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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Salsbury.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Okay, let's do this Sewn Salisbury.
Speaker 3 (00:12):
To usc Troupes, longtime friend Shawn Salisbury.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Dan matthewscuse, this is the Sean Salisbury show.
Speaker 4 (00:23):
Three two and that a strike three call right on
the inside border at ninety eight Roadent goes down looking
and the Blue Jays are retired. Six strikeouts for Brown,
and we're through four and a half at Dyke in
Park one one. That's back the other way to write
fairly deeps Ringer racing back looking up off the wall
around third spend.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
He will score and the third.
Speaker 4 (00:45):
Base goes Rogers. It's an RBI double for Zach de
Censo and the Astros lateen on to nothing. The Censo
second run back at another year's been the kick in
the pitch and I'll two eight lines this one in
the left field, racing.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
Wrote it, and that what hops down of town scoreboard.
Speaker 4 (01:03):
Rogers scores Dessentio right behind him. He scores two run
double for Rose l two bank free to nothing Astros.
Speaker 5 (01:11):
Brown's too two bitch breaking ball, ground ball to the shortstop.
Paynya reliable shortstop, throws out Javettees. That's out number three
seven shut out innings for Hunter Brown. That's twenty four
consecutives scoreless eddings per Hunter.
Speaker 6 (01:29):
You know Ted Nugent Sean used to be known as
the MotorCity mad Man. Well, Ted, I got bad news
for you. The MotorCity mad Man is now here in Houston.
As the Astros went last night seven to nothing to
open up their series against the Blue Jays, and with
all that we say away we go, good morning.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
Good morning. Yeah, old Hunter Brown continues to show everybody
why he's a dog. Okay, in the good in the
best of forms. He is consistent, he's tough, he got
some run support last night. And the lead of the
whole thing is not just how good Hunter Brown is.
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We knew that, and it's becoming more and more apparent
dominant that he's also as mentally tough as there is
on that pitching staff. If I mean that, that's what
you want from your guy out front. But the whole
thing is forced Whitley last night to be able to
come in and do what he did and go two scoreless,
strike out a couple nobody touched first base with a hit,
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I mean no hits, no runs, Well they get two hits.
The whole time both off Hunter Brown, I believe hit
two hits shut out between the two of them. But
talk about a road back to to trying to be
that guy, right and it's just we don't talk and
I mean we've talked a lot about him early on
and then he got lost in the shuffle. But for
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him to come in that that's an arm that if
that is consistent with what we saw last night, you're
this is that adds tremendous. With mccullors coming back soon,
you hope being Gusto back in the bullpen or if
you need him a hell, who the hell knows what
it appears for us what he's going to be a
bullpen guy forever, right, But you never know how how
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that made long relief gave you to last night, Right,
So that was impressive. They now people, let's not I know,
the first thought is gonna that descends has got to
be your starting first base and every day, slow down,
slow down. You guys know that's not gonna happen right now.
I mean, I get it comes in, you know, and
plays first base and place a Christian Walker. I get
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all that, but let's it's a game. Let Christian Walker
get rolling because all it'll do is help the depth
of this team obviously in the production. If Walker's who
we believed he was coming here, and then descends those
ability to move around and do just what he did,
come in and spots start and drive in, drive in
runs and take care of your business. Hit a couple
what doubles. I think last night he uh, it was
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impressive and Hunter Brown from the get go was just
dominant the whole game, struck out nine, walked one. He
is becoming if this at this ascent, if the Astros
continued to be a good team and stay solid around him,
I don't see how this guy's not a cy Young
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Award winner or at least in that hunt.
Speaker 6 (04:17):
Every year he's been unreal. I mean his era coming
into the game last night I think was an even too.
Now it's a one to one at six for Brown
this season, and I mean it's on a string for
him right now, Sean, I mean it is, Hey, here
comes ninety eight, good luck.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
This time last year we were asking what the hell
is wrong with Hunter Brown? Something was wrong? What was
his health? Was it is a mechanical flaw? Did we
overrate him? Are we ever even gonna get this guy
right or is it just gonna be? Is this guy
a middle relief guy? And forget it, you got skipped
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in the rotation. We also the question I felt we
were one horrible start away from going to triple A,
honest to guy. That's how it felt last year, sitting
in this very chair. And then all of a sudden
it switched. I remember Monday, we had Steve Sparks on
while this was going, and he was a big focus
on what is wrong and how does he fix it?
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And Steve Sparks said, take the inner part of the plate,
make sure that you're not afraid to throw it, you know,
attack on the inner half of the plate and push
people off that, which will make everything else better, especially
with his overpowering stuff when he's going somehow, some way,
it's all turned out that he's attacking the inside part
of the plate. And Hunter Brown from that day forward
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was a difference and whether he heard Steve or whether
they talked about it, or whether it had been in
the mix, and it just he applied it whatever it was.
He qulit, allow that half the plate to be the hitters,
and took care of the entire plate right in out, up,
down all of it, and now look the guy at
times feels like he's unhittable. I believe if you'd have
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pitched him the last two had a he would have
a complete game shutout. I think he was that good
last one. But and then Whitley comes in does his thing.
Speaker 7 (06:06):
I was.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
I'm I'm impressed, so impressed with Hunter Brown and this
regardless of what happens. I tweeted this last night, regardless
of what happens with Fromber, and it goes and gets
paid big money because Fromber once again two days ago
or you know, was it Sunday? We saw the Fromber
even though they lost, that was solid successful Fromber. Who
is going to be the next start that I think
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that's what we got to get out of it. We
know who he's going to I think I know who
Hunter Brown is going to be most every start, regardless
of what happens, even if Fromer comes back. Your opening
season started in twenty six. As we said, it's going
to be Hunter Brown and he is your ace now.
And we can say and they'll I understand. When you're
part of the organization, you got to say all the
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right things as a manager, as a general manager, as
a coach, as a player, I can tell you this
that if it gets too and somehow that stuff will
find you a single limit Nation game. We've talked about this.
With everybody rested, there is absolutely no way on God's
green Earth as Hunter Brown not your starter. If if
your season depends on it and everybody's rested, he's the
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guy you run out there first, in my opinion. So
and that's it's less a because I think Fromber and
you heard John Smoltz is some far more expert at
than any of us are on here because he's lived it.
Who loves Fromber. But even he even loved Hunter Brown
more and he said he thinks Fromber's is, as you know,
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is as good as there is. He's one of those guys. Sure,
And so it's not really a dig on Fromber, although
we'd love the mental and to limit the the extremes
of good to bad somewhere in between where you can,
you know, pitch six innings, not pitch your best and
emotionally you're under control, still win a game, right because
he'll eat innings. We know that. But it's more of
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a compliment to Hunter Brown. And you want to talk
about a quantum leap. You don't go from where he
was at this time last year to this point now
where he is now where everybody in this league knows.
If you've got to face him, you're in for You
better strap it on because it is a long game, man,
And he's not afraid to challenge you. I think he's tough,
and I I baseball beware. They know how good he is.
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And the scary thing about is he's starting to figure
that out too. And when he does, fully you're looking
at you're looking at the now. I mean one of
those nasty give him the ball and you know what
you're going to get out of it type of pitchers.
And the quantum leap he made from last year this year,
just in that period of time, and to be that
dominant after can being skipped over for a start, that
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is that's doing your work. And it just tells me
his mental and a lot of guys would have wilted
after that start. They would have said, you know what,
I don't know what's going on. Yeah, maybe I just
don't have it. That's right, And now look he not
only has it, but if you need one game to win,
that's your guy.
Speaker 6 (08:55):
Well, Sean I mean, I think he continues doing what
he's doing right now. They All Star Game this year
is in Atlanta. There's no reason to think that it
would be the I guess it'd be Aaron Boone. That
Aaron Boone wouldn't think about naming Hunter Brown his All
Star starter.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
If it keeps up like this and the Astros can
go on a win streak, get then the hitting gives
him seven runs. When that guy's pitching, he not only
be the All Star Game and starter. The dude when
we have cy Young votes, he'll be getting some because
they will be in it and they score, they start
scoring four, five, six runs, you know, on a regular basis,
and get going. He'll be in the hunt. What's he
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right now? Three and one? Yeah? This is?
Speaker 6 (09:37):
And that one was just because his offense couldn't help him.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
Out exactly right, because he and he didn't he he's
this is now. I know he's not thinking about this.
We all, you know, in our job, we always do
the what ifs. But the dude's a stud man and
he's proven it. And when he goes out there, I
think they're at that comfortable point as a defense that
stay on guard, but be aware because he'll bore you.
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He'll boor you because they're not gonna be a whole
lot of contact when he's going good, right, So you've
got to stay on guard so that one hit into
the hole. You can backhand it if you're the third
baseman and go do your thing, but he is. It's
one of those you can get caught gawking your own
player because he's going good. You can. It's like I've
seen it in football, or I've been there where we're
having a game or another guy's having a game, like damn,
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you get caught watching the guy and saying, man elway
or watching Marino throw the ball. This is something, well,
you're trying to beat him. It's like, damn, I've done.
And I watched Sean Warren Moon go back and forth.
Both had like four hundred yards in the game or
more or whatever it was. It was just up and
down the field. I'm sitting there, you know, as Warren's
you know, Caddy on the sidelines, you know, be in
his backup at the time and talking in between series.
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Every time either one of them touched the ball was
like Dan got his, then Warren come back and got his.
It was like well, always watching two Hall of Famers
slinging around the lot. Yeah, it was easy to get
caught up in. Damn if you were an everyday play.
I mean, fortunately my position, I'm watching the quarterback play
to help my guy. But if you're somebody who wasn't
on the field and you're watching, it would have been
easy to say, well, can I get some popcorn? This
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is a pretty good show man. It's the same thing
when you're watching Hunter Brown. It's like, you know, what
is this settle in? Because if you're a defense he said,
there's a third base to say, gosh, dang, this guy's
pretty good. No, no, he's touching him. And then that's
the time they you know, some hits a slow roller right,
you know, down the third base line and gets a
double at out of it. Because you're like, you're so
intrigued with your guy, so you do have to guard
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against it. Because he's going so good right now, getting
placed people in scoring position. For the opponent, it's not
real easy for them right now. And he was sensational
last night.
Speaker 6 (11:36):
Well, I remember crash Davis, the wise philosopher, once said
that strikeouts are fascist. Well, I think that, you know,
not only Joe Espata, Hunter Brown, even the Astros defense,
I think they'd be for this type of fascism.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
All nine strikeouts, Yeah, well we'll take that any day
of the week. It can stop there. But with him, yeah,
and nine strikeouts, but made it. He's so efficient right
now with the way he's going, you know what I'm saying. Mechanically,
we obviously know where he got that from. But he's
he's now got the great stuff and a bulldog mentality,
and you got to be it's you got to bring
your best stuff when you're pitching and when you're when
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you're pitching against him, but also when you're hitting against him,
because it's a you're not going to look real, real
pretty most of the time.
Speaker 6 (12:16):
Now, the other side of that, he's a fielders dream
because he's not a dilly dally and obviously with the
pitch clock you can't do that now. But he's a
get the ball back, get the sign go. He's the
golfer who.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
Knows what shot he wants to hit and isn't standing
over the golf ball for thirty seconds on the PGA tour.
He's a guy like Ludwig Oberg or one of the
steps Straka or the the you know, over the weekend
it was in the final grouping. I'm losing my mind
who was and I watched every frigging shot. But those
guys who step up, they don't have They're not giving
fifteen minutes of Caddy talk. They to step up. They
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already know. By the time they step up, take one
waggle and let it rip. Right. That's him, give me
a ball, let's go and take care of your exactly.
He's a few just in the fans and everything because
he gets the ball. Let's go, play man, Patrick Cantlay,
he is not no doubt, Burley used to do stuff.
I mean, Burley works faster than anybody. And Mark Road,
I mean he'd strike guy out. We'll throw the ball
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around the infield by the time third baseman got it
back to him. Hell, he was in his wind up. Yeah, boom,
bull catch throw, let's go. I mean that guy would
have probably said, pitchclock, I'm winning one hundred more games.
You know, because that guy you want an hour and
forty minute game, hour and thirty minute game, he was
the guy to give it to you. And while Hunter
Brown may not be that urgent, but you're exactly right.
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He's he's great for a defensive player's dream because you know,
we're up going, We're not lounging around. Let's get it done.
And he throws strikes, which is a good thing, no
doubt about it. Astros.
Speaker 6 (13:41):
When last night seven to nothing Hunter Brown twenty four
consecutive scoreless innings, try that on for size. He's now
three and one on this season. We'll get into some
rockets too as the show goes along. He must win
tomorrow night against the Golden State Warriors in the NFL Draft,
where a couple of days away, Texans currently slated to
pick at twenty fifth overall. But one thing we mentioned
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about Hunter Brown, one thing we have not quite mentioned
that we'll get into here on the Sean Salisbury Show.
We're just getting going here someone three two one two
five seven ninety against someone three two one two five
seven ninety here on Sports Talk seven ninety.
Speaker 8 (14:16):
This is the Sean Salisbury Show. Salsbury, that's beautiful.
Speaker 6 (14:23):
Hey, who's that guy that where's the captain's hat? You know,
on the road because people know him here, they know
that there's a stick here. But if he goes over
to the Bay Area, wearing a captain's hat and the
Rockets win.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
You want him to you want him to look like
captain and Tanil, Yeah, like Tony Tanil's husband, Yeah, the captain.
Speaker 6 (14:38):
Yeah, then we're not gonna give them the stripes because
you got to earn those. I mean, we don't want
you know, our our our people that have been in
the navy, or anybody that has reached a certain rank
of captain on a on a skiff to get too
upset with them.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
But I think a lot of nautical stuff by you
this morning.
Speaker 7 (14:55):
Damn.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
Yeah, come on in hold me. Yeah, so Maddy likes
the yacht rock he does. I'm trying to picture him.
He'd probably look like Captain stubing with the with the
that captain and Tony Toil. Yeah, where he's like, you know,
somebody's laying on top of the piano while he's thinking
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he was it know that tramp a vamp in a
bit of that was a that's Sonny and Bono and
Sonny and Cher but whatever the you know the captain
is Neil, Tony Tanil. She'd lay on top of that
piano while I'd be singing, right yeah, or is it
Captain stubing that MAT's just running the love Boat.
Speaker 6 (15:31):
Yeah, he very much would be the captain of the
love Boat. Yeah, I'm with you on that.
Speaker 2 (15:35):
One was the love Boat. What's it? The little guy?
The plane, the plane, No, that would be Fantasy Fantasy Island.
There you go. See, I'm getting my seventies shows. You
called him the little guy. Yeah, I mean you were
politically correct, dude, yeah, small fellah. Yeah, yeah, that was
Fantasy Island. But yeah, the Captain's hat for Maddy Maddy ballgame.
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So so he loves I know, he'll go man a
low and stuff and diamond and stuff. Yeah. Yeah, I
like his style when it comes to that. There ain't
none wrong with that pretty much.
Speaker 6 (16:11):
If it's previous to nineteen eighty then it is a
favorite of Matt Thomas. And that's game shows and music alike.
So that's why we love him. Someone three two one,
two five seven ninety the number to get in on
the phone lines, Hunter Brown. You know, we we talked
about the possibilities for him all star wise, Sean. Here
was another thing that came to mind for me last night.
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I immediately started looking. And there's a good site you can
go to spo Track is the name of the site
where you can check on contract situations and how much
control do the Astros have over him? Well, he's got
three more years of arbitration and he is currently making
eight hundred and seven thousand dollars this.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
Season, most underpaid pitcher in baseball. Problem easily easily.
Speaker 6 (16:55):
I took it a step further that I know that
sometimes we kind of feel like there's a slow playing
when it comes to contracts here, and I feel like
that this organization turned over a new leaf last year
of saying kind of like what you guys talked about
yesterday with Steve Sparks, thirteen years of club control over
having a guy for one year, because we're not lost
on what Kyle Tucker's doing right now.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
But still, but you shouldn't be surprised. Sure, when the
guy's on the field, he's been a producer bad, right,
You knew this was good, and this is why you
traded him, because if he came back it was productive.
It's gonna cost you four hundred million or three eighty
or three fifty whatever it is, thirty five a million,
of course, so you got it while the getting was good.
He's raking he I mean, they're gonna love him there,
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quiet takes care of his business. I didn't expect anything more. Heck,
I'm actually pleased with the three guys when you knew
what Kyle Tucker was gonna do. I don't know if
we knew west Nesky was this good. I don't know
if we knew that Preadus. It feels like Preadus has
been a leader on the team for a few of
me just kind of fits right in. You're hitting him
in a two hole, you can hit him in it.
I mean, did dive if I'm not mistaken, he was
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in the three or four hole? Yeah, exactly, Yeah, that's right.
And uh so I don't and then you obviously Cam
Smith's a budding superstar. You can see just simple things
like getting thrown upstairs at ninety eight and fighting it
off and base hit the right field, I mean the
guy and then a couple homers. So yeah, I mean,
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I think both teams are winning with this trade. No shock,
Kyle TUCKI you were't gonna pay him, but I got
news for you. You're right, certain guys fall under the
You might want to get out in front of this thing.
He's becoming that guy, not just a guy. He is
that guy, and that's where I'm going. Is Dana Brown?
Speaker 6 (18:40):
I mean, just from his words and also just how
the Kyle excuse me, the Alex Bregman contract situation was handled.
I think that more or less it was just looked
at as, hey, look, we're not going to bit against ourselves.
We know that somebody is going to be a higher
bitterer than us. We're just we've got to move on.
We've got to be able to build up our team
this way. But if you're Dana Brown, now how you doing, buddy?
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It's Dana. Let's talk about Hunter and let's let's avoid
these three years of arbitration. Let's get the guy paid
right now, and let's get this thing locked up. And
if you're Hunter Brown, you look at it and he's,
what twenty five years old? You put us six years
twenty five per in front of him right now. I
think he takes it, because one question is does Scott
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Boris take it? I mean I get that, but I
mean I think if you're Hunter Brown, as opposed to
making twenty five six years plus.
Speaker 2 (19:30):
You said six years for a buck fifty. Yeah, oh,
going from eight hundred thousand to twenty five million year ago. Yeah,
that's a hell of a pay race. The one thing
you got to remember is who you're dealing with, because
if you go in right now and say six years
for a buck fifty, do you know what Scott Boris
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is gonna say. If that's your first offer, you're gonna
have to raise that you get. I'm talking about if
your boss, because what listen, it ain't like he's he
low balls anybody. You know, he's going to squeeze the
turn up for every ounce, knowing what he's got as
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a front line starter, knowing the premium placed on guys
like Connor Brown at his age, being that dominant, you
could actually hold the cards on this one and say
twenty five is not enough. Now to you and me,
it's like, come on, man, you get this. You you know,
eliminate three years of arbitration, You got a six year deal,
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You get your stud locked up. Quite frankly, by the
time he's thirty, it's a bargain price, man, even hell,
it maybe the second he sides it right in this
day and age. So I am with you. Oh, if
you're I don't know what the price is going to be.
If you're asking me, do you jump all over it. Absolutely,
you've got to treat Hunter Brown as the pitcher's version
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of Jordan Alvarez. That's what you have to do. And
I think you're at that point because you know, it's
one thing to keep losing people. You need what Jim
mister Crane has with had with Verlander, that that's just
the guy that this is. He's our guy, and he's
you know, when he came here, We're gonna pay him
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extra for whatever it takes to keep him here for
for the most part, until you know he's in his forties, right,
and get that production and they did, you know, whether
it's leave and come back, whether it's keep him here,
sign another twenty five million dollars, whatever it is. And
Hunter Brown's a younger version of that for the obvious
reasons that we all have talked about. But yeah, I
like I like the idea, and I love where you're
going with it. I just don't know what it's going
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to take. And I don't know if in Scott Boris's mind,
if twenty five million years fair. Now you and I
are looking like, dude, you make eight hundred grand a
year and you're the most underpaid page. I don't know
what schoobl makes. Do we know what he makes? Did
he get a new contract? Not yet? Okay, so he's
in he's on line to get paid, right, But I'm
just going through and thinking, Man, if if I'm if
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I'm if I'm Scott Moore, wouldn't you battle that a
little bit? I would? And if you're Dana Brown, you
don't want to let this continue on because you know
what the truth is. If this keeps up by the
end of the year, you won't be offered in twenty
five million a year. You'll have to offer him more
than that. Right, It's almost you can pay me now
or pay me later. Will you want to jump out
in front of it? I don't know if they think
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it's premature to get out the one thing they do,
they get after it, but they use the term we're
not going to rush anything injuries contracts, and there might
be a certain time when you might need to put
a little rush order on it, right, pay the extra
three dollars fee to get it here a little quicker.
But I just don't know. The guy is so dominant
right now, and every time he goes out there, he's
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added he's changed more money to his bank account.
Speaker 6 (22:45):
And that's where I was going with the turnover a
new leaf, because you didn't trade Kyle Tucker the last
few years.
Speaker 2 (22:50):
You would have let it ride.
Speaker 6 (22:51):
You would have said, one more run with this guy
and then we'll worry about it from there. But Dana Brown,
I think, looked at this organization and said, we can't
keep living this life.
Speaker 2 (22:59):
Guys, well, eventually you lose a player, a player after
a player after player. Core Wise, eventually you don't go
from restocking. You do have to rebuild. The way they're
working it though, by Cam Smith playing every day, de
Zenzo getting his you're thinking, okay, there's a future there.
Parades is a good player, you know, Christian Walker, although
in his thirties, hopefully has more game. You know, Pain
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is young. Al Twove is not going anywhere. Jordan Alvarez,
he's going to get it going. You look and you say, okay,
we don't have to. This isn't a rebuild. We're starting,
I mean with the mix of youth and then the
pitching staff. You know, if Whitley can continue this man,
what a blessing that is. You start to see Wizneski.
You start to see the gustos, You start to see
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the way I mean Fromber's still young, obviously, Hunter Brown,
you used to look around Arraghetty's young and the anticipation
of mccullor's coming back. There's a lot of good to
like with veterans and youth mix, and you do have
to bridge that gap. That's why they suffered with you
know when they lost these first round picks because of
the the sign stealing stuff set him back. But how
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quickly you can retool that part of it to be
able to retool your roster and use it wisely it's huge.
So yeah, the mix is there, and the question is
when do you decide the time. Now you have him
under control, that's fine, so that really that urgency is
not there. But the urgency to just secure it up
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so you can go focus on something else wouldn't be
a bad idea.
Speaker 6 (24:26):
I mean, we see it all the time in the NFL.
You lock up your franchise quarterback. This guy's a franchise pitcher.
So the further you get into arbitration, the lesser of
a chance you have to be able to have an
agreeable number with this guy. So I think you get
it done as soon as you can. Scooball, by the way,
has another year of arbitration, but he's making ten point
one this year.
Speaker 2 (24:46):
Think about that now, And rightfully, the guy's worth far
more than that. But then and a premium is a lefty, right,
you're that and he's underpaid. So now do the math. Yeah,
you think the guy here is underpaid. You could almost
triple that. Yeah, no question about it.
Speaker 1 (25:02):
Now.
Speaker 2 (25:03):
So the Astros, the ball is in your court right now.
Speaker 6 (25:06):
I mean, the Hunter Brown is absolutely worth it and
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Speaker 6 (27:23):
You mentioned something in the first segment that really stood
out to me because it reminds me of this time
last year and the Astros. At this time last year, Boy,
we were wondering, man, we've been hearing about the possible
end of this thing where it just you know, the
consecutive alcs, is the World series, all those things. It's
looking like it is a long way from being that
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here in twenty twenty four and then they eventually turned
it on. But a huge catalyst for that was you
were banged up pitching wise, You didn't have Verlanders for
some time. You had to count on guys that probably
you would have rather not counted on at that time,
like Spencer Ereg and he eventually showed you all right, hey,
there's some promise with this guy. But you mentioned it
(28:05):
with Forrest Whitley last night. I mean, you see a
guy that we've been hearing about for years, and the
problem with him has been the same deal as it's
been with Lance mccullus junior. It's been can you stay healthy?
Because we know the stuff is there. We know when
you get out there and have an opportunity you can produce.
It's just can you stay out there and do it?
And if you get that. Last night we've been talking
(28:25):
about the seventh inning. That guy's a hell of a
candidate for a seventh inning. If that's what you're getting,
no doubt it'd be ideal. Is of course he's got stuff.
Nobody would have waited this long if he couldn't, if
he wasn't a dynamic, you know, precise when he was
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healthy and going, you don't wait this long. I mean,
it feels like it's been twenty years. It really does.
Speaker 2 (28:53):
But and you think, if it feels like that for us,
imagine what it feels like for him. When's the last
time you saw him pitch back to beck innings. When's
the last time the guy went, what do you have?
Thirty some pitches? When's the last time in a major
league game he went back to back innings and threw
thirty some pitches? Well, last year he made his major
league debut. So never and when did he come into
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when when did he join the Astros organization?
Speaker 6 (29:16):
Well, I mean, it's funny you mentioned that because I
remember during spring training somebody asked him about, you know, hey,
who was an influence on you? He goes, yeah, I
remember in the spring training Garrett Cole, You're like, what what?
Speaker 9 (29:25):
Whoa?
Speaker 2 (29:26):
Whoa? Whoa?
Speaker 1 (29:26):
What?
Speaker 6 (29:27):
Like to your point, I mean, it seems like it
was forever in a lifetime ago.
Speaker 2 (29:31):
And here we are. So the significance of it from me,
it's got to be emotional for him, and then to
do what he did, it's got to feel good because
the question I here we go again, it's this oh
little weight. Oh it's a mental Oh it's arm trouble.
Oh it's he's too big. Oh he needs to get
you know, is he all the questions that we've went through,
(29:54):
mechanics and everything, he changed this, He got bigger, he
got stronger. Oh he trimmed down. I mean it's he's
injured again. It's been crazy for the guy. So if
you think we're impatient, imagine what that guy's been through.
Because no matter what anybody says, the athlete suffers more
than we do. I assure you, because you feel all
along there's no way in Hunter a Hunter Brown, there's
no way in force Whitley's thought process. Now you can't
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stay there long because if you let it faster, it'll
ruin you. But through all these struggles and everything he's
been through, there's had to be times. This is just
any of us. In all of us, I'm sure that
have been through some doesn't matter if it's in sports
and anything. You sat there in question, especially when it
comes in bunches. Right, you're like again again, am I
ever going to be able to achieve the goal I set?
Am I ever going to be able to be the
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best at this, Am I ever going to be able
to do this? And if you labor there, it'll become
a self fulfilling prophecy. So in order to have the
mental toughness, say I can still do it. I can
still do this. I'm gonna get do this injured. I'm
going to get to these questions. I'm going to get
through this because listen, he's been the most talked about
underproductive because of injuries. I don't mean it disrespectful. Prospect. Well,
(31:00):
since I've lived here, nobody's been talked about more and
wondered about more. And there's that how is he going
to turn out? You know, Tucker was for a while,
got his so yor I mean they were up. This
has been a long process where we still don't have
an answer. If last night's any indication for those two innings,
you got a pretty good answer, But there's no way
he didn't question himself along the way. But once again,
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you've got to rule that out and you got to
get back to work and say it's got to be
the chip on your shoulder to prove that people were
wrong about you that questioned you, and that the astros
were right about you. By sticking with you through all
this believing you could do what you did last night.
Say it doesn't. The small victories end up being big ones,
you know, the small blessings and small victories, and those
(31:44):
those dubs you got to take along in the way
they say, well is it that big? A yeah for
him and for the organization. You can't help but love
what you saw from him back to back innings. It's
been a minute. I'm sure he felt like he was
back in high school right for at least a minute,
and he was really good. So I'm anxious to see
where this goes. And if that's the springbook, just stay
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healthy so we can see him maximize whatever it is
he's he's got for them in the bullpen or what
their plans are for him.
Speaker 6 (32:12):
Well, I mean, and you mentioned Ryan Gusto, a guy
that's pitched himself into an opportunity because he stays. I mean,
it's even when you get Lance mcculler's junior back. You
got that guy back there that maybe you don't want
to stretch McCullers early on, so then you get him
for three four innings and then maybe you're able to
bridge with Gusto there until you're able to get him
kind of ramped up.
Speaker 2 (32:33):
What a luxury it is to have the guy, What
a luxury it is. It's almost like this, I mean,
a younger version, but of like Steve de Berg. I
remember what I played to Burg was a quarterback. He'd
be playing and play well and go to the like
when he was with my guy, Christian McCoy and Barry
Wood in Kansas City, like twenty two touchdowns and four
picks or three picks and the stretch play, you know,
(32:55):
I mean, did the and he'd say, well, Steve Anning
won the job. Then they draft for quarterback. Then he'd
be draft for a first round cornter and he produced.
There was a great player for like it felt like
thirty years. But then they'd move him to somewhere else
and then he'd go play here and go play and
although Whitley stayed here, I mean, Gusto has been a
starter and now bullpen. He gives you the ability to say, oh,
(33:18):
you know the Tyrod Taylor ability too. You know I'm saying,
you know, you know, a younger motive. Oh and go start.
Oh you need me for three starts? I can win
games for you. Oh I got to go to the bullpen.
The versatility. Oh I can do that too. Oh I'm
the starter and now I'm going to be or I'm
a bullpen. I'm coming in and we're waiting, and I
give you a couple of good starts. Oh, you're gonna
move me back because the first round, you know, you know,
(33:39):
I'm saying, well, somebody more published, somebody we've been wait lance,
but Colors to come back, is going to take that
gig and you just go back and do your next role.
What a what a blessing it is to have a
guy who's that versatile and all's force Whitley does is
maximize you and extend you and make everybody else fresher better.
And you can't help if you've been in the organization
(33:59):
since with since forst Whitley's been a part of this organization.
Those guys in there got to be ecstatic for him,
no doubt.
Speaker 6 (34:06):
And I mean able to go out there last night
absolutely take care of business. The loan guy to get
on base, a pass ball that Ianer Diaz unable to corral,
but it still was a strikeout, but then able to
get the very ext when.
Speaker 2 (34:18):
I said nobody got on base, I said, as far
as putting the ball in play right, it was. It
was unfortunate how they got on, but he still got
a strikeout out of it, and he didn't walk anybody
and give up any hits. It was impressive and nowhere
and runs obviously because it was a shutout.
Speaker 6 (34:30):
Yeah, you'd love to see that, guys shovin like that
on a regular basis, for sure. All right, coming up
a couple of different things that connect the Pope to baseball.
We'll discuss that here Shawn Salisbury Show, Sports Talk seven ninety.
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Speaker 6 (35:24):
There was a Rawlings Major League baseball out there with
his signature on it, his autograph on it. How much
would you be willing to fetch that?
Speaker 2 (35:32):
For now? I'm probably the wrong guy to ask, because, hey,
have some respitt I don't know what the pope on
a base I know what the pope on a baseball
does for me? I'm sure it does. I almost feel
sacrilegious making money off the Pope's name on a baseball.
(35:53):
That's fairyh Yeah, that's fair.
Speaker 6 (35:54):
It would be my first thought. Yeah, I mean you
have to answer to Saint Peter.
Speaker 2 (35:57):
You know.
Speaker 6 (35:58):
Hey, you know, by the way, Sean, you paid that money.
You know, we we kind of frown a couple years
a couple thousand years ago. I got a baseball signed
by Jesus Christ. Oh boy, that would that would fetch?
Oh yeah, now we're onto something. But can you imagine, Hey, hey.
Speaker 2 (36:15):
I'm going to sell the the Jesus Christ auto autographed baseball.
He didn't put a number on it just to signed it. Yeah,
I don't think you're selling that because it's like, well,
I don't know. I can't imagine on any scripture that
the Good Lord touched or anything, or any sermon that
(36:36):
he had, whatever was involved, that I would want to
sell it because it almost I can't imagine. Get up
there at the gates and hey, Sean lived a good life,
made a lot of mistakes, but a good heart. And
here you are one thing I have. What'd you get
for that? No, no, he already knows you can't fool
He already knows. It's a rhetorical question. Yeah, yeah, so
(36:58):
make sure you answer right, M seven hundred million. Was
it worth it? It was then, but it isn't now.
You know, what do you say? So my first thought is,
you know, and going back to it, and I don't
mean this disrespectful and being serious. We talk about the
Pope's name on a baseball. Christ's autograph has to be
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somewhere right, somewhere somewhere.
Speaker 6 (37:26):
Well, I mean there is a shroud of turin. It's
not necessarily an autograph.
Speaker 2 (37:29):
But you know, you know what I'm saying. I'm just
talking about you said, Hey, man, could you sign this
for me? They had to be somebody that admired him
or they know what the autograph. I know it sounds sacked, right,
you get what I'm saying. Imagine how valuable would be? Well,
I mean you founded on a you know, he's writing down,
you know, things to do that day. Well, technically he
has a book, the book, no doubt. I'm just talking
(37:52):
about the legit. Yeah, I get that book right, But
you know what I'm saying, like on a piece of
paper somewhere that was like a document that some guy
holding up a pockage of independence, but for the Christ,
the Good Lord, right exactly. Hey man, I got a
picture with you, can you sign it? You know what
I'm saying, Sean, they didn't take pictures.
Speaker 7 (38:08):
Man.
Speaker 2 (38:09):
Well the last supper who signed for who's signed for?
The bill comped? Yeah. See, it's like when you have everything,
they don't make you pay. That's it and the Good
Lord quite a quite a bit of bandwidth, right. But
getting back to your question, First of all, I wouldn't
(38:29):
pay anything for it, because now you said, Sean, you
can have this for one hundred dollars. That's legitimately the Pope.
This guy didn't want it, he willed it to you.
Of course, I'm not selling it, even if I if
it was worth one hundred million dollars and maybe the
sum it is, but I wouldn't sell it for the
simple reason I don't know if I could carry around
the well, Shawn, that's weak. Of course you sell it, well,
(38:51):
I'd probably donate it somewhere or you know, you keep
it in a safety deposit box. But I'm not looking
at it. So what good does that do? I don't
I'm not selling it. I would imagine it's worth a
p already penny depending on somebody's love or there with
Pope Francis of of their you know, everybody has a
favorite pope or somebody that they were a little more offen,
or somebody they went and saw. I would imagine for jd. Vance,
(39:12):
if that's the first time meeting the Pope. Yeah, that
that's unfortunately passed away a day later it now, right,
but that would be that would be where you're like, man,
this was special for me. I got to meet him
and quite frankly before he passed away. So I don't
know what. I'm not a big collector of that stuff, man,
I'm just not. I'm sure I got some. I mean
(39:32):
with this, guys who've autographed stuff they would given to
my kids sitting around. I've looked at him certain bats
and stuff and baseballs, and sure there were something. Pete
Rose and those guys who signed stuff for Willie Mays
on a golf scorecard. Yeah, I would imagine. But he said, well,
why'd you do it in the first pace? Well, I could,
and I was it was for my kids. But I
just keep it kind of tucked away. I don't know
(39:54):
what the value if somebody plays value on it, if
it does exist, I would imagine to be really cool
to have, But I couldn't sell it because I almost
feel like that'd be sacrilegious. So I don't know what
good it would do me, so I would I'm not
in the purchase ball for business thing.
Speaker 6 (40:07):
This seems like a low, you know, a purchasing price
sale price for this that, according to TMZ Sports, through
r R auction, it's expected to fetch at least fifteen
thousand dollars. A guy named Randy L. Kaplan, a government
affairs specialist in New York, is famous for getting world
leaders to sign baseball's when they are stepping out of
(40:29):
the un right now.
Speaker 2 (40:32):
Okay, see, I would have thought that the value of
it when you were it is worth five million bucks. Well,
you know, sign anymore? Right, So I would have thought
fifteen thousand. Now you're coming to me, Saint Jean, fifteen thousand,
and you're a collector. I don't think you're putting it
on your shelf next to whatever you're a bible, or
next to other autograph baseballs. And it says Pope Francis,
(40:55):
I would imagine that for fifteen put it this way,
I can guarantee you one thing, the value. If you
are a person that sells it, your value ain't going down.
Fifteen thousand dollars seems reasonable. Think about some of the
things you spend over the course of time of interest alone,
fifteen thousand bucks on it over the course of your life. Said,
what a waste that was?
Speaker 7 (41:11):
Right?
Speaker 2 (41:12):
Yeah, no, I would imagine. I'm not going to stay
in line to pay for a ball like that. But
if somebody said you got it, you're a collector, it
can sit on yourself. And that's Pope Francis. He's not
going to sign anymore. And especially if there's only a
couple of them signed or one. Yeah, I would imagine
you'd pay fifteen grand, but I'm not in the seller
business for it, so I just don't do that.
Speaker 6 (41:31):
Another thing, too, is with Pope France's death yesterday, people
thought for sure that Nick Costianos was going to Homer
and the Phillies played the Mets last night lost five
to four.
Speaker 2 (41:41):
He did not Homer.
Speaker 6 (41:42):
So I guess for unfortunate events happening that are followed
up by Nick nic Coostiano's leaving the yard, we finally
got off of that one. So maybe it's a ton
of respect for the Pope of just saying, hey, you know.
Speaker 2 (41:54):
What's your day? That's it? Yeah, there you go, so
taken away. That's a good point, man, good point. I
don't know. I would you want that ball? Would you
pay fifteen grand for it? If you could make let's
say you could make three payments at five thousand bucks,
would you do it?
Speaker 6 (42:06):
I still couldn't afford it. Yeah, let's say you could
afford it, Oh, if I could probably not. I mean
I think that probably something in more of the arena
of the pope, you know, a Rosary.
Speaker 2 (42:19):
Assigned Bible if But that seems sacrilegious assigned something to
do with his part of the country.
Speaker 6 (42:28):
You know, I don't think that gives out bulletins after Mass,
but if they gave out a bulletin or.
Speaker 2 (42:33):
You know, how you go you go to church, most
have a program of what's lined up for the day,
who's speaking, or what you're going to talk about. Sign
one of those. I guess it'll be fine to putting
a book of remembrance, but when it comes to guys
like that, you're not. I mean, you're talking about guys
that you feel walk and talk with the Lord. I'm
not selling the autograph. No, So better off for me
not to even get it. Because the temptation was so
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he said, dude, you got that autograph, I'll give you
eight million bucks for it. Well, I'm gonna hold off.
It'd be nice, but I'm gonna hold off. It's just
it's like it wouldn't sit well. I would be like, se,
are you sure that there's lightning's not gonna strike you?
You know, it just kind of feels weird to me.
I'm sure some could profit off it, but I'm not
profitent off religion.
Speaker 7 (43:13):
That's just not me.
Speaker 6 (43:15):
You're not wrong to feel that way, Cassidy Brandon. See
all right there, we'll get you all involved in the conversation.
Seven o'clock. How coming up next right here, Shawn Salisbury Show.
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good morning here on the Shawn Salisbury Show. What's going on?
Speaker 2 (44:31):
Hey, good morning guys, how you doing? Good?
Speaker 11 (44:33):
Good to hear from me.
Speaker 12 (44:35):
Hey, just on the vein of Pope Francis and the holiness.
I thought it was interesting twist, maybe a reverse of
all the gifts over the years. Generally, you know, if
you have a private audience with the pope, generally, you know,
sports stars and others will bring.
Speaker 11 (44:46):
Gifts to the Pope.
Speaker 12 (44:48):
And I just thought of a kind of a cool antidote,
a cool story I read in Playboy. Now, of course
I was reading the articles, not that not not of.
Speaker 2 (44:54):
Course, Yeah, yeah, I got Rube Bacon said same thing.
Speaker 12 (44:58):
Yeah, well back in the day when they actually had
photos in there. But it was a great interview by
Mik Piazza, and in there he has a private audience
with Pope John Paul the second and Piazza is Italian Catholic,
and he's winning in Lyne and he has a baseball
bat and he's there for about twenty minutes and as
he's really I mean he's there, he's realizing, you know,
like three months before the popes with Castro and time
in and you know, all these world leaders, and he
(45:20):
was almost embarrassed about you know what kind of he did,
and bringing a baseball bat, you know, is his poking
to take me seriously? And a priest he started lamenting
with the priest next to him, who outside an audience,
and the priest said, no, absolutely not. Be proud of
your trade and be proud of what you do, and
so he interviewed. Uh he was yet, you know, a
couple of minutes with Pope John the Second introduced himself,
gave him a baseball bat, and at the end Pope
(45:42):
John said that Mike Piazza the baseball player. So I
thought that was a cool ending, a cool story. Be
proud of what you do, no matter who your audience was.
But you guys are talking about autographic baseballs and how
much did it be worth? And it'd be interesting to
know what happened to Mike Piazza's bat, And you know,
MESSI gave Pope Francis a jersey and all over years.
So anyway, it's just kind of reversed and a good story,
(46:03):
but good good topic.
Speaker 2 (46:05):
Thanks guys, great to hear from your brother, appreciate it.
Good to talk to you, Thanks man, great stuff. And
you know what, it's one thing to get something from
the Pope. Now, if the Pope asked you for something,
now that's pretty cool. Huh Mike Piazza bat him, I
think he said, did he say a Messier jersey? Yeah,
I'm messy. Yeah, oh, Lionel Messi. I thought I was
gonna say, well, because Mark Messi won his back in
(46:25):
the day when Messi, when Messier won his Stanley Cup
with the Rangers. Remember it was in the mid nineties
and ninety four maybe ninety three ninety four, when Messier
won the I thought, oh, he said messy, Lionel Messi,
I thought he. I thought, well, why not, why not
give your hockey sweater your mess as well? There you go,
maybe you know, maybe that's where it kind of there
(46:45):
you go. So but yeah, great call, great point by Cassidy.
What a U and something I'm sure you take with
you forever that you never forget when you know someone
that holy is engaged in making sure you're proud of
whatever it is you do. I love it. Well remember
a message.
Speaker 6 (47:00):
I mean you were talking during the break of Michigan
football when Harball was there. He took them overseas and
they got to go to the Vatican, and I remembered
that there was the photo of him giving like a
Michigan football jersey and a helmet, you know, the famous
Michigan helmet to the Poulverine helmet and the Pope kind
of looking at it and being like, the hell is
this like.
Speaker 2 (47:19):
Having for you to keep? You're a Michigan fan, now,
that's it. Yeah, no doubt. Yeah. I can't imagine being
in college and at that point in time back when
we played, when you you know, you couldn't do that stuff.
Were you. I mean to raise but you know what
I'm saying, recruiting advantage whatever they called this stuff. Now,
can you imagine you're a Michigan All of a sudden,
the coach says, Hey, we're gonna have a fun little
team building thing. Yeah, what are we doing, coach? We're
(47:41):
heading to Rome. We're going to the Vatican. Excuse me? Yeah,
what a great That's a nice little summer trip to
go before camp starts. Huh m hmm. Yeah, what a thrill.
So to be able to touch it. And you know
when I say touch it, touch Rome or you know,
Jack del Real called in yesterday and he's sitting there
stair and he just got out of the loop and
was staring at the Eiffel Tower yesterday and I'm thinking, because
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he's coaching in Europe and stuff now and they can
you know what, walk around having coffee, you're staring at
the louver and we're we're right here dealing with the
raid and the wind it when it hit yesterday. So yeah,
I'm I'm really into like the Holy Ground stuff, like
you know, depending on like I understand how moving it
(48:24):
must be to go to Jerusalem, right or how I
mean I don't understand what I'm saying to hearing from
people who have right the like the transformation. Sometimes it
can take place when you see it, and I would
imagine being around the pope or in one of those
settings would be quite moving, especially if you know you're
God fearing person or if the if the you know,
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the pope and the religion has been part of your
life forever. Yeah, well I got to go.
Speaker 6 (48:49):
I got you I have not and you know who
was a huge part to think for me getting to go.
Speaker 2 (48:55):
Mattress Mac. That's it. There's a lot of people in
this town that have to when they say, you know,
I got to think Mattress Mac comes out of their
mouth first, because he's done that to a lot of
people in different ways, in shapes and forms. It's a
good thing.
Speaker 6 (49:06):
So when I was in school at Saint Thomas, he
had paid for four kids and a faculty member from
every school in the diocese to get to go to
Rome on a pilgrimage. And initially we were supposed to
go in the fall, but then nine to eleven happened,
so they decided, hey, maybe world travel for kids is
not a good idea right now, or wait for that matter,
right right right, So then we got to go that
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spring and we got to have Mass there at Saint
Peter's Basilica and Bishop Fiorenza celebrated the mass. Initially, I
believe we were supposed to get an audience with the Pope,
but JP two, John Paul the Second was at his retreat.
Speaker 2 (49:43):
Now can you imagine him, He's the one who led
that spiritual meeting. If she was the one standing up
front and the teacher that day, the Pope, No, you'd
remember everywhere you think, yeah, yeah, no doubt. Yeah, I
imagine that was one of your great experiences. That was awesome, awesome.
Shout out Mattress Mack.
Speaker 6 (50:01):
Absolutely, you're the man, always always looking to shout that
guy out.
Speaker 2 (50:04):
Brandon.
Speaker 6 (50:05):
What's up, buddy, how you doing, Brandon, Good morning.
Speaker 1 (50:08):
Good morning, welcome back.
Speaker 2 (50:10):
Thanks Bud. I appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (50:14):
Where did you go yesterday.
Speaker 2 (50:16):
Oh, I was in New Mexico with family, a lot of.
Speaker 1 (50:18):
Fun as the for Easter holidays.
Speaker 2 (50:22):
Yeah, yeah, it was.
Speaker 6 (50:24):
Speaking of pilgrimages, we actually even made a pilgrimage on
Good Friday.
Speaker 2 (50:27):
I'll tell you all about that later. Yeah, what do you
got on these astros?
Speaker 1 (50:34):
Good?
Speaker 11 (50:35):
What do you won that we did?
Speaker 2 (50:37):
How about Hunter Brown? Huh?
Speaker 1 (50:39):
Good? He he walked I think he walked Boyer and
he walked Glady and it's not it was. It was good,
but it was he was fun.
Speaker 2 (50:55):
Yeah, he was. He was more than fun.
Speaker 6 (50:57):
Nine strikeouts, one walk, just a couple of It's one
of those little uh you know, into the bat single
by Springer. But now he was. He was pretty awesome.
That's that's how we want that team to play, right Brandon, Yep,
for sure you're.
Speaker 11 (51:12):
Going there.
Speaker 7 (51:14):
The man.
Speaker 6 (51:15):
Yeah, dude, Yeah, we'll get into that a little bit
later on that that. That was definitely not fun to
watch on Sunday, Brandon for sure.
Speaker 7 (51:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (51:25):
Who who's pitching today? Is it Blanco against?
Speaker 2 (51:30):
Uh?
Speaker 6 (51:31):
Today? It is Renel Blanco. You're not wrong, it is
Renel Blanco.
Speaker 1 (51:37):
How are you playing Wednesday?
Speaker 2 (51:39):
Yeah, they're gonna play Wednesday.
Speaker 6 (51:40):
Uh, the Uh, it's a little bit of an earlier
start tomorrow, it's six forty tomorrow, but tonight the normal
start time.
Speaker 1 (51:49):
Lucky eyes, I can go a bit ear.
Speaker 6 (51:52):
There, you go, Yeah, go go a little bit early,
enjoy yourself and pull him through to all win.
Speaker 2 (51:57):
Let's let's win two in a row again, Brandon.
Speaker 1 (52:01):
Yeah, not like Sunday when we try some mons then.
Speaker 2 (52:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (52:10):
Yeah, Now it's much better to score seven than just two.
That's that's for sure. Good to hear from your Brandon.
You got it, buddy, Yeah, that's much much better this
time around. You mentioned, uh, what was it Steve Sparks earlier?
How about that on Sunday Night Baseball getting a nice
little shout out from the National crew.
Speaker 2 (52:30):
What was at ravi?
Speaker 7 (52:33):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (52:33):
Edward?
Speaker 6 (52:37):
Yeah, they showed him in there, and I was like,
look at Sparky. Happy to see that for him. Yeah,
so always love that. All right, coming up, if you
get eaten by this animal, you're you're probably dead. Well
there's not only that, but science will tell you you're
an idiot. We'll talk about that right here. Sean Salisbury Show, The.
Speaker 2 (52:58):
Shawn Salisbury continues in.
Speaker 11 (53:01):
Need to no No, Now, you know.
Speaker 2 (53:08):
All right, Sean, what are you hearing out there now?
Speaker 10 (53:11):
The Salisbury stakeouts, Salisbury's takeout on the.
Speaker 2 (53:16):
Sean Salisbury Show. It is Sean Salisbury Show.
Speaker 6 (53:23):
Sports Sox seven ninety Astros seven to nothing winners last
night against the Blue Jays, Rockets Game two Western Conference
Playoffs against the Warriors tomorrow night. They're down one to
zero in the series and the NFL Draft starts Thursday.
Texans set to pick twenty fifth overall. All Right, Sean,
Alligator attacks, I mean, these are animals we have to
(53:43):
worry about in this area of the country because I mean,
maybe it's you know, you're near a by or you're
on a golf course set's near one of those said waterways,
and you'll have the signs out there to say beware
of alligator. Well, did you know that if you get
attacked by one that researchers in a published study that
(54:05):
is in a journal called a Human Wildlife Interactions, which
I'm pretty interested to read that now that I know
that something like this exists, found that ninety six percent
of recorded alligator attacks involved either a human who was
not paying attention to their surroundings or did something risky
that prompted the attack.
Speaker 2 (54:25):
I e.
Speaker 6 (54:26):
Scientists are telling you in this journal that if you
get attacked by an alligator, guess what, buddy, it's your fault.
Speaker 2 (54:34):
Yeah, I don't understand, Like you see it on the
golf course a lot, or you see it in you know,
on videos and viral videos. Is what kind of idiot
do you have to be? Unless you're an alligator? You
know they do do it to move alligators back in,
or say, unless you're experienced and how to trap them
and do the things to release them where they belong, right,
(54:57):
not kill them, release them to where they can live
their life. How stupid do you got to be to
go toy with one like that? And they're quicker than
hell too. I don't know how quick hell is, but
I would imagine you're trying to go through there as
quick as you can if it's hot. Yeah, you don't
want you don't want to stick and stay, that's right.
I just don't know the last thing I'm doing. You know,
(55:19):
it's the same as like, oh, there's a pile of
rattler snakes, why don't you just go sit down and
carry on a meal and eat in front of them?
I mean, know, you can't be that dumb, right, Well,
it's like, what was it the cobras we were talking
about that, Yeah, training cobras. Yeah, at some point you
got to actually get in there and train the cobra. Well, now,
I know you may have the big old suit on
in case they bite you. You get to a point where, okay,
I got them controlled. And you're in there with fifty
(55:40):
of them, and you know, you've seen the videos and
the guys sitting there training like and you're hitting them.
You're you're you're toying them with a stick, you know,
like as you're that's how you guide them. I'm thinking,
what happens one of them has had a bad day,
that's it. It only takes one, that's right. It takes
one of them just to say the hell with this?
All right, I'm not your dancing, That's exactly right. I'm
not you're not that's exactly right. So it's the same
(56:01):
thing here, man, I don't know if you do it now.
I think it's intriguing. I like to look and when
you see him, like you know, if you've played golf
in Florida or and you see him hell over by
my house there there they're sitting in they must be.
They got him in there obviously to keep the place
clean and stuff obviously, right, and they put him in
there on purpose in the little man made legs. But
(56:21):
you start to look around. I'll love to observe from
a distance, but I'm not getting close. Get a toy
with it with a five iron and like tap it
because they're quicker. Okay, And you know what, there's ways
that I can I can control not having half my
arm chomped off. I think I'll probably do it. And
these guys who toy with them on the golf course,
(56:42):
you know we're actually invading their space. So let's let's
make sure we stay away. Yeah, there's things I'm not
afraid of much, but when it I mean, I'm probably
pretty stupid when it comes out. But I'm never toying
with snakes, or with a brown bear, or or with
an alligator. And like you talking about the I'm not
going up and like tapping him on his back when
(57:02):
I got a five arm because he's close to me
on the golf course.
Speaker 3 (57:05):
No.
Speaker 2 (57:06):
Right, there's there's smarter things to do that ain't one
of them. There is a most recent ring doorbell? Then
will they not bother you if you don't bother them,
Is that basically would scientist?
Speaker 6 (57:16):
Yeah, that's that's that's a good way to go. But
there's a ring doorbell video that's floating out there right now.
A couple of alligators I think this was in Florida.
I probably was after a storm or something made their
way up to the house. Yeah, and that not only
made its way up to the house, but one of
the alligators actually got up and rang the ringing doorbell
and was like kind of like in like the camera
(57:37):
view for a second, then went back down to the
ground and was walking around, looked inside the window. Two
of probably thinking like, way too human life. This seems
like it's got food in there. Yeah, you know, let's
get these people out of here, and let's let's take
over the house.
Speaker 2 (57:53):
As much as I'd like to invite you in for
a meal, it's probably not gonna happen. No, probably probably
not gonna happen. But the fact that they know they
know how to rig a doorbell and look into your window,
that ain't the first time it's happened.
Speaker 6 (58:05):
Let's put it that way. They're walking familiar, Yes, they're
walking dinosaurs. There's a reason why these things. Like everybody
looks to roaches as being the ones that stick around,
which god man, roach bastards hate those things. But anyway, alligators,
there's a reason why they They were the ones that
stuck around, and t Rex and everybody else went by bye.
Speaker 2 (58:22):
And much respect to them. But you talk about stuff
that you can't get rid of, have you ever, Like
like you'll have a mosquito and you'll grab it and
you'll hit it and you think it's done yep, and
all of a sudden you can't kill them, and then
they all of a sudden pop up and fly away again.
It's like, dude, I just whacked you with a towel,
Oh okay, and yeah, yeah, I whacked you with a machete. Yeah,
(58:43):
I pitch you with a baseball battle of you know what?
You just you know, you try to get ones flying
around your house, right, but they get in and it's like,
I couldn't hit you any harder with it? How did
you get up and fly away? Resilience? Man, I'm not
I can mess with a with a mosquito. I am
messing with no alligator.
Speaker 6 (59:00):
I was gonna say, I I I see a creepy
Crawley start going across the floor right there the shoe
comes out.
Speaker 2 (59:06):
Ye see, I'm the guy like, like, would you really
make sure you like if you like, for instance, let's
say you had a a caterpillar in your house. You're
gonna kill her, You're gonna put it outside.
Speaker 6 (59:17):
Probably just grab like a sheet of paper, so flinging
out in the York lady bug right, which is good.
Speaker 2 (59:23):
Yeah, wish there you go. Okay, just making sure if
I can preserve it. I know that sounds cheesy, but
I'm one of those guys like, now you're a mosquito
or a fly, like a spiders, it got to go, bud. Yeah.
Speaker 6 (59:36):
The funniest thing is is roaches were the ones that
for me for for the longest time, and they have
here in certain parts of you they haven't here boy,
and they're big, dude. They got they got their own
central nervous system about three different parts of their body.
Every single year, I kill like the first one of spring.
I'm like, these things get larger and they're gonna be
the size of small dogs.
Speaker 2 (59:55):
Yeah, don't want to that. Somebody's gonna be walking in
on a leash. Gross. Yeah, they're the worst. Just discussed.
Speaker 6 (01:00:03):
And the funny thing is, you know they tell you, oh,
you know, they're they're relatively harmless. I'm like, well, he
just said relatively, so there's still some wiggle room right there.
Speaker 2 (01:00:11):
Yeah, but then there's something dirty about having one run
across your chest while you're asleep. Yeah, stay out of
the crib. Oh god, stay out of the crib. No,
like stay clean, So they stay away.
Speaker 6 (01:00:25):
Well, it's not only that, it's also you know, you've
got a group of people over one runs by because
the big ones, you know, the exterminators will tell you, hey, look,
there's not much you can do about that.
Speaker 2 (01:00:35):
Now.
Speaker 6 (01:00:35):
I once lived in an apartment and I thought that
it was all right, there's something we're not doing right,
and the exterminators said, no, it's probably one of your neighbors. Honestly,
he goes, that's how these happen. And it was the
small ones that we had. Yeah, and and not good.
But then I remembered once I remembered those lines because
I got some of their mail and I went and
dropped it off, and I didn't see inside too much,
(01:00:58):
but I saw enough and smelled enough, I'll see to
realize that. I was like, yeah, the exterminator wasn't wrong.
Speaker 2 (01:01:04):
There is no Yeah, there's normals. Whence when somebody's a
little bit dirtier, it'll flow over to you. Yeah, get
rid of the big ass probm you left on the ground.
They get big enough to eat the burger themselves. Plait
it up. Okay, I mean it.
Speaker 6 (01:01:18):
And it's almost kind of to a point right there
where it's twofold.
Speaker 2 (01:01:21):
It's number one.
Speaker 6 (01:01:22):
Do I go to the leasing office and be like, hey, look,
I'm not telling you how to tell people how to
live their lives, but the way that they're living their
life is starting to affect me. And then the other
one is, well, then you know, that's the beauty of
not having to rent anymore, because if it happens to you,
well then that's on you. Yeah, you're your fault and
you got to fix it. You don't have to worry
about parking spaces anything else.
Speaker 2 (01:01:42):
But the key is, yeah, don't don't antagonize alligators. Is
the moral of the story. Ye know where you are?
Know where you are? What is uh?
Speaker 6 (01:01:50):
What does he may you doka say? KYP know your personnel?
That's exactly You're on the golf course like I had
one a few years ago. Know your strengths and weaknesses,
and one of your strengths isn't going to be out
running one of the he's yeah, yeah, you know, Tommy
Teeth has four legs. I got two, no thanks. Once
playing golf at Sunset Grove Country Club in uh In, Orange, Texas,
(01:02:12):
and on the eighteenth hold, they have a sign that
says be where a valigator. Well, my ball was probably
about fifteen yards from the water, and I saw in
front of me. What I thought was like, you know
how like they'll dig irrigation ditches to put in like
a sprinkler system or something like that.
Speaker 2 (01:02:28):
That's what I thought it was.
Speaker 6 (01:02:30):
Right before I was about to address that, my dad said, hey,
look in front of you, and sure enough turned it
right around looking at me, and I said, you know
what this ball we call that, pop it up, hit it,
you know, grab it. I'm going to take a drop
on the other side. Clean place. Yeah, find another spot. Yeah, yeah,
I was gonna say. I was not going to let
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the Florida Gator mascot get after me that day because
we were going with an LSU game that night.
Speaker 2 (01:02:55):
So I think he knew. I think he knew what
what was a gator bait or I didn't want to Yeah,
there you go.
Speaker 6 (01:03:01):
Yeah, so I decided to be neither at that time. So, uh,
sometimes it's best to just go ahead and take the drop.
On the other side, take the penalty, lose a limb.
You're not getting paid to win, to be your dad
in golf. Maybe a little slut side bit, but it's
worth keeping your forearm. I was gonna say, I was
gonna say, you can play the next half. Yeah, I
don't want to be able to do that. I don't
want to turn into chubbs say so. Moral of the
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story here, don't be an idiot. And if you do
get attacked by nalligator, well, science will tell you you
are an your fault.
Speaker 2 (01:03:28):
That's it. That's it for sure.
Speaker 6 (01:03:30):
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fifth overall. But is there a really loud voice in
the building now when it comes to who they could
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Speaker 6 (01:05:43):
For the players as workouts getting underway over there at
NRG Stadium. It sounds like pretty much one hundred percent attendance.
Didn't know of anybody that wasn't there. But you had
a lot of different people at the podium talking and
as usually the case, I mean, you want to ask
about the guys that you add, you want to ask
about the guys that you lost, you want to ask
(01:06:03):
about you know, who are you really excited to see
developed this year? All of those different types of things.
But then also the draft questions will start flowing and
the Texans a lot of people are pretty convinced it
is going to be offensive line. I'm one of those.
I think most of us are in that same category.
It's just who is that going to be? But we're
(01:06:24):
going to start off first with Will Anderson Junior. I
think we can agree he's pretty well thought of in
that building now, right, He's played well, He's a guy
that's kind of thought of as being a team leader,
all of these different things. Well, one of his former
Alabama teammates is somebody that the Texans could possibly be
looking at, and who knows, if you believe what Adam
Schefter said, could be aggressive to move up and maybe
(01:06:44):
that's what you would have to do to get Tyler Booker.
But Anderson asked about Booker yesterday, and let's just say
a glowing endorsement flowed from the Texans star pass rusher.
Speaker 13 (01:06:57):
I think he has all the attributes you need to
play offensive line position. He's a maler, he loves to
finish the blocks on his leadership, stills, his mentality. He
wants to be the best, and he's really hard on himself.
And you know, I'm kind of the same way. And
that's what builds you up, that's what makes you know
who you are. And he has all those things, man,
And I can't say enough good things about him.
Speaker 7 (01:07:17):
Man.
Speaker 13 (01:07:17):
And wherever you end up, he's gonna change that team,
change that program, and change the offensive line for sure.
Speaker 6 (01:07:23):
Change the offensive line for sure. Sean, a few weeks ago,
when Tamiko orians was at the league meetings, what did
he talk about with the offensive line? That a huge
reason why the Laramie Tunsel trade was made and some
of the moves were made. Well, we've got to change
the way we do business around with that group because
clearly what we've been doing had not been working.
Speaker 2 (01:07:41):
And a guy who knows.
Speaker 6 (01:07:42):
Him well, Will Anderson Junior speaking him up and saying, hey,
that's a guy that can come in here and change
some things.
Speaker 2 (01:07:48):
Yep.
Speaker 6 (01:07:49):
That feels like to me that if Nick Cassiio, Hey,
we're thinking of Booker and if he's anywhere around there,
then we're thinking of going that they would listen to
Will Anderson and say, this guy knows what winning football
looks like and he's proven it here and he also
played with the guy, so we know that he knows
what that guy brings.
Speaker 2 (01:08:07):
Yeah, and you And the truth is, the scouts and
everybody will know what kind of player he is. I mean,
if they've done their due diligence. I don't need Will
Anderson to tell me he's a player. If I'm scouting him,
it's nice to hear. It's the other stuff. What kind
of guys here in the locker room as a teammate
when you're winning, when you're losing, the little things that
the guys that only the fellas that are hanging around
him all the time can see, is he you know?
(01:08:28):
I always want to know is a guy just a
complain or where he constantly complaining? You know, one of
those guys I'd want to know that, especially if I'm
investing a first round picking to somebody. So but when
Will Anderson's given him that kind of praise, I mean
even saying to the point where he'll change the offensive
line no matter where he goes that that that means
the guys is a magnet towards and a leader by
(01:08:50):
just doing the right thing right and playing hard, which
is obvious you should, but playing smart and being a
good football player and a great leader. And so if
that's what you get up front, and if there's a
bit of an ass him, I'd want to know that too.
If there is, I guess i'd see it in his play.
So my question is worse he projected to go.
Speaker 6 (01:09:08):
Jonathan Jones, one of the most recent mock drafts, I
had said seventeen to the Cincinnati Bengals.
Speaker 2 (01:09:14):
I was going to say in the mid teens, jumping
up would be in the thirteen to twelve range. Fallen
would be in the eighteen to twenty twenty one range. Right,
And now you're starting to tease the Texans, right. I
think in order to get him, you're going to have
to move. And you watch him play. I mean, we've
all seen him play and we watched the program. He's
(01:09:35):
a hell of a player and a pretty dominant player,
So I don't think you're going to be I don't
think you can sit there and get him. If you're
going to get the lineman you want, especially if he's
on the exterior, meaning a tackle, you're probably going to
have to move up. Now. The question is, like a
guy like Gray's Abel, who's an interior linement at North
Dakosta State, good football player is the small school or
(01:09:57):
which most people don't care about.
Speaker 7 (01:09:59):
Now.
Speaker 2 (01:09:59):
I know we've talked about it. Hey, if all things
being equal, I want the gu who played against Alabama
and LSU then played against maybe smaller schools, just because
if everything's equal. But I don't know if you're going
to get that. That's why the wide receiver continues to
loom with me in that position, because if you're going
to stay there, the question for me has to be, Okay,
will the best lineman you want be available? And then
(01:10:21):
you have to decide is the fifth or sixth or
seventh best lignement better than the third or fourth receiver? Right,
that's for you, and that's you got to decide, because
I'll be absolutely shocked. Now on their board they say
they don't draft due to need, it's best player available.
I'll be surprised if they stay there and draft the
(01:10:43):
defensive player. Now, if the defensive player is their best
player available and they live by what they say, then
I guess you pull that trigger. I just can't fathom
that they're not staying on the offensive side of the
ball with that first pick, whether it's a move up
and get or whether it's to stay there and grab alignment.
That maybe not be your top one, but you can
(01:11:03):
still get a good one. The question is what's your desire.
What's the difference between the third guard and the first
guard in your mind? I'm talking about in their value,
not mine and yours and theirs, because we don't get
to make the pick. Is the evaluation the one between
one and three. If I get the third gap twenty five,
I'm just as good as the guy at fifteen who
got taken first as an offensive guard or whoever, or
on the tackle thing you got. You've got to start
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to weigh what's the gap between the two and is
the gap between the third receiver and the first receiver
closer than the fifth lineman in the first lineman. Those
are things you've got to go through, and then who's
going to impact your team, not only immediately but over
the next three or five years and parlaying it out,
what kind of player will he be then as opposed
to just now, has he maxed his potential? Have we
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seen his best football? I think it's one of those
two positions, meaning now when you say two, it's really
three tackle guard, interior lineman, a perimeter offensive lineman that's
on a tackle spot, or a wide receiver slot tighten
that group. I think we all have our desires and
guys that are close to camp miss and you know,
there's a couple of guys to me. I don't know
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if it guarantee exists in sports, but like in this draft,
how does and I've said this, how does Travis Hunter
not be? How does he miss? How does he? How
does he miss? And Todd mcshah and I were talking
on another show I do and I said. He said,
the seven or eight guys, if you're just talking best
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football players, would go before a Shador Sanders or at
Jackson Dart that that obviously cam Ward's going to be
at the top of that list, he said, But and
he mentioned, like a guy like Ashton Genty who was
running back, we shy away from him high, but he
said every general manager he's talked to to a man
said the dudes different. So my point is, you know
that about a guy like that, right? Best of ay,
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you know that about a guy that is is a
guy that you think you can go to the guarantees
and draft and see that's what I like Marvin Harrison.
I don't see how Marvin Harrison missed. I mean, how
you could ever miss when you drafted him? Right when
Nelson came out, I was like, how do you miss? Now?
I said the same and those two I picked. I
said the same thing about Pitts from Florida and so far,
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well potential, it hasn't hit. I looked at him, I said,
how does this guy not? How do you miss with
him in this draft? Who is that guy? Is it? Gent?
Who's like You're like, I don't know how he's not
even if he's average, he feels like he's going to
be a really good player. And then you've got to
ask yourself. For you it's not only who has the
potential to be the best, but what's the risk with
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the reward? You know, there's a lot of guys big potential,
but there's also risks that follow them with my offensive
line at twenty five, I don't need a risk. It's
got to be a guy plug in who's a guard
or a tackle, who you know I'll see you in
twenty twenty thirty six. That's what you want it to be, right,
even at twenty five. But if you're going to get
the guy who's the guarantee, the safe pick, but close
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to guarantee, that listen, unless he misses the team bus,
he's going to be a good player. Do you got
to trade up and get him? And then And I
don't want to say settle at twenty five, but I
don't think with their assets to get the guy they want,
I don't think they're waiting at twenty twenty four. Now
all of a sudden rolls in eighteen or nineteen and
they're sitting there and they're like, look at the teams
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in front of them, saying they've got other aspirations. Then
you may steal one at twenty five. But to get
the guy you want as an offensive lineman, I think
you're gonna have to go up higher unless the guy
exables there's a good player, But you still take the
risk of a smaller school thing, right, the competition, but
that's when the receiver comes into which one gives you
the better chance at succession. I don't see how you're
drafting somebody on the defensive side with this pick.
Speaker 6 (01:14:38):
If the Texans do take Will Anderson Junior up on
what we just heard him say, remember what you're going
to hear next, because it's gonna make a ton of sense.
We'll do that right here. Sean Salisbury Show.
Speaker 8 (01:14:49):
This is the Sean Salisbury Show. Salesa show that's dootiful.
Speaker 6 (01:14:56):
People have asked Nick Cassio about, so, you know, just
player involvement and just their input in terms of drafting players.
But you just heard Will Anderson Junior talk up Booker
right there, and Tamiko Ryans just ay asked about scouting players,
and you know how much he's improved at that throughout
his coaching career. And take a listen to this because
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if the Texans do go Booker's route on Thursday, remember
back to what Demiko Ryans has to say right here.
Speaker 14 (01:15:24):
Wish I could see more Will Anderson's that makes it
a lot easier. But I see a guy who works
as hard as he works, and it shows up, you know,
on the film and just the person that he is.
You see guys that way. That makes it a lot
easier to scout with him.
Speaker 6 (01:15:40):
So I think of will Anderson Junior. It makes my
job a lot easier when you see how hard that
guy works.
Speaker 2 (01:15:47):
Sean.
Speaker 6 (01:15:48):
Yeah, I mean, if it comes down to it of hey,
who do we really like right here? Well, remember what
Anderson Junior told us. I mean, the guy's got respect
in that building. The guy is somebody that they leave,
is going to be somebody that can help take them
to the next level. If they come to him and say, hey,
we're really thinking about making a hard push for Booker
and he said what he said yesterday and he believes that.
(01:16:10):
You think that's going to carry some weight inside that building.
Speaker 2 (01:16:12):
Yeah, it does. But how much player empowerment do you want?
He's a former teammate. If he was saying it about
a Georgia player that he had to block, that he
had to deal with, Let's say he was playing against
Sure or an LSU player or a Southern col player,
would it hold more waiter?
Speaker 7 (01:16:24):
Is it?
Speaker 2 (01:16:24):
Of course he likes him. It's a former teammate. Now
I give you I'm tom him just being the Devil's advocate, right,
I definitely for me. If the guy mirrors what Will
Anderson does, of course you want him on your team.
And you're probably thinking if we don't trade up, obviously
somebody's going to see what Will seeson what everybody sees.
A guy can play. He's a mid round for mid
first round or upper first round, mid teens pick. But
(01:16:49):
you also got to be judicious and what you hear
and still do your own homework, right, I'm all about
players giving me insight. I'm not letting a player draft
a player. If that's the case, put on a coat
and tire or a golf shirt and come out up
and study twelve hours of film a day, and then
we can make the choice. He saw him, so yes,
why wouldn't I I'm an information guy, meaning the more
(01:17:10):
information I got on something, that's the analytics or the
game plan or the tendencies you find. Oh, on third
and seven they blitzed eighty percent of the time. I'm
probably going to call a blitzpeeder as a coordinator, right,
and then we'll adjust from there. It's just, you know,
it's common sense. So with the common sense of it, Yeah,
because of all of a sudden I say, man, I
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love him, Will What do you think? Yeah, he's good
bad practice player and a bad attitude. And while he
looks good on tape, and he'll mal he's a good player,
but you're gonna deal with the big headache the whole time.
Now do you want that information?
Speaker 11 (01:17:44):
Now?
Speaker 2 (01:17:44):
You guys say, okay, let me go find this out
for myself. If three or four people there's smoke and
there's fire, then you say, okay, that guy's maybe not
for our culture, even though he's the hell of a player.
So those are the things I'm looking for those seconds.
I don't need Will Anderson. I'm talking about me too.
I don't need Will anders Did tell me how good
the guys I've seen him, and I'll watch the tape
and if I'm the GM or the head coach, I've
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seen it a million times. I watch what he does
on I've watched maybe you've gone to spring practice and
watched him work, or talked to you know Saban or
talk to the you know Caleb de Bor and Kaylyn
de boor should I say, and got that taken care
of and then you talk to the players. Of course,
I want all the information I get, especially when I'm
investing that kind of money in the future, and they
missed on Kenyan Green so far. Now the Eagles may
(01:18:26):
capitalize on Kenny Green, but didn't work here, so you
don't want to miss on that. But yes, player empowerment,
no players deciding. If C. J. Stroud comes to me
and said, I love a Bookie, got to draft him. Now,
if it works and he fits in and does, I'm
still going to be my I'll take that because well,
he threw the ball to him right or was there
and part of it and saw it. But I'm not
giving player empowerment where the players the deciding factor. The
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player's part of the factor of all the study we're doing.
And when I hear it from a quality and class
guy who works and Will Anderson basically saying he's without
saying it, that he's basically me without me saying he's me,
I'll say it for him then, of course. But I
would imagine they knew that the alls it is is
an exclamation point in a validation stamp when Will Anderson
tells them what they probably already knew about the player.
Speaker 6 (01:19:11):
Well, I mean, and for a lot of the things
you were talking about, it's mostly from college coaches, right,
you get that absolutely. Like remember when Gidevian Clowney was
coming out, Steve spurriy Er said, yeah, his work ethic
was okay, and people were like, come on, man, how
are you going to say that about your guy? The
point is, well, if I don't tell you the truth
about the guy, then my reputation's on the line.
Speaker 2 (01:19:31):
Listen, and I just use it in I've had it happen,
and in a smaller term, but how I'm one hundred
percent with you on this. Is it train a quarterback
maybe once or twice. Maybe he traveled to you from
out of state, which just happened, or I've traveled to
them from out of state, or they're here and they're
they're they're playing. I've had this happen where they're playing
two sports and then they take a lot of You
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train him twice, and then they get into that select
baseball or another sport whatever it is, lacrosse, I don't care.
Or they trove and then four month by five months
go by and they haven't trained. The season starts, you said,
you know, probably stay on it a little more, and
then six more months go by, and then next the
following spring, you've trained him twice, you haven't seen him,
and you haven't worked him in eight months or names
because they got busy, and then it's recruiting time and
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they want you to send a ringing endorsement to a
Division I school. And here's my thing. I love the kid.
Two times ain't enough for me to tell you. I'll
watch the tape, but working with me for me to
go out there and say, can't miss he's a powerful guy.
You grab him now. If it's automatic, they'll know that anyway.
But if they're relying on me to give him the truth.
And I've told parents this, I said, don't don't call
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me after one session and a year later and say, hey,
could you help my kid get recruited? You trained him once? Yeah,
I train him once. And if you want me to
tell you what I trained him wants, my message would be, well,
he came once, we worked, but decided not to come back.
So what kind of work ethic does he have?
Speaker 3 (01:20:54):
Hock?
Speaker 2 (01:20:55):
Can you paid me for it and you're still not
using him? And what does that tell you? Or they
just so there is absolutely no doubt when it's the
same thing here. If you're Steve spurry and you said,
great work ethic on the practice field, and he doesn't.
You're doing yourself and your team in the team future
and quite frankly clowney at the service and the credibility
is more important though, Like I said, Economy, I'm not
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recommending a Division three player for a Division I school
if I've seen him once. Now, if he's a division
get recruited by Division two. But I've seen him. Say,
let me tell you something. I got a quarterback who
went to Katie. I'm just telling you, and it's Caleb Koger,
and he undersized. His dad's a big dude, love him,
been training him for three years or whatever. He went
to Katie High, winner, won a state championship, and a
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little bit undersized. He goes there as a walk on,
preferred walk on at his school, plays his ass off
and is going to be the starter. I told people
from day why. I said, if the guy was six
two right now, you wouldn't be able to stay off him. Competitive,
underrated thrower, didn't throw a lot because they run the
ball at Katie a lot. I said, he's a hidden gym. Well,
I'll be damned. They went and found it and it
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wasn't because me, because the kid put his time in mean,
you can see it now. Work with him a lot.
I wouldn't have been able to see that after one
thing other than watch him on tape, and then I
can give you some insight like, yeah, have trained this
kid will grind, and I'm telling you there's nothing you're
gonna do to be able to stop him from being
a good player if you give him a chance. He's
the guy you leave your glove out on the mound.
He comes out and picks it up. And the guy
they recruit and gets the scholarship to never gets the
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job back. But you got to see him on in credibility.
So when you see the credibility of these coaches and
it's on the line, I would prefer, if I'm an
NFL coach to your college coach, tell me the truth
because if you don't, ain't coming back to you, because
then how can I trust you. So I would imagine
Will Anderson understands his reputation coaches when he says the
guy can work, and he's and he'll move people, and
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you love him and he makes an offensive line better,
that's got to hold some weight. Yes, even though he's
not gonna draft it because of it. It may be
the final validation you need to say he's on the board.
It's us versus a guy who went to South or
North Dakota State. We're not sure. We don't talk to
anybody who played with him, will lean there. Yeah, it
happens every day.
Speaker 6 (01:22:58):
Your order is your bond, and you can't teach what
you just bringing up right there with the quarterback. I mean,
these are things that you either have it or you don't,
and the Texans are hoping they find a guy that
can be able to have those attributes on Thursday coming
up though, speaking of things you can't teach, well, you
hope that it's learned for the Rockets when it comes
to Game two because if it's not well, then things
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Speaker 6 (01:26:06):
Rockets Game two Western Conference Playoffs coming up tomorrow nights
over at Toyita Center. They're down one oho in the series.
In the first round of the NFL Draft coming up
on Thursday, Texans set to pick twenty fifth. We've been
getting into a lot of the Texans in the last
couple of segments Astros, which will we've back in the
conversation here as the show goes along. But the Rockets,
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I know that you and Gordy yesterday Sean talked a
lot about that performance on Sunday night, which I didn't
really have a chance to talk about it much. You know,
I mean, I've done it on social media everything else.
But since I was out yesterday, I just felt like
we were watching a team on Sunday that kind of
just felt like, Oh, eventually, we'll get this thing back
on track. It you know, we're just a better team
(01:26:50):
than the other team. You know, they're gonna start missing shots,
they're gonna do all these different things, and it was
less about what they can do and more about what
they weren't doing in that game, because I mean, you're
just watching that.
Speaker 2 (01:27:02):
And you're just like, how the hell is this happening
right now?
Speaker 6 (01:27:05):
It almost kind of to me felt like arrogance like
in that game, like where it was, Oh, these guys
have no business running us off the floor. Well guess
what the reality is they're doing it. So what are
you going to do about it to try to be
able to take back control of this game?
Speaker 2 (01:27:19):
Well, you lose, you go down to zero and go
on the road talking rockets. That's a hard place to
go win. They're not coming back here. If that happens,
well it'll be very difficult to get back. You'll get back,
but it'll be with you're looking forward to twenty twenty.
At the very most, you're not winning this series if
you go down to them. There's no doubt. I mean
(01:27:40):
I would you'd be a heavy bet against it. Those
those odds are and it's not exactly like you're going
playing a team who doesn't know how to win in
these moments and they defend you as well. We talk
about defense. All the great offenses that they've had at
Golden State every time they win a championship. They're prettydamn
good defense. When they won the seventy plus games. I
think they metrics wise and satistically best defense in the NBA,
(01:28:03):
and they've been There's a direct correlation. There, just is,
and it goes to football and baseball as well. Can't
be a crappy ass defense with no pitching and win
a championship. You can't be a crappy ass defense in football.
You'll score a lot of points. Ask usc what that
felt like. We'd score forty and get beat forty four
to forty. Couldn't get off the field defensively, and so
you could score with anybody score from the parking lot,
but they could score from their home and so you
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just can't in this case if you don't shoot free throws. Well,
what a common theme free throws? Now they defended, they
did a nice shot, But the problem is you can
defend and Steph still get them in bunches. Would he
end up with thirty one? I think yeah. And I'm
just going to tell you whether we like it or not.
One of the great and this happens every time Jimmy
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goes somewhere new. One of the great gets and smart
gets by Golden State. Their ability to see stuff that
others don't is another. Whether you like them or not,
they just do. Because they were left for dead. Pretty cool.
We thought it's time to rebuild, right it would, And
then all a sudden they've regathered themselves and adding Jimmy
and getting to play and Steph playing like a young man.
This team, this is one of those men. Aren't they
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better than? How should they be the higher seed? You
get my point. They kind of paced themselves and got
hot at the right time, and now they're in and
they're dangerous and they can shoot in Jimmy Butler is
a force. But your second guy can't score seven or nine,
or he can't go one for six beyond the arc,
or three of sixteen or three of thirteen. You just
can't do it. They are gonna and I said going
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into the series, the guy coming out of this series,
if they're gonna win the series, me and the Rockets,
Shen Gouon's gonna be the MVP of the series. I
think he can continue to dominate. But as you saw,
he can get his if somebody else ain't getting theirs
on this team, which were used to it being Dylan
Brooks one night, if Van Vliet another, and then Amen
Thompson and then Jalen Green, somebody's got to rear their
(01:29:54):
head because one for two meaning Shen Gouon for those
two guys who are the two best players in the series,
they just are Stephan and Butler Shan Gun's are a
rising star and we already know what the Cambidy, what
Jalen Green and this team can bring. But it's got
to be sustained because you lose and don't get back
to make free throws, which they didn't do. They dominated
(01:30:16):
the backboards by double digits, so they did the things
that the culture part of udoka. But if you can't
knock down threes and Steph gets thirty and your number
two doesn't get his meaning score whoever the number two
was supposed to be in that game, you're not beating
Golden State, and you're sure as hell not going on
the road and beating them. If you're down to under
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those circumstances, they got to make free throws, and they've
got to have a deeper effort meaning not that they
didn't play hard, a deeper effort on the offensive end,
meaning they've got to have two or three guys. You know,
it's got to be twenty eight, twenty four nineteen type
of thing for them to stay in this. Jalen Green,
one of those guys you mentioned. He plays like he
did on Sunday Night, this series is over. Oh there's
(01:30:59):
no question, because I mean it is almost kind of
to me. And Van Vleet shoots like.
Speaker 6 (01:31:02):
He did, but it shouldn't come to Van Vleet, Like
that's the thing with people that I don't be a facilitator,
not a score I get it.
Speaker 2 (01:31:08):
But if it gets to the point where he's a
facilitator and has to take over some scoring touse somebody
else and shoots like that, this team won't win because
you get you're getting and you're doing something that's out
of your comfort zone. And that's the thing is I mean,
I've said it numerous times and I will continue to
say it as long as this team is playing basketball
this season. Jalen Green scores, this team wins. And it's
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just too many times that you have these inconsistent performances
like you had the other night where you just kind
of look at him and say, hey, buddy, like you know,
high lottery pick all of these different things like when
did the results start to show up? Kate Gunningham.
Speaker 6 (01:31:42):
Last night the Detroit Pistons, they hold off the Knicks
and win that game, Like, that's what you have to
have out of this guy talking about.
Speaker 2 (01:31:50):
In postseason, which was his first playoff game ever, Right, sure,
first playoff game. So I understand my frustrations with you
as well. Now what am I going to see in
game two? And if I see a similar in game two,
then you got to say, now it's okay, excuse me
for one game to maybe be a bit overwhelmed your
first playoff game. It's happened in every sport. That doesn't
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mean you have to live there for seven games or
for four if you don't, if you get swept, or
for you winning in five or six games, you have
to stay there. I understand guys can get overwhelmed in
the game, get caught up in the man. This playoff
is a little different. Yeah it is. And the team
you're playing has a lot of rings on their finger
and understands a lot of playoff in postseason basketball, age
or not. Old man's strength works a lot of ways,
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and you saw it put it together at its finest
with those two guys on Golden State's team. So you're
a one hundred oll. If he plays like that, series
will be done. And if they shoot free throws and
shoot like that, it'll be they'll get swept. But the
other side of it is, I'm gonna cut him some slack.
We've seen him get better every year regular season. Now
he's got a chance to elevate, which we're always looking for.
(01:32:55):
Who are you in the postseason? Who are you in
the postseason? He's got a chance to write that after
one game. Now, if we see this two or three
games in a row, then you know what the narrative
in the offseason is gonna be. Can't win with them
all regular season all the time. And I'm not sure
we're there yet, but that'll be a talk, right the chatter.
He's got to play well there. Listen, they're just too
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good with their two front line guys, and Draymond's gonna
antagonize and do his thing and facilitate some stuff. Shane
Goon will take care of his business. It's the other
guys that need to elevate or Steph's not going three
bad games in a row. He's just not. Jimmy Butler's
too good a player to go with three games in
a row. We're looking there shaking our head like, ah, man,
(01:33:36):
this guy blows the question. Jalen Green's probably the biggest
lightning rod in the series. I know what I'm getting
from Steph Curry, don't you next time? I'm pretty good
idea what I'm getting from Butler, And quite frankly, in
this series, I think Shanguon's gonna get his Do you
know exactly what you're getting from Jalen Green yet? And
that answer is no, no, and now. And it's not
Udokah's fault. I mean, it's not Udokal's deal to figure
(01:33:58):
that out. He knows he's put him in position. It's
Jalen Green's. It's not a matter of letting it come
to you. You have to go snatch this one. You
just do certain things. Golf courses come to you. Let
this is a series. Now, now, you don't let this
come to you. You let it come to you, Blake, You'll
be down two zero. He has to go and snatch
it and prove that he is the next level star
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that we've not only been waiting on, but we've seen
during the regular season at plenty of times. But the
regular season's different than what you're seeing.
Speaker 6 (01:34:29):
Now thirteen and one when he scores thirty plus points.
So I think that's a pretty good case for how
important Jalen Green is to this offense. Ray biscuits, see
you guys right there, get you involved in the conversation. Also,
something that happened elsewhere that has us thinking back to
when times were bad around here. We'll discuss that here
on the Sewn Salisbury Show Sports Talk seven to ninety.
Speaker 2 (01:34:53):
And The Sewn Salisbury Show continues in on the Rockets
right now. Ray in memorial wants to weigh in. Good morning, Ray, Hey, Hey,
how's it going there?
Speaker 7 (01:35:04):
Hey, guy's going shine. It's been a while, man.
Speaker 2 (01:35:07):
Yeah, good to talk to you, buddy. How are you doing.
Speaker 7 (01:35:10):
Uh, it's been Everything's been great, man. I just want
to go ahead and chime in on the Rockets real quickly.
But uh, let's let's let's kind of I've been reading
articles and everything and and if you if you didn't know,
you would think golden. They was up three to zero
in the series. Let's pump the breaks here the Rockets
that they will rebound tomorrow night. I have no doubt
(01:35:31):
because uh as bad as they played Sunday night, they
had a chance and afford. They came back from twenty
three down really in less than a quarter, which is
phenomenon in itself, and got it down to three. So
let's let's pump the breaks there. They're talented enough. I'm
a dookah. He's he's a good coach. He's he's a
great coach. Actually, he'll have those guys ready to play
(01:35:54):
the bamb And they've shown that they can win games
in Golden State. So I don't I don't get the
whole I understand that they have like those they can
have the guys that they have light and stiff, and
those guys that are that are doing their thing and
they've then they're done that. But the Rockets, they the
first game, we're gonna just charge it up to during
the headlights, first playoff game. They'll rebound, they'll come back tomorrow.
(01:36:18):
Things will slow down for them, and I think a
man will come out tomorrow and have a good game
as well. But I'll hang up and listen. But I
fully spoke to see a different Rockets team tomorrow night.
But you guys have a good.
Speaker 2 (01:36:30):
Deal, hurt thanks. I would agree with that. I don't
think that they're gonna shoot like they did, and I
would think that, uh the Jyalen Green's gonna immerse himself
more into getting things done. I do I think they
go back and said, I think they go back one one.
I didn't think they'd sweep it, and I don't think
they're getting swept here. And I know that that mathematically
it says it's not a must win because they're not eliminated,
(01:36:52):
but it is a must win. It's as close to
a must win as you can get without being eliminated
from because of who you're playing, where you're going. But
I'm with Ray, I think that they're going to show
up and this will head back to Golden State one one,
which is tough enough anyway, but you'll take one, especially
against a team who's seen eight million of these playoff games.
Speaker 6 (01:37:10):
Well, it shouldn't surprise you anymore. I mean, I think
that's probably what you can take from Sunday Night is that, hey,
guess what that team can beat it.
Speaker 2 (01:37:18):
They did it three times this year.
Speaker 6 (01:37:19):
So I don't really know why you necessarily would just
go into that game thinking, oh, you know, they don't
have Clay anymore. They don't even have Kevin Durant any
of those other guys that beat us in the past.
Speaker 2 (01:37:30):
Plus those were those teams.
Speaker 6 (01:37:31):
I mean, with James Harden, we were a different team,
and none of those guys are still around. I think
the only guy that's still left over from any of
those teams is Jeff Green from coming back. But I
mean it is also where I guess it is kind
of a do you believe me now kind of scenario
that ema you dont can go to his team with
because it's a hey, this team is here, There're plenty
(01:37:52):
good enough to be able to beat you, and oh
guess what in Game one they did exactly that.
Speaker 2 (01:37:56):
Do you really think, though, deep down, that this team
took Golden State lightly? It looked like it early on
they did. Yes, I don't know how you could. I mean,
I mean, if you're a Udokie, you're probably If that's
the case, you're probably looking around your players, like who
told you that this was going to be easy? I mean,
just look at who you're dealing with. I mean, the
(01:38:16):
Jimmy Butler get by them was the get that a
lot of people turned away from, and they went and
got him, and look what it's done, but I can't
fathom and maybe it was, and you're right, maybe it
was the case. Early on you're like, oh man, we
got to wake up. But the simple fact that it's
Golden State and the guy named Steph Curry still there
(01:38:37):
gives you. That should give you enough to take notice.
Because the guy can take over games. They're going to
have to match that. And I don't even know if
it's intensity because they were they buckled down. Listen, this
ain't the Pistons Knicks. Like I said, you're not gonna
get many games that are in the nineties and eighties.
You're just not in these postseason You're just not. You
keep a team like them under one hundred we get
tell me it's about you've done your job on one
(01:38:59):
end and then to the glass. They just got knocked
out shots, couldn't make free throws and Steph Steph. Listen.
If you're fortunate to keep Steph under twenty points, well,
god blood, then you've had a phenomenal Just hope that
two other guys don't go crazy, right, but you keep
him around there, you'll win the series if he's in.
If he's doing that, he scores thirty one and you
shoot like you did, you're gonna lose series. So I'm
(01:39:21):
with Ray. I think that they're gonna get it done right.
I just can't fathom. I wouldn't think, especially for a
team that hasn't sniffed the playoffs in a minute, I
would think that you'd put respect on every single team
that rolls through. In particular team that's got a bunch
of jewelry, and they got Steph Curry. So if you
weren't awake, you are now well, you would hope.
Speaker 6 (01:39:39):
But I think that also what kind of led into
that fool's gold Shawn was the last time you played
them at their building and you handled them, And I
think that there were probably.
Speaker 2 (01:39:48):
A little bit of normal right, And it's not normal
to handle, but it's normally. I mean, I understand the
confidence level, But wouldn't you if you're a player, I
know what I'd think it'd be like if we go
in and we're playing in Minnesota and we play Chaka
and they're good and we beat them down or Green Bay, Right,
there wasn't one part of me that's got the second
time around we played him, Oh we kicked our ass.
(01:40:09):
The first time I've seen him on tape. It's different.
We just we're getting paid too. So you're having those games.
I can't. I mean to me, I would think you'd
be making a monster mistake if the message in the
locker room now, the message in the locker room should
be their golden state. But they did, we played better
than them this year and beat him in their building.
You want to feed off that, But the last thing
(01:40:31):
you want to do is say, yeah, that's who they are.
Because what you do when you kick their ass and
their building, what's to do? You awaken a team that's
you know, had to take care of their business down
to stretch to put themselves in position. Yeah, I would
think that you, if you didn't know, you learn a
valuable lesson about that. Once again, going back to the
old man's strength, that that guy who's thirty six, thirty
(01:40:52):
seven whatever he is now, Steph Curry, is pretty damn good.
That if you were asleep, I would say, suggests that
that coffee is like Cuban coffee and harsh and hit
you hard when you come out of the gate. What
tomorrow night and try to get this thing even. But
what you can't do, though, is allow that the fact
(01:41:13):
that you're down one game to force you into doing
stuff you're not normally. Now, step outside, you're going to
play better. But what happens is you start to feel
the stress. What happens, like you anything, grip the bat
a little harder. You're down one because you're thinking. They know,
they may say they don't pay attention to social media,
everybody in the building, in the country knows you go
down to a golden state in your own building that
the chances of you coming back with a chance to
(01:41:35):
win the series are not only greatly diminished, but slim
and damn near none.
Speaker 6 (01:41:39):
Oh I've suded. They go down to O two, they're
not coming back home. I mean, well, they'll come back home.
But then it's going to be maybe Doak and rafel
Stone at a podium talking about the season that was,
and you know, answering questions about where do you go
going forward to be able to make sure you move
even further the following season. So it's a huge one.
Tomorrow night must win in every sense of the word.
(01:42:02):
Biscuit wants the way in here. Biscuit, good morning.
Speaker 9 (01:42:05):
Hey, top of the morning to you, my brothers. And
then let me, let me, let me disagree with you,
slightly dead. I think you're reading the body language wrong.
I don't think they were overconfident.
Speaker 11 (01:42:17):
They were overwhelmed. Yeah, I mean, and it's not Sean.
Speaker 9 (01:42:21):
Go back and look where Steph current in the first
time the playoffs, and you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (01:42:27):
Yeah, and Biscuit, That's why I said it's okay to
be overwhelmed one game. It doesn't mean you've got to
be overwhelmed for seven of them. Sometimes getting overwhelmed, I'd
rather have them overwhelmed in game one, come back and say, Okay,
now I get this, then overwhelmed in game seven where
you get your ass kicked and now you are going home.
So Biscuit, I'm with you. I can't imagine. But it's
(01:42:48):
all I mean, being overconfident. But I understand what Dan's saying.
Body language sometimes underrated, sometimes overrated. But to me, if
you did and needed a wake up call, you got
it and you know who you're playing and you probably
need to recognize and need to recognize today, not wait
till tomorrow, and I think they will. But overwhelmed is
in your first playoff, I'll raise my hand. This could
(01:43:08):
It doesn't matter what level, whether it's in high school.
Think about the first I'll raise my hand. The very
first time I got a playoff game was like, uh,
I played at SC in front of one hundred thousand people,
and it's still different. It just is. And so you said, man,
Unfortunately in football you gotta wait for another week. In
one game may get you a limit. We don't get
seven game playoffs in football. You get one. You get
(01:43:29):
your ass kicked, and it's like, I gotta let that
fester the whole year. They at least give minimum of four,
maximum of seven chances to not be overwhelmed. So biscuit,
I'm with you. They looked overwhelmed at times, but that's okay.
It's Golden State. You just can't do it two and
three times in a row. Right.
Speaker 9 (01:43:45):
And here's the thing, though, Dan, you put out there
k cutting hanm and what he did, well, you know
what Kate is going is look up where the Knicks
are in defense, and then look up where Golden State
is in defense since they.
Speaker 11 (01:43:59):
Got Jimmy Bumper. So I don't see Jalen Green. If
you think Jalen Green.
Speaker 9 (01:44:04):
Most scored thirty points against this defense, onna go to State,
you are sadly mistaken. They got a good perimeter defense,
their weaknesses inside.
Speaker 11 (01:44:13):
They got to exploit the inside.
Speaker 9 (01:44:15):
Now, Jalen gotta play better and van Fleet, for the
love of Christ, you've got to hit some open jumpers.
Speaker 11 (01:44:21):
You you know what I mean, because this defense is tight, and.
Speaker 2 (01:44:24):
They're gonna give him open jumpers, Biscuit, They're gonna give
him open jumpers. They're gonna let him right there.
Speaker 11 (01:44:31):
Cuse Sean.
Speaker 9 (01:44:32):
They have no choice because they can't battle inside with
single so they gotta help and so somebody gonna be open.
Here's the thing, though, Shine, and I just want to
say this last thing, because you talked about the KD
thing yesterday.
Speaker 11 (01:44:43):
I just want to chime in on that.
Speaker 16 (01:44:45):
Man.
Speaker 9 (01:44:46):
I don't think KD will put them over the hunt
to win the championship. I think people are thinking six
years ago KD instead of the KD that you got. Now,
you know what I'm saying. And the problem for me,
this is another thing I will Sadie Dan. If you
watch k cutting him yesterday, they had Schroeder and the
other guys handling the ball, then they gave the ball
(01:45:07):
to k cutting him. You're asking Jalen to do with Luca.
That's what you're asking him to be. You asked, and
I don't know if he's quite there yet. You know
what I'm saying. You're asking him to beat the ball
himler and beat the score and facilitate.
Speaker 11 (01:45:20):
And come back. No, I don't know if he's there yet.
Speaker 9 (01:45:23):
He could get there, but he's not there yet.
Speaker 11 (01:45:26):
They just need to give it. Take the ball away
from Jaylor, let him come off the screens.
Speaker 9 (01:45:30):
If you want him to score more, that's what Steph
runs around off the ball. Then you take it to
him and now you can go to work. So I mean,
if that's what you know, you want Jalen to score more,
I just think Ja Bardi need to play more. A
couple of other guys need to play more export the inside.
Speaker 11 (01:45:49):
That's what golden status.
Speaker 2 (01:45:50):
We get is going to dominate. He will dominate this
series if you keep doing this. Shn Gounwell, there's no question,
great point biscuit and real quick Dan and I know
we will come back and continue to discuss. But is
that Van Vliet's gonna have every chance to knock down
shots to be as a hero in this game. He
is going to and with the Jalen Green situation one
(01:46:12):
thing through this championship run because Steph is such a
great shooter, and when Clay was there, the ball didn't listen.
CLAYI will get up fifteen shots before the balls bounce twice,
running people off screens, catch and shoot regularly, and you
know what Draymond's going to do. The most underrated part
of Golden State's championship runs was not the offensive side
(01:46:33):
of the ball. It's defense they do, and they will
contest and contend. Hell, if Jalen Green gets twenty two
or twenty four against this team, I consider that thirty
against some other teams. So but he is going to
have to assert himself and Van Vliet's gonna have to.
It's tough. And to answer Biscuits question about I don't
know if he's there yet. With Luca, I can tell
you no, he's not there yet, but there's an ability
(01:46:56):
for him to dominate a game or two and do
and eight for me means to assert yourself and put
yourself in position to give him the best chance. I
don't think I want to overload Jalen Green with eight
different roles, is my point. Sure, it's tough enough to
get off to run through and get Steph's brilliant at
it right, Ray, my guy Ray Ray Allen brilliant at
(01:47:20):
it still. I mean Klay Thompson was brilliant running people
and they're conditioning right, running them off and then still
having the energy to catch shoot and get lyft and
knockdown shots or take somebody off the dribble. But it
didn't happen. Doesn't happen. They don't let you can test
them because they're so quick off the screen and catching
shooting the balls up quick. And Jalen Green is going
to have to assert himself on the offensive end and
(01:47:41):
then still play defense. It's a challenge, man. This is
a challenge for a team that isn't a one, two
or three seed. It is a challenge. Meaning for the
Rockets on Golden State. This is a team that can
win the West and they've had to work their ass
off to get in this position and they're on the road.
(01:48:02):
They really are that good.
Speaker 6 (01:48:03):
The answer is simple when it comes to Jalen Green.
And we'll talk about it here Sean Salisbury Show.
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we call them do you call them folks? No?
Speaker 6 (01:49:47):
What I just it's the first time I've ever heard
of John Fogerty, you know, referred to as the folks.
Speaker 2 (01:49:55):
Yeah, before he actually took So if you were with
him and you guys like partying Johnny, Johnny, Johnny, Yeah,
John Folks doesn't sound like either. Fogerty's too too macho
with that voice that cut to be a Johnny. Probably
what do you think, TRIPLEI? Is he a Johnny a
(01:50:16):
john or you call are you the guy? Is he
the guy that he just call him by? He's like,
what's up Fogerty? You know, because you know I feel
like he's the guy in high school. Oh man, that's Fogerty. Yeah. Yeah,
Well he's a genius with the music. Musical genius, right,
he gets the last name. Yeah, but do his type
guys that they're getting stoned, or maybe they're having a
cold beer smoking a cigar, or guys in Vietnam and
(01:50:39):
in the you right, or maybe the wrestling guys. You'll
go on your show and call you out and say
you've been smoking. We you know who knows?
Speaker 7 (01:50:45):
Right?
Speaker 2 (01:50:46):
Do you think they've called him? Folks? Anybody? Folks, we
gotta hey, let's redo this cut.
Speaker 6 (01:50:53):
What do you think I think that probably he got
to if nothing else, John John just a hard core
just on just to right there, John, there's enough respect
on the C guy love CCR.
Speaker 2 (01:51:05):
Yeah both. I was gonna say us us and the dude.
I'm just making sure that we got Foges properly, properly introduced. Okay, folks,
I'm not a big nickname guy. Told I like to
say him on here on purpose. Well, I'm not a
big nickname guy. They've got to be organic and it's
it's got to be given to you. You don't claim it. Yeah, yeah,
(01:51:27):
you don't do that. Yeah, I don't think you called hey,
call me folks. No, I don't see him being that
guy either, do you? No be you know, you know
that back in the day when you saw him, Fogarty,
long hair, the mustache, you know, you know they kind
of all look the same. Yeah, well at average white guys.
They played rock and roll in the seventies. Really, could
you really tell the difference? Yeah, singing protest music? Exactly exactly.
(01:51:51):
It's the truth that may be with the Red White,
Blue Head Band, right, did a lid before they went
out of men? Yeah exactly. Yeah, you're laying out there
in the dirt when you're one of their Coachella fests.
We actually, no, those are fake kippies now, yeah at
good point, Yeah, good point by you. They're not like that.
We had it up in the Woodstock Yeah, Woodstock. Yeah,
(01:52:13):
not that where you this. I mean, you're stoned out
of your gorge just because you just are. You're stoned.
You're stoned out just off the feeling of folks being there, right, Yeah.
Speaker 6 (01:52:22):
We're sticking it to the man. Yeah, you're sitting there
listening to music. I don't think anyone Yeah, that's what
lay with your feet up. You're sticking it to the man. Yeah,
good cut. Though, you're right, little gump, little you think war?
Speaker 2 (01:52:34):
You think I mean like that? That's actually Vietnam, No
question about it, no question about it.
Speaker 6 (01:52:39):
Real quick here, you know in response to you, Biscuit,
you know about Jayalen Green, I'm not asking for him
to score thirty plus points a game like I understand
that's not who he is right now. But I need
more than oh of three from three yes, one or
two from the free throw line and seven points like that's.
Speaker 2 (01:52:55):
Fair or not.
Speaker 6 (01:52:55):
When you're picked where you are and you're expected to
be the cornerstone of a franch I can't have that
out of you.
Speaker 2 (01:53:01):
I think Biscuit agrees with you on the there's no
doubt he has got to step up and not be overwhelmed.
Step up, we overuse he got he gotta just he's
got to play like a veteran. He's been in the
playoffs more than one game. I think he agrees. I
just think and maybe in my understanding what Biscuit's saying,
it's just going to be hard with all that responsibility
(01:53:22):
heaped on him to expect him to pump in thirty
a night against that defensive team.
Speaker 6 (01:53:26):
How many times did we see this from the Astros
during their playoff runs of I'm not asking for a
guy to be on a heater, but I've got runners
on the corners right there, hey, or don you know
it'd be really cool right here, a three run homer
over the batter's eye. All right, hey, I got you,
and he did, yeah, jose al Tuve. However many times, hey,
you know, a rold As Chapman's on the mound, you know,
would be really cool. Here we got Springer on first.
(01:53:46):
If you put something in the outfield, he can probably score,
but still over the wall would be even better.
Speaker 2 (01:53:51):
I mean he did. And look what you've you named
three or four guys that pulled through. And it's going
to take that type of effort basketball wise, where it
may not be Green and I It may be Thompson,
it may not be shehn Gun getting twenty seven or
twenty eight. It may end up being Van Vliet knocking
down five threes that he had open looks. And they say, dude,
until you've prove you can knock him down in the
(01:54:13):
playoffs in this playoff series, and he's got a ring
so he understands the intensity of it. So, yeah, there
is no question Jalen Green has to be a impact
player in the series. Let's put I think that's the
easy way. An impact may mean twenty and ten, Tennessee,
it may impact may mean twenty nine and five. I
don't know. But he has to be impactful. And it
(01:54:34):
sure can't be missing open looks in this team not
knocking down free throws. They will destroy you. If you
don't shoot free throws, can't shoot little over fifty percent,
you have no shot. You just can't.
Speaker 6 (01:54:46):
You can do that against the team that you're gonna
beat by twenty that's not this series. No, it's definitely not.
Not against those guys. I mean, even if they are
a sholl of what they used to be, there's still
a team that believes they can win this time of
the year, and the burden of proof is on you
when it comes to that big Jay Dominic. See you
guys right there, We'll get you involved. And then also,
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Speaker 6 (01:56:02):
Yeah, and he had his rug Pete on because they
were trying to go after that Labos.
Speaker 2 (01:56:07):
That's exactly right.
Speaker 6 (01:56:08):
Yeah, you know this guy, this guy looks like a loser,
well at least some house broken me in.
Speaker 2 (01:56:13):
Yeah. And by the way, Eagles are epic. Oh they
are great. Yeah, I like him.
Speaker 6 (01:56:18):
That would be one thing you know how I've told
you before the one question, Hey, you only have one
question for uh for for Jeff Bridges would be do
you really hate the Eagles? I bet he'd probably be like, no, man.
Speaker 2 (01:56:28):
I don't bet. He seems like a guy go right
there and sit and enjoy a concert.
Speaker 12 (01:56:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:56:33):
Yeah, I love Jeff Bridges by the way, I've heard
he's a great guy, great actor. I don't know, I
don't know, I don't know what that's right. Oh yeah, no,
I just I just love his work. Oh yeah, I
think he's awful. Yeah, yeah, what's it the movie where
he was a bomb tech guy?
Speaker 7 (01:56:47):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (01:56:47):
But it was his dad, yeah, Lloyd Bridges. Yeah, and
the terrorist George.
Speaker 1 (01:56:54):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (01:56:55):
And I'm gonna tell you if you say it again,
if you haven't seen Hell or High Water a good one,
you are you don't. You don't appreciate good movies. The
cafe scene too, it's a freaking great Yes. You know
that that that woman is a real waitress at that place.
Speaker 7 (01:57:10):
Oh she is.
Speaker 2 (01:57:10):
Yeah. She had a good job of acting too hot
and got herself a tip too. And I don't mean
the good kin Yeah, exactly. What don't you want? T
Bone Steaks is what we serve. Great movie, it is,
oh man that that she is a classic? What'd she here?
Gonna get this?
Speaker 6 (01:57:25):
And like it basically t bone steaks medium rare. Actually
that want no question? Yeah, this is what you're ordering
it and I'll be right back with their iced tea.
Speaker 7 (01:57:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:57:35):
Yeah, great movie. But yeah, Bridges is a classic Taylor
Sheridan flick. Yeah, well what's he not involved in right now?
Speaker 6 (01:57:41):
I mean if it's a winner and it's a movie
like that, Like I remember hearing him talk about and
by the way, Big j Dominic, get you on second.
I remember him talking about Sacario this is the scariest
thing where he goes, dude, this this was the mild
version of what it really is like of talking with
these people. So there really is a James Bowling or
Josh Browling out there, like that guy showing up flip
(01:58:02):
flops and you just think, hey, who's this guy? Oh well,
when he puts on tactical gear, you're gonna find out who.
Speaker 2 (01:58:06):
He hold different ballgame. Yeah, yeah, I would imagine knowing
someone who works in those the the gangs and cartel situation,
who works around it regularly. Yeah, I think we'd be mortified.
At what we do know or what we don't know.
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Let's put it that way.
Speaker 6 (01:58:28):
Ignorance is blissedness. Oh my goodness, that's that's the world. Yeah,
you think you know, but I don't think you really
want to know?
Speaker 16 (01:58:34):
Yeh?
Speaker 2 (01:58:35):
Do him wrong?
Speaker 6 (01:58:35):
And your head ends up on a on a on
a hood of a truck thing. You know, it's just
like kind of like why tempt fate? Like like why
why even mess with it?
Speaker 2 (01:58:42):
Yeah, it's it's it's crazy, but that uh yeah, Taylor
Sheridan's is he's on a gold.
Speaker 7 (01:58:47):
Run right now.
Speaker 2 (01:58:48):
He's on angible assets. Brother, Yes he is.
Speaker 6 (01:58:51):
He's he's feeling it right now. He's he's got the
shot drop and no doubt about it. Big Jay, good morning,
what's going on?
Speaker 11 (01:58:58):
Good morning?
Speaker 17 (01:58:59):
And I'm proclaiming this now, Big Lebowski Tuesday.
Speaker 2 (01:59:03):
I like it, greatest movie of all time?
Speaker 17 (01:59:05):
Hey Dan, do you ever think he found his credence
tapes and his business papers?
Speaker 7 (01:59:09):
I don't.
Speaker 2 (01:59:10):
Yeah, I don't think he did.
Speaker 6 (01:59:11):
I mean, you know, And then he had the separate
incident with the rug that the first one peed on
in the second one was stolen.
Speaker 17 (01:59:18):
Obvious, you're obviously you're not a golfer.
Speaker 2 (01:59:20):
That's correct. Great great movie for sure.
Speaker 17 (01:59:24):
Real quick, guys, my wife requested me to call and
get your opinion on something we're at. We're watching the
Astros game on Saturday night and Gavin Sheets rips a
double down the line for the Padres and he's got
all his baseball accessories on, and we get the baseball accessories.
But she goes, I want you to call your sports
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guys on Monday or Tuesday, and I want you to
ask him why he can't run with it. He got
to second base, but why can't you just finish out?
So I just love to hear you guys, for my
wife's sake, just talk about baseball, all accessories and all
that nonsense.
Speaker 2 (02:00:02):
I'll hang up and listen.
Speaker 11 (02:00:04):
Appreciate you guys.
Speaker 2 (02:00:06):
Sorry about all the Twitter comments, but we listen all
the time and we love it, and you never have
to apologize about that. I appreciate that. So that's the
big j Yeah, I love him.
Speaker 7 (02:00:17):
Man.
Speaker 2 (02:00:18):
Accessorise, well, you know, like a gal, they got to
have like fourteen pairs of brown shoes which are all
within like a quarter of an inch of each other,
and what they look like. But they got to have
fifteen pair of them, because this one's got a little
more heel. This one's a pump, this one's a sandal,
this one's you know, this one's a strappy. You know
all those things right right, but they get you know
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what I'm saying. It's same with baseball players. Now I'm
not big on all that gear. I am still bothered
when a guy can put a suit of armor on
and crowd the plate and if you hit him it
bounces off like it was like like it was not
like a you're at a shooting range, so of course
you're going to dive out over the plate when no
matter what I hit you with, Yeah, i'd have to
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head hunt. Well, then you go from the elbow. Then
you got a then you got a shin protector, and
then then you got you know, batting gloves, and you
got to take the batting gloves off and put the
running mid on the rest. So to answer the wife's question, well,
if it was an inside the park home run, he
would have had to deal with all of it. But
we accessorize. It's like, you know, when you're gonna go somewhere,
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you got the nice, nice shoes on, and then you're
gonna take them off because you're gonna walk around the boardwalk.
Gals sometimes will keep a pair of tennis shoes in
their per in their big handbag, or in the car
so they can change and walk in their son dress. Right,
you get where I'm going with this. That's baseball player.
Get the first. I gotta get to this thing. Get
the second. I gotta take five minutes to take off
the Bregman ankle thing up to the Bregman elbow pad,
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up to the maybe the ear fly, got to take
that off. And then two batting gloves come off. And
then I mean they're gonna put two on for running,
which used to guys. The guys never used to run.
They used to put batting gloves on to run. But
now they put a mid on one hand, take the
batting glove off the other, because that's a batting glove
as opposed to their running glove. Yes, and it's a
pain in the ask, But they only will keep those
on if its balls hit out of the ballpark or
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the ball is inside the park home run. Other than that,
somebody's coming out the base to get it. That's success arising.
And now you know why. Sometimes Dan, you may go
creat when they have forty seven pairs of earrings or
eight watches, and we all have ours too. I'm sure
they look at our quarks, but baseball players that's their
quirks of Yeah, it takes a minute to get all
that suit armor off, elbow guard.
Speaker 6 (02:02:32):
It gets ankle, I mean, trust me, if you fill
the ball off your ankle, you remember it the flap too.
Speaker 2 (02:02:37):
Yeah, so then you want to make sure that a
all right? Oh, I get them. Yeah, but when you
can wear all that up there, it's like how much
of the inside part of the plate though, I get.
Speaker 6 (02:02:46):
It's also too, I mean, are you that guy? Because
if you're just a guy and you got all that,
then you're a clown.
Speaker 2 (02:02:51):
Yeah, if you're big poppy, if your vigio, if your bonds, Yeah,
you're like and they start complaining, then you throw the
ball away and they hit it the other way for
a home run. Yeah, no doubt. In order to wear
the suit arm or, you've got to be crowned somebody
worthy of it. Is that what you're saying? You know,
sometimes you've got to remind people who you are. Yeah,
it's just different accessories to Big Jay's white big different
accessories for different people. Some don't help. Vlad Guerrero. Dad
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never put batting gloves on. We know that Tucker until
he started wearing them, so very minimal, but he always
wore the ankle you know, the the ankle guard and
so balls filed off the top of your foot, of
your ankle. But it's just another way of they got
something for something for something. It's like they do in
the on deck circle from you know, from putting it
on to the pine tar to the the glue, whatever
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it is you're putting on there. Yeah, it's baseball players
accessorize as much as anybody.
Speaker 6 (02:03:43):
Moister Salute didn't wear batting gloves either, but I noticed
a lot of people didn't want to shake hands with them.
Speaker 2 (02:03:47):
Yeah, Urine'll do that to you. Yeah, that's that smell. Okay,
what would you wear the Big Jay and his wife?
Are you an accessory guy at the plate? A ankle guard? Probably?
Speaker 7 (02:04:00):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (02:04:01):
I too cumbersome for me. It's like a like a
flak jacket, you know. The I War once got hit
thought I thought Ron Rivera killed me on the field,
and I said I would if it hurts that bad
with one on. Yeah, Well why then I'm just taking
it off. I'll just deal with it, And that's an
honest guy. I thought I was dying at cal when
he hit me and I couldn't breath. I thought I'm
(02:04:22):
literally going to die on a Saturday afternoon at Strawberry Hill.
That's how I felt, and I still remind him this day.
I mean, he hit me so hard, I'm like, I can't,
I'm dying, and they had to come. He lost, you know,
knocked the breath aty, but you felt like you couldn't.
I thought I was dying on the field, and thank
good as I wasn't, but at least for me. But yeah,
I'm probably a double batting No, I am a double
(02:04:42):
batting glove and I don't wear any elbow and I
would have been a nonny or flap guy if they'd
allowed it to, I know, don't rub it type of guy. Yeah,
I just I'm just the less. The less was more
for me. And I didn't wear a lot of padding
in football either. You know, wristbands to keep sweat. I
didn't wear them for look, I wanted to keep sweat
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off my palm, right. But other than that, I was
never a I don't like to feel cumbersome. Yet I
was always a sleeves guy. Like on practice during training
camp in the one hundred degree weather, I would always
wear long sleeves just to keep the Yeah, yeah, I
don't know why I did it. I enjoyed getting the sun,
but it was just to have it. And I wore
sleeves in seventy degree weather. Now sometimes it's so hot
(02:05:23):
you went sleeveless. But under my I didn't like the pad.
I don't like this, the stuff underneath the pads rubbing
against my skin. I had to have some kind of
shirt on there, right, Yeah, And I don't like jersey
catching on my arm. So long sleeves at least or
three quarter inch sleeves prevented the jersey from sticking to you,
of sliding because back then our jerseys were baggy. They
weren't skin tight on quarterbacks right like they are on
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everybody now. Well, the game travels, that's what we always
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Tuesdays nine o'clock. That means our good buddy, Chris Gordy
in Studio Gordy. It has the crusade of bobbleheads. Has
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that died down a little bit and getting a little
bit of citywide pub too.
Speaker 2 (02:07:23):
Writing about writing about Ron dot com picked it up.
Speaker 18 (02:07:26):
Yeah, it's uh, you know, look, it's as a collector
of bibbleheads myself, I am go to the game, get
one and leave. I'm not go buy them on the
secondary market and all this. But man, it's I was
surprised how many people have had this issue and run
into it and they're like, I've seen these people for years.
Speaker 2 (02:07:43):
They've been doing this crazy. Are you a bibblehead collector?
I mean, if if one's at bibblehead guy between you two.
Speaker 18 (02:07:51):
It's probably him. But the other thing is too is
not going to hurt somebody for a bottle. It's if
I get one, I'll take it add to the collection.
Speaker 2 (02:07:58):
Yeah, it's not that.
Speaker 6 (02:07:59):
It's not like you know, hey, I've got four tickets,
so give me four bobble heads. Like no, you give
me one of them, thankful for it, and I'll probably
keep it in the box.
Speaker 2 (02:08:07):
And there you go. What's your guys, Youtubo's most valuable
piece of memorabilia?
Speaker 7 (02:08:11):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (02:08:11):
Well, all three answer?
Speaker 3 (02:08:12):
Do you?
Speaker 2 (02:08:12):
I don't care if it's a bad Is there a
piece that maybe it's value to you or you would
think that it would get the most money if you sold,
which I'm not a big seller of them, But is
there something in there? Maybe it's personal reasons or that's
and then on the on the financial side of it,
what's the most valuable and what's the most valuable to
you and it then we'll get to talking with Cordy
front page of the Chronicle for the World Series win
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the second one, and I've been meaning to Hopefully after
his career is over, I'll get Ryan Presley to sign it.
You might have to wait longer that one.
Speaker 11 (02:08:43):
Or two.
Speaker 2 (02:08:44):
Yeah, I've got I was never speak like being in
sports for some of years.
Speaker 18 (02:08:48):
I was never one of those collector guys, like you're
not a big memori big and then somewhere in the
last year or two, I was like, you know what,
I need to start collecting, just not like seeking stuff out,
but because like years ago, somebody give me a baseball
autograph by mccolors, Karrey and all them, Well, I gonna
do with this. It's all held on to it now.
It's kind of you know, it's cool to have. It's
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from the seventeen season, so it was the year they
won the World Series, and it's got Springer, Korey and
all that. So that's probably one of the one of
the coolest. I've got an Earl Campbell oiler's autographed helmet.
Speaker 2 (02:09:17):
That's cool. I got a Joe Burrow National Championship autograph football,
so that's cool. But I want that one. But than that,
I mean, yeah, it's I don't know. I'm sure you
probably have more. So yeah, I've been you know what,
and I when I when you accumu it a lot
of times, it's just like you're at s. You know
what we all did at SC I was a freshman.
We'd go in because at the coliseum back in the day,
each guy had like a stall. It's like you know
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a show. You know the shower doors or the bathroom
doors in a high school, you know those ones. Some
of your bathroom doors may not have a bathroom door
at the high school. So you're sitting there in front
of everybody, but those doors were on each guy's individual
lockers in the in the home at the costume. And
so you did the numbers, and what you'd try to
do is after a game, especially like earlier this year,
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you go down and see if Marcus's jersey was laying
on the ground before when he went to the show,
you know, before somebody come by and pick it up,
because you'd want to snap number thirty three because you
knew we were on the way to a Heisman trophy.
So that was that was that toty. You knew in
the midst of everything with him and that he this
gout could be absolutely still. Well, the opening game we
were playing Tennessee, my freshman well, I knew it from
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watching him practice and how John Robins he'd made him
a blocking back. Here's the guy who was scored five
touchdowns in the CIF championship and John Robinson is a
freshman sticks him to block for Charlie White. So he
learned tough, and Marcus was tough a one hundred year
old leather. But yeah, my freshman year, watching him practice,
I'm like, this is a different and men, I kne
him because we're both from San Diego, but I'm like,
this is a different cat, right, And then you watch
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him play and then the games. He was better even
in the games than he was at practice. Yet he
practiced his ass off, didn't take time. He wasn't one
of those guys that sits back because he was a star.
He wanted to and he towed it and runs sixty yards,
come back, towed it runs six yards. That that reputation.
You're about running backs at s he run and he's
getting their conditioning and every time they touch it that
that is a fact. Run at sixty yards. Don't drag
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him to the ground. You can jog back when you
get back to the huddle. John Robins put him right
back in huddle. It didn't matter who was it. The
choy put him right back in. And so, but that
was one Tony Gwynn autograph jersey because he's passed away,
and he gave my kids hitting lessons and the friendship
with him was mattered to me.
Speaker 18 (02:11:20):
You know that that his and and even though his
voice didn't match how he looked at all at all,
he's supposed to sound like deep throat exactly.
Speaker 2 (02:11:30):
And such a phenomenal human being. I was hosting a
get Up real Quick, you know when get up? When
Roy Firestone did it, then Gary Miller, and so I
got to host it for ten days and gwyn was
a guest. And I don't know if I've ever shared
this with you guys or on this store, but I'm
hosting it. Maybe I did. And Tony comes on and
I said, well, what is something you won't do to
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disrupt you he's in the prime of Raken, right. He said,
I don't play myself in a video game, and I thought,
that's it. I said, why he goes because the timing.
Now think about how psycho this dude is. The timing
of the ball coming in and the spin of the
just even on the video game, because they're so real
and now they're even more than that he was doing. Right,
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He wouldn't play himself because he didn't want it to
disrupt this time. And I'm thinking, you are in that
job in a good way, right, And then I said,
with Tony one year, he's he's coaching at San Diego
State and he's a head baseball coach. I said, my kids,
what can I pay to have teach my kids? And
they're both left handed hitters and he's and they throw right,
he goes, bring them down. We'll have him breaking before long.
And so, and he wouldn't take he wouldn't take any
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money and that, but that's who he was. So that's
a valuable one to me, the Maguire bat, because I'm
an sc guy. You know, you get them and I
don't know, like like I mentioned the Willie Mace with
the valuable one and I know a lot of people
had Pete Rose baseballs, but just the fact that he's
no longer here and what it meant. But I would
probably say, and there are some cool jerseys of teammates
like I got, or guys who played against Marino or
Warren and I got some good jerseys, but those are
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for my kids. But for me, the friendships that Gwinn
along with the autograph of the guy and how cool
they were, So probably Gwynn, because I don't know if
I mean, we've seen a lot of great hitters, and
I wasn't around for Ted Walliams, but there's nobody who
put the battle the ball better than him and who
didn't have to talk about it. He just did it.
And a phenomenal human being. So when that matches, when
they both match, it kind of makes you feel like
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you know that that's a different human being. Special. So
your house is on fire, you got two minutes to
get out. What are you grabbing? Are we talking about
memory or any whatever? Probably yeah, the stuff you'd keeping
us safe or something, right, But as far as stuff
that's I want to say a little bit frivolous. Aside,
I'm drabbing my dogs. The rest of it. But frivolous
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would probably you know, maybe uh, you know, like those
stamps or that my dad collected, or something that was
or something you wrote in a bible, you know, something
that means something to you have stored away that you've
been taking notes in it forever, something like that. But stuff,
it would if I was grabbing stuff, it would probably
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end up being, you know, helmets of the teams I
played for or something like that, just to preserve that
all the Salisbury jerseys. Yeah yeah, they'll make these. Yeah yeah,
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Speaker 6 (02:15:35):
This is the Sean Salisbury Show, get back at it.
And I've said, you know, Gordy, the time is now,
don't wait, get it done. If you're Dana Brown and
Houston Astros, lock him up, lock him up now, do
it now. Yeah, I don't know if they're you know,
there's some guys. They're very selective.
Speaker 18 (02:15:57):
Put it this way, and how they decide on who
gets what account or gets gets what extension and that.
Speaker 2 (02:16:02):
Sort of thing.
Speaker 18 (02:16:04):
You know, the Christian Javier they got ahead of and
then you can't do anything about the injury. But Christian
Hvier was awesome before he got he got his big extensions.
Speaker 2 (02:16:11):
So I'm with you.
Speaker 18 (02:16:13):
I mean, the longer the longer this year goes on,
the more evident it will be. Hunter Brown is the ace.
I mean he just is. And no offense to Fromber,
but the riding's on the wall. We all know Fromber
is gonna walk out that door. At the end of
the year. Everyone's gonna make a bundle of money. Everybody's
gonna slide up a spot. And Hunter Brown is the
ace in the face of this staff.
Speaker 2 (02:16:30):
And Gordion I'm not so sure to mean in I'm
not so sure that even if Fromber was here if
they found a way to pay him. I'm still not
so sure that Hunter Brown's not yet. First starter next
year is her Brown? If Frombery State?
Speaker 7 (02:16:42):
Right?
Speaker 2 (02:16:42):
I mean, I just think that's that's the reality.
Speaker 18 (02:16:44):
So yeah, I look, man, everything I've heard around him,
he's just he's he's developed in front of our eyes.
You know, even talking to guys in the clubhouse. He's
more of a locker room leader kind of guy. I mean,
everything you want from Hunter Brown he has done. And
then something last night against a really good Blue Jays lineup,
just dominant, just completely shutting him down. And you know,
(02:17:07):
luckily the offense woke up because Gossman has been good. Man,
he's having a resurgent year with Toronto, and through those
first ones, damn good, he was great. And then right
there in the fifth they got something going and able
to tee off on him and it was enough. And
you know that you almost needed that. I mean, coming
out of the weekend of you almost swept the Padres,
did you take you out of three this teetering below
(02:17:29):
five hundred thing like you got you gotta start putting
you foot down, saying we are one of the best
teams in the AL West, let's go, let's start proving ourselves.
Speaker 2 (02:17:36):
So when one of these next two, Hey, Gordy, think
about the conversation we were having at this very time
last year the Quantum Leafs had Hunter Brown got skipped
over for a start, and with yeah, we had him.
The conversations we said earlier was pegged for dude, he's
a start away from urin eight and down his leg
and being in the minor leagues, and here he is now.
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Scott Boris is his agent. You got control and the
only reason they're not so urgent to get it done
is because they don't have to because he's under control.
But you want to make the guy happy and you
want to do it. The question is, and Dan brought
it up with these quantum leaps he's made, and we
all three think he's guaranteed ace and one of the
best we got. And it's a cy young guy every
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year going forward. I love his mental toughness. To my
point is to overcome what he went overcame last last
year at the beginning to be in this position now.
But with that is twenty five million. Enough would if
you're Scott Morris and they coming you say six years
for a buck fifty. Are you doing it?
Speaker 18 (02:18:35):
That's that's a tough one. I mean they would have
to they'd have to talk about this thing. And on
top of it, you know, if you're the Astros, maybe
party in the back of your mind is saying, small
sample size, let's see a little bit more after.
Speaker 2 (02:18:47):
Just being a year since he's been that dominant, right,
I just looked it up. It was April eleventh last year,
so this is just over a year ago.
Speaker 18 (02:18:55):
Was that awful game in Kansas City where you couldn't
get out of the first inn and give up nine
earned runs and eleven hits. I mean, it was the
worst thing ever. His era was up to sixteen forty
three after that game.
Speaker 2 (02:19:07):
And the conversation we had with I don't know if
it was on a weekend game or what, but the
conversation we had the next show was he can't count
on him. Yeah, and look now we're talking about his
twenty five MILLIONI year enough with Scott Boris as his agent,
knowing he's your bell cow.
Speaker 18 (02:19:24):
And a few outings after that was that game up
in Detroit where they moved him to the bullpen, and
I don't know what it was, he came out.
Speaker 2 (02:19:31):
Of the pen was like three innings a long relief,
five five, that's right.
Speaker 18 (02:19:35):
And he came out of the pen and it was
you know, he's a he's a Michigan guy, and maybe
it was just being back home in front of family
and friends. He just came out with that bulldog mentality
and attack as was lost that game, but he kept
it at you know, five innings, one run he gave up,
and that almost was like the reset button. It refocused him.
I know, you know he had those conversations with Alex
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Bregman and all that, but he got himself right. And
ever since that moment, this guy's been one of the
best pitchers in the American League. You go look at
the number since that date. I mean, it's been outstanding.
So yeah, I can't say enough about him. I'm with you.
If you can get the deal done, now, go ahead
and do it. But I think both sides maybe you're
stopping to look at it and going why rush this, Well,
(02:20:17):
let's let's wait this, weight this thing out.
Speaker 2 (02:20:19):
If your boris your down started to look at this saying, hmm,
my guy's pretty good. You may not have enough to
get me an extension or the way you want to
do it right, and if you're the Asters, you're right saying, well,
just let me get to talk to me when the
season's over, because if he does again what he did
last and we continue to see that ascent, you might
twenty five. If you could get in at twenty five,
you by do it yourself a bargain basement considering the
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landscape we're in in pro baseball.
Speaker 18 (02:20:43):
Because if you're Dana Brown, you look at you go,
we're gonna get Hovey or back at some point, We're
gonna get mccaullor or you know, McCullers will be back
here soon, hopefully at some point lais Garcia.
Speaker 2 (02:20:53):
Maybe not this year, back next year. You know, we've
got Spencer Urraghetty locked up along.
Speaker 18 (02:20:57):
I mean, like you start to look at it and go, look,
it was sucked to lose him, but maybe you have
a little bit of leverage to say, we're not so
dire that we've got to, you know, crawl over coals
and give you whatever you want.
Speaker 2 (02:21:09):
Scott bor it so we'll see.
Speaker 6 (02:21:12):
I mean, you know a guy that's you know, put
together the season he has to this point, and it's
got the stuff that he has and seemingly has unlocked something.
I don't think he trifled with that too much, so
hopefully they have to hope that that's the case with
let me ask you both a question. I asked Steve
Sparks and it's it's it's gonna be time here in
the next month to ask Steve and maybe Dana Brown.
Speaker 2 (02:21:31):
I ask him both. Every year, I'll ask you to
this for the askers to get where they want to go,
give me one player that has to have either a
cy young MVP type year the rest of the year. Yeah,
that's the end. Is that a no brainer?
Speaker 18 (02:21:47):
It's an absolute because that's what's been this team's biggest
problem and ain't been pitching. It's been the offense. The
Knights where they score zero runs, one run, two runs,
they lose. The offense has to show up and all
the hype and excitement. A couple of years ago, Jordan
Alvarez was the most feared hitter in baseball and then
you know a moment on Saturday where he comes up
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with the bases loaded with one out and everybody on
social media's like, oh my god. And this has happened
so many times in the last you know, this season
and back endo last season and he gets the sack
fly and it's fine, but like.
Speaker 2 (02:22:25):
You know, grand slam fist in the air, like let's go.
Speaker 18 (02:22:29):
So that's the guy we're looking for. And again not
saying he's bad, but just he was, he was on
pace to being. He was Mike Trout Shoheo Tani, most
feared hitter in baseball territory.
Speaker 2 (02:22:41):
And now he's he's pretty good. He's pretty good.
Speaker 18 (02:22:45):
But it's not that like, oh my god, like the
Barry Bonds, like we're gonna walk this guy, and they
did it. Was it last night last night, And and
Gossman's numbers against him historically have been great, but that
was kind of the first time we've seen that recently.
Everybody else has not not been afraid to pitch to him,
and I just want I want him to punish teams
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more to send that message in And of course the
stats will all rack up and he'll be an MVP.
Speaker 2 (02:23:11):
Because he'll build it in bunches, right and his his
his his, uh.
Speaker 7 (02:23:16):
Right.
Speaker 2 (02:23:16):
Now, we're not worried about him hitting singles. You're worried
about him crushing games where he hits nine home runs
in the month right, that's.
Speaker 19 (02:23:22):
What we're talking right the season, right, he should have
seven or eight right now, that's that should be the
your we're living where the Tatistas and and those again,
the Schwarbers are living where you're always when we talk
about oh, you're going to finish in the top three
and home runs, that's him.
Speaker 2 (02:23:35):
Plus he's hell, he can hit three hundred two because
the guy's a great hitter. He I don't know where
we're at now if he's thinking about the power ball.
So he's you know what I'm saying, and it gets
I mean, he's no different than aybody else. You're gonna
grind a little bit when he does break out. It's
going to be an ugly scene for whoever. It's going
to be a blood bath for the pitcher when it
comes to baseball. TI eleve a month this year where
he will absolutely or he'll be the player of the month.
(02:23:57):
There's no question about it. I mean two, you need him,
Christian Walker. Scene deal there, all right, Gordy, let's switch it.
Let's steal you for a few more minutes. Is the rockets?
We know you and I talked about it yesterday. You
can't have what they had offensively in game one and
at the free throw line right more incumbent upon you know,
(02:24:19):
Van Vliet's gonna get looks because of what happened, or
that Jalen Green's got to dominate the game. What haster
Reards had more in this game open looks for Van
Vleet because he will get them, or creation by Jalen
Green because I think Shan Guon's going to get his too.
Which one, if you have to choose, which one's got
to come to fruition so you don't go back down
to Well.
Speaker 18 (02:24:37):
I've been over at the practice facility a handful of
times in the last week, and I'm not gonna be
over there today, but I would expect, like if I
was Emaide, what I would do. First thing, everybody shooting threes.
Just I mean, I want you shooting jacking him up, Yeah,
I want you shoot a hundred. You shoot a hundred,
you should, I mean, just keep because they that's that's
the thing is the other night it and and yes
(02:24:58):
it was exacerbated on Fred, but I mean, everybody, if
they're leaving you open, if they're double team in Shangoon
or they're whatever, and you're getting left your guy's leaving
you and you're wide open.
Speaker 2 (02:25:08):
You've got to knock that down.
Speaker 7 (02:25:09):
You just do.
Speaker 18 (02:25:10):
I mean, uncontested three has gotta be hit in a
series like this with this team. When Steph can make it,
uh jumping up sideways from half court with one arm
in the air and it goes in switch like that,
he's gonna have the miracle shots. I need you to
just hit the wide open one.
Speaker 2 (02:25:24):
Yeah, without being contested shots. You know it's crazy too.
A guy like Steph will have like twelve and you
know he'll hit twelve and you say how many points
he got, and then for about a four minute stint,
he'll go bingo, bango bongo, knock down three and so
he's got twenty seven and he said, where did that
come from? Will you talk about Jordan? Steph will bury
him and munches and he will hit the shot where
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you say, there's no way he made that shot. We're
all as you're asking Gordias. When you've got a knockdown
and they they've doubled in the post and you can
just kick it back out.
Speaker 7 (02:25:52):
You have to.
Speaker 2 (02:25:52):
You have to bury that shot. And they're fortunate they
don't play in the big arenas like College does to
the plot of four. You get the same arena with
the same bat, you've got to knock the shot.
Speaker 18 (02:26:00):
I was standing court side the other night the action
the championship game and watching guys sho my depth perception
would be so awful.
Speaker 2 (02:26:08):
It is awful. And San Antonio is we all three
were there at different night. Is the distance between the
backboard and as you the first row and then gets
back to the back part of it there, it's like,
how do you judge that from long range?
Speaker 12 (02:26:25):
And then the.
Speaker 2 (02:26:27):
It just goes on forever. Highly underrated and the NBA
guys don't have to deal with that. They get the
arenas that they get a good backdrop and stuff, but
it's just you can't go down to oh and it's
got to be done the right way.
Speaker 18 (02:26:38):
Well, you encouraged everybody yesterday evened up their series. So
the two games yesterday or the series are one one.
Speaker 2 (02:26:44):
That's exactly right after being dominated in the in the
first the Knicks got beat last night, right that the
Knicks got beat, the Pistons won and Nuggets then the
Nuggets took care I mean the Nuggets got beat by
the Clippers, which the Clippers clippered right. The question is
can they sustain this throughout? And I'm gonna go Nuggets
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in the series. But a lot of ugly first round,
first round first games, as far as you know, fifty
one point difference, the best team's gonna win in a
seven game series, especially in round one for sure.
Speaker 6 (02:27:17):
Gordy joins us every week courtesy of Carbock. We're in
prime Crawford box season, aren't we we are?
Speaker 18 (02:27:22):
And of course while you're at a dyke in park
you can get your hands on Crawford bok. They're all
over the concourse. You know them, you love them. When
you see the tequila sunrise stripes. You get them to
the big can you get them in the draft in
the glasses that you get to take home.
Speaker 2 (02:27:36):
But quick note on Carbock.
Speaker 18 (02:27:38):
This Friday, they are teaming up with the Asters for
an official watch party in the car Bock Beer Garden
this Friday, six forty first pitch against the Royals, and
here's what they got lined up. Five dollars Crawford back,
five dollars Crawford Pale ales. Remember the special edition ones.
They're gonna have Orbit, They're gonna have the shooting Stars.
They're gonna have the championship trophies on display ASDROS vendors giveaways,
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all the game day energy without the stadium lines. It's
gonna be a lot of fun. I'll be out there
doing our pregame show. So come on out to the
car Buck this Friday. I'll be out there starting a
five thirty again, six forty first pitch. Gonna be a
lot of fun. Bring the family, and what's root on
the astro is gonna win up at Kansas City.
Speaker 6 (02:28:14):
There you go go, Strows, go Rockets. Thanks Gordy. I
appreciate it as always, you're the man, all right, coming up? Well,
you used to have this problem in this town. Now
you don't, but somebody else has to deal with it.
We'll talk about it here Sean Salisbury Show. The Sewn
Salisbury Show continued, Well, he decided to have a full
(02:28:35):
on press conference yesterday because there's season's over, so you
know you do the end of year. Hey, you know
the season all of that, the old exit interviews and
the exit press conference. Yeah yeah, so you get that.
Well yesterday, of course, when you don't open it up
to everyone, his opportunity to be asked by some who
maybe didn't get a chance on the record to ask
about the trade. And when you hear somebody say something
(02:28:59):
like this, let's just say, if you're a fan of
a certain team, it doesn't inspire much confidence.
Speaker 20 (02:29:04):
Didn't know that Luca was important to the to the
fan base. I didn't quite know it to what level.
But really the way we looked at it is, you know,
if you're putting on the if you're putting a team
on the floor, that's Kyrie, Clay, PJ, Anthony Davis, and Lively.
We filled that's a championship caliber team and we would
have been winning at a high level and that would
(02:29:26):
acquieted some of the outrage. And so unfortunately we weren't able.
Speaker 7 (02:29:29):
To do that.
Speaker 20 (02:29:30):
So it just continued to, you.
Speaker 2 (02:29:32):
Know, go on and on, well what part of your
history aside from the fact that he's hurt all the time,
and you know he's a great player in Anthony Davis,
didn't you when he said, well, if we'd had well,
the bottom line is you can count on thirty games
a year. You're not having him, So you go right
in and I understand fat Luca, but Fat Lucas still
averaged thirty plus a game okay, still a generation, no
(02:29:52):
question about it. And it's still in his mid twenties, okay,
with plenty of game left. The thing that blows my
mind is, listen, I didn't know. I don't know enough
about the GM other than what we hear. You know,
he doesn't come as a guy that like worked his
way through and then all of a sudden like, oh man,
he's prime for it. I didn't when he got the gig.
I didn't know enough about his background, did you, Dan,
I'll be honest, I didn't know a lot about him.
(02:30:13):
But right you understand you want to know, have some
feel if you honestly have to be told. And I
don't subscribe to trying to get anybody, you know, cancel
somebody's job and get him fired.
Speaker 7 (02:30:28):
I don't.
Speaker 2 (02:30:29):
I'm always a glass half. Okay, let's is this who
this person is? Or let's see and then there comes
a point in time of is just listen, man, we
can't win with you, or we got it. It's time
to move on. I get it. And especially in that
profession in pro sports, if you haven't been fired, you will,
and if you're a coach or a general manager, you
learn from those and it's going to happen to every
one of them. Right for the most part, Listen, if
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you don't know that your best generational talent, your best player,
how the fan base feels about your then you are
so disengaged from reality that you can't run a basketball team.
You have to get rid of him. You're fired. You're done.
The fact that right when he said that you probably
is the owner. The second that he walks out of
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that meeting, you call him into your office and say,
this is exactly why we have to move on you.
You basically fired yourself. Because if he doesn't have a
feel about the best player, one of the ten best
players in the league, one of the if not as
good a scorer as there is in all of basketball
on a regular basis, fat, skinny, or anywhere in between,
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and you had him in your under your umbrella, in
your in your house. If you don't know how good
he is, how in the world can you tell me
how good the other eleven are?
Speaker 6 (02:31:46):
See, it's not and it's not even that he's evaluation
favor it's he's a fan favorite because he's a hell
of a player.
Speaker 2 (02:31:51):
Right, How can you not see that? Listen, regardless of
the fans may hate him, but on game day, the guy,
the guy knows how to get us what we need
to me. The second he says that he that, he
tells you the guy is so removed from reality on
understanding basketball talent and knowing and recognizing what's going on
in the room, he can't be your general manager. And
(02:32:14):
I don't like to say that about I want to
give guys every chance to make their money and and
and prove themselves. You prove that you cannot do this
job at least now in Dallas, you got to You
just can't that that'd be Can you imagine, okay, give
me another one. Can you imagine? Okay, it's shake gilges
Alexander the equivalent to Luca in his spot. Sure, yeah, okay,
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let's just use that as an example. Great team, gonna
be a heart out Oklahoma City. Can you imagine the
GM saying we traded him for Joe l embiid similar
right for the I've talked about Anthony Davis. I'm talking
about both hurt, yeah, both and guy, you get what
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I'm saying. And then for you to say, well, I
thought we won the trade. I'm only going to get
the guy the year, But I didn't realize that our
fans loved shake Gilgess Alexander immediately. Hence why they're winning
to you wouldn't have to because he'd never say that
if you don't know who your star is, you don't
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know who the sixth man is. He can't be the
general manager of Dallas Mavericks. You just can't. They can't.
He can't overcome that, at least in Dallas. Well, it's
it's not only that.
Speaker 6 (02:33:24):
And the reason why I brought it up of like
feeling it here is because this reminds me of when
the Texans were doing all their stuff of simping for
Jack easter b and you know, continuing to pine for
Bill O'Brien, like just sanction over common sense, and that's
just it, like where it's like, you know, you can say, oh, hey,
well the fans don't know. The fans don't know. Well,
the fans are obviously the ones that keep this thing going.
So if you're going to alienate them as much as
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you're doing it right now and then raise season ticket
prices and then just try to say a blanket, but
we're going to be really competitive next year based off
what because.
Speaker 2 (02:33:55):
What you just proved to me right here just tells
me I don't trust you, dude. Okay, all of a sudden,
the Houston Draft in twenty fifth and and Jackson Dart
fell and you draft him in the first round and
you say, well, this is perfect, and you trade c J.
Stroud during the draft and then they come to you
and you say and and and Cassaro says, I didn't
realize was the crowd. Yeah, you know, we figured if
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you could just add Jackson Dart to this, we we
got this guy and this guy and we're pretty good.
That's what this is the equivalent to.
Speaker 6 (02:34:25):
It's just it's focusing on the wrong things and it's
not having a you know what it tells me. We
talk about players being overwhelmed. That's a GM no offense.
And I don't know anything about him, his past or
any of it. I can just tell you this, and
maybe he'll rejuvenate himself for another gig and be better
next time. We all need another shot. I can tell
you this that those are those are head shaking to
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the point. He is overwhelmed. The job got too big
for him at the wrong time. And that's just as
obvious as it gets he.
Speaker 2 (02:34:55):
Whatever due diligence or study or whatever it is, and
then not understanding the room. Come on, man, Yeah, it's
he made that bed. Now he's got to sleep in it.
It's on him.
Speaker 6 (02:35:07):
Yeah, I mean, and that was in every sense an
interrogation yesterday. It was a bad look for Nico Harrison.
But you know what that's for them to deal with,
and been a bad week or two.
Speaker 2 (02:35:16):
For anybody with the name Nico. Yeah, think about that. Yeah,
when I say two weeks the trade happened longer than
two weeks ago. But with that and Nico at U
C L A L Lead at Tennessee, they they both
thought they were making the right move, and neither one
of them did. Yeah, you got Nico Collins over there.
It's in our.
Speaker 6 (02:35:36):
Jazzy Yeah, protect me, make sure I'm all good. All right,
Tony and Angleton See you're right there. We're working before
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We want to wait.
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Sean Salisbury continues on seven ninety second. But Tony and Engleton,
Good morning, Tony, what's going on? Good morning guys. I
hope you're had a great Easter weekend.
Speaker 7 (02:37:02):
Uh.
Speaker 16 (02:37:03):
We were talking about Hunter Brown earlier. I think he's
the ACE right now, he's the ACE. I trust him
when he goes out, I feel like he's gonna give us.
He's gonna give us six or seven every single time.
He's had some rough outings, but but for the most part,
he's gotten through that. You know, where he struggles early,
he he gets through problems and he and he's and
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he straightens out. I think fromber if it depends on
where we're at, if if if we're if we're in it,
they're gonna keep him, just like they did Bregmant. But
if we're if we're not quite there, I think the
Astros may trade from break the deadline to to stock
up on some more or some more talent late.
Speaker 2 (02:37:43):
And I know that sounds crazy, but.
Speaker 16 (02:37:46):
You gotta do what you gotta do to stay to
stay competitive. Let's see what else we got going on. Oh,
the rockets, the rockets, you know, listen, they decided to
roll with this roster, didn't make any big deals. I
thought that was excellent. See what we can do with
what we have right now. I'm really looking forward. I mean,
I want to see how far they can go in
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this postseason, but I'm really looking forward to the future
for that ball club. That's about all I got. Guys,
all have a great day.
Speaker 6 (02:38:13):
I appreciate it, Tony. I mean, look, I've been on
the record already, Sean. Even if you are in playoff contention,
you get approached with a hell of a package for
from er Valdez, I'm fine with it.
Speaker 2 (02:38:23):
Yeah, you're not giving him away. If you're in the
if you're in the hunt and you know you think
you can not only win the division, but get into
the playoffs and roll through it and have a chance
to go, he will be here. But I'm with you, Dan,
regardless of the situation, I'm answering the phone. I am
answering the phone because if he pitches great, you're not
(02:38:44):
gonna You're not gonna pay him. If he pitches average,
he's still going to be in high demand because he's
a left hand. He's premium and people seeing Saucie last year,
that's exactly right. And he's really good. And if he's
average and you're winning, you're gonna expect that he's gonna
pull out of it. If he's average and you're getting
your ass handed to you, you'll still get assets for him.
(02:39:07):
Maybe not the same as if he was a cy
young candid, because everybody knows people try to lowball you.
Then say, well, I'm gonna, you know, try to win
this trade. If you're going to trade him at the deadline.
But when you get premium left handers, there's there's a
there's gonna be a market for him no matter what.
We've seen enough and he is an innings gobbler, he
eats him up for the most part. Yeah, they will,
they'll be. You can ask for quite a bit if
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you're going to move him, if this team is in
first place or right around there, I think it would
take a you're not giving him away, It would have
to be a really good offer because you still think
this team's always been built for thinking they can win,
and their trades have not been to clear house out
the last seven eight nine years. It's been to give
me somebody who gets us over the top, like they thought.
Kulkuocha and he pitched fantastic here, but it was a
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rental and you didn't pay him and he moved on,
So that they will risk losing Fromber for no assets
if they think that they're in contention when you and
I that's been the history for that.
Speaker 6 (02:40:03):
And it's also too I mean, as we talked about earlier,
you get Lance mcculler's junior back, if he's back to
what he had been Christian Javier, I mean, where you've
got options at that point where you can stomach it.
Speaker 2 (02:40:13):
Yes, it gives you a little leeway to move and
gives you some breathing room on that. Yeah, it's going
to be interesting to see how they do, and we're
they're positioned at that time, and then kind of getting
a gauge from them of what they think it's going
to cost to get in the free agent Well, once
free agency kicks in, I'm not sure they'll be able
to keep up or want to keep up with the
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money that Fromer is going to command, especially if he
pitches like a number one.
Speaker 6 (02:40:37):
The rest of the somebody's gonna throw a bag at it,
and you're just not going to be that team. So,
I mean, if it's not going to be something that
you're concerning yourself, with going forward. Why do you necessarily
need to worry about it right now? Is kind of
the way I look at it. So we'll see how
that all plays out. You know, the seeing in this
business real quick, you're sean before we close up shop here,
keep paying this t's off right now, that's it. Okay,
(02:40:58):
if you don't know, don't go business. Did you know
that the inside the NBA guys found that out last.
Speaker 2 (02:41:03):
Night about there where they're going for their contract.
Speaker 6 (02:41:07):
Or so now I know they were talking about Shaq,
Charles and Kenney were talking about Billy ray Bates.
Speaker 2 (02:41:13):
Okay, oh there there you go, because they had to
find out another way about the they played.
Speaker 6 (02:41:19):
They played the game or alive, like right there, live
on air, and I believe it was Shack that definitively
said I know that he is dead. Well then later
on kind of like we were talking about last Weekly
Courso remember how during the middle of a game, he
had to come in and apologize. Well, Ernie Johnson had
to jump back on and say, no, he's very much alive.
We apologize for the insensitive comment everything else.
Speaker 2 (02:41:41):
So, yeah, that's a live game. It can get you
in trouble that that's why you always got to preface
it with I'm not sure I thought he was, but
he may be. Then then you say, okay, because if
you're not sure, just admit it. But will you guarantee it? Yeah,
but it's the TNT Show. They pretty much can mean
we'll take the part, and I don't think they meant
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it harsh.
Speaker 6 (02:42:03):
No, you know there's a straight man, of course, you know,
of course, you know he jumps back the pro of pros,
no doubt about it that he is, and even an
even better guy.
Speaker 2 (02:42:11):
A lot of fun today, man, that's stuff.
Speaker 6 (02:42:14):
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Speaker 4 (00:23):
Three two and that a strike three call right on
the inside border at ninety eight Roadent goes down looking
and the Blue Jays are retired. Six strikeouts for Brown,
and we're through four and a half at Dyke in
Park one one. That's back the other way to write
fairly deeps Ringer racing back looking up off the wall
around third spend.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
He will score and the third.
Speaker 4 (00:45):
Base goes Rogers. It's an RBI double for Zach de
Censo and the Astros lateen on to nothing. The Censo
second run back at another year's been the kick in
the pitch and I'll two eight lines this one in
the left field, racing.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
Wrote it, and that what hops down of town scoreboard.
Speaker 4 (01:03):
Rogers scores Dessentio right behind him. He scores two run
double for Rose l two bank free to nothing Astros.
Speaker 5 (01:11):
Brown's too two bitch breaking ball, ground ball to the shortstop.
Paynya reliable shortstop, throws out Javettees. That's out number three
seven shut out innings for Hunter Brown. That's twenty four
consecutives scoreless eddings per Hunter.
Speaker 6 (01:29):
You know Ted Nugent Sean used to be known as
the MotorCity mad Man. Well, Ted, I got bad news
for you. The MotorCity mad Man is now here in Houston.
As the Astros went last night seven to nothing to
open up their series against the Blue Jays, and with
all that we say away we go, good morning.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
Good morning. Yeah, old Hunter Brown continues to show everybody
why he's a dog. Okay, in the good in the
best of forms. He is consistent, he's tough, he got
some run support last night. And the lead of the
whole thing is not just how good Hunter Brown is.
(02:07):
We knew that, and it's becoming more and more apparent
dominant that he's also as mentally tough as there is
on that pitching staff. If I mean that, that's what
you want from your guy out front. But the whole
thing is forced Whitley last night to be able to
come in and do what he did and go two scoreless,
strike out a couple nobody touched first base with a hit,
(02:29):
I mean no hits, no runs, Well they get two hits.
The whole time both off Hunter Brown, I believe hit
two hits shut out between the two of them. But
talk about a road back to to trying to be
that guy, right and it's just we don't talk and
I mean we've talked a lot about him early on
and then he got lost in the shuffle. But for
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him to come in that that's an arm that if
that is consistent with what we saw last night, you're
this is that adds tremendous. With mccullors coming back soon,
you hope being Gusto back in the bullpen or if
you need him a hell, who the hell knows what
it appears for us what he's going to be a
bullpen guy forever, right, But you never know how how
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that made long relief gave you to last night, Right,
So that was impressive. They now people, let's not I know,
the first thought is gonna that descends has got to
be your starting first base and every day, slow down,
slow down. You guys know that's not gonna happen right now.
I mean, I get it comes in, you know, and
plays first base and place a Christian Walker. I get
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all that, but let's it's a game. Let Christian Walker
get rolling because all it'll do is help the depth
of this team obviously in the production. If Walker's who
we believed he was coming here, and then descends those
ability to move around and do just what he did,
come in and spots start and drive in, drive in
runs and take care of your business. Hit a couple
what doubles. I think last night he uh, it was
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impressive and Hunter Brown from the get go was just
dominant the whole game, struck out nine, walked one. He
is becoming if this at this ascent, if the Astros
continued to be a good team and stay solid around him,
I don't see how this guy's not a cy Young
(04:15):
Award winner or at least in that hunt.
Speaker 6 (04:17):
Every year he's been unreal. I mean his era coming
into the game last night I think was an even too.
Now it's a one to one at six for Brown
this season, and I mean it's on a string for
him right now, Sean, I mean it is, Hey, here
comes ninety eight, good luck.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
This time last year we were asking what the hell
is wrong with Hunter Brown? Something was wrong? What was
his health? Was it is a mechanical flaw? Did we
overrate him? Are we ever even gonna get this guy
right or is it just gonna be? Is this guy
a middle relief guy? And forget it, you got skipped
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in the rotation. We also the question I felt we
were one horrible start away from going to triple A,
honest to guy. That's how it felt last year, sitting
in this very chair. And then all of a sudden
it switched. I remember Monday, we had Steve Sparks on
while this was going, and he was a big focus
on what is wrong and how does he fix it?
(05:14):
And Steve Sparks said, take the inner part of the plate,
make sure that you're not afraid to throw it, you know,
attack on the inner half of the plate and push
people off that, which will make everything else better, especially
with his overpowering stuff when he's going somehow, some way,
it's all turned out that he's attacking the inside part
of the plate. And Hunter Brown from that day forward
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was a difference and whether he heard Steve or whether
they talked about it, or whether it had been in
the mix, and it just he applied it whatever it was.
He qulit, allow that half the plate to be the hitters,
and took care of the entire plate right in out, up,
down all of it, and now look the guy at
times feels like he's unhittable. I believe if you'd have
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pitched him the last two had a he would have
a complete game shutout. I think he was that good
last one. But and then Whitley comes in does his thing.
Speaker 7 (06:06):
I was.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
I'm I'm impressed, so impressed with Hunter Brown and this
regardless of what happens. I tweeted this last night, regardless
of what happens with Fromber, and it goes and gets
paid big money because Fromber once again two days ago
or you know, was it Sunday? We saw the Fromber
even though they lost, that was solid successful Fromber. Who
is going to be the next start that I think
(06:29):
that's what we got to get out of it. We
know who he's going to I think I know who
Hunter Brown is going to be most every start, regardless
of what happens, even if Fromer comes back. Your opening
season started in twenty six. As we said, it's going
to be Hunter Brown and he is your ace now.
And we can say and they'll I understand. When you're
part of the organization, you got to say all the
(06:49):
right things as a manager, as a general manager, as
a coach, as a player, I can tell you this
that if it gets too and somehow that stuff will
find you a single limit Nation game. We've talked about this.
With everybody rested, there is absolutely no way on God's
green Earth as Hunter Brown not your starter. If if
your season depends on it and everybody's rested, he's the
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guy you run out there first, in my opinion. So
and that's it's less a because I think Fromber and
you heard John Smoltz is some far more expert at
than any of us are on here because he's lived it.
Who loves Fromber. But even he even loved Hunter Brown
more and he said he thinks Fromber's is, as you know,
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is as good as there is. He's one of those guys. Sure,
And so it's not really a dig on Fromber, although
we'd love the mental and to limit the the extremes
of good to bad somewhere in between where you can,
you know, pitch six innings, not pitch your best and
emotionally you're under control, still win a game, right because
he'll eat innings. We know that. But it's more of
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a compliment to Hunter Brown. And you want to talk
about a quantum leap. You don't go from where he
was at this time last year to this point now
where he is now where everybody in this league knows.
If you've got to face him, you're in for You
better strap it on because it is a long game, man,
And he's not afraid to challenge you. I think he's tough,
and I I baseball beware. They know how good he is.
(08:17):
And the scary thing about is he's starting to figure
that out too. And when he does, fully you're looking
at you're looking at the now. I mean one of
those nasty give him the ball and you know what
you're going to get out of it type of pitchers.
And the quantum leap he made from last year this year,
just in that period of time, and to be that
dominant after can being skipped over for a start, that
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is that's doing your work. And it just tells me
his mental and a lot of guys would have wilted
after that start. They would have said, you know what,
I don't know what's going on. Yeah, maybe I just
don't have it. That's right, And now look he not
only has it, but if you need one game to win,
that's your guy.
Speaker 6 (08:55):
Well, Sean I mean, I think he continues doing what
he's doing right now. They All Star Game this year
is in Atlanta. There's no reason to think that it
would be the I guess it'd be Aaron Boone. That
Aaron Boone wouldn't think about naming Hunter Brown his All
Star starter.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
If it keeps up like this and the Astros can
go on a win streak, get then the hitting gives
him seven runs. When that guy's pitching, he not only
be the All Star Game and starter. The dude when
we have cy Young votes, he'll be getting some because
they will be in it and they score, they start
scoring four, five, six runs, you know, on a regular basis,
and get going. He'll be in the hunt. What's he
(09:33):
right now? Three and one? Yeah? This is?
Speaker 6 (09:37):
And that one was just because his offense couldn't help him.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
Out exactly right, because he and he didn't he he's
this is now. I know he's not thinking about this.
We all, you know, in our job, we always do
the what ifs. But the dude's a stud man and
he's proven it. And when he goes out there, I
think they're at that comfortable point as a defense that
stay on guard, but be aware because he'll bore you.
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He'll boor you because they're not gonna be a whole
lot of contact when he's going good, right, So you've
got to stay on guard so that one hit into
the hole. You can backhand it if you're the third
baseman and go do your thing, but he is. It's
one of those you can get caught gawking your own
player because he's going good. You can. It's like I've
seen it in football, or I've been there where we're
having a game or another guy's having a game, like damn,
(10:23):
you get caught watching the guy and saying, man elway
or watching Marino throw the ball. This is something, well,
you're trying to beat him. It's like, damn, I've done.
And I watched Sean Warren Moon go back and forth.
Both had like four hundred yards in the game or
more or whatever it was. It was just up and
down the field. I'm sitting there, you know, as Warren's
you know, Caddy on the sidelines, you know, be in
his backup at the time and talking in between series.
(10:45):
Every time either one of them touched the ball was
like Dan got his, then Warren come back and got his.
It was like well, always watching two Hall of Famers
slinging around the lot. Yeah, it was easy to get
caught up in. Damn if you were an everyday play.
I mean, fortunately my position, I'm watching the quarterback play
to help my guy. But if you're somebody who wasn't
on the field and you're watching, it would have been
easy to say, well, can I get some popcorn? This
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is a pretty good show man. It's the same thing
when you're watching Hunter Brown. It's like, you know, what
is this settle in? Because if you're a defense he said,
there's a third base to say, gosh, dang, this guy's
pretty good. No, no, he's touching him. And then that's
the time they you know, some hits a slow roller right,
you know, down the third base line and gets a
double at out of it. Because you're like, you're so
intrigued with your guy, so you do have to guard
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against it. Because he's going so good right now, getting
placed people in scoring position. For the opponent, it's not
real easy for them right now. And he was sensational
last night.
Speaker 6 (11:36):
Well, I remember crash Davis, the wise philosopher, once said
that strikeouts are fascist. Well, I think that, you know,
not only Joe Espata, Hunter Brown, even the Astros defense,
I think they'd be for this type of fascism.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
All nine strikeouts, Yeah, well we'll take that any day
of the week. It can stop there. But with him, yeah,
and nine strikeouts, but made it. He's so efficient right
now with the way he's going, you know what I'm saying. Mechanically,
we obviously know where he got that from. But he's
he's now got the great stuff and a bulldog mentality,
and you got to be it's you got to bring
your best stuff when you're pitching and when you're when
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you're pitching against him, but also when you're hitting against him,
because it's a you're not going to look real, real
pretty most of the time.
Speaker 6 (12:16):
Now, the other side of that, he's a fielders dream
because he's not a dilly dally and obviously with the
pitch clock you can't do that now. But he's a
get the ball back, get the sign go. He's the
golfer who.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
Knows what shot he wants to hit and isn't standing
over the golf ball for thirty seconds on the PGA tour.
He's a guy like Ludwig Oberg or one of the
steps Straka or the the you know, over the weekend
it was in the final grouping. I'm losing my mind
who was and I watched every frigging shot. But those
guys who step up, they don't have They're not giving
fifteen minutes of Caddy talk. They to step up. They
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already know. By the time they step up, take one
waggle and let it rip. Right. That's him, give me
a ball, let's go and take care of your exactly.
He's a few just in the fans and everything because
he gets the ball. Let's go, play man, Patrick Cantlay,
he is not no doubt, Burley used to do stuff.
I mean, Burley works faster than anybody. And Mark Road,
I mean he'd strike guy out. We'll throw the ball
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around the infield by the time third baseman got it
back to him. Hell, he was in his wind up. Yeah, boom,
bull catch throw, let's go. I mean that guy would
have probably said, pitchclock, I'm winning one hundred more games.
You know, because that guy you want an hour and
forty minute game, hour and thirty minute game, he was
the guy to give it to you. And while Hunter
Brown may not be that urgent, but you're exactly right.
(13:31):
He's he's great for a defensive player's dream because you know,
we're up going, We're not lounging around. Let's get it done.
And he throws strikes, which is a good thing, no
doubt about it. Astros.
Speaker 6 (13:41):
When last night seven to nothing Hunter Brown twenty four
consecutive scoreless innings, try that on for size. He's now
three and one on this season. We'll get into some
rockets too as the show goes along. He must win
tomorrow night against the Golden State Warriors in the NFL Draft,
where a couple of days away, Texans currently slated to
pick at twenty fifth overall. But one thing we mentioned
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about Hunter Brown, one thing we have not quite mentioned
that we'll get into here on the Sean Salisbury Show.
We're just getting going here someone three two one two
five seven ninety against someone three two one two five
seven ninety here on Sports Talk seven ninety.
Speaker 8 (14:16):
This is the Sean Salisbury Show. Salsbury, that's beautiful.
Speaker 6 (14:23):
Hey, who's that guy that where's the captain's hat? You know,
on the road because people know him here, they know
that there's a stick here. But if he goes over
to the Bay Area, wearing a captain's hat and the
Rockets win.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
You want him to you want him to look like
captain and Tanil, Yeah, like Tony Tanil's husband, Yeah, the captain.
Speaker 6 (14:38):
Yeah, then we're not gonna give them the stripes because
you got to earn those. I mean, we don't want
you know, our our our people that have been in
the navy, or anybody that has reached a certain rank
of captain on a on a skiff to get too
upset with them.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
But I think a lot of nautical stuff by you
this morning.
Speaker 7 (14:55):
Damn.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
Yeah, come on in hold me. Yeah, so Maddy likes
the yacht rock he does. I'm trying to picture him.
He'd probably look like Captain stubing with the with the
that captain and Tony Toil. Yeah, where he's like, you know,
somebody's laying on top of the piano while he's thinking
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he was it know that tramp a vamp in a
bit of that was a that's Sonny and Bono and
Sonny and Cher but whatever the you know the captain
is Neil, Tony Tanil. She'd lay on top of that
piano while I'd be singing, right yeah, or is it
Captain stubing that MAT's just running the love Boat.
Speaker 6 (15:31):
Yeah, he very much would be the captain of the
love Boat. Yeah, I'm with you on that.
Speaker 2 (15:35):
One was the love Boat. What's it? The little guy?
The plane, the plane, No, that would be Fantasy Fantasy Island.
There you go. See, I'm getting my seventies shows. You
called him the little guy. Yeah, I mean you were
politically correct, dude, yeah, small fellah. Yeah, yeah, that was
Fantasy Island. But yeah, the Captain's hat for Maddy Maddy ballgame.
(16:00):
So so he loves I know, he'll go man a
low and stuff and diamond and stuff. Yeah. Yeah, I
like his style when it comes to that. There ain't
none wrong with that pretty much.
Speaker 6 (16:11):
If it's previous to nineteen eighty then it is a
favorite of Matt Thomas. And that's game shows and music alike.
So that's why we love him. Someone three two one,
two five seven ninety the number to get in on
the phone lines, Hunter Brown. You know, we we talked
about the possibilities for him all star wise, Sean. Here
was another thing that came to mind for me last night.
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I immediately started looking. And there's a good site you can
go to spo Track is the name of the site
where you can check on contract situations and how much
control do the Astros have over him? Well, he's got
three more years of arbitration and he is currently making
eight hundred and seven thousand dollars this.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
Season, most underpaid pitcher in baseball. Problem easily easily.
Speaker 6 (16:55):
I took it a step further that I know that
sometimes we kind of feel like there's a slow playing
when it comes to contracts here, and I feel like
that this organization turned over a new leaf last year
of saying kind of like what you guys talked about
yesterday with Steve Sparks, thirteen years of club control over
having a guy for one year, because we're not lost
on what Kyle Tucker's doing right now.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
But still, but you shouldn't be surprised. Sure, when the
guy's on the field, he's been a producer bad, right,
You knew this was good, and this is why you
traded him, because if he came back it was productive.
It's gonna cost you four hundred million or three eighty
or three fifty whatever it is, thirty five a million,
of course, so you got it while the getting was good.
He's raking he I mean, they're gonna love him there,
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quiet takes care of his business. I didn't expect anything more. Heck,
I'm actually pleased with the three guys when you knew
what Kyle Tucker was gonna do. I don't know if
we knew west Nesky was this good. I don't know
if we knew that Preadus. It feels like Preadus has
been a leader on the team for a few of
me just kind of fits right in. You're hitting him
in a two hole, you can hit him in it.
I mean, did dive if I'm not mistaken, he was
(18:00):
in the three or four hole? Yeah, exactly, Yeah, that's right.
And uh so I don't and then you obviously Cam
Smith's a budding superstar. You can see just simple things
like getting thrown upstairs at ninety eight and fighting it
off and base hit the right field, I mean the
guy and then a couple homers. So yeah, I mean,
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I think both teams are winning with this trade. No shock,
Kyle TUCKI you were't gonna pay him, but I got
news for you. You're right, certain guys fall under the
You might want to get out in front of this thing.
He's becoming that guy, not just a guy. He is
that guy, and that's where I'm going. Is Dana Brown?
Speaker 6 (18:40):
I mean, just from his words and also just how
the Kyle excuse me, the Alex Bregman contract situation was handled.
I think that more or less it was just looked
at as, hey, look, we're not going to bit against ourselves.
We know that somebody is going to be a higher
bitterer than us. We're just we've got to move on.
We've got to be able to build up our team
this way. But if you're Dana Brown, now how you doing, buddy?
(19:01):
It's Dana. Let's talk about Hunter and let's let's avoid
these three years of arbitration. Let's get the guy paid
right now, and let's get this thing locked up. And
if you're Hunter Brown, you look at it and he's,
what twenty five years old? You put us six years
twenty five per in front of him right now. I
think he takes it, because one question is does Scott
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Boris take it? I mean I get that, but I
mean I think if you're Hunter Brown, as opposed to
making twenty five six years plus.
Speaker 2 (19:30):
You said six years for a buck fifty. Yeah, oh,
going from eight hundred thousand to twenty five million year ago. Yeah,
that's a hell of a pay race. The one thing
you got to remember is who you're dealing with, because
if you go in right now and say six years
for a buck fifty, do you know what Scott Boris
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is gonna say. If that's your first offer, you're gonna
have to raise that you get. I'm talking about if
your boss, because what listen, it ain't like he's he
low balls anybody. You know, he's going to squeeze the
turn up for every ounce, knowing what he's got as
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a front line starter, knowing the premium placed on guys
like Connor Brown at his age, being that dominant, you
could actually hold the cards on this one and say
twenty five is not enough. Now to you and me,
it's like, come on, man, you get this. You you know,
eliminate three years of arbitration, You got a six year deal,
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You get your stud locked up. Quite frankly, by the
time he's thirty, it's a bargain price, man, even hell,
it maybe the second he sides it right in this
day and age. So I am with you. Oh, if
you're I don't know what the price is going to be.
If you're asking me, do you jump all over it. Absolutely,
you've got to treat Hunter Brown as the pitcher's version
(20:56):
of Jordan Alvarez. That's what you have to do. And
I think you're at that point because you know, it's
one thing to keep losing people. You need what Jim
mister Crane has with had with Verlander, that that's just
the guy that this is. He's our guy, and he's
you know, when he came here, We're gonna pay him
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extra for whatever it takes to keep him here for
for the most part, until you know he's in his forties, right,
and get that production and they did, you know, whether
it's leave and come back, whether it's keep him here,
sign another twenty five million dollars, whatever it is. And
Hunter Brown's a younger version of that for the obvious
reasons that we all have talked about. But yeah, I
like I like the idea, and I love where you're
going with it. I just don't know what it's going
(21:37):
to take. And I don't know if in Scott Boris's mind,
if twenty five million years fair. Now you and I
are looking like, dude, you make eight hundred grand a
year and you're the most underpaid page. I don't know
what schoobl makes. Do we know what he makes? Did
he get a new contract? Not yet? Okay, so he's
in he's on line to get paid, right, But I'm
just going through and thinking, Man, if if I'm if
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I'm if I'm Scott Moore, wouldn't you battle that a
little bit? I would? And if you're Dana Brown, you
don't want to let this continue on because you know
what the truth is. If this keeps up by the
end of the year, you won't be offered in twenty
five million a year. You'll have to offer him more
than that. Right, It's almost you can pay me now
or pay me later. Will you want to jump out
in front of it? I don't know if they think
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it's premature to get out the one thing they do,
they get after it, but they use the term we're
not going to rush anything injuries contracts, and there might
be a certain time when you might need to put
a little rush order on it, right, pay the extra
three dollars fee to get it here a little quicker.
But I just don't know. The guy is so dominant
right now, and every time he goes out there, he's
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added he's changed more money to his bank account.
Speaker 6 (22:45):
And that's where I was going with the turnover a
new leaf, because you didn't trade Kyle Tucker the last
few years.
Speaker 2 (22:50):
You would have let it ride.
Speaker 6 (22:51):
You would have said, one more run with this guy
and then we'll worry about it from there. But Dana Brown,
I think, looked at this organization and said, we can't
keep living this life.
Speaker 2 (22:59):
Guys, well, eventually you lose a player, a player after
a player after player. Core Wise, eventually you don't go
from restocking. You do have to rebuild. The way they're
working it though, by Cam Smith playing every day, de
Zenzo getting his you're thinking, okay, there's a future there.
Parades is a good player, you know, Christian Walker, although
in his thirties, hopefully has more game. You know, Pain
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is young. Al Twove is not going anywhere. Jordan Alvarez,
he's going to get it going. You look and you say, okay,
we don't have to. This isn't a rebuild. We're starting,
I mean with the mix of youth and then the
pitching staff. You know, if Whitley can continue this man,
what a blessing that is. You start to see Wizneski.
You start to see the gustos, You start to see
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the way I mean Fromber's still young, obviously, Hunter Brown,
you used to look around Arraghetty's young and the anticipation
of mccullor's coming back. There's a lot of good to
like with veterans and youth mix, and you do have
to bridge that gap. That's why they suffered with you
know when they lost these first round picks because of
the the sign stealing stuff set him back. But how
(24:02):
quickly you can retool that part of it to be
able to retool your roster and use it wisely it's huge.
So yeah, the mix is there, and the question is
when do you decide the time. Now you have him
under control, that's fine, so that really that urgency is
not there. But the urgency to just secure it up
(24:23):
so you can go focus on something else wouldn't be
a bad idea.
Speaker 6 (24:26):
I mean, we see it all the time in the NFL.
You lock up your franchise quarterback. This guy's a franchise pitcher.
So the further you get into arbitration, the lesser of
a chance you have to be able to have an
agreeable number with this guy. So I think you get
it done as soon as you can. Scooball, by the way,
has another year of arbitration, but he's making ten point
one this year.
Speaker 2 (24:46):
Think about that now, And rightfully, the guy's worth far
more than that. But then and a premium is a lefty, right,
you're that and he's underpaid. So now do the math. Yeah,
you think the guy here is underpaid. You could almost
triple that. Yeah, no question about it.
Speaker 1 (25:02):
Now.
Speaker 2 (25:03):
So the Astros, the ball is in your court right now.
Speaker 6 (25:06):
I mean, the Hunter Brown is absolutely worth it and
he has proven that at this moment. All right, let's
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Speaker 6 (27:23):
You mentioned something in the first segment that really stood
out to me because it reminds me of this time
last year and the Astros. At this time last year, Boy,
we were wondering, man, we've been hearing about the possible
end of this thing where it just you know, the
consecutive alcs, is the World series, all those things. It's
looking like it is a long way from being that
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here in twenty twenty four and then they eventually turned
it on. But a huge catalyst for that was you
were banged up pitching wise, You didn't have Verlanders for
some time. You had to count on guys that probably
you would have rather not counted on at that time,
like Spencer Ereg and he eventually showed you all right, hey,
there's some promise with this guy. But you mentioned it
(28:05):
with Forrest Whitley last night. I mean, you see a
guy that we've been hearing about for years, and the
problem with him has been the same deal as it's
been with Lance mccullus junior. It's been can you stay healthy?
Because we know the stuff is there. We know when
you get out there and have an opportunity you can produce.
It's just can you stay out there and do it?
And if you get that. Last night we've been talking
(28:25):
about the seventh inning. That guy's a hell of a
candidate for a seventh inning. If that's what you're getting,
no doubt it'd be ideal. Is of course he's got stuff.
Nobody would have waited this long if he couldn't, if
he wasn't a dynamic, you know, precise when he was
(28:46):
healthy and going, you don't wait this long. I mean,
it feels like it's been twenty years. It really does.
Speaker 2 (28:53):
But and you think, if it feels like that for us,
imagine what it feels like for him. When's the last
time you saw him pitch back to beck innings. When's
the last time the guy went, what do you have?
Thirty some pitches? When's the last time in a major
league game he went back to back innings and threw
thirty some pitches? Well, last year he made his major
league debut. So never and when did he come into
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when when did he join the Astros organization?
Speaker 6 (29:16):
Well, I mean, it's funny you mentioned that because I
remember during spring training somebody asked him about, you know, hey,
who was an influence on you? He goes, yeah, I
remember in the spring training Garrett Cole, You're like, what what?
Speaker 9 (29:25):
Whoa?
Speaker 2 (29:26):
Whoa? Whoa?
Speaker 1 (29:26):
What?
Speaker 6 (29:27):
Like to your point, I mean, it seems like it
was forever in a lifetime ago.
Speaker 2 (29:31):
And here we are. So the significance of it from me,
it's got to be emotional for him, and then to
do what he did, it's got to feel good because
the question I here we go again, it's this oh
little weight. Oh it's a mental Oh it's arm trouble.
Oh it's he's too big. Oh he needs to get
you know, is he all the questions that we've went through,
(29:54):
mechanics and everything, he changed this, He got bigger, he
got stronger. Oh he trimmed down. I mean it's he's
injured again. It's been crazy for the guy. So if
you think we're impatient, imagine what that guy's been through.
Because no matter what anybody says, the athlete suffers more
than we do. I assure you, because you feel all
along there's no way in Hunter a Hunter Brown, there's
no way in force Whitley's thought process. Now you can't
(30:17):
stay there long because if you let it faster, it'll
ruin you. But through all these struggles and everything he's
been through, there's had to be times. This is just
any of us. In all of us, I'm sure that
have been through some doesn't matter if it's in sports
and anything. You sat there in question, especially when it
comes in bunches. Right, you're like again again, am I
ever going to be able to achieve the goal I set?
Am I ever going to be able to be the
(30:38):
best at this, Am I ever going to be able
to do this? And if you labor there, it'll become
a self fulfilling prophecy. So in order to have the
mental toughness, say I can still do it. I can
still do this. I'm gonna get do this injured. I'm
going to get to these questions. I'm going to get
through this because listen, he's been the most talked about
underproductive because of injuries. I don't mean it disrespectful. Prospect. Well,
(31:00):
since I've lived here, nobody's been talked about more and
wondered about more. And there's that how is he going
to turn out? You know, Tucker was for a while,
got his so yor I mean they were up. This
has been a long process where we still don't have
an answer. If last night's any indication for those two innings,
you got a pretty good answer, But there's no way
he didn't question himself along the way. But once again,
(31:22):
you've got to rule that out and you got to
get back to work and say it's got to be
the chip on your shoulder to prove that people were
wrong about you that questioned you, and that the astros
were right about you. By sticking with you through all
this believing you could do what you did last night.
Say it doesn't. The small victories end up being big ones,
you know, the small blessings and small victories, and those
(31:44):
those dubs you got to take along in the way
they say, well is it that big? A yeah for
him and for the organization. You can't help but love
what you saw from him back to back innings. It's
been a minute. I'm sure he felt like he was
back in high school right for at least a minute,
and he was really good. So I'm anxious to see
where this goes. And if that's the springbook, just stay
(32:06):
healthy so we can see him maximize whatever it is
he's he's got for them in the bullpen or what
their plans are for him.
Speaker 6 (32:12):
Well, I mean, and you mentioned Ryan Gusto, a guy
that's pitched himself into an opportunity because he stays. I mean,
it's even when you get Lance mcculler's junior back. You
got that guy back there that maybe you don't want
to stretch McCullers early on, so then you get him
for three four innings and then maybe you're able to
bridge with Gusto there until you're able to get him
kind of ramped up.
Speaker 2 (32:33):
What a luxury it is to have the guy, What
a luxury it is. It's almost like this, I mean,
a younger version, but of like Steve de Berg. I
remember what I played to Burg was a quarterback. He'd
be playing and play well and go to the like
when he was with my guy, Christian McCoy and Barry
Wood in Kansas City, like twenty two touchdowns and four
picks or three picks and the stretch play, you know,
(32:55):
I mean, did the and he'd say, well, Steve Anning
won the job. Then they draft for quarterback. Then he'd
be draft for a first round cornter and he produced.
There was a great player for like it felt like
thirty years. But then they'd move him to somewhere else
and then he'd go play here and go play and
although Whitley stayed here, I mean, Gusto has been a
starter and now bullpen. He gives you the ability to say, oh,
(33:18):
you know the Tyrod Taylor ability too. You know I'm saying,
you know, you know, a younger motive. Oh and go start.
Oh you need me for three starts? I can win
games for you. Oh I got to go to the bullpen.
The versatility. Oh I can do that too. Oh I'm
the starter and now I'm going to be or I'm
a bullpen. I'm coming in and we're waiting, and I
give you a couple of good starts. Oh, you're gonna
move me back because the first round, you know, you know,
(33:39):
I'm saying, well, somebody more published, somebody we've been wait lance,
but Colors to come back, is going to take that
gig and you just go back and do your next role.
What a what a blessing it is to have a
guy who's that versatile and all's force Whitley does is
maximize you and extend you and make everybody else fresher better.
And you can't help if you've been in the organization
(33:59):
since with since forst Whitley's been a part of this organization.
Those guys in there got to be ecstatic for him,
no doubt.
Speaker 6 (34:06):
And I mean able to go out there last night
absolutely take care of business. The loan guy to get
on base, a pass ball that Ianer Diaz unable to corral,
but it still was a strikeout, but then able to
get the very ext when.
Speaker 2 (34:18):
I said nobody got on base, I said, as far
as putting the ball in play right, it was. It
was unfortunate how they got on, but he still got
a strikeout out of it, and he didn't walk anybody
and give up any hits. It was impressive and nowhere
and runs obviously because it was a shutout.
Speaker 6 (34:30):
Yeah, you'd love to see that, guys shovin like that
on a regular basis, for sure. All right, coming up
a couple of different things that connect the Pope to baseball.
We'll discuss that here Shawn Salisbury Show, Sports Talk seven ninety.
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Speaker 6 (35:24):
There was a Rawlings Major League baseball out there with
his signature on it, his autograph on it. How much
would you be willing to fetch that?
Speaker 2 (35:32):
For now? I'm probably the wrong guy to ask, because, hey,
have some respitt I don't know what the pope on
a base I know what the pope on a baseball
does for me? I'm sure it does. I almost feel
sacrilegious making money off the Pope's name on a baseball.
(35:53):
That's fairyh Yeah, that's fair.
Speaker 6 (35:54):
It would be my first thought. Yeah, I mean you
have to answer to Saint Peter.
Speaker 2 (35:57):
You know.
Speaker 6 (35:58):
Hey, you know, by the way, Sean, you paid that money.
You know, we we kind of frown a couple years
a couple thousand years ago. I got a baseball signed
by Jesus Christ. Oh boy, that would that would fetch?
Oh yeah, now we're onto something. But can you imagine, Hey, hey.
Speaker 2 (36:15):
I'm going to sell the the Jesus Christ auto autographed baseball.
He didn't put a number on it just to signed it. Yeah,
I don't think you're selling that because it's like, well,
I don't know. I can't imagine on any scripture that
the Good Lord touched or anything, or any sermon that
(36:36):
he had, whatever was involved, that I would want to
sell it because it almost I can't imagine. Get up
there at the gates and hey, Sean lived a good life,
made a lot of mistakes, but a good heart. And
here you are one thing I have. What'd you get
for that? No, no, he already knows you can't fool
He already knows. It's a rhetorical question. Yeah, yeah, so
(36:58):
make sure you answer right, M seven hundred million. Was
it worth it? It was then, but it isn't now.
You know, what do you say? So my first thought is,
you know, and going back to it, and I don't
mean this disrespectful and being serious. We talk about the
Pope's name on a baseball. Christ's autograph has to be
(37:23):
somewhere right, somewhere somewhere.
Speaker 6 (37:26):
Well, I mean there is a shroud of turin. It's
not necessarily an autograph.
Speaker 2 (37:29):
But you know, you know what I'm saying. I'm just
talking about you said, Hey, man, could you sign this
for me? They had to be somebody that admired him
or they know what the autograph. I know it sounds sacked, right,
you get what I'm saying. Imagine how valuable would be? Well,
I mean you founded on a you know, he's writing down,
you know, things to do that day. Well, technically he
has a book, the book, no doubt. I'm just talking
(37:52):
about the legit. Yeah, I get that book right, But
you know what I'm saying, like on a piece of
paper somewhere that was like a document that some guy
holding up a pockage of independence, but for the Christ,
the Good Lord, right exactly. Hey man, I got a
picture with you, can you sign it? You know what
I'm saying, Sean, they didn't take pictures.
Speaker 7 (38:08):
Man.
Speaker 2 (38:09):
Well the last supper who signed for who's signed for?
The bill comped? Yeah. See, it's like when you have everything,
they don't make you pay. That's it and the Good
Lord quite a quite a bit of bandwidth, right. But
getting back to your question, First of all, I wouldn't
(38:29):
pay anything for it, because now you said, Sean, you
can have this for one hundred dollars. That's legitimately the Pope.
This guy didn't want it, he willed it to you.
Of course, I'm not selling it, even if I if
it was worth one hundred million dollars and maybe the
sum it is, but I wouldn't sell it for the
simple reason I don't know if I could carry around
the well, Shawn, that's weak. Of course you sell it, well,
(38:51):
I'd probably donate it somewhere or you know, you keep
it in a safety deposit box. But I'm not looking
at it. So what good does that do? I don't
I'm not selling it. I would imagine it's worth a
p already penny depending on somebody's love or there with
Pope Francis of of their you know, everybody has a
favorite pope or somebody that they were a little more offen,
or somebody they went and saw. I would imagine for jd. Vance,
(39:12):
if that's the first time meeting the Pope. Yeah, that
that's unfortunately passed away a day later it now, right,
but that would be that would be where you're like, man,
this was special for me. I got to meet him
and quite frankly before he passed away. So I don't
know what. I'm not a big collector of that stuff, man,
I'm just not. I'm sure I got some. I mean
(39:32):
with this, guys who've autographed stuff they would given to
my kids sitting around. I've looked at him certain bats
and stuff and baseballs, and sure there were something. Pete
Rose and those guys who signed stuff for Willie Mays
on a golf scorecard. Yeah, I would imagine. But he said, well,
why'd you do it in the first pace? Well, I could,
and I was it was for my kids. But I
just keep it kind of tucked away. I don't know
(39:54):
what the value if somebody plays value on it, if
it does exist, I would imagine to be really cool
to have, But I couldn't sell it because I almost
feel like that'd be sacrilegious. So I don't know what
good it would do me, so I would I'm not
in the purchase ball for business thing.
Speaker 6 (40:07):
This seems like a low, you know, a purchasing price
sale price for this that, according to TMZ Sports, through
r R auction, it's expected to fetch at least fifteen
thousand dollars. A guy named Randy L. Kaplan, a government
affairs specialist in New York, is famous for getting world
leaders to sign baseball's when they are stepping out of
(40:29):
the un right now.
Speaker 2 (40:32):
Okay, see, I would have thought that the value of
it when you were it is worth five million bucks. Well,
you know, sign anymore? Right, So I would have thought
fifteen thousand. Now you're coming to me, Saint Jean, fifteen thousand,
and you're a collector. I don't think you're putting it
on your shelf next to whatever you're a bible, or
next to other autograph baseballs. And it says Pope Francis,
(40:55):
I would imagine that for fifteen put it this way,
I can guarantee you one thing, the value. If you
are a person that sells it, your value ain't going down.
Fifteen thousand dollars seems reasonable. Think about some of the
things you spend over the course of time of interest alone,
fifteen thousand bucks on it over the course of your life. Said,
what a waste that was?
Speaker 7 (41:11):
Right?
Speaker 2 (41:12):
Yeah, no, I would imagine. I'm not going to stay
in line to pay for a ball like that. But
if somebody said you got it, you're a collector, it
can sit on yourself. And that's Pope Francis. He's not
going to sign anymore. And especially if there's only a
couple of them signed or one. Yeah, I would imagine
you'd pay fifteen grand, but I'm not in the seller
business for it, so I just don't do that.
Speaker 6 (41:31):
Another thing, too, is with Pope France's death yesterday, people
thought for sure that Nick Costianos was going to Homer
and the Phillies played the Mets last night lost five
to four.
Speaker 2 (41:41):
He did not Homer.
Speaker 6 (41:42):
So I guess for unfortunate events happening that are followed
up by Nick nic Coostiano's leaving the yard, we finally
got off of that one. So maybe it's a ton
of respect for the Pope of just saying, hey, you know.
Speaker 2 (41:54):
What's your day? That's it? Yeah, there you go, so
taken away. That's a good point, man, good point. I
don't know. I would you want that ball? Would you
pay fifteen grand for it? If you could make let's
say you could make three payments at five thousand bucks,
would you do it?
Speaker 6 (42:06):
I still couldn't afford it. Yeah, let's say you could
afford it, Oh, if I could probably not. I mean
I think that probably something in more of the arena
of the pope, you know, a Rosary.
Speaker 2 (42:19):
Assigned Bible if But that seems sacrilegious assigned something to
do with his part of the country.
Speaker 6 (42:28):
You know, I don't think that gives out bulletins after Mass,
but if they gave out a bulletin or.
Speaker 2 (42:33):
You know, how you go you go to church, most
have a program of what's lined up for the day,
who's speaking, or what you're going to talk about. Sign
one of those. I guess it'll be fine to putting
a book of remembrance, but when it comes to guys
like that, you're not. I mean, you're talking about guys
that you feel walk and talk with the Lord. I'm
not selling the autograph. No, So better off for me
not to even get it. Because the temptation was so
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he said, dude, you got that autograph, I'll give you
eight million bucks for it. Well, I'm gonna hold off.
It'd be nice, but I'm gonna hold off. It's just
it's like it wouldn't sit well. I would be like, se,
are you sure that there's lightning's not gonna strike you?
You know, it just kind of feels weird to me.
I'm sure some could profit off it, but I'm not
profitent off religion.
Speaker 7 (43:13):
That's just not me.
Speaker 6 (43:15):
You're not wrong to feel that way, Cassidy Brandon. See
all right there, we'll get you all involved in the conversation.
Seven o'clock. How coming up next right here, Shawn Salisbury Show.
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good morning here on the Shawn Salisbury Show. What's going on?
Speaker 2 (44:31):
Hey, good morning guys, how you doing? Good?
Speaker 11 (44:33):
Good to hear from me.
Speaker 12 (44:35):
Hey, just on the vein of Pope Francis and the holiness.
I thought it was interesting twist, maybe a reverse of
all the gifts over the years. Generally, you know, if
you have a private audience with the pope, generally, you know,
sports stars and others will bring.
Speaker 11 (44:46):
Gifts to the Pope.
Speaker 12 (44:48):
And I just thought of a kind of a cool antidote,
a cool story I read in Playboy. Now, of course
I was reading the articles, not that not not of.
Speaker 2 (44:54):
Course, Yeah, yeah, I got Rube Bacon said same thing.
Speaker 12 (44:58):
Yeah, well back in the day when they actually had
photos in there. But it was a great interview by
Mik Piazza, and in there he has a private audience
with Pope John Paul the second and Piazza is Italian Catholic,
and he's winning in Lyne and he has a baseball
bat and he's there for about twenty minutes and as
he's really I mean he's there, he's realizing, you know,
like three months before the popes with Castro and time
in and you know, all these world leaders, and he
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was almost embarrassed about you know what kind of he did,
and bringing a baseball bat, you know, is his poking
to take me seriously? And a priest he started lamenting
with the priest next to him, who outside an audience,
and the priest said, no, absolutely not. Be proud of
your trade and be proud of what you do, and
so he interviewed. Uh he was yet, you know, a
couple of minutes with Pope John the Second introduced himself,
gave him a baseball bat, and at the end Pope
(45:42):
John said that Mike Piazza the baseball player. So I
thought that was a cool ending, a cool story. Be
proud of what you do, no matter who your audience was.
But you guys are talking about autographic baseballs and how
much did it be worth? And it'd be interesting to
know what happened to Mike Piazza's bat, And you know,
MESSI gave Pope Francis a jersey and all over years.
So anyway, it's just kind of reversed and a good story,
(46:03):
but good good topic.
Speaker 2 (46:05):
Thanks guys, great to hear from your brother, appreciate it.
Good to talk to you, Thanks man, great stuff. And
you know what, it's one thing to get something from
the Pope. Now, if the Pope asked you for something,
now that's pretty cool. Huh Mike Piazza bat him, I
think he said, did he say a Messier jersey? Yeah,
I'm messy. Yeah, oh, Lionel Messi. I thought I was
gonna say, well, because Mark Messi won his back in
(46:25):
the day when Messi, when Messier won his Stanley Cup
with the Rangers. Remember it was in the mid nineties
and ninety four maybe ninety three ninety four, when Messier
won the I thought, oh, he said messy, Lionel Messi,
I thought he. I thought, well, why not, why not
give your hockey sweater your mess as well? There you go,
maybe you know, maybe that's where it kind of there
(46:45):
you go. So but yeah, great call, great point by Cassidy.
What a U and something I'm sure you take with
you forever that you never forget when you know someone
that holy is engaged in making sure you're proud of
whatever it is you do. I love it. Well remember
a message.
Speaker 6 (47:00):
I mean you were talking during the break of Michigan
football when Harball was there. He took them overseas and
they got to go to the Vatican, and I remembered
that there was the photo of him giving like a
Michigan football jersey and a helmet, you know, the famous
Michigan helmet to the Poulverine helmet and the Pope kind
of looking at it and being like, the hell is
this like.
Speaker 2 (47:19):
Having for you to keep? You're a Michigan fan, now,
that's it. Yeah, no doubt. Yeah. I can't imagine being
in college and at that point in time back when
we played, when you you know, you couldn't do that stuff.
Were you. I mean to raise but you know what
I'm saying, recruiting advantage whatever they called this stuff. Now,
can you imagine you're a Michigan All of a sudden,
the coach says, Hey, we're gonna have a fun little
team building thing. Yeah, what are we doing, coach? We're
(47:41):
heading to Rome. We're going to the Vatican. Excuse me? Yeah,
what a great That's a nice little summer trip to
go before camp starts. Huh m hmm. Yeah, what a thrill.
So to be able to touch it. And you know
when I say touch it, touch Rome or you know,
Jack del Real called in yesterday and he's sitting there
stair and he just got out of the loop and
was staring at the Eiffel Tower yesterday and I'm thinking, because
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he's coaching in Europe and stuff now and they can
you know what, walk around having coffee, you're staring at
the louver and we're we're right here dealing with the
raid and the wind it when it hit yesterday. So yeah,
I'm I'm really into like the Holy Ground stuff, like
you know, depending on like I understand how moving it
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must be to go to Jerusalem, right or how I
mean I don't understand what I'm saying to hearing from
people who have right the like the transformation. Sometimes it
can take place when you see it, and I would
imagine being around the pope or in one of those
settings would be quite moving, especially if you know you're
God fearing person or if the if the you know,
(48:44):
the pope and the religion has been part of your
life forever. Yeah, well I got to go.
Speaker 6 (48:49):
I got you I have not and you know who
was a huge part to think for me getting to go.
Speaker 2 (48:55):
Mattress Mac. That's it. There's a lot of people in
this town that have to when they say, you know,
I got to think Mattress Mac comes out of their
mouth first, because he's done that to a lot of
people in different ways, in shapes and forms. It's a
good thing.
Speaker 6 (49:06):
So when I was in school at Saint Thomas, he
had paid for four kids and a faculty member from
every school in the diocese to get to go to
Rome on a pilgrimage. And initially we were supposed to
go in the fall, but then nine to eleven happened,
so they decided, hey, maybe world travel for kids is
not a good idea right now, or wait for that matter,
right right right, So then we got to go that
(49:27):
spring and we got to have Mass there at Saint
Peter's Basilica and Bishop Fiorenza celebrated the mass. Initially, I
believe we were supposed to get an audience with the Pope,
but JP two, John Paul the Second was at his retreat.
Speaker 2 (49:43):
Now can you imagine him, He's the one who led
that spiritual meeting. If she was the one standing up
front and the teacher that day, the Pope, No, you'd
remember everywhere you think, yeah, yeah, no doubt. Yeah, I
imagine that was one of your great experiences. That was awesome, awesome.
Shout out Mattress Mack.
Speaker 6 (50:01):
Absolutely, you're the man, always always looking to shout that
guy out.
Speaker 2 (50:04):
Brandon.
Speaker 6 (50:05):
What's up, buddy, how you doing, Brandon, Good morning.
Speaker 1 (50:08):
Good morning, welcome back.
Speaker 2 (50:10):
Thanks Bud. I appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (50:14):
Where did you go yesterday.
Speaker 2 (50:16):
Oh, I was in New Mexico with family, a lot of.
Speaker 1 (50:18):
Fun as the for Easter holidays.
Speaker 2 (50:22):
Yeah, yeah, it was.
Speaker 6 (50:24):
Speaking of pilgrimages, we actually even made a pilgrimage on
Good Friday.
Speaker 2 (50:27):
I'll tell you all about that later. Yeah, what do you
got on these astros?
Speaker 1 (50:34):
Good?
Speaker 11 (50:35):
What do you won that we did?
Speaker 2 (50:37):
How about Hunter Brown? Huh?
Speaker 1 (50:39):
Good? He he walked I think he walked Boyer and
he walked Glady and it's not it was. It was good,
but it was he was fun.
Speaker 2 (50:55):
Yeah, he was. He was more than fun.
Speaker 6 (50:57):
Nine strikeouts, one walk, just a couple of It's one
of those little uh you know, into the bat single
by Springer. But now he was. He was pretty awesome.
That's that's how we want that team to play, right Brandon, Yep,
for sure you're.
Speaker 11 (51:12):
Going there.
Speaker 7 (51:14):
The man.
Speaker 6 (51:15):
Yeah, dude, Yeah, we'll get into that a little bit
later on that that. That was definitely not fun to
watch on Sunday, Brandon for sure.
Speaker 7 (51:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (51:25):
Who who's pitching today? Is it Blanco against?
Speaker 2 (51:30):
Uh?
Speaker 6 (51:31):
Today? It is Renel Blanco. You're not wrong, it is
Renel Blanco.
Speaker 1 (51:37):
How are you playing Wednesday?
Speaker 2 (51:39):
Yeah, they're gonna play Wednesday.
Speaker 6 (51:40):
Uh, the Uh, it's a little bit of an earlier
start tomorrow, it's six forty tomorrow, but tonight the normal
start time.
Speaker 1 (51:49):
Lucky eyes, I can go a bit ear.
Speaker 6 (51:52):
There, you go, Yeah, go go a little bit early,
enjoy yourself and pull him through to all win.
Speaker 2 (51:57):
Let's let's win two in a row again, Brandon.
Speaker 1 (52:01):
Yeah, not like Sunday when we try some mons then.
Speaker 2 (52:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (52:10):
Yeah, Now it's much better to score seven than just two.
That's that's for sure. Good to hear from your Brandon.
You got it, buddy, Yeah, that's much much better this
time around. You mentioned, uh, what was it Steve Sparks earlier?
How about that on Sunday Night Baseball getting a nice
little shout out from the National crew.
Speaker 2 (52:30):
What was at ravi?
Speaker 7 (52:33):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (52:33):
Edward?
Speaker 6 (52:37):
Yeah, they showed him in there, and I was like,
look at Sparky. Happy to see that for him. Yeah,
so always love that. All right, coming up, if you
get eaten by this animal, you're you're probably dead. Well
there's not only that, but science will tell you you're
an idiot. We'll talk about that right here. Sean Salisbury Show, The.
Speaker 2 (52:58):
Shawn Salisbury continues in.
Speaker 11 (53:01):
Need to no No, Now, you know.
Speaker 2 (53:08):
All right, Sean, what are you hearing out there now?
Speaker 10 (53:11):
The Salisbury stakeouts, Salisbury's takeout on the.
Speaker 2 (53:16):
Sean Salisbury Show. It is Sean Salisbury Show.
Speaker 6 (53:23):
Sports Sox seven ninety Astros seven to nothing winners last
night against the Blue Jays, Rockets Game two Western Conference
Playoffs against the Warriors tomorrow night. They're down one to
zero in the series and the NFL Draft starts Thursday.
Texans set to pick twenty fifth overall. All Right, Sean,
Alligator attacks, I mean, these are animals we have to
(53:43):
worry about in this area of the country because I mean,
maybe it's you know, you're near a by or you're
on a golf course set's near one of those said waterways,
and you'll have the signs out there to say beware
of alligator. Well, did you know that if you get
attacked by one that researchers in a published study that
(54:05):
is in a journal called a Human Wildlife Interactions, which
I'm pretty interested to read that now that I know
that something like this exists, found that ninety six percent
of recorded alligator attacks involved either a human who was
not paying attention to their surroundings or did something risky
that prompted the attack.
Speaker 2 (54:25):
I e.
Speaker 6 (54:26):
Scientists are telling you in this journal that if you
get attacked by an alligator, guess what, buddy, it's your fault.
Speaker 2 (54:34):
Yeah, I don't understand, Like you see it on the
golf course a lot, or you see it in you know,
on videos and viral videos. Is what kind of idiot
do you have to be? Unless you're an alligator? You
know they do do it to move alligators back in,
or say, unless you're experienced and how to trap them
and do the things to release them where they belong, right,
(54:57):
not kill them, release them to where they can live
their life. How stupid do you got to be to
go toy with one like that? And they're quicker than
hell too. I don't know how quick hell is, but
I would imagine you're trying to go through there as
quick as you can if it's hot. Yeah, you don't
want you don't want to stick and stay, that's right.
I just don't know the last thing I'm doing. You know,
(55:19):
it's the same as like, oh, there's a pile of
rattler snakes, why don't you just go sit down and
carry on a meal and eat in front of them?
I mean, know, you can't be that dumb, right, Well,
it's like, what was it the cobras we were talking
about that, Yeah, training cobras. Yeah, at some point you
got to actually get in there and train the cobra. Well, now,
I know you may have the big old suit on
in case they bite you. You get to a point where, okay,
I got them controlled. And you're in there with fifty
(55:40):
of them, and you know, you've seen the videos and
the guys sitting there training like and you're hitting them.
You're you're you're toying them with a stick, you know,
like as you're that's how you guide them. I'm thinking,
what happens one of them has had a bad day,
that's it. It only takes one, that's right. It takes
one of them just to say the hell with this?
All right, I'm not your dancing, That's exactly right. I'm
not you're not that's exactly right. So it's the same
(56:01):
thing here, man, I don't know if you do it now.
I think it's intriguing. I like to look and when
you see him, like you know, if you've played golf
in Florida or and you see him hell over by
my house there there they're sitting in they must be.
They got him in there obviously to keep the place
clean and stuff obviously, right, and they put him in
there on purpose in the little man made legs. But
(56:21):
you start to look around. I'll love to observe from
a distance, but I'm not getting close. Get a toy
with it with a five iron and like tap it
because they're quicker. Okay, And you know what, there's ways
that I can I can control not having half my
arm chomped off. I think I'll probably do it. And
these guys who toy with them on the golf course,
(56:42):
you know we're actually invading their space. So let's let's
make sure we stay away. Yeah, there's things I'm not
afraid of much, but when it I mean, I'm probably
pretty stupid when it comes out. But I'm never toying
with snakes, or with a brown bear, or or with
an alligator. And like you talking about the I'm not
going up and like tapping him on his back when
(57:02):
I got a five arm because he's close to me
on the golf course.
Speaker 3 (57:05):
No.
Speaker 2 (57:06):
Right, there's there's smarter things to do that ain't one
of them. There is a most recent ring doorbell? Then
will they not bother you if you don't bother them,
Is that basically would scientist?
Speaker 6 (57:16):
Yeah, that's that's that's a good way to go. But
there's a ring doorbell video that's floating out there right now.
A couple of alligators I think this was in Florida.
I probably was after a storm or something made their
way up to the house. Yeah, and that not only
made its way up to the house, but one of
the alligators actually got up and rang the ringing doorbell
and was like kind of like in like the camera
(57:37):
view for a second, then went back down to the
ground and was walking around, looked inside the window. Two
of probably thinking like, way too human life. This seems
like it's got food in there. Yeah, you know, let's
get these people out of here, and let's let's take
over the house.
Speaker 2 (57:53):
As much as I'd like to invite you in for
a meal, it's probably not gonna happen. No, probably probably
not gonna happen. But the fact that they know they
know how to rig a doorbell and look into your window,
that ain't the first time it's happened.
Speaker 6 (58:05):
Let's put it that way. They're walking familiar, Yes, they're
walking dinosaurs. There's a reason why these things. Like everybody
looks to roaches as being the ones that stick around,
which god man, roach bastards hate those things. But anyway, alligators,
there's a reason why they They were the ones that
stuck around, and t Rex and everybody else went by bye.
Speaker 2 (58:22):
And much respect to them. But you talk about stuff
that you can't get rid of, have you ever, Like
like you'll have a mosquito and you'll grab it and
you'll hit it and you think it's done yep, and
all of a sudden you can't kill them, and then
they all of a sudden pop up and fly away again.
It's like, dude, I just whacked you with a towel,
Oh okay, and yeah, yeah, I whacked you with a machete. Yeah,
(58:43):
I pitch you with a baseball battle of you know what?
You just you know, you try to get ones flying
around your house, right, but they get in and it's like,
I couldn't hit you any harder with it? How did
you get up and fly away? Resilience? Man, I'm not
I can mess with a with a mosquito. I am
messing with no alligator.
Speaker 6 (59:00):
I was gonna say, I I I see a creepy
Crawley start going across the floor right there the shoe
comes out.
Speaker 2 (59:06):
Ye see, I'm the guy like, like, would you really
make sure you like if you like, for instance, let's
say you had a a caterpillar in your house. You're
gonna kill her, You're gonna put it outside.
Speaker 6 (59:17):
Probably just grab like a sheet of paper, so flinging
out in the York lady bug right, which is good.
Speaker 2 (59:23):
Yeah, wish there you go. Okay, just making sure if
I can preserve it. I know that sounds cheesy, but
I'm one of those guys like, now you're a mosquito
or a fly, like a spiders, it got to go, bud. Yeah.
Speaker 6 (59:36):
The funniest thing is is roaches were the ones that
for me for for the longest time, and they have
here in certain parts of you they haven't here boy,
and they're big, dude. They got they got their own
central nervous system about three different parts of their body.
Every single year, I kill like the first one of spring.
I'm like, these things get larger and they're gonna be
the size of small dogs.
Speaker 2 (59:55):
Yeah, don't want to that. Somebody's gonna be walking in
on a leash. Gross. Yeah, they're the worst. Just discussed.
Speaker 6 (01:00:03):
And the funny thing is, you know they tell you, oh,
you know, they're they're relatively harmless. I'm like, well, he
just said relatively, so there's still some wiggle room right there.
Speaker 2 (01:00:11):
Yeah, but then there's something dirty about having one run
across your chest while you're asleep. Yeah, stay out of
the crib. Oh god, stay out of the crib. No,
like stay clean, So they stay away.
Speaker 6 (01:00:25):
Well, it's not only that, it's also you know, you've
got a group of people over one runs by because
the big ones, you know, the exterminators will tell you, hey, look,
there's not much you can do about that.
Speaker 2 (01:00:35):
Now.
Speaker 6 (01:00:35):
I once lived in an apartment and I thought that
it was all right, there's something we're not doing right,
and the exterminators said, no, it's probably one of your neighbors. Honestly,
he goes, that's how these happen. And it was the
small ones that we had. Yeah, and and not good.
But then I remembered once I remembered those lines because
I got some of their mail and I went and
dropped it off, and I didn't see inside too much,
(01:00:58):
but I saw enough and smelled enough, I'll see to
realize that. I was like, yeah, the exterminator wasn't wrong.
Speaker 2 (01:01:04):
There is no Yeah, there's normals. Whence when somebody's a
little bit dirtier, it'll flow over to you. Yeah, get
rid of the big ass probm you left on the ground.
They get big enough to eat the burger themselves. Plait
it up. Okay, I mean it.
Speaker 6 (01:01:18):
And it's almost kind of to a point right there
where it's twofold.
Speaker 2 (01:01:21):
It's number one.
Speaker 6 (01:01:22):
Do I go to the leasing office and be like, hey, look,
I'm not telling you how to tell people how to
live their lives, but the way that they're living their
life is starting to affect me. And then the other
one is, well, then you know, that's the beauty of
not having to rent anymore, because if it happens to you,
well then that's on you. Yeah, you're your fault and
you got to fix it. You don't have to worry
about parking spaces anything else.
Speaker 2 (01:01:42):
But the key is, yeah, don't don't antagonize alligators. Is
the moral of the story. Ye know where you are?
Know where you are? What is uh?
Speaker 6 (01:01:50):
What does he may you doka say? KYP know your personnel?
That's exactly You're on the golf course like I had
one a few years ago. Know your strengths and weaknesses,
and one of your strengths isn't going to be out
running one of the he's yeah, yeah, you know, Tommy
Teeth has four legs. I got two, no thanks. Once
playing golf at Sunset Grove Country Club in uh In, Orange, Texas,
(01:02:12):
and on the eighteenth hold, they have a sign that
says be where a valigator. Well, my ball was probably
about fifteen yards from the water, and I saw in
front of me. What I thought was like, you know
how like they'll dig irrigation ditches to put in like
a sprinkler system or something like that.
Speaker 2 (01:02:28):
That's what I thought it was.
Speaker 6 (01:02:30):
Right before I was about to address that, my dad said, hey,
look in front of you, and sure enough turned it
right around looking at me, and I said, you know
what this ball we call that, pop it up, hit it,
you know, grab it. I'm going to take a drop
on the other side. Clean place. Yeah, find another spot. Yeah, yeah,
I was gonna say. I was not going to let
(01:02:51):
the Florida Gator mascot get after me that day because
we were going with an LSU game that night.
Speaker 2 (01:02:55):
So I think he knew. I think he knew what
what was a gator bait or I didn't want to Yeah,
there you go.
Speaker 6 (01:03:01):
Yeah, so I decided to be neither at that time. So, uh,
sometimes it's best to just go ahead and take the drop.
On the other side, take the penalty, lose a limb.
You're not getting paid to win, to be your dad
in golf. Maybe a little slut side bit, but it's
worth keeping your forearm. I was gonna say, I was
gonna say, you can play the next half. Yeah, I
don't want to be able to do that. I don't
want to turn into chubbs say so. Moral of the
(01:03:22):
story here, don't be an idiot. And if you do
get attacked by nalligator, well, science will tell you you
are an your fault.
Speaker 2 (01:03:28):
That's it. That's it for sure.
Speaker 6 (01:03:30):
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fifth overall. But is there a really loud voice in
the building now when it comes to who they could
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Speaker 6 (01:05:43):
For the players as workouts getting underway over there at
NRG Stadium. It sounds like pretty much one hundred percent attendance.
Didn't know of anybody that wasn't there. But you had
a lot of different people at the podium talking and
as usually the case, I mean, you want to ask
about the guys that you add, you want to ask
about the guys that you lost, you want to ask
(01:06:03):
about you know, who are you really excited to see
developed this year? All of those different types of things.
But then also the draft questions will start flowing and
the Texans a lot of people are pretty convinced it
is going to be offensive line. I'm one of those.
I think most of us are in that same category.
It's just who is that going to be? But we're
(01:06:24):
going to start off first with Will Anderson Junior. I
think we can agree he's pretty well thought of in
that building now, right, He's played well, He's a guy
that's kind of thought of as being a team leader,
all of these different things. Well, one of his former
Alabama teammates is somebody that the Texans could possibly be
looking at, and who knows, if you believe what Adam
Schefter said, could be aggressive to move up and maybe
(01:06:44):
that's what you would have to do to get Tyler Booker.
But Anderson asked about Booker yesterday, and let's just say
a glowing endorsement flowed from the Texans star pass rusher.
Speaker 13 (01:06:57):
I think he has all the attributes you need to
play offensive line position. He's a maler, he loves to
finish the blocks on his leadership, stills, his mentality. He
wants to be the best, and he's really hard on himself.
And you know, I'm kind of the same way. And
that's what builds you up, that's what makes you know
who you are. And he has all those things, man,
And I can't say enough good things about him.
Speaker 7 (01:07:17):
Man.
Speaker 13 (01:07:17):
And wherever you end up, he's gonna change that team,
change that program, and change the offensive line for sure.
Speaker 6 (01:07:23):
Change the offensive line for sure. Sean, a few weeks ago,
when Tamiko orians was at the league meetings, what did
he talk about with the offensive line? That a huge
reason why the Laramie Tunsel trade was made and some
of the moves were made. Well, we've got to change
the way we do business around with that group because
clearly what we've been doing had not been working.
Speaker 2 (01:07:41):
And a guy who knows.
Speaker 6 (01:07:42):
Him well, Will Anderson Junior speaking him up and saying, hey,
that's a guy that can come in here and change
some things.
Speaker 2 (01:07:48):
Yep.
Speaker 6 (01:07:49):
That feels like to me that if Nick Cassiio, Hey,
we're thinking of Booker and if he's anywhere around there,
then we're thinking of going that they would listen to
Will Anderson and say, this guy knows what winning football
looks like and he's proven it here and he also
played with the guy, so we know that he knows
what that guy brings.
Speaker 2 (01:08:07):
Yeah, and you And the truth is, the scouts and
everybody will know what kind of player he is. I mean,
if they've done their due diligence. I don't need Will
Anderson to tell me he's a player. If I'm scouting him,
it's nice to hear. It's the other stuff. What kind
of guys here in the locker room as a teammate
when you're winning, when you're losing, the little things that
the guys that only the fellas that are hanging around
him all the time can see, is he you know?
(01:08:28):
I always want to know is a guy just a
complain or where he constantly complaining? You know, one of
those guys I'd want to know that, especially if I'm
investing a first round picking to somebody. So but when
Will Anderson's given him that kind of praise, I mean
even saying to the point where he'll change the offensive
line no matter where he goes that that that means
the guys is a magnet towards and a leader by
(01:08:50):
just doing the right thing right and playing hard, which
is obvious you should, but playing smart and being a
good football player and a great leader. And so if
that's what you get up front, and if there's a
bit of an ass him, I'd want to know that too.
If there is, I guess i'd see it in his play.
So my question is worse he projected to go.
Speaker 6 (01:09:08):
Jonathan Jones, one of the most recent mock drafts, I
had said seventeen to the Cincinnati Bengals.
Speaker 2 (01:09:14):
I was going to say in the mid teens, jumping
up would be in the thirteen to twelve range. Fallen
would be in the eighteen to twenty twenty one range. Right,
And now you're starting to tease the Texans, right. I
think in order to get him, you're going to have
to move. And you watch him play. I mean, we've
all seen him play and we watched the program. He's
(01:09:35):
a hell of a player and a pretty dominant player,
So I don't think you're going to be I don't
think you can sit there and get him. If you're
going to get the lineman you want, especially if he's
on the exterior, meaning a tackle, you're probably going to
have to move up. Now. The question is, like a
guy like Gray's Abel, who's an interior linement at North
Dakosta State, good football player is the small school or
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which most people don't care about.
Speaker 7 (01:09:59):
Now.
Speaker 2 (01:09:59):
I know we've talked about it. Hey, if all things
being equal, I want the gu who played against Alabama
and LSU then played against maybe smaller schools, just because
if everything's equal. But I don't know if you're going
to get that. That's why the wide receiver continues to
loom with me in that position, because if you're going
to stay there, the question for me has to be, Okay,
will the best lineman you want be available? And then
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you have to decide is the fifth or sixth or
seventh best lignement better than the third or fourth receiver? Right,
that's for you, and that's you got to decide, because
I'll be absolutely shocked. Now on their board they say
they don't draft due to need, it's best player available.
I'll be surprised if they stay there and draft the
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defensive player. Now, if the defensive player is their best
player available and they live by what they say, then
I guess you pull that trigger. I just can't fathom
that they're not staying on the offensive side of the
ball with that first pick, whether it's a move up
and get or whether it's to stay there and grab alignment.
That maybe not be your top one, but you can
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still get a good one. The question is what's your desire.
What's the difference between the third guard and the first
guard in your mind? I'm talking about in their value,
not mine and yours and theirs, because we don't get
to make the pick. Is the evaluation the one between
one and three. If I get the third gap twenty five,
I'm just as good as the guy at fifteen who
got taken first as an offensive guard or whoever, or
on the tackle thing you got. You've got to start
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to weigh what's the gap between the two and is
the gap between the third receiver and the first receiver
closer than the fifth lineman in the first lineman. Those
are things you've got to go through, and then who's
going to impact your team, not only immediately but over
the next three or five years and parlaying it out,
what kind of player will he be then as opposed
to just now, has he maxed his potential? Have we
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seen his best football? I think it's one of those
two positions, meaning now when you say two, it's really
three tackle guard, interior lineman, a perimeter offensive lineman that's
on a tackle spot, or a wide receiver slot tighten
that group. I think we all have our desires and
guys that are close to camp miss and you know,
there's a couple of guys to me. I don't know
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if it guarantee exists in sports, but like in this draft,
how does and I've said this, how does Travis Hunter
not be? How does he miss? How does he? How
does he miss? And Todd mcshah and I were talking
on another show I do and I said. He said,
the seven or eight guys, if you're just talking best
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football players, would go before a Shador Sanders or at
Jackson Dart that that obviously cam Ward's going to be
at the top of that list, he said, But and
he mentioned, like a guy like Ashton Genty who was
running back, we shy away from him high, but he
said every general manager he's talked to to a man
said the dudes different. So my point is, you know
that about a guy like that, right? Best of ay,
(01:12:48):
you know that about a guy that is is a
guy that you think you can go to the guarantees
and draft and see that's what I like Marvin Harrison.
I don't see how Marvin Harrison missed. I mean, how
you could ever miss when you drafted him? Right when
Nelson came out, I was like, how do you miss? Now?
I said the same and those two I picked. I
said the same thing about Pitts from Florida and so far,
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well potential, it hasn't hit. I looked at him, I said,
how does this guy not? How do you miss with
him in this draft? Who is that guy? Is it? Gent?
Who's like You're like, I don't know how he's not
even if he's average, he feels like he's going to
be a really good player. And then you've got to
ask yourself. For you it's not only who has the
potential to be the best, but what's the risk with
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the reward? You know, there's a lot of guys big potential,
but there's also risks that follow them with my offensive
line at twenty five, I don't need a risk. It's
got to be a guy plug in who's a guard
or a tackle, who you know I'll see you in
twenty twenty thirty six. That's what you want it to be, right,
even at twenty five. But if you're going to get
the guy who's the guarantee, the safe pick, but close
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to guarantee, that listen, unless he misses the team bus,
he's going to be a good player. Do you got
to trade up and get him? And then And I
don't want to say settle at twenty five, but I
don't think with their assets to get the guy they want,
I don't think they're waiting at twenty twenty four. Now
all of a sudden rolls in eighteen or nineteen and
they're sitting there and they're like, look at the teams
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in front of them, saying they've got other aspirations. Then
you may steal one at twenty five. But to get
the guy you want as an offensive lineman, I think
you're gonna have to go up higher unless the guy
exables there's a good player, But you still take the
risk of a smaller school thing, right, the competition, but
that's when the receiver comes into which one gives you
the better chance at succession. I don't see how you're
drafting somebody on the defensive side with this pick.
Speaker 6 (01:14:38):
If the Texans do take Will Anderson Junior up on
what we just heard him say, remember what you're going
to hear next, because it's gonna make a ton of sense.
We'll do that right here. Sean Salisbury Show.
Speaker 8 (01:14:49):
This is the Sean Salisbury Show. Salesa show that's dootiful.
Speaker 6 (01:14:56):
People have asked Nick Cassio about, so, you know, just
player involvement and just their input in terms of drafting players.
But you just heard Will Anderson Junior talk up Booker
right there, and Tamiko Ryans just ay asked about scouting players,
and you know how much he's improved at that throughout
his coaching career. And take a listen to this because
(01:15:17):
if the Texans do go Booker's route on Thursday, remember
back to what Demiko Ryans has to say right here.
Speaker 14 (01:15:24):
Wish I could see more Will Anderson's that makes it
a lot easier. But I see a guy who works
as hard as he works, and it shows up, you know,
on the film and just the person that he is.
You see guys that way. That makes it a lot
easier to scout with him.
Speaker 6 (01:15:40):
So I think of will Anderson Junior. It makes my
job a lot easier when you see how hard that
guy works.
Speaker 2 (01:15:47):
Sean.
Speaker 6 (01:15:48):
Yeah, I mean, if it comes down to it of hey,
who do we really like right here? Well, remember what
Anderson Junior told us. I mean, the guy's got respect
in that building. The guy is somebody that they leave,
is going to be somebody that can help take them
to the next level. If they come to him and say, hey,
we're really thinking about making a hard push for Booker
and he said what he said yesterday and he believes that.
(01:16:10):
You think that's going to carry some weight inside that building.
Speaker 2 (01:16:12):
Yeah, it does. But how much player empowerment do you want?
He's a former teammate. If he was saying it about
a Georgia player that he had to block, that he
had to deal with, Let's say he was playing against
Sure or an LSU player or a Southern col player,
would it hold more waiter?
Speaker 7 (01:16:24):
Is it?
Speaker 2 (01:16:24):
Of course he likes him. It's a former teammate. Now
I give you I'm tom him just being the Devil's advocate, right,
I definitely for me. If the guy mirrors what Will
Anderson does, of course you want him on your team.
And you're probably thinking if we don't trade up, obviously
somebody's going to see what Will seeson what everybody sees.
A guy can play. He's a mid round for mid
first round or upper first round, mid teens pick. But
(01:16:49):
you also got to be judicious and what you hear
and still do your own homework, right, I'm all about
players giving me insight. I'm not letting a player draft
a player. If that's the case, put on a coat
and tire or a golf shirt and come out up
and study twelve hours of film a day, and then
we can make the choice. He saw him, so yes,
why wouldn't I I'm an information guy, meaning the more
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information I got on something, that's the analytics or the
game plan or the tendencies you find. Oh, on third
and seven they blitzed eighty percent of the time. I'm
probably going to call a blitzpeeder as a coordinator, right,
and then we'll adjust from there. It's just, you know,
it's common sense. So with the common sense of it, Yeah,
because of all of a sudden I say, man, I
(01:17:30):
love him, Will What do you think? Yeah, he's good
bad practice player and a bad attitude. And while he
looks good on tape, and he'll mal he's a good player,
but you're gonna deal with the big headache the whole time.
Now do you want that information?
Speaker 11 (01:17:44):
Now?
Speaker 2 (01:17:44):
You guys say, okay, let me go find this out
for myself. If three or four people there's smoke and
there's fire, then you say, okay, that guy's maybe not
for our culture, even though he's the hell of a player.
So those are the things I'm looking for those seconds.
I don't need Will Anderson. I'm talking about me too.
I don't need Will anders Did tell me how good
the guys I've seen him, and I'll watch the tape
and if I'm the GM or the head coach, I've
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seen it a million times. I watch what he does
on I've watched maybe you've gone to spring practice and
watched him work, or talked to you know Saban or
talk to the you know Caleb de Bor and Kaylyn
de boor should I say, and got that taken care
of and then you talk to the players. Of course,
I want all the information I get, especially when I'm
investing that kind of money in the future, and they
missed on Kenyan Green so far. Now the Eagles may
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capitalize on Kenny Green, but didn't work here, so you
don't want to miss on that. But yes, player empowerment,
no players deciding. If C. J. Stroud comes to me
and said, I love a Bookie, got to draft him. Now,
if it works and he fits in and does, I'm
still going to be my I'll take that because well,
he threw the ball to him right or was there
and part of it and saw it. But I'm not
giving player empowerment where the players the deciding factor. The
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player's part of the factor of all the study we're doing.
And when I hear it from a quality and class
guy who works and Will Anderson basically saying he's without
saying it, that he's basically me without me saying he's me,
I'll say it for him then, of course. But I
would imagine they knew that the alls it is is
an exclamation point in a validation stamp when Will Anderson
tells them what they probably already knew about the player.
Speaker 6 (01:19:11):
Well, I mean, and for a lot of the things
you were talking about, it's mostly from college coaches, right,
you get that absolutely. Like remember when Gidevian Clowney was
coming out, Steve spurriy Er said, yeah, his work ethic
was okay, and people were like, come on, man, how
are you going to say that about your guy? The
point is, well, if I don't tell you the truth
about the guy, then my reputation's on the line.
Speaker 2 (01:19:31):
Listen, and I just use it in I've had it happen,
and in a smaller term, but how I'm one hundred
percent with you on this. Is it train a quarterback
maybe once or twice. Maybe he traveled to you from
out of state, which just happened, or I've traveled to
them from out of state, or they're here and they're
they're they're playing. I've had this happen where they're playing
two sports and then they take a lot of You
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train him twice, and then they get into that select
baseball or another sport whatever it is, lacrosse, I don't care.
Or they trove and then four month by five months
go by and they haven't trained. The season starts, you said,
you know, probably stay on it a little more, and
then six more months go by, and then next the
following spring, you've trained him twice, you haven't seen him,
and you haven't worked him in eight months or names
because they got busy, and then it's recruiting time and
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they want you to send a ringing endorsement to a
Division I school. And here's my thing. I love the kid.
Two times ain't enough for me to tell you. I'll
watch the tape, but working with me for me to
go out there and say, can't miss he's a powerful guy.
You grab him now. If it's automatic, they'll know that anyway.
But if they're relying on me to give him the truth.
And I've told parents this, I said, don't don't call
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me after one session and a year later and say, hey,
could you help my kid get recruited? You trained him once? Yeah,
I train him once. And if you want me to
tell you what I trained him wants, my message would be, well,
he came once, we worked, but decided not to come back.
So what kind of work ethic does he have?
Speaker 3 (01:20:54):
Hock?
Speaker 2 (01:20:55):
Can you paid me for it and you're still not
using him? And what does that tell you? Or they
just so there is absolutely no doubt when it's the
same thing here. If you're Steve spurry and you said,
great work ethic on the practice field, and he doesn't.
You're doing yourself and your team in the team future
and quite frankly clowney at the service and the credibility
is more important though, Like I said, Economy, I'm not
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recommending a Division three player for a Division I school
if I've seen him once. Now, if he's a division
get recruited by Division two. But I've seen him. Say,
let me tell you something. I got a quarterback who
went to Katie. I'm just telling you, and it's Caleb Koger,
and he undersized. His dad's a big dude, love him,
been training him for three years or whatever. He went
to Katie High, winner, won a state championship, and a
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little bit undersized. He goes there as a walk on,
preferred walk on at his school, plays his ass off
and is going to be the starter. I told people
from day why. I said, if the guy was six
two right now, you wouldn't be able to stay off him. Competitive,
underrated thrower, didn't throw a lot because they run the
ball at Katie a lot. I said, he's a hidden gym. Well,
I'll be damned. They went and found it and it
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wasn't because me, because the kid put his time in mean,
you can see it now. Work with him a lot.
I wouldn't have been able to see that after one
thing other than watch him on tape, and then I
can give you some insight like, yeah, have trained this
kid will grind, and I'm telling you there's nothing you're
gonna do to be able to stop him from being
a good player if you give him a chance. He's
the guy you leave your glove out on the mound.
He comes out and picks it up. And the guy
they recruit and gets the scholarship to never gets the
(01:22:18):
job back. But you got to see him on in credibility.
So when you see the credibility of these coaches and
it's on the line, I would prefer, if I'm an
NFL coach to your college coach, tell me the truth
because if you don't, ain't coming back to you, because
then how can I trust you. So I would imagine
Will Anderson understands his reputation coaches when he says the
guy can work, and he's and he'll move people, and
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you love him and he makes an offensive line better,
that's got to hold some weight. Yes, even though he's
not gonna draft it because of it. It may be
the final validation you need to say he's on the board.
It's us versus a guy who went to South or
North Dakota State. We're not sure. We don't talk to
anybody who played with him, will lean there. Yeah, it
happens every day.
Speaker 6 (01:22:58):
Your order is your bond, and you can't teach what
you just bringing up right there with the quarterback. I mean,
these are things that you either have it or you don't,
and the Texans are hoping they find a guy that
can be able to have those attributes on Thursday coming
up though, speaking of things you can't teach, well, you
hope that it's learned for the Rockets when it comes
to Game two because if it's not well, then things
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Speaker 6 (01:26:06):
Rockets Game two Western Conference Playoffs coming up tomorrow nights
over at Toyita Center. They're down one oho in the series.
In the first round of the NFL Draft coming up
on Thursday, Texans set to pick twenty fifth. We've been
getting into a lot of the Texans in the last
couple of segments Astros, which will we've back in the
conversation here as the show goes along. But the Rockets,
(01:26:28):
I know that you and Gordy yesterday Sean talked a
lot about that performance on Sunday night, which I didn't
really have a chance to talk about it much. You know,
I mean, I've done it on social media everything else.
But since I was out yesterday, I just felt like
we were watching a team on Sunday that kind of
just felt like, Oh, eventually, we'll get this thing back
on track. It you know, we're just a better team
(01:26:50):
than the other team. You know, they're gonna start missing shots,
they're gonna do all these different things, and it was
less about what they can do and more about what
they weren't doing in that game, because I mean, you're
just watching that.
Speaker 2 (01:27:02):
And you're just like, how the hell is this happening
right now?
Speaker 6 (01:27:05):
It almost kind of to me felt like arrogance like
in that game, like where it was, Oh, these guys
have no business running us off the floor. Well guess
what the reality is they're doing it. So what are
you going to do about it to try to be
able to take back control of this game?
Speaker 2 (01:27:19):
Well, you lose, you go down to zero and go
on the road talking rockets. That's a hard place to
go win. They're not coming back here. If that happens,
well it'll be very difficult to get back. You'll get back,
but it'll be with you're looking forward to twenty twenty.
At the very most, you're not winning this series if
you go down to them. There's no doubt. I mean
(01:27:40):
I would you'd be a heavy bet against it. Those
those odds are and it's not exactly like you're going
playing a team who doesn't know how to win in
these moments and they defend you as well. We talk
about defense. All the great offenses that they've had at
Golden State every time they win a championship. They're prettydamn
good defense. When they won the seventy plus games. I
think they metrics wise and satistically best defense in the NBA,
(01:28:03):
and they've been There's a direct correlation. There, just is,
and it goes to football and baseball as well. Can't
be a crappy ass defense with no pitching and win
a championship. You can't be a crappy ass defense in football.
You'll score a lot of points. Ask usc what that
felt like. We'd score forty and get beat forty four
to forty. Couldn't get off the field defensively, and so
you could score with anybody score from the parking lot,
but they could score from their home and so you
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just can't in this case if you don't shoot free throws. Well,
what a common theme free throws? Now they defended, they
did a nice shot, But the problem is you can
defend and Steph still get them in bunches. Would he
end up with thirty one? I think yeah. And I'm
just going to tell you whether we like it or not.
One of the great and this happens every time Jimmy
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goes somewhere new. One of the great gets and smart
gets by Golden State. Their ability to see stuff that
others don't is another. Whether you like them or not,
they just do. Because they were left for dead. Pretty cool.
We thought it's time to rebuild, right it would, And
then all a sudden they've regathered themselves and adding Jimmy
and getting to play and Steph playing like a young man.
This team, this is one of those men. Aren't they
(01:29:10):
better than? How should they be the higher seed? You
get my point. They kind of paced themselves and got
hot at the right time, and now they're in and
they're dangerous and they can shoot in Jimmy Butler is
a force. But your second guy can't score seven or nine,
or he can't go one for six beyond the arc,
or three of sixteen or three of thirteen. You just
can't do it. They are gonna and I said going
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into the series, the guy coming out of this series,
if they're gonna win the series, me and the Rockets,
Shen Gouon's gonna be the MVP of the series. I
think he can continue to dominate. But as you saw,
he can get his if somebody else ain't getting theirs
on this team, which were used to it being Dylan
Brooks one night, if Van Vliet another, and then Amen
Thompson and then Jalen Green, somebody's got to rear their
(01:29:54):
head because one for two meaning Shen Gouon for those
two guys who are the two best players in the series,
they just are Stephan and Butler Shan Gun's are a
rising star and we already know what the Cambidy, what
Jalen Green and this team can bring. But it's got
to be sustained because you lose and don't get back
to make free throws, which they didn't do. They dominated
(01:30:16):
the backboards by double digits, so they did the things
that the culture part of udoka. But if you can't
knock down threes and Steph gets thirty and your number
two doesn't get his meaning score whoever the number two
was supposed to be in that game, you're not beating
Golden State, and you're sure as hell not going on
the road and beating them. If you're down to under
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those circumstances, they got to make free throws, and they've
got to have a deeper effort meaning not that they
didn't play hard, a deeper effort on the offensive end,
meaning they've got to have two or three guys. You know,
it's got to be twenty eight, twenty four nineteen type
of thing for them to stay in this. Jalen Green,
one of those guys you mentioned. He plays like he
did on Sunday Night, this series is over. Oh there's
(01:30:59):
no question, because I mean it is almost kind of
to me. And Van Vleet shoots like.
Speaker 6 (01:31:02):
He did, but it shouldn't come to Van Vleet, Like
that's the thing with people that I don't be a facilitator,
not a score I get it.
Speaker 2 (01:31:08):
But if it gets to the point where he's a
facilitator and has to take over some scoring touse somebody
else and shoots like that, this team won't win because
you get you're getting and you're doing something that's out
of your comfort zone. And that's the thing is I mean,
I've said it numerous times and I will continue to
say it as long as this team is playing basketball
this season. Jalen Green scores, this team wins. And it's
(01:31:29):
just too many times that you have these inconsistent performances
like you had the other night where you just kind
of look at him and say, hey, buddy, like you know,
high lottery pick all of these different things like when
did the results start to show up? Kate Gunningham.
Speaker 6 (01:31:42):
Last night the Detroit Pistons, they hold off the Knicks
and win that game, Like, that's what you have to
have out of this guy talking about.
Speaker 2 (01:31:50):
In postseason, which was his first playoff game ever, Right, sure,
first playoff game. So I understand my frustrations with you
as well. Now what am I going to see in
game two? And if I see a similar in game two,
then you got to say, now it's okay, excuse me
for one game to maybe be a bit overwhelmed your
first playoff game. It's happened in every sport. That doesn't
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mean you have to live there for seven games or
for four if you don't, if you get swept, or
for you winning in five or six games, you have
to stay there. I understand guys can get overwhelmed in
the game, get caught up in the man. This playoff
is a little different. Yeah it is. And the team
you're playing has a lot of rings on their finger
and understands a lot of playoff in postseason basketball, age
or not. Old man's strength works a lot of ways,
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and you saw it put it together at its finest
with those two guys on Golden State's team. So you're
a one hundred oll. If he plays like that, series
will be done. And if they shoot free throws and
shoot like that, it'll be they'll get swept. But the
other side of it is, I'm gonna cut him some slack.
We've seen him get better every year regular season. Now
he's got a chance to elevate, which we're always looking for.
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Who are you in the postseason? Who are you in
the postseason? He's got a chance to write that after
one game. Now, if we see this two or three
games in a row, then you know what the narrative
in the offseason is gonna be. Can't win with them
all regular season all the time. And I'm not sure
we're there yet, but that'll be a talk, right the chatter.
He's got to play well there. Listen, they're just too
(01:33:16):
good with their two front line guys, and Draymond's gonna
antagonize and do his thing and facilitate some stuff. Shane
Goon will take care of his business. It's the other
guys that need to elevate or Steph's not going three
bad games in a row. He's just not. Jimmy Butler's
too good a player to go with three games in
a row. We're looking there shaking our head like, ah, man,
(01:33:36):
this guy blows the question. Jalen Green's probably the biggest
lightning rod in the series. I know what I'm getting
from Steph Curry, don't you next time? I'm pretty good
idea what I'm getting from Butler, And quite frankly, in
this series, I think Shanguon's gonna get his Do you
know exactly what you're getting from Jalen Green yet? And
that answer is no, no, and now. And it's not
Udokah's fault. I mean, it's not Udokal's deal to figure
(01:33:58):
that out. He knows he's put him in position. It's
Jalen Green's. It's not a matter of letting it come
to you. You have to go snatch this one. You
just do certain things. Golf courses come to you. Let
this is a series. Now, now, you don't let this
come to you. You let it come to you, Blake, You'll
be down two zero. He has to go and snatch
it and prove that he is the next level star
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that we've not only been waiting on, but we've seen
during the regular season at plenty of times. But the
regular season's different than what you're seeing.
Speaker 6 (01:34:29):
Now thirteen and one when he scores thirty plus points.
So I think that's a pretty good case for how
important Jalen Green is to this offense. Ray biscuits, see
you guys right there, get you involved in the conversation. Also,
something that happened elsewhere that has us thinking back to
when times were bad around here. We'll discuss that here
on the Sewn Salisbury Show Sports Talk seven to ninety.
Speaker 2 (01:34:53):
And The Sewn Salisbury Show continues in on the Rockets
right now. Ray in memorial wants to weigh in. Good morning, Ray, Hey, Hey,
how's it going there?
Speaker 7 (01:35:04):
Hey, guy's going shine. It's been a while, man.
Speaker 2 (01:35:07):
Yeah, good to talk to you, buddy. How are you doing.
Speaker 7 (01:35:10):
Uh, it's been Everything's been great, man. I just want
to go ahead and chime in on the Rockets real quickly.
But uh, let's let's let's kind of I've been reading
articles and everything and and if you if you didn't know,
you would think golden. They was up three to zero
in the series. Let's pump the breaks here the Rockets
that they will rebound tomorrow night. I have no doubt
(01:35:31):
because uh as bad as they played Sunday night, they
had a chance and afford. They came back from twenty
three down really in less than a quarter, which is
phenomenon in itself, and got it down to three. So
let's let's pump the breaks there. They're talented enough. I'm
a dookah. He's he's a good coach. He's he's a
great coach. Actually, he'll have those guys ready to play
(01:35:54):
the bamb And they've shown that they can win games
in Golden State. So I don't I don't get the
whole I understand that they have like those they can
have the guys that they have light and stiff, and
those guys that are that are doing their thing and
they've then they're done that. But the Rockets, they the
first game, we're gonna just charge it up to during
the headlights, first playoff game. They'll rebound, they'll come back tomorrow.
(01:36:18):
Things will slow down for them, and I think a
man will come out tomorrow and have a good game
as well. But I'll hang up and listen. But I
fully spoke to see a different Rockets team tomorrow night.
But you guys have a good.
Speaker 2 (01:36:30):
Deal, hurt thanks. I would agree with that. I don't
think that they're gonna shoot like they did, and I
would think that, uh the Jyalen Green's gonna immerse himself
more into getting things done. I do I think they
go back and said, I think they go back one one.
I didn't think they'd sweep it, and I don't think
they're getting swept here. And I know that that mathematically
it says it's not a must win because they're not eliminated,
(01:36:52):
but it is a must win. It's as close to
a must win as you can get without being eliminated
from because of who you're playing, where you're going. But
I'm with Ray, I think that they're going to show
up and this will head back to Golden State one one,
which is tough enough anyway, but you'll take one, especially
against a team who's seen eight million of these playoff games.
Speaker 6 (01:37:10):
Well, it shouldn't surprise you anymore. I mean, I think
that's probably what you can take from Sunday Night is that, hey,
guess what that team can beat it.
Speaker 2 (01:37:18):
They did it three times this year.
Speaker 6 (01:37:19):
So I don't really know why you necessarily would just
go into that game thinking, oh, you know, they don't
have Clay anymore. They don't even have Kevin Durant any
of those other guys that beat us in the past.
Speaker 2 (01:37:30):
Plus those were those teams.
Speaker 6 (01:37:31):
I mean, with James Harden, we were a different team,
and none of those guys are still around. I think
the only guy that's still left over from any of
those teams is Jeff Green from coming back. But I
mean it is also where I guess it is kind
of a do you believe me now kind of scenario
that ema you dont can go to his team with
because it's a hey, this team is here, There're plenty
(01:37:52):
good enough to be able to beat you, and oh
guess what in Game one they did exactly that.
Speaker 2 (01:37:56):
Do you really think, though, deep down, that this team
took Golden State lightly? It looked like it early on
they did. Yes, I don't know how you could. I mean,
I mean, if you're a Udokie, you're probably If that's
the case, you're probably looking around your players, like who
told you that this was going to be easy? I mean,
just look at who you're dealing with. I mean, the
(01:38:16):
Jimmy Butler get by them was the get that a
lot of people turned away from, and they went and
got him, and look what it's done, but I can't
fathom and maybe it was, and you're right, maybe it
was the case. Early on you're like, oh man, we
got to wake up. But the simple fact that it's
Golden State and the guy named Steph Curry still there
(01:38:37):
gives you. That should give you enough to take notice.
Because the guy can take over games. They're going to
have to match that. And I don't even know if
it's intensity because they were they buckled down. Listen, this
ain't the Pistons Knicks. Like I said, you're not gonna
get many games that are in the nineties and eighties.
You're just not in these postseason You're just not. You
keep a team like them under one hundred we get
tell me it's about you've done your job on one
(01:38:59):
end and then to the glass. They just got knocked
out shots, couldn't make free throws and Steph Steph. Listen.
If you're fortunate to keep Steph under twenty points, well,
god blood, then you've had a phenomenal Just hope that
two other guys don't go crazy, right, but you keep
him around there, you'll win the series if he's in.
If he's doing that, he scores thirty one and you
shoot like you did, you're gonna lose series. So I'm
(01:39:21):
with Ray. I think that they're gonna get it done right.
I just can't fathom. I wouldn't think, especially for a
team that hasn't sniffed the playoffs in a minute, I
would think that you'd put respect on every single team
that rolls through. In particular team that's got a bunch
of jewelry, and they got Steph Curry. So if you
weren't awake, you are now well, you would hope.
Speaker 6 (01:39:39):
But I think that also what kind of led into
that fool's gold Shawn was the last time you played
them at their building and you handled them, And I
think that there were probably.
Speaker 2 (01:39:48):
A little bit of normal right, And it's not normal
to handle, but it's normally. I mean, I understand the
confidence level, But wouldn't you if you're a player, I
know what I'd think it'd be like if we go
in and we're playing in Minnesota and we play Chaka
and they're good and we beat them down or Green Bay, Right,
there wasn't one part of me that's got the second
time around we played him, Oh we kicked our ass.
(01:40:09):
The first time I've seen him on tape. It's different.
We just we're getting paid too. So you're having those games.
I can't. I mean to me, I would think you'd
be making a monster mistake if the message in the
locker room now, the message in the locker room should
be their golden state. But they did, we played better
than them this year and beat him in their building.
You want to feed off that, But the last thing
(01:40:31):
you want to do is say, yeah, that's who they are.
Because what you do when you kick their ass and
their building, what's to do? You awaken a team that's
you know, had to take care of their business down
to stretch to put themselves in position. Yeah, I would
think that you, if you didn't know, you learn a
valuable lesson about that. Once again, going back to the
old man's strength, that that guy who's thirty six, thirty
(01:40:52):
seven whatever he is now, Steph Curry, is pretty damn good.
That if you were asleep, I would say, suggests that
that coffee is like Cuban coffee and harsh and hit
you hard when you come out of the gate. What
tomorrow night and try to get this thing even. But
what you can't do, though, is allow that the fact
(01:41:13):
that you're down one game to force you into doing
stuff you're not normally. Now, step outside, you're going to
play better. But what happens is you start to feel
the stress. What happens, like you anything, grip the bat
a little harder. You're down one because you're thinking. They know,
they may say they don't pay attention to social media,
everybody in the building, in the country knows you go
down to a golden state in your own building that
the chances of you coming back with a chance to
(01:41:35):
win the series are not only greatly diminished, but slim
and damn near none.
Speaker 6 (01:41:39):
Oh I've suded. They go down to O two, they're
not coming back home. I mean, well, they'll come back home.
But then it's going to be maybe Doak and rafel
Stone at a podium talking about the season that was,
and you know, answering questions about where do you go
going forward to be able to make sure you move
even further the following season. So it's a huge one.
Tomorrow night must win in every sense of the word.
(01:42:02):
Biscuit wants the way in here. Biscuit, good morning.
Speaker 9 (01:42:05):
Hey, top of the morning to you, my brothers. And
then let me, let me, let me disagree with you,
slightly dead. I think you're reading the body language wrong.
I don't think they were overconfident.
Speaker 11 (01:42:17):
They were overwhelmed. Yeah, I mean, and it's not Sean.
Speaker 9 (01:42:21):
Go back and look where Steph current in the first
time the playoffs, and you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (01:42:27):
Yeah, and Biscuit, That's why I said it's okay to
be overwhelmed one game. It doesn't mean you've got to
be overwhelmed for seven of them. Sometimes getting overwhelmed, I'd
rather have them overwhelmed in game one, come back and say, Okay,
now I get this, then overwhelmed in game seven where
you get your ass kicked and now you are going home.
So Biscuit, I'm with you. I can't imagine. But it's
(01:42:48):
all I mean, being overconfident. But I understand what Dan's saying.
Body language sometimes underrated, sometimes overrated. But to me, if
you did and needed a wake up call, you got
it and you know who you're playing and you probably
need to recognize and need to recognize today, not wait
till tomorrow, and I think they will. But overwhelmed is
in your first playoff, I'll raise my hand. This could
(01:43:08):
It doesn't matter what level, whether it's in high school.
Think about the first I'll raise my hand. The very
first time I got a playoff game was like, uh,
I played at SC in front of one hundred thousand people,
and it's still different. It just is. And so you said, man,
Unfortunately in football you gotta wait for another week. In
one game may get you a limit. We don't get
seven game playoffs in football. You get one. You get
(01:43:29):
your ass kicked, and it's like, I gotta let that
fester the whole year. They at least give minimum of four,
maximum of seven chances to not be overwhelmed. So biscuit,
I'm with you. They looked overwhelmed at times, but that's okay.
It's Golden State. You just can't do it two and
three times in a row. Right.
Speaker 9 (01:43:45):
And here's the thing, though, Dan, you put out there
k cutting hanm and what he did, well, you know
what Kate is going is look up where the Knicks
are in defense, and then look up where Golden State
is in defense since they.
Speaker 11 (01:43:59):
Got Jimmy Bumper. So I don't see Jalen Green. If
you think Jalen Green.
Speaker 9 (01:44:04):
Most scored thirty points against this defense, onna go to State,
you are sadly mistaken. They got a good perimeter defense,
their weaknesses inside.
Speaker 11 (01:44:13):
They got to exploit the inside.
Speaker 9 (01:44:15):
Now, Jalen gotta play better and van Fleet, for the
love of Christ, you've got to hit some open jumpers.
Speaker 11 (01:44:21):
You you know what I mean, because this defense is tight, and.
Speaker 2 (01:44:24):
They're gonna give him open jumpers, Biscuit, They're gonna give
him open jumpers. They're gonna let him right there.
Speaker 11 (01:44:31):
Cuse Sean.
Speaker 9 (01:44:32):
They have no choice because they can't battle inside with
single so they gotta help and so somebody gonna be open.
Here's the thing, though, Shine, and I just want to
say this last thing, because you talked about the KD
thing yesterday.
Speaker 11 (01:44:43):
I just want to chime in on that.
Speaker 16 (01:44:45):
Man.
Speaker 9 (01:44:46):
I don't think KD will put them over the hunt
to win the championship. I think people are thinking six
years ago KD instead of the KD that you got. Now,
you know what I'm saying. And the problem for me,
this is another thing I will Sadie Dan. If you
watch k cutting him yesterday, they had Schroeder and the
other guys handling the ball, then they gave the ball
(01:45:07):
to k cutting him. You're asking Jalen to do with Luca.
That's what you're asking him to be. You asked, and
I don't know if he's quite there yet. You know
what I'm saying. You're asking him to beat the ball
himler and beat the score and facilitate.
Speaker 11 (01:45:20):
And come back. No, I don't know if he's there yet.
Speaker 9 (01:45:23):
He could get there, but he's not there yet.
Speaker 11 (01:45:26):
They just need to give it. Take the ball away
from Jaylor, let him come off the screens.
Speaker 9 (01:45:30):
If you want him to score more, that's what Steph
runs around off the ball. Then you take it to
him and now you can go to work. So I mean,
if that's what you know, you want Jalen to score more,
I just think Ja Bardi need to play more. A
couple of other guys need to play more export the inside.
Speaker 11 (01:45:49):
That's what golden status.
Speaker 2 (01:45:50):
We get is going to dominate. He will dominate this
series if you keep doing this. Shn Gounwell, there's no question,
great point biscuit and real quick Dan and I know
we will come back and continue to discuss. But is
that Van Vliet's gonna have every chance to knock down
shots to be as a hero in this game. He
is going to and with the Jalen Green situation one
(01:46:12):
thing through this championship run because Steph is such a
great shooter, and when Clay was there, the ball didn't listen.
CLAYI will get up fifteen shots before the balls bounce twice,
running people off screens, catch and shoot regularly, and you
know what Draymond's going to do. The most underrated part
of Golden State's championship runs was not the offensive side
(01:46:33):
of the ball. It's defense they do, and they will
contest and contend. Hell, if Jalen Green gets twenty two
or twenty four against this team, I consider that thirty
against some other teams. So but he is going to
have to assert himself and Van Vliet's gonna have to.
It's tough. And to answer Biscuits question about I don't
know if he's there yet. With Luca, I can tell
you no, he's not there yet, but there's an ability
(01:46:56):
for him to dominate a game or two and do
and eight for me means to assert yourself and put
yourself in position to give him the best chance. I
don't think I want to overload Jalen Green with eight
different roles, is my point. Sure, it's tough enough to
get off to run through and get Steph's brilliant at
it right, Ray, my guy Ray Ray Allen brilliant at
(01:47:20):
it still. I mean Klay Thompson was brilliant running people
and they're conditioning right, running them off and then still
having the energy to catch shoot and get lyft and
knockdown shots or take somebody off the dribble. But it
didn't happen. Doesn't happen. They don't let you can test
them because they're so quick off the screen and catching
shooting the balls up quick. And Jalen Green is going
to have to assert himself on the offensive end and
(01:47:41):
then still play defense. It's a challenge, man. This is
a challenge for a team that isn't a one, two
or three seed. It is a challenge. Meaning for the
Rockets on Golden State. This is a team that can
win the West and they've had to work their ass
off to get in this position and they're on the road.
(01:48:02):
They really are that good.
Speaker 6 (01:48:03):
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And we'll talk about it here Sean Salisbury Show.
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we call them do you call them folks? No?
Speaker 6 (01:49:47):
What I just it's the first time I've ever heard
of John Fogerty, you know, referred to as the folks.
Speaker 2 (01:49:55):
Yeah, before he actually took So if you were with
him and you guys like partying Johnny, Johnny, Johnny, Yeah,
John Folks doesn't sound like either. Fogerty's too too macho
with that voice that cut to be a Johnny. Probably
what do you think, TRIPLEI? Is he a Johnny a
(01:50:16):
john or you call are you the guy? Is he
the guy that he just call him by? He's like,
what's up Fogerty? You know, because you know I feel
like he's the guy in high school. Oh man, that's Fogerty. Yeah. Yeah,
Well he's a genius with the music. Musical genius, right,
he gets the last name. Yeah, but do his type
guys that they're getting stoned, or maybe they're having a
cold beer smoking a cigar, or guys in Vietnam and
(01:50:39):
in the you right, or maybe the wrestling guys. You'll
go on your show and call you out and say
you've been smoking. We you know who knows?
Speaker 7 (01:50:45):
Right?
Speaker 2 (01:50:46):
Do you think they've called him? Folks? Anybody? Folks, we
gotta hey, let's redo this cut.
Speaker 6 (01:50:53):
What do you think I think that probably he got
to if nothing else, John John just a hard core
just on just to right there, John, there's enough respect
on the C guy love CCR.
Speaker 2 (01:51:05):
Yeah both. I was gonna say us us and the dude.
I'm just making sure that we got Foges properly, properly introduced. Okay, folks,
I'm not a big nickname guy. Told I like to
say him on here on purpose. Well, I'm not a
big nickname guy. They've got to be organic and it's
it's got to be given to you. You don't claim it. Yeah, yeah,
(01:51:27):
you don't do that. Yeah, I don't think you called hey,
call me folks. No, I don't see him being that
guy either, do you? No be you know, you know
that back in the day when you saw him, Fogarty,
long hair, the mustache, you know, you know they kind
of all look the same. Yeah, well at average white guys.
They played rock and roll in the seventies. Really, could
you really tell the difference? Yeah, singing protest music? Exactly exactly.
(01:51:51):
It's the truth that may be with the Red White,
Blue Head Band, right, did a lid before they went
out of men? Yeah exactly. Yeah, you're laying out there
in the dirt when you're one of their Coachella fests.
We actually, no, those are fake kippies now, yeah at
good point, Yeah, good point by you. They're not like that.
We had it up in the Woodstock Yeah, Woodstock. Yeah,
(01:52:13):
not that where you this. I mean, you're stoned out
of your gorge just because you just are. You're stoned.
You're stoned out just off the feeling of folks being there, right, Yeah.
Speaker 6 (01:52:22):
We're sticking it to the man. Yeah, you're sitting there
listening to music. I don't think anyone Yeah, that's what
lay with your feet up. You're sticking it to the man. Yeah,
good cut. Though, you're right, little gump, little you think war?
Speaker 2 (01:52:34):
You think I mean like that? That's actually Vietnam, No
question about it, no question about it.
Speaker 6 (01:52:39):
Real quick here, you know in response to you, Biscuit,
you know about Jayalen Green, I'm not asking for him
to score thirty plus points a game like I understand
that's not who he is right now. But I need
more than oh of three from three yes, one or
two from the free throw line and seven points like that's.
Speaker 2 (01:52:55):
Fair or not.
Speaker 6 (01:52:55):
When you're picked where you are and you're expected to
be the cornerstone of a franch I can't have that
out of you.
Speaker 2 (01:53:01):
I think Biscuit agrees with you on the there's no
doubt he has got to step up and not be overwhelmed.
Step up, we overuse he got he gotta just he's
got to play like a veteran. He's been in the
playoffs more than one game. I think he agrees. I
just think and maybe in my understanding what Biscuit's saying,
it's just going to be hard with all that responsibility
(01:53:22):
heaped on him to expect him to pump in thirty
a night against that defensive team.
Speaker 6 (01:53:26):
How many times did we see this from the Astros
during their playoff runs of I'm not asking for a
guy to be on a heater, but I've got runners
on the corners right there, hey, or don you know
it'd be really cool right here, a three run homer
over the batter's eye. All right, hey, I got you,
and he did, yeah, jose al Tuve. However many times, hey,
you know, a rold As Chapman's on the mound, you know,
would be really cool. Here we got Springer on first.
(01:53:46):
If you put something in the outfield, he can probably score,
but still over the wall would be even better.
Speaker 2 (01:53:51):
I mean he did. And look what you've you named
three or four guys that pulled through. And it's going
to take that type of effort basketball wise, where it
may not be Green and I It may be Thompson,
it may not be shehn Gun getting twenty seven or
twenty eight. It may end up being Van Vliet knocking
down five threes that he had open looks. And they say, dude,
until you've prove you can knock him down in the
(01:54:13):
playoffs in this playoff series, and he's got a ring
so he understands the intensity of it. So, yeah, there
is no question Jalen Green has to be a impact
player in the series. Let's put I think that's the
easy way. An impact may mean twenty and ten, Tennessee,
it may impact may mean twenty nine and five. I
don't know. But he has to be impactful. And it
(01:54:34):
sure can't be missing open looks in this team not
knocking down free throws. They will destroy you. If you
don't shoot free throws, can't shoot little over fifty percent,
you have no shot. You just can't.
Speaker 6 (01:54:46):
You can do that against the team that you're gonna
beat by twenty that's not this series. No, it's definitely not.
Not against those guys. I mean, even if they are
a sholl of what they used to be, there's still
a team that believes they can win this time of
the year, and the burden of proof is on you
when it comes to that big Jay Dominic. See you
guys right there, We'll get you involved. And then also,
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That's exactly right.
Speaker 6 (01:56:08):
Yeah, you know this guy, this guy looks like a loser,
well at least some house broken me in.
Speaker 2 (01:56:13):
Yeah. And by the way, Eagles are epic. Oh they
are great. Yeah, I like him.
Speaker 6 (01:56:18):
That would be one thing you know how I've told
you before the one question, Hey, you only have one
question for uh for for Jeff Bridges would be do
you really hate the Eagles? I bet he'd probably be like, no, man.
Speaker 2 (01:56:28):
I don't bet. He seems like a guy go right
there and sit and enjoy a concert.
Speaker 12 (01:56:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:56:33):
Yeah, I love Jeff Bridges by the way, I've heard
he's a great guy, great actor. I don't know, I
don't know, I don't know what that's right. Oh yeah, no,
I just I just love his work. Oh yeah, I
think he's awful. Yeah, yeah, what's it the movie where
he was a bomb tech guy?
Speaker 7 (01:56:47):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (01:56:47):
But it was his dad, yeah, Lloyd Bridges. Yeah, and
the terrorist George.
Speaker 1 (01:56:54):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (01:56:55):
And I'm gonna tell you if you say it again,
if you haven't seen Hell or High Water a good one,
you are you don't. You don't appreciate good movies. The
cafe scene too, it's a freaking great Yes. You know
that that that woman is a real waitress at that place.
Speaker 7 (01:57:10):
Oh she is.
Speaker 2 (01:57:10):
Yeah. She had a good job of acting too hot
and got herself a tip too. And I don't mean
the good kin Yeah, exactly. What don't you want? T
Bone Steaks is what we serve. Great movie, it is,
oh man that that she is a classic? What'd she here?
Gonna get this?
Speaker 6 (01:57:25):
And like it basically t bone steaks medium rare. Actually
that want no question? Yeah, this is what you're ordering
it and I'll be right back with their iced tea.
Speaker 7 (01:57:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:57:35):
Yeah, great movie. But yeah, Bridges is a classic Taylor
Sheridan flick. Yeah, well what's he not involved in right now?
Speaker 6 (01:57:41):
I mean if it's a winner and it's a movie
like that, Like I remember hearing him talk about and
by the way, Big j Dominic, get you on second.
I remember him talking about Sacario this is the scariest
thing where he goes, dude, this this was the mild
version of what it really is like of talking with
these people. So there really is a James Bowling or
Josh Browling out there, like that guy showing up flip
(01:58:02):
flops and you just think, hey, who's this guy? Oh well,
when he puts on tactical gear, you're gonna find out who.
Speaker 2 (01:58:06):
He hold different ballgame. Yeah, yeah, I would imagine knowing
someone who works in those the the gangs and cartel situation,
who works around it regularly. Yeah, I think we'd be mortified.
At what we do know or what we don't know.
(01:58:27):
Let's put it that way.
Speaker 6 (01:58:28):
Ignorance is blissedness. Oh my goodness, that's that's the world. Yeah,
you think you know, but I don't think you really
want to know?
Speaker 16 (01:58:34):
Yeh?
Speaker 2 (01:58:35):
Do him wrong?
Speaker 6 (01:58:35):
And your head ends up on a on a on
a hood of a truck thing. You know, it's just
like kind of like why tempt fate? Like like why
why even mess with it?
Speaker 2 (01:58:42):
Yeah, it's it's it's crazy, but that uh yeah, Taylor
Sheridan's is he's on a gold.
Speaker 7 (01:58:47):
Run right now.
Speaker 2 (01:58:48):
He's on angible assets. Brother, Yes he is.
Speaker 6 (01:58:51):
He's he's feeling it right now. He's he's got the
shot drop and no doubt about it. Big Jay, good morning,
what's going on?
Speaker 11 (01:58:58):
Good morning?
Speaker 17 (01:58:59):
And I'm proclaiming this now, Big Lebowski Tuesday.
Speaker 2 (01:59:03):
I like it, greatest movie of all time?
Speaker 17 (01:59:05):
Hey Dan, do you ever think he found his credence
tapes and his business papers?
Speaker 7 (01:59:09):
I don't.
Speaker 2 (01:59:10):
Yeah, I don't think he did.
Speaker 6 (01:59:11):
I mean, you know, And then he had the separate
incident with the rug that the first one peed on
in the second one was stolen.
Speaker 17 (01:59:18):
Obvious, you're obviously you're not a golfer.
Speaker 2 (01:59:20):
That's correct. Great great movie for sure.
Speaker 17 (01:59:24):
Real quick, guys, my wife requested me to call and
get your opinion on something we're at. We're watching the
Astros game on Saturday night and Gavin Sheets rips a
double down the line for the Padres and he's got
all his baseball accessories on, and we get the baseball accessories.
But she goes, I want you to call your sports
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guys on Monday or Tuesday, and I want you to
ask him why he can't run with it. He got
to second base, but why can't you just finish out?
So I just love to hear you guys, for my
wife's sake, just talk about baseball, all accessories and all
that nonsense.
Speaker 2 (02:00:02):
I'll hang up and listen.
Speaker 11 (02:00:04):
Appreciate you guys.
Speaker 2 (02:00:06):
Sorry about all the Twitter comments, but we listen all
the time and we love it, and you never have
to apologize about that. I appreciate that. So that's the
big j Yeah, I love him.
Speaker 7 (02:00:17):
Man.
Speaker 2 (02:00:18):
Accessorise, well, you know, like a gal, they got to
have like fourteen pairs of brown shoes which are all
within like a quarter of an inch of each other,
and what they look like. But they got to have
fifteen pair of them, because this one's got a little
more heel. This one's a pump, this one's a sandal,
this one's you know, this one's a strappy. You know
all those things right right, but they get you know
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what I'm saying. It's same with baseball players. Now I'm
not big on all that gear. I am still bothered
when a guy can put a suit of armor on
and crowd the plate and if you hit him it
bounces off like it was like like it was not
like a you're at a shooting range, so of course
you're going to dive out over the plate when no
matter what I hit you with, Yeah, i'd have to
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head hunt. Well, then you go from the elbow. Then
you got a then you got a shin protector, and
then then you got you know, batting gloves, and you
got to take the batting gloves off and put the
running mid on the rest. So to answer the wife's question, well,
if it was an inside the park home run, he
would have had to deal with all of it. But
we accessorize. It's like, you know, when you're gonna go somewhere,
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you got the nice, nice shoes on, and then you're
gonna take them off because you're gonna walk around the boardwalk.
Gals sometimes will keep a pair of tennis shoes in
their per in their big handbag, or in the car
so they can change and walk in their son dress. Right,
you get where I'm going with this. That's baseball player.
Get the first. I gotta get to this thing. Get
the second. I gotta take five minutes to take off
the Bregman ankle thing up to the Bregman elbow pad,
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up to the maybe the ear fly, got to take
that off. And then two batting gloves come off. And
then I mean they're gonna put two on for running,
which used to guys. The guys never used to run.
They used to put batting gloves on to run. But
now they put a mid on one hand, take the
batting glove off the other, because that's a batting glove
as opposed to their running glove. Yes, and it's a
pain in the ask, But they only will keep those
on if its balls hit out of the ballpark or
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the ball is inside the park home run. Other than that,
somebody's coming out the base to get it. That's success arising.
And now you know why. Sometimes Dan, you may go
creat when they have forty seven pairs of earrings or
eight watches, and we all have ours too. I'm sure
they look at our quarks, but baseball players that's their
quirks of Yeah, it takes a minute to get all
that suit armor off, elbow guard.
Speaker 6 (02:02:32):
It gets ankle, I mean, trust me, if you fill
the ball off your ankle, you remember it the flap too.
Speaker 2 (02:02:37):
Yeah, so then you want to make sure that a
all right? Oh, I get them. Yeah, but when you
can wear all that up there, it's like how much
of the inside part of the plate though, I get.
Speaker 6 (02:02:46):
It's also too, I mean, are you that guy? Because
if you're just a guy and you got all that,
then you're a clown.
Speaker 2 (02:02:51):
Yeah, if you're big poppy, if your vigio, if your bonds, Yeah,
you're like and they start complaining, then you throw the
ball away and they hit it the other way for
a home run. Yeah, no doubt. In order to wear
the suit arm or, you've got to be crowned somebody
worthy of it. Is that what you're saying? You know,
sometimes you've got to remind people who you are. Yeah,
it's just different accessories to Big Jay's white big different
accessories for different people. Some don't help. Vlad Guerrero. Dad
(02:03:15):
never put batting gloves on. We know that Tucker until
he started wearing them, so very minimal, but he always
wore the ankle you know, the the ankle guard and
so balls filed off the top of your foot, of
your ankle. But it's just another way of they got
something for something for something. It's like they do in
the on deck circle from you know, from putting it
on to the pine tar to the the glue, whatever
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it is you're putting on there. Yeah, it's baseball players
accessorize as much as anybody.
Speaker 6 (02:03:43):
Moister Salute didn't wear batting gloves either, but I noticed
a lot of people didn't want to shake hands with them.
Speaker 2 (02:03:47):
Yeah, Urine'll do that to you. Yeah, that's that smell. Okay,
what would you wear the Big Jay and his wife?
Are you an accessory guy at the plate? A ankle guard? Probably?
Speaker 7 (02:04:00):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (02:04:01):
I too cumbersome for me. It's like a like a
flak jacket, you know. The I War once got hit
thought I thought Ron Rivera killed me on the field,
and I said I would if it hurts that bad
with one on. Yeah, Well why then I'm just taking
it off. I'll just deal with it, And that's an
honest guy. I thought I was dying at cal when
he hit me and I couldn't breath. I thought I'm
(02:04:22):
literally going to die on a Saturday afternoon at Strawberry Hill.
That's how I felt, and I still remind him this day.
I mean, he hit me so hard, I'm like, I can't,
I'm dying, and they had to come. He lost, you know,
knocked the breath aty, but you felt like you couldn't.
I thought I was dying on the field, and thank
good as I wasn't, but at least for me. But yeah,
I'm probably a double batting No, I am a double
(02:04:42):
batting glove and I don't wear any elbow and I
would have been a nonny or flap guy if they'd
allowed it to, I know, don't rub it type of guy. Yeah,
I just I'm just the less. The less was more
for me. And I didn't wear a lot of padding
in football either. You know, wristbands to keep sweat. I
didn't wear them for look, I wanted to keep sweat
(02:05:03):
off my palm, right. But other than that, I was
never a I don't like to feel cumbersome. Yet I
was always a sleeves guy. Like on practice during training
camp in the one hundred degree weather, I would always
wear long sleeves just to keep the Yeah, yeah, I
don't know why I did it. I enjoyed getting the sun,
but it was just to have it. And I wore
sleeves in seventy degree weather. Now sometimes it's so hot
(02:05:23):
you went sleeveless. But under my I didn't like the pad.
I don't like this, the stuff underneath the pads rubbing
against my skin. I had to have some kind of
shirt on there, right, Yeah, And I don't like jersey
catching on my arm. So long sleeves at least or
three quarter inch sleeves prevented the jersey from sticking to you,
of sliding because back then our jerseys were baggy. They
weren't skin tight on quarterbacks right like they are on
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everybody now. Well, the game travels, that's what we always
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Tuesdays nine o'clock. That means our good buddy, Chris Gordy
in Studio Gordy. It has the crusade of bobbleheads. Has
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that died down a little bit and getting a little
bit of citywide pub too.
Speaker 2 (02:07:23):
Writing about writing about Ron dot com picked it up.
Speaker 18 (02:07:26):
Yeah, it's uh, you know, look, it's as a collector
of bibbleheads myself, I am go to the game, get
one and leave. I'm not go buy them on the
secondary market and all this. But man, it's I was
surprised how many people have had this issue and run
into it and they're like, I've seen these people for years.
Speaker 2 (02:07:43):
They've been doing this crazy. Are you a bibblehead collector?
I mean, if if one's at bibblehead guy between you two.
Speaker 18 (02:07:51):
It's probably him. But the other thing is too is
not going to hurt somebody for a bottle. It's if
I get one, I'll take it add to the collection.
Speaker 2 (02:07:58):
Yeah, it's not that.
Speaker 6 (02:07:59):
It's not like you know, hey, I've got four tickets,
so give me four bobble heads. Like no, you give
me one of them, thankful for it, and I'll probably
keep it in the box.
Speaker 2 (02:08:07):
And there you go. What's your guys, Youtubo's most valuable
piece of memorabilia?
Speaker 7 (02:08:11):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (02:08:11):
Well, all three answer?
Speaker 3 (02:08:12):
Do you?
Speaker 2 (02:08:12):
I don't care if it's a bad Is there a
piece that maybe it's value to you or you would
think that it would get the most money if you sold,
which I'm not a big seller of them, But is
there something in there? Maybe it's personal reasons or that's
and then on the on the financial side of it,
what's the most valuable and what's the most valuable to
you and it then we'll get to talking with Cordy
front page of the Chronicle for the World Series win
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the second one, and I've been meaning to Hopefully after
his career is over, I'll get Ryan Presley to sign it.
You might have to wait longer that one.
Speaker 11 (02:08:43):
Or two.
Speaker 2 (02:08:44):
Yeah, I've got I was never speak like being in
sports for some of years.
Speaker 18 (02:08:48):
I was never one of those collector guys, like you're
not a big memori big and then somewhere in the
last year or two, I was like, you know what,
I need to start collecting, just not like seeking stuff out,
but because like years ago, somebody give me a baseball
autograph by mccolors, Karrey and all them, Well, I gonna
do with this. It's all held on to it now.
It's kind of you know, it's cool to have. It's
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from the seventeen season, so it was the year they
won the World Series, and it's got Springer, Korey and
all that. So that's probably one of the one of
the coolest. I've got an Earl Campbell oiler's autographed helmet.
Speaker 2 (02:09:17):
That's cool. I got a Joe Burrow National Championship autograph football,
so that's cool. But I want that one. But than that,
I mean, yeah, it's I don't know. I'm sure you
probably have more. So yeah, I've been you know what,
and I when I when you accumu it a lot
of times, it's just like you're at s. You know
what we all did at SC I was a freshman.
We'd go in because at the coliseum back in the day,
each guy had like a stall. It's like you know
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a show. You know the shower doors or the bathroom
doors in a high school, you know those ones. Some
of your bathroom doors may not have a bathroom door
at the high school. So you're sitting there in front
of everybody, but those doors were on each guy's individual
lockers in the in the home at the costume. And
so you did the numbers, and what you'd try to
do is after a game, especially like earlier this year,
(02:10:00):
you go down and see if Marcus's jersey was laying
on the ground before when he went to the show,
you know, before somebody come by and pick it up,
because you'd want to snap number thirty three because you
knew we were on the way to a Heisman trophy.
So that was that was that toty. You knew in
the midst of everything with him and that he this
gout could be absolutely still. Well, the opening game we
were playing Tennessee, my freshman well, I knew it from
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watching him practice and how John Robins he'd made him
a blocking back. Here's the guy who was scored five
touchdowns in the CIF championship and John Robinson is a
freshman sticks him to block for Charlie White. So he
learned tough, and Marcus was tough a one hundred year
old leather. But yeah, my freshman year, watching him practice,
I'm like, this is a different and men, I kne
him because we're both from San Diego, but I'm like,
this is a different cat, right, And then you watch
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him play and then the games. He was better even
in the games than he was at practice. Yet he
practiced his ass off, didn't take time. He wasn't one
of those guys that sits back because he was a star.
He wanted to and he towed it and runs sixty yards,
come back, towed it runs six yards. That that reputation.
You're about running backs at s he run and he's
getting their conditioning and every time they touch it that
that is a fact. Run at sixty yards. Don't drag
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him to the ground. You can jog back when you
get back to the huddle. John Robins put him right
back in huddle. It didn't matter who was it. The
choy put him right back in. And so, but that
was one Tony Gwynn autograph jersey because he's passed away,
and he gave my kids hitting lessons and the friendship
with him was mattered to me.
Speaker 18 (02:11:20):
You know that that his and and even though his
voice didn't match how he looked at all at all,
he's supposed to sound like deep throat exactly.
Speaker 2 (02:11:30):
And such a phenomenal human being. I was hosting a
get Up real Quick, you know when get up? When
Roy Firestone did it, then Gary Miller, and so I
got to host it for ten days and gwyn was
a guest. And I don't know if I've ever shared
this with you guys or on this store, but I'm
hosting it. Maybe I did. And Tony comes on and
I said, well, what is something you won't do to
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disrupt you he's in the prime of Raken, right. He said,
I don't play myself in a video game, and I thought,
that's it. I said, why he goes because the timing.
Now think about how psycho this dude is. The timing
of the ball coming in and the spin of the
just even on the video game, because they're so real
and now they're even more than that he was doing. Right,
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He wouldn't play himself because he didn't want it to
disrupt this time. And I'm thinking, you are in that
job in a good way, right, And then I said,
with Tony one year, he's he's coaching at San Diego
State and he's a head baseball coach. I said, my kids,
what can I pay to have teach my kids? And
they're both left handed hitters and he's and they throw right,
he goes, bring them down. We'll have him breaking before long.
And so, and he wouldn't take he wouldn't take any
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money and that, but that's who he was. So that's
a valuable one to me, the Maguire bat, because I'm
an sc guy. You know, you get them and I
don't know, like like I mentioned the Willie Mace with
the valuable one and I know a lot of people
had Pete Rose baseballs, but just the fact that he's
no longer here and what it meant. But I would
probably say, and there are some cool jerseys of teammates
like I got, or guys who played against Marino or
Warren and I got some good jerseys, but those are
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for my kids. But for me, the friendships that Gwinn
along with the autograph of the guy and how cool
they were, So probably Gwynn, because I don't know if
I mean, we've seen a lot of great hitters, and
I wasn't around for Ted Walliams, but there's nobody who
put the battle the ball better than him and who
didn't have to talk about it. He just did it.
And a phenomenal human being. So when that matches, when
they both match, it kind of makes you feel like
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you know that that's a different human being. Special. So
your house is on fire, you got two minutes to
get out. What are you grabbing? Are we talking about
memory or any whatever? Probably yeah, the stuff you'd keeping
us safe or something, right, But as far as stuff
that's I want to say a little bit frivolous. Aside,
I'm drabbing my dogs. The rest of it. But frivolous
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would probably you know, maybe uh, you know, like those
stamps or that my dad collected, or something that was
or something you wrote in a bible, you know, something
that means something to you have stored away that you've
been taking notes in it forever, something like that. But stuff,
it would if I was grabbing stuff, it would probably
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end up being, you know, helmets of the teams I
played for or something like that, just to preserve that
all the Salisbury jerseys. Yeah yeah, they'll make these. Yeah yeah,
and it's not because they're sold out. Gordy, that's it.
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Speaker 6 (02:15:35):
This is the Sean Salisbury Show, get back at it.
And I've said, you know, Gordy, the time is now,
don't wait, get it done. If you're Dana Brown and
Houston Astros, lock him up, lock him up now, do
it now. Yeah, I don't know if they're you know,
there's some guys. They're very selective.
Speaker 18 (02:15:57):
Put it this way, and how they decide on who
gets what account or gets gets what extension and that.
Speaker 2 (02:16:02):
Sort of thing.
Speaker 18 (02:16:04):
You know, the Christian Javier they got ahead of and
then you can't do anything about the injury. But Christian
Hvier was awesome before he got he got his big extensions.
Speaker 2 (02:16:11):
So I'm with you.
Speaker 18 (02:16:13):
I mean, the longer the longer this year goes on,
the more evident it will be. Hunter Brown is the ace.
I mean he just is. And no offense to Fromber,
but the riding's on the wall. We all know Fromber
is gonna walk out that door. At the end of
the year. Everyone's gonna make a bundle of money. Everybody's
gonna slide up a spot. And Hunter Brown is the
ace in the face of this staff.
Speaker 2 (02:16:30):
And Gordion I'm not so sure to mean in I'm
not so sure that even if Fromber was here if
they found a way to pay him. I'm still not
so sure that Hunter Brown's not yet. First starter next
year is her Brown? If Frombery State?
Speaker 7 (02:16:42):
Right?
Speaker 2 (02:16:42):
I mean, I just think that's that's the reality.
Speaker 18 (02:16:44):
So yeah, I look, man, everything I've heard around him,
he's just he's he's developed in front of our eyes.
You know, even talking to guys in the clubhouse. He's
more of a locker room leader kind of guy. I mean,
everything you want from Hunter Brown he has done. And
then something last night against a really good Blue Jays lineup,
just dominant, just completely shutting him down. And you know,
(02:17:07):
luckily the offense woke up because Gossman has been good. Man,
he's having a resurgent year with Toronto, and through those
first ones, damn good, he was great. And then right
there in the fifth they got something going and able
to tee off on him and it was enough. And
you know that you almost needed that. I mean, coming
out of the weekend of you almost swept the Padres,
did you take you out of three this teetering below
(02:17:29):
five hundred thing like you got you gotta start putting
you foot down, saying we are one of the best
teams in the AL West, let's go, let's start proving ourselves.
Speaker 2 (02:17:36):
So when one of these next two, Hey, Gordy, think
about the conversation we were having at this very time
last year the Quantum Leafs had Hunter Brown got skipped
over for a start, and with yeah, we had him.
The conversations we said earlier was pegged for dude, he's
a start away from urin eight and down his leg
and being in the minor leagues, and here he is now.
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Scott Boris is his agent. You got control and the
only reason they're not so urgent to get it done
is because they don't have to because he's under control.
But you want to make the guy happy and you
want to do it. The question is, and Dan brought
it up with these quantum leaps he's made, and we
all three think he's guaranteed ace and one of the
best we got. And it's a cy young guy every
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year going forward. I love his mental toughness. To my
point is to overcome what he went overcame last last
year at the beginning to be in this position now.
But with that is twenty five million. Enough would if
you're Scott Morris and they coming you say six years
for a buck fifty. Are you doing it?
Speaker 18 (02:18:35):
That's that's a tough one. I mean they would have
to they'd have to talk about this thing. And on
top of it, you know, if you're the Astros, maybe
party in the back of your mind is saying, small
sample size, let's see a little bit more after.
Speaker 2 (02:18:47):
Just being a year since he's been that dominant, right,
I just looked it up. It was April eleventh last year,
so this is just over a year ago.
Speaker 18 (02:18:55):
Was that awful game in Kansas City where you couldn't
get out of the first inn and give up nine
earned runs and eleven hits. I mean, it was the
worst thing ever. His era was up to sixteen forty
three after that game.
Speaker 2 (02:19:07):
And the conversation we had with I don't know if
it was on a weekend game or what, but the
conversation we had the next show was he can't count
on him. Yeah, and look now we're talking about his
twenty five MILLIONI year enough with Scott Boris as his agent,
knowing he's your bell cow.
Speaker 18 (02:19:24):
And a few outings after that was that game up
in Detroit where they moved him to the bullpen, and
I don't know what it was, he came out.
Speaker 2 (02:19:31):
Of the pen was like three innings a long relief,
five five, that's right.
Speaker 18 (02:19:35):
And he came out of the pen and it was
you know, he's a he's a Michigan guy, and maybe
it was just being back home in front of family
and friends. He just came out with that bulldog mentality
and attack as was lost that game, but he kept
it at you know, five innings, one run he gave up,
and that almost was like the reset button. It refocused him.
I know, you know he had those conversations with Alex
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Bregman and all that, but he got himself right. And
ever since that moment, this guy's been one of the
best pitchers in the American League. You go look at
the number since that date. I mean, it's been outstanding.
So yeah, I can't say enough about him. I'm with you.
If you can get the deal done, now, go ahead
and do it. But I think both sides maybe you're
stopping to look at it and going why rush this, Well,
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let's let's wait this, weight this thing out.
Speaker 2 (02:20:19):
If your boris your down started to look at this saying, hmm,
my guy's pretty good. You may not have enough to
get me an extension or the way you want to
do it right, and if you're the Asters, you're right saying, well,
just let me get to talk to me when the
season's over, because if he does again what he did
last and we continue to see that ascent, you might
twenty five. If you could get in at twenty five,
you by do it yourself a bargain basement considering the
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landscape we're in in pro baseball.
Speaker 18 (02:20:43):
Because if you're Dana Brown, you look at you go,
we're gonna get Hovey or back at some point, We're
gonna get mccaullor or you know, McCullers will be back
here soon, hopefully at some point lais Garcia.
Speaker 2 (02:20:53):
Maybe not this year, back next year. You know, we've
got Spencer Urraghetty locked up along.
Speaker 18 (02:20:57):
I mean, like you start to look at it and go, look,
it was sucked to lose him, but maybe you have
a little bit of leverage to say, we're not so
dire that we've got to, you know, crawl over coals
and give you whatever you want.
Speaker 2 (02:21:09):
Scott bor it so we'll see.
Speaker 6 (02:21:12):
I mean, you know a guy that's you know, put
together the season he has to this point, and it's
got the stuff that he has and seemingly has unlocked something.
I don't think he trifled with that too much, so
hopefully they have to hope that that's the case with
let me ask you both a question. I asked Steve
Sparks and it's it's it's gonna be time here in
the next month to ask Steve and maybe Dana Brown.
Speaker 2 (02:21:31):
I ask him both. Every year, I'll ask you to
this for the askers to get where they want to go,
give me one player that has to have either a
cy young MVP type year the rest of the year. Yeah,
that's the end. Is that a no brainer?
Speaker 18 (02:21:47):
It's an absolute because that's what's been this team's biggest
problem and ain't been pitching. It's been the offense. The
Knights where they score zero runs, one run, two runs,
they lose. The offense has to show up and all
the hype and excitement. A couple of years ago, Jordan
Alvarez was the most feared hitter in baseball and then
you know a moment on Saturday where he comes up
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with the bases loaded with one out and everybody on
social media's like, oh my god. And this has happened
so many times in the last you know, this season
and back endo last season and he gets the sack
fly and it's fine, but like.
Speaker 2 (02:22:25):
You know, grand slam fist in the air, like let's go.
Speaker 18 (02:22:29):
So that's the guy we're looking for. And again not
saying he's bad, but just he was, he was on
pace to being. He was Mike Trout Shoheo Tani, most
feared hitter in baseball territory.
Speaker 2 (02:22:41):
And now he's he's pretty good. He's pretty good.
Speaker 18 (02:22:45):
But it's not that like, oh my god, like the
Barry Bonds, like we're gonna walk this guy, and they
did it. Was it last night last night, And and
Gossman's numbers against him historically have been great, but that
was kind of the first time we've seen that recently.
Everybody else has not not been afraid to pitch to him,
and I just want I want him to punish teams
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more to send that message in And of course the
stats will all rack up and he'll be an MVP.
Speaker 2 (02:23:11):
Because he'll build it in bunches, right and his his
his his, uh.
Speaker 7 (02:23:16):
Right.
Speaker 2 (02:23:16):
Now, we're not worried about him hitting singles. You're worried
about him crushing games where he hits nine home runs
in the month right, that's.
Speaker 19 (02:23:22):
What we're talking right the season, right, he should have
seven or eight right now, that's that should be the
your we're living where the Tatistas and and those again,
the Schwarbers are living where you're always when we talk
about oh, you're going to finish in the top three
and home runs, that's him.
Speaker 2 (02:23:35):
Plus he's hell, he can hit three hundred two because
the guy's a great hitter. He I don't know where
we're at now if he's thinking about the power ball.
So he's you know what I'm saying, and it gets
I mean, he's no different than aybody else. You're gonna
grind a little bit when he does break out. It's
going to be an ugly scene for whoever. It's going
to be a blood bath for the pitcher when it
comes to baseball. TI eleve a month this year where
he will absolutely or he'll be the player of the month.
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There's no question about it. I mean two, you need him,
Christian Walker. Scene deal there, all right, Gordy, let's switch it.
Let's steal you for a few more minutes. Is the rockets?
We know you and I talked about it yesterday. You
can't have what they had offensively in game one and
at the free throw line right more incumbent upon you know,
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Van Vliet's gonna get looks because of what happened, or
that Jalen Green's got to dominate the game. What haster
Reards had more in this game open looks for Van
Vleet because he will get them, or creation by Jalen
Green because I think Shan Guon's going to get his too.
Which one, if you have to choose, which one's got
to come to fruition so you don't go back down
to Well.
Speaker 18 (02:24:37):
I've been over at the practice facility a handful of
times in the last week, and I'm not gonna be
over there today, but I would expect, like if I
was Emaide, what I would do. First thing, everybody shooting threes.
Just I mean, I want you shooting jacking him up, Yeah,
I want you shoot a hundred. You shoot a hundred,
you should, I mean, just keep because they that's that's
the thing is the other night it and and yes
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it was exacerbated on Fred, but I mean, everybody, if
they're leaving you open, if they're double team in Shangoon
or they're whatever, and you're getting left your guy's leaving
you and you're wide open.
Speaker 2 (02:25:08):
You've got to knock that down.
Speaker 7 (02:25:09):
You just do.
Speaker 18 (02:25:10):
I mean, uncontested three has gotta be hit in a
series like this with this team. When Steph can make it,
uh jumping up sideways from half court with one arm
in the air and it goes in switch like that,
he's gonna have the miracle shots. I need you to
just hit the wide open one.
Speaker 2 (02:25:24):
Yeah, without being contested shots. You know it's crazy too.
A guy like Steph will have like twelve and you
know he'll hit twelve and you say how many points
he got, and then for about a four minute stint,
he'll go bingo, bango bongo, knock down three and so
he's got twenty seven and he said, where did that
come from? Will you talk about Jordan? Steph will bury
him and munches and he will hit the shot where
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you say, there's no way he made that shot. We're
all as you're asking Gordias. When you've got a knockdown
and they they've doubled in the post and you can
just kick it back out.
Speaker 7 (02:25:52):
You have to.
Speaker 2 (02:25:52):
You have to bury that shot. And they're fortunate they
don't play in the big arenas like College does to
the plot of four. You get the same arena with
the same bat, you've got to knock the shot.
Speaker 18 (02:26:00):
I was standing court side the other night the action
the championship game and watching guys sho my depth perception
would be so awful.
Speaker 2 (02:26:08):
It is awful. And San Antonio is we all three
were there at different night. Is the distance between the
backboard and as you the first row and then gets
back to the back part of it there, it's like,
how do you judge that from long range?
Speaker 12 (02:26:25):
And then the.
Speaker 2 (02:26:27):
It just goes on forever. Highly underrated and the NBA
guys don't have to deal with that. They get the
arenas that they get a good backdrop and stuff, but
it's just you can't go down to oh and it's
got to be done the right way.
Speaker 18 (02:26:38):
Well, you encouraged everybody yesterday evened up their series. So
the two games yesterday or the series are one one.
Speaker 2 (02:26:44):
That's exactly right after being dominated in the in the
first the Knicks got beat last night, right that the
Knicks got beat, the Pistons won and Nuggets then the
Nuggets took care I mean the Nuggets got beat by
the Clippers, which the Clippers clippered right. The question is
can they sustain this throughout? And I'm gonna go Nuggets
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in the series. But a lot of ugly first round,
first round first games, as far as you know, fifty
one point difference, the best team's gonna win in a
seven game series, especially in round one for sure.
Speaker 6 (02:27:17):
Gordy joins us every week courtesy of Carbock. We're in
prime Crawford box season, aren't we we are?
Speaker 18 (02:27:22):
And of course while you're at a dyke in park
you can get your hands on Crawford bok. They're all
over the concourse. You know them, you love them. When
you see the tequila sunrise stripes. You get them to
the big can you get them in the draft in
the glasses that you get to take home.
Speaker 2 (02:27:36):
But quick note on Carbock.
Speaker 18 (02:27:38):
This Friday, they are teaming up with the Asters for
an official watch party in the car Bock Beer Garden
this Friday, six forty first pitch against the Royals, and
here's what they got lined up. Five dollars Crawford back,
five dollars Crawford Pale ales. Remember the special edition ones.
They're gonna have Orbit, They're gonna have the shooting Stars.
They're gonna have the championship trophies on display ASDROS vendors giveaways,
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all the game day energy without the stadium lines. It's
gonna be a lot of fun. I'll be out there
doing our pregame show. So come on out to the
car Buck this Friday. I'll be out there starting a
five thirty again, six forty first pitch. Gonna be a
lot of fun. Bring the family, and what's root on
the astro is gonna win up at Kansas City.
Speaker 6 (02:28:14):
There you go go, Strows, go Rockets. Thanks Gordy. I
appreciate it as always, you're the man, all right, coming up? Well,
you used to have this problem in this town. Now
you don't, but somebody else has to deal with it.
We'll talk about it here Sean Salisbury Show. The Sewn
Salisbury Show continued, Well, he decided to have a full
(02:28:35):
on press conference yesterday because there's season's over, so you
know you do the end of year. Hey, you know
the season all of that, the old exit interviews and
the exit press conference. Yeah yeah, so you get that.
Well yesterday, of course, when you don't open it up
to everyone, his opportunity to be asked by some who
maybe didn't get a chance on the record to ask
about the trade. And when you hear somebody say something
(02:28:59):
like this, let's just say, if you're a fan of
a certain team, it doesn't inspire much confidence.
Speaker 20 (02:29:04):
Didn't know that Luca was important to the to the
fan base. I didn't quite know it to what level.
But really the way we looked at it is, you know,
if you're putting on the if you're putting a team
on the floor, that's Kyrie, Clay, PJ, Anthony Davis, and Lively.
We filled that's a championship caliber team and we would
have been winning at a high level and that would
(02:29:26):
acquieted some of the outrage. And so unfortunately we weren't able.
Speaker 7 (02:29:29):
To do that.
Speaker 20 (02:29:30):
So it just continued to, you.
Speaker 2 (02:29:32):
Know, go on and on, well what part of your
history aside from the fact that he's hurt all the time,
and you know he's a great player in Anthony Davis,
didn't you when he said, well, if we'd had well,
the bottom line is you can count on thirty games
a year. You're not having him, So you go right
in and I understand fat Luca, but Fat Lucas still
averaged thirty plus a game okay, still a generation, no
(02:29:52):
question about it. And it's still in his mid twenties, okay,
with plenty of game left. The thing that blows my
mind is, listen, I didn't know. I don't know enough
about the GM other than what we hear. You know,
he doesn't come as a guy that like worked his
way through and then all of a sudden like, oh man,
he's prime for it. I didn't when he got the gig.
I didn't know enough about his background, did you, Dan,
I'll be honest, I didn't know a lot about him.
(02:30:13):
But right you understand you want to know, have some
feel if you honestly have to be told. And I
don't subscribe to trying to get anybody, you know, cancel
somebody's job and get him fired.
Speaker 7 (02:30:28):
I don't.
Speaker 2 (02:30:29):
I'm always a glass half. Okay, let's is this who
this person is? Or let's see and then there comes
a point in time of is just listen, man, we
can't win with you, or we got it. It's time
to move on. I get it. And especially in that
profession in pro sports, if you haven't been fired, you will,
and if you're a coach or a general manager, you
learn from those and it's going to happen to every
one of them. Right for the most part, Listen, if
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you don't know that your best generational talent, your best player,
how the fan base feels about your then you are
so disengaged from reality that you can't run a basketball team.
You have to get rid of him. You're fired. You're done.
The fact that right when he said that you probably
is the owner. The second that he walks out of
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that meeting, you call him into your office and say,
this is exactly why we have to move on you.
You basically fired yourself. Because if he doesn't have a
feel about the best player, one of the ten best
players in the league, one of the if not as
good a scorer as there is in all of basketball
on a regular basis, fat, skinny, or anywhere in between,
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and you had him in your under your umbrella, in
your in your house. If you don't know how good
he is, how in the world can you tell me
how good the other eleven are?
Speaker 6 (02:31:46):
See, it's not and it's not even that he's evaluation
favor it's he's a fan favorite because he's a hell
of a player.
Speaker 2 (02:31:51):
Right, How can you not see that? Listen, regardless of
the fans may hate him, but on game day, the guy,
the guy knows how to get us what we need
to me. The second he says that he that, he
tells you the guy is so removed from reality on
understanding basketball talent and knowing and recognizing what's going on
in the room, he can't be your general manager. And
(02:32:14):
I don't like to say that about I want to
give guys every chance to make their money and and
and prove themselves. You prove that you cannot do this
job at least now in Dallas, you got to You
just can't that that'd be Can you imagine, okay, give
me another one. Can you imagine? Okay, it's shake gilges
Alexander the equivalent to Luca in his spot. Sure, yeah, okay,
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let's just use that as an example. Great team, gonna
be a heart out Oklahoma City. Can you imagine the
GM saying we traded him for Joe l embiid similar
right for the I've talked about Anthony Davis. I'm talking
about both hurt, yeah, both and guy, you get what
(02:32:55):
I'm saying. And then for you to say, well, I
thought we won the trade. I'm only going to get
the guy the year, But I didn't realize that our
fans loved shake Gilgess Alexander immediately. Hence why they're winning
to you wouldn't have to because he'd never say that
if you don't know who your star is, you don't
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know who the sixth man is. He can't be the
general manager of Dallas Mavericks. You just can't. They can't.
He can't overcome that, at least in Dallas. Well, it's
it's not only that.
Speaker 6 (02:33:24):
And the reason why I brought it up of like
feeling it here is because this reminds me of when
the Texans were doing all their stuff of simping for
Jack easter b and you know, continuing to pine for
Bill O'Brien, like just sanction over common sense, and that's
just it, like where it's like, you know, you can say, oh, hey,
well the fans don't know. The fans don't know. Well,
the fans are obviously the ones that keep this thing going.
So if you're going to alienate them as much as
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you're doing it right now and then raise season ticket
prices and then just try to say a blanket, but
we're going to be really competitive next year based off
what because.
Speaker 2 (02:33:55):
What you just proved to me right here just tells
me I don't trust you, dude. Okay, all of a sudden,
the Houston Draft in twenty fifth and and Jackson Dart
fell and you draft him in the first round and
you say, well, this is perfect, and you trade c J.
Stroud during the draft and then they come to you
and you say and and and Cassaro says, I didn't
realize was the crowd. Yeah, you know, we figured if
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you could just add Jackson Dart to this, we we
got this guy and this guy and we're pretty good.
That's what this is the equivalent to.
Speaker 6 (02:34:25):
It's just it's focusing on the wrong things and it's
not having a you know what it tells me. We
talk about players being overwhelmed. That's a GM no offense.
And I don't know anything about him, his past or
any of it. I can just tell you this, and
maybe he'll rejuvenate himself for another gig and be better
next time. We all need another shot. I can tell
you this that those are those are head shaking to
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the point. He is overwhelmed. The job got too big
for him at the wrong time. And that's just as
obvious as it gets he.
Speaker 2 (02:34:55):
Whatever due diligence or study or whatever it is, and
then not understanding the room. Come on, man, Yeah, it's
he made that bed. Now he's got to sleep in it.
It's on him.
Speaker 6 (02:35:07):
Yeah, I mean, and that was in every sense an
interrogation yesterday. It was a bad look for Nico Harrison.
But you know what that's for them to deal with,
and been a bad week or two.
Speaker 2 (02:35:16):
For anybody with the name Nico. Yeah, think about that. Yeah,
when I say two weeks the trade happened longer than
two weeks ago. But with that and Nico at U
C L A L Lead at Tennessee, they they both
thought they were making the right move, and neither one
of them did. Yeah, you got Nico Collins over there.
It's in our.
Speaker 6 (02:35:36):
Jazzy Yeah, protect me, make sure I'm all good. All right,
Tony and Angleton See you're right there. We're working before
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We want to wait.
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Sean Salisbury continues on seven ninety second. But Tony and Engleton,
Good morning, Tony, what's going on? Good morning guys. I
hope you're had a great Easter weekend.
Speaker 7 (02:37:02):
Uh.
Speaker 16 (02:37:03):
We were talking about Hunter Brown earlier. I think he's
the ACE right now, he's the ACE. I trust him
when he goes out, I feel like he's gonna give us.
He's gonna give us six or seven every single time.
He's had some rough outings, but but for the most part,
he's gotten through that. You know, where he struggles early,
he he gets through problems and he and he's and
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he straightens out. I think fromber if it depends on
where we're at, if if if we're if we're in it,
they're gonna keep him, just like they did Bregmant. But
if we're if we're not quite there, I think the
Astros may trade from break the deadline to to stock
up on some more or some more talent late.
Speaker 2 (02:37:43):
And I know that sounds crazy, but.
Speaker 16 (02:37:46):
You gotta do what you gotta do to stay to
stay competitive. Let's see what else we got going on. Oh,
the rockets, the rockets, you know, listen, they decided to
roll with this roster, didn't make any big deals. I
thought that was excellent. See what we can do with
what we have right now. I'm really looking forward. I mean,
I want to see how far they can go in
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this postseason, but I'm really looking forward to the future
for that ball club. That's about all I got. Guys,
all have a great day.
Speaker 6 (02:38:13):
I appreciate it, Tony. I mean, look, I've been on
the record already, Sean. Even if you are in playoff contention,
you get approached with a hell of a package for
from er Valdez, I'm fine with it.
Speaker 2 (02:38:23):
Yeah, you're not giving him away. If you're in the
if you're in the hunt and you know you think
you can not only win the division, but get into
the playoffs and roll through it and have a chance
to go, he will be here. But I'm with you, Dan,
regardless of the situation, I'm answering the phone. I am
answering the phone because if he pitches great, you're not
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gonna You're not gonna pay him. If he pitches average,
he's still going to be in high demand because he's
a left hand. He's premium and people seeing Saucie last year,
that's exactly right. And he's really good. And if he's
average and you're winning, you're gonna expect that he's gonna
pull out of it. If he's average and you're getting
your ass handed to you, you'll still get assets for him.
(02:39:07):
Maybe not the same as if he was a cy
young candid, because everybody knows people try to lowball you.
Then say, well, I'm gonna, you know, try to win
this trade. If you're going to trade him at the deadline.
But when you get premium left handers, there's there's a
there's gonna be a market for him no matter what.
We've seen enough and he is an innings gobbler, he
eats him up for the most part. Yeah, they will,
they'll be. You can ask for quite a bit if
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you're going to move him, if this team is in
first place or right around there, I think it would
take a you're not giving him away, It would have
to be a really good offer because you still think
this team's always been built for thinking they can win,
and their trades have not been to clear house out
the last seven eight nine years. It's been to give
me somebody who gets us over the top, like they thought.
Kulkuocha and he pitched fantastic here, but it was a
(02:39:51):
rental and you didn't pay him and he moved on,
So that they will risk losing Fromber for no assets
if they think that they're in contention when you and
I that's been the history for that.
Speaker 6 (02:40:03):
And it's also too I mean, as we talked about earlier,
you get Lance mcculler's junior back, if he's back to
what he had been Christian Javier, I mean, where you've
got options at that point where you can stomach it.
Speaker 2 (02:40:13):
Yes, it gives you a little leeway to move and
gives you some breathing room on that. Yeah, it's going
to be interesting to see how they do, and we're
they're positioned at that time, and then kind of getting
a gauge from them of what they think it's going
to cost to get in the free agent Well, once
free agency kicks in, I'm not sure they'll be able
to keep up or want to keep up with the
(02:40:34):
money that Fromer is going to command, especially if he
pitches like a number one.
Speaker 6 (02:40:37):
The rest of the somebody's gonna throw a bag at it,
and you're just not going to be that team. So,
I mean, if it's not going to be something that
you're concerning yourself, with going forward. Why do you necessarily
need to worry about it right now? Is kind of
the way I look at it. So we'll see how
that all plays out. You know, the seeing in this
business real quick, you're sean before we close up shop here,
keep paying this t's off right now, that's it. Okay,
(02:40:58):
if you don't know, don't go business. Did you know
that the inside the NBA guys found that out last.
Speaker 2 (02:41:03):
Night about there where they're going for their contract.
Speaker 6 (02:41:07):
Or so now I know they were talking about Shaq,
Charles and Kenney were talking about Billy ray Bates.
Speaker 2 (02:41:13):
Okay, oh there there you go, because they had to
find out another way about the they played.
Speaker 6 (02:41:19):
They played the game or alive, like right there, live
on air, and I believe it was Shack that definitively
said I know that he is dead. Well then later
on kind of like we were talking about last Weekly
Courso remember how during the middle of a game, he
had to come in and apologize. Well, Ernie Johnson had
to jump back on and say, no, he's very much alive.
We apologize for the insensitive comment everything else.
Speaker 2 (02:41:41):
So, yeah, that's a live game. It can get you
in trouble that that's why you always got to preface
it with I'm not sure I thought he was, but
he may be. Then then you say, okay, because if
you're not sure, just admit it. But will you guarantee it? Yeah,
but it's the TNT Show. They pretty much can mean
we'll take the part, and I don't think they meant
(02:42:02):
it harsh.
Speaker 6 (02:42:03):
No, you know there's a straight man, of course, you know,
of course, you know he jumps back the pro of pros,
no doubt about it that he is, and even an
even better guy.
Speaker 2 (02:42:11):
A lot of fun today, man, that's stuff.
Speaker 6 (02:42:14):
Absolutely absolutely gonna be back in the saddle for sean
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