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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Happy Wednesday, friend, Welcome to the Thought Shower. Intern. John
is my name, and I want to say a somber
podcast today. But four years ago today, we lost Kane,
which is it's crazy to think about. You know, it's
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been I've been here thirteen years in DC, which is
also wild. In that time a lot has happened. You know,
I've moved three times. I've been lucky to raise one
hundred thousand dollars for the Fisherhouse with the comedy tours.
This podcast is one awards. The hockey team I coach
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been lucky enough. They've won three championships. Lost Chewy, the
lost lost Kine. So a lot of ups and downs
these past thirteen years and really the most extreme of
the highs and the most extreme of the lows, which
has been a lot to kind of process. You know.
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I talked about this on one of my comedy tours
that if you had told me all the bad things
that were going to happen when I first got offered
the job in DC, if you had told me all
the bad things that are going to happen, I wouldn't
have taken the job. And I still believe that, like
there's there's no way, I would have taken the job
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if I knew all the bad stuff that was going
to happen. But on the flip side, if you told
me all the good things that were going to happen,
I wouldn't have believed it. And that's life. You know,
it's interesting. My relationship with with Kin was interesting. And
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by the way, too, I've been very careful the last
four years to not speak to too much on stuff,
and and not because of any reason other than there's
two lives that are very much attached to this story
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and I don't want those two lives to ever have
any pain cause because of me. And that's all I'll
say on that. But you know, it's interesting. I was
doing a radio interview this past week with a young
man who does radio and interviews radio folks, and he
asked me what it was like working for Caine, and
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I told him so when I was in college Minnesota
working from my hometown radio station, Dave on the morning
show KATIEWB. About that time, iHeartRadio released the app and
it was really the first time where you could listen
to any radio station in the country, and they made
channels for certain shows. So I remember, I think first
it was Elvis Durant had a channel, Bobby Bones had
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a channel, Cain had a channel. And that was the
first time I had gotten like acquainted with the Cane show.
And it was kind of unlike anything I had heard.
It was just kind of like it was a lot,
you know, a lot of stuff going on, and I
was kind of amazed with how he weaved his way
in and out of things. And then, you know, I
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was in Des Moines for or you know, I was
in Minneapolis for four years on the radio station. Grew
up there though, went to Des Moines for eleven months.
And my boss in Des Moines man in Greg Chance,
he used to work with Kine. And when I got
the job in Des Moines, I asked my boss what
was the highest ratings the night show ever had? I
was in the night show, and he said Cain had
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like a fifty share, which means fifty percent of the
radio audience was listening to his show. So I prayed,
I a sheet of paper that said Cain fifty share,
and I put it on the wall in my office
and I grinded out for eleven months. Got a I
didn't know Kin was hiring, sent my audio my highlight
tape to the show in New York just to get
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their opinion. They sent it a Kine got a text
from Cain and the audition came. And you know a
lot of times for radio auditions, like they fly you out,
you do it in person to really see if you
have chemistry. And for this, the boss at the station
at the time called me and he's like, hey, they
basically have somebody ready, but they want to give you
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a shot to interview. I remember thinking like, okay, like
this is I gotta crush you out of the park.
And it sucked because I did it from a studio
in Des Moines. Caine did it from a studio in DC,
so he couldn't see each other. And I have the
audio somewhere. I wish I could find it. But that
first it's like a ten minute run was nothing short
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of pure magic. It was just kind of like we
I think both knew like, oh, this is going to
be something, you know. I remember being at the end
of it. I heard him say off Mike like he's
never felt so outgunned, and I was like, Okay, I
got a chance. And I had heard the rumors about him.
I had heard how prolific. He was running aboard how
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he was like a technical wizard. I had heard that
he did Club Caine live. He had his own studio
in the basement of his house, and I came to DC,
landed on a Thursday, started on a Friday and saw
him up close, and I was like, oh he is Yeah,
He's probably one of the best to ever do it.
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It was like watching a master of their craft. The
way he was able to do four things at once
and think of different things to bring up on the show.
I was in awe. I think it was a little
bit like we kind of saw each other as big
brother little brother, Like there was some connection where he
could do a no look pass and know where I
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was going to be and vice versa. Yeah, I think
that that I landed on that Thursday, right show that Friday.
My first event was that Saturday, and I to this
day is kind of wild. The old Cane show logo
to me, the end in the logo there was a
gap that looked like female anatomy, so I was trying
to break the ice of them. I was like, hey man,
why is the end look like anatomy? And I think
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he was blown away and I photo shot the baby
head coming out of it, and he thought it was funny.
You know, I owe a lot to him. You know,
I studied him every day for nine years or eight years,
ever it was. And just like how he got in
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out of breaks, how he talked to callers, how he
acted with sales, like, I studied that dude all the time.
And I wouldn't be here without him. And I've been
all very open about that that, yeah, I wouldn't be
without him. And towards the end, did we have as
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good of a relationship as we did in the beginning. No?
Is that something that needs he brought up here? No?
And again that kind of goes back to like, yeah,
for one thing, it's like it doesn't matter, you know
what I mean. It's just one of those things where
it What good does that do to bring it up here?
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You know, I've talked about it in therapy. Doing that
here doesn't do any good, doesn't hurt him, doesn't help me.
What I will say is is this, I'm very blessed
about our last conversation. Our last conversation. Again, we weren't
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on the best of terms, but you know it was
around this time too. Because it's a pandemic and I
we were in an argument about something and I said
to him, I don't know where the guy is who
hired me, but I hope you find him again. And
I meant that I did so the last time I
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saw him in person. The show went basically not virtual,
but when your pandemic happen. And then we had to
do the show from home for a couple of weeks,
and then the station made a switch. And you know,
I'm blessed that that's how we left it. I am,
And you know I would have loved nothing more than
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for one day us to reunite, going against each other
on the air. I think that would have been It
had been so fun. But also, and maybe this is
the ego speaking to me, we've been the best radio
I think DC had ever seen, to have, you know,
master and student dueling it out in this our form
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we call radio. We've been a treat and it's interesting.
You know, I would like to think that if he
was here today and could see what the show has done,
I know he'd be proud. I mean that, you know,
we're all here because of him. Eric's been here for
like eighteen years. You know, I was hired, then Rose
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is hired than Hoodie and Sauce. So really it's like
his fingerprints are everywhere on the show. That's not lost
on me, and that's not lost anybody here either, So
I think, I don't know, it's a weird. I think
about him every day, you know, I really do, and
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like I see him in Skittles all the time. Him
and Skittles act exactly the same, even the way they walk.
I'm like, you walk just like your dad, you know.
But I do I do believe that deep down, if
he was here, he'd be proud. And yeah, I mean
I guess, you know, it makes no sense wishing like
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oh I wish this would have happened, or it's just
like it's just not it's gonna happen like that, you know.
But yeah, I wish we would have had a chance
to go against each other. I think that would have
been so fun and just to like see each other
at a radio event and just kind of tip the
cap like, hey, there's a competition. I see, You're good
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to go. The man changed my life, he did. He
plucked me from sleeping on the floor in Des Moines,
got me out here. I mean, the only reason that
I can do this show is because he welcomed me.
When I first started on the show, people hated me. Sammy,
who was here before me, was loved universally, and Cain
kind of took me on his wing, like, Hey, this
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is my friend John. He's not Sammy. He's there, he's different,
they're both great people. I promise you're gonna love him.
And it's true. That was kind of it. So I
don't know, man, it's a crazy thing. And there's the
old adage life is short. I think that's true. And
I've been blessed. And I was telling the friend this
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recently that I've been blessed in tragedy. I'm blessed that.
I man, I'm blessed that. Oh man, I'm blessed. At
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the last time I saw Chewy alive, I told him
that it was okay if you needed to go. And
I'm blessed. At the last time I saw Hant alive,
I told him they wanted him to find himself again.
And so that's all I got today. Life short. And
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we think we know when it's gonna end or when
it's gonna change, and we just don't. So my best
advice to you today is if there's somebody out there
like that, it's does it still suck? Absolutely? I'm so
blessed us I had those chances. I hope you have
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a great Wednesday. I appreciate you and thank you for listening.
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