Astros Sweep Twins, J.J. Spaun Wins U.S. Open, NBA Finals Game 3 Preview, Steve Sparks Weekly Segment

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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Salisbury.

Speaker 2 (00:04):
Okay, let's do this Sewan Salisbury.

Speaker 1 (00:12):
To usc Troup's longtime friend Shawn Salisbury.

Speaker 2 (00:14):
Dan Matthew, excuse, this is the Sean Salisbury show.

Speaker 3 (00:23):
Three two trick three call.

Speaker 4 (00:26):
Frozen with a fastball that was basically down the middle.
Fit strikeout for Walter and the twin strand a pair
first pitch, Tarantini lifts it to left. This should be
keeping up to get the run at Castro to his
right makes the catch.

Speaker 5 (00:40):
Payta tack.

Speaker 4 (00:41):
The throw goes home, all the way home, not barely
in time. Paint you scores. We're tied at one. Altobe
goes to second.

Speaker 6 (00:48):
What a blunder to throw it home there, bad baseball
by the left fielder.

Speaker 4 (00:53):
Ader comes set the tow two. Horrea pops it up
on the infield. Paynia to his left now a couple
of steps in the outfield makes the two handed grab,
and the twins are blanked. In the top of the
tenth long set the one and that has hit high
in the air pretty keep to last center.

Speaker 3 (01:13):
It sends back Pastro on the warning track. He leaves.
He can't get it.

Speaker 7 (01:17):
It's off the fence, scoring his buyers, and the Astros
walk off the Twins two to one. Dubab bobbed out
by second base as he ends at over fifteen on
the ball that Castro leaped for against the fence in
front of the visitor's bullpen. Looked like he might have

(01:37):
gotten leather on it, but he didn't come up with
it and ahead against the chain like fence.

Speaker 3 (01:43):
How about that? Huh?

Speaker 8 (01:46):
Nice little Father's day for everybody out there, Mauricio Dubon
new Dad. He says, happy Father's Day everyone. So Robert
Ford's filling you in on the rest of the details,
and with that we say away we go in good
morning here on on a Monday edition of The Sean
Salisbury Show, Sports Talks seven ninety Stros sweeping the Twins

(02:06):
over the weekend. You love to see that massive trade
in Major League Baseball. We'll talk about that, JJ Spawn,
your winner at the US Open. It was a jam
packed Father's Day Sunday, which, by the way, too bad
on me, Sean Salisbury to not wish you a happy
Father's Day yesterday.

Speaker 9 (02:23):
Welcome back by no problem, but thank you. It's a
great father's day. Great to be back in studio and
made the just said, I'm not slowing down dude made
the full drive and one fell swoop got back and
it's good to be here. And it was a great
Father's Day. Grateful for my kids and my pops. Wish
he was around, but it was good man Like Father's
Day makes take step back and realize what's important man,

(02:46):
So sure could be back in thank you.

Speaker 8 (02:48):
Yeah, absolutely, I mean it was an elite day where
you get the Astros and I threw it out on Twitter.
The place we went to for Father's Day lunch for
Megan's dad and her brother and her two nephews were
in town, so we went and I had four sets
of TVs in front of me. On the left, he
had the Astros in the middle. On the top and
bottom TVs he had Arizona and Louisville and the College

(03:11):
World Series. I mean talked about on Friday, massive fan
of the College World Series in Omaha. And then you
had the US Open Final round firing up there on
the other TV. I said, I don't think I'm ever
going to leave. I think I'm going to stay here.
They can just keep a tab running and I'll pay
it as I go.

Speaker 9 (03:26):
It makes for a hell of a day, though, does it.
And then a long tournament because the rain delay, and
good on JJ Spahn. Sometimes when you don't get any rest,
you don't know what's going on. Bogie's first five for
five for six holes, and then it hits shots that
we usually reserved for Woods and Scheffler under the pressure
he was under with wet fairways and the rest of it.

Speaker 3 (03:47):
The truth is very few other people handled it well.

Speaker 9 (03:50):
He just kept playing golf man, and they'll talk about
an exclamation point. You're sixty plus feet away and just
lag it up there and two putt and go home
with a win.

Speaker 3 (03:58):
Right, dude decides knock it right to the bottom.

Speaker 9 (04:02):
Yeah, good on him, old San Diego State kid, and
has been close one to one. Tournament been closer obviously
the players when the guy opposite is Drue in the playoff,
he could not hit a shot when he was by
Maclaroy just kind of yawned his way to that victory
in the playoff yesterday, though, I mean, and I love
Sam Burns and Adam Scott both good, but I think

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head into eighteen they were both eight over par yesterday.
The one thing it does when you're watching that tournament
at there's there's not a tougher golf course on the planet.

Speaker 3 (04:33):
Then the way it was set up.

Speaker 9 (04:36):
Oh yeah, oh yeah, he makes sure you know. I
mean maybe if clubs breaking, slamming, throwing, I mean, and
I've talked about you look ready, you could put a
compilation of the frustration of clubs being slammed in the
ground drop.

Speaker 8 (04:48):
I mean my guy? Uh, who is who's in it?
Who's he lived?

Speaker 9 (04:52):
Guy?

Speaker 3 (04:52):
And he wins on Live? Hatton?

Speaker 9 (04:54):
Yeah, Terrell Hatton talk about a guy whears motion on sleep.
He hits a bad shot, he's he's But it was
all over the place this week. It made it look
like US and pros don't like to be embarrassed. And
while it may be fair for a US Open, dude,
if you can't hit it in the in the fairway
and somewhere close, you got no shot and spawn.

Speaker 3 (05:16):
I mean, it was his game.

Speaker 9 (05:19):
The last night holes, especially the last five or six,
was a fantastic watch. And if you didn't watch it
because his name wasn't Woods or Scheffler or macelroy, you
probably missed out because it's what a what a grind again?
He bogied five of the first six holes. It was
up all night because his kid was sick, shows up
probably exhausted and relax. I mean to the point it's like,

(05:42):
what do you do? You just show up and put
ball in. It's rain. I know, you don't even know
how the day's gonna end. Right, it ended really well
for him. That's a lot of money, but more importantly
a major at you can always say I was the
best player in the world for four days at the
toughest venue on the planet, aside from the wind blowing
at the Kiowa the Ocean course, I don't know. I

(06:02):
don't see how there's a tougher golf course. I think
they've I thought I heard Dan Hicks say yesterday at
the toughest golf course in the on the PGA Tour,
So I'm assuming that. Plus, you know, it's it's like
eight times it's hosted like a US Open. I mean,
it's a major, right, and.

Speaker 3 (06:21):
It's one of the countries.

Speaker 9 (06:22):
There's no it's runs the highway runs right through the
golf course.

Speaker 3 (06:27):
You don't see that very often.

Speaker 9 (06:28):
I love the big square greens you know on some
of them, Yeah, just I mean they were huge. Normally
you don't usually see that. You may see it on
some courses across the pond. You just don't normally see that,
and there's big greens, but man, if you don't hit
it close the right way, you got no shot. It
was an impressive performance and good on him to win
this first major like that.

Speaker 8 (06:46):
Well, and you know, of course you have the weather
delay that comes through, and uh, it was funny. I
was telling you the story of if anybody doesn't follow
golf incredibly closely, then you would have thought that that
was the actual footage, and that was like the actual broadcast.
So my soon to be mother in law, as I
got finished with the postgame show yesterday, I was doing

(07:09):
it for Gordy and she goes, oh, Tiger won. It
was awesome to watch. I had to go, yeah, that
was two thousand and eight.

Speaker 9 (07:19):
But he sure did talk about it. Guy came back
and had some shots. Spawn looked on those long putts
and shots the woods hit. Yeah, JJ, Spawn looked like
that yesterday. He really did. He was hitting shots at
a and Tory Pine South and at his brutal that's
my hometown. That's brutal golf course, but no more brutal
than the one you saw yesterday. And he was sitting
similar shots if that would have been Woods or McElroy

(07:41):
though the whole I mean, you would have been riveted.
Oh yeah, television set and hopefully some were because he
made some shots under pressure there were most guys would
have urinated down their legs he did.

Speaker 3 (07:52):
I mean, you know, he makes the.

Speaker 8 (07:55):
Birdie on seventeen and then I mean you're thinking about
it right there, he's got the lead, he's going on eighteen.
I mean, Sean, how many times have we seen guys
have that situation? They try to do too much The
moment gets to on any of those different things, and
they duck hook the drive and they're trying to have
to scramble from there and it just doesn't go their way.
But I mean, good on him. Takes a deep breath,

(08:16):
fires one right down the middle, and at that point
I think he just said, look, Parr, I'm good both playoff.

Speaker 9 (08:22):
I think the last handful of US opens are more
that the person with the lead t and off on Sunday.
I don't think it's one with a certain amount of s.
I thought they said that yesterdays that to you. I
think it was specifically the US Open, not majors, but
the US Open to where that they went through a

(08:43):
list of names of people who had the lead and
by the time was over, didn't have the lead. You know,
we've seen an almost hell Scheffler if he makes he
missed like seven puts inside like three or four feet
and still had a chance and got on a run
yesterday and miss miss some putts. He was eight down
yesterday and the law the biggest I think in a

(09:05):
major or at the US Open, was seven down. We've
seen him at the US opme because I think Faldo
was six or seven down at a gust when he beat
nor Greg Norman. But to come back from that, and
if Scheffler just plays eighty five percent of him on
the greens, he probably wins and at least applies even
more pressure and hung in there. But the shots you

(09:25):
got to hit and the pressure you got to hit
him under and life changing event for JJ spawn yesterday.
And think how mentally at a course that can beat
you down even when you're in a good mood. You know,
we've all played when we go out in a good mood,
you play a couple good and you think, man, I'm
feeling good. But how about that when you come right
out of the choot and you're like, please, don't let
it be one of those days. It's raining, it's brutal weather,

(09:47):
you're tired, and now you got to hit all these
great shots to win. It'd be easy after you boge
first five, six, Okay, go to your life and he
just end up with your buddies. You bogee five of
the first six holes, and you're like you and you're
betting for one hundred, two hundred, three hundred bucks with
your buddies. I know it's different than there, but in
our world that's a big deal, right, And you're like,
I'm done. I'll see if I'm going into the nineteenth

(10:09):
holl I'm drinking it at the end of nine, not today, son,
I'm not a hell pebble. At first started out, My
first thought after the first two holes was like, no,
don't let.

Speaker 1 (10:19):
It be.

Speaker 9 (10:21):
Martin come around, right, But that's exactly what I'm thinking, like, Man,
after this, we play the seventh hole, dude, and it's amazing.
You're sitting there standing one hundred and five yard shot,
one hundred yard shot, looking out at the ocean, thinking,
of course you can hit it well. The pro struggle
with it then, so you go through that I'm staying
on the eight thinking this is a full blown fistfight.

(10:41):
But the beauty kept me from saying, right, just your
standout said, okay, I made bogie there, but see those
seals down there. It's a pretty cool day, and you
just start going through the shots that guys hit. But
can you imagine how mentally it would have been easy
to say I'm done. Man, No, that's today. I mean,
nobody expects me to win. I'm not saying they think that.
You know how it goes? Hell, you heard what mclroy said.

(11:02):
It was that he said after Saturday, after Friday, he said, well,
do I really want to be here and play over
the weekend through this? You know, honestly knowing he probably
wasn't going to win the tournament at that stage, and
you still got to go out there. And it's like saying, well,
I got no chance to win. Or you're like the
Harlem Globetrotters, the Washington you know, the team they always play.
You know you're getting a general so you know you're

(11:23):
getting your brains meeting, but you got to go play
it for the four hundredth night in a row. I mean,
even the major winners like I really want to go
out here Saturday and Sunday and to slog around through
this nonsense. But the ones who slogged a little hard,
a little longer made one or two extra putts. And
there's no way Sam Burns thought he was shooting eighty
or whatever seventy eight or whatever was seventy eight, Yeah,
because it's a par seventy course, so brutal that Congrats

(11:46):
to those guys. It makes for a hell of a watch.
And I always like seeing the emotion new guys as
kids are there and stuff, and it's a great Father's
Day celebration and another new winner and a big major
that'll never forget. And you never know, dude, he may
how many guys have won one and never wont another one? Right,
And that one's that one's about as hard as it
is to win, well, because everybody in the world plays
in it.

Speaker 8 (12:05):
If that's the case, then I mean he always will
have that to his name of Hey, guess what you
see that trophy right there? All right, go go look
at twenty twenty five. You're gonna notice the name right
next to it. So he's got that. But I mean
it's also it can go the opposite way. I mean,
look at a guy Alexander Shoffley who finally won last year.

Speaker 3 (12:23):
Two majors now under his bike, right, all in.

Speaker 8 (12:25):
The same season where I mean, I mean, Phil was
one of those guys when he finally you know, slayed
it at Augusta and won his first major. But the
funny thing is I always thought that he'd at least
got in one US. The US was the one he
could never get right. It was always second or tied
for second at the US.

Speaker 9 (12:43):
Right, Yeah, especially especially a guy who's so magical with
like flat stick, yeah, and with a you know, spray's it, right,
you're talking about Michelson. Yeah, spray's the driver, which you
can't do at US opens, which was a problem. Remember,
he'd hit it, but he'd spray the driver. But the
truth is the guy coul probably hit three wooded venues
like that because he's so good around the greens and
so creative. But if that's of course, you'd rather hit

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it two eighty in the fairway than three fifteen in
the rough. And if you have to hit five iron
instead of your normal seven iron because the way the
ball travels down and then the fairways are wet, so
it's not moving. But like with the Mickels, in your
exact right, so creative around the green. The problem with
him was is you put him You put yourself in
a major bund if you can't hit fairways. So like
d Chambeau, as far as he hits it, these kind

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of events are mad. Can you hit your irons close
and make putts even if you're a mid range when
it comes to distance? Guy, right, think about it yesterday
three twenty in the rough you got to play out
sideways or if you go two ninety, yeah, which is
not long on PGA tour, but you're sitting in short
grass and those guys hit five irons just fine, thank you.

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If they can't hit a seven iron, but at least
you give yourself a chance. And I think that's a
big problem for Phil is the inability. And you know
how he is. He's a gambler about it, no pun
in ten, but sometimes were rarely right right and no
doubt and he knows that too. But to the point
where it's like, dude, if you just pick up three
wood here, you don't have to you don't have to
prove to people you can hit your drive. We know, yeah,

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we exactly proven it enough. Just just go hit a
three wood hit in the middle and then use your magic.
And sometimes he couldn't couldn't get out of his own
way in the big ones, but boy could he play
around the greens. But JJ spond did everything you need
to do to win resilience at the top of the list.

Speaker 8 (14:26):
Absolutely so it was a fun Sunday and no doubt
about it. And the Astros made it even more of
a fun that Sunday and the way they did it
well might surprise some, but it's not going to surprise us.

Speaker 3 (14:38):
We'll talk about it here is We're just getting going.

Speaker 8 (14:40):
Monday edition Sean Salisbury Show, Sports Talks seven ninety.

Speaker 3 (14:44):
This is the Sean Salisbury Show. Salsbury.

Speaker 10 (14:49):
That's beautiful.

Speaker 9 (14:51):
Dallas Mavericks stood up and said, we're gonna make the
worst trade you can imagine, and the Red Sox set
said no, no, no, no, hold my beer for a second,
go back to five years ago, and we gave up
at that point in time, the best player in the
American League and he was still is right in mookie
bets and for nothing, for the most part, would you
get for Dugo and a couple others and it ain't bets.

Speaker 3 (15:12):
I think the other two guys might even be out of.

Speaker 9 (15:14):
Baseball, right, and then you say, well, you know what,
let's see if we can we give him three hundred
He's what year two of a three hundred million dollar contract,
plus he's make this face fat. He's your best hitter
normally I think fifteen of his first nineteen at bats
or strikeouts, and the guy's now got over nine hundred
oh ps and Raken and then they sweep the Yankees
and you wake up to it and say, Mavericks, hold

(15:36):
my beer, we're gonna do something really worse. I know
Jordan Hicks those at like one hundred and forty miles
an hour. It's against astros, I think. So it's like, yeah,
I'd like it, and there's some prospects there, but at
some point in time you can't give up your best
players every all the time it expected to be there.
It's almost as if John Henry cares more about cut
and pay roll and the little bit. Maybe there was

(15:57):
a little bit of a headache with Devers because the
third base and the bregman, but you still go out there.
If he's doing his job and racing, I'll deal with
the headache as long as not a major distraction.

Speaker 8 (16:06):
They got a little moment I'm going now, you know,
a little.

Speaker 9 (16:07):
Confidence, and you wake up and they he's gone, So
like John herey do you want to win? It's it's
it's I actually borderline embarrassing. It's one of those year
for you in the NFL, I mean major League Baseball.
You look at and say, okay, well what are they
doing here? And I wonder if any of it came

(16:28):
from clubhouse upstairs as opposed to upstairs to downstairs. I
can't imagine even though he was a pain in the
ass about making the switch, that Cora had to go
into the front office and say, yeah, like, I can't
fathom that that that's the case. He maybe, like I said,
some guys everybody has a roster where there's you know,

(16:49):
guy's a pain in the ass, right, and but you
just deal with it. But then there's a time when
the headache and we know what kind of headaches those
guys are. We're not talking about the headache that's that.
I mean, the the bigger headaches were off the field
on it. It's just constant. Every time a contract comes
up in the meeting, just a constant.

Speaker 3 (17:05):
Whe every day.

Speaker 9 (17:06):
You got a babysit it Devers is a pain in
the ass, probably a little spoiled, but the guy can
rake and believing Homer yesterday, that's a nice way to
go out, right, was it his last about you said?

Speaker 3 (17:14):
I think it was.

Speaker 9 (17:15):
If it was, well, that's a nice way to go down.
You know your Homer and your last a bat is
a red Soxon. But and you beat the Yankees, just
sweep them. But and then now you're under we to
San Francisco. I just I can't believe that I woke
up to that. At first, I thought it was it
was fake, like when I saw Portnoy talking about this morning. Ah,
I'm like, what do you We can't even enjoy five
minutes and they trade devors. I thought it was just

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like being a smart ass, that they were just gonna
they're talking about trading devors after what happened to the beginning.

Speaker 3 (17:42):
Of the season. I'm like, nah.

Speaker 9 (17:44):
And then I see all the trending down, like you've
got to be kidding me. And I didn't want to
wake up to that, and I did. There's a lifelong
Socks fan and maybe it's just time. Well, I can't
say that because it's in my DNA to root for him.
But good gracious, now I want you to do this math.
Devers and Bets are still there. A little bit different

(18:06):
on that lineup. Yeah, Devers, Bets, Bragmann pretty good.

Speaker 8 (18:08):
I mean, even Xander Bogart's too. If you if you
keep Bogarts over Trevor's story.

Speaker 3 (18:13):
You know, yeah, I would have.

Speaker 9 (18:15):
I didn't even like the fact that they wanted to
move on from Bogarts in the first place. All he
did was at that point, I think the year before
he left it. The year before that he was an
MVP candidate for Most Year and a run producer, right right,
But regardless, it's neither here nor there. You know, I
was looking at the Astro stuff and we're talking about
the trade and things that drive us crazy too, mentioned
the astros, and I know you had teased the dozen surprises.

Speaker 10 (18:37):
Me.

Speaker 9 (18:37):
Let me just tell you a little bit. And I'm
not telling you. Abody even think they're under there. Forty
one and thirty now, Jordan's still not He's still not hitting. Yeah,
still still not swinging about right the middle. I liked
Yaner and moving up to the two to get him
more out. I like that show of confidence. And Cam
Smith continues to get stuff done as he did over
the weekend pain. He continues to run, hit, throw, do everything. Guys,

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the guys the starting shortstop in the All Star Game
normally normally in this case.

Speaker 3 (19:05):
Oh, I've thrown out the challenge. The gauntlet is down.

Speaker 9 (19:09):
Get it done. There's no doubt, and his energy has
been different. Gordon six innings, two runs, five k's on Friday,
Brown seven innings, two runs, twelve kse Saturday, Walter six
innings or six and six and two thirds, gave up

(19:30):
one run and struck out nine. That's a total of
what nineteen two thirds let's see twenty one twenty six strikeouts,
and they gave up five runs. I ain't got to
the bullpin yet. That right there, I don't care if
it was against the Twins or Louisville or University of Kentucky.

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That right there is the reason why they're going to
go on and win this division. And the rest is gravy.
Now you get yourd on back. Obviously got a hit.
You have to score some runs. But and two of
those names are by guys when the season started. There's
no frigging way you thought they were going to be
part of this, not even close. And Gordon and Walter
take care of their business. You get that all year long.

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You know what you're getting from Brown and fromber but
you're getting stuff, I mean, paradus and painting in the
leadoff spot and these pitchers and Gordon and Walter, and
we've talked about the bullpen. No, Jordan Walker's still hitting
in the low low two hundreds out two days, a
little bit up and down. You're starting a rookie and
right field, I mean, it's fascinating. Dude, du Bond gets

(20:37):
sacrificed by Cam Smith drives in a run. I mean,
somebody different. But take a look at the pitching staff.
You're not going to lose many games like this, I
don't care who what's against. And the Twins are going
to be in a position to challenge for the playoffs
in their division right now.

Speaker 5 (20:51):
You know.

Speaker 9 (20:51):
I mean, Detroit's had a good season, but the Detroit
and the Royals and the Twins Dan Cleveland, they just
kind of hang around, right and it's to hang around
and yes, Detroit, Well, why do you think Detroit's good?
Aside from the fact that they're hitting it better, but
why they're they're pretty good pitching right And if I'm
not mistaking it, didn't Flarerty go back. There isn't flaerity

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back in right now. And obviously with scoopl so pitch
it same thing here. You're getting it from a lot
of different people and it's not even the obvious ones.

Speaker 3 (21:22):
That is why.

Speaker 9 (21:24):
And the key is not a lot of runs this weekend, Dan,
But they got the what we've talked about for ye
and a half, what they haven't done enough of. Got
the timely hit. Whether it's the sacrifice fly, doesnen count
as the hit? But you know what to put the
ball in play Cam Smith's timely hit, I mean timely
hits that allow and you know, stolen base by paying
you to put him in position. Just you start to

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think about the little things that are enormous the foundation
of it. Well, yeah, you know the ball going out
of the ballpark. Fine, you pitch like this and get
a couple of timely hits. This team's forty one and
thirty and they haven't sniffed their best offensive baseball, not even.
But be grateful because like I said last week, give
me great pitching average hitting. I'm gonna beat you far

(22:07):
more than when you give me average pitching and great hitting. Well,
the other one travels better great pitching. That playbook played
out this weekend. I mean, because you talked about how
you were able to limit Minnesota and the run production
that they had.

Speaker 8 (22:21):
It was the same for you. You get four hits
on Saturday four and you score three runs, obviously it's
good enough to win a game. Timely, brother, you got
four hits yesterday and you're able to win the game.

Speaker 9 (22:31):
Matter of fact, you damn near had about as many
hits as Astros pitching. You know, those three. I mean, well,
put it this way, they gave up five runs. It
almost feels like the pitching staff gave I mean, gave
up more runs and the Astros got hits, you know
what I'm saying. Yet, the timeliness of it obviously led
to make it. And you never know when it's going

(22:52):
to rear its head and it could be extra innings,
and thank goodness, it was.

Speaker 8 (22:55):
It's almost like a really good college football program that
they go ten and two. I mean, there's programs that
are putting up banners in their stadium because they went
ten and two in a season.

Speaker 3 (23:04):
There's a printer too. They want to fire Ryan Day, right,
that's it, that's it. Yeah.

Speaker 8 (23:07):
I mean you get you get a team, they go
ten and two, and you get the fan base going,
how the hell did we lose two games?

Speaker 3 (23:12):
Yeah?

Speaker 9 (23:12):
And then you look and say, well, we lost to
Michigan or we lost the opener gets Texas or whatever,
say well, that's how because it's pretty good. Oh, we
want to fire the guy. A good thing you didn't
fire him because you hung on and got yourself a
national title. But exactly ten and two for some. But
you'll take the way they're pitching. Man, I don't know how.

(23:34):
It's a good problem, But think about when everybody's healthy,
somebody's get what are you going to do now they're
not healthy? So you'll take this anyway you can get it.
But it's pretty impressive to know that three of three
fists of your starters they were supposed to be starting
once the season started, are out and you're not sure
if you haven't discovered something in Gordon and Walter that

(23:54):
you're like, I don't know, all right, did we really
get the short end of the stick only? But he
could hurt you get my point? Right, it's it's it
was impressive. That's the thing that stuck out to me
over the weekend, just the way the two things. Timely
hitting even though it wasn't regular hitting, timely and when
you pitch like those three cats did two of the thirds,

(24:15):
which two thirds of them, which you didn't expect to
do this this year. You got yourself a hell of
a go. And I'm gonna tell you what, Hunter Brown
keeps doing this. There's a cy young least staring at him.
At the end of this year. Close he's going to
be in that he continues like this and Nationals win
the division.

Speaker 3 (24:31):
I don't I don't see how.

Speaker 9 (24:32):
First of all, we know he's an All Star, and then
the rest will take care of itself. But forty one
and thirty and haven't sniffed their best baseball. You'll take
that any day of the week.

Speaker 8 (24:40):
Absolutely, five and one on this homestand and now you
mentioned Hunter Brown. He takes no decision on Saturday. He's
eight and three with a one point eight eight e
r A.

Speaker 9 (24:47):
And by the way, we said, I said, get to
eight wins, nine wins, and you just had six. They're
already that's at five. Gonna get so. I mean, you're
staring at Dan. What could be that run where you
say they want twelve to thirteen they went, you know,
they went eleven of thirteen, right, so pretty impressive and uh,
hopefully they'll go in and make sure that these late

(25:08):
night games against Oakland don't keep them awake.

Speaker 8 (25:10):
You mentioned a good problem to have for Dana Brown.
Let's talk about it right here, because it is something
that I think me and you are both on the
same wavelength on and I will do that right here.
It is the Shawn Salisbury Show, Sports Talk seven ninety
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Speaker 3 (25:31):
Good morning, Brad, Hey, good morning guys.

Speaker 11 (25:33):
Real quick, happy but late a father's day, Same to you, Mas,
and ninety two dollars later. I thought my son was
paying for it, but that never works out. But anyway,
real quick. We discussed it back. I don't know right
when Bragman got traded. Uh guess what our free agent
not trade?

Speaker 1 (25:50):
Excuse me?

Speaker 11 (25:51):
Uh, Raphael Devers out that that that is awesome, awesome,
We saw it coming.

Speaker 1 (25:58):
Come on, you can't just sit there and that and
then nothing happens to you.

Speaker 11 (26:03):
I mean, he just counted like a baby and just
continued I'll hang up and listen, guys, enjoy.

Speaker 8 (26:09):
He appreciate the call, Brad. I mean, that is what
it sounds like. And there were reports to Sean that
the Red Sox that's what kind of was the preventing
sentiment at the end, was that Devers was a little
bit of a pain in the ass and they finally
just decided that they had quote had enough of him.

Speaker 10 (26:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 9 (26:30):
I also think that three hundred million dollars had something
to do with it too.

Speaker 3 (26:33):
I do.

Speaker 9 (26:34):
His contract is a big one. But you're not going
to convince Red Sox fans. I'm just telling you, go
go if you google devonstrate. And very few were saying
this is a wise move. And I've always said and
as a lifelong Red Sox guy, I can tell you
and it was bothered me too. It got to the
point where you said, Okay, is the headache bigger than

(26:55):
the talent? Ken is a headache bigger than the bat?
Is a headache better? Is it tougher to deal with
the headache than it is to deal with not having Devers?
Around and the truth is for me, like, but we're
not around it. From a distance, I thought, okay, it
started to where you're like, come on, Devs, you complaining

(27:16):
about everything, and then when they I'm absolutely not moving
to first base, you know, all those things, And I
get why that would be fatiguing. I do, but I
guess the timing of it, you know, I guess no
better time you sweep the Yankees, you can hoping you're
catching Red Sox fans in a good mood saying oh okay,
but you're losing a guy that gifts.

Speaker 3 (27:34):
It also.

Speaker 9 (27:36):
Has an impact on guys like Bregman and vice versa,
because he's in you know, he's sitting in that lineup
in the middle of it. So I think you you've
this is a big blow for the Red Sox. But
I don't know every day that goes on. If it's
a constant hip just not what we hear, but just
he's constant chattering in the clubhouse where it's just starting
to permeate through the roster, then then I get it.

(27:59):
I guess I'm just frush because can you trade somebody else?
Does it always have to be your best player? You know,
Mookie Betts Endeavors. But they didn't change Devs. I mean
they didn't trade Devers, I mean Bets because he was
an a loudmouth or a pain in the ass. They
traded him because they didn't want to pay him and
I ain't get anything for him for the most part.
And here it was, and you could see it. Yes,

(28:20):
you started to wonder when it was going to boil over.

Speaker 3 (28:21):
Now.

Speaker 9 (28:22):
I would have thought if the Red Sox lost fourteen
out of sixteen and Devors was hitting two thirty, different story.
But the way he's started, in the way he's playing,
you thought, okay, maybe they can overcome. And you know what, Listen,
you play in Boston. There's some guys that have been
fiery and fan base it's a love hate relationship sometimes
with players there. And they got to the point where

(28:43):
the frustration of Devors plus the money boiled over and
they traded him. I think it was just shocking of
the timing, and I don't think many saw it coming.
And after what had happened in the spring training and
getting Bregman there, I think you thought, okay, play a
little baseball, let's see if it just kind of goes away, right,
And I know Devers is around and complaining, but he
and still Rake, and you're losing one of the ten
best hitters in baseball every year. He's just one of

(29:04):
the ten best and has shocked a lot of guys
on different teams too. So yeah, you could see it
at least being entertained. I don't think any of us
saw it coming right now, especially after the swep of
the Yankees. I would have thought it maybe even earlier.
He said, Okay, he's a pain nass. He's not going
to fall in the line the way we need to
hear in the lineup, and Corus send it. I don't
think it was one thing in particular. Put it this way.

(29:26):
His attitude towards moving and the money he makes made
it easier for them to move him. Because if you're
going to move him, my biggest complaint is you got
to get more than that. You absolutely have to get
more than that. Well, I mean, look what the Astros
suppose he won that trade? Oh, I would think so,
I mean, look what the Astros got for Kyle Tucker.
I mean, all three guys and Wasnsky not as much

(29:49):
as the other two. But where would the team be
without East Sokperettas. I mean, we're talking about the offensive
utility this weekend out East socparettis that's a huge part
Cam Smith what he's been able to do already.

Speaker 3 (30:00):
That's how you do those.

Speaker 8 (30:01):
Trades when people all the time all prospects, prospects, prospects.

Speaker 3 (30:05):
We won them all.

Speaker 8 (30:06):
One or two of those guys might pan out, none
of them might pan out. You talked about the that's trade.
I mean, that's case in point. If you're going to
do a trade like this, the overwhelming majority needs to
be current impact players that are going to be coming
back the other direction.

Speaker 9 (30:22):
Or you get four prospects that are your second, your twelfth,
your tenth, and your twenty eighth best prospect and you
know two years from now.

Speaker 3 (30:32):
That it's going to be big. You don't know this year.

Speaker 9 (30:34):
Or that's my saying, yeah, but it's not like, well,
what's gonna happen nine years from now. It's like the
impact now and how quickly they're going to impact our franchise.
The all three of the guys were making an impact
here mm hmm. And you needed that because there are
some voids to fill. You're gonna have a void to fill.
You're losing a thirty five to forty home run bat,

(30:55):
A two seventy guy strikes out a lot little drive
in one hundred runs and we'll score one hundred runs
and being the MVP talk is a very subpar third
basement defensively.

Speaker 3 (31:05):
But his bat hit it. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 9 (31:07):
You did You basically didn't care because the guy raked.
I think this is a huge get by the Giants.

Speaker 3 (31:11):
I do.

Speaker 9 (31:12):
And it looks like Buster Posey's going on, and so
we're going to keep putting pressure on see what happens.
But whether it makes Devers happy or not. I understand
the headache that he brought. Was it a migraine or
was it just an annoyance headache. If it was a big,
big headache, I get why they did it. But if
you're just doing it to save money and get rid
of a small headache, take some tile and all and
keep that guy in the lineup. As a Red Sox fan,

(31:32):
I hate it. As a Red Sox overall thought process
of why they do it, I get it, but I
don't like it.

Speaker 8 (31:39):
Well, apparently I'm reading this CBS Sports article that he
had requested a trade during.

Speaker 3 (31:46):
Supreme training he did. Yep, yeah, so, and.

Speaker 9 (31:49):
You know at that point in time, they're probably like,
they will just settle him down. Wow, Rafis likes to chat.

Speaker 8 (31:54):
It's also too no matter how good you are at
the contract that's attached to you, there ain't going to
be very many takers that want to take you on.

Speaker 9 (32:01):
Right, and they get to the point San Francisco through
all the time, sure they did some due diligence, thought, well,
there's plenty of guys that are a little bit of
a pain in the ass. But will he come here
and shift his paradigms and just get into fit here
and be happy. He'll be weird if he's like, oh,
I'm happy to DH for you guys.

Speaker 3 (32:22):
Throw me over there, you know what, just to get
a dig in.

Speaker 9 (32:24):
It wouldn't shock me if he if he just just
stayed right in line right doing all this, because you know,
going there, who the third basement is he's a gold glover.
You know you're not playing third base and place him
and wouldn't think so, at least on the surface that
appears you wouldn't be because the one thing Devers isn't
ever going to be is a guy that you traded

(32:45):
for the glove, you traded for the bat. So we'll
see how big the headache is there, and if it's not,
maybe Raffi just wanted out of Boston, but I know
they loved him there, and you know they until the
chatter started. But as far as a player, the guy's
been their best hitter for well since Bets left well.

Speaker 8 (33:01):
And it's also some of the baseballs that he saw
go out of Fenway Park, they ain't going to do
that at Oracle. So that's the other part of it too,
is that the Red Sox I think look at it
as okay.

Speaker 9 (33:10):
We go the other way with that liftanned Batty want
to wall? You want to do this? Okay, Well, I
have to pull a lot of stuff.

Speaker 8 (33:17):
He may strike out one hundred and seventy five times
McCovey cove right there is a little deeper than uh
Pesky's pull out there in right field. But yeah, the
Red Sox pulling off that trade U the Astros conversation,
we'd been getting into it. This pitching has been unreal
and is it now a very very good problem for
Dana Brown to have. We'll talk about it here. It
is a Sean Salisbury show Sports SOX seven ninety.

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Speaker 2 (35:25):
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Speaker 8 (35:29):
Know, oh, by the way, when you've brought him up,
first start five innings takes a no decision, next start
six innings, same deal there, and then yesterday six and
two thirds takes a no decision. But you also, as
I pointed out on Twitter, you are happy for him
to not have to wear a decision on that because

(35:50):
you're like, come on, guys, really, God gave up one
mistake in this entire game one and you're going to
saddle him with a loss in this one. But the
ninth inning, the astros, No, no, no, We're not gonna
do that. At the very least, you're getting a no
decision today.

Speaker 3 (36:05):
Take care of it.

Speaker 9 (36:06):
And the fact that talk about resilience, you held down
the entire time and get your two runs and two
innings right ninetheenn't clutch extra innings, clutch, take care of
your business. Hey, sometimes it's not how many you get,
it's when you get them. And they got them. Their
timing was impeccable over the weekend, even though it wasn't
you know, ten to ones, fourteen to three, and seventeen
to seven. The football score they got the I'll take

(36:29):
two to one when it's done right and you get
a great pitchy like that, and they did, which makes
it five to six and they're five of their last
six and also puts them obviously in first place where
they've been. It keeps them there and at forty one
and thirty all that they've been through. This is one
of baseball's better stories. It really is. It really is.

Speaker 3 (36:51):
It's not because we're here, it's just a fact.

Speaker 9 (36:54):
Very few teams can go through what they've gone through
and still not only with standard, but actually excel. Take
the best player off every team.

Speaker 3 (37:05):
It's rare they'll be doing what they're doing.

Speaker 8 (37:07):
And it's I actually thought about that this weekend because
I feel like twenty twenty two winning the World Series,
that should have put to bed all of the you know, cheaters,
all of the other types of things that people through
and we all collectively roll our eyes at that, but
I mean that seemingly did not do it. The Astros
have any modicum of postseason success this year, it needs

(37:29):
to completely put it all to bed. Because your talking
points are all the way moot at that point, because
you don't even have a fraction of the amount of
guys that you had from those teams still in the building.
There's one guy that was part of it, and he
wasn't even part of it in that point on the
record as not even being part of it, right, and

(37:50):
still wears it from fan bases because for the most part,
fans can be morons as their business and an everyday player.

Speaker 3 (37:56):
Who else was here? Nobody else think about that first.

Speaker 8 (38:00):
The only other person that was on those teams was
Lance mccullor's junior, and Lance mcculler's junior did not benefits
from it.

Speaker 3 (38:06):
Because he wasn't at the plate bingo.

Speaker 9 (38:09):
So one one, yeah to me, that's when when when
they won the World Series in what twenty two you said,
m h to me, you can focus. If you're going
to focus, you go ahead and focus on seventeen if
you want. But to keep the guilt by association thing
doesn't work in with they they've that that to me,
that's a standalone you can you can do whatever you

(38:30):
want you want to argue over that with people then
made their own bedsleep in it self inflicted all that
stuff other teams are doing it. Argument you can't look
and say you get there is zero argument.

Speaker 10 (38:41):
Now.

Speaker 9 (38:42):
They're taking care of their business the right way and
have been and and they're kicking ass and playing really
good and every year they're going to be staring with
an opportunity to not only get into the playoffs, win
the division, but also be a World Series team that
the American League's wide open, and the Astros pitching will
get them as good a chance as anybody.

Speaker 3 (39:01):
In the American League with the way they are right now.

Speaker 9 (39:03):
By the way, speaking of pitch, and o Tani goes tonight, yes,
all first time in a minute, Yeah, against the Padres.
That'll be it's Podres, I think right, it is probably
pretty cool and you can see it on MLB Network tonight,
so that'll be, Uh, that'll be a pretty cool to
see him back. Wonder what his ramp up is and
his velocity. And we know he can hit, and we
know he could pitch. It's just been a minute since
we've seen him pitch. It should be a fun watch.

Speaker 8 (39:24):
And I mean, speaking of Gordon and Walter, the way
that they've pitched, I mean, all of a sudden, if
you're Dana Brown and you're sifting through scenarios for trades.
I mean we've heard him talk about adding another arm
or even a left handed bat to this lineup. I
mean he can probably go back to his staff and say, hey,
you know, we can kind of give ourselves a little
bit of a runway with these two lefties.

Speaker 3 (39:45):
We got no doubt.

Speaker 9 (39:46):
And if you're an opposing team, aren't you saying, well,
we know you have injuries, but every time these guys
go out and pitch, well, now, you may not want
to part with them at all, but it sure does
raise it to the point where other teams are willing
to get up more to say I'll take that young pitcher,
you know what I'm saying, especially if you get healthy
and you're.

Speaker 3 (40:04):
Like, what are we going to do with this guy?

Speaker 9 (40:06):
It's a great asset and a good problem to have.
But I don't think that.

Speaker 3 (40:12):
Listen.

Speaker 9 (40:12):
You can scout all you want, and Dane is great
at it and understanding personnel. There's no way you could
have felt that these guys were going to hit the
ground running like they have. Meaning the other guys that
you didn't expect, I mean, you may expect some time
from them, but you expect those six and two thirds
and getting six things here and giving up one run
and striking out nine eight, those weren't You didn't have

(40:33):
those expectations. If you did, they would have been starting
out of spring training or would have been a part
of it right away. So pleasant surprise, but also opens
eyes elsewhere to give you a chance to if you need.
You got assets now that maybe somebody you didn't know
about at the beginning of the year, they know now
because they're performing, which allows you if you do need

(40:53):
to make that deal, you have current roster guys that
you're able to move if necessary. And as Steve Sparks
said that that's some of the things is he said
last week, some of the things current roster guys depending
on the move, and he even had mentioned if you're
the astros and the assets and giving them up, what
big move are you really going to be prepared to make.
You're still winning, you know your Dan's coming back, so

(41:14):
you may not want to go get a high price.
And then and there's a price that comes with trying
to go get into a thumper left handed side right.
They may it may just be a minor move, it
may not be one of those wow factor moves.

Speaker 3 (41:27):
I could see that.

Speaker 8 (41:28):
I think mentally, you prepare yourself for that scenario. It's
it's gonna be something that you're just like, oh okay,
I mean, you know, looking at his stats, decent enough player.
But it's not going to be, you know anything, an
it's not gonna be at the Red Sox just dead
there you go, right, yeah, yeah, it's not. It's not
gonna be something that's going to have you believing that
immediately you can start planning the downtown parade.

Speaker 5 (41:49):
Bob.

Speaker 9 (41:49):
If that's the case, I'd say I would have told
the Red Sox co trade for dumbs. Yeah, you got
left handed power at the plate.

Speaker 3 (41:55):
Take of here.

Speaker 9 (41:57):
I don't care if you if you stick him as
a you know, it's out in the bullpen.

Speaker 3 (42:01):
As long as he can hit, I don't care what
he does.

Speaker 9 (42:03):
But in truth, if that was the case, if you
really going for that, he'll jump into that fray. I'm
not even sure anybody knew this was coming down the
pike though I had.

Speaker 8 (42:12):
I had zero inclination that was gonna happen. I had
least that urgent right right. Yeah, So Bob Randall, see
you guys, right there. Get you guys involved in the conversation.
You mentioned Sparky. He scheduled to join us in an
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Speaker 10 (45:15):
Hey, good morning guys, and it is a good morning.
The last time I talked to you, guys was pre
season and I had a little debate with Sean about
the Bregman signing in Boston. I saw the opposite side
and again we're on the opposite side with the Devers name.
Uh you know, of course, being Red Sox man. There's

(45:37):
no right or wrong, it's just disagreement. But the whole
deal is that Deveres was not really what I consider
a teammate. Uh watching the Dynamics, I watched pretty much
every game, and when he's sitting on the bench, he's
kind of isolated. Even again yesterday, the only one sitting

(45:59):
with him after US home run was Brian Bailee, and
he just looked miserable the whole season. And you know,
I don't think they wanted to keep that around. This
is just my opinion, of course, you know, looking at
it from outside looking in, you know, he just didn't
look like he fit in that dugout.

Speaker 9 (46:19):
And Bob what part of we on the opposite page.
I don't like it because I think Devers is a
hell of a player. But as I said, I'm not
there every day, so I don't know how much of it.
I mean, I know, on the surface, when a pain
in the asset's been dealing with bragman coming in and
moving positions and him talking, I get that part of
why it would get tiring. But I'll also say this,

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I think body language is overrated. I heard the same
thing about Eli Manning he went on won two Super Bowls.
I well, maybe guys don't I don't know I mean
after he hit a walk off home run, I see
teammates jump out of the dugout and celebrate the hell
out of it with him, you know, at that home plate.
So yeah, he may not be a beloved teammate. Bob,
you may be right, but I wouldn't get too caught up.

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And who's sitting next to a guy. Hell, if a
pitcher's pitching, a lot of guys don't want to sit
next to him because the Randy Johnson in the world
didn't want to talk to anybody. So maybe Devers has
that feeling. I don't know, but I do get the optics,
and his optics bother me. Well, he said it on
the show during that spring training. It did bother me
the way that he kind of pouted about it. He's
got three hundred million dollars go play baseball, But to

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get what they got for him, I thought they got screwed.

Speaker 3 (47:28):
They got a host.

Speaker 9 (47:29):
I mean, if you don't mind the trade, okay, So
they got tired of the headache and the money, Okay,
you move him for that. Hell, it wasn't as if
they had to pull off a miracle. You call the
Giants and buster pose sa Hey, we'll trade it for this.
If you're a buster posey, hell, I'd have to do
any work. Of course, I'll trade Jordan Nicks and a
few other people for Rafael Devers. So they definitely weakened

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a team yesterday. Whether weekened a clubhouse, who knows. But
I can tell you this, the Red Sox are not
better without Rafael Devers.

Speaker 3 (47:57):
That's a fact.

Speaker 10 (48:00):
I get they're gonna miss the bat, that's for sure,
you know, but they do have And I said the
same thing about Gregman. They do have some up and
coming guys agree, the Roman Anthony, the Rosselo Mayer, Christian Campbell,
you know. So it's good that they now have a
little breathing room to play. Fine, I understand you know

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that long term bat. No, I will never forget Rappie
hitting that home run off of a roll As Chapman
that changed the Red Sox.

Speaker 3 (48:30):
World, no question. And you you're right too.

Speaker 9 (48:33):
I mean, we know he can play, but it does
free up and thanks for the call, Bob, some freedom
to play, and they've got some really good young players
in the organization. I'm just I guess for me, I
just wasn't. Maybe it's because it was such a surprise
wouldn't been a surprise. A month ago, it felt like
it had calmed down, even though the Red Sox been
kind of Dow Jones in it. It's Devers and he
paid them all that money and you're in the early
part of that contract. But maybe, like I said, stuff

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we don't see. Sometimes they're just guys that just it's
just never gonna work out the way you wanted to.
And in the long run, maybe it'll be a better deal,
but right now they're not better.

Speaker 3 (49:04):
But he is right.

Speaker 9 (49:05):
That frees up some good young players to get into
the lineup and some point in time the hassle just
becomes too much. But I also think that John Henry
doesn't like to spend a.

Speaker 3 (49:14):
Lot of money.

Speaker 8 (49:15):
Well, it's also I mean, at least for us locally here,
the Astros have proven that you can, let you know,
stand out talent walk out the door and you've got
somebody behind him.

Speaker 1 (49:23):
Right.

Speaker 8 (49:24):
Not everybody has that, so to me, and that's been
you mentioned the Mookie Bets trade. I mean, that's been
something that set them back a lot because of trading
away one of the guys that was one of the
best players in baseball.

Speaker 9 (49:36):
It goes back and that it does tie into this.
Think about it of the Red Sox. Can they overcome
bets endeavors? It was tough enough to overcome bets and
deal with that, right, and so can they do this
and overcome this and keep going, which points back to
the expertise in the way that the Astros have been
able to do this and sustain winning hard to do. Man,

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I guess maybe the shock value here takes me more
than just the player, because I loved evers game offensively,
but just the fact that you know, even through the headaches. Now,
of course they're not gonna trade him. Now, They're gonna wait,
this is this is not a June trade type thing, right,
How are they going to do before they do they
eliminate themselves? Do they hang around or they in contention
by It's kind of like what the Astros did with

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Bregman last year, even though he was going to walk
here and Devers isn't, but just kind of play it
out and say, we're.

Speaker 3 (50:23):
Fifteen games out, let's move the guy.

Speaker 9 (50:25):
But you know they're on a winning streak and that
divisions are going to be up and down all year long,
and I just I guess I was a little surprised
to wake up. Maybe it's that somebody else saw coming.
I don't think many in baseball saw it coming at
the time it came. And I think the bigger shock
is what they got for him. You're dealing with one
of the ten best players at the play in this league.

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I think you part of that. That's either a really
big headache that you just said, move him no matter what,
or move him no matter what, because not only is
a headache, but the money's just too big to deal
with the headache. So let's go see what we can get.
But it ain't like it took a long negotiation. If
you're the Giants as we are on the surface right now,
you won that trade, as we said today, We'll see

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if that's the case three three years from now, two
years from now, for sure.

Speaker 8 (51:11):
Someone three two and two five seven ninety Randall and
Sugarland wants to weigh and good morning Randall.

Speaker 15 (51:16):
Hey, good morning guys, Happy Father's Day. I like to
commit the ASTROS organization for doing such a great job,
and I like to command you shun because I listened
to radio commentators and television commentators and one of the
callers called in and I it's just my opinion is

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that he was operating out of emotions and feelings when
he made his comment. The one thing I can say
about you, Shun is that as a commentator of sports analysis,
you don't make comments out of emotions and feelings. You
may comments out of facts and truth. And I enjoy
listening to you real.

Speaker 3 (51:59):
Thank you. That means a lot to me. I don't
take that compliment lightly. Thank you, And I.

Speaker 15 (52:02):
Think that you should be on a larger platform because
what you say is.

Speaker 8 (52:07):
Solid thinking, it's true.

Speaker 15 (52:08):
Appreciate you don't operate out of feelings and with the
with the Devs, thing is is that you know you're
gonna always maybe have a Dennis Rockman type player on
a team, right.

Speaker 1 (52:21):
And that you have to deal with. But you have
I deal with people.

Speaker 15 (52:24):
Based on their character, just like sometimeing folks I deal
with them sometimes, So you have to learn how to
deal with people in character. And then you know, maybe
he has ran his course. He stated that he wasn't
a first baseman, and you know, we know that Bregman
is a better third baseman than Devas is with the

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glove and and Devils may have a little advantage over Bregman.

Speaker 1 (52:49):
With the back.

Speaker 15 (52:51):
But I'm like this, man, if I'm in a contract,
I'll try to live the contract down. And some of
these guys get spoiled and and feeling as though that
they can you know, I just can't on my job.
They have to transfer me. I just can't say, well,
I want to go to this location of that location.
I have to be approved to fit into their location.

Speaker 1 (53:13):
And I think must opposed to the other.

Speaker 15 (53:15):
General manager will play together, I think for the Giants,
but you know, the Astros. I think that the Astros
is gonna be a team to.

Speaker 1 (53:25):
Be reckoned with.

Speaker 15 (53:26):
And I'm very curious about what they're gonna do with
your Dom, because if these bats keep hitting, he.

Speaker 1 (53:34):
May be a blockbuster trade.

Speaker 15 (53:37):
But I don't think that the Astros is going to
give up him for crumbs.

Speaker 1 (53:45):
And I believe, I.

Speaker 15 (53:46):
Believe because they're gonna make good decisions because they have
a first, they have a great owner, and they had
he's a he has a brilliant mind and I've watched
him throughout the World Series years and building that organization,
and you know, I commend him for that, and uh,
but I believe you're done is gonna be on the
chopping block because the Astros if they get twenty games

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up and these young people keep hitting like they are, man,
you know you have to you have to sometime. You
have to tear down and reveal at the same time.
But you have to make good, solid decisions. So you know,
That's what I wanted to say. And I also think
that the Texans are building a super Bowl team if
they could just stay healthy.

Speaker 1 (54:32):
And hey, let's rock and roll.

Speaker 15 (54:34):
But thank you, Sean, you you solid and no other
sports talks. I turned the radio off when you guys
go off.

Speaker 3 (54:40):
Thank you, man.

Speaker 9 (54:41):
I appreciate it very kind. I appreciate that great compl
of Mi Randall. We'll discuss by Jordon when we come back.
But I think there are people that I've heard other
stuff on Twitter, people say that which I don't think
is gonna happen. And the one thing, and Randall knows,
it's the difference between nevers and and Jordan. There's quite
a few things. One is that Jordan doesn't complain or

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outlandish and Randal's one hundred percent correct for three hundred
million dollars when we go get somebody else to better
the team. That's my biggest issue with him. We went
out and bettered the team with Bregman. If you're a
Red Sox fan, if you're really a teammate, you say, yeah,
we're better. Oh, let's go. Of course, you can just
look at the metrics say he's better third basement. So
how do I help? And at three hundred million dollars,

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I understand you want to protect you. That's your baby,
but sometimes you got to have a second one, and
the second one's either first base or DH and just
deal with it. And for three hundred million dollars, when
my manager comes to me and says we're better defensively,
we obviously love you in the middle of lineup.

Speaker 3 (55:38):
You're versatile.

Speaker 9 (55:39):
The fact that they giving enough comments they feel they
could play you at first base, which you do as
you say for three hundrellion dollars, I may not be
a first base mom, I'm gonna learn to be one
or a DH. You just deal with it, and some
guys just can't handle it. And that's the biggest there's
I think there's an immaturity with Devers that exists that
in the guy we got here doesn't. The only thing
with the guy here is is the health, long term health.
That's all you can You're not concerned about it attitude

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or anything else. And we'll discuss. But I understand what
Randal's saying, but I don't think I mean, can you
imagine what you'd have to get to validate if he's healthy,
with the bodies you'd have to validate to get Jordon
to trade him, and what you have to get in return.
I think that they're probably thinking, we're doing all this,
imagine what it's going to be like when a hot
Jordon comes back. I think Jordon's safe from a trade,

(56:23):
but maybe something you may think different. But it would
take a lot for me to have to move him,
and one would be that I didn't think he was
going to be healthy his whole.

Speaker 3 (56:29):
Career, so do that.

Speaker 8 (56:31):
And also who hasn't been kicked out of a bar
and then released a wild animal in there as retaliation.
We'll talk about it here on The Sean Salisbury Show
Sports Talk seven ninety.

Speaker 3 (56:42):
The Shawn Salisbury Show continues.

Speaker 1 (56:45):
And it no no now you know, all right.

Speaker 3 (56:53):
Sean, what are you hearing out there now?

Speaker 14 (56:56):
The Salsbury's takeout Salsburys take out on the Sean Salisbury Show.

Speaker 8 (57:11):
It is Sean Salisbury show Sports Talks. Seven ninety Astros
walk off winners in ten yesterday beat the Twins two
to one.

Speaker 3 (57:18):
They sweep that series.

Speaker 8 (57:20):
Ruffey Old Devers traded from the Red Sox to the
Giants and Jay that's.

Speaker 9 (57:24):
Out of the fake news. You sure didn't wake up.
Is he really going to be a giant? And he
is going to be a giant? Did Buster Posey laugh
his way through the trades?

Speaker 8 (57:34):
Say for the you think that's one of those two
where you know he's in maybe uh, you know, the
room with all of his you know, lieutenants and everybody
there of saying, hey, you know what, let's just call.

Speaker 3 (57:44):
Let's let's just call and see what they say.

Speaker 9 (57:46):
It's not gonna work, right, Yeah, and he puts he said,
hang on a second, let me put your guys on
a hold, hang on one second. Sid He looks the guys,
they're they're gonna give his do this, They're gonna do this. Yeah,
that's why we have to, you know, you drive back
from the West because I'm like, I'm exhausted, tired. Maybe
if I wasn't, you know, tired, or had I had
been here the last couple of weeks and not doing

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the show for the road, be like, Okay, man, I'm
gonna dive deep in this. I at first I smirked, like, really, don't,
don't feed me through this crap.

Speaker 3 (58:16):
There's no way they did that.

Speaker 8 (58:17):
I had to make sure because I mean, there are
you know, sirty accounts and all of those songs like
no way. But then I saw passing and all I
was like, Okay, it's like.

Speaker 3 (58:27):
You gotta be kidding me, man. I didn't. I didn't.

Speaker 9 (58:30):
I had the bingo talk of trade, but I didn't
have anything like go there for that. The media on
a Sunday heading into a Monday after sweeping the Yankees,
that's not what I had. I guess maybe they thought
it was like a bear. You get a little little
media doe you had dumped three hundred million dollars at
your best hitter, and say, oh, we did it over
the weekend.

Speaker 3 (58:49):
Hopefully get a.

Speaker 9 (58:49):
Lot for what matter of fact, you just made o
Tani's pitching the night and this becomes the lead news
and the Giants got better and the Red Sox, at
least on the surface, got worse.

Speaker 3 (58:58):
But just go to show you and you know what,
the one thing though that that I do like.

Speaker 9 (59:05):
They weren't willing to let player empowerment disrupt what they
feel they have going. If you can move your best
hitter for that which you got in return, I'm talking
about the on the urgent. Now, what's going to help
you today? Hicks may go in there and pitchwell, who
the hell knows. But when you're willing to do that, Jim, maybe,

(59:25):
just maybe it got to a point where you said,
you know what, it's just not going to work.

Speaker 3 (59:33):
Kind and the.

Speaker 9 (59:33):
Player in power where you know, normally it's like, well,
let's get rid of the managers, let's get rid of
the coach. Because you got to a point he said,
now you know what, we pay you a lot of money,
you got a lot of years left on this deal, and.

Speaker 3 (59:41):
You're our best hitter.

Speaker 9 (59:42):
But now coupled that with that, and we feel like
it's in the long run, it's going to be better
for us. And I don't hopefully it's not the Red
Sox admitting that they don't think they have a legitimate
chance this year. I hope they're not admitting that in June.
But to move a guy like that, it's there. It
has to be a bigger pain in the ass on

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the stuff. We don't see that, whether it's little digs
or comments, whatever it is that they squel check because
normally that squeaky wheel stays and gets the oil and
and somebody else gets the wrath right and in this
case like no, we're getting rid of our best player.

Speaker 3 (01:00:17):
It's like what, yeah, your best hit or at least should.

Speaker 8 (01:00:21):
I say so what we talked about with Jordan will
full stop. It's not happening. It's not even remotely being
kicked around. Here's what happens, Randall. When he comes off
the il, he's right back in the middle of the lineup,
hitting number three or number four. That's that's where Jordan
Alvarez is.

Speaker 9 (01:00:37):
Yeah, and I think I think more as I read
through it from Randall saying, because you know, he gives
a lot of good info when he comes on, a
lot of good opinion is I think for Randall, I
think part of it is the impressed with you know,
when you get a Dezenzo comes in and does his
thing the way cam Smith is started up here. Camp
Smith looks like an everyday right fielder, now, doesn't he?

(01:00:59):
I mean, start to get into a rhythm hit and post.
I mean on the north side of two fifty.

Speaker 8 (01:01:03):
I think that how much that Joe was asked, would
he be a possibility if you're gonna be without paritis
over at third base, and they said no, he's now fielder.

Speaker 9 (01:01:10):
Yeah, full time guy now and making catches, you know,
dive one way, make a throw, go above near the
wall to catch one.

Speaker 3 (01:01:16):
Really, it looks comfortable, looks like he's not playing like
a rookie.

Speaker 9 (01:01:19):
Let's put it that way, and in time, but it
just certain guys just takes a minute, and aren't we
glad he's learning on the job. So yeah, man, I
think I think Randall, there's kind of a it's kind
of a compliment to the young guys saying we're doing
some really good things, and maybe the urgent message to
Jordan to get him back. But I think this team
realizes in order to really get where they want to go,

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and thinking the pitching can do this every day the
rest of the year. At some point they're going to
get into a little bit of a lull. Happens to
every staff, right, may not happen the whole staff, but
it'll feel like it does because they'll go through a
couple of games like that is when it's all said
and done, if you're going to roll through and deal
in the postseason with some good American League teams, but
also if you're gonna win the whole thing. There's a
couple of teams out West and the team in Philly,

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and there's a team that are pretty good.

Speaker 8 (01:02:04):
That you're going to have to have him when healthy,
and he's going he's one of the best hitters in
all of baseball.

Speaker 9 (01:02:09):
Well, well, two of the guys were talking about mainly
this morning, Endeavors and Jordan for different reasons. I assure you,
I don't even think it's it's debatable. They are two
of the ten best hitters in baseball. They just are
for different reasons and their approach is different. But you're
dealing with both, and the difference is I don't think

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Jordane ever complains that he's playing left field or dhing.
Devers was a pain at third base, a pain at
first base, but he made up for it because you're
willing to deal with it for a minute because of
the bat. Well, when he started off, you're like, well,
if I'm dealing with it the headache, the talent better
shine through if I'm going to deal with this and
some teams Randall said it. Every team has a guy
kind of like that, some just a little more, a

(01:02:52):
little louter. It tells me deep down that they're disdained
for the way he approached it, along with the money
that they felt it was just too much to deal
with on a regular basis, which is a bummer because
when Bregman went there, Devers could have invited that in
and made it more convenient for everybody. And when your
star's doing it that way, I like the message at

(01:03:13):
least that they sent that way. It says no, no, no,
the players don't run this organization. They do, even though
I don't agree with what John Henry didn't trade him
for what they got for him, and when Breslok for
what they got. I don't know were they teammates. Were
Buster and him teammates at some point? I think maybe
in the past were they? Well, then it makes it
easier to deal with. We see the forty nine Ers
and Jets dealing all the time when Sala was there
right with Shanahan and Lynch.

Speaker 8 (01:03:34):
So I'm anxious.

Speaker 9 (01:03:36):
To see how this works for both organizations, because you're
giving away a three hundred million dollar player. Now, maybe
Jordan Hicks goes in and has an all star second
half of the season when that hits, But this is
different when you trade him. And I think it shocked
Red Sox fans even with the headache.

Speaker 8 (01:03:51):
Well, and you're on with the hand too. I think
it's twofold that it was not anywhere close to being
on him. Is the first one was the mixed messaging
and all so too of putting it out there, of well,
he tells us he's good, you know, and the medicals
check out. Then we're putting him back out there, and
then you misdiagnosed him and it's like, okay, So it
wasn't on him from the beginning. It was you guys

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not handling.

Speaker 9 (01:04:14):
This the right way, which means they're gonna MRI more
and image more and the rest of it. The whole
thing is, please, let's hopefully it's paying free the rest
of the year and he gets back in the lineup
and they produce more at the plate than consistently than
he had been even before, you know, he went on the.

Speaker 8 (01:04:33):
Aisle talked about it. With the pitching. The depth is
playing itself out right now. You're getting good stuff out
of those guys. I'd like some depth in this lineup.
I'd like to be able to get it back to
where you've got Victor, Krattini and Zach and Zenzo coming
off the bench for you, not guys that you have
to count on a daily.

Speaker 3 (01:04:50):
Basis That a great point.

Speaker 9 (01:04:51):
And if you get this pitching and Jordon comes back
and is the yord On we know I said at
the beginning of the year, you're not gonna run away
and high in this division. Hell, you get that kind
of pitching and the hitting picks up, what do you
consider run away and hide in September, you're up eight games,
double digits, ten seven eight. It'd happened the last couple
of years Coast in the one, right, it'd be nice

(01:05:13):
with you know, she sure got a better chance if
Jordan's hot in this pitching stage. But you've got to
prepare yourself that the pitching isn't going to be every
day like we saw this past weekend. So we'll see
and we can extend the steakout because I know you
had a.

Speaker 8 (01:05:26):
Oh yeah that I want to hear, oh yeah, oh yeah, no,
that's that's definitely coming Dennessee right there.

Speaker 3 (01:05:30):
You want to join them?

Speaker 8 (01:05:31):
Someone three two, one two five, seven ninety is the
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Speaker 9 (01:05:45):
Or it didn't quit asking for drinks, whatever one you
want to put it. But why, well, why arrest him
over a silly raccoon? I know they can be launry.
Well have you looked around our country?

Speaker 3 (01:06:00):
Yeah? We got other things to worry about.

Speaker 9 (01:06:03):
I mean, that's just now. Let's putting the raccoon was
putting somebody in armsway. How about just opening the door,
everybody get out of the bar for a second, get
the raccoon, shoot it out, stick the guy in a
lift or an uber, send his ass home, or let
him sleep behind the bar so nobody gets hurt. He'll
wake up the next morning miserable and hopefully it'll be
a lesson learned and everybody goes home.

Speaker 8 (01:06:23):
But I gotta hey, man, how dare you where's this?
Where is this? This is in Murray, Kentucky, Murray State?
There in Murray, Kentucky.

Speaker 9 (01:06:34):
Just I don't know, man, Maybe sometimes I, well, that
could have hurt somebody.

Speaker 3 (01:06:38):
Yeah, but it didn't.

Speaker 9 (01:06:39):
Okay, if you're sitting down there trying to pet the raccoon,
then that's on you.

Speaker 3 (01:06:43):
I was gonna say it's a wild animal, don't.

Speaker 9 (01:06:45):
I consider the source the guy's drunk, as Kevin oornand
say the guy was bare chested banging his chest. The
guy is drunk, put his ass to sleep, send him home,
and let the raccoon go out into the wild where
it belongs to.

Speaker 8 (01:06:57):
It happened at the Big Apple Grill. In bar's name
is Jonathan Mason. He's forty years old. That the police
say they had to forcibly remove Mason from the car
because he refused to roll down his window or exit
the vehicle during the traffic stop. And he was previously
asked you not to trespass on the bar's property.

Speaker 9 (01:07:17):
Right, Well, now that part. If you're getting behind the
wheel and you're drunk and you're not rolling down your
win now send you asked to Jaelsey, You learn that lesson. Yes,
I'm talking about if he just like slurn and looks like, hey,
look it by pet raccoon. And yes, if you're eating dinner,
you said it's a bar and grill, you probably don't
want a steak, and then all of a sudden say, well,
hopefully this isn't raccoon, it actually is a steak. I

(01:07:39):
get the safety. I'm it's you know, being hyperbolic. But now,
once the guy takes into the parking lot and sitting
in his car, you're the responsibility is not to let
him turn that ignition. Of course, send him in there,
let him take the overnight. I don't think you want
to keep him in there long. Let him get sober
and sit his ass home over a raccoon. Can you imagine? Yeah,
I got two months we had a raccoon in a
bar and grin. Yes, send the raccoon out in the wild,

(01:08:02):
don't do anything the raccoon leave it alone, didn't do
anything anybody any harm, and get your ass sober and
go home.

Speaker 8 (01:08:08):
One person was bitten by the raccoon, according to police.
Oh okay, because somebody probably yeah, yeah, yeah, so am
I supposed to be.

Speaker 9 (01:08:18):
Now I don't know if that was the case, because
now when the when the raccoon comes into the bar
and grill, Now the raccoon's in the in.

Speaker 3 (01:08:24):
Your space right when you go to the zoo and you.

Speaker 9 (01:08:27):
Stick your hand in alliance, then into the cage trying
to pet the line and you get your hand bit.

Speaker 3 (01:08:32):
Or at an alligator.

Speaker 9 (01:08:33):
You're going to one of those alligator places the floor
you can go look around, and you get your hand
bit off.

Speaker 3 (01:08:38):
That's a U problem. Okay, you're in their space. Leave on.

Speaker 9 (01:08:42):
But now, okay, so now that you're worried about Rabi's
and I understand, and now the sad thing about it,
you're probably gonna kill the raccoon, right, I think?

Speaker 5 (01:08:48):
So?

Speaker 9 (01:08:49):
Yeah, I got such a soft heart, dude, for when
I do it, I'm such so kind of pathetic with
my wildlife.

Speaker 8 (01:08:58):
I did.

Speaker 9 (01:08:58):
I like, when I see a turtle walk cross street,
I will stop traffic, put my flashers on and get
out and walk.

Speaker 8 (01:09:04):
I just not not for a time on the back.
But yeah, yeah, I just did.

Speaker 9 (01:09:08):
Or if there's water by walking down, its water, and
I'm thinking I'm thinking more about the raccoon than the
dude and the person who got bit, thinking, oh man,
are they going to kill the person? I mean, they
killed the raccoon because the person.

Speaker 3 (01:09:17):
Got a bit.

Speaker 9 (01:09:18):
But okay, now if the story goes on, okay, you
get bit. I understand the danger. What if kids are
in there, I get it, But I hope the raccoon
will let go and at the go get your raby
shot and make sure you're okay.

Speaker 8 (01:09:30):
Mason was arrested in charge with a second degree of assault,
third degree criminal trespassing at resisting arrest, and failure of
owner to maintain required insurance first defense. There you go
that one. But for the raccoon though, you know, it's uh.
I one time I didn't put the the lid on
our trash can on well enough, so I went out

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there to you know, pull it back after the trash
was picked up, and I heard something rustling in there
and just kind of nudge the lid just a little bit.
It came jumping out of there. Oh yeah, that's your
fault though, Yeah it jumped. It jumped out not at me, right,
but still it's just when you open it up. Yeah,

(01:10:13):
that's your fault for not closing the lid.

Speaker 10 (01:10:14):
Right.

Speaker 3 (01:10:14):
Yeah, it was me, give me one of these. It
was fine.

Speaker 8 (01:10:19):
Rocky ran off and Rocky was fine, you know, I
was yeah. Yeah, kind of reminds me, like, you know,
you almost wish that you could have the footage of
this and John Taffro will be watching, like, you know
how he and his recon crew was in the parking. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Like it reminds me of one episode. It was a
bar in Arizona and somebody had brought a horse. They
rode a horse into the bar and John was like,

(01:10:41):
they actually have a horse in there, and it's a
health issue. And then the horse freaked out, almost lost
its footing, pooped on the floor and he goes, oh,
that's disgusting health issue. You're gonna lose your bar, right,
You're gonna lose it. And then you're gonna have to
get horse in the bar.

Speaker 9 (01:11:00):
And then he's while he's holding some burger that's like
yeah that they that they the freezer's got. You know,
he's like left open by a trash can and it's
like you're actually putting you know, all the things he
does to do it. I could picture the raccoon and yeah,
maybe they need an upgrade, and the raccoon story would
be great for Taffor.

Speaker 3 (01:11:16):
I love where, you know, like especially with the food.

Speaker 8 (01:11:18):
He'll do it like with the owner right there, the
manager and they've just got like this, you know, poop face.
Look just because they're so embarrassed.

Speaker 3 (01:11:25):
Look at this burger. Would you eat it?

Speaker 14 (01:11:27):
Now?

Speaker 3 (01:11:27):
You wouldn't. What about these fries? It looks like a
great Walt Corps.

Speaker 9 (01:11:32):
And then he'll start he'll start and look at these
glasses or look at this one. He'll start throwing your
waisting boos. You might as well be doing this. And
he'll start throwing the bottles the one that cracked me up.

Speaker 3 (01:11:41):
He's just throwing money away.

Speaker 8 (01:11:43):
And while he's tossing and breaking bottles and stuff, oh yeah,
now close the damn bar. Yeah, I'll see you guys tomorrow.
I can't stand this. But then it's always too he
does he does the bad cop good cop things, so
because then it will be the second to last segment.
It's always sitting down with the husband and wife that
own the bar. I'm here to save your business. Like
he's almost doctor Phil at that point, but I want

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to help you save your business.

Speaker 3 (01:12:06):
This has been in your family for.

Speaker 8 (01:12:07):
Years because you want to you guys want to make
money off this, right, and he'll start talking it's like okay, yeah,
oh yeah. But he'll also he also knows how to
cuss one out and then take another one around the corner,
put his arm around him, say hey, I'm counting on
you to help me through this, right because you you're
a great leader. After you just m f I'm and
told they're the worst bar titters and borrowers of the history,
and that they had to shut it down and board

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it up.

Speaker 9 (01:12:29):
He goes and sleep. Son, he goes, I slept on it.
I'm gonna try to. Let's I think we can make
this work. Well, I got your new p PO system whatever,
it's the POP system, point of purchase PR, point of.

Speaker 3 (01:12:40):
Point of what's what's the stand point of sales? Sales?

Speaker 9 (01:12:42):
There you go, Yeah, point of sales and whatever its
p O, p P pup list.

Speaker 3 (01:12:46):
I don't care what. Yeah, point of sales. There you go.

Speaker 8 (01:12:49):
I've got two new service wells for you now at
your bar.

Speaker 3 (01:12:52):
It makes your bar look larger. Yeah than the computer?
What's it? Whereas and I do this too.

Speaker 9 (01:12:56):
It's like you go on there and you can and
you can you can test the test the liquor, how
much you've poured and stuff. Yeah, exactly, I've watched it
a few times there. Oh, I freaking love him, I do. Yeah,
I just don't want to cross him, look at this kitchen.
Oh the cross contamination, But dude, some of the way
that people are cooking in those kitchens with a what

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there with like ice, you know the ice that said
they've had the burger the meat in there's for like
four years and they're serving it. It's like it's got
like freezer burn on it. And he's like, what Taffer's class.

Speaker 3 (01:13:29):
One of the best ones he did. It was a bar.

Speaker 8 (01:13:30):
It was out and Katie, and it was these two
like bodybuilder guys that owned it. And I think one
of the guys was like a male stripper, and he
brought Victor Vegan horny. Yeah, he brought Vegas. Well, that's
the thing.

Speaker 3 (01:13:41):
That was one of them.

Speaker 8 (01:13:42):
He's like, they would do like strip shows and Taffer's like,
what the hell is there.

Speaker 9 (01:13:46):
While they're eating and drinking beer? Oh yeah, I'm sure
he felt that was really healthy.

Speaker 3 (01:13:50):
That's what he even was the first thing he brought up.
He goes, what the hell kind of client? Tell do
you think you're getting in this place?

Speaker 9 (01:13:56):
But you're so right where they're sitting in the suv
and sit in the suv and he's in one of
the seats and seats and they got called the bartender
that's going to help him in the you know, in
the back, and the person who's gonna help him in
the chef and they're like all shaking there.

Speaker 8 (01:14:08):
And he's talking like he goes, can you guys believe this?
And it's it's like they staked it out. They did
there for like it's like fifteen hours wait for Richard
and Martin went and Chuck Sheen to come out of
it or what's what's a uh, what's ma?

Speaker 9 (01:14:21):
What's Sheen's brother's name? The west of as him and
Dreyfus and you know, like when steak out and stuff
come out. But he changes his voice and then he
walks right in there and stands there in the whole
bar is like nervous, like, oh, here he comes.

Speaker 8 (01:14:34):
See if Taffer ever wants to use me as part
of like his recon crew, like our friend Tessa. I
think that she was used once. Awesome, Yeah, that she
was used as like hey, go in there, order one
of everything, all of that and.

Speaker 9 (01:14:47):
Maybe the taste test guy. Yeah, and then report back
to him where he walks because I've had it. See
you can't leave him. I can't leave him here doing
this anymore.

Speaker 8 (01:14:54):
That'd be the problem is I think I would break
character because I'd start laughingly. He could go save him
from this bar owner looks at me, Hey, don't look
at me serving me a microwave hot dog at a
hot dog specialty place. Yeah no, yeah, how was that burger? Well,
I think I'm probably gonna have massive food poisoning. But
aside from that, John, it was fine. Now that I

(01:15:14):
got Batchelism. Other than that, I'm really good. Yeah. Yeah,
Why you gotta watch out for trick and nosis. That's
what you have to watch out for. John Tafford American
treasure for sure. All Right, Dennis, I s you want
to get involved, We'll get you in on the conversation.
Get back into the astros too, because a lot of
good done this weekend, but maybe some bad news.

Speaker 3 (01:15:35):
We'll get to that.

Speaker 14 (01:15:35):
Here.

Speaker 8 (01:15:36):
It is a Sean Salisbury Show Sports Talk seven ninety.

Speaker 3 (01:15:40):
The Sewn Salisbury Show continued.

Speaker 8 (01:15:46):
The exemptions and majors and.

Speaker 9 (01:15:50):
Kids, daughters and wife getting to see him and just
I mean, now you're in the books. You you were
the best player in the world at the toughest times,
on the toughest course.

Speaker 3 (01:16:01):
He'll face this whole year period.

Speaker 9 (01:16:03):
If not the toughest course you'll face for the next
ten years until you play another US Open. The guys
at Shinnecock next year.

Speaker 8 (01:16:10):
No, it won't. And the guy damn near gave up
the game. He seriously last year he was at a
point where he almost said, you know what, PGA tour
life is not for me. It's time to move on
and do something else.

Speaker 9 (01:16:21):
And who was he watching? He said, he was watching Wimbledon. Yeah,
the movie Wimbled Wimbledon. Yeah, with the tennis player, and
he felt like it was his life, right, he said,
you know what it was. It was kind of a grinder,
but a journeyman tennis player, and he said he kind
of took it to heart. Well, he'd never won a major,

(01:16:42):
and he's been in position this year a couple of
times and lost in a playoff to McElroy at the
Players Championship, which some people call the Fifth Major. It
just goes to show he's playing pretty big in big
tournaments and when everybody else was getting sideways because the
golf course and the rain and the delay, and quite frankly,
just how tough was that guy played his best golf
in the worst of circumstances after going five out of

(01:17:06):
six holes to start bogie and still comes back and wins.
Had to have a little help from the guys at
the top. Scheffler missing putts. You know, I can tell
you this at no time this year now maybe on
a course like that, but you won't face another one.
Will Adam Scott and our guy Sam Burns shoot seventy

(01:17:29):
eight or seventy nine will play amateur golf basically again
this year on the final round. They're not shooting eight
over on the final round, both of them together in
that situation. So you had to have in Scheffler missing
putts and McElroy getting sideways early in the tournament even
though he had a good round.

Speaker 3 (01:17:47):
Yes, I mean craziness right. And here's JJ Spond.

Speaker 9 (01:17:50):
If you didn't know him, you do now, and his
ball striking at the end of his ability to knock
down putts and hit it close, he gave himself a
legitimate shot and hung right in there and finished under park.

Speaker 8 (01:18:00):
I heard one of the commentators call somebody a solid
ball striker.

Speaker 9 (01:18:03):
Was about to text you guys solid you know, well,
no kidding? Do you think getting paid to do this?

Speaker 3 (01:18:12):
Right?

Speaker 9 (01:18:13):
He's said, in the middle of the fairway, he's got
a five iron from about two twenty five. What's he
hitting five iron? Oh?

Speaker 3 (01:18:20):
Boy?

Speaker 8 (01:18:21):
What they let a great strike? Sounded great.

Speaker 9 (01:18:24):
If it's the right club, it's it's it's you'll hear
you know, bones of a hey, it's right. It's got
an aggressive line, right, that aggressive line. If it's the
right club, this could be really good. What a solid
ball striker? Well, no kidding.

Speaker 8 (01:18:40):
I always like the oh, this has got to go yeah.
I always like that one too, ye, this guy, this has
got to go up. No, and then you'll get one way.
Oh man, it looks like he's gonna miss it.

Speaker 9 (01:18:51):
Right, ball hits the slope on the right and goes
two feet from the cup, and you're like, well, you
got the right got the right break. Yeah, but yeah,
the solid ball striker, I would imagine if you're carrying
a tour card the majority of the time, you're a
solid ball striker, and it comes out of two things,
are you they most they can miss a few irons,
but can you scramble at a course like this?

Speaker 8 (01:19:09):
But can you keep it in the fairway? And can
you putt?

Speaker 9 (01:19:11):
And most of the guys couldn't keep it in the fairway,
and the shufflers of the world yesterday couldn't. It was
it was amateur hour putting for him throughout the tournament,
and spawn did all three great the last six holes.
Drove the ball well enough and when he hit it
in a bad spot, he was able to scramble, hit
it close enough to have a chance to two putt
or mc birdie or eagle and then make the putt.

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And he did. And that's why he's crowned. And it's
very few tournaments you won't see another tournament were what
was it, one guy under par at two under, well,
one guy under par the entire turw That's that's US
Open at its finest. It won't happen at the British Open,
it won't happen at a gust won't have any other tournament.
I mean, they were struggling for the for the most

(01:19:53):
of the weekend. You actually thought plus two plus three
was gonna win the tournament.

Speaker 8 (01:19:57):
It was tracking that way, especially when everybody was plus one,
that was at the top of the leaderboard. But anyway,
we get Steve Sparks for his Monday visits every single
week on a Monday at eight o'clock.

Speaker 3 (01:20:08):
We'll do that right here. It is Sewn Salisbury Show,
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Speaker 1 (01:20:38):
Okay, let's do this.

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Speaker 3 (01:20:45):
Dan Matthews host.

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This is the Seawan Salisbury Show.

Speaker 9 (01:20:54):
It's a it's six o'clock on the West Coast. I
don't want to hear any complaints. He's probably getting ready
to go play Olympic or something.

Speaker 1 (01:21:00):
Hell knows.

Speaker 3 (01:21:01):
Steve Sparks joints just he does every Monday.

Speaker 9 (01:21:04):
Uh coffee yet, Steve, is it hits six o'clock? You know,
Sun's bedroom, mean it's rising. Tell me what it's like,
what's in the coffee? Tell me what's going on with
the coffee. I've never asked you what kind of coffee
you like? I like my coffee like I like my
women energetic, you know, with a lot of caffeine in it.

Speaker 3 (01:21:20):
There you go. How about you, Steve.

Speaker 1 (01:21:21):
I think that's exactly where I thought you were going with.

Speaker 3 (01:21:24):
Yeah, of course you did.

Speaker 1 (01:21:29):
Hey, hout you like coffee?

Speaker 8 (01:21:30):
Yeah?

Speaker 9 (01:21:31):
Okay, so do you have Have you had one yet?
Since we woke your ass up out of bed, even
though you probably been up for a while.

Speaker 6 (01:21:37):
I'm surprised to find out it's fifty five degrees in
Sacramento right now. Yeah, so overnight, overnight it gets pretty cool,
and during the day it's going to get in the nineties,
you know, And I think Wednesday is supposed to be
ninety four, ninety five, but still overnight it's going to
get down in the fifties every night.

Speaker 9 (01:21:53):
Yeah, get a little nippy at night, great ideal, Absolutely, yeah, really.

Speaker 3 (01:21:57):
Steve, do you I'm just golf? Do you? Did you
watch any of you open yesterday?

Speaker 1 (01:22:02):
I watched part of it.

Speaker 6 (01:22:02):
We were on the plane when it ended, so I
didn't get to see all the stuff live that took place.

Speaker 1 (01:22:08):
But man, what of course, oh my man, how how
penal was the rough? I mean, that was ridiculous, brutal.

Speaker 9 (01:22:16):
We were lad Dan and I were laughing about, you know,
how the announcers were fer since your baseball announcement. I'm
trying to think what the comparison is when they cook
these golfers. Always a solid ball striker Steve and you
know he's like the eighth best player in the world, Like, yeah,
of course he's a solid that's like saying, yeah, man,
he throws one hundred and three. He's a solid, solid fastball.
A lot of a lot of vlo on the fastball

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at a buck three. Well, no kidding, so are they?

Speaker 1 (01:22:40):
This guy gives you a good.

Speaker 9 (01:22:41):
A b Yeah, that's exactly right, so us open JJ
spawn wins it. Speaking of guys, we don't talk much
about Steve and a good segue when we talk about
spawning with all those great players of grinding and out
and winning. Gordon's six innings, two runs, five k's, Brown
obviously seven innings. We talk about him two runs, twelve

(01:23:05):
k's and Walter six and two thirds nine k's, uh,
and well one run and none of them exactly walk
the bases loaded and put the bunch of free runners
on phenomenal pitching weekend. But two of those guys weren't
on the Bengo card in March. This team's getting a
lot out of some people, and this is a and
they haven't even played near their best offensive baseball. Steve

(01:23:27):
impressive pitching over the weekend.

Speaker 6 (01:23:28):
Again, I guess you don't want to take anything away
from those guys. The Astros won five and six Gordon's starts,
by the way, But what they do to draft these
guys and find out what makes them really good.

Speaker 1 (01:23:45):
Is the most impressive thing to me.

Speaker 6 (01:23:46):
The way they're able to turn these guys and Gusto.

Speaker 1 (01:23:50):
You mentioned, Gordon and Walter.

Speaker 6 (01:23:52):
Those guys allow them to have this six man rotation
to get him through these tough stretches and allow Brown
and from her Valdez to get an extra day rest
to keep them up right. You know, you can't, you
can't put enough importance on what they've been able to do.

Speaker 1 (01:24:09):
It's just this machine.

Speaker 6 (01:24:10):
That they have, and I think there's a lot of
guys that go into it, but the scouts, you know,
drafting these guys to get Brandon Walter, I mean, it
takes somebody in the front office that's going out there
looking for acquisitions and seeing somebody who's available and seeing what's.

Speaker 1 (01:24:27):
In there to make them even better. Just it blows
my mind.

Speaker 6 (01:24:32):
Hell, they're able to do that so well, in the
pitching department especially, So that's what they're going to hang
their hats on. When you look back at this unbelievable
run that they've been on all these years, it's it's
the pitching, you know, and how they're able to make
these guys better has been the secret.

Speaker 1 (01:24:51):
Sauce.

Speaker 9 (01:24:52):
Steve Fox, Astro's broadcaster, joins us weekly at eight o'clock.
Havem on today as we always do. He's an Oakland
four game series against the Athletics, five of six in
these first two series here in a what thirteen straight
and only one team was playing above five hundred baseball Steve, Well,
they didn't come in bunches at least over the weekend

(01:25:15):
for the most part. But something that people have complained about,
and we said the timely hitter and most runners in
scoring position from last year getting a little bit more
of it this year. But now over the weekend wasn't
so much a lot, but it sure was efficient when necessary.
Timely hitting will be important the second half.

Speaker 3 (01:25:30):
Of the season.

Speaker 6 (01:25:31):
Yeah, I mean, guys are still learning camp Smith is
getting better as we speak and starting to learn himself,
and how guys are trying to attack him is just
going to be back and forth all that time.

Speaker 1 (01:25:42):
But all this being said, to do what they've been
able to do.

Speaker 6 (01:25:46):
I think keen and three in June now without yord On,
I think there are ten games above five hundred.

Speaker 1 (01:25:52):
Without yord On.

Speaker 6 (01:25:54):
It's kind of a head scratcher to me. I mean,
it's a lot of credit goes to I guess the
coaching staff and these players who were able to pick
up the slack when when.

Speaker 1 (01:26:03):
Guys go down. But uh, they've got a couple of traits.
I love the runs that they score with two outs
and the comeback wins.

Speaker 6 (01:26:12):
I think they have twenty one, maybe twenty comeback wins
this year's second most in the game.

Speaker 9 (01:26:17):
So twenty of their wins I don't mean to interrupt you.
So half their wins are comeback wins already, is what
you're saying.

Speaker 3 (01:26:25):
That's impressive.

Speaker 6 (01:26:26):
Yeah, it's a great it's a great trait, you know,
and being able to score runs off of the other
team's bullpens isn't easy to do, and they show that ability.

Speaker 9 (01:26:35):
Steve when you get when you lose the guys they've
lost over the years well documented. And then you add
Tucker and Bregman to that and try to replace him
with young players. Do you uh do you see I
mean it's it's hard to sustain this. I mean the
the resilience of the organization. But with that in times
when you do that, normally our thought process and fans
and media would be, oh, you're your tearing down to rebuild. Well,

(01:26:58):
the windows not closed on this team by any stretch
of the imagination. But do you see a near future
when you get when the Dezenzos and Meltons and Cam
Smith's are all in the lineup different positions at the
same time. I mean, when their time comes. They're doing
a great job of bridging the gap that should be
a closed window for most pro sports organizations in the transition.

(01:27:18):
I don't see the window closing anytime soon.

Speaker 1 (01:27:22):
I don't either.

Speaker 6 (01:27:23):
You know, we're getting glimpses of the guys that are
starting to trickle up here. You know that it was
a savvy trade and I know it's not popular, but
you get Cam Smith in that deal. I think, at
the end of the day is going to be something
that Dashtros fans. I think they're starting to really appreciate
some of the things that Dana has done. But I

(01:27:43):
think that. You know, when you watch cam Smith, you realize,
all right, that trade doesn't get done with that Cam
Smith and the deal, and you understand why because he's
going to be a big part of this future the
way you're talking about the turning or the passing of
the baton.

Speaker 1 (01:27:58):
You know, with some of these guys as.

Speaker 6 (01:28:00):
They move through, you've got to have a couple of
mainstays in there, and he's going to be a big
part of that unit that takes the Astros, you know,
to the championship again. You know, I truly believe that,
you know, they've got some of their core guys here already.

Speaker 9 (01:28:15):
Again, Steve, can you see a world where if they
hit where they you know, you said timely hitting and
coming from behind important, but where they're not like exploding
on offense with the long ball on a regular basis,
kind of like they've been a little inconsistent this year
on the offensive side. Can you see a world where
this pitching starting pitching the bullpens another the whole world

(01:28:36):
the way they're pitching, but we're starting pitching the guys
we got today where they can sustain this the rest
of the year, or or should we prepare that there's
going to be a downturn a little bit somewhere.

Speaker 6 (01:28:49):
Well, I think there will be a downturn at some point.
You know, there'll be lulls that I feel very encouraged
that there's good depth there, you know, And I still
think there's a couple of guys the minor league that
if they called on them, that they would fit right
in too.

Speaker 1 (01:29:04):
You know, I feel strongly about that.

Speaker 6 (01:29:06):
You know, you watch the games in spring training, you
go to the other fields, and you realize that there's
a lot there's a lot more down there as far
as the pitching. I don't care what the team you ranked,
you know, as far as minor league publications go, but
they've got some pitching down there and they're going to
be able to.

Speaker 1 (01:29:25):
Keep this going. So they've got a lot of guys
coming back to you.

Speaker 6 (01:29:29):
When you think of Luis Garcia and Eric Getty and
Christian Javier.

Speaker 1 (01:29:34):
And JP France.

Speaker 6 (01:29:36):
Outside of the guys that we're talking about that haven't
taking the big league stage yet, they're pretty full. You know,
it might be a situation where they can trade from
a surplus right now, and you never feel like you
have a surplus of pitching, but the Astros might I mean,
I don't know how they feel about it, but in

(01:29:56):
my eyes, they're pretty deep in that regard.

Speaker 9 (01:29:59):
Steve, can they Steve Sparks, Astro's broadcaster, a couple more
minutes here on his normal Monday visit at eight o'clock
out on the West Coast for the the U A's
against the A's host and the Astros of Sacramento. Steve,
can you see, let's just say, for talking's sake, that
we don't get the normal yord On. Can they win
a World Series with the way they're built right now?
And he doesn't and know and he doesn't have a

(01:30:21):
great He's let's say he's just a guy this year,
just for the hell of it. Are they good enough
to win a World Series? If he's just a guy
or he didn't play the rest of the year. Could
they win a World Series with it without him?

Speaker 1 (01:30:33):
Do you think they have as good pitching as anybody?
In basements?

Speaker 9 (01:30:37):
I said earlier in the six o'clock hour, I said,
there's nobody better. When I talk about starting pitching and
bullpen combined, I'm with you. I think they're at the
front line. Their top two starters can compete with anybody
right he lefty when they come right out of the gate,
and the way they've pitched, and the way the bullpen
is I got. I'd make the bet that they can
compete with anybody in baseball, no doubt.

Speaker 1 (01:30:58):
Yeah, yeah, me too, you know. And i'd take Paynia
over anybody in the leadoff spot.

Speaker 6 (01:31:03):
Well maybe you know, Tonnie, This don't get silly, but
I'd take pay you above almost everybody at the leadoff spot.
What he's playing right now and everything he brings to
this team, I think. I think you start to build
your team around somebody like that, and then I just
feel like there's a lot more in the tank. When
you're looking at a couple of guys in the lineup,
I think they're going to hit at some point and uh,

(01:31:25):
start to play more.

Speaker 1 (01:31:26):
Like they have in the past, and uh, it'll get
the offense will get better.

Speaker 6 (01:31:31):
But I love the I love the trait that they
have with all the two out RBIs. You know, they're
that means that some guys may not be getting the
job done earlier in the in the inning, but guys
are picking them up in a little bit later on.

Speaker 1 (01:31:45):
So it makes it.

Speaker 6 (01:31:47):
Makes it really temp on the other teams teaching when
when they become so relentless that they just can't get
out of innings and the astros make them, make them
pretty frustrated.

Speaker 9 (01:31:57):
I think, Steve, before I let you go be the
front office all the manager, I come to you and
we're talking about Rafael Devers, what would make you trade him?

Speaker 8 (01:32:05):
A star like that? Well, second year or the two?
I mean, I was shocked today.

Speaker 9 (01:32:09):
I understand all the stuff with the Bregman stuff and
positions at third and first base, but you're giving you
your best hitter in one of the ten best hitters
in baseball? Is the headache bigger than the talent? From
your perception? What would make you move a guy like that?
Not just necessarily him, but but you wake up and
he's gone?

Speaker 3 (01:32:26):
Why?

Speaker 1 (01:32:28):
That The only thing I can say, Sean, you know
this better.

Speaker 6 (01:32:32):
Than anybody nobody like I don't know, you don't know
anybody speculating on what happened in Boston.

Speaker 1 (01:32:40):
Knows the full truth.

Speaker 3 (01:32:41):
Right, right?

Speaker 1 (01:32:43):
You know?

Speaker 8 (01:32:43):
And the depth of that truth too, right, Steve? How
deep it is?

Speaker 1 (01:32:47):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (01:32:47):
Like, we have no idea what has taken place throughout
every step of what's what's happening and why that why
that situation and relationship soured, you know, And I'm like
you guys, you know, I'm scratching my head thinking, man,
he's one of the best hitters in baseball.

Speaker 1 (01:33:04):
Man, that's tough to We have no idea what led
to that, right, We'll never know. But there is a
lot more than we know.

Speaker 6 (01:33:10):
I guarantee that way more. You know, there's things that
lead up to that that we have no idea. So
and you know, they felt like, you know what, we
can get this off of our books and you know,
wipe our hands and try to try to piece this thing.

Speaker 1 (01:33:25):
Together a different way. And they've got a lot of
good young prospects, so maybe they.

Speaker 3 (01:33:30):
Sure do that.

Speaker 9 (01:33:31):
Some pretty good young players right now, Steve there, they
kind of feel like the Astros did when they were
doing theirs. They've got some really, really good young.

Speaker 6 (01:33:37):
Players, they do, you know, and I think I think
they want to build around those guys that they feel
like are going to be the next wave. And right
now they're struggling pitching, so they've got some money to
go out there and fortify that.

Speaker 9 (01:33:50):
Now the Red Sox and picked pitching struggles. Well there
there there's.

Speaker 6 (01:33:54):
A the same goes for every organization. There's so much
that goes on behind the scenes that nobody knows. Right Like,
on the surface, it looks like it doesn't make sense,
but if you found out the real reason why, you
go okay, I understand that right now.

Speaker 3 (01:34:09):
Yep.

Speaker 1 (01:34:10):
They can't divulge everything.

Speaker 9 (01:34:11):
No question about it. I mean they and they absolutely can't.
And whether it's him or anybody else, you always ask yourself,
is in their mind is the headache bigger than the
salary or the talent or helping us move forward?

Speaker 3 (01:34:25):
And for whatever reason?

Speaker 9 (01:34:26):
And we may never know the full reason, but Dev's
is out and uh and uh. I don't think the Reds,
I mean the Astras are gonna get real quick, Steve,
the Astras. You don't see them getting involved in a
trade like that. It's that needle moving right before the deadline.
They don't need to do that. And you don't see
anything like that happening here, do you.

Speaker 14 (01:34:45):
No.

Speaker 6 (01:34:45):
I think they need a lefty bat. I mean Melton
going down. I think hurt I loved it when he
was in there, giving him some more balance. But when
Jordan gets back, I still think they need another lefty
bat in the lineup just to just to give the.

Speaker 1 (01:34:58):
Pictures a harder time. I'm going through the lineup, right.

Speaker 6 (01:35:01):
You know, you get a guy with a really good slider,
and with that many righties, it's not that top if
you're dialed in with that slider. We saw that, we
saw it early on in the season, Griffin Canning guys
like that, they're able to kind of exploit what the
astro has had.

Speaker 3 (01:35:15):
A pumping it to that back toe and stuff. Yeah,
makes it a problem, right.

Speaker 6 (01:35:19):
Yeah, I think, you know, getting a lefty and when
Belt comes back, man, I like what I saw from him.
So Dana said it's going to be it's gonna be
a little bit before he gets back.

Speaker 1 (01:35:29):
So uh, and I think they need another lefty.

Speaker 6 (01:35:33):
But if is it going to be needle moving Maybe
maybe not to the national media, but I think to
the astros, I think it'll.

Speaker 1 (01:35:39):
Be very helpful.

Speaker 9 (01:35:40):
Yeah, because of that dominant right handed lineup, they just
can stay away, stay away, stay away at least, and
you're gonna have to get that back toe on a lefty.
But it's now you're not talking about something like you said,
not a needle moving power guy. But you're just a
guy that's semi relentless and and puts the ball in play.
And it's kind of a pain in the ass to
deal with, is what you're saying on the field right.

Speaker 1 (01:36:00):
Give you give you a little pop.

Speaker 9 (01:36:01):
Yep, be nice, like to see Jordan. I'll take that pop.
See if any ideas in your mind when you think
we'll see.

Speaker 1 (01:36:07):
Him, not in my mind. I mean I heard that,
like Dana was in our booth yesterday.

Speaker 6 (01:36:12):
So of course we talked to him before and after
the interview, and Robert does a great job with that.

Speaker 1 (01:36:17):
But I mean, you're beating the dead horse sometimes with that.

Speaker 6 (01:36:19):
Yeah, he's healing, he's healing, he's getting a lot better,
and it sounds like he's really close to swinging of that.

Speaker 1 (01:36:24):
And I think the best news about this is they
don't feel like he's gonna go need you know twenty
twenty five at bats to be ready.

Speaker 6 (01:36:31):
They're gonna plug him, plug him in right away as
soon as he gives them the thumbs up that doesn't hurt.

Speaker 1 (01:36:36):
It's go time get.

Speaker 9 (01:36:38):
Rid of that threshold of pain and heal it because
it'll be big. This team is. They're better than I
think we thought they'd be. Seventy or seventy more games.
So yeah, it's been impressive. The pitching staff's been off
the charts. We'll hopefully I have the same conversation about
the pitching staff next week, meaning it's just real good
and they continue to sustain him. Steve great stuff. Appreciate
you waking up early with us, brother, and enjoy the

(01:36:58):
next four days and and we'll look forward to next Monday.

Speaker 1 (01:37:02):
I appreciate it. Thanks you having all right.

Speaker 9 (01:37:04):
I appreciate it. And he is real quick before we
go to break. He's so right though, when you're that
heavy right handed lineup and you can keep the way,
which has been a problem in the past keeping the
ball away. Now pain has become more disciplined. Yin a
moving up to the two holes, telling him another left
hander would be nice, and a left hander's got good

(01:37:24):
back control that can prevent you know, if you'd also
get a right handed thrown to that back. It's a
tough way to deal with it, but you got to
deal with a lot of right handers in this lineup.
I just think it's a tribute to the pitching staff
and the clutch hitting and Steve valid I didn't know
that twenty or twenty one of their wins were come
from behind.

Speaker 3 (01:37:40):
It's an interesting stat.

Speaker 9 (01:37:41):
It's an impressive stat because it tells you they're getting
hits that they weren't getting at times last year at the.

Speaker 3 (01:37:46):
Right time well.

Speaker 8 (01:37:47):
And it's also how many of those games early on
they lost last year. I mean that was the separator
and the reason why they were so many games below
five hundreds, So.

Speaker 9 (01:37:55):
And how many difference of your makes right and how
many and getting beat it home against teams that you
should be beat by it times last year as well.

Speaker 3 (01:38:03):
Impressive on the road.

Speaker 9 (01:38:04):
Now, sacrament A smaller ballpark, should be interesting and cozy
Astro is usually a draw. We'll see if they draw there,
but a chance to extend that three out of four
gets them to what that would make it a that
would make what eight, eight and two, so on the
on the trip or on the on this thirteen game swing. Yeah, yeah,
we'll take it, enjoy it, and then they go what
do they have after that?

Speaker 3 (01:38:23):
Dan Anaheim?

Speaker 9 (01:38:23):
Anaheim, which could be a little more interesting than the
A's so late night games all week this week.

Speaker 3 (01:38:29):
All week.

Speaker 8 (01:38:30):
The Angels, though they got swept over the weekend by
the Orioles, so they're reeling a little bit. But the
flip side, I mean, the A's just swept the Royals
on the road, so the.

Speaker 9 (01:38:40):
A's are good for a handful of those during the year.
And just you come in there thinking, Okay, this is
going to be simple, and they'll they'll scrap and battle
you and then they will do the same with the Astros.

Speaker 8 (01:38:50):
We've seen the movie. We have seen it, oh I
ah numerous times. Full plate this week against the A's
and also the Angels for the Astros.

Speaker 3 (01:38:56):
So we'll talk about that.

Speaker 8 (01:38:58):
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Speaker 8 (01:40:51):
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fired up. Al on the south Side morning out, Hey.

Speaker 1 (01:41:01):
What's going on?

Speaker 5 (01:41:02):
Guy?

Speaker 10 (01:41:04):
Hey?

Speaker 1 (01:41:04):
Triple y, tripley bringing it.

Speaker 10 (01:41:06):
In on a Monday, age Sean.

Speaker 3 (01:41:10):
He's a cupmaster, say Sean.

Speaker 17 (01:41:14):
All I was thinking about when the last conversation we.

Speaker 5 (01:41:17):
Had on the phone, Seun, what about that ten percent
we just talked about that. That's the Nick Nick and
tuckball games down to one.

Speaker 10 (01:41:27):
You know, we was in a slump for a while
winning them close, small, uh score games and we come
out two to one, four three.

Speaker 1 (01:41:35):
Say that's what I was talking about, Sean.

Speaker 3 (01:41:39):
The clutch definitely, because you.

Speaker 17 (01:41:43):
Mentioned a pincheon just a little bit more complimentary baseball
with the batting in the sky's the limit.

Speaker 1 (01:41:51):
That's we just was talking about those.

Speaker 5 (01:41:53):
So shout out to the astro Sean and say, that's
what I was talking about.

Speaker 1 (01:41:57):
These guys coming around.

Speaker 15 (01:41:58):
I don't know, Sean, it just look like one of them,
one of them seasons where we can do a live
better than last year, which you think.

Speaker 1 (01:42:05):
I'm thinking, like, we go a little bit full. That's all.
I got a great show.

Speaker 8 (01:42:09):
All great stuff. Thanks all. I'm with you. I probably
I had them.

Speaker 9 (01:42:12):
I think at eighty seven or eighty eight wins when
we went through talking about it. No higher than that,
and I don't think I had I guess we can
go back and check Tripoli, but I believe I had them,
and Dan, I think we're both in the same category
that little north eighty five wins, but south of ninety,
somewhere in that eighty seven, eighty eight, eighty nine range.

Speaker 3 (01:42:31):
Max.

Speaker 8 (01:42:31):
Yeah, there are seventy one games in and there are
eleven games over five hundred and forty one wins right now.

Speaker 3 (01:42:36):
And they're they'd with thirty losses. They're there for me.

Speaker 9 (01:42:39):
This is they're better record wise, let alone performance wise
than I thought. Now I understand it scattered around offensively
at times and with the order. My thing is, wherever
your expectations were on either side, there's no pitching wise,
there's no way your expectations with the injuries could have
been this big.

Speaker 8 (01:42:57):
Front of the first two.

Speaker 9 (01:42:59):
Sure, but the overall production of the pitching staff's no way.
It's far exceeded expectations. It's had to. If it's not,
then whatever job we're all in. The person who said no, no, no,
this is why they're gonna be need needs to be
in that profession, meaning scout and find themselves in a
baseball office right because there's no way hitting wise. I

(01:43:20):
think we thought losing Gregman and Tucker that there was
going to be the struggles and you know, rookie and
right field, a new third basement, a new left fielder
at times, and then second basement is how are they
going to do there? Will Christian Walker be the guy
you can start to get? Jake Myers is hovering around
three hundred, So there's no way you could have thought it.
So when you talk about expectations, they are, to what

(01:43:43):
al saying, much much more advanced than I thought they'd
be at this, you know, hanging around five hundred, couple
games over, get down, a couple couple games over, and
they just be kind of like that. It's one of
those years. Well maybe it's one of those years where
the pitching's just outstanding, they go through minimal lulls and
it carries the hitting, which we've seen they've done that
a couple times in these World Series runs where pitching

(01:44:04):
has been dominant, especially over the last couple years, when
the hitting hasn't been and there's no way you could
have expected. I guess the hitting is probably kind of
where people thought it would be losing those guys, that
makes sense, but pitching's far exceeded it. So when you
put two together, as everybody always says, great pitching will
always be really good hitting. And if they can just

(01:44:24):
hit ten percent better when the lineup's healthy, why aren't
they the why aren't they? I mean, the odds of
them getting to deeper in the American League got to
continue to grow in their favor.

Speaker 8 (01:44:35):
And winning games like this bode well for the postseason
because these are the type of games you're at.

Speaker 9 (01:44:39):
Most of them are like that. You're losing two to one,
three to one, you're facing frontline, really good pitching, and
you make the playoffs for the most part. Unlike the NBA,
we don't do a mid season tournament. Even though I
get it, it's still frustrating. You're either enter, you're not right.
And in a short series we saw what happened to
the Astros. You get two good pitchers and get you
get shut down and the Astra now are kateable doing that?

(01:45:01):
And Steve made the point when you and I both
have agreed, I don't see how that you can tell
me from opening starter till the back of the bullpen
and everything in between that there's a better pitching staff
and both combined right now than the Astros. Whatever the
metrics are saying, I can tell you this. They're in
the team picture and it's and there's not a lot
in that picture.

Speaker 3 (01:45:22):
No, there isn't.

Speaker 8 (01:45:22):
And they have definitely pitched their way into wins and
at least as of late timely hits and using that
to move their way towards winning as well Andrew John.
See you guys right there. We'll get you guys involved
in the conversation. As I mentioned good news about this week,
but also some bad that follows. We'll discuss that here.
It is a Shawn Salisbury Show Sports Sox seven to ninety.

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The seven to ninety listener line in the eight o'clock
hour is presented by one eight hundred car Cash. I said,
the good news was this weekend you sweep the series,
and obviously that's three to go into the two others
that you want at the end of the White Sox series,
so you win that series. This one you go five
and one at home. The only problem is the Mariners

(01:46:04):
and the Rangers both did not lose this weekend.

Speaker 3 (01:46:07):
The Rangers have won fourth straight.

Speaker 8 (01:46:09):
They're now back at even five hundred and thirty six
and thirty six, the Mariners thirty six and thirty four
on this season. The Rangers, though, for all of the
issues they had this year, pitching was not one of them.
I believe that Nathan Valdi is still on the IL
and you sent Tyler Mallley there to the IL, so
you wonder if that's going to start to wear on

(01:46:29):
this team. A little bit not so great in the
back end of the bullpen, and the hitting had been
hit or miss, But as of recent times they seem
like they're starting a round in the form with the bats.

Speaker 9 (01:46:39):
Do you believe it's a four man division or a
two man division?

Speaker 8 (01:46:44):
I think it's two and I only even think it's Seattle.
I think it's Texas. I think I think the Rangers
are the ones you have to keep an eye on
the most. Yeah, Stle just doesn't hit, and they're pitching
for all of like, you know, for for all of
the credit that people give the Mariners for their pitching,
I'm like it's kind of performed.

Speaker 3 (01:47:02):
It's kind of been Pedestrian.

Speaker 9 (01:47:04):
Fi Astro said, they have forced I mean when they
started the season four really solid for sure, big time
front starters, but they they don't. Their lineup does not
scare me, not even close. And I mean, I know
cal Raley's having an All Star year. I mean they've
got some players, but overall they have to have good pitching.

(01:47:28):
They don't have Jordan on their team. They don't have
that guy. They just don't that when you say, well,
we maybe struggling. Hitting is still the thing is I
look at the numbers and the people, and I say, okay,
at some point, it's that that's going to change. Were
they maxed out at hitting the baseball Seattle, where's their max?
Isn't cal rally giving you his max? I mean, dude,

(01:47:49):
he's gonna hit forty home runs this year, I would
think if I mean, if this keeps up, you know,
and so they'll grind it hang around.

Speaker 3 (01:47:56):
I tended to lean with you.

Speaker 9 (01:47:58):
I think when all of a sudden done, it's probably
two and a half team Devaion.

Speaker 3 (01:48:02):
The third may hang around. I don't know what even
we call hanging arounds.

Speaker 9 (01:48:05):
The ten games is within five heading into the last
thirty games of the season. But I can tell you this,
it's gonna be hard. It'll be hard. I would say
that there's gonna be more team. I'd say there's gonna
be four teams closer than it will be somebody running
away with the division. Although I keep looking up and
the Astros keep doing this. Maybe we're wrong and getting
yourd on back as we talked about. Maybe they will,
but I think they're preparing for the fact they're just

(01:48:26):
gonna be a grind.

Speaker 3 (01:48:27):
But I'm with you.

Speaker 9 (01:48:28):
I'm not so sure that, and I trust Bruce Bochi,
I'm not so sure. It's not gonna be them. It's
gonna be hanging around as long as they're pitching staffs
healthy because you can rake all you want, you better
be able to get people out. And we know what
Ivalld he's like in the postseason. He's pretty damn good.

Speaker 8 (01:48:41):
For sure, And I mean he's been really good for
the Rangers. But again, I mean he's been dealing with
a little bit of injury issues and what's his name
has shoulder issues. Tyler Malley dealing with those.

Speaker 9 (01:48:53):
Right, You hope de Gram gives you all the starts.
He's cabable because he's another one. We talk about mccullor's here.
It's the same deal with the Grom. He's a The
dude is win healthy. There's nobody better. But the win
healthy is a problem. That's That's the thing. That's the
problem now, because man, see when he's going good, you
can you can line up all the people you want baseball.

(01:49:15):
He's still that guy. The problem is how often do
I get that guy? For how many starts a year?
Because man, alive, is he good? In you know, the
ground's starting to creep up in age now and I
think he's mid thirties now. Yeah so, But but Boach
knows Santa handle pitching staff. The best thing they ask
is they know they're not going away, meaning that the
Rangers they'll hang around.

Speaker 3 (01:49:35):
But that's okay. As long as they ask, just take
care of their business, won't matter.

Speaker 9 (01:49:39):
Their pitching is better than anybody than division, and going in,
I think people thought they were the third and that
was before some of these injuries. Had the third best
starting staff in the division, not counting the first two
guys coming out of the shoot for them overall depth, right,
because of all the injuries, they said, we'll talk about
holding my beer.

Speaker 3 (01:49:54):
Good. Gracious are they have? They been good?

Speaker 9 (01:49:56):
And the bullpen's just been lights out on a regular bay.
Slightly the old meme, how are you still alive? That's
pretty much what people look at with the Astros, John
and Fresno. John, what's going on?

Speaker 10 (01:50:08):
Hey?

Speaker 17 (01:50:09):
What what's going on?

Speaker 5 (01:50:10):
Guys? Hey?

Speaker 17 (01:50:11):
Look here watching that game. What I come away from
that game is two things. Hey man, the defense.

Speaker 3 (01:50:18):
The pitch.

Speaker 17 (01:50:18):
It's easy for a pitch and to pitch when he
know his defense going back him up. The defensive dogs.
They got dogs out there, man, they say run. Uh
you know my save run Cam did the other night
when the robber was pitching. They run left field. We
know whoever they put out there, and left field is
gonna play. So they got dolls, says Eastwood of the
relax knowing it. If they make a bad pitch, they

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got somebody gonna run the ball down out there. And secondly,
I like the fact that they scoring for the bottom end,
the bottom end of the lineup. The bottom end of
the lineup is what one of these last cup the game. Now,
Cam Cam is hard to pitch too. Why because his
swing is inside out, So if he don't sweep on
the outside of the play, he could go get there
and take it the right field. He could go hit

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that and take that in the right field. So you're
gonna have to come inside. That's pretty gonna hurt this
some what as he'd grow he learned. So I feel
good about the Astros and you're done come back. Oh man,
they gonna be setting to be wrecking with because uh,
them boys are playing good ball right now.

Speaker 1 (01:51:15):
I hang up the list.

Speaker 9 (01:51:17):
I appreciate the call. John, hell of a point all
the way around. I mean they they're getting the timely hitting.
Jordan's only gonna add to that. And this is I
wouldn't seventy one games and you would.

Speaker 3 (01:51:29):
We weren't.

Speaker 9 (01:51:30):
This wasn't on your card, Norman, after all the injuries
and losing again a corner outfielder and a corner infielder,
two of your best players. And it's just it's typical astros.
This is who they are, and they get pitching no
matter who it is that nobody develops players in baseball
better than them, period period.

Speaker 3 (01:51:49):
Nobody does, especially guys you didn't know were even going
to be a part of it.

Speaker 9 (01:51:53):
It's impressive, man, impressive forty one and thirty with the lead,
and uh still wondering when they're about you're gonna explode,
and they will. But as long as that pitching holds up,
this team will stay right where they are the whole year.

Speaker 3 (01:52:10):
That's the good thing.

Speaker 8 (01:52:10):
And Jake Myers was probably your most productive guy on
Saturday and Sunday.

Speaker 3 (01:52:14):
I hit yesterday.

Speaker 8 (01:52:15):
I think I hit on Saturday too, And I mean,
you know, mentioning Cam Smith what he was able to do,
much money's little lema gonna owe me when he's post
I think made a bit, I said, next year, I said, okay,
I'll make you bet he it's I think it was
either two forty or two fifty.

Speaker 3 (01:52:29):
He said, Sean, you know there's no way you're looking.

Speaker 9 (01:52:31):
We might have got a sea note or something. But yeah,
right now advantage add in Salisbury on the on the lily. Yeah,
but he still got We said, what about a one
hundred and ten of them left or sawe hundred and
eleven games left?

Speaker 3 (01:52:44):
Is that right about right? Yeah?

Speaker 9 (01:52:46):
One hundred eleven games seventy one in Yeah, man, I uh,
I'll take that. Speaking of Bengo cards, now you're gonna
blurt Bingo out big time, but that guy's hitting two
eighty five when the season's.

Speaker 8 (01:52:56):
Over, Bingo cards over back of the baseball card. I
think that's what it is. Your win probability is looking good.

Speaker 9 (01:53:01):
I prefer being I like I like hearing there's Bengo
out louder when I win.

Speaker 8 (01:53:06):
Well, especially if it's you yelling you, yebody else getting
your only one way. You're always just one away. That's
that's it. It just won away. But uh yeah, man,
the other names. We say it all the time in
all sports. There's the other guys, which to them they're
not other guys. But the optics say other guys now
look pretty impressive.

Speaker 3 (01:53:27):
Man.

Speaker 9 (01:53:28):
But I know, seventy one games in, but this is
now you start to know who teams are and what
their mo is and the identity the pitchings. The identity
on this squad makes zero mistake about it. And that's
a team with Altuo, ve Pina, Jordan all in the
same squad. Uh, you're saying something when you say that,
and that the identity of the team. Identity of the

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team is the pitching staff.

Speaker 8 (01:53:52):
Impressive, no doubt about It's Astros with the sweep over
the weekend, good things for them. But with this lineup, though,
is a little bit of attrition starting to show. Could
be we'll talk about it is Sean Salisbury Show, Sports
Talk seven to ninety. Let's go, this is this Sean
Salisbury show. You know, without jord on right now and

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east Sock Perettis. Although Dana Brown on with the Guys
yesterday is Steve alluded to and that est SoC Perettis
sounds like at least a couple of more days for him.
I almost wonder if you're not going to see him
until the Angels series next weekend. Like if the flight
yesterday get him there, you're gonna want to test him out,

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do all those things. But when it comes to hamstrings,
I mean, you've got a slight strain right now.

Speaker 3 (01:54:40):
You want to make sure that that thing's all the
way out of there. Yeah, no doubt.

Speaker 9 (01:54:44):
The slight strain turns into a pull, which turns into
a tear, which keeps you out for three months. I
know that sounds crazy. You don't want that, but that's
one of those the quick twitch and at his position,
they're not not a lot of slow movement, not only
at the play but in the field.

Speaker 3 (01:55:00):
So you got to wait.

Speaker 9 (01:55:01):
That's one of those that if he's feeling good, you say,
can we survive him for three more games or four
more games? And the answer is yes, then you make
sure that it's done. I'm telling you, dude, Soft tissue
injuries blow when it comes.

Speaker 3 (01:55:15):
That's why you'll see him.

Speaker 9 (01:55:17):
I missed a game played, four missed another one played, two, missed,
one played five.

Speaker 3 (01:55:22):
That's in football. It's annoying and you don't have as many.

Speaker 9 (01:55:25):
You can kind of get lost in shuffling baseball, but
you don't want the performance to suffer because you're only
getting eighty percent of him, or it lingers long enough
to where he's got to get two or three cents
on the al. You don't want that, So you're exactly right.
Can you survive without him for four games and then
wait till the next series?

Speaker 3 (01:55:41):
I absolutely can. Yeah, you want him in there.

Speaker 9 (01:55:44):
I'm sure he wants to play, but you got to
protect players from their owns, from themselves because most competitors
want to go play and want to get out there
and do their thing, but the soft tissue injuries are
a problem and they can linger if you don't do
it right. This team's always though, aired on the side
of and I mean this respectfully overprotection, and it's okay,

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it's okay. I know would bother some, but it's okay
because I'd rather have that than linger on the on
the hammy all year long.

Speaker 8 (01:56:10):
Well, I mean it's over protection. For what we talked
about earlier with Jordon. I mean they didn't protect enough
with him on the on the beginning part of the tament, right, Yeah,
I mean again where it gets back to the messaging
that was out there of well, when Jordon tells us
he's ready to go. It's like, okay, have you sent
that hand through an MRI one more time? Because why
don't we do that first? And then after that then

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you can go ahead and say those things. But until
then it's an educated guess at best and sometimes not
so much.

Speaker 9 (01:56:40):
Yeah, and in truth, you can see all the information
you want to see on a on on an image,
but you also got to go to the dude and say, dude,
how you feel if there's a twiget it's still it
looks fairly good, but there's still that comfortability factor, right,
and it's important for the player. So it's it's a
it is a very slippery slope, and I will always

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to me when it comes to those And this has
come from a guy who can't stand load management and
sport in baseball or basketball. I just can't stand it.
But I understand it's necessary at times. But what I
don't want to do is have to deal with the
stuff I can't control. Meaning we didn't take care of
the hamstring. We tried to rush back, meaning him or

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the team, and before you know it, now it's out
of your control because you're on the shelf for a month.
At least, this you can say, well, you can control it.
You just got to resist the temptations. Okay, he's ready,
he's ready. But another day, Okay, one more day, it'll
be great, and then you hit the ground running and
hopefully it's not another issue the rest of the year.

Speaker 8 (01:57:40):
Well, I'd rather pull guys back on June sixteenth as
opposed to not having them on October sixteen.

Speaker 9 (01:57:47):
There's no question, especially when you're eleven games over five hundred,
you're in first place, and you know your best baseball
is still coming. Paratus has been a big part of that.
When they're playing good baseball. He has been as consistent
a player they've had this year, not named in truth
on an everyday basis, offensively and defensively. Name somebody who's
been more consistent than him, not named Jeremy Panya. Oh oh,
that's that's exactly where I was gonna go. And because

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in truth, Jake Myers in the top three. But it's
those guys and and Paradis. Even though it's not three
hit three thirty, but every day he posts when he's
healthy and you want to make sure he is, and
he gets you hit here, make you play there. He's
been a really it's not even pleasant surprise. It's not
even a surprise. It's pleasant, but it's not a surprise
because you expected good things from him. But he's fit

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right in and been a really consistent player for them.

Speaker 3 (01:58:33):
Solid. It's the power.

Speaker 9 (01:58:34):
It's probably a better powered I didn't think he had
had power, But did you think he'd have sixteen home
runs by it this time of the.

Speaker 8 (01:58:40):
Year you hoped? Yeah, I mean that's much more than believing.
He's probably been in the top of the list on
third to right, That's what I'm saying. So you're you
got to you get a good gig with that. You're
looking at a thirty guy. Would we ask breg We
wanted Bregman to be a twenty five, twenty four to
twenty five thirty guy. Paratus has got a little more
poppin's about, especially early in the season than what you're
used to here, unlike Boston, where he's obviously a little

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more comfortable. To start the season in a better glove
than we anticipated, he was going to have to worry.

Speaker 3 (01:59:08):
No question.

Speaker 9 (01:59:08):
And the truth is, if we're comparing him to Bregman's glove,
then you were always gonna come up short, no matter
how good or solid a guy is you know you're
not gonna play. You know you're not gonna say a
many guys Brooks Robinson doesn't exist. Okay, there's only one
of those cats, and Bregman, when it came to the gloves,
about as good as we've had in baseball, probably should
have what's the only one one, probably should have won

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more Gold Gloves with the way he plays. But when
you do it, the first thing is, oh, he's not
gonna be as good as well. Of course he's not.
But I can tell you this, for the first month
and a half or two months of a season, what
do we in two months in now?

Speaker 3 (01:59:41):
Dan a little over two months. His starts fast.

Speaker 9 (01:59:45):
I mean, I mean his his home runs are taking
Bregman into August to get that that point. So not
that he's a better player, but he's been really consistent
and somebody that you're gonna need playing every day well.

Speaker 8 (01:59:56):
And you'd also like to see that start get going
out of Christian Walker where it looked like, I mean,
it's just how many times have we seen that this
year now where it's like, you know, a good three
hit performance and you're like, okay, hey, that's that's it.

Speaker 9 (02:00:07):
That's the one right there. You're looking for, sustained brother,
that's right now. One every five days, two every four
days type of thing.

Speaker 3 (02:00:13):
That's what you look for, and hopefully you get it.

Speaker 9 (02:00:15):
But that corner and field's been a real pleasant surprise
and a really good one, better than he even thought
at third base with the hopes are still alive for
the guy at first because we've seen the movie.

Speaker 8 (02:00:25):
Well and yeah, I mean, you know, you just hope
that that's right around the corner, and Dana's sold us
that July, June, August, that's that's usually when he starts
to get going.

Speaker 3 (02:00:33):
Obviously not in that order.

Speaker 9 (02:00:35):
Well, and it'll be okay if if he does and
this team keeps playing like this until he is, until
Yourdon's back, it'll be a it'll be a really nice
fun thing to see when everybody, and I know Dana
likes he is hitting on all cylinders and the grit
of the team.

Speaker 3 (02:00:48):
But he's right.

Speaker 9 (02:00:49):
They have grit and they showed it over the weekend,
not only pitching, but the way they got timely hitting
it was impressive.

Speaker 8 (02:00:54):
Make no mistake about it, Sean, there you go, make
make no mistakes. Our guy that's right. That's it, that's right.

Speaker 9 (02:00:59):
He is his team's grit, and I don't blame him
because that's really the way to resilience grit over the
last ten years and since he's been here, it's a
perfect description for them.

Speaker 8 (02:01:08):
Well, and that's why the Astros said at forty one
and thirty at the moment in four and a half games,
open the Mariners in first place, Gary Brandon, see you
guys right there, Get you guys involved in the conversation.
Continue the Astros talk here. Fourth hour of the show,
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Speaker 8 (02:02:05):
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one two five seven ninety is the number to get in.
It's gonna go in in this hour with Gary in
Spring Gary, Good morning, how are you?

Speaker 3 (02:02:35):
Gary? Guess Gary's sleep on this Monday? All good? Just
don't be asleep at the wheel.

Speaker 8 (02:02:44):
No, no, no, no, no, you can't be asleep at the wheel.
And uh, I thought that, Gary, because while you were
while you were out, Gary, Gary, Gary was getting after
me a little bit, was he?

Speaker 3 (02:02:54):
Yeah?

Speaker 8 (02:02:54):
It was Jesus take the wheel?

Speaker 3 (02:02:57):
Isn't that? Is that a Carrie Underwood cut? Yeah? It
is so Gary, Gary. Uh dressed you down a little bit. Huh.
He just he tried. I didn't budge. Do you guys fight? No,
you guys argue.

Speaker 5 (02:03:09):
Just I.

Speaker 3 (02:03:09):
I had a good, solid base underneath, solid foundation. Yeah.

Speaker 8 (02:03:13):
My pad level was good. Yeah I wasn't. I wasn't
caught on my heels here.

Speaker 9 (02:03:18):
So did you attack? I mean did you cut play
downhill football?

Speaker 10 (02:03:20):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (02:03:21):
Yeah, and played absolutely through the man. Yeah. Oh you
don't hit to them through them now? Yeah?

Speaker 8 (02:03:26):
Yeah, yeah, that's what I did. It's like Rex Ryan
in his book. I had started reading it because we
had him on once and they gave us a promo
copy of it, so I said, all right, final read it.
He had showed his defensive lineman in Baltimore a video
of a horse kicking a guy in the chest, and
his point was, is that's how I want you guys
to attack the offensive lineman is to do it that way.

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In his line was he kicked in this word, the
crap out of this guy.

Speaker 3 (02:03:55):
Yeah, you does?

Speaker 9 (02:03:55):
They kick you so hard that the back of your
jersey number flies off, you know, one of those. That's
how you want to got to tackle. So so you
and who was what's his name?

Speaker 3 (02:04:03):
Gary's?

Speaker 9 (02:04:04):
Oh yeah, we have Gary all the time on. So
you and Gary got after a little bit. Well maybe
when Gary calls back in, like we can, I can
tune into what's going on here.

Speaker 8 (02:04:11):
I just mediate, Hey, I'm ten toes down right, the hands,
the hands are ready for blocking.

Speaker 3 (02:04:17):
You like to go nose to the grinds. How do
we come up with that? Saying?

Speaker 8 (02:04:22):
Yeah, I try not to. I try to stay away
from like the lunch pale guys. You know, he's a
blue collar guy, he plays a multimillion dollar sport.

Speaker 3 (02:04:31):
No, he's not a blue collar guy, a white collar
home movies.

Speaker 8 (02:04:35):
Yeah, yeah, it's it's hard to turn a blue collar
turn a white collar salary that's like forty million year
or twenty five million year or two blue collar grinder. Yeah,
he's getting his stakes medium plus exactly. You know the
fact you got to be in a certain tax bracket
to know like that. That's even like an option out

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there because most people just think, you know, medium, rare, medium,
all of that.

Speaker 3 (02:05:00):
Somebody to the plus. Yeah.

Speaker 8 (02:05:01):
You go out to eat with somebody and they order
up a medium plus. You're like, oh, you've done this
a few times at you.

Speaker 9 (02:05:06):
Yeah, yeah, and then and the plus another twenty dollars
on the.

Speaker 3 (02:05:10):
Steak or whatever.

Speaker 9 (02:05:11):
Man, that's you got. You go the medium plus. What
color does that turn out to be? I think it's
like a a slight rede. To me, it's like it's
between medium and medium rare. Right, So I'm a medium rare. Yeah,
I'm a medium rare guy. Yeah, but don't just don't
say well done going into a stair, no, or catch up,

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give you those things.

Speaker 3 (02:05:32):
Give me some a one with it.

Speaker 8 (02:05:34):
Yeah, well you got a really nice places. I mean,
they're liable to throw you out of there. You go
that route, well, they'll sure look at you sideways. Well,
the chef comes out. He's got the meat cleaver with
some which I say, he's not he's not swinging it
at any of you, but he's just kind of like
swinging it like in the air right there. Which one

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of you here ordered the the well done? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (02:05:57):
Which one do you guys? Ask for? Anyone with the steak?

Speaker 10 (02:05:59):
Yeah?

Speaker 8 (02:06:00):
Yeah, I start pointing to my left, this one, Yeah,
exactly exactly. It's it's the old insulting the chef. Don't
insult the chef.

Speaker 9 (02:06:09):
But you know it's crazy though, And I'm with you
because my son is a chef. You're actually opening just
so people know. It'll be his fifth restaurant. Now a
new one coming down of the pike called Van Horns
in Austin, freaking. The optics of it are awesome, and
it's my son and his partner's restaurant. But yeah, but
the truth is, and I and I get what we're
saying because I wouldn't eat well done for my dogs,

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and I even then make it medium rare, right, And
I'm making a mistake. If you love your steak well
done and you're spending seventy five bucks for it, should
the chef get mad? Probably not, because I mean he's
making the steak, but you're spending the money.

Speaker 3 (02:06:46):
Well, it's like you know, you go see a comedian,
you needs I get the unwritten rule.

Speaker 9 (02:06:49):
I wouldn't order it well done steak, Yeah, but I
just wonder you're spending it? Do we really If somebody
goes in there and says, I want ketchup on my
hot dog and people in Chicago are frouting on it,
should we really be mad at him because they want
ketch up on their hot dog?

Speaker 3 (02:07:03):
Or somebody likes a well done steak.

Speaker 8 (02:07:04):
Well, it's like a buddy of mine, his brother had
a pizza place, and he used to get so angry
about people who would want pineapple on the pizza but
him but love right. But that's what his point was.
He goes, just put the pineapple on the pizza. They're
paying for it.

Speaker 3 (02:07:18):
I don't have to eat it.

Speaker 9 (02:07:19):
Right, If I order a pizza, if I want pineapple
or you're not eating it, put it on there. It's
not it's not like a gourmet I throw some pineapples
on a cold pineapples on a hot pizza.

Speaker 3 (02:07:28):
Enjoy.

Speaker 8 (02:07:28):
That's the one that that's the one that gets me too,
is like you know, as somebody sees you eating something
a certain way, and I'm like, I can't believe that.

Speaker 3 (02:07:34):
It's like I'm the one eating it. It's not you.

Speaker 9 (02:07:37):
I didn't buy it for your taste, but exactly bought
it for me because I do like ketchup on hot talks.

Speaker 3 (02:07:41):
Sure I do.

Speaker 9 (02:07:42):
Now I can eat, dude, I'll eat if I'm hungry enough,
I'll just throw a plain hot dog on a piece
of bread and I don't even have to put anything
on it if I'm just eating walking out the door.
But I like ketch them on hot dogs. Yet I
get the optics for some. For me, I would never
order a steak or I don't want to eat one
now if if they do it, and then I'll eat it,
but I'm not cooking, And like when you're cooking for

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somebody else, you got to cook eight different steaks because
this one wants well done, that one likes the medium,
and I try to do it the way it's supposed
to be done. But I why would I if I'm
spending eighty bucks on a steak, Why would you care?

Speaker 3 (02:08:12):
How I order it?

Speaker 1 (02:08:13):
I do.

Speaker 8 (02:08:14):
I do my hot dogs the way that the boys
in the Alabama song cheap seats. I call it the
cheap seats. We like our dogs with a little mustard
and relish.

Speaker 3 (02:08:22):
There you go, that's me.

Speaker 9 (02:08:23):
Yeah, but the Chicago dog you get the proper relish though,
and you mustard resh. You don't need anything else if
the relish is Chicago style, that relish, you know what
I'm talking about. You can't even get the airport at
a kiosk, right, but yeah I do. But you throw
some some good mustard on there. Even some spicy goldens
even there every now and again. You know, French is
the Frenches. But little spicy goldens mustard ain't half bad

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on a dog either. But yeah, the old well done
in the steakhouse and may offend them. But if that's
way you want to eat it, eat away, you're paying
for it.

Speaker 8 (02:08:53):
There you go the thing to, you know, squeeze the
mustard on there, grape poop pond. There you go, Wow, man,
go and no wonder they're charge to what they are
around here right now?

Speaker 9 (02:09:01):
I have great pupon on like a pistromi sandwich. Yeah, yeahpastromi. Yeah,
that's that's one of those.

Speaker 8 (02:09:06):
The person that pulls up in the rolls Royce next
to you, Gary, give you no a shot?

Speaker 3 (02:09:10):
What's up buddy?

Speaker 18 (02:09:12):
Hey, guys, Sorry I used to you guys getting to
me that quick, I had to deliver apart. Hey, for me,
it's mustard only on hot dogs, steak meatium well sometimes
sauce sometimes, depending on the flavor itself, and then definitely
definitely no pineapple on pizza. But what I was calling
about was the Astros.

Speaker 1 (02:09:33):
Man.

Speaker 18 (02:09:34):
Isn't it funny how winning cures everything? Yeah, just cures
everything and makes everybody in such a such a good mood.
I'm mainly talking about all that want to be doctors
that just were slamming the Astros with their mystic diagnosis
and everything, and of course they were losing at that time,
but uh, real quick one a couple of other things

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on the Astros.

Speaker 1 (02:09:57):
Who would have thought that?

Speaker 18 (02:09:58):
And now, speaking for me, may I don't even hardly
think about Bregman or uh what's out there anymore? Yeah,
hardly don't even think about it anymore because we got
good replacements and everything, and the one the main thing
I wanted to call about. I am so impressed with
the people that diagnosed the scouting department of the Astros.

(02:10:22):
I've never seen a club that has such good scouting
that can just keep year after year plugging in people
over and over with injuries and successfully doing it. So
I just want to give a shout out to the
scouting department of the Astros.

Speaker 8 (02:10:35):
Great point. I appreciate your great stuff.

Speaker 9 (02:10:37):
Yeah, scouting and their ability to to develop to develop
players in your hand in hand.

Speaker 3 (02:10:43):
You know, he's maybe you don't forget about him, but.

Speaker 9 (02:10:49):
They're They've got some guys when when Predue is on
the field and playing well in the development of Cam
Smith and the irony of it is both Bregman and
Tucker are playing like all stars in their perspective city
in their respective cities too, So in truth, it kind
of the whole thing is kind of worked for the
Red Sox. I'm sure love having Bregman. He's been really good,

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Kud Tucker's been playing like an MVP at times in Chicago,
and you know the wes Nesky injury. Notwithstanding, your right
fielder and your third basement have been major contributors this year.

Speaker 8 (02:11:21):
Well, Jake Myers is also one of those guys that
I mean, the improvement just of his plate approaches this year.
I mean, how many times last year did you see, Oh, man,
don't swing it.

Speaker 3 (02:11:30):
Oh don't do it. What are you doing seventy one
games in.

Speaker 9 (02:11:34):
He's not a you know, like we'd say, oh, we're
playing bye week this week, you're definitely going to get
a win. He's not a Oh here comes Jake Okay
inning over. He's not that guy right now. He actually
is a threat at the plate, and so you have
to pitch differently to him, which extend you know, gets
into the pitcher can Now when you're going seven, eight, nine,
guy that's pumping it in there and they're getting basits

(02:11:56):
and fighting off and getting along at bats, all's it's
doing is ad and pitch out. So you're getting rid
of those guys earlier and making it better for the
guys top, and you're getting Jake Myers. You know, if
you're hitting at the bottom of the order but getting
on base and having a chance to score, because you
need people at the top of the order for the
paines in the two v's in the three hole or
the das and a tool to be able to drive
runners in Myers has been outstanding this year.

Speaker 8 (02:12:17):
Like we talked about with Sparky, you know, and golf,
solid ball striker, he said the he said, the baseball
version is all puts together, a good at pat It's it's.

Speaker 9 (02:12:24):
True, It's exactly right. Oh, man, I gotta have some
good at bats. Well he's a pro, of course, Yeah,
I would hope.

Speaker 3 (02:12:31):
Yeah, that's right.

Speaker 8 (02:12:31):
Oh he takes a couple of pitches there. Yeah, all right,
all right, Hey how about that Stevie?

Speaker 3 (02:12:36):
It right on?

Speaker 9 (02:12:37):
Yeah. The football is oh he can spin it. Yeah,
as we talked about, Yeah, he can, so can every
other guy that put a football four panels and eight laces.

Speaker 3 (02:12:48):
It's a fact check.

Speaker 9 (02:12:49):
All your footballs out, they're always going to be four
panels and eight laces. It's the same thing. Solid ball striker,
no kidding, Okay, that's why he's a plus eight. Okay,
because he's yeah you think and he had to be
a solid ball striker or that damn course.

Speaker 8 (02:13:04):
All weekend basketball tickles the twine. Oh yeah, well I
hope he puts it through the basket because you're paying
him to score twenty five thirty at nights his job.

Speaker 3 (02:13:12):
Yeah, knock it down. Boy, the guy's a really good shooter.

Speaker 9 (02:13:15):
Oh, we'll say yeah, yeah. Oh, here's another one. He
a great uh what are they called a great uh?
What are they called a great golf shot? That's another one.
Oh what a great golf I mean, oh, golf or
there golf shot? Oh, golf shot. Well it wasn't a
baseball toss, you know, so yeah, it was golf shot.
But I love golf lingle like I've talked about, and

(02:13:37):
solid ball strikers at the top of the list, there's
no doubt about it. Yeah, roll Rolling rocks, any of them.
We could go all day with Oh yeah this, Hey
tell you what this one? Uh win? It's like a
three and a half foot of this A little testy,
you know what I'm saying. Yeah, gotta have the flat
stick working for you. Spawn did down the stretch yesterday.

Speaker 3 (02:13:57):
Yes he did.

Speaker 8 (02:13:58):
Yes, he did for sure, Brandon John, see you guys
right there. We'll get you guys involved in the conversation.
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Speaker 1 (02:15:52):
Right, you're back.

Speaker 3 (02:15:54):
This is the Sean Salisbury Show. Get back at it, Brandon,
what's up, buddy.

Speaker 19 (02:16:00):
Good morning? That was a good walkoff. I'm Moaisio Dubon.

Speaker 8 (02:16:03):
I was gonna say that was a good one. Cam
Smith's on Saturday. That was fun.

Speaker 3 (02:16:07):
It was a fun weekend. Brandon.

Speaker 19 (02:16:09):
Yeah, did you watch it, Dan?

Speaker 3 (02:16:11):
All of them? Every single minutes of all three games? Yes?
I did.

Speaker 19 (02:16:16):
Hey did you do the post game yesterday?

Speaker 3 (02:16:19):
I did? Yes?

Speaker 10 (02:16:21):
How did you do?

Speaker 8 (02:16:22):
I mean, I guess the audience will tell me, yeah,
tell I guess the audience would tell me how I did.

Speaker 3 (02:16:28):
But felt feel like I did? Okay?

Speaker 19 (02:16:32):
Who did the post game on Saturday?

Speaker 3 (02:16:35):
Ross?

Speaker 1 (02:16:35):
That was?

Speaker 8 (02:16:36):
That was a Sports RV production. You get Matt Thomas tonight,
so look forward to that.

Speaker 19 (02:16:45):
Matt is fun.

Speaker 8 (02:16:46):
He is, he is, He's the best. But yeah, Astro's
playing good baseball, Brandon.

Speaker 19 (02:16:51):
You know what I'm playing wins my collars against. I'm
trying to find the matchup for Rance.

Speaker 8 (02:17:00):
Yeah, it's going to be a bullpen day, I believe
for the A's. And I saw who their starter was earlier.
But I'm losing it right now.

Speaker 3 (02:17:12):
Let's put it down. That's what it seems like. Yep,
good chef.

Speaker 8 (02:17:19):
Yeah, it's uh, it was TBD yesterday for who the
starter would be, and.

Speaker 3 (02:17:24):
I guess you're going to see a bunch of them.

Speaker 8 (02:17:27):
Yeah, and uh, at least on the MLB site they
still have it. But I saw that h was it Spence?
I think it was the picture that the A's were
going to go with. I believe it was. And he's
mostly a reliever, so yeah, it's gonna be a bullpen
day for them.

Speaker 9 (02:17:43):
Good for the Astros, I mean, although sometimes those bullpen days,
you see, you never get a beat on the guy,
right because you're facing so many different ones. But it's
a perfect chance to grab three or four more and
go on, who is it mccallors tonight?

Speaker 3 (02:17:57):
Yeah, it's mcallors.

Speaker 9 (02:17:57):
Yeah, And had a good chance for him to continue
to work himself into deeper into games and control the
walks and go, you know, get his swing and miss
and get him into this series with a with a
one tozero start, continue and that would make it you
know six, what's they're five or six, six out of
seven and that'd be well on pace to do what

(02:18:18):
we expected them to do in the series, and that
was to dominate these thirteen games, or at least close.

Speaker 8 (02:18:22):
Yeah, Mitch Spence expected to get the start tonight, and
maybe it's not going to be a bullpen because the
last two times he started went five innings against the
Twins and then went five against the Angels, and then
both of those starts he only gave up one earned run.

Speaker 9 (02:18:37):
Well, I can tell you this, if they went into
a bullpen start and both of them they're saying, man,
we got a lot of depth out of that. One
out of one started still saved us. So yeah, you
know what it'll be. It'll just be how are we flowing?
How are we doing? I mean, how is he pitching?
And so you're hoping if you're the Astros, you see
a whole bunch of bullpen early in the game, but
clutch hits over the weekend.

Speaker 3 (02:18:56):
We're big for the Astros.

Speaker 8 (02:18:57):
Well and especially too where you know you are in
your schedule, You've got seven games in seven days, and
I mean you got a four game series here, So
I mean, if you can tire out that bullpen a
little bit, maybe if tonight doesn't go your way, then
you're able to get one a little bit later on
this series because they're a little short handed back.

Speaker 9 (02:19:14):
There absolutely no question about it. And if and shorthand,
it's a good thing if you can go let's say
you went three or four and then you got your
final of the then you go three straight right after
there was thirteen straight days. Correct, So it is these
types of runs where you're in that ten to fifteen
games against teams that you can beat. These are the

(02:19:36):
one that Dan, you just absolutely have to. And if
I'd also told you that they'd be doing this, even
though you saw what they did without Tucker last year,
that they'd be doing that this without Jordan, you wouldn't
have bought into it, especially when Tucker and and Bregmant
aren't on the roster as well, which adds to the
I don't know if it's intrigue, shock, wow, amazed, just

(02:20:00):
kind of damn how do they keep doing whatever whatever
it is that you use phrase you use. It's been
nothing short of fascinating to watch them survive and do
more than that, thrive, and that's what they didn't. But
it all points back to the guy who's gonna take
them mount, and the guy take them ount over the weekend,
and the guy on Saturday and the guy on Friday.
They're pitching has been just superb this year.

Speaker 8 (02:20:21):
Well, I mean, you know, you head down to your car,
march the second you see behind you lightening all of that,
and the Lorrean comes popping out of nowhere. Doc Brown
gets out, Sean, the Astros are not gonna have Jordan
Alvarez for thirty plus games this year.

Speaker 9 (02:20:36):
Yeah, oh, Maudie, Yeah, yeah, Well if you'd told me that,
I say, and you Bregman and Tucker aren't a part
of the team.

Speaker 3 (02:20:43):
Either, They're not.

Speaker 9 (02:20:44):
Yeah, well, it's gonna be a gonna have to survive
the season. Well again, thrives a pretty good word to
use for them, and they're kicking ass doing it right now.

Speaker 8 (02:20:53):
No, they are, I mean, And that's the thing is,
I saw Ross's tweet last.

Speaker 3 (02:20:57):
I mean a longer than I mean.

Speaker 9 (02:21:00):
They may not be able to say it for you know,
thirty more games in a row, and they will go
through a little lull, but the truth of the matter
is good pitching travels man, and they are doing a
good job of it.

Speaker 8 (02:21:10):
The three, four or five game losing streak is going
to happen, of course, we're going to do that show the.

Speaker 3 (02:21:15):
Guess who else is going to happen?

Speaker 9 (02:21:17):
For the Dodgers, the Phillies, the Yankees, the Red Sox,
the Giants who just got Devers. It's going to happen
to all of them. You just don't want three of
those six seven game losing streaks throughout and you hope
it's not six or seven that if you lose a
series and get swept that you go and take the
game four or the next game in another place. But
you just can't have a lot of them. But it's

(02:21:38):
inevitable in one hundred and sixty two game season, they're
going to go through the man what happened the last
five days, and it will be heightened because that's the
way it is. It's just always true. We're more oh
my gosh if things aren't going well for a couple
of games than we are oh my gosh when things
are going really well for a handful of games. This
has been an oh my gosh start to their season
considering all that they had to go through and what

(02:21:58):
they have to run out there right now.

Speaker 8 (02:22:00):
A good reason too, because I mean this time last
year you were what it was?

Speaker 3 (02:22:03):
Was this the time last year that they started to
make their back? Yes?

Speaker 9 (02:22:06):
Is this around the time the moves started as they
you know, they did. Dania said if we can I
can remember him saying, if we can get you know,
to this certain record, get the five hundred or better
by August, then we'll do it. And they got they
they got to it in July and I can't remember when,
but right around now, maybe a week or so later,

(02:22:27):
is when they started that run of Oh okay, this
is this is the street Dane had been talking about.

Speaker 3 (02:22:33):
Maybe that's this one that he's been talking about this year.

Speaker 8 (02:22:35):
Well, I mean, hopefully he's right again about the Bats,
because I mean, yeah, you'd like to get jord On
back in. You'd like to get a healthy East SoC Pretis,
and like for Christian Walker to actually realize what Christian
Walker has been the last few years with the Bat,
because that would be nothing but positive.

Speaker 3 (02:22:50):
Yiner two.

Speaker 8 (02:22:51):
I mean, for all the good things that Yin's done
at the plate, I mean it's it's still a situation
with him where you're like, man, come on and where
is it?

Speaker 9 (02:22:59):
You know, But they're also hoping I think the same
effect you got from Painia moving down to the leadoff
spot was like, oh new energy. I think also putting
on Jiner to be more selective in the two hole, right,
and you know, the method of moving around till they
get comfortable once he gets rolled and then you got
him in the middle of the lineup. But they've they
seem to try and to adjust to make sure that

(02:23:21):
the guy they need to get hot, is put in
the position to get hot, and hopefully that'll be the case.
Getting better well, where Diaz starts to roll, kind of
like Payna has and like we hope Alvarez does when
he gets back healthy.

Speaker 8 (02:23:33):
Well, I mean, even you know you've had up and
down times out of Altuba this year. I mean you
at any given point have been batting two or three
guys down. Oh, there's no doubt during this point throughout
this season. And I mean the flip side of that
is exactly what we talked about. Jake Myers has been
outstanding Painia when you've moved him to the lead off spot,
how good he's been. So you can only hope that

(02:23:53):
it continues to be this good for the Stross.

Speaker 9 (02:23:56):
I thank you fair to say that. Jake Myers, Jeremy
Pania and Jake Myers Jeremy Pina, let's let's just stick
with those two are having career years.

Speaker 3 (02:24:08):
We talked about the need for it.

Speaker 9 (02:24:10):
Especially when guys that are used to having career years
aren't in the lineup, aren't on the roster, or are hurt.

Speaker 8 (02:24:16):
Yeah, it's impressive, no, it is. And being eleven games
over five hundred is definitely that. The Astros interplay Tonight
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Speaker 1 (02:26:08):
Hey, Man look At.

Speaker 5 (02:26:09):
SEAN i got a little thing to tell you About
Rapia devils AFTER i finished talking about Dash. Gos look,
MAN i am not surprised what Dash goo's doing when
they made that trade For perellis And Kristian walker thirty
home run. Hitters of, Course christian walker't quite came around,
yet BUT i got bull faith he. WILL i knew
then With avarez and the rest of the, guys this

(02:26:32):
may be the best officive team they've had in a
while since twenty seventeen.

Speaker 1 (02:26:36):
Points i'm concerned and it's.

Speaker 5 (02:26:38):
Gonna get a lot better when that pitching get a
little bit more healthy And avareds get. Back Kristan, walker do, Okay,
listen The astros can go to The World. Series This
american lead you got The yankee w ain't worried about.
Them they don't have no heart when it comes down
to getting them the big money. Games they don't have.

(02:26:58):
Heart but listen and sew WHAT i wanted to tell, you,
MAN i know you're A Red sox, fan And i'm
okay with them.

Speaker 1 (02:27:04):
Too Rafael devil's.

Speaker 5 (02:27:05):
Man look when you trade a, player man and like
that that caliber in the middle of the, season, say,
man it's been some bad noise going on in that locker.

Speaker 1 (02:27:16):
Room you know you can have a.

Speaker 5 (02:27:18):
Player, man that's just the math contain in the locker,
room and it makes everybody. Unhappy and even if even
If bregman said where they get along and all, that
they probably, do but anything That devils was saying about
not playing third base and all this and, that what
that does is Peg. Gregman and in a, way you,
know you kind of like WHAT i really don't like

(02:27:39):
it that you, Hear, man because you taking my. Spot
listen the thing about players WHAT i don't. Like you,
know when you broke and you pour, it you don't
have any, money you shut your mop and you don't say.
Nothing the minute you get a big, contract now all
of a sudden you think the game is bigger than.
You you, know, no they probably did the right. Thing
man with Raffiell devil was because he can plays like

(02:28:01):
that can bring a team down.

Speaker 9 (02:28:02):
There you know what's interesting, Too, john think about that
first or second year. Guys if you, said, hey, man
we're Bringing bregman and let's say Raw hills in his second,
year and we know he's a good, hitter but and
he comes in and say we're gonna Move bregman to third.
Base as a second year, guy you, know you, say,
okay what do you need me? For where DO i?
Go i'll play anywhere you want me. To and then
five six years later you're a star of the. League

(02:28:22):
it's LIKE I a'm moving and you're a star because
you're a great. Hitter he's not a great. Defender so
you make a great, Point, john on that one hundred,
Percent AND i will tell you, this AND i agree
With Steve sparks And i've said this. More WHAT i
always say is the headache bigger than the. Talent BUT
i can tell you this that if you are Trading
john like you said this time of year before the trade,
dead we're a month plus away from, that and you're

(02:28:44):
trading him now for a guy you just signed two
years ago to a three hundred million dollar contract who's
got AN ops over nine hundred and has been a
great hitter since he's been. There to get rid of
him now before you know even where your team's, going
and you just swept The, yankees there's something far deeper
going on there. Now WHEN i say, far he doesn't
mean something's gonna come out that they got in a.
Fistfight but there's a little bit bigger headache than we

(02:29:06):
can even see from the talker spring training and twit
and end of the season of changing. Positions you're one,
correct no doubt about.

Speaker 5 (02:29:13):
It AND i you, know AND i believe that The
Red sox when they traded For gregman and they gave
him that big contract and And Rafia devils was already
dead with the big. CONTRACT i believe that management for
The Red sox they call themselves having a couple of
stars and and and building their team.

Speaker 1 (02:29:32):
To make the.

Speaker 5 (02:29:32):
PLAYOFFS i don't think this trade was about them not
wanting to pay.

Speaker 1 (02:29:36):
HIM i think they are.

Speaker 3 (02:29:38):
Part yes it, WAS i, know, Yeah, johnny that's WHAT i.

Speaker 5 (02:29:41):
Mean DON'T i don't think they traded him because they
didn't want to Pay they didn't want to pay him
any more of that big. CONTRACT i believe that it
was too much going on in the locker, room was
killing that, team Man edd and trade For brigman to
get rid Of.

Speaker 3 (02:29:58):
Rafiel y'all have a Good, John.

Speaker 9 (02:30:00):
Willy bregman was a free agent, Anyway but that's. Okay
it's neither here or. There he wasn't going to be.
Here but you make a great point about, That, JOHN
i do know. This when the season started and when
they Brought bregman, there they obviously had their intentions weren't
To devers was not going anywhere at that. Time i'm
talking about when it first came up That bregman was
going to sign. There before we knew, this When bregman

(02:30:22):
was still not, signed they Wanted devors to be a
part Of there's no doubt then when this comes, in
there's a little bit of. Headache make no, Mistake John
henry does not want to. Pay they signed the, contract
but they're okay shedding some of that. Salary and what
made it easier is the complaints about moving. Positions so
it's both are. True it may be a little bit
bigger pain than the ass in the clubhouse than the,

(02:30:42):
salary but when you combine them, both it's not going
to Hurt John henry the owner's feelings that they're not
paying three hundred million dollars to, THEM i assure. You
but it's it's somewhere else other than just what you.
Read to get rid of him now they had to
just crew old for.

Speaker 8 (02:30:59):
Them it could also be The pineapple and the pizza story.
Earlier that could be in the clubhouse where it's, hey,
dude just go take grounders at first.

Speaker 3 (02:31:07):
Base just just go do, it, okay and and and
then him not do it.

Speaker 9 (02:31:11):
Right it's to the point where it's, like AND i,
understand you're a powerful player because on the field and
with your, voice because you're a good, player which equals
power and pro sports and college sports and high school. Sports,
now but the truth of the matter is we're an
organization that you're you're you're not going to dictate where
we're putting our best players in.

Speaker 3 (02:31:28):
Truth no should?

Speaker 8 (02:31:29):
You then it becomes you, know you're just at your. Locker,
hey can we talk to you for a.

Speaker 3 (02:31:33):
Second?

Speaker 8 (02:31:33):
Oh you, know you Know rafi you know what's going
on with? Them where it's just, like, DUDE i don't
want to answer these. Questions this isn't my. Problem why
is this now my? Problem everybody else has to talk right?

Speaker 9 (02:31:43):
Right and then it's to the point where everything you
say just to Be if this is the case where
it's like confrontations like a, raffia will you grab me
a gatorade while you're?

Speaker 10 (02:31:51):
Up?

Speaker 9 (02:31:52):
No you GET i, mean you, Know i'm just being.
Hyperbolic but you get to a point where it's that
or it almost becomes that every single thing's a. Task
and if that's the case for a great, hitter you
get to a point where you, SAY i just can't
do it.

Speaker 3 (02:32:05):
Well playing in places Like boston is hard. Enough yes it.

Speaker 8 (02:32:07):
Is and you continue to turn the flame up on
the stove with, that and you're having to answer those
questions maybe you're going through your own. Struggles then it
can kind of get to a point of resentment where it's, like,
hey why AM i answering both questions for you.

Speaker 9 (02:32:19):
Write no question about. It the team, right there is
no doubt About it's a great. Point And i'll tell
you this too that this would still sting big time
if they did this hadn't they had a. History but
the fact that just five years ago they Let bets
go for Minimal you're, like.

Speaker 3 (02:32:33):
This is the best player in The American, league what
are you?

Speaker 9 (02:32:35):
Doing and then complain that you don't have enough pitching
right and bets endeavors are. Gone, okay so now you
just limited yourself two more runs a. Game so, YEAH
i hate it BECAUSE i like good bats in, Lineup
but there is no doubt that this is. That this
just and, hey we love, you it's time to. Go
you've been a great. Teammate we're getting rid of you
two years into a three hundred and plus, man you

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know you're not and neither is He, okay he wants
to play. NOW i don't know what they're going to
do In San, francisco but the glove at third's already
got a more than one gold, glove so you ain't
getting that third base position unless he, Says i'll go
to first base for. Him but it's not strengthening your
defense by Putting devors at third.

Speaker 8 (02:33:15):
Base never Has Wilmer flora has been playing first, base
and he's been doing a pretty good.

Speaker 1 (02:33:18):
Job.

Speaker 8 (02:33:19):
Rids it's not like that that's really an option. Either
SO i don't think the outfield is going to be
there for. Him but That's San francisco's problem to deal.

Speaker 3 (02:33:27):
With JD. C you're right.

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War Sean salisbury On Sports talk seven NINETY, jd what's going, ON.

Speaker 20 (02:35:14):
Jd i'd like to see The astros bring back the
first basement we had the three first basement. Ago he
won the batting title and it was From.

Speaker 1 (02:35:24):
Cuba what was his.

Speaker 20 (02:35:25):
Name he's a free agent or was a day or two.
AGO i think he still. IS i think that a low,
risk low, risk and give, him give him a chance
to prove himself, again because it seems in baseball when
you give people a reason to do, well they do.

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Well they all have the, talent some more than, others
but they all have, talent AND i think he would
be better than what we've had the last two or three.

Speaker 1 (02:35:54):
YEARS i appreciate.

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Up, THANKS.

Speaker 8 (02:35:57):
Jd appreciate. It juliguriel is not going to be An
astro ever. Again that's as far as we'll take. It Christian,
walker for as bad as it's been at times with
the bat this, year still has nine home, runs still
HAS i think thirty three runs batted. IN i don't
have the stats in front of, me but the average
has not been, great strikeouts have been. High he's played
an outstanding defensive first, base and he's still got two

(02:36:19):
years at forty plus million left on his.

Speaker 9 (02:36:21):
DEAL i Love JD's, passion, SURE i Think JD's been
a caller on the show.

Speaker 3 (02:36:24):
Before julie did great things for this.

Speaker 9 (02:36:26):
Team he sure, did AND i get his love for,
Him but that ship sailed a long time.

Speaker 8 (02:36:32):
Ago he's also he's not playing first base forty one
and he hit one eleven when he GOT df eight
by The San Diego.

Speaker 9 (02:36:38):
Pott it's it's AND i get his love because the
history and you feel good and he was here during good,
times and you know it Was dan, good really good,
Defensively you're it's not an upgrade going From Christian walker
To yuli at this, stage.

Speaker 8 (02:36:51):
Not even, closed all. Right so The iranian military messed
around and kicked the hornets. Nest that IS sec football Fan,
Twitter so On, twitter the, greatest one of the greatest
week of Things i've ever. Seen how they turned it,
into how they turned it around and made it AN
sec that was friggin. Priceless you go ahead explain. It

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BUT i was laughing my ass. Off so after one
of the military strikes From iran On, israel this will
not be a mere demonstration of will or technological. Capability
this time our response will be lethal at big content
guy On twitter response week's schedule don't play, anybody Eatn
alive in the sec followed back up by Bo Jingle's Sweet.

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TEAM i Take Mississippi state in the points, first this,
bunch you don't play the game through the press and
give them bulletin board.

Speaker 3 (02:37:42):
Material their coaches are probably piest right.

Speaker 8 (02:37:45):
Now then out of control with the kin as part
of the out of Control Kirby smart hasn't lost a
home game in years and around just got their doors
blown off on their home. Turf our good, Buddy Mark,
passwaters he's a listener Of aggie yell and with the arrivals.

Speaker 3 (02:38:03):
Real quick And mark to your.

Speaker 9 (02:38:05):
POPS i, KNOW i think it's his pops that's going
through some health.

Speaker 8 (02:38:08):
Issues DID i read that over the? WEEKEND i THOUGHT
i think it was not as. Mine i'm pretty sure
it's his. Father i'll check it.

Speaker 9 (02:38:13):
Out i'm pretty sure BECAUSE i COMMENTED i want to
make sure it's just the, five BUT i know It's,
MARK i mean, obviously BUT i just want to send
prayers out for his family for, sure BECAUSE i know
how much it, matters and With Father's day, being you,
know having passed On, SUNDAY i hope. THAT i hope
the news gets better and improves For mark and his.
Family absolutely. Do thinking about your, brother and he's always

(02:38:35):
been a you, know he's really good AND i Love.

Speaker 8 (02:38:38):
MARK i hope it's okay for. HIM i know those
are tough. Times he's assault of the earth, dude as
you can. Be he, writes their defense is. PATHETIC a
and m would run all OVER A moss would probably
get one hundred and fifty on their. Ass another guy
responding to The iranian tweet the kitchen pickleball they lose
To vandy and then finally back at The Regal. Beagle

(02:38:59):
iran IS Ivy league at. Best SO i don't think
that The iranian military when they fired that off On,
twitter thought that they were going to catch the ire
OF sec football. Fans but you got to have your
head on the, swivel especially when it comes TO Sec.

Speaker 3 (02:39:13):
Twitter they took THE l and are taking THE l
in more ways than.

Speaker 9 (02:39:16):
One, Dude i'm just telling You that was so clever
when people chimed in on. That and the truth is
not only they lose a home, game they got their
ass handed to them on their own.

Speaker 3 (02:39:26):
Turf they, did.

Speaker 9 (02:39:27):
AND i think you talk about the f around and
find out they surely.

Speaker 8 (02:39:31):
Did If phyllis And, mulga famously of The Paul Fine
bomb show shoes still with, Us phyllis would let you, Know,
iman whoever it.

Speaker 3 (02:39:38):
Is they ain't playing Nobody. Powell i'll tell you what.

Speaker 9 (02:39:41):
Though uh their putter was on, point meaning The israeli
putter was on point because they were they dialed in
solid ball, strike solid solid stick Was catty, Says, hey,
man you know, what it's. Left hit that seven iron
with a little, draw but you want to be a little,

(02:40:03):
long use that. Backstop but, uh that's as long as
it's the right. Club oh power. Draw they had the
right club on. Man absolutely had no doubt about.

Speaker 8 (02:40:12):
It, Man as you, mentioned solid ball, strikers, right great
up and down.

Speaker 9 (02:40:16):
Game that's that's what The. Gramblers, yes they wait to wait.
Up it had to come, down that's. It they sure
they found out that was so. Clever over the, WEEKEND
i was laughing my ass.

Speaker 3 (02:40:26):
Off good.

Speaker 8 (02:40:26):
JOB sec football fans gotta gotta LOVE Sec. Twitter gotta
love The Sea On salisbury show, too because we had
some fun. Today He's Shawn, Triple Emmanuel, Elmore Dan, Matthews
The Matt Thomas show With ross coming up.

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Next we will talk to you in twenty hours