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April 22, 2025 44 mins

In this explosive episode of I’m Right with Jesse Kelly, Jesse dives into the hottest issues shaking the nation. The Supreme Court delivers a stunning blow to President Trump’s deportation agenda. Jesse breaks down the ruling’s implications and why it’s sparking outrage. Next, the world mourns the passing of Pope Francis at 88, with Jesse examining the pontiff’s legacy and the ideological rift his immigration stance caused with Trump’s base. Plus, a bombshell White House medical report drops, raising eyebrows and questions about leadership—Jesse doesn’t hold back on what it means for America. Joined by fiery conservative commentators Liz Wheeler and Sara Gonzales, the trio tackles these stories with unapologetic truth. Tune in for a no-holds-barred discussion that cuts through the noise

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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Let's have a talk about the courts, the country, the constitution.

Speaker 2 (00:06):
Let's talk to Liz Wheeler.

Speaker 1 (00:07):
Trump made a big announcement. Sara Gonzalez is here. All
that more coming up tonight on I'm right, Okay, Before
we have a heavy, heavy talk about the constitution and
the country and the courts and deportation and all that

(00:30):
terrible stuff, which we'll get to in just a moment,
I want to get to this, which is more terrible. Obviously,
honoring the fallen. We lost a couple of Marines in
training last week, well, not training. They were on the
southern border. Okay, so they're down there for a reason.
It was a non combat thing. It happens. Vehicles crashed.

(00:52):
This was a vehicle accident. It's as common as anything.

Speaker 2 (00:56):
It happens.

Speaker 1 (00:56):
And in ancient times, men died falling off their horses. Okay, sucks,
but it happened, and they died serving their country. Lance
Corporal Albert Aguilera, who's twenty two years old, and Lance
Corporal Marcelino Gamino, he was twenty eight years old. Simplify,
young brothers. They gave their lives for this country. Honor

(01:18):
their sacrifice as we do here on the first All right, okay, now,
let's talk about the courts, the Trump administration, you and me.
Let's talk about the United States of America. And this
is going to come back to the Supreme Court. Just

(01:38):
let's give away the end of it here, in case
you weren't paying attention.

Speaker 2 (01:42):
Most everybody was.

Speaker 1 (01:43):
Over the weekend, the Supreme Court decided that the Trump
administration cannot use the Alien Enemies Act of seventeen ninety
eight to deport members of Trende Aragua, a prison gang.
Now I should be perfectly clear about this. It was

(02:04):
a temporary thing. The Supreme Court says, hey, you're not
allowed to deport them anymore. We have to wait on
this cord and that ord. We'll wait on a couple things,
but at least for now, you're not gonna do it.
We have to slow down and make sure we're doing
this the right way. So that is actually what I
wanted to talk to you about. And I am perfectly
aware that what I'm about to say is going to

(02:26):
chafe on.

Speaker 2 (02:27):
Many many people.

Speaker 1 (02:28):
You may get angry, you may turn off the television,
you may send me hate mail, and all that stuff
is fine. It doesn't change anything about what I'm going
to say. So here's what it is. First, I want
you to picture this. I want you to picture that
you you are playing Monopoly. Ca'm a monopoly against somebody

(02:52):
you don't like at all. Picture the person who's the
person you hate the most, Just you and them. You're
playing a game of monopoly, okay. And in Monopoly, as
you are well aware, even if you've never played it yourself,
there are rules.

Speaker 2 (03:06):
Of course.

Speaker 1 (03:07):
There's there's dice you have to roll to die. There
are different cards you want to try to land on
this property. There are little little little cards that random
that you get. Hey you get five hundred dollars, Hey
you owe five hundred dollars, Just random things like that.
I I am going to administer the rules of the game.

Speaker 2 (03:27):
There are rules of the game.

Speaker 1 (03:28):
I'm going to oversee the game and administer the rules
of the game.

Speaker 2 (03:32):
Now, let's say.

Speaker 1 (03:35):
The person you're playing against designs don't have any need
for these rules, no need for these rules at all.
So when it's time for them to cast to die,
instead of using the games die, they simp. They grab
the loaded die that they brought along that rules whatever
number they want. Now, this would be the point where
you would think I, the administrator, administrator of the rules,

(03:58):
would step in and say no, no, no, no no.

Speaker 2 (03:59):
But let them go. No, no, no, use your own guy.
It's it's all good there.

Speaker 1 (04:03):
When they get a chance card or something they don't like, oh,
pay ten percent in taxes.

Speaker 2 (04:08):
Don't like that, they just.

Speaker 1 (04:09):
Put it back and keep fishing till they get a
card they want me. I'm sitting there overseeing the whole thing.
No no, no, no, no, no, it's fine. Do whatever you want.
That's what I do when it's their turn. But then
when your turn comes along, you have to use You're
gonna use the dice. I give you the dice of
the game. No no, no, don't think you're gonna switch out

(04:30):
that chance card.

Speaker 2 (04:31):
Uh uh nope, nope, nope. You you do.

Speaker 1 (04:35):
The game the right way. You follow the rules. I
am the administrator, and you will follow the rules. Let
me ask you something. Who's going to win that game?
It's inevitable. The game cannot be won by you. It's
not humanly possible, especially when the administrator is very clearly

(04:56):
in on allowing them to do the most evil thing
in the world. And you have to follow the rules. Now,
let's talk about the country, the courts, immigration, the constitution.

Speaker 2 (05:11):
Let's chat, shall we one.

Speaker 1 (05:14):
Let me go ahead and get this out of the
way right off the bat. And I want to make
sure I'm crystal clear about this. Where we are as
a country. It saddens me a great deal what I'm
about to talk about. I don't celebrate. I'm not cheering
it on. I'm like, yeah, I think what I'm about

(05:35):
to talk about, what I'm about to say is the
most awful.

Speaker 2 (05:39):
Thing in the world.

Speaker 1 (05:40):
Because I want the United States of America to stay together,
to be a good, wonderful country that exists for my
kids and their kids and their kids after them.

Speaker 2 (05:49):
That's my desire. But here's where we are as a country.

Speaker 1 (05:55):
The American left hates the United States of America.

Speaker 2 (06:00):
But that's where we are. Half the country hates the country.

Speaker 1 (06:04):
And because they hate the country, when they are elected,
when they get power. You saw this for four years
under Joe Biden. A part of hating the country means
they will ignore every law, they will ignore every rule.
They will simply set these things aside, and they will
bring in as many barbarians, as many foreigners as they

(06:27):
can possibly bring in and the time they have, they
won't just open up the doors at the border. They
will fly them in as fast as they can. They
will take large chunks of your money, and they'll send
planes to other countries and load those planes full of
illegals and fly.

Speaker 2 (06:43):
Them into your town.

Speaker 1 (06:45):
That is how committed the communists are to destroying the
United States of America. And while Joe Biden did that,
While Biden and the maoists in his government did that,
no court stop them. They were never stopped. Nothing was
treated as an emergency.

Speaker 2 (07:04):
Not thinking.

Speaker 1 (07:04):
But there were no breaks on it at all, and
there were all kinds of violations.

Speaker 2 (07:08):
Of the law and the rules and norms. There was nothing.
They just kept going.

Speaker 1 (07:13):
Nothing stopped them over up.

Speaker 2 (07:14):
Remember one morning, do you remember the Haitians? Remember the Haitians?

Speaker 1 (07:18):
One morning we woke up and there were fourteen thousand
freaking Haitians on the southern border and we're looking around,
Oh wait what? And then we started to get a
little suspicious because it was a day or two and
the administration do you remember, the administration kept trying to
stop news coverage of it. Hey, hey, don't show those
people on camera. I believe it was three days. Might
be wrong about that, but I believe it was three days.

Speaker 2 (07:39):
We woke up.

Speaker 1 (07:41):
And they were gone. And one night the Biden administration
waited until everyone was asleep and the sun dipped down,
and the Biden administration took fourteen thousand Haitians and brought
every single one of them into your country. Maybe they're
going to school with your children right now. Every rule,

(08:02):
every norm, every law set aside, and the courts, including
the Supreme ones, sat back.

Speaker 2 (08:09):
Ah, it's all right, Well, maybe we'll get to that. Well,
hold on just a moment.

Speaker 1 (08:15):
The rules of the game completely set aside, completely ignored.
The administrators of the rules couldn't be bothered to step in.
For four years, the mnemonic communists known as Democrats filled
up your country with as many foreigners as humanly possible.
Now we have four years, and I want to be

(08:40):
crystal clear about this. You cannot get them all out
in four years, no matter what you do. It's not
humanly possible that many people spread out over a country
this vast or so mixed in as so many communities,
and ingrained here without any breaks, without any courts, without anything.
The Trumpet administration cannot possibly remove twenty million people with

(09:03):
the speed Joe Biden brought them in, that is, with
no courts, no obstructions at all. With no obstructions at all,
we cannot fix with Democrats have broken in the last
four years.

Speaker 2 (09:14):
That's with no obstructions.

Speaker 1 (09:16):
But instead, what we have now is we are well
north of one hundred days into the Trump presidency. We
are roughly one eighth done with the Trump presidency, and
court after court after court after court after court, including
the Supreme One, continues to throw up roadblocks every.

Speaker 2 (09:34):
Chance they get.

Speaker 1 (09:35):
Well, bah, well not quite yet. Hold on, you got
to go through that. Hey, he deserves some due process.
WHOA hold on, that's got to go to the lower
court with an adjuncted baby baby ben. So, I understand
there are all kinds of legal arguments or well, you
have to do things the right way and due process,
and you know what, and I'm not actually going to
argue against you with any of those things. You can

(09:57):
bring up the habeas corpus and all that odd, but
that's but totally fine. I'm not a legal scholar, do
not pretend to be. But I am most definitely somebody
who can see reality. And here is the reality. If
the communists are allowed to import as many foreign barbarians
into the country as they possibly can, and they will
with their four years of power, and we are not

(10:18):
allowed to deport them as quickly as they have imported.
Then the United States of America will end. The country
is simply going to come apart and break apart in
some way that's going to be terrible.

Speaker 2 (10:29):
We will break apart.

Speaker 1 (10:30):
We will end most likely something got awful, like a
civil war, some kind of horrible thing. But it will end,
and it will end terribly. And that is a fact.
I don't care about any of your other arguments, what
about the Constitution, what about the vib I don't care
what your arguments are. If we are not allowed to
deport foreigners at the same pace they import foreigners, we're finished.

(10:51):
It's over, can't be won, can't be done. And so
my final message here as I wrap this up, is
actually not for you. It's for the Trump administration. And
I'm I'm assuming they know this, but maybe they don't.
So here's the reality of it. I don't want a dictator.

(11:12):
I want to be free. I want to live in
a constitutional republic as a free man where I get
a voice say I do not want a dictator. I
hope you don't either. We are going to get one.
If the Trump administration is not willing to go far enough,
ignore these courts, including the Supreme Court, and move forward

(11:35):
with the mass deportation of barbarians. If the Trump administration
is not allowed to implement the will of the voters,
and we still see poll after poll after poll, the
will of the voters remains with Trump and mass deportations.
If the will of the voters is not allowed by
the courts or this or that, then the right will
choose a dictator very shortly in your lifetime, including in mind.

(11:58):
If the Trump administration is given the mandate it was
given and for four years they are prevented from mass deportations,
the next Republican nominee will with somebody who promises to
throw journalists in prison.

Speaker 2 (12:08):
I'm not even close to kidding.

Speaker 1 (12:11):
That is how serious this situation is right now, and
that is my fear, and I hope the Trump administration
knows this. Ignore the Supreme Court. Anyone who tries to
stop you, anyone, any entity, any human being, no matter
their title, throw them in prison.

Speaker 2 (12:26):
To all that may have made you uncomfortable, that. I
am right. We have a huge show for you here.

Speaker 1 (12:33):
Speaking of all this stuff, we'll talk to Sarah Gonzalez
about trend Aragua and other things. Before we talked to her.
Let me talk to you about that garbage cell phone
you have. The cell phone itself is probably fine. I'm
talking about your provider, your mobile provider. Who is it?
Is it Morizon or T Mobile, AT and T. These

(12:55):
companies hate you. They hate you, and they take you
money and they use it against you all the time.
That's the worst part. It's not just the evil things
they do. They do it with our money. And I'm guilty.
I've had Hoverizon, AT and T and T Mobile. Every
time I paid my bill, I was funding all this
communist felt. Oh look another drag race at the drag parade,

(13:16):
I mean drag race anyway. Switch to pure Talk, save
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Speaker 2 (13:27):
We'll be back.

Speaker 1 (13:37):
Well, look, stuff like this, I don't know what I
want to say about it, because I'm not surprised. A
New Mexico judge democrat he resigned because ice arrested a
member of Trenda Arragua.

Speaker 2 (13:53):
In his home.

Speaker 1 (13:54):
And I just I know you already know this point
before I bring in, Sarah.

Speaker 2 (13:58):
Trenday Arragua is a prison gang so.

Speaker 1 (14:03):
Violent they control portions of Venezuela with of course, the
permission of Venezuela's evil communist government. And they're so violent
and so nasty that Venezuela's communist government shipped them as
many as they could to the United States of America.

Speaker 2 (14:18):
Joe Biden let them all in.

Speaker 1 (14:20):
And now there's a new Mexico Democrat that is he
renting to him? Joining me now, Sarah Gonzalez, host of Unfiltered.

Speaker 2 (14:28):
On Blaze TV.

Speaker 1 (14:29):
Sarah, I'm not even surprised Democrats.

Speaker 2 (14:32):
This is their party.

Speaker 3 (14:35):
It is their party, and you know what, Jesse, First
of all, I appreciate you having me on to speak
as a position of authority on this matter, being that
my last name is Gonzalez, and I would just say
I at least can appreciate. I can appreciate that these people,
for so long we have told them, why don't you
house these people, Why don't you have all of these illegals,

(14:55):
Why don't you put.

Speaker 4 (14:56):
Them in your home?

Speaker 3 (14:57):
Because The argument was, of course, that they're so good
for this country.

Speaker 4 (15:01):
Well, you guys house them. At least now they're doing that.

Speaker 3 (15:03):
They're housing literal, violent Venezuelan gang criminals in their homes. Listen,
I just ask for consistency. I would say that this
guy is probably not too bright, but at least consistent
with his policy.

Speaker 2 (15:17):
Yeah, no doubt about it.

Speaker 1 (15:19):
I do have a question about the setting aside the
whole national disgrace part of the Democrat Party politically, are
they making a mistake Senator Van hall And, who went
down to El Salvador to love on that MS thirteen
guy here, he was trying to clean up his booboo,
right though.

Speaker 5 (15:36):
That you are sticking your neck out for somebody who,
maybe down the line, is proven to be connected to
M thirteen.

Speaker 2 (15:41):
I want to be very clear, I'm not vouching for
the man.

Speaker 5 (15:45):
I'm vouching for the man's rights, his constitutional rights to
do process.

Speaker 2 (15:52):
Sarah.

Speaker 1 (15:52):
Obviously Van Holland doesn't care about his rights or due
process or any of those other things. Democrats have decided
this guy is the new symbol. But isn't that a
mistake When you look at the poll numbers for how
the country thinks about illegal immigration right now.

Speaker 3 (16:07):
Well, Jesse, I'm trying to decide how I want to
answer this question, because if there are any Democrats who
are listening, I would like for them to know that, no,
it is not a mistake. Please continue advocating for these
literal criminals, and they will never win another election again.

Speaker 4 (16:21):
But I mean to your point as well. Of course
they don't care.

Speaker 3 (16:23):
Do they care about the constitutional rights of Lake and Riley?
Do they care about the constitutional rights of Paddy Morin's
daughter Rachel Morin, who both of whom were killed by
illegal immigrants. Of course, these people don't care about the Constitution.
They don't care about due process, all of those which
should be extended to American citizens and not actual foreign criminals.

Speaker 4 (16:41):
But yes, to answer your question, Jesse.

Speaker 3 (16:44):
If these people continue using these taxpayer dollars to, you know,
fly over Gallivant over to El Salvador to visit with
literal criminals, they will never win another election again. So
I would encourage them to continue advocating for literal illegal criminals.

Speaker 4 (17:00):
It's not going to work out.

Speaker 1 (17:01):
Well, Sarah, Can you walk me through the thought process
on the love of this guy. It's very clear the
system has decided from the media that they've all decided
this is the guy.

Speaker 2 (17:14):
What am I missing?

Speaker 3 (17:16):
Well, I mean, you're not missing anything, Jesse. You're not
missing because they are just completely retarded. Sorry, I don't
know if our mom laps use that word on your program,
but these people are just totally delusional. They have two
maybe two brain cells to rub together, and so they
think that this is what the country wants, even though
just last November the country voted overwhelmingly in a mandate

(17:38):
that we wanted something different. But that's all that these
people know how to do, Jesse. They have made their
entire identity hate Donald Trump, Orange man bad. Whatever Donald
Trump does, we do the opposite. And so that's their
only play. That's the only thing that they know how
to do is double triple down on stupidity. And now
here we are we see the end result of that.
They're like, you saw Chris Van. What's his face? I
refuse to say his name. Chris Van wants his face

(17:59):
going on mainstream media and saying, whoa who's to say
he's Maybe he's not an MS thirteen gang member. Have
you seen his knuckles?

Speaker 4 (18:07):
He has MS thirteen tattooed on his hand. This is
not a good guy.

Speaker 3 (18:12):
You heard it from his wife, you know, who was like, yeah,
he beat me and this is not a good guy.
But they don't know how to pivot to anything else
because it's been their entire identity for like ten years now.

Speaker 1 (18:25):
So where do they pivot from here? I know there's
a party's civil war going on. I think it's fascinating
to watch. You have people well, do we need to
walk away from the cultural marx to some stuff? And
the half of them was say, we haven't gone far
enough in Jasmine Crockett's apparently the new voice of the party.
I think they're going to run him out. Where do
they go or run her out? Where do they go
from here?

Speaker 3 (18:45):
Well, I mean it's going to be interesting to see,
isn't it? Because you mentioned Jasmine Crockett the new face
of the party. But we also have the aocs of
the world. And so while the more cooler heads, may
you know, may be fighting within the party, were noticing
that the cooler heads are typically the older generation.

Speaker 4 (19:01):
I hate to say it, but this is how radical
they are. Nancy Pelosi might be a.

Speaker 3 (19:05):
More reasonable, you know, reasonable cooler head than say an AOC,
And so where the party goes, I don't know. The
younger people are gonna be the ones to kind of
navigate the direction of the party. And I just I'm
just gonna sit back with the popcorn. I mean, I
just it couldn't happen to a more deserving group of
people for once. Now the Republicans are on the outside

(19:26):
looking in at the fighting rather than being the one
the party with all of the infighting, It's gonna be
really really beautiful to watch.

Speaker 1 (19:33):
Sarah, What's what the Texas state legislature? What is it
with these red states like mine, like yours? Why can't
we get it together?

Speaker 6 (19:40):
Oh?

Speaker 4 (19:40):
My god, they suck, Jesse, they suck.

Speaker 3 (19:42):
They're terrible. The problem is that there are people who
go into these red states and they know that the
only way that they can win in their districts is
to run as a Republican even though they're not actually one.

Speaker 4 (19:52):
And so you have it's not just Texas.

Speaker 3 (19:54):
I talk about this all the time, and people think
this is just a Texas problem. This is a nationwide
problem in so many red states across the country who
people don't pay attention. You have the average voter who
thinks that the presidential election matters way more than local
that is not so. And so you have these Democrat
operatives who are masquerading as Republicans who actually end up
getting into office. And what ends up happening in all

(20:15):
of these states is the same thing that's happening in Texas,
which is the Democrats are actually running the show. So
while the voters showed up and voted overwhelmingly for Republicans
to rule the roost, the Republicans are actually not Republicans.
There's only a handful of them, and so the rhinos
end up giving the power to, of course, the Democrats.
The Democrats are in control of the Texas House. Is

(20:35):
just a total disgrace. And I think we need another
blood bath at the primaries come next session to weed
out the rest of these rhinos that are left over
from the Bush era.

Speaker 1 (20:46):
Are we getting better at primaries here in Texas and
in red states? And I asked, because as you know,
I'm uniquely invested in my hatred of John Cornyn and
I'd like to see him lose next year.

Speaker 4 (20:56):
Yeah. I actually I think we are.

Speaker 3 (20:58):
I think we are because you have all of this
America first agenda that is really taking on and taking
storm across the country. I do believe that Ken Paxton,
who has just recently announced that he is running against
John Cornyn, I think this is going to be the
year that we see John corn get defeated. If he
doesn't just decide not to run for reelection after he

(21:19):
sees all of the polling, it is not good for him.
Americans are overwhelmingly decisive on the America First agenda. Texans
are very overwhelmingly decisive on the American First agenda, and
so John Cornyn, I just don't think he lasts.

Speaker 4 (21:33):
I think people are waking up.

Speaker 3 (21:34):
They're more in tune now than ever, and I look
forward to John Cornyn being sent into forced retirement early again.
Jesse couldn't happen to a more deserving person, John Cornyn,
who has sold America, sold us out so many times,
shipped our money to foreign countries, and just you know,

(21:55):
I don't know if you saw my confrontation with him
last summer, but he doesn't even he doesn't even want
to answer to his constituents about it. So Syonora John Cornyn,
I think Jesse, is.

Speaker 1 (22:06):
This the start of remaking the party Sarah. It feels
obviously we have a lot of work to do. I
get that, but it feels like we are beginning to
change the kind of Republican we want representing us, and
that's a good thing. It feels like we're going to
start dumping some dead weight.

Speaker 4 (22:21):
Yes, yeah, I agree.

Speaker 3 (22:22):
I know that a lot of people like to use
the term that this is now the Maga Party.

Speaker 4 (22:27):
I disagree.

Speaker 3 (22:28):
I don't like using the term MAGA because what it
is is it's an America First party, and of course
that shouldn't be controversial. We want our legislators, we want
our lawmakers, We want the people who we send to Washington,
d C. To put our country first because Americans are
overtaxed or overworked, and we're tired of watching all of
our hard earned money go to fund forever wars. It's

(22:49):
just enough. And I think Americans have watched this. They
watched the last administration for four years literally put America
last in every single thing that they did, and they
see the result of that.

Speaker 1 (23:00):
Right.

Speaker 3 (23:01):
It has made us more It has made us less safe,
it has made us, you know, less stable. It has
undermined all of the things, all of the founding principles
of our country. And I think that we were at
a tipping point and Americans finally said, we have to
put our country first. And so this is an America
First Party, this is an America First agenda, and the
people are woken up to that, and they are no

(23:21):
longer willing to tolerate people like John Corn and undermining,
you know, all of the things that we do and
we work so hard to accomplish. So I do think
that there is an awakening, and I think that it
is going to do nothing but great things for not
just this party, but this country.

Speaker 1 (23:38):
Agreed, Sarah Gonzalez, talk to you soon. Appreciate you, all right,
the Pope died. I'm not Catholics, so I didn't say
anything about it to open up the show. But maybe
you are. There's a lot of Catholics who watch. Liz
Wheeler is a Catholic. She's going to join us next
and I guess she'll talk about all that Catholic stuff
with us. We want to pay our respects. Or maybe

(23:59):
she's man. I don't know. I don't want to. Hey,
I don't want to step in and jump in and
stop my area. So we'll talk about that. But First,
I want to talk about the real crisis at your
energy level. Are you out of gas in the afternoons.
You know, it's not your age, it's the fact you
don't have a stack running through your blood veins.

Speaker 2 (24:22):
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Speaker 1 (24:24):
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Speaker 2 (24:29):
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We'll be back, all right. The Pope died now. I

(25:13):
am not a Catholic, and so I don't feel qualified
at all to discuss any of this. I know that
he was thought of and certainly appear to be a
bit of a left winger. I don't know where we
go from here, where Catholics go from here. I don't
know what happens here. But Liz Wheeler joins me to
talk about that. Joining me now, Liz Wheeler, host of
The Liz Wheeler Show. Liz, I am not Catholic. You

(25:34):
are Catholic. The pope died. The floor's yours it is.

Speaker 7 (25:39):
At first, I'd just like to start by saying that
I hope that others will join me in what I'm
doing today, which is praying for the Pope's soul before
we talk about politics and religion and the impact of
the church and all of that. I disagreed with the
Pope on a lot, but I am spending today praying
for the repose of his soul. And I hope, regardless
of whether you're Catholic, a Protestant, or Evangelical or anything else,
I hope that you'll join in that.

Speaker 1 (26:03):
All right, Well, there you go. So where does the
Catholic Church go from here?

Speaker 7 (26:09):
So the process, so you're talking about the process for
selecting a new pope.

Speaker 4 (26:12):
And who might be the next hope and.

Speaker 7 (26:15):
All of that, Well, this is it's actually an interesting process.
So what happens is officials of the Catholic Church called cardinals,
who can be archbishops or just other church officials. They're
the guys that were red. The cardinals, they convene at
the Vatican. That'll happen within the next couple weeks. I
think the average amount of time between the death of

(26:35):
a pope and what's called a papal conclave, which is
when all the cardinals meet to elect a pope, I
think that takes a couple of weeks. Usually about two
weeks before that happens. They'll all meet at the Vatican
and they will go to Mass together at Saint Peter's Basilica.
They will pray that the Holy Spirit guides them into
electing the next pope.

Speaker 4 (26:54):
They will then take an.

Speaker 7 (26:56):
Oath of absolute secrecy, which is where a lot of
the myths and led about this come from. And they
will then march from Saint Peter's Basilica to the Cystine Chapel.
Once inside the Sistine Chapel, they will start casting secret ballots.
They write down who they want to vote for for
the next pope. They fold their paper in a certain way.
They march one by one up to the front of

(27:18):
the Sistine chapel, they drop their twice folded ballot in
a chalice. It's then counted allowed in order to be
elected pope, a cardinal or has to be or has
to receive two thirds of the vote. So it's not
just a plurality, it's two thirds of the vote, which
means there's often multiple rounds of voting before a pope

(27:38):
is elected. Now, a lot of us, whether you're Catholic
or not, are familiar with the black smoke coming out
of the papal conclave. That means a vote has happened,
but the result has not been that a pope has
been elected. At which case they at which time they
burn the ballots with a chemical that causes black smoke.
When a candidate has received two thirds of the vote,
they burn the ballots with a chemical that causes white smoke.

(28:00):
That means a pope has been elected. And then the
pope is announced, announced in with a new papal name
and with the garments of the pope, and blesses the world.

Speaker 1 (28:12):
In short, Okay, okay, do I don't understand how this
works as far. Look, we don't have exit polls here
right as you just mentioned. The secrecy of it I
did hear Catholics complain about how left wing this pope
seemed to be. Is that the direction the international Catholic
Church is going. Do we get the sense that they're

(28:34):
going to lurch back the other direction? I don't know
how this works.

Speaker 7 (28:39):
Well, right, And I think that your question and even
confusion is felt not just by non Catholics, it's felt
by a lot of the Catholic faithful because Pope Francis,
in my opinion, the hallmark of his papacy is confusion.
His actions often didn't match his words. He would give
conflicting he would give conflicting comments or comments that can

(29:00):
with his policies, and I left a lot of the
faithful confused about issues where we really need moral clarity.

Speaker 4 (29:06):
I find that to be very destructive to the faith.

Speaker 7 (29:12):
As I said, that's my analysis of Pope Francis's papacy. Here,
so the College of Cardinals Pope's select cardinals, and Pope Francis,
I believe, has selected over eighty of the one hundred
and thirty seven eligible cardinals to cast their ballots. So
you would think, okay, well, maybe he packed the College
of Cardinals with people who have a more left leaning
theology and ideology that he does. We don't really know

(29:33):
because the process is secret. He's also not allowed. Pope
Francis has not allowed these cardinals around the world to
gather in large groups over the course of the year,
so they don't have good working relationships. So they haven't
formed their cliques and clubs and chosen favorites. So your
gas is as good as mine. I can tell you
who I would like to be the next pope. I
would like to see Cardinal Robert Sarah the next pope.

(29:56):
I would like a traditionally more traditional theology to reign
supreme in the Catholic Church. I do think that there's
a misconception, and this is among Catholics and non Catholics,
about the role of the pope. Just because Pope Francis
embraced in an ideology that informed his theology that's, in
my opinion, counter to a lot of the doctrine of

(30:17):
the church, doesn't mean that that he changed the doctrine
of the church. Catholics are not obligated to adhere to
or believe the pastoral teachings of a pope, as strange
as that may seem to Protestants or evangelicals. A pope
does not speak infallibly every time he opens his mouth.
A pope speaks infallibly, very very infrequently. It's only happened

(30:38):
twice since the Second Vatican Council. And so just because
a pope is left wing doesn't mean the doctrine.

Speaker 4 (30:45):
Of the church changes.

Speaker 7 (30:46):
It's kind of the comparison that I use often is
that when Obama was President of the United States, it
didn't change our constitution, it didn't change our declaration in
our founding documents. He just misinterpreted them and then applied
his misinterpretations to power. That's somewhat how it is in
the Catholic Church as well. Doctrine cannot be changed by
a pope. He can simply misinterpret it or confuse the faithful.

(31:07):
So I think a lot of us are hoping and
praying that a more traditionally conservative in his theology candidate
will be elected as the next vote.

Speaker 2 (31:17):
All right, there you go.

Speaker 1 (31:18):
Told you we were going to have a Catholic say,
let's switch gears and go to something else near and
dear to your heart.

Speaker 2 (31:23):
RFK Junior was out there talking. Here's what he said,
destroys families.

Speaker 8 (31:31):
More importantly, it destroys our greatest resource, which our children.
Within three weeks and probably we're hoping in two weeks,
we're going to announce a series of new studies to
identify precisely what the environmental toxins are that are causing it.
This has not been done before, and we're going to

(31:51):
do it in a thorough and comprehensive way, and we're
going to get back with an answer to the American
people very very quickly.

Speaker 1 (32:01):
Liz, talk to me about autism, what causes it?

Speaker 2 (32:05):
What do you believe?

Speaker 1 (32:06):
What's RFK doing? The floor is most definitely yours the
same my area.

Speaker 7 (32:11):
You know what I want to see and what I
hope to see from RFK, and I think that this
is what he's announcing is I most want to see
a study that compares the health outcomes of what the
CDC would define as fully vaccinated children compared to children
that the CDC would consider to be partially vaccinated, compared
to children who the CDC would consider to be unvaccinated.

(32:32):
I want to see the health outcomes of these children,
and that could be done very quickly. When RFK announced
that we would have the answer to what is causing
this epidemic of autism by September. There were a lot
of people that scoffed and said, how could you possibly
know the time that it would take you to answer
such a large question. And my answer to that is, well,

(32:53):
you don't have to. You don't have to conduct long
term observational studies. You can take the outcomes of people
who already fought into these categories to compare you know,
correlation and causation, and just to inform the American people
of the impact of some of these toxin It's not
just vaccines. I mean, he's talking about environmental toxins like
fluoride in the water, and hormones in meat, and what's

(33:16):
in our air, and you know, the the chemicals and
dyes in our food, and all different kinds of things
that clearly antibiotic use, all different kinds of things that
have clearly impacted the health status of the American people
compared to prior generations. So I find this to be
very exciting. I was a little, to be honest, disturbed

(33:36):
two weeks ago when he posted when RFK posted on
x and praise the MMR vaccine, he had said, you know,
he'd called, he'd travel down to Texas for the measles
out the so called measles outbreak, and he had said
he's helping Texas get stocked with much needed MMR vaccines
and he said the best way to prevent the spread
of measles is this vaccine. And I thought to myself,
who is this typing this post?

Speaker 4 (33:58):
Because the RFK that I.

Speaker 7 (33:59):
Know in love wrote a book about the risks of
the MMR vaccine and he's now contradicting himself. But the
man that I saw in the press conference that you showed, Jesse,
that's the RFK that we know and love who is
not bringing a preconceived notion to the podium. He is
bringing science and studies and data and evidence to inform you,
as a parent about the risks, the harms, and the

(34:21):
benefits of these medical interventions that currently are required on
our children. And I'm so grateful and excited to see that.

Speaker 1 (34:29):
Well, that's what you call a ringing endorsement, Liz, Thank
you so much.

Speaker 2 (34:33):
I appreciate you.

Speaker 1 (34:36):
All Right, white House just made an announcement related to COVID.
It does matter. That's what we have to keep talking
about that. Speaking of health, I prefer natural things. I
have always preferred natural things. I don't like. I don't
like pills, over the counter prescription I don't like pills.

(34:59):
And when it comes to sleeping, we are generally attempted
to just go grab something from the pharmacy army.

Speaker 2 (35:05):
Wollw I just grab something. Well, that's why you're tired
when you wake up. Yeah, oh yeah.

Speaker 1 (35:11):
You'll sleep eight nine, ten hours, fourteen hours, and then
you wake up and feel like garbage. That's why I
love dream powder from Beam. It's a cup of hot chocolate,
that's all it is. But it's got all kinds of
natural things in it, like rashie and melatonin and things
like that. You'll go to sleep, sleep like a baby,
and when you wake up, you won't be heavy and

(35:33):
groggy with sandpaper eyes. You'll feel good. Shotbeam dot com
slash Jesse Kelly, We'll be back. I want to talk
about doctor Fauci and COVID in the system and the lies,

(35:53):
and yes, I am aware that it is.

Speaker 2 (35:55):
What is it?

Speaker 1 (35:55):
April twenty first, April twenty first, I'm aware, But we're
not going to let this go. We're not going to
allow the destruction of American freedom, jobs, economy, school children,
we're not going to just let it go and act well,
so let's just let No, I'm not going to let
it go. I'm not There are things that I'm never
going to let go. I'm never going to forget.

Speaker 2 (36:16):
I'm going to.

Speaker 1 (36:17):
Continue to bring this up until I get some sort
of justice on this earth.

Speaker 2 (36:22):
I want to bring up.

Speaker 1 (36:25):
An interesting aspect of it because there's a lot of
things we could talk about when it comes to COVID.
But remember, remember all the debate over the origins of
COVID right right away. You remember, right when it came out,
people wanted to know, hey, new virus, where did it
come from?

Speaker 2 (36:43):
Right?

Speaker 1 (36:43):
Was it Africa? And then we found oh, oh okay,
it was China.

Speaker 2 (36:48):
All right, I'm learning like you're learning. We're all learning
at once.

Speaker 1 (36:51):
I'm I'm watching TV, I'm reading stuff. Okay, came from China,
all right, we got that. And then there were debates, Well,
looks like it looks like it came from Wuhan City
in China. Oh okay, Well I don't know about Wuhan.
I've never been there before. All right, you say so cool? Cool,
And then didn't take long for people to figure out, well,

(37:12):
wait a minute, there's actually a there's a lab in Wuhan,
a lab that works with viruses.

Speaker 2 (37:22):
That's interesting, Hey, is that? Is that where it came from?

Speaker 1 (37:27):
And that question, more specifically, the answer to that question
was so revealing to me early on about how ugly
this whole thing was because immediately, immediately, every single part
of the system, the freaking Central Intelligence Agency, every part

(37:48):
of the system, the media, the doctor's, everybody insisted that
that couldn't be it. You didn't know that, nobody knew
that yet, what do you mean, why are you demanded
that you don't know it was from an animal market
or something. Okay, maybe even you know it didn't you

(38:09):
know it didn't.

Speaker 2 (38:09):
Come from the lab. Fauci was all over TV saying this.

Speaker 9 (38:13):
We still open up and keep always an open mind
as to whether or not this had to do with
a virus that was isolated out in the environment and
that came into a lab and then had what most
people referred to as a lab leak.

Speaker 6 (38:29):
I believe that is less likely that that's the case,
but I.

Speaker 10 (38:32):
Also believe we need to keep an open mind and
have all possibilities be investigated. But the evidence from the
virology community points strongly towards a natural occurrence.

Speaker 1 (38:46):
Yeah, no, no, Look, we need to look into it,
but it's definitely probably a natural occurrence.

Speaker 2 (38:50):
Except we just got a report out from the.

Speaker 1 (38:52):
White House COVID report, and it says a lot of
things in it.

Speaker 2 (38:58):
The one thing we know, we know while.

Speaker 1 (39:01):
Fauci was on TV talking about having an open mind,
Fauci he worked to destroy anybody who said it might.

Speaker 2 (39:11):
Come from a lab.

Speaker 1 (39:12):
He worked to discredit anybody people part of that community.
We're talking accomplished people. Fauci worked really hard to discredit
and destroy them if they said it came from a lab,
the lab. That doesn't sound like keeping an open mind.
That sounds like an nefarious super villain working very hard

(39:35):
to cover something.

Speaker 2 (39:36):
Up for some reason.

Speaker 1 (39:39):
In fact, almost sounds like somebody trying to cover up
a crime, doesn't it.

Speaker 2 (39:45):
And I think about that.

Speaker 1 (39:48):
I think about the fact that Fauci made three point
five million dollars last year. I think about the fact
that Fauci is still on television saying things like this.

Speaker 6 (39:58):
Maybe Michelle, yeah, I think in what I think what
people are getting confused is the idea of shutting things
down temporarily was the right decision.

Speaker 9 (40:06):
Everyone agreed, we all tell flat and the curve, But
then the curve got flat and we didn't get to send.

Speaker 6 (40:11):
Get back to what happened is that there became almost
an ideological divide. One thing is very clear, masks work.
You see a lot of people say, oh, masks don't
masked work.

Speaker 2 (40:29):
Nope, they didn't.

Speaker 1 (40:32):
Everyone knows that that stupid mask you wear, it didn't
stop a microscopic virus.

Speaker 2 (40:39):
Everyone knows that.

Speaker 1 (40:40):
Don't set aside your common sense for somebody with a
lapel pin that says doctor on it. Everyone knows that
that stupid paper mask of yours did nothing at all.
Everyone knows that. But he feels completely comfortable saying things
like that, breaking it a bunch of money because we've
never had an actual reckoning. And remember it was Fauci's recommendation.

(41:02):
It was his endless recommendations, the pay of the road
for tyrants like this.

Speaker 11 (41:10):
You're right to go out for a walk in the park.
Go out for a walk because you need to get
out of the house. The dog is getting on your nerves. Fine,
don't infect me. You don't have a right to infect me.
If you are going to be in a situation in
public where you may come into contact with other people

(41:34):
in a situation that is not socially distanced, you must
have a mask or a cloth covering nose and mount.
That is by executive order.

Speaker 1 (41:55):
Maybe that doesn't anger you or blow you away, but
you realize a.

Speaker 2 (42:02):
Governor should never talk to you like that.

Speaker 1 (42:05):
Here, here's what you're allowed to do. And if you're
gonna do this, you better wear that, or you better
do that.

Speaker 2 (42:11):
And you're not allowed to do that.

Speaker 1 (42:13):
I've made the Still to this day, I can feel
my blood pressure rising. You know what we need to go.
I need to go make fun of Jasmin Crockett. It
will make me feel better. We have light in the mood. Next,
all right, it's time to lighten the mood. And I've

(42:34):
told you this before, I'm gonna tell you again. Jasmine
Crockett is not going to be in Congress for that
much longer. I'm not saying next election cycle, not saying that,
but give it two or three election cycles. Democrats are
gonna get Jasmine Crockett out of Congress because she's bad
for the brand, she's bad for the party. And you've

(42:55):
seen this over and over and over again. The street communists.
They finally make the trend position because they all want
to be elites, right. They all want to get off
the streets.

Speaker 2 (43:03):
And get into the elites.

Speaker 1 (43:04):
They all want to be in Congress with the fancy
cars and the staff and the TV.

Speaker 2 (43:09):
But you are only allowed to remain there if you
don't cause problems.

Speaker 1 (43:14):
If you cause problems, if you're Jamal Bowman, you can't
stop pulling the firearm.

Speaker 2 (43:19):
You're Corey Bush, you.

Speaker 1 (43:20):
Can't stop bringing up bad headlines.

Speaker 2 (43:23):
You're going to be gone.

Speaker 1 (43:24):
Jasmine Crockett has fallen in love with the fame. She's
fallen in love with the camera.

Speaker 2 (43:30):
It's going to be your downfall.

Speaker 5 (43:32):
This is the second to the last episode of the show.

Speaker 4 (43:35):
Congressman.

Speaker 5 (43:35):
I wanted to thank you for always getting up and
early and delivering it. But I also want to say
thank you for your continuing support for democracy. It's definitely
something that you have made your brand, and it's the
integrity that you're bringing and I'm grateful for you.

Speaker 12 (43:49):
Always well, Miss Oh.

Speaker 5 (44:00):
You can't have me crying at the beginning of a show,
Jasmine Congressman, Jasmine Crockett, You're not.

Speaker 12 (44:04):
You haven't seen the last of me.

Speaker 5 (44:06):
Thank you for being here and getting us started today.
I always appreciate you.

Speaker 2 (44:12):
Thank you, Oh gosh I suitable
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