Where can you find white bass?

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Speaker 2 (00:10):
Now here's Doug Pike made it. Ah made it. I
had to run all the way back to my desk,
which is not just exactly right around the corner here,
for an important piece of paper. I got the piece
of paper. I'm seated behind the microphone. I will put
that away, bring this up, roll that up, and three pointer.

(00:33):
There you go. Welcome to Saturday morning. Thanks for listening.
Glad you're here. I did run a long ways, believe
it or not. I'm not exactly a marathon, but it's
not exactly just right around the block either. So anyway,
I got what it needed and we are off and
running a little bit of house cleaning before we get

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into the guts of the program, if you will the
you're planning the trip to Galaton today, and I know
a couple of people at least for sure, who are going.
There's there's a big event going on down there today,
but it's it's not open to the public. This is
kind of a preview grand opening of the Texas Surf Museum,

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and we're gonna talk in the nine o'clock hour. We're
gonna talk to Ellis Pickett. He'll be down there by then,
hopefully if he doesn't get stuck on the bridge. But
the down and back today there are alternate lane closures
according to the text dot or whoever puts those those
announcements out on the causeway, and from what I'm seeing

(01:38):
on my phone and what I'm hearing, it can take hours.
It can take hours to get across that bridge and
just navigate that one little strip of road down there.
That's basically the only way you're gonna get there, unless
you cut back down over San Luis Pass and work

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your way back up to eighty eight, which really, honestly,
if I was going down there today, that's exactly what
I do, Just a nice smooth drive now there. There'll
be a lot more traffic on to eighty eight and
on the Coastal Highway down there at Surfside than usual
because of that bridge closure. But it's still beats sitting

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there for three and a half four hours, five hours,
well maybe not five. I don't even I don't want
it to take two hours to get across the causeway bridge.
Actually I don't want it to take ten minutes to
get across the causeway bridge. It shouldn't, but there is
clearly very important work going on down there, and we're
all just gonna have to kind of deal with it.

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Put these headphones on so I can start feeling like
like I'm doing my job. Uh sometime today, By the way,
we're gonna get a front. It's gonna shove temperatures down
into the low forties tonight and high thirties tomorrow night
and a bearing my. Anytime I talk about whether I'm
talking about you have to translate it for your region

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wherever you live in the greater Metropolitan Houston area. If
you live north of I ten, you can peel a
couple of degrees off the projected low temperature for day
and night. If you live south of I ten, you
can add a couple of degrees. And if you live

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along the coast, typically usually you can probably add five
or six degrees to what the low is being predicted
up here because you have the warming effect of the
Gulf of Mexico. Closer you get down there, the better
off you're going to be. As far as that goes.
It's the same anywhere really in a city an area

(03:53):
as big as ours is. In an area as big
as ours is, the forecasters don't really stand a chance.
That's one of the reasons I'll I'll go to a
weather channel or someplace when I'm looking online for weather information,
and I'll dial in sugar Land or I'll dial in
the Woodlands. That's where my mother in law is, and

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you can get more accurate, not quite down to your
house versus the house across the street, but at least
you'll have a better idea of rain chances and all
of that. And then I do like weather channels, interactive radar,
that's one of my favorites. And there's all kinds of
sources for that stuff, but I like the way I

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can just I can manipulate that particular site best. Anyway,
not a big deal. So we're gonna get this one,
this little front today late today, I think it is
sometime low in the low forties tonight, and then into
the high thirties tomorrow night, a couple of nice days
after that, and then we pull another front that's supposed

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to bring us actually bring two nights of freezing cold,
not like what we got a while back. So you
don't have to worry about going out and doing anything
super super special to your house. Just just take some
because precautions and make sure everything's covered that you don't
want to get frostbit. I lost a few plants in

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this last one. I didn't cover it. We have some
lantana in the front and I didn't cover that stuff.
And it's it's just twigs right now. It's kindling if
you will. But I did check with Skip Ripter over
on the on the garden line, and he said not
to worry. Just cut it back, just cut it all
the way down and just be patient and low and behold.

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When the growing season resumes, all of it should come back.
It's going to take a while for it to grow
back to as big as it was. But if it'll
grow back and I don't have to go buy more
of that stuff and plant it myself, I'm all for it.
I've got the patience to wait for it to regrow.
I think my wife might prefer that I just go
and buy about, I don't know, a half a dozen

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ten gallon containers of lantana and start covering them again.
She and I she doesn't mind me going out and
covering plants in the winter. I don't want to, and
I the last time we landscaped really really did an overhaul.
I told the guy, just don't put in anything that

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I have to cover in the winter, and my wife
actually agreed to that. And then over a year or two,
all of a sudden, there's stuff out there that I've
got to go cover. So that's on my radar, unfortunately,
as is the fishing show down there at the GRB.
I was down there Thursday and had a great time.
And gosh, that particular show is I've called it for

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probably the better part of thirty years, dating back into
my newspaper time and when I was writing about it
so often. It's the unofficial opening of spring in this
re because there's no question up until now. Up until
the show started, it was kind of like, yeah, it's

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maybe maybe it's time to go fishing. Maybe it's not
really maybe it's gonna get better, we just have to
wait and see. But when when you walk through the
doors of that place and you see all of that
fishing tackle, just like you're like a kid at Christmas.
They're all the toys in there, everything from from little

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bitty hook's lines and sinkers to giant, fully rigged boats.
You know, it's fishing time now, and that's all it. Well,
that and the economy or what the two people or
the two things I was hearing most conversation about, and
I probably pulled, I don't know, a couple of dozen
people exhibitors in there, said what's the mood in the industry?

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And these are guys I've known. They're not gonna they're
not gonna blow smoke at me and and try to
sugarcoat anything. If it was bad, they'd say bad. And
every single one of them said, Yeah, we're optimistic, man,
We're gonna roll out a bunch of stuff this year.
Everybody's getting back into fishing. Everybody's happy. Everybody's happy again,

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and they want to go fishing, and boy, can you
find the stuff you want out there? Seven three two
one two five seven ninety Email me Doug Pike at
the iHeartMedia dot com. By the way, these this next front,
not the one that's coming in today, but the one
that's coming in next week. That one's going to be
cold enough to get your attention for real. So keep

(08:36):
a coat by the door if you've got to go
out and walk a dog or drag garbage cans down
to the street on either of those two days. I
think it's going to be Tuesday and Wednesday night, maybe
something like that, or maybe Wednesday and Thursday. I think
it's Tuesday and Wednesday. I'm not sure, but you're only
a couple of clicks on your phone from an official
forecast for your your area, and I would i'd kind

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of recommend going ahead and getting one. Holy out, man,
it's gonna be another doozy. I walked out this morning
thinking I wasn't gonna have enough on after yesterday morning,
and this morning it was back to springtime. I've been
kind of joking throughout the week on fifty plus about
our kind of oddball seasons that we have and the

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oddball season that we're in now I call wing because
it's it's not quite winter and it's not quite spring.
It's a little mixture of both back and forth. What
were the other ones? Winter? Spring, Spring? So, yeah, Sprummer.
You got Sprummer coming up in about a month, and
it's gonna be You'll get a cool day, then it'll

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be eighty five or eighty eight at some point in Sprummer,
and then summerfall. Oh, that's summer All like the sportscaster,
only only he died in twenty thirteen. But Pat summer
All was a famous He was a football player and
an announcer in that transition. Gosh, nobody's done that since then, huh.

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And then of course you get to to Falter, and
Falter is clearly the combination of fall and winter. So
if you're looking for some way to just confuse the
people around you and make make them think they need
to take you somewhere for evaluation, talk about those half
seasons that I'm talking about. Now, let me check email

(10:24):
real quick before I before I go to break. I
was looking for something specific, and in my haste to
come over here, I took down the program, so I'm
gonna try to pop it back up here quickly. I'm
counting on seeing one specific email this morning, and I
won't even tell you who it's gonna be from if
it's here, but I'll tell you I'm gonna be looking

(10:46):
for it, and that person knows I'm looking for it. Okay,
it's not come in yet, but it's gonna be. It's
gonna be good. When it does, it'll be good news.
And I may or may not share it. It's not
it's not not necessarily for broadcast, but it's just something
I'm hoping to see pretty soon. Going back to the show,
for those of what is that noise coming from? For

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those of you who have already been, I'm curious to
know how you feel about what you saw and what
it means to us, and whether or not you saw
things that excited you that didn't excite you at all.
What's your feedback. I want to know, because I, like

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I said, I was very optimistic walking in even from
what i'd heard talking to some of the exhibitors who
were going to be there and about what they're bringing
and what they have and this, that and the other.
I was already optimistic, but I'm even more so after
going through there and seeing everything. I don't recall seeing
as many purveyors of soft plastic baits as there are

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in there this time around, and that's a hard business
to be in. It would do us all some good,
really to go in there and just maybe pick up
one or two packs of lures from all these soft
plastics people, unless you want to see some of them
struggling down the road, because it's a hard business to
stay in. There's a lot of competition, there's not a

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lot of margin. But man, these guys are putting out
some beautiful baits these days. They really are good looking.
And the technology because of AI, the technology that's going
into these designs, and the patterns built into the plastic,
not the coloration, but just the actual the physical patterns

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of peaks and valleys in the plastic and whatnot, if
you will, it's all being done not by trial and
error as it was when Mark Nichols was first bringing
up DOA Lures. Somewhere in my garage there is a
prototype of one of his earliest shrimp, and I am
determined to find that thing. It's out there. I know

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it is. I just never mind. I don't want to
talk about that, Scott, if you're listening this morning, just
don't bring it up, Okay, But it's out there, and
I know it's in a safe place wherever that place is,
so I'm not worried about it, but I want to
get to it before the great purge starts. Okay, let's
go ahead and take this first break of the program.
We'll come back, we'll talk some more fishing.

Speaker 3 (13:22):
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Speaker 2 (13:32):
Talk seven ninety. Don't forget to pay attention to the rejoins.
Melvin's cooked up another what is it? One, two, three,
four or five pout six seven eight songs that have
a theme. And if you can figure out the theme,
you too can mosey on down here at some point
and pick up one of these absolutely delicious baskets full

(13:56):
of Brasis River Provisions Company, gems, jellies, and sauces. Faux
Pro came by Forest Wilkinson k by yesterday with one
of his buddies. I'm sorry, I can't recall the man's
name right now. Oh my gosh, I'm so bad with names.
But anyway, Faux Pro came by and picked up his
basket and in turn brought me a couple of little

(14:19):
pork and venison biscuits and sausage, and oh man, that
was some kind of good. That was some kind of
good man seven three two, one two five seven ninety
Email on me Doug Pike at iHeartMedia dot com. I'll
go back to these emails in a bit. I want
to kind of stick with the fishing show in addition

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to seeing all those all those soft plastics out there,
and I mean there are tons of them. Oh, by
the way, I saw something kind of funny the other day.
If you're you're stash of soft plastics, I believe I
met I brought this up this past weekend. But if
your stash of soft plastics is anything like mine, where
you come home from a trip and you had a

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nice neat bag full of stuff that you put on
the boat, and then when you get home anything you
tore off in haste to put on something else, you
just threw into the bottom of the bag, And I
don't whatever you do with him when you get home.
They are just miscellaneous plastic baits, soft plastic baits all
over the place. Well, this one guy has taken to

(15:25):
melting them down and just creating his own unique colors
just by whatever's in the bucket. Just melt them down,
pouring the molds and pull them out and start fishing
with them, and he'll go he says. He adds glitter
and adds sparkle, and this that and the other to

(15:45):
make them a little bit more tempting to the fish.
But basically all he's doing is just recycling his soft
plastics and the colors, some of the colors he showed
on there were got to tell you pretty sure they
catch fish. They certainly look good anyway, they certainly look good.

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So you've got that, you've got the rods and rod technology.
All technology, all technology, I don't even have to stop
at fishing. All technology is benefiting tremendously from artificial intelligence. Now,
there are some aspects of artificial intelligence that I don't

(16:26):
like at all. I don't like I don't like that.
I don't mind that kids use AI to take notes
in class and to I've seen, because my son's about
to go into college in a year and a half,
I'm starting to see stuff in my email and Facebook

(16:47):
feeds that tells about different programs that can help these
kids in college to take notes. It helps them organize
their notes, it helps them study in advance for the
tests that are ultimately going to come up. And I'm
all for a teaching tool, just so long as they

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don't use it to cheat and have it create an
entire ten page essay or something like that. I don't
mind help. I don't mind using it as a tool,
but if it makes it too easy, then it becomes
sort of an issue, kind of like forward looking sonar,

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kind of like the live scope stuff that's going on.
And it's not cheating. If everybody knows you can use
it during the tournament, and you use it and you
catch a lot of fish, then good for you. If
nobody's supposed to use it but you do, then that's cheating.

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I was talking to a guy I can't remember his
name right now from Breakwater Marine. I think it is.
I'm going to have him on next week, not this week.
He's too busy at the show. But it's a company
that I actually used to do some business with for
the show years and years ago, two locations of their
store ago. I came to find out at the fishing show.

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And I think Derek's the guy's first name. I can't
remember his last name. He's the guy who runs the show.
I was talking to one of his underlings who was
working the booth Thursday afternoon. The bottom line is, he said,
almost everybody's putting it in their boats. The freshwater guys
were first. The saltwater guys, he said, are a little
more old school and they're slow to change over to

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stuff like that, but they are changing over now, because
there's just no question that being able to see exactly
what's under the boat and out in front of the boat. Actually,
to be able to see what's out in front of
the boat and decide whether you want to throw a
lure to it, that's pretty cool stuff. I'm still old

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school enough that I want to wonder what's down there.
I want to hope that I'm throwing my lure in
front of a big trout or a big red fish,
or a big king mackerel offshore or whatever it is
I'm throwing in hopes of catching. But this this stuff,
if you can hold your nose and invest the money,

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it's gonna make you a better a better catcher of fish. Uh, clearly,
what's going on in addition to everything else, I can't
see Melvin. Melvin can see me. I can't see Melvin.
And we're having trouble getting phones to hook up. See
if you can just kind of hardwire that one, you

(19:39):
think you can hit it? Oh, okay, I'll try Alan,
can you hear me?

Speaker 4 (19:46):
Huh?

Speaker 2 (19:46):
Here we go, yes, sir, Oh well let's go. Then
you're up and at him. What's on your mind? Before
he let hers out?

Speaker 5 (19:54):
Hey, what's the uh. Okay. First of all, medium light
rod a speci, the ones.

Speaker 4 (20:02):
You know.

Speaker 2 (20:03):
I would go out there. It's kind of like golf
clubs when you get down to any specific medium light
go out there and and put some or wherever you're
gonna buy it, put hands on several different options, and
then ask the person. Ask the person you're talking to
how how this rod is? Find two or three you like,

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and say, okay, how's this one different from that one?
And and if that person says, well, that one's yellow
and that one's blue, then go somewhere else you need.

Speaker 5 (20:35):
You need somebody big, the big box store. I know
they'll they'll carry him if looked a hundred times over there.
Somebody have to go online or go to maybe Fishing
Tackle Unlimited or somewhere like that.

Speaker 2 (20:46):
Go to the fishing show.

Speaker 6 (20:47):
Man the money today.

Speaker 5 (20:50):
I was going to, but I can so I.

Speaker 2 (20:52):
Got you what about tomorrow?

Speaker 6 (20:54):
Can you?

Speaker 5 (20:54):
That was my number one plan? So no, no, oh.

Speaker 2 (20:57):
Okay, so no fishing show.

Speaker 4 (20:59):
You know.

Speaker 2 (20:59):
I would call someplace like FTU that that sells that
is just fishing tackle basically, because you've got to find
somebody who can who can talk about the engineering and
these rods, because there's subtle, subtle differences all the way
from the butt to the tip, and you want to
make sure that you get And here's something else to

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you can You can talk yourself out of buying anything,
or talk yourself yourself as a fisherman, you can talk
yourself into buying anything. And if it kind of feels
good in the store, and maybe see if they'll let
you load it up a little bit, get some line
to run through the guides, and then just wrap it
around your finger at where the reel would be and
have them put some pressure on it, and just look

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at how that rod bends, and then do the same
thing with another one, and you'll see where you know
where it's strongest and where it's hardest, and where it's softest,
and you'll get an idea of whether you like it
or not.

Speaker 5 (21:55):
And once you I don't want to spend you know,
a thousand dollars on one either, So you need to
find a medium range.

Speaker 2 (22:01):
Yeah, you don't need to spend a thousand dollars on
the road, and you know there's a lot of them
out there. You want boy, go start fly fishing. Start
fly fishing. See how much it costs.

Speaker 5 (22:11):
Can I ask another question? Of course, I don't know
if you're about run out of time. Hey, So look,
I was looking at binoculars, and then I was looking
at the telescope type binoculars, you know, the single vision.
It's it seems like I do better when I when
I close one eye look through my scope. That if
I'm trying to look through binoculars, because I guess the

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way my vision is. I don't know. I'm just wondering,
is there a preference. Well, if you're if you'reocular individual.

Speaker 2 (22:42):
If your binoculars are are dialed in correctly, it's it's
going to show you a monocular view. You're gonna be
looking at just a circle. They're not two circles. When
you close those things up, you only get one. So
I'm a little confused as to why you you would
want to change out of that. I mean, if you
want to carry a monocular, that's all right. It look

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like a p Is that what they call that? The
yeah monocular m O n O. Yeah. Yeah, it's buy
buy for two and mono for one and that's all
one old TV.

Speaker 5 (23:16):
You know, here we go TV sales, and I thought, well,
I'll just spend money to try it out. If I
don't like it, I don't have to sure.

Speaker 2 (23:23):
Yeah, well, spotting scopes are almost all monocular. You can
you can spend thousands of dollars and get a binocular one,
but the most of the spotting scopes are just one
eyeball on the lens and that's it.

Speaker 5 (23:35):
Well, you know, it seems like the smaller, the smaller binoculars.
You know, you try, you know, they're lightweight, easy to carry,
blah blah blah, but then when you go look through them,
it's like your eyeballs are like hanging out the sides
of them. Yeah. Then if you go too big, you know,
it's like carrying a net set of navive binoculars around.
You need another backpack to carry that thing around.

Speaker 2 (23:57):
There is a lot of ground in between. Uh, don't
count on lightweight binoculars to do a whole lot for
you in low light conditions. And that's where, especially as
a deer hunter, that's where your binoculars have to shine
is in low light. You need to be able to
see up into the woods to see where that buck

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that doesn't want to come out, you need to be
able to see him. That's something Bill Carter tropped me
one hundred years ago. He said, when I'm glassing the
edge of a field, what I'll do is I'll find
a tree. When I put my binocerars up, I'll find
a tree that's about ten fifteen feet up in there,
and that's where I set my focus because I want
to see that deer that's not coming out to the edge.

Speaker 5 (24:38):
And boy, yeah, because like I said, you're right, you
need low light, because, yeah, most things happen if any
sun's going down or coming up. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (24:46):
Oh, and that's a good reason to buy a good
scope too, because there's nothing more frustrating than having those binoculars.
You got great binoculars, and you see this deer up
in the woods, oh man, and it's just about last light,
and you bring your rifle up. You can't see squad
up in the woods because you bought a cheap scope.
So make sure you've got plenty of light going through there.

Speaker 7 (25:07):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (25:07):
We could do hours on binoculars and the way light
passes through them, and while all the coatings on the
lenses matter. I'm gonna make a note about that actually,
and maybe we'll come back to a little bit later.
How's that so good. All right, Alan, Yeah, I do.
I have to take a break now, thanks man, Audios,
tell faux Pro call us back. We think we got

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it figured out. That's the good news. The bad news
is this computer. Well, your computer will work, Melvin, but
mine is telling me that I got about four minutes
before it's gonna shut down and restart. And I don't
have a I don't have a choice in the matter.

Speaker 1 (25:43):
Unfortunately, your Rockets and astros live here.

Speaker 8 (25:47):
We are Sports Talk seven ninety. The conversation continues this
as the Doug Pike Show.

Speaker 2 (25:54):
All right, well we're back seven thirty seven on Sports
Talk seven ninety. The good news is my computer restarted.
The bad news is I may not have the let
me see if this is well, Yeah, put Forest on
the line for me, because I've got a I don't
even have the keyboard for this thing in front of me. Here,
I'll pro you there, let's go to Rick Rick you there.

Speaker 6 (26:20):
Well, yeah, we bypassed Captain Cranbury. Anyway, I was just
gonna make a comment on the scopes and yeah, please
do let me ask Let me ask you a question.
Have you ever had a scope, a rifle scope or binocular?
Follow up on you.

Speaker 9 (26:39):
Yeah.

Speaker 10 (26:41):
Oh yeah, let me let me tell you what.

Speaker 6 (26:43):
I do about that, Okay. And I don't use cheap stuff.
I mean my stuff. I mean, I've got good stuff.
But here's a chip. There's nothing worse than getting out
just for the daylight, all right, or whenever and you're
you're you're you're scouting around or you're fix shooting, and

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you're they're followed up. You can't see, okay, right, that's
pretty aggravating. What I do is when I'm gonna go
hunting and I'm gonna take my rifle with a scope
and it ain't cheap gop, and I'm gonna take my
binoculars before I leave the camp house or the house

(27:30):
or whatever that night, before I'm gonna go hunt. I'm
gonna put them in the seat of my truck.

Speaker 2 (27:37):
Oh yeah, I'm gonna you. Bill Carter had the same rule.
You didn't leave your rifles inside the cabin the bunk
house because sure is shooting. If you did, it was
gonna fog up the minute you walked outside, and it
wasn't gonna unfog for an hour. Yeah, I agree with

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some other thing is because.

Speaker 6 (28:03):
You know it kind of obviously depends on the temperature outside.
But it's cold outside. That means I've got on layers
of clothes so I don't turn on the heater, go
into my deer skin or my shooting spider or whatever.
But anyway, I've had lots of people. I'll say, man,

(28:25):
I had him. I had him, and I threw the
scope up his father.

Speaker 2 (28:28):
I just couldn't. Yeah, that's not good man.

Speaker 6 (28:31):
Yeah, it's just just a tip. You set it in
the seat of the truck, or said it where it can.

Speaker 2 (28:36):
Get wet, or we were we were in a very
remote location and usually we just leave them on the porch.

Speaker 6 (28:45):
I've done that, but I mean, I mean, yeah, anywhere.
You just don't want them to get inside. Yeah, you
don't want to know if it's high humidity or something. Anyway,
just just a reminder you don't want to miss that.
The last time shot a fog that was knocking.

Speaker 2 (29:06):
By the time they gets it's lunchtime by the time
they un folk sub days.

Speaker 6 (29:12):
Thanks for taking my call. That's it.

Speaker 2 (29:13):
That's all you got this morning? Are you? Are you
out and about?

Speaker 11 (29:18):
I am, But.

Speaker 6 (29:20):
It's just just enough. Drizzling can do a whole lot,
So I am kind of. I've been asked, uh and
compensated to do something I don't want to do this week.

Speaker 2 (29:36):
Oh no, you don't even want to talk about.

Speaker 6 (29:43):
Well, I'm a real estate broker, big ranch to a guy,
and he built this massive compound and he has a caretaker.
I mean, he's got the whole the hole down yard,
the whole inch, a lot of the barns, the shops
for him, of waters. He wants me to come up

(30:06):
today and he's gonna show me where to cut off
the water off in case something starts flooding. Well, it's
an hour from where I live. Actually it's about an
hour and a half.

Speaker 2 (30:18):
Yeah, just pop up.

Speaker 6 (30:21):
Yeah, he's going out of town. I said, just turn
it off. He said, no, I've got people coming up
here for the weekend week And I was trying to
I'm trying to give in. I don't want to come
price but and I'm trying to service out of my business.
I'm like to get rid of that part. You know

(30:42):
what you to me for a long time.

Speaker 2 (30:44):
As much as you do that stuff, you ought to
just set up a rate chart and say, Okay, this
is what it cost me to go through your gate,
this is what it cost me to turn your water
off and on and just rack up a bill.

Speaker 6 (30:55):
Man, Well, I do, and I've done it forever. I
do you know week leading? You know checks and security checks?
Is there a sure down on the road stage. And
I'm trying to slash that out of what I'm as
part of what I do, just because I'm I'm just
tired of doing it.

Speaker 2 (31:16):
I was just gonna say, yeah, you just don't want
to do it anymore. And that's certainly okay, man.

Speaker 6 (31:22):
Forty four years of doing it, I'm a little tired
of doing it.

Speaker 2 (31:26):
I don't blame you. Man, it's a.

Speaker 6 (31:29):
Little harder for me at my age. I guess that's
part of it. But anyway, y'all have a good one later.

Speaker 2 (31:37):
Go popa chrome man. It's always a pleasure, Rick, Thanks
buddy Audio. Okay, let me see if I can't know.
I can't see my call screen either yet. Maybe this
will bring it up. Okay. The good news is my
computer's restarted. The bad news is it's that's that's all
I got. Isn't this fun? I love it? Seven one
three two one two five seven ninety. I had a

(31:58):
good day yesterday, by the way, such a good day.
You couldn't have slapped the happy off my face yesterday
it really went well. It did, and I was so
glad it did. Anyway, the Fishing Show, This will make
you happy. The Fishing Show. It's gonna be a drizzly day,
which means there's gonna be a pretty good crowd down there.
Probably if it was pouring down rain, that might slow

(32:18):
them down. Not Drizzle's not gonna slow down any fishermen
within one hundred miles and they will come in and
see that show from one hundred miles away or more.
As Faux Pro and his buddy did yesterday. I put
a little Facebook post on there with what they brought
me and made sure that Brian and Sean who were

(32:38):
I was supposed to tell them I had them, but
I didn't because I think they'd already left. I didn't
really go looking for him. I was gonna eat both
those sausage biscuits myself no matter what.

Speaker 12 (32:50):
So anyway, we are Sportstock seven nineties, Houston Sports Where
you go with iHeartRadio now now get more Doug.

Speaker 2 (33:02):
Porch Talk seven nineties, The Doug Pike Show. Thanks for listening,
but we do appreciate it. Put Forrest right through Man,
bring him on Forest? You there, fro pro third times
of Charmall, Oh I'm still I'm on try number nineteen
here in my in my abode. What's up? Oh Man?

Speaker 9 (33:22):
Not much, just out here turning the lights off, ially
getting getting the coffee in me this morning?

Speaker 2 (33:27):
Oh boy, how was the show?

Speaker 1 (33:28):
Man?

Speaker 2 (33:29):
You enjoy it? Well?

Speaker 9 (33:31):
I always enjoy the show, sure, and I always don't
enjoy the show. I'll preface that by saying, you know,
we got you know, big lakes that make national attention here,
like Conroe Ravern and stuff like that. Sure, but we
just never seemed to have the fresh water representation at
the shows like I'd like to see it so heavily saltwater.

(33:52):
I know you love that, but I just hardly ever
see the fresh water stuff like i'd like to see,
or the fresh water.

Speaker 2 (34:00):
Seminars and stuff like that. That's been a trend probably
for the last twenty years of cost Yeah, for some
reason back in the day, say twenty thirty years ago,
in this show's fifty year history, like take the Boat
Show for example, back when I first started covering it,
when I was at the newspaper, there was about a

(34:22):
fifty to fifty mix of bass boats and bay boats yep.
And then it went to sixty forty Bay, then it
went to seventy thirty Bay, and then all of a
sudden you look around and there just aren't any bass
boats there. And I don't know why the manufacturers quit,
advertiser quit marketing their boats through the trade shows and

(34:43):
the consumer shows like that, but they did and kind
of write parallel with that is going to be all
the crank baits you might have liked to see instead
of instead of the salt plastics for the salt water guys.
But for some reason they're just not They're not participating anymore.
And I don't I don't understand it either, I really don't.

Speaker 9 (35:05):
I don't either, you know, especially with all the national
attention over here. You let cobbers just recently that, And
I don't know if it's a I don't know if
the people that run it are reaching out or people
are in no way don't people to reach out to them.
I don't know how the process works to get the
people in the door, you know.

Speaker 2 (35:19):
Well, yeah, Don Martindale took the show over from a
man named Dave Holder, who ran it for probably forty
of these fifty years, maybe a little bit more. He
passed away, and when he did, Don Martindale and his
wife Cindy took the reins and they don't have any
trouble filling up booth spaces. They don't do a whole

(35:41):
lot of solicitation for exhibitors, And if somebody wanted to
bring in more fresh water stuff, they would have to
make a call probably in the next month and go
ahead and reserve that space. Because the show fills up.
You could see it when you were there. I'm sure
it's full. There's no room for putting anybody else in there,

(36:03):
exact exactly, you know, And I usually go down there
knowing that.

Speaker 9 (36:06):
Yeah, but I'm looking for rod deals, real deals, apparel deals.
Always always buy a few shirts. I think Jonathan he
builds his old rods. So he was excited to see
the rod Blake guys out there. He bought a hundred
and eighty dollars rod Blake for like one hundred dollars,
like a flipping stick you're gonna build. So so you know,
there's always the eye candy for for for those that

(36:28):
you would like to go for that. There's always good
good about that so sure that does that doesn't hurt.

Speaker 2 (36:34):
But he went down the boat, didn't you?

Speaker 9 (36:37):
Uh see you see you already know see I have
to tell you, hey, getting my twenty dollars but anyway
almost almost my U but uh, yeah, I'm watching this.
Uh some of your listeners may follow MLF and B
A S S and yeah, I'm watching the MLS down
on Harris Chain in Florida and a little bit of
controversy this morning and last night. I follow guy in

(37:01):
Keith Poschef after they're talking about him right now, I
follow guy really good fishman that Keith Poschet, just a
good old board type dude, kind of like us fish
as old school but but he's been on some pretty
good fish down there. And this other boater I won't
name his name because as I don't know what I show,
A bunk has come by there and seen Keith pose
catch all these fish.

Speaker 2 (37:21):
Well.

Speaker 9 (37:21):
The second day, this guy's in Keith Pochet spot fishing.
And the night before Keith Pochet was in the top
five and they and they deemed him a camera for today.
Last night that they pulled the camera and put it
on the guy that poached his spot and he was
he was posting on media. I'll sent it to you
on a message later. But he was pretty pissed about

(37:44):
this guy poaching the spot. And then they gave the
other guy the camera. Oh, Keith Poche's fish.

Speaker 2 (37:50):
Little little drama down there, Yeah, a little bit. That's
a tough thing in competitive fishing. Man, You're on a
public lake and everybody can see you, and you can
see everybody you go looking for that? What what are
what is it? What? In in smaller tournaments for us,
let's say you you just say you decide you want
to fish a weekend tournament on whatever lake. What are

(38:10):
the rules about distance between friendly tournament friends?

Speaker 9 (38:17):
We try to say if there's two guys in the
same area, most guys you know up here that they
know everybody, they try to keep that.

Speaker 2 (38:26):
I'd say about one hundred yards. Yeah, that's exactly what
I was sayinging like that.

Speaker 9 (38:30):
But we had a tournament where me and the same
guy found the same fish. Back when Levson got low
and the seni beans came up where a rival raper
and as far as waits it was taking twenty plus
pounds to winter. Livson and I was on some frog fish,
and uh, you know, we we all took off the
same time, and uh, I got I got the spot
and nobody else is there. Well, he comes back up

(38:51):
in there about an hour later, throwing a buzzdate and
because hey, you know we were kind of friends. Yeah,
he goes, hey, man, you know, uh, you know I
found these fish the other day, so you know, you
get the other one looking for fish.

Speaker 2 (39:03):
I said, I'm already in here fishing. He goes, He goes,
He goes, what I'm going to fish in here too.

Speaker 9 (39:07):
We got a guy to get after and at one
of his cast kid you not his buzz date hit
my tro motor chef cover by. I said me, you
have words at the way and I ended up beating
the quick. Quick end of that story is when I
came in. He had eighteen pounds when we got in,
which is normally good on the libs. Yeah, I had

(39:29):
that with my first three fish. I said, you want
me to last too, or you just want to go
home now?

Speaker 2 (39:33):
Well, he was pissed.

Speaker 9 (39:35):
I've had twenty twenty five point six is a heavy strainer.

Speaker 2 (39:38):
I ever wait on this lake in the tournament, salty man,
that really is pro softy, Holy, we're good for you.
Folk bro. All right, man, thanks, I'm oh, I'm about to.
I'm about to. I'm about to fire up some more
that sausage raft.

Speaker 9 (39:51):
Now we speak with a little with a little scrambled
eggs and it's some cheddar cheese that's killing.

Speaker 2 (39:56):
All right, man, I'll see to talk to you. Who
mercy says alive. Ah, I got maybe a minute and
that's about it. Huh. I did run into Mark Nichols,
a guy who teed up doa lures so many years ago.
He's from here if you didn't know it, and he's
out there. He is one of the saltiest, crustiest guys

(40:18):
you'll find in there. And he and dogg It I
think are closer in age than I am to his age.
But that guy, I guarantee I wouldn't want to fish
against him in a tournament down there in Florida or
anywhere else. Really, he's a grinder and he knows what
he's doing. And there's a little lure he makes called
a pet. And I can't tell you how many times

(40:40):
I've heard people recently even talking about trying. They'd love
to fish top waters for trout right now, but there's
just too much grass where they're going. Oh, there's just
too much floating grass. Can't get around it. There's no
lure we can drag through that stuff. Well kind of, yeah,
there is. And go ask Mark if you get out
to the show today, go far Mark Nichols a big

(41:01):
old doa flag up over his booth, I think, or
maybe a big banner behind it. Whatever. Got gray bearded
kind of guy, And uh, he just looks like somebody
who's been fishing really hard all his life. And he has,
and he's learned an awful lot in that little lure.
I still have a couple of dozen of them at
the house, and I'm I'm very protective of them because

(41:23):
not only have I caught really good trout out of
places where it was hard to fish anything else, but
I've also caught a bunch of bass on those things too.
You can drag them like a frog that you fish
them almost exactly like you would a frog. And oh
my gosh, that of all the lures I looked at
in there, that in some of the new Actually there's

(41:45):
some of the new mirror stuff I like too. If
you want to swing by Mike Herring's place over there.
Mainstream marketing, right across the hall. Right across the aisle
from Fishing Tackle Unlimited. You'll see a big old box
of mirror lures on the on the table there, sample
colors and whatnot. And just go talk to them about
what's new for mer Alarve, because there's a lot of
good stuff in that arena as well. We're gonna take

(42:07):
this break at the top of the hour. When we
get back, we will continue talking about fishing. I'm gonna
bring up white bass. I should have done that while
Fauxpro was on the line. He knows a little bit
about them. I'm gonna read to you, not read literally,
but give you a summary of what the Parks and
Wildlife Department published just this week, day before Valentine's Day,

(42:28):
about the white bass run in Texas this spring.

Speaker 1 (42:33):
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Speaker 2 (42:42):
Now here's Doug Pike. All right, here we go. Second
hour starts. Now, thank you all for listening. I certainly
do appreciate it. I am man. I'm getting warm on
this thing, Melvin, I'm getting warm. The good news is
I got the cameras working in here. The bad news
is the only camera I have working is the one
that's looking at me. So we gotta figure this out.

(43:04):
We'll do that in another break. It's not a big deal. Look,
get to these white bass. I'm gonna get out the
official Parks and Wildlife Department Texas Parks and Wildlife Department
news release from the day before Valentine's Day, and we
and faux pro could have told us all the same thing,
but this one goes into a little more detail from

(43:26):
some places a little farther outside of where he is,
so I'll just go with it. It leads heavy rainfall.
Excuse me, backward, heavy fall rain flip. Those words will
mean anglers. Oh man, I don't even want to get
into the the editor part of me looking at how

(43:48):
I would have rewritten it. Heavy fall rain will mean
anglers in East Texas should enjoy prime white bass fishing
this spring. Blah blah blah, blah blah blah. Each spring,
white bass run ups stream from reservoirs into rivers and
creeks to spawn, creating prime fishing opportunities for new and
seasoned anglers. White bass can be targeted from the bank

(44:11):
motorized boat or paddle craft in multiple publicly accessible locations
throughout the state. That's a fact, no doubt about it.
There are a lot of places you can go fish
for white bass where you may not even realize it.
There is a great, a great book that I recommended
my buddy to my buddy Greg Burlocker yesterday that I

(44:32):
can't remember the man's name who wrote it. I've got
a copy on my desk. I may bring it back
after the next break and give you. I think McConnell
is his last name. It's fly Fishing Houston, I believe,
is the title of it. And inside that book, and
bear in mind, if you can fly fish it, you
can fish it with conventional gear too. And that's what

(44:53):
I would be doing if I was going to try
to go to some of these places. But there, I
bet you there's at least a half a dozen places
relatively close to Houston and within the when within the
greater metropolitan Houston area, these places, a lot of them
are just right around the corner from big developments, big neighborhoods,
and the people who live in those neighborhoods a lot

(45:16):
of them probably wake up before dawn and drive an
hour and a half two hours to go white bass
fishing when they could do it in their own backyard
if they just realized it. Some of these natural creeks
that flow on down to the Gulf of Mexico and
become bigger and bigger flowing bodies of water as they
get there support good populations of white bass. It's just

(45:40):
that a whole lot of people don't know about them
because there's more attention paid to the parts that get
the the news coverage. Nature's River and Kickapoo Creek above
Lake Palestine offer more prime spots for white bass in
East Texas. Uh He said. The Sabine River above Taleda
Ben Reservoir is the top fish. It says here, I'm

(46:03):
looking for more names, names of places. Lake Houston shows
promise with good reports coming out of Peach Caney and
Spring Creeks. It just goes on and on about favorable
winter and spring rain have put the water levels at
a place where those spawning white bass that rely on

(46:27):
going up the creeks to spawn. I'm trying to think of. No,
it's not really like red fish. They release their eggs offshore,
then they're carried in shore These fish are kind of
like salmon. They go way up in the creeks to spawn,
and if you can find the right spot, you can
sit in one spot all day long and catch them,

(46:47):
just catch them till your fingers bleed from taking them
off the hook.

Speaker 13 (46:51):
Central Texas, it says here Hill Country South Texas could
be hit and miss because some of the rivers and
reservoirs in those regions have had water levels and low flows.

Speaker 2 (47:02):
However, it says if it'll start raining and start raining soon,
all of that could change and they could even get better.
These fish are gonna spawn, there's no question about that.
They're gonna spawn, and when they do, if you're in
the area where they're congregating to make sure that the
eggs and all of that good stuff meets up together,

(47:26):
then you're gonna catch a lot of fish. And they're
very tasty fish. There's no question about it. It's not
a bad fish at all to eat, and especially since nobody,
well almost nobody eats largemouth fast anymore, the little white
bass is a good thing. He's not quite a crappy,
but he's a good eating fish. There's no question about it.
The brasses for river Fuller's Folly River Ranch whatever wherever

(47:48):
that is, Sandy Bottoms River Company, these are places that
are in the r ac A program, and I suspect
that means I'm not sure exactly how to define that
or how to explain that acronym, but I think the
first two are recreational access, That's what I guess. Those
are places where you and I and anybody else can

(48:11):
go and might be fishing alongside a lot of friends
when the run is on, but nonetheless you keep chunking,
you keep winding, and you're probably going to catch some
That's those two places that Fuller's Foley River Ranch and
Sandy Bottoms River Company accessible locations on the Nature's River,
the land. There's all kinds of stuff at this release,

(48:32):
So no matter where you're going in Texas, you could
probably find some place really good to go catch these
white best. The daily limit for them, by the way,
as I mentioned last week, twenty five. You can keep
twenty five of them, so long as they're all greater
in length than ten inches, which is it seems like

(48:54):
a kind of a short minimum link limit for a fish.
But they don't get two to two much bigger fourteen
inch white bass would be a pretty significant one. So
get your catch yourself ten or so maybe, and go home,
cook them up, and then give yourself an excuse to
go fishing again. That's the way I look at these

(49:16):
these liberal limits. What those limits do is is give
you the opportunity to catch a whole lot of fish,
and then, since you still have fish in the freezer
for a while, you just keep going back for those
little bags of filets instead of going fishing again, when
the real fun would be in going fishing again. Wow
on earth? Would you? Whoy on earth? Would you not

(49:37):
go fishing? The only thing, Like I've laughed about it before,
the only thing that keeps me off the water is lightning.
I'm good if it's cold, I'm still pretty good now.
I'll I'll draw the line at some point, But I
haven't even come close to drawing a line on not
going fishing because it was too cold in a very
long time. We don't ice fish down here. I don't

(49:58):
want to ice fish. I had opportunities while I was
at the paper. A lot of these big tackle companies
and tackle reps from up north were inviting some of
us from down here to come up and experience ice fishing,
and I just you know, I've got a choice. I
can get on an airplane. I can fly to some
place where when I get off the airplane and walk outside,

(50:21):
it's going to be zero. I can get in a truck,
and I can be driven out onto the middle of
a frozen lake and sit in a little port a
potty and fish through the hole and see if I
can with a with a rod that's three feet long
and no bigger around than pencil lead, and a reel

(50:43):
that I could I could smuggle in a shirt pocket.
Or I can get in my vehicle. At that time
it would have been my truck, my f one fifty.
I can get my truck, and I can drive south
to the coast, starting about Matta Gorda, even when Galveston
was having trouble with winter trout. I could start at Matagorda,

(51:07):
or go anywhere else longer farther down the coast, just
till I got tired of driving and getting a boat
and on beyond melted water, melted ice, and maybe have
an I have plenty of ice on board in the
ice chest. That's as close as I want to get.
The ice fishing spoken like a true Southerner, you know. Yeah,

(51:27):
that's what That's what I am. I was born and
raised here in Houston. I am a true Southerner, Okay.
And I if I lived up there, if I if
I'd been born up there, I would have been the
first guy on the ice when it was safe to
get out, because I like fishing that much. But when
I have an option to go sit over a hole
in the ice and just stare down into the hole.

(51:47):
And now they got the electronics where you can watch it, it's
they got the same same I guess, downward looking, So
now you don't have to have it looking out in
front of you in a sitting over an ice hole,
staring waiting for a walleye to come along. I might
as well just take an ambient go to sleep, take

(52:08):
a nap. You guys, call me, Call me when call
me when a twenty eight inch speckled trout swims by
underneath that ice. Then I'll wake up. Holy cow, uh oh,
I can. I got the screen up and everything. Let's
let's get my kid before I go to the break
real quick. Mike, what's up, buddy, Hey kid?

Speaker 14 (52:26):
How you doing?

Speaker 2 (52:27):
You know, I'm just laughing inside about never having been
ice fishing and being so content with that. I have
no problem with that.

Speaker 14 (52:36):
I'm on your sixth about that, brother.

Speaker 6 (52:39):
All right.

Speaker 14 (52:40):
I had to come in from the garage. I'm doing
some PM on my twenty and thirty year old fishing rides.
Oh my word, I got them laid out across a
couple of cross horses, tall horses.

Speaker 2 (52:55):
Yeah.

Speaker 14 (52:56):
I've been using some of that clear fingernail polish around
the islets. Okay, the fumes are gotten to me, so
I had to come inside.

Speaker 2 (53:06):
And and and sober up.

Speaker 4 (53:09):
Yeah.

Speaker 9 (53:09):
Yeah.

Speaker 14 (53:10):
Did you see that article in the chronicle about that
poacher getting caught? Which one the guy in the uh
in the makeshift porter partty?

Speaker 2 (53:21):
Oh yeah, shooting deer out of a porter party.

Speaker 14 (53:25):
I thought I would crack up about that. I hope
they throw him in the can for that.

Speaker 2 (53:30):
Oh if we did in in us without a little
rim shot, I'm telling you, well done, well done.

Speaker 5 (53:37):
Man.

Speaker 2 (53:38):
Yeah, I did see that. That's just so messed up.
You know, it's actually not a horrible idea. If you could,
if you could get those things and sanitize them and
paint them with camo and and they'd be very easily portable,
and with just a little bit of imagination and work,
you could insulate the thing where it wouldn't be cold
to sit inside. But that's a pretty small space. That'd

(53:59):
be like hunting out of phone booze.

Speaker 14 (54:01):
Yeah, if that guy's got a cheat to do it,
that's not a good deal.

Speaker 2 (54:06):
Isn't that? The truth came into that man? Thank you, Mike,
Talk to you lady?

Speaker 4 (54:10):
All right?

Speaker 2 (54:10):
Prter, Yes, sir, audios Okay, you got that tall? Okay,
that's good. Oh gosh, yeah, we do need to go
to break. Let's go to the break, shall we hunting
out of a porta can? I'm kind of curious. I'm
thinking about other things that could be used as makeshift blinds.
I'll think about that during the break and maybe have
an idea when we get back.

Speaker 8 (54:32):
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Speaker 2 (54:37):
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Conversation continues this as the Doug Pipe Show.

Speaker 2 (54:44):
One on Sports Talk seven ninety. Have you been paying
attention to the music? Have you been keeping up with
the theme that Melvin put together today? And I know
what it is and if you do, you'll understand why
he chose it and that's all I'm gonna tell you.
Otherwise you're gonna you're on your own to win that

(55:05):
basket full of goodies. And I don't know if faux
Pros tried any of his yet he picked up his
basket yesterday. He may or may not have, but he
needs to there. There's gonna be at least one of
them in his in his basket of four delicious jams, jellies,
and sauces from Brezlis River provisions one that will pair

(55:26):
well with that sausage cheese cooking. I guarantee you. And
if I think he's a spicy guy, I think he
can handle the spicy stuff. And if he can, I'd
start with whatever sounds the most spicy, and I bet
he'll we'll get a good review. I wouldn't be surprised
at all. Some one three two, one two five seven
ninety email me. Doug pick at aiheartmedia dot Com says

(55:48):
good morning. John says, good morning. I'm listening to your show.
Heard the segment with Rick the real estate broker. That's
that's kind of like, yeah, that's a good nickname for Rick,
Rick the real estate man. The real estate broker mentioned
part of search Officer chech properties, Oh boy, let me

(56:08):
see this might be something that's gonna I'm gonna get
in the wheeze. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I'll I'll
respond to you John later for your idea and what
you were looking for.

Speaker 4 (56:18):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (56:18):
But yeah, that's good. That's a good one. Mojo says, Hello,
I wonder why got this. I can't imagine. There's a
there's a a site or an app called Simplify, and
it just has it's all these little ideas and I

(56:39):
have to laugh because it says deep clutter your closet
the right way. That missed being a really good statement
for me, just by one word, now, didn't they. Rudy, Yeah,
I'm with you, Rudy. Rudy says he went to the
fishing show for thirty plus years. Good for him, hadn't
been in a while. It is it. It's going to

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be crowded to day, so just make your plans accordingly.
Bring a little hand sanitizer if you're If you're susceptible
easily to things, you might want to go ahead and
even wear a mask about like back in the old days.
May or may not help a lot, but it couldn't
hurt just make sure you get out of their hole
and don't get yourself sick. I honestly didn't have any trouble,

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and I was comfortable navigating my way through there the
other day, and I think I got one more good
day in me. I don't I don't linger around big crowds.
I just at my age, I don't want to take
a chance. I'm kind of like Rudy. But man, oh man,
once you get in there and start talking and start
looking and start seeing and listening, you'll you'll be more

(57:46):
more focused on the fishing gear in there and the
benefit you can get from hearing about that, and you
will be on anything else. Seven one three two one
two five seven ninety Email me Doug Pike at iHeartMedia
dot com. What hold on, I've got to get this
off my screen up here real quick so I can
see my my phone, my phone thing as they say,

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that's off, that's off, No go away, all right, This
is just push up Tim if I would, if I could,
Thanks Tim. There we go. Hey, how you doing, man?

Speaker 10 (58:20):
Hey, good duck?

Speaker 6 (58:21):
How's it going?

Speaker 2 (58:22):
Yeah? I'm playing I'm being my own it guy in here,
and I'm not qualified to operate this machinery. Now I
got it up here. What's going on?

Speaker 10 (58:32):
No, don't come down south for quite bast In the
Oasis River you can barely get your ankles wet. What
lub river has no water hardly in it?

Speaker 11 (58:44):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (58:44):
I know.

Speaker 10 (58:46):
I want to tell you one thing that I gave
my friends up in Brazoria County for a duck blind
and we sunk them out in the marsh or the
IBC containers.

Speaker 6 (58:58):
You know what I'm talking about?

Speaker 2 (58:59):
I think I do. Yeah, explain you.

Speaker 10 (59:04):
Know the big plastic ones that come in the lemonum
cage mm hmmm, and just you know, cut the top
of them off, camouflage them up, cut them up there
in the marsh and it's a great little two men blind.

Speaker 2 (59:18):
Wow. Yeah, I hadn't thought about that.

Speaker 10 (59:21):
And I mean, you know you your dry is was
main thing.

Speaker 2 (59:26):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 5 (59:26):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (59:27):
I like being dry, I really do. I don't like
surprises on duck hunts. Now, how do you cover it
to keep it dry when you're not in it?

Speaker 6 (59:35):
Save the top?

Speaker 11 (59:36):
Yeah, you just cut it out, cut it.

Speaker 10 (59:38):
Out with a salshle saves the top, put it back.

Speaker 2 (59:41):
On it, yeah, and just leave it.

Speaker 4 (59:43):
Do you do?

Speaker 2 (59:44):
You put the top on every time you use it. Yes, yeah,
that makes sense. Did you hint? You know what you
should have done? And maybe you did? You hinge it?
Think about that?

Speaker 6 (59:53):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (59:54):
Oh okay, So essentially what you have to do you
have to do is you have to camouflage the inside
side of the top and the outside. Well yeah, yeah,
you have to camouflage the inside because when you open
it up, then that back of the of the blind
will be camouflaged. That makes sense.

Speaker 10 (01:00:11):
I mean, you know it's it's it's it's pretty cheap,
but it's a you know, it is a good dry
place and then plus you know you can use the
aluminum stuff, you know, clean your boots wait whatever offic
you're climbing in.

Speaker 2 (01:00:28):
Yeah, you know what it is. It's two things. It's
affordable and it's functional and I like that a couple
of skins. Are you using spray paint? That that metal
frame that's around those things? Is it such that you
could interweave like cane and stuff in there?

Speaker 10 (01:00:45):
Yes, any kind of netting you want to use, you
can just beat.

Speaker 15 (01:00:52):
It through there.

Speaker 2 (01:00:53):
Holy ca. So you need you need the container, You
need a big, big pile of little zip ties, and
then you need to go, cut some cane and you're
good to go.

Speaker 10 (01:01:05):
Well, you know, especially as as many in your area.
Those IBC containers that are just around everywhere you could,
they're affordable.

Speaker 5 (01:01:16):
Put in the you pick up.

Speaker 2 (01:01:18):
I like that a lot, man, that's pretty cool. Little
two man duck line. And if you get two of them,
you can just put a little cut out between them
and make it a four man out line.

Speaker 4 (01:01:27):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:01:27):
I like that a lot, Thanks man, I appreciate that.

Speaker 10 (01:01:30):
All right, see you got it?

Speaker 2 (01:01:32):
Audios, All right, let me click her down. I can't
make them go away. There we go. That's fine. A
twenty eight. It is on Sports Talk seven ninety The
Dog Pike Show seven one three two one two five
seven nine day. I always appreciate the calls. I always
appreciate the ideas, as does the rest of this audience.
I guarantee there's somebody going That guy's onto something. Those

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little white plastic containers that A lot where I seem
used is by people who own pressure washing companies and
are playing by the rules and not just using hose
water and stuff like that and dropping water pressures. They
bring their own water, and I think they're supposed to
take it away. Too. I don't know if they do that,

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But the bottom line is, man, that's not a bad idea.
It's a nice, comfy, dry blind. I'm all for that.
Now We've got to do is get our ducks back right.
One of the toughest duck seasons overall. I kept hearing
little glimmers of activity and places where it'd be really
pretty good for a couple of days. But it didn't last.

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It didn't last on any part of this prairie really
that I know of the Gulf Coast up here, the
upper Gulf Coast region, and I don't know. I can't
really put a finger on white. It didn't get super
cold until late and we had but we had enough

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wool fronts that we should have gotten those birds. And
I keep going back to, I keep going back to
losing them to development here, changes in agriculture here, and
then the pampering of those birds all the way back
up the Flyway, darn near to Michigan. All the way

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up the Flyway, there's open water being maintained for them.
There are farmers who are cutting half their crop and
plowing the other half and leaving all that food, and
it just makes it a lot easier on the ducks
and geese than having to try to fly all the
way down here. If you can only fly halfway down
the flyway and still find someplace to winter comfortably, why

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would you make the rest of the trip. Yeah, we
did this year. That was for geese. They were mostly
geese affected by that. It wasn't anywhere near as bad
as the avy and cholera outbreak back when I was
guiding that it just wiped out some really big flocks
of geese. This was less widespread and it was well.

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One of the reasons it wasn't as bad as back
then is because we only have about ten percent of
the same number of snow geese, ten percent of the
number that when I was guiding we had on that prairie.
That's what we get now in snow geese, and there
were no I think it's been like seven or eight
years since the official count done by the Parks and
Wildlife Department where they're doing it from an airplane and

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they kind of it's it's not exact science, but nonetheless
they didn't count a single Canada goose. And I think
that's been six to eight, maybe even ten years running.
Now that they've seen no Canadas down here in their
annual flyover surveys. We got to take a little break here.
We'll come back to fishing when we get back.

Speaker 8 (01:04:49):
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Speaker 2 (01:04:57):
Thirty six on Sports Talk seven ninety The Doug Pike Show.
Thanks for listening. Certainly do appreciate it. Sending out an
email real quick to a guy who's got something going
on that I wasn't aware of until I got into
the show. My buddy Everett from Texas Saltwater Fishing Magazine
told me I needed to go talk to this guy
about something he was doing for veterans around here. And

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my ears perked up immediately that they really did, and
I walked right over to the guy's booth. I actually
I couldn't remember I knew, I knew what he did.
It's the guy who's in the line Cutters line Cutters booth.
They've got a big probably ten by twenty, maybe a
little bit more than that space in there, might even

(01:05:41):
be twenty by twenty. It's a big space, and if
you find it, it's right kind of in the middle
of the whole thing. There's a lot of green and black.
Those are his two primary theme colors of his brand line,
Cutters go let. It's a simple little tool he makes,
that cuts line, and he'll hear anybody there demo that
thing for you. But that's not and it's a great product,

(01:06:03):
by the way, but that's not what I want to
talk about with him. So what I found out is
at Lance for personal reasons, and he may share them
worth he may not. But the bottom line is he
has decided he is going to create for a specific purpose.
He's taken an old military vehicle and he is going

(01:06:24):
to convert it into a first class, state of the
art rolling beach shark fishing vehicle. And he's starting here.
He's not halfway around the world. He's right close by,
and he is going to use that vehicle to host

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members of our military who have come back and for
whatever reasons, need a little diversion from the craziness they
experienced in combat. And what he's going to do is
invite veterans to come down there and just spend a
day or evening or overnight or whatever. I don't know

(01:07:08):
what his hours are going to be on this thing,
or how often he's gonna get to do it, but
he's gonna take them shark fishing and let them experience
the full Deal's gonna be a big fighting chair set
up in the back of this thing. It's a pretty
elaborate design, and he could tell you about it. His
name's Vance. Is a horseky, Vance is a horsekey and

(01:07:33):
just look for line cutters. Go in there. Tell him.
I said hello, Tell him. I told you to ask
about what he's doing with that shark buggy. I don't
know what he's calling it. That's what I'm calling it,
and hopefully we can drum up a little more attention
for that thing even than I am right here. But
if you do get down there, and you do, he's
a pretty tall fella. And if he's not in the booth,

(01:07:56):
ask for him. His name is Vance v A ncee.
Just say where's Vance. Doug Pike told me I need
to talk to him about something for veterans and then
just try to get involved. Maybe I told him as
soon as I heard about the program, I said, I'm
all in. Just tell me what you need me to
do to help you promote this thing, and I'll do it.
I don't know if I'm tough enough to fish all

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night for sharks, although I might just drive down there
and kind of hang out with them for as long
as I can stay awake. Anyway, that'd be fun. I
haven't done that in a very long time. That's something
else this state has to offer that doesn't get doesn't
get too much attention. But the way it's done now
is a lot easier. Back when I was doing this,

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I and my crazy fishing friends, we would either have
to paddle our baits out on surfboards. You've got the
Upper Texas coast is so shallow, it's very difficult to
do this without getting a bait way out there, even overnight.
Your odds are better the farther out you can get
that bait. So you have to use big reels and

(01:08:59):
put a lot of line on them and get those
baits out at least a couple of hundred yards, and
so you're starting with that much line to reel in
the first place, and then it just gets worse and
worse depending on how big the shark gets, or more
fun and more fun depending how young and strong you are. Now,
fast forward to twenty twenty four and the last few

(01:09:20):
years including them and you just take your baits out
on a drone. You just hook it underneath the drone.
There's a little remote control switch. As long as you've
got control of that drone, you take it out as
far as you want to, and you push a little
button in that bait false kapouche right there in the
Gulf of Mexico and it just sits out there on

(01:09:42):
the bottom until a big old shark comes by and
grabs it. And there have been some big sharks caught
along the Texas coast, make no mistake about that. Down south,
it's a little bit easier, the water gets deeper faster,
but the same availability is there. It's up here that
you can catch those big sharks. You just have to

(01:10:03):
be a little bit more patient, and you don't have
to go that far either. If he ever makes a
trip down to North Padre Island Seashore, that's one I'd make.
I'd got my son is his first ever shark on
a trip with Clibb Cliff Webb down that way years
ago and it was absolute blast and he knew that

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my son wanted to catch a show. We were fishing
the beach the whole time we were down there. And
he knew that my son wanted to catch a shark,
and I just told Cliff that, and he just went
into the back of his truck and grabbed some wire
leader and a little bit bigger hook than we'd been
using off any of the plugs we had, and he

(01:10:46):
threw a cast net over a few mullets. We put
a chunk of mullet out there into the second bar
on a kind of a heavy trout rod that I
had just for that purpose in case we got a
chance to do it. And we missed the first bite,
but what my son did, we were letting him do
the whole thing. The second bite, which came the first bike,

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came in five minutes. The second bike came five minutes
after that. Once we rebaited and it was on, and
he caught himself a shark that was maybe three feet long.
It wasn't one of those little teeny tiny baby once
you get up here off the surfside jetty sometimes, but
it was a legitimate shark for a kid who was
only about maybe nine ten years old, and he thought

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that was just the coolest thing in the world. And
he thought that was cool these guys in this buggy
that Vance is gonna have put together are gonna catch
way bigger sharks than that, And I'm so glad he's
doing that, because people who come back from combat halfway
around the world, takes them a long time, takes them

(01:11:51):
a long time to be comfortable doing what they were doing,
whatever that might have been before they had to go.
Anything they can do to take their minds off of that,
anything they can do to kind of regain their full
connection back where they came from. I'm all in for helping.

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Seven one three two one two five seven ninety. Email
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Speaker 2 (01:12:25):
Back to the Doug Pike Show. I want to go
back to the Caribbean. The Caribbean, the Caribbean. Which way
do you said, Melvin, I say Caribbean. I I've used
both in conversation. I still haven't. I haven't settled on one.
All I know is if I get another opportunity to

(01:12:45):
go anytime soon, bye bye, I'm with you. I'm gone.
I love it down there, and I've been all over
that thing. I've been a lot of places and a
lot of places many times, and not a not a
cull in a car load of them. Man, they're all
great fun places to go. Well, I'm going down there
to fish. Let's face it, I'm not going down there

(01:13:07):
to gamble. I'm not going down there to do anything
except fish most of the time, which puts me in
places where there are more locals. Typically. Then it's not
I don't go to touristy spots. I don't stay in
luxury hotels. I stay in fishing camps. And the people

(01:13:27):
I meet in those places I feel are more interesting
than the people I've met when I've gone to big
fancy resorts. It seems they're kind of all. I don't know.
The big fancy resorts, the people there are are trained
to be your friend, trained to be accommodating, trained to

(01:13:51):
cater to your every whim, And some of these people
in fish camps, well just look in the eyes that
I'm not doing that one over there. Yeah you need,
you need a bottle water. They're in that ice chest
over there, And I'm perfectly fine with that. I don't
need to be coddled. I don't need to be baby sad.
I'm down there to fish. You know, if they're telling

(01:14:13):
me to do something fishing wise, I'm gonna do it.
That's that's what I mean. I must have mentioned somehow
a little while ago. I must have said Gulf of Mexico,
because I'm getting blown up with emails reminding me that
it is henceforth throughout the land, and even Google says,
so the Gulf of America. WHOA, that's gonna be hard.

(01:14:34):
What No Golf of Mexico no more? Well, the half
that's in the south, they still call that the half
that's up here basically from I think maybe if you
just drew a line from a little way south of
Port Isabel to a little way south of Key West,
that's the Golf of Mexico. I mean, that's the Gulf
of America, and then the part that southern southern from

(01:14:56):
there is gonna be still I think, Gulf of Mexico.
That's how Google's doing it. And if it's if it's Google,
you know it must be true. Right. We're compromising, Yeah, yeah,
a little give and take, little give and take. But
I'm not opposed to that. I don't have a problem
with it. It'll just take me a long time to

(01:15:17):
break the habit. Ever since I've been able to speak.
I've been saying Gulf of Mexico and so but I
think I think Gulf of America has a nice ring
to it. I do. Just don't whoe me, man, I'm trying.
I'm trying. I could. I could quiz you right now
and in conversation, I could. I could manipulate the conversation

(01:15:39):
so that you would say the old name instead of
the new name. Well maybe not now that you're on
Now that you're on point, you know you you'd see
that quail a mile away. But yeah, anyway, seven one
three two one two five seven ninety Email me Doug
Pike at iHeartMedia dot com a little ways down the coast.
For those of you who are oyster lovers, you know

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that's something I've gotten away. I hadn't eat oysters in
a long time, but God, I used to just just
just knock them back as fast as I could get them.
You a big oyster eater or no, Yes, sir, DraCos,
I love those things, man, Oh yes, I really do. Now,
I'm I'm kind of a sissy. I'm gonna need a
little bit of sauce. I'm gonna need a cracker maybe
of course, but down the hatch man or just slide,

(01:16:25):
just slide them right out of the shell. Just throw
a little red sauce on that shell, on top of
that oyster, and just down the hatch, hot sauce, lemon juice. Dozens,
not just I wouldn't eat a dozen. I would eat
dozens fresh out of the Gulf of America right now.
The reason I bring that up is that oyster harvest

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is being reopened in Matta Gorda Bay. It's a little
it's a reef, I guess, for an area called t
X eighteen in Matta Gorda Bay gonna be open to
commercial and recreation harvest beginning at twelve oh one a m.
That's just because it's the first minute of the day.
It doesn't mean you have to be out there right

(01:17:09):
when it opens, although I bet the commercial boats will
be out there at about eleven just waiting to start
harvesting until twelve oh one. That's gonna kick off on Tuesday,
this coming Tuesday, the eighteenth of February. The release is
based on samples recently collected by TPWD. T X eighteen

(01:17:30):
meets criteria for reopening. These criteria include parameters for oysters
reaching certain thresholds based on the abundance of legal size
oysters three inches or greater. Bigger, Bigger is better with oysters. Man,
I don't those little half dollar sized ones. They're cute,

(01:17:54):
and if it's the only oysters you can get, I guess.
But man, I like a big old shell full of
oyster and just knock it back, it says here. A
map showing oyster harvesting areas, as well as the most
up to date status information on each area, can be
found on the Texas Department of State Health Services website.

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I don't know anybody right now. Years ago I could
have said I knew, I don't know, maybe eight or
ten people who harvested their own oysters lawfully in the
state of Texas. There were recreational oyster errs. But now
I don't think I could name one of them. Who's
doing that. You ever caught? You're not caught? Well, I've

(01:18:38):
snagged oysters accidentally when I'm fishing over reefs. You ever
gone and gotten your own oysters Melbourne only from the store, Well, yeah,
every time you got them. I guess you've got your
own oysters? Didn't You got them at the restaurant. I'll
take a dozen of those right or in the container now, Yeah.
I got a lot of guys who they'd go down
there and they would just bring a bucket and walk

(01:19:02):
the shallows when there were oysters just everywhere, especially like
in West Bay, and they get themselves a good five
gallon bucket full of them and then go home and
shuck them and see what they had. Just slurp them
down as you open them up. Man, Oh, Oyster's Rockefeller.
That's kind of I can. I could lean into a platter,
not a plate of Oyster's Rockefeller too. I like that

(01:19:24):
spinach and all you a fan of that? No? I
just like the char brawl. Oh yeah, okay, I could
do that, yeah, to eat them up a little bitious.
Have you had Oyster's rock Feller?

Speaker 9 (01:19:39):
No?

Speaker 2 (01:19:39):
I haven't, oh man, just sometime raw and Charboro. Okay,
Well that's that's a start, man. There's a couple of
other ways. Oyster poor boy, Oh my god, yep. Oh
now I want to go back over to New Orleans.
Half and half shrimp, half shrimp? Oh man?

Speaker 5 (01:19:57):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:19:57):
Okay, where where can we get a good one? Here
are the are the antones? Shrimp poor boys?

Speaker 6 (01:20:02):
Good.

Speaker 2 (01:20:04):
Ah, they're okay. But the way I judge that pop
boy is by the bread. You gotta have that French bread.
Gotta have the right bread, Gotta have the right bread.
And I think it actually needs to be a little
bit kind of sloppy, yes, to be a legitimate poor boy.
I mean I have. I'm half cajun so and and
I lived for four years as a young kid growing

(01:20:25):
up hungry. Every ten minutes, Uh my mom or my
dad would there was a sandwich place very close to
where we lived, legitimate New Orleans style sandwiches, even though
we were in Metay. And Buddy, I could put back
a full sized grown man's poor boy when I was
nine years old and still couldn't gain weight. I'm cured

(01:20:49):
of that though. Don't worry, right, I'm good. You don't
have to worry about that messing me up anymore. Holy mackerel,
Oh my gosh, we got to get out of here, right,
all right, let's take a break here. When't we get back,
we're gonna talk to Ellis Pickett, an old old friend
from my surfing days and a friend of Joe Doggets
as well, about a brand new Texas surf museum that

(01:21:13):
is way closer than the one down the coast.

Speaker 1 (01:21:18):
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Speaker 2 (01:21:27):
Now here's Doug Pike. Alright, nine o'clock hour starts right now.
We can't find Ellis. I don't know where he might
be in the traffic trying to get across the bridge.
I'm not really sure. I'm gonna send him a text
message real quick. Hold on, we are trying to call you.
Comma Ellis period, call us at seven one three two

(01:21:48):
one two five seven nine ozho period. I think that'll
get him. I hope it will. Oh yeah, that'll get him.
Fingers crossed. Huh. So I just hold Gulf of America
Golf of Mexico thing. I had several emails, and one
of them said, there's nothing if you if you pull
it up now, there's nothing in that space. It doesn't

(01:22:11):
name it anything. So I did a search. I did
a search for Golf of Mexico Google, and the first
big map that pops up calls it the Gulf of America.
The whole thing, not just half of it, the whole
dog gone thing. And it also it also showed a

(01:22:33):
story that, again, with AI out there, it's so hard
to tell what's real and what's not without doing more research.
And I didn't have time during the break, But all
of a sudden, there's a story about Mexico planning to
sue the United States over this name change idea. And

(01:22:53):
I don't know how far they could get with that.
I don't know in what quarter or what kind of
a what kind of a judgment could be handed down.
But I'm not opposed to it. I'm not I'm not
totally neutral. I kind of like the idea, but then again,

(01:23:13):
who knows. Let me let me try and get this
one up myself, Melvin, see if it works. Bobby there, Nope,
fix me up. Don't you just love technology?

Speaker 5 (01:23:25):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (01:23:25):
I got to put him back on hold. That's right,
stand by, he's on hold. Now there we go, and
here we go, Bobby.

Speaker 16 (01:23:32):
There, I got you, You got me?

Speaker 2 (01:23:36):
Now I have you. But I don't think my microphone
is working going out because I don't hear anything in
my headphones? Now, Melvin, how about that? Oh wait wait
wait wait yeah, maybe okay, now we got it. I
guess what's going on?

Speaker 16 (01:23:49):
Well, I have a question. I haven't been to the
fishing show in a long time. Where is there a parking?
It's at the NRG correct.

Speaker 2 (01:23:57):
Yeah, no, this is it? Is it Georgia are Brown Downtown?
Oh okay, that's yeah, there's parking. There's parking down there. Uh,
there's all those little satellite launchers still there. If you're lucky,
and you can get down there and drive around the
block a couple of times. Somebody might leave on one

(01:24:17):
of those little spots around the metered spots around the
park there. And if you if you're if you're a
high roller, you can just roll right into the garage.
But that's thirty bucks. Now, it's thirty bucks to park
in nothing.

Speaker 16 (01:24:31):
Oh and just like baseball games, it's the same that way.

Speaker 2 (01:24:34):
Oh my gosh. Yeah, yeah, you gotta tap into your
four oh one k to park your car.

Speaker 16 (01:24:42):
This weather shure run the crappee fishing.

Speaker 2 (01:24:45):
Oh man, are you getting a lot of runoff?

Speaker 16 (01:24:49):
Oh? I'm fishing turtle Baio and Lake Houston is just
muddier and conveying. For some reason, they just don't like
that fast moving water when they're letting it out.

Speaker 2 (01:25:01):
No, I understand that that would that would impact their
spawn tremendously, Really would I think?

Speaker 16 (01:25:06):
Yeah, Well, let me ask you the lake waters in
the earth excuse me, load of mid sixties. Shouldn't the
bass be moving into spawn?

Speaker 2 (01:25:18):
I would think?

Speaker 16 (01:25:18):
So, yeah, that's what I thought. Yeah, we haven't been
able to find them. I know the water's money, but
we just haven't been able to find it. Been the
second year in a row like this, said Lake Houston.
I don't know, because they did all the dredging up
there what, but boy, they sure run a lot of
good coffee fishing.

Speaker 2 (01:25:37):
Yeah, that's too bad. I hate to hear that. I
will say this about every year that I've been covering fishing.
Every year, everybody wants things to happen faster and earlier,
and and it just you just got to be patient.
We got to wait for the climate, the whole ecosystem
to flip over into full spring mode. And we always

(01:26:01):
start talking about it in February, and it never happens
until about March or early April. So just be patient.
We'll get them.

Speaker 16 (01:26:09):
I got I got plenty of patients. Because I'm retired,
as you, I can wait. It's time on one I
can go. But I just wanted to say I didn't
get to say I to Mel, but I guess he's
didn't pick up this morning.

Speaker 2 (01:26:24):
Just went straight to you. So well, I mean, yeah,
we're having a Yeah. I don't want to get into
the weeds on technical stuff right now, but we could
use an it guy. I could right now, we could
for sure.

Speaker 16 (01:26:37):
Man, Well that's not one of my fortees. I can't
even hardly dial telephone.

Speaker 2 (01:26:44):
Oh well, let me go catch go ahead, Okay, you
take care, we're getting thanks, Yeah, I'll see you later. Okay,
let me see Okay, Melvine's up to you. Man, I
can't do anything with them. Get Brian on for me, though,
Hey Brown, what's up? Man, Doug Pike, Brian traid Way,
what's happened? Fully aware who it is? I guarantee you man,

(01:27:05):
we got your full name up on the screen. I
know who it is. What's happened as the Fishing show?
And what's happened is I can't get Ellis on the
phone for some reason to tee up our conversation we
were supposed to have about the Texas Surf Museum.

Speaker 17 (01:27:19):
So I'm going into the Fishing show. But that's actually
what I wanted to call about and if you ever
get Ellis on the phone, and you'd probably be able
to put your input Because I grew up surfing too
sure our waves, and I'm always kind of curious to
know the old board shapers and those guys that all surf,
you know, between hims, like you knew the guys that

(01:27:40):
everybody probably had or had a friend that owned Fulbright
you know, if you knew the East of Hawaii guy.
Yeah it was Tom hill Quest, which was a real
cool guy. I mean, you know he he had he
was fast boards. But I'm always curious to know, like
what you've seen growing up and you've got about ten
years on me, and then what I saw, you know

(01:28:00):
growing up late eighties.

Speaker 2 (01:28:01):
Nineties, Yeah, yea, yeah, how has it changed?

Speaker 6 (01:28:04):
What is the one?

Speaker 17 (01:28:05):
Are the hot things is? I'm so out of the loop,
you know, well at the now.

Speaker 2 (01:28:10):
Yeah, I'm kind of out of it myself. Unfortunately, I
have it surfed in a while, and I would like
to get back into it, but it's it's a time issue,
is all it is. And uh, I grew up the
very first board I owned. I was barring boards and
renting boards and doing what I had to do until
I could get my own. Was a little I mean

(01:28:32):
like little bitty like five four twin fin. It was
a potato chip man. And I was a lot lighter
than I am now and a lot stronger and had
a lot more endurance, and so I could just paddle
that little thing all over the place and I could
I could catch a lot of that. I did a
lot of surfing around the surf side pier uh down

(01:28:55):
there at the surf side Jetty, and that thing was
really fun on days when it was kind of those
little pier peaks that you would get where you get
a bottom tur a big bottom turn, big big drop in,
big bottom turn, and then maybe bounce off one time
and you're done. There were sloppy waves is all we

(01:29:15):
you know, just it's a just mushy, weird surf that
we get here most of the time. Within it. As
I grew up, the next board I bought was a
city I actually bought, do you remember Hollow Wave or
wave Hollow. That was a composite board that was it
was like a honeycomb inside it wasn't foam. It was

(01:29:37):
a honeycomb of whatever they made it from, with an
outer layer an upper layer and a bottom layer that
were fused with epoxy around the edges, and then it
actually had a little a little hex's nut in the
top in the front that if it did leak a
little bit, you could open that thing up when you

(01:29:57):
finished your round out there and get the wall out
of it. Uh. And those things were they were bulletproof, man.
You couldn't ding them with a hammer. And I used that.
I used that around the jetties because we used to like,
I mean around the pier because we used to like
to shoot that pier. And you know, I bounced off
a couple of pilings myself. But anybody who took a

(01:30:19):
pham board through there and missed was gonna end up
either with a broken or at least badly dinged surfboard
had that. There was a guy in high school, a
guy named Bruce Babbitt who built surfboards, and he was
kind of a cool dude. I'm trying to think, oh, Henry,
Henry fry fryboards. I still got a fry board, and yeah,

(01:30:44):
they're great. They were great, man. It's a minds. I
think I want to say it's about nine foot something
like that. First really true longboard that I bought. I
had a six six for a while that when they
you remember when they moved the surfside jetty, moved it
about a hundred yard or not hundred but about fifty
yards more back to the east, and there was that

(01:31:05):
nice little shelf sitting over there, and man, on a
big east swell it would go and bounce off the
Quintana jetty and then come back across in the channel
and line up for some of the best and biggest
waves I ever served around here. If you knew, hadn't
you remember that?

Speaker 17 (01:31:23):
Yeh, I surfed the channel, the surf side channel. Yeah, dog,
EM's out there taking pictures. And it was we joked
because you know, if you got on a wave and
there was only three guys on it, you were like, hey,
you were winning.

Speaker 2 (01:31:37):
Really really man, Oh my gosh. Yeah, but boy, some
of that stuff was just so good. And at very
first people didn't know where how they didn't wear booties.
And the bathroom I remember the bathroom down there at
the base of the jetty. When these guys they you know,
you'd ride a wave almost all the way into where

(01:31:58):
the swing sets and the playground were. But it was
nothing but oyster shells on the bottom, and you'd get
in barnacles on the rocks, and these guys would be
so cut up it looked like there was just a
constant knife fight going on down there. You had to
wear booties to surf it. Yeah, what was vibrio?

Speaker 5 (01:32:17):
No?

Speaker 2 (01:32:18):
I don't you know. You may make a good point.
I don't recall anybody talking about vibrio back then. Holy cow.
But they were sliced up, buddy, man.

Speaker 17 (01:32:28):
I've served my shirt hurricanes, you know. Yeah, the wash
you can't see any of the water.

Speaker 2 (01:32:34):
I know, I tied them.

Speaker 17 (01:32:34):
I hit a drum one time with my hand and
I ran my hand down the whole side of it,
and it was a big one, and I was like,
that was scary.

Speaker 2 (01:32:44):
I was sitting out there one day on a not
big day. It was kind of a small day, just
kind of clean waves, but just that dirty, muddy water,
like you say, you can't see anything, And I'm straddling
my board and something swam between my legs and was
touching boat both legs and I gotta get out of here, man.

(01:33:04):
I just when when I couldn't feel anything on my
legs anymore, I just eased my legs back up behind
me on to the board, and I paddled with my
fingertips all the way to the beach and just sat
there for about twenty minutes. I had no to this day,
I don't know what that was, man.

Speaker 17 (01:33:21):
So name your favorite local surf shops for the listeners
that are listening, you know all that our surf shop
that we ran to, and one of the big ones
just relocated that had been around for the longest time
over on the north side, which was Surf House.

Speaker 2 (01:33:34):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, that was a fun place to go.

Speaker 17 (01:33:37):
That was you know, Lloyd and Carrol Ransom and now
it's now it's over in.

Speaker 2 (01:33:41):
The heights, okay.

Speaker 17 (01:33:42):
And so also on that side there was you know,
Shelley Surf and Skate Shop, which is kind of back
in that area. Yeah, Coast of Brava was was a
big one. If you ever got down to Rockport, you
went to Report of Ransas, you went to Pat McGee's.

Speaker 2 (01:33:56):
Because, oh, for sure, yeah I did. And you couldn't
wait to get a bumpers. You had to get a
bumper sticker too, to bring it back to you could
tell everybody you'd been there. You know. That was cool. God,
you know, honestly, they've slipped out of my memory. Now,
there was. I was in every one of them at

(01:34:17):
one point or another because I was just nuts for surfing.
I really was. But I I'm drawing a blank. Or yeah,
I'm drawing a blank, Brian, I really am. Thank it.
I'm sorry about that. But you yeah, you caught. Yeah,
they were all there and all of our buddies. If
you grew up surfing Texas and you could surf anywhere

(01:34:39):
because anywhere you went, the waves were going to be
better than what we learned on you know, And God,
I love that. I loved going to the East coast.
That short breakover on the east coast of Florida is
that was just when it got a little bit big.
It was rough man because it would just slap you
down into about a foot of water if you if
you came off the board, you were gonna get hammered.

(01:35:00):
That was fun.

Speaker 17 (01:35:01):
And you know, you've got your surf guy that's supposed
to call your guy allis Have you been to the
surfs in done Corpus CHRISTI.

Speaker 2 (01:35:07):
I no doubt, Yeah, I've been to that one. I have.
I was down there when it opened up many many
years ago. I had a kind of a media deal
going on down there, and that's there. I don't know
what the I think this was just kind of a
contributors and the people who put this one together function today.
And Ellis told me he was going to be down
there this morning when I called.

Speaker 5 (01:35:29):
But I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:35:30):
He's probably just tied up somewhere. Maybe he lost his phone,
who knows. Oh, man, I got to take a break.
Holy cow, Bran, it's I'm so glad you called, man,
because that brought back a lot of surfing memories for
me too. What was your favorite board length? In all
all the surfing you've done, what size board did you
like the most?

Speaker 17 (01:35:49):
It's all was a long boarder younger when I was
you know, one hundred and fifty sixty pounds, I surfed
in eight footer because a nine footer was tougher to
get them, get it to move.

Speaker 2 (01:35:57):
Yeah, I got, yeah, you know, a.

Speaker 17 (01:35:59):
Nine soft at the beginning, kind of moving towards a
hard tale spooned out underneath.

Speaker 2 (01:36:04):
Yeah.

Speaker 17 (01:36:05):
And that way I could get a little nosewriting too, whenever.

Speaker 2 (01:36:07):
I needed to out point.

Speaker 17 (01:36:08):
I mean, you know, you could, you could get your
long ride somewhere.

Speaker 2 (01:36:11):
Yeah, I didn't get you know, when I got into
long boards and I got COVID. I'm just some neck
deep in this now. When I got into long boards
is when Doggett tried and I started going surfing with
Joe a little bit more. And he he had been
on long boards forever because he grew up ten years
prior to me. He grew up surfing like in the
in the sixties, late sixties and early seven or yeah,

(01:36:32):
the mid sixties to late sixties. That's when he started,
and there were no short boards really, it was all
long board stuff then. That's what he grew up on
and and he was very good. He was a very
good surfer. All right, buddy, I got a run.

Speaker 8 (01:36:46):
Man.

Speaker 2 (01:36:46):
It's great to hear from you. You know that. I'm
really I'm thrilled that you call man. Thanks, Brian, appreciate you. Yes, sir, audios.
All right, let me click that done, It's done, Okay, Yeah,
we got to get the break. Holy cow, tell you well,
we'll just take a clean break here. When we get back,
we're gonna try to find Ellis. If we can't, I'll
march on from here. If you want a many you
want to share a surfing story from Texas. The best

(01:37:09):
day you ever had surfing Texas. And Brian, if you
want to shoot me an email with yours and you
can remember when that was not the exact date, but
just the waves themselves. What do you remember about Texas surfing.
We'll take a little break here, we'll be right back
to Doug Pike Show on Sports Talk seven nights.

Speaker 8 (01:37:27):
This is Sports Talk seven ninety the Houston Sports Fan
on air and on Facebook at contact. Back to the
Doug Pike Show.

Speaker 2 (01:37:35):
Nine twenty three, almost nine to twenty to stand by
nine twenty four right there on Sports Talk seven nights,
Doug Pike Show. Thank you for listening, serving to do,
appreciate it. So glad Brian called talk about surfing. It
just brings back so many good memories. And I know,
darn well there are a lot of you in this
audience who surf, or at least surfed past tense. Some

(01:37:57):
of us not as young as we used to be,
some of us out as good at surfing as we
might have been a long time ago. But it sure
brings back good memories. I can remember in some of
the storm swell that we got around here. Man if
there was a storm in the Gulf of Mexico, it
was all eyes on the beach front, and we had
we had to rely on phone calls down there to

(01:38:19):
people we knew who lived down that way to figure
out what was going on. And surfing off the beach
just anywhere along the coast was out of the question
because you couldn't. You just couldn't get out to the
biggest waves. It would seem to take forever to paddle
through all that, just white water coming at you. We

(01:38:43):
rarely here got really clean surf, and on the rare
days we got it, it was I mean true confessions.
There may or may not have been more than a
couple of days when I left for school and somehow

(01:39:05):
got teleported to the beach to catch a good, clean
bunch of surf. And man, let me see if I
can get Aaron on the phone. And no, of course
I'm gonna put him on hold. Melbourny's all yours, Aaron?
What's up?

Speaker 16 (01:39:17):
Man?

Speaker 4 (01:39:19):
Nothing? I remember. I remember the best day I've ever
served down there.

Speaker 2 (01:39:24):
When was that?

Speaker 4 (01:39:24):
November November eighteenth, nineteen ninety six, Big Funday, my kid,
you not. The swell was eighteen feet at eighteen seconds
and then perfect. No, there was no water out of
place at all.

Speaker 2 (01:39:39):
Where was that at surfside?

Speaker 4 (01:39:42):
Yeah, surfside?

Speaker 2 (01:39:43):
Jitty, Oh my god?

Speaker 4 (01:39:46):
Yeah, look it up, man, it was. I got a
picture of me from the back of the wave and
the back of the wave was twelve foot.

Speaker 2 (01:39:52):
What year was that? I am going to look it up.
That sounds cool.

Speaker 4 (01:39:56):
November eighteenth, nineteen ninety six.

Speaker 2 (01:39:59):
Okay, I'll go check that out. Man. I served some
big days. I did serve some pretty big days down
there at surfside. Uh, but nothing, nothing that big.

Speaker 4 (01:40:10):
It was.

Speaker 2 (01:40:10):
There was definitely stuff ten twelve feet. Almost every storm
that comes in brings something in that range. But to
catch that and to catch it clean like that. Where
was the storm that produced all that?

Speaker 4 (01:40:22):
I don't even remember. It was a hurricane. I think
it was further south.

Speaker 2 (01:40:25):
Yeah, yeah, that's what I'm thinking. To clean up like that.
It almost had to be a south swell wrapping around
that jetty and then the.

Speaker 4 (01:40:37):
Wow lad overhead. But had a jump thart side when
the channel first started breaking in eighty Yeah. Yeah, I
split some guys in wide open down there one day.
I dropped in, Like you said, it was about poor
food overhead, and I just dropped from top to bottom

(01:40:58):
and I ran over him and oh man, poor god.
Oh no, it looked like I was scalping his head
with Oh my gosh.

Speaker 2 (01:41:10):
You know, there's some little piece of my memory that
remembers that happening. Not that you were involved or anything,
but just the word got around that somebody had almost
gotten their head taken off down there. But man, those
were some of the longest rides. If you knew how
to turn left and turn right, you could ride for
what thirty seconds? Would you say, conservatively?

Speaker 4 (01:41:32):
Yeah? I remember one time me, Jean and Rachel were
in there and the tide started going out, and I
kid you out, I paddled for two hours and could
not catch a wade and could not go in, just
to stay in position and not get washed out. The stout.

Speaker 2 (01:41:50):
Yeah, that ripped through there, but boy, it stacked it
up night. So those were some really pretty waves inside
there for the longest time. Man, Yeah, Lee, you're bringing
back some fun memories. Holy cow, I was on one
of dogg Its boards the best day I had inside
the channel. He had a seven six that was just
perfect for that, and you know it was it was
easy to catch ways on. It had a little more

(01:42:12):
flotation than what I owned at the time, and I
was getting a little older and a little heavier, and
he said, well, try this one. We went down there together,
and man, I fell in love with that board. I
tried to get it off of him. I never did,
but it was it was nice man.

Speaker 4 (01:42:28):
Good old Joe, good old Joe.

Speaker 2 (01:42:33):
Melvin. Melvin looked up the hurricane. It was Hurricane Marco.
He says, that ring a bell.

Speaker 4 (01:42:40):
Yeah, I can't I've served so many hurricanes down there.

Speaker 2 (01:42:43):
I know it was.

Speaker 4 (01:42:45):
I remember Hurricane uh, let's see ick Katrina. It was
a year before it was uh anyway down at surf
side and I rescued this guy just totally passed out
almost It was what was it, two thousand and four hurricane.

Speaker 1 (01:43:05):
Yeah, yeah, oh my god.

Speaker 2 (01:43:10):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:43:10):
What was the surf shop on Guestsinger North, Guestner right there,
the old man, oh.

Speaker 2 (01:43:15):
Man, I forgot about. I don't remember the name of it.
We had. We had a good number of surf shops
up here in town, I do remember, but I don't remember.
Who's the name of that place?

Speaker 4 (01:43:28):
Man?

Speaker 11 (01:43:30):
Now?

Speaker 2 (01:43:30):
And there was oh yeah, yeah, yeah, And there was
that one right down there in Surfside, right as you
came off the bridge on the right there. That was
owned by a guy who was Larry I can't remember
his last name. He was mayor of surf Side for
quite some time. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, you're exactly right, man,

(01:43:50):
just tripping down memory lane. Surfside, our upper Texas coast
gets a bad rap as surf destinations go. But the
people who surfed it regularly knew when to go and
and and boy if it was head high and glassy
that there were a lot of a lot of sicknesses
called in to work on those days.

Speaker 4 (01:44:12):
Weren't there lots of school skip?

Speaker 2 (01:44:17):
Holy cow? Oh man, yeah, I gotta take go ahead.

Speaker 4 (01:44:23):
First. Mordan was a bj Williamson like the sixth sad
oh not.

Speaker 2 (01:44:28):
Yeah, that's a good that's a good link for when
I was a little bit younger. Like I said earlier,
I started on a five to four man and then
that little wave hollow board I bought was six feet even,
and I fucked, golly, that thing's so big. It's six
feet long. It was fun though, it was all fun.
Still is I gotta get back out. I'm fired up now.

Speaker 4 (01:44:50):
I'm rededicating this year. Start surfing, you know, you.

Speaker 2 (01:44:56):
Know as well as anybody. It'll get you in good
physical condition faster than just about anything, will Man. Thanks,
it's good to talk to you. I gotta go take
a little break.

Speaker 5 (01:45:07):
Take care man.

Speaker 2 (01:45:07):
Yeah, audios, Holy cow, I'm having fun doing this. Holy cow, Melvin,
can you help me with the hang up over there?
I can't get to it. There we go. We gotta
take a little break.

Speaker 8 (01:45:19):
This is Sports Talk seven ninety, Breaking sports news on
Facebook twenty four or seven.

Speaker 2 (01:45:25):
We'll get that information to them. This nineteen thirty seven
on Sports Talk seven ninety. Guess who wrung us up?
When you got him on the phone now? And I'm
uh and he just bailed. That was Ellis. Did you
talk to him? Oh my gosh, these phones, these phones. Well,

(01:45:47):
if he calls back, great, If he doesn't, we'll we'll
still yeah, try to call him. See what happens. If not,
maybe we Oh yeah, that looks about right.

Speaker 6 (01:45:57):
That's you, Ellis, Yes, it is.

Speaker 2 (01:46:00):
I'm my word. Did you do sleep later? Did you
getting caught up on the causeway bridge or what.

Speaker 11 (01:46:06):
I'm at the museum working and I'll keep the hollering at.

Speaker 2 (01:46:13):
Oh, man. Well, I'm glad I got you. So you're
down there dusting everything off for the the private preview party.
Huh correct, yes for you guys. Man. So, so let's
I just got to cut straight to the chase. I've
only got a few minutes to talk to you, so
I want to get to the good stuff. Start from
the start. How long ago did this idea of a

(01:46:33):
Texas surf museum come into onto your radar?

Speaker 14 (01:46:38):
Well?

Speaker 11 (01:46:38):
Okay, uh, Brad Lomax and Karpus Christie started one or
two thousand down down there, I bet there.

Speaker 2 (01:46:45):
Yeah, I love it.

Speaker 11 (01:46:47):
Executive Surf Club and uh uh Albert Brown here, who's
our our museum president. He has been consulting with Brad
o on surfboards for years and he kept telling we
need a museum up in Galveston, and Brad finally finally
relented at one point and said, Okay, it's probably the

(01:47:08):
wrong time to do it. The economy is wrong.

Speaker 2 (01:47:11):
That never stopped the surfer.

Speaker 11 (01:47:14):
Let's just let's go for it, right exactly. So we
started raising money and he said, oh, he would be
able to help us with a rent. But and then
COVID hit and then we had some things going, and
Brad called and say, hey, guys, I can't I can't
help you out with money. You're gonna have to raise

(01:47:35):
your own.

Speaker 6 (01:47:36):
And so when.

Speaker 11 (01:47:38):
We left, Al and I were in the car and
Ilse said, Cruz, we'll just raise more money.

Speaker 2 (01:47:42):
Yeah, we.

Speaker 11 (01:47:45):
Did it the hard way, selling bumper stickers for a
ten dollars donation. Now we got a five oh one
C three. So we're doing everything there. But I had
some parties and a few places and some fundraisers. And
the building that we're in is the historic Galveston Daily
News printing office at twenty one. It's a big room

(01:48:07):
and it's got a lot of stuff in it. And
let's see. Shoot, well, right now we've got.

Speaker 2 (01:48:13):
Talk about this. What do you got in there?

Speaker 11 (01:48:17):
Well, surfboards for one thing.

Speaker 6 (01:48:18):
We got up.

Speaker 11 (01:48:20):
When you come in, there's a big display along the
side wall that starts off with about a twenty two
foot surfboard.

Speaker 2 (01:48:26):
It's a.

Speaker 11 (01:48:28):
Yeah, this is a royal Hawaiians road. It's a replica.
It looks beautiful. And right next to it is a
replica of Aliyah, which is a charter board which all
of us who weren't royals would ride. Sure, and the
next thing is one of the most iconic surfboards in Texas.
It's the first one that was built here that we

(01:48:50):
have ever found. That was built by a man named R.

Speaker 2 (01:48:53):
W LSR.

Speaker 11 (01:48:53):
When it was only fourteen or fifteen years old in Baycliff,
right after the World War two. And he Uh. I
asked him what he built, what he used to build it,
and he said anything. It was in dad's garage and
he used him tom Blake hollow surfboard uh plans that
were into popular mechanics a few years earlier. Oh wow,

(01:49:16):
So anyway, we got that one. We got two icons,
and then we goes through the uh the history of surfboards,
starting out.

Speaker 17 (01:49:23):
With the Olo all the way.

Speaker 11 (01:49:25):
To the new modern surfboards.

Speaker 6 (01:49:27):
UH.

Speaker 11 (01:49:27):
But we are other iconic surfboard that we have here
is actually a rescue paddle board, a wooden board, but
based on the tom Blake hollowboard plans. And it was
used by Leroy Colombo, who was a famous lifeguard down
here in Galston from like the thirties to retired in
sixty four.

Speaker 2 (01:49:47):
I thought that.

Speaker 11 (01:49:49):
Peter Davis had uh, who's the commander of the beach
patrol down here. He stopped by the museum before we
were opened, and he said, way, I've got Lerock Columbo's
board and I went, what, So we got this one
we also right now and that's the permanent exists. We
also have ch as for sale. We have T shirts

(01:50:10):
and stuff. We have collectible T shirts and things that
old old events. I called A and M, a professor to
A and M Galveston, and asked if we could borrow
his wave machine. He said, you can't have the big one,
and I said, I know, I want that little one.

Speaker 2 (01:50:26):
And it's sixteen cool.

Speaker 11 (01:50:29):
They got a clear plexiglass. It's got a motor and
a paddle at one end, and it makes waves and
so you can see how waves propagate and how the
beach is erode because of the waves.

Speaker 2 (01:50:40):
Really cool. So let me ask you, yes, Alice, when
do we open to the public.

Speaker 11 (01:50:45):
Okay, well, we're actually opening to the public on March eighth,
and it will be we will be opened on Thursday, Friday, Saturday,
and Sunday from ten am or is eleven am, don't
the oops eleven am to five pm. So starting March eighth,
it'll be open to the public. But also we've got

(01:51:07):
two more levels that go back where. We've got a
bunch more surfboards. Right now, we're featuring two of the
oldest Texas brands, Blaker and Fry. Yeah and oh yeah,
I mean it's great stuff. We've got an environmental section
that explains about the water pollution and coastal processes.

Speaker 17 (01:51:25):
We have five.

Speaker 11 (01:51:27):
Two yeah, we have five big screen TVs that are
continuously playing slide shows and videos of Texas surf.

Speaker 2 (01:51:38):
And that's the thing.

Speaker 11 (01:51:39):
We talked to them museums in California and they said,
you don't need a Greg nol Er, a doy whoever performer.
Texas has its own history. You just put your boards
in there and focus on that. Absolutely, some people are
coming in with great stuff. When do you think the
first surf contest was held in Texas?

Speaker 2 (01:52:00):
Oh lord, you want to make yes, sixties maybe mid sixties.

Speaker 11 (01:52:06):
It was a sixty four or sixth bad guess. Well, however,
we had one to bring in some contest metals, like
they have a little ribbon on the top and a
little bit and these are not plastic. This is and
the oldest ribbon we have comes from a contest in

(01:52:26):
Surfside Beach in nineteen fifty nine.

Speaker 2 (01:52:30):
Oh Wow, that's.

Speaker 11 (01:52:34):
Oh man, but it's really cool. We've got surf art,
We've got John Obie's art work here, Wade Kanakowski, Chris Hendrick,
John Steele, and a few others. I mean, everyone who's
come in is for sneak previews has just been amazed
by the things that we have.

Speaker 2 (01:52:53):
That's awesome. Anyway, March when to see March win Are
you opening up March eighth? March eight? Okay, and yeh,
come on in and make a donation to keep it going.
And is that about how.

Speaker 15 (01:53:09):
Well we're like, we were hoping to make it a
free one, but we reality you okay around in every
museum charges, we're on the low end of the charge.

Speaker 11 (01:53:22):
You can also join annual membership for twenty five dollars,
so in and out anytime you want to.

Speaker 2 (01:53:28):
For twenty five dollars. Yea, I hope you get a
lot of members for that. Holy cow, I hope so.

Speaker 11 (01:53:32):
But we also have life memberships too that they're you know,
in the hundreds of dollars, which we've got.

Speaker 2 (01:53:38):
A lot of people.

Speaker 11 (01:53:39):
Another thing, I got to get a shout out to
the Galveston businesses, and we have a lot of businesses
who have actually been cash and donation.

Speaker 2 (01:53:47):
Supporters to this museum. Well they've got man, I got
a piece of you know, they got your dog in
the hunt. That's good man.

Speaker 11 (01:53:53):
Yeah, you know, we can't I can't list them all
on the radio, but it's it's an amazing number of
people have thrown down anywhere from five hundred to ten
thousand dollars again, and that's it. We're a nonprofit. We've
got to have sustaining membership. Anybody out there with money,
come on down to the museum.

Speaker 2 (01:54:14):
You bet hey, I got a run man. That's great though.
That makes pretty good sense to me. Ellis all right,
Pardner March eight, they're gonna open up what's that address again?

Speaker 11 (01:54:24):
Twenty one ten mechanic. If you know where the Treemont
Hotel is, yep. If you're at a hotel, you just
look east and you'll see a big surfboard painted like
a Texas flag, says Texas Surf Museum about a block
of the Treemont.

Speaker 2 (01:54:38):
I'll be down there as soon as I can. I
want to come see the place. I really do.

Speaker 6 (01:54:41):
Thank you, Ellis right, thank you.

Speaker 11 (01:54:44):
Walk off of the have a good one.

Speaker 2 (01:54:46):
One block off the strap Okay, thanks, all right, Melbourne
take care of that because I can't. And there we go.
That was Ellis Pickle. We finally got him on the phone.
Typical surfer. You know, if there had been good waves
that they may have had to postpone. There there private
opening down there. That's gonna be a beautiful play.

Speaker 15 (01:55:03):
I know.

Speaker 2 (01:55:04):
I know Ellis well enough to know that they've done
a fine job of putting that together. And I don't
have a problem dropping a couple of bucks to go
in there and see what they've got. And I hope
you guys will go down there. Everybody I've talked to,
everybody who was listening this morning, getting into the surfing parts.
That's what we need. We gotta take a little break here.
When we get back, we will play Melbourne's jams and

(01:55:25):
jellies and see if we can't give away a beautiful
basketful of stuff from Brasses River Provisions Company. Be back
in a minute. The Doug Pike Show on Sports Talk
seven ninety ninety.

Speaker 8 (01:55:38):
This is Sports Talk seven ninety Houston Sports online at
sports seven ninety dot com. Back to The Doug Pike Show.

Speaker 2 (01:55:46):
Nineteen fifty one on Sports Talk seven ninety We're gonna
take a flyer here and see how it goes because
we we can't. Man, it's just such a long story,
but it is time to play the game. And I'm
gonna just get asked that this is John. Hold on,
I can't get him, hit him? Melvin, John, is that you? Yes, sir?

(01:56:08):
Thank goodness? Did you? I was? I was sending you.
I sent you an email said we can't scream who
it is right now. If it's a it's somebody he
hadn't called before. So what are the last four in
your number? But we figured by process of elimination that
this had to be you and lo and behold it is,
or unless you're some clever impersonator. But I suspect that

(01:56:29):
you John. So without further ado, me Melbourne play the
music and then we'll find out what John thinks. Today's
theme was.

Speaker 7 (01:56:47):
Now a taste of Melvin's chams and Jelly's on the
dunk bike shoulder, deliciously spread for you by Rossos River
provisions locally mate Gormete jams, jellies and sauces for all occasions.

Speaker 2 (01:57:02):
All right, So, without further ado, John, we need some
more fans, some some more fanfare, somehow, Melbourn, We're gonna
have to figure this out. I love the entry, I
love the intro. Okay John for all the well the
basket full of jams and jellies from Breass River Provisions Company.
What is today's thing?

Speaker 4 (01:57:24):
Love?

Speaker 2 (01:57:24):
That would be love, and that would be Melbourne hit it,
that would be correct, Yes and bees. It's just this
is the easiest till that audience to be quiet for
a minute. This this has got to be the easiest
contest to win on planet Earth. But I so enjoy

(01:57:45):
sharing these things with you. All you gotta do is
come by here and we're gonna have this nice, beautiful
basket full of four different jams and jellies from Bress
River Provisions. And then when you get home, you might
wanna call Mike Mercado out there and ask him what
pairs best with what, because everything he's got he's made
for a reason, and those reasons are to go with

(01:58:07):
something other than just a tortilla chip. So you got
a nice little basket coming to you. I will let
Melvin get your information, and man, if you're if you're here,
if you come to pick up when I'm here and
I'm not on the air. I'll come out and say
hi for sure. Good for you, man, I'm glad you
came around. We finally got this figured out, Melbourne. We

(01:58:28):
got it done. John's our winner. John, thanks for playing man.
I'll put you well, No, I can't. I don't think
I can do anything. I put it back on hold
and I can't even Okay, you take him from here, John,
Thanks again, Man, I'm glad you. I'm glad you came in.
All right, let me get back to what I'm doing here,
and that is got Lee. We're already wrapping up. We've
only got a couple of minutes. What I thought was

(01:58:49):
going to be more conversations about the fishing show, which
we covered pretty thoroughly I think in the first hour,
and what I thought was going to be talk about
white bass because the Parks of Wildlife had a very
favorable relief or release on that lo and behole. We
end up talking about surfing for a good part of

(01:59:09):
the program. And let's see, Yeah, Mojo wade in. I
greatly admire those with that kind of balance and coordination.
That was something that I think, honestly, I think it
helped me as an athlete growing up to learn how
to surf, and not just in balancing coordination, but also
in endurance. I remember Joe Doggett and I talking years

(01:59:31):
ago about something we found, or actually he found it
first and then shared it with me. I think it
was Sports Illustrated did a story on what professional sports
required the most physical conditioning. Number one was boxing, which
I that's a no brainer. If you're gonna get in

(01:59:51):
there and get yourself beat up for three minute rounds
and as many as fifteen of them. I think that's
how it worked in the heavy weight divisions. Boxing, You
gotta be tough. Number two was surfing, because waves will
punch you in the gut, they'll punch you in the head,

(02:00:13):
They'll they'll drag you under and hold you down for
a while. And if you're not in peak physical condition
and you're surfing big, rough waves, you're gonna get yourself
in trouble. I started out dating my own self. I
started out pre leash too. We didn't have surf leashes

(02:00:34):
when I started surfing. And if you paddled out on
a big day and you were two two hundred and
fifty yards off the beach, maybe more. Sometimes when we
jumped off the jetty we would be three hundred yards
off the beach. If you lost your surfboard, there was
a good chance that the only way you were gonna
get it back would be to just start swimming to

(02:00:55):
the beach and then wait till it got there. Eventually,
all of these things would wash up and then have
to turn around and paddle right back out. So yeah,
it's a great conditioning sport. It's a great balance and
coordination sport, and you can do it. It's it's similar
to golf in only this way. You can still do

(02:01:16):
it even well into seniority. But knowing myself the way
I know myself now, it would take me a while
to get back into good or even decent surfing condition.
I still remember how to do it. I still remember
what I would have to do to ride awave, especially

(02:01:36):
on my fry board. It's long and it'll glide and
it's easy to catch waves on. But man, I'd have
to get in better shape before I'd want to have
to paddle around out there for an hour or two.
I need to go to a wave pool. That's where
I could I could hone my skills again and reclaim
some of the well I was going to jokingly say

(02:01:57):
total domination of the surf, but nobody totally dominates the surf.
You give it time, the surf will dominate you and
it'll flat smack you around as long as you come
up smiling and breathing. Hey, it's one of the most awesome,
amazing sports ever I've gotten. I've had the pleasure of
surfing all over Mexico. I surf Hawaii twice. Not giant Hawaii,

(02:02:23):
but real pulse waves Hawaii. That was fun. The East
Coast pretty I worked that pretty well when I was
in college. The guy who played center field for US,
he and I were both avid surfers. We'd go over
to Pensacola and a little farther down south than that.
You can surf all over the world if you want,
and you'll have a good time anywhere you go do that.

(02:02:44):
That's something to think about. Tak up surfing as if
we don't have enough hobbies outdoors already. They're all great.
Get outside, have some fun with your family. I might
or might not see at the fishing show. I'm going
down there. If you run into me, say hello, Will
you'll be back tomorrow night? Audios, Stay safe, please,

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