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December 12, 2024 • 16 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Yeah, either Detroit Wheels.

Speaker 2 (00:02):
Hey, a's Traili calling Ace.

Speaker 3 (00:05):
How the heck are you, buddy? It's Doug Podell from
Detroit Wheels.

Speaker 2 (00:08):
Are you doing long time? They'll talk to.

Speaker 1 (00:11):
Yeah, it's better.

Speaker 3 (00:12):
Well we talked last year when you came in for
the Token Lounge show. We did that show with you
out there and uh turned out to Yeah, that turned
out to be a big night. And it looks like
you got a couple of big shows coming up here
in Michigan this year.

Speaker 1 (00:27):
But I want to talk to you about the one
at Soaring Eagle.

Speaker 3 (00:31):
You got Steven Piercy opening up on December the twenty ninth.

Speaker 2 (00:36):
Yeah, he's a good friend and he's got a great
band and he's still doing it, just like May God bless.

Speaker 1 (00:42):
Him, God bless you. Ace.

Speaker 3 (00:44):
I mean you're working pretty hard. I mean you've you know,
you've been consistent.

Speaker 1 (00:49):
Ace.

Speaker 3 (00:49):
I got to give you credit. You're putting an album
out every year. You're out there touring a little bit,
you know at the end of the season, I mean
you really you almost tripled the amount of dates you're
doing this year.

Speaker 1 (01:01):
How come? How come you got so many this time?

Speaker 2 (01:04):
Well, you know, I've been working out, I lost weight
and I have more energy. So I told my agent
to you know, book me more shows, and it's working
out great. You know, me and Steven both have the
same agent, you know, Sullivan Biggs, and he's based out
of a Palm Springs wonderful guy. And you know I

(01:29):
do shows with Steven and a lot of the other
groups that he handles, and it's working out great.

Speaker 1 (01:37):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:37):
Well, you know, Ace, I had read earlier this year.
I think it was during the summer where you said
that your sobriety and your health were better than ever before,
that you felt healthier than ever before. And there you
are talking about losing weight. So you know, what have
you been doing, like working out and eating properly?

Speaker 2 (01:59):
Way Yet for a while I was lifting weights and
then I realized that was a little bit much for me.
So I do more calisthetics and I you know, I
do the rubber bands, I do stretches, I do sometimes
I do very you know, like just five pounds, but
high reps. I do war push ups, four push ups

(02:22):
as many as I can handle. You know, I do
leg raises. It's you know, you know what I realized,
I don't want to you know, It's tough to bring
weights on the road because they weigh down the suitcase
and then you get up you end up getting charge
extra for you know, your suitcase big overway, you can't

(02:46):
bring weights on the road. But you know I have
those rubber band things. Yeah, and you know calisthatics. You know,
I do leg raises, you know, war push ups. I
don't know if you've ever done those, but they're great.

Speaker 1 (02:57):
I know I haven't.

Speaker 3 (02:59):
But you know what, you know, the way you're sounding
and the way I'm thinking, I just might have to
take you up on some of this. You know, maybe
ASU should do like one of those workout videos, you know,
like they used to do in the eighties.

Speaker 1 (03:14):
Yay, hey, there'd be that, let me tell you.

Speaker 2 (03:18):
Yeah, man, James Vonder, right, that would be a riot.
So maybe I'll just do a couple of silly things
and put them on Facebook, uh, you know Instagram. I
wouldn't charge that exactly, you know, I wouldn't charge anybody
for that. But you know, it's just you know, normal

(03:40):
simple stuff that you can do in your hotel room
when you have downtime, you know, to keep yourself lubricated
and healthy, and you know, obviously. You know, I haven't
had a drink in eighteen years, and it's really helped
my ou Yeah, because my doctor told me the last
five years, my blood workers got progressively better, which is

(04:02):
kind of crazy for a guy in his early seventies
because usually, you know, if you're lucky if it stays
the same, but if your blood work is getting better
as you get older, you know, I don't know. I mean,
I was abducted by aliens in the eighties, so maybe
they maybe, maybe they'll be a little shot.

Speaker 1 (04:23):
So well, you never know, Ace, You just never know.
With Ace Frayley, you're one day at a time. Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (04:31):
Earlier this year you put out the ten thousand Volts
album and it did fantastic. It did excellent all across
the country, all across the world. And like I said earlier,
you know, I compliment you on getting into that studio
and continuing to pump out new music and you know,
satisfy the fans, because whether the industry believes it or not,

(04:54):
we still are interested in our artists, in our new music.
So are you working on anything right now, Ace for
twenty twenty five?

Speaker 2 (05:04):
Yeah, yeah, Doug, I'm starting to compile songs for my
next record, which is going to be Origins Volume three. No,
you know, I don't know if you've listened to one
and two, you know, But basically, I do remakes of
songs like bands that influenced me when I was a teenager,

(05:24):
growing up and in my early twenties. So you know,
it's fun to do those records because you don't have
to write the music, and it's you know, you can
do them faster because pretty much all I have to
do is asify them.

Speaker 1 (05:39):
And that's exactly what you do. You make them sound
like your own songs. You do asify them. I love
that term right there.

Speaker 2 (05:46):
Yeah, my friend came up with that. He goes, boy,
you asified this one. I said, yeah, that's a good one.
I'm going to remember that, and it's kind of, you know,
been synonymous with me and the R in the series.
But I'm really excited about doing the next one because
I've done two already and they've been received very well,

(06:07):
and I'm sure this third one is going to be
just as good.

Speaker 1 (06:10):
Yes's not better. Always good songs. You pick out good songs.

Speaker 3 (06:13):
Can you tell us one that you know is going
to be You're looking at for this third.

Speaker 2 (06:18):
One, I'm not giving away anything at this juncher. This
Soon after the New Year, I might start giving away
some of the songs, but at this point, I really
don't want to make a commitment and then disappoint somebody
by not doing the song. Well, I'm looking at songs
by the Who, the Cream, Jimmy Hendrix, LEDs Echelin, They,

(06:41):
you know, all all my bands, all my favorite bands,
the guys that influenced me, Jeff Beck and Jimmy Page's
huge influence on me, you know. And Jeff has played
not only with Cream, but he had Blind Faith, he
had de Laney and Bonnie, then he had you know,
his last band was pretty much just the Eeric Clapton band,

(07:04):
you know, like I'm doing the Ace Fairy bands.

Speaker 1 (07:06):
Yep.

Speaker 2 (07:06):
And you know, it's it's just a matter of, you know,
whether or not you want to keep going to whether
you want to retire. And I've decided and made the
commitment to me and my family that I'm going to
continue doing it until the wheels four Walls.

Speaker 3 (07:22):
No. I love that, and we love it too as
fans to trust me, as people out there want to
see you. And these shows sell out almost instantly, especially
during the holidays, and and now, like you said, you've
you've even doubled up on as many shows as you're doing,
so you're working, you know.

Speaker 2 (07:39):
I I got I got a great backup band, Doug, Yeah,
I got right. I got right Cook on bass, I
got uh Scottie Coogan on drums, and I got Jeremy
Astbrock on the second guitar. And vocals, and everybody sings leads,
you know, just like Kiss. Did you know we have
four lead singers, And I got four lead singers in

(08:01):
my band, you know, so sometimes if my voice is
not what it should be or it gets a little
recipe halfway through the show, one of the other guys
can take over the vocals, you follow me.

Speaker 1 (08:11):
I love that. Yeah, it's perfect.

Speaker 2 (08:13):
Yeah, I mean, you know, I feel bad for these
bands that come out and just the lead singer. Maybe
one of the guys sings, you know, and it's a
lot more work for the lead singer, you know, because
you're talking about singing twelve, fourteen, fifteen songs a night,
you know. But I get a break. I sing three songs,

(08:35):
and I want some of one of the other guys
sing a song. Then I do three or four, let
another guy sing one of the songs, so I get
a break, and that's how I can keep going.

Speaker 3 (08:45):
Yeah, like I said, I saw the show last year,
and you know, I was surprised at just how jam
packed it was. But yeah, I thought the uh, I thought,
the go around of the different guys singing the different songs,
I'll kind of fit in nicely. And then you know,
you come in with your aceified songs and they sound fantastic.

Speaker 2 (09:06):
Hey, are you very much? Are you?

Speaker 3 (09:08):
Are you surprised a little bit that your former partners
really haven't attempted to do anything. I mean, I guess
Jeane said that he's gonna set some concert dates for
twenty twenty five.

Speaker 1 (09:20):
He's got like maybe four or five dates.

Speaker 2 (09:23):
Jane has been doing some shows. He put together a band.
As far as I know, I don't I'm not sure
if Paul is doing any shows. I think he might
be going back to his painting and maybe focusing more
on his family, you know, because he's got younger kids
that I don't have. All my kids, you know, Monique's
forty four years old.

Speaker 1 (09:43):
Jesus Christ, well, you know you raised them.

Speaker 3 (09:48):
Well, you know what I mean who Yeah, yeah, you
raised them well so and he did it in a
timely basis too, So there you go go ahead.

Speaker 2 (09:56):
The only thing I regret about my daughter is that
I wasn't always there for her because I was on
the road so much. But other than that, you know,
we have a fantastic relationship. In fact, I was just
downstairs with her. You know, we're putting together Christmas decorations
and we're actually putting up our tree tonight. So I'm
really excited about that because that always, you know, brings

(10:18):
you that Christmas spirit. And then we put on the
burning log and Christmas music on the A two winch
TV and and then light a fire in the fireplace.

Speaker 3 (10:28):
So do you have a favorite Christmas movie that you watch? Oh?

Speaker 2 (10:34):
I love if It's a Wonderful Life with Jimmy Stewart.
I mean, you can't you can't beat that movie.

Speaker 1 (10:40):
Now, that's a classic, right there, no question about it.

Speaker 2 (10:43):
And you know, and they colorized it. And I love
Donna Reed because I remember when I was a kid,
I used to watch the Donna Reed show. You know,
she's a doll, living doll.

Speaker 1 (10:55):
That's awesome.

Speaker 3 (10:56):
So the last time we talked, as you were I
think you were putting a studio in your house.

Speaker 1 (11:02):
You were putting a new one in there.

Speaker 2 (11:04):
Oh, that's been finished for over a year. That's where
I tracked most of the music for my last record.

Speaker 3 (11:10):
Okay, So, have have you ever thought ace of putting
your stamp on a young band and maybe producing their record?

Speaker 1 (11:17):
Or maybe I missed it that you've done one or two.

Speaker 2 (11:21):
Yeah, but you know, it's just a matter of finding
the time, you know, between touring and recording. You know,
I do autograph signings from time to time. I'm actually
doing one in Vegas in January, I believe, and you know,
when I when I start slowing down with my touring
and recording schedule, I'd love to produce some of the

(11:43):
younger bands and share the information, you know, that I've
learned from working with such great producers Eddie Kramer and
Bob Ezron.

Speaker 1 (11:52):
Yeah, yeah, definitely.

Speaker 3 (11:53):
I mean, I got a feeling there's a band out
there that could use your expertise and at the same
same time you could use maybe you know, their energy,
their inspiration to to put something new out that that
both of you would be proud, you know, to have.

Speaker 2 (12:11):
So it's something I'd love to do, you know, and
I have so much information that I've learned from working
with some of you know, Vinnie Ponzia, another great record producer,
and you know, there's so much I've learned, and people
don't realize how important it is. H you know, mic
placement in front of an amp. You know, people just say,

(12:32):
stick a mic in front of the amp. No, it's
the angle, the way you do it, and the way
you put it, you know, in relationship to where the
speaker is in the cabinet, and you know, compressors and
limitters and then you know you got your digital reverbs
and all that stuff. You know, it was so important.
And you know, if you know what you're doing, great,

(12:53):
If you don't, it doesn't always come out the way
you want it to.

Speaker 3 (12:56):
Get out of the way, Well, it sounds to me
like you've got it down. You just got to find
the right band. So maybe we'll find one here in
Detroit and I'll send him your way. You know, Detroit
rock City still has some pretty good local bands.

Speaker 2 (13:12):
Oh yeah, and we'll be doing that song and my
bass player Ryan cook sings that one. He does a
great job on that vocally.

Speaker 3 (13:23):
Maybe we can get your buddy here in Detroit, Jason
Hartless sor you know, his son is the drummer for
Ted Nugent. You guys are buddies. You've done a lot
of stuff together.

Speaker 2 (13:33):
I was just on the phone with I was just
on the phone with him a couple of days ago.
He was he was looking for an amplifire head to
finish you off a studio that you know he's built.
You know, he works there with Ted Nugent and his
yes because his son plays drums in Ted's band and
Ted some Detroit we all know, you know. And Ted's

(13:55):
a good friend of mine. I've known Ted forever. And
I found an all head that I used on the
Reunion tour and I sold to him and gave it,
gave it away from half price, and you know, and
he told me Ted was coming over and he was
going to play at it. I said, well, I hope
he likes the sound. You know, I used to love

(14:15):
it when I, you know, was performing on the Reunion
tour with it. And uh, you know, life goes on.
You know, he's a good friend of mine. You know,
he left on a couple of times. A couple of
years ago, I was in Detroit. He set me up
with the rooms at d MGM because he likes to
gamble there and I like the gambles. But we were

(14:36):
gambling together, and you know, we had a lot of fun.

Speaker 1 (14:41):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (14:42):
I think he was telling me that he was going
to try and weasel that amp body, and so I
guess he got it.

Speaker 1 (14:47):
That's great.

Speaker 3 (14:48):
He also, I guess he's working with Ted Nugent and
they put together something called the Vault. Now, I would
imagine Ace that you know, Ted's got a lot of
stuff in the can in the vault. I would imagine
that you probably have a lot of stuff in the
vault maybe that at some point, you know, might be
able to come out.

Speaker 1 (15:07):
So I don't know, maybe you guys want to talk
about that.

Speaker 2 (15:10):
I have about I have about one hundred and fifty
to two hundred reels of two inch tape from my
studio in Wilton, Connecticut that I haven't listened to in
god knows twenty twenty five years, so that there's stuff
on there that nobody's heard, jam sessions, you know, with

(15:31):
other celebrities, And that's the project I'm going to do.
You know, once things slowed down a little because you know,
it's a tedious process because old tapes have to be baked.
Yeah yeah, and they have to be baked and you
get one good play out of them and then you
transfer it to the computer hard drives and then you

(15:51):
have it for posterity.

Speaker 3 (15:54):
Well, a lot of great news out of this conversation. One,
you're feeling good, you've lost some weight, you're adding more
shows to the tour, and you're working on new music.
I mean, it's a very positive phone call there, Ace Rayley.
So we're excited to have you here on the twenty
ninth out at Soaring Eagle and the other dates coming up.

(16:14):
So looking forward to seeing you Ace for the holidays.
There's nothing better than Ace Rayley right during Christmas and
New Years. I mean, it's the best, especially in Detroit
rock City.

Speaker 2 (16:27):
Oh thank you, Doug. That's a really sweet sentiment. I
just want to say, Merry Christmas, Happy New Year's all,
my friends, God blessed. I hope everybody has a great Christmas,
and I'll be seeing everybody right after Christmas.

Speaker 3 (16:41):
All right, we'll see we'll see you here in the
Motor City, Ace, And thanks for your time and thanks
for rocking Detroit.

Speaker 2 (16:49):
My pleasure good talking to you dog. I have a
great day, all right, buddy, you too, Thank you all right,
bye bye
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