Cardi B & Offset Expose Each Other, The Marvin Sapp Video, Will Smith's New Album & More!

Tone Kapone, KeKe, and Zach Boog talk Cardi B & Offset Expose Each Other, The Marvin Sapp Video, Will Smith's New Album & More!

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:02):
All right, y'all, welcome to the wal Want can I
say podcast in this episode?

Speaker 2 (00:06):
What I'm writer? Too old?

Speaker 1 (00:09):
Food?

Speaker 2 (00:11):
Oh yeah, we skipped today. Becuz right, it wasn't in
town yep, so it's all right as fault. He was
out cooking grits and shrimp for the hole, for the ladies.

Speaker 1 (00:25):
He's for the hole, for this, for the hose. He
gave something to shake. He was waiting on something to shake.
He said, y'all want some breakfast. I got some momosa.

Speaker 3 (00:33):
He always got some food in the drink, because you.

Speaker 2 (00:36):
Know that's what the hose. You got to have food.
And Drake speaking of the hose, but she's not. I
know you.

Speaker 1 (00:42):
I know, I know you ain't Kiki. At some point
we know who the hose is. What no not saying
it you a hole, But you have been caught. You
have been the hose before.

Speaker 3 (00:56):
I ain't never been a hole.

Speaker 1 (00:57):
No, it's not about to be hole.

Speaker 2 (01:00):
You have been the hole.

Speaker 3 (01:03):
You don't know you hose and Keiki keep with the hose.
I ain't never been a hole. Ain't no ho in me,
And they gonna find out today they keep playing with me.

Speaker 2 (01:17):
No ho in me?

Speaker 1 (01:20):
Damn so let me tell you something, so you ain't
never been. It might not have been nobody who knew you,
because if they knew, the probably wouldn't say that. But
you can't tell me you wasn't over there. You and
your fine people. Y'all was in the corner and his
boy was like, what a hole over there?

Speaker 2 (01:33):
Boy? You was in that group?

Speaker 3 (01:37):
Some holes up in here today?

Speaker 2 (01:42):
About what these I just I was joking. I was
she could take everything me.

Speaker 3 (01:50):
Y'all got me severely. I can't even get my mic right.
How y'all got to start this episode? I don't even
because I'm a woman of God. What is all of
this thought clean? Y'all?

Speaker 2 (02:03):
It'll move today? Damn now? Who and what? Something else?
It's just the rest of the hose? Come on? Wow,
that was Kik. That's right, fresh off the pop up
comedy show.

Speaker 3 (02:22):
Speaking a hose, baby, I mean zach No every hoe
in Chicago, Okay, in Northwest Indiana and surrounding areas. I
ain't never seen a comedy show. It's all women. He
don't make no nigga laugh. He ain't made a man laugh,
and god damn it, only man he may laugh.

Speaker 2 (02:45):
Let me tell you some song and one't.

Speaker 3 (02:47):
No man in there. All women, every levery flavor, every size,
every profession. This man is a smooth criminal.

Speaker 2 (02:57):
Let me tell you.

Speaker 3 (02:58):
He had women pulling up on the web sat as
Chicago in the rain to see him. Yeah, he's something special.

Speaker 4 (03:04):
Oh yeah, Zach definitely has a very very very large
female fan base.

Speaker 2 (03:12):
Oh that's great. I went there.

Speaker 4 (03:14):
I was the only dude in that minus the comics. Yes,
the ladies love book.

Speaker 1 (03:19):
Yeah, the lady love Okay. Here's the thing, y'all not
gonna do that. If you watch comedy, most comedy shows
are field with women.

Speaker 3 (03:27):
No, that's not true.

Speaker 1 (03:28):
That's how comedy shows usually are. That's who supports comedies. Women.
Guys don't be like, oh, let's go to the comedy show.
Have you and your guys ever been like, let's go
hit the show. If you didn't know somebody, we did
like we did because we knew the holes was there.

Speaker 2 (03:44):
Thank you. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (03:46):
Thank you.

Speaker 2 (03:47):
So it's just that women come to shows, that's all that.

Speaker 4 (03:50):
Shout out David Williams, shout out Wills dam used to
let me and Shad come along, man leon like man, y'all,
y'all good y'all.

Speaker 2 (03:58):
We got y'all some seats because it the holes in there. Ya.

Speaker 1 (04:02):
Women like comedy shows that that's just the men love
comedy and want the man up in there.

Speaker 2 (04:08):
Not one man.

Speaker 3 (04:09):
Okay, Zach be my man, thank you be for real? Though, Zach,
you did have all of every flavor up in there.

Speaker 2 (04:17):
It was I mean, there were people there.

Speaker 3 (04:19):
What you do like sitting out a mask group text
or like, how did you how did you get all
the women there?

Speaker 2 (04:24):
Did you put the fire up?

Speaker 3 (04:27):
Just's just like that you put on your social media.
They't coming, No, it ain't.

Speaker 2 (04:30):
That for real. That's just who comes out is women
like comedy. They like to laugh. That's all it is.

Speaker 1 (04:37):
Because I'm gonna let you know. If you're single and
you don't, you don't got nothing going on? Man. Uh
you want to laugh, have good entertainment and be around
the holes.

Speaker 2 (04:47):
Go to a Zach Bull pop up. You got another
one coming?

Speaker 3 (04:51):
Oh, he gonna keep them coming up for Zach Bug.

Speaker 2 (04:56):
Honey.

Speaker 3 (04:57):
I walked in there. They treat me like Beyonce. This
is what it's like being Zach friend. I know what
it's like being tone friends, but damn it, I was
Zach friend.

Speaker 4 (05:05):
That night.

Speaker 3 (05:06):
I said, oh, this is nice.

Speaker 2 (05:09):
Was happy to see baby.

Speaker 3 (05:11):
Next time I'm coming, I'm selling some merch or something, okay,
because it was a lot.

Speaker 2 (05:14):
It was a lot going on up in there.

Speaker 1 (05:16):
I was just happy to produce Za Zach's comedy special
for YouTube.

Speaker 2 (05:20):
He won't let me.

Speaker 3 (05:20):
Do it because you're always trying to put papers on
somebody relaxed. I think about time. He gonna help you
get some money. Baby, bro, he gonna put you on
some papers. Okay, y'all relax, okay, But yeah, Zach is
the new Prince of comedy.

Speaker 1 (05:37):
I was really happy to see Keiky. I'm happy that
you came. I'm glad you supported. I'm well thank you.
I'm glad that you came to.

Speaker 2 (05:43):
What did I say when I walked into the webside?

Speaker 3 (05:45):
I said it better be funny, Yes, she said, drove
all the way out here, you better make me laugh.

Speaker 2 (05:49):
And you dig up the whole shot.

Speaker 3 (05:51):
Did it was? It was great.

Speaker 2 (05:53):
She had a good time.

Speaker 3 (05:54):
He had some really funny comedians up there too, really
really funny comedians.

Speaker 2 (05:58):
Good. Yeah, one last the last pop up the bomb.
But that was cool. She was okay, c yeah, just cute.

Speaker 3 (06:06):
You did not have to bring that up.

Speaker 2 (06:09):
She did. She bomb. She's really smart.

Speaker 1 (06:12):
She's really smart, and she came out there talking all
smart and everybody was.

Speaker 2 (06:15):
Like, man, I don't know what you're talking about. Really. Yeah,
he didn't have it. He had all men.

Speaker 1 (06:20):
That's what scared me. What about doing my uh my
breakout comedy?

Speaker 2 (06:26):
Yoused to have been there.

Speaker 3 (06:28):
You would have been This would have been your night, okay,
because you could have just stood there and all them
women in that would have been like, it's so funny.
They would have been found out to flow for you. Yes,
this was your night.

Speaker 2 (06:39):
I got it.

Speaker 4 (06:40):
It came up too fast. I got to work on
mama boutine in front of act. I just gotta do
it in like him and Leon and they just they
helped me out. I only need three minutes, so it's
needs three minutes. Three minutes. I think I could get it.
I'm gonna do it before one of these, so you'll
do the next one. That's a little When is the
next one. I think i'mna do the next one at
the beginning.

Speaker 1 (07:01):
Getting into May. So I got a whole month to
work a month to work it out. Today is April first,
so you got a.

Speaker 3 (07:07):
Month all you got to do is coming in and
smile at his audience. They gonna be It's gonna be great.
It's gonna be great. Let's go ahead and get to
the pod, y'all.

Speaker 1 (07:17):
All right, Carti be accused us all set of harassing
her and threatening to end their lives and sending expensive
videos of them having sex to the guy that she's dating.
She crashed out online and got a little audio of that.
Let's take a look at Carti b Let's take a listen.

Speaker 5 (07:36):
Actually, for the past couple of months, I've been very quiet,
but I've been going through a lot of stuff. First
and first, this guy right is upset because I sent
his girlfriend text messages of him begging me, begging me
saying Who's gonna take away his life?

Speaker 3 (07:54):
Begging me saying he's gonna take.

Speaker 5 (07:55):
Away my life? All that he was mad. He's mad
about that.

Speaker 3 (07:59):
Mind you.

Speaker 5 (08:00):
This man send text messages to somebody that I was
dealing of me and him having sex.

Speaker 2 (08:05):
That's the top I've been dealing with.

Speaker 5 (08:07):
Every time he knows that I go out of town,
he harasses me, he leaves me voice notes, trying to
pull my self esteem to the ground. And I'm so
tired of it.

Speaker 2 (08:16):
Oh, she's so tired of it.

Speaker 4 (08:18):
And also in another part of that ideal, she says
she's going to air out his dirty lune and if
he keeps it.

Speaker 2 (08:23):
Up, go ahead. This is messy.

Speaker 1 (08:29):
I'm sick of both of them, and that's just how
I feel at this point. I'm sick of both of y'all.
I'm not on nobody's side. I just I'm sick of
both of y'all and CARDI. I know he shouldn't have
sent those explicit videos to somebody you talk to. I
think that's corny. I think that's lame. I think you
make yourself look bad fellas when you do that. Like
that's the ultimate lame thing to do, is try to

(08:50):
put out girls. I never even understood if that being revenged,
Like you know what I'm saying, Like, that's just a
weird concept to me. Oh, let me show you when
I was having sex with you too, with my with
my wife, Like that's that's weird. That's just so weird.
So I can't take you know, I can't talk about that.
But you also said that you sent.

Speaker 2 (09:12):
You started off.

Speaker 1 (09:13):
You said he's mad that I sent text messages to
his girl about what he was saying to you. Yeah,
he was because you sent something that y'all was texting
to somebody else. And y'all both need to stop it.
It's not just Cardi, it's not just Offset. Both of
y'all need to figure it out. Okay, like, but leave

(09:33):
us out.

Speaker 2 (09:34):
I'm tired. They have warre me out.

Speaker 1 (09:37):
They getting ready to go to the same list that
I put blue Face in Krishano. They headed to that
list where I don't give a damn no more and
we ain't gonna talk about it no more.

Speaker 2 (09:46):
Y'all y'all stressing me out. Hmmm Ki Ki, Yeah, this toxic.

Speaker 3 (09:50):
I think this is they still want each other, still
probably gonna end up back together. I feel like they've
been tip they've been creeping around with each other since
they announced the divorce with us. This is all this is.
It's just backfire from that. They had a bad day
that day, so both the guys she talking to got
his feelings hurt that day and his girlfriend got her
feelings hurt that day. Because that's what we do when

(10:11):
we're in toxic relationships and we haven't moved on and
we still messing around with each other. So when you
get mad at me, I'm gonna text your girlfriend and
tell her girl, he was just on my line yesterday.
And then you get mad at me. So you said,
might do a video of me and you recently, probably
with the dates snap on it like I just was
smashing her Like it's not a flex on either one
of y'r y'all both look dumb at this point, and

(10:31):
you know, CARTI we i'm'na just be real. I love
her down and her fans we riding.

Speaker 2 (10:37):
We holding on.

Speaker 3 (10:38):
Yeah, if you don't give us an album soon, sis,
and you keep up this, like you said, you gonna
find yourself over there with the mother people that you
are much better than. So I really hope that this
can be like you know, she's it's like when you
a crack addict and you going through your steps of
getting clean.

Speaker 2 (10:56):
She had a quick little relapse.

Speaker 3 (10:58):
Let's get back on the bus and try to get
it right, you know, and then hopefully we can move
forward to some new music. But if these Shenatikins keep going,
you're gonna like you're losing us.

Speaker 1 (11:09):
Yeah, it's crazy, it's crazy. All I can say is
the quickest way to get somebody off. Your girl is
show him what she being. It's not oh yeah, hey,
so Zach, you know this. There are guys.

Speaker 4 (11:24):
There are guys that let's say Zach starts talking to
a new girl, nobody really seen her before you come
in the club, and the first thing the dude tried
to say, tell you where she been, the hater dude
that wants her.

Speaker 2 (11:39):
That is the quickest way.

Speaker 4 (11:40):
No, you can't tell another dude like, yeah, man, you
know I heard this. So she ain't got no money
or any any type of rumors. The quickest way to
get a guy off of a woman is to show
where she been.

Speaker 2 (11:54):
And that's all all set try to do. He's trying
to keep everybody off.

Speaker 1 (11:57):
Cardy he tried to get while he's still has his
situation going on. And that's why she like, Yo, you're
trying to keep these dudes off because you said you're
heard that in the audio she said a guy that
she was talking to, so it probably worked. So she like, oh,
you want to mess mine up, I'm gonna mess yours up.
And in the midst of it, they all probably still

(12:19):
mess with each other. I don't necessarily think that. I mean,
for y'all y'all might be off of her. I just
think Cardi is so it's her personality. Yeah, it's outside
of rap for her, You know what I mean? I
think we stay interested in locked in the Cardi this long.
I mean, how many people we stayed locked in this
long off of one album?

Speaker 3 (12:39):
That's what I'm saying. But I mean, because that's what.

Speaker 2 (12:42):
I'm saying, it's her. I don't think you never go
because she got that. She's a star.

Speaker 3 (12:47):
She's an absolute superstar. She's a superstar. But we get
tied of superstars when they keep doing stupid stuff.

Speaker 2 (12:53):
I don't know. I don't know.

Speaker 3 (12:54):
I just want to mess for her, and I want
her to I want her to come on, like come.

Speaker 4 (12:57):
On, because she made her think about it though she
made a whole start off of talking to us on Instagram.

Speaker 3 (13:05):
Your friend want to keep calling you about the same,
like you keep calling me about the same. Man, I
don't care, you know what I'm saying, Like whatever, y'all,
I don't care. Don't call me with this no more.
Everybody gets tired of their friend calling them about this,
especially when your friend got the world in front of her, Like, girl,
come on, man, damn, what.

Speaker 2 (13:24):
What he gotta do.

Speaker 3 (13:25):
Yeah, you know, like what else you want him to do?
And to your point about you know, him trying to
get the men off of her, that's only gonna work
so with certain men because the me and she's probably
dating now they don't love her. He loves offset lover.
They don't love her, you know what I'm saying. So
sending me here your pictures are you smashing her? I'm
aa lik it and smash or something like bro this

(13:46):
yo yo, you lost your cheek. So, I mean, you
can do that only so many times. But I feel
like the new dude's gonna be like.

Speaker 2 (13:52):
I don't care. That doesn't work.

Speaker 1 (13:54):
That strategy doesn't work, especially dude she's messing with Like
he said, it doesn't.

Speaker 2 (13:58):
It just doesn't work. He's not gonna be like, oh,
I don't want to mess with you.

Speaker 1 (14:01):
Only way it could work if he say, man, y'all
still got a lot going on and it's too messy
for me. But the actual sending of the video, they
don't care. They know you were smashing that's your wife.
It's so weird to I think it's so weird to
leak somebody that you were dating nudes or or videos
like that's just that's cringe worthy to me. Like, I
don't understand why guys think that hurts the woman. That

(14:24):
only makes you look stupid. It only makes you look stupid,
been a bad person, and it's and it's terrible, and
then it makes other women be like, I ain't gonna
mess with you because look what you do.

Speaker 2 (14:33):
You know what I'm saying. Let me tell you something.

Speaker 1 (14:35):
A woman who has ever sent me a nude arms
you are safe me.

Speaker 2 (14:43):
I ain't you never let I ain't letting it go. Baby,
I ain't letting it go. I will never. I don't
care how we end. I would never do that.

Speaker 4 (14:52):
I had. Some of them asked me to to lead them.
I'm like, I will. I didn't.

Speaker 3 (14:58):
That's so stupid. That's even was ask somebody to delete them, right.

Speaker 2 (15:02):
I've never deleted the folder. They're in a cool little folder. Yeah,
called retirement, not to talk upon graveyard.

Speaker 4 (15:14):
Look with retirement means like when I get old old
and I'm chilling what the whole way? I mean, I
can see where I've been. Boy, you used to be
one of them, you know, I mean.

Speaker 1 (15:28):
Getting in Look at that move, boy, Yeah, I.

Speaker 2 (15:36):
Usually dropped the camera because it's good. We try to
get you a t.

Speaker 1 (15:44):
I don't personally and I don't like looking at like porn,
and I don't like looking at other people.

Speaker 2 (15:50):
Born word. I want to look at me. Wow.

Speaker 4 (15:56):
All right, all right, let's go get to this Marvins key, key,
the lord's work. Listen, don't go to a marvisap I
said it.

Speaker 6 (16:04):
Close them doors, close the doors, close the doors, close
the doors.

Speaker 2 (16:09):
We all gonna leave together.

Speaker 6 (16:11):
There's one thousand of you tonight, and those that are watching.
It's a thousand that's watching online. This is a small seed.
If I get a thousand online to give this, if
I get a thousand in the sanctuary to give this,
that's forty thousand dollars tonight.

Speaker 2 (16:27):
Whoa what was it? Two hundred dollars apiece for it?
What is it? It was twenty a piece, Yeah, twenty
twenty dollars.

Speaker 1 (16:33):
If you want, everybody give twenty dollars, that'll been two
thousand times twenty, which is forty thousand.

Speaker 2 (16:37):
Thank you. That ain't bad at all. That ain't bad,
But it sounded terrible.

Speaker 3 (16:43):
It sounds terrible when y'all put it on the internet
to a bunch of people who ain't never been to
church in their life and don't don't understand church or
understand you know, what he was doing. That's when it
gets crazy and it sounds bad. But if you if
you've been going to church all your life, this is
not new to you. It's not new to me. I've
been in fleinny churches where they don't they don't say
it just the way he said it. Of course he

(17:04):
had a little extra in there, but we've all been
in the service where they like, all right, everybody in here,
get ten dollars, we gonna get sister Sharey some new
tires or something like that. You know what I'm saying.
And it's not like Marvin Sap took the money and
put it in his pocket and went home.

Speaker 1 (17:18):
Now, I know, but we didn't. Usually, Kiki, you know,
I'm a preacher's kid. I know about that, yes, and
I've heard it. But usually we have a direct Maybe
they didn't cut it right, but usually you know exactly
what we're raising money for today. In this moment, you
know what I'm saying, it may be like, hey, everybody
give twenty dollars right now, that'll be forty thousand dollars.
We are forty thousand short from getting the new building,

(17:41):
and I feel like we can do that today. Let's
collect the offer. Let's let's reach that goal today. You
know what I'm saying, you gotta make What Marvin Sap
messed up is he didn't make the director. We didn't
know from the clip. We didn't know where the forty
was going. All we heard closed the dough. Yeah I
got a thousand. He told us how many people?

Speaker 2 (17:59):
Was it? Thousand?

Speaker 3 (18:00):
Here you did quick man?

Speaker 2 (18:01):
He did a quick good man, did a drug man.
That's a thousand over there. Everybody give me twenty. That's
forty bad? Yeah, what are we doing? Where's the forty going?
What's this?

Speaker 1 (18:12):
Tours were getting ready to feed the homeless? What is
the like it should have just been.

Speaker 2 (18:16):
And you know it well?

Speaker 3 (18:17):
He said that, you know good and well service. It
was said because black they don't know where.

Speaker 1 (18:25):
No reason I don't know is because when he went
I went and saw where he went. On the Ricky
Smiley Show, he never mentioned where the money was going. Like,
I feel like that would have been one of the
first things I would have said. It's like, hey, y'all,
y'all missed the part where I said, we're helping the elderly.
He just said he just wanted forty that night. And
if you just want a ball, you can't do it

(18:47):
like that, man, you gotta do it more players. The Lord,
it says in the scripture, I'm a preacher's kid.

Speaker 2 (18:52):
Period. The Lord says, be a cheerful giver.

Speaker 1 (18:55):
Not a locked in gift, you know, not a maid
to give give.

Speaker 2 (19:02):
Okay, close the door. That's what. It don't sound good, man,
it don't sound good. Sounded good? What what you just said.
I don't know if you quote it that cheerful giver.

Speaker 1 (19:12):
God wants a cheerful Yeah, yep, but that but then
you said the other part of it that makes sense.

Speaker 2 (19:16):
That wasn't scripture, Okay, that.

Speaker 3 (19:19):
Was that was That was from the Book of.

Speaker 2 (19:23):
But yeah, okay, I was wondering. I was like, that's all.

Speaker 1 (19:27):
He didn't tell us what he wanted the money for.
You just can't say, close thought, give me a thous.

Speaker 3 (19:30):
He didn't say it in that clip.

Speaker 2 (19:31):
I'm sure he was.

Speaker 1 (19:32):
Then he's heard the back. He was like, yeah, y'all
up here, y'all got to give a hundred. He was like, leadership,
y'all give one hundred.

Speaker 2 (19:46):
You want to be on that leadership team and casts
you a little bird. He didn't.

Speaker 1 (19:50):
He didn't go in his pocket one time with a
forty thousan dollars rolegs on that.

Speaker 4 (19:55):
But you know what, this is the role with church
given that. It it's a very it's a touchy thing.
It's a touchy thing. I mean when I first started
going to church a lot of and I was going
and trying out different churches, that was like the way
the giving and the offering was done, it just rubbed
me the wrong way. And I remember then I went

(20:17):
to fellowship and you know they've had hey, look we
need you to give on top of this and that.
And I remember I asked my mom. I was like, yo,
it was this a hustle. She'd be like no, she
was like, just do it, just do the giving and
watch what happened. And I was like, one thing I
had was gonna do is listen to my mama more
to come to church. You a little bit more locked
in back then than I was. And I'll tell you guys, man,

(20:42):
it's on see where but I give. I don't even
think about it like I give it asked for some
extra bread give give, and I mean, I don't have
money problems.

Speaker 2 (20:50):
It's been in your life. You can't beat guys. I
don't even. I don't even. I don't necessarily say it's
been tenfold.

Speaker 4 (20:57):
But it's like it's like money will just pop up,
like it'll just come up, like things are like, Okay,
I want to do this.

Speaker 2 (21:05):
It just it just blessings happen. It will be.

Speaker 4 (21:08):
An event come through or this come through or that is.

Speaker 2 (21:12):
It's just real weird in a sense.

Speaker 4 (21:15):
So, I mean, so I know a lot of people,
like Kiki said to your point, you hear this and
you like damn. But I do think he should have
kept when he kept doing a good news brother, when
you're doing these interviews, say what the forty thousands for?
I think that you should lead that lead with that.

Speaker 3 (21:33):
Why do I see he better than me? Because I
wouldn't even be explaining to you heathens what I was doing.
I know what I was doing. I was collecting money
for God's house. Okay, why do I need to explain
to the internet. Y'all weren't even in the room. Y'all
aren't even there, y'all ain't paid a tab all year,
So why do I need to get up and explain
to y'all, cause what I was doing a hit dog

(21:53):
hollar because he's wrong. If he was right, he'd just
be like, you know what, I know what I was doing,
Marvin Stapp.

Speaker 2 (22:00):
I never would have paid it.

Speaker 3 (22:02):
Never would have paid it, Never would have paid.

Speaker 2 (22:10):
You locked that door, that's crazy.

Speaker 4 (22:14):
Locked the door that probably would have got say locked
you said, close.

Speaker 2 (22:18):
The door, close the door. I was like, y'all, y'all
messing that door.

Speaker 4 (22:23):
I don't play like that, Like like I got up
and left, like an't lock me in?

Speaker 2 (22:29):
Nowhere about that? Y'all better pay you all times? Okay,
all he did was die for you? Oh my god?
That is Church of key kidding, all right?

Speaker 1 (22:42):
They need the lord shot keys In and his mother
but found guilty on federal wire fraud charges and Fort
Lauderdale's like a million dollars worth of it and they
are facing up to twenty years.

Speaker 2 (22:53):
It's a sad story.

Speaker 3 (22:55):
Who better to do crime with, though than your mama?
And I was you know what I'm saying, like, who
better to do crime with? She's never snitching on you,
You know what I'm saying. She gonna have your back
through out the whole thing, you know, and she probably
she probably the mastermind. And I honestly think if you
do do crime with your mother, you shouldn't have to

(23:16):
do the time.

Speaker 2 (23:17):
You blame it on your ma. Your mama should have
to do your time because I listened to my mama.
You know what I'm saying, Judge, they'd be like, why
you do that? Ma? Mama said, right, when do you
go against what your mama say?

Speaker 1 (23:28):
I feel like she should have to do the time
if you do, if you do crime with your children,
you should take on the risk of getting caught.

Speaker 2 (23:35):
And if you do get caught, they shouldn't have to
go to jail. Just you because you're the adult.

Speaker 1 (23:39):
That's crazy. That's a grown man. But that makes sense though,
you grown man. But that's always your mama.

Speaker 3 (23:45):
Right, she can get more time, but she he need
to go to jail too.

Speaker 1 (23:49):
What my mama said, and the Bible it says to
obey your mother exactly.

Speaker 4 (23:53):
They both dumb as hell. Yeah, that's what it says.
Like you and your mama stupid. And this is the
dumbest thing ever. Sean King said, had bread got talent?

Speaker 1 (24:05):
Uh?

Speaker 4 (24:05):
And then you went and try to defraud the government.
It's not gonna work. It's not gonna work. Bro, They
coming for you. Ain't you black? And you gotta go
to jail with your mama.

Speaker 2 (24:14):
This was stupid.

Speaker 1 (24:15):
Uh, they're gonna be in different jails. Yeah, you gonna
see your MoMA exactly. Talk to each other. This is interesting.
Deon Sanders making money speaking of money of five year,
fifty four million dollar contract extension with the University of Carload.

Speaker 4 (24:31):
Congratulations going out to Dion. Zach what you saw this?
What you were thinking?

Speaker 2 (24:35):
Man?

Speaker 1 (24:35):
I said, Dion got paid. Man, he deserves it. You
got to think about how much money he's brought the
University of Colorado. You know, now the next next step
to be the highest paid coach in college football.

Speaker 2 (24:47):
I thinks to win, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (24:49):
I think that's the next step for him, and then
he then he can deserve to be the highest paid.
But I think just from his influence and the ticket
sales and everything Dion and the way the merchants being spent,
the way the TV deals. Shoot, he probably paying for
his own contract for real, He probably paying for his
own extension.

Speaker 2 (25:08):
Clicky what you're thinking?

Speaker 3 (25:10):
I love this?

Speaker 2 (25:12):
I love this.

Speaker 3 (25:12):
I think he deserves every penny they paying him, and
more he deserves because he's more than just a coach.
He's a mentor. I see him pouring into young people.
I see it even older guys. I feel like everybody
look up to Deion Sanders.

Speaker 1 (25:24):
I feel like he has done so much more outside
of the game of football at this point than any
any organization that he's a part of should pay top
dollar for him.

Speaker 3 (25:34):
So I love to see it.

Speaker 1 (25:36):
Yeah, no, I mean that. Actually, this is an interesting one.
Kirby Smart is the top.

Speaker 4 (25:43):
I don't see his contract, but he's the highest payed
college football coach, along with the Ohio State at number two,
and who is it Dabble Swingey at number three, Steve
Starke's into Texas at four, and Deon Sanders is now
number five.

Speaker 2 (26:00):
Shout out to Dion Sanders. Think he's number five? I
thought he was four four. Uh let's see. Yeah, No,
he is he is for, he is for. Yeah, man,
this is just hey, don't leave us. This is money.
Don't leave us. It's that don't leave us money.

Speaker 3 (26:19):
That's kind of money I want right now.

Speaker 2 (26:20):
That's what you that's what you that's what you know.

Speaker 4 (26:22):
Like when you hit that don't leave us money when
they know that everybody else wants you and they give
you a bag.

Speaker 2 (26:28):
That's this is a good feeling.

Speaker 3 (26:31):
It's a great feeling.

Speaker 2 (26:32):
You got some.

Speaker 1 (26:32):
Don't leave us monkey, every bad contract contract, Say, we
know your contract.

Speaker 2 (26:40):
You had Gucci hats. You signed your new deal, didn't you?

Speaker 3 (26:43):
No, I haven't. But this is a gift shout out
to my team.

Speaker 2 (26:48):
Got a meal at the d l N. I'm still
on the ground. I think you got a little little
like you got a deal, didn't you?

Speaker 3 (26:55):
No, not yet, but I would love some don't leave
me money.

Speaker 2 (26:59):
I want some.

Speaker 3 (27:00):
I want some don't leave me money from my job,
from my man, from y'all. Everybody need to give me
some don't leave me. Matter of fact, I might leave
right now. Well, how much locked locked it?

Speaker 2 (27:10):
Dog rider?

Speaker 3 (27:11):
I need?

Speaker 2 (27:13):
I need? We ain't got it? Locked it?

Speaker 1 (27:20):
No?

Speaker 2 (27:20):
I need forty thousand? Yeah? Good look, good, look, all right.
Let's get to this man.

Speaker 1 (27:27):
Also, Zach, have you enjoyed h hold on, you know,
before we do that, let's just let's just do this
real quick. I want you to hear this real quick. Okay,
then you should let me know what you think about it.
I'm way too caculated for me to ever get dominated.

Speaker 2 (27:41):
To promise you and I saw me. I see why
you be activated, took the lot. I'm not gonna time,
y'all gonna have to get activated.

Speaker 4 (27:46):
Stop my still though, I won't get dominated in personal biking, but.

Speaker 2 (27:50):
My wife's not.

Speaker 1 (27:50):
Your business is complicated all that now, that's just the
fact that I'm still getting compensated, period period. Big will
in the building, Big Willie. Yeah, Will is on a tour.
He has let everybody know what sub he's hitting, podcast streamings,
he got an eyebum, he got a tour coming, Zach,
will you ready put it.

Speaker 2 (28:08):
Into Will Smith.

Speaker 1 (28:09):
I'm not ready for it, but I'm happy for him,
I really am. I'm happy for Will because he seems happy,
you know what I'm saying. It looks like he's this
is a passion project for him and he wanted to
get back rapping, and I'm happy that he saw it
through and he's doing it.

Speaker 2 (28:22):
You know.

Speaker 1 (28:22):
Now, I don't know who he's making this music for,
you know, for you, I don't know. I really don't
know for our crowd. I don't know what crowd he's
I don't know who Will Smith music crowd is I
don't know the people who like.

Speaker 2 (28:36):
I got to hit that Will I don't.

Speaker 1 (28:39):
I don't know nobody who trying to hear him. But
I'm happy he's doing it, you know, like like you
happy for your uncle who.

Speaker 4 (28:50):
Gilly is a hot lie to Gilly's sitting there. Listen
they rapping him and wild rapping Will He's rapping old
Will Smith. Oh, I thought I wasn't new Will Smith.
That was that was fresh Prince Will Smith. That he
was rapping when you know, which we love? But who
is Will Smith making music for?

Speaker 1 (29:10):
Now? Who's his target audience? I would think it'd probably
be like the Tones of the World.

Speaker 2 (29:14):
Yeah, what are you talking about? Kiky? The one dressed
like the Naties drug dealer? I am and I don't.

Speaker 3 (29:21):
They'll give And that's what I want. I want the
rumors to start that.

Speaker 2 (29:24):
I'm so are you? Are you looking for listen for?

Speaker 3 (29:27):
I'm looking forward to anything Will Smith produces.

Speaker 2 (29:29):
So you've been listening to this? No? But I just
put me on? Okay? Have you I put you on? Yeah?
The album was out, did you listen to it?

Speaker 4 (29:38):
I didn't listen to a bunch of Will Smith at
Fresh prints when they were out originally like that way,
we wouldn't.

Speaker 2 (29:44):
We wasn't listening to that a lot. I mean, I'm
not mad at him, like it's great.

Speaker 4 (29:49):
It's great that he's rapping at doing something, because at
the end of the day, again, like you trying to say,
just think about it, where are the young dudes at?
That's why all the old dudes are rapping one say
what they want to do.

Speaker 2 (30:02):
It's a crab. But where the young dudes with the
new sound? What are you talking about?

Speaker 3 (30:10):
Okay, it sounds like you're saying none of these new
rappers making they things.

Speaker 1 (30:14):
I don't know what you mean by you know you're
talking about because my generation of hip hop was golden.

Speaker 2 (30:20):
It was it was golden. So let's just go your
generation to this generation, forget mine. That's the thing about
hip hop.

Speaker 1 (30:29):
But what about let me tell you something about the
hip hop When you're outside of the generation, you don't
know who the current.

Speaker 2 (30:35):
You don't know much about the current.

Speaker 4 (30:36):
Got teenage, so you know, I listened to everything that
they let me know what's popping.

Speaker 1 (30:41):
I got teenage, I got teenage and young adult kids.
So let me ask you the question. Since you've got
teenagers who are the young guys?

Speaker 2 (30:48):
Then he very good. That's it. It's like DDG Playboycarti
who else It's like two more. It's like two more.

Speaker 1 (31:04):
But I mean, but like Carti, Carty is the guy
for them.

Speaker 4 (31:10):
But after Carty it falls off. That's what I'm saying
right in my line.

Speaker 2 (31:17):
The writer is writer is thirty one.

Speaker 1 (31:23):
He's right there, and there ain't nobody in their thirties
gonna tell me.

Speaker 2 (31:28):
Let me tell you something.

Speaker 1 (31:28):
When I was growing up and I'm thirteen, fourteen, fifteen
listening to, can't nobody in their thirties tell me about
who I was listening to. You're in your thirties. We're
out of it. We can go back and here. The
difference is we had the only difference in what you're saying, Tom,
is we only had We only had two or three
places to get the music.

Speaker 2 (31:46):
So they told us exactly who the stars were.

Speaker 1 (31:48):
You can listen to it on the radio, you can
watch it on one on six and part you could
watch videos.

Speaker 2 (31:52):
And that was kind of controlled.

Speaker 1 (31:53):
Now what I've noticed for I just had Kenwood girls
basketball team in the morning show with us, said what
song do y'all get hyped to when y'all go and
they said six to seven. I didn't know who six
seven was, but I was like, okay, that's who they
listened to. Let me see who six seven is. Six
seven was this dope British drill rap that I had

(32:14):
never heard before. That was dope. But guess what that
came out of a sixteen year old mouth. They know
who they listening to. They sixteen, And I think we
got to stop discrediting their their artists as if they're
not making hits just because we ain't heard it and
it's not on mainstream radio, because they don't listen to
the they don't necessarily listen to Maine.

Speaker 2 (32:34):
That's not how they received their music.

Speaker 1 (32:36):
They received their music from the internet, so that stuff
could have millions and millions of streams and we never
hear it, Zach, And it's not.

Speaker 2 (32:44):
On the radio.

Speaker 4 (32:45):
Don't mean it exact, Zach. Regardless of what you're saying,
you always try to do that. But I'm talking about stars, dog,
Like when your era, your era is stars.

Speaker 2 (32:57):
It's people out here that gain it makes them, not
a start out. Let me finish.

Speaker 4 (33:00):
They got a they got mills and millions of streams
and cannot sell out shit, but small arenas not even
arenascise me small rooms. That's what I mean. We're doing
your era that we're just sticking your air up. You
had a lots of stars. It would be impossible during

(33:20):
your era rap to say all right, man, this old
EPMB is gonna come out with a new album.

Speaker 2 (33:26):
Everybody's been like, why it's too much hot.

Speaker 1 (33:29):
They wouldn't even have tried it because it was too
much hot shit out.

Speaker 2 (33:34):
No, they didn't have a No, it's a difference.

Speaker 1 (33:36):
They didn't have a platform to actually put it out
on because guess what you had to put your album
during that era.

Speaker 2 (33:41):
You had to put it out through labels.

Speaker 1 (33:42):
And the labels was not gonna give PMD a chance
when they putting out fifty cent and eminem now so
exactly Dip exactly now. No, But now the record labels
aren't the same. You can put music out on your own.

Speaker 4 (33:56):
So now I'm talking about Star Choir. I'm not saying
it is no, I'm saying Will Smith does not.

Speaker 1 (34:00):
Have to wait to get green lit by a record
company like they used to to get an album out.

Speaker 2 (34:06):
He could just literally go out and do interviews.

Speaker 4 (34:08):
Because he's smith, he can carve his and we still
don't know who's listening to His mother said, we don't.

Speaker 2 (34:14):
We can still he can put it out all day
and we don't know.

Speaker 1 (34:16):
We can't in a space where there's not a lot
of stars anymore. Yes, I'm not saying it's not good
music out. I'm not saying that, But I'm talking about
the level of stardom, the level of big records.

Speaker 2 (34:31):
Bro.

Speaker 1 (34:31):
You even brought up Lean with It, Rock with It,
you can white Tea, you could bring up anything. Let
me ask you this. It's Golorilla a big star. Yes,
it's a lot of a big star. Yes, it's Playboy
Cardi a big star. Yes, it's Travis Scott a big star. Yes,
it's Rod Wave a big star.

Speaker 2 (34:47):
Yes. Do I need to keep going? That's five? Do
I need to keep going? Are people selling out stadiums?
That's five? Do I need to keep going? These are
new artists selling out stadium five way sell out.

Speaker 3 (35:02):
Kids singing, But not all fact that you just named
off that list. I'm not gonna let you do that.
I think the issue with is, and I say this
every time we have this argument, is that it's a
quality of a quantity type of thing. So now in
this generation, everybody's a rapper and everybody has the same
tools to push out their music, whereas when in our era,
like you guys have mentioned, there was not enough space,

(35:24):
so you only the cream rose to the top and
the cream lasted. So like to your point tone, yes,
in our era it was big superstars and y'all generation
was listening to him as well as our generation. We
all loved Ja Ru and we can be honest about
don't lie.

Speaker 2 (35:40):
We all loved State College.

Speaker 3 (35:54):
We'll go ahead, so you said thirteen fourteen, we did.

Speaker 2 (35:58):
We listened.

Speaker 3 (35:59):
We loved fifty cent and our parents love fifty cents.
But like you, like we've always said, in that era,
there was no room for all this mass that we have. Now,
it's so many rappers out right now that are trash
that it makes it very hard for the superstars to
rise because they got to fight through all the trash.
Whereas back in the day you could own the cream

(36:20):
rows that label only invested in five and numb. Five
is gonna get a feel a run in that run
because it was so powerful how the structure was. They're
still touring.

Speaker 4 (36:30):
Today, but I'm even saying underneath the five, I'm talking
about the big five, the big five you have in
most time. Let's just leave that number five right, But
you had more underneath the five that was making that
made a huge impact, like you just had.

Speaker 3 (36:50):
It was just you didn't even get a look if
you weren't good. You didn't even get a look if
you weren't Now, if you could finesse and pay for
some streams and pay for and crease your social media
numbers like people do, you will get a look. You
will get an opportunity off some fake ass numbers. Now,
back then, we didn't have the technology to do that.
It was real people going putting your shoes on, putting

(37:11):
your boots on the ground, going to the record store,
going to Best Buy to buy CD. Okay, you had
to put your boots on and go get the go
by the album, the full album, or you was buying
a single. Now everybody can put something on the internet,
pay for a bot to increase state numbers, and look,
I'm a superstar, I'm the best thing you got when
really you're trash.

Speaker 2 (37:30):
That's the difference.

Speaker 1 (37:31):
It's certain, but it's certain artists now that are doing it,
and they don't necessarily have the they don't have. They
don't need the radio support anymore. They don't need the
interview support no more. There's just superstars. I ain't seen
rod Wave do an interview or nothing, and he sells.
I saw him sell out to you. I was there
at the United States and watched him sell that mug
out and cry wrong.

Speaker 4 (37:54):
Rod Wave when he started, when he started, was in
everybody's face. He did his media runs, BT Awards. Definitely
Rod Wave was out in a moving around memorable waveview.
It's not about a memorable rod Wave interviews, but everybody was.
He interviews before ton You know what I'm saying, he

(38:15):
doesn't need them. He can literally go to the United
Center and get sell out now.

Speaker 1 (38:19):
And now what I'm saying Rod Wave is a perfect
example of a person that went boots on the ground.

Speaker 2 (38:24):
He started, he started grinding.

Speaker 4 (38:27):
Grinding, grinding, grinding, grinding, and now his fan base is
so ridiculous he doesn't have to do it anymore. But
you just acted like he started making music in his
basement and says, you know what, everybody just started liking me,
and now I can no, no, no, no.

Speaker 1 (38:43):
Wave didn't move in the goal post. The goal post
is about stars. Now, So what we were talking about
current stars?

Speaker 2 (38:49):
Who are you?

Speaker 1 (38:51):
Said that your point was Will Smith feels comfortable because
they ain't no big stars, And I'm like, no, that's
not They are still there.

Speaker 2 (39:00):
They're still there. If NBA Young Boy wasn't locked up, NBA.

Speaker 1 (39:03):
Young Boy was one of the biggest rappers in the
world without much radio or any like it just they
just don't need it.

Speaker 2 (39:10):
They don't need it anymore.

Speaker 1 (39:11):
And what I'm trying to tell you, I didn't even
know about this group called six seven.

Speaker 2 (39:15):
I knew nothing.

Speaker 1 (39:16):
About, never heard a record, and I asked them and
they said it in unison. I watched them be like
six seven. I'm like, no, they're stars. And you can't
tell them girls that them people ain't stars. I'm not
gonna say they're not just because you don't think they are.
I just think not the numbers say that they're not stars.
You've never heard of They can't say it, can't They're
not going on to you this same five, But how

(39:37):
many of that do you know? They're not selling? How
do you know that?

Speaker 2 (39:40):
And if you've never heard of them, I'm just asking
that radio and you've never heard of. Radio is not
the radio. You're not controlling the world. No more.

Speaker 3 (39:53):
Hold on, hold on, it's not yourself. Don't get to
radio because people radio. I don't give a damn how
you sit around and think of your man and numbers.
When you get on this radio, it's a different look.
It's a different type of gas behind whatever.

Speaker 2 (40:11):
Don't.

Speaker 1 (40:11):
Radio is not creating that tripping. Radio is not creating stars.

Speaker 2 (40:16):
Given stars platforms.

Speaker 1 (40:17):
Absolutely, if you're a star and you get on the radio, don't.

Speaker 4 (40:22):
How do you say radio is not creating stars. What
radio does is what it's always done. It's taking you
from your niche fan base to to the world, to
the grandma's to the That's how you become a star.
That's the difference between being a star when your mama, No,
when you get your sixteen year old know the song,

(40:42):
your mama know the song, and the grandma and a
grandma know the song. That's the difference. That's the difference
between a hit. That's the difference between a megastar. That
is the difference being able to sell out the House
of Blues versus for United Center.

Speaker 1 (40:57):
Come on, that's the Concord Music Hall verse, the verse,
the Chicago. Got to be a star for it to work,
that's my point. But you're a star for it to work.
Do you know how many times we have No, I'm
not you know how many times we have played on
the verge artists who are on the verge on every
radio station, every hour on the hour in this country,

(41:19):
and they still and they and they song flop afterwards
after we're done. And you know why, Yeah, because the
song wasn't there, the artist wasn't there. They don't have
nothing else to connect them to, and they and they
go by the wayside.

Speaker 2 (41:31):
But on the.

Speaker 3 (41:32):
Verge, he reaching go let them.

Speaker 2 (41:34):
That's not on. That's not reaching.

Speaker 1 (41:35):
If you if you playing every hour on the hour
on every major radio station.

Speaker 2 (41:39):
And they didn't work. But I know, I mean that happens.

Speaker 4 (41:44):
Maybe maybe I'll see all the since we were doing
on the verge on the verse, I've maybe seen that.

Speaker 2 (41:49):
Flop off maybe twice, maybe twice.

Speaker 4 (41:52):
Victoria Money is on the verge artist period Money longers
are on the verge artisan they were already the song,
nobody was talking, nobody music, The music was good, attractive

(42:13):
was good.

Speaker 1 (42:14):
We knew she had a good song. The record it went,
that's the difference between the star star the.

Speaker 3 (42:21):
Recording is okay. On the verse, artist didn't work, you
have because the song wasn't that good. But but the
magic is when you get an artist. When you get
a star and you get a hit record and you
put it on radio, you're out of here. You're head. Yes,
there's no coming back.

Speaker 2 (42:37):
But you got to be a star.

Speaker 3 (42:38):
Yes you have to be a star. But that's what
it's a It's a star on Stony Island that ain't
got no platform. It's a star down the hallway that
ain't got no platform. Once you get on the platform
and get the you gotta have all things. I appreciate this
all the time. You have to have you have to
have the talent, and you gotta have the platform. When

(43:00):
it comes together, you out of here. That's when the
real stars arise. A lot of people got platforms and
no talent exactly. A lot of talented people have no platforms,
no reach exactly.

Speaker 1 (43:09):
And there's a lot of stars who are not being
played on the radio, which is my point, and they're
still stars.

Speaker 3 (43:15):
But that doesn't take the power out of what radio.

Speaker 2 (43:18):
It's not even about radio. I do radio. I don't.
I'm not here you on radio. I'm not here it
on radio.

Speaker 1 (43:23):
What I'm trying to say is just because somebody is
not played on the radio does not mean they're not
a star. And just because Will Smith decided to put
out an album don't mean that people that the people
of this generation who are making good music aren't stars.

Speaker 2 (43:37):
Who said that exactly don't get it.

Speaker 3 (43:40):
He said, you said Will Smith is comfortable because we
ain't got no stars. Now I said that's not I.

Speaker 4 (43:46):
Said he's comfortable because there's not a lot.

Speaker 2 (43:50):
There's space for him. There's space in space.

Speaker 4 (43:54):
Because I can't I can't think of an older rapper
during my era.

Speaker 2 (43:59):
I can't think of Coumo D trying to bring his ass.

Speaker 1 (44:02):
Back with Pock, Big jay Z, Ludacris, Eminem, Doctor Dre
Sloop n W. CuMo D shut his ass down because
it was no room for him, because it was like,
it's nothing but.

Speaker 2 (44:18):
He because it wasn't no internet prob to put it on.

Speaker 1 (44:20):
If he had an internet, he would have had something out.
If he had MI saw everybody else put out, he
would have put one out. Youbot to get why five
so we get the lady.

Speaker 2 (44:38):
CuMo D ain't in now after die and that's wrong.
That's right, because you better not. That's wrong. That's wrong.
Comedy comedy too.

Speaker 1 (44:53):
But what I'm trying to say is there was not
platforms to put The reason Will Smith can see that
is because that is the world we live in now,
right you can do your own thing and put it out, Zach,
right now.

Speaker 2 (45:04):
You'll get hurt right now, you're a star like Will Smith.

Speaker 4 (45:07):
What I'm saying is this the reason that the women
are dominating. There is a one singular reason why the
women are dominating. Not because it's they turn, not because
of none of that. It's because they have looked at
whoever's behind them or just maybe them. As artist said,
you know what, all of you dudes are over here

(45:27):
trying to sound like everybody else. We gonna go back
and have original sound. Lotto sounds nothing like Glorilla. Glorilla
sounds nothing like Sexy Red. Sexy Red sounds nothing like
Cardi B. Cardi B sounds nothing like Doci. They all

(45:48):
have these individual sounds which have made them in superstars.

Speaker 2 (45:53):
So the thing what it.

Speaker 4 (45:55):
Is is all of the dudes, and I'm not lie,
put your ears to the guy. Damn new music they
all sound like fucking Playboy, CARDI, what are you talking about?

Speaker 2 (46:05):
What I'm saying is this Travis Scott.

Speaker 1 (46:07):
You literally heard people use Travis Scott's ad lift.

Speaker 2 (46:11):
It's crazy.

Speaker 1 (46:12):
Guess what, where's what we're not gonna do? It's not
what we're not gonna do.

Speaker 2 (46:16):
There's a exactly I got a deal. Here's my thing.

Speaker 1 (46:20):
This sounds exactly likewise it is a dude that sounds
exactly like future.

Speaker 2 (46:27):
They all running it. What's my man's name?

Speaker 1 (46:29):
They running Designer, designer, play The designer said standard everybody
face and said, I don't sound like future. Women's women's
seal rabbit. Women's success. Let me tell you something. Women's
success in hip hop has nothing to do with men.

Speaker 2 (46:46):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (46:47):
It's just like, oh, because the men are sounding like
no now, the women are making now, the.

Speaker 2 (46:51):
Women can ride. Women women an artistry.

Speaker 1 (46:56):
The women's sound is working, and it's their boss because
they're making good music.

Speaker 2 (47:01):
Simple as that are making music that sounds like each.

Speaker 1 (47:05):
Other, even if the guys are. It's guys making good
music too.

Speaker 2 (47:09):
And guess what sound like anybody else?

Speaker 4 (47:12):
I'm not saying Broadway does sound like anybody else.

Speaker 2 (47:15):
I don't even know what we're talking about here. I
just know.

Speaker 4 (47:17):
Look, all I'm saying is there are stars today.

Speaker 2 (47:20):
That was my whole point. And you're naming stars, so
you actually were. So do you think that? Don't know
what you think?

Speaker 4 (47:26):
There's more stars today in hip hop than it was
in your era, that's the question.

Speaker 2 (47:32):
No, No, Zach, you're losing. So what I cannot do.

Speaker 1 (47:36):
I cannot compare today to fifteen years fifteen.

Speaker 2 (47:42):
Years of artist.

Speaker 3 (47:43):
It's so many artists that was out during my day.

Speaker 1 (47:46):
Wait a minute, you just said what you just said
exactly what I've been trying to prove the entire time.
We're just not even gonna talk about my era. We're
talking about your era.

Speaker 2 (47:57):
Can we talk? I'm talking to give me something new,
being able to get.

Speaker 4 (48:01):
On streams and everything because Will Smith he has it,
like you said, everybody, anybody, everybody.

Speaker 2 (48:09):
But people.

Speaker 1 (48:10):
Will Smith can calve his way into these situations and
be and be. These aurys gonna be valid. But it's
just not a lot of stars in there.

Speaker 2 (48:21):
It was the point. It was. It was when Nelly went.

Speaker 3 (48:24):
Got definition of stars different?

Speaker 2 (48:26):
Right.

Speaker 3 (48:26):
Maybe he think a star is streaming numbers and money
and your definition is kind of what my definition is
is my stars had music, then they got in the fashion.
They was on the cover of them, they was on
the Pepsi commercials, they was on the TV shows, they
was on the sitcom they got sitcoms made behind them.
They are and they're still popping today. That's the difference.

(48:47):
I think that that's what that's If that's what you're referencing,
then no, it's not the same at all, because guess
the times are different.

Speaker 2 (48:57):
It's not because there's less stars.

Speaker 1 (48:59):
It's just we don't have to go through all those
these people, the people that we're talking about, the people
that we grew up on, they were molded, they had
artists development, they went through all these stages to become stars,
and then when they became stars, they moved on the acting.

Speaker 2 (49:17):
They did movies.

Speaker 1 (49:18):
Because they were all still and pushed by Hollywood, and
that was a different thing.

Speaker 2 (49:22):
Now guys are independent.

Speaker 1 (49:25):
So what I'm saying is I'm talking about from a
music From from a music standpoint, there are artists that
the kids listen to that we don't know about that
are still making good music. And I'm not gonna show
on them just because I don't know them because I'm
not listening to them.

Speaker 2 (49:41):
I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (49:42):
And I can't just sit there and say, oh, ain't
no stars now, because when I had stars, we had
a different time. We didn't have the Internet where everybody
could get on and it be all this fluff and
you gotta find out. We didn't have that.

Speaker 2 (49:55):
We listened to. Everybody in the country is watching one show.

Speaker 3 (49:58):
Of course it's.

Speaker 2 (49:59):
Stars, Zach Like. The thing what I'm saying is I'm
not apart.

Speaker 4 (50:04):
I'm not saying that that there's there's not good music,
but as far as the star.

Speaker 2 (50:09):
And they're great and.

Speaker 4 (50:14):
People you just what all I'm saying is this, Yes,
there's kids that listen to you. We all have our
when we were growing up, had our niche guy. And
I'm saying, but I said that the amount of stars
that they are in hip hop today and it and
and I and I'm going.

Speaker 1 (50:29):
To say because of the music. Music makes you a star,
Bilgi takes you.

Speaker 4 (50:33):
Out of takes you out of sixteen year old, eighteen
year old high school popping, and it takes you to
your mama liking it, your grandma liking it. The white
dude that don't know nothing about hip hop. He hear it,
he like it. That's that's what I'm saying. That's what
I'm saying. There are people, Zach, and that's what that's

(50:53):
where there's this weird like I don't know, it's this
weird space and hip hop about star good music and
you don't know if somebody finest the numbers and not,
because bro, it is people out here with twenty million streams,
hundreds of thousands of files on Instagram and can walk

(51:15):
through and nobody know who they are and walk through festivals,
walk through and everybody, oh, that's dude, or that's them,
or all check it out. That's such and such and
I and when I when I say the differ between
a star, it was washing it at one music fest.

Speaker 2 (51:35):
When certain people.

Speaker 4 (51:37):
Come off that stage, they like, they can't people, they
got to have security around them. There's people with millions
of streams that cannot sell out the United Center.

Speaker 2 (51:46):
That makes no sense. That's something that's a disconnect somebody.
There's a people. There's a disconnecting.

Speaker 1 (51:52):
A person who's got a million streams, seven hundred followers
on Instagram, a million on TikTok, and they could go
and go on the and can walk around with no
security because they're non stars.

Speaker 2 (52:05):
They Oh, let's do they popular?

Speaker 1 (52:08):
That's a difference the songs the Internet has allowed. The
Internet has allowed more people to become popular. Those are
not the people that I'm considering stars. Okay, I'm talking
of saying that this this generation has stars.

Speaker 3 (52:21):
I think we just have to see how it turns out,
honestly before we can truly judge. Because right now, yes,
NBA Young Boy is a star. But his fans grow
up though, are they still gonna be listening to NBA
Young Boy kind of like when we grew up, we
still listen to the You know what I'm saying, that's
the difference.

Speaker 2 (52:36):
I think so too.

Speaker 3 (52:39):
I'm just saying that will be the test of That
will be the only way to tell if they have
the same type of star quality that our stars had. Like,
are we still reference and go back to those hit
records and those still ring off in the club like
they just came out. Those are hit records. Those are superstars.
We will have to just let time tell on if
they stick around and if they can remain relevant, because
once they fans grow up.

Speaker 2 (53:01):
That's suing to it.

Speaker 4 (53:02):
I want to let you know. And this is again
another statement to where we are in music. I wouldn't
let you know.

Speaker 2 (53:09):
Dog.

Speaker 4 (53:10):
If they had had an old school R and B
part where they was playing Luther Vandroz to Anita Babe
Baker and Peebo Bryson and a bunch and I'm in
my twenties, in my thirties, I would have lost my
goddamn mind. I'd have been like, it's no way I'm
staying here. This is an old people bunch. I'm getting

(53:30):
the hell out of here now. Think about it. You
got people that are in that in their twenties, in
their thirties listening to how many R and B parties
out of the ore.

Speaker 2 (53:41):
That's the biggest thing. Old school arm br these sing along.

Speaker 3 (53:45):
Sing Keisha Cole like it just came out like they
they loved that record.

Speaker 4 (53:49):
Like singing the Golden R and B's Like, it's so.

Speaker 2 (53:56):
What that speaks to?

Speaker 4 (53:58):
What that when I'm about to get to my point,
What it speaks to is the where were at musically
at this time.

Speaker 2 (54:03):
That's what it speaks to. If you are able to steal.

Speaker 1 (54:07):
If I play beat it right now for my son,
he's gonna go crazy. He's gonna go crazy. I saying
beat it, and I wasn't born came out just asking
did that lessen the stars of my generation? Just because
I'll go back and listen to H.

Speaker 2 (54:22):
Luther.

Speaker 4 (54:23):
I'll tell you what I grew up on that I
got old. No such thing as R and B parties
back when?

Speaker 2 (54:29):
When? When?

Speaker 4 (54:30):
Back when you about the R.

Speaker 2 (54:33):
And B parties.

Speaker 1 (54:34):
Ain't no sixteen year olds at that R and B party?
And if it was, you need to get out of that. No,
not no, But I'm saying early we're not talking. We're
talking about.

Speaker 2 (54:43):
Any sixteen year old. If high schoolers, that's the generation.

Speaker 1 (54:46):
I'm talking about, you high school, If high school is
pull it up to your.

Speaker 3 (54:56):
Will tell guys, only time will be able to tell
if tone is right.

Speaker 1 (55:00):
But R and B that's a different genre. See now,
if you going R and B, R and B completely died,
excuse me. R and B died with the new like
they don't have any R and B male groups like
we had man like at all. Those completely just went
off the face of the groups that But R.

Speaker 3 (55:16):
And B itself as a genre is not dead.

Speaker 2 (55:18):
Well, the groups died, the male groups that we grew
up on.

Speaker 1 (55:22):
The Judas se Jodases, the Drew Hills, the Jagged Edge,
the one twelve Like that was all music that we
were watching on one O six in part we had
matching outfits. We knew the words, the B two k's,
that's right, the en Syncs, the Backstreet Boys. They don't exist. Yes,
so of course people gonna go back and listen to.

Speaker 2 (55:43):
That because it doesn't exist.

Speaker 1 (55:45):
But all this I know, y'all. Every time we get
on music, y'all, are we always argue?

Speaker 2 (55:50):
God?

Speaker 4 (55:51):
Uh, well, last one before we get out of here,
could you talk to someone that your homie or your
girl may have messed around with or but it didn't
go anywhere? So basically, could you go back and talk
to somebody your boy was like, oh, your girls?

Speaker 2 (56:05):
Like, yeah, I used to talk to toe, but you know,
we just kind of went out on a couple of
dates and then that was it.

Speaker 3 (56:11):
No. I mean, but I understand people that do now
because I used to be completely against this at all calls.
But some of your friends is just holes And like, girl,
you didn't been with every man in this zip? Hope,
what do you want me to do? You know what
I'm saying? Like you'd have been with every man in
the six oh six oh one? What do you want
me to do?

Speaker 2 (56:31):
So?

Speaker 3 (56:32):
Yeah, yeah, I'm sorry you went on to date with him.
I'm sure you did. Now he with me, you know
what I'm saying, Like, I know, so I don't. I've
never done it and I will never intentionally do it.
But we all know somebody that if they're like, can
you imagine being a man in Chicago and you friends
were tone, You're gonna be like, well, what.

Speaker 2 (56:50):
The hell you want me to do?

Speaker 3 (56:51):
You can't even go to Carbondale to find no good
a woman. You know what I'm saying. That town ain't
had you got to them. You can't go to Indiana.
You gotta go to Wisconsin, you damn that. Gotta go
to the East coast. He was over there for a
little bit. When you feel in the park and so
it's like, what.

Speaker 2 (57:11):
Do you do. You have a friend and you know
the West coast? Oh my bad?

Speaker 3 (57:16):
Okay, so maybe you're safe on the East coast, but
when you have a friend that has been because we
all know somebody, and it be like who I am
somebody that somebody you to somebody that Yeah, so it's like,
what do you want me to do so. I understand
people who if it didn't work out, But if you
if your friends in a full blown relationship with somebody,
come on, bro, you can find somebody else. Yeah, you

(57:38):
can find somebody else.

Speaker 2 (57:41):
It's time to move. That's the problem. You gotta pack
your house up. You gotta move. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (57:46):
Sometimes, if I was just running into the same thing
where I keep running in the women that my friends
will mess with, is I need to just keep I
need to go other places, and I'm obviously in the
same spots where my friends are.

Speaker 2 (57:58):
I can't do it.

Speaker 1 (57:59):
I can't do if my If you, if you dated her,
I'm cool.

Speaker 3 (58:04):
You ain't never smashed one of your homies chicks.

Speaker 2 (58:07):
Mm hmm mm hmm, not like they you're talking about,
like that girl. I believe he's never.

Speaker 4 (58:16):
I believe never smashed any of his homies like that
they were going together.

Speaker 2 (58:22):
I believe Zat and he and they didn't smash.

Speaker 3 (58:27):
That's what I mean.

Speaker 2 (58:28):
Zach's definitely. Let me ask you this, I would never
do it without their blessing. Though.

Speaker 3 (58:33):
You're gonna ask.

Speaker 2 (58:36):
How that? How did that text go? How does that?
Please explain?

Speaker 1 (58:40):
Hey, your blessing is like this. It's like this, Tom, huh,
what's up with uh? Mu's just throw a name out there,
what's up with uh?

Speaker 2 (58:50):
Jasmine? Nothing, y'all, y'all still messing? Was that your girl?

Speaker 1 (58:56):
Girl?

Speaker 2 (58:57):
Nah? We just kind of went out a couple of times,
all right, cool? Yeah, she had hit me. So I
just want to know if it was, like, you know.

Speaker 1 (59:05):
You just kind of had that conversation, like, you know,
is that that's somebody you really care about?

Speaker 2 (59:09):
I like the Zach, don't do it, Okay, that's all
I need to.

Speaker 3 (59:13):
I ain't gonna I feel like they wouldn't say that,
but they'll start trying to throw a little other salt
on her name.

Speaker 1 (59:17):
So you wouldn't you know, I say, if you say
I liked her, I would I would say that no, no.

Speaker 4 (59:23):
No, no, no that You got to be very surprised guys,
real dudes, especially like if you're talking your homie like
I'm talking to Zach, like I'm you know, maybe not
to another person. You probably kind of got a man
like it's like a dude that is associated or something.

Speaker 2 (59:37):
You gotta be like, yeah, you know what I mean.
You're not gonna tell, but your homie your home.

Speaker 4 (59:44):
You're gonna say a ge like, yeah, that'll be kind
of weird because me and her, you know, I liked
her a little bit and just didn't go Maybe it
didn't go right because of you. And you're like, if
I see you, it's gonna it'll be weird. And your
boy gona your boy probably gonna still hit her.

Speaker 2 (59:59):
But that's but you keep it sitting.

Speaker 1 (01:00:05):
But watch you know, you know the guys that your
your homies really like. You know what I'm saying, I
stay away from that.

Speaker 2 (01:00:11):
I don't.

Speaker 1 (01:00:11):
I'm not fena mess with you. If that's one of
your girls, that I'm cool. But you can't have too
many because you got some friends.

Speaker 3 (01:00:18):
That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (01:00:19):
Everybody they was serious with, come on, man, yeah bro,
we did you hit?

Speaker 2 (01:00:24):
That's the first thing I'm asked. Oh yeah, you gotta
ask that did you hit?

Speaker 1 (01:00:27):
If you didn't hit, you have no claims, thank you.
You can't even if you went out on the date.
That you can't say and you go up.

Speaker 3 (01:00:35):
In fourth grade, he had tried that's our girls, because
you know back right and fourth grade he had tried
to talk to me, but I wasn't even in it like, bitch,
I don't care, get it today and how many times
you yeah, you got it?

Speaker 2 (01:00:50):
If it was once in night life? In night life.

Speaker 4 (01:00:53):
I want to let you know, all of these rules
don't apply. What you mean, like every day that y'all said,
like all of that, that's no considering.

Speaker 2 (01:01:00):
Nobody care. Nobody cares. They can shake your hand, shake it?
What up?

Speaker 4 (01:01:05):
G what g and be like if they don't see
you with your girl a couple of times outside they
on a ass, they a d M.

Speaker 2 (01:01:14):
They owner like, yo, what's up? You go next thing?

Speaker 4 (01:01:16):
You know you're gonna see your girls sitting at the
at that promoter's table. It's a nasty or you cannot
have any feelings in that life because they are. It's
it's it's it's really the it's really kind of crazy.
It's like in a sense where everybody is looking at
everybody's backyard that they said, so if you I come in,

(01:01:38):
well I come in with Jasmine, and ain't nobody seeing jasmine?

Speaker 2 (01:01:42):
Everybody like who is that?

Speaker 4 (01:01:44):
And they just gonna wait, They gonna wait it out
to see if y'all make it or y'all don't make it.
At the moment you like if you if they see
Jasmine out two or three times without.

Speaker 1 (01:01:53):
You, oh us they own they couldn't even think about
her to they seen you with him.

Speaker 2 (01:02:00):
No, no, I'm telling you.

Speaker 4 (01:02:01):
Anytime whatever girl you are walking around with a you
show interesting, trust me, there's somebody at night life that
is waiting for you to break up with that girl
so they could go jump on them.

Speaker 2 (01:02:13):
And I don't understand that, Like, where does that come from?

Speaker 4 (01:02:15):
Like I don't know. I mean, dude, to shake your hands,
make money with you. They like they drank with you
and your girl, hung out with you and your girl,
But as soon as it's.

Speaker 2 (01:02:25):
Over with trust me, somebody on my ass.

Speaker 4 (01:02:30):
It's really sad nasty. I was first, I was too
sensitive for that. I was like, then I can't believe
and I don't want to like curse everybody up. I
was like, oh, this is just this is just how
y'all move.

Speaker 1 (01:02:43):
It's why you can't bring your girl outside. You're gonna
let her go outside by myself.

Speaker 4 (01:02:47):
I've had dudes tell me that they've been where I've been. Man,
she like both we like you ain't no toning.

Speaker 1 (01:02:54):
I was with her too word, Okay, why you tell
me that it's so weird.

Speaker 2 (01:02:59):
It's a weird. That's why you gotta import your chick. Bro,
tell zac that.

Speaker 4 (01:03:04):
Tell the truth. Come on, tell the truth, Zach. Go
on ahead say it now, the truth. Go ahead, Just
do what you do.

Speaker 2 (01:03:10):
Man.

Speaker 1 (01:03:11):
You gotta import your chick. You got an import. Bring
it in from where wherever? Not from here?

Speaker 2 (01:03:20):
Okay, you gotta.

Speaker 1 (01:03:22):
It might be a terrif on it, but you got
to import your chick because if you don't. Even if
you do, and they see it, that's gonna make it more.
Everybody's gonna want to get on it because they ain't
never seen it. You know what I'm saying. But you
gotta import and lock down nobody, nobody. So then if

(01:03:43):
it's you see any activity, you know it was on
your watch.

Speaker 2 (01:03:47):
Okay, it sounds like to me, you know it was.

Speaker 3 (01:03:49):
On your man.

Speaker 2 (01:03:50):
Look, put them on that plank, sex traffic or whatever
you want to called. You'll want no holes if you
are dating. Import your chick. Now.

Speaker 1 (01:04:02):
I don't know what she was doing out wherever she
was at. That ain't your business. They don't go after asking.
You don't know them, men, Yeah, okay, you don't know them.

Speaker 2 (01:04:11):
Why did they so.

Speaker 4 (01:04:12):
Many dudes from here get married like Zach got married
in Tennessee State at Ti Betty's Girl at Tennessee State.
Most dudes, especially when they leave here, they go to
college somewhere far away, they end up marrying a girl
from college because they don't have they.

Speaker 2 (01:04:27):
Know what she being.

Speaker 4 (01:04:29):
They know ain't it, ain't nothing they know when they
get back to the crib, everybody looking at this girl
like where you see her?

Speaker 2 (01:04:35):
That is? I know so many dudes.

Speaker 4 (01:04:38):
That were like, yo, bro, I love Chicago women. I
love them. I just man, I can't, I just can't
do it. I don't want to know what she been everything.

Speaker 1 (01:04:48):
I don't want to know because you out with and
everybody laughing, everybody looking at she giving hugs. I don't
want if I go out with you and you're giving hugs.

Speaker 4 (01:04:57):
Three of them, three three hugs, three good good promoter hugs,
like like.

Speaker 2 (01:05:08):
Why you know them? I'm gonna say the one is funny,
the real funny one is the best. I forgive you.

Speaker 4 (01:05:16):
You were like a baby meet me at why Bar.
I mean, how many is it you and your girls?
It's like you, I mean it's like four okay, cool, cool, cool,
cool all right, meet me there.

Speaker 2 (01:05:28):
And then you get that text like, hey, I'm already
in somewhere else. That means somebody else done got to her,
that got him in.

Speaker 4 (01:05:38):
But what it means is it's like you, like you
want to ask, it was crowded. How'd you get in?

Speaker 2 (01:05:43):
Oh? I call?

Speaker 4 (01:05:44):
I called little old, little omar got us in. Oh,
you call little oh, and he got y'all. That's why
you got to import Okay.

Speaker 1 (01:05:53):
Shout out, shout out to a little old. But a
little little old got your chicken. Now you got to figure, oh,
I ain't letting you got Now you're wondering because you
don't you know, you know the killers this outside. You
got to be okay with that. You gotta be okay
with that. And that's a dangerous game to day.

Speaker 2 (01:06:14):
Little oh, let your chicken. Yanks.

Speaker 1 (01:06:17):
Man, I'm telling you, fellas, don't go. Don't go local baby.
I don't know, and I don't have a.

Speaker 3 (01:06:22):
Lot of men, so if any of my friends end
up on one a man, it's a problem.

Speaker 2 (01:06:27):
I got a lot of men, So that did I see.
I just want to let you know I'm on your head.

Speaker 4 (01:06:36):
I tell you before we go, I tell us a
quick Little Old story shout out to.

Speaker 3 (01:06:41):
It's a real person.

Speaker 2 (01:06:42):
Yeah, it's a real person. I know it's that they
they're great people. Little Old it's me earlier night life.
Little Oh is way younger.

Speaker 1 (01:06:53):
If you like my daughter, bro, my daughter's age probably
about three years older than I think, somewhere around there.

Speaker 4 (01:06:58):
But Little Old like man, and I was like I'm outside.
I'm just you know, I'm out, and I'm like.

Speaker 1 (01:07:03):
Man, I'm like yo, I'm like, man, that girl's this
girl is on me right now. I said, I ain't
gonna talk to her cause, you know, I kind of
talked to I kind of talked to this other girl
she in here.

Speaker 4 (01:07:17):
Little Old took a drink, he said, tone. I said
what he said, Man, if you don't go talk to
that girl right now, talk to that girl. You trying
to be cool because this one over here, He was like,
you're gonna have to belie this rider shicking everybody.

Speaker 1 (01:07:34):
Tone.

Speaker 2 (01:07:35):
I was like, so, so what you doing? Go talk
to that girl? I was like, d I I.

Speaker 1 (01:07:43):
Said, this young dude that taught me to know he
didne taught me to no rule of night life.

Speaker 4 (01:07:49):
In one second. He just took a drink, he said,
he was so frustrated with me. You ever like see something,
I'm like trying to be cool.

Speaker 1 (01:07:55):
I say, man, I don't want to make her feeling
type of way, so I ain't gonna say nothing over it.

Speaker 2 (01:08:00):
He was like heartlessss. It was like everybody.

Speaker 4 (01:08:07):
I was like, Oh, the worst thing is you want
to hear in the club all at once is a girl.
She was trying to be cool with and not hurt
her feelings that everybody.

Speaker 2 (01:08:17):
So now you like, now you feel bad? You're like
all that night life interest. It's a nasty game. Shut
out a little. I've been at the whole club final thoughts.
Let's get out of here, my man. Hey y'all.

Speaker 3 (01:08:33):
That's all I want to say, is he Hey y'all.
I see y'all in them comments.

Speaker 2 (01:08:36):
I love y'all. Zach tired man. Y'all wore me out
this pot.

Speaker 3 (01:08:42):
Because you be trying to argue when you be wrong
and no final thoughts.

Speaker 2 (01:08:45):
You to calm down. The veins back in your head
and the veins back in my head. I'm tired, man,
you need a nap. Y'all wore me out. That's one.

Speaker 1 (01:08:52):
Took a lot of energy out of me trying to
devent these young I don't even listen to right.

Speaker 2 (01:09:00):
All right, y'all, we gotta here. Remember catch us tomorrow.

Speaker 1 (01:09:03):
We will be potting tomorrow and also the shade room
on Thursday. Welcome to it, boy, you got all these
pot days, potfam. With that being said, what more can
we say