February 27, 2024 • 53 mins
With the Twilight Renaissance upon us during an age of remakes, it was inevitable that there would be a reboot. The show is currently in its infancy, but it has caused plenty of discussion within the fandom: who’s going to play our main characters? What direction will they go with the storyline? Blue tint or no?
It’ll be months before we get any answers, but for now, we’ll ponder the possibilities of sparkly-skinned vampires in the age of TikTok.
It’ll be months before we get any answers, but for now, we’ll ponder the possibilities of sparkly-skinned vampires in the age of TikTok.
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Because I think you do have tohave a romance aspect to it, Like
obviously, I don't think you cantake that away. So if we did
Carlisle story, like we need towatch him like go through a woman,
which I'm kind of down for.Yeah, Okay, he can listen,
he can, he can and hedid, he caned he did. That's
actually the canon. Yeah, Iknew what you are. Tyheart's in recovery
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and recovery. See I simply cannotlook at an apple the same way anymore.
See it. Twilight just had sucha grip on so many people.
See See Out the twy Hard RecoveryClub podcast, Empire, break Out the
Sparkle. The Twilight saga is gettingthe television treatment, as sources tell The
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Hollywood Reporter that a series version ofauthor Stepanie Meyer's best selling book series is
in early development via Lionsgate Television.Quite the run on, Huh that was
one SI bad Well, I getlike break Out the Sparkle was its own
sentence after that. Hello, thisis welcome to the Saying Aloud Podcast.
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My name is Jenna from Z oneO four. My name's Alyssa. I
edit the news and this episode probablywon't sound that different. But just for
the listener, I want you toknow that we have you know, six
seven studios in this building, butnone of them were working for us today.
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So what we're doing right now iswe are downstairs in the basement and
I am in one room and thenAlyssa is in a different room, and
there's a piece of glass between us. But we are solid, like twenty
feet away. It's pretty farm andseparated by a wall. Yeah, it's
real bunker vibes do here. We'rejust staying safe, you know. Yeah,
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we're not gonna think about it toomuch, but it is so awkward.
Yeah, but it might make forlike a really funny, silly episode
yay. Yeah, and the contentwill be silly. So so just so
you know, if we're a littledistant today, that's right. The camaraderie
might be off. Yeah, we'llsee. Okay, So it's been a
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while since we did an episode whoopsieswhatever. But there are a couple of
things that have happened in the Twilightuniverse, a couple of Twilight collabs to
be more specific. First of all, the Lego set, which has not
come out yet and they haven't actuallydeveloped it yet, but they are officially
working on it, and I thinkwhat happened was like it was like a
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fan voted contest I think, okay, where they voted on like a I
don't know, but that one,so that's coming. Do you play with
legos or did you as a child? No? All right, so I
can't personally relate to this. Butmaybe I'll buy like the little figurines that
look like Bella and I'll put itin my mouth. I don't know,
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Okay, I'll chew on it.Right. The other Twilight Brian clob that
just happened is obviously the Twilight ColorPop make up palette and like lip oil
and like body oil, like abunch of shit, which sold out in
just a matter of minutes. Idon't know, Lissa, would you would
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you get anything from the collection?I like the shades that come in the
eyeshadow palette, but I don't likeI would buy it as a palette,
like separate as a Twilight thing,you know what I mean? Like I
feel like it didn't quite feel aslike have as much range of Twilight as
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I wanted. Yeah, there's literallynot a red in it, right,
and like I sort of get itbecause on the packaging, it's like it's
the metal scene or whatever. Butthen the box itself is like white with
like red text, So then youthink it's gonna be at least have like
a little bit of that in there. That doesn't I thought the lip oils
were stupid. Yeah, personally,I don't know interested who was involved in
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making those decisions. Yeah, Ifeel like maybe the thought process, and
a lot of other people have kindof pointed this out, is maybe that
they are hoping to do like apalette for every movie slash book potentially,
and so they're like trying to stayaway from like the browns and the reds
because they're saving that for New Moon. But I'm like, I don't think
you come out. I don't know. I just for a first collection to
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see how it goes, I wouldput a red in there, yeah,
And I think like that would belike four palettes, and I think it
would lose momentum, Like you haveto space those out pretty far because like
by the time you get to BreakingDawn, it's just like, yeah,
it's like I'll be thirty and Iwon't have a red until yeah Eclipse,
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So no, you know, andalso like I don't know, I feel
like the main colors that you woulddo would be from Twilight and the New
Moon, and then after that you'rejust coming up with shit. Yeah,
if it's just like neutrals that arelike Twilight inspired, and then there's like
a couple fun shades, I thinkthat would be a way to go.
Let's do one. Okay, well, we'll make one. I will say
there were also a lot of likeblack creators that we're pointing out that those
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are not very like varying skin colorfriendly shades. That was a very convoluted
way of saying that. But youknow, so right, there's also that
which you know, the vampires arewhite and seventy Myer says vampires cannot be
dark skins. So I guess theywere just following true to her statements.
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Okay, moving on, Robert Pattinson'sgoing to be a dead Oh yeah,
have we talked about that. Idon't remember. It's been a while since
we've been on here. Whatever.Like, in the back of my mind,
I feel like he's not a personwho wants kids, but obviously knows
true anything else, I don't think. So, Okay, that's it.
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That's all that's happened. Since we'vebeen gone nothing else. Today we're asking
who should be in the Twilight Showslash, what should the Twilight Show look
like? Since you know that's oncomingso twenty five, I would guess,
so at least we're at the whateverbecause they only announced it like like sometime
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last year, and they only hada writer, and they didn't have any
casting, they didn't have a director, like there was so much stuff missing.
So I don't know, but we'regonna just come up with it ourselves.
We're gonna give them all the ideas. Yeah, and part of that
is we are gonna come up withthe cast singe that we think should happen.
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Yesh, Mine's just all over theplace. Mine's also all over the
place. And they also won't beable to afford these people, Let's be
honest, and like they're so notlike TV actors. Yeah, no,
glad on the same page that Iwas like, oh shit, was I
supposed to No? I just wentwith what my heart wanted me too.
Yeah. But I we also needto talk about like the story. Do
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you think you'd want it to belike the same story or do you think
it should be a continuation of thestory or like a story that exists within
the like Twilight universe. You know. Hm, it's just hard because I
don't want them to do this atall. Yeah, yeah, to be
fair, but I do think itwould be I do think they should recreate
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Twilight, like the first movie asa show. Like maybe not the whole
season has to be that one movieor that one story, but I do
think it'd be interesting to see ita little more drawn out, to like
have it not be as rushed,you know, yeah, like get more
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of their interactions and all those likecar conversations where they're asking each other about
their favorite movies and stuff. Thoughthat could also get boring, but I
think it'd be interesting to see ifyou like, gave their relationship more time
to develop, like what it wouldlook like. Yeah. But also,
like in the book, it's onlylike a month, yeah and whatever,
so it's like I guess each episodeis just a new day. Yeah.
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I do think a show would beinteresting with like all the if they like
just told all the movies like inshow form, and then how that would
seem back to back in terms ofthe timeline because the timeline is only like
a year and a half or whatever. Yeah, So it'd be like,
oh, I know, and I'mI don't know. I'm very curious what
they are going to do with that, just because like like I kind of
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feel like they should just do acontinuation of the story somehow, or like,
I don't know, choose new carebecause I think my biggest thing with
not wanting well, there's a lotof reasons we don't want the new show.
One of them is like I don'twant them to interfere with Cannon and
what we already know of the Twilightuniverse, Like don't retell Bella and Edward
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story. We already have it,Like I don't need it, Sure,
I do think it would be interestingto see like just more like breaking down
continued, like yeah, where didthey pick up and especially with like Jacob
and Renesme and that whole thing.That's what I'm saying. It's like,
would you I would rather see that? Yeah, It's like, do you
want to show about like Jacob andRenesme or just like the other characters,
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or do you like then focus iton Edward and Bella's marriage. I don't
know. There's a lot of possibilities. I'm very curious where, like what
direction they're gonna do. Mm,what did they do with High School Musical?
That's a great question and I couldn'tanswer that. I feel like it's
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the same, right, Yeah,Like they just make a new plot,
but like the same premise maybe becauseisn't it this? Is it not the
same characters? Oh no, it'sdifferent characters. Richard Bowen, Olivia Rodrigu
play someone called Nini. I don'tknow. Okay, so maybe that's not
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the blueprint. What's it going tobe streaming on? Do we know anything?
Like it's any of that decided atall? We only know the writer
and then we know lions Gate islike, you know, the person putting
it on. But I don't thinkwe know you know, who's bought it
because they probably won't sell it toa network until they have a pilot.
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So and as we know, theyhaven't hired anyone else. I just think
it's no matter what, it's goingto be so cringing. Yeah, And
I think that's a consensus within thelike fandom is just don't change something that's
already good, you know, yeah, yeah, And it's just like I
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don't know, granted, we're recasting, and I think it's kind of funny
to think about that. It's funnywhen we do it. Yeah, it's
cube when we do it. Thatis our motto for everything. But like
it's like Bella is Kristen Stewart.But okay, anyway, we could complain
about this all day, right,But I don't know. I do think
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it to wrap it up, Ido think it would be more fun to
like play with a plot that hasn'tbeen written out yet or like work with
I think so. I think thatwould make the most sense with the place
that the fandom is as well,because I think, like again comparing us
to like the Harry Potter fans forexample, like I feel like Harry Potter
fans could maybe get a retelling ofwell, but like if you think about
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like the Harry Potter series, likethey've done so many spin offs that exist
in that universe. It's like,because you already have a universe setup,
maybe you just stay in the universe. But are we going to be interested
if we have different character I don't. I don't know. It would be
cool if they did more with theVULTI yeah, that's true, but I
just I picture that being like cheesyand not in like Disney Villain, rather
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than like, yeah, it's justit's not gonna be the same. I
could see like a prequel type deal. Oh that we like if it was
about Jane's story. Honestly, itis so interested in that. Okay,
I like where we're going with this. Yes, I think like that could
be a very good possibility of justlike establishing some characters that were kind of
in the background, Like we don'tknow a lot about Emmett. Now what
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I watch an entire show about it. Yeah, probably, well even just
like like a lot of what weget in Midnight Sun from Edward and like
how the Colon family was formed.I think that would be cool to say.
Okay, honestly, if the showis about Carlisle, Yeah, yeah,
we need to pitch this, dude. We're coming up with the good
ideas we need to write this,and then what genre are we thinking?
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Like should it say a drama,should it be a romance? Or should
they do what like every prequel istrying to do right now and make it
a comedy. I feel like theymight try to make it a comedy.
I think that's what I'm I thinkthat's what I'm afraid of. And when
I talk about it being cringy.I'm afraid of them, like yeah,
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because weird because it's going to beself aware at that point, right,
Like, but I think it'd becooler if it was like a drama,
like if it was set up likeyou know, like The Crown or like
Succession. Yeah, like I wouldlove it to be like even almost a
little darker than the Twilight saga.Yeah, like White lotusy, Yeah,
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like an HBO drama because I reallythink what they will probably try to do
is like aim this towards kids,which I think, like kids don't care
like we do. I'm curious,Yeah, I'm kind of curious if they're
going to try to get the nextgeneration into Twilight or if they're gonna like
just try to cater to us asadults. Because if they were, I
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mean like if it was truly likea dark drama series about Carlisle kind of
sharp objects ye m m, likethat's exactly what I think, in like
sharp objects and like big little liesall day, that'd be crazy. I
mean, like, really, coleKan, why not as Bella. She
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isn't who I chose, but Ialmost did make her asth make because she
is such like mother energy. Ido get that Asme is such a like
background character that honestly, Yeah,we'll talk about that later. I like
in terms of remake, like obviously, remix are so hot right now,
which is so annoying. And Ithink the best example recently of that is
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Mean Girls, because people have beensaying that movie sucks ass, I kind
of want to see it. Ithink I only have I have interest in
it. What I like Renee rap. Yeah, and I also like Tina
Fey still in it in producing it, yeah, and I like trust Tina
Fade to an extent. Yeah.I think some people like it, but
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I think the general consensus is like, what did you do this? Yeah,
I'm not a musical person, soI don't I don't really care about
that part, but I do thinkit would be like, like I could
see it if it's kind of bad, I could see me like laughing at
it. Yeah, I think itwould be entertaining. But like as that
as an example, like they remadeit. Obviously, it's a musical,
so it's kind of a different thing, and it's based on the musical that
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was on Broadway, so you know, it's kind of convoluted, but they
made it very gen Z esque,like obviously, like I think they said
it present day. They obviously gaveit a pretty diverse cast. They kept
the characters' personalities the same, butthey did definitely make it like more gen
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Z friendly, which, yeah,I feel like a lot of the jokes
are going to be very like whoayes, which I'm kind of like,
I don't. I know. Partof Me and Girls is like some of
it is problematic. Yeah, it'slike just of the time and we can
leave it there. That's a bigthing with Twilight too, obviously. It's
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just like we can't like remake itfrom and we've talked about this a million
times, but it's like it iswhat it is and we can't analyze it
and talk about it now. Butlike do we really need to like fix
it? Yeah, and if we'regonna fix it, like should seventy mier
then fix you know, all theshit she did to the Quilio try probably
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right, But just an example asan example of like what remakes look like
right now, I feel like I'mnot feeling good. Yeah, I don't.
It's like there's a lack of originalityand then yeah, and then again
it's a question of like who areyou catering this for it? Like is
the point to like get a youngeraudience. But then it's like, but
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like the nostalgia is coming from peoplein their like thirties, like twenties and
thirties, so like, what dowe do in because you're no longer catering?
Like I don't know, I meanmaybe they are a little bit.
Again, we haven't seen Wonka orthe Mean Girls movie, so whatever,
but from what I've heard, butthere's a reason why we haven't seen them.
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Yeah, and it's because we're like, what is this necessary? Yeah,
which you know, we know consumerismis whatever? What I mean?
Yeah, So here's the other question. Then, do you think it should
be set when Twilight was set,so like two thousand whatever or when it
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came out, which is two thousandand six seven ish, or modern day
without thinking about what the studio isgoing to do because we know they're gonna
make it modern day probably, butI think we're going with the whole like
we want more history and like,yeah, that's true. I think it's
going to be set in like nineteenhundred, ye know, and that would
be cool, which would be sick. I mean, the nineties are having
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a moment right now. A lotof like the errors are coming backs.
Yeah, Like I think a periodpiece basically would put Carlo and some like
wide like trousers in the eighties zone. But like I don't want I think
so much of what makes Twilight funis like and just stuff from that time.
It's like the technology where it's likeHillary Duff with her cell phone typing
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laugh out, like it's like youruin it when it's like Bella would have
found out he's a vampire in liketwo seconds via you know, smartphone,
Yeah, Bella's action. What abouton TikTok? Yeah, And like instead
she's just she's gotta go to alibrary in a town an hour away.
Yeah, and god forbid you putlike smartphones in their hands, right,
I don't want to know, butI don't. And it's like, what
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do you even do with a smartphonewhen you're like an immortal creature? Oh
my god, that would be miserable. I think it just and even like
like a lot of young adult literaturein general like still kind of sways away
from like talking about cell phones becauseit's like, yeah, like you're literally
on it all the time, andlike there would be no dialogue in a
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novel these days. Yeah, Ithink it's got to be it's got to
be a little older, if notlike when Twilight was actually set older eighteenth
century, right, Bridgerton featuring Carlisleon, Like that's kind of what I
picture, like with the Vulture andeverything. I'm like, show me the
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Roman Empire or even Edward's backstory,like I get that people want. I
don't know. I really don't thinkthe studio is going to do anything without
Edward Orbella. I think they're goingto really struggle for that because obviously they're
like the core of the story.Yeah. I also think that would be
interesting because it would be like here'spandemic from the twentieth century, but like
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vampire edition. That'd be weird.But I don't know if I want that.
Yeah, I don't know. Ithink, like post pandemic, I
just don't want to hear about it. I'm sorry, I don't know,
But like imagine, I mean,if they made like Carlisle and Esme's story,
I know Esme is kind of newerto the group, so I don't
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think like far back. Yeah,I think so, Yeah, because Edward's
actually a little bit older than esmeweird. Yeah that's yuck. But yeah,
they both had the influenza tough.But because I think you do have
to have a romance aspect to it, Like obviously I don't think you can
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take that away. So if wedid Carlisle story, like we need to
watch him like go through a woman, which I'm kind of down for.
Yeah, okay, he can listen, he can, he can, and
he did, he can. That'sactually Canada. Any Yeah, honestly it
should just it's fifty Shades Okay,but now I'm realizing that fifty Shades was
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also Toilight. But like yeah,if they like just made it really obvious
that like they just readed fifty Shadesbut with vampires, and then it's like
they just keep going with that connection, I think is what needs to happen.
I do think the funniest thing thatthey could do with the show is
if it was at like present oryou know whatever. I do think they
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should have references to fifty Shades ofGray, like just to be funny,
like really subtle, but like rightlike it's like on someone's bedside table.
Yeah, like if you're gonna doit, then do it, you know.
Yeah, if you're gonna be metaabout it, lean in, lean
into it, all right, Solet's talk about a couple of the other
little details. In terms of soundtrack. We've talked a lot about like what
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we would do for the soundtracks,but like we've talked about like ending the
soundtracks in a way, what shouldthe soundtrack be like in a twenty twenty
five twenty twenty six show. Mymind immediately goes to I watched the Summer
I Turned Pretty, which is onPrime I think, and it's very like
coming of age and it's set inlike modern time, so it makes sense.
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But like the whole entire soundtrack waslike Olivia Rodrigou or Taylor Swift,
and then there was like a randomlike Nirvana song or Smashing Pumpkins or something
while they were it was like theprom scene, and I was like,
this feels weird. But I thinkI'm also thinking about Batman with Robert Pattinson
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and how they played Nirvana in that, and that really landed there. So
part of me is immediately like thinkingof like Carlyle and the Rain, and
like we have some like navites grungechapters for sure, but I think in
terms of like modern artists. Idon't know, you know, who's big
right now. I do think OliviaRoto Rico would be like obviously because I
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think she'd want like to be inthe soundtrack mainly, But I also like
don't know which of her songs reallymakes that much like again, and it
depends how you envision the show,because it's like, is it still dark,
is it still grungy, or isit like more modern and poppy and
like, you know, TV tendsto be stereotyping, but TV tends to
be a little less like indie andgrungy or whatever, So it depends how
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you see it. I think Paramorewould come back or something. I do
think that makes sense. Yeah,it's like do we want to keep the
music the same? But also Idon't think that music would land that well
today just because that genre has notlike necessarily had its comeback moment. Yeah,
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so I'm curious if they go forlike, I don't know, I
mean, the two thousands are kindof making their way back right now,
which is also weird because yeah,like two thousands was a lot of pop
stuff, but I was like poppunk, yeah, which was weird.
That was so weird watching One TreeHill and like literally Pete Wentz is like
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a cast member because they were sobig. Oh my god. Yeah,
I don't know. I feel liketwo thousands esthetic Lee is coming back in
terms of like fashion, but Idon't think like the little TikTok girls are
going to be into a fallout boynecessarily probably not. They're too old,
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So I don't know. The musicone's hard for me to see because,
yeah, I think if it's likecatered more towards gen Z, they would
do a lot of like pop artistsright now, Yeah, which I don't
even like Billie Eilish. I couldsee her doing something cool, yeah,
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like she did for Barbie. Yeah, I could see her, but I
would want it to be more likebanned. Yeah, with like that two
thousands callback. Yeah, And againit's like it's a question of are they
gonna want to do that or arethey gonna just try to cater this for
like I mean truly, it's likewho's the demo for this show? And
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we don't know, so we're justmaking assumptions like we always do. I
did write in my notes when wetalked about this, what if boy Genius
did a song? Yeah, Icould see that, Yeah, see,
and that would really fit again ifwe went for like a like a again
sharp objects, big little lie likethat kind of vibe of especially Julian I
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think just sad. But yeah,I don't know that would be sick though
I can see Boy Genius, eventhough they're about to dismantle briefly. Who
else is big in rock right now? I don't know fall Up Boys kind
of having a mini moment, butbarely. I think Paramour obviously, even
though they just like split with labelsso they're kind of in limbo right now.
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They did just win Best Rock Album. Oh that's true. Yeah,
we're recording this the night of theGrammys, so we've got some fresh updates
for you. Yeah, I don'tknow, fucking I'm just like bands we're
going to which that would kind ofslay like some like grungey like Mama.
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Yeah, but like but like theywouldn't I know, this is what I
want. I would want like girlgrunge. Yeah, of course, I
just don't know. We can leavethe one as a little little question mark,
but I do think they'd probably aimfor like pop rock, and they
probably wouldn't go too crazy with it. But whatever aesthetic should it have the
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blue tint it should or brown tint. I don't know, actually again,
and I keep thinking of it aslike the period piece with Carl, like
that mood that we set up,where we were like, this is what
we would do. And I thinkI don't want the blue tint. I
think I would. I think thatwould kind of if the show was good
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and like a good real drama,I think the blue tint would be distracting
from that. Yeah, I'm justI like, again, I think one
of my worries is that it's gonnabe like this big Hollywood production and everything's
gonna be so like clean cut andwhatever whatever, and like I keep envisioning
like the Mean Girl's movie where it'sjust like so nice and it's like,
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I don't know, but like partof the reason people like the first Twilight
so much, and we've talked aboutthis is because it's like kind of weird
and wonky and indie. You know, Catherine Hardwicke took some choices. I
just have trouble seeing a whole showgetting away with that. Yeah, I
agree, I mean, but Idon't know. I mean, like because
I lost a little bit of sparkfor tho those last like three movies just
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because like you lose a lot oflike personality and it's not I don't know,
I agree. I just think doingthe show in general is yes,
like has lost the personality already.Yes, so I think the blue tint
would just be like you're stretching forsomething that you can't have. Yeah,
I don't know. I just don'tknow if Twilight can have, Like I
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don't know if Twilight has the remakequality that other like universes in Sagas do.
Because we were talking about high schoolmusical, Like that's just like a
high school that sings a lot,right, you can make that and that
and it's so easy to do forkids, yeah, of course, Like
it's just like yeah, like whocares who the characters are? Yeah,
and that's like a new generation ofpeople too, because like we were the
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demo for like high school musical originallyand we're not watching the show, but
like this like young people I guessare, So you know, that worked
out. And for the Harry Potterthing, like Harry Potter is just like
a magic universe and so like youcan just do a bunch of different characters
in that universe. But Twilight's alittle bit more confined because it's just like,
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oh, vampires exist, and there'slike, yeah, the Vampire Police.
But it's like the Poll of vanor the Poll of Twilight was the
romance and these two characters that arevery very specific people. Yeah, it
was more about the people and thecharacters and like especially like Bella being someone
that we could relate to. Yeah, and then it's the real world,
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but there's vampires. So it's almostlike like I as like a twelve year
old could convince myself like maybe EdwardCollin exists somewhere somewhere if I moved to
Oregon. Yes, but I think, yeah, like the there isn't a
universe outside of just like outside ofthe really yeah, because it's like also
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like and we know the universe existsin other places, but it's like it's
not it's just not a very biguniverse that we know of, because like
I mean, even when like Carlisleinvited all of his homies and breaking down,
it's like that's still a pretty smallgroup. Granted, the Vulture is
huge, but like I don't knowif we could withstand a show about the
Vulture. Yeah, and like it'snot a lot of what we know about
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it is so like from exposition andnot like central to the plot and like
central to what you get out ofit. Yeah. That like like I
could see a writer coming in andbeing like, Okay, this is like
the bare bones of what we knowabout the Vulture and like now let me
add to it, but like itdoesn't concretely exist. Yeah, and the
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Vulture to me are just like andagain, you could probably make a storyline
where they're not just like two D, but they are kind of too D
to me. They're just like thevillains. Yeah, like Arrow just likes
power, and I'm sure like Arrowhas an interesting backstory, but like is
he a complex person? Were theygiven? No? And a lot of
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his backstories isn't in the movies atleast, Yeah, So like so I
don't know, It's just it wouldbasically be like creating a universe that has
sort of existed, but like noone's actually fully created it in like a
(31:19):
visual form. Yeah, and likeagain we only know and this is true
with most, this is true witheverything. But it's like we only know
the Twilight Universe as it relates toBella and Edward, which again is true
with like Harry Potter and fucking anythingelse. But like again, like those
are like completely made up worlds,whereas at least the Twilight world is restricted
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to like the real world plus allthese vampire logistics. Yes, so I
don't know. So we are pleadinglines Gate, please don't make this.
If you do, come talk tous. Okay, yeah, my number
is Okay, let's get to thefun part. Huh. Yeah, Okay,
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so we don't want the show tohappen, but we did come up
with a cast of people who wewould want to put down in this show.
And I was sort of even thinkinglike if I could just like put
people in the Twilight movie, Yeah, who would I do? Yeah,
And to be fair, we saidthis in the beginning. We're not confined
to money, We're not confined tolevels of fame or A listers, B
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listers, We're not confined to anythingreally height Yeah, I don't know.
Purely vibes. Purely vibes. Thisis just who we could envision for these
characters without any of the logistics ofHollywood. Okay, we're just little girls,
so small all right. This isalso gonna be kind of hard for
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like an audio listener, I know, So maybe we'll do like a Twitter
thread of these people's faces. SoI was gonna say when I was thinking,
I was on a walk earlier andI was like, what should I
say in the podcast in a coupleof hours, And I was like,
Jetta's pigs are going to be somuch more niche than they're not super niche,
Like a lot of them are wellknown, but like there's some in
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here, Like I mean, myBella is like not a person I would
know by name for example, forexample, my Bella I chose is I'm
going to butcher. So many ofthese names too, That's the other thing.
Daniella Melchoir, Melcore, Okay,what is she in? She is
in the Suicide Squad. Okay,don't ask me who she was because I
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don't remember. She's in the Fastten movie, like the Fast and Furious
ten movie. She's in the AssassinClub, Garden, Guardians of the Galaxy.
She's like the But my thought hereand I think the other hard part
is casting people who look like they'rein high school. Yeah, which I
just kind of threw out the window. I mean kind of no, I
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get you, Like this girl's twentyseven, but she could maybe look like
a high schooler if you really youknow, just pretended right in the way
that like they made the pretty LittleLiar's cast. Yeah, exactly. But
she's like stunning because like I loveChristin Sewer and I think she's so interesting.
But when she was like eight,like seventeen eighteen, like when the
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cast here, I was just like, she just looks like a little girl,
which is fine, but if Edward'sgonna be so obsessed with her,
I'm gonna pick a model girls.And this girl is so beautiful. She's
like she's Portuguese, like pale skin, brown hair, same like vague features
as Bella. So that's how Ichose look her up. Do you want
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to do your Edward too? Andthen I'll do my Bella and Edward?
Okay, sure. For my Edward, I went with Charles Melton, who
I love. Okay, Charles Meltonwas he was just in something huge and
I'm trying to think of what itwas. The name's familiar. Yeah,
you'll recognize him. He is likean Asian American actor because we're going with
diversity. Oh yeah, I lovethis guy. I think he's so in
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Riverdale. Yeah, he's in Riverdale. What was he just in. I
don't know, he's just in somethingelse, but he's mainly in Riverdale.
I think that's what most people recognizehim for. But he's so attractive.
I will say he is thirty threeyears old. But if he's in Riverdale
real like girl, then he cando high school. Okay, yeah,
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no, he looks jock esque.No, yeah, but he's so handsome.
Okay, he looked great with somesparkles. Yeah no, I like
that. I have to do minetogether. Okay, So my Edward and
bella package deal is Paul mez Calland Daisy Edgar Jones because they started normal
people together. You can't do apre existing couple who already exist. Love
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them so much. Okay, Paulmes Call would like as Edward, but
he's like, like, I lovedon't get wrong, I love him.
He's so hot. I don't thinkhe's got the perfect thing going on.
So I kind of agree. Thiswas me just being like, if I
could make if Edward Colin is likemy perfect man insert pal. Okay,
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and this is what I mean byI went purely off of just like my
first Yeah, I can tell.I was like, I love these I
do think Daisy Agreer Jones, wouldI could see her, I could see
her for her. I don't knowabout that one. He looks like a
human, you know, and Ilove him. I love him. I
do think he would get a littleweird looking if like you took away his
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like scruffiness. Yeah. I justthink like trying to put him in like
a like he's not as polished,yeah, but like in a way that
we like, you know, nooffense of Paul Mascow, please call us,
I will say, like as alike when I was kind of brainstorming,
I was, and this is suchan obvious boring pick, but I
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was like Edward and Bella, likeyou could go with Jenna Ortega and Jacob
Elordi but the height difference, butactually because that's the room. Oh yeah,
so that was Remember that was likeliterally a person being like I want
them. Okay, I saw iton the internet, but I think,
like if you're talking about relevant likepeople, but like also Jacob Elordi,
like I could see him as Edward. I don't know if I could see
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Jenner or Tag as Bella. Iagree, like she tends to play like
kind of snappy characters and I justdon't think that's Bella. Also, the
height difference would actually be insane,Like I think Jenner r Take is like
five foot, didn't Jacob six seven? Yeah, that was crazy learning that
on Saturday Night Live. Yeah,he's as tall as Hosier. It's crazy.
I saw a guy in the busthe other day who gave me Hosier
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vibes and call me, call meeveryone, call us please, Oh my
god, all right, who doyou got for? Jacob? Jacob was
a little bit harder. This washard, and I'll be honest that I
like didn't fully decide because I wasjust like, I want this to just
be someone like accurate to the tribe. Yeah I am exactly yeah, But
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then I didn't want to be like, oh, like boo boo Stewart when
like he's already I know, yeah, so I did, just I care
more about the ethics of this thanlike, no, exactly own And I
think realistically, like you would justgo for like someone who hasn't necessarily been
discovered yet, yes, like who'syou know, indigenous, and like whatever,
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I did just choose Forrest good Luckjust because he's like a semi relevant
Indigenous actor. I don't quite thinkhe has the look for it, but
you know, just in terms ofpeople who you might vaguely know, which
I don't think that many people knowhim. Yeah, so well, because
I just google, I would likewas googling like indigenous actors. Yeah,
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and then all of them were justlike people already in Twilight. Yeah,
they were all already in Twilight.Or they're usually like older people, right,
and there's a there's more woman thanlike younger men. Yeah, that
was the other problems. I canfind someone who worked for the age,
right, because he's supposed to bea little younger than everyone too, so
I don't know he was a harderone. Let's find someone new, Let's
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discover someone reparation reparations. Sorry,that was kind of anti climactic. Should
we talk about since we're talking aboutRenesme or since we're talking about Jacob,
Should we talk about Renesme? Didyou do as? I didn't? But
okay, so I did one justbecause I thought I saw someone I was
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like, Couldesme? This would bea grown up Reneesme. And again this
would be more so if we dida continuation of their story. Us thinking
Sadie sinc mm. I like hera lot. She's very talented. She's
like a younger looking person. Ilike that. But yeah, that's all
I got for that. No,that's good. I didn't think of one,
so I'll just tak it. Yeah, I mean we were kind of
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sticking to the first movie only,so whatever. I'll second that though.
Great, who do you got next? Next? I have Jess for and
Alice. Okay, again, thisis just this was me just being funny
for the first few Okay, notfunny necessarily, but I think Timothy Shallime
would be oh my god, hilarious. No, that would be so I
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would be obsessed with that because Ifeel like he has the vibe. Right,
that's good, dude. And Alice. Alice took me a long time
because then I was like, lolKylie Jenner not actually just I was like,
let me just insert all these realcouples. Yeah, but I was
like, Alice is like hard becauseshe needs to be like manic pixie dream
girl. Ease. So I pickedEmma Mackie. I think that's my same
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name. She plays Mave in SexEducation. Oh okay, I think she
would see that. Yeah, shecan be a little okay interesting, Okay,
she's like young enough and no,yeah, for sure. Again,
that was like one of the hardestthings I think, picking people who could
be like theoretically in high school eventhough they don't look like they're in high
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school, you know. So Iwas like, I can't pick someone in
the thirties, even though I didpick people in there. Whatever. No,
it was hard, Yeah, especiallyfor like the people who are the
parents. Yeah, I don't know, Yeah, because it's like you could
look like you're as old as youYeah, like Carlisle's supposed to be twenty
three, but he's also like forty. I don't know, I don't know.
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This is hard whatever. For AlisonJasper, I went a little off
the rails, okay, and that'sokay. I said, we need more
diversity in this cast, and Jaspercanonically cannot be a Confederate in my eyes.
If we're going to redo this,let's redo it right. So for
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Jasper, it shows Mason Gooding,who looks like this, Okay? Is
he in? Is that the guyfrom BookSmart? I believe, so let
me read his He's also in Screamthe newer ones. He's in Love Victor,
he is in Yes, he's inBookSmart. Very attractive man. And
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yeah, I was just like,you know what, I didn't like Jessper
from the beginning. To make himsomeone completely new, No exactly, and
am I allowed to do that?I don't know, but this is my
theoretical world. And then to pairwith him, I said Chloe Bailey,
who just played Little Mermaid. Yeah, I feel like she could be like
quirky if she wanted to. Butagain, I just like we need some
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diversity, you guys, I justthink that would be fun. So yeah,
I don't have a lot of greatreasoning behind that other than yeah,
that's what I wanted. Okay,sorry, guys, you want to do
Rosalie and Emmett, Yeah, Okay, Rosalie I think is just funny.
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It's not actually funny, but it'sjust funny because I chose Suki Waterhouse.
Okay, who is who is with? But I watched she was in Daisy
Jones and The Six and I've justlike had a Suki Waterhouse moment where I
think she's like, she's very gorgeous. She is a really great woman.
She definitely looks older. Yeah,but like, Rosalie to me is just
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like so fierce, and I wantedher to be just like, not like
basic fierce, and choose like ajust like who's the hot blonde in Hollywood
right now? I want it tobe someone with like a little more artistry,
fair, but then Emmett completely justsomeone who I think is hot and
have liked. I chose Miles Teller. Miles Teller, that's fun, okay,
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but I think they're like a weirdpairing. I mean, sure,
but that's okay. I feel likeEmmett in the original movie what's his face
is kind of you know, nomeans to him. I think he's a
great fellow. I do feel likehe's maybe the least hot of the group,
and I think we could improve onthat. Okay, So speaking a
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funny casting for Emmett, I didchoose Will Polter, who I love.
He's kind of an it boy rightnow. He looks like he could be
in high school and I think hecould just beef up a little bit.
And he looked great for this part. He's just such a cutie. He's
also like he like kind of famouslyplays like dumb guys, which I love
and I think would fit so wellfor Emmett. He's like famously in Were
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the Millers as like the dumb son. He's in Midsommar, which I love.
He's in the Revenant, so likehe can girl can act. And
then I chose Hunter Schaeffer for Rosalie. I think she's like such the egg
girl. She's like so pretty andlike yeah, and she like, you
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know, she plays a high schoolerin Euphoria, So I'm like, I
think she's and I think, like, I don't know, she hasn't been
in like that much stuff, likemainly Euphoria, but I do feel like
she could play like a mean Rosalie, like a mean in the way like
we love her, she deserves tobe mean, right, So that's what
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I got. Who else we have? Who? I only have? Like
two more? Okay? I diddo Bella's parents, So I did Charlie.
I did not do okay, butI did Carlisle as May Charlie and
Renee. Okay, I did Charlieand Carlisle. Okay, because fuck the
woman. Anyways, who do you? Who do you have for Charlie and
(45:28):
okay Charlie. I did David borianIs or how we say his name,
but he he plays agent Booth andBones. Okay, I know who this
is. He's in a Buffy Yeah, yeah, Agel. I was just
like he played he's an FBI agent. No, yeah, I see that
dad energy. That's a good choice. And then Renee, since I just
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Catherine Hahn or Hand or whatever hername is, I have recognize that name
because I just think Renee is likecan be said, he could be such
a funny character. Yeah, Imean, if we're gonna have like a
comedia moment, and I like loveher, she's so funny. She but
she also played a really serious role. Remember that show we watched, I
(46:12):
forget what it's called, but wherelike her husband, they were on some
like residency in the desert and shewas obsessed with Kevin Bacon. Yeah.
Yeah, Like she was really goodin that. But then she also is
like in a lot of comedies,so I think she'd be a fun like
aloof Oh, that's a good choice. Like I said, didn't do because
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whatever for Charlie, I said,Brendan Fraser, he's having quite the moment
right now, which we love him. He gives me real dad energy.
Yeah, and that's pretty much it. I think you could play a cop.
I don't know if you don't recognizethat name. He just did the
whale. He was the Guy andthe Mummy an icon and he just won
(46:58):
like an Oscar last. I don'tknow he's won awards recently, and I
really I love his comeback. Yeah, I'm rooting for him so he can
be in my Twilight saga. Allright, who do you got for Carlile?
So Carlile was my last pick,and I honestly am not like super
proud of it because I feel likeit's just so like a list okay,
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but for okay, I had likea really big Leo phase when I was
in I did not choose Leo though, okay, and I was like,
I can't choose Leo, but Iwas like, I also looks old these
I know he's not hot anymore.Yeah, and like the person I chose
isn't young either, okay, butI was just like, who, Like,
it's just such a commanding character andhonestly, I don't like I want
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more time to think about it.When I landed on Matthew McConaughey is awful,
but I chose Anne Hathaway for Esmeand I think an Anne Matthew Combo
is such like cult energy, soCulty and I just think his like the
(48:10):
like characters he gets into where he'slike real wise and stuff. I just
think it could work, but Idon't know. Man, Like I really
struggled with Carliles. Yeah, Carlileis hard because he has to be like
a hot doctor, but he alsocan't look super old. But he also
is older. Yeah, I waslike, I'm just gonna lean in and
(48:32):
be like he's supposed to be thedad, Like, let him be old.
He's he is dad. I wouldsee MoU Leo, who was just
in the Barbie movie. He wasjust he's what Marvel person is he?
I don't know whatever, he's aMarvel guy, but like he's super hot.
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He's already fit from the Barbie movie, so also super relevant. Plus
like again, just if we're gonnaI already know they're gonna do the diversity
thing, so let's just do it. Okay, that's real, Just lean
into it. I know they're gonnaadd like, you know, one of
each you know, well that's whateveryone does. And I get it.
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Listen, I get it. I'mnot as a person who is not white,
I appreciate the representation. However,sometimes it is a little obvious when
it's like, oh, we needto we need a bunch of white characters
and then just one Asian, oneblack person, maybe one Hispanic person.
Okay, just cover all your bases, get them all done. I'm gonna
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like, I'm gonna let that onesit and I'm gonna redo that one by
the time we record another episode.Okay, But I was I had picked
Anne Hathaway because I was, like, she's so mother to me. Yeah,
and I just I wanted someone whowould like go well with Anne Hathaway.
And that's like what it is hardthought about the most. Yeah,
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I don't know. I mean,like, and the reason I didn't do
Renee or Esme is just because likethey're so background characters, which I wish
they weren't. I think like Reneecould have been such an interesting addition,
and like, hey, if wewant to give Bella some therapy, like
let's have more Renee, let's talkabout like why and Charlie's not an angel
whatever, but like Asme especially sucha just like whatever character, which is
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fine, I guess. But line'sgate. If you can put together the
money for these insane lineups, MatthewMcConaughey is probably gonna blow your entire You
should probably call us and we'll Idon't know. I mean, we already
put it out there, so wejust gave them all our ideas for free.
(50:47):
Yeah we should maybe, well we'llsend this to the studio. Well,
hey, whatever, you know what, and if, honestly, if
the cast comes back and we haveat least fifty percent of it, then
we'll know. Yeah, then we'llknow they listen. I know Catherine Hardwick
is just typing in Twilight into thelisten to our podcast. I do think
(51:13):
she would. She's been on likesome like other Twilight podcasts. We got
to remember when we first started inan emailed Stephanie Meyer's agent. Yeah,
maybe they'd get back to us now. Yeah, two time winning Best of
Madison, they're like, where's Madison? Madison? Nominations are open for Best
of Madison? You really, however, give a shit. I can't believe
(51:36):
it's already time to do that again, So no pressure, but it does
exist. Yeah. Am I evengonna nominate us? I don't know.
Maybe if I remember one random day, I'll do it. But every day.
Anything else to add about the TwilightShow, anything else you want to
tell Lionsgate. Just like Jen andI I have a lot of ideas.
(52:00):
So and the biggest one is tojust not do this right. So we're
gonna not do this one, hireus to do something else. Yes,
because we are nothing if not themost satirical of entrepreneurs. Yes, we
love money, we love capital,we love stocks, the free market,
(52:22):
we love the freekowers. Yes,it like quite literally belongs to us.
Again only qute when we do it. Yeah, exactly. And with that,
we should probably follow us on Twitter. We're at say It Out Loud
podcasts. We're also on Instagram moreso than Twitter these days, because you
know, no one uses Twitter anymore. Whatever, we're at siol pod on
(52:46):
Instagram. We should follow us.I honestly think our podcast or I think
our Instagram might be funnier than ourTwitter these days. I don't know.
We're getting there. I'm pretty impressedwhen we're getting there, the things that
you come up with. We've gota little one thing on our great going.
Please follow us, please, asif you could outrun me just hard
(53:14):
stopped, as if you could fightme off see out sound Vampire
Because I think you do have tohave a romance aspect to it, Like
obviously, I don't think you cantake that away. So if we did
Carlisle story, like we need towatch him like go through a woman,
which I'm kind of down for.Yeah, Okay, he can listen,
he can, he can and hedid, he caned he did. That's
actually the canon. Yeah, Iknew what you are. Tyheart's in recovery
(00:24):
and recovery. See I simply cannotlook at an apple the same way anymore.
See it. Twilight just had sucha grip on so many people.
See See Out the twy Hard RecoveryClub podcast, Empire, break Out the
Sparkle. The Twilight saga is gettingthe television treatment, as sources tell The
(00:47):
Hollywood Reporter that a series version ofauthor Stepanie Meyer's best selling book series is
in early development via Lionsgate Television.Quite the run on, Huh that was
one SI bad Well, I getlike break Out the Sparkle was its own
sentence after that. Hello, thisis welcome to the Saying Aloud Podcast.
(01:10):
My name is Jenna from Z oneO four. My name's Alyssa. I
edit the news and this episode probablywon't sound that different. But just for
the listener, I want you toknow that we have you know, six
seven studios in this building, butnone of them were working for us today.
(01:33):
So what we're doing right now iswe are downstairs in the basement and
I am in one room and thenAlyssa is in a different room, and
there's a piece of glass between us. But we are solid, like twenty
feet away. It's pretty farm andseparated by a wall. Yeah, it's
real bunker vibes do here. We'rejust staying safe, you know. Yeah,
(01:56):
we're not gonna think about it toomuch, but it is so awkward.
Yeah, but it might make forlike a really funny, silly episode
yay. Yeah, and the contentwill be silly. So so just so
you know, if we're a littledistant today, that's right. The camaraderie
might be off. Yeah, we'llsee. Okay, So it's been a
(02:19):
while since we did an episode whoopsieswhatever. But there are a couple of
things that have happened in the Twilightuniverse, a couple of Twilight collabs to
be more specific. First of all, the Lego set, which has not
come out yet and they haven't actuallydeveloped it yet, but they are officially
working on it, and I thinkwhat happened was like it was like a
(02:42):
fan voted contest I think, okay, where they voted on like a I
don't know, but that one,so that's coming. Do you play with
legos or did you as a child? No? All right, so I
can't personally relate to this. Butmaybe I'll buy like the little figurines that
look like Bella and I'll put itin my mouth. I don't know,
(03:05):
Okay, I'll chew on it.Right. The other Twilight Brian clob that
just happened is obviously the Twilight ColorPop make up palette and like lip oil
and like body oil, like abunch of shit, which sold out in
just a matter of minutes. Idon't know, Lissa, would you would
(03:29):
you get anything from the collection?I like the shades that come in the
eyeshadow palette, but I don't likeI would buy it as a palette,
like separate as a Twilight thing,you know what I mean? Like I
feel like it didn't quite feel aslike have as much range of Twilight as
(03:50):
I wanted. Yeah, there's literallynot a red in it, right,
and like I sort of get itbecause on the packaging, it's like it's
the metal scene or whatever. Butthen the box itself is like white with
like red text, So then youthink it's gonna be at least have like
a little bit of that in there. That doesn't I thought the lip oils
were stupid. Yeah, personally,I don't know interested who was involved in
(04:13):
making those decisions. Yeah, Ifeel like maybe the thought process, and
a lot of other people have kindof pointed this out, is maybe that
they are hoping to do like apalette for every movie slash book potentially,
and so they're like trying to stayaway from like the browns and the reds
because they're saving that for New Moon. But I'm like, I don't think
you come out. I don't know. I just for a first collection to
(04:38):
see how it goes, I wouldput a red in there, yeah,
And I think like that would belike four palettes, and I think it
would lose momentum, Like you haveto space those out pretty far because like
by the time you get to BreakingDawn, it's just like, yeah,
it's like I'll be thirty and Iwon't have a red until yeah Eclipse,
(04:59):
So no, you know, andalso like I don't know, I feel
like the main colors that you woulddo would be from Twilight and the New
Moon, and then after that you'rejust coming up with shit. Yeah,
if it's just like neutrals that arelike Twilight inspired, and then there's like
a couple fun shades, I thinkthat would be a way to go.
Let's do one. Okay, well, we'll make one. I will say
there were also a lot of likeblack creators that we're pointing out that those
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are not very like varying skin colorfriendly shades. That was a very convoluted
way of saying that. But youknow, so right, there's also that
which you know, the vampires arewhite and seventy Myer says vampires cannot be
dark skins. So I guess theywere just following true to her statements.
(05:45):
Okay, moving on, Robert Pattinson'sgoing to be a dead Oh yeah,
have we talked about that. Idon't remember. It's been a while since
we've been on here. Whatever.Like, in the back of my mind,
I feel like he's not a personwho wants kids, but obviously knows
true anything else, I don't think. So, Okay, that's it.
(06:05):
That's all that's happened. Since we'vebeen gone nothing else. Today we're asking
who should be in the Twilight Showslash, what should the Twilight Show look
like? Since you know that's oncomingso twenty five, I would guess,
so at least we're at the whateverbecause they only announced it like like sometime
(06:30):
last year, and they only hada writer, and they didn't have any
casting, they didn't have a director, like there was so much stuff missing.
So I don't know, but we'regonna just come up with it ourselves.
We're gonna give them all the ideas. Yeah, and part of that
is we are gonna come up withthe cast singe that we think should happen.
(06:51):
Yesh, Mine's just all over theplace. Mine's also all over the
place. And they also won't beable to afford these people, Let's be
honest, and like they're so notlike TV actors. Yeah, no,
glad on the same page that Iwas like, oh shit, was I
supposed to No? I just wentwith what my heart wanted me too.
Yeah. But I we also needto talk about like the story. Do
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you think you'd want it to belike the same story or do you think
it should be a continuation of thestory or like a story that exists within
the like Twilight universe. You know. Hm, it's just hard because I
don't want them to do this atall. Yeah, yeah, to be
fair, but I do think itwould be I do think they should recreate
(07:39):
Twilight, like the first movie asa show. Like maybe not the whole
season has to be that one movieor that one story, but I do
think it'd be interesting to see ita little more drawn out, to like
have it not be as rushed,you know, yeah, like get more
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of their interactions and all those likecar conversations where they're asking each other about
their favorite movies and stuff. Thoughthat could also get boring, but I
think it'd be interesting to see ifyou like, gave their relationship more time
to develop, like what it wouldlook like. Yeah. But also,
like in the book, it's onlylike a month, yeah and whatever,
so it's like I guess each episodeis just a new day. Yeah.
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I do think a show would beinteresting with like all the if they like
just told all the movies like inshow form, and then how that would
seem back to back in terms ofthe timeline because the timeline is only like
a year and a half or whatever. Yeah, So it'd be like,
oh, I know, and I'mI don't know. I'm very curious what
they are going to do with that, just because like like I kind of
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feel like they should just do acontinuation of the story somehow, or like,
I don't know, choose new carebecause I think my biggest thing with
not wanting well, there's a lotof reasons we don't want the new show.
One of them is like I don'twant them to interfere with Cannon and
what we already know of the Twilightuniverse, Like don't retell Bella and Edward
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story. We already have it,Like I don't need it, Sure,
I do think it would be interestingto see like just more like breaking down
continued, like yeah, where didthey pick up and especially with like Jacob
and Renesme and that whole thing.That's what I'm saying. It's like,
would you I would rather see that? Yeah, It's like, do you
want to show about like Jacob andRenesme or just like the other characters,
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or do you like then focus iton Edward and Bella's marriage. I don't
know. There's a lot of possibilities. I'm very curious where, like what
direction they're gonna do. Mm,what did they do with High School Musical?
That's a great question and I couldn'tanswer that. I feel like it's
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the same, right, Yeah,Like they just make a new plot,
but like the same premise maybe becauseisn't it this? Is it not the
same characters? Oh no, it'sdifferent characters. Richard Bowen, Olivia Rodrigu
play someone called Nini. I don'tknow. Okay, so maybe that's not
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the blueprint. What's it going tobe streaming on? Do we know anything?
Like it's any of that decided atall? We only know the writer
and then we know lions Gate islike, you know, the person putting
it on. But I don't thinkwe know you know, who's bought it
because they probably won't sell it toa network until they have a pilot.
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So and as we know, theyhaven't hired anyone else. I just think
it's no matter what, it's goingto be so cringing. Yeah, And
I think that's a consensus within thelike fandom is just don't change something that's
already good, you know, yeah, yeah, And it's just like I
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don't know, granted, we're recasting, and I think it's kind of funny
to think about that. It's funnywhen we do it. Yeah, it's
cube when we do it. Thatis our motto for everything. But like
it's like Bella is Kristen Stewart.But okay, anyway, we could complain
about this all day, right,But I don't know. I do think
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it to wrap it up, Ido think it would be more fun to
like play with a plot that hasn'tbeen written out yet or like work with
I think so. I think thatwould make the most sense with the place
that the fandom is as well,because I think, like again comparing us
to like the Harry Potter fans forexample, like I feel like Harry Potter
fans could maybe get a retelling ofwell, but like if you think about
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like the Harry Potter series, likethey've done so many spin offs that exist
in that universe. It's like,because you already have a universe setup,
maybe you just stay in the universe. But are we going to be interested
if we have different character I don't. I don't know. It would be
cool if they did more with theVULTI yeah, that's true, but I
just I picture that being like cheesyand not in like Disney Villain, rather
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than like, yeah, it's justit's not gonna be the same. I
could see like a prequel type deal. Oh that we like if it was
about Jane's story. Honestly, itis so interested in that. Okay,
I like where we're going with this. Yes, I think like that could
be a very good possibility of justlike establishing some characters that were kind of
in the background, Like we don'tknow a lot about Emmett. Now what
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I watch an entire show about it. Yeah, probably, well even just
like like a lot of what weget in Midnight Sun from Edward and like
how the Colon family was formed.I think that would be cool to say.
Okay, honestly, if the showis about Carlisle, Yeah, yeah,
we need to pitch this, dude. We're coming up with the good
ideas we need to write this,and then what genre are we thinking?
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Like should it say a drama,should it be a romance? Or should
they do what like every prequel istrying to do right now and make it
a comedy. I feel like theymight try to make it a comedy.
I think that's what I'm I thinkthat's what I'm afraid of. And when
I talk about it being cringy.I'm afraid of them, like yeah,
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because weird because it's going to beself aware at that point, right,
Like, but I think it'd becooler if it was like a drama,
like if it was set up likeyou know, like The Crown or like
Succession. Yeah, like I wouldlove it to be like even almost a
little darker than the Twilight saga.Yeah, like White lotusy, Yeah,
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like an HBO drama because I reallythink what they will probably try to do
is like aim this towards kids,which I think, like kids don't care
like we do. I'm curious,Yeah, I'm kind of curious if they're
going to try to get the nextgeneration into Twilight or if they're gonna like
just try to cater to us asadults. Because if they were, I
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mean like if it was truly likea dark drama series about Carlisle kind of
sharp objects ye m m, likethat's exactly what I think, in like
sharp objects and like big little liesall day, that'd be crazy. I
mean, like, really, coleKan, why not as Bella. She
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isn't who I chose, but Ialmost did make her asth make because she
is such like mother energy. Ido get that Asme is such a like
background character that honestly, Yeah,we'll talk about that later. I like
in terms of remake, like obviously, remix are so hot right now,
which is so annoying. And Ithink the best example recently of that is
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Mean Girls, because people have beensaying that movie sucks ass, I kind
of want to see it. Ithink I only have I have interest in
it. What I like Renee rap. Yeah, and I also like Tina
Fey still in it in producing it, yeah, and I like trust Tina
Fade to an extent. Yeah.I think some people like it, but
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I think the general consensus is like, what did you do this? Yeah,
I'm not a musical person, soI don't I don't really care about
that part, but I do thinkit would be like, like I could
see it if it's kind of bad, I could see me like laughing at
it. Yeah, I think itwould be entertaining. But like as that
as an example, like they remadeit. Obviously, it's a musical,
so it's kind of a different thing, and it's based on the musical that
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was on Broadway, so you know, it's kind of convoluted, but they
made it very gen Z esque,like obviously, like I think they said
it present day. They obviously gaveit a pretty diverse cast. They kept
the characters' personalities the same, butthey did definitely make it like more gen
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Z friendly, which, yeah,I feel like a lot of the jokes
are going to be very like whoayes, which I'm kind of like,
I don't. I know. Partof Me and Girls is like some of
it is problematic. Yeah, it'slike just of the time and we can
leave it there. That's a bigthing with Twilight too, obviously. It's
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just like we can't like remake itfrom and we've talked about this a million
times, but it's like it iswhat it is and we can't analyze it
and talk about it now. Butlike do we really need to like fix
it? Yeah, and if we'regonna fix it, like should seventy mier
then fix you know, all theshit she did to the Quilio try probably
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right, But just an example asan example of like what remakes look like
right now, I feel like I'mnot feeling good. Yeah, I don't.
It's like there's a lack of originalityand then yeah, and then again
it's a question of like who areyou catering this for it? Like is
the point to like get a youngeraudience. But then it's like, but
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like the nostalgia is coming from peoplein their like thirties, like twenties and
thirties, so like, what dowe do in because you're no longer catering?
Like I don't know, I meanmaybe they are a little bit.
Again, we haven't seen Wonka orthe Mean Girls movie, so whatever,
but from what I've heard, butthere's a reason why we haven't seen them.
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Yeah, and it's because we're like, what is this necessary? Yeah,
which you know, we know consumerismis whatever? What I mean?
Yeah, So here's the other question. Then, do you think it should
be set when Twilight was set,so like two thousand whatever or when it
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came out, which is two thousandand six seven ish, or modern day
without thinking about what the studio isgoing to do because we know they're gonna
make it modern day probably, butI think we're going with the whole like
we want more history and like,yeah, that's true. I think it's
going to be set in like nineteenhundred, ye know, and that would
be cool, which would be sick. I mean, the nineties are having
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a moment right now. A lotof like the errors are coming backs.
Yeah, Like I think a periodpiece basically would put Carlo and some like
wide like trousers in the eighties zone. But like I don't want I think
so much of what makes Twilight funis like and just stuff from that time.
It's like the technology where it's likeHillary Duff with her cell phone typing
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laugh out, like it's like youruin it when it's like Bella would have
found out he's a vampire in liketwo seconds via you know, smartphone,
Yeah, Bella's action. What abouton TikTok? Yeah, And like instead
she's just she's gotta go to alibrary in a town an hour away.
Yeah, and god forbid you putlike smartphones in their hands, right,
I don't want to know, butI don't. And it's like, what
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do you even do with a smartphonewhen you're like an immortal creature? Oh
my god, that would be miserable. I think it just and even like
like a lot of young adult literaturein general like still kind of sways away
from like talking about cell phones becauseit's like, yeah, like you're literally
on it all the time, andlike there would be no dialogue in a
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novel these days. Yeah, Ithink it's got to be it's got to
be a little older, if notlike when Twilight was actually set older eighteenth
century, right, Bridgerton featuring Carlisleon, Like that's kind of what I
picture, like with the Vulture andeverything. I'm like, show me the
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Roman Empire or even Edward's backstory,like I get that people want. I
don't know. I really don't thinkthe studio is going to do anything without
Edward Orbella. I think they're goingto really struggle for that because obviously they're
like the core of the story.Yeah. I also think that would be
interesting because it would be like here'spandemic from the twentieth century, but like
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vampire edition. That'd be weird.But I don't know if I want that.
Yeah, I don't know. Ithink, like post pandemic, I
just don't want to hear about it. I'm sorry, I don't know,
But like imagine, I mean,if they made like Carlisle and Esme's story,
I know Esme is kind of newerto the group, so I don't
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think like far back. Yeah,I think so, Yeah, because Edward's
actually a little bit older than esmeweird. Yeah that's yuck. But yeah,
they both had the influenza tough.But because I think you do have
to have a romance aspect to it, Like obviously I don't think you can
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take that away. So if wedid Carlisle story, like we need to
watch him like go through a woman, which I'm kind of down for.
Yeah, okay, he can listen, he can, he can, and
he did, he can. That'sactually Canada. Any Yeah, honestly it
should just it's fifty Shades Okay,but now I'm realizing that fifty Shades was
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also Toilight. But like yeah,if they like just made it really obvious
that like they just readed fifty Shadesbut with vampires, and then it's like
they just keep going with that connection, I think is what needs to happen.
I do think the funniest thing thatthey could do with the show is
if it was at like present oryou know whatever. I do think they
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should have references to fifty Shades ofGray, like just to be funny,
like really subtle, but like rightlike it's like on someone's bedside table.
Yeah, like if you're gonna doit, then do it, you know.
Yeah, if you're gonna be metaabout it, lean in, lean
into it, all right, Solet's talk about a couple of the other
little details. In terms of soundtrack. We've talked a lot about like what
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we would do for the soundtracks,but like we've talked about like ending the
soundtracks in a way, what shouldthe soundtrack be like in a twenty twenty
five twenty twenty six show. Mymind immediately goes to I watched the Summer
I Turned Pretty, which is onPrime I think, and it's very like
coming of age and it's set inlike modern time, so it makes sense.
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But like the whole entire soundtrack waslike Olivia Rodrigou or Taylor Swift,
and then there was like a randomlike Nirvana song or Smashing Pumpkins or something
while they were it was like theprom scene, and I was like,
this feels weird. But I thinkI'm also thinking about Batman with Robert Pattinson
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and how they played Nirvana in that, and that really landed there. So
part of me is immediately like thinkingof like Carlyle and the Rain, and
like we have some like navites grungechapters for sure, but I think in
terms of like modern artists. Idon't know, you know, who's big
right now. I do think OliviaRoto Rico would be like obviously because I
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think she'd want like to be inthe soundtrack mainly, But I also like
don't know which of her songs reallymakes that much like again, and it
depends how you envision the show,because it's like, is it still dark,
is it still grungy, or isit like more modern and poppy and
like, you know, TV tendsto be stereotyping, but TV tends to
be a little less like indie andgrungy or whatever, So it depends how
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you see it. I think Paramorewould come back or something. I do
think that makes sense. Yeah,it's like do we want to keep the
music the same? But also Idon't think that music would land that well
today just because that genre has notlike necessarily had its comeback moment. Yeah,
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so I'm curious if they go forlike, I don't know, I
mean, the two thousands are kindof making their way back right now,
which is also weird because yeah,like two thousands was a lot of pop
stuff, but I was like poppunk, yeah, which was weird.
That was so weird watching One TreeHill and like literally Pete Wentz is like
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a cast member because they were sobig. Oh my god. Yeah,
I don't know. I feel liketwo thousands esthetic Lee is coming back in
terms of like fashion, but Idon't think like the little TikTok girls are
going to be into a fallout boynecessarily probably not. They're too old,
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So I don't know. The musicone's hard for me to see because,
yeah, I think if it's likecatered more towards gen Z, they would
do a lot of like pop artistsright now, Yeah, which I don't
even like Billie Eilish. I couldsee her doing something cool, yeah,
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like she did for Barbie. Yeah, I could see her, but I
would want it to be more likebanned. Yeah, with like that two
thousands callback. Yeah, And againit's like it's a question of are they
gonna want to do that or arethey gonna just try to cater this for
like I mean truly, it's likewho's the demo for this show? And
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we don't know, so we're justmaking assumptions like we always do. I
did write in my notes when wetalked about this, what if boy Genius
did a song? Yeah, Icould see that, Yeah, see,
and that would really fit again ifwe went for like a like a again
sharp objects, big little lie likethat kind of vibe of especially Julian I
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think just sad. But yeah,I don't know that would be sick though
I can see Boy Genius, eventhough they're about to dismantle briefly. Who
else is big in rock right now? I don't know fall Up Boys kind
of having a mini moment, butbarely. I think Paramour obviously, even
though they just like split with labelsso they're kind of in limbo right now.
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They did just win Best Rock Album. Oh that's true. Yeah,
we're recording this the night of theGrammys, so we've got some fresh updates
for you. Yeah, I don'tknow, fucking I'm just like bands we're
going to which that would kind ofslay like some like grungey like Mama.
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Yeah, but like but like theywouldn't I know, this is what I
want. I would want like girlgrunge. Yeah, of course, I
just don't know. We can leavethe one as a little little question mark,
but I do think they'd probably aimfor like pop rock, and they
probably wouldn't go too crazy with it. But whatever aesthetic should it have the
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blue tint it should or brown tint. I don't know, actually again,
and I keep thinking of it aslike the period piece with Carl, like
that mood that we set up,where we were like, this is what
we would do. And I thinkI don't want the blue tint. I
think I would. I think thatwould kind of if the show was good
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and like a good real drama,I think the blue tint would be distracting
from that. Yeah, I'm justI like, again, I think one
of my worries is that it's gonnabe like this big Hollywood production and everything's
gonna be so like clean cut andwhatever whatever, and like I keep envisioning
like the Mean Girl's movie where it'sjust like so nice and it's like,
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I don't know, but like partof the reason people like the first Twilight
so much, and we've talked aboutthis is because it's like kind of weird
and wonky and indie. You know, Catherine Hardwicke took some choices. I
just have trouble seeing a whole showgetting away with that. Yeah, I
agree, I mean, but Idon't know. I mean, like because
I lost a little bit of sparkfor tho those last like three movies just
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because like you lose a lot oflike personality and it's not I don't know,
I agree. I just think doingthe show in general is yes,
like has lost the personality already.Yes, so I think the blue tint
would just be like you're stretching forsomething that you can't have. Yeah,
I don't know. I just don'tknow if Twilight can have, Like I
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don't know if Twilight has the remakequality that other like universes in Sagas do.
Because we were talking about high schoolmusical, Like that's just like a
high school that sings a lot,right, you can make that and that
and it's so easy to do forkids, yeah, of course, Like
it's just like yeah, like whocares who the characters are? Yeah,
and that's like a new generation ofpeople too, because like we were the
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demo for like high school musical originallyand we're not watching the show, but
like this like young people I guessare, So you know, that worked
out. And for the Harry Potterthing, like Harry Potter is just like
a magic universe and so like youcan just do a bunch of different characters
in that universe. But Twilight's alittle bit more confined because it's just like,
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oh, vampires exist, and there'slike, yeah, the Vampire Police.
But it's like the Poll of vanor the Poll of Twilight was the
romance and these two characters that arevery very specific people. Yeah, it
was more about the people and thecharacters and like especially like Bella being someone
that we could relate to. Yeah, and then it's the real world,
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but there's vampires. So it's almostlike like I as like a twelve year
old could convince myself like maybe EdwardCollin exists somewhere somewhere if I moved to
Oregon. Yes, but I think, yeah, like the there isn't a
universe outside of just like outside ofthe really yeah, because it's like also
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like and we know the universe existsin other places, but it's like it's
not it's just not a very biguniverse that we know of, because like
I mean, even when like Carlisleinvited all of his homies and breaking down,
it's like that's still a pretty smallgroup. Granted, the Vulture is
huge, but like I don't knowif we could withstand a show about the
Vulture. Yeah, and like it'snot a lot of what we know about
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it is so like from exposition andnot like central to the plot and like
central to what you get out ofit. Yeah. That like like I
could see a writer coming in andbeing like, Okay, this is like
the bare bones of what we knowabout the Vulture and like now let me
add to it, but like itdoesn't concretely exist. Yeah, and the
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Vulture to me are just like andagain, you could probably make a storyline
where they're not just like two D, but they are kind of too D
to me. They're just like thevillains. Yeah, like Arrow just likes
power, and I'm sure like Arrowhas an interesting backstory, but like is
he a complex person? Were theygiven? No? And a lot of
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his backstories isn't in the movies atleast, Yeah, So like so I
don't know, It's just it wouldbasically be like creating a universe that has
sort of existed, but like noone's actually fully created it in like a
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visual form. Yeah, and likeagain we only know and this is true
with most, this is true witheverything. But it's like we only know
the Twilight Universe as it relates toBella and Edward, which again is true
with like Harry Potter and fucking anythingelse. But like again, like those
are like completely made up worlds,whereas at least the Twilight world is restricted
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to like the real world plus allthese vampire logistics. Yes, so I
don't know. So we are pleadinglines Gate, please don't make this.
If you do, come talk tous. Okay, yeah, my number
is Okay, let's get to thefun part. Huh. Yeah, Okay,
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so we don't want the show tohappen, but we did come up
with a cast of people who wewould want to put down in this show.
And I was sort of even thinkinglike if I could just like put
people in the Twilight movie, Yeah, who would I do? Yeah,
And to be fair, we saidthis in the beginning. We're not confined
to money, We're not confined tolevels of fame or A listers, B
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listers, We're not confined to anythingreally height Yeah, I don't know.
Purely vibes. Purely vibes. Thisis just who we could envision for these
characters without any of the logistics ofHollywood. Okay, we're just little girls,
so small all right. This isalso gonna be kind of hard for
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like an audio listener, I know, So maybe we'll do like a Twitter
thread of these people's faces. SoI was gonna say when I was thinking,
I was on a walk earlier andI was like, what should I
say in the podcast in a coupleof hours, And I was like,
Jetta's pigs are going to be somuch more niche than they're not super niche,
Like a lot of them are wellknown, but like there's some in
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here, Like I mean, myBella is like not a person I would
know by name for example, forexample, my Bella I chose is I'm
going to butcher. So many ofthese names too, That's the other thing.
Daniella Melchoir, Melcore, Okay,what is she in? She is
in the Suicide Squad. Okay,don't ask me who she was because I
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don't remember. She's in the Fastten movie, like the Fast and Furious
ten movie. She's in the AssassinClub, Garden, Guardians of the Galaxy.
She's like the But my thought hereand I think the other hard part
is casting people who look like they'rein high school. Yeah, which I
just kind of threw out the window. I mean kind of no, I
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get you, Like this girl's twentyseven, but she could maybe look like
a high schooler if you really youknow, just pretended right in the way
that like they made the pretty LittleLiar's cast. Yeah, exactly. But
she's like stunning because like I loveChristin Sewer and I think she's so interesting.
But when she was like eight,like seventeen eighteen, like when the
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cast here, I was just like, she just looks like a little girl,
which is fine, but if Edward'sgonna be so obsessed with her,
I'm gonna pick a model girls.And this girl is so beautiful. She's
like she's Portuguese, like pale skin, brown hair, same like vague features
as Bella. So that's how Ichose look her up. Do you want
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to do your Edward too? Andthen I'll do my Bella and Edward?
Okay, sure. For my Edward, I went with Charles Melton, who
I love. Okay, Charles Meltonwas he was just in something huge and
I'm trying to think of what itwas. The name's familiar. Yeah,
you'll recognize him. He is likean Asian American actor because we're going with
diversity. Oh yeah, I lovethis guy. I think he's so in
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Riverdale. Yeah, he's in Riverdale. What was he just in. I
don't know, he's just in somethingelse, but he's mainly in Riverdale.
I think that's what most people recognizehim for. But he's so attractive.
I will say he is thirty threeyears old. But if he's in Riverdale
real like girl, then he cando high school. Okay, yeah,
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no, he looks jock esque.No, yeah, but he's so handsome.
Okay, he looked great with somesparkles. Yeah no, I like
that. I have to do minetogether. Okay, So my Edward and
bella package deal is Paul mez Calland Daisy Edgar Jones because they started normal
people together. You can't do apre existing couple who already exist. Love
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them so much. Okay, Paulmes Call would like as Edward, but
he's like, like, I lovedon't get wrong, I love him.
He's so hot. I don't thinkhe's got the perfect thing going on.
So I kind of agree. Thiswas me just being like, if I
could make if Edward Colin is likemy perfect man insert pal. Okay,
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and this is what I mean byI went purely off of just like my
first Yeah, I can tell.I was like, I love these I
do think Daisy Agreer Jones, wouldI could see her, I could see
her for her. I don't knowabout that one. He looks like a
human, you know, and Ilove him. I love him. I
do think he would get a littleweird looking if like you took away his
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like scruffiness. Yeah. I justthink like trying to put him in like
a like he's not as polished,yeah, but like in a way that
we like, you know, nooffense of Paul Mascow, please call us,
I will say, like as alike when I was kind of brainstorming,
I was, and this is suchan obvious boring pick, but I
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was like Edward and Bella, likeyou could go with Jenna Ortega and Jacob
Elordi but the height difference, butactually because that's the room. Oh yeah,
so that was Remember that was likeliterally a person being like I want
them. Okay, I saw iton the internet, but I think,
like if you're talking about relevant likepeople, but like also Jacob Elordi,
like I could see him as Edward. I don't know if I could see
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Jenner or Tag as Bella. Iagree, like she tends to play like
kind of snappy characters and I justdon't think that's Bella. Also, the
height difference would actually be insane,Like I think Jenner r Take is like
five foot, didn't Jacob six seven? Yeah, that was crazy learning that
on Saturday Night Live. Yeah,he's as tall as Hosier. It's crazy.
I saw a guy in the busthe other day who gave me Hosier
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vibes and call me, call meeveryone, call us please, Oh my
god, all right, who doyou got for? Jacob? Jacob was
a little bit harder. This washard, and I'll be honest that I
like didn't fully decide because I wasjust like, I want this to just
be someone like accurate to the tribe. Yeah I am exactly yeah, But
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then I didn't want to be like, oh, like boo boo Stewart when
like he's already I know, yeah, so I did, just I care
more about the ethics of this thanlike, no, exactly own And I
think realistically, like you would justgo for like someone who hasn't necessarily been
discovered yet, yes, like who'syou know, indigenous, and like whatever,
(38:21):
I did just choose Forrest good Luckjust because he's like a semi relevant
Indigenous actor. I don't quite thinkhe has the look for it, but
you know, just in terms ofpeople who you might vaguely know, which
I don't think that many people knowhim. Yeah, so well, because
I just google, I would likewas googling like indigenous actors. Yeah,
(38:43):
and then all of them were justlike people already in Twilight. Yeah,
they were all already in Twilight.Or they're usually like older people, right,
and there's a there's more woman thanlike younger men. Yeah, that
was the other problems. I canfind someone who worked for the age,
right, because he's supposed to bea little younger than everyone too, so
I don't know he was a harderone. Let's find someone new, Let's
(39:06):
discover someone reparation reparations. Sorry,that was kind of anti climactic. Should
we talk about since we're talking aboutRenesme or since we're talking about Jacob,
Should we talk about Renesme? Didyou do as? I didn't? But
okay, so I did one justbecause I thought I saw someone I was
(39:28):
like, Couldesme? This would bea grown up Reneesme. And again this
would be more so if we dida continuation of their story. Us thinking
Sadie sinc mm. I like hera lot. She's very talented. She's
like a younger looking person. Ilike that. But yeah, that's all
I got for that. No,that's good. I didn't think of one,
so I'll just tak it. Yeah, I mean we were kind of
(39:50):
sticking to the first movie only,so whatever. I'll second that though.
Great, who do you got next? Next? I have Jess for and
Alice. Okay, again, thisis just this was me just being funny
for the first few Okay, notfunny necessarily, but I think Timothy Shallime
would be oh my god, hilarious. No, that would be so I
(40:14):
would be obsessed with that because Ifeel like he has the vibe. Right,
that's good, dude. And Alice. Alice took me a long time
because then I was like, lolKylie Jenner not actually just I was like,
let me just insert all these realcouples. Yeah, but I was
like, Alice is like hard becauseshe needs to be like manic pixie dream
girl. Ease. So I pickedEmma Mackie. I think that's my same
(40:38):
name. She plays Mave in SexEducation. Oh okay, I think she
would see that. Yeah, shecan be a little okay interesting, Okay,
she's like young enough and no,yeah, for sure. Again,
that was like one of the hardestthings I think, picking people who could
be like theoretically in high school eventhough they don't look like they're in high
(41:00):
school, you know. So Iwas like, I can't pick someone in
the thirties, even though I didpick people in there. Whatever. No,
it was hard, Yeah, especiallyfor like the people who are the
parents. Yeah, I don't know, Yeah, because it's like you could
look like you're as old as youYeah, like Carlisle's supposed to be twenty
three, but he's also like forty. I don't know, I don't know.
(41:22):
This is hard whatever. For AlisonJasper, I went a little off
the rails, okay, and that'sokay. I said, we need more
diversity in this cast, and Jaspercanonically cannot be a Confederate in my eyes.
If we're going to redo this,let's redo it right. So for
(41:45):
Jasper, it shows Mason Gooding,who looks like this, Okay? Is
he in? Is that the guyfrom BookSmart? I believe, so let
me read his He's also in Screamthe newer ones. He's in Love Victor,
he is in Yes, he's inBookSmart. Very attractive man. And
(42:07):
yeah, I was just like,you know what, I didn't like Jessper
from the beginning. To make himsomeone completely new, No exactly, and
am I allowed to do that?I don't know, but this is my
theoretical world. And then to pairwith him, I said Chloe Bailey,
who just played Little Mermaid. Yeah, I feel like she could be like
quirky if she wanted to. Butagain, I just like we need some
(42:30):
diversity, you guys, I justthink that would be fun. So yeah,
I don't have a lot of greatreasoning behind that other than yeah,
that's what I wanted. Okay,sorry, guys, you want to do
Rosalie and Emmett, Yeah, Okay, Rosalie I think is just funny.
(42:51):
It's not actually funny, but it'sjust funny because I chose Suki Waterhouse.
Okay, who is who is with? But I watched she was in Daisy
Jones and The Six and I've justlike had a Suki Waterhouse moment where I
think she's like, she's very gorgeous. She is a really great woman.
She definitely looks older. Yeah,but like, Rosalie to me is just
(43:15):
like so fierce, and I wantedher to be just like, not like
basic fierce, and choose like ajust like who's the hot blonde in Hollywood
right now? I want it tobe someone with like a little more artistry,
fair, but then Emmett completely justsomeone who I think is hot and
have liked. I chose Miles Teller. Miles Teller, that's fun, okay,
(43:38):
but I think they're like a weirdpairing. I mean, sure,
but that's okay. I feel likeEmmett in the original movie what's his face
is kind of you know, nomeans to him. I think he's a
great fellow. I do feel likehe's maybe the least hot of the group,
and I think we could improve onthat. Okay, So speaking a
(44:00):
funny casting for Emmett, I didchoose Will Polter, who I love.
He's kind of an it boy rightnow. He looks like he could be
in high school and I think hecould just beef up a little bit.
And he looked great for this part. He's just such a cutie. He's
also like he like kind of famouslyplays like dumb guys, which I love
and I think would fit so wellfor Emmett. He's like famously in Were
(44:24):
the Millers as like the dumb son. He's in Midsommar, which I love.
He's in the Revenant, so likehe can girl can act. And
then I chose Hunter Schaeffer for Rosalie. I think she's like such the egg
girl. She's like so pretty andlike yeah, and she like, you
(44:45):
know, she plays a high schoolerin Euphoria, So I'm like, I
think she's and I think, like, I don't know, she hasn't been
in like that much stuff, likemainly Euphoria, but I do feel like
she could play like a mean Rosalie, like a mean in the way like
we love her, she deserves tobe mean, right, So that's what
(45:06):
I got. Who else we have? Who? I only have? Like
two more? Okay? I diddo Bella's parents, So I did Charlie.
I did not do okay, butI did Carlisle as May Charlie and
Renee. Okay, I did Charlieand Carlisle. Okay, because fuck the
woman. Anyways, who do you? Who do you have for Charlie and
(45:28):
okay Charlie. I did David borianIs or how we say his name,
but he he plays agent Booth andBones. Okay, I know who this
is. He's in a Buffy Yeah, yeah, Agel. I was just
like he played he's an FBI agent. No, yeah, I see that
dad energy. That's a good choice. And then Renee, since I just
(45:52):
Catherine Hahn or Hand or whatever hername is, I have recognize that name
because I just think Renee is likecan be said, he could be such
a funny character. Yeah, Imean, if we're gonna have like a
comedia moment, and I like loveher, she's so funny. She but
she also played a really serious role. Remember that show we watched, I
(46:12):
forget what it's called, but wherelike her husband, they were on some
like residency in the desert and shewas obsessed with Kevin Bacon. Yeah.
Yeah, Like she was really goodin that. But then she also is
like in a lot of comedies,so I think she'd be a fun like
aloof Oh, that's a good choice. Like I said, didn't do because
(46:34):
whatever for Charlie, I said,Brendan Fraser, he's having quite the moment
right now, which we love him. He gives me real dad energy.
Yeah, and that's pretty much it. I think you could play a cop.
I don't know if you don't recognizethat name. He just did the
whale. He was the Guy andthe Mummy an icon and he just won
(46:58):
like an Oscar last. I don'tknow he's won awards recently, and I
really I love his comeback. Yeah, I'm rooting for him so he can
be in my Twilight saga. Allright, who do you got for Carlile?
So Carlile was my last pick,and I honestly am not like super
proud of it because I feel likeit's just so like a list okay,
(47:23):
but for okay, I had likea really big Leo phase when I was
in I did not choose Leo though, okay, and I was like,
I can't choose Leo, but Iwas like, I also looks old these
I know he's not hot anymore.Yeah, and like the person I chose
isn't young either, okay, butI was just like, who, Like,
it's just such a commanding character andhonestly, I don't like I want
(47:47):
more time to think about it.When I landed on Matthew McConaughey is awful,
but I chose Anne Hathaway for Esmeand I think an Anne Matthew Combo
is such like cult energy, soCulty and I just think his like the
(48:10):
like characters he gets into where he'slike real wise and stuff. I just
think it could work, but Idon't know. Man, Like I really
struggled with Carliles. Yeah, Carlileis hard because he has to be like
a hot doctor, but he alsocan't look super old. But he also
is older. Yeah, I waslike, I'm just gonna lean in and
(48:32):
be like he's supposed to be thedad, Like, let him be old.
He's he is dad. I wouldsee MoU Leo, who was just
in the Barbie movie. He wasjust he's what Marvel person is he?
I don't know whatever, he's aMarvel guy, but like he's super hot.
(48:52):
He's already fit from the Barbie movie, so also super relevant. Plus
like again, just if we're gonnaI already know they're gonna do the diversity
thing, so let's just do it. Okay, that's real, Just lean
into it. I know they're gonnaadd like, you know, one of
each you know, well that's whateveryone does. And I get it.
(49:13):
Listen, I get it. I'mnot as a person who is not white,
I appreciate the representation. However,sometimes it is a little obvious when
it's like, oh, we needto we need a bunch of white characters
and then just one Asian, oneblack person, maybe one Hispanic person.
Okay, just cover all your bases, get them all done. I'm gonna
(49:34):
like, I'm gonna let that onesit and I'm gonna redo that one by
the time we record another episode.Okay, But I was I had picked
Anne Hathaway because I was, like, she's so mother to me. Yeah,
and I just I wanted someone whowould like go well with Anne Hathaway.
And that's like what it is hardthought about the most. Yeah,
(49:59):
I don't know. I mean,like, and the reason I didn't do
Renee or Esme is just because likethey're so background characters, which I wish
they weren't. I think like Reneecould have been such an interesting addition,
and like, hey, if wewant to give Bella some therapy, like
let's have more Renee, let's talkabout like why and Charlie's not an angel
whatever, but like Asme especially sucha just like whatever character, which is
(50:24):
fine, I guess. But line'sgate. If you can put together the
money for these insane lineups, MatthewMcConaughey is probably gonna blow your entire You
should probably call us and we'll Idon't know. I mean, we already
put it out there, so wejust gave them all our ideas for free.
(50:47):
Yeah we should maybe, well we'llsend this to the studio. Well,
hey, whatever, you know what, and if, honestly, if
the cast comes back and we haveat least fifty percent of it, then
we'll know. Yeah, then we'llknow they listen. I know Catherine Hardwick
is just typing in Twilight into thelisten to our podcast. I do think
(51:13):
she would. She's been on likesome like other Twilight podcasts. We got
to remember when we first started inan emailed Stephanie Meyer's agent. Yeah,
maybe they'd get back to us now. Yeah, two time winning Best of
Madison, they're like, where's Madison? Madison? Nominations are open for Best
of Madison? You really, however, give a shit. I can't believe
(51:36):
it's already time to do that again, So no pressure, but it does
exist. Yeah. Am I evengonna nominate us? I don't know.
Maybe if I remember one random day, I'll do it. But every day.
Anything else to add about the TwilightShow, anything else you want to
tell Lionsgate. Just like Jen andI I have a lot of ideas.
(52:00):
So and the biggest one is tojust not do this right. So we're
gonna not do this one, hireus to do something else. Yes,
because we are nothing if not themost satirical of entrepreneurs. Yes, we
love money, we love capital,we love stocks, the free market,
(52:22):
we love the freekowers. Yes,it like quite literally belongs to us.
Again only qute when we do it. Yeah, exactly. And with that,
we should probably follow us on Twitter. We're at say It Out Loud
podcasts. We're also on Instagram moreso than Twitter these days, because you
know, no one uses Twitter anymore. Whatever, we're at siol pod on
(52:46):
Instagram. We should follow us.I honestly think our podcast or I think
our Instagram might be funnier than ourTwitter these days. I don't know.
We're getting there. I'm pretty impressedwhen we're getting there, the things that
you come up with. We've gota little one thing on our great going.
Please follow us, please, asif you could outrun me just hard
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