March 5, 2025 • 10 mins
On this week's episode we discuss:
1 in 3 adults are sleep deprived.
Kids are drinking too much caffeine.
The return of knobs and dials!
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Unknown (00:00):
John Tesch would give Gerard and Gib but this just
(00:02):
didn't like we didn't know thisone in three adults don't get
enough sleep to find us seven ormore hours a night and we sleep.
This is amazing. We sleep a fullhour less each night than people
did in the 1940s because therewas nothing to do. So my
grandparents didn't have butdidn't have electricity,
right? Electric Light keeps usup later. And that was one
thing. The light bulb was onething. We've got the light bulb
(00:26):
plugged into 220 by havingthese, by having these phones
and screens and TVs andeverything everywhere we go, and
Wi Fi in the house, it's crazy.
Get yourself a sleep mask. Keepyour phone outside of your
bedroom. These are the thingsthat like, the basic things that
we alllet's go through the basics.
Because the sleep mask thing.
You fought against this for awhile, but you
(00:46):
love it now. I do. They have onetoo. They have the good ones
that kind of rest around youreyes. They don't rest right on
your eyelid. Need a sleep mask.
I like a white noise machine.
You got to make sure thetemperature is right, and you
can't be looking at your phoneor any blue light, any screen
light about an hour before bed,and you should stop working two
to three hours before bed, 65 to68 degrees. That's cold. That's
(01:07):
very cool. You have a thing thatyou can't set right, that
freezes you out cold air intoyour bed,
refrigerator for my bed. Yeah, Idon't use it anymore. Yeah, I
understand why I was had to goto the hospital
cryo sleep exactly. I wanted tobring this to you, Gib because
you have three kids under theage of 13, and you're you coach
a lot of them in a lot ofdifferent sports, and so I mock
(01:29):
Children's Hospital. Nationalpoll found that 25% of parents
say their teenager has caffeinedaily. And now the experts are
saying that kids are landing inthe emergency room because of
this consuming too muchcaffeine. The the cases have
doubled among adolescents in thepast several years. Have you
seenany of this? I mean, I haven't
(01:50):
personally seen it, but Iabsolutely make sense, because
back in the day, when I was akid, if you wanted to get
caffeine, you had to drinkcoffee. And coffee was, you
know, it was bitter, you had togo to go to the coffee shop. And
so, like it was, it was sort ofa rite of passage that you
needed caffeine badly enoughthat you could drink coffee. But
now, you go to every coffeeshop, they've got 1000 different
sugary options. You go to everygrocery store, they've got these
(02:12):
high caffeine energy drinks onthe wall and kids, and they're
marketed to children. They'remarketed to athletic children.
So kids on the sports field arehaving a lot of them as a pre
game stuff to prime you for yourwhatever gonna be like urine
tests, next blood tests. Well.
So these kids are drinking thesesugary drinks. They don't
realize how much caffeine is init, because it's basically
(02:33):
tasteless. And they're havingthese issues. Yeah,
American Academy of Pediatricssays kids between the age of 12
and 18 should only have 100milligrams of caffeine per day.
That's the amount in one cup ofbrewed coffee. Yeah, that's it.
Not sort of the basic nine RedBulls.
No, definitely not go to thehospital. All right. It's John
Tesh GibGerard with some relationship
Intel, because, you know, it'swhere you come when you want
(02:54):
relationship Intel. Oh, yeah, meand Gib, if you're according to
the National Center forBiotechnology Information. If
you're freshly divorced or newlyseparated or married to an
Italian, that's just for me, becareful driving. Your risk of
car accidents increased by 400%and by the way, I've been
married 33 years, soeverything's fine because I know
(03:15):
how to duck.
So look, she thrives. You know,that's why, which is odd,
because she definitelyexternalizes her stress more
than you do, yeah, but thankyou. Let me just say that
regardless of whether you'redivorced or separated, what the
point that they're trying tomake is that divorce and
separation are distractingconcepts for your brain. They
(03:39):
are emotionally fraught. Even ifyou have an amicable divorce, it
is still an emotionally fraughttime. I have a friend who's been
going through an amicabledivorce for over a year, and
it's still every day, every timethere's a conversation about it,
it's emotionally fraught. Youshouldn't be driving when you
are emotionally distressed. Youjust shouldn't whether it's a
bad breakup, emotional a divorceor separation or losing a job,
(04:01):
whatever it is, drivingdistracted is as dangerous as
driving drunk, and you can'thelp but drive distracted. If
you're going through some sortof major breakup,
your risk of a car actuallyincreases 400%
Yeah, that's that's quite, quitethe issue risk,
all right. Gib here somethingthat I'm not going to do, go to
the park, find the kids monkeybars or jungle gym and do a dead
(04:24):
hang. I thought you say do achin up, as long as there's no
kids around, yeah. And by theway, there's kids around you
alone, you don't want to wanderaround anyway. Different
intelligence, grip strength isgood for more than opening jars.
It's a biomarker of aging. GoYes.
So being able to hang for oneminute is sort of the secret.
(04:46):
That's the That's the magicnumber. So being able to hang
for one minute in terms of gripstrength, it is a it is a big
indicator of a healthy brain, ofan overall healthy body. And
longevity. Also, if you can hangcomfortably for one minute, it.
Without, you know, without anysupport, it's actually really
good for your shoulder joints.
It puts your shoulder joints inthe right position. So if you
have shoulder impingement andpain, hanging building up to one
(05:07):
minute is a really great way toget there, really great way to
alleviate the shoulderimpingement. And yeah, you have
to, you have to build to it formost of us, but you should be
doing it every day. Yeah,go to the park, find the kids
monkey bars or the jungle gym,and do a dead hang so do
the chin up bar at the gym. Youdon't have to be around kids,
(05:28):
yeah, that issort of creepy, yeah, yeah,
okay, well, yeah. Well, we'llcheck this out. Okay. Ah,
finally, oh, maybe I can getmaybe I can just buy new stereo
now where the turntable touchscreens are out and buttons and
knobs are back. Gib Apple addedtwo new buttons to the iPhone.
16 home appliances like stovesor washing machines are
(05:51):
returning to knobs. My car hasknobs. Yes, a bunch of car
manufacturers reintroducingbuttons and dials. Wall Street
Journal calls it, quote,rebuttonizing.
I like it because, you know, Ihave, I have a family car of a
minivan, and I it is designedfor, you know, the car trip with
a lot of kids in it. And I lovethat. But one of the things
(06:13):
that's really nice is I have allof these controls that are right
on the steering wheel with realbuttons. Because here's the
deal, when you're driving,trying to work a touch screen
where you have to, you have toonly touch one spot on the
screen, and you have nowhere torest your hand and the car is
moving. It's almost impossible.
I want to be able to casuallyreach over and feel a knob under
my fingers and know exactly whatI'm doing before I do it,
(06:36):
because I have too much otherstuff going on in the car. I
need that. And my car knows thatI have the buttons, I have the
dials, and I have a lot of themright on my steering wheel.
Yeah, that's, that's really thebut the buttons are, are back.
And, you know, I have to tellyou that I'm thinking, I think,
I think all the old stuff is, isnew again. You would know this
(06:58):
because you're in carpool lineevery, every day, every day,
with not only your 13 year old.
Is what a seventh grader? Yeah.
But is she Jen? What? Oh, alpha.
Alpha. She's Gen Alpha. What'sGen Z older than her? Yeah, Jen,
alpha. So what's your seven yearold son? They come up with, I
think they're still Alpha.
They're not that far six yearsapart. But apparently they're,
(07:19):
they're into the whole analogthing. So we were releasing, as
you know, because you're a bigpart of it. We're releasing a
sports album coming up here andand everybody's saying, listen,
last, last two years, 50 millionvinyl albums were sold. In fact,
they're having a hard timefinding all the materials for so
that's just one of the thingscoming back, right? Well, the
reason why vinyl is coming backis because it's a centerpiece if
(07:42):
you're gonna actually buysomething, look, I can listen to
10,000 songs anywhere I go. Youknow, at any moment that I want
to, I can call upon any hit songbecause I have a subscription
service, but I don't own thatstuff, right? I don't have, I
don't have the like my my wholebedroom in high school and in
college was racks of CDs andtapes and vinyl I had. I had all
(08:05):
three formats, and so, like,that was just a whole wall of my
bedroom. Was just my musiccollection, and I was proud of
it, and I messed with it all thetime. And yeah, and there was
nothing to look at. There's now,there's nothing to look at while
it's playing. So when you werein your dorm room, right, and
you got all that writing on thealbum, you turn it over and
everything, yeah, it's and someguy in your, in your, in your
(08:25):
fraternity house comes in andand starts messing with it, and
you're like, and you can't touchthat, yeah, you know, and you
got to keep it in thecellophane. Those,
those, that's a 33 don't turn itup to 45 right? Yeah,
exactly. But this thing andthen, and you know what I mean,
as somebody who owns a bunch of,you know, digital music stuff. I
have synthesizers that I createdmusic on, you know, the night in
(08:46):
the 1980s that are worth a lotof money because
they have buttons on them.
They've had buttons. It's greatfor playing live. It's hard to
just, like, key up these virtualsynthesizers. When you're
playing live, you want to beable to walk over to the other
synthesizers, ohyeah, has a cool vibe, and the
computer dies, is like, Oh,yeah. But
look, the the idea of owningphysical media has actually
gotten really popular again,it's because the subscription
(09:08):
services lose movies all thetime, so people are going back
buying blu rays. And the vinylitself is really about, hey, I
really love this album, and it'sone thing to just listen to it a
lot. It's another thing to haveit have a place in my home the
way that albums did when I was akid. And that's what, that's
what people that's well,so I loved, I loved watching you
as a kid, when you were a kid,getting into albums, oh yeah.
And I decided you needed tolisten to Uriah. He
(09:32):
write, rush, oh, rush, come on.
Yeah. How do you learn the namesof people in the band if you
don't open the liner notes. Oh,who played keyboards on this?
The guy. And there'salways one guy in the band.
There's always one guy. You cansee this in the cover of Chicago
rush, yes, any of these bands,there's always one, even the
Rolling Stones, there's alwaysone guy in the album cover that
(09:53):
didn't want to look like hecared in the photo, there's
a guy. There's a guy I can'tremember. I don't know who it
is. I don't know Rolling Stoneswell enough. So you got, you
know, you got Nick Jagger,you've got Keith Richards. And
they, you know, they still looklike rock stars, and they're all
in their 70s, right? And there'sone guy who's dressing like, I'm
a guy in my 70s. I play golf.
(10:16):
There's no silk scarves, no,there's no leather. It's just a
quarter zip and a button down.
Yeah.
Anyway, if you look at the yescover, it goes everywhere from
John Anderson, who was he waslike a like a wood nymph, and
then Rick Wakeman had a cape onand had weighed way too much to
have a capeon. See a guy is like, I'm just,
(10:36):
I'm just wearing khakis. Wearingkhakis. I'm in rush. I'm in yes,
we've had a good time dialing itback to the 19 whatever it was.
John Tesh Gib Gerard, thanks forjoining us for the podcast. You.
John Tesch would give Gerard and Gib but this just
(00:02):
didn't like we didn't know thisone in three adults don't get
enough sleep to find us seven ormore hours a night and we sleep.
This is amazing. We sleep a fullhour less each night than people
did in the 1940s because therewas nothing to do. So my
grandparents didn't have butdidn't have electricity,
right? Electric Light keeps usup later. And that was one
thing. The light bulb was onething. We've got the light bulb
(00:26):
plugged into 220 by havingthese, by having these phones
and screens and TVs andeverything everywhere we go, and
Wi Fi in the house, it's crazy.
Get yourself a sleep mask. Keepyour phone outside of your
bedroom. These are the thingsthat like, the basic things that
we alllet's go through the basics.
Because the sleep mask thing.
You fought against this for awhile, but you
(00:46):
love it now. I do. They have onetoo. They have the good ones
that kind of rest around youreyes. They don't rest right on
your eyelid. Need a sleep mask.
I like a white noise machine.
You got to make sure thetemperature is right, and you
can't be looking at your phoneor any blue light, any screen
light about an hour before bed,and you should stop working two
to three hours before bed, 65 to68 degrees. That's cold. That's
(01:07):
very cool. You have a thing thatyou can't set right, that
freezes you out cold air intoyour bed,
refrigerator for my bed. Yeah, Idon't use it anymore. Yeah, I
understand why I was had to goto the hospital
cryo sleep exactly. I wanted tobring this to you, Gib because
you have three kids under theage of 13, and you're you coach
a lot of them in a lot ofdifferent sports, and so I mock
(01:29):
Children's Hospital. Nationalpoll found that 25% of parents
say their teenager has caffeinedaily. And now the experts are
saying that kids are landing inthe emergency room because of
this consuming too muchcaffeine. The the cases have
doubled among adolescents in thepast several years. Have you
seenany of this? I mean, I haven't
(01:50):
personally seen it, but Iabsolutely make sense, because
back in the day, when I was akid, if you wanted to get
caffeine, you had to drinkcoffee. And coffee was, you
know, it was bitter, you had togo to go to the coffee shop. And
so, like it was, it was sort ofa rite of passage that you
needed caffeine badly enoughthat you could drink coffee. But
now, you go to every coffeeshop, they've got 1000 different
sugary options. You go to everygrocery store, they've got these
(02:12):
high caffeine energy drinks onthe wall and kids, and they're
marketed to children. They'remarketed to athletic children.
So kids on the sports field arehaving a lot of them as a pre
game stuff to prime you for yourwhatever gonna be like urine
tests, next blood tests. Well.
So these kids are drinking thesesugary drinks. They don't
realize how much caffeine is init, because it's basically
(02:33):
tasteless. And they're havingthese issues. Yeah,
American Academy of Pediatricssays kids between the age of 12
and 18 should only have 100milligrams of caffeine per day.
That's the amount in one cup ofbrewed coffee. Yeah, that's it.
Not sort of the basic nine RedBulls.
No, definitely not go to thehospital. All right. It's John
Tesh GibGerard with some relationship
Intel, because, you know, it'swhere you come when you want
(02:54):
relationship Intel. Oh, yeah, meand Gib, if you're according to
the National Center forBiotechnology Information. If
you're freshly divorced or newlyseparated or married to an
Italian, that's just for me, becareful driving. Your risk of
car accidents increased by 400%and by the way, I've been
married 33 years, soeverything's fine because I know
(03:15):
how to duck.
So look, she thrives. You know,that's why, which is odd,
because she definitelyexternalizes her stress more
than you do, yeah, but thankyou. Let me just say that
regardless of whether you'redivorced or separated, what the
point that they're trying tomake is that divorce and
separation are distractingconcepts for your brain. They
(03:39):
are emotionally fraught. Even ifyou have an amicable divorce, it
is still an emotionally fraughttime. I have a friend who's been
going through an amicabledivorce for over a year, and
it's still every day, every timethere's a conversation about it,
it's emotionally fraught. Youshouldn't be driving when you
are emotionally distressed. Youjust shouldn't whether it's a
bad breakup, emotional a divorceor separation or losing a job,
(04:01):
whatever it is, drivingdistracted is as dangerous as
driving drunk, and you can'thelp but drive distracted. If
you're going through some sortof major breakup,
your risk of a car actuallyincreases 400%
Yeah, that's that's quite, quitethe issue risk,
all right. Gib here somethingthat I'm not going to do, go to
the park, find the kids monkeybars or jungle gym and do a dead
(04:24):
hang. I thought you say do achin up, as long as there's no
kids around, yeah. And by theway, there's kids around you
alone, you don't want to wanderaround anyway. Different
intelligence, grip strength isgood for more than opening jars.
It's a biomarker of aging. GoYes.
So being able to hang for oneminute is sort of the secret.
(04:46):
That's the That's the magicnumber. So being able to hang
for one minute in terms of gripstrength, it is a it is a big
indicator of a healthy brain, ofan overall healthy body. And
longevity. Also, if you can hangcomfortably for one minute, it.
Without, you know, without anysupport, it's actually really
good for your shoulder joints.
It puts your shoulder joints inthe right position. So if you
have shoulder impingement andpain, hanging building up to one
(05:07):
minute is a really great way toget there, really great way to
alleviate the shoulderimpingement. And yeah, you have
to, you have to build to it formost of us, but you should be
doing it every day. Yeah,go to the park, find the kids
monkey bars or the jungle gym,and do a dead hang so do
the chin up bar at the gym. Youdon't have to be around kids,
(05:28):
yeah, that issort of creepy, yeah, yeah,
okay, well, yeah. Well, we'llcheck this out. Okay. Ah,
finally, oh, maybe I can getmaybe I can just buy new stereo
now where the turntable touchscreens are out and buttons and
knobs are back. Gib Apple addedtwo new buttons to the iPhone.
16 home appliances like stovesor washing machines are
(05:51):
returning to knobs. My car hasknobs. Yes, a bunch of car
manufacturers reintroducingbuttons and dials. Wall Street
Journal calls it, quote,rebuttonizing.
I like it because, you know, Ihave, I have a family car of a
minivan, and I it is designedfor, you know, the car trip with
a lot of kids in it. And I lovethat. But one of the things
(06:13):
that's really nice is I have allof these controls that are right
on the steering wheel with realbuttons. Because here's the
deal, when you're driving,trying to work a touch screen
where you have to, you have toonly touch one spot on the
screen, and you have nowhere torest your hand and the car is
moving. It's almost impossible.
I want to be able to casuallyreach over and feel a knob under
my fingers and know exactly whatI'm doing before I do it,
(06:36):
because I have too much otherstuff going on in the car. I
need that. And my car knows thatI have the buttons, I have the
dials, and I have a lot of themright on my steering wheel.
Yeah, that's, that's really thebut the buttons are, are back.
And, you know, I have to tellyou that I'm thinking, I think,
I think all the old stuff is, isnew again. You would know this
(06:58):
because you're in carpool lineevery, every day, every day,
with not only your 13 year old.
Is what a seventh grader? Yeah.
But is she Jen? What? Oh, alpha.
Alpha. She's Gen Alpha. What'sGen Z older than her? Yeah, Jen,
alpha. So what's your seven yearold son? They come up with, I
think they're still Alpha.
They're not that far six yearsapart. But apparently they're,
(07:19):
they're into the whole analogthing. So we were releasing, as
you know, because you're a bigpart of it. We're releasing a
sports album coming up here andand everybody's saying, listen,
last, last two years, 50 millionvinyl albums were sold. In fact,
they're having a hard timefinding all the materials for so
that's just one of the thingscoming back, right? Well, the
reason why vinyl is coming backis because it's a centerpiece if
(07:42):
you're gonna actually buysomething, look, I can listen to
10,000 songs anywhere I go. Youknow, at any moment that I want
to, I can call upon any hit songbecause I have a subscription
service, but I don't own thatstuff, right? I don't have, I
don't have the like my my wholebedroom in high school and in
college was racks of CDs andtapes and vinyl I had. I had all
(08:05):
three formats, and so, like,that was just a whole wall of my
bedroom. Was just my musiccollection, and I was proud of
it, and I messed with it all thetime. And yeah, and there was
nothing to look at. There's now,there's nothing to look at while
it's playing. So when you werein your dorm room, right, and
you got all that writing on thealbum, you turn it over and
everything, yeah, it's and someguy in your, in your, in your
(08:25):
fraternity house comes in andand starts messing with it, and
you're like, and you can't touchthat, yeah, you know, and you
got to keep it in thecellophane. Those,
those, that's a 33 don't turn itup to 45 right? Yeah,
exactly. But this thing andthen, and you know what I mean,
as somebody who owns a bunch of,you know, digital music stuff. I
have synthesizers that I createdmusic on, you know, the night in
(08:46):
the 1980s that are worth a lotof money because
they have buttons on them.
They've had buttons. It's greatfor playing live. It's hard to
just, like, key up these virtualsynthesizers. When you're
playing live, you want to beable to walk over to the other
synthesizers, ohyeah, has a cool vibe, and the
computer dies, is like, Oh,yeah. But
look, the the idea of owningphysical media has actually
gotten really popular again,it's because the subscription
(09:08):
services lose movies all thetime, so people are going back
buying blu rays. And the vinylitself is really about, hey, I
really love this album, and it'sone thing to just listen to it a
lot. It's another thing to haveit have a place in my home the
way that albums did when I was akid. And that's what, that's
what people that's well,so I loved, I loved watching you
as a kid, when you were a kid,getting into albums, oh yeah.
And I decided you needed tolisten to Uriah. He
(09:32):
write, rush, oh, rush, come on.
Yeah. How do you learn the namesof people in the band if you
don't open the liner notes. Oh,who played keyboards on this?
The guy. And there'salways one guy in the band.
There's always one guy. You cansee this in the cover of Chicago
rush, yes, any of these bands,there's always one, even the
Rolling Stones, there's alwaysone guy in the album cover that
(09:53):
didn't want to look like hecared in the photo, there's
a guy. There's a guy I can'tremember. I don't know who it
is. I don't know Rolling Stoneswell enough. So you got, you
know, you got Nick Jagger,you've got Keith Richards. And
they, you know, they still looklike rock stars, and they're all
in their 70s, right? And there'sone guy who's dressing like, I'm
a guy in my 70s. I play golf.
(10:16):
There's no silk scarves, no,there's no leather. It's just a
quarter zip and a button down.
Yeah.
Anyway, if you look at the yescover, it goes everywhere from
John Anderson, who was he waslike a like a wood nymph, and
then Rick Wakeman had a cape onand had weighed way too much to
have a capeon. See a guy is like, I'm just,
(10:36):
I'm just wearing khakis. Wearingkhakis. I'm in rush. I'm in yes,
we've had a good time dialing itback to the 19 whatever it was.
John Tesh Gib Gerard, thanks forjoining us for the podcast. You.
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