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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hey, their dear listener. It's Marie Noo Hossan and today
we're sharing with you episode two of the Network. It's
a new series that Latino USA co produced with NPR's
Embedded podcast. Now, if you haven't listened to the first episode,
of course, I recommend that you do that first. Check
it out on the embedded feed or listen to last
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week's Latino USA podcast. In the first episode, Latino USA
producers Marta Martinez and Victoria Estrada traveled to Brazil in
order to trace the roots of an unexpected discovery, an
ulcer pill that could be used to have safe abortions
without a doctor. A network of Brazilian women started whispering
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about that pill, Cytotech. It's the commercial name of Miso Prosto,
which is also known as Miso. But that's not where
the story ends, because soon word of that discovery would
cross borders, and it brought the network into a new
era in which women were using new tactics to get
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the word out and they started working on a much
larger scale. Mittoria and Martha are going to take it
from here. This is episode two of the network.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
Saintotech. That was the name that some Brazilian doctors started
calling sidetech in the nineteen eighties because far fewer women
were dying from abortion complications thanks to this ulcer pill,
but not everyone was ready to canonize it. During the nineties,
the Brazilian government cracked down on side attack the commercial
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name of misoprostol, or Misto for short. Eventually, the government
banned the medication and labeled it a controlled substance, which
meant miso had restrictions similar to what dangerous drugs like
fentanyl now have, and conditions got harsh for women who
had abortions. The government targeted them more and more arrested them.
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In charge is distributing me so and what prosecutors called
self induced abortion.
Speaker 3 (02:05):
Oh my fashion.
Speaker 4 (02:06):
A cleaning lady has been arrested. She suspected of having
a clandestine abortion.
Speaker 5 (02:15):
But despite official attempts to control me so, the secret
was out Reproactive health workers in Latin America heard about
the pill when they traveled. Some people got some from Columbia,
and then some people got some from Brazil from a
Peruvian city in the Amazon jungle. And she said, here
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we use a bill, And I said, what bill is that?
Two huge feminist gatherings across Latin America called quintros, where
women chatted about it in the hallways.
Speaker 3 (02:51):
We were in a group talking and they said.
Speaker 6 (02:53):
Look, we've been using Cytottech and it's working well.
Speaker 5 (03:00):
Part of the pill was moving out of Brazil to
countries where abortion was also mostly banned and deeply stigmatized.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
And so we were just like, well, well, how do
we use.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
This activists who are getting their hands on me? So
saw its potential widespread access to safe abortions, but to
make that happen, they needed to get organized, which sparked
a whole new set of questions.
Speaker 5 (03:25):
How could they talk about something that had been almost unspeakable,
and even if they did, was talking enough. This episode,
we're going to Ecuador, Argentina, and Mexico, all places where
the women who make up this diffuse network took on
these questions, teaming up, challenging each other, sometimes even breaking
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the law to change it. I'm Marta MARTINEV, I'm Victoria Estrada,
and this is the network A serious about the diy
me that took safe abortions out of the clinic and
the women who made it happen.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
Episode two, Breaking Bread the activist in Latin America who
knew about Miso had a problem. Abortion was highly criminalized,
it was stigmatized. How could they get women access to
something illegal, something that was shrouded in shame.
Speaker 5 (04:28):
The obvious option was to keep the conversation and their
actions hidden, whispering sister to sister, and that's basically what
happened for more than a decade.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
But in two thousand and eight, activists in Latin America
took a totally different tack. In the middle of Quito, Ecuador,
there's a statue of a virgin lavir ghindl Panicido. She's
slightly taller than Rio di Janeto's famous Christ the Redeemer.
She has wings spread out like an angel. One day,
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a group of women decided to pull a stunt. They
were a mix of Ecuadorian activists and activists from Women
on Waves, an abortion axis organization based in the Netherlands.
They plotted how to get to the statue's balcony without
attracting attention.
Speaker 3 (05:16):
There are two guards there, so we need some beautiful
blonze to distract them.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
A twenty fourteen documentary called Vessel recorded their efforts.
Speaker 3 (05:26):
We are occupying the Virgin let a lot of women.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
They hung a big white banner on the balcony of
the Virgin Statue. The banner said safe abortion with a
phone number. That number was for the first abortion hotline
in Latin America. The documentary shows them getting nearly eighty
calls within the first few hours.
Speaker 6 (05:52):
Hello saloons.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
This idea for a hotline and the stunt promoting it
through the Latin American network into a new, more public era.
They reached thousands of women this way. Their work was bold,
it was organized, and maybe most importantly, it was replicable.
Women in other countries had been watching what happened in Ecuador,
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and a.
Speaker 5 (06:20):
Year later Argentina started its own hotline, and so initial.
Speaker 4 (06:25):
In the beginning, the hot line was so bare bones
the view of the We had a small backpack with
the Nokia eleven hundred.
Speaker 5 (06:36):
Militian and notebooks and.
Speaker 4 (06:38):
Flash cards and a process we had built rigorously.
Speaker 5 (06:42):
This is Anamins, one of the first volunteers of the
Argentinian helpline. She was part of the collective Lesbians and
Feminists for Abortion Decriminalization. She and I talked in her
living room in Buenos Aires, with her cat sitting on
her lap. It was starting to face. She told me
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that when they started the helpline in the summer of
two thousand and nine, they were just a dozen volunteers.
They didn't climb a statue. Instead, they put up posters
and stickers all over Buenos Aires. They were on TV
where they shared their phone number AKINCE, and they had
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a weekly radio show on the channel Agent. Pretty Soon
the helpline was flooded with calls.
Speaker 4 (07:41):
Demand was four more. It was always for a lot more.
Speaker 5 (07:46):
Volunteers gave callers step by step information on how to
self manage an abortion.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
With MISO and Argentina, no one had ever done what
this collective was doing, speaking so openly about abortions and
how to do it on your own. Not everyone was
happy about it.
Speaker 5 (08:03):
I said, do we have to do this so public?
You are nuts.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
This is Mariana Romero, the executive director of STATIS, the
Center for State and Society Studies. She's a prominent reproductive
health researcher and advocate for abortion rights in Argentina. Marianna
and other feminists worried that the helpline could inadvertently reduce
access to me.
Speaker 6 (08:26):
So you are going to make the pharmaceutical company that
produced mysoposal take it out of that market.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
That wasn't the only risk of their work. The helpline
was operating in uncharted territory since abortion was mostly banned.
The volunteers worried any work they did on abortion could
put them or the women they helped in jail. But
as the years passed, no helpline volunteers were ever arrested.
Speaker 5 (08:52):
And so they got more provocative with the way they
talked about abortion. A year after launching the helpline, they
printed a manual explaining how to self manage an abortion
by taking miso without a doctor. It's thorough, more than
one hundred pages long. The cover is all pink, with
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two big rainbows and a bunch of bills with smiley
faces and on the back.
Speaker 4 (09:23):
On the back, I had a picture of a Barbie
and a huge rainbow.
Speaker 5 (09:27):
She's in a pink convertible with sunglasses and a glamorous
scarf over her head.
Speaker 4 (09:35):
And in a fun fun it said Barbie had to go.
It was awesome, Barbie said.
Speaker 5 (09:44):
Anna says women were hungry for this information.
Speaker 4 (09:48):
It was a best seller. I had two printings of
ten thousand copies each.
Speaker 5 (09:58):
Anna like a lot of the early helpline volunteers is
a lesbian. She saw echoes of her own experience in
the shame and stigma that women faced when they wanted
an abortion. She says the helpline and the manual were
driven by a lesbian philosophy.
Speaker 4 (10:15):
The now closet, refusing to be in the closet no
stigma of getting out there and saying yes, we're.
Speaker 5 (10:23):
Here, being public was one pillar of the helpline strategy.
The other was relying on science. Both the manual and
the script that the helpline volunteers used were based on
scientific research.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
Starting in the nineties, researchers from around the world had
taken an interest in what Latin American activists had been doing.
They ran studies on women taking miso to end their
pregnancies in places all over the globe, from Africa to
Southeast Asia. Sometimes researchers worked in partnership with the activist.
Over and over. They found that using miso in this
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way was safe and effective, and they developed best practices
for it. Their research led the World Health Organization to
add miso to its Essential Medicines list in two thousand
and five. Helpline volunteers cited this body of research on
their calls, and it gave them credibility. By the twenty tens,
the helpline and the manual were disseminating all that scientific
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information to tens of thousands of women in Argentina.
Speaker 5 (11:25):
Anna herself was able to help thousands of women through
the helpline, but sometimes as she spoke to women, Anna
wanted to stay in touch.
Speaker 4 (11:37):
If a specific story affected me and made me anxious
and I wanted to stay involved, a colleague would say, no, no,
it's not your role. We didn't have the capacity, and
in political terms, that wasn't our project.
Speaker 2 (11:55):
But other activists were concerned. They were aware of all
the hype around abortion health lines, but skeptical about the approach.
Speaker 3 (12:05):
How do you know for sure that those women are
not at risk? You gave them information and then what no.
Speaker 5 (12:12):
Less concilio.
Speaker 3 (12:13):
Did she get appeals or didn't she? Did she end
up in the hospital? Did she do something wrong? You
actually don't know anything.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
This is Veronica Cruz who goes by Verto. She's an
activist in Mexico doing something completely different than the helplines,
something that would push the envelope much further. After the break,
we follow Vetro to Mexico.
Speaker 5 (12:49):
The helplines, the Barbie manual. All of it was aimed
at spreading the word about Miso and changing how people
were talking about abortion.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
But Veronica, who you heard for the break and who
goes vi Vero didn't think spreading information was enough. She
used a different strategy in the feminist collective she started
in Mexico. The collective is called Las Libres, which means
the free.
Speaker 7 (13:13):
Las libres is maybe de la compagna Minto's maybe deloiquatro
cie Las.
Speaker 3 (13:18):
Libres is my life. A companiamentto is my life. I
can do it twenty four to seven.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
A companiamento. That's the name of her approach.
Speaker 5 (13:27):
Usually people translate a companiamento as accompaniment. It's not a
word you use in English very often, but in Spanish
you hear it all the time. It can mean being
with someone but also supporting them or just keeping them company.
Speaker 2 (13:45):
I love the root of the word, which comes from
Latin companies. It means the people you break bread with,
your companions, the people you trust.
Speaker 5 (13:55):
And for abortion, it's come to mean being there during
the whole process, from beginning to end, regardless of the legal.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
Risks based on our reporting. Veto's collective Las Liveres, was
the first group in Latin America and possibly the world,
to start doing accompanimento with miso why not Positions? I
visited Veto last fall at the Las Liveres office in Juanajuato,
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a city in central Mexico. Wow, stovill la vista. Their
office is more homey than corporate. It's in a three
story house that's nestled into the hills.
Speaker 5 (14:36):
Akisi Yea.
Speaker 2 (14:39):
Veto founded lasire Is nearly a decade before any of
the helplines started. At the time, abortion in Mexico was
essentially banned in the state where Veto lives. The only
exception was for women who were raped, but even in
those cases, hospitals often denied women the right to the procedure.
So Vedo was working with a Gayna college is to
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help women who'd been raped get legal abortions, and in
two thousand, this doctor, like a growing number of doctors
around the world, started to use miso for abortions. Veto
remembers the first time she saw the doctor give a
woman miso.
Speaker 5 (15:18):
I was like, what, no way.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
It was nothing like a surgical abortion, and Veto had
a realization I mean I.
Speaker 3 (15:26):
Can do it cost Yes, I can just buy the
pills tell the woman how to use them. That was
like an incredible discovery for me.
Speaker 2 (15:35):
Not long after, a woman came to the last Liveless
office Medico.
Speaker 3 (15:40):
She told me I'm not a rape victim, but I
also want to interrupt.
Speaker 2 (15:44):
Interrupt her pregnancy. This woman didn't qualify for legal abortion
in Mexico because she wasn't a rape survivor. So Veto
didn't send her to the doctor.
Speaker 6 (15:53):
And I think.
Speaker 5 (15:55):
Victim Ada lession I.
Speaker 3 (15:57):
Said, we don't have to tell anyone if she was
or wasn't a victim, that it's going to stay here
between us.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
Veto decided to accompany the woman through the whole process,
even though it was risky. Where Vero lived, any method
of ending a pregnancy that wasn't a result of rape
carried a prison sentence for the woman and anyone who
helped her. But unlike in Brazil, in Mexico, misa was
easy to get. Even though you technically needed a prescription,
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you could often get it over the counter. So Veto
told the woman to just go buy the pills, and
she did. She got the miso and went home.
Speaker 5 (16:39):
Sando I was always.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
Monitoring her for any complications. Even though Veto had seen
how the pills work, how easy it was to use them,
she says it was nerve wracking to support someone through
an abortion without a doctor.
Speaker 3 (16:55):
Then, so I slept with my cel phone on my
chest all the time, like in case it rank or something.
Speaker 2 (17:04):
The next day, the woman went to a doctor who
confirmed her pregnancy had ended without any complications. Veto's first
time doing accompaniamento had gone smoothly. After that, when someone
contacted las Levitz for an abortion and they were not
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rape survivors, Las Leivas didn't send her to the kindacologists
they'd been working with. They handled it themselves.
Speaker 3 (17:34):
We promised ourselves that we were never going to leave
anyone without access whatever we had to do.
Speaker 2 (17:44):
If a woman couldn't afford to buy miso, which was
expensive in Mexico, Las Leaves would give her the pills
for free. If a woman could afford me. So sometimes
she had left over pills. Veto suggested what to do
with them.
Speaker 6 (17:59):
Q two.
Speaker 3 (18:01):
I told them the next woman who comes, you are
going to give her the pills as a gift, and
you are going to tell her about your experience.
Speaker 2 (18:09):
Veto would set up a meeting between the two women
in a park or at a mall. The woman who'd
had an abortion would share her leftover pills and her story. Eventually,
some women did this even when Vedo hadn't asked so.
Speaker 7 (18:22):
So for Multiply Candon multiplic Cando multiply Candle.
Speaker 3 (18:25):
That was multiplying and multiplying and multiplying.
Speaker 2 (18:28):
By connecting women directly one by one, Las Livides was
recruiting volunteers and growing the network a person.
Speaker 3 (18:37):
There are people from those beginnings who are still at
company or even started their own groups.
Speaker 2 (18:44):
Les Livides helped create accompaniment networks that today reached every
state in Mexico. But over the years some activists criticized
Veto's approach. For them, real change was changed ing the law.
Veto remembers one conference where activists told her that what
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she was doing compromised their movement for abortion rights. They
didn't want to be associated with people like her who
were breaking the law.
Speaker 3 (19:15):
They said that what we were doing of accompanying the
women and giving them the bills was risky for us,
for us and for the whole movement Portos, because if
they arrest you, it's like they are going to come
for everyone.
Speaker 2 (19:36):
But Veto believed the system she'd help create was necessary
and more humane than what the helplines across Latin America offered.
And she actually didn't care if others were worried that
her methods might damage legalization efforts.
Speaker 5 (19:51):
Mamselle, if we got.
Speaker 3 (19:54):
Down the legalization route, we'll never finish, or it will
take a very long time, so we need concrete answers.
Speaker 5 (20:01):
Many activists in the network across Latin America found themselves
on opposite sides. Some were fighting to legalize abortion. Those
women were playing the long game, you might say. Others
were actively breaking the law because women who needed abortions
immediately couldn't wait until the law changed. But one group
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realized they didn't have to make a choice between the
two sides. That's after the break A companiaminto with me
So started in Mexico, but in Argentina women took it
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to the next level. Last fall, I went to a
feminist gathering called an Inquentro was being held in a
small Argentine city called San Salvador de Hujui near the
Andes Mountains. The days of women whispering about me So
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in the hallways those are long gone. I've never seen
so many women together here. Absolutely more than fifty thousand
women flooded this town, and there was one woman you
just couldn't miss. Her name is Ruth Surrichen. At the Encuentros,
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She's usually the person with the megaphone and seemingly endless energy.
Ruth is one of the founders of the Argentinian Accompaniment
network so Corista sendriv, which translates to first Responders Network.
Even traveling doesn't keep her from doing accompaniamento. Ruth told
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me she was going to accompany three women in between
her packs schedule at the Endquentron, and one of them
is going to be using Miso proussel tonight at around
eleven thirty pm, so I'll be there. Bruce took the
accompaniamento model and scaled it. She started Socaristas and Dread
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in twenty twelve. It's now the biggest abortion accompaniment collective
in the world. And to make that happen, she and
the Socaristas decided to build systems, turning the art of
accompaniamento into a science that started with a simple step,
not exactly a revolutionary one.
Speaker 7 (22:39):
Yea Mohamunavia we said, let's make a form, yeah, amasumo,
let's do a little follow up.
Speaker 5 (22:46):
The Socaristas survey was exhaustive, so that's amar.
Speaker 7 (22:52):
We were annoying, really annoying with the women.
Speaker 5 (22:55):
They asked straightforward questions like how many weeks pregnant were you?
Did you have a successful abortions? You need to tell
us because this is going to be useful for others.
Speaker 3 (23:06):
He important.
Speaker 5 (23:08):
Other questions were more personal, why did you decide to
have an abortion? Does your partner know? Are you religious?
Speaker 7 (23:15):
And I think it's because we were conscious that we
were also producing science prosamba.
Speaker 5 (23:23):
They tracked the data on spreadsheets, carefully documenting trends in
women's experiences self managing with Miso and the Socaristas quickly
noticed that a lot of women were finding them in
pretty unexpected ways.
Speaker 7 (23:39):
Thirty percent had come to us recommended by healthcare professionals,
and that's when we said, Greta, what's happening, queneson who
are they?
Speaker 5 (23:51):
Ruth was surprised. In general, doctors in Argentina were not
on board with abortion, especially when they weren't happening in
hosts hospitals. So Socoristas wanted to understand why medical staff
were referring patients to them a group that was working
outside the medical system and the law, so they used
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gorilla tactics to build relationships with them. They started scheduling
appointments with these doctors as if they were personal appointments,
so that they could talk to them in private.
Speaker 7 (24:25):
Marnavin and we started creating a bond with professional medical staff,
and then we started asking them, what's the problem if
you write two prescriptions a month for us and nothing right?
And they write us two or three prescriptions for us
with different dates, and we'd get male names from friends
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or sons la retas and the prescriptions would be under
male names.
Speaker 5 (25:00):
Not something socoristas do anymore. And when they did it,
it was illegal. Many feminists weren't comfortable with Ruth's work.
She was a little bit too radical for me. This
is Mariana Romero again, she's the reproductive health researcher you
heard earlier who thought to legalize abortion in Argentina.
Speaker 6 (25:20):
Radical how well, because they were open about having abortions
at home and being with women having their abortions at home.
Speaker 5 (25:32):
I was like, what, just like with les levities in Mexico,
Feminists in Argentina worried that Socoristas would damage their country's
movement for abortion rights because it would be associated with
criminal activity, but some of the doctors and nurses Agorista's
scheduled appointments with were happy to help, even though they
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risked losing their license. I talked to a couple of them,
and obgin named Gabrila Lucetti said sending patients who needed
an abortion to the Sokoristas wasn't a hard choice, said demos.
Speaker 3 (26:07):
Do you know what we felt, Olivia, Relief, Ivase.
Speaker 6 (26:13):
Someone was going to do what we didn't dare to
because we had a license and we were afraid of
the law.
Speaker 7 (26:19):
Alais.
Speaker 5 (26:21):
A general practitioner named Naria Scharbowski told me she gladly
signed the prescription every once in a while confience.
Speaker 3 (26:30):
I trusted them and I believed in the practice, but
also to feel like I was contributing in a tiny way.
Speaker 5 (26:39):
A few years later, research showed that doctors had reason
to trust the Sokoristas. A study published in an influential
academic journal called The Lancet Global Health found that abortions
with the Socoristas support were just as safe and effective
as those that happened in a clinic, and then in twenty.
Speaker 1 (27:03):
Eighteen, Argentine lawmakers began an historic debate on legalizing abortion.
Speaker 2 (27:08):
More than a thousand, thirty years after feminists in Argentina
started a movement to legalize abortion, the Argentina and Congress
considered a law that would make abortion a right. More
than seven hundred people gave speeches at the Congress, including
helpline volunteers and the soaparistas. Since socaristas had been accompanying
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women through their abortions, they had specific stories they could share.
This is a socarista reading the words of women who
sought the collective's help for modios. But they came from
different class backgrounds and needed abortions for different reasons. One
was in college and another had lost your job. Another
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had recently separated from her partner.
Speaker 5 (28:03):
Chicos no Kiromas.
Speaker 2 (28:06):
Sogoristas had all these stories from the survey responses. The
data they've been tracking for five years. In that time
did accompanied nearly twenty thousand abortions.
Speaker 5 (28:17):
This data challenged beliefs that Argentinians had Sogaristas showed that
the women who are most likely to have abortions were
already mothers, and that many of them were religious.
Speaker 7 (28:29):
Here's Ruth Againita, How did so Gorristas contribute? The one
thing I considered the most important is that we erased
the idea of abortion as a clandestine practice. We said,
people here are having abortions. You can have a safe abortion,
yes see, and you can do it at home.
Speaker 5 (28:53):
Some of the other feminists who testified in front of Congress,
like the researcher Mariana Rometo, had been critical of the Socorristas,
but she and other skeptics came around.
Speaker 6 (29:04):
They were radical. But if they weren't, I don't know
if things would have happened the way they happened.
Speaker 5 (29:22):
From sharing information about the pills in hallways at feminist
gatherings to taking abortion out of the closet to building
a whole support system for women having self managed abortions.
Feminist efforts decade after decade helped change the law, and
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in twenty twenty one, abortion became legal in Argentina. Now
any woman can go to a hospital or a community
clinic and ask for an abortion up to fourteen weeks
planation needed, and it became common practice for doctors to
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prescribe miso for abortion.
Speaker 2 (30:06):
Argentina was just the beginning the campaign there to legalize abortion,
which brought together a broad range of feminist groups inspired
feminists all over Latin America. Argentinians made the green bandana
the symbol for their movement, and the fight to legalize
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abortion across the region became known as the Green Wave,
and then within a couple of years, Colombia and Mexico
decriminalized abortion.
Speaker 3 (30:42):
Mexico's Supreme Court has declared loudly and clearly that access
to abortion care is a human right.
Speaker 2 (30:50):
This major legal shift made news all over the world.
Speaker 8 (30:54):
In other words, Mexico just got its Row versus Wade today.
Speaker 2 (31:00):
And at the center of this whole movement was a
tiny pill.
Speaker 7 (31:05):
Mis technology misso brussel is a technological revolution that when
you put it in the hands of women and those
who need an abortion, heinera is saut. It generates another revolution.
It's a cultural, social, political, medical revolution.
Speaker 5 (31:33):
But the news up north sounded very different.
Speaker 8 (31:36):
Thank you for joining us on a day that changed
America or outside the Supreme Court after the landmark decision
that overturned Roe versus Weighed and ended a woman's constitutional
right to an abortion. As you can see behind.
Speaker 5 (31:50):
The same year Columbia decriminalized abortion, the US was moving
in the opposite direction.
Speaker 3 (32:00):
Are just absolutely terrified, outrage, discussed anger.
Speaker 8 (32:05):
They are experiencing biraling anxiety in some states, like we're
talking about homicide charges.
Speaker 5 (32:12):
In our final episode, we follow the network to the
United States. Yeah, we've certainly been called drug dealers. We've
been called murderers, abortionists, you know, you name it. That's
next time on the network. All episodes of the network
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