April 22, 2025 • 23 mins
Mikey V sits down with longtime friend and recent winner of The Bachelor, Juliana Pasquarosa, about her journey from being nominated by her sister through receiving the final rose. During the interview, she talks about her unique experiences while on the show, including negative encounters with social media bullies, surprise support from pop star Ariana Grande, close calls with season finale spoilers and her reliance on family throughout the entire Bachelor journey. She also talks about what is to come from her new life in Boston with fiancé Grant Ellis.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Joining Kisswanawait not only one of my very good friends
for now going on almost like fifteen years, but also
the first ever Boston winner of The Bachelor. Juliana, Welcome
on in.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Thanks Mike Bee.
Speaker 1 (00:13):
It's been a crazy story because I feel like I've
been on this journey almost with you from day one.
And I could see your sister Dominique right now on
her couch, drinking her red wine, signing you up. Talk
about that first conversation when she told you, Hey, Juli,
I's signed you up for the Bachelor.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
She didn't tell me.
Speaker 3 (00:31):
I got a phone call from somebody in production asking
me if I had any interest, and said they told
me that my sister signed me up. And so it
was a quick fifteen minute conversation. And Dominique was at
work and I texted her I said, did you sign
me up for the Bachelor?
Speaker 1 (00:45):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (00:46):
And she's like, oh my god, did they call you?
And I was like yes.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
So it was crazy.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
I would have thought that was a prank phone call first.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
Well, me too, And you know it's crazy.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
I never answer like numbers that I don't have saved
in my phone, and it was in LA number I
had just gotten out of the shower, and I was like,
I picked it up, and she asked me to FaceTime.
So then I was like, uh, like I need it's
almost creepy.
Speaker 1 (01:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
I was like, I need like ten minutes to like
brush my hair and like get clothes on. And so
I called her back and then I and I saw
her face and it seemed legit, and I was like,
I don't know what's happening, but I guess I'll just
kind of go with it.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
So I says, just signed you up. But what's your
first thought when you're like, oh man, the Batchelor's comment,
are you excited? Are you like, I don't want to
do this? What are your thoughts on that?
Speaker 2 (01:32):
You know, I had just accepted a new position.
Speaker 3 (01:36):
I left my previous job and I worked really hard
to get this new job, and I was like, I
don't know what's going to happen, So I was a
little bit hesitant, but I felt like there was no
harm in at least going through the process of it.
And then I was like the process kept going on,
I was like getting really excited and I was like,
oh my god, I think I kind of want to
do this.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
What was your because at that point. Obviously, I've never
met Grant. Yeah, and I don't even know if you had.
You probably had watched the last season, but you weren't
like a die hard, Like what was your impression of
Grant or the day that you found out that he
was going to be the batchelor before you knew him?
Speaker 3 (02:11):
Well, my sister and I strategically watched GEN season and
took notes on like my top favorite guys and like
things they liked and things they didn't like, and so
kind of just watching Grant through the throughout the beginning
of GEN season, I was like, Oh, this guy's like
he's really cute and he seems like super genuine. And
(02:32):
then it was he got announced in such an odd
way where it wasn't like really known. It was like
through a news outlet, and I was freaking out.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
I was at my.
Speaker 3 (02:41):
Sister's house, definitely a couple of glasses too deep into
the red line, and I was like, that's my man,
Like Cashi in sixty eight weeks, like how about that?
Like I was so excited and uh, I just yeah,
I felt really like I had good vibes about him.
Speaker 1 (02:57):
So from the very from the very beginning, you were
into and you were.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
Excited that he was about Oh, super excited.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
It's such a crazy process. And again watching it as
a friend and having your friend go through it, what
is something that you learned through the bachelor process that
about yourself? You know?
Speaker 3 (03:13):
It's so what's so crazy about is I came home
and a couple of my aunts said to me, like,
you know, you feel it. You seem like you have
this like newfound kind of confidence, and I think.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
I've I going through it.
Speaker 3 (03:26):
I was really nervous about having relationships with the girls,
Like I've never been in like a setting like that,
other than when I joined a sorority for like a
hot minute in college and it just like wasn't my vibe.
I wasn't like into the big girl gang group, Like
I have my people and I know they're like good people.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
But leaving there, I was like, oh my gosh.
Speaker 3 (03:44):
I was amazed at like how awesome the girls feedback
on who they thought that I was is if that
makes sense, And I don't know, it gave me just
like a newfound confidence truly that like I I really
do try to put my best foot forward in terms
of like protecting people and protecting myself and making people
feel loved and welcomed. Like that was all the feedback
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the girls gave me, And I was like, damn, like
that was really cool.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
Yeah, you kind of put your best self out and
you're kind of saying like you aren't a fan of
the sorority life for like the girl gang life. But
knowing you again as a friend, it was funny to
me when people were calling you the party girl. Yeah,
I know because over the years I have to beg
you to go to a club and you but you
never were interested really in going out. You were more
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like a glass of wine on the couch of your family,
your dad or your mom for sure. What was it
like being called the party girl after that? You know?
Speaker 3 (04:38):
It's it's one of those things that feeds into the
fact that like social media is really kind of fake
in that sense, like people don't know you, they see
what they see, and the people that know me know
that about me, And so it was weird because it
was just so out of like my character to be,
you know, known as like the party girl. Same time,
(05:00):
I was like, listen, I do I love to have
a good time. I'm not going to deny that. So
nights like this like they do come around often, like
with my crew. It just like you got to give
me a little bit more convincing to get there.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
Yeah, I got tot you a hundred times. Yeah. And
then you talk about social media. I think this is
good for anybody who's a kid or a celebrity or
anything at all, but social media bullying, Yeah, how do
you deal with that?
Speaker 3 (05:27):
You know, you really have to pay attention to what's
going on in your real life. I think you know,
people online are so mean. They're keyboard warriors, like they're
they're faceless, and they will say whatever they want to
try and hurt you. And I think it's really important
to just remember that they don't know you and their
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opinions do not matter, And like you really have to
just pay attention to the people that love you and
know you, because those are the opinions in.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
Your life that matter.
Speaker 3 (05:57):
You know, Easier said than done. I have days where
I struggle with it. I'll actually read some of the
nasty dms or comments and I'll let it get to me.
But it's a quick turnaround because then I call my
dad or my sister and or my brother, and I'm like,
guys and they're like they'll laugh at it, you know,
and they're like, don't think about it for even one
more second. I'm like, Okay, good, we're back. We're back
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in action.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
You feel like the most powerful thing you can do
in that moment is not give it life, not respond,
not acknowledge it.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
Yes, just like totally.
Speaker 3 (06:26):
Ignoring it and acting like it is the white noise
that it is is like the best way to go
about it, because the minute you engage in it, it
adds more fuel to the fire and it gives people
another reason to keep talking about it. And it's really
just it's blissful ignorance, if you will, Like I didn't
know what you're saying. I don't even care what you're saying.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
And I think it's good for even kids to hear that,
right because even when I grew up, right, you went
to school, you might get bolded whatever, but then you
went home and it was gone. Yes, now a social
media that falls them everywhere, and it's good for them
to hear that from you. But lean on your family, yeah,
lean on those around you. How important was it going
through a process like The Bachelor, which is an amazing process,
but there's a lot going on. How important was it
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to have such a strong family bond that you have.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
It was everything.
Speaker 3 (07:11):
I mean, even before I left, I had my family
and a couple of my friends write me letters because
I knew I wasn't going to be able to talk
to them, and I just wanted to be reminded of
like the people that I had waiting for me back
at home that like had my best interest in mind.
And I read those letters like every single day when
I was gone and then coming home like Monday nights.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
I couldn't have asked for, you know, a better.
Speaker 3 (07:34):
Setup with my girlfriends, and you know, sometimes the guys
came and just like the support because it's that is
what it is, you know. I was just so I
am so blessed to have that around me at all
times that I really paid attention to it throughout this
whole process.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
And your support was definitely strong, again from probably strangers
they don't know in the greater Boston area, yeah, but
also from your friend group and everybody went to LA
for the finale.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
I know, oh my gosh, I was.
Speaker 1 (08:01):
Lucky enough to be at the finale with you in LA.
But there's one point in my mind where Grant and
your dad are kind of jumping around on the dance floor. Yes,
when you got to see that, how did that feel? Oh?
Speaker 2 (08:11):
It was such a good feeling.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
You know.
Speaker 3 (08:14):
I knew after Hometowns that my family really liked Grant,
and I knew that Grant really felt comfortable.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
With my family.
Speaker 3 (08:22):
And to see just like that moment of oh my gosh,
we can be out in public together. We are having
a ball, like they are jumping up and down like crazy,
It was like, this is what it's about, you know,
as you finding your people, you finding your comfortability and
just being happy.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
And how are you guys doing now post Bachelor? How's
life feeling for you? Guys?
Speaker 3 (08:44):
It's feeling really good. You know, it's really exciting. There's
just so much travel. It's definitely a bit draining, I
will say in terms of, like, you know, my social battery.
You know, like me, I am one that likes to
sit on the couch at my sister's house with a
glass of wine and so like going out and you know,
being recognized is so amazing. And then it's also just like,
(09:05):
so it's straining my my social battery for sure. And
I know I can tell with him too, Like I
can tell when he's getting low on the social battery too,
and so then we kind of just need to like
balance each other out.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
But we do a really good job of that.
Speaker 1 (09:20):
It's kind of a busting and a curse, but I
think there's a lot of good from it, right, would
you say that? Like being able to be noticed, being
able to walk around and kind of there's a lot
I think the good outweighs about it, would you right?
Speaker 3 (09:30):
One hundred percent? Oh my gosh, it is like it's
such a whirlwind of something. I'm still trying to grasp
that people a know who I am, like strangers and
then be like care you know, And I think that
that is just so amazing. I feel so lucky to
have that opportunity because you know, I do really want
to do good with that eventually. It's just grappling my
(09:51):
head around all of it right now, and like one day,
you know, I want to have a community of people that,
you know, my sister and I trying to start with
the nice girl's label. It's like, you know, you can
do whatever you want in life, and you can be
from whatever walk of life, but as long as you
like are kind and you want to spread love, like
you can totally sit with us, Like, come on.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
Girl, it makes me bring it up, but you're Nana
as a quote, yeah, what is that exact quote? Again?
Speaker 2 (10:16):
It's nice to be nice and that's.
Speaker 1 (10:18):
Such an amazing thing. And it's like you guys really
live and breathe.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
Every day for sure. I mean it.
Speaker 3 (10:24):
I just feel like my Nanna. You know, she she
was She's the matriarch of our whole family. She created
this foundation where you know, my family might have different,
you know, different faiths. They kind of differ between Christianity
and Catholicism. You know. Some of us have different like
political beliefs, some of us have different jobs. And it's like,
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no matter what your differences are in life, at the
center of your entire existence is family and love and
it is just nice to be nice and accept people
and love people and choose them like over and over.
And that's why my family and I are still so close.
You know, we're like kind of spread out a lot
across the United States, like it's a family in California, Colorado, Florida,
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mass but it's like we talk all the time. We
are still so close, and it's because of her, and I.
Speaker 1 (11:12):
Think that's powerful to about your family, and we actually
won't get into it, but yeah, people could also look
at like you're at home and everything your family, but like,
like you guys have this like easy, go lucky, like
very simple family. Like yeah, you know, you guys have
been through it. Yeah, and you just got stronger through
the tough times. It's not like you guys are living
the white picket fence life and yeah, everybody's rich and
like money's fine around right now. You guys have been
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through real stress and I think that's important that people understand that. Yeah. Also,
you talked about social media having a following people noticing you.
The other thing is really interesting to me is like,
of all my female friends, even your sister, you were
never one that I ever thought wanted a following or
wanted to be a TikToker or wanted to get brand deals.
How does it feel now that you automatically have this following?
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Like is it a weird feeling?
Speaker 2 (11:57):
It's so crazy, you know.
Speaker 3 (11:59):
My even my friend would say to me, because I do,
I like to like put stories out on Instagram. I
love to like travel and kind of like showcase that
those fun parts of my life.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
But I never really thought I would be like.
Speaker 3 (12:12):
In like on the end game of like trying to
monopolize it or monetize it. And so now that I
like have that, it's like people DM me and they
want to know, like what I do on a daily basis,
or you know, what my skincare routine is, and I'm like, oh,
like I don't know. Yeah, that is literally what I've
been replying to people. They're like, what's your makeup routine?
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I'm like reposting it onto my story. I tag Dominique.
I'm like, she knows everything, Like go to her like
to know it page whatever.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
And yeah, So it's it's hard.
Speaker 3 (12:43):
It's hard to like figure out how to at least,
you know, let people in through like the connection and
showing them my like life without feeling like, now it's
like a job, you know, because it's not. It wasn't
anything I ever really wanted.
Speaker 1 (12:58):
Two quick crazy stories and then we're gonna talk about Austin,
but okay, one was there was two moments when the
season almost got not blown but like revealed that you
had won, and I kind of felt like I was
in the center of both of them. But one of
them was not in New York's Tam at my house
talk about that and how that almost blew the season.
Speaker 2 (13:15):
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 3 (13:16):
So yeah, So we were making funny tiktoks at your
house and Grant was in New York for the ball
Drop and he, I think had a little bit too
much to drink and I DM him the video.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
I was like, look at this, like this is what
I'm doing.
Speaker 3 (13:33):
And he liked it, and then I didn't notice it.
And then I was like driving home and it was
like three am, and somebody texted me, why does Grant
like follow Mike e V? And I was like, oh god,
what is it. I was like, he needs media training immediately,
and I tried to call him but he was passed out.
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And then the next morning he woke up and.
Speaker 2 (13:55):
Was like, I didn't I didn't follow him, Like He's like,
or maybe I did.
Speaker 3 (13:59):
Maybe I I thought that would make it better, and
I'm like that makes it so much worse.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
But it's funny. Is I woke up the next morning
being like, oh wow, Grant followed me. Like at first,
I was like that's pretty cool. Then I was like,
or is he like? Because I didn't know him at
this point, he like, who's this guy hanging out with
my girl? Ah, So at first I didn't know how
to interpret it. Now that I know him, I know
they definitely was not doing that, of course, but being
the outside, I was like, oh man, this guy's gonna
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hate me now when we all become friends or something
like that.
Speaker 2 (14:26):
Oh my god. Yeah, that was a whirlwind.
Speaker 3 (14:27):
I mean we woke up to a bazillion text calls
and like people were congratulating me, and I was like,
oh my god, it's like.
Speaker 2 (14:36):
One thing, but people hold on to anything, you know.
Speaker 1 (14:39):
It was that, And then there was a moment I
think Reality Steve pointed out that you were at my
wife's bachelor party bachelor party, but you weren't at our wedding,
which is the same day when you got engaged to Grant. Yes,
talk about that, Lee, Because I didn't follow the whole
thing either.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
That was crazy to me.
Speaker 3 (14:53):
I mean, really, I get that people want to try
and maybe like blow the secret or whatever, but I
don't how Reality Steve has enough time to pay attention
to that, because when we were in Vegas for Kelsey's bachelorette,
like that was a really long time ago and it
was before you know, I even knew about that potentially
(15:13):
going on, and any think, so I'm like, how the
heck did he put all of these things together? And
then also he must be stalking you guys, because at
that point he's now like paying attention to your wedding timeline,
and so it felt so crazy to just be like,
you know, oh, like I was supposed to be at
that wedding. I even brought the bridesmaids dress and I
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wore it on the show just in case you know
it is.
Speaker 1 (15:38):
It where that gives me a false sense of like
you were in the right place at the right time
with the right guy, because my wedding or our wedding
was in the dr two resorts over where you were
getting engaged at the same like the world can't bring
that together any better, I think.
Speaker 3 (15:51):
I for some reason, there were just like signs from
the minute my sister signed me up and I got
that call that like I knew that this, like my
non was kind of just like doing her thing up
there and like making things like happen for me. I
just know it because it is it's like a difference
between like right, right time, right place, but also just
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like kind of like having faith in the universe to
be like, whatever happens happens. And when you let that
like mindset kind of rule your life.
Speaker 2 (16:19):
You see things differently. And I'm like, there's just no
way like that.
Speaker 3 (16:23):
You guys were that close to me, but so far mentally,
you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (16:28):
It's almost like you guys are at our wedding and
we're at your engagement. So you guys are moving. He's
moving to Boston. How did that conversation go about him
moving here to Boston?
Speaker 3 (16:38):
Yeah, I mean, I think throughout the whole season, he
saw how much I talked about my family and how
important they were to me, And during overnights, you know,
I brought it up to him. I was like, listen,
if it is me at the end, like I want
you to know I will not be moving from my family.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
Oh so you were honest about that. You're not moving,
You're not leaving Boston no matter what.
Speaker 2 (16:57):
Yes, And he was just he was cool with it.
Speaker 3 (17:00):
You know, I know that he has his mom and
his grandfather, grandfather and some of his cousins in Houston
that he's really you know, he's really close with. So
I didn't want him to feel like he had to
make this like huge sacrifice for me. If he didn't
want to do that, I just knew that.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
Like I was really like, for sure not leaving my
family in Boston.
Speaker 1 (17:21):
And then so he is moving here. You guys are
going to start living your life here in Boston.
Speaker 2 (17:25):
Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 1 (17:26):
What's one thing I know? You guys went to Red
Doctor opening day? Yeah, went to the North End. How
are both those Boston experiences amazing?
Speaker 3 (17:32):
It was so just it's it's so fun to do
the things that I love to do now with him,
and he's like never been to.
Speaker 2 (17:38):
A Celtics game, He's never been to the North End.
Speaker 3 (17:40):
So getting to watch somebody experience my favorite things for
the first time is in so fun.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
Is there anything in Boston that you have not experience
yet or your excited experience the first time with Grant?
Speaker 2 (17:53):
And if yeah, I don't know that there is. I
mean I really would love to go, like to.
Speaker 3 (18:00):
A Bruins game. Honestly, I think that that would be
really sick. I went to Game seven with my dad though,
like years ago, and it was so fun. But that
was the first time I ever did it, and I
was like, oh, I want to go like to these
games more often.
Speaker 1 (18:12):
Yeah, that'd be super cool. Yeah. Such a good sports town, yes,
or city to be in. So that's cool for going
to be there. Yeah. You keep talking about family wunder
the game or your dad. Yeah, one that I definitely
want to ask because I was talked about a lot. Yeah,
grant sister didn't seem happy at certain moments of the finale.
Have you guys talked that out? Oh?
Speaker 2 (18:30):
Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 3 (18:31):
I think, like truly, I think RBF is like a full,
a full thing. I think sometimes I have it. I
think that Taylor is like the funniest, kindest person ever.
I think that that finale was hard for you know, her,
Grant's family. I think that, you know, my mom got
up and walked out during uncomfortable moments, and I think
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it's just like, you know, when we finally got to
the STK after party, like that is where we were like, okay,
let's breathe, let's have fun.
Speaker 1 (19:02):
You know.
Speaker 3 (19:02):
It's just such high intensity that it is what it is.
But people read into anything.
Speaker 1 (19:07):
You know, but the families are meshing well together.
Speaker 2 (19:09):
Super well awesome.
Speaker 1 (19:11):
Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:12):
The other crazy thing about the show and it kind
of is what you signed up for right where we
live in, but your most private moment of your life
other people can talk about. Yeah, does that give you
empathy for like a mega celebrity like Justin Bieber who's
privacy has been stolen from his entire life?
Speaker 3 (19:28):
Oh my gosh, Yeah, it's crazy because you know, I
do feel like really strongly that everyone like there's a
level of privacy that I just feel like everybody, by
nature as humans like should have. And you know, once
you step into reality TV or you know, becoming a
celebrity from a really young age, like that level is
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just like blurred a bit in the line. Because you
want to let people in to connect and relate, have
people be able to relate to you, but like you
also have to be able to protect your peace of mind.
And like somebody like Justin Bieber or even like Ariana Grande,
it's like they have no ability to really protect their
peace of mind other than ignoring what people are saying, right,
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And so it takes a lot of mental strength and
having people, you know, talk about moments that I would
have thought would have remained.
Speaker 2 (20:21):
Private, you know, by a certain degree.
Speaker 3 (20:24):
You know, it's hurtful to me so I can't imagine
like the adjustment that was for Justin Bieber growing up
and just having to constantly have everything he did be
dissected and somebody has an opinion on it.
Speaker 2 (20:38):
It's crazy.
Speaker 3 (20:38):
I feel sad, but I also like, wow, they're really strong.
Speaker 1 (20:43):
And to make you understand when they do out like
act out or do something crazy, it's like, what do
you want this person to do?
Speaker 3 (20:48):
I know right, like to a certain degree, people are,
you know, like they have enough strength to just ignore it.
But there's going to be a time when somebody's just
like I've had enough, Like I am done with this.
And I know Grant and I talk about that all
the time. We're like, oh, we're like so over this comment.
Let's just respond. And then it's like, okay, calm down,
(21:08):
let's breathe, let it go. But when that happens, like
to celebrities every day, every move, I get it.
Speaker 2 (21:16):
I get it.
Speaker 1 (21:17):
Yeah, what keeps saying one more thing, one last thing?
And I mean, actually cut this out if you don't
want to talk about it. But you brought her up
Ariana Grande DMed you.
Speaker 3 (21:26):
Yes, Oh my gosh, she did. Her and her mom
they're like the kindest ever. They just wanted to show
their support. And you know, I think that that was
like truly a fever dream for me because I've been
an Ariana Grande fan since like forever, and you know,
I went through a phase where I had my hair
like half a half down, like yeah, and I was like,
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I want to be Ariana, and yeah, I think it's
so cool and so like kind of weird too in
a sense to feel like real celebrities like know who
you are? You like they said my name out loud
at one point probably or they like watched me on
TV and like saw my face. You know, it's such
a weird, crazy, cool fun thing.
Speaker 1 (22:12):
Like arian her mom were sitting at dinner talking.
Speaker 2 (22:13):
About you, like yeah, oh my god, probably.
Speaker 1 (22:16):
What did they say? What did the mom or underground
DM you.
Speaker 3 (22:19):
Her mom responded to one of my stories of Grant
and I and said, you know, I'm so like congratulations,
like sending you, you know, so much happiness and are
sending you so much like love, And Ariana Grande was like,
you know, the same thing. She was like congratulations like
angel like with a bunch of exclamation marks, and was
like this is so cool. And then I was like,
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oh my god, this is so cool, and yeah it was.
It was really sweet. I hope that you know, I
appreciate the support, especially from somebody that I've admired my
whole life, and it just kind of validates the fact that,
you know, no matter what the craziness of the world
is going going on, and even though you know, I
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don't know Ariana Grande, it's like to feel like I'm
that she resonated with me or supports me in whatever capacity.
Like that's so cool, and I can walk away being
like listen, Ariana Grande at one point said my name,
I can die happy.
Speaker 1 (23:15):
Yeah. And it could even be the point that she's
been her privacy has been stolen a lot of her life, right,
and she's like, Hey, this girl's going to go through
something that's kind of tough. Yeah, and like maybe I
need to give her some love and show her some support.
Speaker 2 (23:26):
Totally.
Speaker 1 (23:27):
So I feel like we have to end on our
in a Grande. Yeah, thank you so much again, Juliana.
The first ever, which actually Bally Cossa taught me that
the first ever Bachelor winner from Boston appreciate hag O kis.
Speaker 2 (23:39):
Yeah, thanks for having Mike vie
Joining Kisswanawait not only one of my very good friends
for now going on almost like fifteen years, but also
the first ever Boston winner of The Bachelor. Juliana, Welcome
on in.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Thanks Mike Bee.
Speaker 1 (00:13):
It's been a crazy story because I feel like I've
been on this journey almost with you from day one.
And I could see your sister Dominique right now on
her couch, drinking her red wine, signing you up. Talk
about that first conversation when she told you, Hey, Juli,
I's signed you up for the Bachelor.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
She didn't tell me.
Speaker 3 (00:31):
I got a phone call from somebody in production asking
me if I had any interest, and said they told
me that my sister signed me up. And so it
was a quick fifteen minute conversation. And Dominique was at
work and I texted her I said, did you sign
me up for the Bachelor?
Speaker 1 (00:45):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (00:46):
And she's like, oh my god, did they call you?
And I was like yes.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
So it was crazy.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
I would have thought that was a prank phone call first.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
Well, me too, And you know it's crazy.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
I never answer like numbers that I don't have saved
in my phone, and it was in LA number I
had just gotten out of the shower, and I was like,
I picked it up, and she asked me to FaceTime.
So then I was like, uh, like I need it's
almost creepy.
Speaker 1 (01:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
I was like, I need like ten minutes to like
brush my hair and like get clothes on. And so
I called her back and then I and I saw
her face and it seemed legit, and I was like,
I don't know what's happening, but I guess I'll just
kind of go with it.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
So I says, just signed you up. But what's your
first thought when you're like, oh man, the Batchelor's comment,
are you excited? Are you like, I don't want to
do this? What are your thoughts on that?
Speaker 2 (01:32):
You know, I had just accepted a new position.
Speaker 3 (01:36):
I left my previous job and I worked really hard
to get this new job, and I was like, I
don't know what's going to happen, So I was a
little bit hesitant, but I felt like there was no
harm in at least going through the process of it.
And then I was like the process kept going on,
I was like getting really excited and I was like,
oh my god, I think I kind of want to
do this.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
What was your because at that point. Obviously, I've never
met Grant. Yeah, and I don't even know if you had.
You probably had watched the last season, but you weren't
like a die hard, Like what was your impression of
Grant or the day that you found out that he
was going to be the batchelor before you knew him?
Speaker 3 (02:11):
Well, my sister and I strategically watched GEN season and
took notes on like my top favorite guys and like
things they liked and things they didn't like, and so
kind of just watching Grant through the throughout the beginning
of GEN season, I was like, Oh, this guy's like
he's really cute and he seems like super genuine. And
(02:32):
then it was he got announced in such an odd
way where it wasn't like really known. It was like
through a news outlet, and I was freaking out.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
I was at my.
Speaker 3 (02:41):
Sister's house, definitely a couple of glasses too deep into
the red line, and I was like, that's my man,
Like Cashi in sixty eight weeks, like how about that?
Like I was so excited and uh, I just yeah,
I felt really like I had good vibes about him.
Speaker 1 (02:57):
So from the very from the very beginning, you were
into and you were.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
Excited that he was about Oh, super excited.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
It's such a crazy process. And again watching it as
a friend and having your friend go through it, what
is something that you learned through the bachelor process that
about yourself? You know?
Speaker 3 (03:13):
It's so what's so crazy about is I came home
and a couple of my aunts said to me, like,
you know, you feel it. You seem like you have
this like newfound kind of confidence, and I think.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
I've I going through it.
Speaker 3 (03:26):
I was really nervous about having relationships with the girls,
Like I've never been in like a setting like that,
other than when I joined a sorority for like a
hot minute in college and it just like wasn't my vibe.
I wasn't like into the big girl gang group, Like
I have my people and I know they're like good people.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
But leaving there, I was like, oh my gosh.
Speaker 3 (03:44):
I was amazed at like how awesome the girls feedback
on who they thought that I was is if that
makes sense, And I don't know, it gave me just
like a newfound confidence truly that like I I really
do try to put my best foot forward in terms
of like protecting people and protecting myself and making people
feel loved and welcomed. Like that was all the feedback
(04:08):
the girls gave me, And I was like, damn, like
that was really cool.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
Yeah, you kind of put your best self out and
you're kind of saying like you aren't a fan of
the sorority life for like the girl gang life. But
knowing you again as a friend, it was funny to
me when people were calling you the party girl. Yeah,
I know because over the years I have to beg
you to go to a club and you but you
never were interested really in going out. You were more
(04:31):
like a glass of wine on the couch of your family,
your dad or your mom for sure. What was it
like being called the party girl after that? You know?
Speaker 3 (04:38):
It's it's one of those things that feeds into the
fact that like social media is really kind of fake
in that sense, like people don't know you, they see
what they see, and the people that know me know
that about me, And so it was weird because it
was just so out of like my character to be,
you know, known as like the party girl. Same time,
(05:00):
I was like, listen, I do I love to have
a good time. I'm not going to deny that. So
nights like this like they do come around often, like
with my crew. It just like you got to give
me a little bit more convincing to get there.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
Yeah, I got tot you a hundred times. Yeah. And
then you talk about social media. I think this is
good for anybody who's a kid or a celebrity or
anything at all, but social media bullying, Yeah, how do
you deal with that?
Speaker 3 (05:27):
You know, you really have to pay attention to what's
going on in your real life. I think you know,
people online are so mean. They're keyboard warriors, like they're
they're faceless, and they will say whatever they want to
try and hurt you. And I think it's really important
to just remember that they don't know you and their
(05:48):
opinions do not matter, And like you really have to
just pay attention to the people that love you and
know you, because those are the opinions in.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
Your life that matter.
Speaker 3 (05:57):
You know, Easier said than done. I have days where
I struggle with it. I'll actually read some of the
nasty dms or comments and I'll let it get to me.
But it's a quick turnaround because then I call my
dad or my sister and or my brother, and I'm like,
guys and they're like they'll laugh at it, you know,
and they're like, don't think about it for even one
more second. I'm like, Okay, good, we're back. We're back
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in action.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
You feel like the most powerful thing you can do
in that moment is not give it life, not respond,
not acknowledge it.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
Yes, just like totally.
Speaker 3 (06:26):
Ignoring it and acting like it is the white noise
that it is is like the best way to go
about it, because the minute you engage in it, it
adds more fuel to the fire and it gives people
another reason to keep talking about it. And it's really
just it's blissful ignorance, if you will, Like I didn't
know what you're saying. I don't even care what you're saying.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
And I think it's good for even kids to hear that,
right because even when I grew up, right, you went
to school, you might get bolded whatever, but then you
went home and it was gone. Yes, now a social
media that falls them everywhere, and it's good for them
to hear that from you. But lean on your family, yeah,
lean on those around you. How important was it going
through a process like The Bachelor, which is an amazing process,
but there's a lot going on. How important was it
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to have such a strong family bond that you have.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
It was everything.
Speaker 3 (07:11):
I mean, even before I left, I had my family
and a couple of my friends write me letters because
I knew I wasn't going to be able to talk
to them, and I just wanted to be reminded of
like the people that I had waiting for me back
at home that like had my best interest in mind.
And I read those letters like every single day when
I was gone and then coming home like Monday nights.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
I couldn't have asked for, you know, a better.
Speaker 3 (07:34):
Setup with my girlfriends, and you know, sometimes the guys
came and just like the support because it's that is
what it is, you know. I was just so I
am so blessed to have that around me at all
times that I really paid attention to it throughout this
whole process.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
And your support was definitely strong, again from probably strangers
they don't know in the greater Boston area, yeah, but
also from your friend group and everybody went to LA
for the finale.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
I know, oh my gosh, I was.
Speaker 1 (08:01):
Lucky enough to be at the finale with you in LA.
But there's one point in my mind where Grant and
your dad are kind of jumping around on the dance floor. Yes,
when you got to see that, how did that feel? Oh?
Speaker 2 (08:11):
It was such a good feeling.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
You know.
Speaker 3 (08:14):
I knew after Hometowns that my family really liked Grant,
and I knew that Grant really felt comfortable.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
With my family.
Speaker 3 (08:22):
And to see just like that moment of oh my gosh,
we can be out in public together. We are having
a ball, like they are jumping up and down like crazy,
It was like, this is what it's about, you know,
as you finding your people, you finding your comfortability and
just being happy.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
And how are you guys doing now post Bachelor? How's
life feeling for you? Guys?
Speaker 3 (08:44):
It's feeling really good. You know, it's really exciting. There's
just so much travel. It's definitely a bit draining, I
will say in terms of, like, you know, my social battery.
You know, like me, I am one that likes to
sit on the couch at my sister's house with a
glass of wine and so like going out and you know,
being recognized is so amazing. And then it's also just like,
(09:05):
so it's straining my my social battery for sure. And
I know I can tell with him too, Like I
can tell when he's getting low on the social battery too,
and so then we kind of just need to like
balance each other out.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
But we do a really good job of that.
Speaker 1 (09:20):
It's kind of a busting and a curse, but I
think there's a lot of good from it, right, would
you say that? Like being able to be noticed, being
able to walk around and kind of there's a lot
I think the good outweighs about it, would you right?
Speaker 3 (09:30):
One hundred percent? Oh my gosh, it is like it's
such a whirlwind of something. I'm still trying to grasp
that people a know who I am, like strangers and
then be like care you know, And I think that
that is just so amazing. I feel so lucky to
have that opportunity because you know, I do really want
to do good with that eventually. It's just grappling my
(09:51):
head around all of it right now, and like one day,
you know, I want to have a community of people that,
you know, my sister and I trying to start with
the nice girl's label. It's like, you know, you can
do whatever you want in life, and you can be
from whatever walk of life, but as long as you
like are kind and you want to spread love, like
you can totally sit with us, Like, come on.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
Girl, it makes me bring it up, but you're Nana
as a quote, yeah, what is that exact quote? Again?
Speaker 2 (10:16):
It's nice to be nice and that's.
Speaker 1 (10:18):
Such an amazing thing. And it's like you guys really
live and breathe.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
Every day for sure. I mean it.
Speaker 3 (10:24):
I just feel like my Nanna. You know, she she
was She's the matriarch of our whole family. She created
this foundation where you know, my family might have different,
you know, different faiths. They kind of differ between Christianity
and Catholicism. You know. Some of us have different like
political beliefs, some of us have different jobs. And it's like,
(10:45):
no matter what your differences are in life, at the
center of your entire existence is family and love and
it is just nice to be nice and accept people
and love people and choose them like over and over.
And that's why my family and I are still so close.
You know, we're like kind of spread out a lot
across the United States, like it's a family in California, Colorado, Florida,
(11:07):
mass but it's like we talk all the time. We
are still so close, and it's because of her, and I.
Speaker 1 (11:12):
Think that's powerful to about your family, and we actually
won't get into it, but yeah, people could also look
at like you're at home and everything your family, but like,
like you guys have this like easy, go lucky, like
very simple family. Like yeah, you know, you guys have
been through it. Yeah, and you just got stronger through
the tough times. It's not like you guys are living
the white picket fence life and yeah, everybody's rich and
like money's fine around right now. You guys have been
(11:34):
through real stress and I think that's important that people understand that. Yeah. Also,
you talked about social media having a following people noticing you.
The other thing is really interesting to me is like,
of all my female friends, even your sister, you were
never one that I ever thought wanted a following or
wanted to be a TikToker or wanted to get brand deals.
How does it feel now that you automatically have this following?
(11:56):
Like is it a weird feeling?
Speaker 2 (11:57):
It's so crazy, you know.
Speaker 3 (11:59):
My even my friend would say to me, because I do,
I like to like put stories out on Instagram. I
love to like travel and kind of like showcase that
those fun parts of my life.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
But I never really thought I would be like.
Speaker 3 (12:12):
In like on the end game of like trying to
monopolize it or monetize it. And so now that I
like have that, it's like people DM me and they
want to know, like what I do on a daily basis,
or you know, what my skincare routine is, and I'm like, oh,
like I don't know. Yeah, that is literally what I've
been replying to people. They're like, what's your makeup routine?
(12:34):
I'm like reposting it onto my story. I tag Dominique.
I'm like, she knows everything, Like go to her like
to know it page whatever.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
And yeah, So it's it's hard.
Speaker 3 (12:43):
It's hard to like figure out how to at least,
you know, let people in through like the connection and
showing them my like life without feeling like, now it's
like a job, you know, because it's not. It wasn't
anything I ever really wanted.
Speaker 1 (12:58):
Two quick crazy stories and then we're gonna talk about Austin,
but okay, one was there was two moments when the
season almost got not blown but like revealed that you
had won, and I kind of felt like I was
in the center of both of them. But one of
them was not in New York's Tam at my house
talk about that and how that almost blew the season.
Speaker 2 (13:15):
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 3 (13:16):
So yeah, So we were making funny tiktoks at your
house and Grant was in New York for the ball
Drop and he, I think had a little bit too
much to drink and I DM him the video.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
I was like, look at this, like this is what
I'm doing.
Speaker 3 (13:33):
And he liked it, and then I didn't notice it.
And then I was like driving home and it was
like three am, and somebody texted me, why does Grant
like follow Mike e V? And I was like, oh god,
what is it. I was like, he needs media training immediately,
and I tried to call him but he was passed out.
(13:53):
And then the next morning he woke up and.
Speaker 2 (13:55):
Was like, I didn't I didn't follow him, Like He's like,
or maybe I did.
Speaker 3 (13:59):
Maybe I I thought that would make it better, and
I'm like that makes it so much worse.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
But it's funny. Is I woke up the next morning
being like, oh wow, Grant followed me. Like at first,
I was like that's pretty cool. Then I was like,
or is he like? Because I didn't know him at
this point, he like, who's this guy hanging out with
my girl? Ah, So at first I didn't know how
to interpret it. Now that I know him, I know
they definitely was not doing that, of course, but being
the outside, I was like, oh man, this guy's gonna
(14:23):
hate me now when we all become friends or something
like that.
Speaker 2 (14:26):
Oh my god. Yeah, that was a whirlwind.
Speaker 3 (14:27):
I mean we woke up to a bazillion text calls
and like people were congratulating me, and I was like,
oh my god, it's like.
Speaker 2 (14:36):
One thing, but people hold on to anything, you know.
Speaker 1 (14:39):
It was that, And then there was a moment I
think Reality Steve pointed out that you were at my
wife's bachelor party bachelor party, but you weren't at our wedding,
which is the same day when you got engaged to Grant. Yes,
talk about that, Lee, Because I didn't follow the whole
thing either.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
That was crazy to me.
Speaker 3 (14:53):
I mean, really, I get that people want to try
and maybe like blow the secret or whatever, but I
don't how Reality Steve has enough time to pay attention
to that, because when we were in Vegas for Kelsey's bachelorette,
like that was a really long time ago and it
was before you know, I even knew about that potentially
(15:13):
going on, and any think, so I'm like, how the
heck did he put all of these things together? And
then also he must be stalking you guys, because at
that point he's now like paying attention to your wedding timeline,
and so it felt so crazy to just be like,
you know, oh, like I was supposed to be at
that wedding. I even brought the bridesmaids dress and I
(15:35):
wore it on the show just in case you know
it is.
Speaker 1 (15:38):
It where that gives me a false sense of like
you were in the right place at the right time
with the right guy, because my wedding or our wedding
was in the dr two resorts over where you were
getting engaged at the same like the world can't bring
that together any better, I think.
Speaker 3 (15:51):
I for some reason, there were just like signs from
the minute my sister signed me up and I got
that call that like I knew that this, like my
non was kind of just like doing her thing up
there and like making things like happen for me. I
just know it because it is it's like a difference
between like right, right time, right place, but also just
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like kind of like having faith in the universe to
be like, whatever happens happens. And when you let that
like mindset kind of rule your life.
Speaker 2 (16:19):
You see things differently. And I'm like, there's just no
way like that.
Speaker 3 (16:23):
You guys were that close to me, but so far mentally,
you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (16:28):
It's almost like you guys are at our wedding and
we're at your engagement. So you guys are moving. He's
moving to Boston. How did that conversation go about him
moving here to Boston?
Speaker 3 (16:38):
Yeah, I mean, I think throughout the whole season, he
saw how much I talked about my family and how
important they were to me, And during overnights, you know,
I brought it up to him. I was like, listen,
if it is me at the end, like I want
you to know I will not be moving from my family.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
Oh so you were honest about that. You're not moving,
You're not leaving Boston no matter what.
Speaker 2 (16:57):
Yes, And he was just he was cool with it.
Speaker 3 (17:00):
You know, I know that he has his mom and
his grandfather, grandfather and some of his cousins in Houston
that he's really you know, he's really close with. So
I didn't want him to feel like he had to
make this like huge sacrifice for me. If he didn't
want to do that, I just knew that.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
Like I was really like, for sure not leaving my
family in Boston.
Speaker 1 (17:21):
And then so he is moving here. You guys are
going to start living your life here in Boston.
Speaker 2 (17:25):
Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 1 (17:26):
What's one thing I know? You guys went to Red
Doctor opening day? Yeah, went to the North End. How
are both those Boston experiences amazing?
Speaker 3 (17:32):
It was so just it's it's so fun to do
the things that I love to do now with him,
and he's like never been to.
Speaker 2 (17:38):
A Celtics game, He's never been to the North End.
Speaker 3 (17:40):
So getting to watch somebody experience my favorite things for
the first time is in so fun.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
Is there anything in Boston that you have not experience
yet or your excited experience the first time with Grant?
Speaker 2 (17:53):
And if yeah, I don't know that there is. I
mean I really would love to go, like to.
Speaker 3 (18:00):
A Bruins game. Honestly, I think that that would be
really sick. I went to Game seven with my dad though,
like years ago, and it was so fun. But that
was the first time I ever did it, and I
was like, oh, I want to go like to these
games more often.
Speaker 1 (18:12):
Yeah, that'd be super cool. Yeah. Such a good sports town, yes,
or city to be in. So that's cool for going
to be there. Yeah. You keep talking about family wunder
the game or your dad. Yeah, one that I definitely
want to ask because I was talked about a lot. Yeah,
grant sister didn't seem happy at certain moments of the finale.
Have you guys talked that out? Oh?
Speaker 2 (18:30):
Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 3 (18:31):
I think, like truly, I think RBF is like a full,
a full thing. I think sometimes I have it. I
think that Taylor is like the funniest, kindest person ever.
I think that that finale was hard for you know, her,
Grant's family. I think that, you know, my mom got
up and walked out during uncomfortable moments, and I think
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it's just like, you know, when we finally got to
the STK after party, like that is where we were like, okay,
let's breathe, let's have fun.
Speaker 1 (19:02):
You know.
Speaker 3 (19:02):
It's just such high intensity that it is what it is.
But people read into anything.
Speaker 1 (19:07):
You know, but the families are meshing well together.
Speaker 2 (19:09):
Super well awesome.
Speaker 1 (19:11):
Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:12):
The other crazy thing about the show and it kind
of is what you signed up for right where we
live in, but your most private moment of your life
other people can talk about. Yeah, does that give you
empathy for like a mega celebrity like Justin Bieber who's
privacy has been stolen from his entire life?
Speaker 3 (19:28):
Oh my gosh, Yeah, it's crazy because you know, I
do feel like really strongly that everyone like there's a
level of privacy that I just feel like everybody, by
nature as humans like should have. And you know, once
you step into reality TV or you know, becoming a
celebrity from a really young age, like that level is
(19:51):
just like blurred a bit in the line. Because you
want to let people in to connect and relate, have
people be able to relate to you, but like you
also have to be able to protect your peace of mind.
And like somebody like Justin Bieber or even like Ariana Grande,
it's like they have no ability to really protect their
peace of mind other than ignoring what people are saying, right,
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And so it takes a lot of mental strength and
having people, you know, talk about moments that I would
have thought would have remained.
Speaker 2 (20:21):
Private, you know, by a certain degree.
Speaker 3 (20:24):
You know, it's hurtful to me so I can't imagine
like the adjustment that was for Justin Bieber growing up
and just having to constantly have everything he did be
dissected and somebody has an opinion on it.
Speaker 2 (20:38):
It's crazy.
Speaker 3 (20:38):
I feel sad, but I also like, wow, they're really strong.
Speaker 1 (20:43):
And to make you understand when they do out like
act out or do something crazy, it's like, what do
you want this person to do?
Speaker 3 (20:48):
I know right, like to a certain degree, people are,
you know, like they have enough strength to just ignore it.
But there's going to be a time when somebody's just
like I've had enough, Like I am done with this.
And I know Grant and I talk about that all
the time. We're like, oh, we're like so over this comment.
Let's just respond. And then it's like, okay, calm down,
(21:08):
let's breathe, let it go. But when that happens, like
to celebrities every day, every move, I get it.
Speaker 2 (21:16):
I get it.
Speaker 1 (21:17):
Yeah, what keeps saying one more thing, one last thing?
And I mean, actually cut this out if you don't
want to talk about it. But you brought her up
Ariana Grande DMed you.
Speaker 3 (21:26):
Yes, Oh my gosh, she did. Her and her mom
they're like the kindest ever. They just wanted to show
their support. And you know, I think that that was
like truly a fever dream for me because I've been
an Ariana Grande fan since like forever, and you know,
I went through a phase where I had my hair
like half a half down, like yeah, and I was like,
(21:49):
I want to be Ariana, and yeah, I think it's
so cool and so like kind of weird too in
a sense to feel like real celebrities like know who
you are? You like they said my name out loud
at one point probably or they like watched me on
TV and like saw my face. You know, it's such
a weird, crazy, cool fun thing.
Speaker 1 (22:12):
Like arian her mom were sitting at dinner talking.
Speaker 2 (22:13):
About you, like yeah, oh my god, probably.
Speaker 1 (22:16):
What did they say? What did the mom or underground
DM you.
Speaker 3 (22:19):
Her mom responded to one of my stories of Grant
and I and said, you know, I'm so like congratulations,
like sending you, you know, so much happiness and are
sending you so much like love, And Ariana Grande was like,
you know, the same thing. She was like congratulations like
angel like with a bunch of exclamation marks, and was
like this is so cool. And then I was like,
(22:41):
oh my god, this is so cool, and yeah it was.
It was really sweet. I hope that you know, I
appreciate the support, especially from somebody that I've admired my
whole life, and it just kind of validates the fact that,
you know, no matter what the craziness of the world
is going going on, and even though you know, I
(23:01):
don't know Ariana Grande, it's like to feel like I'm
that she resonated with me or supports me in whatever capacity.
Like that's so cool, and I can walk away being
like listen, Ariana Grande at one point said my name,
I can die happy.
Speaker 1 (23:15):
Yeah. And it could even be the point that she's
been her privacy has been stolen a lot of her life, right,
and she's like, Hey, this girl's going to go through
something that's kind of tough. Yeah, and like maybe I
need to give her some love and show her some support.
Speaker 2 (23:26):
Totally.
Speaker 1 (23:27):
So I feel like we have to end on our
in a Grande. Yeah, thank you so much again, Juliana.
The first ever, which actually Bally Cossa taught me that
the first ever Bachelor winner from Boston appreciate hag O kis.
Speaker 2 (23:39):
Yeah, thanks for having Mike vie
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