We Made It to Episode 200, iHeartRadio Awards Recap, Is Success Given?, Step Parent Problems, &More!

Tone Kapone, KeKe, and Zach Boog talk We Made It to Episode 200, iHeartRadio Awards Recap, Is Success Given?, Step Parent Problems, &More!

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:02):
All right, y'all, welcome to it. Can I say podcast
and everybody episodeut to? Wow?

Speaker 2 (00:14):
Wow?

Speaker 1 (00:15):
Wow, that is crazy. I at one of your hosts.
But before we get into a two hundred as an episode,
we're going to introduce other people first that helped out
with our two hundredth episode. Uh. You hear him in
the background. I ask you what episode? We are all
the time? Go jump on, Kiki Camerara, get some camera
time there we go, all right, Uh, and then we

(00:45):
have a new member to the pod fam Uh. He's
going to executive produce the pill on pod. Uh. He's
a he's a producer and executiveroducer of the morning show
and he's kept over to the podas right. Welcome, welcome,
new additions. We're growing.

Speaker 3 (01:06):
We are growing, honey, we are growing. But you're the
same though, So I.

Speaker 4 (01:09):
Don't feel about what y'all saw is two people that's
willing to buy in to this dream.

Speaker 3 (01:14):
Don't keep going.

Speaker 1 (01:15):
They bonded to the dream like you bought it into
the dream. We could not have got to this two
hundred episode without y'all. Thank you so much. You already
know what it is. I want your whole song ca
Paul it's going and introduced the other members of the
two hundred pod fam I couldn't think of that else
to go behind that. Yep, he's fluffy and fine the
first lady of the pot miss two hundred.

Speaker 3 (01:37):
Ki kids, Hey, friends, what's going on?

Speaker 4 (01:43):
Just like every other episode, shade honey, and if this
is how y'all want to sell, we can get started
because I'm ready for y'all to say so. Don't they
get a few extracosies in the room and want to
ask fun?

Speaker 2 (01:55):
Okay, hello, everyone missed the two Zach's bug what's up?

Speaker 1 (02:02):
Buddy? Whoa whoa? Damn started reading something?

Speaker 2 (02:10):
What's up y'all? Happy two hundredth episode. Man, I'm so
happy to be here with you. Tone Ryan Kikey writer,
It's good to have you all here.

Speaker 3 (02:20):
Hello, how are you acting like that you started it?

Speaker 4 (02:23):
I was in a great space, friends, I was ready
to pie and have a good time.

Speaker 3 (02:28):
It's a celebration. You started with me.

Speaker 5 (02:31):
I didn't know.

Speaker 3 (02:32):
Well, don't get thirsty when he get my intro.

Speaker 5 (02:34):
I didn't know that you whenever I ever all one hundred,
one hundred.

Speaker 4 (02:39):
Collectors, they just getting out of hand. They didn't text me,
wouldn't to be a collector.

Speaker 2 (02:42):
Start texting this comcast. I just want to see if
you had a little something on it. Oh lord, you
got a little something on it, this little all right?

Speaker 3 (03:00):
Then talk about nickname.

Speaker 1 (03:06):
Oh yeah, we had to get happy two hundred episode
man to PID fan President Man Fan President Mando. Happy
thirty fourth birthday, my brother.

Speaker 3 (03:19):
Happy birthday.

Speaker 2 (03:20):
Appreciate proud of you, sodough Man. We appreciate you man
and everything that you do. Keep them coming down.

Speaker 1 (03:26):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (03:27):
He's been supporting us since day once first started the pod,
been at all the live events, even we have events separately. Yeah,
you know what I'm saying. He pulls up, so shout
out to happy birthday.

Speaker 1 (03:38):
Yeah, very very good brother, Very good brother. Oh okay,
So yeah, I wanted to go ahead and respond on
the pod because I was getting I saw some of
them clips. Oh, we had a lot of people talking
about it when I was saying, you know what we're
talking about, the Anthony Edward situation. Yes, so I was
getting it in the comy.

Speaker 3 (03:55):
Yes you were.

Speaker 1 (03:56):
And again everybody it is if we just gonna get
on here and agreed, I have to get It's my
job to give another spin to it. But I do
believe in the spin that I was saying. I think
what they think is that because I believe one side,
I think the other side is wrong. So I like,
I agree with what Zach saying. If anybody I got

(04:16):
three baby mamas, I understand accountability. What I was saying
for her, and I know you say what she wants
to have the baby I'm saying for her is that
we know that this is an obvious money graph. This
is an obvious money grap right, That's what I'm saying.
Like if you if a dude, because women always say, hey,
I know a f boy when I see one, I

(04:37):
know when a dude only wants something. If a dude
is pulling up on you and saying, hey, what you doing,
and then you think he's going to start a family
with you, that's wrong. What's why. That's why I say
it's a bit of a it's a bit of two responsibilities,
because I get it, there's many women out there that God,
it's gotten duped. Things hasn't worked out, and you create

(04:58):
single paying family household. But when you're a part of it,
when you purposely are a part of it, because you
think when she kept a baby, well she had kept
the baby if it was Anthony Jenkins. No, Anthony Edwards.
She's keeping the baby. So you purposely creating a single
parent household. That's why I said, there's when it's those

(05:19):
type of situations that's the blame. That's what I meant.

Speaker 5 (05:22):
By Okay, Okay, brother, you got that off your I
was you know.

Speaker 2 (05:30):
What that time is like, that's the thing that's usually
you Usually I get told up and when you yeah,
when you talk for a long time, you're gonna say
something to make people mad.

Speaker 5 (05:41):
And that's what happens when we pod. You know what
I'm saying. So we just we don't take it personally.
It is what it is.

Speaker 1 (05:46):
Okay, I felt I felt personally attacked.

Speaker 3 (05:48):
Man, it's you remember when they called me, what was
our dad beat? Use our chemis stuff?

Speaker 1 (05:53):
Oh, I was all.

Speaker 5 (05:54):
Types of stuff. One time.

Speaker 2 (05:55):
It hurt my feelings. I was like, I hurt my
feelings this week. But it's okay, y'all forget. We got
two more clips. Y'all gonna forget.

Speaker 3 (06:01):
Y'all gonna forget.

Speaker 5 (06:02):
That's why you can't in two clips, don't they're not
gonna care.

Speaker 4 (06:05):
Okay, you're happy when when it's the pie fam. I
don't man get beat up by the pie fam. Won
them shade room comments come back. I'll be sitting at
home cleaning my gun.

Speaker 3 (06:15):
Y'all.

Speaker 4 (06:16):
I stopped looking at you got I was like, you know, way,
I'm not gonna make it.

Speaker 2 (06:21):
Get so mad. Oh my god, I don't even look.
I know the first coming. I'm gonna see this all
y'all gonna talk about. But you hear people need to
talk about something else.

Speaker 4 (06:32):
But under every you're under every clip, so you're here
with us to talk about stop stop.

Speaker 5 (06:37):
I can't watch it.

Speaker 1 (06:38):
I don't.

Speaker 5 (06:38):
I just look at the views. I don't look at
the coming, but.

Speaker 3 (06:42):
Keep them coming, keep them coming.

Speaker 1 (06:44):
We gotta check. We love it. But what I felt like,
I felt like dang, I was y'all. Remember I got
raised by women, so I don't you know, I don't.
I don't have I just believe and sometimes there is
accountability on both sides. Everything is not one sided. But
let's go ahead, get to this. The iHeart Radio twenty
five recap. Yes you watch it. I think you put

(07:05):
up a recap. You posted something absolutely.

Speaker 4 (07:07):
I recap all love war shows always all the time.
I love an award show. I'm I'm gonna order me
something to eat, get my living room right, and put
my gown on and get my uh and getting ready
to watch.

Speaker 2 (07:19):
And that's what I did for the iHeart Awards, and
they were good. I had a good time watching.

Speaker 4 (07:24):
Mariah Carey is one of the most entertaining people to
just sit back and watch, not even when she's performing,
just watch her in general, like she's just making weird facts.
She's high as a kite in my mad like. I
don't know what planet she live on, but she make
a lot of weird faces. She do shady stuff. She
had Anderson Park sitting right there showing all thirty two teeth.

Speaker 3 (07:44):
I don't know what come on.

Speaker 4 (07:47):
I don't know what Mariah do to these men, but
they always smiling when they would have. And so I
was just watching her and I figured out that I'm
gonna start when I get a certain age, I'm just
gonna start acting like I can't walk right, because that's
what Mariah do.

Speaker 3 (07:59):
Like she gets up and she was.

Speaker 4 (08:00):
Like, and everybody come run like holder, That's what I'm
gonna start doing, like I need help, you know. So
I'm gonna start doing that because that's just being dramatic,
and she you know, it was cute, lady. Guy guy
said some good stuff. Nelly performed and Nelly Wine forgot
but you did good. Yeah, but we ain't forgot okay,
but he did all right, And so it was it

(08:23):
was a great show.

Speaker 3 (08:24):
Did y'all watch? What do you think?

Speaker 1 (08:26):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (08:26):
It was good. I think that.

Speaker 2 (08:30):
Anderson Mariah Carey day. Yes, Okay, yeah, I think the
iHeart radio. Okay, how did she pick her?

Speaker 3 (08:38):
That?

Speaker 5 (08:39):
What the criteria is to date Mariah?

Speaker 3 (08:42):
Mm hmm, that's a good question.

Speaker 1 (08:45):
Called her.

Speaker 2 (08:46):
I just don't feel like you would just catch Mariah somewhere,
you know what I'm saying, Like Mariah Carey seemed like
like mysterious in a way, like she wouldn't be out,
like for Anderson.

Speaker 1 (08:55):
To ride something you never know, or found somebody that
knew and said to send something to her, you never know.

Speaker 2 (09:03):
It's just a Riah just don't seem like she be
outside enough. She get pulled up on Ymber.

Speaker 1 (09:08):
She's smiling. It is the same reason why I said
about like Amon Shepherd back then, The same thing I
said is that is that it's a win. You can't
not you can never take that away from Annison pact,
like you said, for the simple reason is everybody can't
just pull up on the Tianna Taylor. Everybody just can't
pull up and bag Mariah Carey.

Speaker 2 (09:28):
Okay, we ain't giving him all that credit yet, what
not just because he ain't you a hater?

Speaker 1 (09:34):
Bro?

Speaker 5 (09:34):
No, I'm saying he's he's I think he's dating her.

Speaker 1 (09:37):
Is he dating?

Speaker 3 (09:38):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (09:38):
I say we don't know.

Speaker 3 (09:42):
He was.

Speaker 2 (09:42):
He might be dating her, but he was sitting there
like a looking he ain't got no babies, saying that
like a little kid all half me, like you can't
like the respect that we give it to like Nick,
Nick got two babies by you know what. You know
what I'm saying, why fit? I'm saying you just you
dating Mariah.

Speaker 4 (10:02):
He's sitting row at the iHeart Awards with Mariah Carey.
That's a win, bro, no matter what, I don't give
damn if they was just on a blind day, you
took me and set me front row and them cameras.

Speaker 3 (10:14):
But next to your kids, he in there.

Speaker 1 (10:16):
Thank you?

Speaker 3 (10:17):
In there?

Speaker 5 (10:17):
Okay he looked like one of the kids.

Speaker 3 (10:19):
He did, He did look like one of the kids.
But that's my man to look.

Speaker 4 (10:23):
If I bring my man to a ward show, I
want to see all thirty two teeth when they talk
about me, like they would see.

Speaker 2 (10:28):
The girls were singing and it's over there, like, yes,
Maria's just straight face. She ain't even smiling at the
girls that's performing for her. But Anderson is over here
jumping up and that that's how it's supposed to be. Okay,
So when y'all.

Speaker 4 (10:40):
Girlfriends, take y'all somewhere, y'all need to do the same things.

Speaker 3 (10:43):
Now, be happy for her.

Speaker 1 (10:45):
You definitely got to smile when your lady getting honored.
You're supposed to smile and be the be the arm candy,
just the same way she's supposed to do the same thing.

Speaker 5 (10:52):
You know how I sit on a pillow during the
shave room.

Speaker 3 (10:55):
Now, why are you telling yourself?

Speaker 2 (10:57):
I said, I never knew that was crazy. Yeah, I
was saying that for the documentary one day. You think
you think I don't know that I have a short
Torso I know my flaws.

Speaker 5 (11:11):
That's the thing. It's not that I'm too short for
the chair. I have all my height as as much
as he is.

Speaker 2 (11:17):
It's in my legs, so I have to sit on
all my heights in my like, look at my chair right.

Speaker 5 (11:22):
Now, it's up to its highest it is. That's how
I have to sit.

Speaker 2 (11:25):
I'm not ashamed, so you put in documentary teller, I
don't care. But what I'm saying is I wish he
had a pillow because he could sit up a little higher,
because he just looked so young, so young, and like, yeez, like,
he looked so young. He didn't look like her man
to me in that in that situation, and I know
it doesn't matter, but he didn't.

Speaker 1 (11:45):
I don't care what I look like. I'm a Mariah
Carey and I know, and you could talk your talk
like it ain'ate just for the exact reason you said it.
You know, it's not Mariah Carrey not giving everybody a shot,
but it's a lot of people shooting shots, and he
got her. You gotta. I mean, hey, look, I don't
care what I look like on that front road with

(12:05):
Mariah Kid, because I'm on the front road with Mariah
cared period.

Speaker 5 (12:09):
Okay, y'all gonna act like this is it is a right.

Speaker 2 (12:12):
I just want to let y'all y'all look like this
just the new powered couple.

Speaker 5 (12:17):
Go ahead.

Speaker 2 (12:18):
I can't wait till y'all start saying, ain't nobody talking
about Answer Pot and Mariah?

Speaker 3 (12:22):
But y'all, so was that the show last night?

Speaker 1 (12:26):
That's wow?

Speaker 2 (12:27):
Okay, shout out to the iHeart Just Radio Music Awards.
I thought it was very well produced, like it's probably
one of the best producers.

Speaker 3 (12:36):
Can we go? I would like to go. Okay, it's
getting a little embarrassing. We're working here a lot a
long time.

Speaker 4 (12:42):
I didn't wait from every department in this I would
like to attend. I didn't been to the beautib BT
and Ward about three four times. Can I at least
come to the wars where I work.

Speaker 5 (12:50):
And get me a ticket? And I don't want to
do that.

Speaker 1 (12:54):
I think that should be, honestly think that should be.
So we should get like we should get there every
every If you hold out a major day part for
the company, you should be at the heart.

Speaker 3 (13:03):
And like, no disrespect. They had ll cool J hosting.

Speaker 4 (13:06):
I know a bald guy, light skin, Okay, that could
have done a great job hosting that for you know
what I'm saying. I know a guy, so no shame,
but yeah, I would like to go.

Speaker 1 (13:18):
That's what we're you know a place where I work
there with that would be kind of cool. It's like
when I try to.

Speaker 3 (13:23):
Go see that comedy show, you know what I'm saying,
I could barely get in.

Speaker 1 (13:26):
So that's got another comedy show, cup.

Speaker 3 (13:28):
I know I'm gonna be at that one.

Speaker 5 (13:30):
Yeah, we'll see.

Speaker 1 (13:31):
I'm supposed to do my first, my first ever three
minutes of comedy. I'm still debating.

Speaker 5 (13:35):
Now we got torn on the lineup.

Speaker 3 (13:37):
I got to be there.

Speaker 5 (13:38):
He's doing three minutes in the beginning.

Speaker 3 (13:40):
I got to be there. I cannot wait, I cannot win.

Speaker 1 (13:42):
I told him yesterday, I have my beginning.

Speaker 3 (13:45):
You have, you have your beginning.

Speaker 1 (13:47):
I have the beginning.

Speaker 3 (13:48):
Yeah, oh a beginning.

Speaker 5 (13:49):
He's got the beginning of his set.

Speaker 1 (13:51):
Is that? What is that?

Speaker 3 (13:52):
What comedian is calling?

Speaker 1 (13:55):
Just at the beginning?

Speaker 3 (13:58):
You didn't make it an album. I got an intro like.

Speaker 2 (14:03):
The beginning beginning. But we are excited for tom out
with you. He's gonna do, he's gonna do. We're gonna
put three minutes on the clock and let's see what
he got.

Speaker 4 (14:13):
So you got a towel and I was like, all, look,
community have like a little towel in the pocket about
him sweating.

Speaker 5 (14:20):
I can't wait, you're gonna do five.

Speaker 3 (14:22):
I'm gonna be the heckler.

Speaker 1 (14:27):
At least you gotta have a playing somebody to start
the laught off.

Speaker 4 (14:30):
Like no, I got you, I got you. I was
laughing for he even got to the microphone.

Speaker 1 (14:35):
I was laughing.

Speaker 3 (14:36):
The people was like the three hundred level was like, girl,
I'm like, he's so funny. He is so funny.

Speaker 1 (14:45):
All right, let's get Kanye is kind because I've seen
a lot Charlotte Mane saying something about Kanye West talking about,
you know, he's grand standing and maybe just being loud basically.
And he did another weird thing, Kanye. He had a
Diddy song with King Komb's and North all on the

(15:07):
same record and released it. Now they're said, Kim is
extremely mad about it. What do you guys think.

Speaker 2 (15:14):
I think she has every right to be mad about it.
With the things that Diddy is going through right now,
I wouldn't want my child associated with it right now
in the heat of that, Like this isn't I don't
know why Ya is acting like this is like he's like,
Kim is wrong, you know in this situation, Like I
get it. You want to take up for Diddy or whatever.
But you can do that, you know, on your own

(15:35):
platform and do it the way you want to do it,
but don't drag the children into it.

Speaker 5 (15:39):
The children are innocent, man, Lead the kids out of it. Yeah,
you should. You know better than that.

Speaker 1 (15:43):
Yep.

Speaker 2 (15:44):
And that's what I mean by what Kanye's doing right now.
It's not the oh, I'm going through something that's a
tough time. No, everything he's been doing has been on purpose.
Y'all ain't noticed that he's been doing this stuff on
It's like, how can I agitate people? What's the best
way to get a response? This man just went on
a whole rant about Drake before all that. You remember

(16:06):
how he hated Drake and he was talking about Drake.
Now he's switching that and going on a whole rent
against Kendrick right now.

Speaker 1 (16:12):
Yep.

Speaker 5 (16:12):
So whoever on top is who he ain't want to
go after.

Speaker 2 (16:15):
He's just trying to evoke emotion and he's it and
it's starting to get played out and it's getting corny.

Speaker 5 (16:20):
And this is I hate to say.

Speaker 2 (16:21):
I'm one of your biggest fans, hey, I'm one of
the people who ride with you to the end.

Speaker 5 (16:25):
But you you losing me.

Speaker 4 (16:28):
Yeah, he's doing I mean, it's very corny, all the
stuff he's doing. And I, like you said, at first,
I was like, oh, you know, he misses Mama. You
know what I'm saying, He missus granny, and you know
it's hard for a black man. But now it's he
didn't done, He didn't. He has done so many things
that I just can't. There's no way to defend it,
you know what I'm saying. And like you said, it's
very calculated, you know what I'm saying. So you can't

(16:49):
even give the excuse of mental health or something like that,
like this is all very intentional and very calculated. And
I just thinking, in a Trump America, we're not worried
about you. We got a lot, a lot of bigger
things to worry about. We got big, real problems to
worry about and to be thinking about. And right now,
no matter what you do, whatever antique pull, it is

(17:10):
not gonna rock the world like it used to.

Speaker 3 (17:12):
When you was back.

Speaker 4 (17:13):
Saying you know, slavery was a choice, and you got
on TV and said, George Bush on like black people,
and you did all the things you've done before that
have really shook the culture. We shook for real now,
so we ain't got time to be worried about what
Kanye is doing. So I wish he would find another
angle and maybe put his efforts into some creativity and
some music that could.

Speaker 2 (17:33):
Really be too talented to that, Yeah, to reach like this,
he too talented for that.

Speaker 1 (17:37):
Like yeah, he playing what he's doing is you playing around?
And he gonna find out. And I keep trying to
explain to him, Explain to anybody you got kids, bro,
It ain't even about what you're doing to yourself or
what you his number one fan and all the you know,
all of us have been fans forever. It's about, bro,
what you're doing to your kids. You know what I mean.

(17:59):
You don't know what your son thinking. You don't know
what your daughter's thinking. You don't know what they got
going on in their head when they see they dad
constantly getting drug across the media, they got the internet.
It ain't nothing you can keep from your kids. Now,
they'll pop on that tablet. They know who their daddy is.
They know they know who their momy is. They're very
aware of that. And you know, and I don't give
a care what you're talking about rich kids, poor kids,

(18:24):
middle class kids. Kids are mean all across the world. Yes,
they are mean, and you have you putting your kids
amongst their peers in a wild position, in a wild position,
you should be caring about that, Like when that's the
purpose when you have In my opinion, when you have kids,
you thinking about somebody outside of yourself. And I think

(18:45):
right now, the behavior right now is still yay over everything,
And I don't think that's That's what I.

Speaker 5 (18:50):
Think having kids is an overrated experience.

Speaker 3 (18:52):
Who talk about is that? Talk about it?

Speaker 2 (18:55):
Because when you said that's the reason you have kids,
and then I thought about it, I was like, well.

Speaker 1 (18:59):
I mean it's the reasons, please, because.

Speaker 2 (19:05):
I think that's something that we need to discuss in
our community. Why are we having children? Why a lot
of people feel this way, but they will never admit it.

Speaker 3 (19:12):
So I love to hear what you have to say
about this.

Speaker 2 (19:15):
Once you get them here, you love them, right, you
love them and you couldn't see your life without them
because they're here.

Speaker 5 (19:23):
But before, why are they here? Does that make sense?

Speaker 2 (19:28):
Like that's why God made them so cute and small,
because he knew they.

Speaker 5 (19:33):
Would you would love them immediately and then they.

Speaker 2 (19:35):
Just you know, they become a part of you and
you love them, you when you want to protect them,
and they just oh, you know what I'm saying. And
if you don't think about it, if you got kids
at ten, they came out at ten, oh, you never
went through that back. You wouldn't even want me. You'd
be like, the hell with these kids. You'd be like,
I'm not dealing with this. You have to get them
from a young age and see them grow and love
them first.

Speaker 1 (19:59):
No way I want to in this room completely lost
when you overhead, yes, he said, y'all both said like
y'all been chewing on tree bark for crying. What are
y'all saying? What type of psychedelics are y'all saying?

Speaker 3 (20:15):
That is being honest. Kids are meant ten.

Speaker 1 (20:18):
Years are mean? Kids are meaning kids. But I'm saying no,
you have kids for all types of reasons. But my
thing is.

Speaker 5 (20:27):
Why we need to start to say them, why do
you have them?

Speaker 1 (20:32):
Because sometimes people want kids, they.

Speaker 5 (20:34):
Want why other than you want them?

Speaker 1 (20:37):
Zach, what are you talking about? I'm not going to
go into this typer conversation.

Speaker 3 (20:41):
Be honest, Why do we have kids? Conversation.

Speaker 2 (20:45):
People need to be honest about it because a lot
of people have kids.

Speaker 3 (20:48):
They don't even be liking it.

Speaker 2 (20:49):
Not about your kids. The thing about when you talk
about kids, most people talk about I'm being when you
when you talk about kids, people talk about their kids.
So when you start thinking about kids, you start thinking
about your kids, and then what comes in that love
that you have for them comes in, and love clouds everything.
What I'm trying to do is I'm trying to get
us to think before the love, what makes you have kids?

(21:12):
Because you're like, I want another version myself. I want
to see so it's about you. I want another version
of me.

Speaker 3 (21:18):
The world needs more to the world needs more.

Speaker 5 (21:20):
Meaty, So we have kids. We'll be like, the world
needs more meat Let me have another me.

Speaker 3 (21:28):
So we have so we have.

Speaker 5 (21:29):
Kids running around.

Speaker 1 (21:32):
Reason you got three that I love and I just
gave it. I gave the world. I gave you all
some gems. Bro, My daughter already got food. Look at that,
she twenty five, twenty five, and she look at this.
I gave you the fans. That's that's I gave the
world one of them.

Speaker 5 (21:52):
About you?

Speaker 3 (21:52):
Why did you have Why did you decide to have
a child.

Speaker 5 (21:55):
I was in love and all that. You know what
I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (21:58):
To see that, and that's why I had it, because
you in love exactly, and you and you talk that
that's the thing you do when you're in love exactly,
you'd be like, oh, when you're in love, you should
have a child.

Speaker 3 (22:07):
Who said that? I don't know why? Why can't you
just be in love and be in love?

Speaker 2 (22:16):
I just want to know why we were like, you
know what, we need another person here. I mean, I'm
so happy that I'm so I love my son to death.
But what I'm trying to say is you're not having
any more kids.

Speaker 1 (22:27):
No, I would have another one. I would have another kid.
Why would you have another kid? I don't know.

Speaker 3 (22:32):
See, that's what I'm saying. They don't know.

Speaker 1 (22:35):
That's what I'm trying to at least I'm admitting it.

Speaker 5 (22:38):
I'm admitting that I don't know why.

Speaker 1 (22:40):
Because it's it's a part of human existence to want
to continue your legacy. It's a part. It's built into
our DNA to pro create.

Speaker 2 (22:48):
So let me take on another responsibility, the whole human
of a whole not like a human though it is
so cool it depends on you.

Speaker 3 (22:59):
It's cool when.

Speaker 2 (23:01):
It's Yeah, it's cool cool once you get started.

Speaker 1 (23:04):
But I'm talking about before the step, before you get started.
It's fun to make them.

Speaker 5 (23:11):
Now you onto something now.

Speaker 1 (23:15):
Of making it, it's really fun.

Speaker 2 (23:17):
That is why we have and that's probably why we
have kids. Because unprotected sex is great. Yeah, condom sex
is turkey bacon.

Speaker 1 (23:28):
If you get that.

Speaker 3 (23:29):
I'm not gonna say that. I'm not gonna get it's
good like that, Pope. People need to have.

Speaker 1 (23:35):
The things get the thing was? Those are the.

Speaker 2 (23:42):
Movie he always fashion. Now you're trying to tell you
in the cold to get the thin one.

Speaker 3 (23:48):
What does that mean?

Speaker 5 (23:49):
He mean condoms?

Speaker 2 (23:50):
I thought he meant time you say something outside about.

Speaker 1 (23:58):
Saying I told you it was.

Speaker 3 (24:07):
You get that? Thing's like around that.

Speaker 1 (24:11):
With me?

Speaker 3 (24:12):
Yeah, I like turkey bacon and thin win total. Now
I don't like nothing.

Speaker 1 (24:25):
Okay, all right, let's get to this. Every Mackie says
the American mail is dead and they killed masculinity in homes.
Do you agree anything? What y'all got to say?

Speaker 4 (24:38):
I didn't hear you because Ryan was and I'm not
gonna lie. You got out of that or over that
in that corner where I can't see you distracting health.

Speaker 3 (24:48):
Yeah, like I know what y'all do up in the morning.
We're not doing that up in here, so get it
together over there.

Speaker 2 (24:55):
Yes, I mean the topic is introduced to, the pot
is supposed to. I'm sorry, I didn't know what. I
don't trust neither one of them. So I'm grabbing my
purse because they bus It looks like they're stealing. I
don't know because over my morning show we don't do
all that, you know, so I don't know what's going on.

Speaker 3 (25:15):
Now what you ask it for?

Speaker 1 (25:17):
For the here it is again, they weren't listening. Aftery back,
he says the American mail is dead and they killed
masculinity in homes. Do you agree?

Speaker 3 (25:27):
Oh that's deed, that's deed, Tom.

Speaker 1 (25:32):
Ahead, go ahead, as deep.

Speaker 4 (25:37):
I'm really not.

Speaker 3 (25:38):
Because the way you just read that.

Speaker 4 (25:41):
I want to agree with him and on a certain extent,
but I'm scared to agree with Anthony Mecki because I
heard he's so mean. So I'm like, you know what
I'm saying, I'm taking I'm hesitant on saying it. But
the way you say that they have killed masculinity and homes,
if we look back.

Speaker 3 (25:57):
Zach, I'm not I'm not trying to be deep, but
you take us back.

Speaker 4 (26:06):
I'm not trying to be deep, but I'm you know,
there has been you know, the black male in the
home has not always been present and not always by choice.
A lot of it is circumstances and the way that
you know, we were set up after we were released
from slavery, and so I think when you look over

(26:27):
the course of from slavery to now, yeah, masculinity in
the home has been something that has not been heavily
promoted in our community. And I'll just leave it at that.

Speaker 1 (26:42):
What you think I mean, I think I'm I'm gonna
go with it, just because of the single parent first
of all, single parent households, and just circumstances, how things happen, whatever.
I think a lot of times, I think me and
my boys talked about this before we just just shooting
and ship it came up with it. Like you think
about it. If you don't have a mail in your house,

(27:04):
your homies are raising you, teach you how to be
a man, or your friend's father's you know, they tell
me you hearing what they dad, it's mad at and
that I mean, I'm speaking even for myself or some
of my boys, Like okay, because I remember my best
friend's father would say, like he'd be like, man, he
like you you're a teenager. Don't walk out your house
without some money in your pocket. And I'm like, damn,

(27:26):
I ain't never heard that, Like I gotta get some
money in my pocket, because he's like, that's you a guy.
Guy's always supposed to have some money on the in
they pocket. You never know when it's something gonna go wrong.
And that's just a human thing anyway as well. So
you used to start learning and how you think a lot,
and you can always tell like when you got guys
and I think exact, man, I agree with this. That
never really hung around other men, so they don't understand

(27:48):
guide cold, so to speak. So you're or they or
their guide cold. It's different because of the type of
dudes that they hung around. So like I you know,
our fellas we hang around, you don't do this, you
don't do that, we don't do this, And you follow
that kind of guideline because your group of guys you
came up with teach you how to do it. And
then then I think on the last part of it

(28:08):
is that, you know, I've been accused of it, but
it's been from the female members of my family and stuff,
and now they understand it when I'm like, yo, I'm
when I talk about my son, like why are you tough?
Or you say certain things and you're teaching them certain things.
I like, cause he's a dude, y'all are talking for
Ain't nobody coming to save this dude. Nobody. He cannot

(28:31):
be trying to come up, trying to figure it out.
Pretty girl privilege, all of that. All because the women
in my family are attractive, you gonna have some pretty
girl privilege. They're gonna people gonna look out for him.
You a man, bro, Ain't nobody looking out for you?
Ain't you a black man? So I think those out
of I think some of the things that might have
gotten watered down along the way.

Speaker 3 (28:52):
And even then, I.

Speaker 4 (28:53):
Feel like mothers sometimes not just mothers, but parents sometimes
can coddle their boys. And I think a lot of
men are not being taught how to be men, but
instead women are being taught how to.

Speaker 3 (29:08):
Be women. But also never need a man, right, you
know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (29:13):
So I'm I'm trying to be careful with my words
because I want to make sure it comes through clearly.
Like I feel like a lot of like growing up
in your house maybe, and I know in my house,
my sister was a lot more strict on me than
she was on the boys because it was like and
she raised us, so she was like, you know, they
can have girls stay over early at an early age.
You know, she was helping my brother, you know what
I'm saying, with his girlfriend and stuff. But it was like,

(29:34):
you can never do that because you're a girl. But
I feel like boys need to be held to the
same type of standards, and a lot of our boys
are not being raised to be husbands. They're not being
raised to be providers. They're not being raised to you know.
It's unfortunate, but that's the truth. And that's why you
see a lot of women going on being successful, being
independent and not not even knowing how to coexist with

(29:55):
a partner or a man because our boys are not
being raised to do I.

Speaker 1 (30:01):
Think I think that is I think I agree with you.
I think the independence part of it, I think they're
not you know what I mean, Like your mama tell you, hey,
you want some money, you figure out, Hey, I feel itself.
Get some gas. Now you got cut some grass. Go
see if people want to get their grass cut. Go
see if somebody need snow fall. Go see if there's
somebody need their driveway shovel. You know what I mean.

(30:24):
You think about it like you know you want Mike,
You want Mike's. I can't get you, George, I just can't.
I can't go get you a part time job and
figure it out. You was kind of forced at least
I was a certain and I believe this other guy
you was forced to kind of figure it out. And
those lessons transcend throughout your life. When you you want something,

(30:45):
you figure it out. And I think I think women
like you said, because you see way more. And it's
just like when I when I I look at it,
you see way more Black women up, way more. You
just see them. They up.

Speaker 2 (31:00):
Lot of our fathers, a lot of not mine, faar.
I grew up in the house with a father, but
it's like a lot of people's fathers were not in
the home. And not to go deep, but when you
look at the welfare situation that we a lot of
us grew up on, because that's, you know, what we
needed it was encouraged that, like, if you had a
man in a house, you couldn't get you couldn't get
food stamps, you couldn't get welfare. So it's like, even

(31:21):
if there was a father that wanted to be present,
he couldn't fully be in that house because they needed
the government assistant and the government was not trying to
assist if there was a black man in the house.

Speaker 3 (31:30):
It's that's crazy.

Speaker 2 (31:31):
It's just I'm torn on this topic because I think
there's two different topics that were discussing right now, and
it all falls under the umbrella masculinity. So I look
at it like this, you've got masculinity that I think
Anthony Mackie is talking about is more of like leading
and teaching your sons and teaching young men, you know,

(31:52):
being a leader or whatever. I agree with that percent,
and I feel like that was purposely taken out of
our homes through systemic exact depression. Okay, that's what I
think he's talking about. But then there's another side of
masculinity that I think needed to be destroyed, which was
the toxic side of masculinity absolutely where it comes with men,

(32:14):
where we're like, oh, men, don't cry. You don't do
this as a man. You act like this, and I
think that is toxic and damaging, and then you end
up with these damaged boys walking around because they think
they can't cry, they can't do nothing, They don't know
what to do with their emotions, even though they have emotions.
So that's why I get torn on this conversation because
I see it both ways. I see the way masculinity

(32:35):
was taken out of our home systemically, but then I
also see how what was called masculinity and being a man,
which it really wasn't, you know what I'm saying, being
this tough, macho, ego driven person, and that's what you
see in the streets, and that's why you see dudes
killing each other over.

Speaker 5 (32:53):
A color or sign, because that's toxic masculinity.

Speaker 1 (32:57):
It's my block on either one. I'm on it, you
know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (33:00):
And we sitting here arguing about shooting each other, killing
each other over absolutely nothing, you know what I'm saying.
I think that's a toxic way of it. So it's just,
you know, I think it's a fine line. But I
do give our generation and millennials, the boomers over there,
but us millennial dads I see are way more present.

(33:25):
They are definitely doing things even if the relationship don't work.
As you know, like we go through the ends for
our children. You know what I'm saying. I sell more
with our general than our parents, than the people who
raised us. I feel like we're getting better at that.
And we see even guys who don't have fathers. I
see guys who don't have fathers being fathers. You didn't
have one or didn't have an example of that, But

(33:48):
like you say, it takes. Don't think that you don't
know how to be a father. Fellas if just because
you didn't have one, if you had coaches and you
had uncles, or you had different types of positive men
in your life, you learn different things from them, and
you can instill that to your child.

Speaker 5 (34:00):
Because one thing.

Speaker 2 (34:01):
About it, a dad being there is just existing, exist,
just existing. You ain't gotta have no lessons, You ain't
gotta have no cool sayings. You ain't gotta take a
dad being there a child being able to say that
gon my dad, ye means a lot.

Speaker 5 (34:19):
And don't think that you're just you know, your presence,
just your presence.

Speaker 2 (34:23):
But you know what I'm saying, it's so much that
comes with being a man that you get, especially if
you got kids. You know what I'm saying, You walking
with your kid down the street, your kid just feels
more free and safe, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 5 (34:32):
And they would if they were just walking with their mom.
Y'all just going down the street.

Speaker 2 (34:35):
You know what I'm saying. You didn't do nothing special,
but it's just something that comes with that.

Speaker 1 (34:39):
And that's why I say when I was saying before,
when people you hear that the quarter, it's funny, I'm
looking for a stepdaddy and all of the different things.
But I said, like, I know firsthand what it could
do if you're putting different people in front of your
kid's face, especially at a young age, until they've had
a chance to really have a solid, strong relations and

(35:00):
ship with their father. If you and if the father
wants to. This is because I know first thing, somebody,
what if he don't want to, then don't be bothered
with him. You are jerk. But I'm saying with somebody
that you gotta you could call him, he gonna pull up.
Y'all got a good relationship whatever, but you're putting your
putting other men in my kids face when they two,
and they three and they four, and not only in

(35:22):
their face, but they waking up with them. So if
builds a false sense of home, they're waking up with
them in the same household with them, sitting down, eating
breakfast with them, dinner with them. That that fogs. And
then the first thing people want to say is, well,
if you want to be around your kids, you would
have made it work for you with your with your
baby mama. What if she's a kid, or what if

(35:44):
or what if being or both of us being around
each other turns us both into the kids, right And
we can't and we can't even stand each other the
sight of each other's face, so we so we should
be both put up with that in fortunately, so it's
it's a lot. I just that's the one thing that
I that I will say because I've seen it first hand,

(36:07):
and I've seen it firsthand. When you introduce another man
into your child's life, or if you got your child,
if you a guy and you introduce another woman into
your child's life, it will mess up their relationship with
their mama. You should not be doing that when they're young.
It just will skew it.

Speaker 4 (36:28):
Not unless they are the husband or wife or staying
like it's a it's a relationship that.

Speaker 1 (36:35):
It was a husband and wife. Unfortunately, and I know
that my baby, Trinity's mama got married right away. I
won't go into that one. She got married right away.
And Trinity even said, and I was around Trinity a
lot for her to be out of state, like spending
entire submerge with me every other holiday and and never

(36:56):
played and mama never played with none of my visitation
even and I would just pop out there sometimes. She
never played with it. But even at that point, Trinity
still says, she's like, it was hard for me, And
she says, a grown woman, it was hard for me
to kind of like, Okay, he here with me every day,
but I know this is my dad, and it's like

(37:18):
it's hard for me to figure it out who's like,
who am I like really locked in with. So that's
why I'm saying, when you introduce those new people, it's tough.

Speaker 3 (37:26):
Yeah, I mean, I've been with you on that.

Speaker 4 (37:28):
Like my parents, you know, they was to separate when
no other man coming up and in and out of
my mama house, none of that.

Speaker 3 (37:34):
So I'm totally with you on that.

Speaker 4 (37:36):
I'm just I don't want to give step parents a
bad name, because if you find a good partner that
wants to be like Russell Wilson, that want to be
there for your kids, then he has established hisself, he
has earned the trust of your trust, your kids trust,
and it's.

Speaker 3 (37:49):
Okay to.

Speaker 2 (37:51):
Be dated again. Yeah, you know what I'm saying. You
can't just tell your baby mama because we ain't together. King,
nobody ever come in my child life. That's what happens
when you split up and different examps.

Speaker 1 (38:00):
I don't agree with it. I think it wait.

Speaker 2 (38:02):
I can wait when they're that young, it can wait.
Like I've seen different wait for me. I've seen different
examples where it all turns out to be a good
thing and a positive thing. I've actually seen more examples
of saying not a woman dating somebody else or man
dating somebody else, but when they locked in, I've seen

(38:22):
more examples of the stepfather actually being the role model
or the stepmother being actual, actual positive influence in the
kids life. I just think that it has to be
done right, Like I think it has to be done
without hiding. I think it needs to be done without
with everybody seeing everybody get along. A lot of times

(38:45):
the confusion comes in, I believe, is when adults are
confused and adults aren't talking. A kid doesn't can only
sense when something's wrong, and they can con sense when
something's wrong through the adults. But we don't know norms,
you know what I'm saying. A child, especially a young child,
doesn't know what's normal or what's not normal, or what
this view of things is. It's that's what we do.

(39:06):
That's what we do to them. So if I see
if I see my stepdad and my dad shooting basketball outside,
and I'm a young kid and I see them getting
along and smiling and everybody happy, and this is I'm
not gonna feel slighted. That's my dad, that's Chuck, and
that's my mom. Chuck' still live with my mom. When
I go to my dad's house, this is this friend.

(39:26):
Everybody gets along, we go Christmas and everybody got gifts.

Speaker 1 (39:29):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (39:30):
That person can grow up with a sense of community
opposed to a sense of like, oh, I feel away
now if every time Chuck see my dad is a thing,
or they talking shit about them, or this person saying something,
Now the kid is experiencing trauma because they like.

Speaker 1 (39:46):
Ah, who's right, who's wrong?

Speaker 3 (39:47):
Who do I love?

Speaker 1 (39:48):
Blah da da dah.

Speaker 2 (39:49):
I think that comes more from the parents than just
having another But what about this that you've experienced this
you will see it. I think we've all probably seen it.

Speaker 1 (40:00):
It is where it's where the new person trumps the
dad because he's he's he's around all the time. So
now they're trying to build a pseudo family and and
and so it's dad's weekend. Now we're planning were planning
to go to the Great America. Sorry you skipped it.
Now you skip it. We got this going on now

(40:21):
you skip Now you instead of seeing like your normal schedule.
Now then now they got down there once a month,
Because now.

Speaker 2 (40:28):
That should be I think that should be handled. The
child shouldn't even know about the the.

Speaker 1 (40:32):
Child that was gonna know about it. But I'm saying
you've seen it the child people.

Speaker 2 (40:36):
Because if you're saying, if they having that conversation in
front of the child, and the child hears, no, he
can't go we going here, that's the that's what the
child shouldn't hear.

Speaker 5 (40:47):
That's the issue.

Speaker 2 (40:48):
It shouldn't. The child should never hear that conversation. Child
should get directions. The child should hear from there. Yeah,
it does happen, for sure, but the child should hear
from their dad, mom and stepdad that they either going
or they ain't. And it should all be one unified front.
And if it's all you, the one unified front, it
can be fine, yes, but if it's not, that's where

(41:08):
you start. That's where the child is confused.

Speaker 1 (41:11):
I've seen it on when somebody is playing with it
doing that way, where they become that situation, the new situation.
Trump's your normal routine. Yeah, I c and I've been
in a situation where a they don't play with my
normal routine, they don't play and it's and it's and
the one where they did not play with my normal

(41:33):
routine no matter what they had going on, is there.
It's the more successful situation, right.

Speaker 4 (41:39):
And so the issues that that child will develop from
their relate from the mother playing with with whoever. You
know what I'm saying, those are that's on the mother's part.
That's completely on the parent that moved on. And if
they want to start playing games with their new partner
and telling them and discrediting the birth father. That's on
the mother that your child may feel issues from that
because you play those games. And that's why when you

(41:59):
leave a home, when a couple breaks up after having
a child, y'all have to both agree to put the
child first, take your feelings out of it, take all that.
Everybody got to be mature and come together and agree,
Like you know, there's no way the man should have
the new man should have came into the relationship and
wanted to play on your top. He should come in
and want to give you nothing but respect and gratitude
if he truly loves that child, you know.

Speaker 3 (42:20):
What I'm saying. That's why I hate when women get
with men who have kids and.

Speaker 4 (42:24):
You come into the relationship thinking you're finna play on
his baby mama top, Like, no, that's that's that's their mother.
You should come in ready to offer them for respect.
And as the mother, you may not like that your
partner moved on, but you also got to put your
feelings aside and come into the situation and be a
leader and be and be respectful of every the new situation.
So it's all about putting the kids first. And I

(42:46):
think when we when both parties agree to do that,
it can be a successful situation.

Speaker 1 (42:51):
I love that. I love that. Say that, I love that.
Let's put on. Also to Anthony Mack, he said something
and we don't have to stay too long on this one,
but he also said success is given, it's not earned.
So he was like he sees basically like, yo, I
see people in Hollywood. They act, and they've been acting
their whole life, and then they meet the right person

(43:13):
and then now they bla. He was like, I've been acting,
I've been doing the Broadway shows, I've been doing this,
and I met the right person. Now I'm Captain of America.
So what do you think about that?

Speaker 4 (43:24):
It's a mixture of both. I won't I won't say.
You know, it's not completely given. You gotta have because
you can be given the opportunity. Once you get it,
you gotta show up, and if you can't show up,
it won't last long. We've seen it with people getting
record deals.

Speaker 3 (43:36):
We've seen it.

Speaker 4 (43:37):
They come out, they do something viral, they get a
record deal. After that song is done, it's overweight because
you couldn't you couldn't rise to the occasion. And that's
where I kind of feel comforted even in all of us.
Like you know, we may meet somebody and get a
great opportunity, or have a friend in a high place
and get a great opportunity. But the true test is
if I can sustain where I'm at, you know what

(43:58):
I'm saying. So, yeah, if I knew somebody, if I
wish Oprah was my auntie, you know what I'm saying.
But if Oprah gave me a show on the own network,
if I don't have any.

Speaker 3 (44:07):
Talent, it ain't gonna last. So that's why I think
he was what he said.

Speaker 4 (44:11):
It is true to some aspect, but it's nothing to
get worked up about, because at the end of the day,
the cream gonna rise to the top and everybody else
gonna It's like everything done in the dark, it will
come to light. The lights are gonna come on. And
if you if you don't have the talent and you
can't perform, it's gonna it's gonna read that. So when
you when you taken opportunities knowing that you're not prepared
for him, just know the repercussion after that, it's very

(44:32):
hard to come back for because once we see you,
once you get that first impression and you don't show
up to it, to the occasion, we're gonna look at
you like a clown, like look at I hate to
bring him up, but Jello y'all was like, the songs
are hit and then he started performing at all stun
and y'all like, what the hell is this?

Speaker 3 (44:48):
I think you never forget those first impressions.

Speaker 2 (44:50):
I think what Mackie was talking about, though, was once
you're past that level where everybody's talented, when you get
into the rooms where everybody's talented, he was saying that
you talented on to you talented, you talented, you talented.

Speaker 5 (45:01):
Black and only take one. And he was saying I
think he was saying, like, it's.

Speaker 3 (45:05):
Given, but you can't give me nothing. If I have
the talent for it, I deserve it.

Speaker 2 (45:08):
I earned it right. But he's saying, you're picked. It's
more what he said, but he said in the clip
was that you're picked. Okay, you know what I'm saying.
I can't get mad at that, which is fine, so
it does. I agree with him in that sense. But
on the other hand of things where you talk about this,
I don't like when we when we put success as

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being on television or success is being Captain America or
a success?

Speaker 5 (45:36):
You don't what is success because objective to everybody objective.
So when you say when.

Speaker 1 (45:41):
He's Captain of America is kind of successful.

Speaker 2 (45:44):
You know what I'm saying when you're saying he's successful,
but Captain America but so, but but being Carrius Johnson
ain't being successful?

Speaker 5 (45:56):
Yes, it is that success.

Speaker 2 (45:59):
I'm just very could come. I mean, I get what
you're saying. But it's success, success and success, you know
what I'm saying. Like somebody like I, there's levels to success.
It is level No, it's levels to fame and money.

Speaker 1 (46:13):
Yes, the success is a part of fame and money.
That's all.

Speaker 2 (46:16):
The success is your successes. That's what we disagree. Success
is your mentality. Success is what you think. Do you
think you successful?

Speaker 1 (46:23):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (46:24):
I think I think I'm successful. But if Oprah walk
up with our bank accounts, she would probably think she
was unsuccessful and something went wrong.

Speaker 5 (46:30):
Exactly, but you're successful.

Speaker 4 (46:33):
He.

Speaker 1 (46:37):
Would be up.

Speaker 2 (46:38):
She wouldn't be able to get out of bed with
our bank accounts. But we think we're successful. So that
tells me that success isn't necessarily a thing. Success is
a mentality level.

Speaker 1 (46:50):
It's levels. You just saying that, but you just said
that you feel successful? Is I feel successful at my level?
I feel success? Does this somebody that it's somebody that
just got their first first college radio station and they
just successful and they successful. But if so, let's go
back to what Mackie just said. Mackie said, people were picked.

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I'm taking it back to what Mackie said.

Speaker 2 (47:13):
Mackie said, people were picked and only certain people are
going to be successful. And that's why I disagree with him,
because you don't know what people's level of success is
and what they even want and what they deem successful.
If you're talking about Hollywood, then yes, only some are picked.
The most talented might not even be picked. But that's
in but that's in every that's in every genre, which

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you can't say that somebody else is less successful. And
what he was trying to do was say that with
that whole clip, bringing context to that clip. What he
was saying is that we're lying to kids.

Speaker 5 (47:44):
That's what he said.

Speaker 2 (47:45):
He said, we're lying to our kids and telling them
that if they work hard, they'll be successful.

Speaker 5 (47:49):
And they that that people are And I disagree because.

Speaker 1 (47:55):
Let me say this, I do the hard work. That
hard work the point of the clip. The hard work
you tell your kids, the hard work you become successful.
I truly believe. And yes, you do get picked. But
the hard work puts you in the room to get picked.
And so the hard work puts you in the room
with all the other hard working, talented people. And now

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that's where okay, maybe the uh you're being able to
have a great conversation with somebody or they just like
you a likable person. That's what it starts, weeding people
out of it. But if the hard work gets you
into the room to get picked, that's what I'm And
so when he said that, I was just like, now
I'm not lying to my kid. By telling hard work,
you immediately get rid of the lazy people. You immediately separate,

(48:43):
separate yourself from a lazy talented people. And now you
start to put yourself into the room of the talented,
hard working people. And that's what the picking happens.

Speaker 5 (48:50):
Can you why you say you agree with that?

Speaker 4 (48:52):
I don't remember, because I didn't agree with so much
suff today. All right, but what I like it where
tone is going?

Speaker 1 (48:59):
Because he said what you say, I just said the
hard work with you in the room.

Speaker 3 (49:03):
With all the other times the hard work puts you
in the room.

Speaker 5 (49:06):
Don't worry about that. Don't worry about.

Speaker 3 (49:10):
If Johnny had two.

Speaker 6 (49:11):
Apples, Jesus could she started doing this. Can get on
the edge and put her hands up. She don't know
what's going on. What I say said okay, okay, so
so what you say.

Speaker 1 (49:23):
I said, hard work, But.

Speaker 5 (49:27):
Don't next topic, Let's talk about something else.

Speaker 3 (49:31):
I agree with you.

Speaker 4 (49:32):
I mean all I know, and I work hard. Okay,
I work on it worked out for me. Get your
ass up and do some work. Stop all that think
you're supposed to get something and it's supposed to be
given to you.

Speaker 3 (49:47):
Got to do some work. No nobody want to talk
to you if you ain't doing the work. Okay, that's
what I want to say.

Speaker 1 (49:52):
That is true. That is the fact. And I do
like what you say. If we see people get TV shows,
podcast deals, all types of stuff, if you don't show
up when they give it to you, it's not happening
for you.

Speaker 4 (50:04):
And you have to be honest with your kids. I
think too, and tell them though it's more to hard work,
because I ain't gonna lie. I wanted them people that thought,
if I just work hard, it's gonna happen. Somebody's gonna
look and say, she works hard, she deserves it.

Speaker 3 (50:19):
That's not the case.

Speaker 1 (50:20):
That's not the case.

Speaker 3 (50:21):
You have to ask for what you want.

Speaker 2 (50:24):
But when you ask, please have the hard work there
that people can reference back to. Yes, because you look
like a fool when you ask for stuff that you
haven't earned.

Speaker 4 (50:34):
And I think so, I think honestly, that's why I
was confused, because you need to add both pieces.

Speaker 3 (50:39):
You could tell your kids to work hard, but work
working hardest.

Speaker 4 (50:42):
There's a lot of people working hard that's been working
for forty years in the same position because they never
opened their mouth and ask for more.

Speaker 3 (50:48):
I had that real bad, like real bad.

Speaker 4 (50:50):
Like if I just sit here and look pretty and
work hard and then work my ass off, somebody's gonna
give me something for sure, right because work, hard, work
gets it.

Speaker 3 (50:57):
No, you have to ask.

Speaker 4 (50:58):
It's a lot of people that are way less qualified
and less talented than you that are asking for stuff
they ain't got no business asking for. So my advice
is doe to work, but also advocate for yourself. And
when you advocate for yourself, have the credentials to be
asking for the stuff you're asking for, so that you
don't get opportunities that make everybody look at you like
you delutionional but asking for I.

Speaker 1 (51:20):
Should tell my boss all the time, my first boss
at radio, Hey, I don't want to keep pushing buttons.
Got my whole career. I'm not pushing my but I'm
not pushing, but I gotta talk. I gotta be a radio.
And while I was saying it, I was practicing and
also preparing to say, hey, if you ain't gonna give
me an opportunity, I'm putting stuff out here because I'm

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getting this opportunity.

Speaker 4 (51:42):
And people leaders know that leaders can look around the
room and say and see that person is a hard worker,
but they haven't advocated for theirselfs, So maybe they happy
just pushing buttons. But when you speak up and say
I want to do more, then that's when they look
at the work that you've put in, and good for
all of us, we have put that work in.

Speaker 3 (52:00):
But if you don't have the work, then you just
look chrazy.

Speaker 2 (52:01):
So here's the thing that I learned very early, and
I think that helped me through life. And I don't
want to teach this to y'all real quick. Nobody gives
a damn about what you got going on. So in
Key's example where she said, I just gonna come to
work and if I work hard, I'm gonna do that,
ain't nobody sitting in their meeting.

Speaker 1 (52:22):
I wonder what Kiki want to do.

Speaker 2 (52:24):
I'm pretty sure that she wants more and she would
like to do this and do that, because guess what,
they're doing their work too. So everybody lives in their
own world, but a lot of times we think that
everybody sees us like we see ourselves, and we think
everything is personal. That's why I don't get mad when
people do stuff. It feels like I don't give a
damn because I know you mad it has to do

(52:47):
with you. Ain't gonna do with me about me that
much to be mad at me, And for real, you
know it's something that got to do. Something I said
or something that happened triggered you to react this way
that ain't got nothing to do with me, And I
know it don't cause you don't think about me like
that because it's you and your world, and that's what
we have to realize. That's why we can't get emotional,
overly emotional about anything.

Speaker 1 (53:06):
You can get.

Speaker 2 (53:07):
Overlea this and overly that, because no body decay.

Speaker 3 (53:11):
We are trying to clock out.

Speaker 2 (53:12):
Everybody's going to everybody has their routine, and everybody's doing that.

Speaker 5 (53:17):
There's the same thing.

Speaker 2 (53:18):
Everybody's trying to figure out the same twenty four okay,
and then once you figure that out, then you be like, oh,
so to move up, I have to actually say something
to the people who can actually make something happen for me,
and then give them a reason to want to do
that for you know, for you to be its be
mad if they say no, you gotta have They say,
you gotta have the hard work, and you gotta advocate.

(53:41):
If you don't have, you gotta know somebody, You gotta network,
you gotta get in these rooms. If you don't know,
you know what I'm saying, If you just work, if
you so in the sense of him saying, if you
just work hard, yeah, you probably not gonna get nowhere.
You're just gonna be a hard worker.

Speaker 5 (53:52):
Yeah, my uncle worked forty years your worker. Yeah, I'm
pretty sure he worked hard every day, right, shout out
to way harder me.

Speaker 3 (54:01):
It's a it's a it's a mix.

Speaker 1 (54:03):
Absolutely all right, before we get about it, here episodes
we got two hundred episodes. It's an educational two hundred
episodes we got on our soap boxes. But I would
like to say this podfam, listen, we get it important
out here in this podcast is space and media space.
I got cursed out by celebrity over last week.

Speaker 5 (54:31):
Are bringing it up.

Speaker 1 (54:32):
We cannot say who why, Let's play out of No,
and I guess no, No, we are not saying nothing,
but we got cursed out, but we mean and me, uh,
it was it was cool, It was a it was
an interesting conversation conversation about it. No, I don't want

(54:55):
to No, I don't want to talk about it, but
you know what I what I do know is that
we getting it, We're getting important. And then I do
like and when we have when people call me, I'm
gonna we're gonna have a very spirited debate about what's
going on.

Speaker 5 (55:12):
That's the way saying, don't piss me off.

Speaker 2 (55:15):
But I tell y'all, man, people gonna feel how they feel,
and that's how they have the right to feel how
they want to feel.

Speaker 5 (55:21):
Okay, and that gets what that change what we say but.

Speaker 1 (55:23):
I will want to say this out loud. I do
say this out loud. We don't ever question me about
how I do this. I've been doing this for a
very long time and making money at it. I'm a
professional personality. I don't do I don't know, I ain't
doing no. I don't got no deals, I don't got nothing.

(55:44):
I got this and they pay me to talk. Don't
ever question me. I've been doing this since you ask
your mama, can you go outside? That's really all I
want to say.

Speaker 4 (55:57):
That didn't really eat you, ain't really eating up friend
like you. That look, we got it, We gotta What
he wanted to say was, don't play on his top. Okay,
he talked with palm baby. You better ask about him
in these streets period.

Speaker 1 (56:09):
Okay, Hey, look I I when I'm talking about you,
I'm usually trying to turn, especially if i know you,
I try to turn the the angle away from you,
if that makes sense, and make it a joke and
have fun with it. I'm never trying to be malicious
and honestly man, like you said, we said the beginning
of the pod is after we finish these stories, we

(56:31):
don't get it at all.

Speaker 2 (56:35):
On to the next You know, I don't even remember
what I said, but you know that's my father thought. Yeah,
don't take it, don't take it personal.

Speaker 1 (56:45):
Don't take it.

Speaker 2 (56:45):
I don't got no edges when you go to bed.
If I ever said something about you at night like,
I don't have edges. So just know that that's why
I talk how reckless like that. So please don't get
upset with me because sorry, yep, Zach, I thought, well,
I thought that we were going to give an announcement
on this podcast.

Speaker 1 (57:05):
Damn for god, you maybe keep it sitting so long
I forgot.

Speaker 2 (57:10):
I thought we was giving a big two hundred episode announcement.

Speaker 5 (57:16):
But y'all want to just forget about it.

Speaker 1 (57:18):
No, it is time for the two hundredth episode.

Speaker 3 (57:20):
Come on, please, okay, tones getting married?

Speaker 5 (57:31):
You moved your camera, moved my camera?

Speaker 3 (57:33):
All right. The announcement is.

Speaker 1 (57:40):
We heard you.

Speaker 2 (57:42):
We've heard you, potfam, We've heard how you said you
wanted more? What more can I say? Podcast?

Speaker 5 (57:47):
And guess what?

Speaker 2 (57:48):
On the two hundredth episode, we want to announce that
we're here to deliver that. Not only will we be potting,
we are moving from potting once a week to now
three times a week.

Speaker 5 (58:00):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yes, this is for you guys.

Speaker 2 (58:06):
We will be potting on Mondays, Tuesdays and Wednesdays, giving
you three episodes or what more can I say podcast
a week.

Speaker 5 (58:14):
Make sure y'all share it, make sure y'all like it.

Speaker 2 (58:17):
But we've been seeing it and we've been wanting to
increase the volume for you guys, and we're happy to
do it.

Speaker 1 (58:22):
And then on.

Speaker 2 (58:22):
Thursdays you can always catch us on the Shade Room Live,
so you get us a lot. Okay, so things you
want to talk about, nothing's off limits, man, Like you
know what I'm saying, Send in what you want us
to talk about.

Speaker 5 (58:33):
And that's all I got to say. Man, I'm excited.
What you think?

Speaker 3 (58:36):
I'm excited? You know I am so excited.

Speaker 5 (58:39):
You are not excited? Excited? What about you?

Speaker 1 (58:42):
Ton? I'm excited, man, because the stuff that happened on
Monday or over the weekend, I don't have to wait
and you know, my short term memory messed up wait
to get it offs on Wednesday with y'all. So it's finally, man,
we get a chance to give everybody a pod every
day of the week pretty much for Friday, and y'all
all doing stuff anyway, so you could just go back

(59:03):
and rewatch some of the stuff that you missed.

Speaker 3 (59:05):
And it's not like the T shirts were really gonna do.

Speaker 2 (59:07):
This, right, We're really gonna do this, you know what
I'm saying. We've we've we've added to our team, we
have done the preparation. We have discussed this for weeks.
And y'all seen the flyer? Did they see it?

Speaker 1 (59:25):
Yeah? They saw the flying You didn't make a fly
did you? Okay? Because we got new pictures to a
whole vote on debuting the new picks, So what do
we do? So I think this is what we should do.
We should put the three We should put the three
or four picks up and let the pot vote on

(59:47):
on the on the on the picks that we're gonna
use for the promo, and hopefully y'all pick a good one,
because not we're just gonna use it, won't we want to?

Speaker 3 (59:56):
Maybe this is what you call the staff me there
and I love it. No idea is a bad idea, Tom.
So yes, we're gonna put up no prost.

Speaker 1 (01:00:08):
We're gonna fike the last graphy.

Speaker 3 (01:00:09):
We may have misspellings on it and a kind of stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:00:13):
I definitely not I'm telling because I mean I mean
off of edible making.

Speaker 3 (01:00:17):
Yeah, yeah, we learned we had a live tapping, live tapping.

Speaker 5 (01:00:22):
Yeah, you know, but yeah that was the news.

Speaker 2 (01:00:25):
Though. You know what I'm saying. How have we we
we presented to you. We did want you to know
that we are gonna be pining three times a week.
So Monday, Tuesday, Winday, expect way Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday expect
new content from the what more can I say?

Speaker 5 (01:00:38):
Podcast?

Speaker 3 (01:00:39):
Yeah, and watch it and like it.

Speaker 2 (01:00:42):
I'm gonna tell you, if y'all don't watch it, maybe
we're going back. We're going back to till we're going
back to one. Okay, so y'all better watch it. Ain't
doing all this work and y'all ain't gonna be watching
like four of you. Yeah, we get views we like.

Speaker 5 (01:00:57):
Nah, you know what, too much for him?

Speaker 1 (01:00:59):
Too much, too much, So thank you, y'all. All right,
we're wrapping it up. That was it for the two
hundred episode. Oh man, let's go to two oh one
and three hundred and four, one and five oh one.
Let's get to it's.

Speaker 3 (01:01:12):
Your favorite podcast memory?

Speaker 5 (01:01:15):
Oh man, it's so many.

Speaker 1 (01:01:18):
My favorite podcast memory.

Speaker 5 (01:01:19):
Yes, this whole thing, from this whole journey. Yes, well
from starting.

Speaker 2 (01:01:25):
It's just like I love going back sometimes and watching
us when we were on Zoom and then seeing like
how far we've come, and you know, how much chemistry
has grown and how we know each other so much
better than when we first started four or five four
years ago. That's crazy to me seeing that growth. I
really enjoyed. One of my highlights is when me saying

(01:01:49):
three piece oh together, the live, the live at the
live tapping.

Speaker 1 (01:01:54):
That was fun.

Speaker 2 (01:01:55):
The live events always you know, make me happy. And
then as far as like like tense stuff. I mean,
you gotta think when tone was Puerto Rican.

Speaker 3 (01:02:04):
I watched that the other day. The DNA results.

Speaker 2 (01:02:08):
Results episode is one of my favorites. I mean it's
a lot y'all broke friends.

Speaker 3 (01:02:15):
Broke friends took us up. Yeah you sure did on purpose?

Speaker 2 (01:02:21):
Yeah, Yeah, that was crazy. I think when we travel together,
it is the funniest thing I have ever seen. From
me sleeping at the airport at in Atlanta to zach.

Speaker 3 (01:02:33):
And where we at We're back in Atlanta.

Speaker 2 (01:02:36):
Yeah, we went back to Atlanta, so that I think
it's always funny when we travel.

Speaker 5 (01:02:39):
It's we really should start blogging when we travel.

Speaker 3 (01:02:43):
I tried, but y'all, don't y'all tell thee because.

Speaker 1 (01:02:49):
We gotta blog the next travel.

Speaker 2 (01:02:50):
The next travel is gonna be hilarious, and we gotta
have tone getting on next.

Speaker 3 (01:02:54):
Win right and send him in the window seat both, y'all.

Speaker 1 (01:02:58):
I definitely I'm getting ship that scared me away from
window seats for a long time. I will not be
anywhere near window at all. Always in an hour, get
my shoulder knocked over by a little thing to come
down the aisle. It's all good. I think my favorite,
My favorite was when well, I would say the moment
that I always remember, it's probably the funniest is what

(01:03:20):
Keiky said she would she went, she went to been
the fourteen and woke husky.

Speaker 5 (01:03:29):
Oh god, I would love to put like a compilation
of Kiki.

Speaker 1 (01:03:34):
Is yeah, yes, funny, just like she called me a colonizer. Everybody,
that was funny. It's been so many like dumb ass
funny moments on this Uh, the DNA results was always funny, man,
just just I think. I think my favorite party about
the whole journey is that you just we being here

(01:03:54):
talking and having a good time. We on zoom in
here talking and just to look at where it grew
from the basement to this, and then people coming up
to us like, hey man, I rock with that. I
rock with that. Like man, well people like yo. We
was when we was in Atlanta and I'm like, hey man,
I listened. We listened to that and like we had

(01:04:15):
pop fan pulling up on us in Atlanta. Was crazy.
That was crazy. That was I was like, Yo, that's crazy.
So that was that was that was a real thing
for me.

Speaker 3 (01:04:27):
Well, cheers to two hundred more episodes.

Speaker 1 (01:04:30):
Yeers, cheers, cheers. I got to take my gun off
of it. Okay there, Well, it's all water. It's water,
all right. You already know what that being said? What
more can we say