April 25, 2025 • 46 mins
Jesse Kelly delivers a fiery call to action, demanding accountability for corrupt government officials who abuse their power. With his signature no-holds-barred style, Jesse argues that putting rogue bureaucrats and politicians behind bars isn’t just justice—it’s a necessary deterrent to stop future overreach. He warns that without consequences now, the next time Democrats hold the reins, they’ll feel emboldened to target Republicans with impunity, weaponizing the justice system against their political foes. Packed with hard-hitting commentary, real-world examples, and Jesse’s unapologetic take on restoring fairness, this special episode is a rallying cry for patriots to demand a government that fears the people, not the other way around. Featuring, Mike Benz and Steve Deace.
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
All right, we're about to do a show on the
need for people to go to prison inside the government.
But let's talk about the why first, because that can
be that's really that's the main point of most.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Of these things.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
Why Well, crime and punishment it's been something that societies,
all societies have wrestled with, well in the history of mankind.
Hamer Abi, you've heard of Hamer Abi, doesn't matter if
you haven't heard of him. But he was ancient from
an ancient society. And Hamer Abbi was famous for what
they had, essentially a list of laws, a code. Hey,
(00:47):
if you do this, you'll do this. You take out
someone's eye, will take out your eye, that kind of thing.
Why was that so famous? Well, it showed that every
society has tried to figure out.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
What do we deal with crime? What's right?
Speaker 1 (01:02):
What's wrong we still do with it today? What's too harsh?
What's not harsh enough. If you have a murderer, should
you kill him, give him life in prison? Should you
torture him in the public square, pull his fingernails, I
leave him to starve to death, burn him alive? These
are real questions societies have dealt with throughout history. But
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The reason societies have dealt with these questions is punishment
is necessary.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
You have to have it.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
Without some level of punishment, whether you're pulling fingernails out
or life in prison. Without some level of real, tangible punishment,
crime will simply run rampant.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
That we know too studying human history.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
You see it now, You see it now in America,
in big city after big city. Why are all these
crime numbers going up so much that they stopped reporting
the numbers to the FBI. What do you think that is?
Why do you think cities like New York stop reporting
the crime numbers to the FBI? They stopped prosecuting crime.
Crime went up. You have to punish crime. Picture this,
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picture this. You are aware, at least vaguely aware. I
would assume that at some point in time mid twentieth century,
the United States government became aware and angry about the
presence of the mafia, the Italian mafia LaCOSA Nostra here
in the United States of America. And once the United
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States government took its eyes and focused on the Italian mafia,
they went after them doj FBI indictments, local police tasks,
task force, wire taps, you name it. They went after them. Now,
imagine this, Imagine this. Imagine the government went after the
Italian mafia in the mid twentieth century. Like I said,
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all the wire taps, all the documentation, Hey we've got
you on camera shooting somebody, all these things, and at
the end of all that, the government said, all right,
it's a lot of murder, drug dealing, prostitution, mister mafia,
don I wants your.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
Letter of resignation today. It's a joke, isn't it. It's
not punishment.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
What incentive would any of those people have to change
their ways if the punishment on the back end was
early retirement probation. Criminals don't change their ways for that.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
That's not punishment.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
The United States government is the largest, most well funded,
ongoing criminal enterprise on the planet today.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
When you look at.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
The various crimes the millions of government people have committed
most of those crimes against you, it's it could take
your breath away when you actually just consider all the
horrible things these people have done. Let's look at COVID alone.
That Look, we could sit here for three hours and
go over the examples. Let's look at COVID alone. The
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United States government just started issuing rules to destroy businesses,
to destroy your child's education, to do things to control
your body. The United States government, the American president actually
at one point in time told the American people, this
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was Joe Biden, that he was losing patience with us.
And then they announced Remember when they announced that you
would be fired if you didn't take a COVID vaccine.
You understand that alone. Pause that alone, that's tyrannical, that's insane,
that's criminal. And the people who pushed these crimes, the
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people who did these crimes, it's not just that they
were never prosecuted. They laugh at the very idea that
they might be prosecuted. He was Bauci and her Cruz
told the Attorney general, you should be prosecuted.
Speaker 3 (04:59):
Yeah, I'd have to laugh at that.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
I should be prosecuted. What happened on January sixth, Senator,
I have to laugh at that.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
It's not just that the government is full of criminals,
it's that they operate without fear, with no fear whatsoever.
In fact, they're handsomely rewarded. Remember the things doctor Fauci did.
He not only tried to and successfully did, destroy the
careers of scientists who were saying, Hey, I don't think COVID.
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I don't think it came from a wet market. It
probably came from the lab over there. Doctor Fauci, that
evil little troll destroyed those people.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
In the height of the pandemic.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
He was the highest paid government employee, made more money
than the president, destroy lives, lying at every turn, wrecking
your business, your health, your child's health, without a care
in the world, and so carefree was he about the
whole thing, and it was so lucrative for him.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
He's out there dreaming about the next one.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
What is likely to happen, I don't know if it's
going to be next year or ten years, or fifteen
or twenty years from now. Is the emergence of another
respiratory disease. It may be another coronavirus, because we know
that coronaviruses, really mostly in bats, have the capability of
binding to receptors that are in humans. It could be
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another flu. We're dealing with age five and one now,
which is bird flu, which has taken the somewhat disturbing
step of infecting mammals, namely cows and cats and other mammals,
which means it's adapting itself more do we human? So
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my concern, well do is that whenever that happens, the
next outbreak will be of a respiratory disease that's easily transmissible,
that has a significant degree of morbidity.
Speaker 4 (07:12):
And we are making this a little bit more dangerous
with the cuts and our attitude to its science.
Speaker 1 (07:18):
Oh absolutely, yeah, can't cut any of my funding.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
The next one's going to be deadlier.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
It was heaven for these people, which brings me to
the Department of Justice, because look, the whole point of
this show is government people have to go to prison.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
Why hasn't that happened? It really hasn't happened.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
I know, there's always a Bob Menendez who gets caught
with gold bars under his bed and stacks of cash
and his soup pockets. I know, But in general, why
don't these government people go to prison?
Speaker 2 (07:52):
Well?
Speaker 1 (07:53):
How many times during this show have you seen me
ask a United States Senator or a United States Congressman
what can be done to this person? Okay, this person lied,
this person did wrong? What can be done? What can
be done? And what do they say to me? Every
single time? Every single time they say, well, we referred
them to the DOJ for prosecution. Now it's up to them.
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We referred them to the DOJ for prosecution. Now it's
up to them. The Department of Justice is supposed to
be the top law enforcement agency enforcing these laws, not
just against you, non government worker, against people inside of
the federal government, but instead, the Department of Justice under
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Democrats and Republicans has become the shield of government criminality
because they never, ever, ever actually prosecute government criminals. And
I am starting to get very very concerned that Pambondi
is going to follow along the exact samees every other
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age he did, from Eric Order to Bill Barr to
Jeff's sessions that we could go on down the list.
You know why because instead of getting press conferences about
the FBI agent who's about to be marched off in chains,
I get press conferences like this.
Speaker 5 (09:18):
We will find out who you are and we will
come after you. Domestic terrorists, foreign terrorist you better look
out because we're coming after you. And if you've committed fraud,
we're coming after you. You better watch out because we're
coming after you. Let me be very clear, if you
don't comply with federal law, you're going to be next.
Let this be a warning. You can run, but you
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cannot hide. Justice is coming.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
Justice is coming. Okay.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
I wonder if Alejandro majorcis you see he was DHS head,
you remember that, right, head of the Department of Homeland Security.
That puts him overboard, but ice, that puts him as
we'll call him top security guard if you will, for America,
and as top security guard of America, he forced open
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the door, allowed as many foreigners as he possibly could
into the country. Criminals, rapist, murderers, drug dealers. He flew
as many as he could into the country.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
I wonder, I wonder if.
Speaker 1 (10:24):
He's sitting around afraid that Pam Bondi's coming after him.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
Let's check in with him. I am very proud of
what we did do. I would have liked to have
a wrestled with the question of communication and narration some more.
Doesn't seem like he's about to be in leg irons,
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does it?
Speaker 1 (10:50):
And that's the problem. All that may have made you uncomfortable,
but I am right. We have a great show for
young Let's talk about your shoes and no, look it's me,
you know, I'm not judging you for any kind of
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fashion choices you've made. I wouldn't be qualified to do
so anyway. My wife has to talk me out of
wearing sweats. I'm worried about.
Speaker 2 (11:20):
Your shoes though.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
Your knees, your back, your hips, your feet, How do
they feel at the end of the.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
Day, tired? Soar even that's your shoes, man, That's why
gravity to fire exists. G TOPHI. If you have to
shorten it up, it's shoes. But dunique shoes.
Speaker 1 (11:41):
You see, they have this special technology in them that
makes it easier on your whole body as you walk around.
Your crappy shoes are causing pain in your hips, in
your knees, in your feet, in your back.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
Do you want to get rid of that?
Speaker 1 (11:58):
Just try try one pair and I bet you'll own
five of them eventually. That's how incredible these things are.
They're miraculous. Listen, you want a nice deal, text Jesse
to nine one eight eight that gets you thirty percent
off orders one hundred and twenty bucks or more Jesse
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to nine one eight eight. The State Department would be
a good place throwing people in prison. State Department has
been taking your money and politicking with it across the globe.
It's not even doing it domestically, it makes it maybe worse.
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Joining me now to discuss the problems at the State Department.
Mike Ben's, executive director of the Foundation for Freedom Online. Hey, Mike,
what have they been doing for well, the forty three
years of my lifetime over there at the State Department.
Speaker 4 (12:53):
Well, they've been managing the American world empire. The State
Department really is at at the top of the pyramid
of power in the US government. It is where all
world affairs are effectively managed. Now, it's supposed to be
done so in conjunction with the White House through the
National Security Council, but it often has a mind of
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its own, and this is exactly what's driving the massive
reorganization that was just announced at the State Department. And
I should note that Secretary of Rubio as well as
Under Secretary of State for Public Diplomacy Darren Beatty, deserve
a massive round of applause and thank you from the
American people, in my view, for the actions taken last
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week to eradicate the remnant of the Global Engagement Center,
which was really the first ever government censorship agency within
the US government explicitly designed to censor social media. It
had tucked itself away after its legal statutory sunset in
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a group called ur FEME, which is our just means
public diplomacy. FEMI is the foreign influence malign influence. And
what they did is since they knew that there was
no way to fire these people there were about fifty
full time positions, there was no way to fire these
people without triggering a giant union fight and legal challenges,
they simply eradicated the entire office, as corporations do sometimes
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to avoid lawsuits. They simply get rid of the role entirely,
and that has allowed a really seamless transition back to
a free speech focus. Although there are several other offices involved,
and that is part of what this reorganization is about.
There are one hundred and thirty two sub agencies within
the State Department that are now being eliminated per this
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new reorganization, and these include things like the Countering Extremism capacity,
which was of course used to target every populous leader
on planet Earth. These include these human rights offices, which
are almost always an excuse to try to string up
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people on charges and create predicates, whether real or often false,
in order to create a propaganda swing for an international
coalition to come in and bring in things like transitional
justice and these rule of law programs to legally target
political enemies. Now, what Secretary Rubio is saying is that
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that capacity will remain, but it will be run out
of the US embassies rather than centrally at Foggy Bottom
at the Harry S. Truman Building, which is State Department HQ.
And I have my own thoughts about the nature of
this re org. I think that Secretary Rubio is absolutely correct.
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When you look at the ORG chart of the State Department,
it's like looking at something between a Rubik's cube, Egyptian
hieroglyphics and an en run accounting sheet balance. Nothing adds up.
Everything takes way too long. There are too many cooks
in the kitchen. Secretary Rubio cited that to the decision
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memos that he gets, they're often six or seven people
within just one of the dozens of ORG charts who
need to approve, which means that everything is like you
know it requires the consensus. Building means everything's done business
as usual because so many people need to sign off
on it. No one wants to wants to step out
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and do something unusual, and so we just do the
same sort of usual democracy promotion blob craft, and it's
you know, packed with these dents terms in order to
make it palatable. Oftentimes that means you're sort of subtly
lying to the Secretary of State about what you're really
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doing or wordsmithing in order to get approval to do
deceptive things. And so that is being lasered out. And
by structuring it is a real reorg. It allows the
firing of thousands of people who otherwise would be able
to sue you in court or contest the cause of
the firing. So I support it in theory. My concern
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is by putting the power at the local embassy level,
it may allow the local embassies to deceive main state,
and that I think is a source of concern.
Speaker 1 (17:30):
Mike, I'm going to ask kind of a thirty thousand
foot view question because I can actually see this same
question going through everyone's mind as they watch this. When
most people think about a state department, anyone's, but will
make it about ours. They think about a US embassy
in France, and what do they do. They put on
fancy dinners, they do diplomacy, right. They have a dinner,
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they have a meeting, they talk about Trump's new trade policy.
That doesn't sound like at all what our State Department does.
Speaker 4 (17:59):
Mike, Oh no, Now, well, you know, I think it
was Jeffrey Sachs who had this quote, which is, you know,
what is the only reason that the US is like
the only country on earth that's never been overthrown in
a revolution from inside itself? And the answer is because
the United States is the only country that doesn't have
a US embassy. What the US embassy does in a
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foreign country is it it's responsible for handling all American
interests inside the country. So oftentimes, for example, if a
sensitive political figure gets arrested in the country, the embassy
will step in. Or if there are as you mentioned,
trade relations or some law impacting US interests, the State
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Department will send a delegation. But the other thing the
State Department does it's embassy in a country is it
works with the political groups. It works with the civil
society organizations, It works with the NGOs, it works with
the unionions. It works with the judiciary through its rule
of law programs, So it works with the judges, It
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works with the parliamentarians in addition to working with the president.
So because the State Department is tentacles into every aspect
of that country's life. It can manipulate every aspect of
that country's life in order to turn that country's institutions
against its government. And this is the main stock in trade.
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This is how you see figures like Victoria Newland spending
thirty years at the State Department, serving as effectively the
angel of Death at Passover, just sort of going door
to door, country to country and delivering the hand of God,
which happens to be the Secretary of State's death notice
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to a government that its democratic life has run out.
She was the under Secretary for Political Affairs at the
State Department, which is the worldwide head of all all
things related to political affairs in every country on planet Earth.
And political affairs, as you can imagine, is something that
touches every single one of these things. It's if we
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don't like that country's politics, we can simply whip up
the public the Political Affairs Office, as well as the Democracy,
Human Rights and Labor Office, as well as whatever regional office.
Speaker 6 (20:25):
The State Department is to.
Speaker 4 (20:26):
Create this surround sound in that country's media, to create
the surround sound in that country's thought leadership through its universities,
it's legal scholars, it's judges, it's parliamentarians, it's business leaders,
until the whole country looks.
Speaker 6 (20:40):
Like And this is the thing is people who live.
Speaker 4 (20:42):
In these countries don't very rarely see it coming, or
if they do see it coming, they simply can't out
muscle the State Department's budget, which is often which is
of course supplemented at all times by USAID. The NGO
complex and often gets top up funding from the US
military through its Civil Military branch, which concerns civil affairs.
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So it really is an orchestra conductor of all things
regime change. And my concern with the reorganization as it's
been articulated, and I'm sure more details will be forthcoming,
is I've seen these regional branches deceive Maine State in DC.
Speaker 6 (21:23):
With my own eyes.
Speaker 4 (21:24):
I don't like the idea of them getting more power
because I could see a small enclave at the embassy
if it's given more power, simply hiding what it's doing
or misreporting what it's doing to the main State Department
and thereby undermining the purpose of the whole reorganization. But
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we'll see how it's actually structured. I am excited about
the direction things are taking.
Speaker 1 (21:51):
Okay, can you lay that out for me, Mike, because
you've touched on that already a couple times, about how
these people at the State Department will just do whatever
they want instead of what the President wants, or even
maybe what the Secretary of State wants, or even what
the ambassador in that particular embassy wants. How does that work?
I got some I'm used to the civilian world. My
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only government job was the Marine Corps. I didn't You
don't get to do whatever you want?
Speaker 2 (22:16):
Doesn't the boss watch what?
Speaker 6 (22:20):
Well?
Speaker 4 (22:21):
As you can imagine probably that if you can simply
look at the physiognomy of the average diplomat or State
Department employee, they're not exactly built for cage fights. But
one thing they are built for is clever deception. And
this is you know, if you've ever seen something like
Game of Thrones and are familiar with characters like little Finger,
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that's pretty much the resume you need to submit to
get a job at the State Department. How much how
little Finger are you? And this practice of deception takes
many forms. First of all, you know, someone living in
Foggy Bottom d does not have direct boots on the
ground in a local country, whether that be Columbia, Peru, Ecuador, Ukraine, Bangladesh,
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name any country on the map, and they are reliant
on the State Department to report back to them what
is going on, the local embassy to report back to
them what is going on, what happened in the conversations,
whether or not the actual field evidence to support what
the local embassy wants to do, comes from the local
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NGOs working with that embassy, so they can engineer evidence.
They can also back channel with donors and stakeholders that
a Secretary of State may feel beholden to. So even
if the Secretary of State doesn't want to do something, necessarily,
things can be shaped in terms of the language, things
can be misreported. In terms of the evidence, they can
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be greatly exaggerated. The local embassy can come in not
just with the delegation that sends to the foreign country,
but it can come in effectively with a delegation of
supporting congressmen, or supporting donors or supporting folks who can
put pressure on the Secretary of State to do something
they don't really want to do, and in conjunction with
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being deceived about what the thing really entails. They end
up green lighting in a decision membo something that if
they had a clean conscience, or if it was presented
to them honestly, they would not or they weren't under
a tremendous amount of pressure at the coalition level, they
would not do. And you see this. Everyone in the
local embassy knows this. And the great game is to
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get approval for things that you know you shouldn't be doing.
And this is what allows the long leash for the
pitbull to essentially escape into low Earth orbit and eat everything,
not just around the lawn, but even things way outside
in outer space where no dogs should belong.
Speaker 1 (25:01):
Okay, So, Mike, if you're dictator for a day or I,
we'll just set that aside. If you're Donald Trump, if
you're Marco Rubio, if you're how do you handle this?
This sounds I don't want to sound the fetus. This
sounds almost like an impossible problem to wrap your arms around.
Speaker 4 (25:19):
Well, I actually think they're beginning the process of wrapping
their arms around it through this reorganization and through the
other actions I've seen them take, like the disclosure of
the Global Engagement Center, which was its own octopus to
wrap its arms around. The beauty of the reorganization is
it allows the mass firing of career career State Department
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blob monsters who are who out flank because they so
outnumber the political appointees. There's all these little little fingers
are always running around trying to undercut the politicals. I
felt this myself when I was in there. And this
also remember that careers at the State Department they go
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through Republicans, they go through Democrats, so they're familiar working
both sides of the aisle and the tactics and coalitions
they need from the inside in order to undercut the politicals.
And this is also meant that there has been no
pro Trump agenda folks at State Department who are mature
in the state, in the State Department, career civil service,
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because anyone who's lasted thirty or forty years at the
State Department means that they've gone through Reagan, they've gone
through Clinton, they've gone through Obama, and they were put
in through one of those presidents. The most mature person
who's got a pro Trump agenda inside State as we speak,
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could have even theoretically only been there for eight years,
which means there's a seniority match right now when you
look at the simple composition of folks who are either
Bushies or Biden nights, and there's really very there's almost
no civil service for Trump bites. And this reorganization will
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actually allow that process to play out much much faster
because they will simply be outnumbered by a far fewer count.
Speaker 6 (27:20):
And so, you know, one of the ways to you know,
dare I say, cut.
Speaker 4 (27:25):
Down on the proportion of being outnumbered by these little
finger types is to have enough of your own in
there that it's effectively a fair fight. And so I
think this is an amazing step in that process. It's
coming just three months into the Trump administration. It never
happened at all during Trump one point zero, which is
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what allowed the State Department to run roughshod over the
White House. So the fact that they're attacking it hard,
and they're attacking it early, just like they did with USAID,
just like they're doing at the National Science Foundation level,
and just like they're doing at the NGO front level,
I think is just a massive sign of encouragement to
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the American people that they're delivering on promises.
Speaker 2 (28:10):
Mike.
Speaker 1 (28:10):
A final subject for this whole thing here, shifting years
away from the State Department is the Pentagon.
Speaker 2 (28:15):
The Pentagon can't pass an audit.
Speaker 1 (28:18):
Trump is out there talking about giving them a trillion
dollar budget, but this is a corrupt, criminal organization that
is obviously swindling money and sending it somewhere right.
Speaker 4 (28:30):
Yeah, yeah, Oh, it's super nasty, and I am very
reticent about a trillion dollar Pentagon budget. If you're going
to do something like that, do it in year two
after you've got a massive reorg at the Pentagon that
shows reform at a fundamental level. I would like to
see the Pentagon come out and match the State Department's
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reorganization project and say that they've cut one hundred and
fifty agencies. The fact is is the Pentagon is where
the real mundy is. Even at the state level. As
I mentioned the civil Military Affairs branch, they of the
Pentagon plays in civilian politics because the Pentagon says that
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it has an interest in the laws of a country,
in the president of a country, in the political affairs
of a country, because that impacts the military aspects of
that country in terms of its partnerships, its capacities, whether
or not there's a US military base, whether or not
their own parliament is voting for funding to NATO or
for funding to a foreign war in partnership with the US.
Speaker 6 (29:37):
And so the Pentagon also.
Speaker 4 (29:39):
Plays regime change games in tandem with the State Department
in USAID. This is what Hillary Clinton called the three
d's diplomacy, Defense and developed and development meaning diplomacy, State Department,
Defense meaning Pentagon, USAI, D meaning development. And this three
D model is what has allowed so much of this,
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So much of these Pentagon funds, which people think are
going to you know, buy tanks and bullets, they end
up going into buying senators and congressmen and NGOs. And
so this is a massive, massive problem. And you know,
by some counts, the you know, the Street reported a
thirty five trillion dollar accounting black hole in the Pentagon
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back in twenty twenty. If if those numbers are true,
that would be larger than the entire US national debt,
just with the amount of money that's gone missing from
the Pentagon, which is just a stunning figure. And I
don't like the idea of cutting USAID, reorganizing the State Department,
and then having the Defense Department offset all of those
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gains by having its own civil military folks take up
the function that used to be done by State and USAID.
So we really should have a reorganization announced to the
Pentagon that goes through the same process. It evades this
whole legal challenge by simply eliminating functions entirely, eliminating sub
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agencies entirely, and resulting in mass firings in the process.
That will allow some evening out of the composition of
the internal careers at the Pentagon, which has that same
problem as I mentioned, through the civil service that's at
State and USAID.
Speaker 1 (31:27):
Mike, We've got a lot of problems. Thank you for
joining us and laying them all out for us. I
appreciate you, brother. All Right, Steve Days is going to
join us talk a little bit about this AGSSS stuff
and more. Next, I love my cell phoned company. I
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Speaker 7 (32:53):
We're also welcoming back former service members who were wrongly
forced to leave the military. More than eighty seven hundred
service members were involuntarily separated or not taking an experimental
COVID nineteen vaccine.
Speaker 2 (33:11):
Others were more.
Speaker 7 (33:12):
Informally pushed out or decided to get out. We are
welcoming actively back those warriors of conscience. We set letters out,
we're seeking them out. We want them back. They never
should have been forced to come back. Quickly, Personal and
Readiness Department is working in real time to make that
process more and more efficient, more and more direct. Every
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single day.
Speaker 1 (33:38):
It's awesome. I can't tell if it makes me happy
or angry. I'm happy about Pete doing it. I'm happy
that Trump administration's doing it. But it just brings back
all these old anger sharks inside of me, remembering that
we just kicked out thousands of our most patriotic citizens
because they didn't want to stroke when they were twenty
five years old. Joining me now my friend Steve Dace,
(33:58):
host of the incredible shit show, The Steve Days Show. Okay, Steve,
I don't know if I'm happy or mad about all this.
It just brings back all that COVID tyranny, and I
really need somebody to go to prison.
Speaker 2 (34:09):
Steve.
Speaker 8 (34:10):
I don't think you're I don't think you're alone in that, Jesse.
And ultimately, you know you and I are both parents,
and anybody who's been a parent for more than approximately
five minutes realizes that without consequences, you get more of
what you've essentially incentivized with your lack of action. I
think we also need to understand the level of bureaucracy
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that people like peaks at Pete Hegseeth are up against.
I mean, for example, a buddy of mine is Davis Johnson.
He was one of the very first attorneys that got
into this on behalf of these eight thousand plus soldiers
that were being really purged from the military for failure
to you know, be an experimental specimen for a non
authorized vaccine. And he was not happy with the initial
(34:53):
rollout of President Trump's executive order, but he stayed patient
and persistent. He was respectful but persu and then you know,
Pete came back with an ancillary statement. He referred to
it as an unlawful order, which now gives the attorneys
like Davis all the standing they need because what was
happening is a lot of the bureaucracy. Jesse was individually
(35:15):
still screwing with these members in their attempts to come
back by claiming, well, you still violated a lawfulitic, so
we don't have to give this to you. I mean,
they did not want to fulfill Trump's executive order. The bureaucracy, right,
And so I would imagine people like Pete Heseth, people
like Dan Bongino. I bet their phones are full of
people that know them and are friends of them, like us,
texting them all the time. Hey you see this, you
see this? You see this, You see this. There's literally
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twenty thousand things these guys probably get hit up on
just from the people that like them, on the stuff
they could do every day, on top of the bureaucracy
that's trying to screw them and knife them because they
hate us at the exact same time. And so you know,
I know this. I've lost over one hundred pounds in
my lifetime. It didn't gain that weight overnight. I'm not
going to lose it overnight. People need to go to prison.
I'm just not sure exactly what is the reasonable expectation
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to get to that point when we're still in the
process of even undoing all the evil that was done.
Speaker 2 (36:05):
Steve.
Speaker 1 (36:06):
I don't disagree with anything you just said. The problem
is for the American people when we've reached peak levels
of abuse from the government, censorship, COVID stuff.
Speaker 2 (36:15):
All this other stuff.
Speaker 1 (36:17):
We're at the point now, Steve, where it really doesn't
matter what you say, or what I say or anything
like that.
Speaker 2 (36:22):
The people are going to demand a scalp at some time. Agree.
Speaker 1 (36:26):
I'm several scalps. They simply will. There's nobody can talk
them down from that. They've seen enough where do we
go from here.
Speaker 8 (36:35):
Well, that's what we're trying to determine. And right now,
given where we're at as a country, we're kind of
a godless culture. So the idea of a constitutional republic
is just not achievable. We have a broken social compact
that almost half the country doesn't want to live the
way that our constitutional republic was framed and formed. And
so on one end, you have people that want the
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total state, They want the state in whom we live
and breathe, and in response to that, we are we
are now, you know, turning to I guess what I
would call red caesars, I would say the governor of
Florida was one of those. President Trump is certainly the
o G version of this. You've alluded to this when
you've talked about if the right does not get the
recompense that it deserves, where it will turn next Trump,
(37:18):
frankly with without the stuff that you're talking about and
that is needed. You are correct. Trump will actually be
the more the most benevolent form of this. I mean,
if you listen to the rhetoric of JD. Vance for example, Uh,
he's more maybe more tactical uh than than what Trump
has been in the past, but his rhetoric on these
issues and what needs to be done about them, frankly,
(37:38):
is often way more brutal in terms of substance than
even the stuff that Trump says.
Speaker 2 (37:43):
Uh.
Speaker 8 (37:43):
And and I think that is a that is a
window to the soul of what's going to happen here.
I mean, you know, Tucker Carlson likes to say, the
iron law of the universe bends to justice.
Speaker 2 (37:53):
Uh.
Speaker 8 (37:54):
Sooner or later there will be justice. That that is,
that is the arc of history. People will demand it
peaceably or otherwise. So you know, the problem this administration
has right now is they have a one term president,
a congress. Do you even know what a congress is, Jesse?
Do we even have a second branch of government. They
have worked forty days and been off thirty nine, all right,
(38:14):
And so they're literally doing nothing, which might be good
given how feckless they are. They might just get in
the way if they tried to do something, okay, So
basically it's the Trump administration versus the entire imperial armada.
That's essentially what it is. Right There's no backup plan.
There's very few governors that are really interested in getting
into this fight on a substantive level in their own states.
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And so we're going to be frustrated by the lack
of what this administration, even on its best days, will
be able to accomplish, and that frustration is going to
have our side turning to increasingly aggressive figures. I agree
with you on that.
Speaker 1 (38:49):
Speaking of justice, doctor Fauci, this is one of those things,
Steve that I mean, I get these emails, same one
as you get, Man, parents who lost the child, parents
who were injured, kids were injured, kids who.
Speaker 2 (39:03):
Missed a graduation.
Speaker 1 (39:04):
I realize half the country still worships this vicious little trouble,
but the other half of the countries watching him get
fat and rich in retirement and give press conference after
press conference about how he has no regrets. Every time
I see doctor Fauci speak and say something like that,
I say to myself, well, that's one step closer to
a dictator. That's the kind of stuff people can't take.
Speaker 2 (39:23):
Man of me too, I can take it. Listen.
Speaker 8 (39:26):
As far as I know, I'm the only person that's
written to best selling books about the scandemic. So I've
gotten to the point I've had to mute him in
my accounts. I can't look at him. It gets me
to a point of bile. It turns me into a
person I really don't want to be. I've done everything
I could do, Okay, I exhausted every avenue I possibly could.
To have some kind of reckoning on this, you know.
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I think Pete hegseth when he put out that video
statement the other day, Jesse saying, Hey, we're sorry, but
what would happen to these military members? You got screwed.
It was wrong, the order was unlawful. It shoudn't have happen.
And I think, is that the first time a member
of our federal government has said anything like that remotely
close to that? I think it might be.
Speaker 2 (40:09):
And think about that.
Speaker 8 (40:10):
And Pete wasn't even in power when any of that happened,
and he's the first person to say something, you know.
And so I see it in my feed too. I Mean,
I see a lot of people who love Robert F.
Kennedy Junior. It's like, hey, it's day sixty eight. Hey
it's day seventy two. Hey it's day seventy five. Why
aren't the COVID shots taking off the market yet? Okay,
so you're right, people's patience level, particularly the people that
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are the most engaged, is the most fraid it has
ever been. Okay, And that energy will not just dissipate
on its own. I mean, that's just not how human
nature works. That energy will either get justice through the
peaceable process. That is how history books work. People will
adjudicate these things through the peaceable process, or they'll use
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the unpeaceable processes to do so. That's just human history.
But that energy just never evaporates and goes away untreated.
Speaker 1 (41:01):
That brings me to Pam Bondy, Steve, and I am
not anti Pam BONDI. I'm very undecided on Pam Bondy.
Speaker 2 (41:09):
But I.
Speaker 1 (41:11):
Have this sense, this spidey sense keeps tingling my arm.
Hair is sticking up as we speak, Steve, I feel
like we're being played. I get press conference after press
conference about a drug bust, which is good. You know,
I love drug busts. We had one who was yesterday
day before. We have an anti Christian bias task force.
Speaker 2 (41:29):
That sounds great.
Speaker 1 (41:30):
All I'm all about tackling anti Christian bias. It feels
like I'm being given little little tidbits of things they
think I want because I'm not gonna get any of
the things I really want, Steve, which is government people
going to prison.
Speaker 2 (41:45):
Am I wrong?
Speaker 8 (41:47):
I don't think you're wrong, And I don't think given
her political track record, Pampondi has been around for a
long time, and and she's not like Pete Hexeth or
Bongino or any of those guys that have long track
records of pushing back against the system and standing with
the grassroots and the base. She's like a lot of Republicans.
Most Republicans aren't Rhinos, and most Republicans aren't us. Most Republicans,
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frankly are If you make it easy for me and profitable,
I will do the right thing. But if it requires
any exertion at all, any risk of even a morsel
a scentilla political capital, I cannot be bothered. I'm like
Bartleby the scribner, I would prefer not to okay, And
that's where she was, and you know, she actually comes
out of more of the Romney mainstream Republican wing. I
(42:29):
thought what happened a couple of months ago with the
quote unquote Epstein files struck me as someone who is
sort of playing up a stereotype of Trump influencers and
the Trump social media base what they think it is.
But they're not used to being with those people, so
they don't really know who they really are. And they
sort of gave them a karaoke version of it and
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it absolutely blew up in their faces, you know, And
so I can see why after that, you're getting a
feeling like I'm being kind of patronized here. You're giving
me morsels of what you think that I want, as
opposed to I want the real thing I want I want.
I mean, I want this straight no chaser. I don't
want light beer, okay, I mean I mean I want
a thick brown logger that one of them will put
(43:10):
me down on my back. That's what I want. And
you're not alone. And I think she's gonna have to
deliver something. I mean, the President just got asked about
this again just yesterday and was adamant, Hey, yeah, we're
working on this. So I think that was the maybe
the one big messaging misstep this White House has had
so far, and it was a big one because they
misstepped their own base. And this next time, whenever they
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say they're gonna give this stuff to us, they better
have something. What I don't understand, Jesse. Is this Gleaine
Maxwell's in prison for sex trafficking to somebody? They have
some name, They have a name of somebody. Otherwise, why
is she in prison? I mean, you can't human traffic
to yourself, okay, and so she human traffic to somebody
that could at least give us the name. Give us
the name then of a foreigner, someone they couldn't arrest,
(43:53):
but they know that she trafficked to as like a
good an earnest down payment, like in any major transaction,
you put money grow, you put a down payment down.
You're to show you're sincere about paying this thing off later.
Give us just one single name of somebody Glene Maxwell
sex traffic too, just to show us that you're actually
serious about this. Because she can't be in prison for
sex trafficking to nobody, and if she is well, then
(44:16):
I guess the Supreme Court should go ahead and overturn
her conviction on appeal, which is what they're considering right now.
She either said there to be a sex trafficker, brother,
there's got to be a sex traffick eat right.
Speaker 2 (44:26):
Wow, give us an Italian.
Speaker 1 (44:28):
Everyone's always game from one of those that's what I
want to see, Steve. Thank you, brother, I appreciate it
pretty much.
Speaker 2 (44:36):
Final thoughts next.
Speaker 1 (44:45):
I love sleeping. I sleep good all the time. I've
looked I'm a natural sleeper, but as somebody who is
a natural sleeper, I've always had to be very careful
when I take something to sleep, because I have my
moments where I've had to much caffeine or the day
was too stressful. If I take really anything, anything I've
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ever taken my entire life, I'll sleep forever, and then
I'll wake up and I'll feel who were horrible every
single time? But I wake up and I want to die.
That's why I love dreampowder from Beam so much. I
feel good, I feel rested, not groggy. That's because it's natural.
Speaker 2 (45:23):
You see.
Speaker 1 (45:24):
It's a cup of hot chocolate, which is delicious. I
love hot chocolate anyway, but it's natural. It as melatonin
and rachi and all kinds of things in it. It
puts you to sleep, You'll stay asleep and you'll wake
up feel unrested. Go to Shopbeam dot com, slash Jesse Kelly,
get yourself a bag. Today government people have to go
(45:52):
to prison and it's not because I'm vengeful, not because
I'm vindictive.
Speaker 2 (45:56):
It's because I want my country to prosper.
Speaker 1 (45:59):
I want my country to remain and we cannot do
that with criminals running the United States of America. Criminals
have to face punishment, not just the gang banger either,
not just the illegal either, not just the government. Criminals
should be subjected to the exact same law as you
and I are. If anything, you could argue they should
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be subjected to tougher punishment than you and I are.
If we live in a country where they can just
commit crimes without consequence, then we don't live in a
country anymore. That's a fact. All right, We'll do it again.
All right, we're about to do a show on the
need for people to go to prison inside the government.
But let's talk about the why first, because that can
be that's really that's the main point of most.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Of these things.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
Why Well, crime and punishment it's been something that societies,
all societies have wrestled with, well in the history of mankind.
Hamer Abi, you've heard of Hamer Abi, doesn't matter if
you haven't heard of him. But he was ancient from
an ancient society. And Hamer Abbi was famous for what
they had, essentially a list of laws, a code. Hey,
(00:47):
if you do this, you'll do this. You take out
someone's eye, will take out your eye, that kind of thing.
Why was that so famous? Well, it showed that every
society has tried to figure out.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
What do we deal with crime? What's right?
Speaker 1 (01:02):
What's wrong we still do with it today? What's too harsh?
What's not harsh enough. If you have a murderer, should
you kill him, give him life in prison? Should you
torture him in the public square, pull his fingernails, I
leave him to starve to death, burn him alive? These
are real questions societies have dealt with throughout history. But
(01:23):
The reason societies have dealt with these questions is punishment
is necessary.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
You have to have it.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
Without some level of punishment, whether you're pulling fingernails out
or life in prison. Without some level of real, tangible punishment,
crime will simply run rampant.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
That we know too studying human history.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
You see it now, You see it now in America,
in big city after big city. Why are all these
crime numbers going up so much that they stopped reporting
the numbers to the FBI. What do you think that is?
Why do you think cities like New York stop reporting
the crime numbers to the FBI? They stopped prosecuting crime.
Crime went up. You have to punish crime. Picture this,
(02:07):
picture this. You are aware, at least vaguely aware. I
would assume that at some point in time mid twentieth century,
the United States government became aware and angry about the
presence of the mafia, the Italian mafia LaCOSA Nostra here
in the United States of America. And once the United
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States government took its eyes and focused on the Italian mafia,
they went after them doj FBI indictments, local police tasks,
task force, wire taps, you name it. They went after them. Now,
imagine this, Imagine this. Imagine the government went after the
Italian mafia in the mid twentieth century. Like I said,
(02:49):
all the wire taps, all the documentation, Hey we've got
you on camera shooting somebody, all these things, and at
the end of all that, the government said, all right,
it's a lot of murder, drug dealing, prostitution, mister mafia,
don I wants your.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
Letter of resignation today. It's a joke, isn't it. It's
not punishment.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
What incentive would any of those people have to change
their ways if the punishment on the back end was
early retirement probation. Criminals don't change their ways for that.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
That's not punishment.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
The United States government is the largest, most well funded,
ongoing criminal enterprise on the planet today.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
When you look at.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
The various crimes the millions of government people have committed
most of those crimes against you, it's it could take
your breath away when you actually just consider all the
horrible things these people have done. Let's look at COVID alone.
That Look, we could sit here for three hours and
go over the examples. Let's look at COVID alone. The
(04:04):
United States government just started issuing rules to destroy businesses,
to destroy your child's education, to do things to control
your body. The United States government, the American president actually
at one point in time told the American people, this
(04:25):
was Joe Biden, that he was losing patience with us.
And then they announced Remember when they announced that you
would be fired if you didn't take a COVID vaccine.
You understand that alone. Pause that alone, that's tyrannical, that's insane,
that's criminal. And the people who pushed these crimes, the
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people who did these crimes, it's not just that they
were never prosecuted. They laugh at the very idea that
they might be prosecuted. He was Bauci and her Cruz
told the Attorney general, you should be prosecuted.
Speaker 3 (04:59):
Yeah, I'd have to laugh at that.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
I should be prosecuted. What happened on January sixth, Senator,
I have to laugh at that.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
It's not just that the government is full of criminals,
it's that they operate without fear, with no fear whatsoever.
In fact, they're handsomely rewarded. Remember the things doctor Fauci did.
He not only tried to and successfully did, destroy the
careers of scientists who were saying, Hey, I don't think COVID.
(05:41):
I don't think it came from a wet market. It
probably came from the lab over there. Doctor Fauci, that
evil little troll destroyed those people.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
In the height of the pandemic.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
He was the highest paid government employee, made more money
than the president, destroy lives, lying at every turn, wrecking
your business, your health, your child's health, without a care
in the world, and so carefree was he about the
whole thing, and it was so lucrative for him.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
He's out there dreaming about the next one.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
What is likely to happen, I don't know if it's
going to be next year or ten years, or fifteen
or twenty years from now. Is the emergence of another
respiratory disease. It may be another coronavirus, because we know
that coronaviruses, really mostly in bats, have the capability of
binding to receptors that are in humans. It could be
(06:41):
another flu. We're dealing with age five and one now,
which is bird flu, which has taken the somewhat disturbing
step of infecting mammals, namely cows and cats and other mammals,
which means it's adapting itself more do we human? So
(07:02):
my concern, well do is that whenever that happens, the
next outbreak will be of a respiratory disease that's easily transmissible,
that has a significant degree of morbidity.
Speaker 4 (07:12):
And we are making this a little bit more dangerous
with the cuts and our attitude to its science.
Speaker 1 (07:18):
Oh absolutely, yeah, can't cut any of my funding.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
The next one's going to be deadlier.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
It was heaven for these people, which brings me to
the Department of Justice, because look, the whole point of
this show is government people have to go to prison.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
Why hasn't that happened? It really hasn't happened.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
I know, there's always a Bob Menendez who gets caught
with gold bars under his bed and stacks of cash
and his soup pockets. I know, But in general, why
don't these government people go to prison?
Speaker 2 (07:52):
Well?
Speaker 1 (07:53):
How many times during this show have you seen me
ask a United States Senator or a United States Congressman
what can be done to this person? Okay, this person lied,
this person did wrong? What can be done? What can
be done? And what do they say to me? Every
single time? Every single time they say, well, we referred
them to the DOJ for prosecution. Now it's up to them.
(08:18):
We referred them to the DOJ for prosecution. Now it's
up to them. The Department of Justice is supposed to
be the top law enforcement agency enforcing these laws, not
just against you, non government worker, against people inside of
the federal government, but instead, the Department of Justice under
(08:41):
Democrats and Republicans has become the shield of government criminality
because they never, ever, ever actually prosecute government criminals. And
I am starting to get very very concerned that Pambondi
is going to follow along the exact samees every other
(09:01):
age he did, from Eric Order to Bill Barr to
Jeff's sessions that we could go on down the list.
You know why because instead of getting press conferences about
the FBI agent who's about to be marched off in chains,
I get press conferences like this.
Speaker 5 (09:18):
We will find out who you are and we will
come after you. Domestic terrorists, foreign terrorist you better look
out because we're coming after you. And if you've committed fraud,
we're coming after you. You better watch out because we're
coming after you. Let me be very clear, if you
don't comply with federal law, you're going to be next.
Let this be a warning. You can run, but you
(09:38):
cannot hide. Justice is coming.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
Justice is coming. Okay.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
I wonder if Alejandro majorcis you see he was DHS head,
you remember that, right, head of the Department of Homeland Security.
That puts him overboard, but ice, that puts him as
we'll call him top security guard if you will, for America,
and as top security guard of America, he forced open
(10:12):
the door, allowed as many foreigners as he possibly could
into the country. Criminals, rapist, murderers, drug dealers. He flew
as many as he could into the country.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
I wonder, I wonder if.
Speaker 1 (10:24):
He's sitting around afraid that Pam Bondi's coming after him.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
Let's check in with him. I am very proud of
what we did do. I would have liked to have
a wrestled with the question of communication and narration some more.
Doesn't seem like he's about to be in leg irons,
(10:48):
does it?
Speaker 1 (10:50):
And that's the problem. All that may have made you uncomfortable,
but I am right. We have a great show for
young Let's talk about your shoes and no, look it's me,
you know, I'm not judging you for any kind of
(11:11):
fashion choices you've made. I wouldn't be qualified to do
so anyway. My wife has to talk me out of
wearing sweats. I'm worried about.
Speaker 2 (11:20):
Your shoes though.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
Your knees, your back, your hips, your feet, How do
they feel at the end of the.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
Day, tired? Soar even that's your shoes, man, That's why
gravity to fire exists. G TOPHI. If you have to
shorten it up, it's shoes. But dunique shoes.
Speaker 1 (11:41):
You see, they have this special technology in them that
makes it easier on your whole body as you walk around.
Your crappy shoes are causing pain in your hips, in
your knees, in your feet, in your back.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
Do you want to get rid of that?
Speaker 1 (11:58):
Just try try one pair and I bet you'll own
five of them eventually. That's how incredible these things are.
They're miraculous. Listen, you want a nice deal, text Jesse
to nine one eight eight that gets you thirty percent
off orders one hundred and twenty bucks or more Jesse
(12:18):
to nine one eight eight. The State Department would be
a good place throwing people in prison. State Department has
been taking your money and politicking with it across the globe.
It's not even doing it domestically, it makes it maybe worse.
(12:38):
Joining me now to discuss the problems at the State Department.
Mike Ben's, executive director of the Foundation for Freedom Online. Hey, Mike,
what have they been doing for well, the forty three
years of my lifetime over there at the State Department.
Speaker 4 (12:53):
Well, they've been managing the American world empire. The State
Department really is at at the top of the pyramid
of power in the US government. It is where all
world affairs are effectively managed. Now, it's supposed to be
done so in conjunction with the White House through the
National Security Council, but it often has a mind of
(13:14):
its own, and this is exactly what's driving the massive
reorganization that was just announced at the State Department. And
I should note that Secretary of Rubio as well as
Under Secretary of State for Public Diplomacy Darren Beatty, deserve
a massive round of applause and thank you from the
American people, in my view, for the actions taken last
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week to eradicate the remnant of the Global Engagement Center,
which was really the first ever government censorship agency within
the US government explicitly designed to censor social media. It
had tucked itself away after its legal statutory sunset in
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a group called ur FEME, which is our just means
public diplomacy. FEMI is the foreign influence malign influence. And
what they did is since they knew that there was
no way to fire these people there were about fifty
full time positions, there was no way to fire these
people without triggering a giant union fight and legal challenges,
they simply eradicated the entire office, as corporations do sometimes
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to avoid lawsuits. They simply get rid of the role entirely,
and that has allowed a really seamless transition back to
a free speech focus. Although there are several other offices involved,
and that is part of what this reorganization is about.
There are one hundred and thirty two sub agencies within
the State Department that are now being eliminated per this
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new reorganization, and these include things like the Countering Extremism capacity,
which was of course used to target every populous leader
on planet Earth. These include these human rights offices, which
are almost always an excuse to try to string up
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people on charges and create predicates, whether real or often false,
in order to create a propaganda swing for an international
coalition to come in and bring in things like transitional
justice and these rule of law programs to legally target
political enemies. Now, what Secretary Rubio is saying is that
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that capacity will remain, but it will be run out
of the US embassies rather than centrally at Foggy Bottom
at the Harry S. Truman Building, which is State Department HQ.
And I have my own thoughts about the nature of
this re org. I think that Secretary Rubio is absolutely correct.
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When you look at the ORG chart of the State Department,
it's like looking at something between a Rubik's cube, Egyptian
hieroglyphics and an en run accounting sheet balance. Nothing adds up.
Everything takes way too long. There are too many cooks
in the kitchen. Secretary Rubio cited that to the decision
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memos that he gets, they're often six or seven people
within just one of the dozens of ORG charts who
need to approve, which means that everything is like you
know it requires the consensus. Building means everything's done business
as usual because so many people need to sign off
on it. No one wants to wants to step out
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and do something unusual, and so we just do the
same sort of usual democracy promotion blob craft, and it's
you know, packed with these dents terms in order to
make it palatable. Oftentimes that means you're sort of subtly
lying to the Secretary of State about what you're really
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doing or wordsmithing in order to get approval to do
deceptive things. And so that is being lasered out. And
by structuring it is a real reorg. It allows the
firing of thousands of people who otherwise would be able
to sue you in court or contest the cause of
the firing. So I support it in theory. My concern
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is by putting the power at the local embassy level,
it may allow the local embassies to deceive main state,
and that I think is a source of concern.
Speaker 1 (17:30):
Mike, I'm going to ask kind of a thirty thousand
foot view question because I can actually see this same
question going through everyone's mind as they watch this. When
most people think about a state department, anyone's, but will
make it about ours. They think about a US embassy
in France, and what do they do. They put on
fancy dinners, they do diplomacy, right. They have a dinner,
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they have a meeting, they talk about Trump's new trade policy.
That doesn't sound like at all what our State Department does.
Speaker 4 (17:59):
Mike, Oh no, Now, well, you know, I think it
was Jeffrey Sachs who had this quote, which is, you know,
what is the only reason that the US is like
the only country on earth that's never been overthrown in
a revolution from inside itself? And the answer is because
the United States is the only country that doesn't have
a US embassy. What the US embassy does in a
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foreign country is it it's responsible for handling all American
interests inside the country. So oftentimes, for example, if a
sensitive political figure gets arrested in the country, the embassy
will step in. Or if there are as you mentioned,
trade relations or some law impacting US interests, the State
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Department will send a delegation. But the other thing the
State Department does it's embassy in a country is it
works with the political groups. It works with the civil
society organizations, It works with the NGOs, it works with
the unionions. It works with the judiciary through its rule
of law programs, So it works with the judges, It
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works with the parliamentarians in addition to working with the president.
So because the State Department is tentacles into every aspect
of that country's life. It can manipulate every aspect of
that country's life in order to turn that country's institutions
against its government. And this is the main stock in trade.
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This is how you see figures like Victoria Newland spending
thirty years at the State Department, serving as effectively the
angel of Death at Passover, just sort of going door
to door, country to country and delivering the hand of God,
which happens to be the Secretary of State's death notice
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to a government that its democratic life has run out.
She was the under Secretary for Political Affairs at the
State Department, which is the worldwide head of all all
things related to political affairs in every country on planet Earth.
And political affairs, as you can imagine, is something that
touches every single one of these things. It's if we
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don't like that country's politics, we can simply whip up
the public the Political Affairs Office, as well as the Democracy,
Human Rights and Labor Office, as well as whatever regional office.
Speaker 6 (20:25):
The State Department is to.
Speaker 4 (20:26):
Create this surround sound in that country's media, to create
the surround sound in that country's thought leadership through its universities,
it's legal scholars, it's judges, it's parliamentarians, it's business leaders,
until the whole country looks.
Speaker 6 (20:40):
Like And this is the thing is people who live.
Speaker 4 (20:42):
In these countries don't very rarely see it coming, or
if they do see it coming, they simply can't out
muscle the State Department's budget, which is often which is
of course supplemented at all times by USAID. The NGO
complex and often gets top up funding from the US
military through its Civil Military branch, which concerns civil affairs.
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So it really is an orchestra conductor of all things
regime change. And my concern with the reorganization as it's
been articulated, and I'm sure more details will be forthcoming,
is I've seen these regional branches deceive Maine State in DC.
Speaker 6 (21:23):
With my own eyes.
Speaker 4 (21:24):
I don't like the idea of them getting more power
because I could see a small enclave at the embassy
if it's given more power, simply hiding what it's doing
or misreporting what it's doing to the main State Department
and thereby undermining the purpose of the whole reorganization. But
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we'll see how it's actually structured. I am excited about
the direction things are taking.
Speaker 1 (21:51):
Okay, can you lay that out for me, Mike, because
you've touched on that already a couple times, about how
these people at the State Department will just do whatever
they want instead of what the President wants, or even
maybe what the Secretary of State wants, or even what
the ambassador in that particular embassy wants. How does that work?
I got some I'm used to the civilian world. My
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only government job was the Marine Corps. I didn't You
don't get to do whatever you want?
Speaker 2 (22:16):
Doesn't the boss watch what?
Speaker 6 (22:20):
Well?
Speaker 4 (22:21):
As you can imagine probably that if you can simply
look at the physiognomy of the average diplomat or State
Department employee, they're not exactly built for cage fights. But
one thing they are built for is clever deception. And
this is you know, if you've ever seen something like
Game of Thrones and are familiar with characters like little Finger,
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that's pretty much the resume you need to submit to
get a job at the State Department. How much how
little Finger are you? And this practice of deception takes
many forms. First of all, you know, someone living in
Foggy Bottom d does not have direct boots on the
ground in a local country, whether that be Columbia, Peru, Ecuador, Ukraine, Bangladesh,
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name any country on the map, and they are reliant
on the State Department to report back to them what
is going on, the local embassy to report back to
them what is going on, what happened in the conversations,
whether or not the actual field evidence to support what
the local embassy wants to do, comes from the local
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NGOs working with that embassy, so they can engineer evidence.
They can also back channel with donors and stakeholders that
a Secretary of State may feel beholden to. So even
if the Secretary of State doesn't want to do something, necessarily,
things can be shaped in terms of the language, things
can be misreported. In terms of the evidence, they can
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be greatly exaggerated. The local embassy can come in not
just with the delegation that sends to the foreign country,
but it can come in effectively with a delegation of
supporting congressmen, or supporting donors or supporting folks who can
put pressure on the Secretary of State to do something
they don't really want to do, and in conjunction with
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being deceived about what the thing really entails. They end
up green lighting in a decision membo something that if
they had a clean conscience, or if it was presented
to them honestly, they would not or they weren't under
a tremendous amount of pressure at the coalition level, they
would not do. And you see this. Everyone in the
local embassy knows this. And the great game is to
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get approval for things that you know you shouldn't be doing.
And this is what allows the long leash for the
pitbull to essentially escape into low Earth orbit and eat everything,
not just around the lawn, but even things way outside
in outer space where no dogs should belong.
Speaker 1 (25:01):
Okay, So, Mike, if you're dictator for a day or I,
we'll just set that aside. If you're Donald Trump, if
you're Marco Rubio, if you're how do you handle this?
This sounds I don't want to sound the fetus. This
sounds almost like an impossible problem to wrap your arms around.
Speaker 4 (25:19):
Well, I actually think they're beginning the process of wrapping
their arms around it through this reorganization and through the
other actions I've seen them take, like the disclosure of
the Global Engagement Center, which was its own octopus to
wrap its arms around. The beauty of the reorganization is
it allows the mass firing of career career State Department
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blob monsters who are who out flank because they so
outnumber the political appointees. There's all these little little fingers
are always running around trying to undercut the politicals. I
felt this myself when I was in there. And this
also remember that careers at the State Department they go
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through Republicans, they go through Democrats, so they're familiar working
both sides of the aisle and the tactics and coalitions
they need from the inside in order to undercut the politicals.
And this is also meant that there has been no
pro Trump agenda folks at State Department who are mature
in the state, in the State Department, career civil service,
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because anyone who's lasted thirty or forty years at the
State Department means that they've gone through Reagan, they've gone
through Clinton, they've gone through Obama, and they were put
in through one of those presidents. The most mature person
who's got a pro Trump agenda inside State as we speak,
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could have even theoretically only been there for eight years,
which means there's a seniority match right now when you
look at the simple composition of folks who are either
Bushies or Biden nights, and there's really very there's almost
no civil service for Trump bites. And this reorganization will
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actually allow that process to play out much much faster
because they will simply be outnumbered by a far fewer count.
Speaker 6 (27:20):
And so, you know, one of the ways to you know,
dare I say, cut.
Speaker 4 (27:25):
Down on the proportion of being outnumbered by these little
finger types is to have enough of your own in
there that it's effectively a fair fight. And so I
think this is an amazing step in that process. It's
coming just three months into the Trump administration. It never
happened at all during Trump one point zero, which is
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what allowed the State Department to run roughshod over the
White House. So the fact that they're attacking it hard,
and they're attacking it early, just like they did with USAID,
just like they're doing at the National Science Foundation level,
and just like they're doing at the NGO front level,
I think is just a massive sign of encouragement to
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the American people that they're delivering on promises.
Speaker 2 (28:10):
Mike.
Speaker 1 (28:10):
A final subject for this whole thing here, shifting years
away from the State Department is the Pentagon.
Speaker 2 (28:15):
The Pentagon can't pass an audit.
Speaker 1 (28:18):
Trump is out there talking about giving them a trillion
dollar budget, but this is a corrupt, criminal organization that
is obviously swindling money and sending it somewhere right.
Speaker 4 (28:30):
Yeah, yeah, Oh, it's super nasty, and I am very
reticent about a trillion dollar Pentagon budget. If you're going
to do something like that, do it in year two
after you've got a massive reorg at the Pentagon that
shows reform at a fundamental level. I would like to
see the Pentagon come out and match the State Department's
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reorganization project and say that they've cut one hundred and
fifty agencies. The fact is is the Pentagon is where
the real mundy is. Even at the state level. As
I mentioned the civil Military Affairs branch, they of the
Pentagon plays in civilian politics because the Pentagon says that
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it has an interest in the laws of a country,
in the president of a country, in the political affairs
of a country, because that impacts the military aspects of
that country in terms of its partnerships, its capacities, whether
or not there's a US military base, whether or not
their own parliament is voting for funding to NATO or
for funding to a foreign war in partnership with the US.
Speaker 6 (29:37):
And so the Pentagon also.
Speaker 4 (29:39):
Plays regime change games in tandem with the State Department
in USAID. This is what Hillary Clinton called the three
d's diplomacy, Defense and developed and development meaning diplomacy, State Department,
Defense meaning Pentagon, USAI, D meaning development. And this three
D model is what has allowed so much of this,
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So much of these Pentagon funds, which people think are
going to you know, buy tanks and bullets, they end
up going into buying senators and congressmen and NGOs. And
so this is a massive, massive problem. And you know,
by some counts, the you know, the Street reported a
thirty five trillion dollar accounting black hole in the Pentagon
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back in twenty twenty. If if those numbers are true,
that would be larger than the entire US national debt,
just with the amount of money that's gone missing from
the Pentagon, which is just a stunning figure. And I
don't like the idea of cutting USAID, reorganizing the State Department,
and then having the Defense Department offset all of those
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gains by having its own civil military folks take up
the function that used to be done by State and USAID.
So we really should have a reorganization announced to the
Pentagon that goes through the same process. It evades this
whole legal challenge by simply eliminating functions entirely, eliminating sub
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agencies entirely, and resulting in mass firings in the process.
That will allow some evening out of the composition of
the internal careers at the Pentagon, which has that same
problem as I mentioned, through the civil service that's at
State and USAID.
Speaker 1 (31:27):
Mike, We've got a lot of problems. Thank you for
joining us and laying them all out for us. I
appreciate you, brother. All Right, Steve Days is going to
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Speaker 7 (32:53):
We're also welcoming back former service members who were wrongly
forced to leave the military. More than eighty seven hundred
service members were involuntarily separated or not taking an experimental
COVID nineteen vaccine.
Speaker 2 (33:11):
Others were more.
Speaker 7 (33:12):
Informally pushed out or decided to get out. We are
welcoming actively back those warriors of conscience. We set letters out,
we're seeking them out. We want them back. They never
should have been forced to come back. Quickly, Personal and
Readiness Department is working in real time to make that
process more and more efficient, more and more direct. Every
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single day.
Speaker 1 (33:38):
It's awesome. I can't tell if it makes me happy
or angry. I'm happy about Pete doing it. I'm happy
that Trump administration's doing it. But it just brings back
all these old anger sharks inside of me, remembering that
we just kicked out thousands of our most patriotic citizens
because they didn't want to stroke when they were twenty
five years old. Joining me now my friend Steve Dace,
(33:58):
host of the incredible shit show, The Steve Days Show. Okay, Steve,
I don't know if I'm happy or mad about all this.
It just brings back all that COVID tyranny, and I
really need somebody to go to prison.
Speaker 2 (34:09):
Steve.
Speaker 8 (34:10):
I don't think you're I don't think you're alone in that, Jesse.
And ultimately, you know you and I are both parents,
and anybody who's been a parent for more than approximately
five minutes realizes that without consequences, you get more of
what you've essentially incentivized with your lack of action. I
think we also need to understand the level of bureaucracy
(34:31):
that people like peaks at Pete Hegseeth are up against.
I mean, for example, a buddy of mine is Davis Johnson.
He was one of the very first attorneys that got
into this on behalf of these eight thousand plus soldiers
that were being really purged from the military for failure
to you know, be an experimental specimen for a non
authorized vaccine. And he was not happy with the initial
(34:53):
rollout of President Trump's executive order, but he stayed patient
and persistent. He was respectful but persu and then you know,
Pete came back with an ancillary statement. He referred to
it as an unlawful order, which now gives the attorneys
like Davis all the standing they need because what was
happening is a lot of the bureaucracy. Jesse was individually
(35:15):
still screwing with these members in their attempts to come
back by claiming, well, you still violated a lawfulitic, so
we don't have to give this to you. I mean,
they did not want to fulfill Trump's executive order. The bureaucracy, right,
And so I would imagine people like Pete Heseth, people
like Dan Bongino. I bet their phones are full of
people that know them and are friends of them, like us,
texting them all the time. Hey you see this, you
see this? You see this, You see this. There's literally
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twenty thousand things these guys probably get hit up on
just from the people that like them, on the stuff
they could do every day, on top of the bureaucracy
that's trying to screw them and knife them because they
hate us at the exact same time. And so you know,
I know this. I've lost over one hundred pounds in
my lifetime. It didn't gain that weight overnight. I'm not
going to lose it overnight. People need to go to prison.
I'm just not sure exactly what is the reasonable expectation
(35:58):
to get to that point when we're still in the
process of even undoing all the evil that was done.
Speaker 2 (36:05):
Steve.
Speaker 1 (36:06):
I don't disagree with anything you just said. The problem
is for the American people when we've reached peak levels
of abuse from the government, censorship, COVID stuff.
Speaker 2 (36:15):
All this other stuff.
Speaker 1 (36:17):
We're at the point now, Steve, where it really doesn't
matter what you say, or what I say or anything
like that.
Speaker 2 (36:22):
The people are going to demand a scalp at some time. Agree.
Speaker 1 (36:26):
I'm several scalps. They simply will. There's nobody can talk
them down from that. They've seen enough where do we
go from here.
Speaker 8 (36:35):
Well, that's what we're trying to determine. And right now,
given where we're at as a country, we're kind of
a godless culture. So the idea of a constitutional republic
is just not achievable. We have a broken social compact
that almost half the country doesn't want to live the
way that our constitutional republic was framed and formed. And
so on one end, you have people that want the
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total state, They want the state in whom we live
and breathe, and in response to that, we are we
are now, you know, turning to I guess what I
would call red caesars, I would say the governor of
Florida was one of those. President Trump is certainly the
o G version of this. You've alluded to this when
you've talked about if the right does not get the
recompense that it deserves, where it will turn next Trump,
(37:18):
frankly with without the stuff that you're talking about and
that is needed. You are correct. Trump will actually be
the more the most benevolent form of this. I mean,
if you listen to the rhetoric of JD. Vance for example, Uh,
he's more maybe more tactical uh than than what Trump
has been in the past, but his rhetoric on these
issues and what needs to be done about them, frankly,
(37:38):
is often way more brutal in terms of substance than
even the stuff that Trump says.
Speaker 2 (37:43):
Uh.
Speaker 8 (37:43):
And and I think that is a that is a
window to the soul of what's going to happen here.
I mean, you know, Tucker Carlson likes to say, the
iron law of the universe bends to justice.
Speaker 2 (37:53):
Uh.
Speaker 8 (37:54):
Sooner or later there will be justice. That that is,
that is the arc of history. People will demand it
peaceably or otherwise. So you know, the problem this administration
has right now is they have a one term president,
a congress. Do you even know what a congress is, Jesse?
Do we even have a second branch of government. They
have worked forty days and been off thirty nine, all right,
(38:14):
And so they're literally doing nothing, which might be good
given how feckless they are. They might just get in
the way if they tried to do something, okay, So
basically it's the Trump administration versus the entire imperial armada.
That's essentially what it is. Right There's no backup plan.
There's very few governors that are really interested in getting
into this fight on a substantive level in their own states.
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And so we're going to be frustrated by the lack
of what this administration, even on its best days, will
be able to accomplish, and that frustration is going to
have our side turning to increasingly aggressive figures. I agree
with you on that.
Speaker 1 (38:49):
Speaking of justice, doctor Fauci, this is one of those things,
Steve that I mean, I get these emails, same one
as you get, Man, parents who lost the child, parents
who were injured, kids were injured, kids who.
Speaker 2 (39:03):
Missed a graduation.
Speaker 1 (39:04):
I realize half the country still worships this vicious little trouble,
but the other half of the countries watching him get
fat and rich in retirement and give press conference after
press conference about how he has no regrets. Every time
I see doctor Fauci speak and say something like that,
I say to myself, well, that's one step closer to
a dictator. That's the kind of stuff people can't take.
Speaker 2 (39:23):
Man of me too, I can take it. Listen.
Speaker 8 (39:26):
As far as I know, I'm the only person that's
written to best selling books about the scandemic. So I've
gotten to the point I've had to mute him in
my accounts. I can't look at him. It gets me
to a point of bile. It turns me into a
person I really don't want to be. I've done everything
I could do, Okay, I exhausted every avenue I possibly could.
To have some kind of reckoning on this, you know.
(39:49):
I think Pete hegseth when he put out that video
statement the other day, Jesse saying, Hey, we're sorry, but
what would happen to these military members? You got screwed.
It was wrong, the order was unlawful. It shoudn't have happen.
And I think, is that the first time a member
of our federal government has said anything like that remotely
close to that? I think it might be.
Speaker 2 (40:09):
And think about that.
Speaker 8 (40:10):
And Pete wasn't even in power when any of that happened,
and he's the first person to say something, you know.
And so I see it in my feed too. I Mean,
I see a lot of people who love Robert F.
Kennedy Junior. It's like, hey, it's day sixty eight. Hey
it's day seventy two. Hey it's day seventy five. Why
aren't the COVID shots taking off the market yet? Okay,
so you're right, people's patience level, particularly the people that
(40:32):
are the most engaged, is the most fraid it has
ever been. Okay, And that energy will not just dissipate
on its own. I mean, that's just not how human
nature works. That energy will either get justice through the
peaceable process. That is how history books work. People will
adjudicate these things through the peaceable process, or they'll use
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the unpeaceable processes to do so. That's just human history.
But that energy just never evaporates and goes away untreated.
Speaker 1 (41:01):
That brings me to Pam Bondy, Steve, and I am
not anti Pam BONDI. I'm very undecided on Pam Bondy.
Speaker 2 (41:09):
But I.
Speaker 1 (41:11):
Have this sense, this spidey sense keeps tingling my arm.
Hair is sticking up as we speak, Steve, I feel
like we're being played. I get press conference after press
conference about a drug bust, which is good. You know,
I love drug busts. We had one who was yesterday
day before. We have an anti Christian bias task force.
Speaker 2 (41:29):
That sounds great.
Speaker 1 (41:30):
All I'm all about tackling anti Christian bias. It feels
like I'm being given little little tidbits of things they
think I want because I'm not gonna get any of
the things I really want, Steve, which is government people
going to prison.
Speaker 2 (41:45):
Am I wrong?
Speaker 8 (41:47):
I don't think you're wrong, And I don't think given
her political track record, Pampondi has been around for a
long time, and and she's not like Pete Hexeth or
Bongino or any of those guys that have long track
records of pushing back against the system and standing with
the grassroots and the base. She's like a lot of Republicans.
Most Republicans aren't Rhinos, and most Republicans aren't us. Most Republicans,
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frankly are If you make it easy for me and profitable,
I will do the right thing. But if it requires
any exertion at all, any risk of even a morsel
a scentilla political capital, I cannot be bothered. I'm like
Bartleby the scribner, I would prefer not to okay, And
that's where she was, and you know, she actually comes
out of more of the Romney mainstream Republican wing. I
(42:29):
thought what happened a couple of months ago with the
quote unquote Epstein files struck me as someone who is
sort of playing up a stereotype of Trump influencers and
the Trump social media base what they think it is.
But they're not used to being with those people, so
they don't really know who they really are. And they
sort of gave them a karaoke version of it and
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it absolutely blew up in their faces, you know, And
so I can see why after that, you're getting a
feeling like I'm being kind of patronized here. You're giving
me morsels of what you think that I want, as
opposed to I want the real thing I want I want.
I mean, I want this straight no chaser. I don't
want light beer, okay, I mean I mean I want
a thick brown logger that one of them will put
(43:10):
me down on my back. That's what I want. And
you're not alone. And I think she's gonna have to
deliver something. I mean, the President just got asked about
this again just yesterday and was adamant, Hey, yeah, we're
working on this. So I think that was the maybe
the one big messaging misstep this White House has had
so far, and it was a big one because they
misstepped their own base. And this next time, whenever they
(43:32):
say they're gonna give this stuff to us, they better
have something. What I don't understand, Jesse. Is this Gleaine
Maxwell's in prison for sex trafficking to somebody? They have
some name, They have a name of somebody. Otherwise, why
is she in prison? I mean, you can't human traffic
to yourself, okay, and so she human traffic to somebody
that could at least give us the name. Give us
the name then of a foreigner, someone they couldn't arrest,
(43:53):
but they know that she trafficked to as like a
good an earnest down payment, like in any major transaction,
you put money grow, you put a down payment down.
You're to show you're sincere about paying this thing off later.
Give us just one single name of somebody Glene Maxwell
sex traffic too, just to show us that you're actually
serious about this. Because she can't be in prison for
sex trafficking to nobody, and if she is well, then
(44:16):
I guess the Supreme Court should go ahead and overturn
her conviction on appeal, which is what they're considering right now.
She either said there to be a sex trafficker, brother,
there's got to be a sex traffick eat right.
Speaker 2 (44:26):
Wow, give us an Italian.
Speaker 1 (44:28):
Everyone's always game from one of those that's what I
want to see, Steve. Thank you, brother, I appreciate it
pretty much.
Speaker 2 (44:36):
Final thoughts next.
Speaker 1 (44:45):
I love sleeping. I sleep good all the time. I've
looked I'm a natural sleeper, but as somebody who is
a natural sleeper, I've always had to be very careful
when I take something to sleep, because I have my
moments where I've had to much caffeine or the day
was too stressful. If I take really anything, anything I've
(45:06):
ever taken my entire life, I'll sleep forever, and then
I'll wake up and I'll feel who were horrible every
single time? But I wake up and I want to die.
That's why I love dreampowder from Beam so much. I
feel good, I feel rested, not groggy. That's because it's natural.
Speaker 2 (45:23):
You see.
Speaker 1 (45:24):
It's a cup of hot chocolate, which is delicious. I
love hot chocolate anyway, but it's natural. It as melatonin
and rachi and all kinds of things in it. It
puts you to sleep, You'll stay asleep and you'll wake
up feel unrested. Go to Shopbeam dot com, slash Jesse Kelly,
get yourself a bag. Today government people have to go
(45:52):
to prison and it's not because I'm vengeful, not because
I'm vindictive.
Speaker 2 (45:56):
It's because I want my country to prosper.
Speaker 1 (45:59):
I want my country to remain and we cannot do
that with criminals running the United States of America. Criminals
have to face punishment, not just the gang banger either,
not just the illegal either, not just the government. Criminals
should be subjected to the exact same law as you
and I are. If anything, you could argue they should
(46:21):
be subjected to tougher punishment than you and I are.
If we live in a country where they can just
commit crimes without consequence, then we don't live in a
country anymore. That's a fact. All right, We'll do it again.
Host
Jesse Kelly
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