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Speaker 1 (00:00):
All right, So joining me on the line here this afternoon,
we've got Gary Graff, the Rock and Roll insider and author,
along with photographer extraordinaire Thomas Weschler.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
Hi, you guys, how you.
Speaker 3 (00:12):
Doing just fine?
Speaker 2 (00:15):
All right?
Speaker 1 (00:15):
Well, congratulations, we have mastered the technology of putting us
all together, so I love that. Well, let me start
out by big congratulations you guys on the Traveling Man
on the Road and behind the scenes with Bob Seeger,
the exhibit that was happening at the Historical Museum in Detroit,
(00:37):
and now it's coming to an end, but we've got
something special planned, correct, Yes.
Speaker 3 (00:42):
Sir, it's coming to an end on the IDEs of
March next Saturday, where they are going to use an
auction to auction off all of the sixteen x twenty
photographs framed photographs. There are thirty six of them, and
they're going to auction that off. Now, some of the
(01:03):
proceeds are going to go to the to the Historical
Museum and the Detroit Historical Society, and some of the
proceeds are going to go to me because they're my photographs.
So it'll be it'll be really a cool gig, all right.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
Well, Thomas, Tell me when did when did this exhibit begin?
How long has it been?
Speaker 3 (01:23):
Said? It started one year ago on the fifteenth of March.
The museum called Alex, my manager, and they had asked
if we would be interested in having a kind of
a Bob Seger Day show, and they wanted to use
a bunch of my pictures from my book to display.
(01:45):
So we said sure, yeah, let's do it. And we
did it. And I gave them their choice of the
photos in the book and they picked out thirty six
of them. I sent them all Highris images and they
printed them, they framed them, and they displayed them. And
it looks great. It displays like gives me a chill
(02:06):
when I walk in there. I can't believe I did
all that.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
No, it does.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
It absolutely looked beautiful in the uh, in the photographs
that I've seen now. Now Gary Graff is with us
as well, and Gary collaborated on.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
That book with you, the Traveling Man Book. Uh.
Speaker 3 (02:22):
It was his idea.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
Gary. How much input did did you have in the display?
Speaker 4 (02:29):
In the display? None? This is really and well deserved.
This is Tom's show. It really is. It really is
an emphasis on the photography and the craft of Tom's
photography as well as some of his some of his artifacts,
you know, like his camera case and things like that.
So I got to be part of it. We opened it.
(02:51):
I can't believe it's been a year, but we did it.
We did an opening talk, you know for that, you know,
when the exhibit first started, and and you know, now
it's going to be nice to to actually bring it,
to bring it to a close. Kind of sad because
it's the quality of it. You know, it feels like
it should be a permanent exhibit in a way. But
(03:11):
but these things, you know, these things come and go,
and it's not like the photos aren't there. I know,
you know, Tom through his websites and and galleries, you know,
these photos are all are still available to people to
have for their homes as well as well as just
to look at them in the book.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
Yeah, I was going to say I thought the same
thing myself, guys, that it could be a permanent display
down there. I mean, who better than to uh you know,
represent Detroit Rock and Bob Seeger on display at the
Historical Museum.
Speaker 3 (03:48):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
Now, maybe they're planning on, you know, maybe doing something else.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
Maybe the MC five is coming up next on that. Sure,
if they're if they're interested in going in that direction.
But what about you guys?
Speaker 1 (03:59):
Now, I would Amain Thomas that you've got photos upon
photos of Detroit rock artists.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
I know you were very close to Bob Seeer.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
But have you guys talked about possibly collaborating on another book,
like say the MC five.
Speaker 3 (04:16):
Well maybe not, Well maybe I don't know about dot.
I'll tell you how we started the Tamina Man book
was we were going to collaborate on all of my
rock photos which were on display back in nineteen or
in two thousand and two. And Gary came to the
display and we looked around. We'd been friends for quite
(04:36):
a while, and I said, well, what did you think
of the captions I put under it? Because they need work.
Let's talk. And so we went over. We went over
to my house and I've shown him a whole bunch
of pictures on my computer. I'd keep on going through them.
Every time one came up with Bob Seger, I'd tell
him something for five minutes about it. After about six
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or seven of those, he said, hold it, let's do
a book on Bob Seeker. We're considered the rest of
it for later, and I went, oh yeah, okay, guys
sold fifty million records, there weren't any books out on them.
Let's give it a shot. And Gary hooked it up
with Wayne State University Press and we did it. Uh.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
You know, when you put a couple of great people together,
good things come out of it, that's for sure. Now, Gary,
apparently at the end of this run here on Saturday,
you're putting one of your famous panels together for a
bit of a chat.
Speaker 4 (05:31):
Yeah. We've got Tom doing interpretive dance. It's it's really
going to be something special. No what we what we're doing,
you know. For the for the opening, I was just
Tom and I talking about the book and about the photos,
which is always fun. But you don't want to repeat
what you what you what you already did. So we've
assembled a panel of radio people and we're going to
(05:54):
talk about But Bob Seeker's important to Detroit radios because
that relationship is unlike any anything in any other market.
You know, by as you said, Bob Seger is so
synonymous with Detroit and Detroit rock and his as you
well know, Doug, for your not too many years here,
you're still a young guy. But for for you know,
(06:17):
with with your great experience in the market, you know,
you know what that relationship is, and the whenever something
new comes out from Seger, the clamor to be playing it.
Whenever he would play shows, the clamor to have tickets
and interviews and to be talking about the shows. So
I thought we'd get some you know, some of the
(06:38):
radio folks together to talk about that relationship, and Thomas
will be talking about it, you know, on the panel too,
because he had a front row seat for kind of
how that was done, and I have no doubt drove
over to some of the radio stations to help make
some of that happen. So I think from a Detroit
rock and roll historical perspective, it's going to be a
(07:00):
really fascinating conversation.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
Yeah, you've got a nice panel.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
They've all had their different eras of Bob Sieger music.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
And and radio experiences.
Speaker 1 (07:11):
Uh So, Steve Costan certainly will well remember just about
every single thing, no doubt about it. Thank uh but
you know Scream and Scott as well coming up as
one of the younger guys, and Mark Pasman he was
a program director of w r IF. So yeah, no
question you've got a nice panel. I'm sorry that I
(07:32):
had to turn you down. I wish I could have
been there.
Speaker 4 (07:35):
But I was coming I was coming up with my
snarky comment about that. But basically, we're finding people who
don't feel like they have to go party down river
for Saint Patrick's Day.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
Yeah, well tell my sales staff that. But you know,
you know how that works.
Speaker 1 (07:55):
But I wish I could have been there because it
is going to be and and certainly is a piece
of Detroit rock history. You know, you just can't wash
this away after Saturday. I mean, this is an important
slice of the pie, no question about it. Bob Seeger,
the photographs, Gary, your interpretation of.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
All of this.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
This is like I said, something that I think should
be in there permanently. But if it isn't, then let's
buy some of it.
Speaker 4 (08:25):
Oh and I was going to say, or you know
it does. This isn't necessary. This doesn't necessarily have to
be the the only and last time this is this
is displayed. And here I am stepping into Tom's purview,
But I've got to think there are other places in
the metro area or around the state where he this
story could could be told and then that would welcome it.
Speaker 3 (08:48):
Well. Yeah, and out of one hundred and sixty seven
pictures in the book Gary that you and I had,
thirty six of them are on display. There could be
thirty six more.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
Well, I was just going to say, Thomas Edos comes
to mind, uh for a place that you could you know,
he would take down all the other art and put
up just your art. And uh, that has been you know,
a bit of a mecca for artists in Detroit to
go to and to sell their their artistry. So, uh
(09:23):
that that's just just off the top of my head.
That's a place that could be available. But the pieces
are absolutely beautiful, and I wanted to ask about one.
And that's the uh, the the gold record that's back there.
Speaker 3 (09:37):
Oh, that's that was given to me by Capitol Records
because I did I did the album cover for a
Live Bullet and I was presented the gold record by
Capitol Records. I believe it was Craig Lambert that gave
it to me. And it was a thrill. I mean,
(09:59):
gold record. I never even played on a record, you know,
and I thought that was just great. Yeah, I put
that in the display. I wanted to make sure people
were aware of that.
Speaker 4 (10:09):
I'm going to interrupt here just to say there is
a great story about the design of that cover that
if we have time, you should have ton tell here.
Speaker 1 (10:17):
Oh, well, we certainly have time, so yeah, let's let's
let's hear it, because I mean, that's a pretty historic cover,
if I don't mind saying so myself.
Speaker 3 (10:28):
Well, we we had a meeting with all the band
members and at Punch's house on the a couple of
weeks before we had to have the cover design out
to California, and all the band members came and I
brought all my slides, and I asked for slides from
(10:49):
all over the country of photographers to send them into us.
And we looked at him on the Punches refrigerator. It's white,
so we purta him all there, and Chris Campbell picked
out the one he liked, and Drew said, oh like
that one, and you know, so on and so forth,
and everybody was happy with the choices until the cover itself,
(11:13):
and I kept on showing pictures and everybody left. They
were gone by the time they picked out that the
ones they wanted. Punch was already upstairs and it was
just buzzy and he's Buzzy Van Houghton. I was one
of our good friends. He and I were the two
last two left. And I showed Robbie Markle with his
(11:33):
photo on the refrigerator and I said, oh man, that's
got to be the cover. Oh Seeger, you know how
he's got his arm up and he's moving around and
his hair going out in the back like it was
perfect for the cover. So I took a magic marker
and I said, here we go. This is where we're
going to put the logo, here's where the album title goes.
(11:54):
And then we turned the lights on and there's this
black and white magic marker on Punch's refrigerator. Buzzy looks
at me and he goes, I don't think that stuff
comes off all right, So we better get out of
here before Punch comes down the stairs. So that's how
that That exactly how that happened.
Speaker 1 (12:16):
Wow, all right, Well, I'm sure he was able to
afford a new refrigerator, but maybe.
Speaker 3 (12:24):
There was some kind of stuff to get it off.
Speaker 1 (12:28):
So when do these when do these photographs go up
on the auction block? And Gary, how can people access him?
Do you have to be there? Can you go on
a link.
Speaker 4 (12:39):
What's the story, Tom, I'll let you answer that one, because.
Speaker 3 (12:42):
They're going to be going online with a silent auction
on Friday, okay, this coming Friday, and then on the fifteenth,
they'll be auctioned off there along with whatever has been
auctioned off on over the first day on Friday. And
(13:03):
I'm not sure exactly how they're going to set it up,
but I know that it will be completed by Saturday
at nine o'clock. That's when it's over. Between six and
nine is when the event comes up with all the
gathering of people, and I hope there's a lot of
people who I think there will be. I've been getting
(13:23):
notes from people all week say yeah, I will be there, man,
I'll be so I'm happy about that. But as far
as the actual pieces, I was down there on Monday.
A film crew was filming me talking about the photos
and all that inside that display, and I talked for
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two and a half hours and they filmed me talking
about every photo in there and all kinds of stuff,
and about Bob and about my time on the road
with him and everything. And it came up that this
display is going to be coming down and the camera.
Guys are going, well why, and I said, well, because
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they're going to auction off the photos and there their
sentiment was quite about the Santa Is yours that you know, hey,
it should still be up somewhere, and that's when I
came in with the idea of, well, there's way more
pictures in my book than just these, so maybe we
can do something else. But at the same time, it's
going to be from six until nine on Saturday, and
(14:31):
I believe it starts at six o'clock on Friday online.
That's that's all they told me. I don't really know
all the details to that, because that's up to the museum.
They're the ones getting the uh you know, they're they're
getting the lion's share of the proceeds because they paid
for all the prints and all the frames, and I'm
(14:51):
going to get some of it too so I can
stay on the road.
Speaker 1 (14:55):
So if people go to the Detroit Historical Museum website,
they're probably probably going to find the icon information and
a link there.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
I think I'll check.
Speaker 3 (15:05):
Oh, yes they will. They sent me a big thing
there today. I'll send it to you guys. It's a
a rather lengthy post and it's it's pretty nice. It's
got the whole setup on it.
Speaker 1 (15:19):
And then Gary, you're going to have your panel and
that's going to be that'll be.
Speaker 4 (15:24):
Right at the start of the right at the start
of the evening.
Speaker 3 (15:26):
Okay, we we started, my manager and his assistant started
a go Fundme page for our movie. We want to
make a film about Traveling Man, about the book and
about the making thereof, and we want to do a documentary,
(15:48):
so we're trying to do that too. At the same time,
I'd like to I'd like to perpetuate Seeger for as
long as I can, because he was very good to me,
and he's been very good to Detroit.
Speaker 1 (16:02):
Absolutely and uh, you know, tip of the cap to
Alex Green, to your manager for helping out with all
of this. And I'm going to go to his page
and share that as well, so people can, you know,
check out the GoFundMe page and maybe other people will
share it. Yeah, that would be a fun I mean, listen,
these documentaries today are getting bigger and bigger, and they're
(16:24):
landing in Imax theaters. So you know, when they even
started the led Zeppelin one, nobody thought it was going
to be this big and look at what's happening.
Speaker 2 (16:33):
So, uh, you know, Bob Seeker could have the same effect.
Speaker 3 (16:37):
Yeah, yeah, I trust Alex with his his his filmmaking abilities.
He's got fourteen Emmys and three Tonys sorry awards, so
he knows what he's doing.
Speaker 1 (16:50):
So it's just the photographs, I mean, are these cases
and uh records and all that everything.
Speaker 3 (16:56):
They're going to Well, I'm not going to auction off
unless somebody wants to give me a lot of money
for my goal record. I don't want to part with that.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
Really. Well, I'm that's I mean, I'm checking.
Speaker 3 (17:10):
My camera case is priceless. It got it's got stickers
from Wheels, Riffs, ABX, all the stations in Detroit, all
the stations in Michigan, all the stations in Chicago, Cleveland, Cincinnati,
wherever I went. I put stickers on from the stations
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and backstage passes. That thing is loaded.
Speaker 1 (17:36):
I'm okay with the stickers. But yeah, that's beautiful platinum album,
you know, gold record.
Speaker 2 (17:41):
You don't see those anymore. So I'll let you keep.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
It for a while, Thomas, But if you do decide
to sell it, you can always call me. But listen, guys,
thank you so much for the time, but more importantly,
thank you for this project.
Speaker 2 (17:57):
Thank you for putting that book out.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
It's been a while now, but it's still reaping all
kinds of benefits for everybody in Detroit, in including the
fans of Bob Seger.
Speaker 2 (18:08):
And I think this is just a fantastic project.
Speaker 1 (18:11):
And I hope that maybe while you're there you can
negotiate another thirty six different photos up there, or maybe
a different Detroit artist.
Speaker 2 (18:22):
But you guys are fantastic.
Speaker 3 (18:24):
Let me tell you one more thing, Doug about the book.
I only found this out last week. Wayne State Publishing
is issuing a new book, a brand new Bob Seger
traveling Man book. They're redoing the paperback and they're putting
a different cover on it, but it's going to be
the same book, just so you know. Okay, I didn't
(18:47):
know that.
Speaker 2 (18:49):
To speak.
Speaker 3 (18:50):
Yeah, yeah, well yeah, this will be the second Persson
so that's good.
Speaker 1 (18:55):
Well, yeah, people should seek it out and pick it
up because it is a fantastic book and it's timeless.
Speaker 2 (19:01):
Well, Gary, any final thoughts on the uh on the panel?
Speaker 4 (19:04):
Yeah, well, you know again, I think it was a
nice night when we started it a year ago, and
I think it'll be a nice night to close it here.
You know, I think people come to see this exhibit
and to take part in these events because of what
Seeger means to them, and what the music means, and
just in general, what getting the Detroit rock community together
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for an evening means to people. That's whether it's about
the MC five or it's tales from the D series
like the Historical Museum has started. You know, when you
do get the music fan community of Detroit to together,
it's really something special and unlike any other experience you have.
Speaker 1 (19:47):
Yep, I totally agree. Absolutely, very well said, Very well done, guys. Congratulations.
I hope you raise a lot of money, not only
for the Historical Museum but for yourself, Thomas.
Speaker 2 (19:59):
You have certainly earned it.
Speaker 3 (20:01):
And uh good.
Speaker 2 (20:03):
Good luck on this thing.
Speaker 1 (20:04):
And uh let's let's let's all talk about maybe doing
something else, so we'll keep that in mind for the.
Speaker 3 (20:10):
Next time anytime. Thank you sir, all right.
Speaker 1 (20:13):
Thank you Timas, thank you Gary Graff. All right, guys,
thanks very much.
All right, So joining me on the line here this afternoon,
we've got Gary Graff, the Rock and Roll insider and author,
along with photographer extraordinaire Thomas Weschler.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
Hi, you guys, how you.
Speaker 3 (00:12):
Doing just fine?
Speaker 2 (00:15):
All right?
Speaker 1 (00:15):
Well, congratulations, we have mastered the technology of putting us
all together, so I love that. Well, let me start
out by big congratulations you guys on the Traveling Man
on the Road and behind the scenes with Bob Seeger,
the exhibit that was happening at the Historical Museum in Detroit,
(00:37):
and now it's coming to an end, but we've got
something special planned, correct, Yes.
Speaker 3 (00:42):
Sir, it's coming to an end on the IDEs of
March next Saturday, where they are going to use an
auction to auction off all of the sixteen x twenty
photographs framed photographs. There are thirty six of them, and
they're going to auction that off. Now, some of the
(01:03):
proceeds are going to go to the to the Historical
Museum and the Detroit Historical Society, and some of the
proceeds are going to go to me because they're my photographs.
So it'll be it'll be really a cool gig, all right.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
Well, Thomas, Tell me when did when did this exhibit begin?
How long has it been?
Speaker 3 (01:23):
Said? It started one year ago on the fifteenth of March.
The museum called Alex, my manager, and they had asked
if we would be interested in having a kind of
a Bob Seger Day show, and they wanted to use
a bunch of my pictures from my book to display.
(01:45):
So we said sure, yeah, let's do it. And we
did it. And I gave them their choice of the
photos in the book and they picked out thirty six
of them. I sent them all Highris images and they
printed them, they framed them, and they displayed them. And
it looks great. It displays like gives me a chill
(02:06):
when I walk in there. I can't believe I did
all that.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
No, it does.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
It absolutely looked beautiful in the uh, in the photographs
that I've seen now. Now Gary Graff is with us
as well, and Gary collaborated on.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
That book with you, the Traveling Man Book. Uh.
Speaker 3 (02:22):
It was his idea.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
Gary. How much input did did you have in the display?
Speaker 4 (02:29):
In the display? None? This is really and well deserved.
This is Tom's show. It really is. It really is
an emphasis on the photography and the craft of Tom's
photography as well as some of his some of his artifacts,
you know, like his camera case and things like that.
So I got to be part of it. We opened it.
(02:51):
I can't believe it's been a year, but we did it.
We did an opening talk, you know for that, you know,
when the exhibit first started, and and you know, now
it's going to be nice to to actually bring it,
to bring it to a close. Kind of sad because
it's the quality of it. You know, it feels like
it should be a permanent exhibit in a way. But
(03:11):
but these things, you know, these things come and go,
and it's not like the photos aren't there. I know,
you know, Tom through his websites and and galleries, you know,
these photos are all are still available to people to
have for their homes as well as well as just
to look at them in the book.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
Yeah, I was going to say I thought the same
thing myself, guys, that it could be a permanent display
down there. I mean, who better than to uh you know,
represent Detroit Rock and Bob Seeger on display at the
Historical Museum.
Speaker 3 (03:48):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
Now, maybe they're planning on, you know, maybe doing something else.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
Maybe the MC five is coming up next on that. Sure,
if they're if they're interested in going in that direction.
But what about you guys?
Speaker 1 (03:59):
Now, I would Amain Thomas that you've got photos upon
photos of Detroit rock artists.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
I know you were very close to Bob Seeer.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
But have you guys talked about possibly collaborating on another book,
like say the MC five.
Speaker 3 (04:16):
Well maybe not, Well maybe I don't know about dot.
I'll tell you how we started the Tamina Man book
was we were going to collaborate on all of my
rock photos which were on display back in nineteen or
in two thousand and two. And Gary came to the
display and we looked around. We'd been friends for quite
(04:36):
a while, and I said, well, what did you think
of the captions I put under it? Because they need work.
Let's talk. And so we went over. We went over
to my house and I've shown him a whole bunch
of pictures on my computer. I'd keep on going through them.
Every time one came up with Bob Seger, I'd tell
him something for five minutes about it. After about six
(04:58):
or seven of those, he said, hold it, let's do
a book on Bob Seeker. We're considered the rest of
it for later, and I went, oh yeah, okay, guys
sold fifty million records, there weren't any books out on them.
Let's give it a shot. And Gary hooked it up
with Wayne State University Press and we did it. Uh.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
You know, when you put a couple of great people together,
good things come out of it, that's for sure. Now, Gary,
apparently at the end of this run here on Saturday,
you're putting one of your famous panels together for a
bit of a chat.
Speaker 4 (05:31):
Yeah. We've got Tom doing interpretive dance. It's it's really
going to be something special. No what we what we're doing,
you know. For the for the opening, I was just
Tom and I talking about the book and about the photos,
which is always fun. But you don't want to repeat
what you what you what you already did. So we've
assembled a panel of radio people and we're going to
(05:54):
talk about But Bob Seeker's important to Detroit radios because
that relationship is unlike any anything in any other market.
You know, by as you said, Bob Seger is so
synonymous with Detroit and Detroit rock and his as you
well know, Doug, for your not too many years here,
you're still a young guy. But for for you know,
(06:17):
with with your great experience in the market, you know,
you know what that relationship is, and the whenever something
new comes out from Seger, the clamor to be playing it.
Whenever he would play shows, the clamor to have tickets
and interviews and to be talking about the shows. So
I thought we'd get some you know, some of the
(06:38):
radio folks together to talk about that relationship, and Thomas
will be talking about it, you know, on the panel too,
because he had a front row seat for kind of
how that was done, and I have no doubt drove
over to some of the radio stations to help make
some of that happen. So I think from a Detroit
rock and roll historical perspective, it's going to be a
(07:00):
really fascinating conversation.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
Yeah, you've got a nice panel.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
They've all had their different eras of Bob Sieger music.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
And and radio experiences.
Speaker 1 (07:11):
Uh So, Steve Costan certainly will well remember just about
every single thing, no doubt about it. Thank uh but
you know Scream and Scott as well coming up as
one of the younger guys, and Mark Pasman he was
a program director of w r IF. So yeah, no
question you've got a nice panel. I'm sorry that I
(07:32):
had to turn you down. I wish I could have
been there.
Speaker 4 (07:35):
But I was coming I was coming up with my
snarky comment about that. But basically, we're finding people who
don't feel like they have to go party down river
for Saint Patrick's Day.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
Yeah, well tell my sales staff that. But you know,
you know how that works.
Speaker 1 (07:55):
But I wish I could have been there because it
is going to be and and certainly is a piece
of Detroit rock history. You know, you just can't wash
this away after Saturday. I mean, this is an important
slice of the pie, no question about it. Bob Seeger,
the photographs, Gary, your interpretation of.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
All of this.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
This is like I said, something that I think should
be in there permanently. But if it isn't, then let's
buy some of it.
Speaker 4 (08:25):
Oh and I was going to say, or you know
it does. This isn't necessary. This doesn't necessarily have to
be the the only and last time this is this
is displayed. And here I am stepping into Tom's purview,
But I've got to think there are other places in
the metro area or around the state where he this
story could could be told and then that would welcome it.
Speaker 3 (08:48):
Well. Yeah, and out of one hundred and sixty seven
pictures in the book Gary that you and I had,
thirty six of them are on display. There could be
thirty six more.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
Well, I was just going to say, Thomas Edos comes
to mind, uh for a place that you could you know,
he would take down all the other art and put
up just your art. And uh, that has been you know,
a bit of a mecca for artists in Detroit to
go to and to sell their their artistry. So, uh
(09:23):
that that's just just off the top of my head.
That's a place that could be available. But the pieces
are absolutely beautiful, and I wanted to ask about one.
And that's the uh, the the gold record that's back there.
Speaker 3 (09:37):
Oh, that's that was given to me by Capitol Records
because I did I did the album cover for a
Live Bullet and I was presented the gold record by
Capitol Records. I believe it was Craig Lambert that gave
it to me. And it was a thrill. I mean,
(09:59):
gold record. I never even played on a record, you know,
and I thought that was just great. Yeah, I put
that in the display. I wanted to make sure people
were aware of that.
Speaker 4 (10:09):
I'm going to interrupt here just to say there is
a great story about the design of that cover that
if we have time, you should have ton tell here.
Speaker 1 (10:17):
Oh, well, we certainly have time, so yeah, let's let's
let's hear it, because I mean, that's a pretty historic cover,
if I don't mind saying so myself.
Speaker 3 (10:28):
Well, we we had a meeting with all the band
members and at Punch's house on the a couple of
weeks before we had to have the cover design out
to California, and all the band members came and I
brought all my slides, and I asked for slides from
(10:49):
all over the country of photographers to send them into us.
And we looked at him on the Punches refrigerator. It's white,
so we purta him all there, and Chris Campbell picked
out the one he liked, and Drew said, oh like
that one, and you know, so on and so forth,
and everybody was happy with the choices until the cover itself,
(11:13):
and I kept on showing pictures and everybody left. They
were gone by the time they picked out that the
ones they wanted. Punch was already upstairs and it was
just buzzy and he's Buzzy Van Houghton. I was one
of our good friends. He and I were the two
last two left. And I showed Robbie Markle with his
(11:33):
photo on the refrigerator and I said, oh man, that's
got to be the cover. Oh Seeger, you know how
he's got his arm up and he's moving around and
his hair going out in the back like it was
perfect for the cover. So I took a magic marker
and I said, here we go. This is where we're
going to put the logo, here's where the album title goes.
(11:54):
And then we turned the lights on and there's this
black and white magic marker on Punch's refrigerator. Buzzy looks
at me and he goes, I don't think that stuff
comes off all right, So we better get out of
here before Punch comes down the stairs. So that's how
that That exactly how that happened.
Speaker 1 (12:16):
Wow, all right, Well, I'm sure he was able to
afford a new refrigerator, but maybe.
Speaker 3 (12:24):
There was some kind of stuff to get it off.
Speaker 1 (12:28):
So when do these when do these photographs go up
on the auction block? And Gary, how can people access him?
Do you have to be there? Can you go on
a link.
Speaker 4 (12:39):
What's the story, Tom, I'll let you answer that one, because.
Speaker 3 (12:42):
They're going to be going online with a silent auction
on Friday, okay, this coming Friday, and then on the fifteenth,
they'll be auctioned off there along with whatever has been
auctioned off on over the first day on Friday. And
(13:03):
I'm not sure exactly how they're going to set it up,
but I know that it will be completed by Saturday
at nine o'clock. That's when it's over. Between six and
nine is when the event comes up with all the
gathering of people, and I hope there's a lot of
people who I think there will be. I've been getting
(13:23):
notes from people all week say yeah, I will be there, man,
I'll be so I'm happy about that. But as far
as the actual pieces, I was down there on Monday.
A film crew was filming me talking about the photos
and all that inside that display, and I talked for
(13:45):
two and a half hours and they filmed me talking
about every photo in there and all kinds of stuff,
and about Bob and about my time on the road
with him and everything. And it came up that this
display is going to be coming down and the camera.
Guys are going, well why, and I said, well, because
(14:08):
they're going to auction off the photos and there their
sentiment was quite about the Santa Is yours that you know, hey,
it should still be up somewhere, and that's when I
came in with the idea of, well, there's way more
pictures in my book than just these, so maybe we
can do something else. But at the same time, it's
going to be from six until nine on Saturday, and
(14:31):
I believe it starts at six o'clock on Friday online.
That's that's all they told me. I don't really know
all the details to that, because that's up to the museum.
They're the ones getting the uh you know, they're they're
getting the lion's share of the proceeds because they paid
for all the prints and all the frames, and I'm
(14:51):
going to get some of it too so I can
stay on the road.
Speaker 1 (14:55):
So if people go to the Detroit Historical Museum website,
they're probably probably going to find the icon information and
a link there.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
I think I'll check.
Speaker 3 (15:05):
Oh, yes they will. They sent me a big thing
there today. I'll send it to you guys. It's a
a rather lengthy post and it's it's pretty nice. It's
got the whole setup on it.
Speaker 1 (15:19):
And then Gary, you're going to have your panel and
that's going to be that'll be.
Speaker 4 (15:24):
Right at the start of the right at the start
of the evening.
Speaker 3 (15:26):
Okay, we we started, my manager and his assistant started
a go Fundme page for our movie. We want to
make a film about Traveling Man, about the book and
about the making thereof, and we want to do a documentary,
(15:48):
so we're trying to do that too. At the same time,
I'd like to I'd like to perpetuate Seeger for as
long as I can, because he was very good to me,
and he's been very good to Detroit.
Speaker 1 (16:02):
Absolutely and uh, you know, tip of the cap to
Alex Green, to your manager for helping out with all
of this. And I'm going to go to his page
and share that as well, so people can, you know,
check out the GoFundMe page and maybe other people will
share it. Yeah, that would be a fun I mean, listen,
these documentaries today are getting bigger and bigger, and they're
(16:24):
landing in Imax theaters. So you know, when they even
started the led Zeppelin one, nobody thought it was going
to be this big and look at what's happening.
Speaker 2 (16:33):
So, uh, you know, Bob Seeker could have the same effect.
Speaker 3 (16:37):
Yeah, yeah, I trust Alex with his his his filmmaking abilities.
He's got fourteen Emmys and three Tonys sorry awards, so
he knows what he's doing.
Speaker 1 (16:50):
So it's just the photographs, I mean, are these cases
and uh records and all that everything.
Speaker 3 (16:56):
They're going to Well, I'm not going to auction off
unless somebody wants to give me a lot of money
for my goal record. I don't want to part with that.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
Really. Well, I'm that's I mean, I'm checking.
Speaker 3 (17:10):
My camera case is priceless. It got it's got stickers
from Wheels, Riffs, ABX, all the stations in Detroit, all
the stations in Michigan, all the stations in Chicago, Cleveland, Cincinnati,
wherever I went. I put stickers on from the stations
(17:32):
and backstage passes. That thing is loaded.
Speaker 1 (17:36):
I'm okay with the stickers. But yeah, that's beautiful platinum album,
you know, gold record.
Speaker 2 (17:41):
You don't see those anymore. So I'll let you keep.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
It for a while, Thomas, But if you do decide
to sell it, you can always call me. But listen, guys,
thank you so much for the time, but more importantly,
thank you for this project.
Speaker 2 (17:57):
Thank you for putting that book out.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
It's been a while now, but it's still reaping all
kinds of benefits for everybody in Detroit, in including the
fans of Bob Seger.
Speaker 2 (18:08):
And I think this is just a fantastic project.
Speaker 1 (18:11):
And I hope that maybe while you're there you can
negotiate another thirty six different photos up there, or maybe
a different Detroit artist.
Speaker 2 (18:22):
But you guys are fantastic.
Speaker 3 (18:24):
Let me tell you one more thing, Doug about the book.
I only found this out last week. Wayne State Publishing
is issuing a new book, a brand new Bob Seger
traveling Man book. They're redoing the paperback and they're putting
a different cover on it, but it's going to be
the same book, just so you know. Okay, I didn't
(18:47):
know that.
Speaker 2 (18:49):
To speak.
Speaker 3 (18:50):
Yeah, yeah, well yeah, this will be the second Persson
so that's good.
Speaker 1 (18:55):
Well, yeah, people should seek it out and pick it
up because it is a fantastic book and it's timeless.
Speaker 2 (19:01):
Well, Gary, any final thoughts on the uh on the panel?
Speaker 4 (19:04):
Yeah, well, you know again, I think it was a
nice night when we started it a year ago, and
I think it'll be a nice night to close it here.
You know, I think people come to see this exhibit
and to take part in these events because of what
Seeger means to them, and what the music means, and
just in general, what getting the Detroit rock community together
(19:27):
for an evening means to people. That's whether it's about
the MC five or it's tales from the D series
like the Historical Museum has started. You know, when you
do get the music fan community of Detroit to together,
it's really something special and unlike any other experience you have.
Speaker 1 (19:47):
Yep, I totally agree. Absolutely, very well said, Very well done, guys. Congratulations.
I hope you raise a lot of money, not only
for the Historical Museum but for yourself, Thomas.
Speaker 2 (19:59):
You have certainly earned it.
Speaker 3 (20:01):
And uh good.
Speaker 2 (20:03):
Good luck on this thing.
Speaker 1 (20:04):
And uh let's let's let's all talk about maybe doing
something else, so we'll keep that in mind for the.
Speaker 3 (20:10):
Next time anytime. Thank you sir, all right.
Speaker 1 (20:13):
Thank you Timas, thank you Gary Graff. All right, guys,
thanks very much.
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