Speaker 1 (34:00):
Is like almost as old as us Man.

Speaker 2 (34:02):
Feels like it feels like it. And these guys they
just want to they just want to play one more year.
They just want to just give me some playing time.

Speaker 1 (34:11):
So you know that lead.

Speaker 2 (34:12):
You know Gronowski, we paid the guy to be our quarterback,
like a million bucks or something. He's going to be
our quarterback. Hank Brown, this guy from young guy from
Auburn probably steps in as the second. And then Jimmy
Sullivan we still have a Sullivan on the roster spelled different. Uh,
Jimmy Sullivan, young kid is there right now. I think
he's the three. So we've got options. I think Jackson
Stratton's still on the roster too.

Speaker 1 (34:34):
We can put Shaggy into any time. Bro undefeated as
a starter.

Speaker 2 (34:38):
Guy's a legend. Yeah, I just don't think that was
much of a surprise. Uh, this one kind of was interesting.
So not a name that was huge, But you remember Pascouzzie,
Johnny Pascuzzi was a tight end on the roster for
the last couple of seasons. Yeah, so he entered the
transferportal at the end of last year. He must have

(34:59):
been one of the those guys. You know we talked
about coach Farence and how he approached everybody like, Hey,
there's gonna be the one O five. Here's what's looking like,
here's where you stand in the program. He entered the
transfer portal assumingly, like most of these kids, they're like, hey,
I want to go be the guy somewhere. We have
a Stranga, we have Ortworth, there are one two who
knows what's behind them. But Pascuzi felt like he probably

(35:22):
wasn't going to be in the fold as much as
he wanted to be, so he transfers. He goes to
West Virginia to start the spring semester, transfers at semester
two days ago, he's back in the portal already. And
this is not the first time I've seen something like this.
I mean, he spent not even an entire spring They're
basically these kids are basically getting into Spring Bowl. I wonder.

(35:42):
I mean, dude, I just the other person I saw
that just did this the coldest you remember, the.

Speaker 1 (35:48):
Coldest, the coldest Ferdish Ferguson Crawford, Crawford, the oldest. Crawford.

Speaker 2 (35:53):
Yeah, committed to Nebraska, went through last season, same thing
back in December, decided I'm gonna find a new school.
He went to law Tech I think, spent the last
two and a half three months with law Tech and
he's back in the transfer portal after not even finishing
an entire spring ball. They get to this new spot
and they're automatically just like.

Speaker 1 (36:13):
All right, well this sucks. They're not play.

Speaker 2 (36:16):
Yeah, something's wrong. They're not playing me. I'm not the guy,
I'm not the starter. I'm right back in the portal.

Speaker 1 (36:21):
It's nuts, dude. They just uproot their lives. Yeah, man,
I they really need to cap your transfers. It's it's
actually insane.

Speaker 2 (36:32):
You shouldn't be able to enter the transfer portal twice
within the same calendar.

Speaker 1 (36:36):
Year and keep your eligibility for that year, absolutely.

Speaker 2 (36:39):
Fucking not, or like twice within the same six months,
Like wait, we gotta find something that's going on.

Speaker 1 (36:45):
Look in the mirror. Maybe it's you, buddy, Maybe it's well,
I mean, maybe it is like what is this teaching kids?

Speaker 2 (36:52):
Dude? This is literally like, hey, you get a job
at Striker right whenever you got your job, like twenty
twenty or something, twenty nineteen teen.

Speaker 1 (37:01):
Damn, you're tenured, bro.

Speaker 2 (37:03):
I guess that. I guess CEOs are pretty tender.

Speaker 1 (37:05):
We graduated seventeen, man, and I didn't make the league,
so you know, I know, I just I felt like
you kind of.

Speaker 2 (37:11):
I guess you really only did the summer and then
you're right into working. Kevin Ward, Hey, I'm gonna be
I'm a striker man joining the company. I like using
these analogies with you. This is fun.

Speaker 1 (37:24):
It's good.

Speaker 2 (37:25):
Second one of the podcast, Kevin Ward is gonna it's
gonna be a striker guy. You start working three months
in you're like, nah, actually, fuck this.

Speaker 1 (37:36):
What's it happened?

Speaker 2 (37:37):
What's the what's the competing company?

Speaker 1 (37:40):
Johnson and Johnson?

Speaker 2 (37:41):
I think I'm a I think Johnson and Johnson's a
better look for me.

Speaker 1 (37:45):
I'm gonna go over there. I'll sell for them.

Speaker 2 (37:47):
This striker just ain't for me, and they're gone, and
then they do it again, and there's no questions.

Speaker 1 (37:54):
Really, if you can do it once, maybe you do
it twice and that that raises the alarm bells and
your good luck ever getting hired again.

Speaker 2 (38:02):
I mean yeah, And you would think the same with
a with a with an athlete. So you go to
some coach, You're like, hey, I'm in the portal, you
guys interested, and they're like, well, you've entered the portal
three times in the last twelve months, buddy, what are
you doing?

Speaker 1 (38:16):
What's what's what's your what's the issue here?

Speaker 2 (38:19):
It's just crazy, And I know, I think we knew
this stuff was gonna be nuts.

Speaker 1 (38:25):
On this podcast we talked about how, yeah, it's.

Speaker 2 (38:28):
Probably gonna be a little out of hand, there's gonna
be with no rules in the NCAA, basically having no
jurisdiction anymore, no balls at least to step up and
do anything. It's basically like, you know, there's gonna be
some some wild stuff. But man, it's gotten to a point.
It's gotten to a point where I don't know, I
don't know about it. I just think about like you

(38:51):
and I played not even a decade ago.

Speaker 1 (38:55):
I mean it's getting close. It's getting close.

Speaker 2 (38:58):
And none of them, we didn't have to worry abot any
of this shit. Yeah no, I don't even know your teammates.

Speaker 1 (39:05):
Yeah that's kind of crazy, right, Yeah, like you don't
even know them. They're there for a week.

Speaker 2 (39:15):
And then and then when they're there, everybody everybody's pocket watching.
Hey how many how much is he getting from the swarm?
How much is he getting? Oh wonder if I can
get more at this school? Oh, we gotta worry about
the keeping this guy. It's fucking crazy, dude.

Speaker 1 (39:28):
Yeah, you know, honestly, it would have been nice to
make a lot of money during playing college football, But
looking back now, it's like it's probably for the best, right.

Speaker 2 (39:38):
I mean I would have I would have I would
have taken the money. What do we think about this?

Speaker 1 (39:41):
Here?

Speaker 2 (39:42):
For those not watching?

Speaker 1 (39:43):
Really insane? I saw this today.

Speaker 2 (39:45):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (39:46):
That is the.

Speaker 4 (39:46):
Colorado Buffalo's number two and number twelve. Officially untouchable witness
Shadar Sanders and Travis Hunter have their jersey numbers retired
during the spring game on April nineteenth.

Speaker 1 (39:59):
This is like, imagine your your raw Imagine you're Travis Hunter,
Like that's like extremely disrespectful to put them on the
same they just just put them on the same level
as me about to be.

Speaker 2 (40:13):
I mean, so here's how I see.

Speaker 1 (40:15):
This was the best best two sided player since maybe
maybe ever, I don't know. And uh, we're often going
to retire the coach's son's number because he he was good.

Speaker 2 (40:29):
He was a really good quarterback for one year. Yeah,
like what dude, this is insane. I kind of get
Travis Hunter, but also not right now, not right away?

Speaker 1 (40:42):
Right they somebody the point, I mean, depending on the program,
but anyone who wins a Heisman has a legitimate argument, right. Sure,
you know some programs like they got a lot of
Heisman winners and you know, good for them, embarrassment of riches. Uh,
you know some programs were you know, you got one
and guess what, no one ever wears now Kanucks number ever? Again,

(41:03):
of course sure we can, we can. Uh I can
agree on that. Uh but yeah, I don't know when
we were retired now Knic's number. I don't think it
was six months after he was done playing. That's actually
gonna be a fun trivia question when uh yeah, it's uh,
that's that's that's ridiculous.

Speaker 2 (41:26):
It doesn't make any sense to me. It's obvious that
you're talking about nepotism. I mean, that's whole bit, the
whole thing, one million percent. If he's not the head
coach's son.

Speaker 1 (41:37):
Does this happen?

Speaker 2 (41:39):
Uh? Nile Kinnicks number took thirty three years to be retired.
He died for our country.

Speaker 1 (41:45):
Would have been the same time they renamed the stadium
after him. It sounds about the same time, said seventy two.
When do they name it Kinnick Stadium because I think
it was around that time. Yeah, it sounds right. I
like it all at once. Yeah, nineteen seventy two.

Speaker 2 (42:01):
Yeah, replaced the former stadium located on the east bank
of the Iowa River and was renamed in nineteen seventy
two in honor of halfback now Kinnick.

Speaker 1 (42:09):
And that's also when they retired his number.

Speaker 2 (42:13):
September twenty third, two days before my birthday thirty one
this year, keV young, so young. Crazy to me that
they're retiring. Unbelievable. Last thing we're gonna do tonight. This
will be fun.

Speaker 1 (42:31):
And this is crazy that I have to give this
sort of credit.

Speaker 2 (42:33):
But this is from schizophrenic Hawkey okay on Iowa Twitter,
So shout out to Skizo Skitzo hawk h He's been
running this grid and I didn't want to. It's already
five people in they've been doing this. I don't know
if you said that.

Speaker 1 (42:50):
I did so.

Speaker 2 (42:51):
I didn't want to muddy your brain by the by
you know who they picked on here the community. I
just thought, hey, me and you do this together, Hawkeye
fans want your participation in Zio football player grid. It
is a three by three box. Top columns are great player,
average player, bad player. Side rows are loved by fans,

(43:12):
fans are divided, hated by fans, so you get one
of each where they cross. Okay, I thought this would
be this would be great fun for a little one
of these podcasts where we didn't have a guest. We
didn't have anything, you know, Grant's not here to make
this a good show. We got fit, you know, we
got ten to fifteen minutes. Let's fill in this grid.
Somebody and I will say this, somebody on Twitter suggested

(43:34):
you specifically for one of these grip.

Speaker 1 (43:36):
Oh okay, I'm go. I guarantee you. I'm in the
far right for this.

Speaker 2 (43:42):
For the same for the same square. Somebody on that
same post tweeted, any of the washed.

Speaker 1 (43:50):
Up walk Ons fill in this one? All right, I'm
going to guess it's bad player. Fans are divided, right,
it was bad player loved by fans. Oh out take it, man,
I'll take it. It's like, eh, fucking I'll take it.
Bad player.

Speaker 2 (44:06):
But the problem was I I kind of took offense
to that because, you know, for my role in what
I was doing, I was you were great at what
you did.

Speaker 1 (44:13):
I was pretty good.

Speaker 2 (44:14):
I mean I don't know if I'll go to great,
but like I will personally say I was pretty good.
I was really I was a really good long snapper.
Maybe not great, maybe not all time. I was a
really good long snapper. So I was a good player
for what.

Speaker 1 (44:26):
Yeah, I'm hesitant to put anyone in that that far right,
Calm man, it's.

Speaker 2 (44:30):
Just oh no, there's definitely some bad players. I mean,
we could alienate some former teammates, which, yeah, I want
to do that. Drake Kolick. Fans are divided.

Speaker 1 (44:41):
Bad player. I don't know if our fans even divided anymore.
He might be in that bottom row now hated by fans.

Speaker 2 (44:51):
Uh So I'll alienate one former teammate just because it's
the most obvious answer.

Speaker 1 (44:58):
Our boy akrom wad hated by fans. Great player, Yeah, sure, yep,
I'll second that.

Speaker 2 (45:04):
Akrim absolutely goes and I don't even have to. I
think everyone just agrees with me. After you scam fans
out of money by selling footballs that you never send
and uh and then try to fuck the university over
by suing them to grab like one hundred and seventy K. Yeah,
I think you. I think you're in there. So we'll
just phill Ackerman in that bottom left square. Great player, though,

(45:27):
I mean, the fucking guy had just unbelievable feet. I
mean I don't I don't know if there's ever been
as someone as shifty as him. Literally could not have
won multiple games without him, the two that stick out
of the Michigan game and the Iowa State game.

Speaker 3 (45:41):
Yep.

Speaker 2 (45:42):
Uh just made some unworldly plays that I mean more talent.
I mean he did one some of the there was
one run in that Michigan game. He lost a shoe.
He was still juking people out.

Speaker 1 (45:54):
Yep, he was. He was a special talent, No doubt
he was elite. But we'll start back up there.

Speaker 2 (45:59):
Great player loved by fans, Great player loved by fans.

Speaker 1 (46:04):
I'm just gonna pull the easy card, and it's it's
now kick you know.

Speaker 2 (46:06):
Yeah, Okay, So this is what you listening to.

Speaker 1 (46:09):
His his his heisman exceptance speech BeForever and gets me
a little teary eyed. And I think the fans really
freaking love it. And the stadium's named after the guy.
Ain't nobody besides Tyler Kloris says a bad thing about
the guy.

Speaker 2 (46:24):
Okay, got him in the top left corner. I'm also
gonna put him there. This is what the community did
as well. They're not finished. They're like halfway through it
on here. Great player for his time, great player maybe
for a long time. Put him in today's world as
he was not a fair thing to do, right because
again I think as a human race, we've gained like

(46:45):
two or three inches on our average heights. He would
have been bigger. All this stuff hard impossible to project.
But if you take five seven Nile Kinnick from nineteen
thirty nine and you stick him on the twenty twenty
five defensive roster or the offensive roster is getting waxed. Nonetheless,
great player loved by fans. I'll connect top left corner. Okay,

(47:08):
we'll go across as we're reading average player loved by fans. Now,
the answer that Twitter came up with this one I
thought was egregious based off of how good they were.

Speaker 1 (47:22):
I'll tell you we're not. You will not say you
will not.

Speaker 2 (47:25):
Come up with this person. You'll be like, Wow, that
doesn't make any sense. Average player loved by fans. This
is kind of tough because all the names that come
to mind are are people that we played with, and
I really don't want to call anybody average.

Speaker 1 (47:41):
Well, it's tough to get a gauge on how loved
people were by the fans, true pre social media era.

Speaker 2 (47:48):
Right, how do you know? Right? How do you know? Yeah?
The hated by fans is going to have to be
somebody within the last ten years, because that's how you
know people hate them as they say it on Twitter
pretty much.

Speaker 1 (48:01):
Yeah. Uh, can I go like Nick easily? Here? I
think he is bad? I mean, he's what is your
definition of average?

Speaker 2 (48:09):
Though?

Speaker 1 (48:10):
I thought he balled out?

Speaker 2 (48:11):
But like, if we're talking on a scale of like
how good is this guy in all of college football?
He was like your average white receiver.

Speaker 1 (48:18):
I would say he was above average man. I mean
he spent some time with the Bill. You're right he did.
This is nothing against ease, by the way, is a
dog I love easily.

Speaker 2 (48:30):
You know.

Speaker 1 (48:31):
My mind goes to like the pulse and twins like.

Speaker 2 (48:34):
Oh yeah, not you know, not your not your NFL
like like good, like I don't know, not great.

Speaker 1 (48:41):
Didn't have it, didn't have a career in the apportunity average,
above average, you know starters they played and loved. But yeah,
who doesn't look they I don't know anybody has anything
bad to say about the Paul is a.

Speaker 2 (48:54):
Great answer for that one. Put both of them in there, okay,
and then you for the start square bad player love
by fans.

Speaker 1 (49:01):
That's that's where you're gonna go with. I'm not gonna
not you would not have been my pick. But someone
who do the fans choose for that top middle run?

Speaker 2 (49:08):
Ricky Stansy?

Speaker 1 (49:10):
What average?

Speaker 2 (49:12):
No, bro, dude was good to really good? Maybe not great,
but really good.

Speaker 1 (49:20):
You can't put anyone who goes to the league in
the middle column. I agree, that's atrocious.

Speaker 2 (49:26):
Uh you'll ship it who they put in this this
one too bad player loved by fans. Oh man, I'll
just tell you they put Nico RAGAINI in this play
bad thought, dude. I'm like, was pretty good. I mean
there's that. It's not a great like, it's there's like, Okay,

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the bad players don't play right pretty much. Yeah, I
mean yeah, or they do like for a year and
they don't produce a bad player loved by fans fans.

Speaker 1 (49:56):
I don't know, man, we have to say somebody is bad.
Drake he does not belong in the top column or
top row for some people really love him. Uh, bad player,
bad player.

Speaker 2 (50:10):
Spencer Peachers wasn't I don't know if you can call
him good.

Speaker 1 (50:16):
Just wasn't.

Speaker 2 (50:16):
Wasn't good? Yeah, And I love Spence came on the
podcast fucking awesome, dude.

Speaker 1 (50:23):
I think he's loved by a lot of people now,
I mean he was. He was an ultimate teammate, right,
like ultimate. Maybe he's just loved by his teammates. I
don't know if he's like I think towards the end,
fans appreciated that his character, you know, fighting through the
insane amount of hate that he took, I would like

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to think and just doing it with nothing but class
that you know, he got a pretty good senior day ovation.
Deacon Hill sneaky. I don't know if the fans love Hill.
I don't know either.

Speaker 2 (50:59):
These are tough. We'll go with features. Okay, now we're
into the fans are divided?

Speaker 1 (51:05):
Section?

Speaker 2 (51:06):
Back to great player.

Speaker 1 (51:08):
Dj K Are the fans divided?

Speaker 2 (51:12):
I think a lot of people who either just didn't
buy into the stories or like are just like pet
to buy.

Speaker 1 (51:17):
Into the stories that he was dealing drugs.

Speaker 2 (51:20):
Hey dude, allegedly bro allegedly great player. I'm trying to
think of who else would who else would fans be
divided on?

Speaker 1 (51:34):
I don't know, It's tough.

Speaker 2 (51:36):
I mean, like, you really got to find some like
in Iowa football. You gotta find like those very few
controversial characters that are like I mean, theoretically you could
almost put Drake here.

Speaker 1 (51:46):
I don't know if you call.

Speaker 2 (51:47):
Him a great player.

Speaker 1 (51:48):
He's not a great player.

Speaker 2 (51:49):
He was he was a full back for two years.
I mean, Drake, if this gets back to you, you
were good.

Speaker 1 (51:55):
I don't care. I'll tell Drake to his face that
you weren't a great player. Sorry, Bud, Yeah, we put
we put Nile Kinnick in.

Speaker 2 (52:07):
The Okay, Okay, you're right. You're right. We can't.

Speaker 1 (52:13):
Getting me crazy that it's offensive that we're not.

Speaker 2 (52:15):
Talent talent wise in these two. In these two we
have Akron Wadley and Nile Kinnick.

Speaker 1 (52:21):
Yeah, I don't know if we can drink in that
talent category. Great player that fans are divided on. I
don't know. I mean, maybe DJK has enough support to
be in the fans are divided, bro.

Speaker 2 (52:34):
I think there's a fair amount of people who like
looked past it or didn't ever allow themselves to like
really be or they were like, uh, you know, they're
part of the fan base. They're like, no, screw screw
the coaches. He got screwed. He should have got more
playing time. I believe what he says about the situation.
I think I don't know. I think they went with
DJK online too. I'm not sure this middle one could

(52:57):
be the who's who's average and the fans are divided
on it? Does Drake end up here? Is? I mean,
this is a perfect spot for Drake Kolick.

Speaker 1 (53:09):
I mean, this just feels like you just name a
random guy who was, like, you know, a good player,
but like no one had not even fans are divided,
but no one had to tache any feelings toward him whatsoever.

Speaker 2 (53:22):
I want to say that online they went with Nate
here Stanley, Nate Stanley. Yeah, he's not a bad choice.
I do personally think he's better than average.

Speaker 1 (53:31):
I think now he was a better than average quarterback,
and I think in the last six years his legacy
has grown substantially. Oh, we had to see at the
quarterback position.

Speaker 2 (53:43):
No one's had a better come up than Nate Stanley exactly.

Speaker 1 (53:45):
Yeah, he was not appreciated during his time.

Speaker 2 (53:48):
I wonder how many people have DMed him now years
after the fact and they're like, dude, I'm so sorry,
I wish we fucking had you back. Still, the best
story ever is when tweeted something. I think so Nate
tweeted something or I tweeted something and we I was like,
Nate still owes me for giving him an extra touchdown

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pass during that Ohio State game, and he venmoed me
ten minutes later sixty nine cents. Still one of the
best things. And I never even talked to the guy.
I don't think I ever have any vent I'd never
venmoed him before. I didn't we weren't having like a
behind the scenes conversation. I literally just tweeted like, yeah,
Nate still owes me. Ten minutes later, I get a venmo.

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I was laughing my ass off.

Speaker 1 (54:31):
That's funny, man, that's funny. It was a good dude.
It was a good ultimate dude.

Speaker 2 (54:37):
Yeah, quiet guy, but just great guy.

Speaker 1 (54:41):
Yeah. Man, these uh, this middle middle road stuff, I
don't I don't know how to judge it.

Speaker 2 (54:47):
Bad player fans are divided. This is a weird one.
I don't know, like fans, I don't know. It's it's
hard to say with the fans, we're not really fans.
Bad players, right, bad player loved by fans? Oh Spencer?

Speaker 1 (55:03):
Oh yeah, is that is that who the fans put?
I think there was no they put an eco? Oh
they put an Ecoh yeah, that makes no sense.

Speaker 2 (55:10):
Bad player fans are divided. Uh, bad Like who's a
bad who's a bad play It's so hard for me
to say who's a bad player. It's tough because like,
if you're bad, you don't really play right, And so
if you don't play, fans don't really have an opinion
on you.

Speaker 1 (55:27):
So you had to be good enough to play. But
bad enough to like people know that he were bad.

Speaker 2 (55:35):
I have no idea, Uh, like, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (55:42):
I think I honestly I'm bad.

Speaker 2 (55:44):
Could we just go to the we already did Akram
average player hated by fans. Now Drake really could he
could slip into that one.

Speaker 1 (55:51):
Yeah, I mean yeah he could. He could easily fall
into that category.

Speaker 2 (55:56):
And bad player hated by fans.

Speaker 1 (55:59):
It's funny because that I got somebody fucking what's his name?
Spend a year God damn it spent.

Speaker 2 (56:12):
A year ago the freshman wide receiver.

Speaker 1 (56:16):
Yeah, what was his name? Kayleb? Brown? And Brown? Yeah
it might be Yeah, sure, that's that's when we went
through out there.

Speaker 2 (56:27):
Who is that kid from from Iowa City West that
went to Michigan and then came to Iowa for one year?

Speaker 1 (56:33):
And then oh, that's how Drake got on the map
being hated by what was he?

Speaker 3 (56:39):
Is? He?

Speaker 2 (56:39):
A bad player hated by fans? I forget the kid's name.
We did a whole podcast about him.

Speaker 1 (56:45):
Yeah, I don't even remember. It was a long time.
That was like the night before your wedding.

Speaker 2 (56:49):
Yeah, and we I not me, but you and a
couple other people. We had just come come home from
the like the rehearsal dinner. Yeah, and we're like, yeah,
we're gonna do a podcast in the living room of
my house and half of us are intoxicated. What do
you guys think about this freshman recruit who chose Michigan
over Iowa? And all of what we said became true.

(57:09):
Eventually we looked like Nostradamus. But at the time people
were like, yeah, maybe not the best idea to get
on a podcast drunk and talk about a four star
recruit that went to Michigan and then his career ended
up never panning out, and.

Speaker 1 (57:23):
We looked like geniuses. But never doubt your drunk self, right,
I mean.

Speaker 2 (57:28):
Truth comes out right, be a bad idea for us
to do a drunk podcast now we know too much
and we're too far away from the thing that like
everything would slip out, all of our opinions, true opinions, truth.

Speaker 1 (57:42):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, don't care, don't care as much anymore. Yeah,
I mean, I'm actually interested to see how this whole,
this whole, this whole graph shapes out. So what do
they have so far? So we got I'll just take
you to the one to their updated version.

Speaker 2 (57:57):
So they have uh, Niall and great player love by fans,
Stanzy and average player love by fans, Nico RAGAINI and
bad player love by fans. DJ Kay and fans are divided,
great player and Nate Stanley in fans are divided average player.
See that's just such a it is a fan thing.

(58:17):
It does say love by fans. Fans are divided, like
but from the inside the respect that Nate had from
his teammates and like people knew he was a good quarterback.
And also fans are divided. There should be no reason
why fans are divided over.

Speaker 1 (58:33):
I mean, maybe they're divided over like how good he
was or whatever.

Speaker 2 (58:36):
I don't sure, but like, I mean, that's I guess.

Speaker 1 (58:40):
I don't know. I don't know where they get get off.
Nico a bad player.

Speaker 2 (58:44):
I don't know how Ricky, Stanzy and average player shout
out to skitz o'hawk one of the Uh, I think
he's just a burner one of the.

Speaker 1 (58:54):
His name is skitz o'hawk. He has Mark Gronowski.

Speaker 2 (58:58):
Photoshopped over the sun rise as his Twitter banner and
uh yeah, I mean somehow he made it onto our podcast.
That's that's that's where we're at.

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