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March 26, 2025 15 mins
The guys are joined by the director of the CIAC, Glenn Lungarini, where they talk all things high school sports in the state of Connecticut, as the state tournaments for high school basketball and hockey are underway! 
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Glenn, how are you, sir?

Speaker 2 (00:01):
Doing well?

Speaker 3 (00:02):
Ralph?

Speaker 2 (00:02):
How are you today?

Speaker 1 (00:03):
Fantastic? You know, when you look at all the basketball
championships over the weekend, and the women and all the
other stuff swimming, what does success look like for you
guys over at the CIAC when you put all that
stuff together.

Speaker 2 (00:17):
Number one that we look at is student experience. You know,
we want kids and spectators to come to our events.
We want them to engage in a safe environment, to
be able to have an experiences similar to a big
time experience as we can get them. Again, for ninety
four percent of our student athletes, high school sports is
where their career ins. We only have about six percent

(00:39):
going on to play at the college level. So when
we have opportunities and these championship venues and events to
give them an experience that creates lifelong memories, that's success
for us.

Speaker 3 (00:49):
I think we had a lot of that this weekend
with those state championship basketball games. Now we are in
the world of some semi state hockey and some stateies
right around the corner Quinnipiac gonna host. What tell me
about the sites and kind of how this all happens.
Quinnipiac's m and T Bank Arena in Hamden is going
to be a part of what the D three semis,

(01:09):
the D two semis and all of it.

Speaker 2 (01:11):
Right, You're right. We have all three divisional semis and
finals are at Quinnipiac University. And you know, this was
a goal of ours starting about five years back, where
we wanted to take all of our state championships in
any college or professional venue within the state that we
can bring the championships to. We wanted to give that
experience and hockey Quinnipiac has been a great partner with us.

(01:34):
Again as they come out, they use the college crews
for the streaming of the games as well as everything
from the introduction the same thing in basketball this weekend,
so you know, you get the lights come down, you
have the spotlight on the starting line up. It really
is an amazing experience for the kids. Quinnipiac has been
a great partner as well.

Speaker 1 (01:54):
Talking to Glenn longerini cias executive director, I wanted to
ask you about I mean, you know, we talk about
college all the time and pro we don't talk enough
about high school. But I mean it's huge, especially in
this state where I grew up. You know, recruiting talking
to colleges, things like that, do you sit down with
the coaching staffs or the athletic directors and warn them that,

(02:16):
you know, these are some of the rules that these
you know, student athletes have to go by to make
sure that they're eligible to play at the high school level.

Speaker 2 (02:25):
I think high school sports is the last true amateur
level that's left. And we're even seeing kids now, you know,
rob is as young as middle school who are starting
to gauge and engage in some of these name image
and likeness deals and contract talks as well. So the
the recruiting concept from you know, our generation to where

(02:46):
we are now has changed significantly. So and that's where
CIAC has tried to step up with the June scholastic
basketball events and showcases. We'll be hosting our first football
combine coming up, where looking at doing a showcase for
softball and baseball as well. So we're trying to create

(03:06):
a level play and field of resources kids to understand
how they should be engaging with college coaches through the
recruiting process and that you don't need to spend thousands
of dollars with agencies or other clubs to be able
to communicate and market yourself.

Speaker 3 (03:24):
You have no idea how excited I am for this
football combine showcase. You and I have talked about this
over the years. I think the pandemic is when we
were really starting to kick it around. Man, I'm so
excited for this. I'm so glad we got this going
on and you were telling me back then. Man, I
want to do it for baseball and softball too, because
I know you're a baseball guy coming from your world
of sports, but this is awesome. This is so great

(03:45):
for all these kids. Also, there's not every state does this,
but the ones that I know do, they have a
better chance to getting their kids to the next level.
And I think this is definitely going to do that
for Connecticut. I know I'm the football guy and I
want to know like everything about the football one. But
tell us as much as you can about these showcases,
like where they are and how you can get involved

(04:06):
with them.

Speaker 2 (04:07):
Absolutely, so you know this showcase, the football one is
a individual registration for student athletes, so you can register
right on our website CIAC dot FD sports dot org.
Right on our main page is the link to that
registration that they can fill out. It will be May fourth.
We're holding it at Western Connecticut State University. We already

(04:31):
have a number of colleges that have committed to come.
We'll have some staff from Western Connecticut State University assists
in us as well as well as high school coaches
to run kids through the typical combine type experiences that
you'll see and you know and running the forty times,
having skill work, real work to really give you know,

(04:53):
coaches an opportunity to see our kids. So it's a
long time coming round. We needed to get our odist
season rules modified a little bit, which we did last year,
and this has opened up great possibilities for us for
coaches to work with in the offseason.

Speaker 1 (05:10):
Glenn, you know my old high school coach, now Fontana
was the president of the Coaches Association and he used
to do clinics all the time. Do you still do
coaches clinics or is that something you know you'd like
to maybe get back to you, because I'd love to
get involved with you and try to do that in
a different sports. Because I'm working with the Little League

(05:31):
here in Middlebury Southburry Woodbury. They don't have enough coaches
and it's basically trying to coach the coaches on how
to coach these younger kids. Do you guys do anything
like that?

Speaker 2 (05:41):
Yeah, there's more of that needed than what we have
right now. Most of those, as you said, John usually
ran those through the High School Coaches Association. I remember
those five Star camps up at Suthington High School very well,
and he did a lot of as you said, coaching clinics.
Len Porto is the executive director of the High School
Coaches Association. Now they just ran a football clinic in December. Uh,

(06:06):
so it is something that that is still being run, uh,
but not enough when and we're talking about trying to
do as any sports as possible. For example, we just
had conversations with the New England USDA about how we
can bring coaching clinics for uh, for tennis in We've
talked with First D Connecticut about clinics for golf. So
it's not just the you know, the main four sports

(06:28):
that I think people associate with, but we're looking at
creating these clinics across all sports.

Speaker 3 (06:34):
How are we doing with by the way, talking to
Glenn Lungerni c I a C executive director, how are
we doing with refs? And umpires right now, what are
the numbers? What are the needs?

Speaker 2 (06:46):
A specialty sports are still a struggle. So when we
look at sports like wrestling, gymnastics, uh, you know, things
where there is a specialty to that, numbers are still
very low. Football, all basketball, baseball, softball. We've recovered fairly
well in those sports, soccer, field, hockey. We'd like to

(07:08):
see a little bit more there. But you know, I
got to tell you that the challenge is still the
what the experience is for these officials in the first
two years that they officiate when it comes to their
experience with spectators. If what we've seen through the data
is if we can keep officials after the first two years,

(07:28):
then they generally stay with us. It's the officials that
register and then leave officiating within year one and two.
You know that that is the demographic that we're losing
and they're not coming back. So we continue to work
with our schools on setting expectations and standards of behavior
from coaches, players and spectators, and we need to continue

(07:49):
to work on that.

Speaker 1 (07:50):
Is there a website that people can go to? I mean,
I have no idea about the umpiring, referee officials and
stuff like that that they have to go to a
school or just classes.

Speaker 2 (08:01):
Yeah, so again another nice thing. You can go right
to the CIAC website. You can click on our officiating page.
We have every state board association for every sport that's
on there. You can get all the information you need
to nail of whatever sport you're interested in to get
involved in officiating. Contact information is there, rules book information

(08:22):
is their rules test. So you can get all the
information you need right on the CIAC website. All those
those officials groups they get people started with the youth groups,
work their way up to varsity level sports, and in
many cases there's pathways for those interested as well to
get into the collegiate level.

Speaker 3 (08:40):
I'm sure your world has evolved just like the rest
of the sports world, especially in the last five years.
I would say it's really ramped up with the NIL
in your world, and you know, you don't have to
deal with transferring as much. And I know that's a
whole other topic and we've probably got too little of
a show to get into, but I do want to
pick your brain about NIL for high school kids. How
much of this have you seen? What are the different

(09:02):
rules that may have changed, Like just an overall view
from when we were in school. Man, this was not
an option and in fact, we had to avoid these
kind of things in all costs. So, like, how has
it really changed in your world as being the CIAC
executive director.

Speaker 2 (09:18):
Anything that changes at the NC double A level eventually
works its way down into high school sports. You know,
when you look at the standard of what constitute an
amateurism policy, that is the gold standards. So if you
can do it in the NC double A and you
still retain amateur status, why can't you do it at
the high school level? And that's how to restritt down.

(09:41):
Hopefully transferring doesn't get there, Like you said, I think
it's go to college and major in the transfer portal
at this point. But for NIL information, you know, we're
hoping that we have some restrictions on it. We do
permit it, but we do not permit people to engage
anything that has to do with alcohol substances, you know,

(10:03):
things of that nature. When our policy is if you
advocators going to engage in an NIL contract, they must
submit it to the school. The school submits it to
the CIAC, I submit it to our legal counsel. We
review it to ensure that all amateur with amateurism rules
are followed in the contracts, so the kid is not

(10:25):
at jeopardy for losing their amateurism status. So we bear
the legal costs of that. We then return it to
the student athlete and the school with any recommendations that
we have. And that's gone from contracts that have been
from they came in to others where kids have not
signed a deal because of the information that we've given

(10:45):
back to them and when they try to negotiate it,
it was not a good deal for the kid.

Speaker 3 (10:50):
Love that, Glenn.

Speaker 1 (10:51):
I wanted to go back to something that Bell was
talking about and you were talking about with the experience
for the umpires and the referees. I mean since COVID
full and kind of angry with refs and things like that. Yeah,
and it's like it's it's gotten more personal. I know
because I have you know, AAU sixteen you team that travels,
and I talked to umpires around New England and even

(11:13):
the New York and New Jersey area. How do you
deal with that? As far as the fans are unruly,
you know, I'm sure you know what high school gyms
are difficult to referee in how do you guys deal
with that as an entity?

Speaker 2 (11:30):
Yeah, you know this was an issue before COVID, but
COVID really exacerbated it, and you know, we saw it
much more as became came back since since COVID, and
one of the key points for us in the high
school level to address it was to engage the kids.
So we have a student Athlete Advisory Board and a
Sportsmanship Committee that runs out of CIAC that is equal

(11:53):
representation from student athletes, principals, athletic directors and coaches and
having the kids drive the expectations of what they want
to see from spectators at the game. We've used our
media department to create PSAs to send out through social
media to parents, make points of emphasis in all preseason

(12:18):
meetings at our schools with parents about what the standards
of expectation are and then following through those. I can
tell you in the last three years from CIAC, we
have banned four parents from attending any CIAC championship event
for a three hundred and sixty five day period.

Speaker 3 (12:36):
We do not.

Speaker 2 (12:38):
Tolerate any offensive behavior being directed towards whether it's coaches, officials,
or athletes at our championship events.

Speaker 3 (12:47):
You're here, man, totally with that. I totally agree with you,
Glenn Longerini. The one reason I well multiple reasons, I
love you as you entertained some stupid ideas for yours
truly and sometimes even do the man, I'm just loving
these combat the showcases that you're doing that we talked
about a few years ago, and I got another one
for you. I'm gonna float another nugget in your head now,
maybe that you've already thought about this. I've heard some

(13:09):
talk around the state, but I know this is not
a sanctioned sport in the state of Connecticut, but it's
growing across the country. Girls flag football, dude, I love it,
and there's more and more girls participating every single year
in this What are the chances Connecticut gets girls flag football?

Speaker 2 (13:28):
Well, take a look at the end of mayor because
we're going to have our first girls flag football state
championship in May this year, and we have run some
pilot programs. Chris Fullland out of Winter High School and
the Central Connecticut Conference has done an amazing job of
growing this in the central part of Connecticut. So he

(13:50):
has more than a dozen teams that are going to
be participating in a season this spring and then in
the fall out. In the Southern Connecticut Conference, there's been
a teams for us. It's been trying to strike the
balance between how do we run this and not take
away athletes from other sports, particularly in small schools because

(14:11):
they rely on those multi sport athletes for some of
those softball teams, soccer, you know, for some of those
teams to have enough kids to run. So right now
we're running this on the activity side of our association
so it doesn't have the limitation of not being able
to play on another team within that season. We're going
to try to run these games on weekends and the

(14:33):
championship on a Sunday so it doesn't conflict with other
sports as we start to grow this. But we are
going to hand out a state championship flack this spring
for flag football and we want to see that grow
in the future.

Speaker 1 (14:48):
Awesome, Glenn, that's fantastic. As always, you're so informative and
keep us abreast of all the new things going on
at the high school level. I appreciate it and let
Ben and I know can help you promote any of
these combines or any of these things that you need
help promoting to get more kids involved, because that's what
I'm into now is just trying to showcase these kids

(15:10):
so they have every chance to get to college. Like
you said, was six percent now of high school athletes
get to go to college to play. That that's very low.

Speaker 2 (15:18):
That's yeah, that's it, you know, six percent and you're
looking at you know, really one to one and a
half percent in getting scholarships. So we'd certainly be interested.
We will follow up with you on that. You know,
be careful, what's your offer. We're crazy enough to pick
you up on it.

Speaker 3 (15:33):
We're here, you know where you can get involved.

Speaker 2 (15:36):
We appreciate it.

Speaker 3 (15:37):
Man, Thank you Glenn, Thank you sir.

Speaker 2 (15:39):
Thanks guys, have a great day.
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