April 17, 2025 • 15 mins
Wrapping up their series in St. Louis early yesterday afternoon, the Astros fall to the Cardinals with a final score of 4-1 resulting in another series loss following the series standing at 1-2 for the Astros. With the day off and set to tee-off their series against the Padres tomorrow, Astros GM Dana Brown joins Sean and Dan sharing a few comforting answers to a few concerning questions many Astro fans have began to wonder.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I live out there for the Sean Salisbury Show, continued,
grateful to have him to day, Dana, welcome in. Let
me get right into this early obvious but still the
discrepancy of you know, scoring a bunch of runs like
what fourteen of them one night, come back one one,
the lack of in between of the extremes. How do
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we get to that or is it just a matter
of continuing to play.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
Yeah, it's just a matter of continuing to play. I
would say, look, you know, early on in the season,
I've mentioned this before that the pictures are usually ahead
of the hitters. The timing is usually an issue. I
know we only have a few guys swinging a bat,
but I would feel like, look, look, these guys are
true professionals. They'll turn it around, and I'm very confident
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that these guys are going to be okay.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
Christian Walker, who I love, but you know, a rough
goal of it early on. You know he's had, uh,
you know, obviously good background and good past as a player,
so you lean on that. But David, does there come
to a point in time or is he just play
through it? He's a veteran. We keep playing him because
that's why we signed him. What do you say to
a guy or how do you approach a guy who's
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laboring hard?
Speaker 3 (01:16):
Right now?
Speaker 2 (01:18):
Yeah, I would say that he's pressing a little bit.
Of course, you know when you when you start to press,
you get a little frustrated. He's with his new teammates
and he's off to a slow start. You know, these
are things that you know, kind of added pressure. But look,
he's a true professional. You know, we signed him to
be the every day first baseman. We're eighteen games in,
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we have one hundred and forty four to go. It's
a long season. It's a marathon, not a sprint. And look,
we feel like Christian Walker is going to be pretty
good for us. And look he's he's that kind of
guy that's going to hit you that, you know, like
I said before, twenty five home runs, eight hundred ops,
and he'll get things turned around for sure. He's been
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this slow starter over the past few years, but then
he's picked it up. So I think there's going to
be really good things to come. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
Yeah, Dan, I'm sorry to interrupt. I'm a big nut
that I'm not managing anything. I'm a big believer. I'm
a little bit old school and you've got old school
and the new analytics part of it. We just had
John Smoltz on talking about how analytics scheduled days off.
But in Christian Walker's case, a veteran, are you more
app Dan, I'm talking about you, not the lineup, just
overall baseball wise. Are you more of a guy more
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app to let a guy play through the adversity or
let's sit him for a game or two to get
him a different perspective, or is it because of the
experience or if it was a guy that was younger.
Where do you sit on the scheduled day off or
a struggled day off as opposed to, Hey, man, veteran,
play your ass through it. That's called adversity.
Speaker 3 (02:49):
We all do it. Where do you lean on this?
Speaker 2 (02:52):
Yeah, I'm actually a proponent of both. I think the
biggest part here is you have to find out, you know,
where he is mentally, and if it's if he's really
really stressing, you probably have to sit him for a
day and just let him take a deep breath. I
don't think he's to the at that point yet, but
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if he really starts to press too much, then you
may have to sit him for a day, but ultimately
he'll get this thing turned around. You just never know
when you see a guy that could be the day
that you really get them to turn around. And so
the hits coming bunches. You know, if he can get
a couple hits there, and a couple hits there and there,
things will turn around. You know. Sometimes it's a bluep hit,
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it's an infill hit. You know, it's a home run.
It's it's something that gets you going and gets you
to turn the corner.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
Data Brown asks those DM for his weekly visit just
a day later this week because of travel schedule. Grateful
to have him on back on at nine thirty next Wednesday.
All Right, Dana, when it comes to yourd on we go,
you saw the big blast in the two to nothing game.
A couple of games go sits. Yesterday scheduled day off.
So my question to you is what a guy like
that when we're talking about rest and the load management goes.
(04:03):
I know it was a scheduled day off, but is
there ever any thought to we need him to speaking
of a guy who hit home runs in bunches, he
hit his second, was there any talk or would there
be any talked to forget the scheduled day off. Let's
let this guy get on a roll. He's normally a
dh I know he played left field over the weekend,
but was there a thought of, no, let's keep him
in the lineup, or is a scheduled day off etched
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in stone for you guys.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
Look, I think it goes with the territory. I think
sometimes what happens is you shit these guys and all
of a sudden they come back in the lineup, and
then you get five really good games in a row,
you know, as opposed to continuing to run him out there.
And you know, sometimes the guys get tired, particularly early
in the season when they're trying to get into baseball shape,
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because it takes a little time to get into baseball shape,
the timing and all of the other stuff that goes
with the long season. And so sometimes these scheduled days
off will do wonders and work wonders. We'll see how
that plays out over the next few days, but ultimately
these days off can can create really positive results in
(05:10):
the future.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
Dana are we passed the days and talking to John
Smoltz as well, who covers it and loves your guys.
Team and the way you guys go about your business.
Are we passed the days when you come to the
ballpark you're penciled in one hundred and fifty two games
a year?
Speaker 3 (05:25):
Are those are those days over? And if they are, why?
Speaker 2 (05:30):
Yeah? I just think the grind of baseball today. You know,
everybody's throwing hard. You know, everyone's looking for the ads,
the preparation that goes into all of the you know,
hard work. Remember back in the day, the players like
work jobs on.
Speaker 3 (05:46):
The offseason, right, you know, right, it.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
Was a lot different. I mean, guys today are such
into their craft to work out all of the things
that they do to prepare for a long season. And
that's why, you know, we have to really take a
step back. Let these guys continue to play, let the
season unfold. We're eight and ten, we have a really
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good team, and you know, let's just get hot. You know, well,
we'll hover right around five hundred and then when we
get on all cylinders, meaning the back, the defense, the pitching,
the bullpen, all of that, I think we're going to
really make an impact on the America League West. But
I think we we have to continue to remember this
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is a marathime. Not a sprint. You don't want to
start sprinting and in the maritime because you're not going
to have anything left at the end. So, you know,
let these guys continue to play, let them continue to
get their timing, you know, and I think good things
are going to happen. I really feel good about this.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
Club, Dana. Jake Myers is playing some pretty good baseball.
You know, the question, you're a really elite defender, will
he be able to hit? And some you know say, well,
if he's great at defense, I don't care if he
it's one ninety seven. Well, you're getting the best out
of Jake Myers right now. Is this sustainable with him?
And is this what you envisioned for him when you
said this guy can play?
Speaker 3 (07:09):
Is this the guy you envisioned?
Speaker 2 (07:12):
Well? Yeah, So if you get that kind of defense
and you get some offense to go with it, you know,
that's like that's the gravy. And so ultimately we really
project to him, we project him to continue to play. Well,
we're not sure how long he's gonna you know, hit
the ball as well as he's hitting it now, but
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right now he's off to a good start. If he
could sustain that that's going to put him into another
category of player, like middle of the field, elite defender.
Now the bat comes and that turns into a different
caliber of a player. So you know, our main goal
with him is, you know, defense first, and you know,
whatever he gives you with the bat, that's you know,
(07:54):
pretty special. If you continue to swing the back the
way he's swinging it now, that's going to be a
real gift the team. So we do expect them, you know,
to have quality at bats and do some good things
with the bat. But what he's doing right now is
it potentially to put him into another category.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
Dan, are you concerned about the well inability whether it's
holding them or throwing them out the way people are
running on your team right now and basically it feels
like a free base from our standpoint. Can that get
fixed during a season and what's the remedy?
Speaker 2 (08:28):
Yeah, it can get fixed. We actually had conversations about
this that guys are pretty aggressive on us right now.
We have Diez behind the plate who as a canon,
and so we talked about like, look, let's you know,
pay attention to the runner a little bit more, give
them different looks, hold them a little bit longer. Although
holding a little longer, it's a little tricky because of
the pitch clock, and so you don't get to really
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hold them. I remember back in the day, you know,
a few years back before the pitch clock, you know,
you used to be able to hold the runners. And
I used to hate it as a player because it
would take the spring out of your legs. So some
times you hold the runner and you wait a few
seconds and make him guess when you're going to go
to the play. That puts on the freeze a little bit.
And so I think we we have to get better
(09:09):
at that. We had really extended conversations about it. I
think you will see the club adjust in that respect.
Uh you know. So we've talked to the pitchers, we've
talked to the coaches, and you know, we'll we'll get
that fixed in the course of the season. And this
is this is what baseball is all about. One hundred
and sixty two games when you're you know, down in
(09:29):
this area or down in that area. Let's work on
getting that fixed. So you know, we could be, uh,
you know, in a position to win more ball games
and sustain the.
Speaker 1 (09:37):
Winning just eighteen games in. But is there something that's
a major concern to you right now, or is this
eighteen game typical for the most part of start that
there's concerns but not panic.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
Yeah. I mean, look what it is is you know, guys,
you know when you pitch, you're you're thinking about the
hitter getting getting ahead, drown It's so focused on the hitter.
It's like you lose track of that base runner. It's
early in the season, guys, just start, you know, we
want to get off to a good start. Our pitching
has been pretty good, and so we just have to
(10:10):
refocus and say, look, we have base runners out there.
We have to hold them, we have to give them
different looks, we have to throw over and you know,
it's a matter of having a conversation, implementing a plan
and getting it done. And so I see the same
thing that our fans are seeing. We've had conversations about
(10:31):
about it, and you know, we're going to definitely address it.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
Dana Brown for a couple more minutes here on Sports
Talk seven ninety for his weekly visit. Is there a
timetable on when we should anticipate Lance mccullor starting a
game for the major league team?
Speaker 2 (10:47):
Yeah, So he's going to pitch, you know again this weekend.
He's going to go up to five innings, seventy five
to eighty pitches. You know, there's an outside chance he
could join us in the Kansas City series, and so
you know we're we're we're aiming for that, but you know,
it's one day at a time. He's been doing very well.
He's been you know, up to ninety four, he's been
(11:10):
bouncing back, no issues, no no pain or anything, and
so we've been very very happy with his progress. And look,
it would be really nice to see him take till
the rubber in Kansas City. So I mean, that's what
we're projecting. You know, we have a target of the
(11:31):
of the case series and hopefully that happens. But if
it doesn't happen there, he probably won't be too far behind.
But he's been doing well and bouncing back very well.
Speaker 1 (11:41):
And you do see him when he comes back immediately
thrust into a starting role, which as it currently stands,
which would probably mean Gusto goes back to the bullpen.
Speaker 3 (11:49):
Correct, Yeah, I see.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
Him in the starter's row. You know, look, at the
end of the day, we were we want to get
him back on the mound. But we do see him
as a starter row. That's why we've building them up,
you know, to start, and so it's not he's not
one of those guys that we think has to come
back in the pen and throw a couple of innings
and and kind of get his you know, competitive nature back.
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He's a veteran arm He's doing very well in his rehab.
He's up to five innings, and so ultimately we see
him coming back as a starter.
Speaker 3 (12:21):
All right, I'll finish you with this.
Speaker 1 (12:24):
John Smoltz had said, I asked him about, you know,
Fromber and Hunter Brown, and he loves them both. But
I was mentioned about the trust in Hunter Brown this
early in infancy of his career, and John one hundred
percent wholly believes that he has a single elimination game
for a World series or a playoff game, one hundred
percent to trust Hunter Brown that he's that guy.
Speaker 3 (12:46):
Agree or disagree, Well, look, I trust both guys.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
Uh. You know, Framber's been our number one. He's pitched
in huge games for the Astros yep, all throughout it,
throughout his entire career. So you know, look, I'm just
happy that we have both of those guys at the
top of our rotation. You know, Framburgh will have a
good one hair and then Neil, you know'll have an
adding where it's not as good, and so we got
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to get him locked down to throw more consistent. You know,
Brown has been outstanding and very good this year, and
so I mean I could see why she mostly would
say that, you know, I mean, I'm not going to
debate a Hall of Famer, but I would say I
like both guys. Both guys are really good. Happy with
both guys at the top of the rotation, and you know,
(13:33):
we had one game tomorrow, it wouldn't be my decision
on who's drawing. I would take either guy. But make
no mistake, both guys are really.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
Good and data No, John degrees one hundred percent with you,
because we were talking about fromber and you know, the
little bit of the emotional mental that gets in the
way a little bit. He said, I freaking love him
because he's so efficient and he doesn't have to overwork
his to throw strikes and get people out.
Speaker 3 (13:54):
Oh, he loves him. And then I brought up on
a Brown.
Speaker 1 (13:56):
He kind of laughs at well, it's from my home town,
and yeah, I like that guy. Too, and he was
talking about that you could trust both. But he thinks
that Hunter Brown's got a phenomenal future, and the future
maybe sooner than we think because he's so good now.
So he's not disagreeing, there would be no debate. The
debate is you love him both, and so does he.
So as I end this a big series coming up
at home this weekend, A good way to get started
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at home and getting this thing rolling against these padres.
Speaker 3 (14:21):
Huh.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
Absolutely, we need the offense to really turn the corner.
We're coming back home to our ballpark. You know, our
guys have been swinging a bat a little bit better
at home, and so we're looking for some offense. We
are really looking for some offense from our guys, and
so what a beautiful time to turn the corner. He
gets a good club like San Diego and so this
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is this is where we need to really turn it
up the dial. So hopefully we'll be ready to go.
Speaker 1 (14:49):
Astro fans, Dana, we appreciate it, thanks for I know
we had we moved it, but we appreciate you doing
that for us. And we'll look forward to next Wednesday
at nine thirty and have a great weekend.
Speaker 3 (14:59):
Against the padres Man. Thank you, thank you.
Speaker 2 (15:02):
I appreciate you guys being flexible.
Speaker 1 (15:03):
Thank you, no problem always, that's a great Dane Brown
will come back and close it out with discussion. A
lot of astros talk, I think the common theme is
gotta hit, gotta hit better into clutch situations and hopefully
that will change coming right back
I live out there for the Sean Salisbury Show, continued,
grateful to have him to day, Dana, welcome in. Let
me get right into this early obvious but still the
discrepancy of you know, scoring a bunch of runs like
what fourteen of them one night, come back one one,
the lack of in between of the extremes. How do
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we get to that or is it just a matter
of continuing to play.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
Yeah, it's just a matter of continuing to play. I
would say, look, you know, early on in the season,
I've mentioned this before that the pictures are usually ahead
of the hitters. The timing is usually an issue. I
know we only have a few guys swinging a bat,
but I would feel like, look, look, these guys are
true professionals. They'll turn it around, and I'm very confident
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that these guys are going to be okay.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
Christian Walker, who I love, but you know, a rough
goal of it early on. You know he's had, uh,
you know, obviously good background and good past as a player,
so you lean on that. But David, does there come
to a point in time or is he just play
through it? He's a veteran. We keep playing him because
that's why we signed him. What do you say to
a guy or how do you approach a guy who's
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laboring hard?
Speaker 3 (01:16):
Right now?
Speaker 2 (01:18):
Yeah, I would say that he's pressing a little bit.
Of course, you know when you when you start to press,
you get a little frustrated. He's with his new teammates
and he's off to a slow start. You know, these
are things that you know, kind of added pressure. But look,
he's a true professional. You know, we signed him to
be the every day first baseman. We're eighteen games in,
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we have one hundred and forty four to go. It's
a long season. It's a marathon, not a sprint. And look,
we feel like Christian Walker is going to be pretty
good for us. And look he's he's that kind of
guy that's going to hit you that, you know, like
I said before, twenty five home runs, eight hundred ops,
and he'll get things turned around for sure. He's been
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this slow starter over the past few years, but then
he's picked it up. So I think there's going to
be really good things to come. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
Yeah, Dan, I'm sorry to interrupt. I'm a big nut
that I'm not managing anything. I'm a big believer. I'm
a little bit old school and you've got old school
and the new analytics part of it. We just had
John Smoltz on talking about how analytics scheduled days off.
But in Christian Walker's case, a veteran, are you more
app Dan, I'm talking about you, not the lineup, just
overall baseball wise. Are you more of a guy more
(02:31):
app to let a guy play through the adversity or
let's sit him for a game or two to get
him a different perspective, or is it because of the
experience or if it was a guy that was younger.
Where do you sit on the scheduled day off or
a struggled day off as opposed to, Hey, man, veteran,
play your ass through it. That's called adversity.
Speaker 3 (02:49):
We all do it. Where do you lean on this?
Speaker 2 (02:52):
Yeah, I'm actually a proponent of both. I think the
biggest part here is you have to find out, you know,
where he is mentally, and if it's if he's really
really stressing, you probably have to sit him for a
day and just let him take a deep breath. I
don't think he's to the at that point yet, but
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if he really starts to press too much, then you
may have to sit him for a day, but ultimately
he'll get this thing turned around. You just never know
when you see a guy that could be the day
that you really get them to turn around. And so
the hits coming bunches. You know, if he can get
a couple hits there, and a couple hits there and there,
things will turn around. You know. Sometimes it's a bluep hit,
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it's an infill hit. You know, it's a home run.
It's it's something that gets you going and gets you
to turn the corner.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
Data Brown asks those DM for his weekly visit just
a day later this week because of travel schedule. Grateful
to have him on back on at nine thirty next Wednesday.
All Right, Dana, when it comes to yourd on we go,
you saw the big blast in the two to nothing game.
A couple of games go sits. Yesterday scheduled day off.
So my question to you is what a guy like
that when we're talking about rest and the load management goes.
(04:03):
I know it was a scheduled day off, but is
there ever any thought to we need him to speaking
of a guy who hit home runs in bunches, he
hit his second, was there any talk or would there
be any talked to forget the scheduled day off. Let's
let this guy get on a roll. He's normally a
dh I know he played left field over the weekend,
but was there a thought of, no, let's keep him
in the lineup, or is a scheduled day off etched
(04:25):
in stone for you guys.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
Look, I think it goes with the territory. I think
sometimes what happens is you shit these guys and all
of a sudden they come back in the lineup, and
then you get five really good games in a row,
you know, as opposed to continuing to run him out there.
And you know, sometimes the guys get tired, particularly early
in the season when they're trying to get into baseball shape,
(04:49):
because it takes a little time to get into baseball shape,
the timing and all of the other stuff that goes
with the long season. And so sometimes these scheduled days
off will do wonders and work wonders. We'll see how
that plays out over the next few days, but ultimately
these days off can can create really positive results in
(05:10):
the future.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
Dana are we passed the days and talking to John
Smoltz as well, who covers it and loves your guys.
Team and the way you guys go about your business.
Are we passed the days when you come to the
ballpark you're penciled in one hundred and fifty two games
a year?
Speaker 3 (05:25):
Are those are those days over? And if they are, why?
Speaker 2 (05:30):
Yeah? I just think the grind of baseball today. You know,
everybody's throwing hard. You know, everyone's looking for the ads,
the preparation that goes into all of the you know,
hard work. Remember back in the day, the players like
work jobs on.
Speaker 3 (05:46):
The offseason, right, you know, right, it.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
Was a lot different. I mean, guys today are such
into their craft to work out all of the things
that they do to prepare for a long season. And
that's why, you know, we have to really take a
step back. Let these guys continue to play, let the
season unfold. We're eight and ten, we have a really
(06:09):
good team, and you know, let's just get hot. You know, well,
we'll hover right around five hundred and then when we
get on all cylinders, meaning the back, the defense, the pitching,
the bullpen, all of that, I think we're going to
really make an impact on the America League West. But
I think we we have to continue to remember this
(06:31):
is a marathime. Not a sprint. You don't want to
start sprinting and in the maritime because you're not going
to have anything left at the end. So, you know,
let these guys continue to play, let them continue to
get their timing, you know, and I think good things
are going to happen. I really feel good about this.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
Club, Dana. Jake Myers is playing some pretty good baseball.
You know, the question, you're a really elite defender, will
he be able to hit? And some you know say, well,
if he's great at defense, I don't care if he
it's one ninety seven. Well, you're getting the best out
of Jake Myers right now. Is this sustainable with him?
And is this what you envisioned for him when you
said this guy can play?
Speaker 3 (07:09):
Is this the guy you envisioned?
Speaker 2 (07:12):
Well? Yeah, So if you get that kind of defense
and you get some offense to go with it, you know,
that's like that's the gravy. And so ultimately we really
project to him, we project him to continue to play. Well,
we're not sure how long he's gonna you know, hit
the ball as well as he's hitting it now, but
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right now he's off to a good start. If he
could sustain that that's going to put him into another
category of player, like middle of the field, elite defender.
Now the bat comes and that turns into a different
caliber of a player. So you know, our main goal
with him is, you know, defense first, and you know,
whatever he gives you with the bat, that's you know,
(07:54):
pretty special. If you continue to swing the back the
way he's swinging it now, that's going to be a
real gift the team. So we do expect them, you know,
to have quality at bats and do some good things
with the bat. But what he's doing right now is
it potentially to put him into another category.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
Dan, are you concerned about the well inability whether it's
holding them or throwing them out the way people are
running on your team right now and basically it feels
like a free base from our standpoint. Can that get
fixed during a season and what's the remedy?
Speaker 2 (08:28):
Yeah, it can get fixed. We actually had conversations about
this that guys are pretty aggressive on us right now.
We have Diez behind the plate who as a canon,
and so we talked about like, look, let's you know,
pay attention to the runner a little bit more, give
them different looks, hold them a little bit longer. Although
holding a little longer, it's a little tricky because of
the pitch clock, and so you don't get to really
(08:48):
hold them. I remember back in the day, you know,
a few years back before the pitch clock, you know,
you used to be able to hold the runners. And
I used to hate it as a player because it
would take the spring out of your legs. So some
times you hold the runner and you wait a few
seconds and make him guess when you're going to go
to the play. That puts on the freeze a little bit.
And so I think we we have to get better
(09:09):
at that. We had really extended conversations about it. I
think you will see the club adjust in that respect.
Uh you know. So we've talked to the pitchers, we've
talked to the coaches, and you know, we'll we'll get
that fixed in the course of the season. And this
is this is what baseball is all about. One hundred
and sixty two games when you're you know, down in
(09:29):
this area or down in that area. Let's work on
getting that fixed. So you know, we could be, uh,
you know, in a position to win more ball games
and sustain the.
Speaker 1 (09:37):
Winning just eighteen games in. But is there something that's
a major concern to you right now, or is this
eighteen game typical for the most part of start that
there's concerns but not panic.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
Yeah. I mean, look what it is is you know, guys,
you know when you pitch, you're you're thinking about the
hitter getting getting ahead, drown It's so focused on the hitter.
It's like you lose track of that base runner. It's
early in the season, guys, just start, you know, we
want to get off to a good start. Our pitching
has been pretty good, and so we just have to
(10:10):
refocus and say, look, we have base runners out there.
We have to hold them, we have to give them
different looks, we have to throw over and you know,
it's a matter of having a conversation, implementing a plan
and getting it done. And so I see the same
thing that our fans are seeing. We've had conversations about
(10:31):
about it, and you know, we're going to definitely address it.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
Dana Brown for a couple more minutes here on Sports
Talk seven ninety for his weekly visit. Is there a
timetable on when we should anticipate Lance mccullor starting a
game for the major league team?
Speaker 2 (10:47):
Yeah, So he's going to pitch, you know again this weekend.
He's going to go up to five innings, seventy five
to eighty pitches. You know, there's an outside chance he
could join us in the Kansas City series, and so
you know we're we're we're aiming for that, but you know,
it's one day at a time. He's been doing very well.
He's been you know, up to ninety four, he's been
(11:10):
bouncing back, no issues, no no pain or anything, and
so we've been very very happy with his progress. And look,
it would be really nice to see him take till
the rubber in Kansas City. So I mean, that's what
we're projecting. You know, we have a target of the
(11:31):
of the case series and hopefully that happens. But if
it doesn't happen there, he probably won't be too far behind.
But he's been doing well and bouncing back very well.
Speaker 1 (11:41):
And you do see him when he comes back immediately
thrust into a starting role, which as it currently stands,
which would probably mean Gusto goes back to the bullpen.
Speaker 3 (11:49):
Correct, Yeah, I see.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
Him in the starter's row. You know, look, at the
end of the day, we were we want to get
him back on the mound. But we do see him
as a starter row. That's why we've building them up,
you know, to start, and so it's not he's not
one of those guys that we think has to come
back in the pen and throw a couple of innings
and and kind of get his you know, competitive nature back.
(12:12):
He's a veteran arm He's doing very well in his rehab.
He's up to five innings, and so ultimately we see
him coming back as a starter.
Speaker 3 (12:21):
All right, I'll finish you with this.
Speaker 1 (12:24):
John Smoltz had said, I asked him about, you know,
Fromber and Hunter Brown, and he loves them both. But
I was mentioned about the trust in Hunter Brown this
early in infancy of his career, and John one hundred
percent wholly believes that he has a single elimination game
for a World series or a playoff game, one hundred
percent to trust Hunter Brown that he's that guy.
Speaker 3 (12:46):
Agree or disagree, Well, look, I trust both guys.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
Uh. You know, Framber's been our number one. He's pitched
in huge games for the Astros yep, all throughout it,
throughout his entire career. So you know, look, I'm just
happy that we have both of those guys at the
top of our rotation. You know, Framburgh will have a
good one hair and then Neil, you know'll have an
adding where it's not as good, and so we got
(13:12):
to get him locked down to throw more consistent. You know,
Brown has been outstanding and very good this year, and
so I mean I could see why she mostly would
say that, you know, I mean, I'm not going to
debate a Hall of Famer, but I would say I
like both guys. Both guys are really good. Happy with
both guys at the top of the rotation, and you know,
(13:33):
we had one game tomorrow, it wouldn't be my decision
on who's drawing. I would take either guy. But make
no mistake, both guys are really.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
Good and data No, John degrees one hundred percent with you,
because we were talking about fromber and you know, the
little bit of the emotional mental that gets in the
way a little bit. He said, I freaking love him
because he's so efficient and he doesn't have to overwork
his to throw strikes and get people out.
Speaker 3 (13:54):
Oh, he loves him. And then I brought up on
a Brown.
Speaker 1 (13:56):
He kind of laughs at well, it's from my home town,
and yeah, I like that guy. Too, and he was
talking about that you could trust both. But he thinks
that Hunter Brown's got a phenomenal future, and the future
maybe sooner than we think because he's so good now.
So he's not disagreeing, there would be no debate. The
debate is you love him both, and so does he.
So as I end this a big series coming up
at home this weekend, A good way to get started
(14:19):
at home and getting this thing rolling against these padres.
Speaker 3 (14:21):
Huh.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
Absolutely, we need the offense to really turn the corner.
We're coming back home to our ballpark. You know, our
guys have been swinging a bat a little bit better
at home, and so we're looking for some offense. We
are really looking for some offense from our guys, and
so what a beautiful time to turn the corner. He
gets a good club like San Diego and so this
(14:44):
is this is where we need to really turn it
up the dial. So hopefully we'll be ready to go.
Speaker 1 (14:49):
Astro fans, Dana, we appreciate it, thanks for I know
we had we moved it, but we appreciate you doing
that for us. And we'll look forward to next Wednesday
at nine thirty and have a great weekend.
Speaker 3 (14:59):
Against the padres Man. Thank you, thank you.
Speaker 2 (15:02):
I appreciate you guys being flexible.
Speaker 1 (15:03):
Thank you, no problem always, that's a great Dane Brown
will come back and close it out with discussion. A
lot of astros talk, I think the common theme is
gotta hit, gotta hit better into clutch situations and hopefully
that will change coming right back
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