I recorded Fuerza Regida's Album "111XPANTIA" on my iPhone

I recorded Fuerza Regida's Album "111XPANTIA" on my iPhone

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
And jail P was super involved too. He was there
with us every day.

Speaker 2 (00:02):
Every day. He was bro.

Speaker 1 (00:03):
Sometimes I'll go home early, he will stay there. He
hits me up and he's like, yo, Bro, I'm starting
my own project on the side. He's like, I'm still.
I'm starting my own label. It's called street Mob. So
I told him, yeah, Bro, I'm down. Shortly after that,
I left the industry. That's when I was going crazy.
That's when I was going through some stuff, bro, like
some scary stuff because I got a lot of hate
comments too, bro, from my own people like Christians. I
was still kind of undercharging though from my craft. I

(00:25):
got paid like four hundred bucks to record.

Speaker 3 (00:53):
What's Up?

Speaker 4 (00:54):
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Speaker 2 (01:08):
Yes.

Speaker 4 (01:11):
But today we're joined by a very special guest, one
of the most influential producers in the world of He's
worked with some of the biggest names in the game,
constantly pushing the boundaries in the studio. Most recently he produce.

Speaker 2 (01:33):
Thank you guys for inviting.

Speaker 5 (01:34):
Your means a lot almost, It's an honor to have you.

Speaker 2 (01:36):
Guys, It's an honor for me. Bro.

Speaker 5 (01:38):
And just like how mentioned how Daviel mentioned, like, you know,
your work speaks for itself. Newest album one one one
expand yeah, some crazy stuff in there, and you know
we're here to talk about you know, from how you
started and you know your music career to now, you know,
working with one of the biggest bands in the world.

Speaker 2 (01:55):
It's crazy, man, Thank you guys for baking me.

Speaker 1 (01:58):
I feel specially it's crazy because this is something I
envisioned to bro back out everything that's happened these last
few months. I envisioned it, bro, like producing an album
to being on this podcast, Like it's crazy. So I
thank god, and I think you guys too, Bro.

Speaker 4 (02:11):
Yeah, I think this podcast was like we had to
do it because I remember the day that the album dropped,
we did like the mergencing we were selling life and
then you came up to like, have you guys listened
to the album and then like showed us something on
your phone that you did you did, so I think
that I was like shocked and I was like, bro,
like did like he told me this and now like
I think we should ge him on the podcast. We

(02:33):
all agreed and we're like fucking we're here.

Speaker 6 (02:35):
Yeah, wow, man, because you're the reason that there's a
banjoin album.

Speaker 2 (02:40):
That was Ana's idea. Bro.

Speaker 1 (02:42):
Really yeah, that's talk. We called him talk because he's tall.

Speaker 2 (02:47):
I met that tallest fun tall bro.

Speaker 4 (02:48):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (02:49):
When I met him, I was like, no, bro, Bro,
I was like, lad, no, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (03:03):
He's just a star. That's funny.

Speaker 4 (03:05):
You think Alex m for real, Like I'm like, hey,
Alex is like music, Like if you don't want the music,
like try the NBA.

Speaker 1 (03:15):
PA my bad guys. I have the cough because I'm sick. Bro,
I've been sick for like three weeks already, so I'm
cough from Like great.

Speaker 2 (03:23):
We didn't let him cancel. I wanted to cancel, but
we're already here.

Speaker 4 (03:27):
Do you want to reschedule?

Speaker 3 (03:30):
You'll stay here?

Speaker 1 (03:31):
He's like the camera, the camera take breaks or whatever.

Speaker 5 (03:36):
Damn bro, Like I said, it's a honor have you here.
And one of the things that I remember, just like
how you used to I think one of the first
kintos that blew up. Was that was like new fresh
and like with different those different style was the the
the Skywalker. I mean, yeah, so that's when I first

(03:57):
discovered you. And I feel like, you know, if you
guys know what I'm talking about. I think, you know,
a lot of people tried to play like the way
that he did, and I feel like not a lot
of people could do it, and I feel like that's
what makes it special. I know.

Speaker 1 (04:09):
Yeah, you know, it's crazy. I was sixteen at the time.

Speaker 2 (04:11):
Bro.

Speaker 1 (04:11):
Yeah, I was sixteen when I recorded that. That was my
first studio session ever too.

Speaker 2 (04:15):
Bro.

Speaker 1 (04:15):
Like I pulled up to the studio and I had
no idea what I was doing, Like I was nervous.
I took like six hours to record that song.

Speaker 2 (04:21):
Bro.

Speaker 5 (04:22):
Really you were trying to really perfect it.

Speaker 1 (04:24):
Yeah, heck yeah, because I mean it was my first
song ever produced or like recorded in Grakinto. But after that,
that's when people started, you know, knowing who I was
within the community of musiquels. Yeah, it was a smaller
community back then, bro, very few. Now everybody played it
was very crazy.

Speaker 2 (04:38):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (04:38):
Yeah, And I think you give a little bit more context,
Like what we're talking about was like back in the day,
like the instruments and like muscamik I was a little
bit more like simple.

Speaker 1 (04:46):
Twenty seventeen, I think twenty eighteen.

Speaker 4 (04:48):
Yeah, and then what Jason was saying that Menu used
to be in a group called the fo at the
City and I remember, okay, we used to play music too.
You guys dropped a song called the La Skywalker like that.
Linto was like crazy. I mean, I feel like people
listen now the games like yeah, whatever, Like back then,
you listen to that, you're like holy ship, Like what
the fuck is?

Speaker 5 (05:05):
Like yeah, yeah, and we're actually gonna play it, so
you guys could know what we're talking about.

Speaker 4 (05:09):
We're gonna get coy ready, We're gonna city and we.

Speaker 8 (05:13):
Can't play Let's let's get those bros six seconds of
the at least that that's actually the one that got
me to you guys know what, I'm Bascus out.

Speaker 1 (05:25):
I'm Bascus too. Well used to play from too, and
Basque has found out about me through that song, through
that project your phone fell, bro, he found out about
me through that project, and that's when I started playing
for him.

Speaker 5 (05:38):
Yeah, do you feel like since ever since you took
out that Rakino it led to like so many opportunities
and recording for so many artists.

Speaker 1 (05:45):
It did, Bro, because after that, you know, Milo was
hitting me up to record after that, like you know,
like I will see those hitting me up for their artists,
a bunch of other you know, local artists. There wasn't
as many artists back then as there are now either. Sorry,
you know, so I joined up on Bascas after that.
I don't even think I lasted a year with him.
I lasted like a few months. This was like in

(06:07):
twenty twenty do to personal things that happened, and a
lot of people remember this, and I know you guys
know too. I left the industry because there's a lot
of weird stuff in there. I'm not going to talk
about it, but I thank God where I'm at right
now with Jop, with Street Model, we ain't on that stuff,
even though, like I see the commons. I know you
guys see the comments too, talking about man jopiece of sellout.
He sold this all. He's Illuminati. But noah, Bro, we're

(06:30):
on God's side over here. But you know, at the time,
I left because I had seen some things, Bro, I
had experiences, and that's what led me to leaving music
for four years. For four years, I wasn't doing anything, bro.
Four years I was like, I worked at Amazon warehouse,
I worked at Walmart warehouse. I went from like doing
gigs making money to like no money at all.

Speaker 2 (06:50):
Bro.

Speaker 1 (06:51):
I was working at like Portos, working at you know,
doing car detailing and stuff, you know, and like I
couldn't find myself, you know, Man, it's crazy. Four years later, screw,
We'll just we'll talk about it. Four years later, I
end up meeting a guy who's now my pastor at church.
Because I'm Christian, I believe in Jesus, and you know,
I'm I'm I'm firm on that path even even though

(07:12):
I'm here.

Speaker 2 (07:12):
People don't get it, you know.

Speaker 1 (07:13):
But people don't know that because I get a lot
of hate comments too, bro, from my own people, like Christians,
talking about, man, you're on the wrong path. You switched upsides.
You're like, yeah, and you know what's up? Yeah, and
you know that language too, and yeah. So this guy
that I met, he's my pastor and he mentors me.
He calls me into his his meeting room and he's like, yo, Manual,

(07:36):
what's going on? Like I see you doing all these jobs.
You're not prospering, you're not doing anything. He's like, get
the innocent, thus minos, what do you have? And I'm like,
all I'm good at is music, Like I can't do
anything else other than that. And he sent me out
to do music. He's like, test it, go do music.
Just do studio work. Don't involve yourself with certain people
to go to the studio. Do your job and keep

(07:57):
coming to church, keep doing your own thing.

Speaker 2 (07:58):
But just do your work.

Speaker 1 (07:59):
And as long as you're good with God, you're good.
And I was sad that week when he told me
to do that because I didn't think I could live
out for this, Bro. I didn't think I could do
anything with music. You know, it's it's rare, like people
be trying to make it like in music. And you
know me, I dedicated in my last four years to
just praying, bro, praying and praying, not knowing what was

(08:19):
going to happen in my life. And when I followed
that order to do music, that first week, I did
Becky G's album It's uh He's called in Guentros and
Guentros she did, She did corrillos and all that, and
that one was I think Ectro Guerrero composed the songs.
So that first week I did Becky G's album. After

(08:39):
that I got plugged up with Double P's I was doing.
I did that A's album too, the one that just
came out. I did their guitarist fire Bro Yeah, me
and that they are really close too. I was just
with him the other day too, and that that's the
cool thing that you know, I'm able to I'm still
able to keep those connections and stuff. I did a
Steas album too, So it's just everything started coming in

(08:59):
a place in less than a year.

Speaker 2 (09:01):
It's wild, Brodn, I.

Speaker 4 (09:03):
Think that's really cool.

Speaker 6 (09:03):
Bro.

Speaker 4 (09:04):
And then right now you mentioned that it's really hard
to make it out there in the music. Would you
say that it's hard? I mean, first of all, to
be like an artist itself, like it's already like super hard,
like so much competition, it's.

Speaker 2 (09:17):
Like super saturated stream.

Speaker 4 (09:18):
But to be like a musico and a producer, what
you say, it's even harder than that, like to make
a living off of it.

Speaker 2 (09:25):
What makes it hard?

Speaker 1 (09:26):
What makes it hard is I mean a lot of
people I can think, letch, I don't know, you know
what I'm saying, Like Honestly, I don't even know what
it is.

Speaker 9 (09:33):
Bro.

Speaker 1 (09:33):
For me, I can't even come up with like a
logical answer to that. For me, it's just god, Bro,
It's like, whoever's in the game is because they were
meant to be in the game. Whoever's out of the
game is because they were not meant to be in sometimes.
You know, I noticed similar patterns within people who haven't
made it, And it's like a character issue too. A
lot of people burn bridges, a lot of people, you know,
they they're not good with people.

Speaker 5 (09:54):
They're they're too egotistic.

Speaker 1 (09:56):
Yeah, yeah, And those are the people that don't make it,
you know what I mean. And the people I've met
within the industry that have made it, they're they're humble people,
they're cool, you know, you talk to them. I think
that has a lot to do too. But more than anything,
it's just it's something that's meant to be.

Speaker 5 (10:09):
Mm hm and well in in your eyes, what would
you say is like I and I made it moment
as a as a music musician slash producer, It's like, okay,
like I'm good. I mean, besides like living living off
it or is that what everybody shoots for?

Speaker 1 (10:25):
The moment I had where I was like, damn, like
not because I still don't consider myself as I made it,
like i'm making it. I'm on the path to making
it because prosperity isn't so much like a It's not
like a moment you made it. It's a path, you
know what I mean. And I feel like I'm on
that path. But it's it's just you know, being in
rooms with like you know, like I said that A
is then you get hit up by like I got

(10:47):
hit up by thto Double Peter record, from just a
bunch of artists in general that are making noise.

Speaker 2 (10:51):
I'm like, oh, shoot, like like my.

Speaker 5 (10:53):
Boy came in and he took he's taking all the work.

Speaker 1 (10:56):
I just say yeah, And I was like, damn, like
it feels cool.

Speaker 9 (10:59):
You know.

Speaker 1 (11:00):
I was still kind of undercharging though, for my craft
because I didn't know what to charge. I think I
got paid like four hundred bucks to record, so that's
how much I was charged. Because that's where my mindset
started shifting because them, like the artists and the labels,
as a business, your work for hire, and it's part

(11:20):
of the business they make the song, they hire musicians. Okay,
work for higher school and fourhundred bucks aren't even that bad.
Like it, It's not like oh shoot, you know. And
that's when I started shifting my mentality.

Speaker 9 (11:30):
Bro.

Speaker 1 (11:31):
That's when I started being like, Okay, how can I
land or how can I make my way into the percentages?
How can I make my way into like getting revenue
from their streams? And I started educating myself and I
was like, well, as a musician, I'm working for hire.

Speaker 2 (11:47):
I can't.

Speaker 1 (11:47):
I can't go in there and charge like a band,
you know what I mean? If my name's not out
there like that. That's when I started creating my own instrumentals, bro,
Like I wanted to level. And to this day, I
told people, I'm like, I don't even want to be
considered these thy anymore. Bro, although people know me because
of that. To being a producer and because Expanded is

(12:08):
my first my first project ever apart from being the
first big project, Expand my first big project as a producer.

Speaker 2 (12:15):
Bro, that's crazy.

Speaker 1 (12:17):
It's the first. I was like, Bro, when I signed
with jop and I'm gonna get to that right now too.
How I signed with him. When I signed with him,
he texted me album mode in all caps album mode,
I'm like, oh shoot, like it's real and I needed
to come up with stuff, you know. But my point
is when when I started getting into the mentality of
like wanting to make instrumentals, I was like, okay, well
I might have to like contract musicians too. I'ma have

(12:40):
to take out of my pocket invest into the instrumentals.
I remember paying like five five bills for studio time,
five bills for trombonietas like three p fifty for someone
else to put in by Woldo chair bays, and I
started creating my own instrumentals and just showing all the
artists like, Okay, I have this instrumental. It's kind of
like making beats, because that that was the approach we
took to expand you. Back then, they weren't doing that.

(13:02):
It's the songwriter shows you. The songwriter shows you the song,
and they're like, okay, just put guitars on it. Boom,
that's it. Put guitars on it.

Speaker 2 (13:08):
I leave by.

Speaker 1 (13:09):
But now I was like, Okay, how can I create
something new? And that's when I started making instrumentals and
showing people.

Speaker 2 (13:15):
Bro.

Speaker 5 (13:16):
Yeah, I think I think that's pretty interesting because how
you mentioned you know, the the artist you know, comes
up with, you know, chord progression and put some lettra
and then you put your But now it's like, okay,
now I'm bringing you the song and you're gonna hop
on your lyrics just how rappers do it. So it's
like everything's kind of switching, you know, in a sense,
like the musicos are going to start being.

Speaker 6 (13:36):
A little bit like backwards approach or you think the
instrumentals now take a bigger spotlight.

Speaker 2 (13:42):
Maybe back then it was like, oh, like I look,
you know, but this is the letter right here. Now
it's backwards. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (13:46):
People have been emphasizing that two about the album the instrumentals.
I've never seen that in in like other other songs
talk about all instrumental and.

Speaker 2 (13:56):
I never seen that.

Speaker 1 (13:56):
And for people to like emphasize on that, like in
the comments, I'm like, oh, shoot, like we're really doing something.
And and also people musicians don't know this, but by
you creating the chord progression, you're already a songwriter. That's
a royalty for you already. By you creating a melody
and the artist sings the melody, that's royalties for you
already too. And and a lot of artists. They you know,
they'll take advantage of you. And I've worked with other producers,

(14:20):
you know, creating melodies for them, and you know they'll
they'll toss me a little too fifty back then and
stuff like that. And you know they'll give the song
to artists and they take the percentage. That's where you
really have to like, you know, they said through Chapron
and because there's money in this. And I mean it's
a process too, you know. And Jop trusted it though,

(14:41):
you know when we spoke, he trusted, Uh, gosh, give
me a second pause.

Speaker 2 (14:48):
Damn.

Speaker 4 (14:49):
I feel like I feel like that's smart because and
I feel like it's still too you know for an
artist to want to get like a percentage the song.
I feel like it's also not that common, you know.
I feel like a lot of artists. I feel like
a lot of musicians fight for that too.

Speaker 2 (15:02):
Is it not coming at all? Or like it just
doesn't happen.

Speaker 1 (15:05):
It's supposed to happen. And I know a producer his
name is a producers for like Justin Bieber young Thug,
And he said it himself. He said that the REU
industry is nothing like the American industry, you know, do
the things not being.

Speaker 2 (15:20):
Dumb, right.

Speaker 1 (15:21):
And also I feel like it's the way the way
the industry came up to you now, the people that
were behind the scenes, and you know we we we
kind of we. You know, you see straight through those people,
and you see straight through the labels and just maybe
they weren't educated either on that stuff, you know, and
let's come Minneapa is okay, we'll just pay you this,
and the artist makes this and labels make more. But

(15:43):
you know when when when I showed Jop what I had,
because oh that's another story how I even ended up
with Jop.

Speaker 5 (15:51):
But you're like, how did you meet him?

Speaker 9 (15:53):
Bro?

Speaker 2 (15:53):
Like what was the interaction?

Speaker 1 (15:54):
So MOI I've been knowing more since he was like
twelve years old.

Speaker 9 (15:58):
Bro.

Speaker 1 (15:59):
I just sleep over his house, I know, hi because
of the dBm. You guys know dBm right there. Yeah,
he does their their music videos and all that content.
I used to go to his house. We more used
to play in a group back then, and we were
we would always be at the Flier parties. I was
playing at the Flyer parties.

Speaker 2 (16:14):
You know, I still be.

Speaker 1 (16:22):
I was at all of them. Bro. I used to
Tellos because I used to play for them for free, bro,
just to get into the parties.

Speaker 2 (16:28):
I was playing myself.

Speaker 9 (16:29):
Bro.

Speaker 1 (16:29):
I was like, no, you don't got to pay me
as long as you get me in the party for Yeah. Yeah,
we were there and I'd go to Miguel's house and uh,
I'll sleep over. His mom would feed me, we would
go out. We went out to like eat sushi and stuff.
A point is I've been knowing more since then. And
j O P on the other hand, he started following

(16:52):
me during quarantine on Instagram. I was like, oh, shoot,
Jop followed me. That's when like I was getting movement.
I was like, coming up. That was literally before I
left the industry. He hit me up. This was when
he was barely starting street Mob. He was like yo,
like what what's up, Bro?

Speaker 2 (17:04):
How you doing this and that?

Speaker 1 (17:05):
And we started talking and he told me he wanted
me to record for him because at the time, that's
when not that was coming up, Like Corrino was already
a thing Bro. Twenty twenty, Corris was taken over and
part of my style I was adapting to that too,
So I would post a capella videos like you know
you have a video with doing the raquino and then
one in the bottom d'rmonia, another one with the base. Bro,
I was doing a corrido dumblo covers like manual style, right.

(17:28):
He hits me up and he's like, yo, Bro, I'm
I'm I'm starting my own project on the side. He's like,
I'm still for Regula, but I want to start j
Op and I want to get you in the studio.
I'm starting my own label. It's called Street Mob. So
I told him, yeah, Bro, I'm down. Shortly after that,
I left the industry. That's when I was going crazy.
That's when I was going through some stuff, bro, like
some scary stuff to the point where and I tell

(17:50):
people this all the time because they asked me. It's
to the point where like if I talk about it,
weird things will happen around like it's on some weird stuff.

Speaker 9 (17:57):
Bro.

Speaker 1 (17:58):
So that kind of like made me leave the dusty
and start seeking God. And I remember telling Jop too.
I was like, hey, Bro, like i'ma have to flake,
i'mna have to cancel because you know, I'm just gonna
dedicate my life to God. I'm not gonna do music
no more. And he respected it too. He wasn't on
like why wait, bo, but Bro, like you got now
He told me like, hey, I respect that, Bro, go
do your thing. So that's the background story with me,

(18:22):
Moy and Jop the following four years that I wasn't
doing music, never did Jop and follow me on Instagram, Bro,
And I remember, like, I found it interesting because I'll
post stories of me at church, post stories of me
eating with my mama and here and there. I'll see
his view under my story and I'm like, oh, shoot,
like bro still tapped in. It's crazy. And I'll check.
One time I checked this followings too, like just to
see and it was like very few people he was following.

(18:44):
I'm like, oh damn, Like I found I didn't think
much of it. I just found it interesting. And fast
forward to when I started doing music again. I'm recording
for all these artists. You know, they found out like
almost a year after that I started doing music, Moy
found out was doing music again.

Speaker 2 (19:01):
And that's when.

Speaker 1 (19:03):
That's when I got a phone call. I got a
phone call from dBm. He's like, hey, Bro, we need
you to come record a song. It was gro Soona's Bro.
That's that's the song I went, I recorded gross, I
reunited with Moy. It was like that same brotherly love bro,
Like you know, people see him and you know he's
a big star, and I still see him.

Speaker 2 (19:21):
Like a little brother bro, like that's my boy, that's Moy. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (19:25):
So you know, I pulled up the sto to the studio.
Jop wasn't there. He wasn't there when I recorded. I
think he was out on a trip. What point is
I started going more often. I started, I went with
that man, started to record his songs, and that's when
I saw Jop again. Well, no, you know what, that's
the first time I seen Jop because I never met
him in person.

Speaker 2 (19:45):
Oh ship. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (19:46):
He was like, what's up, bro, how you doing. I'm like, bro,
like it's good to finally meet you. He's like, what
do you mean we never met before. I'm like no,
He's like, I feel like I've known you, bro, Like no,
that's crazy. I was like the instant connection too, that's crazy.

Speaker 5 (19:56):
That's crazy. The fact that you know he kept looking
for you, like he knew that you had that talent,
and you know, ended up coming together and you guys
made this a huge masterpiece.

Speaker 2 (20:07):
You know, give you your time to see if you're
going to come back or not.

Speaker 6 (20:10):
And still kept kept up with you following because I
feel like big artists, whatever little chance they get, they
be on following.

Speaker 2 (20:16):
People talk about you.

Speaker 3 (20:24):
You don't want to post it on your story, how
you don't want to get on following.

Speaker 4 (20:28):
I kept no bullshit, bro, I was like that for
if I post this bullshit like a big artists.

Speaker 2 (20:34):
Follow your like, like, what are you going to think
if I post like you know me, I.

Speaker 3 (20:37):
Don't know cheeseburger, Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's yeah.

Speaker 9 (20:42):
You know.

Speaker 4 (20:43):
So you met Joe p you just started recording on Gross,
But how did you like officially join like to become
a street moment?

Speaker 1 (20:50):
So, man, after I recorded with Armenta, I heard that
there was like so I had left, and I guess
like Armenta jail because the street mob house is always active, Bro.
It's full like people, whether it's Glove there, Diego there
breaking all the artists and all the people on the team,
they just be kicking it. They were telling me that
Jop was listening to one of my productions that I

(21:11):
did for Audamenta and the song as it came out
yet and it was like, yo, who's this like this
tough that's manual, and they're like, damn, this is crazy.
So they started calling me up more. Moy started at
and you know what's weird, this is crazy. Moy had
no idea that I was doing instrumentals on the side
that I was already like, you know, going to studios,
you know, orchestrating my own instrumentals. He had no idea.
And it's weird because he hits me up. He tells me,

(21:33):
he's like, hey, bro, send any any beats you have.
I don't know what he meant by that. I don't
know if he met like trap beats or yeah, send beats.
And that's when I sent him Godfather, the Godfather instrumental.
I made that one way. That was one of the
first instrumentals I made when I was when I got
into that mindset of I want to be a producer.
I want to be you know, I want to make

(21:54):
things from scratch, and my in my mind, I was like,
I'm gonna land it with somebody big. I don't know
who it's gonna be with, but it's gonna be with
somebody big. I showed that A was because that's like
that a style based and I've always been a fan
of that a. I showed him and I offered it
to him too, but it never happened, and he was like, what.

Speaker 2 (22:10):
Do you want for it?

Speaker 1 (22:11):
I'm like, man, I want a percentage, and he started joking.
He start laughing. He's like you tripping but just like laughing. Yeah,
and he messages around a lot. He funny bron yeah
man me and that a bro solid. I love that guy.
But yeah, So I showed a couple of people instrumental
and it's funny because that a lot of people don't know,

(22:33):
but that instrumentals from a movie, The Godfather movie. It's
a theme song, like the original song is like orchestra.

Speaker 2 (22:38):
It's like.

Speaker 5 (22:42):
It's like a like American gagster type of movie.

Speaker 1 (22:44):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (22:45):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (22:46):
And it originally happened because I wanted to make content
for Instagram, Like I wanted to do a video me
doing a cover the Godfather cover. And you know, I
was in the shower one time and I was like, man,
I want to do like an Italian Mafia type b
and I remember that song and for some reason they
just clicked to me to do it with classical guitars
and date style bass, like that's never been done before,
and I did it. I remember I posted it on

(23:07):
Instagram and it got no type of views, no type
of like I bumped out, So.

Speaker 2 (23:18):
That happens.

Speaker 6 (23:19):
You know, you think like you made some fire as
ship and no views. I feel like a lot of
artists have been in that position. Where do you go
from there?

Speaker 2 (23:25):
Man? I just I got this.

Speaker 1 (23:26):
I got discouraged a little bit, but I was, you
know what, I'm gonna keep making stuff like you never
know what could happen, right, So Moy I sent it
to Moy and he's like, man, this is crazy. A
few days later he's like, yo, Street Mob loves this one,
like they're going crazy over it. How much you want
for it? And that's when I met Even. I was like,
I'm on royalties, bro, and me and Moy since were
cool like that. He's he's you know, he was looking

(23:47):
out for me. He's like, let me talk to boss man,
that's what you called. JP talked to the Big Boss
and we came to an agreement. I reserved it for them,
and then after he was like, Jap says, he wants
you to make another beat. He wants you to make
a Rosona's type beat. So I made another one. I
went to the studio, I paid out musicians. I was loky,
running out of money, bro, just I didn't even know

(24:09):
if it was gonna work or not. I didn't know
if that yeah. I was just making the risk, BRO,
like okay, boom. I think I put like twelve hundred
into that one, and I was like, you know what, Bro,
my Bankercow's going down.

Speaker 2 (24:20):
Screw it.

Speaker 1 (24:20):
We'll just take the risk. I sent it to him.

Speaker 2 (24:22):
He liked it. That one.

Speaker 1 (24:23):
Never we never did anything with that one, but you know,
I see it as an investment that got me the deal.
And then I remember I created another idea and I
can't say anything about it because it's like a specific
collab that hasn't happened yet with like another genre. But
I remember I had an idea on my phone, Okay,
this is gonna be the type of beat I'm gonna make.
Moy hits me up, yo, we need you to make

(24:44):
a certain type of beat. It was the same exact
idea that I had, the same collab idea.

Speaker 2 (24:49):
That I had.

Speaker 1 (24:50):
I was like, Bro, that's crazy, like the way it
just fell into place. I made the instrumental I sent
it to them.

Speaker 9 (24:56):
Bro.

Speaker 1 (24:57):
Joe people was like, that's crazy. It still hasn't came
out yet either, and I hope it comes out soon.
But then I got a phone call from Jop He's
like yo, He's like, man's up, Bro, how you doing?

Speaker 9 (25:04):
Man?

Speaker 1 (25:05):
Like I like the instrumentals you're making. He's like, I
want to sign you, Bro. I want to sign you
as a producer and give you a deal that's never
been done before, because realistically, there's no producer deals like
you never hear that in the industry, and Jop he
didn't you know, I didn't have anything to back me up.
I wasn't a producer. I was a studio musician just
but I started proving myself with the instrumentals. And he's like, Bro,

(25:27):
He's like, honestly, like, you know, I feel like I
feel like I've been knowing you for for a while
already medicin And he's like, yo, seeut tevista Bro your
stories on Instagram going through He fea bro like that.

Speaker 2 (25:37):
I was like, damn, like it was.

Speaker 1 (25:39):
It was just it was a nice conversation, and you know,
I got he shows me the contract. I get myself
a lawyer. They revise it. I still took my time
to sign. I think I locked in with them for
like a month before signing. I was already like saying
no to other sessions, just going to the Street Mob
house every day from nine am sometimes to like from

(26:00):
nine am to like, bro like three am in the
morning type stuff. Just locking in. We're making instrumentals, bro,
like crazy, And you know that's when Espanta happened. That's when,
and that's another freaking creative process, bro. He Spantia process
was beautiful, like because we started working on it before
I even signed the Street Mop. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (26:22):
I feel like that's a really cool thing about the
whole Street Mob team, how everybody has some sort of
input And I feel like you were just like another element,
like a special special type of element that was added
onto that creative process.

Speaker 1 (26:33):
You know, definitely jo He trusted that vision. He trusted
it for sure.

Speaker 4 (26:37):
And since you like know a lot of people like
also in the industry, do you know anyone else who
has like a similar deal with like maybe an artist
or a label where they get a percentage as well?

Speaker 2 (26:47):
Not sure?

Speaker 1 (26:48):
I know, you know Neto Bro, I respect Nettal, I
love that guy. I'm not sure what deal he has,
but he pretty much not that he does what I do,
but he has a he plays a big role. Yeahnandez,
he's crazy predictions. I'm sure they give him something too.

Speaker 2 (27:05):
They have to. Matter of fact.

Speaker 1 (27:07):
Before signing the street Map, I was in between two
deals because Double P offered me something too, but it
wasn't like an official thing. They just threw it on
the table like hey, Like Netta was actually talking to
me about it. He was talking to the CEO. He
was talking to George George Bracken, and he was, hey, man,
we'll give you this amount of month, and it was
going to be like an exclusive deal. I wasn't gonna
be able to record for nobody and stuff. It was

(27:28):
a good deal too, it'll be I was gonna get
paid out.

Speaker 2 (27:33):
Exclusive.

Speaker 6 (27:34):
Part of what kind of like you're kind of like
between street Map and Double Double P was kind of
giving you like, oh, you'll give you this certain amount
of money a month a month while you work with us.
And then you decided to take the risk even if
you thought that, like you know, the money is running now.
I kind of instrumentals, but you're like I want the royalties.

Speaker 1 (27:51):
Yeah, so and you know I don't know if it
was anything officially, if it was even gonna happen, but
the offer was there and I was just taking as
a as a studio musician. Though just okay, man, we
got this this many songs, just put guitars boom.

Speaker 2 (28:08):
That's it.

Speaker 1 (28:09):
Like they didn't know me as like a producer. J
P didn't even know me as a producer. He just
it's weird the way everything happened. I'm telling you, bro,
it's kind of like we united in the same vision.
Just it's a god thing, bro, Literally, so I signed
a street mob and he gives me an advance. With
that advance because I was doing things on my phone, Bro,

(28:31):
I was doing let me show you.

Speaker 4 (28:36):
I thought that she was crazy, like you thought like
all its like I went to like old studio.

Speaker 2 (28:43):
His phone, nothing go what was that?

Speaker 9 (28:48):
Was it?

Speaker 2 (28:50):
The poling all the.

Speaker 5 (28:54):
Poo twin X do you know? You know?

Speaker 2 (28:57):
Yeah, so a chance I apologize for that.

Speaker 1 (29:04):
When I was making instrumentals sending them to JOP, I
was adding sounds in the background and stuff, and Joe
he liked it. He's like, what would you do some
of the lapstop? I was like I did on my phone.
He was like, he's like, no, man is bro. He
was like, it's this bad. So when we started working
on Xpantia, I still didn't I still didn't have I
still didn't sign, like I didn't get the money till
I signed. I was locked in with him for a

(29:25):
month before signing, so I would just pull up to
the studio and this is when gotsa happened. Watch so I,
you know, more took out about hoogeen. So he started
playing some chords and I added this right here on
my phone, bro, on my phone, I made him, and

(29:49):
then I added this effect right here.

Speaker 5 (29:50):
Look that's on my phone, BROA, My mind is blown. Bro,
I feel like it. It's always cool to see the
first versions of the songs, like the demos. Yeah yeah,
because it's two different things, you know, the final product
then when it's actually being built up.

Speaker 1 (30:09):
I paid twenty bucks for this app. I was seventeen
in high school trying to make beats and I was like,
that's no normal, Like I'm twenty four now I'm pushing forty,
bro twenty four. Hey, they always be calling me now,
I'm like, damn BROB twenty five and pushing forty.

Speaker 2 (30:26):
But we got two minds of being a youngster. Yea
the club.

Speaker 5 (30:34):
So he shows any more versions of su.

Speaker 1 (30:37):
Yeah, I can or some other creation from this this.
I made it from scratch, just like you know what
I'm saying, like.

Speaker 2 (30:44):
Let me show you. I have no idea what what
am I looking at?

Speaker 5 (30:47):
But like some piano looking what if you scream recorded
and then we'll put it on the thing.

Speaker 1 (30:52):
Yeah I could.

Speaker 2 (30:53):
You might have dropped them metal, Yeah, like they couldn't
do it. Let me screw recordless thing.

Speaker 5 (30:58):
So that's it was the guys for all you musicians
looking out there like it might be the next big thing,
you know.

Speaker 6 (31:05):
Yeah, And I think we've had an interview before where
we're like, oh okay. He was asking him like what
kind of presets or this or that? I don't know
any music talk. But then he was I can't be
can't be dropping the sauce like that. So I think
it really it really comes down to being able to
use the tools that you have, like I don't know,
just just being I don't.

Speaker 2 (31:22):
Know, just having to get in your head, like I
don't know, You've got to be created.

Speaker 3 (31:25):
That's the word created.

Speaker 1 (31:26):
Oh and pound cake, well bad, I'm so used to
calling it pound Cake Sancho. That's what we're calling it
the whole time, before you even had the name to Sancho.

Speaker 2 (31:35):
That's one of my favorite song to Sancho, mine too.

Speaker 1 (31:37):
And it's funny because Joe was telling me, like, I
feel like that one's not going to do the best
in the album, and it's Lokey doing good. It's doing
really good because we all had our opinions on which
one's gonna do good. We didn't expect my bottle Roco
to go crazy like that. And that's a that's a
Charlie production. Charlie did Charlie and Grabba, Who's a Golden
I only did. There's three songs I didn't do in
the album. I didn't do Chaka, I didn't do True Food,
last or Roco. But that's like the album like yeah, yeah,

(32:02):
and but that's what the album needed to that's what
I asking for. So when I did to Sancho, it
was moy asking me, yo, man, You're like, what app
do you use? I was an FL Studio mobile. Won't
put you on f L Studio mobile? Twenty bucks?

Speaker 9 (32:15):
Bro?

Speaker 1 (32:15):
Now I have.

Speaker 3 (32:18):
Throwing affiliate link.

Speaker 1 (32:21):
And you sponsored me.

Speaker 4 (32:22):
Bro.

Speaker 2 (32:22):
The heck.

Speaker 1 (32:25):
So moy told me, hey, what do you use on
the fl studio mobile?

Speaker 2 (32:28):
Is how to use it?

Speaker 1 (32:30):
I wish I had the project right here, but I
started just like putting things together, putting the strings and
all that, uh, the sense in the back, the ones
that go, and I was like, shoot, bro, I think
we could do something with this. You know, we tossed
it on the on the computer like their actual studio computer.
I put my hooking on it, and then that's when

(32:51):
I got Ellie Golding's vocals.

Speaker 2 (32:54):
Let me look for it.

Speaker 1 (32:56):
I got her vocals and I started chopping them up
because it's hard to sample something that's in a different
time into corrillos.

Speaker 2 (33:03):
Let me look for him. Damn man made Sancho on
a twenty dollars rap on his phone hand. Yeah, I'm
telling you, man, hold give me a So.

Speaker 5 (33:11):
Now he's getting royalties for that. Bro, Like what, let's
goal right there?

Speaker 4 (33:16):
That's crazy and shot j P things people. Right, I've
heard a lot of great things about like the people
who work, and we'd love to hear more.

Speaker 2 (33:24):
So come to potcast.

Speaker 1 (33:28):
He's like, k I told him that I was coming on.
He was like, Bro, that's fire, he said, that's right. Yeah,
I'm like, oh, thank you, look.

Speaker 2 (33:44):
On my phone.

Speaker 1 (33:45):
Oh let me scream record it though, Oh ye're going
to put that up there. I chopped it too, So
this is the this is the original without without chopping it.
This is the original.

Speaker 5 (33:56):
Watch It's like you're getting sucked up into the space.

Speaker 2 (34:08):
You're getting sucked up craze and then chopped up to
get to get it.

Speaker 1 (34:18):
Oh you know which one you're gonna trip out on?

Speaker 5 (34:20):
And that's my favorite.

Speaker 1 (34:22):
So that, bro, And you don't even know what sample
that is. You know that's a sample, right, I couldn't
tell you know that sent Fernandez?

Speaker 2 (34:30):
What the fun? I promise you another one on that time?
Watch this? Literally?

Speaker 9 (34:39):
What the.

Speaker 5 (34:42):
What that was?

Speaker 10 (34:46):
That was?

Speaker 1 (34:47):
That was j Op's idea. He's like, hey, let's try
to sample some historical Mexican stuff, okay, And we're in
the studio and he sends me this one. You try
to sample this part, And I was like, I don't
know if we could do that, and we ended up
doing And the cool thing is that we got these samples.

Speaker 2 (34:59):
Clear.

Speaker 1 (35:00):
Yeah, that's right. Yeah, that's the thing in hip hop.
A lot of people talking about that. Man, you copy
it's it's a thing already and we wanted to bring
it up over here.

Speaker 3 (35:09):
That is like fucking crazy. It's like hip hop rap
and music.

Speaker 2 (35:15):
Yeah, let me look for the project, bro.

Speaker 6 (35:21):
Honestly, I think that you guys are going to start
a whole trend. I think that's going to be the
next big thing. It's going to be sampling. Yeah, I mean,
I know it's gonna take a little bit of time
for artists to clear the samples, but give it a
few months, everybody in the rom is gonna be doing it.

Speaker 2 (35:35):
Yeah. I think he's the one that.

Speaker 6 (35:36):
Said I know that a sample like the only way
to get like a starting vibe or feeling like it's
still a sample that you can't really do it with
instruments and yeah.

Speaker 4 (35:43):
But think about it too, to get something clear like that. Yeah,
like not everyone could get.

Speaker 1 (35:48):
It stress and you got to give them whatever percentage
they want to. Yeah, they're like no, yeah, So this
is how I chopped it up, like gold nothing look
that stuff. And then we pitched it.

Speaker 2 (36:03):
We pitched it down. I could like I could hear it.

Speaker 1 (36:05):
We pitched it down.

Speaker 2 (36:13):
That's the coolest.

Speaker 4 (36:14):
Too much, it's too much thought for everyone out there
and you had to start menual school now university imagine.

Speaker 1 (36:24):
So that was a cool thing, Bro that I was
able to experiment like that, And there's a lot of things,
a lot of things I have to do to Bro.
We had a lot of moments of like because it
wasn't just me, it was me and Moy, Me and
and Choppies too. He's an engineer, mixed mix and master.
He also produces. It was just us sitting down and

(36:46):
because one thing is making the beat and recording the instruments,
another thing is producing it. Like you know, sometimes me
and Moy would be sitting there and we'll be we'll
just be listening to the songs and we'll be like,
all right there, let's at the same time at the
same time right there, a reverse right there, and we're like, oh, shoot,
right there. He cuts out. Because a lot of people
don't know this, but you know, being a musician and

(37:09):
a producer, there's two different things. Me as a producer,
you know, our job is to like tell the trombone guy, hey,
don't do that, just do this and cut it right there, Hey, bro,
take off the the blochlo and some songs being Moy
with Moy would sit down and be like, Okay, what
do you hear right here? I don't know, I feel
like it's bass. Will tell me that it's not bassed.

(37:30):
What about yeah blocha on this one, because that that's
what it is.

Speaker 5 (37:34):
You got to create a vibe for the people call
it like a lot of like swapping in like yeah
or anything like Okay, we're gonna do baoch here it
doesn't sound good and the next thing, the next instrument.

Speaker 1 (37:45):
And Jop was super involved too. He was there with
us every day. Every day he was he bro. Sometimes
I'll go home early, he will stay there.

Speaker 2 (37:51):
People. Oh do sancho?

Speaker 1 (37:53):
You know the bass? How it comes at bam? That
was him on the bass bro Jop like he'd be okay,
just just catch this part, bam.

Speaker 2 (38:00):
Let me show you.

Speaker 4 (38:01):
Yeah, I think I know what you're talking about. That's
crazy I was about. I asked to like, how involval
was Jop because I know a lot of artists like
they just like hire the mosts and then they come
in with the vocal man.

Speaker 1 (38:11):
He was. He was super involved. He's he's really involved
with the people. Like for example, this right here the
base for him life.

Speaker 2 (38:24):
That's j O P.

Speaker 1 (38:26):
He said give me her him Like I was kind
of with the vocal singing. I was kind of skeptical
and he was like Bam. I was okay, it could work.

Speaker 5 (38:32):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (38:32):
And that was actually me and Moy and JP on
the bass.

Speaker 4 (38:35):
Bro.

Speaker 1 (38:36):
Like, people don't know that I did most of it,
you know, but Moy added some fiellers on the base.

Speaker 2 (38:39):
And then you know he'll switch Jo Bam. Yeah. They
have you ever had to tell like Jo like yo, like,
that's not the you know what?

Speaker 1 (38:48):
No, I haven't, but he has told me he's that's
not it. When we were in the studio, I was
in the booth wood and when he was doing drink
and whiskey at the bar, I didn't I didn't know
what to think at first because I couldn't hear he
he had the headphones on and all out here was
drink and whiskey.

Speaker 2 (39:03):
I was kind of.

Speaker 1 (39:04):
Skeptical, we'll see what happens. And after I hear it
and it's like, oh, she was pretty fire. Some people
don't like it, some people do. I personally like it, Bro,
because it's just a different production and it was just
it was on some experimental stuff, BRO, and.

Speaker 2 (39:19):
That's the cool thing.

Speaker 1 (39:19):
About Jip he takes risks. Do you ever see him
do a full country song? No, I've never him, Like
I do see him in the future. I feel like
he will he klok do anything now now that you
know me working with him, knowing him personally.

Speaker 6 (39:35):
Guys are back from the break, and during the break,
you were telling us that you go to church at
least three times a week, that this last week you're
actually going.

Speaker 1 (39:42):
I think it was like I lost kind of like
four or five times. We have we have an event
this week. Yeah, like I went on Monday, I went yesterday.
We have Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday. It's called the Messenger's House.

Speaker 2 (39:53):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (39:53):
I mean I try my best to stay plugged in
to church.

Speaker 6 (39:57):
And I was gonna ask, how do you balance that
with you know, like the great you know stream op.
I feel like it's known for the work ethic. They're
there every day till the morning, sometimes all the night.
How do you balance that? Do you ever tell jo like, hey, hey,
boss man, I got to go to church right now.

Speaker 1 (40:10):
So before I signed, and this was one of the
big things too, like I took I took so long
to sign because I was I wanted to make sure
that that my times were gonna be respected, you know,
like I got worship practice, I got you know, Thursday services,
Sunday services, and I told JOm like, honestly, like one

(40:33):
of my biggest fears is is signing and drifting away
from my faith. You know, I don't want it to
be something that, instead of being a blessing, is my
downfall spiritually, because I mean, I need Jesus, you know
what I mean, I need God in every day. He's
the one that that you know, everything I'm doing, literally,
everything I'm doing, everything that's falling into place till now,
it's it's literally because of him. And we shook on it, Bro,

(40:56):
me and Joe Jo. He shook on that. He's like,
you know what, you have my word, I'm gonna respect
your times. And you know, there have been times I'm
not gonna lie within the past year that I started
doing music again and going to church and stuff where
I've doubted what I was doing, Bro, because like you said,
is considered mundo, you know, and it's not common to

(41:18):
see to see something like that. I mean, I don't
know anyone else who's doing that, you know, And but
I have I've I've had beautiful experiences in the studio
with artists, bro, Like sometimes an artists will open up
to me, you know, and and we're called to be
the answer, you know, We're called to be in the
answer that somebody is looking for. And you know, I've
I've gotten to pray for specific people. Like one time

(41:38):
I was in the studio with that a Metal I'm like,
let me pray for you. He's like, I pray for him.
You know, Ilo is big on faith now too. He
left Santaria and a lot of people don't know this,
but you know, and I can't take credit for it.
It's all God and people that God put in his
path too, Like you know Raymond Tapia, Yeah, yeah, he
he he played a big part in and you know

(42:00):
his conversion. And you know I got to pray for
him too when he was still in Santa Ria, and
beautiful things happened. Bro. You know, even at streetmar Bro
there was one and I'm not gonna mention the artist,
but there's this one time I told h an artist,
I was like, bro, God's going to.

Speaker 2 (42:14):
Speak to you.

Speaker 1 (42:15):
The next day he comes back and he's like, Bro,
you know what's crazy. I was like, what's up. He's like,
he's like, you know how you told me God's going
to speak to me. I was like, yeah, well what happened.
He's like, I went home and I told my girl
that that I wanted to buy a Spanish Bible. And
you know what my girl said. My girl said that
that her Dia came that same morning and dropped off
a Spanish Bible. You know what I mean, like like

(42:36):
like some signs and stuff. So not only and I
acknowledge my purpose in the music industry isn't to be
a big producer, bro. It's not to be like you
know the Yeah, that's part of it. Everything comes, you know,
everything will come, We'll fall into place. But more than anything,
my heart is in being a light in the darkness.
You know what I'm saying. That's what I'm called to

(42:57):
be as a Christian, being a light in the darkness,
spreading the message. And I mean there's no better place
to do that than in the industry. There's a lot
of people, bro, that are in need.

Speaker 2 (43:06):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (43:06):
I feel like it's such a complicated industry where people
are lost and they don't know where to lean their
faith to. And I feel like maybe God put you
there for you to reach out to them, and like
I said, everybody's free to believe in what they want,
and I think there's could be a lot of like
complications and like what to believe?

Speaker 2 (43:21):
You feel?

Speaker 5 (43:22):
Like, where the fuck am I going?

Speaker 6 (43:23):
You know, because you said, you know you have big
fears about coming back and you know, going away from
your faith.

Speaker 2 (43:28):
How do you feel now?

Speaker 6 (43:29):
Like where are you at now? Like are you comfortable?
Do you like where everything's at?

Speaker 1 (43:33):
I'm really comfortable, bro. You know, I'm happy Jailp kept
his word. He's a really good dude too.

Speaker 9 (43:38):
Bro.

Speaker 1 (43:38):
Like the fact that he was able to respect that,
you know, part of the even working on the album, bro,
like that there were times where we were we still
had a we still had work to do, and he's
like he's like, hey man, You're like, you know, just
you got to go to church. I'm like yeah, because
I would tell him you got to I gotta go
to church already. He's like, no, Bro, we'll finish it tomorrow.
There's no rush. So that was that was that kind

(44:00):
of gave me that that ease, you know. And another thing, touring.
I told them I don't want to tour because that's
a whole nother ball game, you know. And I really
don't know what to expect, uh, you know, in touring,
but I don't want to do it, you know. I
don't want to be away from home. I want to
stay true to God, I don't want to stay you know,
that's my priority more than anything. I am gonna do

(44:20):
two shows though, I'm gonna do. I'm gonna do Madison
Square and I'm gonna do Hollywood Bowl. But it's funny
because Madison Square, because I thought Madison Square was in
l a bro. I spoke to my pastor. He's like, yeah,
you cool, just be careful, you know. So I'm gonna
do those two shows and maybe something else might pop

(44:41):
up later, you never know, but as of now, no tour.
So I've been going to the practices though, teaching them
how to how to play the songs, and you know,
because because we're trying to we're trying to play the songs.
We're trying to give the people exactly what they heard
and what they liked, you know, everything from the sense
to the banjoke to even though that a based like
little Homie who plays the bass too, he bought himself

(45:03):
a base that like will streat my body, you know,
a base that like you equalizing and it's like damn everything.
So they're gonna get that same sound, bro, exactly the
album sound.

Speaker 6 (45:13):
I think that's one of the best qualities in the
efforts that artists put into trying to sound exactly the
same as a recording because and you might you might
think like, oh, like like you know, that's what they're
kind of like supposed to do. But then you know,
you go see a rapper or something like that, you're like, like.

Speaker 9 (45:32):
Like.

Speaker 4 (45:37):
Jop you need a ref for that way, like.

Speaker 2 (45:39):
That's where the bars that like everywhere else, all the
effort that they put into it. I think that's that's
one of the best things.

Speaker 4 (45:45):
And then since you uh, you know, recorded produce, like
most of the songs, you gotta teach like some alone
like hey, you know, like yeah.

Speaker 5 (45:52):
I didn't say that. How's that experience? It's a little
bit more complicated.

Speaker 1 (45:56):
It's fun. He learned how to play the banjo, Bro,
he got it right away. You know, I go to
his house and you know, we practice together too, because
there's some marelos where only I know exactly how to
position the fingers and I teach him and he gets
it down. And not only that, we get to like KK,
we have a cool little conversation. Someone alone's chill bro
he's really chilli Broers. You know, he opened the doors

(46:21):
to his house and I go to his house. We'll practice,
and you know he got the songs out. Because now
our practices are like they're really specific, bro, Like we're
like by itself. Here, we'll don't make noise that al
right here, come in and we're practicing with click to sequences.
That's another thing because moy asked me, is like hey,

(46:43):
you know, uh Jap, He's asking, how are how can
we include the synths and all the sounds and the
samples live? And it's funny because at my church we
use sequences and I was able to bring that to them.
So the sequences like we use in yours, you hear
the click specifically specifically how it is in the in

(47:03):
the recording, you hear the click, the sins are going
to play. The instruments are live, completely live, so you
got to be through ches, but you got to follow
the click. Like for example, The The Godfather won too
with the screen like.

Speaker 4 (47:14):
Who's going to scream?

Speaker 10 (47:14):
Hank?

Speaker 2 (47:15):
Yeah, you got my on the mic.

Speaker 1 (47:18):
Yeah, so so you know, we're trying to do things
as as professional as we can try to. We're over
all this whole project was it took. It was taken
to the next level.

Speaker 9 (47:28):
Bro.

Speaker 1 (47:29):
It's like the next level thing, and I feel like
we're going to raise the bar. And we got way
more things come, more productions, more collapsed, more stuff. Man.

Speaker 6 (47:37):
I think it goes to show how much preparation it takes,
because like you guys are only doing you know, as
of now, two shows this year or last year it
was you know, you guys like absolutely did your thing,
but you know there was like fifty or sixty shows.
There was a lot of them, and for you guys
to like, you know, take a step back on the shows,
let's bring something new and then yeah, honestly, until you
brought it up, I had not thought about that, Like,
you know, the Screams got to.

Speaker 1 (47:57):
Be on strategy. Yeah, definitely, bro.

Speaker 4 (48:05):
And then kind of going back to the album, like
being in the studio and everything, like how do you
guys like divide the percentages like oh me moy and
like jop did like the base.

Speaker 1 (48:14):
Or so that that's more of the letter side the
songwriter percentages. That's for the people who wrote the song.
So there's there's a math to it. It's funny because
I bought a book called the Industry Bible, like the
music industry, right, the business jop had bought in the
same book. I had no idea, you know, and we

(48:34):
were both when I was when I was educating myself
on the industry. That's the book I was reading, and
it just so happened that he was reading the same book,
so he learned that there's a math to it. Let's
say Armanta George chu yin Diego write a song based
off of like the amount of lyrics they wrote, choruses
and stuff. There's a specific math to it to where

(48:56):
it's accurate and it's fair for everyone. So that's like
a word account that. Yeah, that's how is exactly. That's
how I was divided. Same thing with like me getting
my percentages on the productions. You know, we came to
an agreement too, so but me as a producer, like
in general, I'm entitled to a percentage, you know what

(49:18):
I'm saying, a specific percentage and it's gonna kick in,
and that's where I have to trust the process because
Jab told me. He's like, hey, like it was either
I get an upfront fee a fat one no percentage,
or you know, no fee and just stick with a
big percentage.

Speaker 2 (49:35):
And that's what I chose. I just I'm like, screw it.
I'm still young. You know I could.

Speaker 1 (49:40):
I could take risks. And the album's doing good. They
got really really really well. Yeah yeah, like nine months
to like a year or sometime.

Speaker 5 (49:49):
Dan, what are you gonna do when you get that
first fat check?

Speaker 1 (49:51):
I don't know, I have no idea. I want to
save though, for sure. The first thing I did though,
when I when I when I got my advant was
I catched my mama out in Mexico because she's in Mexico.
And I wanted to do that because when she was
because she just left to Mexico like two years ago,
two years ago, I wasn't I'm telling you, I was broke.

(50:12):
I had nothing to do. She couldn't sustain her, so
if I couldn't sustain myself. And it broke my heart,
bro to see her lead back to Mexico and knowing
she can't come back that thing, like, man, it made
me sad. But she's good out there, bro, and The
first thing I did was my here you go boom,
I like sent them a wire and stuff.

Speaker 2 (50:26):
They're good.

Speaker 1 (50:28):
I bought my laptop that that I make productions on
now too. It was a MacBook M four Max something
like that, like the new, the newest one, the one
that has enough ram for every Yeah. I started just
making investments bro.

Speaker 2 (50:46):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (50:46):
I bought my little keyboard and everything. I started, uh,
you know, helping my people out too.

Speaker 5 (50:53):
Yeah. And what could you tell us about the porteso Holes?
I feel like that's the song that really set the
for the whole Yeah.

Speaker 1 (51:02):
I still I still hadn't signed to the Street Mob
at the time. I put JP called me like at
eleven pm. He said, hey, what are you doing right now?
I'm like nothing. I just came back from church. He said, hey,
you're don to come in the studio. I'm like, let's
do it, bro.

Speaker 2 (51:15):
So I pull up.

Speaker 1 (51:17):
They showed me the song and he did a collab
with with Kids Super Kids Super. He's like super involved
in fashion, bro. You know he's he's he designed the
logo to the logo, art, the cover, he designed all that.

Speaker 2 (51:36):
He's a genius. I got.

Speaker 1 (51:37):
I got to meet him and he's a really cool
dude locked in. So when he did that collab, he
said that kid super I told him I want, I
want something at Capella, you know, because it was it
was for the fashion week. That was a song we
we only did. We're only going to use We're only
going to use half of the song, half of the
song for fashion week. So you know, I go in

(51:57):
there and and I grabbed like, hey, dude doing it
with So I did the jo. That's not that's not
a production I made from scratch. The song was already there.
Matter of fact, it was already recorded like music and everything.
Joe just you know, I had just came in. I
was getting involved with him. He wanted to see what
I could bring, what I could do, So you know,
I did that little intro. It's like really basically I

(52:20):
didn't like it at first, though. He was like, if
you know, you know, if you know you know, And
I recorded the instruments. That same night, I did meet
your Padre by Drake and Chino podcast.

Speaker 2 (52:33):
I want to meet.

Speaker 1 (52:37):
And I think I don't know if I could say this,
but Drake had He was on the phone with Drake
and Drake had told him like, hey man, we we
and I remember they're hearing.

Speaker 2 (52:46):
I'm like, what the he listen.

Speaker 1 (52:51):
And he's like, yeah, just just add at your Mexican
sauce on at your touch, like whatever, you guys, just
do your thing.

Speaker 2 (52:58):
You know.

Speaker 1 (52:58):
The end of the song is like the it's it's cornelo, bro,
straight up. So I was like, how can we fuse it?
How can we fuse that the how can we do
the transition from hip hop to you know what I'm
saying to Corrios. So we kind of brainstormed a little
bit and stuff. We brainstormed, and you know, it happened, bro,

(53:21):
And from there that's when I started working way more
with but I think that's what set off the the
whole vibe and.

Speaker 4 (53:29):
Then the song me or Padre that's and also in
the rumor, was it like you know, wasn't there Yeah?
It would just jokey helping him out.

Speaker 2 (53:39):
Okay, yeah, it's funny.

Speaker 9 (53:41):
Bro.

Speaker 1 (53:41):
When I started seeing all the memes, I was like, Bro,
I started laughing. I'll be at a church in my
homie has his phone and he shows me up like
bro locky, like when.

Speaker 4 (53:50):
You're dance, And then I kind of want to go
back to like the like the percentages for the clip
you were seeing, how this like a math to it
is a chorus worth more than like the first two verses, it's.

Speaker 2 (54:05):
All equally, it should be equal.

Speaker 1 (54:08):
I'm not I'm not sure. I don't really know much.

Speaker 5 (54:10):
I mean I kind of get what you asked that
because of course one of the most catchy.

Speaker 1 (54:14):
I never thought of that, that that actually be Yeah,
that'd be valid.

Speaker 5 (54:18):
Damn.

Speaker 4 (54:18):
And you didn't read the book.

Speaker 1 (54:23):
Can't even read. I read like a page bro.

Speaker 4 (54:26):
I bought it though.

Speaker 6 (54:28):
I think after this, we're going to go buy the
book and see what see what numbers it's talking about
on the book. I think it's really really for everybody
to I mean, for all the most goals, you know,
I feel like I think you're really putting them on game.

Speaker 2 (54:38):
I think you're showing, you know, you're like, oh, I
don't want to be called more like you're not that
no more.

Speaker 6 (54:44):
But for people that are still you know, like style
ortas guy, how can they do more? How can they
be more? And seeing like how far you've gone, I
think that, you know, I think you might start like
sort of a trend.

Speaker 2 (54:57):
In inspiring you know, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, definitely.

Speaker 1 (54:59):
I do see that happening, and I feel like the
people that are gonna come after me, like, you know,
the producers are gonna be way better. Bro, They're gonna
like that's just how it is by law, you know,
and that that's what I want to do as well.

Speaker 2 (55:10):
I want that trend. Yeah, that's cool.

Speaker 5 (55:12):
I feel like you really know what your purpose is.
You know, you like music, but you know your your
front center is God. He's the one that gives you
the blessing and these opportunities. And I think I think
you're serving your right purpose in my opinion.

Speaker 4 (55:26):
And then also I remember the day that the album dropped,
we talked to and they were saying, how like there
was a total like forty five songs they had to
choose from. Was there a song that almost didn't make
it on the album?

Speaker 2 (55:40):
Sancho was not gonna make it?

Speaker 1 (55:43):
Bro was sad.

Speaker 2 (55:45):
I was bummed out. What was the reason?

Speaker 10 (55:47):
It was?

Speaker 1 (55:49):
Okay, you know the second part of the song, so
back then it before they added that part, it was repetitive.

Speaker 2 (55:56):
It was just from the first.

Speaker 1 (56:00):
Job was like, I don't know, like it's missing something.
We were we were actually you know, it's funny they
wanted George George George. I still don't know how to
pronounce it, George George George. They wanted George to rewrite it.
And this was when I was editing on my laptop.

Speaker 2 (56:20):
I was editing.

Speaker 1 (56:20):
I was editing to Sancho. I was adding synse and stuff,
you know, the little I was adding all that stuff.
And George was in the room with me and he
was like, he's.

Speaker 2 (56:31):
Like, have bro and that.

Speaker 1 (56:35):
And that's when we started writing no.

Speaker 5 (56:40):
Bro.

Speaker 1 (56:40):
He told me said, hey, Manuel, let's create something new.
And I was like, bro, leave me alone. I'm trying
to edit in my head, trying to edit, but he
thought blocked in and I was like, screw it. I'll
just opened a new session. And and that's when came.
I was brought to life. That's when I took out
the keyboard and I started with the I was browsing sounds,
Bro sounds because I bought a bunch of sounds, Like,

(57:02):
I bought a lot of sounds, a lot of.

Speaker 2 (57:03):
Sound pack was at advance to put that work.

Speaker 1 (57:07):
Yeah, So I was like browsing sounds and I remember
playing the first you know, the intro, putting bring ding dinging.
So I played the first chord pring and like so,
and I was like nice whack. He's like trust me,
and I just kept going to bring ping ping pring
and he was like them. And then Jo walks in

(57:28):
and he's like, well, like what are all doing? He's
come to my room real quick. So we go into
Jailp's room and and they're writing. And I remember right
then and there, I was like, bro, I have an idea.
Why don't we just add like a big sub base
you wanted to pull out the project.

Speaker 5 (57:43):
Yeah, we got to visually see you to see the project.

Speaker 4 (57:46):
And this is crazy, like the stream of house, like
everyone's in there work. Actually you know the house is
in there. I mean the houses store there, but.

Speaker 2 (57:55):
Like the remodeling.

Speaker 1 (57:56):
Yeah. Yeah, so we've been at We've been at at
a warehouse recently. The warehouses is where they had the event,
the TikTok live and stuff.

Speaker 2 (58:06):
And that's what we put in the work.

Speaker 4 (58:10):
We put in the work, how much. That's what we
got this too, Joe Joey, we need front road tickets.
We were put in the one TikTok.

Speaker 3 (58:18):
We were like that you need you know, no final
nine you get this everywhere.

Speaker 4 (58:24):
I remember you could get Bucks number one, the CD
and talk people yo, yo.

Speaker 3 (58:34):
Check out, check out, check out.

Speaker 4 (58:36):
There's two hundred people with people in the car, everybody
to check out.

Speaker 2 (58:42):
It was like check out, like Joey signed them right now.

Speaker 3 (58:45):
Oh my god. That was stressful.

Speaker 9 (58:47):
Home.

Speaker 1 (58:48):
This is literally my setup.

Speaker 3 (58:50):
That's that's all you need.

Speaker 1 (58:52):
That's all you need. You don't need much, I know, choosing.

Speaker 2 (58:55):
To watch this and be like, well, I have the
same hard drives pretty much, just don't you have that? Yeah,
well you have this that you have it.

Speaker 4 (59:03):
Guys, make sure to invest in your stuff, like maybe
you say you do know he bought like the best
of the newest laptop that goes to you, Brandon too.
And Brandon our editor had like an oldest laptop, like
it didn't have an.

Speaker 3 (59:15):
App on the bag. It was a pair. But you
actually needed an oil change to his camera was like.

Speaker 2 (59:22):
Look at it, look look at he's ready. Yeah.

Speaker 6 (59:25):
But I think advice is that if you do have
the funds, try to spend money on your craft.

Speaker 2 (59:31):
Try to buy the tools that you know that you need.
And I think that's gonna pay off.

Speaker 3 (59:34):
And if you don't, that's okay.

Speaker 2 (59:36):
Be creative.

Speaker 5 (59:37):
Yeah, I feel like you don't need the best stuff
to start. Just start and then as you go, as
you make progress, if you win.

Speaker 6 (59:43):
I'm just saying that once you got the bread, you know, like,
spend it on that. Yeah, like don't don't go buy
the shirt and shrews don't get it and and the match.

Speaker 5 (59:52):
You know, if you get a laptop, if you get
a fat advance and your transmissions bad, fix the transmission.

Speaker 2 (01:00:02):
And if you get a fat advance, maybe you want
to get insurance and maybe register your car.

Speaker 6 (01:00:08):
You know what today if you get if they can
fix the potholes on the road, maybe, Jason, I think
with the money from the cart, they could fix upon
the beautiful city was Minster.

Speaker 2 (01:00:18):
I can see.

Speaker 5 (01:00:18):
I have one more to that just kidding is investing yourself.
I feel like that's the best thing you could do
in your health.

Speaker 3 (01:00:29):
To me, I don't.

Speaker 5 (01:00:33):
Yeah, man, he was like that BM been there. He's like,
I learned to follow you Wait you uh what dog
do you use?

Speaker 3 (01:00:48):
Like he's trying to use that one.

Speaker 5 (01:00:52):
Able to garage.

Speaker 4 (01:00:55):
He's like, get down, Jason, He's gonna watch and be
like he knows about dog.

Speaker 2 (01:01:00):
Get him give him a someone, get his number. I
need to talk about advance, he jay an, what.

Speaker 4 (01:01:11):
You need to want to.

Speaker 3 (01:01:12):
Tune the guitar right here?

Speaker 5 (01:01:13):
Drop the standard tuning, trying to find the project?

Speaker 2 (01:01:17):
Give me a second? Did not you have so many things?

Speaker 9 (01:01:20):
Bro?

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Speaker 2 (01:01:34):
Ticket Shut the City, Shot the City.

Speaker 1 (01:01:36):
See Darling was like, she looks so I don't know
how to play piano, Bro, Just figure things out. So, oh,
you know what I'm saying. That's what I started with.

Speaker 2 (01:01:58):
And then I went on to you. So I came
up with that and I was like.

Speaker 3 (01:02:08):
Or grabbed the guitar and well that plays?

Speaker 2 (01:02:10):
Then fired was this? So then that's when I came
up with than na chack. You know what I'm saying.
I added that that's fire. That joke always be walking
in with the best people, and I was like, you know,

(01:02:34):
that's when I came up with.

Speaker 4 (01:02:38):
Mm hmmm, that's fired, y'all can hear that?

Speaker 2 (01:02:44):
Yeah? And then watched you could.

Speaker 1 (01:02:47):
You do.

Speaker 2 (01:02:49):
The guitar?

Speaker 1 (01:02:50):
Is it too? Well?

Speaker 5 (01:02:54):
Well, you were playing.

Speaker 3 (01:02:55):
That's what you're here.

Speaker 5 (01:03:05):
There, you guys go.

Speaker 2 (01:03:07):
It's bagel book. I'm a book.

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Speaker 2 (01:04:01):
Usually how they come out.

Speaker 9 (01:04:02):
Bro.

Speaker 1 (01:04:05):
I need about the banjo Loki.

Speaker 4 (01:04:07):
I think that's so crazy too, Like I feel like,
I mean, I wouldn't have the creativity to even think
about something like that, you know, like the.

Speaker 5 (01:04:15):
Yeah, is there any other you want to add in
the future you want to experiment with?

Speaker 4 (01:04:21):
I can't tell you about the secret or aside from
the banjo that was used, were there any other instruments
that maybe, like the.

Speaker 3 (01:04:27):
Fans didn't catch We did the steel guitar. That's like
the metal looking guitar, right, the one that goes dy
at the bar.

Speaker 1 (01:04:36):
So we used what was it, the electric guitar and
in the background, I used the steel guitar, which has it's.

Speaker 5 (01:04:46):
The glass and the thing.

Speaker 3 (01:04:47):
Right, that's crazy, that's actually came out.

Speaker 2 (01:04:51):
I came up with the sins right here too, that
people says when you walked in with that one, I
was like, yeah, look what ideas? Watch?

Speaker 5 (01:05:02):
I think this is a new wave.

Speaker 1 (01:05:03):
Bro.

Speaker 4 (01:05:07):
Where is it that now people got to pay big
books to get men on their songs?

Speaker 2 (01:05:11):
You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 3 (01:05:12):
The books can the pain v books?

Speaker 1 (01:05:15):
See?

Speaker 2 (01:05:15):
I came up with this e B T E B
T credit we lay away and yes, I like you,
I don't know. I don't even know how to play
telling just I could even make some right now.

Speaker 5 (01:05:42):
That is this is probably what you hear when God
comes through, when the priest backs up, when they chose
a new post.

Speaker 2 (01:05:53):
Good.

Speaker 1 (01:05:57):
I think it's, oh my gosh, hold up, lucky guys.
I might have to say that in my mind, I'm
not to say that y'all could put it.

Speaker 3 (01:06:05):
And you don't know how to play the piano. It's
just like ear ear.

Speaker 1 (01:06:08):
And like feel like let's say, see, I'm I just
I messed up already. But that's how, that's how the
productions come out.

Speaker 2 (01:06:20):
Or I could even and then okay, you know what
I'm saying, stuff like that's gonna be the that's what
JP walks into the Madison Square Garden to imagine that sounds.
Imagine I trying to nowhere the hole in the middle

(01:06:42):
with all the lights from everywhere. He comes down like
with the string how Kanye, Yeah, you know something like.

Speaker 6 (01:06:49):
Michael Jackson starts from the on the on the little
wire thing, and then that sounds no one's ever done that.

Speaker 2 (01:06:56):
Follow them in the college.

Speaker 1 (01:06:58):
I'd be like, Joe Pint got ain't got a single song.
We gotta be doing all that, you know, the way
they did it to what's his name, the Big Food.

Speaker 5 (01:07:09):
The wasn't a drake, No, just.

Speaker 1 (01:07:14):
He was working in like right away broway, anybody felt
he felt off.

Speaker 2 (01:07:20):
Like should we?

Speaker 10 (01:07:24):
Uh?

Speaker 5 (01:07:29):
Okay, yeah, okay, that's more than enough.

Speaker 2 (01:07:32):
Damn bro.

Speaker 5 (01:07:34):
Honestly, it's been an experience just you know, listening to
the stuff and your story is pretty amazing as well.
Just it's motivating, you know, as a person that believes
in God and all those people that you know, I
want to be a musician, be a producer. You know,
I think the new trend is going to be like
getting getting a percentage being business smart too, like if
that yeah, like if you have some sort of skill

(01:07:57):
you you want to be Like in the music industry,
it's not just about being good at the music, like,
you gotta take care of yourself and make sure your
career that you're gonna be good a with your career.
So thank you for you know, all the insight.

Speaker 2 (01:08:08):
No thank you, bro Levi.

Speaker 6 (01:08:10):
I won't want to ask, like what message do you
send or what advice do you give to the artists
that you know are still kind of like boxed up?
You know, they kind of put them in that category,
like you know, that's what you're doing. You're not a mask.
What would you tell them?

Speaker 1 (01:08:21):
You gotta educate yourself. You gotta be sober minded too,
being clear, a lot of people are trapped into their
own little world. They box themselves in, they're stuck in
cycles and they can't think outside the box because they're
so boxed in with you know, you gotta you gotta
break the routine more than anything. And one thing I'm

(01:08:43):
big on people always ask me for advice too, Like
whatever would you give me.

Speaker 2 (01:08:46):
Pray.

Speaker 1 (01:08:48):
Pray, bro, every single day, every single second. Pray in
your mind and God, God will put the wisdom in you.
You'll give you wisdom. I feel like, literally, bro, you know,
when I came back in less than a year, all
of these things happened, you know, because you know I
was praying and I you know, I just I was

(01:09:10):
receiving the wisdom and I was like, Okay, what can
I do with this? I started thinking outside the box
and I just started doing it. I started doing things.
You got to take risks sometimes too, kind of like
you know how I was taking money out of my
pocket just to make it happen and it ended.

Speaker 2 (01:09:22):
Up going far.

Speaker 5 (01:09:25):
Congratulate all your success. I think this is just the
beginning of what you have. And thank you for your time.

Speaker 4 (01:09:30):
Thank you, appreciate, and thank you to everyone who watched
till the end. Comment down below if you guys want
a part two of this podcast episode to get to
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Speaker 5 (01:09:47):
And if you want them for your song, bring a
fat bag need

Speaker 2 (01:09:52):
Less one hundred k come correct