April 22, 2025 • 8 mins
Teeing off their three game series against Toronto yesterday evening with Hunter Brown on the bump for the Astros, lots of talk has now risen following his phenomenal outing yesterday against the Blue Jays now putting the Astros at a standing of .500 as a ball club. Pitching 7 shut out innings followed with only two hits given and 9 strikeouts, Hunter raises eyes with his lights out performance as to who may take the realm as the Astros Ace rolling into next season. Sean and Dan discuss the possibility of Hunter becoming the Astros frontline starter rolling into next season if not early-on this season in the postseason along with a few things to manage before then before it becomes 'too late'.
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Speaker 3 (00:00):
Hunter Brown.
Speaker 1 (00:00):
You know, we talked about the possibilities for him all
Star wise, Sean. Here was another thing that came to
mind for me last night. I immediately started looking, and there's
a good site you can go to. Spot Track is
the name of the site where you can check on
contract situations and how much control do the astros have
over him? Well, he's got three more years of arbitration
(00:22):
and he is currently making eight hundred and seven thousand
dollars this.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
Season, most underpaid pitcher in baseball. Problem easily easily.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
I took it a step further that I know that
sometimes we kind of feel like there's a slow playing
when it comes to contracts here, and I feel like
that this organization turned over a new leaf last year
of saying kind of like what you guys talked about
yesterday with Steve Sparks, thirteen years of club control over
having a guy for one year because we're not lost
on what Kyle Tucker's doing right now, but so but you.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
Shouldn't be surprised. Sure when the guy's on the field,
he's been a producer bad right, you knew this was
and this is you traded him because if he came
back it was productive. It's gonna cost you four hundred
million or three eighty or three fifty whatever it is,
thirty five a million, of course, so you got it
while the getting was good. He's raking he I mean,
(01:13):
they're gonna love him there, quiet takes care of his business.
Speaker 3 (01:16):
I didn't expect anything more.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
Heck, I'm actually pleased with the three guys when you
knew what Kyle Tucker was gonna do. I don't know
if we knew west Nesky was this good. I don't
know if we knew that Paradus. It feels like Paradis
has been a leader on the team for a few
of me just kind of fits right in.
Speaker 3 (01:31):
You're hitting him in a two hole.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
You can hit him in a two I mean, did
dive if I'm not mistaken, he was hitting in the
three or four hole?
Speaker 3 (01:37):
Yeah, yeah, exactly, that's right.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
And uh so I don't and then you obviously Cam
Smith's a budding superstar. You can see just simple things
like getting thrown upstairs at ninety eight and fighting it
off and base hit the right field. I mean the
guy in then a couple of homers. So yeah, I mean,
I think both teams are winning with this trade. No shock,
Kyle Tuck, you weren't going to him, but I got
(02:00):
news for you. You're right, certain guys fall under the
you might want to get out in front of this thing.
He's becoming that guy. Not just a guy, he is
that guy.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
And that's where I'm going is Dana Brown? I mean,
just from his words and also just how the Kyle
A excuse me, the Alex Brugman contract situation was handled.
I think that more or less it was just looked
at as hey, look, we're not going to bit against ourselves.
We know that somebody is going to be a higher
bitterer than us. We're just we've got to move on.
We've got to be able to build up our team
this way. But if you're Dana Brown, now, hey Scott,
(02:35):
how you doing, buddy?
Speaker 3 (02:37):
It's Dana.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
Let's talk about Hunter and Letty. Let's let's avoid these
three years of arbitration. Let's get the guy paid right now,
and let's get this thing locked up. And if you're
Hunter Brown, you look at it, and he's what twenty
five years old? You put us six years twenty five
per in front of him right now. I think he
takes it because one question is does Scott Boris take it?
(03:00):
I mean, I get that, but I mean I think
if you're Hunter Brown as opposed to making five six
years plus.
Speaker 3 (03:06):
You said six years for a buck fifty.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
Yeah, all going from eight hundred thousand to twenty five
million years ago. Yeah, that's a hell of a pay race.
But one thing you got to remember is who you're
dealing with. Because if you go in right now and
say six years for a buck fifty, do you know
what Scott Boriss is gonna say. If that's your first offer,
(03:32):
You're gonna have to raise that. You get I'm talking
about if you're boss, because what listen, it ain't like
he's he low balls anybody. You know, he's gonna he's
gonna squeeze the turn up for every ounce, knowing what
he's got as a frontline starter, knowing the premium placed
on guys like Connor Brown at his age, being that dominant,
(03:55):
you could actually hold the cards on this one and
say twenty five is not enough. Now to you and me,
it's like, come on, man, you get this. You you know,
eliminate three years of arbitration, You got a six year deal,
You get your stud locked up quite frankly, by the
time he's thirty. It's a bargain price, man, even hell,
(04:15):
it maybe the second he sidnes it right in this
day and age. So I am with you, Oh, if
you're I don't know what the price is going to be,
If you're asking me, do you jump all over it? Absolutely,
You've got to treat Hunter Brown as the Pitcher's version
of Jordan Alvarez.
Speaker 3 (04:33):
That's what you have to do.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
And I think you're at that point because you know,
it's one thing to keep losing people. You need what
Jim mister Crane has with had with Verlander, that that's
just the guy that this is. He's our guy, and
he's you know, when he came here, We're going to
pay him extra whatever it takes to keep him here
for the most part until you know he's in his forties, right,
(04:56):
and get that production and they did, you know, whether
it's leave and come back, whether it's keeping here, sign
another twenty five million dollars, whatever it is. And Hunter
Brown's a younger version of that for the obvious reasons
that we all have talked about. But yeah, I like
the idea and I love where you're going with it.
I just don't know what it's going to take. And
I don't know if in Scott Boris's mind, if twenty
(05:16):
five million year is fair.
Speaker 3 (05:18):
Now you and I are looking like, dude, you make
eight hundred grand a year and you're the most underpaid pig.
I don't know what schoobl makes. Do we know what
he makes? Did he get a new contract? Not yet?
Speaker 2 (05:28):
Okay, so he's on line to get paid, right, But
I'm just going through and thinking, Man, if if I'm
if I'm if I'm Scott Boris, wouldn't you battle that
a little bit?
Speaker 3 (05:38):
I would?
Speaker 2 (05:39):
And if you're Dana Brown, you don't want to let
this continue on because you know what the truth is.
If this keeps up by the end of the year,
you won't be offered in twenty five million a year.
You'll have to offer him more than that. Right, It's
almost he can pay me now or pay me later.
Will you want to jump out in front of it?
I don't know if they think it's premature to get out.
The one thing they do, they get after it, but
they use the term we're not going to rush anything
(06:01):
injuries contracts, and there might be a certain time when
you might need to put a little rush order on it, right,
pay the extra three dollars fee to get it here
a little quicker.
Speaker 3 (06:12):
But I just don't know.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
The guy is so dominant right now, and every time
he goes out there, he's added he's changed more money
to his bank account.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
And that's where I was going with the turnover a
new leaf. Because you didn't trade Kyle Tucker the last
few years. You would have let it ride. You would
have said, one more run with this guy and then
we'll worry about it from there. But Dana Brown, I think,
looked at this organization and said, we can't keep living
this life.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
Guys, Well, eventually you lose a player, a player after
a player after player. Core Wise, yeah, eventually you don't
go from restock and you do have to rebuild m H.
The way they're working it though, by camp Smith playing
every day, Dezenzo getting his you're thinking, okay, there's a
future there. Paradis is a good player, you know. Christian Walker,
although in his thirties, hopefully has more game. You know,
(06:55):
Payne is young. Al Tuove is not going anywhere. Jordan Alvarez,
he's going to get it going. You look and say, okay,
we don't have to. This isn't a rebuild. We're starting,
I mean with the mix of youth and then the
pitching staff. You know, if Whitley can continue this, man,
what a blessing that is. You start to see wiz
an Eski, You start to see the gustos, you start
(07:16):
to see the way I mean Fromber's still young, obviously,
Hunter Brown, you used to look around Arraghetty's young and
the anticipation of mccullor's coming back. There's a lot of
good to like with veterans and youth mix, and you
do have to bridge that gap. That's why they suffered
with you know when they lost these first round picks
because of the sign stealing stuff set them back. But
(07:37):
how quickly you can retool that part of it to
be able to retool your roster and use it wisely,
it's huge. So yeah, the mix is there, and the
question is when do you decide the time. Now you
have them under control, that's fine, so they really that
urgency is not there. But the urgency to just secure
(07:58):
it up so you can go focus on something else.
Speaker 1 (08:01):
Wouldn't be a bad idea. I mean, we see it
all the time in the NFL. You lock up your
franchise quarterback. This guy's a franchise pitcher. So the further
you get into arbitration, the lesser of a chance you
have to be able to have an agreeable number with
this guy. So I think you get it done as
soon as you can. Scooball by the way, has another
year of arbitration, but he's making ten point one this year.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
Think about that now, and rightfully, the guy's worth far
more than that. But I think and a premium is
a lefty right, you're and he's underpaid.
Speaker 3 (08:32):
So now do the math.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
Yeah, you think the guy here is underpaid, You could
almost triple that. Yeah, no question about it. So the Astros,
the ball is in your court right now.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
I mean, the Hunter Brown is absolutely worth it, and
he has proven that at this moment. All right, let's
stick with the pitching because something that you mentioned in
the first segment, Seawan, that reminded me of last year,
and it's much better this time around. We'll talk about
it here. Sean Salisbury Show
Hunter Brown.
Speaker 1 (00:00):
You know, we talked about the possibilities for him all
Star wise, Sean. Here was another thing that came to
mind for me last night. I immediately started looking, and there's
a good site you can go to. Spot Track is
the name of the site where you can check on
contract situations and how much control do the astros have
over him? Well, he's got three more years of arbitration
(00:22):
and he is currently making eight hundred and seven thousand
dollars this.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
Season, most underpaid pitcher in baseball. Problem easily easily.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
I took it a step further that I know that
sometimes we kind of feel like there's a slow playing
when it comes to contracts here, and I feel like
that this organization turned over a new leaf last year
of saying kind of like what you guys talked about
yesterday with Steve Sparks, thirteen years of club control over
having a guy for one year because we're not lost
on what Kyle Tucker's doing right now, but so but you.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
Shouldn't be surprised. Sure when the guy's on the field,
he's been a producer bad right, you knew this was
and this is you traded him because if he came
back it was productive. It's gonna cost you four hundred
million or three eighty or three fifty whatever it is,
thirty five a million, of course, so you got it
while the getting was good. He's raking he I mean,
(01:13):
they're gonna love him there, quiet takes care of his business.
Speaker 3 (01:16):
I didn't expect anything more.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
Heck, I'm actually pleased with the three guys when you
knew what Kyle Tucker was gonna do. I don't know
if we knew west Nesky was this good. I don't
know if we knew that Paradus. It feels like Paradis
has been a leader on the team for a few
of me just kind of fits right in.
Speaker 3 (01:31):
You're hitting him in a two hole.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
You can hit him in a two I mean, did
dive if I'm not mistaken, he was hitting in the
three or four hole?
Speaker 3 (01:37):
Yeah, yeah, exactly, that's right.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
And uh so I don't and then you obviously Cam
Smith's a budding superstar. You can see just simple things
like getting thrown upstairs at ninety eight and fighting it
off and base hit the right field. I mean the
guy in then a couple of homers. So yeah, I mean,
I think both teams are winning with this trade. No shock,
Kyle Tuck, you weren't going to him, but I got
(02:00):
news for you. You're right, certain guys fall under the
you might want to get out in front of this thing.
He's becoming that guy. Not just a guy, he is
that guy.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
And that's where I'm going is Dana Brown? I mean,
just from his words and also just how the Kyle
A excuse me, the Alex Brugman contract situation was handled.
I think that more or less it was just looked
at as hey, look, we're not going to bit against ourselves.
We know that somebody is going to be a higher
bitterer than us. We're just we've got to move on.
We've got to be able to build up our team
this way. But if you're Dana Brown, now, hey Scott,
(02:35):
how you doing, buddy?
Speaker 3 (02:37):
It's Dana.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
Let's talk about Hunter and Letty. Let's let's avoid these
three years of arbitration. Let's get the guy paid right now,
and let's get this thing locked up. And if you're
Hunter Brown, you look at it, and he's what twenty
five years old? You put us six years twenty five
per in front of him right now. I think he
takes it because one question is does Scott Boris take it?
(03:00):
I mean, I get that, but I mean I think
if you're Hunter Brown as opposed to making five six
years plus.
Speaker 3 (03:06):
You said six years for a buck fifty.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
Yeah, all going from eight hundred thousand to twenty five
million years ago. Yeah, that's a hell of a pay race.
But one thing you got to remember is who you're
dealing with. Because if you go in right now and
say six years for a buck fifty, do you know
what Scott Boriss is gonna say. If that's your first offer,
(03:32):
You're gonna have to raise that. You get I'm talking
about if you're boss, because what listen, it ain't like
he's he low balls anybody. You know, he's gonna he's
gonna squeeze the turn up for every ounce, knowing what
he's got as a frontline starter, knowing the premium placed
on guys like Connor Brown at his age, being that dominant,
(03:55):
you could actually hold the cards on this one and
say twenty five is not enough. Now to you and me,
it's like, come on, man, you get this. You you know,
eliminate three years of arbitration, You got a six year deal,
You get your stud locked up quite frankly, by the
time he's thirty. It's a bargain price, man, even hell,
(04:15):
it maybe the second he sidnes it right in this
day and age. So I am with you, Oh, if
you're I don't know what the price is going to be,
If you're asking me, do you jump all over it? Absolutely,
You've got to treat Hunter Brown as the Pitcher's version
of Jordan Alvarez.
Speaker 3 (04:33):
That's what you have to do.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
And I think you're at that point because you know,
it's one thing to keep losing people. You need what
Jim mister Crane has with had with Verlander, that that's
just the guy that this is. He's our guy, and
he's you know, when he came here, We're going to
pay him extra whatever it takes to keep him here
for the most part until you know he's in his forties, right,
(04:56):
and get that production and they did, you know, whether
it's leave and come back, whether it's keeping here, sign
another twenty five million dollars, whatever it is. And Hunter
Brown's a younger version of that for the obvious reasons
that we all have talked about. But yeah, I like
the idea and I love where you're going with it.
I just don't know what it's going to take. And
I don't know if in Scott Boris's mind, if twenty
(05:16):
five million year is fair.
Speaker 3 (05:18):
Now you and I are looking like, dude, you make
eight hundred grand a year and you're the most underpaid pig.
I don't know what schoobl makes. Do we know what
he makes? Did he get a new contract? Not yet?
Speaker 2 (05:28):
Okay, so he's on line to get paid, right, But
I'm just going through and thinking, Man, if if I'm
if I'm if I'm Scott Boris, wouldn't you battle that
a little bit?
Speaker 3 (05:38):
I would?
Speaker 2 (05:39):
And if you're Dana Brown, you don't want to let
this continue on because you know what the truth is.
If this keeps up by the end of the year,
you won't be offered in twenty five million a year.
You'll have to offer him more than that. Right, It's
almost he can pay me now or pay me later.
Will you want to jump out in front of it?
I don't know if they think it's premature to get out.
The one thing they do, they get after it, but
they use the term we're not going to rush anything
(06:01):
injuries contracts, and there might be a certain time when
you might need to put a little rush order on it, right,
pay the extra three dollars fee to get it here
a little quicker.
Speaker 3 (06:12):
But I just don't know.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
The guy is so dominant right now, and every time
he goes out there, he's added he's changed more money
to his bank account.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
And that's where I was going with the turnover a
new leaf. Because you didn't trade Kyle Tucker the last
few years. You would have let it ride. You would
have said, one more run with this guy and then
we'll worry about it from there. But Dana Brown, I think,
looked at this organization and said, we can't keep living
this life.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
Guys, Well, eventually you lose a player, a player after
a player after player. Core Wise, yeah, eventually you don't
go from restock and you do have to rebuild m H.
The way they're working it though, by camp Smith playing
every day, Dezenzo getting his you're thinking, okay, there's a
future there. Paradis is a good player, you know. Christian Walker,
although in his thirties, hopefully has more game. You know,
(06:55):
Payne is young. Al Tuove is not going anywhere. Jordan Alvarez,
he's going to get it going. You look and say, okay,
we don't have to. This isn't a rebuild. We're starting,
I mean with the mix of youth and then the
pitching staff. You know, if Whitley can continue this, man,
what a blessing that is. You start to see wiz
an Eski, You start to see the gustos, you start
(07:16):
to see the way I mean Fromber's still young, obviously,
Hunter Brown, you used to look around Arraghetty's young and
the anticipation of mccullor's coming back. There's a lot of
good to like with veterans and youth mix, and you
do have to bridge that gap. That's why they suffered
with you know when they lost these first round picks
because of the sign stealing stuff set them back. But
(07:37):
how quickly you can retool that part of it to
be able to retool your roster and use it wisely,
it's huge. So yeah, the mix is there, and the
question is when do you decide the time. Now you
have them under control, that's fine, so they really that
urgency is not there. But the urgency to just secure
(07:58):
it up so you can go focus on something else.
Speaker 1 (08:01):
Wouldn't be a bad idea. I mean, we see it
all the time in the NFL. You lock up your
franchise quarterback. This guy's a franchise pitcher. So the further
you get into arbitration, the lesser of a chance you
have to be able to have an agreeable number with
this guy. So I think you get it done as
soon as you can. Scooball by the way, has another
year of arbitration, but he's making ten point one this year.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
Think about that now, and rightfully, the guy's worth far
more than that. But I think and a premium is
a lefty right, you're and he's underpaid.
Speaker 3 (08:32):
So now do the math.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
Yeah, you think the guy here is underpaid, You could
almost triple that. Yeah, no question about it. So the Astros,
the ball is in your court right now.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
I mean, the Hunter Brown is absolutely worth it, and
he has proven that at this moment. All right, let's
stick with the pitching because something that you mentioned in
the first segment, Seawan, that reminded me of last year,
and it's much better this time around. We'll talk about
it here. Sean Salisbury Show
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