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April 7, 2025 35 mins

Over the past few weeks, President Trump has used executive orders to wage war on law firms, specifically targeting those whose lawyers have investigated or sued him, or represented his enemies in court.

Michael Barbaro speaks to Thomas Sipp, a lawyer who chose to quit after his firm, Skadden, negotiated a deal to placate the president.

Guest: Thomas Sipp, a lawyer who left his firm after they negotiated a deal with Mr. Trump.

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