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Speaker 1 (00:02):
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Two dribbler third base side charging Clement bear Hands throws
the first out in time on two base stores Paynya
with a thirteen game hit streak thanks to that infield
RBI single what nothing Astros the one oh brown ball
up the middle pass Basset pits off the back and
goes in the center field around third. Albarez in the

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third goes Paynya. Astros lead two to nothing. Christian Walker
with his fifth RBI, gets an assist from second base
two thirty four hitter to seventy five on base percentage,
and he grounds the first pitch left side deep in
the whole paint. You grabs it jumped through the first
gout of I play that Derek Jeter made famous at

(01:08):
Church Stop for all those years. Jeremy Payta does it
extremely well himself, and there are two away, two strike
pitch and that's lifted in the left field down the
lineup base hit around third. Walker he will score Rogers
on his way to third and the second with an
RBI double a Jiner d S four to one Astros.

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He got a slow breaking ball away, stayed back on
it and served it in the left field on one pitch,
breaking ball that could be looking up. Go good one
for Paradis.

Speaker 3 (01:49):
Landry's Crawford box. As we go, and it's five to one,
and that's where it stays.

Speaker 7 (01:55):
The Astros beating the Blue Jays last night to win
the series, and they're gonna go for the sweep a
little bit later on this afternoon. Rockets GEME two tonight
over at Toyota Center. They trail Golden State one ohero
in the series. In the NFL Draft Round one coming
up tomorrow, Texans currently set to pick twenty fifth overall.
With all that we say, away we go and good

(02:16):
morning here on the Sean Salisbury Show. Oh, I mean
good pitching, good fielding. Jeremy Pania, I mean I think
he also he raked yesterday. Well the Semantics here. I
guess if I'm going to be Adam Wesler is he
had three hits.

Speaker 3 (02:35):
That's for sure.

Speaker 7 (02:36):
He got on base, and it just goes to show
you the game of baseball. That what's the old saying, Hey,
that broken bat single is just as good as a
one on one right off the bat, right up the middle.

Speaker 3 (02:48):
And that's what Jeremy Payne did. Yeah, on the start,
I mean when they jumped out to the lead that inning,
they didn't smoke the ball all over the lot, you know,
one's kicking off a bat. I mean, it was it
was like man, they got the lead and no ball
jumped off the bat, and then they took care of
their business. And good to see Christian Walker a lot.

(03:11):
I mean, even though it wasn't you know, deep ball
getting on base what three times yesterday and penya and
putting the ball. When you put the ball and play
you got a good chance. You at least got a change,
novel concept, no doubt. And then Renel Blanco doing his
thing looked really good with six and two thirds, and
then the bullpen did it again. All the complainers about

(03:33):
and I get it why there was frustration with Josh Hader.
We expected him to come back and be better than
he was last year. Has he blown a save yet?
There you go. So for the same reason you were
frustrated to start last year or frustrated with him at times,
you got to be pleased with the way he's pitching
and the bullpen. You know, a Bray you did his gig.

(03:54):
They all stepped up and did their thing. And Blanco
when you get six and two thirds innings and this
ball and continues to do that. You saw Whitley over
the weekend do his thing or was it Monday night? Yeah,
it was Monday. There you go. I keep getting to
today's Wednesday. I'm losing my mind. That's all the days
run together. It's true, man, It's like, what what there

(04:14):
we Especially when a holiday hits. You know what I'm saying,
You're like, they lose the day gain to day. What
am I doing here?

Speaker 7 (04:19):
So that was something I never really understood until I
started this gig, and that is you know, it's like, hey,
you know, oh man, that was like three weeks ago.

Speaker 3 (04:26):
Right, No, it was last week. It's true. And because
you're watching so many sports, you can't tell. And then
over the weekend when you go Friday, it's like Friday, Saturday, Sunday,
You're trying to get them all in to say, was
that Friday you got that hit? Was that Saturday that
he came out of the bullpen or got the start? Listen,
when you're asked, when you can get Blanco to go
six and two thirds and you post five runs, and

(04:48):
he did that, and then the bullpen does their thing,
you're gonna win a lot of games. And it was impressive.
There's still a long way to go, obviously, but I
see some guys it looks like paying you what's his
average above two fifty? Now al twove still seems like
every other day he's getting a hit or two and
got what was he one for five last night? But
still getting on base and impressive, impressive performance Blanco and

(05:10):
the bullpen. And then it's a novel concept. When you
give a good pitching staff five runs, good things are
going to happen. And you, in truth you think about
this now, if Blanco continues to do this, you know
fromber is gonna eat innings. Look at the way Hunter
Brown's pitching. Your first three guys are now six to
seven inning guys. The way they're pitching right now, which
is the bullpen will be fresh ball, and you get

(05:33):
Whitley continuing to do his thing, and depending on mccullors
and Gusto goes to the bullpen, you're gonna have some bodies. Man,
So to me, the most underrated thing when when I
constantly hear them with team he went four and two
thirds or five and a third or four and two
thirds or four and a third or three and a third,
five and a third. That's not good enough. I'm talking

(05:54):
around baseball. It's just not because you're going to tax
people and you're gonna need more than five starters throughout
the season anyway, and then you tax the bullpen. To me,
just that one extra or extra two you know, inning
and two thirds to get him into the now. And
now you look, there's a little bit of old school
to this. We're gonna run you by. I saw it
in Boston as well yesterday watching the game.

Speaker 8 (06:15):
Yes.

Speaker 3 (06:15):
The reason I say it, Bail gets up there and
he's this is his first start. He was being banged
up and he was like fourteen and six or fourteen
and eight last year. He comes out there, starts to
cramp up, and he's pushing up this his first start.
Back Core walks off the mound. After they after they
went out and visited him, he had a few warm
up tosses. See if the cramp go with stays back in.

(06:36):
You're thinking, okay, he's pushing eighty pitches spot. Do you
really expect him to come out the next thing? They
ran him out there the next inning. It's like they're
pushing the envelope on some guys too, say you know what,
we got to do better here, And it was the
perfect time. He said, well let me let me get
him out. He's had his you know. And he started
off the game giving up the home run, hitting two people,
and they kept him in, fought through it. The reason

(06:58):
I say that is, are we trending towards expect more
out of your starting pitching And when they're at the way,
you know they're at the at the at the building
to a crescendo, Well, is that crescendo five and two thirds?
Or let's run him back out there and let them
work there unless they're getting hammered or your team's winning
by nine, right and you want to rest them. But
I was impressed with Blanco and I'm impressed with the

(07:21):
Astro staff. If the hitting matches the pitching the way
it's been, this team's going to be. This team's gonna
even though it looks different, it's there. They're going to
be hanging around because we know they know how to win.
Even though there's new bodies and Paradis continues to impress.
I mean in the long ball, I mean I think
he still leads a team at home runs and added

(07:41):
another one. Well, I mean you heard Sparky he said
good wood. Yeah, so there you go. You know, whenever
you can get a good wood out of spark you think,
you know, Steve Sparks, things are good. So I was
I'm in. I'm impressed with Blanco. I didn't know what
I was going to get out of him this year.
You know, it's it's hard to come back and do
that after what he's been through and then at thirty
years old has his best year. Well, hell, maybe he

(08:01):
hasn't had his best year. Yesterday was impressive. It was
nice to see.

Speaker 7 (08:04):
Yeah, you definitely, you know, worry about is there a
chance of there's a shelf life that's reached the most
he pitched in a well. I mean, this is a
guy that was a big winter ball guy, and they
talked about he didn't do that this year because of
that very reason. The Astros i think pretty much just
said to him, hey, take it easy. Throw Yeah, yeah,
I mean you know, I know you enjoy doing that,

(08:25):
but there's a there's a bigger picture here.

Speaker 3 (08:27):
It's funny too.

Speaker 7 (08:28):
You mentioned Kora because you know the Bao coming back
to pitch for them yesterday and somebody had asked him
something to the effect of his development or whatever, and
he quickly was like, no, Look, we're out of the
development thing now, Like that's that's done. We're we're winning
ball games, like that's what we're focused on here. The
Astros have been at that place for some time, and

(08:48):
I think that you're kind of seeing that these last
few games. I mean, am I am I seeing this
incorrectly that? I mean, you've got guys that you can
count on. We know, we know who jose Al twov is,
we know what you're can be, you know, but you
get to guys like Cam Smith and Jake Myers, Brendan Rodgers,
who's starting to swing a good bat even though he's
a developed guy in this game, that you're looking to

(09:10):
guys to say, hey, what you've done, maybe taken just
a step further, and this team can do some things.

Speaker 3 (09:17):
Oh, there is no doubt about it. And the point
you're talking about about Cora and whether it's Cora and
Aspata with the same approach to this. The truth is,
we're not developing Hunter Brown anymore. I mean, you continue
to develop, don't misunderstand me, and continue to work on stuff.
But it's not like the stay complacent, right, But you're
not sitting back talking as if you know, the treating

(09:41):
the player as if he's a developmental player. You're just not.
And it'd be easy to do. But hell, you know,
in the case of Cora and Bao, the guy's fourteen
to eight last year. Yeah, the most wins on the staff.
So you run him out there saying listen, there's a
toughness in a message that needs to be said not
only to you, but to all your ball club behind
you that know, a cramp you know, I'm taking a cramp. No, no,

(10:03):
pitch through the cramp.

Speaker 9 (10:04):
Man.

Speaker 3 (10:04):
We'll get now if you can't. But you pitch through.
It's not it's not structural. It's a cramp, you know.
Take care of your business and we'll run you out
there and then run you out there another inning. So
I'm impressed in the same thing here. The truth is
the Hunter Brown and renew Blancos past that he's a cage.
He's been pitching a while now. It just looked different
last year because at thirty he had his best year.
So yeah, I don't there you are. The developmental stage

(10:29):
is for cam Smith, he's learned how to get through it. Yeah,
we're developing. That's exactly right. But Christian Walker, you're in
your mid thirties man, so while while you're you're constantly
getting better and studying and doing all those things, and
you know, tweaking mechanics. But the expectations in Boston we
just mentioned here with Renelle Blanco, the expectation is, yeah,

(10:51):
let's soft sell him. Hell no, when did his thing?
Give me six and two thirds? And the you have
expectations of them, which in turn is their expectations of themselves. Usually,
I've always been a believer. You pretty much are what
you think you are and how your environment and the
people around you. You believe you're one hundred and fifty
million dollar sales team, you'll probably end up being one

(11:14):
hundred and fifty million dollar sales team. Believe you're a
three hundred million dollar sales team in the same industry,
same business, but have a different attitude in the conference room,
you'll probably be a three hundred million dollar business And
there is something to that. Same thing here. I don't
think Renelle Blanco looks at himself as a guy trying
to survive it. I think he looks at himself. I
did that last year, and I'm here to show you
that not only do I belong as three and everybody

(11:34):
wanting to be the one guy. And I think that's
an attitude that comes with it. It's not an overswagger
or a problem. I think it's part of the early
developmental phase where they instill in you that this is
how what expectations. It's the same act like you belong.
That's exactly right. I mean, that's that's what and pitch
like it or hit like it. Sure.

Speaker 7 (11:52):
And I think that the other part of this too,
that you know, if I'm following along correctly here, is
that you hear this a lot in college especially once
you get to conference championship weekend in college football and
and you know bowl season is hey, this guy being
a freshman, And more often than not, what do you
hear head coaches at that point say, these guys aren't
freshmen anymore. They've played X amount of games. They know

(12:15):
what to expect at this point that the newness is gone.

Speaker 3 (12:19):
Yeah, and eight games in as a freshman the way
like college football is or basketball. A lot of times
that guy's one of the best players on your team
if he's was recruited right, and you developed him and
prepared him right, those dudes, we no longer like he's
seventeen or eighteen. Let's give him till he's twenty. He's twenty,
he's transferred twice, yes, and somebody else is getting the

(12:42):
benefits of your training. It's it's the truth. So I
recruit you. Here's the way I honestly, here's the way
I look at it.

Speaker 10 (12:50):
Now.

Speaker 3 (12:50):
If when I recruit you and I play you, if
I don't play, I'm expecting the fact that I'm probably
going to have to replace you with a transfer ball,
honest to god. Yeah, So I'm treating every player like
in college football and basketball, like Okay, they're here, if
they've earned the job, they're going to play. But I
also have to prepare that even though they're a four star,
five star and they're backing up a guy, there's a

(13:10):
chance that at the end of this year, because I
didn't play them, they're going to leave. So there is
that pressure to discern from coaches as well, to say
the guy's not ready, But do I force feed him
in the lineup because in a you know, in college
basketball or baseball or football, because if I don't, he's
going to leave. Yet if I don't there the guy
in front of him, who's a sophomore is going to

(13:31):
turn around and leave. Like you're seeing at the university
at University of California at Los Angeles at UCLA, right
that hole, that guy leaves, the brother wants to come
and join his brother. I mean, it's crazy, right, So
you're actually coaching them now, Okay, I'm starting you, and
then your backup's a five star guy and a lot
of times he's just going to go get more money

(13:52):
or leave next year. So the coaches, while we say
the coaches jobs easier and all this stuff because all
the money and the rest of it, really it's harder
because of all the things you got to do, and
now money comes into play, and you really got to
discern am I playing the guy for money? Am I
playing the guy because he's the best player? And in
college that's what they have to do. But right now,
guys like Renelle Blanco, you get contribution out of the Blancos.

(14:15):
The Whitley's. Those guys are the Gusto's, you know, King
You're you expect your great players to do it. These are,
I don't want to say fringe players, the guys that,
oh one's been hurt, another was thirty last year, and
they continue to give you great play. Things will be really,
really good here, even though the bodies and the rappers
look a little different on the Astros this year. Yeah,
speaking of the college side of things, we'll get into

(14:36):
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Speaker 7 (14:41):
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Speaker 2 (16:02):
How about the performance.

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Speaker 7 (16:09):
The good we talked about with the Astros, I mean,
one of the things that I don't think can be
discounted is I mean, there's still parts of this team
that you look at and you're just like, ah, that
could be better.

Speaker 3 (16:20):
You know, yeah, that that could be better. What's your concern.
My concern is it's not even a concern.

Speaker 7 (16:26):
It's a what I threw out on Twitter last night
with Jord on bases loaded again, flies out the center.
That's fine, whatever, after all, two of a just struck out.
But it's with him a dude, he'd be really nice
to have that guy back again.

Speaker 3 (16:40):
You know, you can tell their tanker and as well,
because he's hitting the two hole now too, he's not
you know what I'm saying. It's almost like they're trying
to find the power bat. Okay, we had him, you know,
hit into three, and uh, let's move him up because
remember when they started the season last year were he
hit it was he was in a two hole. That's
where they want him. So moved him to there because

(17:00):
Parade has felt like, you know that that's a good
two hole hitter. But over the weekend, I can't remember
what day was. Once again, that Friday, Saturday, Sunday with
all the games where Jordon hitting the two hole, but
he did, and I don't so they're also trying to
find it. When do they get overly concerned? You're concerned now,
I'm here's why. I imagine the team is probably less

(17:23):
concerned than both of us, although there is concern. But
you see the guy every day, right, they're watching him,
bets say, once he does go, he's going to go
haywire on somebody. Right on those days like when Judge
is rolling where he hits ten home runs in a month,
Jordon's carries that ability. So there's I probably sit in
between you and them of concerned, But man, is it
going to be epic when he glass out full when

(17:45):
he unloads on somebody. You don't want to be the
fools that have to go pitch to him, right, And
then there's probably you, which is probably probably it's four tiered.
Astro's got this other control I bat. When you're around
it more, you kind of get an idea. I mean,
I see it is okay. If there's anybody on the
team I'm not worried about two months from now, it
feels like it should be him. You probably a little

(18:07):
more concerned, understandably, so trying to get out in front
of it a little proactive. What are we going to do.
I would imagine there's parts of the fan base that
are like, uh, give me Kyle Tucker and Ship Yordas.
I've seen that too. I've seen I have which is like, okay, guys, yeah,
we're less than twenty games or right around twenty games
in whatever.

Speaker 7 (18:26):
A buddy that used to sit in the seat that
you say that was the dumbest of the Hall of
Fame or something like that, right.

Speaker 3 (18:31):
And just say the here's the dumb astros Twitter thing
of the day, right or whatever it was. So so
I think I think it is for Tier Now. My
whole question is what's he thinking about his game and
here's the thing that can happen. I'm not saying for Jordan,
but just an apply it to my life or dayan
with your sports. Whether it's golf or whether it's baseball,
or whether it's height, it doesn't matter. It's all relative

(18:51):
to it doesn't matter the level. Right, how many of
us have been through the point where we are struggling,
like in baseball, you know, starting when I when I'm playing,
you go through it, and you're on a role in
high school and you do it and then all of
a sudden you go two games where you're one for
three because in high school one for three wasn't good enough?

Speaker 10 (19:07):
Right?

Speaker 3 (19:08):
Or one for four? Right? Yeah? One a gain? No,
I'm a three, I'm hitting four hundred. You forget that.
And you go through two games like that, what do
you do as a younger guy. You change your stance,
You may open it a little more, hold your hands
a little bit, justent like, dude, let's not tinker too much.
It's just two games, but it seems so epic. So
I'm wondering with one hundred and sixty two in him,
we're in an athlete when you've had this success that

(19:31):
Ordine is had, and as a quarterback plan there's times
when you're missing. You're like in a game saying, and
I need to change my arm slide. And when that
gets into your head, my point is now, it's the
point of diminishing returns because you're looking at it, you're
starting to think about things that just are naturally. Say
It's like when you drive to work, do you literally
think about the directions? You get in your car and

(19:51):
you get here and it's like, I didn't even think
about how I got here, You just showed up here.
It's like a sixteen year old driving a school You say,
I don't know the street names. I just know I
just drive to it. And as a hitter like you,
and I would imagine, listen, I've had this before. I
know how to do this. I've been successful. But what
happens when you get that pressure and you start to grind.
Whether it's a quarterback throwing, Jordon's hitting, it doesn't matter golfer.

(20:14):
What do they do? Change caddies? As I've watched Justin
Thomas from last year to this year, his preshot routine
is completely different than it's been in the past. He tinkered,
he won last week. It's really nice when you make
five puts over twenty feet in a four round tournament,
you got a chance to win, right, And so I'm
wondering when Jordon gets to the point he probably knows

(20:35):
he's got it completely under control. But there is that
mental We all been there where you start to adjust
and grind a little bit and sometimes you're adjusting the
wrong spot right because you think it And so that's
why another set of eyes.

Speaker 11 (20:46):
So I do.

Speaker 3 (20:47):
I think there's tears to this about where we are,
and think about it. If I told you to begin
of the season on April twenty second. Your biggest concern
at the plate, maybe because he's been so good, Your
biggest concern at the play is Jordan Alvarez on this team. Now,
I once you think about that for a second, you'd
have laughed at me, said, biggest concern, sehn, stop it

(21:10):
so okay, more concerned about breaking out of it. And
if he continues with consistent three hits for Christian Walker,
sure more concerned about breaking out of it him or Jordan.
I mean, I would probably go with Walker, just because
Jordon has done it a lot. There you go there,
he'd had more overall success, even the Walker has been

(21:31):
a pretty good pro, right, Yeah, a good player years,
no doubt. Arizona got a good player there, Yeah, and
I think we got one. So the point is, I mean,
of all the guys on the team, there's like two
or three. You say, of course he's going to bust
out of it. Of course he is. But the impatience
of the long ball two home runs, we can go
through the guys on the team that have more, and then.

Speaker 7 (21:52):
He remember he hit that second one and in the
following day it was the scheduled day off which is
just kind of like get this guy going, which I
know I hate that, but that's also too. I think
that's a mutual conversation at that point of Hey, look,
I know we talked about tomorrow, but.

Speaker 3 (22:06):
I need more bats. Let me go back out to.

Speaker 7 (22:09):
Say you just I mean, you just kind of took
the words out of my mouth. Like where it's a
do I put you back out there tomorrow? Maybe you
know we revisit this in a week or so.

Speaker 3 (22:17):
That's where player empowerment matters right to me. Hey, Mavan,
I'm feeling it. Let me go back out that. I
saw it good yesterday. I know it's a scheduled day off.
Can we move it? Yeah, Jay Tell yeah, you are
hon Is that what you feel? We can adjust that now.
There are times when you got to keep the player
get keep him out of his own way, you know
what I'm saying. It's like, dude, you've played forty seven
straight games. Let's let's sit you and we played a

(22:41):
night game last night. We've were about to sweep the series.
Take take a day off. You know, we're facing a
left hander, even though he's been he rakes against left
handers in his past. You get my point right, But
in that situation, it's almost if I'm the manager. I
was like, you know what he's seeing it? Well, he
suggested that we go. Let's go, let's check it out.
He's he's been here long enough to earn the right

(23:02):
to say I'm seeing it different. Let's run me back
out there tomorrow and let's see. And I agree with
you one hundred percent. But put it this way. I
asked you in Gordy yesterday. The guy that has to
be the key for the team. We know he's their
best hitter, I mean with power and bat and if
he is not Jordon, can the team get where they

(23:24):
want to go with the way they're pitching? Still? Can
you overcome Jordon Alvarez? Let's say he has a twenty
two home run year. Would somebody else have to have
an out of body experience like a paradus and hit
twenty eight this year? Or if you get the pitching,
you're getting six and two thirds, seven and a third,
seven innings and this bullpen, can you survive? You could

(23:45):
survive Jake Myers hitting two h five even though he's
sitting higher that can you survive Jordon Alvarez hitting two
seventy five two eighty twenty two home runs and seventy
five RBIs this year? Can you survive that? It's not
even the guys that you mentioned. It's Jeremy Pania, Okay,
so that look at it, right, and he's what little
he's over two fifty now, I think. So, I know

(24:07):
it's early average changes seven points with one game because
the number of it bats. But I've just wonted or
is it? I don't care about the pitching. If Jordan
doesn't get going, this team is one hundred and eighty
degrees different than they are when he's going.

Speaker 7 (24:20):
He's kind, I mean just kind of the you know,
the rocket Rockets example that we had from yesterday.

Speaker 3 (24:24):
He's the Jalen Green of this team. He goes as
they go as he goes. Yeah, and even more so
probably no very much.

Speaker 7 (24:31):
I mean just because you get those bases loaded situations.
I mean, you know, we've become accustomed to that guy
in that situation. It comes up where it's, oh man,
I don't have anywhere to put this guy, and you wonder,
if you know, one subtle mistake is going to be
a four run swing in this game?

Speaker 3 (24:48):
Right right now, they're subtle mistakes. The ball's not going
out of the ballpark. I'm talking about the pitcher's mistakes.
I just gosh, it's just hard for me to say. Man,
I didn't believe I didn't go or to was going
to go through Alex Bregman early on struggles. But it
will be hell to pay when he finally does. And
I don't know when that is, but we know at
some point that's happening. Just a matter when I always

(25:10):
think when something goes like this, is his lower half?
Is he okay? You know what I'm saying, even though
they won't say it, is he is he bothered by
something that he's fighting through. Is it just a simple
mechanical thing? And and he'll just see the ball better.
It's just an early start. But when he gets going,
it'll be nice because he can literally load you on
your back. The rest of the team can hit two
twenty when he's loading on your back and you get
six and two thirds from your starter, you're still gonna

(25:32):
win a lot of games. Like as you say, the
fielder Jordan Jordon have a bad year, of the field
have an average year, It's like, let the field have
an average year. If this guy's an MVP candidate, and
they pitch like they're supposed to, and that they have.
It's starting pitching, getting the bullpen work, They'll still be
in it. That's how important as bad is. That's something
to keep talking about. And I think another thing too,
that is a difference that a year makes. Both of

(25:53):
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My guy, I've The Shawn Salisbury Show continues.

Speaker 3 (27:41):
Yeah, legend. I mean when I was there, I mean,
he's his voice and his pipes and his professionalism. Mike
was spectacular. He really was.

Speaker 10 (27:50):
He just was.

Speaker 3 (27:50):
He's a pro and a pop. I mean, his voice
was so recognizable and it didn't matter if he was
covering footballer hoops. Everything Mike Patrick did was done tops
health and loved the guy. We lost, We lost the legend.
We've lost too many of them. But everybody loved Mike Patrick.
And he was a staple there for the longest time
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and college football and uh tough losses. And he'll be
remembered well by a lot of people in the industry
because all he did was his job and did it
work extremely well.

Speaker 7 (28:24):
Original voice on Sunday Night Football on ESPN when it
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You keep forgetting that. Mike Patrick called those things over
and above hoops and football.

Speaker 7 (28:38):
Right, yeah, and then also I mean probably the first
voice for SEC football on ESPN. I mean, because it
was before CBS came along. And obviously now you know,
ESPN is very much in lockstep and tied in with
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(28:59):
think it was Blackledge was with them. They were a
team for a while. Yeah, yep, doing those games and
always remembered, you know, would be George at Auburn or
somebody like that, Penn Wagers being one of the officials
for those games. And yeah, definitely a huge loss, not
only in the industry but just in general.

Speaker 3 (29:17):
So alls Mike Patrick did was go to I mean
a great prob a big time Yeah, you knew what
you were getting for him every single broadcast and he
was top shelf. And we lost a good one, a
good man and a good and a hell of a
legend in the broadcast business, but a better man. And
I think everybody that was affiliated with him or watched him,
or was able to work with him or be a
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(29:38):
the table for sure.

Speaker 7 (29:39):
For sure, so a tough loss. Absolutely again someone three
two and two five seven ninety. You know, one more
thing that you had brought up there about the astros
is you know the other guys, and that's something that
I thought about last night, is you know, you're still
it looks like Yaner is kind of starting to come
out of it and he's starting to better contact he is,
I mean, and he's gotten the results. So it's nice

(30:01):
to see at least base hits. And you got that
RBI double last night.

Speaker 3 (30:05):
That was nice.

Speaker 7 (30:06):
You still see you know, his his backside going into
the third base dugout swinging over a slider. I mean, look,
it's not gonna happen overnight. But the good news is
it's not like the entire lineup has the flu. Right
Like you know, remember and my cousin Vinny, the entire
store had the flu. Because that's what it seems like
this offense has been at times where it's like if

(30:26):
Jordon's not going, if al Twove is doing so much,
and I mean any of the other guys in the lineup,
and then it just seems like that translates to everybody else.
But as we mentioned, I mean, you know, you talked
about Jake Myers has been swinging a good bat, Brendan
Rodgers has started to put together some good at bats,
and you know, you've gotten Cam Smith who kind of
has taken that next step in his developments. I mean,

(30:48):
it's just it's nice to see that at least it's
not everyone that's going this direction. It's say, hey, maybe
these guys aren't getting it going right now, but at
least these guys are kind of we're fording the with
these guys, and we.

Speaker 3 (31:01):
Love familiarity, right and here we are. If you can
get Cam Smith new, what do we expect. We didn't
know what to expect, although we know we'd see superstar talented,
and he's starting to evolve into just he's your right fielder.
He doesn't you're playing him all the time, but you
start to see the production from paradies. You mentioned Rogers,
who's been a good hitter regardless of the ballpark he played,
and he's been a good hitter in his past. He
doesn't have put the ball in play. Christian Walker has to.

(31:23):
They're starting to come around. So the great thing about
that is when we mentioned the other guys, listen, if
we were sitting here saying, the other guys are starting
to roll, and we're not concerned about them. But our
concern was Paina and Alvarez. Wouldn't you be sitting back
saying okay, I'd rather be concerned about those two because
they'll find their way. They've seen it enough, as opposed

(31:46):
to those guys hitting fine and the other new guys like, gosh, dang,
what's wrong with wes Neski, what the hell's wrong with Paradis?
What the hell's wrong with Walker? Which we've said, and
you start to getting oh, cam Smith hitting one eighteen right,
If you start to go through that, you say, oh, man,
I trust that the guys I'm familiar with who've done
it every friggin year are going to do it again.

(32:09):
So it's a great sign and quite frankly, and they
won again getting that good pitching. These are times when
those guys have to do it. Hey, how's the ball
flying out of the park for Payna, how's the ball
flying out of the park for Alvarez? How about Christian
Walker even though he's a new guy, his three hits? Yes,
saying eh, Then you start saying, okay, if these other
guys are helping keep you afloat plus the pitching. Don't

(32:31):
you trust that it's going to be a good thing
when the big fellas start to win, when they start
to when Walker starts hitting the ball out of the
ballpark and Alvarez starts sitting the ball of the ballpark,
and even Payna see, I think, Payne, you should be
a twenty five home run guy every year, and he
doesn't need to pull the ball to do it. So
I trust that the guys I'm familiar with, meaning here
every year, we know the other guys, but we weren't
in their city watching him eighty one home games at

(32:53):
one hundred and sixty two. I'm okay with it, especially now.
I'm not going to be okay with it a midway point.
If Jordan's got twelve home runs, you know, I'm saying,
or eight home runs, right, But then I'd start to
look deep what the hell's going on here? But I
trust that veterans that have seen it before and been
through slumps and been through successes. I trust my eyes

(33:14):
see that those guys can come out of it, and
if they don't, it would be an aberration. Now I
don't I still don't know where who payin you is
gonna be at his career you so offensively. Yeah, that's
what I mean, because sometimes I thought, okay, man, I
look at him and he's you know, he's always in
great condition, and he's got great natural raw power, and
I think that's twenty two to twenty seven home runs

(33:36):
a year. But is it is that who he is?
Or should we say he's an eighteen guy that hits
two seventy or two sixty five and plays gold Glove
caliber defense. Okay, we'll live with that, but I still
think there's more there. And you saw him defensively. I'm
going to tell you something the play he made that
we will not talk about enough early in the game
in the hole. Yeah, backhands at yesterday. Yeah, yes, Now,

(33:59):
I don't care who it was, eighty percent of the
runners in baseball or seventy are getting thrown out there
because you can't jump. We've all tried it, and I've
coming from mind to jump past as a quarterback or
going to that backhand in the hole and jump. The
fact that a lot of guys will either bounce it
or throw it high because your balance, you don't have
your legs underneath you, and there's a little loop to it.

(34:21):
That ball was thrown as if his feet were set
and he put his right foot in the ground and
drove off it and there was no air on it.
It was a one ball, like we say in football.
It was a rip shot and like what and he'd
be kirk by five yards. Now a speed burner is
gonna you know, mookie bets run down there. You still
he may still have got him out. So those kind
of things you see, Oh that's whole hum for him.

(34:43):
That ain't a whole hum. Play, brother, that was a
Sean Dunstan rifle coming out of his hand, and that's
what his feed are set.

Speaker 2 (34:49):
Right.

Speaker 3 (34:49):
So I just think that I'm not sure who he
is offensively yet even in his career, I know what
the potential is. The question is can he sustain that?
So I'm anxious to see it. I'm just telling you
we're you're gonna be sitting here in a month and
I would say, Dan, can you believe he's got ten
home runs this month? Talking about the big fella it
be nice, yeah, and be nice. We've seen it. We've

(35:10):
seen it, and so that familiarity with that is there.
But it's like, okay, big fella, you can hit one
even the opposite way, hit it above the train tracks
going the other way. Whatever. Well, once he does and
the ball starts to look a little bigger to him,
I'm convinced that a guy that hits the ball, if
he was just a power hitter that struck out all
the time, different story. I'd say, Well, they're gonna come

(35:31):
in bunches. Then he's in a struggle.

Speaker 7 (35:33):
But this is a hitter who's got power, not the
other way around. Yeah, and that's a great combination to have.
And the astros are hoping the ladder definitely starts the
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Astros win the series over the Blue five to one
up final last night over at dyke In Park. Rockets
trying to even things up with the Warriors in their
Western Conference playoff series Game two tonight over at Toyota Center,
and the Texans set to pick twenty fifth overall tomorrow
in the first round of the NFL Draft. All right,

(43:17):
Sean Concord, California. Where is Concord, California? That would be
up in northern California. Okay, so northern California. Well, Skylink's
golf in Buchanan Hills, I believe is where it is,
Buchanan Fields.

Speaker 3 (43:31):
Excuse me. Well, they got a little bit of.

Speaker 7 (43:33):
An issue here apparently, and it's been something that they've
been dealing with where for some time. Apparently there is
a couple who are stepping out on their others and
meeting up right there at Skylink's golf there in Buchanan Fields.

Speaker 3 (43:49):
So Skylinks who had apparently been meeting, Well, both families
are members of the golf course, are they? Is it
a public or private course? I'm not sure what you
know whether it regardless, they're meeting the individuals are right,
the husband and wife from other relationships.

Speaker 7 (44:04):
Okay, yep, So apparently you know the the people there
at Skylinks have been trying to figure out what to
do about this. Well, then they decided yesterday or actually
it was a few days ago, with just the simple
caption on their Instagram post with a siren emoji public
service announcement, another siren emoji, and it reads to the

(44:25):
late thirties married wife in a black car who's having
a secret affair and with the guy and a smaller
silver car who decided to use the back right corner
of our Skylinks car park to meet weekly, same time
every day, that xt out time thirty am, next to
our workshop and recycling dumpster, where you think no one

(44:48):
is watching.

Speaker 3 (44:49):
Please stop.

Speaker 7 (44:50):
If it happens again, we're gonna drop the footage and
watch all hell break loose. Now here's my favorite part
at the end. We're a family golf course, not some
Jerry Springer only destruction zone. Doctor Phil would suggest for
you to go home and have an honest chat with
a person who really needs to hear it. That's always
my favorite part at the end is we're a family establishment.

(45:11):
We talked about the big Lebowski yesterday. Excuse me, sir,
can you you know, lower your voices as a family restaurant?
Excuse me, ma'am. I serve face down in the mud
with the great boys there in Vietnam. Walter subject shout
out there.

Speaker 3 (45:25):
Yeah, so I'm trying to figure out how do they
know this couple's.

Speaker 7 (45:31):
Married surveillance footage is my guess, or even maybe other
people being like, hey, that black car and that silver
car and the guy.

Speaker 3 (45:38):
In the lad I know the husband and wife. There's
probably that too.

Speaker 7 (45:41):
Dude, you've been around enough golf courses that people start
to talk.

Speaker 3 (45:44):
Oh no, no doubt. That's why I'm saying. If it's
a public course and people just kind of come and go,
but you don't know the members, if it's a private course,
then you're not. Then those two are really stupid. But
regardless off. That's where you choose to to the point. Now,
where don't I mean parking lots. With the way people
are now, you'd think that camera footage would cover a
lot of it because they're trying to protect golf carts

(46:06):
and cars from going up there and driving on their greens.
That's why the cameras are set up to protect the
golf not to prevent you from banging your side piece
in the parking lot of the golf course. Well, I'm
mixed on this because if you want to call them
in individually and say, listen, man, I don't know what

(46:28):
goes on in your relationship, here's how I'd done it.
I don't know what goes on in your relationship, but
our parking lots not a bang fast. Now, We're just
going to give you fair warning here because there's people
here who want to sell you out. I'm the geed.
Let's say i'm the gym you. I would suggest you
either find another spot or go home and take care

(46:48):
of business, because you can't do it here because it'll
get other. I'm just giving you a fair warning and
then allow them to make the decision, and then somebody
else talked to the significant other you talk to both
of them, right, and then if it continue, then then
then you have to say okay, then you guys don't
care and give them the old wake up call. But
I also have a problem they like going out there
and publicly saying it. If you're a golf course, it's

(47:11):
a family golf course. You keep it family right, You're
not a marriage counselor Now this may scare them straight
back to their families, and I get it. I understand
the basis of it, but just as cold as them
doing what they're doing and banging each other and thinking
they're getting away with it while their husband. And it's
the same time every week. First of all, if you're

(47:31):
if you're at home, I would probably think, hey, honey,
I think I'm gonna go with you on this day.
Right every week I think, let me, I want to
play with you, I want to go to the golf courses.
And no, honey, I don't think so I got the
felt no I don't want to go along with you. Know,
you start to think, well, is this the same thing
every routine every day? So so at home you either
don't want to know or you're just you're dumb as

(47:53):
a pile of rocks, but I don't think it's a
golf courses thing. Now you're on their property. If it's
probably you know, don't do it here. But I would
try to give them the fair warning that I'm not
going to ruin your life. You're doing that good enough
job on your own your family, but go home. Just
don't you know what, don't do it here. That may
sound a moral high ground. We're all stupid at times
in our lives, and we're teenage, but this ain't a

(48:15):
teenage makeout session here. This is a guy and you're
both married. Go work it out. We don't want it
on camera anymore. Giving you one warning, although I had
no problem, you could still play it. Just fix it well,
and if you don't, then then there's an issue. So
that's my thing, is that do you really want to
put that on social media? Can't you just call them
in and tell them. I'm guessing they've already done that though,

(48:36):
Well then if that's the case, then then they're both
Then then it's that voodoo stuff where you just can't
that you've allowed you just don't. You just can't give
it up. But you might want to choose a different site.
Or get your ass home and get to talking. But yeah,
I'm waiting for the husband I said. You know, I
think I'm gonna play golf with you this week.

Speaker 7 (48:52):
You have to also remember, in the age of technology,
these things track you wherever you go, and you also
can have a feature on you know, iPhones where somebody
can track you, you can track them kind of deal.
And more often than not, I know a lot of
people like hear that and you're like, oh man, where's
the level of trust in a relationship. It's more than anything.
For like me and Megan, for okay, like instead of

(49:15):
texting her and asking, hey, how far away from you?
You know, how far away are you? You know, do
I need to start moving or do anything like that?
Then I can just look and see and vice versa.
But I mean, the only thing I think the opposite.
I can't do it. I'd rather have just for me.

Speaker 3 (49:30):
I I personally, if I got to get to a
point where I got to check my kid's drawers for
for for for you know, a joint when they're or
they heiden a flat, i'd hope. I mean, you communicate
with them.

Speaker 7 (49:44):
But if I you listen to old Mayor Eric Adams
telling you, hey, check mind that picture frame.

Speaker 3 (49:48):
You might find a gun, right, Yeah, where I got
to like look under their underwear to see if they
have a if they have a flask and they're hopefully
they don't. You raise them to your commute, I talk
to them. But if I got to go into their
drawers without talk to them, then they've done a lot
to lead me there. But I give I'm always I'll
trust you until you break it. And it's the same
thing here. I can't fathom if I got to track

(50:10):
you and put one of those things on your phone
or stick one of those things like right out of
a movie in your car so I know where your
car is. I'm not saying you because you do it
for the health and make sure somebody's safe. But for me,
if I got to get to that point, it's time
to get out of the relationship. If I if I
got to say, where are you at one o'clock? Oh,

(50:30):
you're at man your car stopped at the same spot
in the parking lot. Every day you get a lot
of golf ball. Yeah, by the third time, I'm probably
over there at the golf course wondering what's going on here? Yeah,
because I got a brain, right, So, but I can't.
If I suspect somebody's doing it, I'm gonna talk to them.
And if I know they're doing then I'm just getting
out and I'm not going to bust them. I'm just

(50:51):
getting out. So I don't like hey, because then you're like, Hey,
what are you looking at? Well, no, I'm just tracking
the car. Oh, it made it right there. I mean
it's got to drive you nuts if you're if you're
wondering if somebody's cheating on you, right, I mean that's
the if I got to do that, I'm out. I'm
just done.

Speaker 7 (51:07):
I mean, paranoida you know, it's a real thing. And
when that Bill Clinton that said just because I'm paranoid
doesn't mean they're not out to get me.

Speaker 3 (51:13):
I mean, you know, it's it's a real thing. Sean Well,
I got a great idea. If you're paranoid, probably haven't.
Shouldn't have somebody on your on their knees and the
dog on Oval office. That'll make you paranoid. Yeah, I
think I understand why out to get you? Hey, come
on into the Oval office. I'll drop trial right here.
Oh they're out to get me? Yeah, well, I probably

(51:35):
shouldn't say that too loud because you may end up
dead if you say something Clinton. Yeah, great, people, but
go great, great, Yeah, I love you. But in truth
is if I get to a point where the trust
is waning that bad after a few conversations, dude, I
just I I can live a life without it. And
it's it's funny too. You need that anxiety forget it.

(51:55):
You talked about checking for your kids is uh. It
reminds me if that's why I started laughing as a
buddy of mine at his mom goes, Hey, just so
you know, I flipped the mattresses every six months. Oh
good gracious, Yeah.

Speaker 7 (52:10):
You know these are things that like kids nowadays are
not going to understand. And that and and the concept
to you is having a stash right now?

Speaker 3 (52:19):
Oh yeah? And if I if there's hints to why
you know your grades are falling off, Okay, let's talk
about it before I'm sifting through your drawer doing it.
But I understand some got to do it. I'm just
one of those guys. I'm trusting and tell you blow it,
and then when you blow it, I'll talk about it
and then if it's but then then if if it's
past the point over too, I'll just get out. I'm
not in it to hurt you. You may have hurt me.

(52:40):
I'm not in it to giddy even I'm not in it.
Oh I'm gonna get you. I'm just I'm just getting out.
My peace of mind is far more important than at
two o'clock every single day. I got a track, whether
you're significant other or somebody, is I gotta put if
I got to go that way, man, I just I'll
sit on a couch with dogs, and I would never
have to do it. I would I wouldn't get into
a relationship if if I had to dogs. Man, they

(53:00):
never let you down. They don't. I don't need to
track them. No, but I sure as hell ain't going
to a golf course parking lot the same time every week.
When they finally say you know what, and everybody knows
when they post it, if you're the wife or man,
my my my, I'm thirty my husband's thirty something. Now
they start reading, like, start to break it down. Yeah,
he's gone every week at that time, or she's gone

(53:21):
every week at the time. Now you start to play stupid,
and then you track them, and then you and the
husband show up at the same time, say, hey, how's
that golf game? Yeah, yeah, Hey, that's that's her car.
Hey that's Steve's car.

Speaker 2 (53:33):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (53:34):
And they're pushed up against each other and one the
windows are fogged. What are they doing?

Speaker 10 (53:39):
Man?

Speaker 3 (53:40):
And he said she said she was wearing a golf
skirt today because the shorts were a little too you know,
gott in the way of her swing and she's wearing
a go do I see the fact that she's she's
she's raw dogging it. No, you know, yeah, No, don't
do it. Just don't do it. And if people don't
know what I'm talking to, do it to go on
the golf course and take it to the behind the

(54:00):
bushes and the golf gut. No, I'm kidding. I'm just joking,
but you get my point. Yeah, for sure, if you
can't trust something that much, it's trying to move on.

Speaker 7 (54:07):
And you were talking about certainty of the kids room,
and I mentioned Eric Adams. Just look up Eric Adams
kids room. He had a ps eight years ago, I
think when it was when he was in like Congress
or Senate about you know, what to look for in
your kids room. Like he's like like this picture frame.
It might look just fine. Well you look behind it.
There's a glock. You know, there's a glock. This right there?

Speaker 3 (54:26):
Yeah, stuffed in a sock is a pound of weed.
Right yeah, there you go.

Speaker 7 (54:28):
Yeah, check the drawer. Oh you think those are pencil shavings.
No they're not exactly, that's what you know. Hey, look,
we all have our excuses, right, we all have. Our
teenager will give you every one of them. Oh yeah,
trust me, I had them all and none of them worked.
What a it's a funny story. What a horrible story?

Speaker 12 (54:44):
You know?

Speaker 3 (54:45):
Did you have to golf? Course? I say, hey, we
know you're banging, So could you guys get your stuff on,
you know, in order and go talk to your significant
other before we let them see what we see every day.

Speaker 7 (54:55):
It's the old you don't have to go home, but
you can't stay here. Yeah, that's pretty much what I think.
Skylink stuff there in conquest is you know, go handing
your business. I'm not your marriage counselor, but you're not
doing that on our property. There you go, there you go,
not in our house. You know that's again remember your
dad telling you that not in our house?

Speaker 8 (55:12):
All right?

Speaker 3 (55:13):
Do I ever, you didn't have to say it. Yeah,
I knew it was coming.

Speaker 7 (55:16):
Well, it's it's understood at a certain point, no doubt. Yeah, yeah,
we all live that, all right? Coming up, I'm gonna
let Shawn and Tripley decide. Am I a bad friend
for doing this? We'll leave it right there. We'll discuss here.

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Speaker 5 (57:00):
What happens And he's got a lot to say about it.
Sean Salisbury continues on seven nineteen.

Speaker 3 (57:11):
All right, Sean, what are you hearing out there now?
The Salisbury takeout?

Speaker 2 (57:16):
Salisbury's takeout on.

Speaker 3 (57:18):
The Sean Salisbury Show.

Speaker 7 (57:51):
It is Sean Salisbury Show, Sports Talk seven ninety. Astros
five to one winners last night over the Blue Jays.
Don't forget Wednesday's nine thirty. That means Astros GM. Dana
Brown joins the show. Rockets trying to even up their
series with the Warriors in the Western Conference playoffs. All right, Sean,
this is something that we did a few weeks ago,
if you'll remember, and I'll kind of set the table

(58:13):
for that is remembered. It was the Final four was
coming up, and I brought up that my mom and
dad were not going to go. And I asked my mom,
why why you know, you've waited, you know, years to
see you of h possibly win a national title. She goes, well,
if you look at our track record, we haven't been
very good when me and your dad have gone the games.
And you know, she pointed out the San Antonio Elite
Eate loss to Villanova, what was it? The Sweet sixteen

(58:36):
loss last year to Duke. They just felt like that
they were probably a jinx to the team. They were
a mush. As the Italian community would tell you, they
felt like that they were a mush. Well, it started
to dawn on me the other day because I've got
these friends who were married, Michael and Gloria, great friends,

(58:57):
and I started to look at their track record as
of late. They went up to Kansas City for the
Divisional round game Texans chiefs Sean.

Speaker 3 (59:06):
What happened in that game? Okay, you're talking about this year?

Speaker 10 (59:12):
Uh huh?

Speaker 3 (59:13):
Yeah, there you go.

Speaker 2 (59:14):
Uh.

Speaker 7 (59:14):
They were in San Antonio for you of h Florida
Championship Monday.

Speaker 3 (59:19):
What happened in that game? Florida? Okay?

Speaker 7 (59:22):
And then Sunday they're at Toyota Center Game one Western
Conference Playoffs against the Warriors.

Speaker 3 (59:28):
Yep, yep, there you go. You get my point here.
They've went to all three. So what have you said
to them? I'm right now? Have they heard you say
this today? I talked about it loosely with with with
one of them in a group chat. But and they're
your peeps, uh huh? So what do you are you

(59:50):
wondering how you're going to break it to them that
they can't go to any more events.

Speaker 10 (59:54):
And not go to it.

Speaker 3 (59:56):
It's just it's a am I a bad friend?

Speaker 7 (59:57):
If I don't say, hey, look, I'm seeing how people
look at superstition. Some people believe in it, some people don't.
But maybe, just like for the time being, put a
moratorium when going to some of these games.

Speaker 3 (01:00:09):
What if I said you were a bad friend if
you did tell him that, as opposed to you're a
better friend. If you don't. I mean, that's fine, it's
your opinion. That's why I left it up to you.
In tripley triple what are you saying if he tells
them not to go to games, does that make him
a good friend or a bad friend? And if he
doesn't tell them, which one would you choose? Got to
tell him the truth, man, Bingo. People need to hear

(01:00:30):
the truth. So are we all suggesting that the truth
is that they're the reason the teams are losing. I
wouldn't say that they are the sole reason, but I'm
just saying that. It's how do you say one of
you go the other stay home? How do you break it?
So it's mildly coincidental that you know they've both been
And here's what I know, okay, I'll put myself in

(01:00:51):
the friends category. Sure, you come to me and that happens,
and you say and you try to soft sell it,
like beat around the bush and tell it lightly, you
know lightly when you're telling me, I'd want you to
come and say, dude, you do know that the last
three times you've been to an event here in Houston,
they've all lost, and allow me to say, you know what, damn,
you're right, I ain't going. But you put it out

(01:01:13):
there with a with that without being because you really
want to get it out of here. How you your
presentation to me? Would we would decide, well, that's kind
of a weak ass comment by my buddy, or you
know what, you're right, and I may say you're right,
but say that doesn't matter. I'm gonna break it. My
idea of breaking. I'm gonna go the next time because
they're gonna win the next time, and I'm gonna prove

(01:01:34):
that that's wrong. But I don't want you to soft
sell to me. A real friend would say, Dude, I
got to tell you, that's three straight losses in three
different sports and three different events, and you and your
your lady are going. I love you guys, come over
to the house. We'll watch it next yeah, or what
have you? What do you think?

Speaker 11 (01:01:52):
You know what?

Speaker 3 (01:01:52):
I didn't even think twice? But you're right, I ain't
going the next time. Or even if I say no,
you're wrong, I'm going to be then then we're cool.
At least you love me, know, But to either soft
sell it, see a soft cell where you're trying to
beat around the bush. And I know what you're trying
to say would irritate me more than if you didn't
say it. Let me figure it out myself. But if

(01:02:12):
you're going to say it, like triple he said, if
you're going to say it, then you better have the
balls to just just roll up on me and just
say here's exactly you, dude. Do you know we've lost
three times in a row. Or to her and have
them say you know what, you're right, we ain't going
the next time. Let's have a party at the house,
all right? Cool? And if you want to be defiant,
you say, screw you, I'm still going. Why don't you
come with me this next time?

Speaker 2 (01:02:32):
Right?

Speaker 3 (01:02:32):
Some people spend right, that's exactly right. So I don't
think you're a bad friend. But if you're leaving it
out there. I'll tell you what a bad friend does.
Contacts them on group texts instead of get there, ask
you go face to face and go. So that's that's it.

Speaker 8 (01:02:47):
You're there.

Speaker 3 (01:02:48):
Go go let a rip man if you want to
do it, invite him over, Go have a cocktail with him,
you and your wife.

Speaker 7 (01:02:52):
Just like yeah, b Anyway, the real reason why I
brought you out here is I just want to tell
you maybe laylow on going to some Houston sporting events
for some I'm come, especially in major games, you know, and.

Speaker 3 (01:03:02):
Didn't let them either get in your kitchen and say no,
that's not the case, or you know what we got
to we do. Gotta lay low for a minute. We're
gonna let our teams win a few. Then we'll go
and see if that still holds right and go, yeah,
there you go. If you're going to tell them, make
sure you hit them between the eyes.

Speaker 7 (01:03:16):
And some people have tried to put that on me,
you know before of like when I first came back,
the Astros were struggling. They're like, you know, they started struggling,
so you got back. I go, yeah, you're right, you
know the place where I was, I mean the baseball
team won a World Series and the major college football
team won a couple of national titles.

Speaker 3 (01:03:32):
I mean, you're right on you know when you're right,
you're right, yeah, and you you're always right. Do you
know how many people in the stands going through that
or look at like twenty five thousand people at a game,
or like they lost? Is it because of me? This
is two losses in a row. Everybody goes to it.
Bottom line is if I know you're there and we lose,
if I don't get a hit, I don't think it's

(01:03:53):
because of your presence, but I do get the superstition
we all go through quick going to games.

Speaker 7 (01:03:57):
Our mutual buddy Scurf so report himself once he he
used to go to a lot of the Tuesday dollar
dog nights. Yes, and he had put out on social
media that hey, I don't have a very good track record.
Set this one out because I think it was like
it was magic number times the astros.

Speaker 3 (01:04:13):
So he was kind of like, we need, we need
some wins, and that Skirf he gets it, and I'll
tell you this. So I'm one of those Self awareness
is probably a big part of it. Oh, it's you
keep going and you keep leaving disappointed. Maybe you shouldn't
keep going.

Speaker 7 (01:04:26):
Yeah, yeah, right, it's the old You know, you watch
one of your favorite teams and you get so angry
watching them, and then you have your significant others say hey,
you know, maybe you should lay off for a while.

Speaker 3 (01:04:36):
Yeah. It's like you feel like you know you're with
your significant other or something and time and time again.
I mean, Dan, you may know how this goes. I
don't know. Time and time, time and time again.

Speaker 11 (01:04:45):
You're like.

Speaker 3 (01:04:47):
Somebody out there is where you do your Your significant
other looks. You're like, that's it, like three four, five,
six times? Probably just your game plan. Right, Well, it's
the definition of insanity. Yeah, you keep you keeping its
like the eyes roll, It's like, oh again, that's it.
Eventually self awareness says, I better break something else to
the table, right, same thing at the game brother.

Speaker 7 (01:05:09):
So remember I said there's a line in the movie
Outside Providence from Alec Baldwin is the Dad where he
says the deed is like Chinese dinner.

Speaker 3 (01:05:17):
It ain't over till you both go get your cookies.
Remember I told you that. There you go, so, but
you'll also be hungry in like three hours to see
what I did. There more foods there you go? So Dan,
I mean, I was just using us an example here.
You know, I wouldn't know. But you know, if if
they keep looking you like, that's it. You probably need
a gate change, a game plan.

Speaker 7 (01:05:38):
I'm willing to be the dancing bear at times if
it's for the better man of the show. Trust me,
I have no problem with it.

Speaker 3 (01:05:44):
Anyway, wind up, pep monkey, Right, that's it, that's it,
I'll do whatever. Yeah, I'm with your brother, you know,
but you're not a bad friend. But if they just
found out on here that you got to, you gotta
double down and make sure you tell them if they're
listening to say, well, why didn't Dan tell me when
a group text on my ass? Yeah?

Speaker 7 (01:06:01):
Now, I got about six text messages during the break.
I'll check and make sure both of them that's right.
That I'm not fully in the doghouse.

Speaker 3 (01:06:08):
Trust me. There's there's only one dog house that's enough
to be in, and that's all I need. I've been
in plenty of them. Mine's a great Dane doghouse to
any small one. I'm haven't we all.

Speaker 7 (01:06:18):
It's not air conditioned either, that's the problem. All right,
coming up Alan's south side. See you want to get
in on some astros, so we can weave that in.
But also to a college ad out there that is
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I think Michael Jackson was trying to save the kids,
not trying to put I take them away from the
Hollywood nut jobs.

Speaker 10 (01:08:18):
I do.

Speaker 3 (01:08:19):
I actually think that Mike and I know he had
beat to a different drum. But you hear the way people,
the people that've been around him talk, they were younger
than him. I'm gonna go with judging. I wouldn't have
said this ten years. We're like, oh, man, Michael's a
great entertainer, but that follows him, that baggage, it's kids.
I'm getting to the point I almost feel like his

(01:08:39):
place was a place where it went for people that
he was trying to keep out of those nut jobs
in Hollywood, the ones that are you know, that are
infatuated with twelve year olds and ten year olds. They're nuts.
There's a part of me that thinks that he was
the guy trying to rescue him as opposed to trying
to That's what I'm gonna go with. Regardless, I still

(01:09:04):
think of those guys. George Straight's huge here, but I'm
not sure how big George Straight is in Japan or Germany.

Speaker 7 (01:09:12):
I mean, country music is more mainstream than it was,
but still, I mean, yeah, he's not on the level. Yeah, glo,
that's exactly right, even less than country music, right to me,
it comes down and then there's Lebron James, Who's who's
I don't know if that's a self appointed nickname or not.
But I would say because of basketball is global, and

(01:09:33):
you know in how big they've been, what China and
stuff with the growth of their game, maybe globally and
because it's more recent, but overall, I don't know, dude,
you get bigger than Michael because even in Japan and
China and Michael Jackson was huge. Michael Jackson because he
started Michael Jackson when we got the little social media,

(01:09:55):
you know, and and Elvis was so pre all that
there's fifteen year old's out there across the world that
don't know who Elvis Presley is now named, Michael Jackson
still pulls way.

Speaker 3 (01:10:07):
I'm gonna say Jackson's the biggest king of them all.

Speaker 7 (01:10:09):
I mean, Elvis probably with the younger generation, with the
Austin Butler Rybe that might have helped. And then maybe
you hear, hey, there's this house in Memphis, Tennessee. There's
got a bunch of cars and planes and other United States.

Speaker 3 (01:10:19):
You can do. The argument's real for all of it. Globally,
the hoops player is pretty big globally, and because he's
in the time of social media. But Michael Jackson, I
think whether it's the seventies to now. Globally, he feels
like he'd be bigger than the biggest king, right, I
could have been the president. Yeah. I just think that
if he walks down the street in Japan, if he's alive,

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they're standing. I mean, people won't leave them alone. If
he's walking in Russia, people won't leave him alone. If
he's walking in Memphis, no, pun intended, won't leave him alone.
If he's walking in in South America on a beach,
everybody knows who he is walking to Memphis. That Bruce
Hornsby walking in No, that isn't that? No, Yeah, that's
not it's got Yes, it is Bruce horns Because I

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was thinking about what's the lonesome? I mean Lone Star, Nos,
lone Star that sings. Don't they sing another Memphis song?
Or I think they covered it? Okay? Maybe? Yeah, yes,
walk into Memphis, I believe isn't that Hornsby. I think
it's Hornsby in the range, Bruce Hornsby in the range. Right,
But to me, when I say it's not in the

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United States, if you walk into a bar in Japan,
all those kings, who are people recognizing? First? Michael followed
by probably Lebron probably Yeah, now in China, you know. Okay,
So if you walk into Germany, walk down the street
in Germany, walk into a clothing store in Germany, walk

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into a restaurant in Germany, and they're all sitting at
a table, in different tables, where do you think the
most attentions going, right? So Jackson just because some people
who don't like sports, everybody likes music, and he was
the king, so and I think it's interesting. I mean,
I don't know who else has those those are the

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ones that come to my mind. The five people have
the name king, right, But the United States wise to
be a hell of an argument because George Strait could
make that argument. Also, you also got Bud Heavy that's
the king of beer. There you go, there you go.

Speaker 7 (01:12:15):
That mains like everybody, Oh, the goat, the goat, the goat.
It's like, look, soon enough, somebody can't be the greatest
of all time. There's only one that could be the
greatest of.

Speaker 3 (01:12:25):
Until the next one comes alonger better triple you agree,
Michael Jackson, All those right? I think that I think
Michael Jackson, he tried, he tried. I think Michael Jackson
probably that's saying something. Because Elvis is big and Lebron's
big with it, that's saying something. But I would say
that I'll tell you the order probably goes Jackson. I

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still think because of the social media era that Lebron
would have fit second on just global recognition, not who
they loved, global recognition right now, and plus is physical.
When he walks into a place, they're gonna look different.
I think Elvis would be third. I think George Straight
would be fourth. We're talking about globally, not in the States,
and I think Richard Petty would be fifth.

Speaker 2 (01:13:11):
Globe.

Speaker 3 (01:13:12):
Yeah, that's the order. Yeah, I agree.

Speaker 7 (01:13:14):
I mean, even though NASCAR is more mainstream, kind of
like country music than it used to be, Richard.

Speaker 3 (01:13:18):
Petty can go walk in a bar and sitting at
a bar in Germany or Japan with you and me
and they wouldn't know the better of it, I think.

Speaker 7 (01:13:23):
I mean, I don't think he would have like globs
of people around him someplace. I recognize that guy, oh yeah, yeah,
because I mean the cowboy hat and we know the
sunglasses all the time, you reckon it.

Speaker 3 (01:13:33):
But Michael Jackson walks in and people are whispering the
entire to forming a line behind him ready to do
a music video. That's that's Michael. Yeah, dude, that don't stare.
What are you doing?

Speaker 10 (01:13:43):
Right?

Speaker 3 (01:13:43):
Have you ever noticed two that people with the nickname
king never go by both names. No, if you're like
King Richard, we don't say Richard, we say King Richard.
George Strait's King George, Lebron James, Oh, he's the king.
We don't call him it's Lebron.

Speaker 4 (01:14:00):
Oh.

Speaker 3 (01:14:00):
It's like if I tell you, if I say the intimidator,
am I talking about? Right? And it's the same one
name number three, that's exactly right. And so when you say, uh, yeah,
it is the intimidator. But you know what though, because
of his son, you call him senior, right, Dale Senior.
But when it comes like Michael Jackson, people don't call
him Michael Jackson. He's he was the original MJ. And

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so it's just I mean, Michael, Yeah, you're the king.

Speaker 8 (01:14:28):
You don't.

Speaker 3 (01:14:28):
You don't have to. We don't ever say your last name.
We don't need to. People know, we just need to
know what Jean, are you a music person or are
you the king of basket? Oh? Mike seeing the one
thing about Michael Jackson. You don't need to say King
Richard Petty, Oh what's he do? He's a NASCAR If
if you're in a foreign country with Michael Jackson, you
just say, oh, yeah, Michael Jackson, They're gonna say, oh,
I know exactly who he can put a concert on

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in South America. And every single person knows who he is.
You know who got the shortest send of the stick
in all of this is Dale Junior, Little Lee. Oh yeah, yeah.
And you don't know a guy who's really good, really
good racer. That's the question where living up the pops
how good he was? And I think and Junior knows that. Sure,

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that's legendary stuff, man. And I don't even want to
get into how that happened.

Speaker 10 (01:15:14):
Boy.

Speaker 3 (01:15:15):
But the King, Yeah, I would say Michael Jackson wins
the king battle over all those guys globally.

Speaker 7 (01:15:20):
If there's nothing else. The lesson of the day. Two
things to remember, Raise Hell, prais Dale, Raise Hale, and
you feel like a Dale senior fan.

Speaker 3 (01:15:30):
Huch love it. Yeah, can't blame you. That's a long
line to stand.

Speaker 7 (01:15:34):
You still go to Talladega. You still see those number
three flags flying in the wind. Il will get to
you on the other side also too. You want to
get into the college ad who sounds a lot like
my counterpart here on the show. We'll do that here
on the Sean Salisbury Show. Sports Talk seven ninety.

Speaker 2 (01:15:52):
The Jean Salisbury Show continues.

Speaker 7 (01:15:55):
And in honor of our last segment, it seems like
it is started to kind of spur some converse stations.
So it's simply at Sports Talk seven ninety, who's the King?
Just that simple who is the King? And people who've
been listening, you know, you know exactly what we're talking about.
But Tim, he goes by at Prof Tim ninety seven

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throws out Jerry the King Lawler. Yeah, another Memphis guy
has has a bar right there on on Beale Street.
King Tutt born in Arizona, moved to Macedonia. Yep, he's
another one, King Henry the Eighth, not astronaut Gail King.
So throwing some of those out there, so good stuff
from you, Tim, But anyway, who is the King? We

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we just went through it a little bit. You went
MJ I I agree with you too. I mean of
modern day kings of you know him, and you know
people would obviously know King James. But you know, of
course the King country music. He's he's on that list too.

Speaker 3 (01:16:52):
So tattooed my dad. All my buddies called him because
my dad was about it was six five, about two sixty,
you know, airborne ranger. The fellows, my teammates, you know,
love my pops, and they called him. One of my
offensive line called him King Richard because he was as
big as they were, so it would be like, oh,
King Richard, King Richard. Because so to this day, when

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my buddies call miss King Richard, how's him? And surely
doing well? I mean not now because they know that
both are passed away. But my buddy's always from college
and hey, how's King Richard doing? And so they weren't
referring to Richard. Pe pops, that's it. And I got
a you know, a crown tattoo with my dad's name
and dates when he was alive. So that's my king,
my pops. But I don't think my dad walks into

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a bar in Japan. Did anybody knows whom my pops?
King Richard? That's the king, that's the King Richard. That's
right my house. Because I didn't want to get out
of line because I was I didn't want to disappoint,
but I also my pops didn't have to say much.
And uh, I stayed in line because I was that
that respectful fear you have for a parent. So my

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dad's name is Gary. Obviously, you know what our last
name is.

Speaker 7 (01:18:01):
So my brother and his friends, you know, Kobe, Kobe Stevens,
one of my brother's good friends.

Speaker 3 (01:18:05):
You know what they called them? Well, if Gary Matthews,
the Gary Matthews that I know from baseball and go, uh,
was he called the kid sarge? Sarge? There you go.
That's right, Billy, the kid that's exactly right, and with
the hat like this had his hat back and Gary
and and bat waven when he played San Francisco Giants.
I think Gary might have played in Philly at one

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point as well, a handful of teams. But yeah, I
like it. That's exactly right, Sarge. So did he keep
that nickname?

Speaker 10 (01:18:32):
Yeah? He did.

Speaker 3 (01:18:33):
I mean it's so fit.

Speaker 7 (01:18:34):
You know, to this day, they ever hear them referencing
my dad, they're always, uh, Sarge, Sarge.

Speaker 3 (01:18:38):
There you go? Yeah, so love it. That's how you
know the.

Speaker 7 (01:18:41):
Names stick with you. Al on the South Side, Good morning,
what's going on, buddy?

Speaker 3 (01:18:45):
Hey, what's going on?

Speaker 8 (01:18:46):
Guys?

Speaker 11 (01:18:47):
Hey, Sean, I'm gonna hit you with this one. You
can't lose with himj and Amy the close Michael Jackson.
He's a phetinum among pheenums, because when you start talking
about other countries of the places, it ain't even close.
But I'm gonna tell you who's second, Sean. He's in
the room with Michael. And that's another mj Michael Jordan.

Speaker 3 (01:19:11):
Are you kidding me?

Speaker 11 (01:19:13):
Even though Lebron is the new era or whatever, but
Michael Jordan moves the needle, even passed Lebron steal today.

Speaker 3 (01:19:20):
Hey, hell, this is I don't think there's any doubt
about that. But I don't think any does anybody ever?
We were just talking about the king nicknames. Oh there's
no doubt globally that Jordan's in the category that Tiger
Woods would be in the category. We were just kind
of guys with the nickname, you know, King. I don't
think I don't think Jordan. It was just simply mj
right or you know, whatever whatever you call it. Eroness

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So that that's that, Oh, there's no doubt globally Woods
Michael Jackson, Michael Jordans. Oh, there is no doubt that
if we're talking that impact. The truth is with all
of them, find a soccer player or Muhammad Ali's the
biggest would have been globally as big as yet that
includes Michael Jackson when Ali was in his prime, no doubt.

Speaker 11 (01:20:05):
Hey, Sean, check this out. We got the draft coming up,
and you know it's gonna be go time. Uh, Sean,
what do you think about this and our hang up
and get your take. The Texas is known to be
the most aggressive people in the draft. Somebody had that
rated last year or two when we hit the draft

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and got C. J.

Speaker 3 (01:20:26):
Strout.

Speaker 11 (01:20:28):
I'm so sick of these my grafts because they don't
know they be wrong every time. And we moved up
and got Woodlanders at number three. Didn't nobody in the
world see that coming at twenty five? Sean, I'm just guessing.
I think we're gonna move down because Nick su Serrio

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is aggressive, dude, and I'm gonna tell you some word
is out. We won't book them.

Speaker 2 (01:20:53):
You can trust and believe me.

Speaker 11 (01:20:55):
Teams that hear that, even in the division, you know
how they do they try to steal this that and
the third. But what do you think about them move Shun.
I'm really believing that we're gonna move down and try
to get that guy, another next guy mixed up to
you know, that caliber player because we got their last
sets to move down with with a couple of second,

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third picks or whatever.

Speaker 3 (01:21:19):
What do you think about.

Speaker 2 (01:21:21):
Now?

Speaker 3 (01:21:21):
You think they're moving down, meaning you're talking about down
towards the top of the draft or down towards the bottom,
because I say, I know what I talked about. I'm
talking about me moving up. Yeah, you're talking about move
back or you mean move closer to the first pick,
now go further back?

Speaker 4 (01:21:36):
I mean I mean moving up Shun.

Speaker 3 (01:21:39):
Yeah, no, see, yeah, you're talking about using those because
with those assets, I'm with you. I actually think they're
going to try to move clud somewhere in the teens
if they possibly can, to get the guy they want.
But I'm not and al thank you for the message. Yeah,
because when you say moving down with us is I
usually think that's moving towards the bottom of the first

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hunt or trade in you get more assets and go
into the second round trading up. Yeah, I figured that's
what you were talking about. Al If you said, Sean,
you have to bet this of are they going to
move down, move up, or stay where they are. I
would put money on the fact that they're going to
try to position themselves closer to get a dominant lineman
that they that they know they don't want to miss
out on at twenty five or again, if that guy's

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not there, I think they'd be trading up higher to
get the lineman. I could understand if they traded up
two or three spots to get a receiver. Like a book,
it's somebody that they Okay, we missed out on the lineman.
Who's that it's to me again it's offensive side of
the ball. But yeah, I actually think they're going to
use those assets that they have gathered to try and
position themselves a little higher. And if you can move

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seven eight spots into the teams, I think I think
that that I don't want to say it assures you.
But as the draft goes on and they start to
see and make that during the draft trade to move up,
I would think that that's a fair one and that's
where I'd put my money. It would be stay where
you are and the last one to be to trade down.
They have these assets. I think they're going to use

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them to their advantage because I think they recognize how
important this third year, like a Saturday at Augusta, it's
a moving year for them, and the and the division
is not enough.

Speaker 7 (01:23:16):
That's been clearly not I mean, you know, they're ten
and seven the last couple of years and both out
in the second round of the playoffs, so trying to
get off that plateau. There is I think there is
going to be some movement Sean, and I just don't
know if it's going to be when they just won't
be there. They just won't be there, And that's that's
what we'll get into. Here is the eight o'clock hours
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Speaker 7 (01:24:17):
Tonight and also the Texans set to pick twenty fifth
overall tomorrow in around one of the NFL Draft. That's
where we take the conversation here is with the Texans,
and if you want to weigh in someone three two
one two five seven ninety again someone three two one
two five seven ninety something that you know al was

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bringing up Sean about you know where we know that
Nickosario is a guy that will be aggressive when it
comes to draft day. He's working the phones, he's doing
all those things. We've seen him be uber aggressive. Where
they kind of went the route of a guy he
used to work with, Thomas de Mitchell a few years
ago when the Falcons were kind of in a similar
situation and they said, hey, Roddy White, Tony Gonzalez, Yeah,

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that's pretty good, But but what if we really shocked
the world right here and made a hell of a trade.
We went out and got that receiver from Alabama named
Julio Jones. It seemed to work out pretty well and
they had success offensively for the better part of his career.
But you know, it's a good point where the Texans now,
you're kind of at a point where it's, hey, be
aggressive here and try to find a way to really

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make a splash and take this team to the next
level and at twenty five, I think you're kind of
locked into where you are there, even though I mean,
you got teams like the Giants, and I think of
the Browns I saw are looking to possibly move out
of their picks because they're just not set on who
they could possibly get at two and three.

Speaker 3 (01:25:38):
That's fine, all right, They're not moving that far down though.

Speaker 7 (01:25:42):
No, no, no, And that's not where I'm going with this,
But I mean, I'm just saying that. It just kind
of feels like that people are looking at I think
they said either pick number four or five is where
they feel like the draft is going to start. But
think about where Nick Cassio's really made his bones as
a GM. He's made his bones on Day two he's
made his He's made his mark as the Texans GM

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of hitting in like last year the first pick they had,
second round and you go out and get Kamari Laster
who goes out and performs the way he did last year,
Kaylen Bullock in the third round another one. That's where
I think the movement is going to happen for the
Texans because they have seven picks overall this year, They've
got twenty five on Day one, you've got pick number

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twenty six. In round two, you've got two third rounders.
I think you're going to see the team move back
into the second round with that fifteenth pick that they
have in the third. Then maybe even two you just
say scrap the third round altogether and then we'll just
pick it back up day three and round five.

Speaker 3 (01:26:41):
But I think that that is where you.

Speaker 7 (01:26:42):
See this team because again it's you know, they're going
to tell you they're not drafting for need, but in
the kind of nice whenever best player available and need
both coincide and you see him right there in round two.

Speaker 3 (01:26:54):
Yeah, and if I see I'm not saying I disagree
on the fact that at twenty five they're locked in
to stay there. I don't believe that, and now they may,
but oct in is a strong word. I just don't
think that there is a lot of upward movement they
could make well, judging how the draft goes, depending on
let's just say linemen and receivers. Early on, you may

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see if something falls and say oh we're gonna get one,
and all of a sudden, fifteen and sixteen and seventeen,
you say we're pretty good there. The closer it gets
to them, and the less linemen and receivers that are
on the board, they may That's the only time I
see them going the other way. Now, you're not even

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talking about the first round pick. You're talking about second round,
third round. Is trying to take those two third round
picks and move themselves up to get another second round pick.
What about jumping that and throwing two third rounders up
there with the first pick and going from twenty five
to seventeen. You know, if somebody sits there and say, listen,
we're at seventeen or eighteen, the guy we want is
going to be available at twenty eight, let alone twenty five.

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We'll take those extracts and then they'll position themselves possibly
to get another pick in the second round. It depends
on We're just this is all speculation because, as all mentioned,
people are wrong all the time in the draft. That's
why I'm more of a post draft guy. I mean,
I study it and watch them and try to figure
it out like we all do. I'm more of a
post draft guy to decide how they're going to impact

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their team. Other than guys who's like much respect to
mel and Todd mcshah spent ten months getting the next
class and studying and studying where they belong. I think
we can all see the needs for each team, and
then it's a crapshoot. Is your guy there who's number
one on your board? Maybe different from who I think,
but to me, if you're the Texans and there's a
game changer in the teens, you have to do everything

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you can and move up. You just do if you
think you can get the guy you like it or
love it twenty five, then you don't move and like
you said, package those in the second round to move
up less picks, but move up where you get two
second round picks as opposed to two third I get it.
But if there's a guy that you covet and you
love and you know that somebody wants to move, maybe
somebody with a second first round pick that's willing to

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go back a little bit. Because what happens if a
guy like Shador Sanders falls and the Giants are picking
at their second or the Browns later in the first round,
and you sit there and say the Texans ain't taking him,
the team in front of him ain't taken him, and
all of a sudden, you say, we can get him
at twenty five because we didn't want him with the
pick that high at the first pick in the top
three picks, and you go get him that late, and

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you're willing to do that and then get another one
because they need bodies teams like that or the Cleveland
Browns who you've dealt with before. So I would think
that if you love a guy in the mid teens,
that you're willing to give up a third rounder or
two to move up to get him, but you better
love him. I ain't moving up in the draft for
somebody I like. I just won't do it. I'll stay

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where I am for a like. I'll move for a
love now when I'm married to the other. It's just
it's a you know, it's in passing. Oh hey man,
when I'm in town, let's go on a date. Or
we've known each other forever, I'm gonna I like you,
but I don't love you. We're good friends. Now I'm
moving on. If you love them, you got to do
everything you can to give them the right ring on
their finger. And that may be moving up for the Texans.

Speaker 7 (01:30:08):
And that's the thing, you know, it's just kind of
like looking at situations. Salary cap comes into all of this,
and you start looking at teams that are in salary
cap hell the New Orleans Saints.

Speaker 3 (01:30:17):
Well, one guy puts them in major salary cap hell,
well one guy does. That's a veteran. That's you know,
you're team million dollars hit. There you go, So, I mean,
you know you're dealing with that. But it's also I
mean these teams who continuously we're talking about Car obviously, right.

Speaker 7 (01:30:30):
I mean these teams and I mean them, I mean
who continuously kick the can down the road. That's a
prime target that you can look to and say, hey,
we can give you a lot of these that you
don't have to pay as much for where you really
kind of need that as opposed to you could just
stay where you are and stay in the same situation
you're in.

Speaker 3 (01:30:48):
The question is how do you feel about Car down
the road? And he may not even play this year.
Now down the road's been reached and they know who
he is, and and the you talk about Car, yes,
I do too. To get you to a certain point,
and that's you're not winning a super Bowl with him,
And as much I like you, just not now the
question is do you believe you're winning one with Spencer
Rattler And that question probably right now is a no.

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But with some potential to be in the league for
a while, I think it's going to be awfully tempting.
When's the last time they drafted a first round quarterback?
Oh god? I mean the fact that we can't remember, yeah,
is a long time because they do not be shocked
if they fall in love with the guy there. Supposedly

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Jackson Dart is a guy that they really come get
coached properly, like like like uh, you know with uh
in Denver with my guy John Peyton. No, well Peyton
and his quarterback that he drafted from Oregon Bonicks. Yeah,
the fact that they get Bone Nicks and the right
coaching has turned bon Nicks into a hell of a

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rookie quarterback. If you can get the proper coaching and
teaching with that quarterback. I think Jackson Dart is an
explosive talent and great under pressure in the pocket. He
always has been. I don't know if they're going to
but it's been a long time since they feel And
then you got to ask, well A nine is hee
a franchise changer top ten pick. Is he a franchise

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at that position? So but and then they may say, well,
Jackson Dart will be available at fifteen, Let's trade down,
get more bodies, get a rookie contract, you know those things.
But they've got questions because I don't know if they
believe they have their future on the roster. Judging by
last year they kept playing a bunch of different quarterbacks,
and with car they know that there's a limitation on

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where they can go new coach or not. I would
keep an eye on that night slot that either is
a movement slot or they're going to fall in love
with the quarterback.

Speaker 7 (01:32:43):
And that always fun whenever you have the quarterback you know,
still in your building, and it's a question asked to
you kind of like what we saw, yes, say, with
Mike Borganzi and the Titans Will Lovis, Yeah he's here.
It's like, that's not really the question. It's the question,
is you know, what are you looking for out of
the future. It's okay, we will go ahead and tell
you what we think.

Speaker 3 (01:33:02):
They're drafting a quarterback which is already telling you two
years into his career that Will Levis is no longer
that guy in Tennessee. They'll be looking for a reason
to move him at some point in time, big arm
guy when they went and went after two years. They're
telling you, we're drafted a quarterback first. You're not even

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gonna get a chance to win the job.

Speaker 10 (01:33:24):
Now.

Speaker 3 (01:33:25):
Will Levis is not long for Tennessee. If they draft
the quarterback, which they're going to, and more than likely
it's going to be I mean, how can they not
for optics, with their fans, with their fan base, how
can they not? And I don't see two quarterbacks going
in the first three picks. There's no way Jackson, Dartis,
Shudur Sanders are worthy of a top five pick right now.

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They may end up being great pros, but right now,
I'm not turning my future over to either one of
those guys in the first five picks. I get the
cam Ward thing. I think he's a really good player,
but I think he'd be fourth or fifth quarterback picked
if he was in last year's draft, Caleb Williams going
before him. Drake may would have gone before here. We
know Jade and Daniels would have gone before him. So
you're looking in the bow Nicks, Michael Pennox range with

(01:34:10):
cam Ward in this draft. He's going to be the
first one at a just sheer need and who's taking him?
But to me, I don't see how you can take
another quarterback in those first five picks. I wouldn't, especially
that Cleveland and the Giants both have second first round picks,
two of them. It's weird to.

Speaker 7 (01:34:27):
Think that, especially in this age of football, with how
much teams throw the football, that you wouldn't have a
better quarterback class. But here we are, all right, we
can continue this conversation. And also two with the Texans.
Something that I heard yesterday that leads me to believe
that's why this guy is here. We'll discuss that. Andy
c right there will talk to you as we continue

(01:34:47):
here The Sean Salisbury Show.

Speaker 5 (01:34:51):
The Seawan Salisbury Show continues now, you.

Speaker 3 (01:34:55):
Know, Andy, good morning here on the Sean Saul Shell morning.

Speaker 9 (01:35:02):
Hey shine, look here, let's let's talk to this draft.
Let's break this down. If if you're sitting at twenty
five and it looks like.

Speaker 10 (01:35:14):
You can get.

Speaker 9 (01:35:17):
Zabel or the kid out Alabama, what damn?

Speaker 3 (01:35:22):
I just lost his name to guard. Yeahler Booker, It's Booker,
the the interior players for Alabama.

Speaker 9 (01:35:29):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, Booker. So both of those are available.
Do you think you can get them at twenty five?
And you can move up and get Banks. Let's just
say you can, because you can. Like you said, if
you love somebody, you can make a good enough deal
for somebody that you can move up and get your guy. Well,
he's already proved. He's done that before and and that's

(01:35:50):
part of his calling card. Nick, So we're looking at Robinson.
I believe Robinson is gonna be your left tackle.

Speaker 4 (01:35:58):
Then.

Speaker 9 (01:35:58):
I don't think they paid him to and a half
million a year to come in for this year not
to be the left He will be.

Speaker 3 (01:36:03):
The starting left tackle.

Speaker 9 (01:36:04):
You know.

Speaker 3 (01:36:05):
How long it lasts will be another thing. We'll see.
But there is no doubt you're not paying him he did.
Didn't bring him in here just to be a guy.
He's gonna play.

Speaker 9 (01:36:14):
I love what you said just there. He's gonna start
for for sure, but but not let's see how long
it lasts. I think this is going to be your
right tackle.

Speaker 3 (01:36:24):
Would agree. And then and Howard is your left guard?

Speaker 10 (01:36:28):
Left guard?

Speaker 9 (01:36:29):
Now, I think there's you look at the draft, there's
not many centers. I mean I can't find a center
that anybody think's going to go in the first or
second round. I looked at all kind of pundits.

Speaker 10 (01:36:43):
And these draft gurus.

Speaker 9 (01:36:46):
Everybody's I mean, no, I don't think nobody has a
center for a second round, so that that's not gonna happen.
And I think if they, if they could, they would
upgrade at center, right.

Speaker 10 (01:36:58):
Oh.

Speaker 3 (01:36:58):
I think if they if they could and get a
young body at center that they thought they could pencil
in for the next decade, they would. But I don't
know if that Now. The crazy thing about centers, you
can find guys like that in the second and third round.
They end up being great players. But if you're asking
for that in the first round, they're not going to
trade up for a center in this draft. Let's just
put it that one.

Speaker 9 (01:37:15):
Yeah, yeah, so you got you got a right guard hole.
You went and got Graham and Thomason and they both
had a lot of you know, gramsmen started as rookie
and second year and they kicked him out from the
starting lineup last year. Thomlinson started a bunch of games,
and you got Scruggs. I don't think Scruggs is the answer. Hell,

(01:37:37):
he can't even stay healthy. I don't think we're ever
gonna find out. What if I told you you could
get you could get Booker. Let's say Booker's a guard,
but I can get you Zabel, who played tackle and
guard and he's a B plus And at the Senior
Bowl they put him at center, and I read two

(01:38:00):
two different guys that said that they think after watching
him play center and the practices and doing the Senior Bowl,
that that might be his best position. To me, that's
a no brainer to get a guy that we already
know he can played garden tackle. And everybody says, well,
north Dakota State.

Speaker 10 (01:38:20):
Guess what.

Speaker 9 (01:38:20):
Cody Mott came from North Dakota State and he started
his first thirty four games and with Tampa Bay and
he's done a hell of a job. So I think
Greg Zabel's got to be the pick.

Speaker 10 (01:38:32):
The pick.

Speaker 9 (01:38:33):
I don't think you have to move anywhere. I think
he'll be available. And you know what, Son, everybody keeps
thinking we might get a receiver of the first round.
You know, it's funny you go back to Stroud's first year,
looks at his wide receiving corps in what he did
it was. It was Nico Woods, Brown, Dell, and Schultz.

(01:38:58):
And if he would have played the two game that
he missed being injured and average what he did the
other games, he would have been the they would have
had the most yards in the NFL. He would have
beat two out. So I don't think you have to
have a top receiver. If has time has proven he

(01:39:18):
can win with lesser talent.

Speaker 3 (01:39:22):
If Gray's Abel's there at twenty five and they haven't traded,
I don't see how they're not going to pick him.
How's that? Does that make sense? Andy? Great stuff? I
think that their priority would be anybody a good player,
whether it's interior or tackle versus you can't It's like pitching.
You can't have enough of them, even if you don't

(01:39:44):
start the guy from the get go because you feel
Cam Robinson or Fisher on the other side can play.
But I think in order to secure what you want,
you may have to move up. But yeah, I don't.
I don't argue with Andy one, but I still if
I'm picking and I like a linemen but I love
a receiver, I'm I'm taking the receiver. I just am
if at twenty five, I love one and like the other.

(01:40:06):
But if you love them equally, then it comes back
to well, of course we're going to get a little
more need. And the need more than that is is
an interior alignment. It's a massive need. There's no questions.
I mean, that's that's what broke your That's what broke
that group to fifty sacks, and they were second in
the league fifty sacks. And that's not to do with
all the pressures that were part of as well, and

(01:40:27):
a lot of that came on simple stunts and simple protections.
That's just self inflictedtors. You can't, you just can't.

Speaker 10 (01:40:34):
You can't.

Speaker 3 (01:40:35):
You're gonna get beat physically once in a while, but
you just can't line up and let a team that's
not trying to confuse you beat your butt into the ground.
Of course it's a priority, but like most quarterbacks and coordinators,
I'm greedy if there's a great receiver there at twenty five,
because all of a sudden a bunch of them going,
they're still a great one and you love him. And

(01:40:56):
I know it seems so simplistic. I'm never taking a
like over a love, regardless of the position. Give me
the love, and if you love one of them. Take them.
If Zabel's there because he went to a small school,
make I wouldn't let that. You know, I'm not getting
talked out of him. He's a really good player. You
think there were.

Speaker 7 (01:41:13):
Coaching staffs last year sitting around the table kind of
like this right here, who'd be watching film together and
see the things that the Texans offensive line were not
adjusting to when it came to twists and stunts and
being like, I cannot believe it's week eight and they're
still not doing.

Speaker 3 (01:41:26):
This, Or I can't believe it's week eight and I
can't believe that we're a Sunday We're not playing on
Friday nights. We're playing on Sundays and they don't know
who to block. Yeah, oh, I guarantee it. Or you're
setting there smirk and say, alls you got to do
is move around a little bit. They'll they'll jump off sides.
It was one of the biggest weaknesses in the league.

Speaker 7 (01:41:43):
And then we got two and a half minutes more
salad answers from Bobby Slowok about why it hadn't been fixed.

Speaker 3 (01:41:47):
A detriment to their football team. The biggest detriment was
the offensive line It was the most angering thing, there's
no doubt, and a lot of it was self inflicted.
So you got to be able to understand confusion which
people try to create. It was too easy to get
to the quarterback for the opponent last year. That's got
to be fixed. I was seen and it didn't have
to just be on Sundays. It was other days too
that the Texans played. So yeah, true to your word,

(01:42:09):
is Sean, Hopefully that's fixed.

Speaker 7 (01:42:11):
Hey, somebody here, you know you hear culture mentioned in
the building over at NRG quite a bit. Is somebody
here to enforce it even further? We'll talk about it
right here. It is the Sean Salisbury Show.

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The Sean Salisbury Show continued.

Speaker 7 (01:43:12):
Picking inside the top ten are open to trading down.
The challenge for them has been finding teams that are
willing to move up. This According to the sources from
what he's hearing, there isn't a strong push to trade
up this year at the top, especially if it means
giving up significant value that aligns with traditional trade charts
that are out there. One source put it this way

(01:43:33):
that current offers our seventy cents on the dollar at
the moment to trade up. So, I mean, it just
seems like, at least at the top of this draft,
that there is a handful of very coveted guys. But
I think because it is such a quarterback poor draft
that you're not seeing a lot of interest in moving
up because the demand what.

Speaker 3 (01:43:52):
You move up for yeah, that guy or an edge
rusher that's just off the charts. I mean, you could
make the argument that you know you're dealing with, you know,
Penn State with a he's a great player, you're dealing with.
You know, is there that corner in this draft? Maybe not?
Is there that lineman that's the next Jonathan Ogden or
somebody like that?

Speaker 10 (01:44:12):
Is there?

Speaker 12 (01:44:13):
You know?

Speaker 3 (01:44:13):
The to me, the say the guy I don't see
how he misses is see? I think Genty's a guy
that it is a game changer, and I don't normally
say that about running backs in the first time. I
do I think that. I think I wouldn't be shocked
if the Giants take him where they are almost as
a makeup call for sau Oh yeah, and Genty by all,

(01:44:34):
by all accounts. You know, he's thick, lower half, wiggle, powerful,
catch the ball out of the backfield. Now he's blocking
is not a specialty. But right now you're not bringing
him into block. You're bringing him to care and think
for their quarterbacks are Russ Wilson. Let's just think Giants
for a second. Russ Wilson, Who's best football is behind him?
He needs a running game ask Marshawn Lynch about that.

(01:44:55):
Then you look at Jameis Winston. Who's gonna put you
in a bind. He's gonna throw thirty touchdowns if he's
but he's gonna throw thirty picks. He's gonna pay So
a run game to lean on would help. And then
to me, who's gonna impact you more? The quarterback that
you're not sure of or the running back that most
guys in the league, general manager included, are sure of. So,

(01:45:17):
and then there's Travis Hunter. I don't see how he's
not a success at the next level. I just don't
nowt Now, there's some crap should be right. We almost
judge drafts by the strength of the quarterback position, and
if nobody's moving up, it tells you that they think
they can get a good player at eight a good
player at seven. But this is one of those drafts.

(01:45:38):
Is it worth trading up to get Carter? Right? Is
it worth trading up to get Hunter? Maybe? But is
it worth trading up to get him when it's going
to cost you another first round pick? El way, that
guy in this draft, is he is eight men in it?
Or whoever you think is that guy? Quarterback? Wise? No,
although cam Ward's good, but I don't think a lot

(01:45:58):
of teams that were at fifteen that needed a quarterback
who're just lucky that they won a few games with
different quarterbacks. I don't think anybody's trading up twelve spots
to get him either. I actually think they're seven or
eight or nine players that you'd covet. But the question is, Okay,
I didn't get that guy, but at five, I can
get the next guy. But whenever it's not a quarterback
heavy deep Oh my gosh, draft, we almost mark it

(01:46:21):
down as uh, we'll stay where we are. I would
expect some movement from the twenties to the teams. I'm
not sure I expected a movement from seven to two.
Why would you Well, I mean again, I mean, you're
bidding against yourself. Well, it's not only you're bidding against yourself.
Bad quarterbacks get you fired. And I mean and you
you sell the farm to try to go get a

(01:46:42):
quarterback and try to make it work and it doesn't.
You get Will Levis, you get Zach Wilson, you get
Sam Darnold, Do you get I mean, you know Les
wasn't even a first round pick. I get your drift completely.
What was Levis taking early in the second round? Early second? Yeah, yeah,
but that some people think that's a first round pick anyway,
But you are one hundred percent correct. Here's what I
know in the years doing it. You can overcome missing

(01:47:04):
on a strong safety. Now, nobody's picking a strong safety
at five, right, It's it's usually a corner, usually an
edge rusher. I mean there's certain people. You don't normally
take a guard at five either, you say, well, get
him at twelve, trade down and still get him. I
don't know why. If the great football player is a
great football player, right, it just doesn't happen usually now
the tackle, sure, edge rusher, sure quarterback, wide receiver, corner.

(01:47:26):
You're usually not taking a free safety with a fourth
pick of the draft. You just usually don't guys closer
to the line of scrimmage get more love. If that
makes sense. Yeah, all right, not now tight ends have
become in vogue. But in truth that you with with
certain positions in this draft and where you're going with it,

(01:47:47):
to trade up and get a guy you want, I
would think that there's probably seven or eight guys bunched
up that are in the same motor pool that makes sense,
the same pool of Okay, I like it. I can
live with any four of these players, and then you say,
well does it need or best available? So to me
that guy, there's a couple of those guys in this draft,

(01:48:09):
but you may not need to move up to get
a top ten pick if you're at nine and mortgage
it and I can overcome. Let's say I draft a corner.
It's not setting my franchise back? Is my point eight years.
You miss on a quarterback early if you think he's
changing your friend. The team that drafts can ward if
all of a sudden three years down right, you have

(01:48:29):
two years into it, you're thinking like you do about
then you realize, right then, it's not ten years, it's
two years. You're like, oh my gosh, it will set
your franchise back. I can overcome Kenyon Green not being
a player and still find a way to make it work.
You miss on the quarterback, and that's why there's more
risk than reward in this quarterback draft, which all of

(01:48:50):
a sudden everybody thinks the quarterback draft is not very good.
I mean the draft isn't very good because quarterbacks don't
judge the draft by quarterback heavy. There's some good positions,
some good times. They've got some. I'm telling your running
backs heavy in this draft. There's gonna be I'm gonna
be a little surprised if there's not more than one
taken in the first round. And some years will go
in there will there's not. The state's got two running backs.

(01:49:13):
We obviously know the kid from Boise State to player
gent there's some players now and what happened in the
NFL last year makes you think we're revaluing them the
way that we should. But you'll get linemen up there,
but you can't. It's hard to overcome missing on a
quarterback early. It is not hard. I can overcome missing
on a safety or a corner early you'd like them
to hit. But my franchise isn't getting set back by

(01:49:34):
ten years.

Speaker 7 (01:49:35):
Well, I mean, and somewhere along the way, all thirty
two teams in the NFL finally, just in almost Unison
decided life's too short to pay mid quarterbacks. I mean,
because that just doesn't happen anymore. You finally get to
a point and you're just like this guy, ain't it.
Let somebody else pay him. I'm gonna go draft the next.

Speaker 3 (01:49:52):
Guy, and then if all of a sudden it doesn't
work out, then I can use the way that he's
gone his first two or three years and I'll jump
on him. I would agree. I'm not so sure that
difference between the third round quarterback and the first round
quarterback late. I'm not sure the difference in a long
term if shedor Sanders is going to be ten times
more dominant than Jaln Milroe. I know on paper right

(01:50:14):
now who the best is cam Ward's best quarterback in
this draft? Are we sure? Are we sure that Kyle
McCord in the third round or fourth round doesn't end
up better? That's what I'm saying. I think there's a
lot of you know, Tyler Sugar or mill Row or
getting to the right and how you're coached with those guys.
Those guys, I mean, you may find a fourth one

(01:50:35):
drafted in the first round, But are we sure Dylan
Gabriel or Will Howard don't go and stick in yours?

Speaker 9 (01:50:40):
Sure?

Speaker 3 (01:50:41):
Yours like the seventh or eighth quarterback on the board.
Let's say you get him in the third, fourth, It's
almost like you forget he's in this draft. That's exactly right,
he probably could have used another year. Plus he reclassified
in high school, so it's not like he's old. He reclassified.
Remember he came out to go to Ohio State as
a which would have been his senior year. He was
a freshman on campus, right, So yeah, that's Is there
that big a difference between Quinn, YOUWRS and Shador Sanders.

(01:51:06):
I'm talking about big enough difference. So you say, man,
so you're telling me if you draft Shador Sanders in
the top ten that all of a sudden, he is
three rounds or two rounds or sixty picks.

Speaker 7 (01:51:17):
Better than yours. You played in much bigger games. See,
And that's where I was going. Is I mean you
can talk about talent as opposed to you know who
yours had around him, But I mean in terms of
counting on one guy as opposed to the other, I
would probably say you were.

Speaker 3 (01:51:32):
That's what I'm saying. So you may maybe you're like, say,
you no, I can get a guy who can throw
it in the third round or whatever. And the truth is, well,
I think cam Ward is the best quarterback in this draft.
The truth of the matter is, if we're all being honest,
I can't sit here and look you in the face
and say he's can't miss. Now, there's no guarantee. But
when I watched Andrew Luck play, or I watched Mahomes

(01:51:54):
got to the right coach. But you watch Mahomes play,
you watched certain guys that get it, You're like, come.

Speaker 7 (01:51:59):
On, man, Remember when Mahomes was drafted, people were like,
what the hell is Kansas City.

Speaker 3 (01:52:03):
Doing exactly and moved up to get him. And remember
he's coming from a system. We say we can't use
that system and be successful in the pros well, and
he read embraced it, and he got to the right
guy and it worked, And yes, yes you can. So
for me that the guy that you look at and
say or even listen, people held Watson in high regard
coming out of college right very much. Yeah, that is
as they should.

Speaker 12 (01:52:22):
Up.

Speaker 3 (01:52:22):
We're not talking about these players like that. And I
don't know. I knew l Way was going to be
a great player. Even if he missed. He was still
gonna be good. That's what you want. If Travis Hunter
is not great, he's still gonna be good in the
league for a dozen years. If cam Ward's not great
in his average, he'll be a journeyman in year three. Yep,
if Shador Sanders will play for eight different tea, which

(01:52:43):
is fine, But if you're investing in the first round pick,
that kills my franchise. So you got to ask yourself,
is there a big difference between the second quarterback and
the eighth quarterback picked in this draft? A lot of
times there is. I'm not sure this year that when
we talk ten years from now, that the guy who's
drafted as the fifth quarterback in this draft isn't going

(01:53:04):
to be the best player of the quarterbacks. That's when
you know, I know Travis Hunter is going to succeed.
Do you know that cam Ward or Jackson Darter a
franchise changers? I think there's just as many ifs as
there is yeses. It's it's a different level of expectations.
This is really what it comes down to me personally
in this draft. If I wasn't in necessary cam Ward,

(01:53:25):
maybe other than that, I ain't these quarterbacks wouldn't sniff
me in the top ten. I don't think it's worth it.
Now that's on paper. We've seen guys. All of a sudden,
the brock Purty rears his head as the last pick
of the draft and now he's going to be worth
sixty million bucks. Okay, but that's the aberration, that's not

(01:53:46):
the norm. I just don't looking at him, and I
try to study him pretty closely on pay cam Ward's
the best. But I can't sit here and tell you
that that Will Howard isn't going to be better than
Jaln Milroe or Jackson Dart three years from now. He's
another guy you forget. That's exactly right, and think about
Milrow now real quick, just real quick, before we go
to break in this system. Milroe twenty years ago would

(01:54:08):
have a hard time making it. Only reason why I said,
you know, because he's got such great feed. We didn't
take advantage you scrambled when necessary. We didn't build in
stuff for you. Watch built in place for that guy.
He's a freak, big local kid, obviously out of Katie
and a stead. As long as he gets with the
right coach to polish the passing, who's to say that
he's not going to be a monster at the next level.
Obviously he's got to improve as a pocket guy. But

(01:54:29):
we now have we've created guys that aren't pocket guys.
We can turn him into players now with the right
coaching because of the multiple formations, and we love to
use the legs not as just a checkdown, but as
a part of our offense, like teams are doing with
all these studs that can throw it and run it.
He just got to get better. But you can't tell
me that right now that you don't think Milrow. There's

(01:54:51):
no way Milro's better than Jackson Dart. How do we
know that? We don't. I knew Lway was better than most.
You could watch Marino and say can throw it. That
was only as close to a guarantee as you can get.
Do we have a guarantee at quarterback in this draft?
Cham's as close as they get, But there's not one
that's a guarantee. I was pretty much secure that Andrew
luck was going to be a really good player. Yeah,

(01:55:13):
I think we all knew that. I think cam Ward
can too. I got too many questions on some of
the other guys. There's gonna be a couple more first rounders,
but I'm not so sure that Will Howard or Quinn
Yours isn't better than the guy who's gonna be taken
in the first round.

Speaker 7 (01:55:26):
Yeah, that's an interesting situation. For some teams to be in. Luckily,
the Texans don't have to worry about that. Anthony c
right there. Brandon will get you guys involved in the conversation.
Also two, I mean listening to this guy talk yesterday again,
I know why he's here.

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Speaker 5 (01:57:29):
Putting the logic in illogical. Former pro John Salisbury continues
to break it down one seven ninety Anthony and deer
Park wants to wi in. Good morning Anthony, Hey, good
morning guys.

Speaker 8 (01:57:43):
Hey, So my question is is, so, in my opinion,
there's not a huge gap between Camward and Will Howard.
I do think cam Ward's better. I just don't think
there's a huge gap. So I'm just curious on y'all's thoughts.
As y'all are the Titans GM and y'all are looking
at this draft. There is a guy in this draft

(01:58:04):
that ninety nine point nine percent he is going to
come in and immediately change a franchise. And that's a
dual carter. So do you guys maybe like take a
step back and say, hey, next class is deeper, Let's
wait and get our guy next year and just go
with the best player that's going to immediately impact your franchise.

Speaker 3 (01:58:21):
Hi, Anthony, I am one hundred percent on Board with you,
and that does not mean I don't like cam Ward.
I do like him. One thing that bothers me about
cam Ward is he his propensity to turn the ball
over in games, but he also has an amazing trait
of throwing you back into it. The question is how
is that going to translate on Sundays? If you can,

(01:58:42):
will you be able to do it? I think he's
a really good player. I do, and I think you're
going to get a good player. I don't think he's
changing your franchise overnight. I don't. To me, there's a
couple of guys in your dity are going to play,
and I'll see you in twenty thirty six and there
may be more, but guys. Abdul Carter is a dominant player,
and so is Travis Hunter. They just are. Now you

(01:59:02):
can go lineman and the rest of it for me. Okay,
cam Ward's there. Do you think that team's a last
place team in the division? I do you talk about Tennessee? Yeah? Yeah,
I say, I think they're in some growing pains and
they need more playmakers. Sure now they may surprise us,
and Camboard may play great, And I'm all raised my
hand saying you know what, played better as a rookie

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than we thought. But he's going to start the second
he gets off the plane. That's exactly right. So I
do believe in him, but I don't love him. I
like him a lot, but I don't love him. Next
year's class is better, and I think you can get
by Hell, you almost get Sit there and say, let
me get out of this draft thing. I'll call up

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Aaron Rodgers. Hey, you know, if you're if you're, if
you have a propensity to say, it's just a one
year quick thing. Rogers can play. He's a pain in
the ass's right, and gives you a little hope, right,
even though he's indecisive. And if see, if I'm Pittsburgh,
I'm tired of waiting on his ass. I just am.
So I get that. But I'm with Anthony. I would

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get the guy that I know is going to dominate,
and Abdul Carter's is that player, and so is Travis Hunter. Okay,
of the three, who's a bigger guarantee? Give me the
order card? Just those three, Carter, Hunter, cam Ward. Now
cam Ward's gonna have the ball in his hands seventy times,
sixty five times, game so he's gonna impact who, in
your mind is a big give me the guarantees in order.

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If there was such a thing closest thing to it,
I would probably say Hunter first. I mean, just with
not knowing as much about Carter, and then I'll dull
Carter and then Cam wordon. Yeah.

Speaker 7 (02:00:38):
But then the problem that you run into with the
Titans is tickets and optics from the fan base. It's
not even about that. It's about Brian Callahan under a
new GM. You know how quickly they are to fire people.
If will Levis was just somewhat better, then we wouldn't
be having this conversation until next year. You can go
that you can't sell it to your fan base to
go ab dual Carter, and then you're saying, hey, you know,

(02:00:59):
even though we can kind of slided this guy, he's
still here in the building. So believe in us, because
I mean, you don't get replaced by Mason Rudolph because
you're playing okay, you get replaced by Mason Rudolph because
you're bad.

Speaker 3 (02:01:11):
Right, And you can throw it through a car wash
without getting a wet but you can't hit the car
wash half the time. That's the problem. With this real
quick and you're correct. And then with Callahan, it's like, okay,
another thing. A new coach, well, a coach in his
infancy as a head coach, which which Callahan is in,
do they give him a hall pass on a rookie
first round pick that even if they struggle, they say,

(02:01:32):
you know what, it's okay, he's a rookie. Now the
next year is important, right, So maybe draft of the
quarterback first gives Callahan a little more leeways. That's one
to think about. Two though, On the other side is
the optics for the face. It does matter to the
fan base because they think that they're they're they're without
even though Levis is still in the bit. They just do.
But the question then you ask to ask yourself is

(02:01:53):
how much better will we be with him now in
five years? If you think cam Woard's a franchise quarterback,
it's just going to take some growing pain. Draft him,
draft him. But for me, by the time the season's over,
I don't think cam Ward's Jade and Daniels, let's put
it that way. But I do think I do think
Abdul Carter is a disruptor big time, and I do

(02:02:14):
think that Travis Hunter could be, especially if he played one,
even at two, could be one of the best in
the league to eat a position. I think he's that talented.
I don't know where cam Ward's gonna fit in, and
I don't know if two years from now you're gonna
be saying bad team. Does he need a great team.
I think he's a playmaker. I don't love him. I
would if the optics didn't matter to the Tennessee fan

(02:02:35):
base and the Callahan's Hall Pass or what have you.
I don't think that we're coming out of this next
year saying cam Ward's Jaden Daniels, I just don't or
c J.

Speaker 7 (02:02:45):
Stroud capable organizations. I would say yes, but the Titans
the last couple of years have proven they are not that.
They fired Mike Frabel, a guy that took you to
the AFC Championship of place you had not sniffed in years.
But then you said, hey, that's not good enough, Let's
go get this guy.

Speaker 3 (02:02:59):
All you were asking Will Levis to make me a
few plays consistently, That's what you were asking. Did it
for one week last year unfortunately? Right, But you know what,
he's playing exactly like we thought that the experts who
didn't want to draft him in the first round said, inconsistent,
huge arm enormous skill set, but careless. But Sean, he

(02:03:20):
puts me in coffee. Well that's probably why he's careless.
So I just he can throw it, but there's so
much more to the position just throwing it. So I
am I want the guarantee unless the quarterbacks to guarantee.
When you say, Sean, there is no guarantees. You get
my point. The closest thing to it, the closest thing
to success in this draft ain't a quarterback.

Speaker 7 (02:03:41):
Well, it's just trying not to complicate things as much.
I mean, that's really what it comes down to. All Right,
we will continue the Texans conversation again. You know some
interesting things said yesterday from CJ. Gardner Johnson that I
feel like is a massive reason of why that deal
was made. Also to Carl Brandon. See you guys right there.
Don't forget Dana Brown going to join us. Bottom of

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weekly visit on the show, and the Rockets trying to
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at Toyta Center, Game two of that series. See Carl Brandon,
Steve gets you guys here in just a second. But Sean,
with the Texans currently, I mean as the team that's
in the building at the moment, I mean, you know
the guys are gonna draft, well they'll join them soon enough.

(02:05:23):
But you get some of the new faces, you get
some of the returning faces, you get some of the
guys that are those returning faces talking about the guys
that are a little longer here. Well, this offseason they
made a trade with Philly and you go get CJ.
Gardner Johnson.

Speaker 7 (02:05:37):
Outspoken guy, guy with a lot of personality, a lot
of charisma, all these different things, but a guy that
also will make plays for you on the field. And
that's something that excites the Texans fans. I'm sure the
brass all as a whole. But yesterday he had a
chance to speak with the media and he gets up
to the podium and he's wearing a hat that I
think he called a New Orleans hat. It almost kind

(02:05:58):
of looked like some of those hats that Cam Newton
will wear. I mean, you know, we know his head
where that he goes with. Every once in a while
he'll mix anough fes. But for this one, Gardner Johnson
just kind of showing off that personality yesterday. But I
think if nothing else, he went up there and talked
about things that I think Texans fans would hear and say, man,
that fires me up.

Speaker 3 (02:06:18):
One of them.

Speaker 7 (02:06:19):
What is the one thing that this team is trying
to do win a championship. They've never done it, They've
never gotten past the divisional round.

Speaker 3 (02:06:27):
CJ.

Speaker 7 (02:06:27):
Gardner Johnson has done exactly that, and he just did
it in Philadelphia. And he talks about winning championships and
trying to bring that.

Speaker 3 (02:06:34):
Here championship but nothing.

Speaker 13 (02:06:37):
He ain't bram me here to win no division or
no conference. So if I'm here help win the super Bowl,
that's gonna be the you know the reason. But a
lot of people look at this team is like, oh,
you know, they got a lot of great pieces. But
me to you, I think it's more than just got
a great pieces. You have a great culture here, a
great organization. I think the more you filled us up
with winners, not just me Colch Tomigo was a winner,
Dark Running Darby was a winner. Well was a winner.

(02:06:59):
So he gets filled it room up with winners. I
think you're gonna get what you want. I think we're
gonna get it real soon.

Speaker 3 (02:07:03):
Sean. Does that not fire you up? Yeah? It does.
The guy does know. And he's fresh off of uh
he hasn't even got his ring yet, has he? Or
have they got their rings yet? But good player been around,
you've seen him. You know, he was a saint and
obviously a Philadelphia Eagle. And don't kid yourself culture like
that in a building. Come into a building that has
good culture, but enhancing it. You guys, just there's certain

(02:07:27):
guys that there's a habit people get into. There's there's
people who know how to lose and people know how
to win. Yeah, you had some of those guys that
know how to lose last year. There's no question about it.
And so the guy understand. And I love the fact
that he said, you know, some guys will come and say, yeah,
I'm here to win. That's what I bring to the table.
He said, it's not just me, it's other guys. And
I think that's there because he's not really we're not

(02:07:48):
counting on him to be the best, the best defensive
back in the in the in the league. You're count
on him to be a guy that directs traffic, understands
little attitude, some swagger, some veteran presence on how to
deal with guys and what they're looking at. Oh, I
think it's a great git and it's a great get
from a guy who knows how to win and has
been used to it. He won in New Orleans. They

(02:08:09):
had they had some good seats and he wanted Philly.
He got a super boarding, and he was a big
part of it. So I am a big believer that
success begat success. I am, and I think they're both contagious,
losing and winning. And when you walk in and set
that tone right now that it's not your prep, not
the fact that you want to win. Who doesn't, it's

(02:08:29):
the refusal to lose. And I think he probably it
sounds like and just watching his career, he's got some
attitude and he'll he'll, he'll knock you around a little bit.
It sounds to me like he's got the attitude of
a refuse that to lose. There is no other option.
It's not just winning a division, it's not if it's win.
And I think that that will permeate through the building

(02:08:50):
if people are paying attention, and people do pay attention,
regardless of what you think about it. When a guy
has a ring on his finger and walks into your building,
it's different because he's got what how many guys in
this building have a ring? How many guys in this building? Coach?
I'd have to go through the coaches and say were
they had an assistant somewhere? But how many guys in
this building we know right now are wearing a Super

(02:09:12):
Bowl ring other than him. I mean, I'm have to
go through the backups on the roster. Yeah, look, just
go through the starters. I don't know, I mean yeah,
I just don't even think it's a handful. And nobody
on the defensive side of the ball starter has a ring.
Even when you were in San Francisco, they didn't win
a ring. They got there, didn't win a ring. So

(02:09:33):
who on the office said, Joe Mixon got there, didn't
win a ring. Stroud hadn't want a ring. Uh Nico
Collins doesn't want a ring. So the list goes on
and on who who has So to my now I
may be missing said there may be some oh sewan
that backup was the backup in you know when in

(02:09:55):
Kansas City when they it's not top of mind, right,
I'm just telling put it this way, there's no starter
that I can think of off the top of my
head that has a Super Bowl ring. If there is,
there ain't three of them. So do the math, and
it's it's the shiniest thing in the building.

Speaker 7 (02:10:11):
And it's it's intentional too, because that's what this offseason is.
If you had to guess what probably the first meeting
was between Demiko, Nick Cassio, the staff. Everybody was we
have to get guys in here that understand what winning
is because I think they thought this time last year
that they understood it, but then they found out pretty
quickly they had no idea and you saw the penalties

(02:10:34):
that just continued to fester all throughout the year. I mean,
you even get it into the divisional round game of
you know, hey, love Chris Boyd's fire and all that
kind of stuff, but that play got.

Speaker 3 (02:10:43):
You beat you know, you know who. It reminds me
of just attitude and the way they approach it on
a different side of the ball. He's Joe Mixon to
the defense, even though he's I was going to say
Steph Diggs, but yeah, that's a one point. I already
realized now who the spokesperson for this offense is. It's
Joe Mixon. Yeah, and he's only been here a year.

(02:11:05):
I'm just telling you he is. That's no slight against CJ.
But you're not at all. I don't need to be.
You could be a great leader without being the spokesperson. Sure,
Mixing is the guy, because I don't think Mixing's that.
I think the type of guy that takes it all
to come home, bring whatever you got. You know you're
not bothering me, always in front of the same way,
I feel like same. I already believe that when you
talk about okay, who's some voices and Will Anderson feels

(02:11:27):
like he's establishing it. But right now, I don't. I
don't think that either Mixing or Ciga are afraid to
put themselves out there for their team and themselves and
you need another voice. But this voice carries a ring
with it and it does matter, and so you need
more of them. But you also got to get the
guys around and says, yeah, man, I want to win,
all right, what's the commitment? Is there a refusal to

(02:11:49):
lose involved in that? And those guys are different, those
type of guys are different. And I think adding a
guy like this who you're basically got a player who
kind of is an extension of a coach on the field.
I don't think the conversation with lev I mean with Levis,
with with Demiko and with Casario, I'll bet you that

(02:12:11):
conversation didn't take long to get him here.

Speaker 7 (02:12:13):
Well, it's what it kind of reminds me of in
another example here in town. I mean when the when
the Rockets finally said we're going to sign veteran players,
it was intentional. You went out and got Dylan Brooks.
That guy's got you know what in them van Vliet's
ring there you go. I mean, it's intentional. It's bringing
in guys of saying, you think you know what it's
like to win in this league. I know what it's

(02:12:34):
like to win in this league.

Speaker 3 (02:12:34):
Talents first, well coached, development by coaches, people who coach
well and teach well. That's important. But I can also
tell you what's important is the chemistry and that feeling
of guys who know how to settle you down in
certain situations. There's players that are better than Fred Van
Vliet as a guard in this league. He's a really
solid player. And then you mix the great youth of talent.

(02:12:58):
The Texans have some of that, and then you add
a few key pieces of not just mouthpieces, but veterans
that can play and have expectations and raise your level.
It does matter.

Speaker 7 (02:13:11):
I mean, well, it's what's the saying, you know, how
you do one thing is how you do everything. I mean,
that's that's what I think is kind of what's trying
to be, you know, enforced in the building right now.

Speaker 3 (02:13:20):
And getting you talk about things that are intentional. Getting
him was intentional by the Texans, and he plays with
real intention too, and there is something about that. It's
fun to see and you know, it's it's funny.

Speaker 7 (02:13:31):
You know me and you have a mutual friend that
works up in Philadelphia, John kiin k does morning radio
up there, and I asked him when they got him.

Speaker 3 (02:13:37):
I said, said, hey, kind of a.

Speaker 7 (02:13:39):
Little bit of a wildcard, right, a little bit of
a loose canon, said, we'll get a penalty for a
hard hit, stuff like that, but he's not going to
get you beat for other reasons.

Speaker 3 (02:13:47):
Name me a team that doesn't have one of those guys.
That's it's good. The Raiders in the past, the Steelers
in the past, the Kansas City Chiefs current, the Ford.
Everybody has a gaiance with Ed Reed. That's exactly right
now that sometimes you got to back them off and say, man,
a late hit or not. But just you're playing through
the whistle and all that. I get it, and then

(02:14:09):
you're chattering to the ref and he may throw can't
have a lot of those, but you know, al sha,
here's got some of that in him. Sure he does.
It's okay, But I got to have guys with attitude.
I've said it before, I'll say it again. I need
a guy or guys that I got to grab by
the back of the jersey and say, let me back
you off, buddy, we're good. Hang in there. If I
got to poke and prod you to be that guy,

(02:14:32):
I'm in trouble. Yeah, and so I can.

Speaker 12 (02:14:35):
I can.

Speaker 3 (02:14:35):
I just assume have him test the waters. I'll deal
with that as opposed to a guy who's afraid to
put his toe in the water. That ain't him. I
need guys like that. Every good team I was ever on,
we had a dude that you're like, I know, he's
going to get us a penalty sometime this week, but
he's also going to get us out of some tough minds.
You know what you called that guy in high school,
the varsity D. Yeah, I mean, and you went with

(02:14:58):
guys that are the varsity D. As long as you
understand the parameters that you go into that purgatory area
where okay, you stepped across the line, just don't stay
there long, right, Yeah, because it's you don't want to
stay there long and need you, but you don't want
to get to the point where you're a detriment to
your team. And every now and again, sending a message
with a penalty without trying to hurt somebody is It's
like when a manager or a coach get kicked out

(02:15:20):
and you say, why do you get ejected for that?
He could feel his team needed it for a boost
and he maybe have been tired of want to go
get a shower early at the game. Yeah, there's a
method to it. And Adam CJ is a there's a
reason for it, and he knows how to win. It
was Rabbi night in the clubhouse. That's why I got
run early. Guys, Carl Brandon, Steve, see you guys right there.
Don't forget to fifteen minutes. Dana Brown gonna be joining

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Speaker 3 (02:17:26):
Ninety Steven Katie wants to weigh in Steve. What's going on?

Speaker 14 (02:17:30):
Hey, Bryan, Okay, so this is a no brainer Travis Hunter.
And here's the reason why he takes two positions. Two
out of twenty two is point oh nine percent. If
you have you have to get three quit players for him,
because if you just get two, they're not going to
be as good as him. Now you get the risk factor.
So so you're saying, well, if I get three, then
I got filled three positions at twin one three sixty three, Right,

(02:17:50):
it's a four and a half spread. Oh Okay, Well,
then he could get injured and so wanders as three.
The reason is they ain't like those of these quarterbacks
are like on Salisbury. They ain't as good as Salisbury.

Speaker 3 (02:18:02):
So now.

Speaker 2 (02:18:06):
I know.

Speaker 14 (02:18:07):
But the question is, so as a receiver he's probably
better than as a defender, he ain't as good. But
who was I'm gonna hang up and listen.

Speaker 10 (02:18:16):
But that's my pick.

Speaker 14 (02:18:17):
It's very simple.

Speaker 3 (02:18:19):
Yeah, at this stage of the game, if I don't
have a quarterback that wows me to the point of
that I love him, I'm taking the guy that does,
or the guys Abdul Carter. Does I think Travis On
I don't know. Let's say you thought and he isn't
and he's exactly right. He's with Steve, right. The cult
is that Steve. Yeah, Steve's exactly right. One is he's

(02:18:40):
not as good as his dad as a corner. I mean,
is as good as his dad, as good as Dion
as a corner. I always call him his dad because
it feels like he's saying it right. Yeah, as is
his coach. He's not as good. I can tell you
this though. As a corner, he's a better receiver. He's
got phenomenal ball skills when the ball is in the air.

(02:19:00):
As a quarterback guilty and greedy, I'd want him on
my side the ball every single snap. Now he's gonna
want to do both, and they're gonna put him out
there to see early at least in his career. He's
a good corner. Deon's a far better corner because Deon
Kuldbach and really and do it. But when you combine
the combination of both, the skill set is is Travis
Sunder's pretty freaking good. So to me, when I say, okay,

(02:19:23):
where's the closest can't miss? If I don't love somebody else,
it's him. You're gonna he's gonna start from day one.
But there there's other factors that come into it. Unfortunately,
for a Tennessee it's gonna be who are we gonna
run out there at quarterback? What's the fan base, season tickets,
all those things and you. But you can't just draft
a quarterback for that. You have to draft him. If

(02:19:44):
the Tennessee Titans draft him, it's got to be because
Callahan and the organization love the guy. You can't pick
a guy first if there's just as many ifs, if
there is, there is loves you just can't. If you do,
you're dumb as hell. So if they do draft him first, yes,
don't let them tell you that it's not part of
this franchise needs a We need some Vitamin B twelve. Right,

(02:20:05):
and cam Ward's a good player.

Speaker 10 (02:20:07):
Right.

Speaker 3 (02:20:08):
If you're asking me who's gonna have a better career,
ca cam Ward or Travis Hunter, I'm taking Travis Hunter over.
I think you'll have a better career now with the
quarterback with a ball in his hands sixty five times
a game. That's why it's such a tough position to judge.
Here's a guy who last year, cam Ward was in
the draft. If all those guys were in this draft,
you'd pick him twenty seventh. Shador Sanders and Jackson Dart

(02:20:32):
would not be picked in the first round last year.
They just would not. Now that doesn't matter. They're not
in last year's draft, they're in this one. But if
you're gonna negotiate the franchise, you've got to ask yourself
for your Tennessee and negotiate what going forward will we
look like three years to five years from now with
this guy. I'm not expecting to be Gray as a quarterback.
It's unfair to put C. J. Stroud and Jayden Daniels

(02:20:52):
as rookies what they did and say that, well, cam
Ward's gonna do may very well. But their team, both
washed in Houston, had better players going in for the
rookie quarterback. So I just like I said, and I
say it a million times if I was a general
manager to pick a quarterback there, regardless of what you

(02:21:13):
as a fan base or media think, I need the
best football player for my team for now, three years
from now, five years from now, ten years from now,
and a quarterback in this draft, isn't it now I'm
talking about that's pre draft? Do we really know?

Speaker 9 (02:21:28):
How?

Speaker 3 (02:21:28):
Did we really think jade nangel is going to be
that good as a rookie? No, but you knew he
would be good. Does that make sense? Yeah, But he's
growing pains and he's still going to He's got a
chance to be great, accurate, protect the ball, great feet
cam Ward. You talk it to the other team sometimes
a little careless, but he's a really big time playmaker
and he's got a lot of college experience like bow
Nicks had when he started as a rookie. So I

(02:21:50):
believe in him. The question is is a franchise changer?
If my quarterback's not a franchise changer, If you don't
think he is, draft somebody who's it's a twelve year starter.
That's Travis Hunter. But the other factor that comes in
is the quarterback position right now is so haggard there

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in Tennessee. I almost feel like I have to. But
if you're Brian Callahan and you don't love him, you
should do everything you can to talk them out of it.
But he's going to be the pick more than likely,
and I hope it works out because I like it.
I think he's a good player. But if I don't
love the guy, and I got more ifs than I
do answers, I ain't taking a quarterback in the first
ten picks. I'm just not. If that's the case, I

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got to make sure that it's close to I can.
There was not a lot of ifs around Joe Burrow's name. Now,
there just wasn't. There was not many ifs around his
name when you drafted him first, and for him to
fail would have been more shocking than if he succeeded.
It was questions about others, not him. That's exactly right now.
And Cincinnati being cheap, well they get him played all

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those things. I just that's a precious position and a
very difficult one to just in. Five years from now,
cam Ward maybe a pro bowler. Three times we'll say, see,
look what happened. He was even a better NFL player
than a college player. And he's a damn good college player.
But I can't eh, if I'm questioning, I may have
to get a guy later, trade down or grab the

(02:23:17):
I'm you see if I've said all along, I don't
know how Travis Hunter and Abdul Carter aren't the best
players in this draft.

Speaker 7 (02:23:22):
And the tight end at Penn State who I love. Yeah,
no doubt about it. See how it all plays out
tomorrow night. Dana Brown Weekly visit with us here on
the Shawn Salisbury Show.

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I've out there for the Sean Salisbury Show continued.

Speaker 3 (02:24:25):
Dana, welcome, man, man, good to discuss and talk with you.
I'm gonna start right here with this pitching staff. And
you know, since you've been here, they've been pretty good
at carrying and doing some phenomenal things. But Wesnsky getting
him here. Look what Gusco has done, not only in
the bullpen start and now you know the ability to
go back to the bullpen. Take a look at what

(02:24:46):
Ronell Blanco did last night the way Hunter Brown pitches
like an age Fromberg gave you six good Dan, If
this staff continues to get into the sixth inning and
the seventh inning, the hitting will turn around. That's got
to be a gold mine for you. With the way
they're pitching.

Speaker 10 (02:25:01):
Yeah, I'm really excited about the way our staff has
been pitching. You know, we're off to a really good start.
You know, the bats started off cold, but they're starting
to heat up right now, and so you know, the
pitching has been you know, carrying us early on this
season off to a much better start. You know, twelve
and one, one over two games back, you know, four

(02:25:23):
of our last five in his homestand and of course
you know five of our last seven. So we've been
playing some pretty good baseball. You know, the club is
starting to heat up, and once those bats get to
the point where they heat up, we'll be on all cylinders.
And it's really good to see that the pitching has
been doing well.

Speaker 3 (02:25:38):
Sure have, and it is great to see, Dana. And
this may be a question that I may be reaching
a little bit here, but a little bit of old school,
which you got that in you, but you know, time's changing.
You got to adapt to adjust. But it feels like,
are we making a switch in baseball? Or is it
just ironic that if a guy's going good and we're
on the bubble of okay, he's in the fifth inning,

(02:25:59):
he can give me fifteen more pitches. We're starting to
see it. Get into the sixth inning, it's no longer
okay to get to the fifth. Is there a concentrated
effort to push him more or is it just basically again,
how they're rolling and where they are in that game.

Speaker 10 (02:26:14):
Yeah, I think how they're rolling. You know, you look
at the stress of certain innings, and if you've got
a guy that's had two stressful innings, say the fourth
and fifth, and you know, you may decide to go
to the pen at that point. But if the guy's
cruising along a little bit and his pitch counts down,
you know, you'll you'll stend them out a little bit.
And I think, you know, Blanco was an example of

(02:26:36):
that yesterday. You know, he was cruising along, he wasn't
giving up many hits, and you know, we got six
and two thirds out of him, which was really exciting
to see. And you know, he was off to a
little bit of a slow start, but he's turning the corner,
you know, and he's been really good of late.

Speaker 3 (02:26:51):
The bullpen too, Dana. It's it's been pretty damn good.
And you know what the versatility and we'll get the
Forest Whitley in a second, but I do want to
get the hater. You know, had his ups and downs,
but saved a ton of games. And you know that's
why you traded for him and went and got here,
signed him and took care of getting him here. Should
I say? But Dana, there was questions, Okay, is he

(02:27:13):
worth the ninety plus million? Would you make that deal
all over again? Because he is rolling right now and
hasn't blown a save yet. Looks like the elite closer
that you went out and got.

Speaker 10 (02:27:23):
Yeah, he's off to a really good start.

Speaker 12 (02:27:25):
You know.

Speaker 10 (02:27:26):
Last year, unfortunately we got off to a slow start.
We were asking him to pitch, you know, multiple innings
and you know it compounded things, and so you know,
this year we're off to a little bit better start.
You know, he's pretty much in the groove right now,
and you know, let's uh, you know, he's gonna you know,
continue to throw well now like the way he's you

(02:27:46):
know been pitching. He's been he's been really really good
and he's showing us, you know, what he's capable of doing.
And so the bullpen itself has been really good. You know,
shout out to our group that brought in some of
those guys that are rolling well right now, you know,
and that's been really good. Like Oakert, the acquisition of
ok Work, you know that that's been pretty good. He's

(02:28:08):
been good for us. So it's been exciting to see
the pin so well. And uh, you know, like I
said once, it was bat feat up, we'll be on
all cylinders and hope we'll run off of you know,
a group of wins seven, seven in a row, five
in a row, ten in a row, whatever it is.

Speaker 3 (02:28:23):
Asos GM Dana Brown for his weekly visit A nine
thirty here on Sports Talk seven ninety Dana, are you
as giddy about the bullpen as you are about the
way the starting pitching is going for you right now?
Similar feeling?

Speaker 10 (02:28:35):
Yeah, I'm excited about both. You know, at the end
of the day, you know, you lose a guy like
arrag Getty and so, you know, and then you get
a you know, guy like Gusto who steps in and
does a pretty good job. That's always exciting, and so
I'm really excited about the way our arms have been
throwing the ball. You know, our starters have been really good.

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Our bullpen's been really good, and you know, pitching, pitching,
pitching is the name of the game. And you know
when you when you guys are throwing well, you got
a chance to run off some wins. And so it's
been exciting to watch.

Speaker 3 (02:29:07):
I was really proud and happy for Force Whitley. Those
two strong innings. Boy, what a road and Danna, you know,
the road started before you got here, and you know,
whether it's an injury or an unfortunate break or whatever mechanics,
and then he came in gave you two solid innings.
You you had to love to see that. And if
he is that guy getting McCullers back and Gusto and
the names you just mentioned, Boy, won't that be good

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for not only lengthening a bullpen, but also a fresher bullpen.
That had to be really really nice to see for
you and for Force Whitdley, very nice to see.

Speaker 10 (02:29:40):
You know, he's been on this road trying to get
to the big leagues and do well. To see him
come in the other day two, Queen innings punched out
to up to ninety seven. Yeah, that's pretty exciting to watch.

Speaker 3 (02:29:55):
Bencer Aarraghetti. Where are we at with him?

Speaker 10 (02:29:59):
Yeah, ser Getty spoke to him at Lenz yesterday. He
actually feels pretty good. You know, we think it'd probably
be about, you know, for four more weeks or so, uh,
you know, before he can get out there on the mound.
And so, but he's he's healing nicely. Freak accident, as

(02:30:20):
I said before, but he feels confident and he feels
pretty good, to be honest.

Speaker 3 (02:30:25):
And now, how about Garcia? Any updates? Throwing the ball
around a little bit. What do we hear and see
about him?

Speaker 10 (02:30:33):
Yeah, Garcia's doing some tauson.

Speaker 4 (02:30:35):
Uh.

Speaker 10 (02:30:35):
You know, I was looking forward to him at some point,
you know, getting back on the mound. But you know,
as you mentioned, you know, think about if you know
this the way we're throwing now, you get Garcia back,
you get m Colors back, you get Erra Getty back now,
and that's the makings of that's like the makings of
a powerhouse, you know, you know type pitching staff. And

(02:30:57):
so you know, Garcia at some point get off of
mound and Uh. You know, we'll have more updates that
once he starts to get off the mound. But at
least he's uh, you know, playing catch and developing nicer.

Speaker 3 (02:31:11):
Any at all, Danny, any timetable at all? I mean
within thirty days that we're looking at post trade deadline,
any any for like to get fan base excited? Is
there anything? Or are we way off from.

Speaker 8 (02:31:23):
That right now?

Speaker 5 (02:31:25):
Yeah?

Speaker 10 (02:31:25):
I wouldn't say we're way off. I just don't have
a timetable, But I wouldn't say we're far off.

Speaker 3 (02:31:32):
If I if I came to you and I and
I hadn't seen Parade his play and I've been watching
him this year. What's uh, what would be your description
of him to me as a new addition to this team.

Speaker 10 (02:31:47):
Yeah, playing very well defensively, pool hitter who's going to
hit some balls in the Crawford boxes. And I was
excited to see him go the other way and get
a hit the other way to right field. You know.
So he's been, you know, a very welcome edition to
this club. He's been very good at third base, and
we know he's going to put some balls into the

(02:32:08):
crows for boxes, and so you know, we're we're excited
about We're excited about Peretis' he's done a good job.

Speaker 3 (02:32:14):
Yeah, everybody in that trade, Wesnski him and obviously Cam
and right field, who's made some good play. We made
a great defensive playing those two home runs must have
been nice. Let me get over to Christian Walker. Have
you had a conversation with him through this, uh, this
power struggle and the hitting you got the you know,
three hits yesterday was big. But if you guys talked
through this at all, Dana and give me a feel
on his his psyche right now.

Speaker 10 (02:32:37):
Absolutely, his head is in a good space.

Speaker 8 (02:32:39):
You know.

Speaker 10 (02:32:40):
We gave him a day off, which I thought was
you know, great by Joe. Uh, you know, just giving
him some time to really like think about it and
rest and and uh, you know, you got him back
in there and then all of a sudden, boom, you
get three hits. You know, we talked about this last week.
Sometimes you get a day off. Sometimes it's a pitch,
sometimes it's a blue pitch they get you're going and

(02:33:01):
you know, it looks like the day off, you know,
has has really helped him and hopefully he can continue
to swing the bat well, you know, shout out to
Joe for doing that. Also shout out to Joe for
getting his hundredth win last night.

Speaker 3 (02:33:14):
Congratulations.

Speaker 10 (02:33:15):
Yeah, you know, yeah, that's that's that's a that's a
big that's a big moment for him. And so you know,
Joe did the right thing by giving him a day
off and you know, just giving him some time to
just think and sit sit, sit down and just reflect
on you know, what's going on. And you know, his
head been a good space. I talked to him around
the batting cages, you know, I always try to make

(02:33:35):
it a point to get down and talk to our guys,
and you know, he's still in the good space. He's
still confident, he still knows that he's a good player.
And so getting the three hits is, uh, you know,
an open door of a bunch of hopefully.

Speaker 3 (02:33:48):
We know the great success of Jordan and how good
a hitter he is. The power and the consistency. Are
you seeing anything different mechanically? I know it's early data,
but we're just not used to this with this guy, right,
So so so talk talk talk us off the ledge
with Jordan.

Speaker 9 (02:34:06):
Yeah, so I would say to our our listeners, look,
jord On has been pretty unlucky. He's hitting a lot
of balls hard. You know a lot of times when
those balls fall, you know, these hits, they start to
come in bunches. So uh, you know, I would be
worried if, you know, uh, he was being overmatched or.

Speaker 10 (02:34:23):
Something like that.

Speaker 9 (02:34:23):
No, he's hitting the ball really hard. His exit velocities
are really good, and uh, you know, at some point
those balls will start to fall and he'll break out
of it. Look, he's he's one of the best hitters
in baseball. You know, left hand left hand power, could
really hit and uh, you know, make no mistake, we
feel really good about him turning it turning it around.

Speaker 3 (02:34:44):
You're seeing some we've seen some signs also of yain
or getting into a little bit more right, Dana. I mean,
he looks a little better at the plate. Are you
seeing something mechanically or just confidence wise, or is it
just getting more advance? What are you seeing with him
that tells you he's about to turn it around?

Speaker 10 (02:35:00):
Yeah, I think something, you know, well, what I think
about Jiner is just that, you know, if we could
just have him relax a little bit, he's getting a
little overanxious. He's you know, he'll chase balls out of
the zone. If he would just get the picture to
come into that zone, he's devastating when when he hits strikes,
that's when all the hits are going to come, and

(02:35:22):
they'll come in bunches. I think he's trying. You know,
you start when you start off slow, you start to press,
and you know, you try to do too much. That's
just the nature of you know, these the the the athletes,
and so I think if he gets just calm and
stuff down a little bit, look, swing it strikes, don't
try to do too much. Sometimes you just need to
line right, base hit to right. Other times you need

(02:35:44):
to pull home run, you know, but you don't have to,
you know, hit home runs every time. You don't. You
don't have to make it.

Speaker 3 (02:35:52):
All happen at once.

Speaker 10 (02:35:53):
Take the base hit to right, take the base hit
up the middle, and then that could lead to the
home run.

Speaker 3 (02:36:00):
Brown ashs GM for a couple more minutes here on
Sports Talk seven nineties. He does weekly on Wednesdays for
his nine thirty visit All right, Dan, your glass half
full guy, and you've always and you've you've set us
straight plenty of times on the length of the season.
And it's early, and it's it's held true the last
couple of years. Let me ask you, though, when it
come to Jesus. If we're sitting around and Joe comes

(02:36:20):
to you and says, the one thing that has to
get better, I don't even care if it's an individual
or a grouping. What's the one thing that you have
got to see improve for your team to you know,
when we get the thirty games in and forty games
and to be where you want him to be early
in the season.

Speaker 10 (02:36:37):
Yeah, I just think our hitters need to be disciplined.
You know, sometimes we get over angeous, we start to chase,
and once we lock into that strike zone, I think
that's when the bats are going to be on all cylinders.
And you know, you got the pitching right now, you
got the defense that's playing well, and once we get
locked in and and and then you know, stop being

(02:36:58):
over anxious, you know, have to play.

Speaker 9 (02:37:00):
I think we're you know, at times, trying to do
too much. When those bats get locked in, I think
this team will run on all cylinders and and we'll
we'll we'll build some type of lead and and get over,
you know, get and stay over five hundred by multiple games,
and that's the goal. You know, the goal is to
you know, build that lead, try to get up you know,

(02:37:21):
multiple double digits over five.

Speaker 10 (02:37:23):
Hundred and and you know, get in first place for
two games back and then you know, win this division
and get deep into the postseason. And that's you know,
that's the goal. And I think that this club is
a really good club. I think it's starting to really
shape up. The pitching is good, the defense good, and
the bats are coming.

Speaker 3 (02:37:39):
I don't want to get ahead of myself, but I'm
going to And I've done this with you before, and
you've been straight out honest with anything that I've asked you.
When do you start to discuss or have you Hunter
Brown extension?

Speaker 10 (02:37:53):
Yeah? Look, I mean at the end of the day,
you know, we've we're really excited about what Brown is
doing here. He's been outstanding, and at some point, you know,
we'll we'll have those discussions. But you know, we're going
to ride the wave right now, you know, can we
we have them under control? Ye, And so at some point,

(02:38:14):
you know, we will have a discussion, you know about
extending Brown. And Brown loves being here. Uh, he loves
what the pitching staff has done with him, and and
so ultimately, uh, you know, we feel good about him
here in Houston, and so at some point we will
have a conversation. But he's under control right now and

(02:38:35):
and we love having them.

Speaker 3 (02:38:36):
So under control. But so you haven't had any conversations
with the agent yet, have you?

Speaker 11 (02:38:40):
Or have you?

Speaker 8 (02:38:41):
Dana?

Speaker 10 (02:38:43):
Yeah, you know, look, we don't. We don't get into
you know, our extensions and and and what the plans
are and how much conversations that we're going to have
with these guys. But you know, make no mistake that, uh,
there will be discussions about Brown and and and at
some point. And so I mean that's pretty much all

(02:39:03):
I could say.

Speaker 3 (02:39:04):
Yeah, he's pretty good any data, he ain't bad.

Speaker 10 (02:39:08):
Yeah, he's pretty good. He's been dominant and it's been
fun to watch, and you know, you just you enjoy,
you know, watching them. I told him, I said, hey,
those that outing that you had the other night, I said,
look that that keeps my blood pressure down, So keep it,
keep it going.

Speaker 3 (02:39:24):
Yeah, he's pretty damn good and pretty damn dominant. And
now that he realizes it, he's dangerous to opposing hitters,
that's for sure. Data great stuff, it's great to see
the improvement, and you know, the thumbs up to Forrest
Whitley for his battle back and keep this thing going. Man,
ball starts sailing out of the ballpark. We always appreciate
your honesty with us each week, my man.

Speaker 10 (02:39:42):
Thank you, all right, man, appreciate you guys having me on.
Go ask your fans. Let's get on all cylinders with
the offense, and let's keep it rolling.

Speaker 3 (02:39:50):
There you go, Dana, we'll talk to you next week.
Thank you, sir. Appreciate it. That's Dana Brown. We'll come
back and discuss. I think they know the importance of
Hunter Brown, and so does Dana Brown. And I liked it.
I push it, and he doesn't. Sean, we can't talk
about that just yet. I love it, which tells me
he knows how good Hunter Brown is. It's Sports Talk
seven night to come right back and.

Speaker 5 (02:40:09):
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k tr Ahe Sean, there was just so much more
stuff we could talk about. Well we just I mean
you hear the Chili Peppers playing What Can I Do?
Flies for four hours?

Speaker 2 (02:40:37):
Man?

Speaker 3 (02:40:38):
Rather you know, I know that's it. So we had
to keep Dan Brown a little longer, for sure. I
had to push that envelope a little bit today. You
know it, you know it.

Speaker 7 (02:40:45):
So any of this stuff we can carry over tomorrow
Round one NFL Draft. You know that's topic conversation. Carl Brandon. Sorry,
I didn't have time for you today. Call us back tomorrow.

Speaker 3 (02:40:53):
We'll get you.

Speaker 7 (02:40:54):
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