Doug Talks to Sammy Hagar about The New LIONS THEME Song & and What's Happening with The Red Rocker!

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Yeah, Hi there w LZ Detroit Wheels.

Speaker 2 (00:03):
Would this be Sir Douglas Hodell.

Speaker 1 (00:08):
The Red Rocker Sammy?

Speaker 2 (00:13):
Yes, Sir, I am you call me Sam de Sham.
I'll call you.

Speaker 1 (00:18):
Just don't call me late for dinner, all right? Yeah
we know that one.

Speaker 2 (00:23):
Well, Sammy. We're on different time zones, so so yeah,
we're okay.

Speaker 1 (00:27):
There, I got Doug.

Speaker 2 (00:28):
What can I do for you? What can I do
for you? Sir brother?

Speaker 3 (00:30):
I got to tell you, I got a story for you,
and uh, I think you're gonna like it. But first off,
I know you're over there on the West Coast, and
I guess I got to ask, have you been affected
at all by these fires?

Speaker 1 (00:43):
Or have you seen some of this devastation out there?

Speaker 2 (00:47):
No? I mean what I see on the news is
what i'm pictures I get from my friends that are
in the middle of it. You know, I know more
people that have lost their home and have been evacuated
than any other situation I can ever think of. I mean,
you know, uh, the floods and the East coasts and
things like that. You know, I know a few people
know a few people. God man, you realized when you

(01:08):
grew up in southern California. How many people you know
that were affected by this. It's unbelievable. I mean, it's
it's horrible. But no, the first day that they had
the sant Anna winds, which I live on the on
the beach, so uh, the Santa Ana winds come from inland.
And when they and the day that morning we woke
up and there was sant Ana wins. I'm going, whoa, man,

(01:30):
this is like a nice, big warm winds, really nice
and because they're Santa Ana wins are kind of cool,
but uh, we're kind of warm. But anyway, I kind
of dig them. But then all of a sudden we
start seeing ash and smoke and stuff come just that
one day, you know, we closed all our windows and said, wow,
there's fires and just saw the beginning of it. And
then the wind shifted and it's stayed shifted since then.

(01:54):
It's comes, you know, the wind ninety nine percent of
the time comes off the ocean and it blows you know,
all the our crap inland to be like that. But
but so we haven't been affected by the smoke, but
I've seen it, you know, way out at sea as
you see a little bit or we having some beautiful sunsets.
I'll tell you that, it's a hell of a way
to have to have them. Yeah, it's so that's it

(02:15):
for me. But I know plenty of people.

Speaker 1 (02:17):
Wow, yeah, well I do too.

Speaker 3 (02:19):
And you know, yeah, a lot of Detroiters have you know,
transplanted there over the years, especially musicians, so a lot
of friends and yeah, I'm just glad to see that
you're safe and you're doing well.

Speaker 2 (02:33):
Yeah, we're good. We're going to be first ones in
there doing something. There's there's you know, everybody saying what
are you gonna do it? Are you gonna There's so
many charity benefits, you know, coming on. Everybody's trying to
do them. So I'm just waiting. I mean, Irving Azof
and Live Nation and along with aeg. You know, they're
competitions and everyone is coming together on that end and

(02:57):
they're going to do a big one and so we're
gonna be I'm gonna be part of that. But I'm
also doing something for the first responders. I uh, the
fireman and the policeman and all those people that you
know that's those are the people that are just putting
their lives on the line. I mean, you watch the
footage of these helicopter poets. Man, the way they're coming
in and dropping this stuff and within a few feet
of those flames. It's the most dangerous shop in the

(03:20):
world right now to be fighting those things and they're
out there kicking ass. So I'm doing something for that
next month. I got a planned, yeah, and so it's free.
Those kind of things have to be free, you know,
a fundraiser to try and help rebuild the community. You know,
everybody goes, oh, those were all rich people, you know, well, yeah,
they're rich people. A lot of people weren't. You know,
there's a lot of rich people, and they'll be putting

(03:41):
their money and where their mouth is too to help.
It's the school districts and things like that that that
that got, you know, just just devastating small businesses. So anyway,
you know, we're out helped to you know, get these
people housed and get them uh, you know, clothing and
stuff right away.

Speaker 3 (03:59):
You know.

Speaker 2 (03:59):
That's that's why this thing has to happen quick. But
the long story short is that the that's fundraisers. You're
asking people to donate money and stuff. But what I
want to do is I just want to play a
concert for the for the first responders and their families.
So we're going to do it on a battleship and
send Peter a harbor next month, and I just get
a bunch of guys and just play music and have
a big free for all for uh. And then those

(04:23):
people that did all that hard, they will love their
lives on the line.

Speaker 1 (04:25):
They will absolutely love that. Yeah, way better I will
love anything else.

Speaker 2 (04:30):
I will love that because that makes my heart feel good.
I'm going, you know, somebody's got to think of those guys.
But anyway, so but but Doug, what what about us?
What are you? And?

Speaker 1 (04:38):
All right, so I got a good story for you.

Speaker 3 (04:40):
So I'm online and I see Red Rocker Brewing and
of course, hey, by the way, I love your Lagger beer.

Speaker 2 (04:47):
I just come on, I'm not bragging, but it is
the best blogger on the planet. Well, you're gonna tell
me your story, and I'll tell you how I come
up with with the blend. Okay, just put my name
on this. I spent a week in Detroit Brewery. Down there.
I spent a week going through all the different tastes
that I like, the taste profiles, what they had, what
they didn't have and went through it and put it

(05:08):
all together, and then they started making me bruise and
I said, getting close, getting close, and we finally hit
it and I'll tell you how we did that.

Speaker 3 (05:13):
But yeah, I was at that crazy concert at the
Filmore that you did too to kick it off and
it was fantastic. So okay, So there's a video that's online.
I think Ernie and Stephanie from Red Rocker put it
up online and they got a couple of friends of
mine to do the video, John Anton from The Token
and John Bobby from JJM Management. They went around town

(05:38):
and they shot all this Lions footage because everything here
right now, Sammy is Lions, Lions, Detroit Lions. They're going
to the super Bowl.

Speaker 2 (05:49):
But yeah, it is as it should be. Come on, man,
you guys got to be so proud. That is like
a man, that's like a It was fantastic, okay.

Speaker 3 (05:57):
Yeah, so yeah, fifty seven years we've been waiting for
a playoff game and now you know, it looks like
they're heading to actually the super Bowl. So it's been
like Lions frenzy. So I click on this video and
it is you and Kid Rock doing knockdown Dragout to
all of this Lion's footage. And what caught my eye

(06:20):
is that we do a big tailgate party here at
the Eastern Market for the Lions, and we also did
a viewing party over at the Token. Our call letters
got in the video. I'm watching this video, I'm listening
to this song. I'm going, what the hell did they do?
Write a new song for the Lions? You know, I

(06:40):
don't know how I missed this in twenty thirteen. I
don't know that song you know was flying under the radar.
But you got to tell me about this knockdown dragout
with you and Kid Rock because we've been playing this
song and it's become like a Detroit Lions anthem.

Speaker 2 (07:00):
It's so ironic, you know things everything happens in the
in time and will happen at the right time in
the right place when everything lines up. So and yeah,
in twenty thirteen, someone sent me this song. I didn't
even write this, well, I co wrote it when but
they sent me this song idea and it was to
present to the NFL and say, you know, they need

(07:21):
a new theme. So remember when Hank Junior, you see,
if we're going to have some football. Yeah, they wanted it.
They wanted a new song, so I said, yeah, I
spipped it up, recorded it. I was doing a Sammy
Hagar and Friends record, which had, you know, Joe Santriani
was working on a couple songs of me and Neil
Sean and a bunch of different people. I had to

(07:44):
duets with me on that record. So I thought, this
would be great to have Kid Rock sing on this.
You know, he's he's got a voice that could get
up in that range where we're screaming like that. So
he said, yeah, I'll do it. So I sent it
to him. He did his part, and it never got
picked up. They sent to the NFL and they didn't
use it. And and and I made this crazy little

(08:05):
video and and it was like mostly a live video, uh,
in a in a dressing room. I was being filmed
under with it almost like with the eye camera, you know. Uh.
And and we made this cheap video and we used
footage from Kid Rock jamming with me and on at
the amphitheater out there, so fine, no excuse my language.

(08:26):
And then uh it never I put it on the record,
but it never got released as a single, never saw
the light of day. All of a sudden, somebody calls
me from Red Rocker Brewing Company. Well, from let me
let's like this from uh Detroit brew Company, one of
the guys there, and he goes, dude, you need to
write a song for the lions man. You know, a

(08:47):
song about the foot you know, blah blah blah. I go,
I got a song and I remembered it just like that,
and I pulled it out and I pulled it up
and we all listened to it and went, holy cra
cra this and kid rocks it. I mean, I like,
it was a premonition way back then, I guess, But
but we we hit it and and yeah, so they

(09:08):
re edited it and put some good footage in it,
and so I'm so I'm so happy about this. I
called Bob Up, you know, the Bob kid. I called
mister rock Up, and I said, Bob, you cool with
me putting this out? He said, for the lines. Hell, yeah,
so yeah, it's it's it's cool. Let's go. If it's
something happens, would be great. If nothing else, give the

(09:30):
talent a little theme song, you know what I mean?

Speaker 3 (09:33):
Yeah, I mean, you know, hey, listen there if they
get past this one this weekend, there's gonna be another
big playoff game here. How incredible would it be to
drag you and Kid Rock out there to uh maybe
perform that song. But if anything, they need to put
the video up on the big screens for viewing parties
or whatever they got going on. But you you are

(09:55):
absolutely right, Sammy, this song well, and now it kind
of makes sense was written for the NFL.

Speaker 1 (10:01):
I mean, sack them, sack them. I'm thinking, oh my god,
this is like, it doesn't get more perfect than this.

Speaker 3 (10:08):
And the guys who did the video, I mean they
really they really, you know, like tacked in just the
right thing at the right time.

Speaker 2 (10:16):
And I thought they did a great job too. Yeah,
because there was a low budget thing. You know that
stuff can get really expensive. But no, they did a
good job and did it they Yeah, I'm I'm blown away.
You know that's Joe Satriani playing the guitars and that
thing the solo and all that. Wow, and yeah, so
you got you got a pretty pretty all star band there.
I think, uh, I forget who was playing drums. I

(10:38):
think it might have been Denny Carmassi on drums from
from you know, heart and.

Speaker 4 (10:43):
From wait wait here, I got a lot of I
got a list it says, uh yeah, Denny Carmassi, Joe
satriani Vic Johnson also did a little bit uh kid
rock yourself uh and percussion.

Speaker 1 (10:58):
John is at it.

Speaker 2 (11:01):
Oh yeah, that's a producer. He was a co producer
that think. Yeah we're on a trip. Yeah, so well
group right there, man, you know.

Speaker 3 (11:10):
I mean it's it's perfect because you're you are almost
like a Detroit right, I mean, if you're if your
beer is going to be brewed here, you might as
well just call yourself, you know, a Detroit.

Speaker 2 (11:22):
You know, I I've told people a million times. Doug
Montrose my first band. We played Gobo Hall twelve times
in one year, and not headlining. We opened for twelve
different people, one of them being Aaron Arrowsman's Jay Guile, Lumblepie,
you know, you just name it. We opened for anybody
and everybody, and then we went to our manager said, man,

(11:45):
don't you think we should try to headline Detroit? Man,
We've only you know, we might as well move there.
I felt like I was in Detroit more than any
other place, and the whole, you know, the whole Montrose
three years I was in Montrose. Oh yeah, honestly, we
played Detroit more than any other city in the world.

Speaker 1 (12:02):
Well that's how they.

Speaker 3 (12:02):
Did it back then too. They would have, you know,
open for Jethrow Tull. It didn't matter you did this,
they did that. But you know, they put you all
in one big, you know, arena. But bringing up Cobo Hall, Sammy,
you know we've had some history, you and I and
Wheels WLLZ together when it comes to sports. Now that

(12:25):
you brought it up. In nineteen eighty four, WLLZ broadcast
your concert from Cobo Hall and if you remember, it
was the same night the Tigers won the World Series.

Speaker 2 (12:40):
No, I don't remember any of that.

Speaker 1 (12:42):
You gotta be kidding me, because if you look, if
you google.

Speaker 3 (12:46):
Wait, Sammy, you got to go on Google and google
Red Rocker Cobo Hall. It is the number one bootlegged album.
I would have to believe in America. And I'm the
m see on there. People send it to me all
the time. Do you know You're on this CD and

(13:07):
and you opened I don't know if you remember this,
but you let the ushers open the doors and all
the people from the street who were streaming from Tiger stadium,
came into the concert and you played an additional hour
at least.

Speaker 2 (13:26):
So oh, that sounds like something I would do now, Doug,
I remember doing that kind of stuff. But what a trip.
That's a wonderful story. I can't believe I forgot that.
That's yeah, that's fantastic.

Speaker 1 (13:38):
You know, I'll tell you there there's something.

Speaker 3 (13:41):
There's something to dig out of the archives and put
out on vinyl.

Speaker 1 (13:45):
Is the w LLZ nineteen eighty four live broadcast. I mean,
you were.

Speaker 3 (13:50):
Doing all the solo stuff back then, and Montrose it
was pretty amazing.

Speaker 2 (13:57):
Yeah, that was I Can't Drive fifty five era. I
probably open in the show. I used to do. Dick
in the Dirt was my first song. I think I
think that. M h. What a trip. Well wow, Well,
thank you for sharing that story with me, because you know,
I don't remember anything that. I mean, I remember a
lot of stuff, but I don't remember everything that was important,

(14:20):
and that's important to remember that. To me, that's important.
That's a cool thing to do. I did that one
time in Texas, somewhere in Corpus Christie, Texas. I had
broke really big in San Antonio and then Houston in Dallas.
I was breaking big and this is back about eighty one,
eighty two and and and I said, they started saying, hey,

(14:42):
you know, let's play. Let's try Corpus Christy at the arena.
And we sold about seven hundred tickets and it was
it was a you know, ten twelve thousand seed arena,
and it was a disaster. So I got on a
radio with the radio station and we just wanted radio.
We called the TV station down there in the afternoon.
I said, it's free, come on down and the doors
are open and just walk on in. And we packed it.

(15:06):
I played for you know, you couldn't people. Thousands of
people couldn't get in. And I've always been able to
sell that arena out my whole life from doing that.
And it's like, you know, it's just I was good
for doing stuff like that. You know, I'm going I'm
gonna win. You know that's you know, people say, well,
same way, he's not the most talented guy in the world.
I'd say, yeah, but nobody's gonna outwork me, you know
what I mean. So yeah, I got my my sleeves

(15:27):
are rolled up and I'm ready to they can go
to work and do what I got to do to
make people happy and to make a success out of
whatever I'm doing. And I'm really proud of doing stuff
like that.

Speaker 1 (15:38):
You know, well, I have to say that.

Speaker 3 (15:40):
You know, there weren't many radio stations broadcasting live shows. Uh,
you know from a place the size of Cobo Hall,
Uh w ll Z back in the eighties. I was
so proud of that station, which is why I'm I'm
on the New Wheels. But you know, I'm pretty proud
of those call letters w ll Z. We used to
also used to also broadcast the Whiplash Bash concert from Ted.

Speaker 1 (16:04):
Nugit, but we had our finger on the button so often.

Speaker 2 (16:10):
Yeah, you didn't.

Speaker 3 (16:12):
Hear much of the concert, you know what I mean.
You had to block out all the swear words.

Speaker 2 (16:17):
We all love Ted, but boy, he can get a
little out there on you. You gotta be careful. I
can't talk to Ted on the speakerphone, you know what
I mean. To my house. It's like, all right, so
old your ears, folks. I'm gonna talk to Ted for
a minute. You know.

Speaker 3 (16:30):
I don't want to hold you up too much longer here, Sammy,
but I gotta ask.

Speaker 2 (16:33):
You so now, let me tell you about about the
beer though, real quick, okay, oh, I went, you know,
to make that brew. I'm a logger guy. I don't
like I p A sorry folks, you I PA people
out there. I don't like those heavy, bitter beers like that.
But I don't like light loggers, you know, the Coronas
and the Budweisers of the world. They're too light for me.
And it's hard to find a good logger. I like

(16:56):
it between the ale and the logger. So I just
went to work. I said, my favorite lagger at that
time was a Modelo especial and between that and a supporo,
which is a Japanese lagger, I like sapporo, And so
I said, somewhere between this, I need a little bit
of bitterness from the sapporo and a little bit I
mean a little bit of bitterness from the modello and

(17:19):
a little bit of sweetness from the sapporo, something in
between these two. And we kept making them, kept making them.
They had something called a campfire lagger or something. They
had two different laggers that I thought were pretty close.
And we got it, and we nailed it, and I
here's how I did it. When they said I think
we got it, I went there again. We sat down

(17:40):
and I got out of my sapporo in a in
a bottle and had them put it in a glass,
cold glass, put the MODELO in the cold glass and
like a blind taste and the three and I went
here it is. I like this right here, whatever this is?
This is it? He goes, that's Red Rocker Lagger. And
that's the way you do it. I did not just
put my name on something. It tasted better than my

(18:01):
two favorite beers, and that that's when I make tequila,
that's the way I do it. It's going to taste
better than my favorite tequila. When I make ram it's
gonna taste better than my favorite rum. That's the only
way to do it. You just go around putting your
name on something and then it's just some crap, well
non santic scrap, but it's not your person, right right.
And I make myseff personal, just like my music and

(18:23):
everything else. So anyway, I'm really proud of that stuff
and the fact that it's made in America, man, right
there in Detroit.

Speaker 1 (18:30):
Yeah, we love.

Speaker 3 (18:31):
It, by the way, we love it, and we're working
with your people there at the Red Rocker Brewing Company
as well. Detroit, Detroit Brewing and Red Rocker Laggers. So
hopefully we've got some good things coming up in the future.

Speaker 2 (18:45):
But well, you know, beer, beer's a funny thing. It
goes bad. You know, you can't leave it in a
can sitting in the sun for a couple of months
and and think it's going to be as good as
when it's first in that ice cold can, when it
comes right out of the brewery. So you guys are local, man,
you could have the best version of it. Man, it's
like you know that. That's if I lived in Detroit,

(19:07):
I would be driving down to the Brood once a week,
get my case of beer right from the Brood because
fresh beer is where it's at. Oh yeah, no doubt
about it now, all right, so fine, So finally, I uh,
you know, I had heard that you were going to
come back again with the band.

Speaker 3 (19:26):
I mean that concert at probably not. I mean, I
don't know what, forty thousand people there.

Speaker 1 (19:33):
That's the biggest concert. That was the biggest concert of
the summer. Probably not, no question about it.

Speaker 3 (19:38):
But you know I had heard that maybe you were
going to bring it back around and do the Van
Halen thing.

Speaker 1 (19:44):
And now I'm.

Speaker 3 (19:45):
Reading that you may not tour at all and just
do the residency there in Vegas, So can you tell
us the deal?

Speaker 2 (19:54):
I hate I hate saying that, especially in a town
like Detroit, which is all about I've been coming there
and playing live concerts since you know, the seventies, early seventies.
But you know, touring is hard for me. I mean,
I'm getting old, and I don't want to get out
on stage in the middle of a tour and say,
guess what, folks, I can't do this, Like my voice

(20:15):
isn't coming through. I can't hit the notes anymore. You know,
it's gonna happen to me. It's like it happens to
everybody eventually, and I've been the most lucky performer on
the planet. At my age. I can still sing all
them songs. I tune down a step, sure that's not
a problem, but there's still I can sing those songs
and perform the way I want to perform. And when
I can't do that, I'm I don't know what I'm

(20:38):
gonna do. I mean, well, I'm gonna quit. So I
don't ever want to say this is my last tour.
I could have said it on that last tour but
I said, no, I'm not going to say that because
it's not I don't know that for sure. I don't
know anything for sure until I keep going, you know,
and I say, hey, that was fine, Okay, let's go
book some more shows. So the residency, I think is
my next move to see if it can give my

(21:00):
career longevity by not having to get up in the morning, pack,
you know, leave to go to you know, get on
in a car, go to the airplane, get on a plane,
go to the town, get back in a car, go
to there and do a sound check, check a new
hotel room. By the time doing meet, by the time
I get on stage, I'm going I'm fucking exhausted, you know.
And so doing that relative to just going to a

(21:23):
town like Vegas and staying in the same hotel room,
your equipment's already there. You don't really have to sound check,
but you know, if you want till you can, because
you're sitting around all day, you're not traveling. I think
by taking the Trael element, I may be able to
do more shows and you know, might have longevity on
my career. And if that's the case, then I'll do residencies.

(21:44):
Look I'll come to Detroit and a residency, you know,
but but you know I don't want to go you know, Detroit, Chicago,
you know, Cleveland, Jim Bam bam, bam, bam, bam, bam bam.
So this is a this is a test to see
if I could do this Wednesday, Friday, Saturday in Vegas
and look at it. I wouldn't ask anyone to come
to Vegas if it wasn't the fucking rock and roll

(22:06):
culinary capital of the world. And there's more stuff to
do in Vegas than Cabo. You know, you know how
I feel about Cabo. I mean, come to Vegas. Look,
it's expensive as hell, unfortunately. But you know, if you're
going to go someplace and see a rock concert, well
come there and see us, because we can also change
the set. You know, when you're traveling every day, you

(22:27):
don't have time to rehearse. So this way, we're sitting
around all day, say hey, let's try this song tonight,
always say this song, let's try that song. Yeah, And
it's going to be so I'm so looking forward to
it and hopefully it will, like I say, give me
longevity in my live performance. But the Detroit show at
Pine Knob last year was the first show to sell out.
We put that thing on sale. It was gone, and

(22:49):
it was like wow, And I wanted to do two nights,
but we had already booked certain shows and so I
thought I would come back. I said, well, maybe we
can book another one at the end. But it doesn't
make any sense that way. You know. It's like, uh,
we had our rooting and routing and everything, so then
it would be like, oh no, I got to go
play another show, you know, just when I thought it

(23:09):
was over. And don't don't don't make me sound like
a grumpy old person. But let me tell you, after
after about six eight weeks down the road, you're going,
I needed to go home. I need a full night's
rest and a full days doing nothing. But yeah, man,
that show there was probably my top three favorite shows

(23:30):
in the last ten years. Well it was just so great, man.
It's just I mean, god, what is it about Detroit.
It's the rock and roll capital world, like the freaking
rock Yeah.

Speaker 3 (23:44):
Well, one of one of the greatest trips I ever
made to uh to see you live was at Cabo
so uh, you know, I highly recommend people get out
of the house. You know, take a trip and go
see Sammy Hagar. But yeah, I had a chance to
see one of your birth They bashes in October out
there at Cabo Wabbo and you know, walking down the

(24:05):
street at two in the morning, not you realize why
they call it, you know Wabbo.

Speaker 2 (24:12):
Well, let me, that's a whole different animal, the Cobo
Wabbo shows. There's some other kind of shit that that
isn't even You don't compare those to anything. They're just
their own animal and they create themselves. You can't say
one was better than the other. You can't say, well,
you know, I'm gonna put one together. I'm going to
try to outdo that one. No, you just we just
go out there and do it. And it's that little

(24:34):
small place that just something happens, you know, really special.
But I gotta tell you, man, that Pine Now felt
like to me. So we did there. I was just going, man,
this is like anyway dream come true. Haven't been able
to do that kind of stuff and have that kind
of fun at my age. I'm yeah, I'm a lucky man.
I'm I hate to be too wimpy about all this,

(24:58):
but I gotta be the happiest most grateful, appreciative. Yeah,
human being on a planet.

Speaker 1 (25:06):
You've done it right.

Speaker 3 (25:06):
You've done it right from from the beginning to the
end and all in between. So you know you've got
You've got no worries there for any of us, that's
for sure. And maybe you can even add Knockdown, Drag
Out to your set list.

Speaker 1 (25:19):
If the Lions win the Super Bowl, you.

Speaker 2 (25:22):
Know what, I'll be willing to come there and do
it in that stadium with kid Man. That would be
awesome if I came in there and knocked that sucker out.
Maybe we just do it to the backing track, like
like the Rappers too, you know, yeah.

Speaker 1 (25:34):
That would be fine.

Speaker 2 (25:35):
All right, So Sammy, I'll do anything.

Speaker 3 (25:37):
Man, don't hang up. I got to ask you something
when we end the podcast. But in the end, hey, listen,
thank you so much for the time, Thanks for clearing
up where this this song came from. Knockdown, Drag Out.
We've been playing it, We're going to continue to play it.
And all I can say is, hey, let's go Lions.

Speaker 2 (25:57):
Oh, come on, let's go. Linees you they have to win,
but you know what I mean, even if they didn't,
it's like, do you remember when Ray Boom boom Man
Sini when he lost his first title shot to Alexis Arguayo.
He by losing that fight became the biggest star on
the planet because he gave it everything he had. I mean,
you couldn't say he didn't do you say, oh man,

(26:19):
he should have? No, No, you said nothing, you went.
That guy deserves to be champion and he will be
champion as soon as Alexis Arguo gets the hell out
of there. But that would be like that the Lions
didn't win. It's like they gave it everything, and it
would make you more proud of them. Just no, it
would make you just as proud of them if they
didn't win the super Bowl. We know they're gonna win. Yeah,

(26:41):
we ain't gonna put that seat out there. But seriously,
I mean, from the bottom of my heart, I mean that.
So you know, yeah, let's go. But before we end
this podcast, I'll say one thing too that I want
the fans that are coming to Vegas from Detroit area
go buy a case of beer and put in your
trunk and drive it out to me. Will you pray

(27:01):
it to Vegas? I'm not sure we got it in Vegas,
all right?

Speaker 1 (27:05):
We will do that. We will do it, we will
do it.

Speaker 2 (27:08):
We'll drop it off of the cobble wabble of nothing else.
We'll buy it from you. Okay, thank you,