April 23, 2025 • 9 mins
On this episode of The Thought Shower, Intern John talks about fake nice guys!
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Intern John and Your Morning Show are having their first ever CHUES-Day dog adoption event in honor of John's dog, Chuy! They have teamed with Lost Dog and Cat Rescue to find homes for some amazing animals! Saturday 4/26 2:30-4:30p @ Hyde Social in Arlington
Every week Intern John discusses adulting, dating, radio life, and more! You can follow Intern John on social media: @InternJohnRadio. You can listen to past episodes at TheThoughtShower.com
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
And a happy Wednesday. Friend.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
Welcome to the Thought Shower intern John is my name.
It has been kind of crazy time since the last
time we talked. I took Monday off, just need a
bit of a breather, bit, a chance to relax and reset.
Had lovely weekend, went with skittles, had got skilled, some
walks in, you know, all that kind of good stuff,
(00:22):
and it was fantastic. It was a fantastic time to
kind of relax and recharge. And this week's in hectic
to say the least. So yesterday Tuesday, went to the
Nats game against the O's with the entire show basically
watched about zero percent of the game, which I feel
(00:43):
like is kind of what you do when it comes
to baseball games.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
Nothing wrong with that. It is what it is. I'll
say this. The MLB.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
Making you download their app to get into the game
is annoying as hell. Don't like that. That is not easy,
not great, it is what it is. So that was
last night. I didn't get home until the I picked
up at eight thirty, probably a homerun like nine thirty.
Not great, went to the better round ten not great.
Still slept in so you usually get at two forty. Today,
(01:17):
I was like, wonder, what, let's sleep until three. The
problem was I probably woke up like ten times, my
anxiety being like do we oversleep?
Speaker 1 (01:24):
Do you over sleep? Do we over sleep? So that
was that.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
Today go into the Capitol's game, Capitol's playoff hockey. Very
excited for that. I already told the person I'm going with, like, hey,
I have a heart out at nine o'clock, Like I
cannot go back to back because then Thursday going golfing
with some buddies after the show, and then Saturday is
our dog adoption event. Tuesday gonna be happening. I'm very
(01:51):
excited for this. Hide social in Arlington two thirty to
four thirty pm. That's this Tuesday. Also, somebody's been putting
up signs all across the DMV saying, you know, intern John,
I'm pregnant.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
I'm gonna say this. It was one of those things.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
It kind of feels like when the police pull up
behind you and your first thought is, oh, no, I'm guilty,
and then he kind of think you go, no, I
don't really do anything wrong.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
That's kind of what it was.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
Like like when I first got the text that somebody
pep signs. He's like, not billboards, but banner rolls that
say intern John, I'm pregnant. I was like, whoa Now.
I was like, Oh, there's nothing to worry about. I
think it's kind of funny. Like personally, I think it's
kind of funny. If it was something salacious or something
like mean, that'd be a little bit different. This, to
(02:39):
me is kind of funny. And I have a bunch
of people asking questions. I know nothing. I think Eric
is trying to be on the case to figure out
if we can see if there's anything we missed or
anything like that. But overall, it's funny. And I was
talking my buddy Chuck and he was like is he
called me? He goes, did you do this fucking ratings thing?
I was like, nah, dude, the oh's number one, like
(03:02):
and not to and we're very grateful for that, by
the way, very grateful. But if it was a case
where the show is in like eighth place, perhaps we
do something like that. But when the show is doing well,
you tend not to do stunts, do you know what
I'm saying? So, whoever did it? If you're hearing this,
I want to talk to you on the show. I
(03:23):
think it's hilarious. Yeah, I just want to know why.
Uh and I guess go from there. If you haven't
seen them, they're on my Instagram at YMS radio. But
what do you have a fun way to start your Tuesday? Yesterday?
Let me get to this for your Wednesday. Though, the
nice guy behaviors that are major red flags.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
I do think there's a problem.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
There's genuine nice guys who are nice because they're just
nice people. Then there's dudes who pretend to be nice
in the hopes of getting some base booty, and those
dudes tend to ruin it for the actual nice guys.
When they're like, oh, this is why the so nice
guys left, it's like, mmm, is that why?
Speaker 1 (04:08):
Though?
Speaker 2 (04:09):
Starting with when their generosity comes with hidden expectations, I mean,
that's kind of exactly what I'm saying. They say, true
generosity exists without contingencies, but the nice guy offers gifts,
favors and assistance when invisible strings attached might surprise you,
concert tickets, the knack wounded. When you don't reciprocate romantic
(04:30):
interests or physical affection.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
I do think that's fair.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
I do think that's fair, or if like he gives
you a ride home or like lets you get in
his uber. For sure, I understand that you should be
doing those things because it's nice. Like yesterday after the game,
I just getting an uber back and Sawsten er friend
we are going to take the metro and I was like,
absolutely not, No, you're not taking the metro. We'll just
(04:55):
stop on the way and there it is. Oh my god.
By the way, it was so funny. I'll tell the
story in their later too, because at one point Saussen
her friend Kate, who those two together handful, were saying
something and I said to Kate, I think if you
got kidnapped, they bring you back. And the driver started
laughing and I was like, ah, it's funny. And then
when they got out of the car, he goes, man,
(05:15):
those two girls are something.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
Huh.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
I was like, yeah, indeed, they have the constant need
to remind you how nice they are. They said, genuine
kindness acquires no announcement. It's evident through consistent actions and
doesn't doesn't demand recognition. I think, yeah, they said, nice
guy will say things like I'm not like other guys.
You'll never find somebody who treats you this, well, I
(05:40):
think that that's fair. It's to me, it's like when
somebody tells you how loyal they are. That to me
is one of the biggest red flags of all time.
I'm so loyal. Oh, I'm so loyal. I'm like, hey,
why are you trying to convince me with your words
when you could convince me with your actions? You know
what I mean, actually prove that you're loyal. Maybe maybe
(06:02):
that's something to consider. You know, they keep score of
every good deed.
Speaker 1 (06:07):
Man.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
I even had this in a non romantical way with
a friend ones who were doing a trip somewhere and
the time, like I was broke. This was like I
kind of recently moved to the area, and you know,
I've told the story. In Des Moines, my rent was
maybe like five hundred or six hundred dollars a month.
(06:27):
It was for sure less than thousand, and I was struggling.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
I think I made.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
Maybe maybe made eighteen nineteen something like that year, so
like not great. And then there's a trip going and
like I just couldn't afford to go, and this person
offered to give me points for their like their Hey,
I points, YadA, YadA, and I took it, and they
never let me forget it until one day I said, like, hey,
(06:54):
I number one, I would have done the same for you.
Number two, you offered offered And that was kind of
a big like, oh okay, okay, so we're not being
nice and maybe I was just like the being naive
in Midwest of me, where it's like you just do
nice things. My dad always said he try to help people.
I saw my parents did that the entire time growing up,
(07:16):
help other people and not expecting anything in return. But
that was kind of a big like, oh, okay, I'm
not in the Midwest anymore. I'm in a whole new world.
Their kindness disappears when rejected, and they say the most
revealing moment any nice guy interaction comes when his his
advances meet clear boundaries or rejection. His supposedly unconditional kindness
(07:37):
setting develops conditions, vanishing when it fails produce desired outcomes.
I think that's fair. I think that there's two ways
to look at this, though. I think if you're the
guy and you look at this as like I'm gonna
punish her by not being nice anymore, that's a bad thing.
I think if you look at it, and this whole
(07:57):
time you're trying to be romantic, you make your vibe
and take your energy elsewhere.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
I think that's the way if.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
We're gonna assume, I always try to assume somebody is good.
So assuming this is a good person. If the person
you're trying to mac on rejects, you don't be mean
to them. Just move on and then find somebody who
likes it. Yeah, I think that's kind of the best
revenge as well. They respond passively passive aggressively to disappointment. Yes,
(08:28):
when thwarda the nice guy rarely expresses his disappointment directly,
instead to pointing calculate a passive aggressive design of listen
guilt while maintaining plausible deniability. His responses might include exaggerated size,
deliberate withdrawing conversation, or sulking behavior.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
Guy.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
It's almost like one of my biggest pet peece on
social media is the people that will post, like on
their Instagram stories or Facebook's ass like, ugh, so much
going on right now, and then they won't elaborate like ugh,
can't believe this happened again, And then it's like, are
you gonna fill us in or no? I can't talk
(09:06):
about it right now. It's like, all right, you know,
what are we doing here? What are we doing? Anyway?
I hope to see you this Saturday. It's gonna be
a lot of fun. I'm very excited for this, you know, Tuesday. Man,
it's coming up in four months, which is crazy. So
it's gonna be a good chance to honor him and
(09:28):
hopefully get some some dogs, some amazing homes. So I
would love to see you this Saturday. All the info
YMS radio dot com, Stashower
And a happy Wednesday. Friend.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
Welcome to the Thought Shower intern John is my name.
It has been kind of crazy time since the last
time we talked. I took Monday off, just need a
bit of a breather, bit, a chance to relax and reset.
Had lovely weekend, went with skittles, had got skilled, some
walks in, you know, all that kind of good stuff,
(00:22):
and it was fantastic. It was a fantastic time to
kind of relax and recharge. And this week's in hectic
to say the least. So yesterday Tuesday, went to the
Nats game against the O's with the entire show basically
watched about zero percent of the game, which I feel
(00:43):
like is kind of what you do when it comes
to baseball games.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
Nothing wrong with that. It is what it is. I'll
say this. The MLB.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
Making you download their app to get into the game
is annoying as hell. Don't like that. That is not easy,
not great, it is what it is. So that was
last night. I didn't get home until the I picked
up at eight thirty, probably a homerun like nine thirty.
Not great, went to the better round ten not great.
Still slept in so you usually get at two forty. Today,
(01:17):
I was like, wonder, what, let's sleep until three. The
problem was I probably woke up like ten times, my
anxiety being like do we oversleep?
Speaker 1 (01:24):
Do you over sleep? Do we over sleep? So that
was that.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
Today go into the Capitol's game, Capitol's playoff hockey. Very
excited for that. I already told the person I'm going with, like, hey,
I have a heart out at nine o'clock, Like I
cannot go back to back because then Thursday going golfing
with some buddies after the show, and then Saturday is
our dog adoption event. Tuesday gonna be happening. I'm very
(01:51):
excited for this. Hide social in Arlington two thirty to
four thirty pm. That's this Tuesday. Also, somebody's been putting
up signs all across the DMV saying, you know, intern John,
I'm pregnant.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
I'm gonna say this. It was one of those things.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
It kind of feels like when the police pull up
behind you and your first thought is, oh, no, I'm guilty,
and then he kind of think you go, no, I
don't really do anything wrong.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
That's kind of what it was.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
Like like when I first got the text that somebody
pep signs. He's like, not billboards, but banner rolls that
say intern John, I'm pregnant. I was like, whoa Now.
I was like, Oh, there's nothing to worry about. I
think it's kind of funny. Like personally, I think it's
kind of funny. If it was something salacious or something
like mean, that'd be a little bit different. This, to
(02:39):
me is kind of funny. And I have a bunch
of people asking questions. I know nothing. I think Eric
is trying to be on the case to figure out
if we can see if there's anything we missed or
anything like that. But overall, it's funny. And I was
talking my buddy Chuck and he was like is he
called me? He goes, did you do this fucking ratings thing?
I was like, nah, dude, the oh's number one, like
(03:02):
and not to and we're very grateful for that, by
the way, very grateful. But if it was a case
where the show is in like eighth place, perhaps we
do something like that. But when the show is doing well,
you tend not to do stunts, do you know what
I'm saying? So, whoever did it? If you're hearing this,
I want to talk to you on the show. I
(03:23):
think it's hilarious. Yeah, I just want to know why.
Uh and I guess go from there. If you haven't
seen them, they're on my Instagram at YMS radio. But
what do you have a fun way to start your Tuesday? Yesterday?
Let me get to this for your Wednesday. Though, the
nice guy behaviors that are major red flags.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
I do think there's a problem.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
There's genuine nice guys who are nice because they're just
nice people. Then there's dudes who pretend to be nice
in the hopes of getting some base booty, and those
dudes tend to ruin it for the actual nice guys.
When they're like, oh, this is why the so nice
guys left, it's like, mmm, is that why?
Speaker 1 (04:08):
Though?
Speaker 2 (04:09):
Starting with when their generosity comes with hidden expectations, I mean,
that's kind of exactly what I'm saying. They say, true
generosity exists without contingencies, but the nice guy offers gifts,
favors and assistance when invisible strings attached might surprise you,
concert tickets, the knack wounded. When you don't reciprocate romantic
(04:30):
interests or physical affection.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
I do think that's fair.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
I do think that's fair, or if like he gives
you a ride home or like lets you get in
his uber. For sure, I understand that you should be
doing those things because it's nice. Like yesterday after the game,
I just getting an uber back and Sawsten er friend
we are going to take the metro and I was like,
absolutely not, No, you're not taking the metro. We'll just
(04:55):
stop on the way and there it is. Oh my god.
By the way, it was so funny. I'll tell the
story in their later too, because at one point Saussen
her friend Kate, who those two together handful, were saying
something and I said to Kate, I think if you
got kidnapped, they bring you back. And the driver started
laughing and I was like, ah, it's funny. And then
when they got out of the car, he goes, man,
(05:15):
those two girls are something.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
Huh.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
I was like, yeah, indeed, they have the constant need
to remind you how nice they are. They said, genuine
kindness acquires no announcement. It's evident through consistent actions and
doesn't doesn't demand recognition. I think, yeah, they said, nice
guy will say things like I'm not like other guys.
You'll never find somebody who treats you this, well, I
(05:40):
think that that's fair. It's to me, it's like when
somebody tells you how loyal they are. That to me
is one of the biggest red flags of all time.
I'm so loyal. Oh, I'm so loyal. I'm like, hey,
why are you trying to convince me with your words
when you could convince me with your actions? You know
what I mean, actually prove that you're loyal. Maybe maybe
(06:02):
that's something to consider. You know, they keep score of
every good deed.
Speaker 1 (06:07):
Man.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
I even had this in a non romantical way with
a friend ones who were doing a trip somewhere and
the time, like I was broke. This was like I
kind of recently moved to the area, and you know,
I've told the story. In Des Moines, my rent was
maybe like five hundred or six hundred dollars a month.
(06:27):
It was for sure less than thousand, and I was struggling.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
I think I made.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
Maybe maybe made eighteen nineteen something like that year, so
like not great. And then there's a trip going and
like I just couldn't afford to go, and this person
offered to give me points for their like their Hey,
I points, YadA, YadA, and I took it, and they
never let me forget it until one day I said, like, hey,
(06:54):
I number one, I would have done the same for you.
Number two, you offered offered And that was kind of
a big like, oh okay, okay, so we're not being
nice and maybe I was just like the being naive
in Midwest of me, where it's like you just do
nice things. My dad always said he try to help people.
I saw my parents did that the entire time growing up,
(07:16):
help other people and not expecting anything in return. But
that was kind of a big like, oh, okay, I'm
not in the Midwest anymore. I'm in a whole new world.
Their kindness disappears when rejected, and they say the most
revealing moment any nice guy interaction comes when his his
advances meet clear boundaries or rejection. His supposedly unconditional kindness
(07:37):
setting develops conditions, vanishing when it fails produce desired outcomes.
I think that's fair. I think that there's two ways
to look at this, though. I think if you're the
guy and you look at this as like I'm gonna
punish her by not being nice anymore, that's a bad thing.
I think if you look at it, and this whole
(07:57):
time you're trying to be romantic, you make your vibe
and take your energy elsewhere.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
I think that's the way if.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
We're gonna assume, I always try to assume somebody is good.
So assuming this is a good person. If the person
you're trying to mac on rejects, you don't be mean
to them. Just move on and then find somebody who
likes it. Yeah, I think that's kind of the best
revenge as well. They respond passively passive aggressively to disappointment. Yes,
(08:28):
when thwarda the nice guy rarely expresses his disappointment directly,
instead to pointing calculate a passive aggressive design of listen
guilt while maintaining plausible deniability. His responses might include exaggerated size,
deliberate withdrawing conversation, or sulking behavior.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
Guy.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
It's almost like one of my biggest pet peece on
social media is the people that will post, like on
their Instagram stories or Facebook's ass like, ugh, so much
going on right now, and then they won't elaborate like ugh,
can't believe this happened again, And then it's like, are
you gonna fill us in or no? I can't talk
(09:06):
about it right now. It's like, all right, you know,
what are we doing here? What are we doing? Anyway?
I hope to see you this Saturday. It's gonna be
a lot of fun. I'm very excited for this, you know, Tuesday. Man,
it's coming up in four months, which is crazy. So
it's gonna be a good chance to honor him and
(09:28):
hopefully get some some dogs, some amazing homes. So I
would love to see you this Saturday. All the info
YMS radio dot com, Stashower
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