February 16, 2024 • 51 mins
Usher's halftime performance, The Vince Staples Show on Netflix, I finally got an update from 'Carpenter Bae' + the crew debates the politics of confirming and cancelling dates!
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Yaser for the record with Angelina,what's up. I'm Angelina, I'm Chris,
I'm angel Leek, I'm a bperiod and fus Chris is behind the
camera. In this week's episode.And for the Culture, we're talking about
some heartbreak that happened this past Sunday, but also Ushers halftime Show and Let's
Talk TV, a brand new showis coming to Netflix. And in Bitch,
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I give an update on Carpenter Bayand we talk about canceling dates.
By all means, let's get toit. This is for the culture,
for the culture, for the culture. This is where we pick a headline
and ask if they, she orhe did it for the culture. I'm
gonna just get this part out theway. Though I was doing so good
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and I wanted to talk about theNiners leading up because you know, I
don't want to jinx it when SuperBowl is approaching. We did not talk
about it in any of the episodes. I'll just say, I don't know,
it's still it's it's it's a stinger, so sad literally forever. It
was hands down, not hands down, but it definitely was one of the
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worst loss losses in forty nine ER'shistory. And I know a lot of
people are like blaming it on theno holding call, and like I think
when you lose like that on abig stage, it's like easy. Everyone
wants to point a finger, youwant to blame the coach, you want
to blame certain players. But like, all in all, it was a
team loss. There was a lotof missed opportunities. We should have had
like seventeen points going into halftime.Right if you have turnovers and don't refuse
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to score on turnovers, like you'rejust already gonna battle and appeal. I
don't know what that's saying is havean upheel battle. So yeah, that
was a heartbreaker. Rock Party thoughhe did a solid job. But yeah,
I mean, I'll be classy andgive it to Patrick Mahomes. He
really is the goat. It's fuckinghard to beat them his fucking seth rogen
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laugh sound and ass come with thefrog of the fuckers. No, he's
like literally the go He probably willpass on Bretty's record and it's really hard
to be him. And like Isaid, brock Party was solid, but
like he's just not in the sameuniverse as my Homes And like obviously one
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if we won maybe that wouldn't havebeen a conversation. Maybe it would have,
but got to give credit words dueand it was just a team loss
all around. And I don't wantto sound like a Cowboys fan and say
that we'll be back next year,but like, we'll be back next year.
Maybe we probably will. I thinkat one point I was feeling like
I'd rather just be trash, likeI'm so tired of like making it every
year and like not winning. Butlike that's a lie. I want to
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be trashed like some of your guys'teams. So yeah, anyways, Well,
isn't the super Bowl coming here nextyear? So like you know,
yeah, I'm pretty sure they are. Yeah, wow that someone told me.
I don't know. My class toldme that time it gets there will
be. I thought, if youwere going to super Bowl, you couldn't
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have it at your your home.Well we don't know, Oh, I
guess we don't know. Well thescript the scripts are coming then, will
not be? It is coming toClara yeah right, leave stadium. Yeah,
they already going to host it nextyear. I think it's twenty twenty
six. So like if the Ninersgo, that would be dope because it
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could be their home, but Iguess they won't get the cut. They
won't go, they won't go.So didn't somebody just say that if if
a place is hosting it, theteam can't play, well, they can't
not like like yeah the rule.Maybe they have like like a tentative place,
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but then like, oh, ifthe Niners go, then we got
to move somewhere else. I feellike that's not a thing at all.
Like what, you go undefeated andyou can't play the super Bowl because it's
in your hometown. Let me letme google this real quick. Hold on,
hold on, please please hold twentyfour Only two teams have played the
super Bowl in their stadium, soyou can, okay, okay, they
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just want to go where the money, where the money flows, and like
Levy Stadium is it's huge, likeand it's been yeah the Rams, that's
so fine. Oh wait, wehad it a couple of years ago.
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah,it was like before it was actually a
cold Play but it was yeh,who is she? I don't know her?
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Just kidding love cold Play down,but Beyonce Bruno clearly stole the show.
And who stole the show from me? Yeah? The best part of
Sunday Night was usher mother fucking Raymond. His first song, caught Up was
not I did. It wasn't mytop three. I didn't even think it
was like. Hearing it, Iwas like, I know it was good,
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but I was coming in. Ididn't take that. I like your
guys' idea of what the songs.That what he was going to open up
with, yeah, directed like minewas open with Daddy's Home. Oh yeah,
yeah, I just want to getyour attention. Stop Pyro Pyro.
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That's a good opener too. Ithought he was going to open up too
bad girl one. Yeah, that'sa good but also caught Up was good
though I did not see that comingat all see it coming. Also,
I'm not gonna I don't not likecaught Up. But I think when it
was out, like I remember itbeing like on one to six a Park,
and I I wasn't in love withit. Really, it's like probably
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my favorite song on the Confessions album. I'm not gonna lie, Okay,
I think I don't know which oneit was. Let It Burn on that
album that been my favorite, letIt Burn. But he didn't even do
Daddy's Home at All's Home. Andbut I'm glad he went through like he
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did most of his R and Bship Like it was very R and B.
It was very hip hop, youknow. I will say I wish
it was like five seconds of asong versus like two three yeah songs,
so it's like how do you getthrough album? But it did feel a
little a little quick, like rightwhen I'm like ready to sing, it's
like to the next one and slow. It was just seven o'clock on the
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dot and then it switched. Iwas I wasn't ready for that. I
needed a little bit more. Iwanted to hear Lovers and Friends. I
was so bummed about Lovers and Friends, especially because they were all up there,
up there. They could have totallytook that opportunity, but I guess
can't do them all. Superstar though, even though he just did the intro,
I thought that, I thought ofyou is a win for you guys.
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I did like the roller blade wasdope. The how they were all
in sync. He killed one ofthe dancers. I don't know if you
guys caught in the very beginning,he like bent backwards and he used his
like head to like roller blade throughthe stage. Yes, the skates,
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the whole production was insane, likethe Vegas theme. They nailed it.
Yeah, it was really good.A lot going on. Al piano was
fire. Yeah, like the pianomaybe a good transition to go into the
bath. No Alicia the first note, Like I would have been okay if
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they cut that whole part out.I'm not gonna lie. Yeah, it
was a little surprised that she wasgoing to be there, But that's cool.
You know she the very first whichis crazy because they went and edited
it off YouTube. Did they editedit out because she cracked like her voice
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at that ship. Yeah, andlike auto like side note just about the
world. Like, that's so crazy. I can see years from now people
like arguing, people arguing whether ornot it was like a good or bad
performance, Like there's any people whoremember her cracking and be like, okay,
let's pull it up on YouTube.No. Wow, I never even
thought about it like that. That'show you change the narrative. That's how
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you change the narrative. The power. That's crazy. Her dress was fire
though, Yeah, she shouldn't saidto that. The chemistry. I love
that. Don't leave your girl aroundme? True playing for that? He
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did. You don't have to callalso, I mean, he did all
the hits. It was amazing,and I feel like it did exactly what
halftime show was supposed to do,Like you're supposed to be, like,
wow, this person has catalog andlike, unfortunately Usher has been lately severely
underrated, Like he is one ofthe biggest starts. He gave us one
of the best R and B albums. But like the fact that it was
even like a conversation if he shoulddo halftime is insane, and I think
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he proved that point. Like bitch, I got hits on hits, I'm
a performer. Yeahs her noise,she did that. I love that she
killed it. She did she Imean she her starting too is just like
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on YouTube, right, she wasjust like saying something and Ellen saw her
and she was on all these likegood morning shows. I love. I
love that storyline. Like now you'reat the fucking super Bowl and you're like,
not even thirty, let's go.And she's sang when she was little
too, like a throwback of likebeing at the super Bowl singing oh wow,
that's right. Definitely full circle forher. Oh my god, could
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you imagine could you imagine? Noshe was she was fired, and I
loved, like, yeah, whenLudacris came out, I just got like
so like the hip hop. Megot really happy. And the part that
I thought was really dope when Ludahad came out and he was doing his
yeah verse, they played the FreakingLeague beat and now she was fired,
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and I remember like coming back towork and me and my coworkers were specifically
talking about that part. It justsounded really dope. So now stuff has
been coming out. How like LittleJohn was like the main one to like
produce the whole show. But healso I didn't know this. He mentioned
that ushers Yeah was originally recorded tothe Freak League beat. Oh wow.
Interesting. I didn't know that.And then I guess Peop Papa wouldn't put
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it out, didn't want to giveit to him, so well, John
didn't want to take it, andhe just like flipped it. So essentially
the beat is essentially the Freak Leaguebeat. He just like switched some parts
out and he's like, I'm gladwe did it because like, yeah,
it wouldn't have been yeah right,yeah, but is one of the best
beats ever, Like to this day, people we have like there's like three
samples already of it, like peoplecontinue to wrap over it's one of the
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best beats ever. But oh no, my mind was blown and like that
made that moment even cooler. LikeI thought that was dope that he was
just wrapping over it, like itjust seemed to hip hop as fuck.
And then to know that, like, oh this actually could have been Yeah,
like no, wonder why he's likeriding the beat so so too.
Yeah, so that ship was fire. Where are we ranking this as far
as like top halftime performances? Happy, I feel like I want to do
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top five, really, top tenfor sure. I'm just trying to think
of other ones. I don't know. Lady got Katie Ferry, Beyonce,
well, like number one for me, Michael Michael, yeah, Michael's Yeah.
It's just like he's like sitting therefor like two minutes straight and everyone's
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just going shit crazy and he likedoesn't even sing it out like for like
two whole minutes. Everyone's just likescreaming, losing their fucking Yeah. Yeah,
it's known to be like one ofthe best ones for sure. Okay,
Yeah, it's like MJ, sonumber one, you forget to count
it. It's like Michael Jackson,Prince and then we're gonna rank the rest,
and at number three is Beyonce andBruno. For me, I gotta
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look at the rest of them too. You're right, it's a toughye,
But is sure over Rihanna's last year, for sure, I say easy.
Yeah, Yeah, It's a hardto judge Rihanna because she end up being
pregnant. You know that scratch alot of stuff, But for sure,
I think now it's safe to say, like, yeah, it wasn't it
wasn't the greatest, It wasn't terrible. It was that was Paris Globals,
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which is the choreographer who did it. It was her super Bowl. It
wasn't h Yeah, it was Rihanna, of course, but like she that
was that was all her planning.I mean, love her songs, but
yeah, and I think and hersdid do what exactly the super Bowl needs
to do. Like it was atthe end of the day, You're like,
damn, we only got catalog.But it was nothing like crazy pregnanty.
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Yeah, the coolest part was herlike doing her makeup, like Okay,
your rich bitch, you got makeup, you got anywhere and Nama shout
out to usher. He's a man, okay, one of the goats,
minus the camera man being a littlewonky in the beginning. And Alice Keys,
I don't think she get in hervoice back. But other than that,
the man got hits on hits.It was amazing him harmonizing all his
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records, taking his shirt off,doing his little dance the guest stars.
I thought it was amazing and Ineed to find a way to create an
OnlyFans or sell some feet picks soI get tickets to his upcoming tour.
He is coming to Oakland. Let'stalk TV everyone. After the show is
over, After this podcast is over, take your little asses to Netflix,
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take your little fingers and type inthe Vince Staples Show. It is out
now. It dropped at midnight onThursday, February fifteenth, Right is that
Thursday yesterday? Yes? So VinceStaple. Yeah, he got his own
Netflix show. If you don't knowwho Vince Stables is, He's one of
my favorite rappers out aside from thoseboys at Griselda. I really don't think
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anyone could out rap Vin Staples likeI love Kendrick. I think Vin Staples
could out rap Kendrake like I knowthat's my hot take. When it comes
bar for Barr, not hits wise, but obviously Kendrick's career. Rap career
is better, discography is better.But when it comes bar for Bar,
I think Vince Staples could wrap alot of these new guys on the scene.
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However, aside from my love forhim as a rapper, he's always
going viral for his interviews. Everyoneswears up and down that he's the funniest
guy ever. We need to puthim on TV, and now here he
is on TV. Okay, you'reat your prayers haven't answered. I'm not
exactly sure what it's about. Isaw the trailer. It does seem pretty
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scrissid earlier like it seemed like alittle dick. I don't know if it's
necessarily Vince Staples story, like onVince Stables a rapper, this is how
I become a rapper. But maybeI don't know. I gotta watch it.
It does seem like he is playinga regular version of himself, and
like a lot of it's based onmaybe actual events he's gone through, growing
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up in LA and being in agang, et cetera. Is it is
it a comedy? Yeah, it'sdefinitely a comedy. Yeah, it's a
comedy show. It's no, no, no, no, it's definitely not
a docu series. It's like he'sjust not playing himself. But I'm sure
he's playing from like stuff he knowsfrom his life. I see, you
know what I mean? Like nextweek we'll be able to come with a
real review and what it's about andhow funny it was and if it's that
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good or not. But please gowatch the Vince Staples show. This is
what I'm looking up right now,like what it's supposed to be about.
This is what the La Times issaying online. There we go. Yeah,
I see the description says Vince Staplesplays a regular guy version of himself.
Infix and Netflix is a stable show, gap tooth Wrapper and Active Stables
has a series. Why do theydescribe it that way? Gas, I
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don't have a damn La Times.What is it? I'm offended. I
looked at I forgot him. Okay, describes it limited comedic series London.
Look, Okay, that's crazy.Vin Stables navigates life as a kind of
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famous, kind of rich, kindof criminal, but not really rapper.
But I didn't even realize. Now, Okay, We just got a couple
of gap to write that the LaTimes that was not his, that was
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on a podcast. Not y'all loveit at eighties gap. Maybe your gap
is beautiful. You go see iton our Instagram. Had to underscore emtr
pod go support the Vincample show itNeflix. I said, bitch, if
you wanted to go to Taylor's,just tell her brother you want to go
to Taylor You said that. Ohhell yeah, man, I laid it
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out right, I said, Isaid, I said, I said,
bitch, all right, bitch.So do you guys remember last week?
I told you it's been a weekand I have not heard from We'll go
ahead, carp this, Carpenter,it's been a week, you said,
you guys remember last week? Iwas like, we went on too amazing
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dates. And then I was like, okay, we had talked on that
like that Saturday, and then werecorded the podcast on Thursday, and I
was like, yeah, I havenot heard from at all, Like he
hasn't text me nothing. Yeah,produce Chris even be like, no,
it's just the middle of the week. We're like, no, it's Thursday,
Sunday again, like it's gonna bea full seven days, so he
did text me. Oh okay,okay, okay, so text me on
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Saturday, I had a Warrior's gameshouts and Angelique she came out to support.
Okay, I have to pull thescreenshot out. So he texted you
six days after let me let metell you, yes, it was six
days. Let me pull the textout first. Okay, you guys,
this is for real, so terrible. Okay, I'm pulling out a thing,
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you guys. Also, I don'tknow if anyone else does this,
but sometimes with like if I'm likeexpecting a text message or I have like
anxiety about it, I'll like deletethe text thread and that means it didn't
happen. No, that's just sowhen I deleted it, like if he
never would to hit me up,like that never happened because I deleted the
text thread. If that orcs foryou, girl, that works for you.
If I send a risky text,okay, I've been doing pretty good
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not doing it anymore, even thoughI just did it this past week.
No. I used to be though, yeah, please say, do you
mean you are in an argument?Right? And I send you a risky
text and I'm like anticipating your textmessage, but I'm tired of waiting for
it. I'll delete the text threadand that means it didn't happen, like
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like you know if people throw theirphone because I don't want to look at
it anymore doing that, like,yeah, you don't want to print it,
email nothing, No, that's myoption, no receipts, do not
do it. No, but okay, I used to be really bad.
Side story. One time I wastalking to this guy. We did not
have a good altercation, and Isent a very risky text. We didn't
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have altercation, but like we thetime we met up, it was just
embarrassing. It was not good.I sent a very risky text. This
this is my crazy days. I'mnot like this anymore. I sent a
risky text. I get to work. I don't want to see anymore.
Like if you respond like, I'mlike, I have anxiety. So I
delete the text thread. It neverhappened. This is when I worked at
the front desk and I heard andI'm waiting, Oh you guys right when
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I deleted the message, my phonevibrated, so he literally texted me as
I was deleting the text thread,so you didn't see the message. No,
So I go back to the frontdesk, which I'm like trying to
find ways you could like recover,which I called team to God, I
called and I was like, isthere any way I could retrieve these?
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No? I was down bad.I swear I'm not like that anymore five
years ago, ma'am your plan orsometimes you can look at like call logs,
they could know you're for evidence andstuff like I think it's because I
message, because technically you could actuallyif it's like green text messages, so
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android winters. You guys are actuallywinning. If you were a crazy bitch
in my situation and you had anAndroid, you would have been able to
retrieve that message maybe, but becauseit was I message, they weren't able
to do it. So I hadto send a second risky text and make
up a lie of why I didn'tjust get that, because I had to
say in the ocean and I don'tknow what I told him, but it
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was something so embarrassing along the linesof, hey, I didn't get your
last message, but oh God,just replaying this in my head, like
telling the story I was insane.I was actually insane, but I think
I made up a lie. Waslike man for whatever reason I didn't get
her text that you just sent me. But whatever, I just want to
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apologize about whatever whatever, like Iwent back to the topic at hand,
So embarrassing would the message? Nobut his He did respond to me and
it was very respectable, like okaymessage. But then we eventually followed each
other off socials. But that weregood me did him follow each other?
We're great Off the record. Iused to be insane. I can't believe
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I literally called him T Mobile.That's crazy who used to work to my
desk with me. She was probablyjust looking at me like this bitch is
so crazy, has seen me atmy worst because we miss you no so
much. Emma really saw me downbad. She saw me calling up T
Mobile, deleting text threads, somany hungover days coming into work. She
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saw me the day after. Ifyou're a day one for the record fan
this story the day I fortunately gotarrested. You no longer delete the dread.
Yeah, well I did do itthis past Saturday, because oh no,
I was just writing AV. Iwas like, if he is ghost
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to me, like, I don'twant to like be dumb and text him.
You get what I say? SoI already didn't save his number,
and I know, like if Iever was in a mode to self sabotage
and like text this man embarrassingly,I was like, that's not gonna happen.
So that's why I deleted the text. I was like, you know
what, if he goes to me, let me just go ahead and delete
his number and like let him dothat, because yeah, I'm like,
we're coming up on almost day seven. And then Angelina would call Apple to
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see if she could recover the numbers. Yeah, I know, see that.
That's not like anymore. I don'tdo anywhere. I don't call customer
service anywhere to get number. Butthat's what was going in my head.
Okay, okay, So Saturday,I'm working Seed OFS and I get a
little text message. Oh I deletedthat part, damn it. So what
do you have the screenshot? Butit was something along with the lions.
It was something along the lines.Because I ran out to Angelique, he
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said something like oh what was it? Because he worded it that he was
like hey, smiley face. Andthen he sent a second message and he
was like did it. Almost thoughtI wasn't going to find your number.
Four A second was like a sweatyemoji. He said, yes, he
did say that. I thought Iwas He said, I thought I wasn't
going to find your number again,so he lost it or he's also right
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confused, and I was like,okay, let's just scroll down. But
then I'm like, yeah, somany bitches that you're like, yeah,
dive in. So I think Iresponded like, oh, like you deleted
my number already or something like SEMIKEIwith someone like what the fuck? Yeah,
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yeah, he said, sends mea picture of his phone, and
he said, my old phone stoppedworking, so I had I had to
buy a new one. So hehad a little type of there, and
all my recent numbers didn't get savedon my iCloud. I paid someone to
try and fix the phone, andthey were able to fix it today.
Ha ha. Do you believe him? I didn't believe him. Oh you
didn't believe him? No, because, first of all, if it was
me, I'm not going twenty fourhours without a working phone, Like,
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how are you going to go awhole week without a phone? Well,
no, he didn't have a phone. Yeah, you couldn't get the numbers,
that's what. Yeah, So whatI think I think he got a
new phone right away because he doesneed it for work. And I think
he said, but eventually I endup paying someone to fix his old phone
so I could get my old numbersor he was like, I'm so in
love with that bitch, I'm actuallygoing to pay someone so I could just
get her number. No, I'mjust I don't know if it was just
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for me, but I think hewas saying that he already got a new
phone for work. So where youguys at now, what's going on right
today in the bay? Bids todayin the bay? I do believe him.
I mean, you really can't putanything past anyone, like people are
crazy. But I do feel likeit's too early to come up with that
like specific ass lie, Like whymake up a lie like that? Like
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that's like o d like like abitch, I'm just hitting you on days
sex Like I could just been like, hey, what's up right? You
know? So he's like not onlyone acknowledging that, Hey, it's been
six days since I've text you,but also this is the reason why I've
text you, And oh my god, I thought I was never gonna find
your number again. I like,you know, I like the hey,
I know it's been a while,but it's because of it, like you
know, like yeah right, Imean whatever, like whether it was a
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lie or not. I kind ofin the moment was just happy that this
mother Parker is still alive. Andhe texted me, yeah, I'll firm
that because I was there. Actually, no one's jumping up and down,
kicking a screaming yeah, anyone makesAnd he texts me because she was so
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cute, were taking away thriving.So he did finally text me, what
was the last text? Where areyou guys at right now? I'm not
gonna take the details. No,we're just texting casual like our last text.
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I don't know he sent pictures ofhis dog or something. I do
want to bring that up, though, because I originally shared the Carpenter based
story, because there's this actual postthat's going viral on TikTok right now and
it has to do with someone nottexting a person within a week. So
we're gonna get into that, butreal quick, I do want to talk
about letting conversations die. I literallywas just talking about this with someone yesterday.
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So Chris, I'm glad you askedthat because now that I don't know
if it's because I'm older or justwhere I'm at right now, but I
see texting while dating way differently thanI did three years ago, five years
ago, ten years ago. LikeI definitely think it's okay to let conversations
die. I think before it'd belike, oh no, we got to
keep this going. I gotta saygood morning, Like no, like,
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it's okay if we don't. LikeI just like the idea that you text
me today, you know, likethat's cool and you decided whatever, I
can send me a picture dog,whatever it may be. But like,
I'm totally fine with like conversations dying, and I'm not like, oh,
our last text was dry, LikeI don't think that. I just think
like, oh we talked that day, you know. Is this like like
while you're dating you said yeah,and I mean, okay, I agree,
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Well what do you what is yourother one? No? I thought
you like because I feel because Ithink when once you get into a relationship,
I like the like, let meknow, like I can't just not
hear from you at all, youknow, like but I'm not trying to
text you all day every day becausewe both have lives and we're both adults.
Like I like the idea of likegood morning, long day to day,
it texts you when i'm you know, when I'm home or whatever,
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And then I think there are differenteras different but in the beginning, don't
I actually like because it's like doyou have a job, Like, if
you're texting me twenty four seven,do you have a job, Do you
have a family, do you havea hobby? It's like, why are
you texting me twenty And also likeI'm trying to get to know you not
through the phone, yes, andpeople could really fake their caps the whole
personalities to your phone or you interpretit differently because there's no tone there.
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Right, you can have a wholepersonality while I'm texting you and then I
see you in person and it's likedry as hell. But we have these
like I think that, And it'sespecially for someone who like me, who's
so delusional and like loves self sabotageand loves overthinking. I especially don't want
to do that because when say,you're texting me like all the time and
you're this amazing person like of courseI'm already if I'm not already making you
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up in my head to be acertain type of person. That's what girls
do. We like in the beginning, and I did hear like when you
think, like a first day great, it's because you're great, you know,
it's because like you're amazing. Ofcourse you had a great first date
because you're fucking spunky and you're amazing, you know. So like in the
beginning, you do naturally like makeup a person in your head, like,
yeah, I'm going to be inlove with this person whatever however you
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want to say it, but youdon't really know what a person is.
And I feel like when you godown that path in the beginning of your
texting twenty four to seven, itlike almost makes that even more to make
up that person in your head,and it becomes even more because you're interpreting
every text message the way you wantthem to say it. Yeah, I'm
kind of thinking though, you know, and I'd rather have a phone call
at that point. Like I'm like, in the beginning, I am very
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guilty of like being a text textext extent like I want to. I'm
like, I think I'm like apuppy dog, Like I think I do
do it a lot, but Ido understand like the dangers of that because
then it's like you don't want youwant to say, why not save that
for like when you're with him?But but do you feel that if you're
not getting those responses the same way? Are you interpreting that as like,
oh, this person isn't interested?Yeah, Like would you be mad if
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someone will if they're there at work? Or like you know, sometimes you're
driving into just reply okay, yeah. I think actually that happened with my
current partner in the beginning, Like, but I just I just learned.
I was like, oh, he'sjust not really a text her, like
you know, that's just not hismotive of communication. Or he's literally fucking
busy. He has ten different jobs. So it was definitely was a learning
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curve for me. But because myphone was attached to twenty four to seven,
Like yeah, and like I usedto never use emojis for years until
I started working. I never usedemojis until I started working at Facebook.
On Facebook, we had we wereforced to, yeah, contract we had
it was there was like a likean informal group message collaborative thing where they
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would send emotions and I felt likeI was being judged by not so I
started using them and now, butI used to never use them and is
like a bit A lot of peoplewould be like, oh, it sounds
so dry a you sound like you'reupset. Yeah, And it's like maybe
I just I think it's more healthynot to text someone twenty four to seven.
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I think like it makes your inperson conversations better. It keeps you
from being a delusional ass bitch.People do not owe you twenty four to
seven conversations and check ins. Andyou know, I'm also glued to my
phone too. It's very different me, Like when I'm scrolling on Instagram,
I don't think I'm like on myphone, Like, how do you text
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someone and talk to someone like youneed your attention? You're talking to people
like same. Sometimes when I wakeup in the morning, I don't like
talking to anyone and silating my coffee. So sometimes my friends will call me
first thing, well probably not firstthing to them, because they're normal human
beings that wake up in a normalmorning time, don't work nights like me,
but like, I'll be working upfirst thing in the afternoon and like,
and I can't wait to hear whatthey have to stand now. They
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probably have a story or something happened, or you know, they're literally just
calling to say hi and have aconversation, but like I generally don't have
the energy for them, so likeI'll like decline it and they'll see me
sharing something, but it's like I'mlike that doesn't count really awake on my
phone, Like I'm like my brainis half dead right now, you know,
Like of course I'm always on myphone too, but it's totally different
when you're like having actual conversations.And also we have to remember like the
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whole cell phone thing, like it'sI mean, it's it's been around for
most of our lives now, butit's still very new in many ways,
and you have like like no oneused to be available on hand like that,
like we are now, so wehave to or we're learning how to
set boundaries with it. I sawthis real on Instagram that said something about
like only text when you're trying tolike set a date or like like if
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you're dating someone, like that prematurestage is like text them to set your
next date when you're going to meetor the next if you're if you're scheduling
the phone cloud or like if you'regoing to meet up somewhere like try to
stick to to let that be whatyou mostly are texting about. Not obviously
not just that because that sounds likecorporate, but like like like i'll put
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here, the calendar there, butit's mainly like like you're taking it back
and forth a little bit throughout theday, but the end goal is to
set that next day of Oh,we're going to see each other on this
day at this place, so I'mgonna pick you up. That's what I'm
pretty much doing. I think it'smostly with your schedule. I'll text her
every once in a while so youknow I'm still alive. But maybe I'm
glad you brought that up because Idid want to bring up this other situation
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and kind of goes with my storytoo, of uh, Carpenter Bay goes
to me for a week. Sothis girl she is going viral on TikTok
because I forgot what she put onher first slide. It was like POV
we don't wait for men or something. I don't know. The second side
was a screenshot the guy said heywith a bunch of wies looking forward to
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later. She responds, Hey,we haven't spoken in a week, and
it led me to believe you wereno longer interested in our date. So,
seeing as we have a different differencein communication styles, I'm no longer
interested in going tonight. Have agood one. And some people in the
comments are saying that she's being od. Yeah, so long, that's a
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long reply. That's too much.That is way too much. She's bitter
because why can't I can just beuninterested? And I have to give you
a reason why. I could justsay you know what this is and that
he has four wives in it.Okay, I will say that. I
will I will say I will saythat, yes, they haven't spoken for
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a week. But I do thinkif we have plans and you don't talk
to me at least a day beforeto one, if our plans to text
me the day of or like anhour before, she's crazy at all.
I'm like, I think it's planningtelling me and then me and not hearing
from you a week is crazy,And like, bitch, if I don't
hear you from a week and wemade plans, I automatically think that the
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plans are canceled and I'm not goingto stop me from doing anything. But
does it have to be a daybefore? No no, literally the middle
of the week is nice, like, hey, we're still on for this
Friday? Yeah, like anythink thatacknowledges we are. I do still want
to plan to date you. Itdoesn't have to I mean, honestly earlier
person too late. Yeah, Ithink same looking forward to later. If
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you say you may pans me Mondayor Saturday, right, Saturday, Sunday,
Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, we have a date
that Saturday. You give me Saturdaymorning. Hey, can't wait to see
you later, bitch, No,Jessica wants to go get coffee, and
that's what we're doing instead. Likebecause I think in the beginning, yeah,
if you're talking to someone and youguys have gone to multiple dates like
whatever, that's fine, Like Imean still I would like it, or
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not even maybe maybe maybe in thebeginning is when you want to like,
hey, we're still good form.Definitely, That's what I'm saying, like
at the beginning, because I definitelyI would assume you either go to me
or like the plans are not on, Like I don't know you. You
could be flaky like with friends,like I do that with my friends to
this day, right, Like yeah, this Saturday, Saturday, do you
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make the plan? And like,Okay, I'm gonna see you next Saturday,
but I'm gonna be busy as fuckedso like you know, you know,
we don't know about the conversations theyhad, Like no, she's saying
they didn't have any conversations. Thoughshe's saying, hey, I haven't heard
from you in a week, likeand and I respect her, like she's
being direct, like you know,our communications are different. You could go
a week without you can make planswith me on Monday and be like,
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yeah, that bitch, we'll keepit till seven days. And I could
go without talking to you. Butthat's just not my style. So we're
just not gonna work out. SoI don't think she's crazy, Like she's
like, this is right. Iactually agree. I like because she's almost
saying she's almost saying, look,I think it's fucked up. I'm not
gonna hold you for it. That'sthe kind of person you are. This
is the kind of person I am. It's not gonna work out. Let
me ask you this, then,let me ask you ladies this. Why
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didn't she reach out the day beforetoo? Is that? Like, does
she not do it because she expectedto do it. No, No,
I want to know. Like,I'm like, because if she wanted to
see him, why not shoot hima text? Two? Or does she
feel like I'm not gonna shot onthe girl if she does that, I
don't do whatever some whatever text youwant. But there is something I don't
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know if it's a pride thing.It makes me feel desperate in a way.
Okay, you know, like Iguess, I guess we want to
give you an opportunity if you wantto fuck up, we want to give
you that opportunity to do so,Like say, yeah, you are an
asshole and you you were actually planningon never hitting me again? Like what
do I look like? Hitting youat? Being like hey are we still
there? And you're like, ohno, bitch, I'm trying to go
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ste like stop interrupting me. Idon't know. It's hard to explain,
but I do feel like if you'rethe one that made the plans, you
kind of have the responsibility to followup. Yeah, I agree, But
if a girl does do it,it's not bad, Like yeah, like
I wouldn't consider it. I wouldn'ttake it as like, oh, you're
really trying to see me like Iwould actually think like, oh, that's
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that's nice, you're following up.But I don't have that mindset of damn,
you must hella want me or youmust no. And I'm not saying
if a girl I wouldn't call herdesperate either. I think it's the if
you are doing that bad, LikeI guess it's just like we don't know
we I guess, yeah, exactly, we shouldn't expect to do it.
I guess you can do it,But like I think he expectation is that
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a man will like I also feellike she's assuming that this person or this
guy is like ignored her for awhole week and like hated her, like
or I don't know, Like Ijust I feel like if a week went
by and like there was no textat all and nobody made like the attempt,
and now we're here on the daythat the plan that we made and
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he's like, hey, looking forwardto later, and she's like, no,
because you didn't do what I expectedyou to do, which was to
text me and to check in withme. I'm actually deciding that I'm going
to create a boundary which go off, go off you that is your boundary
that you want someone to text youlike the day before. Yeah, and
I totally I would want that too. I would want like a check in
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as well. But we just don'tknow, like what happened within this one
week span of time. Maybe he'sa fucking directing a movie and like he's
on I don't know, you know, maybe he's just like he's jet like
jet setting around. I want toI want to make sure I go on
a date with that guy. Youknow, even you never know people's lives.
So instead of her like making theexception and be like, you didn't
want to communicate with me, andthat's not how I communicate period. It's
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like you're not even giving him thebenefit of the doubt to like explain himself.
My nosey ass would be like,well, base, where the fuck
you've been if I was even thatinterested in them? So obviously it doesn't
seem like she wasn't even that interestedin to begin with. I think,
hm, dating is so hard.I agree with you, and I don't
agree with you. I think Ijust admire her in a way because I've
been the person many times trying tobe cool about it or given the benefit
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of the doubt. I don't minddoing that. But there is something about
I don't know, she like sheknows what she wants, and she's like,
hey, this ain't cool to me, so I'm cutting it off.
I don't like I did this,Like, but shouldn't it be a conversation
first? Right if she liked?Obviously if you don't know, but what's
that conversation? I like people whowhat she said, yeah, like,
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we haven't spoken in a week,and it led me to believe that you're
no longer interested. So he neversaid I'm not interested. It led her
to believe right, Like, soshe's interpreting. So the only thing I
agree is like, okay, maybethat was a lot for her to like
end the whole thing. Sure,but like I think at that point she's
like, I don't want someone likeshe's over it right wherever that made her
over it? But I would Ithink my text would have been like,
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I assumed you weren't interested in thisdate anymore? Yeah, there we go.
But then if they say no,I definitely am checked out me because
I made plans to like, becauseI will say okay, maybe I think
just what I will say, justregular decorum, like exactly even if we
weren't dating. Like, Yeah,I think that's rude at fuck to like
make plans someone. I wouldn't dothis to my cousin, to my friend,
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to anyone, like I would checkin if I did not hear from
you for seven whole days and wemade plans to get coffee and you weren't
like hey, Like I literally madeplans with the old coworker and we text
each other, Hey, we're stillgoing to coffee this day. In general,
I think it's hella rude to notdo that. I don't know,
like the guy should check in.I agree, No, I don't,
gosh, there should be someone checkingin for sure, because the kind of
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lifestyle all of us have right now, things are so busy, things come
up all the time, where likeyou could have something could have came up,
or you can't do it no more, you know, so when you
check in, it's like, oh, by the way, I can't anymore,
or I can, but we gottatweak this or whatever it is.
Also, though, I'm just she'ssaying we have different communication styles. Yes,
bitch, you're not gonna meet yourprince charming. Okay, you're not
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gonna find the perfect match and you'regonna have to work hard to like work
in a relationship. Like relationships arehard, Okay, they don't just like
happen at the click of your fingers, like we're gonna be perfect, we're
gonna talk to each Hell, oh, it doesn't work. Like it's an
every day battle. If it's worthit, then you'll make it worth it.
If it's not worth it, obviously, she's like, he must have
been ugly or something. I thinkit's work when you have, you know,
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maybe two people who are really busyand are not used to fitting someone
else's schedule in so they're both compromisingand working on how to be better at
that. But I think when itcomes to like I need to help you
be a better communicator, that's moreme working on you. I want to
work on the relationship, not theperson or where he's at. You know.
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That's like two different ways, differentways look at it. But I
think it goes back to to like, understand what your expectations are and like
you have to have a conversation onthis is what my needs are when it
comes to and vice versa. AndI appreciate her for putting her for sure.
Yeah, definitely, if you likethem enough, I'd like to have
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a conversation about it so that ifit's meant, could work on it.
This is early dating this guy,like maybe she matched on HIDS and he's
like, hey, let's go outthis week, and like this is so
pressed. This is she's not pressed. She's saying hey, like that was
hey, we don't communicate the rightlike have a good life, Like we
haven't spoken in a week, andit led me to believe you were no
longer interested. That is a bigassumption. That sounds like like butch and
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I do believe, like do you? And we can't judge for like if
that's really what she's but we don'tknow what she's been through. If she's
like you know what, I unlesssomeone gets it right, I'm not even
gonna be in you know, makean attempt. And that's great too,
ab issue. I don't think she'slike that press. I think she barely
knows this person. So I thinkit's even easier for her to be like
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red Flag and I don't even knowyou like that. I'm not into you
enough to be like this is somethingwe could work at or a relationship I
see we can maybe fix down theroad. Like, I already know by
the way you acted now you're notthe one for me. And you know
what, I take my answer backabout both sides being able to check in.
I mean, it's not the endof the world whoever sends that text.
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But at the end of the day, this is a man who set
up a date said Hey, let'sget dinner. She responds, yes,
I would love to have dinner withyou. Can't wait, puts it in
our calendar. Technically I sent thelast text. I agreed to it.
Like the least you can do isis text me back and follow up and
be like, hey, are westill on? Because I already know that
you agreed to it. I literallysaid I'm in so you could follow up.
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And it's not even following up.It's just simply confirming the plans that
you made. It's just confirming becausesay something does come up in that week,
because life happens and you can't goon this date anymore. Bitch,
Why am I the one texting youfirst and so you could tell me no
like you should have been text me, Hey, the plans aren't gonna work
out. So I had to textyou so for you to like tell yeah,
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So no, a guy needs tofollowing. What if you knew that
it was a no, Like somethingcame up, like I asked you out,
you say yes, I haven't reachedout yet, and then something comes
up where you're like, oh,damn, I can't go anymore. Are
you gonna wait until I reach outto tell me no? I know?
Yeah, that's like, oh,I'm texting you know what. I'm texting
you before the fucking day of ourdate. Like that's when you'd be like,
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hey, you know what, somethingcame up for canceling. I'm definitely
gonna let you know, but beforethe day, Like I think making any
kind of plans that day is rudeand like you probably didn't want to be.
I'm dead at the I'm at herending with have a good one.
But I gave her prose for likelike you all said, she knows what
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she wants period and maybe she's waitingfor it, like unless you you show
up? Do you guys think shewas being My first word was insecure,
and I was like, let meare rewind that that was the first thing
I said. Now that I'm thinkingabout the beginning, yeah, yeah,
because for real, if it wasme, I would if I was in
her shoes, and I was madthat somebody took a week to solidify the
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plan and see if I'm still downfor the plans. If it was me
in that situation, I would bemad, but at the instant of them
being like are we still down fortonight and be like out of myself and
maybe like no, exactly such alosing Yeah, I'm actually here at the
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barady you drink. You guys justwant to be her already here want to
drinks. We just want to beloved. Okay, you know, I'm
trying to see all a few pointshere, but I think like if I
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was the guy, like i'd belike, Okay, I didn't message her
all week, so I get it, but like you ain't got to hit
me with the whole paragraph. Yeah, yeah, she's my hero because if
it was me, I would havefolded. I would have folded, because
if you were okay with something andthen like they give you the slightest bit
of you guys think it before itdoesn't work out good. I go on
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that day and it ends up beingreally great and you realize like, oh
damn, like like it could bebetter with somebodydeo to write who takes the
time to confirm plans, because Isee a girl who just saw one red
flag and told herself these are problemsI don't want to deal with down the
road, because a lot of timeswe do we're the cool girl, or
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we ignore the red flag, givethe benefit of the doubt, think it's
something we could work on, andthen later down the road we're like,
oh shit, it's not just onered flag. It's a circus in this
bitch, because because you really can'tchange people. You can't change people.
I'm thinking of the Bridesmaids, likepeople change, but they really say the
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same. Literally, you cannot changesomeone. Oh my god. Yeah maybe
yeah, all the whys too,like he's actually gay because it's too many
wise stranger. Yeah, I wantto remember text you two weeks ago.
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She's valid, she's valid, butthat chill, what do you call?
You can consolidate this, like,I guess, like you can be more
concise, you know, Okay,it's not that long of a text,
you guys. It's like, Ithink she was pretty. I think she
was pretty conciseed. I think shewas pretty concise. Actually, I know
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because the first whole two sentences youdon't need. I think it was a
perfect, perfectly constructed text. Ithink she said what she needs to say,
but I do think there are assumptionsthat were made. But I also
think her mind was made up andshe didn't want to be with him anymore.
And that's fine. Next to that. Next, I don't say that.
Next I would have folded. That'swhat I have to say. That's
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okay, that's not a bad youknow, because you can go in and
you can still hold your ground onthe date, you know, Yeah,
you're gonna get hopefully a free mealor I still want to win. If
it went terrible, I would havetext literally that for the record, maybe
at this bar we're getting hammered,thank you, and we'll talk about it
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on the pod next week. Okay, well, I think we'll wrap it
up there with all our texting politics. I'm going to text Carpenter way back
and we're gonna follow. I'm gonnatek all the toxic men that are still
that still remained in my life,right, Yeah, I love that toxic
journey for you. Uneventful this year, but next year I'll be cuffed to
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All right, we love you.We will talk to you next week.
I love you, Aye. Imean, I don't know do people
really change. I think they do, yeah, but I mean they still
stay who they are pretty much.I think we change all the time.
I think we stay the same,but grow, I guess a little bit.
I think if you're growing, thenyou're changing. But I mean we're
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changing from who we are, whichwe always stay as. No, really,
I don't think so, think so. I know it even brick just
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a sack. It just a sack. It just a sack. It just
allock, just all the sack.It the record
Yaser for the record with Angelina,what's up. I'm Angelina, I'm Chris,
I'm angel Leek, I'm a bperiod and fus Chris is behind the
camera. In this week's episode.And for the Culture, we're talking about
some heartbreak that happened this past Sunday, but also Ushers halftime Show and Let's
Talk TV, a brand new showis coming to Netflix. And in Bitch,
(00:50):
I give an update on Carpenter Bayand we talk about canceling dates.
By all means, let's get toit. This is for the culture,
for the culture, for the culture. This is where we pick a headline
and ask if they, she orhe did it for the culture. I'm
gonna just get this part out theway. Though I was doing so good
(01:11):
and I wanted to talk about theNiners leading up because you know, I
don't want to jinx it when SuperBowl is approaching. We did not talk
about it in any of the episodes. I'll just say, I don't know,
it's still it's it's it's a stinger, so sad literally forever. It
was hands down, not hands down, but it definitely was one of the
(01:32):
worst loss losses in forty nine ER'shistory. And I know a lot of
people are like blaming it on theno holding call, and like I think
when you lose like that on abig stage, it's like easy. Everyone
wants to point a finger, youwant to blame the coach, you want
to blame certain players. But like, all in all, it was a
team loss. There was a lotof missed opportunities. We should have had
like seventeen points going into halftime.Right if you have turnovers and don't refuse
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to score on turnovers, like you'rejust already gonna battle and appeal. I
don't know what that's saying is havean upheel battle. So yeah, that
was a heartbreaker. Rock Party thoughhe did a solid job. But yeah,
I mean, I'll be classy andgive it to Patrick Mahomes. He
really is the goat. It's fuckinghard to beat them his fucking seth rogen
(02:16):
laugh sound and ass come with thefrog of the fuckers. No, he's
like literally the go He probably willpass on Bretty's record and it's really hard
to be him. And like Isaid, brock Party was solid, but
like he's just not in the sameuniverse as my Homes And like obviously one
(02:37):
if we won maybe that wouldn't havebeen a conversation. Maybe it would have,
but got to give credit words dueand it was just a team loss
all around. And I don't wantto sound like a Cowboys fan and say
that we'll be back next year,but like, we'll be back next year.
Maybe we probably will. I thinkat one point I was feeling like
I'd rather just be trash, likeI'm so tired of like making it every
year and like not winning. Butlike that's a lie. I want to
(03:00):
be trashed like some of your guys'teams. So yeah, anyways, Well,
isn't the super Bowl coming here nextyear? So like you know,
yeah, I'm pretty sure they are. Yeah, wow that someone told me.
I don't know. My class toldme that time it gets there will
be. I thought, if youwere going to super Bowl, you couldn't
(03:20):
have it at your your home.Well we don't know, Oh, I
guess we don't know. Well thescript the scripts are coming then, will
not be? It is coming toClara yeah right, leave stadium. Yeah,
they already going to host it nextyear. I think it's twenty twenty
six. So like if the Ninersgo, that would be dope because it
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could be their home, but Iguess they won't get the cut. They
won't go, they won't go.So didn't somebody just say that if if
a place is hosting it, theteam can't play, well, they can't
not like like yeah the rule.Maybe they have like like a tentative place,
(04:04):
but then like, oh, ifthe Niners go, then we got
to move somewhere else. I feellike that's not a thing at all.
Like what, you go undefeated andyou can't play the super Bowl because it's
in your hometown. Let me letme google this real quick. Hold on,
hold on, please please hold twentyfour Only two teams have played the
super Bowl in their stadium, soyou can, okay, okay, they
(04:24):
just want to go where the money, where the money flows, and like
Levy Stadium is it's huge, likeand it's been yeah the Rams, that's
so fine. Oh wait, wehad it a couple of years ago.
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah,it was like before it was actually a
cold Play but it was yeh,who is she? I don't know her?
(04:53):
Just kidding love cold Play down,but Beyonce Bruno clearly stole the show.
And who stole the show from me? Yeah? The best part of
Sunday Night was usher mother fucking Raymond. His first song, caught Up was
not I did. It wasn't mytop three. I didn't even think it
was like. Hearing it, Iwas like, I know it was good,
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but I was coming in. Ididn't take that. I like your
guys' idea of what the songs.That what he was going to open up
with, yeah, directed like minewas open with Daddy's Home. Oh yeah,
yeah, I just want to getyour attention. Stop Pyro Pyro.
(05:38):
That's a good opener too. Ithought he was going to open up too
bad girl one. Yeah, that'sa good but also caught Up was good
though I did not see that comingat all see it coming. Also,
I'm not gonna I don't not likecaught Up. But I think when it
was out, like I remember itbeing like on one to six a Park,
and I I wasn't in love withit. Really, it's like probably
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my favorite song on the Confessions album. I'm not gonna lie, Okay,
I think I don't know which oneit was. Let It Burn on that
album that been my favorite, letIt Burn. But he didn't even do
Daddy's Home at All's Home. Andbut I'm glad he went through like he
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did most of his R and Bship Like it was very R and B.
It was very hip hop, youknow. I will say I wish
it was like five seconds of asong versus like two three yeah songs,
so it's like how do you getthrough album? But it did feel a
little a little quick, like rightwhen I'm like ready to sing, it's
like to the next one and slow. It was just seven o'clock on the
(06:46):
dot and then it switched. Iwas I wasn't ready for that. I
needed a little bit more. Iwanted to hear Lovers and Friends. I
was so bummed about Lovers and Friends, especially because they were all up there,
up there. They could have totallytook that opportunity, but I guess
can't do them all. Superstar though, even though he just did the intro,
I thought that, I thought ofyou is a win for you guys.
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I did like the roller blade wasdope. The how they were all
in sync. He killed one ofthe dancers. I don't know if you
guys caught in the very beginning,he like bent backwards and he used his
like head to like roller blade throughthe stage. Yes, the skates,
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the whole production was insane, likethe Vegas theme. They nailed it.
Yeah, it was really good.A lot going on. Al piano was
fire. Yeah, like the pianomaybe a good transition to go into the
bath. No Alicia the first note, Like I would have been okay if
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they cut that whole part out.I'm not gonna lie. Yeah, it
was a little surprised that she wasgoing to be there, But that's cool.
You know she the very first whichis crazy because they went and edited
it off YouTube. Did they editedit out because she cracked like her voice
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at that ship. Yeah, andlike auto like side note just about the
world. Like, that's so crazy. I can see years from now people
like arguing, people arguing whether ornot it was like a good or bad
performance, Like there's any people whoremember her cracking and be like, okay,
let's pull it up on YouTube.No. Wow, I never even
thought about it like that. That'show you change the narrative. That's how
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you change the narrative. The power. That's crazy. Her dress was fire
though, Yeah, she shouldn't saidto that. The chemistry. I love
that. Don't leave your girl aroundme? True playing for that? He
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did. You don't have to callalso, I mean, he did all
the hits. It was amazing,and I feel like it did exactly what
halftime show was supposed to do,Like you're supposed to be, like,
wow, this person has catalog andlike, unfortunately Usher has been lately severely
underrated, Like he is one ofthe biggest starts. He gave us one
of the best R and B albums. But like the fact that it was
even like a conversation if he shoulddo halftime is insane, and I think
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he proved that point. Like bitch, I got hits on hits, I'm
a performer. Yeahs her noise,she did that. I love that she
killed it. She did she Imean she her starting too is just like
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on YouTube, right, she wasjust like saying something and Ellen saw her
and she was on all these likegood morning shows. I love. I
love that storyline. Like now you'reat the fucking super Bowl and you're like,
not even thirty, let's go.And she's sang when she was little
too, like a throwback of likebeing at the super Bowl singing oh wow,
that's right. Definitely full circle forher. Oh my god, could
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you imagine could you imagine? Noshe was she was fired, and I
loved, like, yeah, whenLudacris came out, I just got like
so like the hip hop. Megot really happy. And the part that
I thought was really dope when Ludahad came out and he was doing his
yeah verse, they played the FreakingLeague beat and now she was fired,
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and I remember like coming back towork and me and my coworkers were specifically
talking about that part. It justsounded really dope. So now stuff has
been coming out. How like LittleJohn was like the main one to like
produce the whole show. But healso I didn't know this. He mentioned
that ushers Yeah was originally recorded tothe Freak League beat. Oh wow.
Interesting. I didn't know that.And then I guess Peop Papa wouldn't put
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it out, didn't want to giveit to him, so well, John
didn't want to take it, andhe just like flipped it. So essentially
the beat is essentially the Freak Leaguebeat. He just like switched some parts
out and he's like, I'm gladwe did it because like, yeah,
it wouldn't have been yeah right,yeah, but is one of the best
beats ever, Like to this day, people we have like there's like three
samples already of it, like peoplecontinue to wrap over it's one of the
(11:13):
best beats ever. But oh no, my mind was blown and like that
made that moment even cooler. LikeI thought that was dope that he was
just wrapping over it, like itjust seemed to hip hop as fuck.
And then to know that, like, oh this actually could have been Yeah,
like no, wonder why he's likeriding the beat so so too.
Yeah, so that ship was fire. Where are we ranking this as far
as like top halftime performances? Happy, I feel like I want to do
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top five, really, top tenfor sure. I'm just trying to think
of other ones. I don't know. Lady got Katie Ferry, Beyonce,
well, like number one for me, Michael Michael, yeah, Michael's Yeah.
It's just like he's like sitting therefor like two minutes straight and everyone's
(12:03):
just going shit crazy and he likedoesn't even sing it out like for like
two whole minutes. Everyone's just likescreaming, losing their fucking Yeah. Yeah,
it's known to be like one ofthe best ones for sure. Okay,
Yeah, it's like MJ, sonumber one, you forget to count
it. It's like Michael Jackson,Prince and then we're gonna rank the rest,
and at number three is Beyonce andBruno. For me, I gotta
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look at the rest of them too. You're right, it's a toughye,
But is sure over Rihanna's last year, for sure, I say easy.
Yeah, Yeah, It's a hardto judge Rihanna because she end up being
pregnant. You know that scratch alot of stuff, But for sure,
I think now it's safe to say, like, yeah, it wasn't it
wasn't the greatest, It wasn't terrible. It was that was Paris Globals,
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which is the choreographer who did it. It was her super Bowl. It
wasn't h Yeah, it was Rihanna, of course, but like she that
was that was all her planning.I mean, love her songs, but
yeah, and I think and hersdid do what exactly the super Bowl needs
to do. Like it was atthe end of the day, You're like,
damn, we only got catalog.But it was nothing like crazy pregnanty.
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Yeah, the coolest part was herlike doing her makeup, like Okay,
your rich bitch, you got makeup, you got anywhere and Nama shout
out to usher. He's a man, okay, one of the goats,
minus the camera man being a littlewonky in the beginning. And Alice Keys,
I don't think she get in hervoice back. But other than that,
the man got hits on hits.It was amazing him harmonizing all his
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records, taking his shirt off,doing his little dance the guest stars.
I thought it was amazing and Ineed to find a way to create an
OnlyFans or sell some feet picks soI get tickets to his upcoming tour.
He is coming to Oakland. Let'stalk TV everyone. After the show is
over, After this podcast is over, take your little asses to Netflix,
(13:54):
take your little fingers and type inthe Vince Staples Show. It is out
now. It dropped at midnight onThursday, February fifteenth, Right is that
Thursday yesterday? Yes? So VinceStaple. Yeah, he got his own
Netflix show. If you don't knowwho Vince Stables is, He's one of
my favorite rappers out aside from thoseboys at Griselda. I really don't think
(14:16):
anyone could out rap Vin Staples likeI love Kendrick. I think Vin Staples
could out rap Kendrake like I knowthat's my hot take. When it comes
bar for Barr, not hits wise, but obviously Kendrick's career. Rap career
is better, discography is better.But when it comes bar for Bar,
I think Vince Staples could wrap alot of these new guys on the scene.
(14:37):
However, aside from my love forhim as a rapper, he's always
going viral for his interviews. Everyoneswears up and down that he's the funniest
guy ever. We need to puthim on TV, and now here he
is on TV. Okay, you'reat your prayers haven't answered. I'm not
exactly sure what it's about. Isaw the trailer. It does seem pretty
(14:58):
scrissid earlier like it seemed like alittle dick. I don't know if it's
necessarily Vince Staples story, like onVince Stables a rapper, this is how
I become a rapper. But maybeI don't know. I gotta watch it.
It does seem like he is playinga regular version of himself, and
like a lot of it's based onmaybe actual events he's gone through, growing
(15:20):
up in LA and being in agang, et cetera. Is it is
it a comedy? Yeah, it'sdefinitely a comedy. Yeah, it's a
comedy show. It's no, no, no, no, it's definitely not
a docu series. It's like he'sjust not playing himself. But I'm sure
he's playing from like stuff he knowsfrom his life. I see, you
know what I mean? Like nextweek we'll be able to come with a
real review and what it's about andhow funny it was and if it's that
(15:43):
good or not. But please gowatch the Vince Staples show. This is
what I'm looking up right now,like what it's supposed to be about.
This is what the La Times issaying online. There we go. Yeah,
I see the description says Vince Staplesplays a regular guy version of himself.
Infix and Netflix is a stable show, gap tooth Wrapper and Active Stables
has a series. Why do theydescribe it that way? Gas, I
(16:10):
don't have a damn La Times.What is it? I'm offended. I
looked at I forgot him. Okay, describes it limited comedic series London.
Look, Okay, that's crazy.Vin Stables navigates life as a kind of
(16:36):
famous, kind of rich, kindof criminal, but not really rapper.
But I didn't even realize. Now, Okay, We just got a couple
of gap to write that the LaTimes that was not his, that was
(17:03):
on a podcast. Not y'all loveit at eighties gap. Maybe your gap
is beautiful. You go see iton our Instagram. Had to underscore emtr
pod go support the Vincample show itNeflix. I said, bitch, if
you wanted to go to Taylor's,just tell her brother you want to go
to Taylor You said that. Ohhell yeah, man, I laid it
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out right, I said, Isaid, I said, I said,
bitch, all right, bitch.So do you guys remember last week?
I told you it's been a weekand I have not heard from We'll go
ahead, carp this, Carpenter,it's been a week, you said,
you guys remember last week? Iwas like, we went on too amazing
(17:47):
dates. And then I was like, okay, we had talked on that
like that Saturday, and then werecorded the podcast on Thursday, and I
was like, yeah, I havenot heard from at all, Like he
hasn't text me nothing. Yeah,produce Chris even be like, no,
it's just the middle of the week. We're like, no, it's Thursday,
Sunday again, like it's gonna bea full seven days, so he
did text me. Oh okay,okay, okay, so text me on
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Saturday, I had a Warrior's gameshouts and Angelique she came out to support.
Okay, I have to pull thescreenshot out. So he texted you
six days after let me let metell you, yes, it was six
days. Let me pull the textout first. Okay, you guys,
this is for real, so terrible. Okay, I'm pulling out a thing,
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you guys. Also, I don'tknow if anyone else does this,
but sometimes with like if I'm likeexpecting a text message or I have like
anxiety about it, I'll like deletethe text thread and that means it didn't
happen. No, that's just sowhen I deleted it, like if he
never would to hit me up,like that never happened because I deleted the
text thread. If that orcs foryou, girl, that works for you.
If I send a risky text,okay, I've been doing pretty good
(18:56):
not doing it anymore, even thoughI just did it this past week.
No. I used to be though, yeah, please say, do you
mean you are in an argument?Right? And I send you a risky
text and I'm like anticipating your textmessage, but I'm tired of waiting for
it. I'll delete the text threadand that means it didn't happen, like
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like you know if people throw theirphone because I don't want to look at
it anymore doing that, like,yeah, you don't want to print it,
email nothing, No, that's myoption, no receipts, do not
do it. No, but okay, I used to be really bad.
Side story. One time I wastalking to this guy. We did not
have a good altercation, and Isent a very risky text. We didn't
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have altercation, but like we thetime we met up, it was just
embarrassing. It was not good.I sent a very risky text. This
this is my crazy days. I'mnot like this anymore. I sent a
risky text. I get to work. I don't want to see anymore.
Like if you respond like, I'mlike, I have anxiety. So I
delete the text thread. It neverhappened. This is when I worked at
the front desk and I heard andI'm waiting, Oh you guys right when
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I deleted the message, my phonevibrated, so he literally texted me as
I was deleting the text thread,so you didn't see the message. No,
So I go back to the frontdesk, which I'm like trying to
find ways you could like recover,which I called team to God, I
called and I was like, isthere any way I could retrieve these?
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No? I was down bad.I swear I'm not like that anymore five
years ago, ma'am your plan orsometimes you can look at like call logs,
they could know you're for evidence andstuff like I think it's because I
message, because technically you could actuallyif it's like green text messages, so
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android winters. You guys are actuallywinning. If you were a crazy bitch
in my situation and you had anAndroid, you would have been able to
retrieve that message maybe, but becauseit was I message, they weren't able
to do it. So I hadto send a second risky text and make
up a lie of why I didn'tjust get that, because I had to
say in the ocean and I don'tknow what I told him, but it
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was something so embarrassing along the linesof, hey, I didn't get your
last message, but oh God,just replaying this in my head, like
telling the story I was insane.I was actually insane, but I think
I made up a lie. Waslike man for whatever reason I didn't get
her text that you just sent me. But whatever, I just want to
(21:34):
apologize about whatever whatever, like Iwent back to the topic at hand,
So embarrassing would the message? Nobut his He did respond to me and
it was very respectable, like okaymessage. But then we eventually followed each
other off socials. But that weregood me did him follow each other?
We're great Off the record. Iused to be insane. I can't believe
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I literally called him T Mobile.That's crazy who used to work to my
desk with me. She was probablyjust looking at me like this bitch is
so crazy, has seen me atmy worst because we miss you no so
much. Emma really saw me downbad. She saw me calling up T
Mobile, deleting text threads, somany hungover days coming into work. She
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saw me the day after. Ifyou're a day one for the record fan
this story the day I fortunately gotarrested. You no longer delete the dread.
Yeah, well I did do itthis past Saturday, because oh no,
I was just writing AV. Iwas like, if he is ghost
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to me, like, I don'twant to like be dumb and text him.
You get what I say? SoI already didn't save his number,
and I know, like if Iever was in a mode to self sabotage
and like text this man embarrassingly,I was like, that's not gonna happen.
So that's why I deleted the text. I was like, you know
what, if he goes to me, let me just go ahead and delete
his number and like let him dothat, because yeah, I'm like,
we're coming up on almost day seven. And then Angelina would call Apple to
(23:06):
see if she could recover the numbers. Yeah, I know, see that.
That's not like anymore. I don'tdo anywhere. I don't call customer
service anywhere to get number. Butthat's what was going in my head.
Okay, okay, So Saturday,I'm working Seed OFS and I get a
little text message. Oh I deletedthat part, damn it. So what
do you have the screenshot? Butit was something along with the lions.
It was something along the lines.Because I ran out to Angelique, he
(23:30):
said something like oh what was it? Because he worded it that he was
like hey, smiley face. Andthen he sent a second message and he
was like did it. Almost thoughtI wasn't going to find your number.
Four A second was like a sweatyemoji. He said, yes, he
did say that. I thought Iwas He said, I thought I wasn't
going to find your number again,so he lost it or he's also right
(23:53):
confused, and I was like,okay, let's just scroll down. But
then I'm like, yeah, somany bitches that you're like, yeah,
dive in. So I think Iresponded like, oh, like you deleted
my number already or something like SEMIKEIwith someone like what the fuck? Yeah,
(24:15):
yeah, he said, sends mea picture of his phone, and
he said, my old phone stoppedworking, so I had I had to
buy a new one. So hehad a little type of there, and
all my recent numbers didn't get savedon my iCloud. I paid someone to
try and fix the phone, andthey were able to fix it today.
Ha ha. Do you believe him? I didn't believe him. Oh you
didn't believe him? No, because, first of all, if it was
me, I'm not going twenty fourhours without a working phone, Like,
(24:38):
how are you going to go awhole week without a phone? Well,
no, he didn't have a phone. Yeah, you couldn't get the numbers,
that's what. Yeah, So whatI think I think he got a
new phone right away because he doesneed it for work. And I think
he said, but eventually I endup paying someone to fix his old phone
so I could get my old numbersor he was like, I'm so in
love with that bitch, I'm actuallygoing to pay someone so I could just
get her number. No, I'mjust I don't know if it was just
(25:00):
for me, but I think hewas saying that he already got a new
phone for work. So where youguys at now, what's going on right
today in the bay? Bids todayin the bay? I do believe him.
I mean, you really can't putanything past anyone, like people are
crazy. But I do feel likeit's too early to come up with that
like specific ass lie, Like whymake up a lie like that? Like
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that's like o d like like abitch, I'm just hitting you on days
sex Like I could just been like, hey, what's up right? You
know? So he's like not onlyone acknowledging that, Hey, it's been
six days since I've text you,but also this is the reason why I've
text you, And oh my god, I thought I was never gonna find
your number again. I like,you know, I like the hey,
I know it's been a while,but it's because of it, like you
know, like yeah right, Imean whatever, like whether it was a
(25:45):
lie or not. I kind ofin the moment was just happy that this
mother Parker is still alive. Andhe texted me, yeah, I'll firm
that because I was there. Actually, no one's jumping up and down,
kicking a screaming yeah, anyone makesAnd he texts me because she was so
(26:15):
cute, were taking away thriving.So he did finally text me, what
was the last text? Where areyou guys at right now? I'm not
gonna take the details. No,we're just texting casual like our last text.
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I don't know he sent pictures ofhis dog or something. I do
want to bring that up, though, because I originally shared the Carpenter based
story, because there's this actual postthat's going viral on TikTok right now and
it has to do with someone nottexting a person within a week. So
we're gonna get into that, butreal quick, I do want to talk
about letting conversations die. I literallywas just talking about this with someone yesterday.
(27:02):
So Chris, I'm glad you askedthat because now that I don't know
if it's because I'm older or justwhere I'm at right now, but I
see texting while dating way differently thanI did three years ago, five years
ago, ten years ago. LikeI definitely think it's okay to let conversations
die. I think before it'd belike, oh no, we got to
keep this going. I gotta saygood morning, Like no, like,
(27:23):
it's okay if we don't. LikeI just like the idea that you text
me today, you know, likethat's cool and you decided whatever, I
can send me a picture dog,whatever it may be. But like,
I'm totally fine with like conversations dying, and I'm not like, oh,
our last text was dry, LikeI don't think that. I just think
like, oh we talked that day, you know. Is this like like
while you're dating you said yeah,and I mean, okay, I agree,
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Well what do you what is yourother one? No? I thought
you like because I feel because Ithink when once you get into a relationship,
I like the like, let meknow, like I can't just not
hear from you at all, youknow, like but I'm not trying to
text you all day every day becausewe both have lives and we're both adults.
Like I like the idea of likegood morning, long day to day,
it texts you when i'm you know, when I'm home or whatever,
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And then I think there are differenteras different but in the beginning, don't
I actually like because it's like doyou have a job, Like, if
you're texting me twenty four seven,do you have a job, Do you
have a family, do you havea hobby? It's like, why are
you texting me twenty And also likeI'm trying to get to know you not
through the phone, yes, andpeople could really fake their caps the whole
personalities to your phone or you interpretit differently because there's no tone there.
(28:30):
Right, you can have a wholepersonality while I'm texting you and then I
see you in person and it's likedry as hell. But we have these
like I think that, And it'sespecially for someone who like me, who's
so delusional and like loves self sabotageand loves overthinking. I especially don't want
to do that because when say,you're texting me like all the time and
you're this amazing person like of courseI'm already if I'm not already making you
(28:51):
up in my head to be acertain type of person. That's what girls
do. We like in the beginning, and I did hear like when you
think, like a first day great, it's because you're great, you know,
it's because like you're amazing. Ofcourse you had a great first date
because you're fucking spunky and you're amazing, you know. So like in the
beginning, you do naturally like makeup a person in your head, like,
yeah, I'm going to be inlove with this person whatever however you
(29:12):
want to say it, but youdon't really know what a person is.
And I feel like when you godown that path in the beginning of your
texting twenty four to seven, itlike almost makes that even more to make
up that person in your head,and it becomes even more because you're interpreting
every text message the way you wantthem to say it. Yeah, I'm
kind of thinking though, you know, and I'd rather have a phone call
at that point. Like I'm like, in the beginning, I am very
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guilty of like being a text textext extent like I want to. I'm
like, I think I'm like apuppy dog, Like I think I do
do it a lot, but Ido understand like the dangers of that because
then it's like you don't want youwant to say, why not save that
for like when you're with him?But but do you feel that if you're
not getting those responses the same way? Are you interpreting that as like,
oh, this person isn't interested?Yeah, Like would you be mad if
(29:56):
someone will if they're there at work? Or like you know, sometimes you're
driving into just reply okay, yeah. I think actually that happened with my
current partner in the beginning, Like, but I just I just learned.
I was like, oh, he'sjust not really a text her, like
you know, that's just not hismotive of communication. Or he's literally fucking
busy. He has ten different jobs. So it was definitely was a learning
(30:18):
curve for me. But because myphone was attached to twenty four to seven,
Like yeah, and like I usedto never use emojis for years until
I started working. I never usedemojis until I started working at Facebook.
On Facebook, we had we wereforced to, yeah, contract we had
it was there was like a likean informal group message collaborative thing where they
(30:44):
would send emotions and I felt likeI was being judged by not so I
started using them and now, butI used to never use them and is
like a bit A lot of peoplewould be like, oh, it sounds
so dry a you sound like you'reupset. Yeah, And it's like maybe
I just I think it's more healthynot to text someone twenty four to seven.
(31:04):
I think like it makes your inperson conversations better. It keeps you
from being a delusional ass bitch.People do not owe you twenty four to
seven conversations and check ins. Andyou know, I'm also glued to my
phone too. It's very different me, Like when I'm scrolling on Instagram,
I don't think I'm like on myphone, Like, how do you text
(31:26):
someone and talk to someone like youneed your attention? You're talking to people
like same. Sometimes when I wakeup in the morning, I don't like
talking to anyone and silating my coffee. So sometimes my friends will call me
first thing, well probably not firstthing to them, because they're normal human
beings that wake up in a normalmorning time, don't work nights like me,
but like, I'll be working upfirst thing in the afternoon and like,
and I can't wait to hear whatthey have to stand now. They
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probably have a story or something happened, or you know, they're literally just
calling to say hi and have aconversation, but like I generally don't have
the energy for them, so likeI'll like decline it and they'll see me
sharing something, but it's like I'mlike that doesn't count really awake on my
phone, Like I'm like my brainis half dead right now, you know,
Like of course I'm always on myphone too, but it's totally different
when you're like having actual conversations.And also we have to remember like the
(32:10):
whole cell phone thing, like it'sI mean, it's it's been around for
most of our lives now, butit's still very new in many ways,
and you have like like no oneused to be available on hand like that,
like we are now, so wehave to or we're learning how to
set boundaries with it. I sawthis real on Instagram that said something about
like only text when you're trying tolike set a date or like like if
(32:37):
you're dating someone, like that prematurestage is like text them to set your
next date when you're going to meetor the next if you're if you're scheduling
the phone cloud or like if you'regoing to meet up somewhere like try to
stick to to let that be whatyou mostly are texting about. Not obviously
not just that because that sounds likecorporate, but like like like i'll put
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here, the calendar there, butit's mainly like like you're taking it back
and forth a little bit throughout theday, but the end goal is to
set that next day of Oh,we're going to see each other on this
day at this place, so I'mgonna pick you up. That's what I'm
pretty much doing. I think it'smostly with your schedule. I'll text her
every once in a while so youknow I'm still alive. But maybe I'm
glad you brought that up because Idid want to bring up this other situation
(33:23):
and kind of goes with my storytoo, of uh, Carpenter Bay goes
to me for a week. Sothis girl she is going viral on TikTok
because I forgot what she put onher first slide. It was like POV
we don't wait for men or something. I don't know. The second side
was a screenshot the guy said heywith a bunch of wies looking forward to
(33:43):
later. She responds, Hey,we haven't spoken in a week, and
it led me to believe you wereno longer interested in our date. So,
seeing as we have a different differencein communication styles, I'm no longer
interested in going tonight. Have agood one. And some people in the
comments are saying that she's being od. Yeah, so long, that's a
(34:06):
long reply. That's too much.That is way too much. She's bitter
because why can't I can just beuninterested? And I have to give you
a reason why. I could justsay you know what this is and that
he has four wives in it.Okay, I will say that. I
will I will say I will saythat, yes, they haven't spoken for
(34:32):
a week. But I do thinkif we have plans and you don't talk
to me at least a day beforeto one, if our plans to text
me the day of or like anhour before, she's crazy at all.
I'm like, I think it's planningtelling me and then me and not hearing
from you a week is crazy,And like, bitch, if I don't
hear you from a week and wemade plans, I automatically think that the
(34:53):
plans are canceled and I'm not goingto stop me from doing anything. But
does it have to be a daybefore? No no, literally the middle
of the week is nice, like, hey, we're still on for this
Friday? Yeah, like anythink thatacknowledges we are. I do still want
to plan to date you. Itdoesn't have to I mean, honestly earlier
person too late. Yeah, Ithink same looking forward to later. If
(35:14):
you say you may pans me Mondayor Saturday, right, Saturday, Sunday,
Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, we have a date
that Saturday. You give me Saturdaymorning. Hey, can't wait to see
you later, bitch, No,Jessica wants to go get coffee, and
that's what we're doing instead. Likebecause I think in the beginning, yeah,
if you're talking to someone and youguys have gone to multiple dates like
whatever, that's fine, Like Imean still I would like it, or
(35:37):
not even maybe maybe maybe in thebeginning is when you want to like,
hey, we're still good form.Definitely, That's what I'm saying, like
at the beginning, because I definitelyI would assume you either go to me
or like the plans are not on, Like I don't know you. You
could be flaky like with friends,like I do that with my friends to
this day, right, Like yeah, this Saturday, Saturday, do you
(36:00):
make the plan? And like,Okay, I'm gonna see you next Saturday,
but I'm gonna be busy as fuckedso like you know, you know,
we don't know about the conversations theyhad, Like no, she's saying
they didn't have any conversations. Thoughshe's saying, hey, I haven't heard
from you in a week, likeand and I respect her, like she's
being direct, like you know,our communications are different. You could go
a week without you can make planswith me on Monday and be like,
(36:21):
yeah, that bitch, we'll keepit till seven days. And I could
go without talking to you. Butthat's just not my style. So we're
just not gonna work out. SoI don't think she's crazy, Like she's
like, this is right. Iactually agree. I like because she's almost
saying she's almost saying, look,I think it's fucked up. I'm not
gonna hold you for it. That'sthe kind of person you are. This
is the kind of person I am. It's not gonna work out. Let
me ask you this, then,let me ask you ladies this. Why
(36:42):
didn't she reach out the day beforetoo? Is that? Like, does
she not do it because she expectedto do it. No, No,
I want to know. Like,I'm like, because if she wanted to
see him, why not shoot hima text? Two? Or does she
feel like I'm not gonna shot onthe girl if she does that, I
don't do whatever some whatever text youwant. But there is something I don't
(37:05):
know if it's a pride thing.It makes me feel desperate in a way.
Okay, you know, like Iguess, I guess we want to
give you an opportunity if you wantto fuck up, we want to give
you that opportunity to do so,Like say, yeah, you are an
asshole and you you were actually planningon never hitting me again? Like what
do I look like? Hitting youat? Being like hey are we still
there? And you're like, ohno, bitch, I'm trying to go
(37:25):
ste like stop interrupting me. Idon't know. It's hard to explain,
but I do feel like if you'rethe one that made the plans, you
kind of have the responsibility to followup. Yeah, I agree, But
if a girl does do it,it's not bad, Like yeah, like
I wouldn't consider it. I wouldn'ttake it as like, oh, you're
really trying to see me like Iwould actually think like, oh, that's
(37:47):
that's nice, you're following up.But I don't have that mindset of damn,
you must hella want me or youmust no. And I'm not saying
if a girl I wouldn't call herdesperate either. I think it's the if
you are doing that bad, LikeI guess it's just like we don't know
we I guess, yeah, exactly, we shouldn't expect to do it.
I guess you can do it,But like I think he expectation is that
(38:09):
a man will like I also feellike she's assuming that this person or this
guy is like ignored her for awhole week and like hated her, like
or I don't know, Like Ijust I feel like if a week went
by and like there was no textat all and nobody made like the attempt,
and now we're here on the daythat the plan that we made and
(38:30):
he's like, hey, looking forwardto later, and she's like, no,
because you didn't do what I expectedyou to do, which was to
text me and to check in withme. I'm actually deciding that I'm going
to create a boundary which go off, go off you that is your boundary
that you want someone to text youlike the day before. Yeah, and
I totally I would want that too. I would want like a check in
(38:50):
as well. But we just don'tknow, like what happened within this one
week span of time. Maybe he'sa fucking directing a movie and like he's
on I don't know, you know, maybe he's just like he's jet like
jet setting around. I want toI want to make sure I go on
a date with that guy. Youknow, even you never know people's lives.
So instead of her like making theexception and be like, you didn't
want to communicate with me, andthat's not how I communicate period. It's
(39:14):
like you're not even giving him thebenefit of the doubt to like explain himself.
My nosey ass would be like,well, base, where the fuck
you've been if I was even thatinterested in them? So obviously it doesn't
seem like she wasn't even that interestedin to begin with. I think,
hm, dating is so hard.I agree with you, and I don't
agree with you. I think Ijust admire her in a way because I've
been the person many times trying tobe cool about it or given the benefit
(39:37):
of the doubt. I don't minddoing that. But there is something about
I don't know, she like sheknows what she wants, and she's like,
hey, this ain't cool to me, so I'm cutting it off.
I don't like I did this,Like, but shouldn't it be a conversation
first? Right if she liked?Obviously if you don't know, but what's
that conversation? I like people whowhat she said, yeah, like,
(40:00):
we haven't spoken in a week,and it led me to believe that you're
no longer interested. So he neversaid I'm not interested. It led her
to believe right, Like, soshe's interpreting. So the only thing I
agree is like, okay, maybethat was a lot for her to like
end the whole thing. Sure,but like I think at that point she's
like, I don't want someone likeshe's over it right wherever that made her
over it? But I would Ithink my text would have been like,
(40:22):
I assumed you weren't interested in thisdate anymore? Yeah, there we go.
But then if they say no,I definitely am checked out me because
I made plans to like, becauseI will say okay, maybe I think
just what I will say, justregular decorum, like exactly even if we
weren't dating. Like, Yeah,I think that's rude at fuck to like
make plans someone. I wouldn't dothis to my cousin, to my friend,
(40:43):
to anyone, like I would checkin if I did not hear from
you for seven whole days and wemade plans to get coffee and you weren't
like hey, Like I literally madeplans with the old coworker and we text
each other, Hey, we're stillgoing to coffee this day. In general,
I think it's hella rude to notdo that. I don't know,
like the guy should check in.I agree, No, I don't,
gosh, there should be someone checkingin for sure, because the kind of
(41:07):
lifestyle all of us have right now, things are so busy, things come
up all the time, where likeyou could have something could have came up,
or you can't do it no more, you know, so when you
check in, it's like, oh, by the way, I can't anymore,
or I can, but we gottatweak this or whatever it is.
Also, though, I'm just she'ssaying we have different communication styles. Yes,
bitch, you're not gonna meet yourprince charming. Okay, you're not
(41:29):
gonna find the perfect match and you'regonna have to work hard to like work
in a relationship. Like relationships arehard, Okay, they don't just like
happen at the click of your fingers, like we're gonna be perfect, we're
gonna talk to each Hell, oh, it doesn't work. Like it's an
every day battle. If it's worthit, then you'll make it worth it.
If it's not worth it, obviously, she's like, he must have
been ugly or something. I thinkit's work when you have, you know,
(41:52):
maybe two people who are really busyand are not used to fitting someone
else's schedule in so they're both compromisingand working on how to be better at
that. But I think when itcomes to like I need to help you
be a better communicator, that's moreme working on you. I want to
work on the relationship, not theperson or where he's at. You know.
(42:14):
That's like two different ways, differentways look at it. But I
think it goes back to to like, understand what your expectations are and like
you have to have a conversation onthis is what my needs are when it
comes to and vice versa. AndI appreciate her for putting her for sure.
Yeah, definitely, if you likethem enough, I'd like to have
(42:36):
a conversation about it so that ifit's meant, could work on it.
This is early dating this guy,like maybe she matched on HIDS and he's
like, hey, let's go outthis week, and like this is so
pressed. This is she's not pressed. She's saying hey, like that was
hey, we don't communicate the rightlike have a good life, Like we
haven't spoken in a week, andit led me to believe you were no
longer interested. That is a bigassumption. That sounds like like butch and
(43:06):
I do believe, like do you? And we can't judge for like if
that's really what she's but we don'tknow what she's been through. If she's
like you know what, I unlesssomeone gets it right, I'm not even
gonna be in you know, makean attempt. And that's great too,
ab issue. I don't think she'slike that press. I think she barely
knows this person. So I thinkit's even easier for her to be like
(43:30):
red Flag and I don't even knowyou like that. I'm not into you
enough to be like this is somethingwe could work at or a relationship I
see we can maybe fix down theroad. Like, I already know by
the way you acted now you're notthe one for me. And you know
what, I take my answer backabout both sides being able to check in.
I mean, it's not the endof the world whoever sends that text.
(43:50):
But at the end of the day, this is a man who set
up a date said Hey, let'sget dinner. She responds, yes,
I would love to have dinner withyou. Can't wait, puts it in
our calendar. Technically I sent thelast text. I agreed to it.
Like the least you can do isis text me back and follow up and
be like, hey, are westill on? Because I already know that
you agreed to it. I literallysaid I'm in so you could follow up.
(44:12):
And it's not even following up.It's just simply confirming the plans that
you made. It's just confirming becausesay something does come up in that week,
because life happens and you can't goon this date anymore. Bitch,
Why am I the one texting youfirst and so you could tell me no
like you should have been text me, Hey, the plans aren't gonna work
out. So I had to textyou so for you to like tell yeah,
(44:35):
So no, a guy needs tofollowing. What if you knew that
it was a no, Like somethingcame up, like I asked you out,
you say yes, I haven't reachedout yet, and then something comes
up where you're like, oh,damn, I can't go anymore. Are
you gonna wait until I reach outto tell me no? I know?
Yeah, that's like, oh,I'm texting you know what. I'm texting
you before the fucking day of ourdate. Like that's when you'd be like,
(44:59):
hey, you know what, somethingcame up for canceling. I'm definitely
gonna let you know, but beforethe day, Like I think making any
kind of plans that day is rudeand like you probably didn't want to be.
I'm dead at the I'm at herending with have a good one.
But I gave her prose for likelike you all said, she knows what
(45:19):
she wants period and maybe she's waitingfor it, like unless you you show
up? Do you guys think shewas being My first word was insecure,
and I was like, let meare rewind that that was the first thing
I said. Now that I'm thinkingabout the beginning, yeah, yeah,
because for real, if it wasme, I would if I was in
her shoes, and I was madthat somebody took a week to solidify the
(45:40):
plan and see if I'm still downfor the plans. If it was me
in that situation, I would bemad, but at the instant of them
being like are we still down fortonight and be like out of myself and
maybe like no, exactly such alosing Yeah, I'm actually here at the
(46:05):
barady you drink. You guys justwant to be her already here want to
drinks. We just want to beloved. Okay, you know, I'm
trying to see all a few pointshere, but I think like if I
(46:27):
was the guy, like i'd belike, Okay, I didn't message her
all week, so I get it, but like you ain't got to hit
me with the whole paragraph. Yeah, yeah, she's my hero because if
it was me, I would havefolded. I would have folded, because
if you were okay with something andthen like they give you the slightest bit
of you guys think it before itdoesn't work out good. I go on
(46:51):
that day and it ends up beingreally great and you realize like, oh
damn, like like it could bebetter with somebodydeo to write who takes the
time to confirm plans, because Isee a girl who just saw one red
flag and told herself these are problemsI don't want to deal with down the
road, because a lot of timeswe do we're the cool girl, or
(47:14):
we ignore the red flag, givethe benefit of the doubt, think it's
something we could work on, andthen later down the road we're like,
oh shit, it's not just onered flag. It's a circus in this
bitch, because because you really can'tchange people. You can't change people.
I'm thinking of the Bridesmaids, likepeople change, but they really say the
(47:35):
same. Literally, you cannot changesomeone. Oh my god. Yeah maybe
yeah, all the whys too,like he's actually gay because it's too many
wise stranger. Yeah, I wantto remember text you two weeks ago.
(48:00):
She's valid, she's valid, butthat chill, what do you call?
You can consolidate this, like,I guess, like you can be more
concise, you know, Okay,it's not that long of a text,
you guys. It's like, Ithink she was pretty. I think she
was pretty conciseed. I think shewas pretty concise. Actually, I know
(48:21):
because the first whole two sentences youdon't need. I think it was a
perfect, perfectly constructed text. Ithink she said what she needs to say,
but I do think there are assumptionsthat were made. But I also
think her mind was made up andshe didn't want to be with him anymore.
And that's fine. Next to that. Next, I don't say that.
Next I would have folded. That'swhat I have to say. That's
(48:43):
okay, that's not a bad youknow, because you can go in and
you can still hold your ground onthe date, you know, Yeah,
you're gonna get hopefully a free mealor I still want to win. If
it went terrible, I would havetext literally that for the record, maybe
at this bar we're getting hammered,thank you, and we'll talk about it
(49:05):
on the pod next week. Okay, well, I think we'll wrap it
up there with all our texting politics. I'm going to text Carpenter way back
and we're gonna follow. I'm gonnatek all the toxic men that are still
that still remained in my life,right, Yeah, I love that toxic
journey for you. Uneventful this year, but next year I'll be cuffed to
(49:27):
watch period by the end of thisyear, by summer actually, so watch
everybody watch our world. Well,thanks so much for hanging out. We
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someone literally one person, but Iwas so excited. Someone left to
talk back about the podcast and likeabout a topic that was fire, So
you can always do that. I'mon air seven to midnight. But you
know, Leaf won during anyone's showbe like, Hey, I'm blah blah
blah, I'm calling in about forthe record, and I want to talk
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All right, we love you.We will talk to you next week.
I love you, Aye. Imean, I don't know do people
really change. I think they do, yeah, but I mean they still
stay who they are pretty much.I think we change all the time.
I think we stay the same,but grow, I guess a little bit.
I think if you're growing, thenyou're changing. But I mean we're
(50:55):
changing from who we are, whichwe always stay as. No, really,
I don't think so, think so. I know it even brick just
(51:15):
a sack. It just a sack. It just a sack. It just
allock, just all the sack.It the record
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