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Speaker 1 (00:00):
They catch a fishings they are four years old.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
Addictive, So is this guy. Oh my gosh, welcome back.
Have a seat, my man. We're doing great.
Speaker 1 (00:08):
How are ye? How are you, buddy?
Speaker 3 (00:11):
Have a seat, Take a microphone. Not much, what's happening
with you?
Speaker 1 (00:14):
We're just talking fishing.
Speaker 3 (00:15):
Where's the weirdest place you've been fishing lately?
Speaker 4 (00:17):
Weirdest places in the middle of the night, non human
houris the Everglades.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
What hell?
Speaker 5 (00:25):
Now you're down there with the gators and stuff in
the middle of the night.
Speaker 4 (00:30):
Gators. I'm not worried about the gators. I'm worried about
the pythons. Yeah, I was wondering about the pythons, dude. Yeah,
but the fishing is insane.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
Real.
Speaker 6 (00:37):
What do you catching other catching tarpin, big snook. We
were just talking about tarpin. Really, I played, you know,
I played minor league baseball. Now there, right, Tampa tart.
Speaker 7 (00:47):
I know you go there a lot.
Speaker 5 (00:50):
Yeah, my my, my wife and her sister. They own
a condo down in Highland Beach.
Speaker 7 (00:54):
Nice.
Speaker 1 (00:55):
But you know, we were just talking about this in the.
Speaker 5 (00:57):
Swamps, fishing, fishing fish for the grouper and looking for
goliath one hundred and fifty miles out, but I've never
been to the Everglades.
Speaker 7 (01:06):
You can actually catch goli from land base, you know.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
That really dude docks and stuff right.
Speaker 4 (01:11):
Docs and dog piers near that slack water catching.
Speaker 7 (01:16):
They are unbelievable.
Speaker 4 (01:18):
If you want to tackle, busting and break your back,
that's the fish to do it.
Speaker 5 (01:23):
Really, it took us four hours to get a goliath
and a good heart. It actually is two guys, two
broad men did it, and I watched them.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
I didn't do it.
Speaker 4 (01:34):
It's very doable. Next time you're in Florida.
Speaker 7 (01:37):
No, seriously, I'll be there in April. I'm still over
here doing shows. I know it shows the second Fright.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
So us about you? I want to know about you.
Speaker 5 (01:48):
You're in the Everglades, you're catching tarpin, and what are
the fish?
Speaker 7 (01:51):
And big snook?
Speaker 1 (01:52):
How big.
Speaker 7 (01:56):
Do you do any social media?
Speaker 4 (01:58):
Of course, I'm talking about thirty, forty and fifty pounders,
which is unusual. You know, the the holy grail of
stripe bass, for example, the stripe bass.
Speaker 7 (02:09):
You're looking at a.
Speaker 4 (02:10):
Forty pounder or fifty pound is like, oh I am
not worthy. If you catch a forty inch snook. I
call it snook zilla all right, that is I am
not worthy. I'm catching fifty inch plus.
Speaker 3 (02:23):
Wow. I love this dude, Crazy Alberto. He fishes everything everywhere.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
You're doing seminars all weekend long here at the Connecticut
Fishing Outdoor Show. And the reason I asked you the
craziest place you fish because you will fish the city rivers.
Speaker 7 (02:38):
You will fish city rivers.
Speaker 4 (02:39):
I even went to Honduras back in the eighties. You
will orter liked that where I actually went interrogated and
I didn't think I was going to make back in Land.
I'm not kidding you, but look at it. You're looking
at all right, look at me. I'm an Asian guy
by the name of Alberto with a passport American passport. Yeah,
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ding the era of the Contra affair.
Speaker 7 (03:08):
I'm just gonna think about that.
Speaker 4 (03:10):
And when they looked at me, talk about being interrogated,
and I had to have a translated because I all right, Honduras,
it's a third world country.
Speaker 7 (03:21):
They'll look at you.
Speaker 4 (03:22):
It's like, wait a minute. And when I told them
I'm here to fish without a visa, enter at your
own risk. The military guys.
Speaker 7 (03:32):
Were all over me.
Speaker 3 (03:34):
Every fishing trip has a story.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
But it was good, all right, So you go back
to fish.
Speaker 4 (03:42):
They all, well, they wanted to confiscate my fishing rods
and riels coming from I grew up in New York
as a New Yorker. If you turn the New York
upside down, you know, the wonderful mannerism, if you will,
will come out. And he did, and I basically said, dude,
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this is we have mature audience, so therefore I can't curse.
Speaker 3 (04:09):
All right.
Speaker 4 (04:10):
But when they found out that I spoke Spanish, I
speak four languages. I speak Portuguese, Spanish. Look at me,
I'm Chinese and English. What the Asian guy by the
name of Alberto with the American passport? That doesn't jive?
But I told him that's my fishing stuff. You can't
have it. And I took the names and they were
like tribal gasts, like wait a minute, what are you doing.
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I was like, no, this is my fishing stuff, and
your name is to and I wrote it down, so
they let they actually let me go.
Speaker 3 (04:38):
Whip the script on. I love it.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
I love it.
Speaker 7 (04:41):
That's just the way it is. Isn't the show great? Though?
Speaker 1 (04:44):
It is?
Speaker 2 (04:44):
So I mean, we've gotten so many different walks of
life in just the world of outdoors, even on this
boat today.
Speaker 4 (04:51):
Yeah, this is great bo by the way, thank you guitars.
Speaker 1 (04:56):
For the next hour.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
Allright, tell our New England listeners around here, there's like
a place that maybe the unsung that people don't talk about,
that it's a fishing destination, but you know it's got
great fish.
Speaker 7 (05:09):
All right. Let me put it this way.
Speaker 4 (05:10):
I fish all around the world, and there's one species
of fish.
Speaker 7 (05:13):
I went to.
Speaker 4 (05:15):
Pennsylvania, I went to Canada and small mouth bass fishing.
Speaker 7 (05:20):
It's one of those golden fish.
Speaker 4 (05:23):
I mean, everybody loves a largemouth bass, everybody loves strip bass.
Speaker 7 (05:26):
This is great here.
Speaker 4 (05:27):
But did you know within about twenty mile radius of
here is probably one of the best small mouth bass fishery,
but no one cared to talk about it.
Speaker 3 (05:37):
I have no idea about this. Yes, is this in
these local.
Speaker 4 (05:41):
Rivers, rivers, little canals, freshwater and there are three kinds
of bass that I love to catch. Is largemouth bass,
which everybody knows. And now one of my favorite is
peacock bass, which is from Columbia and Brazilian. But then
now they have it in in Florida.
Speaker 7 (06:02):
But small mouth.
Speaker 4 (06:03):
Happens to be one of the best fighters and one
of my favorite, the most beautiful. They call it's all
golden and they are in this area I fished, trust me,
I fished Saint.
Speaker 7 (06:13):
Martin's with Canada.
Speaker 4 (06:15):
Nice small mouth, but when it comes to numbers, this
area here is phenomenal. But stripe bass takes it's you know,
it takes over. But it's probably the best kept secret.
Speaker 7 (06:28):
There you go.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
Now we're doing lures, were doing live bait, all lures, top.
Speaker 4 (06:33):
Water and and so you know, I am doing seminars
how to catch your personal best.
Speaker 5 (06:37):
I'd have to know because you're you're like jiggling it
and pulling it and stuff.
Speaker 7 (06:41):
You're dirty here, aren't you.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
No, I'm talking lures.
Speaker 3 (06:47):
He's talking.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
You stop.
Speaker 7 (06:50):
You need to get a hold of me, seriously.
Speaker 4 (06:52):
If you want alive. You're a big guy. They can
handle it. I can handle it.
Speaker 3 (06:56):
Sure, it's hard.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
I don't know, but then on my heart, my wife's
got sure it's paid off.
Speaker 7 (07:01):
Okay, there you go.
Speaker 4 (07:03):
No, but this show is awesome. Springtime is here a
little bit of everything you know.
Speaker 7 (07:07):
But let's kick it off right.
Speaker 4 (07:09):
If you like hunting, seriously, this place is it for fishing?
We got some incredible not just me, but some phenomenal
captains here, Joe Deario Brian.
Speaker 7 (07:19):
What do you want tuna fishing? You want a strip badge?
You fly fishing? Want a small mouth?
Speaker 4 (07:23):
And yes, they do talk about small mouth, but they
just they just under the gun, you know, under the radar.
Speaker 7 (07:30):
They don't want to push it.
Speaker 4 (07:31):
So you know, this week I'm here to interrogate my friends,
the captains. They don't want to share the small mouth
because I'm all about small mouth backs.
Speaker 5 (07:41):
Now, would you ask permission for the people here on
the land of the Mohegan Land to fish their little
fisheries and so spot.
Speaker 7 (07:49):
Well, we need to work on that.
Speaker 5 (07:51):
Yeah, absolutely, Yeah, but they look like they have some
nice fishing holes around here.
Speaker 7 (07:57):
You think.
Speaker 4 (07:58):
But they're not going to tell you how they But
then but then again, you know, uh, I might you
might find me in jail, but I'll probably write ten
reasons how to trespass.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
Do you know who Dean Sanders is?
Speaker 7 (08:12):
Uh? In Florida?
Speaker 5 (08:13):
He got exactly so, yes, and he fishes illegally all
the time, Like he'll go to an airport if there's
a pond.
Speaker 4 (08:23):
Oh, I know which airport, I know which airport and
the places he doesn't care.
Speaker 1 (08:28):
No, will try to talk his way out of everything,
kind of like you.
Speaker 7 (08:31):
Yeah, fishing is incredible.
Speaker 1 (08:33):
He goes to where the fish.
Speaker 4 (08:35):
Well, check this out. If you see a sign, not
that I'm going to say you should do it. If
there are signs that says no fishing, come on, let's
get real here.
Speaker 3 (08:45):
Fish monsters in there.
Speaker 6 (08:47):
Yeah, come on that somebody is fishing.
Speaker 7 (08:50):
Somebody is, and that's somebody that may very well go
to jail.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
Let me tell you something that you taught me years ago,
and I've used it different walks of life, not just fishing,
fishing when I haven't gone enough to keep this, You've taught.
Speaker 3 (09:06):
Me to keep logs.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
Keep absolutely write down things that you notice, things that
you see when you're out in the woods. When you
do it, and i'm talking daylight, I'm talking.
Speaker 4 (09:15):
With daylight, weather patterns, everything in creature, in animals, especially
big fish, trophy fish.
Speaker 7 (09:22):
We're a creature of habits.
Speaker 4 (09:23):
So once you identify their habits, you break it down
and certainly you know you're fishing, and the word fishing
is you're actually prospecting. But When you log enough, you
find patterns, it becomes catching. Because the most ironic thing
is those people that actually get skunk and they write
(09:44):
it down. That is a reflection on how you fish.
And when you break it down, reverse your skunk or
you've caught nothing, the likelihood of you're succeeding and finding
the pattern of what these fish are is better than good.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
Well, I was gonna ask you that too, because is like,
why don't I just look at a book? Why don't
I just have some expert tell me what I'm supposed
to do?
Speaker 1 (10:05):
Is mind?
Speaker 3 (10:06):
You know all.
Speaker 7 (10:06):
Fishermen are liars right now that you die.
Speaker 4 (10:12):
But but but if you keep a log, it's a
reflection of yourself, and when you look at it, it's like,
oh darn, I suck. Guess what you can change that
because if you have a lot of skunky days or
those zero days, you reflect it, do the opposite, whether
it's the tide, whether it's the moon, the season, and
you will learn from itself.
Speaker 7 (10:33):
That is a reflection. That is your diary.
Speaker 4 (10:36):
And they had nobody but to blame but yourself, and
you can always improve.
Speaker 7 (10:39):
And that's why I keep a log.
Speaker 3 (10:41):
I'm doing it, man, I log a lot of off
now because of you.
Speaker 7 (10:44):
I appreciate that.
Speaker 3 (10:45):
That's awesome. Where'd you get started on that?
Speaker 4 (10:47):
Where did I start? I was born in Hong Kong,
raising Brazil. In Brazil, I was that young kid. I
believe I told you, I'm the young kid walking barefoot
in the jungle of Brazil handline. And then moved to
here and I started realizing that I could catch a
lot of fish. You know, all fishermen are avid anglers,
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particularly the ones that are craving, and they were addicted
to that crazy fishing and.
Speaker 7 (11:16):
Just keep on developing and developing.
Speaker 4 (11:18):
And I gave up a corporate world fortune one hundred
in the networks. They wanted to move me to Chicago,
and I said, no, I fished.
Speaker 7 (11:26):
They goes, oh, we got a lot of fish. You know,
Lake Erie's got a great place to fish. I said, you
don't understand.
Speaker 4 (11:31):
I fish fresh water, salt water. I trophy love to travel.
So they were going to that. During the era of
the white two k compliance period, all right, that was
the analog turning to digital. I was part of that transition.
It was very successful. We all know we're living in
the digital world. But I knew at the corporate world.
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You work hard, and they work you hard enough. I
need to break away and just fish with the rest
of my life. I created a company called Tactical Anglers
so I could actually fish and excel my passion.
Speaker 3 (12:06):
It's awesome, great job's story.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
Tell people about when you were in New York and
like how you got that done?
Speaker 3 (12:12):
Because there is no Lake Erie.
Speaker 7 (12:15):
I mean, oh no, you know you're You're right, there
is no Here's the thing.
Speaker 4 (12:19):
We have City Island, we have Central Park, we have
they're all great place to fish.
Speaker 3 (12:23):
Central Park's a great place to fish.
Speaker 7 (12:25):
Oh my god. Yes, and they even stock launch mouth bass.
It has also crappies in there.
Speaker 3 (12:30):
Yeah, you were teaching me something every day.
Speaker 7 (12:32):
Oh, it's fantastic. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (12:34):
What's the best state like fish? What's the best tasting
fish you've eaten around this country?
Speaker 7 (12:39):
I love my sushi.
Speaker 4 (12:41):
I mean, obviously you could have tuna, you have the total,
you have the belly part, you have, you have the unagi,
which is the eat and all that. But a local fish, actually,
when I say local, is a seasonal fish in our region.
Black sea bass, hands down, barnum. That fish is so
delicious you could make out of it. You could steam it,
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you could fry it, you could boil it. You can't
go wrong with.
Speaker 3 (13:04):
It, all right.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
So I'm thinking of you in the Everglades all the time.
I'm thinking if I'm doing that, I'm getting my line
tangled probably every five minutes.
Speaker 3 (13:11):
And all those lilies and all those other seaweed things.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
Okay, that's a good point, but I always know too,
and correct me if I'm wrong. I gotta get under
them lilies. I gotta get under them roots because the
body to those colder banks, that's where they hang.
Speaker 4 (13:25):
Yes, absolutely, And that's why there are wheeless lures.
Speaker 7 (13:29):
You know what I mean by making load where.
Speaker 4 (13:31):
You can embed the hook in certain plastic when the
fish which you can go work around the wheel lines
and when the fish strikes.
Speaker 7 (13:39):
It, the hook breaks off and you have a fish.
Speaker 1 (13:42):
On Wow you yeah, I didn't know that.
Speaker 3 (13:45):
Oh yeah, all right.
Speaker 2 (13:46):
So you're here every day, You're doing seminars every day.
Speaker 3 (13:49):
What are you doing?
Speaker 2 (13:50):
Like, gosh, man, you're you're just so wordly and you
do all kinds of fishing. Like what is your seminar
based around? You only got so many minutes?
Speaker 7 (13:57):
Well, you know how funny you should.
Speaker 3 (13:59):
Say that they off, they give you the hook there.
Speaker 4 (14:02):
Basically, I've done so many seminars and it's all about,
you know, passing on the passion and making sure that
we all enjoy the sport that we love so much.
And if you're fascinated or wanted to catch one fish,
a lot of fish, a big fish, then you want
to make it a pattern of catching big fish a
lot where it's no longer lucky, because my definition of
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luck is hard work.
Speaker 7 (14:25):
But my session here.
Speaker 4 (14:27):
Is how to catch your personal best and fulfill your
bucket list. All the basic pattern strategics you go down,
there are moon phases, conditions, and I will explain to
you the magical window how to catch it. I've been
fishing for nearly sixty some ore years. Yes I'm that old, okay,
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and I have one hour, but I'm breaking down the
fundamental basics you must have.
Speaker 7 (14:52):
It's very serious and he's.
Speaker 4 (14:54):
Documented, verify, confirm, not just by me, but world record holders,
those all the things that people don't talk about.
Speaker 7 (15:02):
It's like one of those things. Can you handle the truth?
Speaker 4 (15:05):
But what that truth is? You have to have that
passion and fulfill it and follow it. If you do it,
the likelihood you connect into a world record fish or
the personal best is better than.
Speaker 5 (15:14):
Good Everglades when you're fishing, or even snakes. Try to
get your when you catch something your.
Speaker 7 (15:21):
Friend, to make sure you can run faster than your friend.
Speaker 1 (15:25):
Now you say you're going the middle of the night,
the Everglades.
Speaker 4 (15:27):
Non human hours human the non human hour is very simple.
You know, when people catch those big fish they dream about,
wanted to catch a big fish, there's actually out someone
out there catching the dreamfish in the middle of the night,
because those are the best nights, because most big fish
are nocturnal night featers.
Speaker 3 (15:44):
Are you getting out of there in a fan boat.
Speaker 7 (15:46):
In land base? No way?
Speaker 2 (15:50):
Oh yeah, those big monsters are coming that close to
the shoreline.
Speaker 3 (15:55):
Oh yes, absolutely, Why why are they working? And how
deep is that?
Speaker 7 (16:00):
Okay, okay, now let's get technical here. Just okay. It's
particularly the new moon or the full moon.
Speaker 4 (16:06):
I like the new moon because the water level or
the new moon and the full moon is very high
at that part and the nighttime, the biggest or the
biggest will come in inshore because they're very wary because
it's so dark.
Speaker 7 (16:18):
They are nocturnal, They feeding on slow moving water.
Speaker 4 (16:21):
They're there to feed a very short window and you
know the structure where they're going to be.
Speaker 7 (16:25):
You set your stage, set up that window and your clocker.
Speaker 4 (16:31):
But but in reality, you know these are the biggest
or the biggest.
Speaker 7 (16:34):
One thing.
Speaker 4 (16:34):
I do strongly encourage those are the trophy fish.
Speaker 7 (16:37):
Everybody should catch those.
Speaker 4 (16:38):
Fish, respect their fish, big tackle, and just take a
picture of let.
Speaker 7 (16:42):
It go, right.
Speaker 3 (16:43):
I was just ask you this.
Speaker 1 (16:44):
Yes, this is what we were asking, Brian. I found
this out now.
Speaker 5 (16:48):
Taxing nermists don't need the actual thing anymore than a
picture of it, and they'll recreate it perfectly.
Speaker 7 (16:54):
Absolutely.
Speaker 3 (16:55):
So, why why do you fish? What is the passion?
What is it about it?
Speaker 7 (17:00):
In other words, what makes me tick?
Speaker 3 (17:01):
What makes me tick?
Speaker 7 (17:04):
Ever since?
Speaker 4 (17:04):
I always wanted to I love the water, I love
the nature, I love the solitude. But then you connecting
with nature, understanding big fish, and just wanted.
Speaker 7 (17:13):
To know what is it about those fish that you
can connect with. I just love fishing. It's the sport
and that's what it's boiled down to.