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April 23, 2025 • 62 mins
Tone Kapone, KeKe, and Zach Boog talk Kanye's Wild Claims, Tyrese Wins Custody, 90's R&B Mount Rushmore & More!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
All right, welcome to or one more? Can I say? Podcast?
This episode righter two thirteen two one three?

Speaker 2 (00:07):
We are flying through these numbers. Let's get to it.
I wanted your whole song, capon, what's happening? What's having?
What's up with y'all? To be woo? All right? She
is a queen. That's right, you fuffy and fine.

Speaker 1 (00:21):
The first lady of the part at Marion's secret boot
is wet.

Speaker 2 (00:26):
It ain't a secret. Yeah, every morning and what boy?
Can I say? Group chats been popper it's his key
kid o Maria.

Speaker 3 (00:34):
I'm trying to heal, and Zach won't let me leave
the moment I need to heal.

Speaker 2 (00:39):
I'm mad. I'm mad too. I'm mad too. Damn it.

Speaker 4 (00:42):
The way that man was looking at you. He looked
at you like a buttter biscuit on us on.

Speaker 2 (00:47):
A Saturday with God, Zach, that picture you put in chat,
it's hilarious, hilarious. I believe that man is on it. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:00):
It's a body language, you know, when you're up on them,
you're looking at Yeah, the body language shows it all.
That's I'm taking you down, That's what it was.

Speaker 3 (01:08):
And I got this thing on my head job because
I got a photo shoot after this. I'm not I
don't just come outside looking crazy.

Speaker 2 (01:14):
I thought that was a new style. You see a
lot of girls.

Speaker 3 (01:17):
Yeah, you're laying your wig down, so you're going to
melt it when you get in your pictures. Yeah, a
lot of makeup on today. High help blended, Yeah, it
helped blended.

Speaker 2 (01:29):
Zach.

Speaker 1 (01:31):
Zach is going to open up a beauty salon. I
see that he loves. He loves women's beauty. Bro, you
know a lot about women's beauty.

Speaker 2 (01:40):
That's weird. I do. I like I like her. I
just I just want to know about it because I
want to know what I'm dealing with.

Speaker 4 (01:46):
And I like it when it looks nice, you know
what I'm saying, Like when it's all come together, like,
oh you look.

Speaker 1 (01:50):
Good s crazy, funny at the future owner of Zach
of Fun.

Speaker 2 (01:59):
Yeah, how doing what you getting? Get a bundle bust
down middle Park. I want you getting.

Speaker 3 (02:08):
Yeah, you gotta get what she was like my gay friend?

Speaker 1 (02:13):
What you.

Speaker 2 (02:19):
Have so much more together? But we would have so
much more fun if you was gay. Why does that
have to like?

Speaker 1 (02:25):
Man game?

Speaker 2 (02:26):
I don't have to like Cenis to be your free.

Speaker 5 (02:30):
Or what, because like we would just have so much
more to talk about together.

Speaker 2 (02:34):
It's okay. I don't know, y'all.

Speaker 3 (02:36):
Don't ever think like y'all, don't ever feel like sometimes
I wish Kiki was a man.

Speaker 1 (02:42):
Little brother, to be honest, to be honest, the stuff
that you say, you're like our.

Speaker 2 (02:47):
Little brother, like you like I can't believe my little
father brother.

Speaker 1 (02:52):
He's gonna say he's not wrong.

Speaker 2 (02:57):
What he's talking about. I wish she was gayest wild.
You never told me that is that is wild? You know,
I wish you was gay.

Speaker 1 (03:05):
No, no, no, no, no.

Speaker 2 (03:11):
No.

Speaker 1 (03:11):
Zach was in his single. He was at his single
like I'm healing phase. Oh that was the best. I
got to hear stories every day, every day. God bless you, zach.

Speaker 6 (03:25):
Am.

Speaker 2 (03:26):
It's over. It happened way back. There's a lot of
years ago. Thank you trying to clean it up. I
appreciate it. That was so long ago. Last week, tell
him another story? All right, all right, man, all right.

Speaker 1 (03:44):
Speaking of stories, the Shannon Sharp case, there's been so
many updates on this, and then Shannon Sharp actually released
a statement about it where he was he basically let
everybody know about the explicit messages that the lady was
sitting him.

Speaker 2 (03:58):
Did you guys check any this?

Speaker 3 (04:00):
Yes, what's the statement? I haven't heard Shannon's response. I
kind of hate that he even.

Speaker 4 (04:04):
Responded, Okay, well I'm gonna show you. Let me pull
it up real quick.

Speaker 5 (04:08):
Okay, because it got I heard he was dropping receipts.

Speaker 2 (04:12):
He dropped her receipts.

Speaker 4 (04:13):
Not only did he dropped receipts, he dropped it all
all right, I don't know, but basically said he knew it.

Speaker 2 (04:20):
Okay, I got all that. I ain't got all that.

Speaker 5 (04:22):
I'm about to do.

Speaker 2 (04:24):
But you need to see the Zach didn't study. He's
so funny. I'm trying to you should have seen this.

Speaker 4 (04:29):
What you really need to see here, m I can't
find it fast.

Speaker 2 (04:34):
Tell us what happened?

Speaker 1 (04:36):
Well anyway, she she was basically saying stuff like, hey,
put a dog collar on me and high sex with me,
choked me out, Uh come get this fat. Yeah, I
mean it's twenty five thousand the cheek. It's a lot.

Speaker 2 (04:51):
It was. It was a lot.

Speaker 4 (04:53):
I want him to put a dog collar around my
neck and tie me up and do bad things to me.

Speaker 1 (04:58):
Yeah, she was. She was freaky and uncle. She was
cashing out. This is what it looks like to me.

Speaker 2 (05:06):
So he was paying for it. It looked like he was.
She was super freaky, probably bad. She said, I know
you missed this juicy ass.

Speaker 4 (05:14):
Twenty five thousand for each cheek oh said she sent him.
He sent him fifty grand. She said, tie me up
like this and f me.

Speaker 2 (05:24):
Oh my god, that's that's how I do. And then
that's how they get them.

Speaker 1 (05:28):
And then the funny thing is sound this one actually
has his response.

Speaker 2 (05:33):
He said, like old man.

Speaker 1 (05:34):
He said, if I knew how to, I would, And then.

Speaker 4 (05:44):
She said, m that just got my pee wet. Tie
me up and do bad things to me. And then
he responded, couugh up. I want to release this because
because I have to show you that it's consensual.

Speaker 2 (05:59):
Yeah, I got to. He had to. She was.

Speaker 1 (06:02):
She was basically saying that he raped her, that abused her.

Speaker 2 (06:07):
It was.

Speaker 1 (06:07):
It was a lot of it was a lot of
accusations in there. So he had to show, like y'all know,
we was rocking with each other. And what it looks
like is once he stopped paying, he didn't want to
give her any more money.

Speaker 2 (06:19):
That's when things went left.

Speaker 4 (06:20):
March fourteenth, she allegedly wrote, I want to be abused, daddy,
and I want you to put a dog collar around
my neck and choke me while you me whoa she
was lying?

Speaker 2 (06:33):
She was she nasty. I like her. Uncle got to
stay away. I like her. I ain't got no money
for you, baby, You ain't get.

Speaker 1 (06:45):
Nothing, uncle shay. She got to stay away from from
from women. He just got to stay away. But he
was already that his chicks out do not. But this,
this is what it reads like when you see it.

Speaker 2 (06:58):
It's nasty.

Speaker 1 (06:59):
And because one thing we gonna has been, we're gonna
always respond to nasty.

Speaker 2 (07:03):
You can't like a lot of like you think, like
the flesh is weak.

Speaker 1 (07:07):
If a woman talks nasty to a man and she fine,
that's probably that's every man's kryptoit. We gotta run from it.
If you're trying to be faithful. If she find and
talk nasty.

Speaker 2 (07:18):
Oh you gotta run. What to do to you?

Speaker 1 (07:19):
You got to get up out of there, bro, because
you're gonna take it. You're like what you saying, like
what what you want? And that's how the money get exchanged.
Twenty five thousand cheek fifty thousand.

Speaker 2 (07:29):
It's crazy hit to have sex. That's what I'm saying.
Fifty bucks, that's crazy. I'm not doing that.

Speaker 1 (07:39):
She had to be bad, she was probably bad, and
Shae Shay got it, he got it, got it.

Speaker 2 (07:44):
Man.

Speaker 4 (07:45):
It's just crazy that all his sex capaides are coming out.
Remember he had Michelle, he had the Instagram live. Now
he's telling me what the uncle looking real freaky out.

Speaker 2 (07:55):
I don't want to know him like this. You don't
know what. I don't want to know him like this.
It's like that's Kiki single man have sex.

Speaker 3 (08:04):
I understand, but it's like it's like really finding your
uncle's nasty text.

Speaker 2 (08:09):
I don't want to read this.

Speaker 3 (08:10):
That's why I'm like, I'm so mad he had to
release this. I don't want to know him like that.
His voice and then mixed with the text.

Speaker 2 (08:17):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (08:18):
I think my favorite part is if I knew how,
I would, Yeah, tie.

Speaker 2 (08:26):
Me up, daddy, If I knew how, I would Yeah.

Speaker 1 (08:30):
But I mean it's just but it's also messed up
on a bunch of levels.

Speaker 2 (08:34):
Yes, nasty, but then you just.

Speaker 1 (08:36):
Look at it like like damn, but you gotta think,
how do you even how do you even date anymore. Oh,
you got a dated woman that got something to lose,
like Kiki, right, like, why.

Speaker 2 (08:51):
Are you date? Why are we paying? Like you couldn't
find nobody that wanted to just do this anyway.

Speaker 4 (08:57):
Okay, So here's what I think it was. I think
this was he was being sugar daddy to this shit.

Speaker 2 (09:01):
He wasn't.

Speaker 4 (09:02):
I don't think he was directly paying for each sexual accounter,
but I think he was taking care of her. So
when she said twenty five k's, she was just getting
some more money he was gonna send into it anyway.
You know what I'm saying, probably had been sent into her.
I think this was the This was not just one
year if now, they had years of equity built in.
So this was just his little young freak that he
was taking care of that went off the dp N.

Speaker 2 (09:23):
This is this is the LA way.

Speaker 3 (09:27):
You always lying on LA. So everybody in LA just
paid for everything.

Speaker 2 (09:31):
No, I'm not gonna say that.

Speaker 1 (09:33):
I'm just saying it happens a lot in LA place
like New York and Miami, even here in good old
Chicago in the Midwest.

Speaker 2 (09:40):
If you if you rich, and you an older dude.

Speaker 1 (09:45):
And you messing with a woman that's twenty some thirty something,
you paying, you gonna take care of her, because now
you know that's how you're gonna cut You can cut
through all of the other mess because a lot of
dudes ain't gonna do it.

Speaker 2 (09:58):
So you go like, all right, I'm rich. What's your rent? Okay? Cool?
What's your car payment? I got that.

Speaker 1 (10:04):
But you're gonna have access to her anytime you want.
That's what they're doing. That's just what they're doing. What
they're doing that a lot of places.

Speaker 5 (10:11):
Nobody asked me how much my rent is?

Speaker 2 (10:15):
Come? Boys, she said, shot, tie me up, daddy.

Speaker 1 (10:18):
Youse, you ain't talking freaking you gotta talk wowd no whatever.
Keiky said, Man, they wipe it up, saying.

Speaker 4 (10:29):
He's saying stuff to get off married. She says, these
biscuits rends, come get your plate. I'm cooking catfish tonight.

Speaker 2 (10:44):
He's like, marry her.

Speaker 1 (10:47):
I washed your clothes left over here?

Speaker 2 (10:51):
What you washed my clothes? He told me? My food
red live. I ain't going nowhere.

Speaker 5 (10:56):
I got I gotta go through these texts and learn it's.

Speaker 2 (11:00):
On paper your whole time. Yeah, okay, who time you
gonna pay these bills? I don't love them. Oh col Man,
that's so funny.

Speaker 1 (11:11):
Oh what's going on with yay Man? What's going on
with ya? That's all I'm gonna say. What's going on
with ya?

Speaker 2 (11:17):
Bro? That's your friend? How do we don't even know
how to talk about this no more?

Speaker 4 (11:22):
All I know is he said he was sucking somebody
d till they was fourteen, and it was his cousin
and they used to act out pouring together.

Speaker 2 (11:30):
That he saw freaky magazines and stuff. Very odd.

Speaker 4 (11:34):
That's that's sick, man. I don't know what you got
going on.

Speaker 1 (11:38):
I know the cousins like damn, because everybody the family, like,
can you imagine because this dude, the cousin was at
one point trying to prove to everybody in the hood
that he was his cousin, but nobody believed.

Speaker 2 (11:51):
It's like ky ain my good, they know it ain't man, God,
he my cousin.

Speaker 4 (11:56):
He was telling everybody Kanye was his cousin because he
was turned up.

Speaker 2 (12:00):
Now you come out with this, that's your cousin. Oh
you the cousin. Now he don't want to be Kanye
cut I wasn't that cuz, bro.

Speaker 1 (12:12):
But then is another thing like Kanye kids is somewhere
minding their business.

Speaker 2 (12:17):
I'm not going to school after my dad.

Speaker 1 (12:19):
I can't you gonna get ridiculed, you know what I mean,
It's gonna be a lot. Kim kardash was somewhere, uh, chilling, relaxing,
doing what rich women do, and she got to read
this about her ex husband, Like for what, bro, Like,
at some point this is the thing.

Speaker 2 (12:36):
I'm not mad that you want to say. O.

Speaker 1 (12:38):
If you want to come out and do all of that,
I had no nothing, go ahead, bro, But at some point, man,
the stuff that he's doing, you gotta think about your family.

Speaker 2 (12:48):
This is super selfish. Yep.

Speaker 1 (12:50):
This is more like it's so crazy to me that,
like the people from me Yay camp will be like, man,
you we here what you be saying something about Kanye?
You was damn man, you from the crib, you this,
that and the other. And I ain't gonna lie.

Speaker 2 (13:06):
Man. I don't say this often.

Speaker 1 (13:08):
I don't really get into it often about it, but man,
I'm tired of for real, I'm tired of Chicago artists
coming up to me, the big the big ones that's
talking about what I'm saying on the podcast.

Speaker 2 (13:21):
Bro.

Speaker 1 (13:21):
When y'all go to New York, y'all go to y'all
talk to everybody, but anybody from the crib. So why you,
I mean, like, why you even care what I'm saying
because you obviously don't care about the platform I'm talking about.
I'm on you don't you don't you you invited you
invited academics to do a shout out to academics. She's

(13:41):
a big brand. But dag, you ain't turning nobody up
from the crib. You talking to a dude from New
York or Jersey?

Speaker 2 (13:48):
Where are you from?

Speaker 1 (13:50):
You go everybody go, you gonna run to you, go
run in New York and go talk to people. You
run to LA and talk to people. And you from
the goddamn South Side of Chicago, and you won't even
if you want to give the bigger platforms love, you
will forget about us and never do nothing. So don't
talk to me about what I'm saying because you don't
care about it anyway.

Speaker 2 (14:08):
Yep, damn.

Speaker 4 (14:09):
And then to come over here and say to question
you like on what you're saying about artists, but you not.
And I noticed probably people in his entourage or whatever,
but you're not gonna question him on what he's saying.
You talking to the wrong person. I'm the responder to
the BS. You need all of your energy needs to
be directed on him saying all this crazy stuff, not
how I respond to it.

Speaker 2 (14:31):
Like he don't want saying wild stuff about other people's children.

Speaker 4 (14:34):
He don't want talking about his cousin doing all types
of wild stuff.

Speaker 2 (14:38):
This is on. You know what I'm saying. You're gonna
talk to talking about it? You shouldn't. You shouldn't reply
like that. Talk to ya why? I mean, why you
care about a platform that you don't care about? Period?

Speaker 1 (14:49):
That's all? Like I like, why y'all care about what
I'm saying? Y'all obviously what my voice don't mean nothing
to you.

Speaker 3 (14:55):
You're not gonna keep treating me like a first baby mama, period. Okay,
you want to run back over here when it gets
hot and want me to hold you down and hang
you back. No, I'm going back over there with your
second baby mama, who you was all out public with
and posting on Instagram and say spending money on or
be with her.

Speaker 2 (15:10):
You know how I feel about it.

Speaker 3 (15:12):
I have an allegiance to my audience. I'm the only
people that pay my bills. Everybody else. I don't have
no allegiance to you. I'm just speaking what's already out there.
I'm not digging in nobody's personal life. I'm not in
Sometimes I do investigate, but like you know what I'm saying,
I don't come with ill intentions. You put it out there,
I'm gonna speak on it just like every other platform.
So to think that I owe you something is insane.

(15:32):
And when it comes to Kanye, I hate this for him.
But now it's to the point where we don't even care,
which is what he wants.

Speaker 2 (15:39):
He wants the attention.

Speaker 3 (15:40):
Back in the day, if ten years ago if he
said this, the whole city of Chicago would have been
shut down.

Speaker 2 (15:45):
Yep.

Speaker 3 (15:45):
We would have had the mayor given a speech about
you know, and we need to bring brother Yay home
and everybody needs to lay hands on them. John hannahp
be out there print. It would be a whole thing.
If Kanye would have said this ten years ago. Now
in twenty twenty five, we don't give But I read
that headline and went scrolled on up my time. I
don't give a damn what Kanye doing, And I hate
that for him, because now you're losing your impact.

Speaker 2 (16:07):
Now we don't even care.

Speaker 3 (16:09):
That's crazy, and that's a that's a nasty feeling when
you're doing attention seeking stuff and they don't even get
nobody's attention. So that's that's where it's gonna get weird.
Played in too long, Yeah, became a clown ty Reese.

Speaker 2 (16:21):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (16:21):
Ty Reese's daughter, who's now eighteen, has chosen to live
with him, ending the ten thousand monthly child support payments.

Speaker 2 (16:28):
I'm happy for that. His shailor my shailor. We're so
happy that He's kids ain't loyal. What you mean the kids?
Kids ain't loyal.

Speaker 3 (16:39):
That's just you know, your mama was setting up the
play to get the ten grand of money.

Speaker 2 (16:43):
Why would you go over there and live with him?

Speaker 4 (16:45):
Because you're messing with me. The mama probably messed with.
Ain't giving her, ain't sharing, Yep, she ain't sharing that.
I ain't even eighteen years.

Speaker 2 (16:53):
Ain't goinda die?

Speaker 4 (16:55):
And I know you getting I'm old enough now you
know you're getting these ten grand new car in here.
Mama got new Amazons coming to the door. I ain't
got a damn thing, And I'm reason I'll tell you what.
I'm gonna go live with daddy. Mama gave too many nose, Yeah,
too many nose. But I know I'm the reason you're
getting this money.

Speaker 2 (17:13):
Kids are not yer. You know that is a loyal thing.

Speaker 1 (17:16):
And plus your d Like I say, I think I
think sons should be what they definitely be with the
their fathers right when they start in high school from
that thirteen fourteen on out on out for sure, because
I mean, your mom teaches you how to nurture a
lot of stuff, but that man time, I think that's
a big time. I do think your daughter needs to

(17:38):
be around her father. Those you don't need need from
eighteen to too, because I mean, my daughter spent a
lot of time with me when she's eighteen.

Speaker 2 (17:47):
That's what I was.

Speaker 1 (17:47):
Really pouring game into it, afe and those are the
ones that stuck, you know what I mean. I just
you know, it's just you know, I'm gonna go into it.
People do dash bad, bro, they do.

Speaker 2 (18:01):
Moms get done bad too. Get the kids in the money.
What are you talking? I don't understand.

Speaker 3 (18:07):
Yeah, and all the responsibilityfe yeah, yeah, you talk about
getting a kid in high school, I didn't done all
the what.

Speaker 2 (18:13):
No, no, no, no, no. I will tell you this.

Speaker 1 (18:16):
I will tell you this, every man, any man that
wants to be a father, ain't tripping on that. They're
not tripping on having a responsibility because you know what
we could pay for it if we already. The money
that I'm giving you could go towards a sitter, It
could go towards.

Speaker 2 (18:34):
Not her mother.

Speaker 3 (18:35):
You y'all be so mad about giving them the money.
Y'all would rather pay a babysitter than have your child
with their mother.

Speaker 2 (18:43):
No, no, no, no, no. I know that's a different, that's different.

Speaker 1 (18:46):
I'm not gonna do nothing, goofy and keep my kid
away from the mom. But what I'm saying is a
lot of times women y'all get the money and the kid.

Speaker 2 (18:54):
That's a lot.

Speaker 1 (18:55):
Dudes want to see their fathers, want to see their
kids broad when they walk through the door. They want
to hear like yo. They want to see their baby
running up to them and walk through the door. Those
are these men want.

Speaker 4 (19:08):
I know plenty of fathers who have dealt with men
who are of age. I mean of sons who are
of age who are like, hey, it's time for my
son to stay with me and the mother due to
the not doing what's best interest of the son, even
though you know, you know your father, you should be
raised by your father around that age, but they don't

(19:29):
want to let go up the control and they don't
want to let go of the paper, so they will
rather go to their inside the way that they feel
and like their feelings, and that's they baby and all
of that instead of doing what's best, and that happens
countless time. Think about it, as guys, if it's time
for him to be with his dad and they want the.

Speaker 3 (19:48):
Money to be with his dad from the day he
was born, it's not. You don't get to a certain
age and all of a sudden needs your daddy. You
need your daddy your whole life. A lot of times
it's more complicated when you try to wait and enter
a kid's life after they are a certain age.

Speaker 4 (20:00):
She ain't been in there, loud no no, kei no, no, no, no, no,
you're missing the point. The son has been there, no,
the dad has been there. It just wasn't the primary.
He wasn't living in the house they separated. It was
raised with they mama, Dad been there through the weekends
since time spent summers.

Speaker 2 (20:20):
Has a great relationship.

Speaker 4 (20:22):
But now now that you're getting older, it's time for
him to stay with me full time. And women get
they don't they don't want to relinquish that ain't No,
I'm not talking about a dad that ain't been there
then and pull up at fourteen stay with me.

Speaker 2 (20:36):
No, No, I'm only talking about dad.

Speaker 4 (20:39):
What you say, The dance I'm talking about are the
dads who's been there, Yes, co parents and this whole
entire time. Then when they get fourteen and it's time
for them to stay with them, they don't want to
let go.

Speaker 2 (20:49):
The women don't want to let go their pride. They
won't let go of that check, and.

Speaker 4 (20:52):
They don't want to let go of the baby when
it's not best for the son. And you gotta do that.
And that's why dads get the short end of the stick.
And you can't can go to court and just be like,
I just want my child. NI can happy, you're not hardy.
It's for a dad to get custody of a child.
You then they gotta be your mama, got them to
be on crack, missing, got to be at the bottom.

(21:14):
You even get considered break a law that's trying to
be something, and that's it's tough on dad.

Speaker 2 (21:20):
So I'm happy that ty Reese got his shaler, but.

Speaker 3 (21:23):
I don't know because I love ty Reese's no disrespect
to Tyreese. We're just using this as an example. But
it's like you wouldn't have this passion to raise your
child until the money was involved. That that has been
the biggest when it.

Speaker 5 (21:36):
Comes to money.

Speaker 3 (21:36):
So if a mother was saying, don't even pay me
child support, a lot of fathers wouldn't even would be
just out here. It would be totally fine. We're just
seeing their kid on the weekends if it want no money.
But when it comes to money exchange, all of a sudden,
everybody want to.

Speaker 2 (21:48):
Step up a Do you know how that feels.

Speaker 1 (21:51):
I have to disagree with you on that because you
know how crazy that feels for you to have to
see your kid on the weekend and paid this exorbitant
amount of money. That's a lot of stress on one person.
So the money, the money ain't really the thing, because
we all know Tyree got it. It ain't the money.
And I remember when I got put on child support.

(22:13):
I remember DJ Ferris told me shout out to him,
was like yo. He was like, hey, man, just don't
look at the check, bro, no more. Just gonna make
more money.

Speaker 2 (22:21):
That's it. Just gonna make more money.

Speaker 3 (22:24):
I've seen the child sports check before from somebody. I
cried for that.

Speaker 1 (22:27):
Man.

Speaker 2 (22:28):
Yeah, you just been like absolutely, don't even.

Speaker 1 (22:30):
He's like, he's like, well, he said, he told me, bro,
he gave me all the game. He was like, it's
gonna piss you off when she say give me my money.
You're gonna get upset about it because you were like, Nigga,
that's my money that I'm.

Speaker 2 (22:42):
Giving you for our for our kid.

Speaker 1 (22:44):
That ain't that ain't your money. That's my money I'm giving.
It's a lot. He gave me all the game. But
what I'm saying with the stresses, what you were seeing,
tyresee was I don't got my damn kid. God knows
who you got her in front of or him in
front of. And I'm and I'm paying bread. And that's

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just a lot of stress on one person. I don't
know why that that.

Speaker 2 (23:13):
The thing.

Speaker 1 (23:13):
The thing of it is is when women one second,
you're just say that y'all think that women think guys
when they don't have their kids. We just over at
the crib, like, yeah, all right, I ain't got them.

Speaker 2 (23:27):
I ain't got them. I'm outside.

Speaker 1 (23:29):
A lot of times dudes are going outside, bro, because
the pain of being in that house by yourself without
your shorty is nasty.

Speaker 2 (23:37):
Talk about it. That's nasty, and.

Speaker 1 (23:39):
That ain't nothing nasty than a dude in the house
raising your kid because you can't be there and you
like you, like you, you sick.

Speaker 2 (23:49):
It's a it's a lot.

Speaker 5 (23:50):
I definitely agree that it. I'm sure it's a lot.

Speaker 2 (23:53):
I'm sure it is.

Speaker 3 (23:54):
But you guys just cannot place all the blame on
mothers because it's to It takes to to make a baby,
it take too to raise a baby, and it take
two for relationships to break up. And sometimes that's just
a part of a relationship breaking up. It's not comfortable
to her to watch another man raise her child and
she feel like the father is not being there or
loving the child that they created together and don't want to.

(24:14):
I'm talking about in instances where fathers are not in
the household, you keep bringing up people her having somebody
else raise their child. If if there's room for somebody
else to raise your child, you're not active enough.

Speaker 1 (24:23):
No no, no, no, no, that's not a fair statement. Okay,
that's not a fair statement for it because because so
if no, it's not, it's just logical. It's a logical thing.
If I let's just say my situation, I lead a crib,
I lead a crib. All of a sudden, there is
I lead a crib. We don't get along, we broke up.
Now you put another man in there on a daily basis.

(24:44):
That's not me, not being a father, that's me. Me
and your mama don't like each other no more. We
can't be around each other no more. So now we
gotta leave. And then you put somebody in place of
me to be around my kid every single day. He
ain't helped maker.

Speaker 2 (25:02):
He ain't.

Speaker 1 (25:02):
He ain't hold your hand when you was having her.
He ain't done nothing. He's just in here because you
like him. Yes, you like him. That ain't That ain't right.

Speaker 3 (25:11):
So the step parents is are not supposed to exist.
Broke up with somebody. They're never allowed to have any
other adult in your child's life.

Speaker 1 (25:19):
No, no, no, they A responsible adult is not going to
put a new adult in a child's life. It's not
it's not early. It's just not four three, four, five.
I'm gonna I have seen it.

Speaker 2 (25:34):
I seen it.

Speaker 1 (25:36):
How long you're supposed to wait at least at least
to the baby, like five or six. Okay, I agree
with that, five or six, but you gotta you a
lot of times we're talking infants. People break up when
the kids like six seven months and they got a
new dude in the crib. That's wild. That would be
like me, let's say we got the baby. We a

(25:59):
man has a baby. You are all right, cool, got
my girlfriend take care of my three month old one
year old.

Speaker 2 (26:05):
That's a lot, man, that's a lot. Do it all
the time. I don't think.

Speaker 3 (26:12):
You gotta take your I'm not talking about you personally.
I know you're a damn good father, But I'm talking
about there are men out here that play this bullshit
ass game as if they're a victim, and they are
simply not. You chose to leave your family, You chose
to leave out of the house. Now, how dare you
get upset that I have another partner that come in
here and want to be a positive influence in your
child's life. That's saying all stepparents are not allowed to
be stepparents are not worthy to be around your child.

(26:35):
And I just don't agree with that. Women women, A
lot of women play games, yes they do. A lot
of women play games, but a lot of men play
games as well, and a lot of that don't give
a damn about raising a kid until they come down
to a child support check. They don't give a damn
all of a sudden when it comes down to what
you got to pay at court. Now you want to
be a daddy. Now you want custody because you don't
want to pay me. That's because of your man. You're

(26:56):
paying me instead of your instead of thinking about you're
paying it to the household that's raising your child, instead
of you thinking about your health, insurance in the school
and all the constant chad rights. In a child is
a twenty four hour job. There's no time off. You're
not the parent in the household. You have time off,
you have time to do other things.

Speaker 1 (27:14):
All right now, I gotta do it, and I hate
putting my business. I hate putting my business.

Speaker 2 (27:18):
I cain't get to you. It's not about you, No,
I have.

Speaker 1 (27:20):
To because it's more people like me than it is.
What you're talking about I believe, I believe, I believe
you in the room with two dudes are a lot
of percentages on my side.

Speaker 3 (27:32):
In this room, it's a thousand people in the court
that are people that fatherless children.

Speaker 2 (27:37):
I know that it's also kids in their motherless children.

Speaker 1 (27:40):
Yeah, but I'm saying there are more men, there are
more men like me that have experienced this than then.
And I just believe it, and we can put the
poll up on it on the clip. I believe my situation.
All I know is this, I cheated on my on
my first baby, Mama. I did, okay, cool, breaks up,

(28:02):
goes and gets in the relationship.

Speaker 2 (28:04):
Four months later, four months that later, Now she marries
the dude. She marries him.

Speaker 1 (28:09):
Fine, they married within that first month of the marriage,
the first month of the man, She's like, he got
a she got a new daddy. Now she got two daddies.

Speaker 2 (28:20):
That's wrong.

Speaker 1 (28:21):
That ain't that ain't that ain't how you have But
still she hurt. I'm gonna go with it. You hurt,
you mad, you mad? The dude goes and says, the
dude goes and tells me to my face, to my face,
she got two daddies, tells me that it tells me
that I'm gonna adopt her. Know you're not, that's crazy,
know you not. You don't even know it what you're
talking about. Then you go and then you go throughout

(28:44):
my daughter, she'll tell you. She's twenty five now, she'll
tell you. She like throughout her life, you're gonna tell
because she don't know how me and her mama broke up.
She was like, your daddy was a sperm, do on it?
He didn't. He didn't, he didn't, He wasn't even never.
He was never really with your mama anyway, because the
house with the every day so.

Speaker 2 (29:01):
Who she who?

Speaker 1 (29:01):
She gonna believe When me and her dated for three
and a half years, that was I was engaged to her.
So the thing, the thing of this and where I
go with this, the point of it is my daughter
has set it to me clearly, like it was hard
for me to separate. I knew you were my dad,
but then it was also him too, and I couldn't

(29:22):
really bounce out who is my real dad. That's where
the mix up comes, That's where the trauma comes from.
That's and it's more dudes living that way. That's that's
just what I'm that's all I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (29:36):
Oh lord, okay, I'm just tell y'all this. Y'all don't
want me out.

Speaker 3 (29:45):
He can't see and I understand that when you've been
through something you cannot see the other side. I get
it because you've lived it, so you're like, no, no, no,
this is how it's I'm just like, it's.

Speaker 2 (29:57):
Not about done dirty.

Speaker 3 (30:01):
I couldn't imagine I would kill somebody. I would literally
go to jail and spoke cigarettes if if somebody's playing
with my kid like that.

Speaker 2 (30:06):
I get that.

Speaker 5 (30:06):
But I'm just saying, there are a lot of men
that are not like you.

Speaker 3 (30:10):
And I know it's hard for you to understand that,
but there's a lot of men not like you and
Zach Wood.

Speaker 2 (30:15):
Okay, there's a lot of guys.

Speaker 4 (30:17):
And then there's a lot of guys who there's a
lot of guys who are quit on their responsibility. It's
a lot of men who said I'm gone. Now, what
I will say is I used to hate these men.
Prior to having children. I used to say, how could
you leave? How could you say effort and start a

(30:40):
new family? How could you pull O'Brian McKnight and be
like the hell with all of y'all, how could you
do that? Until I went through a situation, I said,
I see how this happened. So all I ask before
we cast judgment on the dads, before we cast judgment
on moms. It's not there you, let's ask some questions.

(31:00):
Don't just listen to the parent who there, because that
mug may be jaded. Okay, and there's some other things
that has happened within this.

Speaker 2 (31:08):
Situation that has caused this.

Speaker 4 (31:11):
You know what I'm saying, a lot of times when
a dad isn't there, we automatically go to dead beat.

Speaker 2 (31:15):
He don't want to be there.

Speaker 4 (31:16):
You should have did this, but you don't know the
hell he went through trying to fight.

Speaker 2 (31:21):
And then it just was like, you know what, I
give up. I give up.

Speaker 4 (31:25):
I can't I can't do this no more. I'm gonna
go crazy, I'm gonna kill somebody, and I want to
stay out of jail. I want to stay alive. So
you know, it goes to that, I've been there.

Speaker 2 (31:34):
You don't know the mother struggle.

Speaker 3 (31:35):
You know, have children, and the man leaves ups and
leaves and then think he can come back and go
out and come back and come back when he please,
pay when he pleased, come when he please. A lot
of women deal with that as well, and a lot
of women tolerated so that their kids just have some
type of relationship with a father and they don't get
credit for that.

Speaker 2 (31:52):
No, that's true.

Speaker 1 (31:53):
That's you and I want to get and not that
put none no more because my first baby mama is
a beautiful woman.

Speaker 2 (31:58):
Man, she's super cool. She's becose.

Speaker 1 (32:00):
I heard her, and you know what I mean, and
that and I mean, it took me a long time,
and I think a lot of times guys gotta look
at the fact. You gotta look at hey, especially when
it was your fault. There is there is a there
is relationships that just fall apart. I've been a part
of those, but I mean, this one was my fault,
like one hundred percent of my fault.

Speaker 2 (32:19):
So you I used to be like, man, I can't believe.

Speaker 1 (32:22):
This is happening, and this like, but if I was
the domino that started everything, and if I had a
been me and her had a you know, I had
an amicable split. It wasn't like that. She wouldn't have
been hurt that way. This is you know what I mean.
She wouldn't have been mad. She wouldn't have and she
was angry. She's angry.

Speaker 2 (32:41):
She was, and that was than a mad woman. Women
woman's I ain't gonna go too far.

Speaker 1 (32:52):
I want to move over to beautiful. But you started it, no,
y'all that used to be out here. Well you said no,
you are reacting. There's a lot of women to start shit,
innocent reactors. Right right, Let's go ahead and get to this. Well,

(33:13):
we can talk about this real quick. Whis Kalie for urgents?
Co parents not to have sex? And I am totally
in agreeance with that. Let me go ahead, Yeah it is,
we got it. We ready. You and Amber have been
co parenting for a long time and I think it's amazing.

Speaker 4 (33:29):
But what's the one thing for someone who's going through
a co parenting situation that they should not do?

Speaker 2 (33:34):
No sex? Great advice, Please don't do it.

Speaker 6 (33:39):
And not from experience I'm saying please don't do it,
but from experience of not doing it.

Speaker 2 (33:44):
Do not have sex. Don't do it? What does it do?
Complicates everything?

Speaker 6 (33:50):
And women are rightfully going to think that you still
want them if you keep doing that.

Speaker 2 (33:58):
That's a fact. You're not wrong. I didn't know argument here,
no argument? What's this a rabbits a rap rap?

Speaker 3 (34:05):
You gotta you gotta shut it down. It gets too complicated.

Speaker 1 (34:09):
Yeah, that that that we we all agree on that
when we keep it moving.

Speaker 2 (34:13):
We keep moving.

Speaker 1 (34:14):
Okay, Mount Rushmore, this has fun. Mount Rushmore post a
trending right now? Who's your Mount Rushmore? And nineties r B.

Speaker 2 (34:24):
Think about it?

Speaker 3 (34:26):
The King of R and B h Mary J. Blish
for sure, Babyface got one more spot.

Speaker 4 (34:35):
The whispers that's not nineties, it's fifties are my fault.

Speaker 2 (34:39):
The whispers. I'm like, wait, what hmmm? I mean I'm
gonna run them off. I was alive during the nineties
at the height. We know you was alive.

Speaker 5 (34:53):
It wasn't nobody didn't then what I just named?

Speaker 2 (34:57):
What are you talking about?

Speaker 5 (34:58):
R Kelly, Mary J. Blash and Babyface?

Speaker 2 (35:02):
You missing one more?

Speaker 5 (35:03):
That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (35:03):
I need one more. I can't think of one. Mary J. Blige.
Mary J.

Speaker 5 (35:09):
Blige had the nineties on Lock for R and B.
Did come on?

Speaker 3 (35:14):
I was sliding down and one the no crying to
not gonna cry no more? I was six, So yeah,
she had that on Lock.

Speaker 2 (35:22):
I'm trying, and all.

Speaker 5 (35:23):
These girls that came after Mary tried to be Mary.

Speaker 2 (35:26):
I'm gonna put it.

Speaker 1 (35:27):
I gotta say, oh, I want to It's it's a
lot of audible.

Speaker 2 (35:33):
Mentions because I love Tony Tony Tony, but I'm gonna
leave baby group. But are we doing groups or everything?
It could be any period. So you gotta say I'm
with you with babyface.

Speaker 5 (35:44):
Absolutely, that's half the That's half the genre in itself.

Speaker 2 (35:48):
Everybody kills I'm with you. You got to give it
to him. I gotta get kills there. I can't.

Speaker 1 (35:54):
I can't leave out because was that it was the
early two thousands. Was ushered early two thousand.

Speaker 5 (36:01):
He's early two thousand, very early.

Speaker 2 (36:03):
He was late late nineties, nineties. Damn god it Maybe
I have to be married. It has to give it up.
I don't want to not give it up.

Speaker 1 (36:12):
I mess with it. I messed with but I like
to be honest with you. I'm gonna keep it up.

Speaker 2 (36:16):
Buck.

Speaker 1 (36:16):
I like Mary at the time, and faith faith.

Speaker 2 (36:20):
Faith was strong in the nineties. Strung why are you
making it? Faith?

Speaker 1 (36:24):
No?

Speaker 5 (36:25):
Faith was strong in the nineties, But I just feel
like Mary was the recipe.

Speaker 2 (36:29):
She was and then oh you said.

Speaker 3 (36:32):
Their byproducts of the recipe, the original recipe. Now, I
could be wrong, because everybody know Faith wrote a lot
of records for people. And what was going on in
Bad Boy that he could have been stealing from Faith
to make marry Pop.

Speaker 2 (36:43):
I don't know.

Speaker 5 (36:44):
But from the outside looking man, you had Mary and
then you had a lot of.

Speaker 3 (36:48):
Little Mary's, a lot of little Mary's, and Faith is
a byproduct of a Mary.

Speaker 2 (36:54):
In my opinion, I gotta think. I gotta think who
that last one is.

Speaker 5 (36:59):
That's tough. Last spot is tough, because.

Speaker 2 (37:04):
No, okay, m hmm, here's mine.

Speaker 4 (37:07):
I'm going to King of R and B gotta go Rob.
This is just my favorites. I don't give a damn.
Y'all can argue with it all you I'm not here
give it what you'll think. Boys to me, okay, boys
to men is in mine. I'm gonna take Mary off
and go Riah Carey. Oh yeah, I'm gonna go Mariah Carey.

(37:32):
This my like that you can say whatever you say,
whatever the hell you want to say, and I don't.

Speaker 2 (37:37):
I don't know how you go nineties.

Speaker 4 (37:39):
I don't know how you go ninety, especially if you're
talking a woman without Whitney or Janet Whitney.

Speaker 2 (37:46):
Janet wasn't R and B. She's more pop. Why Whitney
had to go with Whitney. It's just okay.

Speaker 4 (37:52):
So here's here's my thing with Whitney, Whitney, Michael Jackson, Prince,
I those are I don't put them in the genre.
Those are genre lists artists to me, because it's hard
for me to put them in R.

Speaker 2 (38:04):
And B like they just musical. Yeah, like Chris R.

Speaker 4 (38:10):
Really, I don't really put them in no category. So
I can't put Whitney on there.

Speaker 2 (38:15):
I get what you said.

Speaker 3 (38:15):
She was just but in the nineties though, Whitney was
heavy R and B, like you had the soundtracks for Bodyguard,
the soundtrack for Wait Next Hell, you had you know,
her albums, like she was that girl.

Speaker 5 (38:30):
As far as R and B, it was her and
Tony Braxton.

Speaker 2 (38:32):
At the time. Yeah, and Monica Brandy.

Speaker 5 (38:36):
Nobody want to get Brandy and yeah, for.

Speaker 2 (38:38):
Sure Brandy should be in the conversation for sure. Brandy
Alia yep.

Speaker 4 (38:47):
Aliah, I hate I hate my y'all ain't gonna like my.

Speaker 2 (38:50):
Alia.

Speaker 1 (38:51):
Take Tony Braxon. I'm going with it. I'm going Tony
Braxy got.

Speaker 5 (38:54):
That's what I said.

Speaker 4 (38:55):
Yeah, but what's take y'all ain't gonna like it. Y'all
gonna fight me, So I'm be quiet. What careful John
don't get cast Aliyah has.

Speaker 2 (39:05):
Beautiful records, beautiful records, I don't.

Speaker 4 (39:09):
I think that careful Alile to me was a product
of Missy and Timberland.

Speaker 2 (39:15):
So what I get that.

Speaker 4 (39:17):
But they did the same thing with the Escape records.
They did the same thing with the uh the what's
the other records that Timberland and Missy did? That sound
it's got that same Aliah sound, And I realized that
the sound really is from Missy and Tim and her
voice isn't that strong where it's like anybody couldn't like
nobody else could sing that record and it would work.

Speaker 5 (39:39):
Now, you're not wrong when it comes to that. He
not wrong when it comes to that.

Speaker 3 (39:43):
Aliyah had she had r Kelly groomed her sadly, it
was kind of like her so the music was his
at first, and then she got with Missy and similar,
but she still had the star factor, did I She was.

Speaker 1 (39:58):
Not like people to have any teams, any teams the
way if Zach or y'all somebody had a team, y'all
are y'all were like, you know what, No, I mean,
she had a everybody had a team. Janet Jackson is
a product of Jimmy jam and Terry Lewis, who's a
product of Prince Samy Face wrote everything in the nineties
for everybody. Tony Braxton wouldn't even have a career if

(40:22):
it wasn't.

Speaker 4 (40:22):
For I get that, you can't do I get that,
but I'm saying voice wise, vocally, it wasn't. Her voice
didn't stand out where I was like, yeah, he wrote
that song, but but she sang that mug you know,
baby like it was very average. The vocal level was now,
the star power, the cool factor, the swag that was Aliah,

(40:45):
that was all her.

Speaker 2 (40:46):
You can't buy that.

Speaker 4 (40:47):
But the songs, the voice average as a hell. You
can find that in every city. You can find it
in every sing I can't.

Speaker 2 (40:55):
I can't go. Donelle Jones to get the hell out
of here, lout of here, Mount rushore three songs. He
ain't No Mounts had three songs Jones on the way
to work.

Speaker 1 (41:14):
Records bro a lot of them, you tweaking name Records
didn't a lot of them a lot of them, a
lot of what I put on the Shape room comments.

Speaker 3 (41:24):
I said, please, don't put me on the list that
I don't belong on, you know, don't put me on
no mountains that I don't belong on, because when people
start revealing how much you don't belong now, it gets
so crazy.

Speaker 2 (41:35):
Like Zach going to go in on Daniel Jones. He
can't even I like Donell's Hugh, but.

Speaker 3 (41:39):
He got records, So yeah, that's.

Speaker 1 (41:44):
No, no, no, okay, y'all wasn't around, y'all was kids
school me. Please listen to Daniel Jones, y'all in the
kindergarden where I want to be, you know, what's up?

Speaker 4 (41:55):
The the the what's the name? The remix that he
did of Stevie Wonder song I Ain't gonna lie. He
sang this love, this love, just.

Speaker 2 (42:05):
This love.

Speaker 3 (42:06):
That's for a I know, I wouldn't see, I wouldn't position.
I would have never put down in this position, you know.

Speaker 2 (42:15):
And this is what ton up. Yes he does.

Speaker 4 (42:16):
We talking about Rushmore and then he just goes to
people that he like, like yes, And I'm like, it's
a difference between people that you like and a real
amount Rushmore artist.

Speaker 3 (42:26):
Because if you talk down Joe, you gotta talk case. Yes,
there's so many, so many conversations. If Joe, you gotta
be in there. You can't talk down without talking Joe
talk Joe Maxwell, Bobby Brown. Yeah, you you're just saying stuff.

Speaker 2 (42:43):
No, I'm not. I did not ask to be here.
Love he got mention him.

Speaker 1 (42:51):
All right, Let's get to this women guy and be
happy if he makes significantly less money than them.

Speaker 2 (43:02):
One more time.

Speaker 1 (43:04):
A woman did a guy and be happy if he
makes significantly less money than her, if she wants to Yeah.

Speaker 2 (43:12):
What he doing.

Speaker 5 (43:13):
It's all about what he's doing with the money.

Speaker 2 (43:15):
That he's making.

Speaker 4 (43:16):
He can't be happy, but she can't. What you mean
that she can't be happy. I mean she can be
happy because that's what she She got the money. All
she needs is the protection, the partner aspect of it,
the loyalty of it. She can be perfectly fine. That
man gonna be told up. You can't handle it. It's

(43:37):
not it's not designed like that.

Speaker 2 (43:39):
It takes it takes a strong, strong, strong.

Speaker 4 (43:42):
Man to sit up here. And how y old woman
pull out her card every time y'all go to dinner.

Speaker 2 (43:46):
We see that's the thing. That's the thing. You don't
do that. You don't do that. You know you broke.

Speaker 3 (43:52):
So you pay for the stuff you can't afford. You
pay for the dinners. You let her handle the mortgage.
You never see how the mortgage. You're the man. You
know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (44:03):
You take your whole check.

Speaker 4 (44:05):
And you gotta put your whole check on the line
every time, and you know it's gone like and then
it's that vacation. She's like, you want to go hear
and you yeah, And it's cool in the beginning. When
you can't, When you can't do nothing for vacation, you
just feel less.

Speaker 2 (44:20):
Then, you know what I'm saying, You can feel less.
Then you could pay. You let her book the vacation.
You pay for everything.

Speaker 5 (44:27):
When y'all there, Yes, at the all inclusive resort.

Speaker 2 (44:29):
What it drinks is free already. Yes, you you got Zach.
You know you talk the world how to be a
broke friend.

Speaker 4 (44:35):
I know exactly how to be a broke friend. But
a broke partner is tough. You need to find somebody
that's close to you where y'all can kind of be.

Speaker 2 (44:42):
It doesn't need to be a big age gap.

Speaker 4 (44:45):
She can't be making five hundred thousand dollars a year
and then you be making sixty. You're in trouble and
you're gonna feel like it because guess what, she has
a five hundred thousand dollars lifestyle that you just can't
compete with. She she takes uber blacks without thinking about it.
All her bills are on auto pay. She pays for
certain stuff. It's certain luxuries that she has that you
just can't do. Okay, she's gonna be in rooms with

(45:08):
other women who make that type of money, whose husbands
make more.

Speaker 2 (45:11):
And then when you.

Speaker 4 (45:12):
Got to sit up there with your little fifty thousands,
she bought your suit. You can go to the thing
now you feel away. It can't last forever. It can
be for a moment.

Speaker 2 (45:20):
No, it could last. So I don't want to be
taken care of.

Speaker 4 (45:26):
You have you not broke? You're not that low. You're
at a point where it's nothing. You make enough money
that in this world you can move around in any
room without having the axe. Okay, that's fair. So that's
a different level than when you send here. But you

(45:47):
make forty thousand dollars a year. They done took they
done took twenty. They done took twenty for taxes. You
see thirty. Mind you you make three thousand, six hundred
and fifty four dollars a month. You can't do nothing
with that woman that make five hundred. You just can't do.

Speaker 2 (46:03):
I don't care how secure you think you is. You can't.
You can't. You gotta ask me.

Speaker 1 (46:08):
You in trouble, Now that true. Now you gotta be
able to I can tell you how to you. I
don't know what the number is. I don't want to
tell people my number. The number is. I can tell
you gotta be able to take care of the dinners.
You got an uber black. You gotta be able to
uber black everywhere. You gotta uh and then take care
of the vacation stuff like little stuff like hey out groceries.

(46:31):
All right, look, I'm about to go keego grab blah
blah blah. And it's usually from a store. I'll never forget.
I went to a grocery store that humbled the ship
out of me. Somebody asked me to go to the
grocery store. I went in that grocery store. I was like,
it's like, I was like, we gotta go to this
grocery store.

Speaker 2 (46:50):
I called.

Speaker 1 (46:50):
I was like, we gotta go to this grocery store.
I know I saw one around. Oh that's the one
that got everything cool, out of control, prices to control.
I don't trying to go to the jewels.

Speaker 2 (47:02):
No jewels, you're looking for the pizza.

Speaker 1 (47:07):
It's just like you gotta the only thing. Like you said,
if you can't take care of the little, the little stuff.

Speaker 4 (47:14):
You have to make enough to take care of the minimum,
the minimum of her minimal life. You don't make enough
to afford her minimal life, you're gonna be in trouble.
You cannot afford the mortgage.

Speaker 3 (47:25):
How do y'all feel as a man, because this I
can't speak to. How do you feel? Have you ever
been you've been in a situation where she made more?
Did you have some low key did you have some
low key resentment or insecurity that that you know, like
looking back, like damn, I was stripping it really want her?

Speaker 2 (47:42):
It was me?

Speaker 1 (47:43):
No, I mean for me, I was like I always
get inspired with me, I'm different than most people. I
get inspired by people to make a lot of money.
You do get I get really inspired, Like when people.

Speaker 2 (47:55):
Gonna inspire everybody else.

Speaker 5 (47:56):
You know, everybody get somebody.

Speaker 2 (48:02):
You know, with people.

Speaker 1 (48:03):
I do what I'm just saying, Well, I get around
successful people. I like it, you know what I mean.
You know what I'm saying. I had never been in
the house. I had an elevator and let you off
in the goddamn house. And I saw it. I was like, oh,
it's I got some more levels to get to. But
I never thought like, but you also, I dated a
person that threw their money in your face kind of

(48:26):
in a in a way, and he kind of it,
kind of ignore.

Speaker 2 (48:29):
I ignored it because I wasn't broke. I wasn't broke.
I could move like exactly, I could move.

Speaker 1 (48:33):
But then I dated somebody that was way richer than
that person, way into it and acted.

Speaker 2 (48:40):
Normal, just completely normal, chill. They just did rich people ship, right,
you know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (48:47):
So I think it's a difference how the person that
makes the money, even if you on a lower level
make the money. You can't make people feel bad for
their situation. They standard in life. Right now, you're trying.

Speaker 5 (48:59):
To help get high school. I see, I was a
manager at KFC, so.

Speaker 3 (49:06):
Right, I would say that guy and we went to
eat at beggar's piece. There was me, him, his homie,
and one of my friends and the bill. Okay, and
I'm thinking, like, I'm the manager at KFCC. I'm not
even working a real job around here. So let me
He was pissed, like pissed from that day emasculated him.

(49:27):
How I thought I was doing a good thing. We
in high school, nobody's expected to have money, but like
he was.

Speaker 4 (49:34):
Because he got to allow him have the He wanted
to be the man in the situation. How would y'all
feel like when women say that, How would y'all feel
if we were in a situation and we decided to
be the woman in the situation, if we were if.

Speaker 2 (49:47):
We were out, if we were out disrespected.

Speaker 4 (49:59):
I'm just saying, no, I'm trying when you when mans
to prove when you didn't masculate a man, how is
that emasculating?

Speaker 3 (50:09):
And when you took care of the bill, I'm thinking
I'm doing a good deed. His homie was grateful like thanks, like.

Speaker 2 (50:16):
Yeah, but that was not he feel away. Let me
let me be me. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (50:20):
If you just split that bill he was about to
pay for me and him and then let his homie
pay for him.

Speaker 2 (50:26):
Hey, but guess what he lost.

Speaker 4 (50:27):
He would have walked out with his pride and you
stole his pride.

Speaker 2 (50:32):
Okay, cry my girl, my girl, I got it. I
got it. Now you got me. Look the other week
you got me looking weak.

Speaker 1 (50:42):
Don't help looking girl can like with women now, have
been in situations like well, that bill been nasty, nasty, nasty,
and I have got the card under the table.

Speaker 2 (50:55):
That's a real one, but solid because nobody could see
the but you just pulled the card out stick of it.

Speaker 1 (51:01):
But she saved you. She saved me that bill. I
could have handed that bill, but I would have been sick, sick.

Speaker 4 (51:07):
I've had women do that where they were just taking
me to dinner because it was my birthday or something.

Speaker 2 (51:12):
Like they was.

Speaker 4 (51:13):
They was like, i'll pay, but they still gave me
the card to pay the waiter. And that's how you
know a woman got some good home training. She understands, Kiki,
she understands the rolls. We have to stop getting away
from rolls. We want to play this positionless basketball, and
that's not how playing.

Speaker 2 (51:38):
Everybody can do anything.

Speaker 4 (51:40):
Some five just shooting threes, No, no getting the post
like everybody got a reason that they do things, and
even in front of anybody, you don't want to make
your man look weak. And a lot of times women
with money will make their man look weak and be like,
I'm doing it because I got it.

Speaker 2 (51:55):
It ain't nothing. I ain't worry about it. But still
you don't.

Speaker 4 (51:58):
I don't like the way you're not thinking about the
way it makes him feel in a way it makes
him look. I said all the time, though, I think
and I've been in I think we all been in
these type of relationships. You gotta be a team bro,
like y'all got to come out of the house with
the same jersey on.

Speaker 2 (52:15):
I like that, you just gotta you just got.

Speaker 1 (52:22):
I just feel like your girls should have your back.
It should be no, and it's been time. I've been
in relationships where.

Speaker 2 (52:28):
I'm like, yo, like you shouldn't have said that, or
we moving together? Why we?

Speaker 4 (52:33):
You know?

Speaker 1 (52:34):
It's just sometimes have you ever dated somebody where you
feel like I think you may have said this before,
like you love me, but you don't like me? Yes,
Like it's like you feel like you we always in
competition with each other, And I don't think those are
the good lesson.

Speaker 2 (52:48):
You should be moving as a team, like when you
go out of town.

Speaker 1 (52:51):
Hey man, look, I know I'm doing this because she
liked this, and she know you doing. We're gonna do
this because you like this and all of the different
she sees with money when it comes in a good couple,
you ain't gonna never be able to tell what their
financial status is A good A good couple, I believe
like you just not gonna be able to tell.

Speaker 2 (53:11):
And fellas you should do the same thing. Be nicer
to your.

Speaker 4 (53:13):
Woman when you' all out in front of her friends,
you should be nicer. This ain't the time to be
like I told you to pick up the damn you
know what I'm saying. This ain't the time to cut
out because you made bad. This is the time where
you have more patience. This is the time you might
not pull out a chair every time when y'all by y'allself,
but when you're in front of her friends and stuff
like that, treat her like a queen so she can
be feminine in that role. You know what I'm saying.

(53:34):
You you be extra masculine. She be extra feminine in
that role in public too. It's not just her uh,
not emasculating you. You have to do the same thing
and not make it safe for me to make feminine. Yes,
she needs to feel that. She needs to see you
open and do it all that. She needs to feel
all that in front of her people. Bring her flowers
in front of her friends and stuff like that. Do those,

(53:55):
do those little things, and you'll see.

Speaker 2 (53:57):
How far it gets you. You can.

Speaker 4 (53:59):
You can be meaness here in the house, but if
you're nice in front of her friends and you bring it,
I don't recommend see you. I recommend Look, don't come
out here way.

Speaker 2 (54:08):
No role. I'm not saying yeah, I ain't gonna come
out either way. It ain't no, it's not playing a role.
Here's what I'm trying to tell you about women.

Speaker 1 (54:16):
Yeah, be nice in front of her friends, but.

Speaker 4 (54:22):
No women women enjoyed. Let me tell you something. Women
like sweet and savory. You have to you you can't
be all sweet. You can't be all sweet and think
it's gonna last. And you can't be all savory. You
have to It's a balance. It's a balance women, whether
they admit it or not, they enjoy a little chase

(54:46):
within their own relationship. I got on my man nerves girl,
y'all be happy about stuff.

Speaker 2 (54:54):
Y'all like a little bit of three.

Speaker 3 (54:56):
Don't be mean to me at home and the nice
me in the streets.

Speaker 2 (55:00):
But I'm not saying just shut up, not that type
of man.

Speaker 4 (55:03):
I'm just saying, but you need to have a little
conflict there, and it just to taint. Just to keep it,
keep it good. If you nice guy all the time,
pull your cheer out, love you every day you're gonna
get cheated on. You're gonna get cheated on it. And said,
I just don't. I'm at the point of my life.
I just want peace. The unnecessary argument.

Speaker 2 (55:21):
I'm not saying.

Speaker 1 (55:23):
Unnecessary. I just like a good time short. I don't
want you do, not want to see you. I don't
want conflict. I was really good at conflict. I'm not
in those no more.

Speaker 2 (55:40):
I want to laugh with you. I want to all
that it should be in there.

Speaker 4 (55:43):
But I'm trying to tell you, if you're too sweet,
you're gonna end up with a cavity.

Speaker 2 (55:49):
If you're too sweet, you're gonna end up with it.
Can't be too sweet all your time, not all that like.
It's a balance. It's a balance. I'm not saying it.

Speaker 4 (55:57):
Go start something with your girl, because y'all ain't argued.

Speaker 2 (55:59):
That don't make sense either.

Speaker 4 (56:00):
But when there is conflict, don't shy away from it
because you're worried about pissing her off. You still got
to stand up, Like, if there's something that happens, address
it like a man. Even if y'all do have to
go against each other a little bit, you gotta stand
up in it. You can't be like baby, I think
that that's that you can be soft and what I
want you to do, that's fair. That's fair.

Speaker 1 (56:23):
Kiki gotta go somewhere. So man, we got to hold out.
She got a heart out.

Speaker 2 (56:26):
Man.

Speaker 5 (56:26):
I want to take my proposal pictures with a Maria.

Speaker 1 (56:31):
I think if I was like when I look at
that picture, I was like, what would I have done?

Speaker 2 (56:35):
Like I think about who is my childhood sweetheart? Like?
Did I like like that? What you said?

Speaker 3 (56:41):
I think about it every day? You should like what
should I have done? What should I do?

Speaker 1 (56:45):
I can tell y'all this destiny child story.

Speaker 2 (56:49):
I have a destiny.

Speaker 1 (56:52):
I'm not going to allow you. I'm gonna say the
absolute troop. I swear to God on everything. I love
every kid I have. You can ask Shag, you can
ask Sony from Jerome Kemp, you can ask the whole thing.

Speaker 2 (57:03):
It's not that type of story, but it is that
type of story.

Speaker 1 (57:07):
It's quick. I heard yeah, you heard it before. It's
we're river Oaks. We're interviewing Desty Child, Me and Shag.
We got the little dak retorder.

Speaker 2 (57:18):
You know you have it. It was the electric recorder. Whatever.

Speaker 1 (57:21):
We interviewing them. We interviewing them. Everything is going great,
Everything is going great. Beyonce is right next to me,
Kelly is next to Shag, and we are having laughs.

Speaker 2 (57:34):
We got him cracking up. That's what we did.

Speaker 1 (57:36):
We would always great interviews, have a the interview gets
cut short. Matthew Knowles says hey. He says, hey, look
y'all can ride with us in the in the van
and go down to you not to Sin and finish
interviewing and then watch the show. And I was like,
because he's like, he was like, y'all, just y'all jump
in the van, come on. I was like, nah, we're cool.

(57:59):
We got enough, We got enough stuff. Thanks, and he
looked at me like okay. Shag looked at me like
he was like why Because I was driving a I
had a car that was it was my car from college, y'all.

Speaker 2 (58:17):
It was. It was a nine eight. It was raggedy.

Speaker 1 (58:21):
It had no rims on it, It had no hub
caps and on nothing. It was dirty at that time.
And I was gonna have to follow that. My boy
was gonna follow us, follow us in my car. But
know what my car had on the front of them,
on the front of that had capper plates on the
front of it. I would have been it was. I
would have had to explain that car to duty child.

(58:44):
I was embarrassed. I was like, no, we're straight.

Speaker 4 (58:47):
You fumbled Beyonce over a car and you didn't even
think this.

Speaker 2 (58:51):
You didn't think it hurt me for Shag was mad
at me for like real mad like that.

Speaker 4 (59:00):
You you know what, I would have said, that's not
my card and been done with it.

Speaker 2 (59:05):
Yeah, I didn't think about that because you were so
thinking about that car. You were so nervous.

Speaker 4 (59:09):
You should have just said, hey, if they would have
asked about it, first of all, you gotta find out
that is following us, because you wouldn't even have known.
I would have hopped in the car with Beyonce. Nev
did my thing, and if they if it came up
like I don't know who.

Speaker 1 (59:22):
First case scenario, I would have been cool with Beyonce
saying Kelly like the saying way, I'm cool with a
lot of the rappers and stuff. For being known them
for years and interviewed them. We would have been We
would have been cool. Because it was two.

Speaker 2 (59:33):
That I thought about it. It was like it was
one of them moments like and I've.

Speaker 1 (59:37):
You everybody's had these bolls in radio where you interview
somebody and you like yo, just like we this is
gonna be one of them interviews that were gonna make
us cool forever. We're gonna always be able to interview
I'd always been able to interview Beyonce if that had
happened always, it wasn't. If we ain't gonna say nothing
sexual or nothing not, we'd have been cool with them,
That's for sure.

Speaker 2 (59:58):
That's said.

Speaker 3 (59:58):
Fumbling on Marianna one thing, fumbling beyond you are to
be ashamed.

Speaker 2 (01:00:03):
Of bumbling on Mario on the fourth Millennium Tour. Not
too much, but.

Speaker 1 (01:00:10):
Fumbling Beyonce Prime Child. It's crazy, that's crazy. It's the worst.
It's so I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:00:18):
Who I'm mad at right now, Please now be mad
at because that was like mine was. We was cool.

Speaker 1 (01:00:24):
Everybody laughing. It was like, you don't know what was that.
Kiki's is a lot different.

Speaker 2 (01:00:30):
Yeah, he was on that. He was on that with Kiki.
That's a lot different he was on. It's a lot
this crazy. That man looked at you like I didn't.
I fumbleed Beyonce friendship. That's the story.

Speaker 4 (01:00:42):
I'm going to tell now which Destiny child was it?
Which version of it it was with with Michelle?

Speaker 2 (01:00:49):
Mhmm, this was with Michelle. You fumbled ship.

Speaker 1 (01:00:52):
You fumbled the real Beyonce that beyond that. Yeah, it
was bro like. It was crazy. It was crazy that
we he was even interviewing, but God bless him. Shout
out to one of my boys. This just show shot
in South Suburbs. We got a lot of stars and people,
a lot of people that came to South Suburbs. Jerome
Kemp was like he's younger than me, but always been cool.

(01:01:13):
We hooped together, just our families know each other. He
became the national Sony rep. So he was around. He
was cool, like he was cool with Beyonce and Beyonce
they saw Jerome. She would be like, what about Jerome,
like they were cool and he like with nas like
it was Sony was like its thing.

Speaker 2 (01:01:31):
Sony music was his thing. He was the national rep.

Speaker 1 (01:01:34):
And he hit me like and we didn't we didn't
really have a let me see the I guess experience it.
That's time to be interviewing a desty child. But because
this is my boy, he threw me a lot and
and you.

Speaker 3 (01:01:46):
To forever the guy that didn't get on the bust.

Speaker 4 (01:01:50):
That No, that's crazy, crazy everything at that I would
left my friend.

Speaker 2 (01:01:54):
It was crazy. I left my friend.

Speaker 4 (01:01:56):
You gotta understand, I'm going to you ain't my friend
if you don't want me to have this opport.

Speaker 2 (01:02:00):
You really malfunction. That was another. That was the first
malfunction in my life. But I don't feel so bad anymore. Yeah,
all right, final thoughts, get out, love y'all, potfam and
we will talk tomorrow. Yeah, you see all to mind.

Speaker 1 (01:02:13):
Final thoughts is about the end so much and they
have nothing to say to y'all.

Speaker 2 (01:02:19):
My final thoughts. I love every one of y'all.

Speaker 3 (01:02:21):
Man, please, And if you didn't do your taxes yet,
can you let me know In the comments, I just
want to feel.

Speaker 2 (01:02:25):
Like I'm not alone.

Speaker 4 (01:02:26):
They didn't get an extension, did you.

Speaker 2 (01:02:30):
Yeah? It is that being said for Boy. Can we
say
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